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I think this goes for both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 07:21 AM
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It’s theatrical but sure, just like there are other ways girls serve guys
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:03 AM
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Life is more nuanced than that. We don’t have to be 100% autistically truth obsessed all the time, we even shouldn’t. I’m talking about a hypothetical where there are no hats, no time for a new haircut, no scissors and literally no other choice, the cut is set and it’s about your harmless reassurance or unnecessary addition of stress
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:57 AM
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It’s doesn’t though. Your friend could ask you if his new haircut is fine, when it’s not really but it’s a few hours before some gathering so to not stress him you say it looks fine. Sad in what way? It makes me feel good regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:21 PM
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I was referring to the jar thing. I never gotten nothing back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:24 PM
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Maybe? Don’t think I’ve been in that particular situation before. But again you’re getting stuck on my one example and ignoring the larger point. Regardless it’s a dead end. I’d do these things even if there were zero equivalent things girls did because it feels good doing them. That example I gave is somewhat similar to the type of leeway you give kids. A kid could draw a horrible picture, ask me if I think it looks good and I’d rephrase the truth in order to make them feel better about themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:57 PM
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I gave you a single example yes. You’re looking at it through the most negative and pessimistic lens. There’s a cultural dance between the sexes with these things, hundreds upon hundreds of different examples that probably exist because it’s effective/fun, but like I said there could be some biological incentives too. Just like me, you can pick and choose which ones you subscribe to if any at all. I do it because I was taught it and it makes me feel good (it’s also always positively taken. If it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:17 PM
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Well I’m a man so I don’t know really, I wasn’t thought it. Off the top something like pretending to struggle with a jar of jam so the guy can do it and get praised for being strong and manly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:44 PM
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It’s subjective. I don’t think all differences or inequalities are toxic. I think these things are part of a traditional culture that I find admirable. Could even be some biological incentives to it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:12 PM
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Obviously not
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 12:40 PM
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Well the vast majority of the time when I pay for people, I have to "force" them to since they insist on paying for themselves. That said, there’s also a different dynamic when it comes to dating. Like I said I enjoy the romantic tradition aspect of it. I subscribe to similar traditions in dating and I don’t with the things I find toxic or unimportant. I hold open doors, slide out chairs, buy flowers, give clothes when she’s cold, walk on the car side of the sidewalk and other forms of pampering…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:21 AM
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Depends on the specific situation. For example, I always pay because I find it to be charming in a traditional kind of way. Same way I’ll pay for a friend of mine if we’re out eating. I was brought up to share and not be selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 06:47 AM
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Obviously yes. Sex is not the only reason for why you’d want to be with someone. I feel sorry for all the potential partners of guys who would answer "no" to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:27 AM
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It’s biologically ingrained to a degree. I think there’s another factor to it too that people often don’t mention, society acts as if a guy who workouts most days, has clearly developed and natural muscles and low body fat is somehow 1 in a thousand and should be. That it’s an unfair expectation to have for someone. I think this is weird because 99% of human history it has been how guys look. It’s only after the explosion of mass production of shit foods the average became floppy and without mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:59 PM
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Seems overly dismissive. My gf enjoys it, I enjoy it, it always comes with thorough cleaning, so has never seen nor smelled anything poopy. Even her just reaching for the tv remote under the bed leaving her behind exposed makes me throw myself in there to "eat". Neurons activated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:04 PM
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Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:46 PM
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Well no but then the post basically is "men already cheat more and they’d cheat even more if given the chance" which sounded a bit like a dead end of a conversation but it could be interesting to discuss sure
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:45 PM
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Don’t men report higher cheating rates than women already? But I could imagine this being the case regardless. I’ve always felt like a lot of guys just settle, they’re not really in love. As a guy, if you’re truly in love (speaking for myself of course) porn or even looking at another girl looses its effect. When I’m in love (mind you I have a high body count too and no shortage of daily opportunities) all my sexual desires automatically goes to her. This might not be the norm though but idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 05:58 PM
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What do you mean? The fact that they’re more successful at dating out of their league? Because that’s 100% on men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:40 PM
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Doesn’t matter. Either someone dates out of their league because they can, or they want to but can’t and just end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:35 PM
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Yeah I think that goes for most people. I’m probably an outlier. If I’m attracted to someone physically and psychologically and we get together, it just becomes a relationship where I’m really into her as a person and enjoy being with her, but something is still missing. Before I fell in love, I thought this was what love felt like, and it made me stay in a 5+ long relationship with someone I didn’t truly love. I used to tell myself "I’m so attracted to them, they’re such a beautiful person, I e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:44 PM
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Personally I’ve only been in love once and it was more or less "love at first sight". I couldn’t explain it properly. Yes it turned out we shared our ideas, world views and what not, we matched looks wise as both are somewhat alternative, we both saw the other one as the most beautiful person we’ve ever seen, and we got along ideally. But why my heart chose them even before knowing them, I have no clue. And I have a high body count and been in years long relationships before. So whenever a girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:13 PM
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Revenge as in what? Incel shooters? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:11 AM
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Yes. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:15 AM
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Ok clearly you’ve given up. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:06 AM
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Step down to my level yes As clear and concise as you can
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:51 AM
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Do I agree or disagree with what? Be super clear and concise please.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:42 AM
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What a mind boggling response. I need another coffee or five to try to decipher whatever this is. What is the societal problem you’re talking about and what is your solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:38 AM
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Source of what? Women started working and educating themselves plus society becoming safer hence less practical need of securing a man. 80% what? 40% what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:28 AM
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I think there’s truth to that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:24 AM
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I’m not trying to be being rude just clear and descriptive. For the third or fourth time now you’ve ignored the conversation I’m trying to have. So I’ll try again, work together how?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:19 AM
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Because it’s a bunch of irrelevant nonsense. It would be obvious to anyone reading our conversation so far that you have a thick skull to say the least. My guess would be that you’re very young. But I can step down to your level, work together how?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:04 AM
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I think this guy believes 80% of men are going to die alone. Like you say, most people do get in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:57 AM
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Just answer my questions instead. Have a conversation. You can do it. If you say it’s the fault of feminism then I’m assuming you’re talking about the fact that women started to work and educate themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:54 AM
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So you would rather have a world where women don’t work and don’t educate themselves then? Who are you to devoid them of that right? I’m a man and I’d much rather have everyone advance. Plus men aren’t struggling as much as the internet would have you believe. Yes it’s true that younger people struggle more with dating and are more lonely, but that goes for both sexes. And a lot of it is due to technology and the internet. People hang out with friends in person less too. Also for the second time…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:37 AM
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It’s a result of society advancing, nobody’s fault or intent. If you think that’s unfair, again, what other solution exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:18 AM
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If you’re getting 100 nos you’re going wayyyy out your league
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:17 AM
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So time for those 80% to up their game. Literally what other option exists for them? Women needed men historically for safety and economy, they don’t anymore, so being an interesting person is more important now. Call it unfair or unlucky, but evolutionary this is better, everybody wins if people choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:09 AM
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It mostly comes from guys who never approached anyone. They are already fed up with women or culture to begin with and already subscribe to the idea that approaching means being called a creep or being accused of something worse. Nobody in their right mind approaches someone out of the blue, usually you approach someone when some form of mutual interest already has been established. At the very minimum she has looked at you in a clearly interested and flirty way first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:16 PM
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Honestly I think some of it is "acting". It’s the cultural norm. Personally if I’m in love, I don’t fantasize about anyone else, it just doesn’t do anything for me as all my romantic and sexual thought automatically goes to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:41 PM
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I heard from a friend of mine that another friend apparently was super nagging with a girl-friend of ours. Neither me nor my friend could look at him the same way after.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:26 PM
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It usually doesn’t matter. It’s something that unravels after the point of developing a crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:49 PM
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Well it’s obvious that the world would be a whole lot more peaceful without men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:10 PM
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If someone wants to defend their homeland what’s the problem? Making people by force is wrong. Circumcision is always bad unless an adult or old enough person needs it medically or wants it for some other reason. I’m happy mine is intact, it looks better and feels better apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:35 PM
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You can get a fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:33 PM
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You don’t have to look for a point in the past in order to think someone should be able to uphold a certain standard in the present or in/into the future. Women have only recently gotten their rights and they’ve only become more successful. Men are the ones who seem to fall behind a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:04 AM
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Based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:56 AM
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It’s not exclusive to a sex, it’s a human being thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:51 PM
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I was in the same situation but as a man with a girl. She is objectively top tier beautiful both facially and body wise, took care of me in an extremely good way, was kind, sweet like an angel, believed in me, wanted my kids, literally provided for me for 4 years when I was lost in a horrible depression.. I could go on, but there was not a single thing to change on paper. But all throughout the relationship I had this haunting feeling deep down in my heart that she wasn’t the one - this made me …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:30 PM
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waddoyoumean
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:52 PM
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Nothing stops you from being a very masculine liberal. Which literally is the golden standard. You get best from both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:11 PM
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Who cares if a girl wants to be famous by doing porn with a thousand dudes or whatever? Why is that morally bad? Who cares if guys like Clavicular wants to be famous by "looksmaxxing? Why is that morally bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:26 AM
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Potentially, though probably to a significantly lower degree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:14 PM
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My gf talks negatively about men often, it would never offend me because I’m not included in that. I think there’s a point in the fact that the world would probably be a whole lot more peaceful if there only were women in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:09 PM
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Proves nothing. Since tinder came out, whenever I’ve used it I’ll get ~10-20 good matches on first day Could be due to the specific culture where you’re at too. More liberal and chill view on dating, hooking up etc = less judgement and more freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:07 PM
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This is probably true to a large percentage of men, but there are others as well. Before I knew what actually being in love was, I only thought I knew and then yes I was confusing physical attraction and intimacy + getting along with someone and thinking they’re good people as love. Now I’d say being is love is wanting someone for their brain/personality first. You’d rather have your person be who they are but for whatever hypothetical reason never be able to touch them physically - than be able…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:52 PM
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Who I love isn’t decided by who has more sex with me. I have a high body count, two long relationship included in that (one lasted 7 years). Yet I’m in a relationship for the last 1,5 years with the love of my life. The love I have for her far surpasses anything else I’ve ever felt, it can’t be compared in the slightest - I’ve never met her in person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:28 PM
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That’s on you lol. A false reality created by one of our earlier conversations. Because I know for a fact I’ve never claimed to be a girl so
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:55 PM
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I’m saying, people make it sound like they’re or want to approach people as if catching them by surprise, in other words with zero prior positive communication, non verbal or verbal. Awkwardness is a difficult one, naturally people get put off by it. It sends subliminal signals that something is wrong/tense. It makes people uncomfortable. So obviously if you struggle with general awkwardness is makes things more difficult. And that’s just being very awkward, being a bit awkward here and there ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:53 PM
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The whole walking up to people is a weird lie to begin with. I’ve been approached romantically and approached romantically hundreds of times with almost 10/10 "success rate", why? Because some reciprocal showcasing of mutual interest has already been established beforeeeee approaching someone… At the bear minimum has both parties looked at each other in a flirty, inviting manner usually multiple times. You’d have to really fuck up things socially after that if you drop the ball. Sooo much of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:40 AM
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Neither would I
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:33 PM
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It wasn’t that black and white at the time. It is horrible in some ways, but beautiful in others. I was only 21 when we met, zero prior experience of love or that serious relationships. Sometimes in life we try our best, or just think we’re trying are best, or even try our best to not think about it at all, and people get hurt. You can’t rewrite the past but you can use it to become a better person. To exist is some complex and confusing shit sometimes yk
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:12 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:04 PM
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Where are men’s issues not being talked about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:43 PM
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Only approach people who have shown interest first. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:34 PM
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I find this whole cold approach thing very strange. If I were to approach someone there would at least have to be some established mutual interest there. Perhaps the girl has looked at me in a flirty, inviting manner before hand at least
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:33 PM
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I have a high body count mostly from casual situations but also a past relationship that lasted 7 years. Throughout my past, I was never "looking to date" I just entertained people who were interested in me. I was in that 7 year long relationship in hindsight partly due to fear of hurting her if I broke up, and since the relationship was so good on paper, her as a person in etc, I figured surely this is what love is. Yet deep inside I had this reoccurring feeling that I was leading her on or was…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:45 PM
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She gave such honest answer including answering that very question/assumption more than once, yet that’s what your response is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:45 PM
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A sleeve for example isn’t necessarily a 1-1 solution though. Surely you understand some people wouldn’t like that simply because it’s not their own body, regardless if it’s the receiver or giver
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:26 PM
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Why can’t you say that? I’ve heard people who prefer races say that lots of times
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:24 PM
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Well it would be almost 1/3, nobody knows what’s under your pants
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:16 PM
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Excellent counter argument. Can’t argue against that without being illogical
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:15 PM
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So how come then I’m 5’10.5, sure I’m 7.5 down there but I’m broke as a joke, still since I lost my V at 14 I’ve had girls more or less daily show interest in me. My body count is high, and ~90% of those situations it has been the girl who makes the first move. Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:14 PM
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How is it being discriminated against if someone has another preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:10 PM
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Lmao that’s hilarious. A creative version of "it’s not you it’s me”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:09 PM
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"..filters out a lot of men.. women don’t get filtered out to nearly the same degree.." - why are these things bad? Reasonable because confidence is a valuable trait + women will generally have more access to male interest as opposed to the inverse. I agree it’s not reasonable to expect everyone to be confident, but again, if those men are going to struggle more, what’s the point? It’s a conversation ender. It’s like saying people who play a lot of football will generally be better at football. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:34 PM
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Probably. But I also think a large number of men wouldn’t prefer a unconfident woman. And some men specifically dislike confident women because of their own insecurities and whatnot. But let’s pretend it’s solely a preference held by woman, what’s the problem still? It’s like saying women not preferring ugly men is putting men in a disadvantage. Yes that would be putting ugly men at a disadvantage, but seeing how the preference itself is so reasonable, it almost becomes a non issue. Wanting to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:15 PM
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I’m rather confused about the question as a whole? Why are these necessarily red flags? 1 - I can see this as not wise since there’s nicer more relaxed things you can talk about early on. But if the guy is socially intelligent, this won’t ever be an issue either way. Furthermore if both people are ok with heavy subjects, or even interested in where the other stands early on, this becomes another non issue. 2 - mumbling? I guess that’s potentially annoying if I picture it, but having no experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:02 PM
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Confidence is obviously attractive. Confident people are going to have a better time making friends, romantic relationships, careers etc. It makes perfect biological sense why confidence is ranked highly. Everyone loves confidence more or less. Watch any movie ever, read about any heroic well liked historical character
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:01 PM
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I’m using it half seriously in relevance to the sub and to create certain engagement. Not even sure what it means. I’m under the assumption it’s basically not-redpill, redpill is dumb hence I choose that. More importantly, I don’t think what I’m saying is so much about "ideological grounds" as much as it’s about different personality traits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:13 AM
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I see far more men complaining about women than the inverse. Which makes sense because I don’t think women have the same general issues with dating. 90% of complaints and self reported issues on this sub can be solved by a man simply being the best of both worlds of the two stereotypical groups of "empathetic, open minded, kind soyboy" and "confident, strong, masculine alpha male". Singling out the positives from both sides you become a golden unicorn. I don’t understand how this isn’t something…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:27 PM
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It’s one of those old school traditions I personally find charming so I never had issues with it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:24 PM
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I think a lot of dudes have very difficult time taking rejection when it’s very upfront and honest. How many millions of times do you think there has been a relationship where the guy eventually asks about his girls body count, only to then get a horrible reaction when he finds out it’s higher than he thought? Or about his penis size, or how good he is in bed for example? A lot of guys like to front like "just be 100% transparent, I’m so logical and stoic I’ll appreciate it much more", when in r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:37 PM
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Nobody is stopping you from wanting a "bangmaid" nor is anyone criticizing you for having such preferences (you don’t have to tell anyone remember?). The bigger question is, are you successful in this? I can’t exactly imagine overall great girls are throwing themselves at your feet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:25 PM
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Isn’t it like every 3rd or 4th woman will experience sexual assault in their life? Sounds pretty scary if you ask me. I know I wouldn’t for example take a job where every 3rd or 4th person ends up dying a horrible death or something
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:03 PM
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What feminists say women can’t consent after have any amount of alcohol? Here we go with this lie again lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:39 PM
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Could be true as a general rule, but that doesn’t stop you from being the rule breaker. Boys you can be attractive and highly sought after in the eyes of others yet also value your own loyalty and honesty extremely highly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:54 PM
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You’re talking as if a majority of men are incels. I find women’s advice to be really good actually. I think it less has to do with the advice being bad, and more so about whoever is interpreting is having trouble understanding it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:52 PM
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You’re talking as if a majority of men are incels. I find women’s advice to be really good actually. I think it less has to do with the advice being bad, and more so about whoever is interpreting is having trouble understanding it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:52 PM
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I’ve lived a whole 31 years already. And it’s funny because when you know how to defend yourself and your loved ones, it’s like trouble never comes your way to begin with. I wouldn’t want my gf to feel like she can’t confine in me to protect her. That would be horrible. I see it as my natural part of the male role in the species. Her feeling thoroughly safe around me is of huge importance, not only physically but emotionally as well
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:12 PM
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Sounds like you lack your own personality or confidence. You’re making normal human communication sound very robotic, stale or soulless
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:58 AM
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Why would they state all those things? Like making a list agreement for breeding dogs or something. The unknowns are part of the romance and fun^^
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:54 AM
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So you’re letting a girl set the standard for all girls you’re meeting after that? Sounds awful lot like AI programming or something to be brutally honest. People are different. Perhaps try.. idk.. figuring out what seems appropriate based on that particular individual and situation. Then there are also no brainers, hiking alone in the wilderness and going to the movies seems like odd first date activities for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:43 AM
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You’re reading too much negativity into it. It’s a romantically (or even platonically) nice, honorable gesture. It’s both nice for who does it and the recipient. Plus it’s biologically ingrained, I want to do all those things for my gf, or a pet, or random child, I’m sure my gf would be the same way towards our hypothetical child as well because of motherly instincts. She’s not physically high above average strength and combat training, she’s non violent, doesn’t know how to fight, has never bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:24 AM
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A majority of attractive women date bad men? What do you base that on?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:58 PM
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Sweden which by the way also is ranked very highly when it comes to equality and human rights, living conditions etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:57 PM
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It’s actually crazy how far some of these men go. I’ve witnessed myself her own boss touch her inappropriately and constantly openly flirt with her, I even had to tell him to stop and as a newly employed I was risking a lot too. And a few months ago he had his wife and kids visiting the office...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:26 PM
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It still comes down to choice. Nobody forces men do be this way or do these things. You simply do if you care and think it’s a good thing. It doesn’t have to be completely symmetrical to be valuable to someone. Nobody at my job owes me anything, yet I’ll give colleagues snacks periodically or give them compliments and so on. I think it’s a nice thing to do, I feel good doing it, so I do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:52 PM
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As a hypersexual man who consumed a fuck ton of porn growing up, I had a friend of mine who presented a few arguments against it, which I agreed with, so I just stopped consuming it altogether. Her arguments could basically be summarized into: "you can never really know who has consented or not, or who simply regrets that it exists but for one reason or another can’t have it removed". Having those thoughts in the back of my mind ruined the experience permanently pretty much. Secondly, and I get …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:54 AM
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Red pill only makes sense when you understand that it’s something for unconfident people to feel more confident. That’s why if you look closely enough at a red piller, past the loosely glued together gigachad facade, you see a typical "nerd" (not to be confused with cool nerds that are good people and who don’t let whatever hardships turn them into spiteful people who seek revenge on the world).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:38 AM
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Well you can be the judge of that risk and following precaution. As an average guy I’ve had sex countless of times involving alcohol and girls (drugs too), and never had to deal or worry about being accused of sexual assault. Also hearing about the topic for the past decade or so, I disagree that feminists talk about it with a lack of clarity as you put it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:31 AM
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Can only speak for myself. I used to watch a lot of porn when I was a kid, but someone presented some arguments for why consuming porn is unethical and I agreed and haven’t watched it since then. Although now, I wouldn’t watch it anyways because I’m only attracted to my gf so it doesn’t do much for me. I’d rather close my eyes and fantasize about her or watch lewdities of her/us
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:16 AM
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I think the premise within the premise is wrong. I’ve certainly not heard that "any time a woman has had any amount of alcohol she can’t consent" as a common feminist talking point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:51 AM
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I’m like this, but it isn’t done with any expectations in return. It’s never been badly received because I’m not doing it blindly. I’d never order food for someone, or do anything else where I’m making decisions on their behalf. You pick and choose what seems reasonable. Giving my jacket to my gf or friend is reasonable because usually people are colder than me. Carrying bags for my gf seems reasonable because I’m physically very strong so I enjoy it. Picking her up to cross some flooded street …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:10 PM
0

I can see why you think that but it’s not. Considering the issue and assessment you’re presenting (regardless if it’s true or not) I’m presenting the solution. A solution by the way, you yourself claim is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:05 PM
1

If you want to stay alone nobody is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:59 PM
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No relationship is 50/50 to a razor margin. Humans are different, so people compromise within those differences. I might have a friend who is much more emotionally sensitive than me, if I value that friend, I might have to be way more emotionally protective and reassuring towards them. I don’t seek half of that particular trait to come from them because it’s not who they are. They instead offer other things, things I might or might not offer reciprocally. What you’re talking about only works if …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:36 PM
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I never understand what’s so hard to get that you can be masculine even old school masculine/romantic, but you just make sure to remove all toxic traits. You combine the good sides of the "alpha" with the good sides of the "spiderman" as you put it. That way you become the gold standard, generally ticking every box.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:05 PM
3

You don’t feel strange meeting her parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:37 PM
3

I mean yeah at that point they’re so outside any form of rational consistency that they’re more likely just misogynistic, in which case, you already know their views and trying to have a coherent discussion is pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:44 PM
3

If they argue that, then you ask them if they then only consider vaginal rape non traumatic. Whereas any rape involving touching, oral, anal etc is just as traumatic as a man getting raped through penetration by another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:58 PM
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No because working is still considered voluntary. It would be more akin to prostitution if anything. This is without going into the negative impacts these things can have on people. Both can be traumatic and psychologically damaging but there are specific differences still. Let’s just say, having to work can be bad, whereas being a sex slave is probably almost always bad. When it comes to the point about men saying rape wouldn’t be traumatic to them, next time, ask them what if it was another ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:38 PM
8

Well you get paid in one
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:26 PM
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Nobody is deserving of things like success or romance by simply existing. Also let’s pretend that these dudes will never get chosen and aren’t going to reproduce. Why is that bad? Shouldn’t humans prioritize superior genes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:03 PM
5

I think the distinction is about the woman in question being approached from out of the blue, or if there’s some reciprocal showcasing of interest first. The only girl (who is a complete stranger) that I’d approach romantically is a girl who has at the very least checked me out in a flirtatious manner first.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:11 PM
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If that’s a simp to you then sure I guess so lol. I think we have different definitions of self respect. For example, I know how to defend myself and I have a long background of fighting. But let’s say a 10 year old child or a woman slaps me in the face for no reason, I wouldn’t answer with violence. It has happened in the past and I never did. Whereas last time a man tried to get head to head with me a tussle ensued. The difference is the threat evaluation. Generally speaking the woman or kid i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:59 PM
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Except you’re wrong. I’ve never been this way to be successful with women or anyone. It’s just as much for me in that moment. Makes me feel good to be good. It was one of the things my hyper masculine maybe not so present sailer father made sure to teach me from a very early age. Having been this way for decades now, I’ve only ever seen upsides. Both to how it’s received and how it impacts me internally like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:22 PM
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I do all those things because I find it to be rewarding both ways. I enjoy the poetic aspect of it. Same reason why I’d help an animal in need or some kids that got their football stuck up in a tree. It’s one of the positive aspects of traditional masculinity imo. And if I were to guess, I think men who are this way tend to be more successful with women (or socially overall) generally as well. It shows good charisma, honor, respect and openness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:05 PM
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Well sure, it’s the same reason why people would call the celebrity Lizzo (I think that’s how it’s spelled) a baddie (not to be mean to her or call her unattractive but it’s a common example of unconventionally attractive). It’s more so a way to hype someone up. The equivalent in male form would be gigachad or something like that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:28 PM
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Baddie just means you think you’re hot, alpha comes with a whole list of other traits. Not comparable imo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:23 AM
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Isn’t it like 20-30% of young men who haven’t had sex for the past year? The internet makes it sound like it’s the overwhelming majority. I’m below the national average height, I’m pretty much broke, yet I’ve never struggled. Neither have any of my friends. I think some men make it hard for themselves. They either have multiple negative traits, when in reality you don’t even need a single negative trait, or they have serious issues with pessimism and jealousy, always rotting away in their own ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:42 PM
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Although I’ve relied on them a lot in the past, a year and a half ago I met the love of my life there. Both want to be exclusive forever. We have argued 0 times. Neither one of us have ever felt even close to what we feel for each other ever. Because of that I’m insanely grateful for that specific app, seeing how much we love each other and how perfectly we match, thinking about the sheer odds of us meeting is mind boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:26 PM
1

Use the free options, might as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:22 PM
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I’m 31, 5’10-5’11, make 20k a year, few good friends, make friends easily, workout most days. Apps have been the easiest way for both casual and serious relationships by far. You swipe right - the other swipe right, that already establishes a mutual interest judging by pictures. Then it’s more or less done. You text them in a normal manner, being upfront with your intentions and set a date. I never understood this widespread hatred of dating apps. It literally can’t be more handed to your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:43 PM
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It’s related to the topic at hand. You can disrespect women by wanting to remove their rights - you can disrespect them by eye fucking them. It’s all part of the bigger cake of lack of respect. Hence most men wouldn’t want men to treat their loved ones the same (hypocrisy), or don’t respect a woman’s boundaries until there’s another male in the picture (hypocrisy + cowardice). I don’t have a grudge towards most men I’ve met no. I’m open to the possibility of my assumptions being wrong, but havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:17 PM
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The point with that was to rebuttal the "bbbbut I’m just a mere man under control of my biological instincts". Yes, the reason why I don’t look at strangers bodies whether it’s because they’re dressing showing more of their bodies or have deformations, IS to be respectful. There’s a practical example in front of me as I write this. I’m in the park during my lunch break, super sunny day, there’s a girl tanning in the grass on her belly in a bikini. There’s two separate men fully clothed, greasy l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:35 PM
1

Confidence is attractive to everyone, friends, partners, business partners etc. I’m extremely confident, your description is me. Yet I’m also super kind and empathetic. It’s not impossible:)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:04 PM
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Nope. Just saying it doesn’t ruin the experience of eating the apple as it does when watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:32 PM
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Not caring just means not letting views like the ones you’re describing affect one’s own sense of style. I’m a man. I’m hypersexual. Lost my V at 14 years old and have been sexually active since. Get daily looks and attention from girls. Yet I have no problem not staring or drooling over someone’s body. I can control my eyes same way I can when I see someone with an unusual deformation. My monkey brain can want to look, I can decide not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:31 PM
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Just what’s comfortable and looks cool in my eyes. That people make assumptions based on looks is going to happen regardless. I’ve always had my own style plus live in a society that’s pretty stylistically monotone, so I’ve gotten used to getting looks. Tbh I rarely even notice the bad looks, what sticks out are the people who look at me in a good way, give compliments or kids that’s are fascinated for example. No norm yes, meaning if a girl wants to wear a miniskirt and tummy shirt with her nip…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:18 PM
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It’s mind blowing that you believe genuine love based relationships don’t exist. I was with my ex for 7 years, I worked for two years, then began struggling with mental health issues so the rest she provided for both. I’m with the love of my life now going on 1,5 years, she has asked for material things zero times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:10 PM
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I’m not disagreeing with that. I’m saying the only way to decrease that happening, is by more people not caring and dressing as freely as they want. You’d generally be more safe and blend in more wearing a bikini in Miami Beach than you would wearing a bikini in Afghanistan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:45 AM
7

…like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:42 AM
1

Sure, but like I said, eating that apple isn’t making me think of that potentiality. Whereas watching someone’s porn does, which ruins the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:41 AM
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Yeah. I usually have no issues separating the art from the artist, but I just think porn sits in its own bracket in this case. Women’s sexuality is still considered something negative, even if so many consume things like porn frequently. If society’s views were less hypocritical and more loving perhaps I’d think differently. And that’s true with the independent creators. It’s less risky probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:40 AM
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Of course. That’s a healthy perspective to have. I understand the comparisons between any regrets tied to any professions, but I think porn has other baggage behind it. Watching someone’s naked body whilst thinking about the existing reality of them regretting it removes the fun out of it for me. It leaves me feeling bad instead of good. I haven’t looked at the numbers (if they exist), but just guessing, I can also imagine that the rate of people regretting porn - and the impact that has on them…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:58 PM
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Of course. That’s a healthy perspective to have. I understand the comparisons between any regrets tied to any professions, but I think porn has other baggage behind it. Watching someone’s naked body whilst thinking about the existing reality of them regretting it removes the fun out of it for me. It leaves me feeling bad instead of good. I haven’t looked at the numbers (if they exist), but just guessing, I can also imagine that the rate of people regretting porn - and the impact that has on them…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:58 PM
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That’s true but if I had to make the choice between eating an apple someone didn’t feel like picking and supporting someone’s porn they no longer stand by, I’d eat the apple. Plus take into account the occurrence of abuse/harm/psychological damage etc in these professions. The porn industry is damn near fueled by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:39 PM
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I don’t see how you can agree with one and not the other. At least personally speaking, I wouldn’t be able to enjoy porn someone genuinely wishes didn’t exist. Porn that potentially even actively is harming someone’s reputation and/or feelings. I’d just be sad watching that shit instead of enjoying it. And since I could never know, and being without it isn’t a big sacrifice, I’m better off not consuming any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:35 PM
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What are some criticisms then that you think are valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:13 PM
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Just because you receive attention doesn’t mean that’s why you’re dressing that way. When I workout at home or in the forest alone, I’m always at the very least shirtless, even in wintertime when it’s minus degrees and snowing. I worked hard for my ripped physique and seeing the muscle fibers, veins and my sweaty body motivates me. Same with why I’m so tatted even, I couldn’t care less about what others think of it, I like it when I see my own body. Also the part about "being seen as a human…" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:32 PM
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I can just speak for myself. I used to consume lots of porn growing up, but then I had a conversation about it with a girl friend of mine, she argued that it’s bad because you can never know who has and who hasn’t consented really, or even who regrets their porn yet it still exists. That was enough for me to agree and stop consuming it completely. Now I either watch animated porn that doesn’t involve real humans, or my own "porn":>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:20 AM
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Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:32 AM
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I’m agreeing with you just saying it takes a pretty special person to "humble themselves and not be so unappealing". Often times it’s due to their personality, and people generally aren’t too excited on changing things internally like that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:51 PM
0

It’s possible that the average guy isn’t good enough too, standards aren’t high enough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:39 PM
1

What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:38 PM
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Just realistically judging by your own looks and personality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:19 PM
0

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:23 PM
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That’s easier said than done. Sometimes you can’t teach an old dog to sit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:19 PM
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I think a lot has to do with having ego. Men by default seem to be very keen on comparing themselves to other men. They’ll be jealous of guys who are more talented, men who have beautiful physiques, men with more unique and expressive styles, jealous of men of their partners past, jealous of men they deem as unworthy who according to them still find success etc. I’ve said it a hundred times before, if you’re struggling as a man, aim lower. Either aim across the board, or go lower to further incr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:13 PM
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Kinda exposing yourself with this one ngl. I’ve never chased ever
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:52 PM
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Interesting. But I have a hard time believing men would listen to that. They hardly listen to equality, now imagine changing men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:16 PM
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I don’t understand how you’d even find yourself in a sexless marriage to begin with. Of course people’s hormones and sexlust can fluctuate for different reasons, but generally speaking, if your partner isn’t excited to get physical with you, there’s something wrong. Either the person isn’t attracted to you because they simply lost interest, or you’re actively screwing things up which makes them less horny for you. But cheating and manipulating people using "game" is horrible advice, if of course…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:09 PM
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Well they probably aren’t doing the things I said for starters. Don’t underestimate how many people today are socially awkward and super unconfident
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:44 AM
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People of lower economic class have more kids and they’re also more likely to have criminal records
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:09 PM
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Following this premise, my usual point stands that it’s never been easier dating as a guy. If you take good care of yourself, you’re socially and emotionally stimulating enough, masculine without the toxic parts, egoless and just a chill person with good intentions, dating is smooth sailing. I’ve never tried hard, have a high body count and ~85% of those have been girls making the first move. The general feedback I’ve gotten is that I’m just a chill, kind person that people enjoy hanging out wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:02 PM
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Sounds like you should live in Afghanistan or something like that then? I think you’re missing a larger issue - which is lots of people have become socially inept because of the internet. That’s literally it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:17 PM
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Population drop could very well be a good thing as well. Plus, if women are being much more picky with whom they start family’s with, then that could also improve the species as a whole. Being physically attractive is directly correlated to superior health. And choosing better and more interesting personalities puts pressure on those who are falling behind to step up and improve too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:09 PM
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It’s not, but in that hypothetical they’d be right (if we of course assume what you’re saying about how men act is true).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:47 PM
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I’m extremely masculine, even traditionally so, I just made sure to remove all the toxic parts. Easy. Also I think people underestimate the value of purpose. What’s your ambitions? If your dream and passion is to have a family at some point, that’s in modern times a pretty low bar (although sufficient for some obviously). Try perfecting a craft instead, something larger than life. For example, I’m a musician and part time painter/tattooer, and those things are usually enough to make people very …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:42 PM
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Perhaps yeah. I can only speak for myself and I prioritize someone being intellectually and emotionally stimulating over just good sex and a persons looks (to a point). And that’s speaking as someone who is hypersexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:34 PM
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I was with my ex for 7 years. I worked for 2 of those years. Rest I was unemployed and struggling with mental health issues. She provided for all those years. How is that possible? I’m with the love of my life now, and we’ve been together for 1,5 years, she has asked for material things zero times. How is that possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:31 PM
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I think it definitely increases the odds of it for sure. But I still think you can simply use bad prior experiences to make choices to mitigate future bad outcomes using pattern recognition, drawing nothing else into the equation. It’s not enough per se, but it’s less overblown and more statistically significant to then be careful of all men yes. 1 in 5 is a big number. So I wouldn’t fault the woman necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:24 AM
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It’s not different. Both can choose to avoid the group. It doesn’t necessarily have to make them sexist or racist even, but more so literally worried/perhaps unnecessarily careful. Plus, men are statistically more of an issue violence/crime wise than black people are js.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:04 AM
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So women should stop wanting equality and instead start asking for a total reform of male culture as a whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:15 AM
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I swiped right on my gf - she swiped right on me - we matched - she wrote.. I think you’re also underestimating the impacts of making people uncomfortable period. It’s not normal to make others feel uncomfortable. It’s a negative deviation socially. You’re either looking very off putting or you’re moving very strangely, in either case, maybe don’t continue to approach people like that. Clearly people are seeing something you’re not. Be self aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:09 AM
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Let’s say this is all true in sake of the argument, isn’t the natural conclusion that men should do better? You’re pointing out the same issues but just saying it’s even bigger of a problem..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:19 PM
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I don’t see how this is a criticism against women as a specifically though? I’m sure if there was a viral case of some hot female serial killer, lots of dudes would also find her attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:19 PM
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Well you can’t just make a 1-1 comparison like that and draw that conclusion. Like I said, the first logical guess should be that it’s about being famous
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:09 PM
2

Who is allowing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:08 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:52 PM
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And you don’t think that has to do with basic exposure? Thousands if not millions know of this person, whereas only a few know of the other one? It’s fame after all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:29 PM
10

Are you seriously saying a serial killer will get better results than a non serial killer?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:23 PM
2

That’s about the same number I had in my first year after I lost my V at 14… Isn’t it funny though. You guys always say "women just need to exist in order to get laid" yet if that was true for guys, your own number would probably be in the hundreds if not thousands. So how can you judge a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:25 PM
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Is the "has slept with.. wait for it.. SIX MEN" supposed to be high?😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:57 PM
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Why would you want to be with a woman who doesn’t have a sex drive and sees sex as a reward? Go for normal women who also enjoy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:17 PM
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I think most men would for example rape if the conditions were right. Like let’s say all men had a magical button they could press to freeze time, become invisible and 100% untraceable, it wouldn’t surprise me if more than half of all men would at some point in their life use it to assault someone at least once. That said, I still don’t need it to be true. I call myself feminist because according to the word in every dictionary that’s exists, it’s about equality between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:06 PM
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If you’re talking about young people dating less, then I’d say it’s probably more due to people socializing less and how internet has affected that. Honestly I think it’s good that women are being less available overall, it hopefully increases the standards on men as a whole. I have a friend who has a crazy high body count and he’s looking for a committed relationship. He has told me for the past three of his relationships they all end because there’s too much arguing. Which to me is wild becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:56 PM
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I mean speak for yourself, I have never had those issues since I started dating at 14
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:02 PM
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You don’t work on being interested, you either are or you’re not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:25 AM
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Well for most of human history men just had to provide safety or income. Now when women are generally safe and make their own money, naturally men need to provide something else. Things like idk.. being an actually interesting person for starters
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:24 AM
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I have lots of similar examples, do you have none? You never knew a guy who wasn’t the best looking but had a charisma so high he was viewed as attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:50 PM
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Right, and that’s 100% valid. You don’t choose who your heart picks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:09 PM
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I’m talking about where it does happen of course. I’m physically pretty attractive, my body count is high, but as a teen/early twenties I didn’t have much of a personality, I relied on my looks and had girls make the first move regularly. So I never had to really. I have a good friend who is much less attractive than me just conventionally speaking, yet he was getting laid at the same rate because he’s super funny and was always the light of the party
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:08 PM
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I’m not talking about someone you’re not at all attracted to, I’m talking about someone at your lower levels of what you find attractive who increases their value by having a better personality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:03 PM
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You say often yet I never see it. At least when it comes to looks not mattering. Personality being superior to looks when it comes to serious relationships, I would agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:25 PM
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It’s perhaps difficult to quantify regardless, but I see couples everyday where the dude is way below the girl in looks. So either he’s rich and she values that, or she is attracted to his personality. There are ugly artists that girls would do anything to be with because they’re talented and that makes them attractive. It’s also important to remember that when you are in love with someone, the brain actually perceives them as more physically attractive than what they might be on a "objective sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:21 PM
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Well obviously being average or above in looks is helpful. Who is claiming it’s not? It’s not strange or mean to want to be physically attracted to your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:17 PM
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Advice as? Well the OPs claim is that it would pass a peer review. I think the bp would less argue that it could offer advice that increases chance of getting laid, I think the pushback has to do more with the moral aspect of it. I could manipulate people to get what I want, but if I’m a good person, I wouldn’t because it’s not ethical to be a manipulator
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:02 PM
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What kind of science and data does rp use?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:42 PM
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Well it’s true. For serious relationships, most women would probably choose a 4/10 looks & 8/10 personality guy, over a 8/10 looks & 4/10 personality guy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:55 PM
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Well a good personality wins over a bad personality in most cases by far. It’s what makes people stay. And it’s obviously good advice to be yourself. Otherwise are you intending on being someone else? Just acting the whole time? Grooming and dressing nicely are just baseline things. Good things to make sure to do if you’re not already.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:51 PM
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She doesn’t sound interested period, like the person below is saying. They’re making the same points I’d make, so I’ll leave this one to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:33 PM
1

I’ve certainly not seen it. What do you base this notion on? Any examples showing the vast majority of women think looks don’t matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:31 PM
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Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:41 AM
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Who told you women as a whole claim looks don’t matter? Thats ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:41 AM
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Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:58 AM
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You can definitely criticize groups to varying degrees of effectiveness. I’m just struggling to see what you would blame women for when it comes to dating? So go ahead and provide some examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:43 AM
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As a man I don’t care about my gf submitting in the first place. My gf loves me for me, I love her for her. Neither have things the other needs to do for us. There’s no contract, yet everything takes care of itself because it’s automatic. Both cook, both clean, both do laundry etc. we could be together on a deserted island and we’d love each other just the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:44 PM
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I think smart combined with silly jokes work great. I was the class clown because I didn’t do shit in school education wise anyways. More importantly I jokingly sarcastically and using irony from a very early age. For example, I recently read a old "school interview paper" I found at home, where my class were going on a 3 day long summer trip and the school asked some student questions to film and later publish on a local newspaper blog. The guy asked me "so what have you packed for the trip?" -…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:49 PM
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I always just thought they were stupid, but maybe unintelligent and lack of social/self awareness are two sides of the same coin in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:26 PM
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I’m not just fucking to make myself orgasm. I can orgasm in a few minutes if I wanted to, but I have sex for an hour, sometimes more. It’s just as much about the journey as it’s about the climax. Real men make women orgasm;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:44 AM
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Personally if anything, I’d say they’re probably "crazy" therefor (probably including more reasons a well) they’re struggling to get laid. So the other way around. But even if someone said the reversed version like the one you’re claiming, then why do you even need to assume they’re pushing something? I could say, "Kanye west is crazy because he has untreated mental issues" - as an observation. I don’t have to involve myself or have any impact on whatever his medical condition or treatment is/sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:43 PM
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The difference between us is that you’re letting the people who claim they are for something good yet do bad, change the meaning of the good. To not get too deep into Christianity, let’s just say for the sake of argument that literally the only thing it teaches is "love each others like I loved you!" - if a person follows that, then I’d call them a Christian. If a person said they followed that yet went around murdering people every day, I wouldn’t agree with their notion of being a Christian. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:06 PM
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I’m a male feminist because using any dictionary, feminism is about equality between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:27 PM
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False equivalence. To make it more rational, your claim should be: "Women have no right to get upset if their man is posting pics on social media, going to clubs/bars, not dressing modesty in public.." (if of course we assume the woman in question is also doing all those things).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:04 PM
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No. Her getting attention from others can only benefit us. If simply choosing someone else if given the opportunity, then obviously she weren’t meant for me and I weren’t meant for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:13 PM
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The world you’re basing this argument on isn’t like the current world. Most women don’t just stay home 90% of the time, women work, study and can be outside and do things now. Plus it’s individual, in my family, men are the cooks. In our culture it’s more of a traditionally manly thing. My dad is a chef, whereas my mom can do good pancakes and soup. I started making my own food since before teens, but now my gf cooks for both of us. She enjoys cooking more than me, and she likes serving me and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:01 PM
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It all boils down to insecure men. Like so many other things. They’ll try their best to talk around it, but that’s it. Same reason why men dislike women with high body counts. These dudes just can’t stop themselves from fantasizing and thinking about other men’s sexual experiences with THEIR girl for "some" (hint hint) reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:10 PM
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To each their own, I know I wouldn’t want to hang out with a girl like that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:00 PM
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Below the national average which is 180cm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:59 PM
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Who are you to claim it wouldn’t satisfy you? I have an extensive past, lots of casual relationships and a few very long committed relationships (longest 7 years). Today I’m in a 1+ year long relationship with someone I love so much she made me realize I’ve never really been in love before. The world could go explode and having her by my side nothing would worry me. There isn’t a drug strong enough to get close to the feeling I get just thinking about her. I finally understand what butterflies i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:12 PM
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Well yea, that goes without saying. Usually people want to be with people who give them something or make them feel some kind of way. Friends, partners, colleagues etc. It wouldn’t be strange if someone wouldn’t exactly enjoy hanging out with someone that gives zero social or emotional stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:51 PM
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Nobody is forcing you to do anything. The irony is when you aren’t getting something you want - you don’t do anything to change that - yet still complain. It’s like if I’d be pissed I wasn’t getting a job as an aerospace engineer but also I don’t know anything about area, I have no qualifications and I don’t want to learn either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:48 PM
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Well obviously. That goes for any type of relationship probably, romantic or not. I’m saying, it doesn’t have to have anything to do with material things. I’ve never had a good job, mostly been broke, and always got attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:34 PM
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Yea I’m saying, if it’s genuinely your experience that 100% of attractive and cool women only seek materialistic things (considering it’s the opposite of my experience), perhaps it’s a you thing, and not a people thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:16 PM
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Lmao that’s crazy. What if you specifically are struggling to provide something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:09 PM
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Has certainly not been true in my experience, so be more specific in how large percentage of women you believe are like this? Like what kinds of women are you going for?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:01 PM
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Why would you even want someone that wouldn’t want you unless you had your status/job/money?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:55 PM
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Lots of men say "women just need to exist and they’ll have a never ending line of men after them", so why would they ever need to? I have a high body count, and 85% of the time, it’s been girls approaching me or showing interest first. Lots of men will judge whatever the girl does: she shows clear interest = she’s easy. She never ever makes the first move = she’s spoiled/lazy/selfish. Just be cool, genuinely, not as a mechanism to attract people but because it’s who you actually are inside. Like…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:40 PM
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Well according to lots of men women just need to exist and they’ll have a never ending supply of options, so why would they need to?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:14 AM
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A confident smooth talker attracts everyone way more, women, men, bosses, colleagues, business partners, teachers, police, friends, family of friends, strangers, potential buyers etc etc You’re framing it as if a socially attractive person being more attractive is somehow mind boggling or irrational attraction. Being physically attractive is also a human advantage socially. We are all human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:07 PM
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I don’t particularly care about what my ideal girl dressed like, that said, my gf coincidentally dresses similar to me just more female like. She has a nose ring plus whatever the piercing that sits between your eyes is called, double nipple piercings, lots of tattoos, long thick black natural hair with bangs somewhat covering her dark eyes. Her fashion sense can be capsulized into a short jean skirt, black wrinkly windbreaker, cowboy boots. I have an eyebrow piercing plus two dermal on my cheek…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:10 AM
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I’m not implying it’s because I’m a feminist, I’m saying it’s because of how I am as a person - and because of how I am as a person, being a feminist is logical. You can speak for yourself when you’re talking about playing roles etc. I’ve had most of the exact same principles and beliefs I have today ever since puberty. I don’t switch up because I have nothing to switch up to, I’m 100% comfortable and confident in who I am. There exists two stereotypical men: A: hyper masculine, physically stron…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:49 PM
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I don’t think it has to become cakeism. Due to my upbringing I quickly became very masculine and stoic, but with time and experience I just made sure to remove any and all toxic parts. Those two can absolutely exist simultaneously. And not to suck my own tits or anything, but being this combination is like being a unicorn in the eyes of women. I’m just myself and it’s fully automatic. My body count is very high and 90% of all those experiences has been the woman approaching me and showing intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:18 AM
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I can’t speak to the generalities, but I’m a male feminist albeit very masculine, and I’ve gotten continuous female attention since early teens
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:11 AM
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Using your fish metaphor, then you also agree that women can’t ask men either right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:59 PM
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The general thing is being a noble and honest person towards everyone. But I’d probably say more the music I make followed by the art. Not sure I’d say it’s so much about self love necessarily, but it’s what gives me a larger than life sense of purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:16 PM
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So clarify it coherently. What should be debated?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:26 PM
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Well what’s your point then literally? I’m interested in knowing. Is it one of the two examples I made in my last comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:06 PM
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I’m not saying whether I enjoy it or not, I’m just saying it’s pointless as a debate. What’s there to be debated? Obviously it can’t be about the literal claim that "men love and respect pick-me’s" because I’m a man and I don’t. So perhaps then it’s a claim that "most men..”, but then again, so far, that’s an unfounded claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:27 PM
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Hence what’s the point of the post 😂x2
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:14 PM
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It would be helpful if you’d define what a pick-me girl is exactly (but without that) The sort of guy that would prefer a pick-me is probably not the kind of guy a non pick-me girl would want. I’m a man, but I don’t need a pick-me girl. Some might assume it to be convenient, but having experienced it, it’s really not. It’s more akin to being in a relationship with AI. If I want to spend the rest of my life with my partner, I’d want them to be the most interesting person I know, and if that sound…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:38 PM
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"Same kind of aid, empathy and sympathy", give examples. How are women forcing men to work harder? A man can choose to do whatever he wants. It’s not just women’s job to fight back against women getting harassed. It’s more so the harassers job plus society, law and culture. Men date based on those kinds of preferences everyday. You could argue some preferences are worth pushing back against, but again, at the end of the day the individual is free to choose. I don’t think women as a whole would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:06 PM
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What kind of aid, empathy and sympathy should they give/have for men? Why would women work harder to earn more in regards of dating? Men usually don’t care that much about it anyways. How would they work harder to not get harassed lol? Who cares about men’s eyes changing? The bar for who men find attractive is non existent almost. Studies also show attractive people get treated better by everyone, men, women, gay, straight and everything in between. Confidence, handsomeness and charisma could al…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:34 PM
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I’m confused about what more power and privilege should be given to men? Just granting you those numbers ("most women rank 80% of men below average"), then obviously it’s men’s job to try to become more attractive. You aren’t going to change how women’s eyes work, so it’s literally the only solution. Women generally find me attractive, and I’ve always worked really hard to be as attractive as I can (consciously or subconsciously). I’ve always worked out, always had an alright diet, drink 3L per …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:54 AM
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If the things were reasonable yes. Just look at the things we’ve listed: Be attractive - this is fine, but it’s also fair if the guy is equally attractive himself. Plus, attractive is pretty subjective and it’s more about being attracted to someone, which you probably already are if you’re romantically interested in them. Be young - this could be fine to a point. Sure if the guy is young too, then fair. But also how long does a guy intend on having this criteria? Forever? Just pick a young girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:52 PM
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You’re missing the point which is, if this is what a big percent of men say (plus throw in "not be a pain" in there as well) which is fewer things than you can count on one hand - then why would women think about providing way more things than that? It’s self inflicted by men which is what I’m saying essentially
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:30 PM
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Dudes will say this - while simultaneously say "women just need to be attractive and/or young"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:41 PM
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With the body count example, I’ve dated and had casual relationships with girls who vary from completely inexperienced - high body counts, and I’ve never seen a negative correlation in either direction. I think that’s why this is seen as an insecurity thing, because it’s less about actual differences and more so about the guy comparing himself to people of the past. It’s ironic because I’ve never fantasized about other guys my partner has been with, there’s literally no reason to do so. Why? Bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:05 PM
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Right, so let’s say then that all the examples I gave are true things you could criticize. Would you agree those are bad things?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:45 PM
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Cool I disagree. Some of the examples I’ve given you are things I’d criticize and that I think are commonly seen within traditional masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:59 PM
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That’s ok. It’s less so about super specific examples and more of a general consensus of traditional masculinity as a whole. So do you think there’s any merit to the claim of toxic masculinity? Or is traditional masculinity as we know it perfect?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:33 PM
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I’m assuming you’d already know, also you could google. But general cultural things like: being dismissive about men’s feelings, lack of empathy, the one shoe fits all kind of idea about what it means to be a real man, the urge to keep any traditional norms and gender roles a certain way, choosing anger or passive aggression over intelligence and unbiased conversation, sexual entitlement, control etc
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 03:07 PM
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I’m talking about the things one would generally refer to when talking about the topic of "toxic masculinity".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:52 PM
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"A man describes a dating struggle :loneliness, manipulation, financial exploitation, rejection. And within the first few responses, someone brings up rape." This conversation is also unproductive. It can’t lead to anything. It’s nothing. It’s too vague and specific at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:50 PM
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My style is and always has been - be super masculine just without all the toxic parts. Boom easy and everyone wins
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:37 PM
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Well already agreed, yes harder for some, easier for others etc. What I’m saying is that most don’t bother to try. They either think they try, or they don’t try correctly, or they don’t care about it. If I ask again, what’s a negative personality trait you think is positive for a person to carry around (rhetorically ofc)… A lot of my girlfriends who complain about their bfs and why they leave them is because similar things like this. The guy is either too jealous, controlling, insecure, boring, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:16 PM
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Those people are in the minority, and it’s normal human conversation behavior to speak in generalities sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:58 AM
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I’d say it would be easy for some people, middle for others, and very hard - next to impossible and sometimes probably impossible for some. The more important point is that there’s a lot of people who don’t even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:15 AM
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Following your metaphor, in chess the more you actually practice the less bad moves you make. Same thing when it comes to a person and growing up aka experiencing life. Time goes on, you polish yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:47 AM
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Yes and no. Depends on how you define them. Like try giving me the shortest, most important 1-2 worded tips when it comes to dating, and you’ll see how they’re most likely included in my description
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:45 AM
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It’s simple, be chill and leave people with a positive feeling afterwards and people are going to wanna hang out with you again. And if you really think about it, there’s really no need for a single negative trait in a person. What’s there to be gained from having any? Analyze what you can calibrate to remove entitled/immature/toxic/pessimistic/draining/insecure (basically just negative) traits to become a better person - work on them - remove them. Not only will dating be easy af, but so will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:49 AM
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Go figure, but I was literally saying literally figuratively
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:36 PM
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Yea well I was the opposite when it comes to treating girl peers. Of course teasing and all that but always taking others people feelings into consideration. I had two older sisters who were very keen on all things misogynistic and bad. My semi present and hyper masculine dad was only old school romantic but with mostly good traits, I applied after him only removing all negative (toxic masculine) traits. I think that also shocked/shocks people. They expect something, and I provide something diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:36 PM
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True and logical points. Easily and efficiently explained
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:28 PM
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I thought age gap literally meant age gap, but that’s fair ig
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:16 PM
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Ahh. What’s the general difference when people talk about it then? 10-15+ years?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:31 AM
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"Play nurse”? How exactly old are you thinking lmao, I’m in a age gap relationship my gf 23 I’m 30
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:26 AM
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The younger you are the more likely inexperienced and unwise you are. I started dating at 14, obviously broke, much shorter than average, but had a "bad boy" reputation although I’ve never been a cheater. Had girls come for me all the time. Regardless of my reputation, I was still a nice person that treated others equally and with respect. But I suppose being a clear deviation from what’s expected is thrilling to some young minds. I didn’t seek attention but I always got it because I was either …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:58 AM
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"I want a woman to marry and impregnate twice at least" lmfao. Perhaps start there. You talk about people like cattle
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:28 PM
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Not really. It’s not very symmetrical but it’s unique perhaps. But I’ve always more or less been in shape. I’ve always had a unique style and stick to it (includes bunch of piercings, very long hair, goatee, lots of tattoos I designed and tatted on myself). And as a person I’ve always been good at reading others, I don’t think I have any negative personality traits (not saying it’s impossible but neither me nor others have detected any), people think I’m funny/charming/witty, and I make people f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:31 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:08 PM
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I’m below the national average. I lost my virginity at 14, and I’ve had women approach me regularly continuously since then. My n count is higher than most people in this sub, yet I’ve myself approached maybe 10% of those I’ve been with, rest has been them making the first move. Oh and I am and always been broke af. How is this possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:01 PM
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Stretching doesn’t make you taller. Hormones for just being on the genetically shorter side (within the normal baseline) is an insane idea. Healthy diet is already promoted in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:41 AM
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Focus on their height? Tf does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:28 AM
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Well if you want to compare them, Islam is by far the worst in modern society
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:21 PM
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I think the more normal approach is: you value whatever advice is helpful. Wether it comes from a parent, partner, random senior citizen in the park, Chief Keef song from 2011, South Park episode, MySpace quote keyed into the wall of the elevator in your apartment complex, Quora… haha no jk but like Reddit, something some fake samurai said billions of years ago because I’m watching AI generated diarrhea yt video for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:15 AM
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I think why they’d use autism as an insult is because wether a girl wants you to be dominant or not is something you should be able to easily read through normal things like conversation, body language, subliminal messages etc. You want to be natural with it, not as if you’re 1:1 following a already set code. That feels more "autistic". To the point about lots of girls fantasizing about dominance, why is that strange or not in accordance to feminist/progressive ideas? Girls are the more physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:26 PM
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How many percent of women orgasm in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:54 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:50 PM
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I agree with your overall point that these types of guys should think it’s simping. Personally though, I’d gladly do it for my partner. Just as a surface level, old traditionally romantic type of way. But being a modern girl, just like you said, she has never once asked me for anything materialistic, and never expects anything. And on the flip side, if she won the lottery and became a billionaire and wanted to provide for me, I’d take that too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 01:45 PM
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Let’s say that’s true, why does it matter if the girl just wants him for his body too? It lines up with all my previous points.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 01:40 PM
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It’s like saying "most men won’t like it if you have a high body count" = so ignore those men if you do have a high body count. Problem solved. So let’s assume then for the sake of argument, that what you’re saying is true: if the girl just wants to fuck - no problem. If the girl wants a serious relationship - try going for guys who aren’t like this. A lot of people give the advice to hold off on sex to avoid this, but I’d argue, why would you even want such a guy in the first place? Go for conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 01:33 PM
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They do. But you can correct me and explain how they don’t instead. Except I gave you three outcomes not one. I said "easier to fix - harder to fix - next to impossible". Maybe you can use those passive aggressive hypothetical glasses yourself there? It doesn’t really matter if you think it’s justified in that analogy because the more important point is what I said about what makes you more content in the long run. Cheaters and sore losers are always going to exist, it doesn’t affect me personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:49 PM
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"You can’t" and "often doesn’t even work" are contradictory statements because you’re implying it does work sometimes. And that’s me even granting you those numbers. Truth is humans do this all the time starting from a very young age. Are you the same kind of person you were 5, 10, 15 years ago? I take it no. We have brains, we use them. Hopefully for the good, not the bad. Some things are harder to fix, some are easier, some probably are next to impossible yes. Your logic reeks of immaturity an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:29 PM
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Of course you can change personality in terms of getting rid of negative traits. I’m not talking about doing it at a surface level just to appear different, that is manipulation like you said and personally I think that’s immoral. I’m talking about analyzing why you don’t attract people - have a genuine urge to become a better person - change. With the height and baldness, most people in relationships are of average height and of average hair genetics. Not gonna respond to the rest of your overe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:09 PM
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Well if women "can get men by simply existing" and have "soooo many options", then why wouldn’t they be super picky? What are you proposing here? Whats the end solution? Force women to go for men they don’t want? Tell them that they’re too picky so much that they eventually become less picky? It makes more sense for men to instead step up. Increase looks and increase personality just for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:12 PM
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That statement is too vague. I’m straight, my friends are straight, and neither me nor majority of them ever have issues finding matches (online or irl). And having such a wide range of friends, it’s a cliche but the most relevant trait by far is confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:03 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:04 PM
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Should be simple enough right.. Yet I’m this way and feel like a unicorn or rare Pokémon amongst modern men, with past experiences and direct feedback to prove as much
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:56 PM
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Just be masculine but without all the toxic parts. Then the girl gets the best of both worlds. She won’t either just get the: stereotypical hyper masculine alpha male that unfortunately is emotionally and intellectually regarded. Nor the: stereotypical hyper empathetic soy boy that unfortunately severely lacks masculine energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:35 PM
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Sure the internet certainly impacts the culture (we can see that the younger generations tend to be less social etc). But there’s also another aspect which is, historically because of how societies looked, a man basically only needed to provide income and/or safety to be seen as a suitable mate. Whereas now, society is more safe and women have their own income. Which means (especially if you subscribe to the idea that "women a never ending flow of options to choose from") - modern men have to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:18 PM
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Thinking that sucking dick is sexist is sexist And this part "It's very hard to imagine blowjobs as something not degrading and more sensual" sounds very strange and extremely untrue to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:40 PM
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There’s a reason why these dudes are "the ex"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:55 AM
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I don’t think I’ve ever acted in a way or tried to appear in a way to "be attractive to the opposite gender" (or well not since being a teen anyways). I attract those who get attracted by how I talk, look, behave etc. Like a unintentional self sufficient filtering system for my and the other’s benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:51 PM
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Sounds like a good (only?) solution to the sexless dudes out there. Then we won’t have to hear them complain all the time:>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:16 PM
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I’ve been with what people like to say is "a lot of people" and 95% of those times, the girl has approached me first. I also live in a more progressive society where girls don’t get slutshamed for approaching or wanting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:55 PM
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“I would never date a fat woman, single mothers, women with high body counts, women who wear a lot of makeup, women who have plastic surgery, women who are feminists, or women over 30 - they’re unattractive and have less value.” I think most men by far who say this aren’t really type of men who get girls anyways. They say these things online to front some fake authority, either to offend people or "the culture".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:12 PM
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I didn’t miss it, I disagree with it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:21 AM
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It’s just a wide net preference. They find that most bi guys are a certain way which they don’t prefer. Like an efficient filtering out system. But I promise you if these girls met their dream partner but who also was Bi, they’d throw that preference out the window. It’s not being Bi that’s the issue - it’s just the stereotypical baggage that comes with it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:02 AM
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Where does "feminism blame man for their own problems"? How is it projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:47 AM
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What’s the hypocrisy? What are the "facts"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:24 PM
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For a lot of dudes here, they do really struggle irl, and since they rarely want to do the actual work (physical and/or psychological) and instead prefer putting blame outwards "it’s women fault, it’s Chads fault, it’s society’s fault, it’s feminisms fault.." - they come here. Because here they can at least get their irrational, immature and insecure views somewhat validated by other dudes in their position
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:37 PM
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So how come I’ve been broke 99% of my life, never provided anything for anyone, yet started having sex and dating at 14 to current day?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:46 PM
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Clarify your point here, what exactly is the issue? You’re talking in lots of ambiguity and hyper specifics that don’t represent people as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:41 PM
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Then what’s the feeling behind having issues with it? What else other than insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:37 PM
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Thing is, men who want virgins are insecure. It’s not objectively bad to not be a virgin. Therefore, in order to not support such insecurity based views that range from neutrally harmful to - harmful, it’s justified to lie about it. Personally I’d even argue everyone should lie about it because I’d want the future to have less of these views, but that’s more subjective and my preference
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:10 PM
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Well I don’t do that, so how is that relevant to me? Maybe we just talked past each other and that’s fine
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:17 PM
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I’ve already responded about that group - who cares? Let them live a lie, same thing with the inverse men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:04 PM
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I’ve repeatedly asked why it’s invalid for the women if it’s more successful for them, you haven’t answered
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:47 PM
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Whereas the dudes who complain online make it sound like they’ll get zero women, none, not 1
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:00 PM
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And again, the issue with your opinion here is that, that overweight woman WILL still have dudes to choose from, the inverse man - not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:01 PM
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And my question is, how do they foster delusional women? And who are these delusional woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:44 PM
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Not sure what you’re even trying to say anymore. Again, why shouldn’t women aim higher? Because in a general sense they do seem to do so way more successfully. And in those cases where the woman gets no success and is just delusional, who cares? She’s just wasting her own time regardless. Same thing with the men who aim above - get no success - then spend their time online talking with other men about how horrible women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:18 PM
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Why should she? If the odds don’t negatively affect her the same way as it does for a man doing it, what’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:52 PM
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What is the hypocrisy you’re alluding to? Specify what you mean by those three examples
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:29 PM
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Yea sure. But more importantly, having a attractive personality is far superior than just looks. Yet lots of dudes don’t care about investing in themselves. Or they might not want to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:12 PM
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Become as attractive as you can. Also I see lots of dudes here who refuse to date across the board. They might be a 2-3/10 looks and/or personality wise, still they aim much higher then cry because the odds are against them. Aim across, or even lower to further increase the odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:58 PM
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I’d say it’s the opposite, it’s non existent Hence 0% ego
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 06:50 PM
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We’re using ego in different ways. I’m saying I don’t have a ego anyone can damage or emotionally manipulate, that’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 05:23 PM
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As a man, I prefer paying. I don’t see why that’s bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:18 PM
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Yea I see that quite a lot. Maybe the bar has been so low, people assume just being a nice person is enough, and then they often miss the very foundation for a romantic connection which involves flirting like you said, or passion or sexual energy for example. For people without enough experience I can imagine it can be hard separating what’s hot and sexy from what’s toxic and off putting
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:05 AM
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If that’s what you take from that, it’s on you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:46 PM
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This is something that a lot of people (men) miss too. Just to illustrate I’ll use the concept of ranking peoples appearances from 1-10. It’s going to be very stereotype-driven and vein sounding, but I want to reach a final point. So I’m probably myself slightly above average just looks wise. I’ve always worked hard to "maximize my looks" either subconsciously or consciously. So perhaps I’d land on a 6/10 let’s just say. Now we also know that being attracted to people’s personalities or talents …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:26 PM
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I’m obviously talking about in the context of romantic relationships lol. You’d want people to enjoy hanging out with you wether that’s a friend or a romantic partner
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:39 PM
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I started dating at 14 and have essentially never been rejected. The common feedback I’ve gotten from women to why they like to hang out with me is "because I’m so not like the other men". That’s not me trying to be a pick me or putting others down, just giving literal direct feedback. I think the truth is quite simple: be a person people enjoy hanging out with, and odds are they’ll want to continue to do so. I’m a very calm person with 0% ego and I’ve always been just as comfortable alone. I ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:54 PM
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Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:41 PM
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I’ve never had issues dating and never been rejected and I’m below the national average height, curious huh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:27 PM
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Well yea, but I’m talking about when they also claim they want women still
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:15 PM
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The "only going for the 20%" is a myth that takes a few seconds to debunk. But even pretending it was true, or perhaps end up being true, then rationally the left out man’s goal should be to work harder to elevate himself, because what good will it serve to just cry about it online forever? Course you’re not going to force women to lower their bars so
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:04 PM
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Really? I’d say that’s probably quite the assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:43 PM
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Right! It’s like any other board game that’s full of fantastical terms, stats, linear progression ideas, hero versus villian story etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:41 PM
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Just to expand on this. So you’re saying it comes down to the ability and willingness to hang out with girls when growing up, that then forms certain personality traits that benefit you (like when it comes to dating) from there and onwards? Something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:37 PM
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Most of the red pill / conservative / manosphere / incel fanbase, are men that are angry / jealous at other men’s success with women in comparison to them. Hence terms like Chad / Stacy etc. Think about it, it’s like DnD for evil nerds ( as opposed to the more wholesome nerds that would play DnD I guess). It’s clear as day really. Whether it’s a fan or one of the influencers in that space, 99% of the time they reek of insecurity. Loners in school that started hating the world and feeling like it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:30 PM
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Examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:21 PM
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Every self proclaimed "nice guy/good guy" I’ve talked to has had a whole list of negative traits
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:19 PM
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Interesting take. Drugs too huh😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:28 PM
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Thinking I’m lying is on you. For the sake of the argument though, pretend I’m speaking the truth, then what’s your response?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:41 AM
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Well no, and neither have the 100+ women I’ve been with. Not a single one, isn’t that quite the coincidence
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:24 AM
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29
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:19 AM
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Below the national average
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:18 AM
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How come I’ve had continuous romantic relationships since 14 and I’ve always been broke?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:08 AM
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Obviously true post. And obviously a whole bunch of highly dishonest and unattractive men out there (maybe overrepresented online but not necessarily even). And sadly, they usually just double down instead of becoming better. I still feel that it keeps tying itself back to slut shaming (stemming from abrahamic religions). It wouldn’t shock me if it’s less about "I’m angry because she isn’t with me" but instead more "I’m angry because she’s with someone else"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:59 AM
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Of course it’s mean, it’s slut shaming. To shame others that aren’t doing anything bad in order to make them feel bad is the is being mean by definition you fucking simpleton haha
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:32 PM
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It’s what me and my gf feel for each other, other than that idk
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:40 AM
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Well obviously they’d lie about that, as they should! Clearly so many men are straight up children about this topic. Serves them right in my book. So lie more women! Tell these losers "they’re the first one’s, and they have the biggest dicks you’ve ever seen" lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:45 AM
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Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:03 PM
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Well dumb and smart are opposites, like and love are of the same category more like. If you love someone, you probably like them. If you treat someone as if you love them, that probably includes treating them as if you like them as well. If you don’t think my first part answers the question, the the second part does. I think it is obvious. OP probably asks because according to red pillers it isn’t obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:42 PM
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I just did. Reread my comment but imagine I said love instead of like then🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:46 PM
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Obviously I’m talking about love, I’m using them interchangeably
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:09 PM
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Makes sense yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:40 AM
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The prescience is the first sign, but like I said, you should be able to easily tell if your fucking partner doesn’t like you.. we’re talking normal people at the end of the day not some highly trained manipulative double agent Another comment proposed that perhaps a lot of these red pillers are autistic, which would make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:28 AM
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I’m not underestimating women, if anything I’m overestimating men. Firstly, if you’re rich, why even disclose it? Secondly, I’ve seen these dudes too, and if they can’t figure it out when the woman is miles ahead their league looks wise, it’s on them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:18 AM
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I’m not sure what the relevance is but more importantly I don’t know how the marriage system or culture works in the states so idk. Me and my gf are getting married because it’ll become easier for her to move in with me, but we also think it’s romantically charming in a symbolic way. We’re both atheists and in agreement that we want to be together forever. So overall marriage was never a topic in that sense. It became a topic because of how immigration laws works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:59 AM
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In none of the relationships I’ve ever been with has this been a wonder of mine. The proof is A: they are in a relationship with you, and B: you can very easily tell if people don’t like you. But I do see this insecurity pretty often from red pillers and men alike. It just seems more like another fairytale thing from that camp. And reading these replies "she can only decline sex 10% of the time" etc, it makes sense, these dudes are absolute bone heads. No wonder they don’t feel like adequate eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:37 PM
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You’re right, it’s dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:51 AM
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The question is what the "baggage" in that entails. In my view it’s nothing expect for a man’s insecurities regarding female sexuality that becomes set "baggage". Well it’s not "inherent" because I’m a man and I never felt like my partner needs to "only ever had eyes for me", I think that’s a ridiculous statement. Ridiculous because it’s both illogical seeing how when you meet someone, they’ve already lived for some time before you (just like you) so if they function normally psychologically and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:45 PM
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Although those are indeed different things, because of how things evolve in society/growing up - you can generally expect a correlation there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:08 PM
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Also the irony when men want a woman with high sex drive yet she can’t have slept around before them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:00 PM
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That’s hard. Of course in the most fundamental sense we’re the most responsible for ourselves in the end. But that’s a part of being a complex human, deciding (sometimes just hoping) what characters get to play in our theatre, and if we’re acting in it or even directing it, sometimes we can only be the audience as well. Things often look clearer in retrospect, the grass often also seems greener on the other side. But we’re not immortal nor indestructible. Thanks for the perspective though, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:01 PM
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I’m not sure, maybe that would be sort of like the inverse in some sense. But also I wouldn’t fault any man who don’t do these things, I do them because I want to and I was raised to, if I have a son someday I’ll teach him the same and so on. It’s my preference after all. I can more easily define it through a male lens being a man. Not sure what it would feel like being a woman. For instance my gf is very sensitive and struggles with anxiety, and I take good care of her. Whether that’s letting h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:25 PM
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I see that as a part of being the male sex of the species. We are so much stronger it’s only fair biologically. That said, this is my preference. I’d also (and I have many times) protected weaker men, children or animals. But what’s a lot more common are simple manners-related things like, I always ask if older neighbors need help carrying groceries, I ask old strangers if they need help with stairs or carrying things, I always give up my seat in public transport for women and elders, I hold doo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:23 PM
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Holy dodge
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:00 PM
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Explain how instead of making claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:35 PM
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Not all traditional gender roles are bad. I follow those which I think are valuable. Again, where does disposable, expendable and replaceable come in? You’re just throwing in random shit without explaining or expanding on why.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:21 PM
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Like I said, under the pretense that the man is physically able. That’s called being honorable. Also what do you mean "while being a simp" lmao? Just threw that in there for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:09 PM
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None of the women I’ve been in relationships have ever cared about my income or living situation (however bad it has been in the past). I’ve always protected, that’s automatic just like protecting siblings, a family pet, a child.. and though I can provide for my girl right now, we make our own money independently. But let’s say I won 10 million, I’d see that as our money. So don’t let "gold diggers" or conservative stay at home moms muddy the water. And regarding protecting, that should be inbui…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:10 PM
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Although those percentages are wildly wrong. Just granting that premise, it’s still up to men then to step up. Let’s say that 90% of all people only buy Ferrari level cars, regardless if someone thinks that’s a too high of a standard, why would they keep make other worse cars only for them to never get bought? The car makers aren’t going to somehow force the 90% to ignore their standards. They’ll instead try to match the demand from that end, not the other way around. If we also grant that "all …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:40 PM
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Speed to sex is indicative of sexual attraction, so you’re saying couples that wait until marriage for sex aren’t really attracted to each other? I was giving you a few examples, that’s it. Doesn’t mean all of them fit all people. Ah yes the classic "slut only for me and no one before me" lmao… Good luck bro, I’m sure you’ll find your match
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:58 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:48 PM
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Your whole response confuses me because it’s a whole word salad. It comes down to you feeling like you’re being treated unfairly, which so far you haven’t based on anything. Which only makes it sound like the two things I’ve already mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:48 PM
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Well no, it’s irrelevant because the topic has nothing to do with being attracted to ones partner or not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:23 PM
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No. But it’s a irrelevant question
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:47 PM
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People who start doing it faster - can notice a pattern where it attracts certain types that might be less committed whereas they look for commitment - so as intelligent beings we use pattern recognition to change things. A person can simply change focus. They might’ve enjoyed more casual sex in the past whereas now they look for long term. A person can have done more sexually "adventurous" things in the past simply because of an abusive partner when they wouldn’t have otherwise. It’s super comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:46 PM
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There is nothing to rebuttal that’s the thing. The psychology is insecurity. A person has a feeling based on insecurity then retroactively tries finding ways to give alternative explanations. Otherwise, what’s the logical explanations for thinking women shouldn’t sleep around? What will you counter with? A lock & key metaphor? Some stats? If so please do, I’ve read all the related data so that’s an easy one for me. I’m not against the people who are honest and say it just makes them insecure, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 09:57 AM
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Because the guy is insecure and/or entitled. Nothing less, nothing more. That’s why no other explanations they can provide make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:50 AM
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Truths men online tend to forget: 1: Most dudes in relationships are avarage 2: You don’t have to choose between being a hyper masculine alpha guy with zero empathy or intelligence & a compassionate and intelligent soyboy that isn’t masculine enough. You can be both. BE masculine just remove ALL the toxic masculinity parts. Take the best uses of both stereotypical men. That way the woman gets the absolute best of both worlds, and you’re miles above average and even above the top tier. But nooooo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:32 PM
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Just reads as another "I dislike women but how can I phrase it differently" post. The vast majority of women wouldn’t date old men. Men who think women get their value from youth and looks are probably never going to be in a committed, long term relationship. Otherwise what’s the solution? Everyone gets older, so following your logic, you could find your dream woman but when she’s over a certain age you’d leave anyways just to start the cycle over. Yes my gf is the hottest person I’ve ever seen,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:38 AM
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Yes when in my first serious relationship (though I was 100% loyal - I was looking at girls online and outside). Being in a new relationship now with who I feel is the love of my life, no other girl catches my eye no matter how "objectively attractive". And could I live a hundred more lives I’d choose her all hundred times if she’d let me. And when other girls flirt with me it feels like it’s my sister or best friend flirting with me. Needless to say this is the first time ever I’ve actually fel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:53 PM
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Your response makes it sound like you’re either justifying the post’s implicit proposition, and if you’re not, then it’s just irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:03 PM
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Well I haven’t said that, and I’m with my dream girl atm, so obviously I wouldn’t know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:37 AM
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Ok? That has never been an issue for me so
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:20 AM
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You really can’t see how you’re playing directly in her favor? Fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:19 AM
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Lots of men are simply over emotional and/or struggle with hard logic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:03 AM
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Lmao bro.. I’m trying to explain it simply for you. If you want ultra specific then ask specific questions you think are relevant. It’s like if you want to know about chess and ask me, obviously I’d give you a very basic, general, overall type of explanation rather than some super specific, information heavy, 1:1 explanation of a specific tactic Not to mention my last comment does have specifics. In both parts. You’re just ignoring it and being passive aggressive instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:56 PM
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I can’t speak for women, but some women have told me it has to do about the positive thing. And I would agree with that personally too. People I hang out with regularly never make me feel anything other than positive. Hence I continue to choose to hang out with them. No stress, no drama, no unproductive conflicts, no passive aggressiveness, no jealousy, no retro active jealousy, no controlling behavior, no double standards, no pressure, no unproductive judgment, no abuse, no emotional manipulati…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:27 PM
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I don’t think I’ve said men need to be like me. People can be how they want. I don’t think I’ve clearly said I’m giving advice either. I could give advice, but I’d need specific context and information to what I’m giving advice to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:07 PM
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I wasn’t being specific intentionally. Hence I said earlier that we could probably go through an endless amount of examples. I’ll try summarizing for you. There are two parts to this conversation. One is about why I suspect men seem to be struggling dating (which is something we hear online constantly - I’m working from the assumption that it’s true - maybe it isn’t true though and people online aren’t representing reality correctly), where I think "women have achieved more and excelled in socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:05 PM
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Well if you specifically want my advice I’d give different answers. I started responding to this post using sentiments I’ve gotten from women, but then I’ve transitioned to try explaining or theorizing about why it’s always been easy for me. I don’t really try to do anything in particular, I just exist and people become attracted sometimes, maybe how I am/core interests fuels that loop. In which case I’m probably lucky because I didn’t choose it. I would again refer back to the logic train I gav…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:31 PM
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You’re probably going to say it’s too ambiguous - and then I’m going to refer back to the proposal to start from the opposite end again, but let’s try. In very simple terms: Physically stimulating - body language, physique, all the way to sex in the more literal sense Emotionally stimulating - being emotionally mature, intelligent, nourishing, protective, confident Intellectually stimulating - things like being a good talker, good thinker, witty, charming, romantically mysterious, aware I’ve nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:20 PM
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I think you’re taking it too literally, or like I proposed we could have different definitions, but you haven’t explained yours so idk? But to move on to what the post is about. Using feedback and a bit of introspection, I would boil it all down to being chill. I don’t think I can put it more simply than: if you’re a chill person and your personality makes people enjoy hanging out with you - odds are they’ll want to continue hang out with you. It probably helped me greatly that I grew up in a ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:45 PM
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It’s intentionally broad correct, since we could go over an endless amounts of examples. So I think in terms of production for both, that would be starting in the wrong end. Instead give me your understanding of them (obviously in the context of attracting others romantically), just any loose examples to start at a point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:37 PM
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I wasn’t asking anything specifically that’s right, but you were giving conversation stoppers, so if you don’t wanna converse just say that. Or don’t respond at all. I’ve realized that however I describe myself people will assume I’m lying or bragging, but that outside of my control, I’m giving you truth, it’s you’re choice to believe me or not. Either you stick to "comes across as lying to me hence it’s a lie" and this conversation is over, or for the sake of hearing my arguments you just assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:34 PM
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Become physically, emotionally and intellectually stimulating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:11 PM
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That’s another non answer I’d say. You don’t believe me, then what? Perhaps we have different definitions of being offended. A good example is looking back at teenage years when fighting on the street is more common. A typical form of initiating a fight would be a guy saying something to another guy he doesn’t know, "what are you looking at?" "Bitch" "you’re mother is a whore" - and yes I’d fight with them because I like fighting, but not because I felt offended by the words, only because of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:07 PM
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I’ve answered that already
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:30 PM
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I do. I’d say anything that relates to the physical and attraction is included. Whether that’s how you look, how you move around, body language, touch, affection, sex, body language, facial expressions, clothes, physique etc. Now can you answer what you base the percentage on?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:21 PM
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Well I thought it fits into confidence regardless which is more all-encompassing, so I didn’t really need it there But yes, the truth is - I’ve never been offended
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:17 PM
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That’s certainly a non answer :-(<sup>.</sup><sup>)-</sup> but now you know
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:02 PM
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Lol. Well I’m sorry to say then but people usually enjoy conversing with me about any topic really. I’ve always been pretty philosophically gifted. But usually what women say is that I’m "chill/cool/fun". I never ever create drama or make others feel anything other than good. Could be because I’m not judgmental, I’ve always been super confident and I’ve never been offended
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:35 PM
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Ask them not me, I’m apparently doing well but can only guess
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:04 PM
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The question is also how much of that post hook up regret is because of societies sexist feelings about women having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:20 AM
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Blue pill is just more about not agreeing with red pill. Looks matter and don’t matter: People prioritize personality over looks when it comes to serious relationships (not a 100% about men but I would assume/hope so). Yes we can say very high looks probably help getting laid, but so does very high personality. Hard to tell which one would be more effective in terms of just getting laid. Well historically those men could just rape women, force marry them, buy them, force them etc. different time…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:58 AM
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Of course not. Like I said, who/how you are as a person is more important than money. I’ve been broke most my life (still is) and it has never been a problem in the eyes of the women I’ve had relationships with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:20 AM
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How is it weird? The physical is important in probably most romantic relationships. What do you base that percentage on?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:19 AM
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Women are more educated than men now on average. That tiny fact has a lot of impact. And to clarify the first point, women don’t need men now like they’ve needed them in the majority of human history. Hence if you remove that incentive, desires and standards change. Is it true that women have way higher standards today? Yes. Is it also true men (talking in the general sense) can do way better to meet them? Yes. Like I said before, if you’re intellectually and physically stimulating plus only pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:44 PM
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The point is, yes people were perhaps married for longer or stayed with the same person for longer in the past, but obviously that doesn’t = quality or what women would necessarily choose given better choices. Women in general have become more overall interesting people, higher ambitions, more educated, more knowledgeable, more experienced - hence it’s absolutely then assumed men should also level up. I disagree that men don’t need to step up. Women should too, all humans in fact, but we can see…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:29 PM
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I’m speaking in the general sense, and I absolutely think so. What used to be the expectation of a house wife? How long ago did it become illegal to beat your wife? How long have relationships existed? How long ago did it become illegal to rape your wife? How long have relationships existed? Also I notice this when basically talking with every man in my own life (weak evidence perhaps), when I hear them complain about women or things in their relationships it’s insane, it’s like listening to kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:09 PM
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So they need to step up then lol. Sure it used to be enough to have a job, but women are out educating men now and earning more and more on average as well. Point being, now men have to provide something other than basic economy or safety, so maybe time to become attractive humans that can intellectually and physically stimulate others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:39 PM
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Ironically, I’ve always had an easy time dating ever since I was a kid both seriously and casually, and the most common motivation I get from women when in comes to why they like me is because I’m "normal"… Now when I hear them complain about other guys, I’ve come to the conclusion that a lot of dudes out there are off putting and/or boring, and when women say normal they essentially mean a chill person. A guy who is going to basically only provide positive or neutral "energy"/emotions. Which I …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:52 PM
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I’m using loser/winner in the simple way of saying some have better success than others. But that isn’t talking about why that might be. And people can aim for any league, I’m just saying, if you’re a man that feels you don’t get any, and you just complain, then then odds are you could increase odds by aiming lower Kind and confident goes a looong way without a doubt. I would probably even value that as the strongest two traits a man could have to secure a real relationship. And I agree personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:35 PM
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It’s a self feeding loop. Unattractive men don’t get women - what do they do about it? - just complain. So you ask them, what’s the solution here? Force women to date you? And they have nothing. They will ALWAYS arrive at the final conclusion "there is no hope for me and I will die alone", to which I always ask, why are you smearing everyone with your unavoidable misery then? Not even the most sick people with the most brutal illnesses go online and do that. But a dude that is 100% convinced the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:45 AM
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You’re over dramatizing it. Are you a straight man? If so, imagine a beautiful girl manspreading while looking angry and spitting on the ground. Is she more or less attractive now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:34 PM
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Why would an adult need you to lie to them though? Even if the person is insecure, wouldn’t obvious lies be obvious therefore worse? Usually we lie to kids
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:31 PM
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You can be masculine without the toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:54 PM
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It makes sense biologically to be attracted to a masculine guy, yes. It makes sense to criticize some stereotypically masculine traits, ALSO yes I was semi raised by a completely emotionally distant father who is a sailor and super traditionally masculine, which shaped me (to better and for worse) into becoming stoic to the highest degree. I have adhd and grew up in not so great place, but the upsides is I trained and learned to fight from a young age. I’ve had past issues with putting myself in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:46 PM
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What do you mean? You just said it’s not, and I just gave you a whole reasoning to why it is. So again I’ll ask you to keep your emotions in check, and come back with a counter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:04 AM
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Lol exactly, your reasoning is "gross"… What could that possibly be other than a personal insecurity towards something? Something makes you uncomfortable, unsure, repulsed, insecure. I can only speak for myself, and I have never understood the mental obsession a man has about another hypothetical man of his partners past so I can’t relate. But I will say I’m curious about why you are so obsessed with other men like that? You wanna know how many times I think about other men in a sexual lighting?…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:35 AM
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We’re not just simply talking about biology here, but I’d agree it’s more about cultural aspects. Men have insecurities about women’s sexuality, and that’s it. If you want to make the claim now that there is a biological incentive against women having sex, then make it. Show the evidence for it. Because I can easily counter that with a lot of evidence showing historic humans being just as - if not more sexually liberated in a tribal settings. Let me flip the question around, what makes the painf…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:12 PM
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Obviously I’m saying what’s the numbers are based on, are from 30 years ago. Obviously when I’m giving the example "more sex = more probability of STDs", I’m talking about more partners. So extrapolate it. Don’t just say what can or can’t be done, do it. No need for sourness, keep your emotions in tact, it’s nothing but a discussion on an online forum. Personally I’d like to hear why you disagree. What should even out?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:34 PM
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Just fyi, I don’t know how to respond to each of your sections neatly like you’re doing so I hope you can still follow hehe. Read the introduction, it’s using a survey from 1995 = 30 years ago. These are absolutely huge in terms of change. You are on Reddit yes? Same place you’ll find hundreds of posts regarding "modern dating is done for" each day? Not to mention, women being more promiscuous 30 years ago carried way more risks and social pushback in comparison to current day. Potentially alter…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:10 PM
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Alright, so this study is littered with holes. It´s also 30 years old, which for a study regarding something as evolving as "dating" is not a good sign. I mean just look at this average as a single example "..women who begin sexual activity at age 23-24 will have, on average, 2.7 sexual partners during their lives." but I will ignore this fact in order to make this a bit more engaging. Like mentioned, the majority of these charts are useless, "women who have more sex are more likely to ever had …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:27 PM
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I have many female friends and what they tell me about their experiences in the dating market (the current standard of men out there) sound horrible. Fellow men, you’re supposed to lower her stress not INCREASE IT😭 I can’t relate because people usually like hanging out w me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:54 AM
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Yea my bad it’ll be tomorrow it’s already too late here and it’s many things I have to go through individually, let the link sit there meanwhile
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:03 PM
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Perfect. I’ll respond after work
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:30 PM
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That’s fine, I’ll just demonstrate it for you. Link the study you’re looking at
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:04 AM
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I advice you to look at them yourself. I’ve read all the related science and you’re misusing the conclusions of them like everyone else who like to refer to those
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:27 AM
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Even if that was the case, it’s not bad
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:45 AM
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Clearly you’re framing women fucking in a bad way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:44 AM
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And your friends slept with them too so what’s the issue? Sex isn’t bad. You just sound mad you don’t get any
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:45 AM
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To be clear I’m using the opposite sides perspective here to show the logical holes in it, not my own
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:15 PM
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The whole idea of most men going for women below 25 makes no sense. So let’s say a woman does lock in a family before that, then what? She’s only getting older, so following this ridiculous idea, isn’t the man just inevitably going to leave? Even pretty soon after the kids at that. Because apparently as a man "he’s attracted to women below 25", also why he got a family with her. So why the fuck would a woman sign up willingly to be a single mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:02 PM
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I just said it makes sense to me lol. It’s a "it would make sense to me because…" statement, not a "studies show…" statement. Whether it’s some biological ingrained thing or solely social conditioning doesn’t change the outcome in my case either way. I don’t know what the science says because the subject don’t interest me that much, but if I ask you: don’t you agree it would make sense for some general attraction preferences to indeed have some biological motivations behind them? Probably to inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:21 PM
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I don’t think I’d agree with that. To me it makes perfect sense biologically if generally a woman would prefer a guy she feels can/will protect her physically. The guy being physically strong and athletic, experienced with fighting, calm under pressure etc. EVEN if the risk of a situation where that is necessary is very low in today’s world, I think the biological incentive is still within us. Women being the physically "weaker" sex (sheer force output), in NATURE it’s wise to choose the stronge…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 10:06 PM
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I think she deserves the best period, and I also just happen to fill the spot of "best of both worlds" in question because of how I’m built. I’m confused by your question, what is the "best of both worlds" she is or isn’t giving me you think? I need to know what your question means first if you want me to answer it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:53 PM
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Well no but then I’m not sure what you’re asking? Are you asking if I think I deserve the best of both worlds from my girlfriend? If so, I think this dynamic is a bit different with women. Most women still have their stereotypical feminine qualities, but there isn’t any general real trade off there (like there is with masculinity). So it’s more of an automatic progression, my gf is the love of my life and my favorite person - I think she deserves the best
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:13 PM
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Do I think she deserves it? Yes I do. But it’s also who I am so I’m not really doing anything in particular other than being myself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:03 PM
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I think it’s more simple. We are still animals, we have sex based differences that we generally find hot. I think the gold package for my girl would be manly and masculine without all the classic toxic masculine stuff. That way she gets the best of both worlds. Because it’s more often you either have someone very masculine but they lack in other areas such as empathy and emotional intelligence. Or you’ll have someone more empathetic and emotionally intelligent but they’ll be too soft or passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:11 PM
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Well nothing because I wouldn’t do it to a man either, I try to not insult anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:23 PM
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Lol right.. was just about to say
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:41 PM
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Well Fuentes is a virgin and short (I think?) and you claim he probably wouldn’t be hurt by those comments as if he ever would by comments like "nazi" or anything ideology related lol. I’m not a woman, but if I wanted to insult a man effectively I’d probably also go for those things, or like small dick or something. It’s apparently effective so
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:59 AM
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Because why not aim for the stars? You can only control your own view on things, so why not try being the absolute best you can towards the person you love? And if you’re just saying "nobody deserves anything", depending on how philosophical you wanna go, we can agree that nobody technically deserves anything ever. There is no inherent concept or deserving that exists by itself. But that’s also not really saying anything. If that’s what you’re trying to say, then so what? Who cares? It doesn’t r…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:27 PM
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I might be an old school romantic but I do think my girl deserves the world. I treat her like my princess, I take care of her like my gem, and I have always and will always protect her with my mind and body. It’s what I prefer so sorry not sorry jsjs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:01 PM
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It’s talking about just what’s perceived (example using a photo), it’s not about when you actually get to know someone. What is true though, is that when you’re in love with someone, the brain will see them as MORE attractive in your eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:34 PM
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Let’s say I grant you that.. so and? How does that relate to what we’re talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:32 PM
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Yea I think that’s just fit guys liking thick girls, just like me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:39 PM
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How does the halo effect relate to my point here?😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:37 PM
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Looks are absolutely separate from personality. Just think about when you’re with a really physically hot girl, and how quickly that interest fades if she has nothing to offer personality wise. You’re more correct if we talk about teenagers but after that things change
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:04 PM
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Because looks only help to open the door, it’s the personality that decides if people wanna stay inside or not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:48 PM
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That’s insane lmao complete opposite to my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:15 PM
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Like I said, my most concentrated active years with casual hook ups was 14-20 and I was a late bloomer and always short, now even as an adult I’m below average height in my country. So how is this possible? I was a "bad boy" yes but not a douchebag since I’ve always treated people good
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:29 AM
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That’s just another incel belief. When we’re young we experience more, finding out what we like, don’t like, what lasts, what doesn’t etc. We all do that regardless of sex, as a man I’d say my most concentrated active years with different mostly casual relationships was 14-20. I’m with my dream girl now and I’m 1000% committed to her only, I don’t even see other girls anymore, it’s like looking at men, it does nothing. Yet she is the most pretty, sexy, cute and elegant being I’ve ever laid eyes …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:29 AM
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That’s why I feel so lucky being with my girl, because I’m hot and I’m committing to her for life
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 09:21 AM
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Maybe I’m disqualified to speak because I’m hypersexual but photos like that have definitely turned me on. Though nowadays being with the woman of my dreams, I can’t get turned on but anybody but her, so I can look at a photo like that and appreciate the artistic value but I don’t want to do anything with it. Pictures of my gfs pussy definitely have me drooling though, or even just closing my eyes and fantasizing about it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:08 PM
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You’re over complicating it. Boys grow up and decide weaker/softer = bad (maybe because of pretty old norms evolved from a harsher time where these stereotypical generalizations mattered more in terms of survival), hence the worst thing a boy in the eyes of the other boys eyes can be, is gay. This then carries on inside the mind and gets applied on women, so you end up with some men at some point actually evaluating what opinions they’ve might’ve had put on them from culture, but aren’t opinions…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:18 PM
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"No depth cartoon villain level takes" is actually hilarious😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:12 PM
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"I see men who are so scared of this mostly as someone who are jealous and bitter they didn't get to experience what they imagined women did, and what they feel like they are entitled to...” I don’t think it’s so much about them being jealous of the woman, but more so about having sexist views that women don’t have sex like men do, it makes them dirty, used, they lose value etc. The ironic truth is that these dudes are digging their own holes, women can "do what they want now" in terms of sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:09 AM
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Lmao you gonna make them cry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:02 AM
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This post is so out of my own experience it feels like we’re on different planets. I’m a man, I’ve always had romantic relationships ever since I was 14, and most of my life I’ve been broke (shit I still am) and I’m currently with the woman of my dreams. I’m not 6 feet either. So how can this be?;> Also your criteria’s for a PARTNER being "hot and not unbearable" is so insanely low and surface level, I can’t imagine how that could ever bring happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:27 PM
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Well ask yourself if a man that believes "women hit the wall…" is even someone you’d want in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:51 PM
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Perhaps there’s a little bit of truth to that, but although I’m probably average or slightly above, I have other things that play into my appearance, like I’ve always been fit, but my expression is definitely not a safe card. I have very long hair, some piercings, lotsss of tattoos, jewelry, painted nails etc. So for people that like that sort of look, it works well, but there are a lot of people that don’t like it, or maybe think I’m too feminine or something. Regardless though, what carries me…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:49 PM
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People are different, and I think this sub is quite skewed as well. Men here seem to generally struggle getting women so they might more largely subscribe to bad views of women as well. I can only speak for myself, and I’ve never struggled with women, been active since 14 mostly engaging in casual relationships with a couple long term relationships. And I’m with the love of my life right now going on soon a year, and whilst there’s truth to the fact love is blind, she also happens to be the funn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:46 AM
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Well, most people regardless of sex don’t like desperation, it makes us subconsciously worried and stressed the fuck out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:28 AM
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It can just be boiled down to harmless teasing (IF it’s done correctly), like you’d probably enjoy a delicious meal more if you take your time with it as opposed to gulping it down in 2 minutes. Men AND women can (and probably should generally) tease their partner, it’s romantic, passionate and following normal psychological baseline. Humans like to build up to a climax in everything, movies, books, music, stories, sex, games, sports etc. So no, it’s not as black and white as "women are cats, me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:13 AM
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I don’t see how anyone would want that though, why would someone want to be friends with someone they like/liked but it wasn’t mutual? Sounds like it would be painful for whoever got "rejected" and super annoying for whoever wasn’t interested
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:37 PM
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That’s the definition of the word, anyone can take words and apply whatever definition they want on it, but then words and definitions lose their meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:35 PM
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Of course. But the point is, generally speaking, hanging out with men and hanging out with women will result in pretty different experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:16 PM
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Well it’s so specific and depending on the thing it’s hard to make a general rule, but perhaps better at empathy, different jokes, opinions and perspectives and so on
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:12 PM
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So you’re using your own definition? Just making definitions up? Regardless, my initial points still apply to your definition
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:05 PM
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"Having sex for money"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:02 PM
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Well by payment I would include money yes. And yes, if you deem all your examples as prostitution, I think you’re using a faulty definition of the word. So which definition are you using? From which dictionary?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:44 PM
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I have a few female friends (ever since a kid), and I wish I had more. I’ve found women friends offer other unique perspectives and experiences you typically don’t get from male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:26 PM
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Prostitution implies specifically offering sex through payment, whereas all of your examples can be done without that, and even in those where sex happens, it can be done without the specific intent to only be about money-sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:24 PM
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It’s probably 40-50% roughly (at least using the definition I’d use)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:05 PM
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Search this video up on YouTube: "Love and the Autistic Man-Omar and Emma". It’s difficult without knowing how your autism affects you or how it influences your appearance, but don’t eat up all the certainty and negativity you hear online. I think a good outlook when trying to date is "what can I offer in a relationship", like try calculating it, then find what you can/should put more energy on. There is some truth to the idea that we become more attractive when we don’t necessarily try to be. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:11 PM
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Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:23 AM
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That’s fair, so are you going for autistic women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:14 AM
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Perhaps it isn’t coming off naturally for you? As someone who fortunately socially confident/aware like I can definitely tell when people are forcing it. And I can imagine it being a difficult thing to pull off for some people. Can you provide some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:40 PM
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Are you romantic? Passionate? Flirty? You’re supposed to be looking for romantic partners here not friends
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:42 PM
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This is just not true. Look at the average couple, the vast majority of men in relationships are less than 6ft.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:41 PM
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The epitome of having your hand on the stove going "ouch it hurts" but you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:57 PM
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I’ve been saying this. It’s like when a guy really wants a goth girl yet he is the most basic, unexpressive, bland, copy paste guy ever
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:43 PM
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So become a monk or something ffs, what’s complaining about it online for all your life gonna do? You’re so pessimistic and sure about being fucked forever, so logically what’s the end goal here? Wait until women get forced to date you? Never gonna happen. Wait until super realistic robots are on the market? If so, why are you still wasting your life energy complaining about something that doesn’t yield anything good back to you? Being negative and pessimistic is probably one of the most unattra…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:39 PM
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So you’re saying women don’t have sex drives even if they don’t want a serious relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:43 PM
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Maybe the issue begins with being the one who constantly peruses. I have a high body count and I mostly just entertained women who approached me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:58 PM
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It’s more so about personality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:40 AM
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It’s not that men need to be formerly promiscuous to have "value", it’s just that men who are socially, emotionally and intellectually stimulating often garner a higher body count and interact with more women overall. But if you had a guy who is like that but is actually a virgin or has slept with 2 people, pretty much zero women would have issues with that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:34 AM
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In relationship and getting married. Blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:31 PM
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I disagree. I think that’s easily answering your question through basic human psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:27 PM
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They’re probably not part of the genuinely "good men", so they’re just defending the group they themselves are included in
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:10 PM
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Because for most people, during personal struggle it’s easier to put blame outwards than inwards
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:08 PM
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As I wrote in the first paragraph🥴 Also that number is wrong, globally, around 81% of intimate partner homicide victims are women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:57 PM
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As I wrote in the first paragraph🥴 Also that number is wrong, globally, around 81% of intimate partner homicide victims are women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:56 PM
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This👆
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:15 PM
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Victim-Offender Relationship: Intimate partners are the most common killers for women, while men are significantly more likely to be killed by an acquaintance or a stranger. Rate of Homicide: Females have a higher rate of intimate partner homicide than males. Global Context: Globally, almost half of all female homicide victims are killed by intimate partners or family members, whereas the figure for men is just over 1 in 20 (less than 6%) of all male homicide victims. Overall, the data consisten…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:23 AM
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Well I’m even under the average height where I live, and I’m not and never been rich, in contrary I’ve mostly struggled with jobs. So where would I fit into your understanding of the situation? Like I said I lost my V at 14 and women have always been drawn to me. Matter of fact most people I’ve been with has been them approaching me first, in the minority of cases have I been the pursuer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:52 PM
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That’s ignoring the fact that we’re using these numbers/scale in a fantastical way. In reality it’s all a spectrum. After all, most couples would more or less land equally on this scale
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:44 PM
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Yea I don’t believe that is reality. You’d have to do something seriously wrong to be met with criminal allegations lol. Even if I grant you that the general 5 woman aims higher in men, then my suggestion is still unchanged, which is, just go lower. I can’t speak for the average man’s experience, but I started dating since 14 and it has never stopped, and a common held positive feedback I get from women is that "you’re so unlike other men". I am generally attractive physically, but people are us…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:29 PM
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Then those guys are simply going for the wrong type of women. If you’re a 5/10 in women’s eyes when it comes to how attractive they find you, then logically you should aim for other 5/10 women OR go lower to further increase the odds. Anything else would be having the odds stacked against you. That being said, confidence is generally attractive to humans period, wether it’s for romantic attraction or make friends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:59 PM
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I don’t think anyone has has issues with approaching now more a than before to any substantial extent. I’ve never gotten a bad response myself. I think the issues is men approaching women in an off putting or disrespectful manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:47 PM
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I’m not shaming anyone, I’m just laughing at guys who complain so much yet do nothing whatsoever to fix it, only complain, stay hateful and blame others all day
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:55 PM
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You just don’t know what confidence is. Confidence is steady, secure, quiet, calm, honest, fair, zero ego, light hearted, loving. Whereas you think it’s superficial and narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:10 AM
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I’m a nice guy, if that means being well mannered, treating people with respect, treating people equal, never blame my issues on others, honest, not selfish, I’m optimistic and positive, makes me way happier doing nice things for others as opposed to the opposite, I have no bad generalizing views, I’m a good listener as well as good talker and I want people to succeed. Since I lost my virginity at 14 I’ve always been romantically relevant in the opposite genders eyes. Since I’m socially charming…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:11 PM
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I gladly play for my partner because I think it’s a cute tradition thing. Though it’s not a demand from her side. I agree that real men don’t hit women, sure it I’m cornered and a knife wielding woman tries to kill me I’ll protect myself, but in terms of just unarmed altercation, never. I’ve been slapped before and didn’t respond physically because I have no ego and I wasn’t in danger. Doing porn = bad is your subjective view. Sounds like jealousy mixed with personal judgement from your side. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:31 AM
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I don’t think so. I’ve never had issues approaching people and I’ve also never been whatever asshole entails, mean, selfish, manipulative, inconsiderate etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 10:47 PM
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You can be charming and socially intelligent without being an asshole my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:00 PM
1

That’s crazy talk
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 09:00 PM
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I’ve always been romantic in any relationship even if most were casual because it’s just how I was brought up I guess, I like being flirty and charming and using the old school romantic cliches if they’re harmless. Although now I’m in what I would say my first relationship with someone I want to be with indefinitely, and now I do it and want to do it because treating her like my princess makes me feel like her prince
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:58 AM
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As someone who has painted nails, very long hair, more tattoos than I can count, handful of piercings, discreet facial hair, semi alternative fashion sense, liberal views focused around logic, always been very secure in myself, high adaptive social capacity, combination of very calm and very energetic, outwardly fearless, like to be the protective type, main occupation is music secondary arts, a little rough background, very long experience of fighting and martial arts, been "dating" since early…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:27 AM
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well yea, it’s called describing something that happens if it happens contradiction. If the claim happens, then the statement is correct another false claim. Some do get brainwashed into misogyny, some chose it willingly. But basically nobody says that by simply disagreeing on any topic some men are entitled. You can use the rejection of sex in an entitled manner. But again, most don’t think what you’re claiming some men are selfish. Again, most wouldn’t think paying for everything makes you sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:06 AM
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What’s those stats based on? What age ranges? What population? Even if we assume that’s true for the sake of argument, my solutions work and I never hear people offer them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:14 PM
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For you that is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:42 PM
1

I disagree. So which one of my opinions don’t hold then according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:06 AM
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Well depends I guess on what you count as lots but more or less. Two first relationships failed because I was too selfish and too cowardly to make hard decisions. But my own experience has no relation to my points here either way. Even if I was a virgin, or if I was a figurative pornstar, it wouldn’t change the truthfulness of what I’m saying
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:46 AM
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I’ve had some rejections (mostly in the beginning though for reasons I’ve mentioned), lots of casual things, three serious relationships, first two weren’t honest nor serious enough from my side, but for the first time I can say I truly love my current partner and hope it’ll be us forever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:29 AM
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Definitely not few and far between. Lots of lonely more unconventional women out there. Second paragraph I don’t understand what you’re saying even
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:25 AM
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Right, so aim below the board. Problem fixed. At least then you’re getting (or vastly increasing the odds of getting) what you’re seeking, love, sex, friendship etc. But screaming into the void that women should lower their standards and pick you against their own will is bizarre Not saying you-you btw just speaking generally
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:31 AM
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Even worse then. If it literally never happens, my prior point stands even firmer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:27 AM
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But if the rejection outweighs the success THAT much, then something is wrong. My personal guess would be you’re aiming way out your league
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:05 AM
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That’s fair. Then again that wouldn’t be representative of the average person. But yes, if you either have some mental illness that affects social awareness etc, or if you’re just "odd" due to upbringing or something, I could see how would be tricky. Though a solution I rarely hear other people offer, is aiming for people across the board from you. If you’re "not normal" (for lack of better words) then logically you should aim for other "not normal" people. Because not doing so would very obviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:36 AM
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Maybe when you’re a child sure. Normally though, as we mature we understand it’s a part of life. You win some, you lose some. Not to mention a smart person looks at rejection as a opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:22 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:05 AM
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This is just another internet-incel lie. Nothing bad will happen if you approach someone in a normal way. You’d have to be really off putting if simply doing so gives off a creepy or threatening vibe. OR perhaps if you only approach visibly strange women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:55 AM
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100%. And a lot of them use it to justify their anti-immigration views
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:07 AM
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Dude even granting that as 100% true. It still becomes a moot point. Reason being, humans in general, would feel like buying a new motorcycle with months of hard earned saved up money, is a way higher achievement, and would make us feel way better, than if some rich person just gifted that motorcycle right away. Psychologically speaking. So. When you have a “toxic” guy or whatever, then that presents more issues, higher highs and lows emotionally, more struggles, more battles, essentially it bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:26 PM
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Truth bomb
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:21 PM
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All this to say “we feel like it’s more of an accomplishment to buy a new motorcycle with months of hard earned, saved up money, rather than some rich dude giving it for free.”. Like no shit dude. This is for all humans. Not only women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:14 PM
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Dude.. some men just have to lower their standards. That’s literally it. Sooo many guys here who’re unattractive (either physically or psychologically) feel entitled to a attractive woman. 2/10’s getting pissy because the 8/10’s don’t want them🤣 Do basic probability for fucks sake. Aim for YOUR LEVEL, or EVEN LOWER to further increase the odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:38 PM
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Well red pillers didn’t even get experience as kids. It’s the bullied kids that later become RP. That’s why they have so much resentment towards women and “popular dudes”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:05 PM
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Right. “Woman don’t want sex?”, men could just rape them easy. Literarily for 99% of human existence been like that, and in some cases still are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:04 PM
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Are you aware that asexual people exist? That paralyzed people exist? Erectile dysfunction? Long distance relationships? Old couples with zero sexual interest? People on medication without lust, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:22 PM
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I said neither. I specifically just said “lots of people”. Just going against the notion a romantic relationship must include sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:19 PM
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Flip that around. Are you saying the only thing you do with a partner is constant, uninterrupted sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:18 PM
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It’s not. But go ahead and provide the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:53 PM
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Right. Lots of lonely dudes here who believe women and relationships solely exist for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:25 PM
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Lol wtf. You can definitely have a romantic relationship without sex dude. Lots of people have. Not to mention very old couples
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 08:14 PM
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Lmao that’s bs. I’m starting to get the feeling that you guys are BELOW average and assume your experiences reflect the experience of average
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:11 PM
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I’m not sure what you’re saying
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:56 PM
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Well then.. I didn’t know I had all this luck
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:53 PM
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Most women go for average men. That’s why average exists. If you’re talking about “women maybe choose a bit differently between apps and real life”.. I don’t know. I could see it be the case because, more options = more picky. That makes sense both psychologically and rationally. Like if a person has more and better options, then use them. Why the fuck not? But also I could not see it be the case, because women overall tend to value personality a lot. And personally can make up for physical attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:52 PM
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And most couples I see outside, both people look average. That’s what average is. I even regularly see couples that make me think “wow that girl is way more attractive than him”. But let’s pretend you’re right for the sake of argument. You’re saying that would be the case for “most”, meaning there are still cases where that doesn’t apply. So even in your own hypothetical word, I can be average and still get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:41 PM
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Lol my experience is the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:36 PM
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I mean I guess I look alright but people in my country are kinda known to be good looking. Still put me in average though. So you’re saying average people aren’t physically attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:14 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:00 PM
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What counts as average?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:47 PM
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Since men are simpy and any woman gets a ton of interest, obviously they’d be more picky. That’s rational human behavior. But I do want to say that as a average dude myself, I’ve used apps for about decade and could get weekly dates if I had the time. It’s extremely easy. And lots of my gfs use dating apps to fuck some random guy after a night out. Same thing there. I don’t see why a woman exclusively interested in real relationships A, wouldn’t make that clear on the app, and B, isn’t using mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:44 PM
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Holy shit🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:36 PM
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🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:15 PM
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All I know is that I’ve been sexually active since 14 (according to the nerds here I’m a “chad”) and all my relationships have been more or less equal🤷🏽‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:27 PM
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The issue is a lot of men are super insecure about this (I suspect it’s about no sense of purpose so you want to use old traditional roles to fill that void), and it can come up down the line, or they can keep it inside hence it manifests in different ways. As a man, this always boggled my mind. If I could, I’d happily be married to a billionaire woman that took care of 100% of the financials. Household chores I already enjoy doing (or I enjoy the result) so that train has always traveled by its…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 03:08 AM
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How sure are you about the importance of it though? For instance, the happiest places on earth, tend to be the least economically prosperous. Likewise, why would the Abrahamic religious for the past thousand years motivate people to refrain from sex? How can the whole “sex is immoral” have worked for so long (and still does in lots of places)? If it’s indeed a strong, human need? If it’s truly that important I wouldn’t imagine the negative view of it working for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:09 PM
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Well ignoring the fact that lots of humans (maybe even most?) don’t have friends or romantic relationships (super young people, super old people, monks, and other religiously motivated folks etc) still.. what’s the point then? Is the point to just say “it would probably help people if more homeless people had homes”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:38 PM
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Your position seems pretty loose and pointless for lack of better words. If we skip all the issues around your use of the words want/need and the differences etc. let’s just for sake of argument assume that all humans need regular sex to function properly. So what? What can that possibly lead to other than, forcing women to choose unwanted men, make it legal for these men to rape people, create extremely sophisticated AI sex-bots to give out for free? Euthanize them all at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:14 AM
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Yea I’m not saying unnatural = bad. Or that this is the responsibility of women. I think it’s a great procedure that I’m assuming helps millions of people daily. I’m all for it. I just find it funny how lots of red-pill/conservatives do them (I suspect because lies they’ve been told). Because if it was only super common amongst liberal men (or whatever the fuck the opposite to rp is) you KNOW they’d think of it as unmanly, gay, beta, weak etc. and that’s.. very funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:54 AM
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A snip that wouldn’t have happened without medical intervention, aka unnatural
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 11:41 PM
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Yea of course it’s not only funny/ironic but sad as well. But I also place some personal agency there, which imo gives me the right to judge as well. Like I wouldn’t necessarily feel sorry for someone that thought it was a good idea to go swimming with sharks and happens to get bitten
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:54 PM
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Because you framed it as “feminists think this…” meaning, you’d expect this to be a largely agreed upon take. Which, it isn’t. Maybe some people like more rough sex and others less so. And maybe some of it is because of the patriarchy, and maybe why some women enjoy it is because of evolutionary adaptation. As historically, men brutally raped women constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:21 PM
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So first off, you don’t know if these women even are feminist. Second, two Reddit posts (one from 3 years ago, other from 2 years ago). First one wasn’t even about them, it was about something they presumably heard their friend express. So not very relevant. Second one is about some of the potential issues with rougher sex, which to be clear, were 100% valid and true. So not relevant there either. And based on these two extremely underwhelming examples, my interests isn’t big enough to research …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:01 PM
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That’s a strange assumption to make. Totally depends on the circumstances of the situation. When my gf puts on weight it doesn’t bother me whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:38 PM
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A lot? Right.. so name three
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:31 PM
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Who exactly are trying to tell men they don’t exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:29 PM
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Oh. I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s a preference even, it’s just the somewhat default sexual experience. The times I’ve tried the more extreme stuff it has usually not been by my own initiative. I just find the whole subject a way for misogynistic men to criticize women for “inherently being slutty” or whatever. Most sexual encounters historically have probably been rapes more of less. So it wouldn’t be strange if women evolved a somewhat biological preference for that type of “sexual aggression…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:56 PM
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Yea well I’m not talking about going back to being cavemen or anything. Or anything about “submissive women” or whatnot. Just the physical activity changing the body, in this case the male organ, because of what other men told them. Ofc if people want to do that, they should have the right to. I just find it funny that it’s usually the conservatives/red pillers (who are usually so obsessed with all the pseudo science regarding “traditional” male/women roles & duties) who get this procedure done.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:15 PM
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Reactions to what? If you’re asking about the average sexual experience, well humans are still animals, so it wouldn’t be weird for us to be a little “animalistic” in bed either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:04 PM
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A bit of both I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:35 PM
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I’m male and I also enjoy light bdsm. Next
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:27 PM
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It’s the same in the sense it’s not the default, it’s an degradation of male biology
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:11 PM
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Of course you have no regrets. Why on earth would you? That’s anxiety waiting to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:15 PM
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I will never change or deactivate anything that has to do with my male organ. My guess is you bought into the red pill lie that it’s a good idea “because all these women are baby trapping (which statistically, practically never happens)”. And you got the procedure done, so now you must stand behind that decision😭 RIP your balls
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:48 PM
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Lmfao… so you insta believe everything people say online? Just up the numbers. In the grand scheme of things, nobody steals sperm, it never happens. And the incredibly rare instances where it does happen, it’s the vast majority of the cases against celebrities and other 1%ers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:37 PM
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I find it pretty emasculating. Like when the monks cut off their sack. It’s a part of male autonomy (also directly involved with testosterone production etc), so I’d never destroy it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:11 PM
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The “creep check” is 100% made up bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:55 AM
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I’ve already explained how you’re taking the analogy the wrong way. I’m not talking about “deals are usually better with someone you know”, I’m talking about just looking at a deal from the outside and assuming it’s context
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:18 PM
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So extend the hypothetical then. Maybe Bob could afford to buy milk of a higher quality than Bill could. That’s life. Not everything is the same for everyone, and that’s not necessarily unfair. Yea not sure how relevant this analogy even is but it’s about how you say something. If a white dude grows up in the hood and says nigga then nobody cares (at least not the people in his hood). Same thing if a friend of a girl tells set girl “oh you’re such a slut” jokingly, she probably wouldn’t care. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:39 PM
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You’re ignoring the bigger point, but even in your example it doesn’t work. How can I expect the same price for a gallon of milk that the store provided 10 years ago? It literally changes the word and meaning. Only people who have issues with white dudes in the hood acting like people in the hood, are people not from the hood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:50 PM
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See that’s the issue, you’re looking at it from the pov of “…getting a better deal than me”. Meaning, your solely focused on how it would benefit YOU, and no consideration goes to the person you’re supposedly in love with. Let’s assume I really enjoy watching golf, and my gf truly hates it, if I get her to sit down and watch golf for 12h straight, although it’s 100% within MY interests, it’s still a BAD deal, because I love my gf and if she’s happy I’m happy. So surely you must see this disconne…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 07:30 PM
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Falls flat how? I don’t take bad argument seriously like that. Same thing with how lots of men have serious issues with women’s promiscuity. Those dudes need to get over it, or be happy alone. But there’s plenty of dudes like me who aren’t sexist like that, so more for us!😅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:58 PM
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Well no, because the point of the analogy was more leaning towards the fact that you don’t know the circumstances or context behind someone else’s deal with someone else. It’s irrational to assume that everyone will and can get the exact same deal. Yea I mean I understand your pov. And that you’re jealous about women treating you “unfairly” or something. Let me guess, you’d probably also would have issues with your wife having more past partners than you, or some ex with a horse dick? Lots of 15…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 06:42 PM
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That’s once you’ve already established a relationship. Men have this weird misunderstanding of normal, human progress or evolution. There could be things you enjoyed before (or had no issues trying, or had issues with but did anyways) that you know, you don’t enjoy now. Like how we function with literally everything else. Also it’s extremely common for young guys to be rapey and demanding, so it’s common for a inexperienced, insecure, young woman to have tried new things in the beginning that a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:39 PM
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Yea it’s the typical self centered, narcissistic pov. If I go to the local fruit market for the first time, and I see some regular customer getting a very good “friend-deal”, as a newcomer myself, it would be weird and unsocial if I started demanding the same deal
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:14 PM
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A bunch of text, but what’s the argument? Things change with time, most of the time for the better, sometimes for the worse, always has, always will
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 05:03 PM
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If they’re a complete stranger perhaps, but even then, I doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:36 PM
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If the woman really cares about not being slut sure. But more normal women will probably laugh at that, as there’s nothing wrong with “sluts”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:10 PM
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Not sure what the woman on plastic horse means but it strengthens your point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:02 PM
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Yea because it’s 100% effective apparently. So it’s literally the most logical insult they could use
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:01 PM
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It’s crazy, bizarre, sad, funny all at the same time. But it explains so much. For instance, insecure men having issues with their gfs “past”, is also due to penis size insecurity when you really peel back all the layers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:32 PM
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There is no one more obsessed with dicks than straight dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:09 PM
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I’m just asking you to clarify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:17 PM
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But what’s the point? What’s the argument? People seeking something, wanting others who seek something similar is a non point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:13 PM
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Girls who want to fuck like dudes who want to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:04 PM
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Not sure I follow the first segment. Sounds like saying “people who work out routinely, get results.”. Sure, lots of dudes who overestimate the value of what they can or want to bring to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:58 PM
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Post seems all over the place, what is the point or argument here?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:32 PM
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“Bro. Lol” is a certainly a response. Not necessarily the understanding, but more so a good balance of optimal traits. I never think about if what I do or want to do is masculine or feminine. I just do what I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:58 PM
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The thing is masculine and feminine changes depending on time or culture. Not long ago we wouldn’t say that education or politics is also for women. Likewise we wouldn’t say men having face wash routines or jewelry is manly. There are things men tend to be better at women can learn from, and the same truth exists the other way around. My father learned me to be extremely stoic and inexpressive of certain emotions or interests, but then given the chance to do the opposite, it only grew me as a hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:02 PM
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That’s 100% true, but even when granting his own argument it doesn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:42 PM
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That’s not how love and attraction functions in the brain, but even granting that (in sake of argument), so what? If that’s who they don’t chose anyway, who cares? In a hypothetical society maybe I’d choose a perfect woman that checks every possible box, 150iq, funnier than every professional comedian, the best artist I know, huge butt and breasts but somehow very thin waist, happens to like everything I like, makes billions and provides for me etc… that doesn’t mean I still wouldn’t “settle” fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:35 PM
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This whole thing falls flat when you consider that the vast majority of women don’t go for the “top tier man” and just go for people more or less at the same level, hence most couples consist of average peoppe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:58 PM
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What does this have to do with women? Men can create communities and do activities just as women can, so either do that or stop crying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:53 PM
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That’s a fair point, but it is under the medium where I live nonetheless
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:43 PM
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Ok? But you do understand the concept of “if I’m living a unique reality, then that isn’t reflective of the rest of society” right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:16 PM
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Yet the vast majority of couples in the world are composed of two very average people. So clearly you must realize your experience isn’t reflective of reality right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:25 PM
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And what reality do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:14 PM
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Yea the whole “women only want you if you’re tall” is a bs internet theory not reflective of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:07 PM
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178cm-179cm why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:30 PM
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I mean yeah? Lots of men with internal and/or external issues, become spiteful and pessimistic, and then use women as a scapegoat to blame all their issues on. Just look around in his very sub for daily examples😅
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:14 PM
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Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:16 PM
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From my own experience, women here tend to have better opinions than men. Although any red pillers are dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:15 PM
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Harder but alright if done correctly? Or are you asking the number? 10, 11 what’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:34 PM
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10~ years is creepy?🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:25 PM
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Yea not shit, did you even read my comment? Considering that 30 other people perfectly understood the point of the holocausts-thing, and you don’t, shows it’s due to your own incapabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:24 PM
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If anything it should be marked as “rant” then Or whatever you’d call listening to the lunatic standing on the sidewalk with a weird sign and megaphone spewing absolute, incoherent nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:17 AM
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I find these posts to be very annoying. We get it, you’re either super young and lack life experience, you got heartbroken once and ended up with some “all women suck” psychosis, you’re just a misogynist, you have actual mommy-issues, list goes on. Creating such a irrational and painfully obvious biased post and marking it as “debate” is hilarious. Debate what? Your life? Your whatever trauma you have? You can’t just apply the word “debate” and think it makes your take worthy to seriously respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:59 PM
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Wooah wtf…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:53 AM
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4K is average monthly rate?!🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:01 PM
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That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying a woman is way more likely being attacked etc by a man than by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:33 AM
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The odds would be substantially lower if only females
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:29 AM
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Thanks! (And just to be clear, there has been no misusing of any stats from my part, and that’s why I’m responding to false bs with the same effort)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:31 PM
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It’s totally not irrelevant, but ok. Again, depends on what it is specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:29 PM
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You say “I don’t believe I did”, whilst missing the point in this very response, again… I can try one last time I guess (and if you still don’t get it, God help you ig): I’m not comparing these things like they have anything to do with each other, I’m using the example to illustrate the point that “different conversations/expressions” get treated differently. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:18 PM
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That’s the point, yes. Depends on how, and what you complain. I’d treat these complaints differently: “I hate that I can’t grow a beard, I think it would look so cool on me.” “Feminism has turned modern women into whores. They’re so dumb, they don’t realize they’re getting used and abused by Chads. And when they’ve hit the wall and want to settle down, no good man with dignity like me will take care of them and their cum dumped used holes!”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:03 PM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:55 PM
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Completely missing the point. I’m not comparing these things. I’m making the point that different subjects get treated differently depending on what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:51 PM
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Depends on what the expression is about specifically. If I want to talk about “how can I improve my cooking skills?”, that’s one thing. If I want to talk about “how can I legally marry 7 year olds”, then that’s another thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:19 PM
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First of all, no one says that about a dude that is undesired and doesn’t complain either. Second, a lot of these undesired dudes who complain, are irrational. They could be a 2/10 looks or personality wise, yet they’re pissed that they can’t get a 8/10 woman. Entitled and delusional. Either lower the standards to something reasonable, or people will justifiably continue to laugh at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:17 PM
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It’s like telling a dude born without arms that spending your whole life miserable and spiteful always complaining about why you don’t have arms, is a good idea. If these dudes like self harm, then so be it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:06 PM
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Careful don’t fall off the edge!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:03 PM
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“But complaining feels so goood” /The Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:00 PM
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99% of feminists aren’t notable. So why are you using them as proxy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:15 PM
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Doesn’t it hurt your brain?😂 ALL stats (global, present and past) are on my side here. You have a right to think the earth is flat too! I’m not going to stop you. But I am not going to waste time with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:13 PM
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I don’t think so. Single men seem to exclusively stay locked inside complaining about women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:31 PM
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Awe how cute. You’re either too triggered or too unintelligent to understand that these statements are completely different: Most men are rapists and murderers… Most rapists and murders are men…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:14 PM
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Significantly more men steal than women. You could also add, break ins, robberies, murder, rape, drive by shootings, arson, stalkings, torturing, serial killing, which are also mainly done by men by a large margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:45 PM
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I’d be less prone to lock the door if I had exclusively female neighbors, as opposed to men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:57 PM
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If violence is from 90%+ done by men, as well as towards women. It would be completely rational for some of them (if they choose) to keep that in mind when navigating through the world. That’s not sexism per say, it’s just being based in reality. As a man I also take steps to help reduce that fear. You could use those very real statistics to flat out discriminate others and such, but not necessarily. Humans are pattern seekers by nature. And that’s one of the reason why we even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:56 PM
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The fact that you don’t understand the point of the hypothetical says enough. It has nothing to do with “dads approval”. Read it again, think extra hard within set context, and come back if you understand it. Again, ask them. I’m telling you this is what they think. You can say “no” all you want, I’m still going to tell you to see for yourself by asking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:15 PM
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I don’t think anyone is arguing for controlling your kids in regards to who they love… so not sure what the relevance of that is. The important part is, “I wouldn’t like it, but I would accept it”. Assuming you adhere to these views yourself, how come you “wouldn’t like it”? That makes no sense. And is the hypocrisy I’m getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:12 PM
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You implied it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:09 PM
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Case in point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:08 PM
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The extremeness is intended. It’s to show that “just because some think this way”, doesn’t give it moral or logical credibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:09 PM
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So… ask them. Most dudes who do that will openly give you their motivations to somewhat varying degrees: “Those women aren’t as used, they know less, they haven’t hit the wall, they’re easier to control, they’re more willing to do whatever you want sexually…”. List goes on. Of course it’s possible that such a relationship could be 100% genuine from both sides, but that group is so small, it’s not what you’d generally criticize.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:07 PM
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I’m making the underlying point that, that’s precisely what you do against a word-salad. Something so incoherent and overly complicated for no reason, is not worth the time or brain power to take or break down seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:04 PM
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Missing the point. It has nothing to do with how many would actually care about what their parent thinks about their relationship. The point is, if you adhere to these destructive and misogynistic views as a man, you should also be fine with your hypothetical daughter ending up with someone likeminded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:49 PM
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That’s not what I’m asking. I’m asking you to technically explain in a scientific manner why the example is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:46 PM
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So if he wasn’t accused or convinced of any crimes, but only spewed whatever garbage he spews, you’d be fine with your hypothetical 18 yo daughter being with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:45 PM
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I’m not sure I’d say anyone intrinsically DESERVES it. But simply on the basis that men had more rights etc in the past, and not women, that makes women deserving of the same at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:43 PM
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Back to the loop. I’ll ask you why is it moronic, To which you’ll respond: because they’re different. Then I’ll ask you why some general differences = equality is moronic, To which you’ll respond: it just does. Braindead conversation to keep trying to hammer in on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:41 PM
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Some probably would yea. But some also would be comfortable with murdering or raping folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:38 PM
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Excellent question. And no red piller will respond honestly. Same thing when (I think it was Destiny) asked Sneako (who’s a Andrew Tate simp), “would you be happy if your daughter was dating Andrew Tate?”.🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:24 PM
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Again, you hop to something else when presented with a task. The task was, “explain why that example I gave you is wrong”. And just as a response to the thing you hopped to now, maybe I worded it badly, I don’t thing your examples of “age gap, masculine behavior, play fighting (whatever that means) etc” are issues I care about. But if others do, then they should try to fix them for the better. But please stay on the first thing first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:17 PM
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My question is, should we do that according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:12 PM
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Here we go again. Look at how easy this is: I’m a feminist because I think women should have the same rights and freedoms as men. Now explain your “ideology” in a similar manner. My guess is that you’ll say something like: well no because men and women are different. To which I’d answer: So? They can be generally different in some ways, yet deserving of the same treatment. We’ve looped here countless times already.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:10 PM
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I’m talking about this: “This is word salad: in order to calculate the expected acceleration module-index from a submarine exhaust tank, start by weighing the difference nuances seen in the default formulas, then extract the differing percentage points accordingly following basic force output.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:02 PM
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That would be a long list. The idea that you don’t understand that we can give men and women the same rights/freedoms etc, even if some men and women can be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:01 PM
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Tell me why the word-salad example makes no sense. Same thing. It’s not worth the headache. Like I wouldn’t waste time explaining why someone who thinks the earth is flat is wrong, after a certain point. If you come with a GOOD and coherent counter argument, I’ll happily dissect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:58 PM
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Lol. About every single point we’ve landed on. I’ve already given different points multiple chances, yet it loops back to nothing coherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:43 PM
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Like the example I gave you about word-salad. Same thing. I can read it, and understand that it makes no sense. I’m not saying I literally don’t understand the words you’re using or something, I’m saying whatever argument you’re trying to convey, makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:41 PM
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It means even a person that sucks at arguing, could still be objectively right. But that’s not the conclusion when reading your replies. Some things are more black and white, other things are more nuanced. To me, the idea that the sexes deserve equality and that’s what we should aim for, is a “black and white” thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:29 PM
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The reason is that, although I’ve found your answers to be confusing and all over the place from the start, I was willing to see where it landed. When teaching that point, it only solidified my prior assessment. I was willing to see if there was some coherent point on the other side, there wasn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:25 PM
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Technically maybe. But I’d like to hold my reading comprehension at a higher regard, so I don’t think so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:40 PM
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I have multiple times, but end up getting the same incoherent responses. There no point in looping
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:39 PM
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You have explained anything simply. When I say word salad it’s not just because I disagree and you write a lot. It’s because you use words and formed sentences that are completely incoherent and overly complicated for no reason. Just a reasonable elaboration or different opinion obviously doesn’t mean word salad. This is word salad: in order to calculate the expected acceleration module-index from a submarine exhaust tank, start by weighing the difference nuances seen in the default formulas, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:18 PM
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Ok. So then, when you’re blacked out to that extent, you don’t experience reality the same right? Like not at all even? You’re there in person, but you are not there. That’s what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:37 PM
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Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:36 PM
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Still not answering lol. So have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:29 PM
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Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:29 PM
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Again, I only follow the question up to this point: “Acknowledging the sexes are different, do you still want the to be treated equally…”. But when you add the “for this difference”, the question makes no sense to me. I’ve already asked you to clarify wtf you mean, but your answer was just as incoherent. So what can we do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:28 PM
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So have you or not? I think personal experience with being too drunk and/or high gives a lot of insight to what I felt (or technically didn’t feel).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:26 PM
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Well… what can I say, I disagree. I think It is about your limitations. If you could explain your ideology more simply then maybe I’d give it another shot, but so far it’s just been a bunch of word-salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:24 PM
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I still don’t get it. What exactly are you asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:06 PM
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I refer back to my prior suspicions. It’s not entering your head, that’s not on me, that’s on you. As I’ve explained this thing multiple times at this point. If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. For the heck of it, one last time: A person can be scientifically driven, yet have the favorite color teal for no apparent scientific reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:04 PM
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No? Have you ever been so fucked up you become unresponsive?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:01 PM
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I’d engage in any discussion to a certain point. That’s just a fun time to me, doesn’t really matter what it’s about. If you can’t take your “complex” idea, and make it more easily understood, then that’s your own limitations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:00 PM
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What do you mean? You lost me again
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:53 PM
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🤨… I thought we were talking about ice cream all this time, how stupid of me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:51 PM
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I was told so, the person confirmed it and with “evidence” left behind
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:49 PM
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I don’t think it has ever been productive to be clear. Like I’ve kept everything concise, to-the-point, relevant and generally short and easily understood. Whereas you take anything I say and run with it, switching through multiple different subjects and assumptions, never answering my questions clearly and so on. (This isn’t intended to be a insult btw) my genuine suspicion is that you’re either a salesman of some sort, or have autism? You don’t have to answer to that if that’s too personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:48 PM
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Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:37 PM
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I don’t. I can be scientifically driven, yet not have a scientific basis for why pistachio ice cream is my favorite. Again, you’re looking at things from a all or nothing type of perspective that I don’t adhere to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:34 PM
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Depends on who you ask and what your standards are for that I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:21 PM
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Well that’s where this discussion ends then. I’m saying I wasn’t aroused, because I wasn’t registering anything really (and to me arousal is in part a feeling like I explained). I felt nothing. You’re saying, “no you actually were you just can’t remember it.”. Nothing productive can come from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:19 PM
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What does that have to do with anything? I suspect I wouldn’t because you don’t make any sense, at all. It’s almost impressive how you can use to many words yet say so little.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:15 PM
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Expect you are. They’re two different things to me. You can disagree, that’s fine. Not sure what you mean by “this difference”. As a baseline, I’d want them to be treated equally. Not sure how many times I can repeat the same opinion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:12 PM
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Huh?! I’m just saying by the definition I use, I am a feminist. Nothing more, nothing less. I don’t think we should judge anyone that enjoys sex. Man or woman. I’ve never said the reasons why I’m a feminist are scientific. It’s an subjective, philosophical view. Just like I’d say “pistachio ice cream is my favorite”. I don’t use science to make that claim, as it just explains a personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:09 PM
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It depends on what the fuck it is lmao… I just use the most common definition found in the dictionary. So by that definition, I’m a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:21 AM
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Not sure what the differences are. I’m saying I was so out of it, I wasn’t there. I wasn’t registering reality at the time. Asleep essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:43 PM
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I don’t know. I’m not the one making the positive claim, you are. I don’t agree with any of these things. I don’t agree that the vast majority of men are asshole, neither that it’s degrading for a woman to fuck a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:41 PM
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I’m not putting these things on the same plate as you. I believe there can exist general differences between the sexes. That’s one subject. I also believe equality for everyone is better. That’s another subject. You’re the one intermingling these things, not me. So I’m not beholden to the same standards and whatnot as you there, hence we disagree there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:39 PM
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In terms of freedoms and equality, I absolutely do that. No issue saying that. Imo using a broad brush in itself isn’t bad, it fully depends on what you’re using it on. I’m more “equality for everyone” regardless of anything else. Hence it’s my baseline position. If there are issues after that, related or not, we’d work on those accordingly. All feminism I’ve read doesn’t claim that. So not so sure what feministic ideas you’ve read?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:35 PM
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Like I said before I can use two objects to create an analogy that paints Hitler up as a good guy. So we can skip the silly analogies. Analogy doesn’t equal truth. Why is it degrading? You’re just saying it’s bad (which I obviously understand is YOUR opinion at this point), whilst not explaining the why’s. I’m only interested in the motivation behind the why’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:49 PM
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No I’m just saying we judge things and people on a case by base basis. I think we’re more individuals than groups. For instance you said the overwhelming amount of men have serious issues with promiscuous women for partners, that has never been an issue for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:24 PM
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It’s not intended to be an argument, it’s just an observation. I said that whilst granting your understanding of reality. I don’t think feminism causes any issues personally. Because we don’t use the same paintbrush for everything. Two things can be similar and different depending on the specific thing you’re comparing. The sexes can be generally different, yet deserving of the same right and treatments and whatnot. Again, one doesn’t rule out the other. You’re saying feminists claim that men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:20 PM
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Not sure how that correlates. Just to make it clear, why do you think we should judge women more negatively for sleeping around?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:17 PM
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The difference is the relevance, and the amount of people in each group
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:12 PM
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As an answer to your initial question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:11 PM
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Mainstream media isn’t the only news people listen to, alt media is arguably even more relevant at times
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:30 PM
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I attend feminist spaces and such. I’m not an author no. You can find celebrities that hate women, and you can find celebrities that men. I’d argue woman hatred is more physically dangerous though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:25 PM
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Yet he was the most googled person at one point and his course sells out every time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:23 PM
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I’m a feminist and I don’t say that. So what now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:20 PM
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I do🤷🏽‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:19 PM
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Right. So now you’re onboard then that erection doesn’t = arousal. Arousal is the feeling, aka being horny. So a man can have sex without being aroused. For example I was technically raped once (I was blacked out drunk and couldn’t feel nor be aware of anything), yet a friend took the freedom to have sex with me. Sex wasn’t on my mind, because nothing was, I was out. But sex was accomplished. Hence that goes against your prior notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:13 PM
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But you don’t use that same logic, because you want women to be more judged by sleeping around and whatnot?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:10 PM
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You’re way overcomplicating it. The sexes can be generally different in some ways, yet deserve the same rights and opportunities. There’s no logical contradiction there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:07 PM
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Because you’re not neutral to it and instead become spiteful, jealous and entitled. And since sex isn’t immoral, women should really care about what you think
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:03 PM
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What’s the definition of a cuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:58 AM
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I wasn’t really using it, I was responding to it, when you or someone else linked it. I just didn’t scroll through it enough the first time to see that it’s a clearly biased publisher. I worded it stupidly. I meant to say that two sources can look at the same initial paper, but then represent it differently depending on whatever narrative they want to sell. “Bring up this aspect, ignore this aspect” and so on. Basically just explaining biases lol. And the importance of using natural publishers. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:57 AM
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Lmao. The problem fixes itself. Women will become more free, so these dudes will either have to adapt or just not pass on their genes. And future duders will be more chill
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 03:08 AM
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The studies seem indeed to be lacking overall, and also represented differently depending on who’s making the claims. But the specific site you linked, is a self proclaimed republican publisher, with the sole intent to glorify marriage and push conservative ideals. For example seen through the site goal imperative, and with referenced related articles such as “stop penalizing boys for being boys”, and “The republican marriage advantage: …and family stability in the Trump era.”. So that specific …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:52 AM
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You’re misunderstanding me… That’s what I (!) said. To me arousal is a FEELING. The erection is just a physical result of set FEELING. When I wake up in the morning with a raging boner, I’m not necessarily FEELING aroused aka horny. I’m just hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:04 AM
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Right. So you’d give them even MORE humanity seeing how they’re “a step below”. Earlier you said women are also “under men”, so why don’t you use the same logic there?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:01 AM
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Then that’s not a optimal result and we need to tweak things for the better. But reading the definition of feminism, nothing there states this is the end goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:00 AM
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…or licking. Well no because I wouldn’t say that arousal is just = erection. To me the erection part is just a natural response to the feeling arousal. This is what we diverge on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:13 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:11 PM
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That’s not the feminism I’ve read…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:05 PM
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So the examples we can work with are cheating, entitlement, and attention seeking. Any stats to regarding this? Specifically that being more promiscuous would inherently increase these “traits” for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:03 PM
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Lmao you can’t be serious bro… that’s a new age Urban Dictionary term. If a virgin partakes in “soaking”, are they still a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:00 PM
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Because you can differentiate between these things. People with Down syndrome aren’t generally “equal” to non Down syndrome people biologically, but do they deserve the same humanitarian rights? Yes. One doesn’t rule or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:54 PM
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I mean sure it’s a whole other philosophical debate. In my opinion we can’t control where we’re born, hence I should be a personal choice. Would it be cool if everyone were willing to die for their land? Perhaps. Would I make that a mandatory thing if I ruled the world? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:52 PM
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It doesn’t care what everything comes from from a existential standpoint like religion. It just suggest that we should try aiming for equality for the sexes because that would be morally superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:51 PM
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Who says everything intrinsically male = evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:24 PM
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So what would you call it if I put my soft penis in a vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:22 PM
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So how was your ex being pretty slutty a issue? How did that manifest itself negatively? If she was slutty before, yet completely loyal and a good partner with you, what issues are left?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:56 PM
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The difference is feminism doesn’t claim that men and women have equal rights by nature or whatever, it just proposes a systemic and cultural suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:53 PM
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I don’t even think all men do or should do that. It should be a personal choice. Men and women alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:51 PM
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You have a weird way of playing with words. Any idea is just that, an idea. Everything is about what the idea becomes, how it’s utilized. Feminism just aims for equality. Religion is the idea that everything was created by a god. Both are similar in the sense that they’re philosophical originally, the difference is that religion wants to answer what everything comes from. Feminism doesn’t, it essentially just proposes an idea of “wouldn’t it be cool if women were equal to men? Let’s do that!”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:49 PM
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Both I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:42 PM
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Are you saying make arousal is just an erection? If yes, what about if I put my soft penis in a woman vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:41 PM
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Because in your dream society I’d assume you’d give less freedoms to women in comparison to men? If I’m wrong about that assumption, then we agree about what the best society is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:48 PM
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You couldn’t be further off the truth. Women couldn’t work, now they can. Women couldn’t vote, now they can. Women couldn’t educate themselves, now they can. All these things are objective facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:46 PM
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Then we just have different definitions of feminism. To me all it preaches is “women should have the same rights as men”. Which I’m all for. But if you’d ask me “women should have MORE rights than men”, then I’d disagree. But that’s not the definition I use.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:45 PM
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It’s my opinion after all. I don’t believe a dude would have issues with a woman’s past if it isn’t about his own insecurities. At least I haven’t heard any solid examples. To me it seems more like these dudes are obsessed with how other men see them, or have penis size issue, or have sex game issues, hence they become jealous and insecure. I’ve always been sure about how good I am in bed, so I’ve never thought about a partners past relationships. Why would I think about that? Again, AI is not c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:42 PM
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The point wasn’t about how common it is (it’s a hypothetical), the point is to disprove your claim that “for sex a man must be aroused”. Which it does. Obviously general truths exists. I just don’t believe in the notion that “a man must be aroused to have sex”, and “women can have sex without being aroused”. If I take me as a case in point, I’ve had sex with women I’m not particularly aroused by, just to be nice, or get it over with. And likewise, there’s been times I wasn’t able to have interco…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:36 PM
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Well since women haven’t had these freedoms for long (looking at when they got the right to vote, right to work, right to peruse education etc), there isn’t enough documented examples in time for me to work with. So ofc this is my assumption looking forward. But even if more equality results in bad results in the future in some aspects, I’d still prioritize equality as a core for all humans. That’s just my personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:37 PM
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Because we disagree on fundamentals. I don’t believe in gods and stuff. And since that is 100% subjective and can never be proven one way or another (just like Santa Claus) it’s not worth the time or effort for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:31 PM
1

So explain why you were more depressed as a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:30 PM
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Depends on what your definition of sex is. If a woman performs oral sex on a guys soft penis, that’s still a sexual act to me. He could take viagra, and have sex and so on. I’m just saying just because you can make an analogy doesn’t mean it lends credibility. Most of us can all agree Hitler was immoral, yet I can make an analogy showing the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:28 PM
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Well sure, I’m more neutral either way. Either they would be just as happy with more experience, or not. I’d believe both equally. I could’ve absolutely been more clear as to what I take issue with specifically. I was working under the pretense that this was understood from my side. I brought up sexism a lot which alludes to the issue I have being sex based. The classic red pill notion that “having lots of sex is specifically worse for women”, and not in the way that most men have these insecuri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:22 PM
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Again that was just a theory. Nothing I’ve seen contradicts this notion. My assumption would be that traditional people tend to stay longer in bad marriages. As it’s more taboo to divorce. Anyways, rereading the study, it appears I missed a crucial detail, the lesser reports of happiness were just as true for men as it was for women. So then it seems even if we pretend that “more partners always = worse marriage”, it falls flat on its face because it impacts promiscuous men the exact same rate. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:42 PM
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Individualism could be a direct result of more freedoms overall. For instance, now a woman can peruse her own dreams and aspirations, as opposed to taking the only traditional route which is “become a mother”. Evidence for what specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:12 PM
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Ah ok. This explains a lot. Makes it easier for me to prioritize what themes are worth diving into with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:06 PM
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Right, so basically the idea that men and women deserve equal rights. So why would you be more depressed when you were a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:05 PM
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That’s half the response yes. I know what the analogy is, I heard it when I was 12. The point is: (which you didn’t address at all, and I’m eating for), I can make an analogy painting Hitler up as a good guy. Just because you can make an analogy, doesn’t give the underlying message credibility. Everything else about “sex is about the man, you can’t have sex without an erect penis, you can have sex without a aroused woman” etc.. is all more misogynistic bs I disagree with. Not even really interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:03 PM
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Although I think more outdated societies could bring fulfillment like, “man’s job is to bring food to the table, and woman’s job is to take care of kids and house”. I think swaying away from this mold, eventually gives more people avenues to explore their own passions and whatnot, which leads to more deeper fulfillment in the long run. Fair because all people get the same chance to do whatever they want. Everyone can partake in the same race and more or less start on the same starting point. Hen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:00 AM
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Do you believe in god?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:55 AM
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What is feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:55 AM
2

To be fair it was one question: “Let’s grant that as true, so? What does that have to do with you if you don’t intend to treat her bad like that?“. The other was a counter argument that: “An analogy has to provide some sense of underlaying relevant truth to whatever you’re trying to convey. Just because you can use two intimate objects to make a silly analogy doesn’t give it credibility. I could make an analogy that paints Hitler up as a good guy.”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:54 AM
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Point is, honing in on traditional marriage to measure differences in psychological affects of having lots of sex, is limited. The newer study you linked, also showed that those with 5-6 (whatever it was) scored better than those with 2. So again, less = better doesn’t seem to be a solid deduction. Have we even gone through those specific aspects? So far we’ve only looked through marriage itself and reported happiness no? I think you’re still confusing two things here. The notion I take issue wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:51 AM
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It’s more fulfilling. It better advances us culturally, intellectually, scientifically and technologically. It’s more fair. It’s more fun. It’s more positive. Just for starters
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:43 AM
2

Do as you wish. You sound very depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:38 AM
2

You’ve ignored pretty much every single one of my prior questions, whereas I’ve answered all of yours. So before we once again move on to something else, read my questions again, and answer them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:37 AM
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No I’m asking you if you have any proof that “men and women come from different planets spiritually”. There are general biological differences between the sexes, yes. Of-fucking-course. The thing is I don’t value equality because it’s something I can measure materialistically. I value it because of practical reasons. Equal society is better than the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:35 AM
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That sounds like a very dark and depressing worldview. Life is short, it’s a shame to live under a cloud like that. Come to the light instead. Perhaps let people fuck and have fun and focus on something that brings more positivity to your existence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:07 AM
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Let’s grant that as true, so? What does that have to do with you if you don’t intend to treat her bad like that? The only logical conclusion is: your insecurities and obsessive thoughts about other men. An analogy has to provide some sense of underlaying relevant truth to whatever you’re trying to convey. Just because you can use two intimate objects to make a silly analogy doesn’t give it credibility. I could make an analogy that paints Hitler up as a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:03 AM
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Yea it’s ironic how they always talk about male hate and whatnot, whilst also claiming that 95% of men are trash
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:46 AM
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Since a lot of men (listening to red pillers it would be the overwhelming majority) are insecure about women’s pasts, of course that would affect self reported quality or happiness, since it’s, “a woman with a high body count, marries a average guy, and average guy has insecurity issues regarding her past”. So that’s a given. It becomes dishonest in this particular aspect because you’re weighing a woman with a high body count in a marriage with a guy that doesn’t prefer a woman with a high body …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:41 AM
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Equality is an idea derived from human language, so obviously… So that’s a no?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:28 AM
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And I’m telling you I’ve never seen a casual hook up as “trash”. Maybe generally more true. But the comparison is somewhat unfair on it’s face since a lot of men would literally fuck anything. So the bar is in hell for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:25 AM
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Highly sexually active specifically means? It wouldn’t surprise me if “highly sexually actively” people overall aren’t as interested in traditional marriage. For instance, where I live the average of sexual partners is much higher than that of the US, but we’re also extremely atheistic, and marriage being a religious thing, it’s way less common here. Americans seem to take marriage a lot more serious because of legal or cultural reasons etc. I’m fine with the notion that virgins or very inexperi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:23 AM
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As someone whose scientifically driven that seems ridiculous with all due respect. Do you have ANYTHING that can prove this tangibly? The same in what way? Second question is also super broad, make it more specific
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:49 PM
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Lol that’s kinda mean. I’ve partaken heavily in casual sex and I don’t think I’m trash for that. I treat everyone respectfully and don’t differentiate between the sexes. I’ve heard this notion before. And to me it just seems like the “high value men” or whatever you want to call them are just more experienced period. They’re more socially gifted, better talkers and so forth. So naturally they would generally be better at flirting etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:47 PM
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Uhm… how do you prove this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:17 PM
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Not sure what you mean by “looking up to”, as it obviously just has to do with attraction. Maybe you don’t have enough female friends then? I have plenty of female friends who just like me, after a night out, just hits some random dude up on tinder so they can smash and dip.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:17 PM
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You don’t literally believe men and women come from different planets do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:15 PM
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Well if the pool of men she can choose from is 95% assholes then that’s what she’d have to choose from to get her rocks off. If I’m horny and want to have sex, but the overwhelming majority of women I can choose from would be assholes, I wouldn’t care, as the goal is: I want to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:46 PM
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Again, this could only be hypothesized. Maybe they’re genuinely happy, or maybe they’re not. Maybe they’ve “accepted their faith” and the brain adapts itself, or maybe they’d be just as happy with more experience. We can’t know
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:38 PM
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And 3 is better than 2, and 4-5 is better than 3, and 6-9 is equal to 3. “For women, multiple partners purportedly reduces their desirability as spouses by evoking a gendered double-standard about promiscuity.” This is obviously a fact as men are highly insecure about women’s past. But it’s in my opinion irrelevant as women should just go for men like me who don’t care. So the insecure men either have to change or get wiped from the gene pool. My side is only growing stronger with time and each …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:34 PM
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Proven wrong how? Since I’m talking about someone’s psychology, it can’t really be proven either way. I never meant to say this was a proven fact, just my two cents as to why maybe it looks like that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:20 PM
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Just as I said at the very start as well. More experience means easier to know what you want and don’t want
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:16 PM
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Cherry pick? It’s a crucial part of the study just as any other part. It has the exact same impact as the other examples. So by definition not cherry picking. It’s the same for 3 partners. It’s the same for 4-5 partners. The mental gymnastics are not even impressive it’s so blatant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:12 PM
1

That’s a theory, just as your theory about “grass is greener on the other side” is a theory. So lost what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:07 PM
2

So you agree that means we can rule out the notion that less is more?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:04 PM
2

So that’s a yes? I must’ve missed that, do it again
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:54 PM
1

Again, that’s my personal theory as to why the number goes down again after 10+ partners. You have something better in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:53 PM
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You have? I must’ve missed it. So explain again, if we assume most men treat women like shit, why does that mean that we should judge women who enjoy casual sex? Sounds like a man-issue, not a woman-issue
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:52 PM
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That’s funny, now that you finally understood that the last study argues against you, you had to find something else. Another big issue with this new study: If less is more why would people with 2 partners have higher chance of divorce after 5 years of marriage in comparison to those with 6-9?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:50 PM
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Sure in your world. Personally I don’t hold this view though. As everything I’ve read shows that men and women have been generally just as “promiscuous” historically. The larger point is that, even if we grant your belief as true (that men by nature like casual sex way more than women), that doesn’t affect a women today who chooses to engage in casual sex. As she, obviously has no issues with it. So her natural predicaments aren’t relevant to her practical behavior. So in both cases, your argume…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:44 PM
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Granted means that I don’t necessarily believe 95% of men treat casual sex partners like shit, but I’m willing to accept that as a fact just to play around with your argument. More importantly how is this relevant? You’re saying most men are shit, I’d like to hold men at a higher regard, but if you’d want to me see most men as shit, I have no issues with that per say either. But that in itself has nothing to do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:39 PM
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This was based on my memory. I said “yes” when the actual answer is “there’s no significant difference”. Is that what you’re taking issues with? That minuscule of a detail?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:36 PM
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I’m not talking about a legal right, just the right to do something without judgment. Just as it is for men. I get that you find it shitty, so if you’re honest about everything being about your own insecurities specifically, I have no issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:34 PM
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But you’re the one assuming they’re being treated like shit. This is from your own head. And if their past doesn’t haunt them, why should it haunt you? Unless it’s about YOUR insecurities, which has been my theory from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:30 PM
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I’m not i follow your question even, it’s so vague. They don’t have to be equal in order to have equal rights. For instance, let’s assume men by nature are more prone to sleep around and women aren’t. So? Why would that take away the right if some women chose to in that sense “be more like men”? The one doesn’t rule out the other
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:29 PM
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Corrected what? The study shows there is no significant difference from 3> and 11-20, and even 21+.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:27 PM
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Now that you’ve understood that not everyone values the same things as you. If I ask you personally, if it’s not insecurity, why do you care so much about a woman’s past? Not trying to clown on you just understand genuinely
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:01 PM
2

Again it depends on what you’re looking at specifically. More same in some areas, more different in others
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:59 PM
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If they’re otherwise “the exact same”, then no. Personally doesn’t matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:53 PM
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What kind of 5 yo mind did that come form?😆 Two things can be equal or unequal depending on what you’re comparing. Are men and women equally human? Yes. Are men and women generally equally good at lifting heavy things? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:50 PM
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Isn’t a cuck is someone who enjoys seeing their partner have sex with others etc? I don’t. I just don’t care about women’s past.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:48 PM
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Depends on if you judge men the same way I suppose. And if yes, you’re just a judgmental person overall
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:45 PM
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You’re breaking my head. I told you “nobody has provided this”, and at the time you hadn’t. So what’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:44 PM
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What are you talking about? The study shows there is no significant difference from 3> and 11-20, and even 21+…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:42 PM
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I wouldn’t complain, since I’d be included in set world sooo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:33 PM
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I guess you’re doing women a huge favor lol. I lost my V at 14 and have been sexually active ever since (if I told you my number you’d assume I was lying), the difference is, I don’t carry these misogynistic views as you friend😅
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:32 PM
1

? How was I supposed to know “you were currently working on one”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:26 PM
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Granting your number as true, YES. They shouldn’t. So that these dudes can change or get wiped from the gene pool, and future dudes will be more chill
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:20 PM
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7, 10, 12 doesn’t matter. Hence I put this little symbol after “~”. Point is, it does at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:15 PM
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Lol learn how time works… You hadn’t before, that’s when I made the comment. You have now, and I haven’t made the same comment. 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:14 PM
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You gave me a good laugh, that’s something😄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:13 PM
2

For you that is😁
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:12 PM
2

AI is not a reliable source as it’s based on the information regardless if that information is true or false. It doesn’t fact check information, it just conveys it. Whatever it is. That’s my own theory as there are no other solid pointers as to why it goes down again. This is the conclusion I’ve found to make the most sense in explaining that specific pattern. If “less partners = better marriages”, then naturally we should see a 1-1 correlation between virgin women having the longest and happies…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:11 PM
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Isn’t it funny how I’ve asked all three of you to provide a study that solidifies your claims, yet none of you have done that? Isn’t that interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:48 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:46 PM
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You’ve said nothing here other than illusions can feel very real, WHICH IS MY FUCKING POINT😭 Also the boat hypothetical is about a 100% unsinkable boat. So whatever the titanic point was, it doesn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:39 PM
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Again, any studies or science behind your claims? If I granted your pessimistic worldview as true, why would I have issues with past assholes acting bad towards my hypothetical current partner? How is that a bad thing for me if I intend to not be one of those assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:37 PM
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Well every study I’ve read about the subject. I’ve had red pillers try to disprove me for years, with zero success.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:35 PM
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What’s the name of the specific study? I have some guesses at what you’re reading. If you look at the rate based on numbers of total partners, it shows an increased risk of divorce (If I remember correctly) from 3>, but then if you continue reading it goes down again after 7+~, which concludes that it has nothing to do with the number per say. Maybe, a virgin woman has a lower chance of divorcing because virgin women in marriages tend to be from super religious/traditional societies where divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:33 PM
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Then those men are just as insecure. You think numbers give credibility here? Most people at some point thought the earth was flat. Again, come with some solid science, until then, you’re just exposing your own issues
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:26 PM
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Since it isn’t based on any science, that makes it by definition an insecurity. Assume you have a boat and go sailing, and you know this magic boat has a 0% chance of sinking. If you’re still obsessively thinking about that it’s going to sink, then that is a insecurity. It’s an irrational fear not based in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:20 PM
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Lmao. Clear example of one of these insecure dudes obsessed with other men😂... The “none of the other guys had any respect for her” is super telling, and fits within my personal theory. You have no idea about that, the fact that you’d make this assumption shows it’s based on your own insecurities. An attractive dude with a good penis and/or good sex game, would have zero fears of not being up to par.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:16 PM
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Well being monogamous in a relationship has nothing to do with past relationships. What science? I told you I’ve read all the studies regarding this and nothing shows any correlation there. So I’d be open to reading something that proves otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:05 PM
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Not true. I’ve read all the studies regarding this and nothing correlates to higher risks of cheating, worse at pair bonding etc. It’s all misinformation mostly from sexist men. My personal guess is that these dudes either aren’t very attractive or have penis size issues, hence they obsess over their partners past hook ups, constantly comparing themselves and feeling lesser than. I have never thought about a partners past hook ups, why the fuck would I think about other men like that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:46 PM
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I guess if she enjoys self harm and wants to end up with a insecure dude who looks down on women who enjoy casual sex, then that could be bad. But If they go for mature and normal men who don’t have these insecurities, then nothing happens
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 05:42 PM
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Hell no
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:03 PM
1

They can be as angry as they want, I’m just saying I don’t care what they have to say at that point. And I will continue to encourage others (especially women) to also ignore them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:17 PM
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I disagree. I think the men who say they’re undesired and turn to anger towards women, need to be called out for the losers they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:44 PM
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What? Did you mean to say “want to be angry with them”? I’m not angry at anyone, I’m just saying when shitty and nasty people complain, I genuinely don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 04:22 PM
1

Not sure what you’re saying. It’s not hard to be a cool person. I see things like kindness and understanding as the bear minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:51 PM
1

Or when my dad tells me I’m not working hard enough. Or when my trainer tells me I’m not working out hard enough. Or when my teacher tells me “I should’ve understood this by now”. Or when the car behind me shouts mean thing at me. Or when some random mentally I’ll person in the sidewalk shouts FUCK YOU DEMON at me. Point being, some humans will say stuff that feel mean. Either get over it, or live in darkness. Easy choice for me. Not to mention that A LOT of these men we’re taking about become s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:15 PM
1

Dude what are you suggesting here? For instance, let’s say someone was born without arms. Do you think it’s a smart thing to spend life obsessively thinking about how shitty it is that you don’t have arms?!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:43 PM
1

I guess they can complain until they die, but I would assume that’s not good for their mental health
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:29 PM
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Depends on the result of the job. Lol no. Feminism is NOT saying men and women are biologically identical, only that they deserve identical rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:27 PM
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In what case wouldn’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:43 PM
-1

Well the majority of red pillers I’ve interacted with and heard speak, are the most hateful mfers around. Sure, there may exist some tiny minority that (for some reason) think the RP is a good solution for their situation, but that would not be the baseline assumption. Hence this wasn’t a personal attack but more so a genuine question, as I don’t believe it’s that hard for average dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:42 PM
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Don’t have any bro. Also I am actually a bit weird on that aspect. I’ve never seen a great value in materialistic stuff. Like the first big check I got, after doing some stats after, turned out over 50% of it went to cab rides for me and my friends🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:47 PM
-1

Lol. Lots of hours in a day, week, month, year, decade
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:36 PM
1

Damn ok. I didn’t mean if you were in love with them, talking about a stranger. But that’s even worse lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:10 PM
1

Oh ok. I would. Would you offer your seat to a pregnant woman on the bus?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:35 PM
1

To a post asking for personal experience🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:34 PM
-1

That’s fair. I was raised to save both
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:33 PM
0

Start by answering the hypothetical then we can add to it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:49 PM
1

So answer the hypothetical
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:49 PM
0

Selfishness trumps honesty I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:48 PM
-4

So then take the titanic. You wouldn’t offer a seat on a life boat for a random woman and child like the other men did?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:47 PM
1

Well most young women date men that are more or less in the same bracket as them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:45 PM
-5

That’s just inherent human nature. We are the much physically stronger sex. Let’s say you have wife and child, and some evil alien came down to earth and told you “I’m going to kill one of you.”, are you telling me you wouldn’t sacrifice yourself for the woman and the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:26 PM
-2

Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:15 PM
1

I think the ones who get blamed are the ones to just become entitled, spiteful and jealous. They become outwardly hateful and start to follow the red pill, Andre Tate and other loser ideologies like that. What’s the point of the last question? My assumption would be that most people date pretty much across the board, meaning neither up or down, just people who are in the same spaces as them and are similar
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:14 PM
-1

So no answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:07 PM
0

Well I wasn’t talking about “each man”, I was specifically talking about men online, on Reddit, in this sub, who are struggling and follow the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:06 PM
1

Let’s just grant that for sake of argument, then what? What do you expect women to do? Other clones of themselves? Lol, clearly then the only thing that would happen is that more men would die alone until the numbers balance themselves out again. If that’s you’re understanding you’re just misunderstanding me. I disagree with the red pill on every point (I’ve heard anyway). I’m a feminist, I love promiscuity, I have many male and female friends, I think men and women can do whatever the fuck they…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:05 PM
1

Perhaps sure, I mean the internet is also a new aspect affecting this, so who knows. Well back in the day, all it took was a paycheck basically (or even just force a woman against her will), but now you actually have to be semi interesting. Buhu, huge deal. Women expect more now because they can work, so either improve yourself or don’t date. Doesn’t matter either way. People will get wiped from the gene pool, and that’s inevitable. Maybe we’re moving towards a society where most people left are…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:38 PM
1

I don’t think he was transparent enough. First of all that number is only people below 30. Secondly it only counts for the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:33 PM
2

Am I? Not what my iq test shows but
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:28 PM
-4

I wouldn’t necessarily take your word for it (we have a tendency to hype ourselves up). But what do you think is hindering you then? For example, I lost my V at 14, and since then I’ve never not gotten attention from women, and been heavily involved in casual and serious relationships. Matter of fact, it’s not even me that usually approach first
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:26 PM
1

You did, I just find it to be a bit too vague without further specification. But that’s neither her nor there. Again, 63% of below 30 year olds?! Looking at the numbers you linked, that’s not to say 63% will be single indefinitely. In fact it shows that about half of them will probably end up in a relationship down the line. To me that stereotype can make sense at times. Because most average looking dudes with semi good social skills, can pretty easily find romantic interest. That’s an issue wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:24 PM
0

Do they? They’re dumb if that’s the case
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:14 PM
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Attractiveness isn’t just physical. A good looking dude can become “ugly” if he’s a shit person. Yes my comment sounds like a assumption, because it is. But I’m also honest with not actually knowing. It’s just what I’d find to be the most probable thing. So please correct me if I’m wrong and in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:04 PM
1

Well if you’re not transparent with that, it becomes dishonest. You can’t say “63% of men are single”, because the real number is 32%. So you have to add “63% of men BETWEEN THIS AND THAT AGE are single”. Well not everyone can win at life. Some people are born with illnesses that makes them die as kids etc. Some men will be way more unattractive than others, and in that case you either try anyways, or give up. Doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things anyways, since most other men don’t have …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:02 PM
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Do you think I’m right or wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:56 PM
1

I mean, yes and no, depends on the context. I’d never have empathy for a guy who ascribes to the red pill though, that I know for certain First of all, this only shows the United States… But we can use that as well, correct me if I’m wrong but it looks like it’s only 32% of adult men who say they’re single?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:52 PM
-4

Or others that would more or less fall into those categories belief-wise. But I wouldn’t put a certain percentage on it. My overall point is that, all the men I hear complaining, are doing the opposite of what they should be doing to fix their situation. That’s why I have no empathy for those dudes. Also where did you get this number? What’s it based? Age? Global? How is the study conducted as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:39 PM
-7

Very easy for me and other alike. If it’s hard for incels and red pillers, I don’t care. It probably is, but that’s their fault (the red pillers anyway)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:29 PM
-11

It’s great and extremely easy. Remember that it’s usually a certain type of demographic that spends a lot of time online, even more so Reddit. So when dudes here talk about “it’s so hard and dating is fucked” etc, take that with huge grains of salt
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:09 PM
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You’re below average
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 01:04 PM
-1

More humiliation fetish fantasy from the red pill. I like how you marked this “debate”, debate what exactly? Your “solution” that struggling men need to set the bar even higher? That totally sounds like a great idea! That way they can leave us more confident guys and girls alone
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:45 AM
5

Personally I think it’s more of a guy thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:18 AM
5

Give the point first, then I’ll evaluate if I’ll need to debunk or better explain the study after in order to counter
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:01 PM
-1

The rest of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 09:44 PM
4

No it’s not. There’s not a single credible study showing that. I’ve been through this boring discussion many time. But if you disagree, go ahead, give it a shot
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 09:44 PM
4

There’s probably truth to that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 09:22 PM
9

Yup. It’s the 1%ers (usually not even good people at that) lying to the 99% that it’s not only possible, but a good solution. They want to become the very culture they claim to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:47 PM
14

Lmfao😬 The joke writes itself. The fact that these dudes think the fucking red pill of all things is the solution is beyond ironic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:25 PM
1

Right lol… The only way I could se that working is if the woman actually likes the guy but he’s so incredibly unattractive, she herself volunteers to rearrange her brain. But on second thought, at that point technologically, the men could probably just do some cosmetic surgeries or something
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:24 PM
0

And then they also get wiped out eventually, and future humans will compose of 100% Chads, great! More attractive people for everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:22 PM
22

You guys are funny. You’re pissed at the world because women find you unattractive, so to combaten this, you turn spitefulness, entitlement and jealousy to the max🤣 “I broke my pinkie, so let’s chop off the whole arm!”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:21 PM
2

It’s not entering your head. I probably wont marry anyone, promiscuous or not. Even if I were to get married, where I live, we don’t have to legally split economy like that. Although personally I do end up more or less splitting anyways by choice. I repeat again, perhaps I would, perhaps I wouldn’t. The promiscuity aspect isn’t a relevant factor in my choice anyway. Another repetition I have to make (because your skull seems to be very thick), looking at my past experiences, wether a partner has…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:19 AM
1

Perhaps yea. I don’t know about that last one though haha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:11 AM
1

So either those guys try to find someone at their level or below, or they’ll get wiped out from the gene pool eventually I guess. I see no other realistic solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 02:31 AM
2

What that means, is that I may not marry anyone period… And that’s just marriage itself. I’ve still been in and currently am in a serious commitment. I don’t address blatant lies like that. What can I say “No I’m not!”? An accusation that is false serves no purpose in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:55 AM
1

That’s partly true, as in you can usually control these things. The tall thing is either 100% made up or true to the United States. I’m from a European country (not ethnically) and I’m way below the national average (it’s very tall). Yet that has never been to my disadvantage. There’s maybe a very small subset of women that gravitates towards “I exclusively want a tall guy”, but most aren’t absolutely not like that. Plus, a lot of those women, if they were to find Prince Charming that was perfec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:52 PM
1

So again, I refer to my prior point. Ask around. I haven’t thought about marriage period mainly because I’m not religious. But based on my experience that alone wouldn’t be a determining factor either way. Like I said, I’ve been with very non promiscuous women as well. But ofc you don’t focus on them because it doesn’t suit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 11:48 PM
0

No it doesn’t lol, that’s a big part of the general loot pool they can choose from. Ask around your friends and family how common these childlike behaviors are in modern men. I do. I’ve been in serious relationships with super promiscuous women, and the opposite. I’ve never noticed any major negative difference either way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:28 PM
6

Beautifully put. So true. It’s not news that red pillers are entitled, jealous, spiteful and angry
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:22 PM
1

Well that’s life. I’ve also been though my fair share of good and bad relationships. That goes without saying. But it’s a way superior path nonetheless, rather than becoming a spiteful, entitled, jealous and angry red piller. Also I’ve heard I’m pretty attractive so that probably helps a bit, as I’ve rarely approached women first, usually it’s the opposite. But I have a large friend circle, and one of my closest buddy’s is overweight and not typically attractive, but he’s the funniest mf I know,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:57 PM
1

Although it sounds cringy, unironically always got the “you’re not like other guys” from women, so I guess there’s some truth to that. It’s not as black and white as you or other similar men paint it up to be. For instance, a super hot guy could generally be more socially gifted, better at flirting, better at making people laugh etc than “nice guys”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:40 PM
-6

No I’m talking about being intellectually and emotionally stimulating at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:22 PM
-3

Yea, because of how lacking men are. I’m the opposite and I’ve been a natural girl magnet my whole life. Easy mode. Maybe because I was raised by two older sisters that told me a lot and I also become a feminist myself at 12~.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:19 PM
0

Ok? What’s the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:32 PM
1

Right. Women will actually praise a dude that never yells at her, doesn’t leave piss stains on the toilet ring constantly, doesn’t burp and fart whenever like a toddler, doesn’t leave his surroundings full of trash, actually thinks of her in the bedroom etc.🤣 That says A LOT (about men)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:31 PM
2

Or after he got absolutely shit on by Destiny
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:42 PM
2

I live in the inner city of the capitol of my country. Actually coincidentally also around 2m+.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 02:30 PM
3

Yet they are everywhere I walk around. I think this probably is about YOU specifically having issues, so you then think everyone else is. To me, finding romantic interest has never been easier. I think now when women actually have a choice, that leaves behind a chunk of unattractive men that would historically be able to get women with a pay check (or by force). Sorry bro, but now you actually need to be semi interesting. I’ve also noticed that these unattractive men usually have the same standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:56 PM
-1

Yup.. If you spend some time in this sub you’ll see the same pattern as I do. Red pillers have no facts or studies proving their cause, so you shouldn’t expect them to make logical points.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:12 PM
-2

Exactly. So you’re probably right that they themselves are unfamiliar with the culture. Also, the clothing thing is another point you could just grant for the sake of argument. They still lose that point. Let’s say a lot of women do wear “skin revealing” clothes, tights and whatnot… but so do men. Did everyone forget about the shoe-lace thin tank tops buffs dudes use? Or the super short shorts they use when it’s leg day? Why are all gyms literally filled with mirrors? It’s because people can che…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:50 PM
-4

Because it’s from the same men who are already angry at women (like red pillers), so it’s not based in logic hence you’ll end up confused if you look for it. They started this rumor of “MEN CANT EVEN GO TO THE GYM ANYMORE WITHOUT BEING CALLED CREEPS” to keep the vitriol amongst young, lonely men, which is 100% bs to anyone that actually regularly attends a gym. I’ve helped people, spotted people, small talked with people, flirted with people and gotten numbers at the gym, and never once got call…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:32 PM
0

So you’re basing that one this specific interaction? My experience is the opposite when it comes to red pillers. In my experience that never bring up studies or evidence (because they can’t lol), and when I disprove them or explain how they’re interpreting something wrong, they ignore. Every. Single. Time).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:51 PM
1

But it have happened to me way more times that I can remember. So now what? Your claim is wrong so where do we go from here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:19 PM
0

Sounds like projecting. I was specifically talking about romantic relationships, obviously (looking at the comment I was responding to…). That’s not to say I don’t have female friends, but those are not the ones I was referring to. So completely wrong. Also, why does any platonic relationship with a woman = emotional doormat to you? Why do you make that assumption? It’s so strange to me, like sure if you maybe want to fill such a role for whatever reason, go ahead. But I’m sure most people would…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:47 AM
0

That’s the thing they don’t understand, attractiveness goes beyond physical appearance. A mid looking guy can become a golden prince if his personality is super attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:17 PM
-2

Against the red pill, 100%! It’s all based on interacting with them, and I’ve never come across an outlier. They deserved to be shamed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:15 PM
3

Red pillers are losers, if you do some surface digging, what they all have in common is that they felt or feel undesired by women, so that perfectly explains it. Also, if you ever argue with them, they’ll never provide credible stats or studies backing their claims. And if they do, they’re understanding it wrong. They come at me, but I have no issues calling them out for the pessimistic, entitled and jealous men they are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:14 PM
-1

Unironically what women always told me, so there’s some truth to that ig
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:11 PM
7

Even the first point, women experienced that before the internet. Most of my gfs started getting adult male sexual interest from early sometimes pre pubertal age…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:37 PM
-2

Lots of men just suck. Just look at these comments. Guy gets his ego hurt = women bad. For us normal dudes, with normal social skills and looks, meeting women have never been easier
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 01:18 PM
17

Got heartbroken by a progressive woman POV
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 04:53 PM
1

What do you think I meant when I said the two examples you gave?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:29 AM
1

For someone who loves sex and respect women, this is great! Women will only become more sexually free with time, so all the jealous and entitled men who go around calling these women whores, will either have to adapt or get wiped from the gene pool🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:56 PM
1

Lmao. Dude I’m asking for clarification, haven’t even countered yet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:00 PM
1

Gahah… what studies? Give me the 3 strongest studies arguing for the red pill, I’ll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:34 PM
1

I was disagreeing with his assessment, not his experience. You’re so focused on getting me on a point, you’re not following the convo. I can’t lose a debate, it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:33 PM
1

Learn what? Sorry I don’t follow
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:31 PM
1

Yet I’ve had partners leave me because I couldn’t open up or be emotionally available. What you’re saying is another lie, given by the red pill, to keep lonely men like you in the dark forever. Good luck brother
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:30 PM
1

I’d shame any man that goes to the red pill or Andrew Tate to fix his short comings. No sympathy there. Fuck em.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:28 PM
1

That’s just the way I talk, I use lots of swear words too and whatnot. Some people have always gotten triggered by my way of speaking (since I was a child), but that’s unavoidable. If these phrases upset you, we’re probably worlds apart (because that was very light coming from me).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:27 PM
1

Who am I shaming? The person I responded to identifies as “blue pill woman”..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:00 PM
1

Like you said, my guess would be that’s it’s not only “a bit more complex” but absolutely more complex than “regardless of who the primary aggressor was blame always lands on the man”. But I’m not well read enough on these American laws so can’t give you a good counter. Maybe I’ll do some deep diving and get back with a more informative response
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:52 PM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:15 PM
1

Oh I thought that was a response to the first sentence. Alright that’s fair. My point is that, equality just means people should have the freedom to for example join the military, but then because of varying reasons, some might do that more than others. And that’s ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:14 PM
2

Oh I see. Then that’s how you should’ve phrased it, not open with the issue being about you carrying the load. The child care money is 100% logical and fair in my opinion. Women go through huge losses in failed marriages, that men often can avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:13 PM
3

So yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:42 PM
2

Yea I understand that, I’m asking why you chose to put up with that if you didn’t want to? Not taking about the legal consequences of divorce, but when in the relationship and dragging so much of economic baggage by yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:41 PM
2

Not your problem, but it’s their problem, hence people want to fix it. Would you want your military to be 50/50 men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:08 PM
1

I don’t even know what those laws are, that’s why I’m asking lol… Also, my previous reply is completely rational and logical so not sure why you have issues with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:06 PM
3

Yeah but that was your choice to support. It’s like someone saying “instead of buying fruit from the local market I had to order it online and it was 10x more expensive!”, to which the obvious counter becomes “why didn’t you buy it from the local market?”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:04 PM
1

Also, women get worse impacted by divorce. That’s a huge “for” argument. Often time she has missed years of missed career opportunities but also in the dating market, her “value” decreases if already having kids or being older. Not to mention how renting, loaning and buying stuff works when in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:02 PM
1

Only if he gives up or doesn’t put in effort. Understanding your flaw and working on fixing it is always respectable. My point is that, lots of men are like this but then also think they can’t fix it, or it’s the woman’s duty to be their mothers, cleaners, exclusive emotional outlets and so on. But a adult woman shouldn’t be imprisoned with a dude that has the same self sufficiency as a child, just because “he’s trying”. That’s her choice and right to decide
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:59 PM
2

So why did you support your wife then? Did she force you to do that for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:55 PM
2

I agree with that. Or in the sense that if a group stands for over 90% of an issue, then that’s the highest priority to solve that issue, that’s where you start. What’s your issues with those two laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:54 PM
4

What is the argument for and against that in Florida? I don’t think that’s true, women started with less rights than men (very recently), that’s probably more why you hear more about women in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:53 PM
5

If the man is fine with that or even wants that (like red pillers who not only want to stand for the majority, but ALL economy)? I don’t think number would be very high. People have this romanticized view of single moms or people on welfare that isn’t in tuned with reality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:45 PM
0

This is one of the worst arguments I’ve ever had the displeasure of debating but also debunking before, so before we get into that.. Do you think men commit more violence than women? And please estimate a percentage difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:33 PM
2

Stay on substance. See how I’m able to answer your points separately and specifically? Do the same with me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:31 PM
4

So a single mom with shit economy and 3 kids including baby, should rely on multiple low paying jobs to survive? What about the kids? Where do they go during the day? Also social programs are never going away so this example is already kind of boring because of how unrealistic it is, but we can dig a bit first
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:30 PM
2

Well let’s start with the first then, what’s the issue and what is the proposal?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:15 PM
1

I don’t think any significant portion of the population genuinely thinks “no woman can ever do a bad thing”. That sounds extremely hyperbolic or delusional. So we don’t need to “stop” with that, because it’s not happening. So anything else? Like an actual, factual example? I’ve only heard that in relation to crime, where it absolutely has validity. More than 90% of all criminals are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:15 PM
-2

Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:08 PM
-2

How can everyone fix this for men (apart from what we’re already doing)?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:03 PM
2

Check mate. Too easy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:00 PM
-2

Problem like? I need examples
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:59 PM
2

“Here” like a fly sitting on a banana during a congress meeting. Here in presence but not here engaged in the discussion at hand. “You’re trolling” is not being intellectually honest. Same with any other pre proposed assumption or personal attach
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:55 PM
0

Don’t engage in conversation you’re not capable of having next time big boy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:51 PM
0

And you’re the one that decides if I am trolling? What a convenient way of thinking. You can never be wrong then, everyone who agrees with you “great!”, and anyone who disagrees is “trolling”…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:48 PM
-4

Oh.. don’t misunderstand me, it is definitely a commonly shared sentiment, AMONGST MEN and it’s 100% in their power
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:36 PM
3

And? It’s like a couple where the dude can’t do any households, “because of upbringing”, doesn’t fucking matter, time to learn big boy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:34 PM
-1

Teachers? Daycare worker? Are you serious? They are almost too keen on boys opening up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:31 PM
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Of course it’s 100% on you. There is help you can get, but you don’t. Aka, YOUR CHOICE. Mind blown
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:49 PM
-33

Men aren’t shamed anymore, and haven’t been for the past decade. There are groups you can reach out to and numbers you can call. If you as a man feel forced to be a emotional regard, then that’s on you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:29 PM
7

Just one of the many contradictions. From what I’ve been able to conclude (just based on personal experience talking to red pillers and other men alike) they’re always either very old, ugly or very young, but they all share the experience of having felt or feel undesired by women, so they use red pill as a means of revenge for their own shortcomings. They’re losers all around that’s why nothing of what they spew makes sense or can be backed by fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:13 PM
1

Calcs?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:35 PM
2

Well women know lots of men are insecure about it, so ofc it’s the strongest insult to use
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:38 PM
1

I don’t think that’s as prevalent as you might think. I’m sure there are men with small penises in happy relationships, also we can’t ignore the fact that for most women a at least average penis would be preferable, at least I as a man would think “I rather have too much to work with than too little”. Micro penis is a genetic error at the end of the day, meaning not evolutionary optimal. So can’t blame women for this. But also “small penis” is also used more metaphorically to illustrate other ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:37 PM
1

It’s a pretty strong probability when weighing out the different theories. Why would they not prioritize the private parts? They clearly put just as much efforts into the sexual parts, pubic hairs, nipples and whatnot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:34 PM
1

Yea and it’s pretty interesting seeing the societal views of this change. Seems like it’s a pretty new concept, because for example if you look at old Greek sculptures their members were intentionally made pretty small or average looking, because they’d thought having a big penis would be seen as grotesque. And these sculptures were made to depict the apex of human physique
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:50 PM
-4

Especially if you get a lot of self value from your sex organ
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:31 PM
9

I think the issue is (from what I’ve seen anyway) dudes with serious penis anxiety either become very hostile towards women or the opposite and develop some kind of shaming kink
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:10 PM
10

It objectifies women and makes young dudes worse people
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:50 PM
3

Oh ok, sounds like typical sales manipulation tactics, and I don’t use that. In fact I see it as pretty immoral. Essentially sales tactics. So they’d have no issues with making a hormonal mess out of the girl and because they’re making them do what they want, they cope by putting all the responsibility on the woman that is being manipulated instead
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:39 PM
3

Not really. Mainly about being respectful, understanding peoples boundaries, being able to read body language, womens and mens bad cultural tendencies, and stuff like that. For example, it’s common for a young woman to be a people pleaser and to not have the courage to be 100% transparent. So if a young dude hits on a young woman and she isn’t interest (let’s say he’s too ugly) she’ll often time go “sorry I have a bf, sorry I’m not in the mood, sorry I’m lesbian, sorry I have something else to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:18 PM
1

Yes and these content creators only serve to make young people more pessimistic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:11 PM
1

Ofc it’ll be different depending on where you look. But that it would be a wide spread common default thing amongst women (like the young virgin red pillers claim) is 100% bs. Only in super concentrated materialist places like, Miami Beach or something like that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:59 PM
2

Could be half true, but I’ve never manipulated women like that. I had friends who started reading red pill when we were 12-ish and I always found the manipulation aspect disgusting. I got most of my “tips/tactics” from my two older sisters
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:57 PM
2

Any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:56 PM
2

I just learned how to socialize very early, that in combination with my appearance (from what I’ve heard) is pretty good, and perhaps my iq. Basically it all culminates in me always having the ability to be funny and charming. It has helped me to fool police, get out of dangerous situations, get friends quickly at new places etc. But the main thing is funny, if you can make people laugh, odds are they’ll want to hang out with you. Laughing = happiness. That and being a overall cool person. Women…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:25 PM
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You’re completely wrong at the very first sentence. Before women could work, all it took was a paycheck in order for a man to get a woman. You say men today need height and money, I’ve been broke all my life and I’m under 6ft, and started having casual hook ups at 14 and never stopped. Now you probably wouldn’t even believe my number. And I’ve even lived off women before (I say this in shame), so you’re just not very honest in your view
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:59 PM
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Men AND women are so hateful when it comes to this lmao. Humans enjoy looking good/sexy/hot/cute etc, and it has multiple benefits socially but more importantly psychologically. Ask dudes who rock suits why they do and how it makes them feel. So many pick-me women here who think more naked = worse person. And don’t get me started on the spiteful and jealous men, nasty
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:02 PM
3

This reads like it’s from a 12 yo red piller
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:06 PM
1

Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:46 AM
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They are more accurate is my point. In my experience, people just use it as Beta = weak/gay/unmanly/shameful, and Alpha pretty much the opposite. Why even try to describe deeper more nuanced understandings of these definitions, when we have other more well suited words for explaining these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:21 PM
1

Why use them period? Could make whatever descriptions clearer and better aligned with reality by using masculine/feminine instead
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:58 PM
2

Proven maybe isn’t the best choice of words I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:45 PM
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I’d assume it’s used ironically here, but maybe that’s not the case then? If it is the case however, then this community is less interested in truth and more interested in roll playing or whatever you’d call it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:45 PM
1

Well sure but it’s still not applicable hence the constant confusion and contradiction that always happens when applying that lease
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:31 PM
3

Alpha/Beta thing has never been proven (apart from where it originated which is in WOLF PACKS), so why are people alluding to it like it’s a real theory? It’s like flat earth
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:08 PM
1

Oh no it’s definitely not a specific and universal number, it’s an illustration, quick estimation or loose understanding to clarify the point. It’s from my own country’s crime stats btw. It’s not “making up” numbers, it’s talking normally
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:19 PM
1

Somewhat absolutely. You’re the one equivalent to a flat earther because you have all the evidence against your belief, for me it’s the opposite. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:06 PM
1

Or that yea
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:05 PM
1

You know you’re wrong substantively so you resort to irrelevant name calling, big shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:00 PM
1

“Feel that way”😂 Like I said ALL evidence dating back many thousands of years show this. And this is how being human works, we use the evidence we have to make conclusions. I can say the same thing about the existence of Santa, we see it as a fact that he isn’t real but technically it’s possible that he is, but we’d never think that way because it’s ineffective and a waste of time and brain power
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:30 PM
2

The notion that men wouldn’t be the vast perpetrators of violence still if 100% of all cases were reported and documented
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:08 PM
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The fact that you think this is completely reasonable when literally ALL evidence stands against you, means you’re either delusional or intentionally lying
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:04 PM
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Ooooh so that’s why. They exclusively report violence by men🤣 I assume the whole world (AND ALL DOCUMENTED HISTORY BTW) have operated under this inequality lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:01 PM
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I have no idea. I guess problems with nuance
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:59 PM
1

Wait what? I’m saying I don’t deny it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:59 PM
7

I already said both these things are facts. Don’t assume my answer before I give it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:53 PM
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Well if it’s true it’s true. Just because you acknowledge a fact of the world, doesn’t mean you have to use that fact to spew hate or something
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:53 PM
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I mean what’s the issue? 95% of all violence is committed by men? Saying that would just be pointing out the obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:42 PM
3

It does affect one’s view on dating and whatnot so it’s absolutely correlated. Unsuccessful men are more likely to not understand the truth, yes. That’s why most incels and anti-women men are more likely to be unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:15 PM
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Well beauty isn’t correlated to maths, so ofc it makes no sense in that context… Whereas beauty IS often correlated to one’s experience with the opposite sex. If you’re not, I’d argue you still probably are but in ways you’re not thinking about (like personality wise or socially). I’ve never met a dude who was good looking and a normal nice personality have these types views.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:46 PM
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My point is, I only see these types of pessimistic and propagandizing views from men who are below average. So you can’t tell a attractive man from a unattractive one?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:39 PM
2

How old are you? And are you attractive, average or below average?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:08 PM
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Wasn’t he convicted?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:29 PM
7

Serious question, are you either a old man or a virgin guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:53 PM
1

My reality is, so wouldn’t you be better off advocating for the same thing? Clearly it’s going that direction where you are either way (the west I’m assuming), so even if you disagree with it, it’ll still happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:47 PM
2

True. Literally just download a dating app or go to a bar, rave, festival etc. Normal people know this intuitively because they have first hand experience
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:08 PM
1

I know, because more or less I do. So why are you arguing for the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:07 PM
1

And those people are regarded losers, so what? Hitler has fans, Trump has fans etc. Doesn’t prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:06 PM
1

A huge part of that is specifically because how society has shamed them. Where you see more liberal and free societies, women who partake in casual sex increases
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:05 PM
1

Because his fans of 12 year old incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:13 PM
2

Right, and in a society like the one I’m arguing for, men would be able to get sex by just being honest and not resorting to being manipulative sociopaths
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:12 PM
1

Same thing there, go to any bar and look at the average people being flirty with each other. I haven’t called myself a Chad, you have. I’m here because of the braindead and pessimistic views from red pillers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 07:56 PM
1

Exactly. And the proof that they’re delusional is that just by walking outside you’ll see countless of average couples with very average people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 07:46 PM
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His head obviously, but even granting those fake numbers my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 07:33 PM
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And my point is that more guys would if they stopped being so sexist and judgmental about womens sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 07:26 PM
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It’s directed correlated lol… Since men generally don’t have issues with women’s sexuality, it makes them more comfortable in expressing it without the fear of being judged negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:37 PM
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Nope, just live in a society where women aren’t shamed for their sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:24 PM
0

?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:29 PM
2

Not sure what your point is here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 03:03 PM
1

Yea, as in men are extremely insecure and jealous. Fuck those men metaphorically, and fuck us other men who are decent people and aren’t misogynists literally
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:58 PM
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I’ve never had to work for it. Maybe women are more confident nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 02:55 PM
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Not sure how that first part relates to anything but ok. From what I’ve seen, this is more a issue amongst men. Maybe historically the men who complain today could attract women just by using a paycheck, nowadays you’ll actually need to be a decent and somewhat interesting person. Can’t be that? I won’t be sad seeing you drop from the gene pool tbh. Society and humanity moves forward, either adapt or fall behind. Nobody cares anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:05 PM
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I think you’re misunderstanding me here. Ofcourse I agree it’s a good and normal “preference” to have, I just think it’s weird even calling it that seeing how basic and otherwise assumed by this point it is
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:40 PM
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It’s like saying “I want a person without brain damage” as a standard. Also compromising is often due to normal manipulation, wether it’s done intentionally or not
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:10 PM
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Well duh, when you put it that way ofcourse. But like you said, that’s almost the lowest standard a woman can have. It goes without saying. So even calling it a preference/standard or something, is dishonest to me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:03 PM
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Oh I see. Strange I’ve never heard of it before then. I don’t think it’s “THE MOST IMPORTANT” thing for women these days. Society is more safe as is, and women tend to make their own money now. This sounds like a outdated take from the last century. What I’ve found to be the most sought after trait by far, is making people laugh = feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:54 PM
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Wtf is physical safety? And how can I be the most important thing when I’ve never heard of it yet have probably more experience than 90% of people here
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:04 PM
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Not everyone can win in this life brother
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:49 PM
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If you can’t secure a single successful relationship in your life, that’s the gene pool telling you something
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:51 AM
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You haven’t even presented the premise as true? Imo this is just a fear mongering from incels, sexists, virgins, red pillers and others alike
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:22 PM
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Not necessarily saying that it is the case, but there is a cultural stereotype regarding it. Also I’m not sure if it’s common worldwide
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:15 AM
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If a woman says she’s a size queen she will absolutely get shit on by men who say she is loose or whatever. What planet you live on? Also the penis thing is more because of the tendency of men with small penis issues often being bad people
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 02:41 PM
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First of all you only need to be attractive to the person you’re trying to attract. And that can be looks or personality, doesn’t matter. A guy who is very good looking but dry as a rock, will more or less have the same chances as a very plain looking guy who is a social genius. What I’ve found to be the most effective trait tho is intelligence and making people laugh. If you make someone laugh, odds are they’ll want to be around you. Regardless of sex or interest. And you quoted me yet didn’t r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:46 PM
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