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Men are convicted of crimes more often than women, some racial minorities are convicted of crimes more often than whites. Reasons aside, both are unarguable facts. It is no more inapproste to discuss one than the other and it is extremely relevant here as so many misandrists won't shut up about 'male violence'.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 02:16 AM
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Fetuses aren't peole and have no rights. If you believe otherwise I've got some pro-life buds that would love your support. Your life as a western man must be tough, I'm sure, but for millions of female fetuses in China Why are you comparing the life of Western men to the lives of Chinese women? Apples to apples Western women are the largest, most privileged class of humans that has ever existed. But you know, that based on metrics of well-being like education, health, life expectancy, suicide, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:16 PM
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This is an Apex fallacy. Most homeless people are also male.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:03 PM
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You're not wrong but this assumes that wealth is the main form of privilege. What about safety, comfort and health? Because women are better off than men along these axes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:52 PM
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It's not just about desire, but the right kind of desire. There are some things men want from women that most women can't provide, not genuinely. Men are just more sexually diverse than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:46 PM
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Doesn't matter. In one instance men's porn use is driven by women's lack of sexual desire/engagement, in the other it is due to a mismatch in things such as sexual roles or fetishes, particularly the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:41 PM
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That's your assumption. I interpret that data different, specially in light of literally having eyes and seeing the way straight couples navigate those 'joint' financial decisions. It basically amounts to 'yes dear, you're right dear'. Both women and men are so used to women getting their way that neither of them can see it. It's kinda tragic: women believe they compromise and men believe they have a say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:37 PM
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Do not project gay men's sexual dysfunctions onto straight men. The sexual dynamics for the two are nothing alike. Straight men come to prefer porn because of a lack of real desire and passion from women, gay men turn to porn because of the massively skewed sexual roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:30 PM
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"Joint spending decisions". How exactly do you think those negotiations go? What that data tells me is that either both sexes are wrong or one is... wronger. What's actually occurring here is that men think they're in control when they're not and women think they're compromising, when they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:21 PM
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Exploitative to men, let's make that clear. OnlyFans is exploitsrige to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:21 PM
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It is a fact rhat women control the overwhelming majority of household income so I am curious to know why you think the second one is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:14 PM
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Some of it is extrapolation from known science e.g. selfish gene theory, historical record and anthropology as well as personal observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 02:46 AM
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Ler me ask you this, do you believe that psychopathy is an apex gene expression? This is a meaningless question. Genes are either perpetuated or they are not, nothing else mattes from an evolutionary perspective. You seem to think that because the past was a certain way therfor the future must and will be exactly the same. That is the exact opposite of what I believe: new economic paradigms will always result in a radical cultural shift and a civilization transition. We've had three so far and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:07 AM
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Tell me with a straight face that al bundy or Charles Manson being popular with women is a sign of gene quality let alone of women demonstrating good mate selection. Why wouldn't it be? A high-quality gene is one that endures, nothing more or less. From a gene-centred view of evolution, defectors such as those possessing dark triad qualities take on a great amount of risk in exchange for a greater chance to reproduce and a greater ability to dominate competitors. But biological systems can only …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:38 PM
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You can't fight biology. If you're going to hold women as a whole responsible for what they're attracted to there's a mountain of horrific biologically-determined behaviors that men are responsible for as well. It sucks being the loser in the mating game that doesn't get to pass on his genes, but that's nothing new, it is the standard for males across thousands of species. If you want to be angry at something, be angry at nature. Women's evolved mate-selection criteria is part of what got our sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:20 PM
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It's truly amazing; a 50% increase in the last decade. We're literally observing the end of Western civilization. Those of us that are on the younger side are going to live long enough to see whatever comes next. Our world is about to become a truly weird and alien place to those of us that grew up under the old paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:54 PM
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That doesn't mean women's standards are low, they're just different from what the average Reddit nerd would like. There's a reason 30% of young men aren't getting laid/are virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 06:47 PM
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Attractiveness here is relative, specially since women have so many socially acceptable ways to fake it and you can't separate such judgements from biological reality. Women have much higher standards for men than men do for women, and for straight men, absent attraction to other guys the only way they have to gauge men's attractiveness is based off of women's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 02:59 PM
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This is a touchy subject as a gay man. Part of the new social contract that we live under is that we pretend we're not attracted to straight guys and they don't murder us in horrific ways. Women are often appalled and disgusted by men's sexuality but in comparison they're much kinder about expressing it, whether by intent or necessity. On the other hand, everything women fear of men's nature, bar rape, is imminent reality for us. My first crush ever, when I was about 10 years old, caught me look…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/21 08:23 PM
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It is. But it's the same in every other sub dedicated to nude men, even niche ones where in amazaed how straight men even find it, like say, r/malepubes or r/circumcisionfetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:27 PM
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You're assuming I'm female?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 04:02 AM
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Going by what I've seen on profile histories, yeh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 01:00 AM
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You... totally missed the point. These dick pics absolutely have a receptive audience, it's just not the women they're seeking to attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 12:09 AM
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Well it's more like normal and less attractive looking guys only get attention from gay dudes. Hence the post. But yeah there's lot of subreddits like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 12:05 AM
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I'm talking about subs where female content is explicitly not allowed, like Ladybonersgw or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 09:50 PM
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You've obviously misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 08:54 PM
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That's... not really the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 08:52 PM
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It's too obvious. I assumed there had to be something more interesting behind it. How can heterosexual guys interact with women all their lives the way they do and still think that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 08:12 PM
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Why do they think this would ever work?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:53 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:53 PM
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But the only people that are interested in seeing dick pics from regular/less attractive guys are other dudes. The very few women that browse these subs are usually ugly chicks simping for hottest guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:51 PM
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The point is women generally don't browse these subreddits, they're showing off their dicks to mostly dudes or dudes pretending to be chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:48 PM
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/thread. Nothing else left to be said here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 03:17 PM
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That doesn’t mean that professional psychological help at large is ineffective. That's more or less the impression I got when I went down that particular rabbit hole a couple years back, inspired by a post from Scott Alexander who often writes about psychology and his experiences as a psychiatrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:48 AM
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Yes. I was a sissy growing up so my female relatives treated me like one of the girls; the horrible things they would say about their husbands and men in general didn't really sink in for me until I grew up and started seeing the world more clearly. It is because of them that I grew up with the impression that women are naturally disgusted by men and their sexuality. Later on I understood that these women just settled and were using the men in their lives as work horses and had absolutely no des…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:46 AM
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The jury is out on whether therapy even works at all. Studies on it are all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 04:29 AM
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Why would anyone fight over any of this? The world population is predicted to peak at around 10-11 billion by the end of the century; we already produce enough food to feed that many people. The United States alone could feed the world if the opportunity costs made sense. Same for oil, between us and Canada we have enough recoverable reserves to power Western Civilization. And demand is only likely to decrease. BP and other energy companies have released reports claiming it's already peaked. Rar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 06:01 PM
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Those are not valid threats either, specially not for us in developed countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:25 PM
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Climate change is not a threat to technogical civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 03:20 PM
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Overpopulation is a Malthusian boogeyman. Total non-issue. Developed countries are heading towards a demographic collapse sinkhole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 06:57 AM
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So your solution to these problem is to take your conscientious, socially-aware genes out of the pool and leave the future to those that don't have the foresight or self-control to do the same? This is not a game that can be won by not playing. If you don't reproduce, others will and their children will inherit the Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 06:56 AM
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Hah. Suffering really is the best catalyst for humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 06:51 AM
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Juggernaut law. One of the most interesting thoughts to come out of incel culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 06:49 AM
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So what? Assuming this is true just cause you're hateful Diane mean you're wrong. In fact, the reasons he's wrong here have nothing to do with his mysoginy but a leak of understanding of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 06:43 AM
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Wrong. Men will fetishize anything remotely female-seeming regardless of reproductive ability or genetic fitness. This goes in hand with their hyper-competitive mating arena and quantity-over-quality mating strategies. From a gene-centered view of evolution, given that only around 40% of men will reproduce, any potential chance at offspring is worth taking as reproduction is extremely cheap for males, both metabolically and in terms of opportunity cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 06:41 AM
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That's not the 'real thing'. Come on, I'm literally a socipath and even I can understand this. It's alarming that you cannot. Men want to be desired, cherished and respected; that's not something that can be bought. They will settle for less but that's what they want an ultimately they will create a world where that is possible, one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:28 PM
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All of that in the list can be true and men can still remain worse off, because the ways they are worse off are both more numerous and far more impactful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:46 PM
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Google 'division of labor'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:26 PM
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Apex fallacy. The average woman is better off than the average man, regardless of how well a minority of men might do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:25 PM
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I'm technically an outsider in the rainbow pill debate, with little personal stake in the matter. I think a lot of what is said here is completely accurate to human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:23 PM
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Some of the qualities men and women look for in potential mates are culturally determined and some are biological in origin and sometimes it is hard to separate one from the other. There are often confluences and some qualities can act as proxies for the thing actually being sought. A good way to tease them apart, as above, is to see whether they endure over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:18 PM
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They cannot. The can pay for a very poor facsimile of it but ultimately they crave the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:09 PM
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You can't teach critical thinking skills to people that don't have the cognitive capacity to use them. Most people currently are simply too stupid to think critically. If you can't understand the point of the video, well... One of the things higher intelligence allows for us better introspection and more accurate understanding of our own limitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:04 PM
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And just like with incels refusing to have sex with prostitutes, because reasons, you're not going to replace women with robots. Incels don't want to use hookers because what they want is to be desired, respected and appreciated as men. Sex is just a physical expression of that fundamental need. Incels are the guys that are left after all currently available coping mechanisms have been tried and found unsuitable. Plenty of men DO replace women with pornography. Plenty of men DO replace women wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 08:00 PM
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It's the word the previous poster used. It's a crude form of emotional manipulation where someone attempts to link their opponent's position to something culturally taboo in order to provoke shame and derail them. If you incorporate it into your discourse it doesn't actually affect the strength of your argument but completely undermines their approach.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/21 05:21 PM
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You're comparing abnormal women in unusual circumstances to the experiences of the average man. My argument could better be worded as: for the average man's purposes, women don't like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 06:05 PM
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To believe women just don't like sex sounds a little bluepilled to me. There's several factors you're not considering here: I don't know about you, but I've seen girls who are more than happy to suck a guy's dick. When discussing these subjects always refer to the absolute average of the group you're discussing, not individuals. Outliers exist in any population. The average woman does not actively enjoy sucking dick. They might enjoy making their partner feel good but actually craving a dick in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 05:35 PM
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I don't think any Country on earth is going to maintain a high Fertility Rate unless it remains poverty ridden forever. Developing world will eventually get developed and it will go through the same cycle as the developed world. Did I claim otherwise? Well, immigrants can fill in the worker gap to keep the economy chugging. Not only does that only just kick the can down the road, it's literally vampirism. Rich countries sucking the lifeblood of poorer ones. Unless, Men can find a way to have bab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/21 05:25 PM
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I'm not going to offer my opinion on this subject but will instead ask you guys a question: What does the average man have in common with the average woman, once you take sex and associated activities out of the equation?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 05:21 PM
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"Women aren't lying, they just don't like sex all that much" [...] I personally disagree with the first idea hard Do you have any particular reason to disagree with this, beyond wishful thinking? It seems patently obvious to me. If women loved sex as men do they would act like men do in the pursuit of it. The common excuses against this argument are paper thin and only make sense if one fails to apply them universally. The perfect counterargument is gay men men's sexual behavior, in the absence …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 05:16 PM
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Excellent post. I think you've framed this argument excellently and given me a new way to think about a familiar subject. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:56 PM
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What do you want devloped countries to do, outbreed Muslims or something? You're baiting me and arguing in bad faith. It's an inarguable fact that some civilizational modes outcompete and subsume others; it's happened at least twice in the history of our species: after the advent of agriculture and then the advent of capitalism and the industrial revolution post 17th century. And what's that gonna Accomplish? In the future, we're gonna lose lots of jobs to Automation and A.I, increasing the popu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/21 03:27 PM
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We're 7 BILLION+, i'm afraid we are way past the point where we need women to be brood mares. The opposite is true. With virtually all developed countries undergoing demographic collapse the role of broodmare is more important now than ever. Having a small&well educated population is the goal. Whose goal? Speak for yourself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/21 01:09 PM
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I'm in a mostly sexless marriage. Sometimes we bring in a third but our physical intimacy mostly consists of cuddling. It's a surprisingly robust arrangement but we also went into it knowing what we were getting into, which is a bit different from your premise, OP. The geometry of human romantic relationships can be envisioned as a triangle, the tension between three fundamental needs: material, sexual and social. The ideal relationship balances the expectations of all parties across these three…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:21 PM
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There's no such thing as low value women, when it comes to sex at least. There's no woman so ugly that a certain demographic of men won't want to fuck them. Trans girls that look like Frankenstein's monster in a dress get plenty of sexual attention. Men are the definition of sexual versatility. Sexual fixation i.e. paraphilias insure that there's no source of feminity that will be left unexploited. Female hypergamy is often debated by bitter men as a source of the conflict between the sexes, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 05:26 PM
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We are actually in agreement here that most scientists are completely clueless when it comes to human research. The ones that are not are generally not the ones the average person is likely to hear from. Some, such as anthropologists and archeologists less than most, if you don't necessarily listen to what they say and just observe what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 03:51 PM
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To learn.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/21 03:11 PM
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Men's rights activism is a waste of time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/21 04:51 AM
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No problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 04:50 AM
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There's more than one way to be a pioneer; the guys that stay in their room all days having VR sex push the envelope just as much as the astronaut.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 02:07 AM
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I'm sorry our comedic skills do not measure up to your lofty standards. I'm sure there are other communities out there with humor that is more suited to your refined tastes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 11:02 PM
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But if by attractive you mean looks, here's a fun fact: men tend to have much more standardized tastes in women than women in men How could anyone possibly believe this? Men fetishize literally any imaginable quality that someone of the appropriate sex might possess. It is obvious and plain to see in the kind of porn they consume, or they kind of men that gay guys go after. That same diversity simply does not exist in equivalent media consumed by movie. This is delusional.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 09:16 PM
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Women are the main bottleneck to population growth, which makes them overwhelmingly more valuable to the community than men. There's little a woman can do or contribute to society that would be more valuable than reproduction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 09:11 PM
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It's called humor.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 09:02 PM
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I have ASPD so I genuinly don't care about people beyond a very small circle. It always cracks me up when I read these articles about how men need to protect women. Like, what's in it for me? I would understand this mindset if there was a social contract that our culture abided by, with fairness and reciprocity for everyone built in---I might not have much empathy but I can understand tit for tat. But this dynamic is completely one-sided; one party gives, the other takes. Women are so lucky neur…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/21 09:00 PM
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It would be the ideal outcome. But I fear biological women have no incentive to change and no biological precedent for doing so. It might be like expecting the sun to revolve around the Earth. It's part of the reason I predict men will move on; there's nothing for them here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:44 PM
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There is no formula. Of course there is a formula. The only people that think humans are infinitely complex, mystical beings beyond our ken are idiots or hucksters high on their own supply. The nature of people couldn't be more clear. Don't confuse ignorance and self-delusion for substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:27 PM
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People have had it up to fucking here with complain posts about short man struggles Yet every issue that women think is important seems to get national attention, even when it's utterly ridiculous or an outright fabrication. If any one sex can be linked to a penchant for childish tantrums over irrelevant bullshit, I wouldn't say it's males---regardless of their height.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:20 PM
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As much as it is out of an engineer's control whether the bridge he designs will collapse. Hint: most bridges don't collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:16 PM
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You can't control whether anything you do works. Even an engineer can do everything right and his bridge might still collapse. But you can get pretty damn close. Social engineering is no different than structural engineering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:39 PM
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Why would you assume I'm a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:37 PM
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I get what you are saying, with the advent of modern technology women can basically do anything a man can do. They absolutely can. Women are the perfect, boring average; not particularly intelligent but not particularly stupid, risk-averse and predictable but also not as prone to a myriad of catastrophic failure modes that more commonly affect men. They won't do the same things men do, because it's not in their nature. Look at, for example, the gender spread in the rates of participation in STEM…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:36 PM
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You put yourself first always and learn what makes people tick. Everyone has weaknesses and blind spots.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:24 PM
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perhaps women are just smarter than men lmao. Intelligence has nothing to do with it. Men are women are intrinsically different, by the nature of our biology. We're different physically, mentally, emotionally and hormonally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:20 PM
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Men don't enjoy being lied to, but they don't want honesty. What they want to is to be loved and sexually desired for who they are, which is an impossibility for a good chunk of the male population. This puts women in a uncomfortable situation where there is simply no right answer. Being the gatekeeper of sex might sound awesome from a man's perspective but it's probably actually painful for women that aren't sociopaths and don't enjoy emotionally torturing other human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:17 PM
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You can't control whether other people like you or how they treat you. Yes, you absolutely can.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:12 PM
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I'm glad you found it interesting. I often hear from romantically disgruntled straight friends that we gays have it so easy, they jokingly tell me they wish they were gay after a woman does something awful to them or when they can't get laid. But just like with straight relationships, while being the party with all the sexual capital is awesome, being the worthless, disposable one really sucks and you don't get to decide which one you end up as. For straight people it's a 50/50 chance, for us it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/21 04:31 PM
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I derived it from first principles by calculating doubling times at replacement fertility levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 02:54 AM
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But that’s because the gay community is very hellbent on emulating straight sex and a good part of them refuse to act outside the box. The sex we like is intrinsically linked to our biological nature, the blank-slateism of your post is exactly the kind of pervasive 'lie' that that I'm talking about. A good chunk of who we are and what we like is determined by our genes and early development before we ever make our first choice as rational agents. It's also a lie in another way, because plenty of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/21 06:00 PM
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I can honestly say that, yes. In an environment of sexual abundance, which most straight men never experience, some guys will go for better looking partners but just as often also go for a larger quantity of the partners they were already getting before. And that's not even getting into the fact that men, due to things like fetishes, are extremely diverse in terms of what they find sexually stimulating. If anything they might be pickier in terms of sexual compatibility, of which looks is only a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:55 PM
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So do you think these 'settled' relationships are just doomed to not work then? Even if the emotional compatability is there? My marriage is solid in spite of this, so my take on that might be biased. But my background is from a poor country where people have different expectations of what a happy marriage should be. My husband might have a more interesting take on the subject. I think he's just glad to have a partner in crime to take on life with, just as I am. But we haven't had sex in... I do…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/21 05:04 AM
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I don't know how interesting this would be to a straight dude but the reason gay men struggle so much with relationships is not because of promiscuity, we're actually pretty decent at maintaining open relationships unlike heteros. It's because most gay couples have little sexual chemistry and we basically settle for each other. The majority of gay men are sexually submissive and/or bottoms and there's not enough dominant/Top guys to go around. The competition for these guys is absolutely brutal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/21 02:10 AM
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One of the first truths you have to come to terms with is that people simply don't give a shit about men's suffering in any shape or form. Most guys grow up under the delusion that they're human beings, worthy of the same compassion and respect as 'real' people and are hardly ever disabused of the notion no matter how much they're used, trampled and discarded. I'm telling you this so you avoid falling into the same pit I did when I was younger and got involved in MR activism. Walk away. The only…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 04:26 PM
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I don't know whether I was oblivious, ignorant, or just plain stupid, but when I was younger, I was a big 'idealist' as far as dating and relationships were concerned. The world is not as we are told. Almost everything people around you say and believe is a lie or based on a lie. Parents lie to their kids instead of preparing them for the realities of the world and kids often reject the truths they hear in the face of overwhelming social pressures to conform anyway. We grow up lying to ourselves…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/21 04:20 PM
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People treat dogs like emotional fleshlights, they're basically the junk food equivalent of genuine human social connection. Costant validation without having to put in any effort or face the possibily of rejection. It's not surprising that dog culture in this country has exploded as our society is imploding on itself and people are more isolated than ever. We're not going to agree here, we have fundamentally different ideas of what dog should be to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:18 PM
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Un neutered male dogs are fucking annoying assholes anyway. Funny, I've heard the exact same sentiment from radical feminists about men and testosterone. Humans constant need to bend other beings to their will without regard can be disgusting. It's how we ended up with abominations like Pugs. There's nothing wrong with intact male dogs; they act as is their nature. If that's not acceptable to you, don't have dogs. Shelters are full of dogs nobody wants because people don't spay and neuter Shelte…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 06:03 PM
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Uh huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 03:15 PM
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You're funny. One would almost think you're serious. But for the record, police killings are absolutely not reason's black life expectancy is lower. It cracks me up when people point to bad outcomes in their favorite victim groups and claim is because of patriarchal/racist/whatever-the-fuck discrimination and then turn around and blame their outgroups for their own suffering. Could it be that people in red states are poorer and are systematically neglected by the government leading to access to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 02:52 PM
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Our male dog is on supplemental testosterone and the next one after it dies (Great Danes don't live very long) is not getting neutered. The only reason this one is was because he was a rescue. He's got slightly wonky back legs because of early malnutrution and the added muscle from testosterone has helped stabilize his movements greatly and will help his bones density too. The solution to unwanted stray is better catch and euthanisia programs. Shelters are basically full of dogs no one wants any…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 12:33 PM
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Aides sometimes 'take care' of up to 30 residents, depending on how indepdent they are. It's not the kind of job you can perform if you can't compartilize your feelings. You basically have to treat your patients like animals get treated at factory farms. Don't blame the workers, they're rationally responding to the incentives they're given and they need a paycheck to feed their own families. In my area 90% of them are Haitian immigrants. It's literally one of the lowest paying, lowest status job…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 12:14 PM
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points to life expectancy of black people Does that mean...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 12:02 PM
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Who said it was a 'solution'? Cultures change as a result of internal and external pressured, period. You're free to not participate; many men will choose to do the same: either remaining celibate, playing the field if they're attractive enough or attempting to gain and maintain a wife in the traditional matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 06:45 PM
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I desperately need that. My pot tolerance is way too high!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:46 AM
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Good luck friend. People like you have the duty to preserve the cultural and philosophical legacy of our species in living form. That's a huge responsibility!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:07 AM
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Thanks for the link friend, will grab a drink now and watch. I think you more than any poster that has replied so far understand where I'm coming from. We are in agreement here. I think the future as I see it need not necessarily be ugly or destructive. As always technology is what we make of it. Give outcast men something to live for and they will have something to preserve, improve on and perpetuate. That's how civilization is built---even if in this instance it is unconventional. Men are buil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:01 AM
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I do not disagree with you. My post attempts to map how it will start, but not how it will end. Change happens first at the fringes, where the memes of the dominant culture break down. Undesirable men are the canary in the mine for what's to come, they have little invested in the status quo so will be the first ones to reject shaming and go full in, turning their backs on the current world for good. Normie guys will attempt to straddle the fence at first and live in both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:52 AM
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I'm sorry buddy. I hope you can find some comfort inn this life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:44 AM
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It's a thought experiment, it means what the participant wants it to means because that's the point; as our technology increases we have more and more freedom to modify ourselves at higher and higher resolutions. For the purposes of my original argument the ideal person would actually be one that is mentally and hormonally male but physically female in the ways that matter, up to including the ability to give birth if they choose. That is actually trivial and I expect to see if in my lifetime; a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:37 AM
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When things necessarily revert to more local with much less government welfare net, women will realize that a man that loves them and takes care of them is not such a bad option after all. I guess we will see whether that happens. I'm not convinced by the collapse argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:30 AM
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Nope. In its three thousand years China has rarely ventured beyond its borders, they have always been an inward looking people deeply tied to their land with a natural disdain for the outside world. They will, and have, used soft economic imperialism but they have absolutely no need for conquest. China moving to secure it's borders and its interests in the South China Sea is completely rational and expected. Only Americans, who think they should have the power to decide what happens on the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:26 AM
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Absolutely. There are always holdouts to the dominant culture, whether by choice or practicality, look at the Amish or hunter-gatherer tribes. The risk to that is the prospect of falling behind technologically and turning you into a vassal of more powerful forces, depending on them for survival and the means to interact with the rest of civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:19 AM
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That's your personal choice, as much as anyone can choose to feel anything. It doesn't really affect anything but you and those in your immediate environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 06:16 AM
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It's absolutely a generational thing. The generation of men that might identify more with their online life than their real world one might already be here (Alpha)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 12:33 AM
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They can have back to back orgasms, come on. Wouldn't mind seeing what that's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 12:17 AM
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No doubt. The future is post-human.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 12:15 AM
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If you want to. I don't know about you but I'll certainly want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 11:41 PM
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Wireheading is a failure state of society, but only if it becomes widespread. We're still going to lose millions of people to it but the ones that are left will be increasingly psychologically hardened against the temptation. I expect there will eventually be methods you can employ to protect yourself against it, like cyber-methadone slash firewall for your brain. Put it this way: I could easily and cheaply score some heroin right now if I wanted to. The barrier to entry for wire heading tech mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 11:13 PM
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Uploading tech would and rejuvenation medicine would give us a lot of breathing room. Also, think of it this way: If 99% of the people alive today died out, the ones left behind would be the hardcore breeders. In... 300 years? We'd be back at today's population level. The human race is under no no threat of extinction from low birth rates. It's the economic impact that is the actual threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:57 PM
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And sex is a big market since time immemorial Getting bigger all the time these days. OnlyFans culture was a bit of a black swan for me. Obvious in hindsight, cam girls have been a thing for years and years. I guess we'll see how it goes in a few decades. I expect good or ill it won't take too much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:28 PM
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Reproduction was always going to keep decreasing regardless. We're already below replacement level, any more fucked than this is a technicality---outcome is the same. Either technology will swoop in to save the day or we will die out. Our species has been at this crossroad many times before. We thought ourselves out of the hole before and hopefully we can do it again. We are so close to home base now; just need a handful of end-game techs and we will never have to worry about survival again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:25 PM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:21 PM
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I am optimistic about the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:20 PM
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Yup. For some reason that got the ol' gears turning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:18 PM
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Use your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:18 PM
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I'm glad to hear you've found a place for yourself. If I'm right it will get easier. Hang in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:49 PM
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Ithinks this little exchange has run its course. Thanks for the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:45 PM
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Hmm I have to think about that. Off the top off my head I would say we're heading towards a really horny post-sexual civilization. Imagine us as currently having Chimp culture and kinda looking at Bonobo culture and thinking, "damn, wouldn't that be nice." I think we're headed towards sexual post-scarcity---relationships and such are a different matter---and the way we humans think, if something is not scarce then it's basically worthless. We'd be to sex as fish are to water. Probably healthier …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:42 PM
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Thanks friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:39 PM
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Hard disagree. We're diverging into thousands of mutually unintelligible new cultures that will fuck off away from each other as soon as they get the first chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:20 PM
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2 billion years of sexual evolution and 2.5 million years of human evolution is not going to be overturned by a few hundred years of technology. Of course it won't. What do you think got us into this mess? Just because both sexes are doing what evolution shaped them to do doesn't mean that they're actually cooperating. Cooperating is incidental. Google 'sexual antagonism'. Why would men and women diverge? That's completely contrary to survival of species. There's nothing more harmful to the surv…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:13 PM
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That said isn’t there possible “market corrections” that will be coming to the sexual marketplace that we can’t necessarily anticipate today? Of course. Like I said above predicting the future rarely amounts to more than 'things will end up the way they're headed'. If you're clever you can see more of the moving parts than most but it's still going to be hard to anticipate a pigeon shitting on the gears.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:07 PM
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I would say the preferred mating strategy of low value men is to aim for the ugliest chick he can get it up for to avoid competition and cuckolding. Sexual fetishes are probably a way to open up new markets for exploitation. If you want to see what men's sexual nature truly looks like without the tempering influence of women, look at gay culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 09:00 PM
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I agree with these. Men and women interact with technology different, they have different consumption habits. I don't see why it would be any different here. I addressed divergence from men's side of the issue and related specifically to sex, because it's a subject of interest to me but there's going to be just as much coming from the other direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:53 PM
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To me, 'human' is any self-aware being that has human values i.e. the values that an animal that evolved as a social primates might be expected to have, as opposed to the values that a species of sentient crocodiles might. So, if you have an AI baby in the matrix with your AI wife, the child will be human by my standards. Well, post-human.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:49 PM
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Awesome movie, pretty realistic portrayal of a friendly AI. Ex Machine is one of my favorite AI films on the not so friendly side.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:45 PM
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But why would male and female cultures diverge if more and more people are switching between male and female identities at will? My argument is that men have an incentive to switch. You're piggybacking on my premise to support your assumption that women will too, without supporting that claim in the same way I have. Start there. Also, even if women do switch, your argument relies on the assumption that they will do so for the same reason men will. Elaborate on that. In order for women to fit in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:11 PM
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SJW bullshit side, this is one of the best replies so far, so thank you. You mean how will women becoming men prevent women's divergence from men? I assume that women's intrinsic drives are different from men's. You will obviously disagree with that so we're kind of at a stand off. You're making the mistake that male sexual expression as it exists now is how it must occur in nature and in the future. Some parts of it are cultural, some are flexible and some are biologically fixed. We can't know …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:43 PM
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Humanity will always take the easy way out. So if prostitution is cheaper than VR—it’ll win out. I went to a prostitute once. Felt pathetic. For me prostitution is not a viable alternative, but VR porn would be nice. (mind you I'm married) As I said in my OP, there is never just one true future, there are multiple futures for different people, all occurring at once. That's how cultures diverge. Any philosophy could potentially sweep the table if the legs get weak enough. And while it’s easy to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:37 PM
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As it is defined in the studies I quoted. No sex since age of majority/no sex for the last year.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:32 PM
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As you can see, married people have more sex than anyone else. So these younger men will get married,and the sexless numbers will decrease. Wanna bet? Let's revisit this topic in 10 years. Your link is an ideological hit piece meant to discredit incels. It puts that bias right on the subject, supported by premise as shaky as this post except at least I'm honest enough to admit I'm basically reading tea leaves. The people that are getting married are those most suited for marriage. Divorce rates …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:32 PM
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You're LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:24 PM
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I have never once, except in this thread, used the word 'incel' in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:15 PM
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Some would. Specially anonymously and specially if they're massively hotter than anything they can realistically get in real life from real women. Plenty of men already fuck trans chicks, they just will never dare to be seen with them on the street and will definitely not bring them home to mom. That's mostly a generational thing though. VR if other options were available? As I said, a lot won't, but for some men the authenticity of having a real person on the other side will matter. Others will…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:14 PM
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what' wild is that you have apparently completely dismissed that women would do the same thing. How would they do it in such a way that prevents divergence? That is the point of my post. If people are just fucking people they find attractive since, if it's ever a problem, they can swap out genitals like we currently buy electrical adapters when travelling abroad, then labels like 'gay' or 'straight' or 'man' or 'woman' fail to have much meaning. Bodies are disposable, minds are not. Men will rem…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:04 PM
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A single aging, childless Japanese geneticist provides more value to humanity than ten thousand Nigerien dirt farmers. Humans are not interchangeable. It's also just kicking the can down the road; if you take people away from other countries you create a vacuum there. Eastern Europe is an example of how immigration to wealthier EU countries is making their population crisis worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:54 PM
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I never made any claims about what counts or does not count as an incel. If you refer to my original post you'll see I simply referred to a large increase in sexlessness over a roughly 12 year period.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:53 PM
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I mean they are a "lot more common" only due to the relative perception created by history - they were persecuted in past - fair point - and now a lot more of them are free to express themselves, yes, but still, if you take 100% of population even if all of them come out right now, they will be statistically a minority. It doesn't matter how many they are if they get to influence what men expect from women sexually, and they will, because it is literally the nature of their hyper-competitive sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:51 PM
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There's two relevant bits of data for surveys I'm thinking of. Men who haven't had sex since they turned 18 years old and men that haven't had sex in the last year. If I remember correctly both are roughly the same for men under 30. If you're going to make shit up at least come up with something clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:47 PM
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No, I will not. Just because they're unmet doesn't mean it's women's responsibility to do so. Others will be more than happy to take up the burden I expect. It makes little difference either way to my argument. And you're bitching about something that has nothing to do with my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:45 PM
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That might be the case but the numbers are pretty clear. We're not making enough babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:43 PM
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but i don't see the human imperative to reproduce biologically ever going away. humans won't want to let their own creations "win". Forgive the rudeness but are you fucking blind? Virtually every developed country and a good chunk of developing ones have below-replacement level fertility. We're literally undergoing demographic collapse and, if nothing changes, won't be able to afford to care for all the old people with our shrinking populations. Plenty of people want to fuck, far fewer people wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:34 PM
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Your words are enough friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:31 PM
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It doesn't take super advanced technology to get men to make the switch. Cheesy internet porn is enough. Women are that bad at fulfilling men's desires. Like most technological change, it will be gradual and obviously a lot of men won't be into it right away; they might require more sophisticated tech or different configurations. As I already said, this post is about those that are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:29 PM
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Why would repressed straight men suddenly find cock satisfying? Wait, what? Why would they be interacting with cocks at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:27 PM
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50 percent of men are sexless? You guys are just making shut up now 50% increase over previous decades. I hope this is some Machiavellian way to get me to say something uncharitable so the mods have a reason to sodomize me with the ban stick...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:25 PM
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Works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:23 PM
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This is dependent on men, untrue for women I never said it had anything to do with sex on women's part. It takes two clasps to hold a chain together, if one fails, the chain breaks. The result is the same regardless. Sex is the breaking point for men, for women it was no longer having to rely on men for resources---or rather, leveraging male gynephilia to gain access to men's resources without giving anything in return as men still subsidize women. The VR thing doesn't play out solely based on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:22 PM
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I am enlightened. 🤯
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:16 PM
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I agree with you. More freedom for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:13 PM
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This is a bit out there. I don’t think there are as many closeted trans/gender dysphoric/gender indifferent people as you are postulating. I never made such a claim about transgender identity or dysphoria. I said a lot of people don't have a strong internal sense of gender and would not feel dysphoric if they found themselves in a body of the opposite sex. I've heard it referred to as the 'pill test'. If you could take a pill and wake up as the opposite sex tomorrow, knowing it could be just as …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:11 PM
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And average men don't have it as bad as they love to say they do, they just have too high standards. Even better for my argument. An AI girlfriend can meet all of your standards, regardless of how strict. Nothing significant is going to happen, if it did, it would already be happening by majority of people switching to VR VR today is extremely primitive. You're forgetting something though, it already happened: with internet porn. There are countless of guys addicted to internet porn to the point…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:04 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:51 PM
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The future doesn't bode well for anyone who isn't already part of the ruling class(es). I strongly disagree with this premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:48 PM
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Why would men turn into women if they are able to fulfill their urges as virtual men? Think of it as a series of nets, each one with smaller holes than the last. If the first net doesn't catch you, the next one downriver might. Some men will not be satisfied with a robot girlfriend and won't be able to convince themselves that it's 'real' enough. That might not be you, but these men exist. They want real interactions with other human beings. As I said, a lot of people don't really have a very st…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:46 PM
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That was not a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:35 PM
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Crazy how the ultra libs went from “my sexuality is none of your business” to “if you lesbians don’t choke on this girldick then you’re a transphobic bigot”. You don't have to identify with the current trans movement to hook up with another guy using VR female avatars. It's just a rational outlet for frustration and social isolation. I use the word 'transbian' here for convenience and humor. Most guys that end up going this route will probably not do so because of deep-seated gender dysphoria, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:34 PM
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OK, you do that. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:20 PM
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The idea of cvilization collapse is often a fantasy for certain types of men that fail to thrive in the modern world. Ironically the type of men that would be most vulnerable to escapism. I have little reason to believe a third world war is imminent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 05:15 PM
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Irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 04:55 PM
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"A substantial number of men in the near future will choose to express their sexuality in radical ways that do not include biological women." "Men and women will continue to diverge sexually in the near future, facilitated by emerging technologies." How's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 03:22 PM
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Interesting you should say that, I've been catching up with queue. I recommend: Hive Mind: How Your Nations IQ Matters So Much More Than Your Own - Garrett Jones Superintellige: Paths, Dangers, Strategies - Nick Bostrom Private Truths, Public Lies - The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification. In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters with Addiction - Gabor Maté Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community - Robert D. Putnam Progress - Ten Reasons to Look Forward t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 02:55 PM
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What exactly does that mean and where is it on the subreddit rules? Nowhere in my post did I ask anyone to "critique my theory". I simply wrote about something and shared it with the community in case anyone wanted to talk about it. Would it really make that much of a difference if I wrote "This is how I think sex will be in the future, CMV"? I'm more than happy to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 02:40 PM
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Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 02:26 PM
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Personally, I'll be just fine whatever happens so I'm not too concerned with changing the world, not that I think I could if I wanted to. But the poster I replied to seems to think that guys calling each other simps online can somehow turn back the clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 02:25 PM
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The reason I'm saying this is because when I turned 25 I realized what I had realized all those years ago; that with me if there is a substitute for human interaction that can simulate the things I like about interacting with others and remove the rest of the other shit; please for the love of god invent it! still to this day I buy plenty of multi player games but only those with AI and bot opponents so I can play alone since it's always been more fun that way for me. And I can say confidently I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 02:16 PM
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You might be the last generation in your country with that option. Make the best of it and prepare your sons for what's to come as best you can. We're in the middle of another technological revolution and it's going to leave the world unrecognizable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:55 PM
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That's the most obvious outcome, which is why I put it first on my list. There's never just one future, though. Different men will do different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:50 PM
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But the good news is I think the next generation gives no fucks cuz they got nothing to lose. They see the way women branch swing and men cope with videogames and booze. They ain’t doing that shit. They slut shame by calling out chicks online, they openly call guys that try to white Knight for scraps of pussy “simps”... it’s savage out there if you’re acting immature in the Gen Z dating world. It’s crazy to think about, but Gen Z’s anti-woke group might be the type of no fucks given people we ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:49 PM
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For some people, sure. Refer to the aforementioned hunter-gatherers above.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:39 PM
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You can't escape it. Just look at the developments in Saudi Arabia in the last decade. Patriarchal cultures are zombies, they died in the 17th century with Capitalism and got double tapped by the industrial revolution. Capitalism necessitates consumers and women are the perfect consumers. Not to mention two wages are better than one, as far was Amazon is concerned. The only reason your country looks like a holdout is that it's simply behind the economic curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:37 PM
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So far, “not fuckwombs” seems to be winning over “fuckwombs”. What do you mean by this? By the numbers I'm seeing, women are still pretty much in the 'fuckwomb' camp in terms of productivity, they're just really bad fuckwombs on top of being bad at everything else. Though I do have to say that IS changing; young women now outearn young men. Mostly due to the fact guys are checking out of society. There’s also 8 billion of us; I see no danger of running out of humans. A Japanese geneticist in Osa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 08:46 PM
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Ah yes, the "women were actually oppressed sex" theory. It took thousands of years from the advent of agriculture for societies to transition to the patriarchal cultures that are most successful under that paradigm. Literally every other type of culture failed to compete and was subjugated or subsumed. There's a reason different civilization models only managed to survive in remote places like the Himalayas. In hunter-gather societies women provided more value to their tribes and their way of li…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 07:47 PM
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I think you've misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:17 AM
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All men, as a class? Men care more about female suffering than they care about their own, and certainly more than women care about men's---and it's not even close. If most guys actually were apathetic to women's problems, like you seem to be implying, women would starve to death by the millions. Most men are simps, by nature. Men built a civilization where women literally leech off of their labor and they know they will get little in return, even now in this age of cushy office jobs women in dev…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:00 AM
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How is this my problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 12:35 AM
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Rearing has very little impact on how kids turn out. Most of it comes down to genetics and extraparental environment, which you can't control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:54 PM
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and have to receive anal a lot if you don't enjoy it. The STI thing is true but this is wrong. The overwhelming majority of gay men are bottoms and strict tops---men that only prefer to penetrate---are basically the Chads of the gay world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 05:06 AM
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Like I said subs like this are basically just a place to complain and channel men's frustrations in a way that is safe to the status quo. Women get things by complaining, men either have to fight for it or invent solutions. Any movement that tells guys they can get what they want by shouting really loudly is a waste of time. No one cares about what men have to say. Remember that men are builders and problem solvers. Once you understand this it's easy to tell apart effective movements vs. venting…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:52 PM
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You'd have gotten piled on even worse in a dating sub. The truth is that there's very few places where your experiences can be discussed because people don't want to hear what you have to say. The idea that women's choices are one of the primary reasons for men's lives being terrible is verboten -- much easier to blame it on a cadre of feminists influencing out culture than pointing the finger at the privileged sex. Subs like this are a pressure valve not an actual vehicle for improving men's li…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:28 PM
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You're not going to get much sympathy in this sub. They're generally more concerned about issues they feel men should care about instead of listening to the thoughts and desires of actual dudes. To them you're a political liability.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 06:14 PM
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Good people get angry and frustrated. Sometimes rightfully, sometimes irrationally. That's a perfectly normal part of being a human being. Your standards towards OP are unreasonable and would disqualify most people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/21 05:53 PM
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Boys need male role models and authority figures. Female teachers and women in generally have been consistently shown to favour girls while male readers are generally fair. In-group bias is stronger among women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/21 08:38 PM
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Humans are naturally gynocentric so there's very little chance of that. Hell there's little chance that any pro-male movement will succeed for that reason alone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/21 10:17 PM
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When did men become so terrified to tell the women in their life to shut the fuck up? I can't imagine my sister, mother, niece, aunt's etc. getting into my business like that. They know better.
/r/MensRights03/01/21 04:17 PM
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If it was a man doing something similar you would have pressed charges. This is why MRA will always fail. Straight men find it impossible to deviate from their women-worshipping wiring.
/r/MensRights03/01/21 04:14 PM
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Men, as a class are better at my given thing because individual men within that class specialize in that niche at much higher rates than women do. That genetic variability has a cost but that's besides the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:52 AM
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They're men. They will never be anything but men and fall squarely under that classification. Also, you're being dishonest by saying it's just a "select few men". It's a small demographic but not really a handful of guys. Men are generally better than women at most tasks but it's never all men, always a small minority because men are specialists and women are generalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:49 AM
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Why would you omit them? They're still men. I said women as a class didn't pay taxes while men did. Each of those men subsidize scores of economically unproductive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:44 AM
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While that's somewhat true but reductionist and doesn't invalidate my position at all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:40 AM
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We're talking about net tax contributors as a class, no who has a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:36 AM
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Women don't pay taxes. They live off of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:27 AM
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That sounds like backwards reasoning to me. Yes, every person is fallible but when someone I respect believes something my instinct is to also re-evaluate my position, not just dismiss them. Karen's a smart woman I doubt her brain turns off when discussing American politics.
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