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To me the expiration date is when the sexual experience is crazy proportionally aka too many soul ties too much dating around, things like that. That's when we're not gonna be compatible because of a type of "life experience". I'm 25 and I'd date a 40 years old with a few serious relationships. Alternatively I am going to reject a girl my age with a HU and tinder past immediately and yes consider her ability to love me properly "expired". I think this type of experience poisons your ability to. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:28 PM
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I mean... Case study : I had this friend, she had 2 long term relationships, the men were above average decent career, but still "normal". Then she got delusional because she got attention on tinder from "top tier" guys, then she kept chasing that tier, entrepreneurs and athletes with 6 packs. That girl hasn't been in a relationship for 5+ years now, all delusionships where she was at worst used or at best completely ignored when she chased them for months. Once she had found a great looking guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:34 AM
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No, a lot of women are just completely delusional about their value because they get entertained by men who wouldn't claim them publicly. They then mistake that as their true value and pursue that league. I had mostly female friends with insider "gay best friend" (I'm a bi guy and dated mostly men at that time) status for most of my life. Their dating standards are often inflated and they tend to go by the best man who's ever showed interest. I don't blame them btw men would do the same if it wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:29 AM
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Tell me why 5'11 = no vs 6' = yes isn't arbitrary, because genuinely I don't understand
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:36 AM
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No but the takeaway here I believe is in the difference between women's criteria VS men's. Women's are sometimes based on completely arbitrary benchmark set by social media/peers/social optics to the point it sometimes begs the question : "Do YOU want this or is this for your socials and female friends' validation?" Nobody is shaming women who are into tall men into dating 5'5 men, what's being said is "the number 6' is a vanity number". 5'10, 5'11 could do. That's NOT the same thing as telling …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 08:24 AM
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I agree but they also need to stop giving attention to women they know they'd never date and just want to discreetly hookup with. That, or be honest about their intentions. This is the main fuel of women's dating delusions imo. The men know they will never want anything public facing with these women yet stay opaque about their goals to gain sexual access and then dip. Cue "he has avoidant attachment" + "he was emotionally unavailable" and other psychobabble + now being convinced 8/10s is their …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:06 AM
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The premise is pretty unrealistic. If you are the type to wait until marriage you simply have no business in the modern dating landscape and you know it. She wouldn't go to dateS. The concept of "dates" in its modern dating iteration of "trying multiple people out in a non-committal way" is repulsive to people with this mindset. Source is myself and like-minded friends with these values or adjacent. I cannot name one that ever went on dateS in the tinder way. We're mid twenties a lot are engaged…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:49 PM
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My point is that bad is a spectrum, and that spectrum ranges from "not your type but all around average" to "by all qualifiers unattractive and would completely derail your life". For the average woman, it's distributed all over the spectrum. I'm not saying women don't have any garbage options. But for the average man, it's concentrated on the worst side because 1) women date up 2) volume. While I'm not telling to date anybody they don't 100% want, I wouldn't, it's different to have a fridge ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:17 PM
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Yes there is I know 2 who do it. You have to be decently attractive but above all very niche and cater to a specific audience/fetish. One's basically an archetype of the wattpad booktok fantasy guy. The other is pretty much asianphilic women bait. There's a fetish around asian men who look like him. But yes these guys don't do gay content.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:22 PM
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The difference is non-options for women are 100s of average life "boring" guys and non-options for men are like <5 complete liabilities. Ranging from no job completely broke to crazy lifestyle to single mom looking for a substitute baby dad. Note I mentioned looks nowhere here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:10 PM
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No we wouldn't do that because we could do it right now if we wanted this. Let's stop acting like men cannot be porn star sugar babies, women absolutely want to pay for us. Some of us. It's 2025 the ones of us who aren't 45 fat and balding can easily open an OF and make money. A content creator friend of mine makes absolute bank and he doesn't cater to gay men. I had a ex gf who wanted to get me in the porn industry with a legitimate offer on the table ( won't even explain how it got to that poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:48 AM
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Bi guy with mostly female friends here. I'd say 70%. It's not women friends that are the problem for guys. It's being friends with male-centric women. It's then letting these women use you as a non-threatening desexualized male affirmator. You don't need to not be friends with women, you need boundaries. I make it very clear I'm not a gay guy/their new gay best friend and thus, some topics are off limits. That no I don't want to hear about their period and sex life, this isn't appropriate with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:37 AM
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I think money factors in a little but not massively (basically it does when the lack thereof affects the ability to maintain looks but otherwise not), you can know your tier by seeing how people treat you. Personally I know I'm upper end of average maybe a 6/6.5 overall. Why ? Women will actively pursue me IRL ,I get favorable social treatment (aka free shit, care and attention) but I also do get some amount of rejection when I do the pursuing. So cannot be above 7 (golden zone), have to be abov…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:25 AM
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I mean I've witnessed it IRL, my ex best friend was that type of woman. Always expecting crazy things from men while not matching up to what she asked, then crashing out when it went nowhere. Don't get me wrong she was doing ok in life pretty cute, but she expected tech rich guys and athletes. All her relationships were basically getting used for sex and strung along. She was in a relationship with them in her head, but they weren't in a relationship with her basically. She was turning down guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:15 PM
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It's not looks, it's league. The same league contains people who look very different from each other, they're just socially perceived as equally attractive. Also good taste I only like fem men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:01 PM
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Genuinely nobody does I promise you, this is outdated. A lot of gen Z men are now facing the same beauty standards you women have done for years - look at looksmaxxing and stuff. We know we need to look a certain way to get who we want. I think it's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:56 PM
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I think it's both, I've lived it with women (and also with men, but gay/bi men so it works differently). Seen it in my friend group as well, and I'm mostly friends with women. What differs often is what the delusional entitlement is about, basically lifestyle/income when it's women, and looks when it's men. I couldn't explain it, it's just the pattern I've noticed. The girls going for guys way above their tax brackets, the guys going for girls who are way out of their league. Then "women only wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:50 PM
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Anything that they aren't themselves if and only if they act like they are entitled to the standard in question. Aka acting entitled to a financial situation that they aren't even striving for (jobless with no ambition wanting a 6fig man), a specific beauty standard but not even being any close to it (obese wanting a gym guy, girls who don't meet much of the beauty standards expecting top 10% looks) etc etc If it's "I'd like..." it's fine. You like what you like, and it makes sense to like good …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:32 AM
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The reason body positivity doesn't work is because it's showing people who are obese. Nobody is attracted to that indeed (unless they have a fetish) because it'a marker of ill-health, trying to make people like things like this goes against our biological hardwiring. That's why it's not working, if it didn't go to the extreme of extremes and wasn't attached to the movements it's attached to, it would have worked. But I think within the realm of positive health markers taste can evolve. Not throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:00 AM
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I'm bisexual and... I don't know about all that... The only thing out of everything that is listed that's true is the hookups part but even that, if you have any standards or a type, then it's not even that easy. Easier ? Yes. Easy ? No. On the other end if you're not into that whole sex-heavy culture you might as well consider your gay card terminated. The culture will be hostile to you and it will be tough to date. I've often wished I was straight because all my romantic interests for men ( so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:11 AM
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I have a talent agency and I used to promote creators who sometimes did this type of soft SW outside of their main social platforms. Even them understand it’s fair for men not to want to date them because of their work. I became friends with a few of these girls and we’ve had many discussions like that. There was also some that wanted to date me, I said I didn’t want to because of said work, they understood it was perfectly fair. It’s just like women not wanting to date me because of my agency :…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:17 AM
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As a guy who wouldn’t even date chubby, it’s also about my health low-key. Because I used to be a fat kid and lost all the weight as an adult, why would I : 1) Settle for something I didn’t deem acceptable to be myself ? 2) Bring unhealthy eating habits back in my house to make my own fitness goals harder ? You are the company you keep. It’s also just aesthetic but honestly 50% is the point above. And before the “you can be fat and healthy” well if you workout everyday and STILL after years aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:31 AM
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I disagree. I don’t care how many followers a girl has, it depends of the content that’s being posted. It also depends of what’s the IG for : is it a job or is it to post quasi nudes for free ? I’d prefer a fashion ( legit fashion not fashionnova stripper clothes ) or travel career influencer with 250k than a bikini model with 2k who doesn’t even make money off it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:58 AM
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I believe in love, but I don’t want to waste my time, money and energy into someone I’m not attracted to aka looks & who’s not a good lifestyle match aka status. That’s basically the entry criteria, love can come after these are met. For example, I’m not going to get to know a girl I find passably attractive who has no income & no projects, because even if I fell in love with her, what’s the future here ? What plans are we going to make ? Me paying for everything is not an option. Basically if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:24 AM
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I disagree. I’ve settled on some things in the past and these were some of the worst relationships to the point I would have been better off alone. Then I decided I would work for what I really want and level up. Sometimes if you can’t get what you want at all, it’s important to consider that being single is better than what you can get or optimising yourself to achieve your goals - even in attracting a partner. Everybody can at least come up to average if not high average with a lot of work. Sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:18 PM
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I don’t really look actively enough. Barely respond to IG DMs because most of it is just poor convo starters but I should. I don’t do online dating, I went on tinder once and deleted that same day. Was just not liking the marketplace vibe… I’ve met some girls I liked in real life but there’s lifestyle problems like alcohol, clubs… one I discovered had an OF. So we didn’t date.🤷🏻‍♂️ Tbh it’s partially my fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:35 AM

No the idea is for the women to stop punching way up and be realistic if they want an actual relationship. Casual sex they can get above their league, but then cue “all men are dogs who just want sex” because these guys will never commit. Let’s take a decent looking 6/10 woman. It’s not that she’s not attracted to the 6 & 7 guys. It’s that she thinks she can get a 9/10 guy to commit because she’s slept with one/a few, so she will reject even a 7 and chase 8 & 9’s hoping one does commits to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:33 PM
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I bring : great face fit lean body despite short extroverted with an outgoing personality speaks multiple languages, masters degree, travelled the world successful entrepreneur with the income that matches social credit because good IG following committed, dates to marry I want : feminine decent job and educated long hair skinny committed, dates to marry NO sex work ever
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:30 PM
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For men, there’s three options imo : Accept to date below your league/SMV. Yields great results especially for the high average type of guys, who are not the top 10% of men but still have solid looks & career. Low average women ( like a 5 ) will want to lock in with you, but you’ll most likely not be that attracted to them. Focus on life and play the long game. The recipe to be single a while and take the risk for forever, outreach a lot of women who are your actual type, deal with the rejection…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 12:04 PM

The problem is that unattractive people don’t want other unattractive people. They will need to accept to settle. Unattractive women will be entertained by average guys for casual dating and even sometimes by above average guys for one night stands. This sets a precedent for them. Guys do not get the opportunity at all, so they will be more encline to accept to settle for someone in their league ( or if young, even below, because young women will likely not accept someone in their league). I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:54 AM

Yeah that’s exactly what I meant with the punching up women do, but you’ve explained it better. Imo a 4/5 woman will expect at least 6 men and think they’re her equal. These are the men she’ll entertain and only casually date in case she can get better. To do so, she’ll orbit 7 and up. If she gets one of these “better” guys then she will lock in quickly because that’s jackpot to her ( ie. the situation with my male model acquaintance ). She will only lock in with the 6 guy if she decreases in va…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:25 AM

Imo, not really, from personal experience. I also date men, so I see both sides of the coin. It goes much differently : I get interest from men who are equals aka decent looks, good income, fit etc. Now I mostly decline them because sure I’m openly bi but into women + very feminine men only type of bi. But they’re realistically attractive men. Sometimes I wish I was attracted to masculine men, if so I would have opted out from dating women completely. The women in my DM + irl orbiters ? Mostly b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:42 AM

Most gen Z & young millennial men have no trouble getting long lasting relationships if they drop their standards to way below their SMV. It was different for older age groups. Basically the women will lock in if they punch up, if they’re equal they will entertain but will not lock in ( because they think you’re a OK option, but that they can still punch up). If they’re superior they will not look your way. Men generally look for equal. I know a guy who’s a male model and engaged at 22, but his …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 06:00 AM

I’m a bi guy - actually, the correct label for my sexuality would be “femininity regardless of sex” so I thought my insight would be relevant. Even I would not pick a woman over a guy, granted they both fit my taste. I dated women more, because obviously 80% of women are feminine enough for me while maybe 1% of men. I will pick who’s the best match for me. If the guy is a better fit in terms of personality, lifestyle etc I will pick him 100%. I don’t know where you got that from ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:46 AM
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OF responds to certain needs and can be healthy. It’s just the use that is made of it by a lot of men that isn’t. Have specific fetishes you don’t want to explore with a partner ? OF/Porn is fine in that case, for example. The problem isn’t OF. It’s some men going there to fill a genuine void for intimacy ( sometimes not even sexual intimacy, but like a connection with women). Because OF isn’t made for that. These women are here to make money , it’s their job. They give you attention because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:35 AM

The issue is, you can change her lifestyle but she can affect yours too. Most people will say skill issue but having experienced something like that, it’s really hard to stick to a good diet when your partner is bringing in the takeaways and always want to go to restaurants. I’ve dated a girl like that ( average weight tho, not sure how the hell to this day ) and even with watching my intake, still gained some weight. So personally no I’m not attracted to fat women usually, but it’s only a dealb…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:25 AM
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Most of the men who complain about not getting dates are the problem. Honestly I only exclude the men who either have medical issues,disabilities, deformities, mental illnesses or were really dealt a tough hand compared to the current male beauty standard ( <5’7 for example) from this and will agree that yeah they might have done everything and still failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:33 PM
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No. We’ve had enough monetisation of intimacy. I have sex worker friends, so I know what type of customers they have. There’s men who have a fetish for paying women ( fine ! ) or just have some kinks they don’t feel comfortable or don’t prefer sharing with a regular partner ( also fine !). These two cases are what sex work is for. But the guys who genuinely just want intimacy they can’t get anywhere else ? Pay for sex workers just to have a slight, totally fake connexion ? Stop paying. This isn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:44 AM

In my country ( European ), the court will only make the man pay alimony if there’s a significant difference of income between the man & the woman. Ie. Man earns 10k/month, woman is min wage. So if the 10k/month dude doesn’t date min wage women and instead, women with his level of income, the issue doesn’t exist. In the US yes it’s fucked. Totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:33 AM

Agreed. I have a good career & financial assets, I am not entertaining broke women. If she’s got 0 motion, it’s a dealbreaker. I love career women, and I don’t understand why a man who’s career orientated himself wouldn’t ? It’s a good thing to have in common. Wtf would I talk about with a girl who has no ambition and nothing going on ? What type of projects would I kickstart as a couple with somebody who can’t even have a solo project ? So not only is it their fault but they also set themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:54 AM
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Not really. I’ve missed out on teen dating because I’ve had a somewhat serious illness, so I focused on getting my academic goals and preparing for my career. Didn’t have the energy for dating, didn’t want to enter the “scene” as an ill guy. I now make 6 figures with total location & time freedom, with potential to make more when I’m ready to scale. I don’t have problem with dating now in late 20s and no I’m not betabuxxing my way, I don’t date women who don’t have a similar income. It really do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:41 AM
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I would be more attracted, and I have the same type of rule as a man. There’s no way I’ll have sex with someone if the relationship hasn’t gotten somewhat serious. I’ve dated a girl who had a 6 months rule and I was very happy with it, we were together 3 years. Didn’t work for career reasons but she was most likely the love of my life. I would leave a potential partner if she insists on sex during the first month or has a problem with waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:23 AM
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It took me blowing up a friendship with a girl I had known for 5 years personally. She dropped romantic hints and « you’re my dream guy » all the time so I fell in love with her and thought it could work. When I confessed she said « lol » and proceed about talking about other guys so I cut contact. Never again 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:53 AM
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I don’t support hookup culture at all ( for men and women), I don’t see it as « pleasure » I see it as poison tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 07:58 PM
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Honestly in most cases even if the girl has dropped romantic hints, showed interest etc but still didn’t pick you and/or ended up actually dating somebody else, she’s not going to change her mind and sticking around in hopes she will is a waste of time and kind of dishonest. You were just an option and you weren’t the best one. That’s it. I like to cut contact immediately personally, it’s quite harsh but if I come in contact with romantic intent, if this is not the outcome then it doesn’t align …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:00 PM
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Not necessarily. A lot of women are punching way above their league nowadays because the type of men they want might entertain them but never actually date them - either just a failed talking stage out of boredom or hook-up. However, it makes them think they can get guys of that standard to get in a serious relationship with them. But it’s up to these men not to set false expectations, however they don’t care because this type of guy usually has no problem dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 01:38 PM
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I agree with you. I had this friend I developed feelings down the line for, she rejected me. I distanced myself, but I was still intending on being friendly because yes we were friends above anything else. It was never gonna be the same, but it could recover. When she started talking to me about other guys knowing what I had expressed, and treating me like a gay best friend, I cut ties. Because that’s disrespectful now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:03 AM
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« Slutshaming » when I say I don’t want a woman with a high bodycount/ who’s ever engaged in hook-up culture. « Fetish for anorexia » because I’m not attracted to overweight women and would only consider a thin and/or fit woman. Also shit for not wanting masculine women, not liking short hair on girls, etc… I literally get accused of misogyny everytime for my taste especially when talking about it to female friends. I’m literally bisexual ( albeit only attracted to femininity regardless of sex) …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:44 AM
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I like the tall, thin model type with long hair. Slightly underweight, very little curves, small breasts like B cup or under. Bella Hadid, Kate Moss, Taylor Momsen have very attractive bodies to me. I tend to go for girls with dark hair but it’s not really a criteria for me, just a pattern amongst the girls I’ve dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:36 AM
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Tbh I don’t even care that much about the bodycount itself, I care about the circumstances of it. A girl can have a bodycount of 2, if it’s 2 FWBs or hookups I’m not interested in her. But I’d be fine a girl with 3 if it was relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 01:58 PM
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I think this works, but not if you really fail at one of the criteria. I.e : I lived in Paris and in London so 2 big cities. I own 2 businesses, high income, lean ( aka not bodybuilder body but somewhat muscular and not fat). Good face, doing very well on social media where you can’t really tell my height because I know how to dress. DM’s from girls on the regular. Did well in OLD with no height disclosure ( did it as a test). Not ran thru because no interest in hookups, my body count is 3. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 10:22 AM
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As a man, I wish men : Would stop giving attention to women they know they will NEVER date just to get sex or because they’re bored and wanna talk to a girl. This creates unrealistic expectations. Girls who are a rough 3/10 now feel entitled to 9/10’s because a few bored guys flirted once or twice. It’s also a waste of time. Would be more honest & upfront about their intentions. If you want a hookup, voice that shit early on. Don’t make that girl think you’ll date her to get there. Women want se…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:37 PM
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