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Nah, they just want to be worshipped instead of the assholes. Women experience the same thing — watching mean slutty greedy attention seekers get rewarded instead of nice, normal women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:40 AM
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Then we don’t have to believe or care about anything men say either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:39 AM
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They don’t care about that. And don’t want to either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:28 AM
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If that were true, you’d be happy with platonic friends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:00 AM
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Because they want it, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:59 AM
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Men want commitment, why wouldn’t we?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:48 PM
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Men want commitment, so why wouldn’t we ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:47 PM
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Yes, so you seek sex, not just “enjoying their company” and “respect”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:45 PM
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There’s plenty of novels, movies, tv shows, web series and gossip about normal people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:43 PM
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So? Still about relationships and romance
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:16 PM
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You could achieve all those things with a single roommate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:15 PM
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I’m pretty sure you seek sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:13 PM
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Nope. That’s what women want and obsess over — relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:12 PM
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Of course they do. Women are obsessed with relationships and romance. That’s the vast majority of what they fantasize about, read, listen, watch and discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:06 PM
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edited
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:00 PM
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That’s single parents, of which the vast majority are women. When you adjust for the fact that 80% of single parents are women, men are more likely to kill their own child than women When both parents are present, the only time women kill equally is when the child is one day old https://jaapl.org/content/35/1/74
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:46 PM
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why would their demands not be the same as yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:31 PM
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r/whenwomenrefuse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:25 PM
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Nope. She has to have sex with you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:06 PM
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The data does not agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:48 PM
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The ones here disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:48 PM
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Not to men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:24 PM
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People are just spoiled
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:17 PM
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Then why did you say “people” instead of “men” in your post?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 01:01 PM
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Not if they don’t get sex, which is always what men complain about, way more than purpose or emotional fulfillment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:30 AM
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This isn’t the 1850 French court
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:29 AM
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Only a young/single/childless/wealthy person would think that most people have the time and energy for such nonsense It’s actually kind of flattering that you think we do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:19 AM
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I’m not a man, man I just observe what men say…and most of all what they complain about and make excuses for
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:43 PM
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I’m not a man, man I just observe what men say
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:42 PM
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Nope. I said that will get people to think he is “nice” And he will be….if he’s not expecting a reward
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:54 PM
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Yes, of course this isn’t about all men, just the ones who complain that X won’t get them sex so why bother
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:52 PM
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My argument was that your definition of unconditional love was illogical for the reasoning given And since you deflected my reasoning and moved goalposts in response, I reasonably concluded that your definition is incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:32 PM
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I consider myself someone who doesn’t expect a reward for being nice to people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:31 PM
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I don’t see a man who loves sex being able to love himself if he isn’t having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:30 PM
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When in doubt, attack the person not the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:43 PM
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I like people who like me and don’t offend me. I’m not looking for a set of skills or a role model
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:42 PM
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And we’re not talking about children. We’re talking about men who want to get laid, the topic of this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:40 PM
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That is what a selfish person would think, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:39 PM
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The men who are complaining aren’t and wouldn’t want to socialize even if they were
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:16 PM
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Nope. That’s precisely why it’s nice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:09 PM
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Understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:01 PM
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They don’t care what you want, sis, so they’re gonna keep doing it. They will only stop when there’s deterrents
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:55 PM
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Don’t you think RP men are the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:53 PM
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That wasn’t the question
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:14 PM
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Her advice/prescription. If it don’t get you puss puss, men won’t do it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:14 PM
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I’m not a man, man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:12 PM
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So your conditions are bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:11 PM
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You think most men would be okay with women “being themselves”, aka not dieting, wearing cosmetics or taking care of their appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:10 PM
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Then the vast majority of people are not unconditionally loved, no matter how they were treated after age 4 And you can treat a kid however you want after age 4 and still correctly claim you unconditionally love them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:00 PM
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It won’t. “Inherent worth” won’t get a man laid, so why would they care about it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:59 PM
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Being yourself won’t get you laid, which is the whole problem for men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:57 PM
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And she knows darn well that that’s what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:55 PM
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The annoying thing is that she doesn’t say what “maleness” is. It could be simply “existing while man”. And she also doesn’t say that “love” is romantic love, so you definitely could interpret it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:53 PM
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That entire quote is a word salad that says nothing useful except “trad masculinity bad”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:52 PM
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Exactly. That quote is a bunch of nothing. She says we shouldn’t desire harmful traditional masculinity but doesn’t define this “maleness” she talks so much about, except as “humanity” Personally, I don’t believe women’s or even men’s preferences are as deterministic as most theorists portray them as. There’s a lot of diversity in what is and has been considered “desirable” People are just lazy and fall back on excuses and conformity; if you want to, you will
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:50 PM
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Nothing to do about caring and all to do with who is better at lifting, carrying, killing, terrorizing, raping and not getting raped, beaten or pregnant If women were as good at those things as men, we’d put them in wars. But they’re not, they suck at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:43 PM
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But men, especially on PPD, want romantic partners, rendering the whole thing useless
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:41 PM
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What a weird writer. She talks all about maleness but doesn’t tell us what it is, except definitely NOT traditional masculinity Smells like bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:38 PM
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lol, most people don’t find being decent a huge and distasteful burden, or what gets them laid. Sad if you do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:35 PM
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Nope, all of those fall under the purview of “things that cause negative feelings”, which was the condition If you want to make the condition as generic as “feeling bad”, then those are all valid as things that cause discomfort
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:57 AM
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I don’t believe that most people care as little for their friends as you do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:07 AM
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Emotions which are only satisfied by sex, so same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:30 PM
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I like my friends as people, and they like me. Why would I do that just because I couldn’t get my rocks off?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:27 PM
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OP is the one forcing sex into platonism, not me So are all the dudes complaining about the friendzone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:25 PM
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You think men are showing you their true selves? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:24 PM
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You can have emotional connection without sex. People do it all the time in friendships Why bother with friends at all if you don’t care about or feel anything for them ? What a weird way of thinking of friends
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:21 PM
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I’ve had crushes on friends all the time, male and female. I know they’re not attracted to me (gay dude/straight women), or we’re incompatible, or they reject me, and I simply get over it It’s not difficult at all if you like them as people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:11 PM
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Yup. Sex is always, always more important than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:10 PM
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What we have now works pretty well, aside from war Which is why, yanno, nobody likes war and its avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:55 PM
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Nope. That’s institutionalized oppression and subjugation, no thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:32 PM
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Men are socially “normalized” and “adjusted” to not be immoral predators. And when society is removed, aka war, it is pretty clear what their true nature is So, to answer your post title — yes to both
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:19 PM
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Both Morality is largely externally enforced. War is pretty clear what happens when it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:15 PM
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Nope, just applying your statement appropriately
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:13 PM
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Sure. Men should never approach or be turned down ever, of course. Or put in effort, delay gratification, go to the gym, do things at work they don’t want to, or really, do anything at all. Because, ya know, all of those will put you in situations where you could have “negative feelings”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:28 PM
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“taking into account” and “only caring about “ are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:27 PM
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Again, that’s only a problem if it’s all about you you you and you have a toddler level of concern for others and your desires
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:43 PM
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Lol, you think women don’t complain about men sucking in bed? Buddy, you are going to be in for an unpleasant surprise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:24 PM
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Only on PPD are basic concepts like “selfishness isn’t liked” and “humans are social animals” news to people 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:05 PM
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Selfish, self centered people tend not to be appealing unless they have something people want, but you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:48 PM
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Totally; it’s so abnormal and dysfunctional for a social species to be social
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:39 PM
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Hey now, people and especially women love being treated as means to an end, didn’t you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:34 PM
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Of course, it’s logical that people would consider individual selfish desires more virtuous and justified than morals and principles I hope you don’t complain about being lonely 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:24 PM
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Sure, if your priority is yourself and your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:11 PM
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every other post men like to remind us that they will oppress us like back in the old days if we don’t fuck enough or have enough babies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:02 PM
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They don’t care what we think, that’s the point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:35 PM
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Nope. You don’t give the sex, you aren’t loved
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:34 PM
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why do we need more humans on this planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:00 PM
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You really dont see what’s wrong with being subjected to something you don’t like or want ? Why don’t you go to prison to experience how unimportant such things are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:28 AM
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Why would a man care about something he doesn’t care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:24 AM
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Love how men think “survival” is all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:23 AM
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They always deny that part too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:22 AM
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why do we need more humans on this planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:21 AM
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you can just search this sub for plenty of examples of men letting us know just what they’d like to do to us
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:25 AM
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That’s not what I’m told I’m told women get run through by dozens of Chads and then deliberately and maliciously trap the kindest and most decent men using lies and paternity fraud into raising kids that are not their own, before cheating on and divorcing them into poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:30 PM
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Nope. A comparison is not erasure or denial The opposite, in fact Pretending that a beat down from a man and a slap from a woman are equivalent is erasure and denial
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:52 PM
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Comparisons are not erasure. The complete opposite, in fact
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:13 PM
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Nope, stop putting words in my mouth that I explicitly did not say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:13 PM
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It’s not about their desire It’s about ours; or rather, our lack of it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:12 PM
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The biggest misandrists in my life have always been men Men love telling us how violent, lustful, rapey and oppressive they are, and how they wish they could inflict all those things on us
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:08 PM
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If you have equal numbers of assaults, but 25% plus involve death or serious injury, vs 5% death or serious injury, which is worse ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:05 PM
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Women have never liked poverty, hate to break it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:04 PM
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That’s only if you disregard the severity of violence and frequency of murder
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:32 PM
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Men are a protection racket I don’t fear women, at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:27 PM
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They claim to want to provide and protect and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:41 PM
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When men say their wives are mean and sexless it’s true and when women say their husbands are lazy and selfish it’s false, is that right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:41 PM
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Nope. It’s largely because of the greedy men who run the world
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:07 PM
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Why wouldn’t we like consent over lack of consent ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:06 PM
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Nope. Men love telling us how they use us, in porn and in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:05 PM
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Exactly, you just explained why you care. And that’s just your opinion. Society is fine with men being unaware and selfish, because they are easy to manipulate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:04 PM
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You care, or you wouldn’t have made this post You do discriminate, otherwise you wouldn’t have specified women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:12 AM
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Yay, you made an observation! What does your brain make of that information ? Do you think it supports the assertion that women go for assholes the most ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:01 PM
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Yup. Men who are willingly useful are useful Unfortunately they are in the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:45 PM
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Househusbanding/primary parenting for the men who put in effort. Unhappy marriages, singledom and divorce for those who won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:43 PM
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You mean bullies, harasssrs, naggers, jerks, assholes, attention seekers and loudmouths? No, I really don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:40 PM
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So, what does your eyes and brain tell you about people who are in relationships ? Are they assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:17 PM
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No, most people are decent to each other, as opposed to being assholes to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:15 PM
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Ok, most. The people that don’t are pretty obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:50 PM
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Why can’t you use your own eyes and brain to verify that kind of thing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:50 PM
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If they remain single, men will complain Why is it ok for men to be selfish and narcissistic but not women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:29 PM
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Nope. You’re the one making the claim, you explain and defend it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:27 PM
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Why can’t you tell if you’re being an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:07 PM
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This is an extremely controversial and reviled opinion in these parts Guess most dudes here do not feel good about being decent 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:05 PM
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Why can’t you be nice to all women ? Or all people, for that matter ? Plenty of guys seem to manage it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:04 PM
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Of course he can, if he’s not doing things with the expectation of a reward. It’s frankly weird that so many men are baffled by doing things that aren’t for your immediate and personal benefit only
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:03 PM
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Nope. Transactionalism is very easy to understand, even animals can comprehend it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:01 PM
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Nope. Because we get punished for doing, as I learned. “Easy” is not a compliment If a woman wants to, she’ll say yes. Because the default is no
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:55 PM
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Ghosted after sex, lazier bfs Women who are easy get low effort, it’s very logical If a man wants to, he will; if he doesn’t, he’ll do the bare minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:26 PM
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Nope. If a man rejects me because of my politics, race, age, looks, etc, that’s good. Because I don’t want someone who doesn’t want me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:15 PM
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Nope. Age gap relationships have lots of problems
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:14 PM
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Nope. That got me worse outcomes, which was logical Why wouldn’t I choose better?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:12 PM
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Of course they do. Everyone knows sex is better and more desired for men and doesn’t come with the risk of pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:11 AM
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The best partners are the ones who care enough to initiate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:09 AM
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That option is still there and few want it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:58 AM
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Yup, and that’s the difference. It’s a pretty significant one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:49 AM
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Service providers are allowed to reject customers, and not just in sex work. A service is part of a human, not a thing that has no rights
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 11:34 PM
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If you don’t care if someone likes you, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:32 PM
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Why should men be given an advantage? The one they already have is wanting a relationship less compared to women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:30 PM
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If I didn’t want a relationship, I wouldn’t date, I would just fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:30 PM
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Complaining, nagging and shaming can work. That’s part of why people do it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:28 PM
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So? Experience is the best teacher, and my experience has taught me that men will take whatever. Because, unlike women, they don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:27 PM
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If you’re in it for sex — and many men are — you don’t care about “crippling loneliness” Plenty of men are unmotivated to converse — it’s a major complaint of women, after lack of motivation to commit and lack of motivation to care
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:26 PM
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Of course it does. Men are happy to waste the time of women who are serious. Happened to me multiple times, and I learned my lesson well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:24 PM
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They want sex and enjoy sex more, and aren’t condemned for having it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:22 PM
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People can complain about whatever they want No law against it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:21 PM
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It explains why women have less motivation Sex is sufficient motivation for men. Not so for women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:03 PM
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Wrong, those are complimentary, not contradictory
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:51 PM
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Most men want sex, not partnerships or conversations. Especially from women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:50 PM
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Nope. Whoever has more to lose and less to gain has less incentive. That would be women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:41 PM
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Yes. Because we have less to gain and more to lose It’s simple motivation and incentives
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:40 PM
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Nope. Whoever has more to lose and less to gain has less incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:39 PM
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Nope. Whoever has more to lose and less to gain has less incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:39 PM
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It’s easier because men are easy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:39 PM
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It’s even simpler — whoever has less to gain and more to lose has less motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:39 PM
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Nope. Whoever has more to lose and less to gain has less incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:38 PM
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It’s very easy to understand: whoever has less to gain and more to lose does less
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:05 PM
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Why can’t women npcs see that male npcs are npcs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:51 PM
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Again, since both genders do it, why focus only on women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:58 PM
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Bingo bango Check out his post history
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:56 PM
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And what about men? What do they want and seek to gain ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:55 PM
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Or, you’re just making stuff up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:50 PM
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So why single out women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:48 PM
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Easy, because men lie, and because dating is for relationships. You don’t need to date to get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:48 PM
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For attention, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:45 PM
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That’s sad that that’s your only care for half the population, including people in your community
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:48 PM
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Sorry, we don’t like being used for sex, and we never will If you want to be liars and users, that’s your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:45 PM
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We’ll stop caring about our self interest when men stop caring about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:41 PM
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Let’s hear your reason, so people will be convinced
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:40 PM
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So are women NPCs or not ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:39 PM
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That is how he operates, yes. He’s said himself he’s not looking to debate, just give his opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:38 PM
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Then don’t complain when all women fuck, date, marry, trust and like men even less
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:35 PM
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I’m just saying that doing that will make the sex source dry up, so men will be back to not having casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:11 PM
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Then women will become even more reluctant to sleep with average and below men after getting used repeatedly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:45 PM
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How are men not self centered and narcissistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:42 PM
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optimize how?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:31 AM
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How would they solve them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:37 AM
-1

Nope. The law is not absolute nor assuming perfection
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:15 AM
2

Yes It’s not all men’s fault though; they’re socialized to not serve or defer or sacrifice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:15 AM
1

Now we have to tell men what a friend is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:08 PM
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And then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:06 PM
4

It’s not dating, it’s fee for service
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:06 PM
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Who says there has to be one standard or decision ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 09:05 PM
-1

It’s not supposed to, it’s supposed to feel like effort and investment — both things men don’t like
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:13 PM
1

Not getting what you want and think you’re owed is plenty of reason; embellishment isn’t needed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:11 PM
1

No thirst, no “value” Nope. The market is free. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything and anyone can participate Different desirabilities are allowed in the market; that is indeed the whole point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 01:35 AM
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I never reported my many sexual assaults, as most women don’t, just as the vast majority of rapes go unreported
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:25 PM
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We are talking about “crime” and women’s “reputations” have always been way more important and vulnerable than men’s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:18 PM
1

That’s the assumption. If there’s a time limit, it should be conveyed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:17 PM
2

In dating it is very relevant; not so much in other contexts. Men are just way thirstier than women, it’s nothing complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:35 PM
1

“and let her think otherwise”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:11 PM
5

Selfishness is very human and common
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:09 PM
10

I can. It’s called using someone for your own benefit It is very easy to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:08 PM
3

Why would they give a shit about someone they are using ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:07 PM
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Not at all. Considering how easily women could cheat and kill or abuse men, women or children, we simply don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:47 PM
-1

And what about the wimminz?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:38 PM
2

Bro…you’re talking to and sexualizing other bros. Or AIs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:49 PM
3

Why? Because you want the other person to like and enjoy sex with you, so that they might do it again, obviously Edit: and of course this is about a sex worker, who doesn’t actually want to have sex with you 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:07 PM
0

Are you speaking on behalf of everyone when you say that relationships that don’t have a desired outcome are useless, or just yourself ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:24 AM
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Yes, but we’re not talking about women here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:11 AM
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I dunno, what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:11 AM
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People act in their own interest. And blaming women is definitely in men’s interest
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:13 AM
4

It is not possible because biology is a thing. Men will always pose a physical and sexual threat to me that women do not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:11 AM
8

You kinda do. This post and all your comments are about you you you, and you’re upset that the majority don’t behave like the minority groups you’re part of. And you want people to be fair to you; why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:09 AM
-1

Are you all women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 02:07 AM
11

So, you are a minority, frustrated that you’re not the majority So mysterious why that is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:15 AM
3

I don’t think any of my failed relationships were pointless, especially because I didn’t waste that much time in them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:13 AM
10

Sure they may be common, but people communicate and agree about it. If people lie, they get judged I don’t see what the good getting angry that the world isn’t catering to you will do. People don’t like being told what to do, especially when they don’t want to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:12 AM
4

Looks are a merit, always. A free market is also allowed to decide what things are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:09 AM
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Nope. Casual sex is casual sex, and dating is dating If you’re going to go against the norms, you’re expected to communicate this People can suck or change their mind, that is the price of freedom I’ve been burned, and don’t expect society to do any policing unless actual crimes were committed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:45 AM
3

Presently we are not oppressed, yes, so it is a meritocracy. We are all, regardless of gender, free to date or not date, by whatever standards are legal How will it “come back to us”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:42 AM
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*if one can consistently attract That is the point of contention. If you’re complaining, you’re probably not consistently attracting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:26 AM
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Women can’t stop it from being a meritocracy, any more than men can, because dating is voluntary and consensual
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:13 AM
1

Nope, that is the Pew/ATUS data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:33 PM
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Fortunately, that is a minority scenario https://www.prb.org/news/mothers-day/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5458415/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:34 PM
1

So, nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:19 PM
1

So what’s the problem, now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:07 PM
2

I think that they don’t like us or want us to do what they want instead of what we want
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:29 PM
1

They’re not interested in what women think. They just want pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:28 PM
1

Men can do whatever, and we are free to disagree with, dislike and divorce them for doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:21 PM
-1

For you. Other women may think differently
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:18 PM
2

Doesn’t matter — nobody fears women or gets blamed for not treating women as dangerous I certainly don’t, and I’m not even a man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:17 PM
3

I assure you that no one will care if you date a 36-40 year old woman And I would just buy some sex if I were you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:05 AM
0

I’m not taking about reality but opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 02:41 AM
3

Why not ? It’s the same for women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:37 PM
2

If they can complain about it, they can change it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 10:46 PM
2

Of course it’s of concern if it can be changed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:21 PM
1

Whoever asks for divorce is the disadvantaged one; advantaged parties tend not to end things that are in their favor And guess which gender that is, overwhelmingly Also nope on post divorce https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5992251/ Women are poorer after divorce, but happier, proving that they are the disadvantaged ones
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:02 PM
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Nope. Getting a relationship, sure; once in it, nope
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:28 PM
0

There’s no double standard — always siding with the disadvantaged is consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:12 PM
0

Nope. The male ideal is a harem of virgins — all for them, none for anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:11 PM
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If morality doesn’t convince them, the only option is force or coercion. And if that’s the case, they are not people worth interacting with anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:28 PM
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You don’t have to, but you have been and are still hurting and oppressing us so women don’t think we have to either, and have a stronger case
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:24 PM
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You guys go first. We’ve had to take it for millennia
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:17 PM
2

So? Doesn’t stop men from judging and hatin’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:11 PM
2

Men hate sluts but want sex 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:45 PM
1

Women get judged on their worth, why can’t men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:45 PM
1

That men do it more than women, and complain about it more, and should stop
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:44 PM
1

Why can’t we just not date ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:41 PM
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Women only have endless options because men freely give them to them Men could change that any time they want
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:08 PM
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What does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:04 AM
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Not true. Men also offer companionship, money, social status and family, things which are tremendously important to women, way more important than sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:50 AM
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I am talking about what men think, not reality “women have inherent value” “women have endless options” “women live life on easy mode”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:49 AM
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I’m not saying it’s reality, it’s just what men tell themselves “women are inherently valued” (yes, for sex, by you)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:47 AM
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That’s the narrative men have
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:46 AM
2

What nakedly self serving advice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:46 AM
2

Men are as good as they are held accountable for being
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:44 AM
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It’s not a part of a general expectation that we should be dominant and prioritized because we are inherently superior and “built society”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:43 AM
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Not all of us are up for doing all the work, and rightfully so
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:41 AM
3

Effort
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:25 PM
0

Quote me, since you made the claim about me, or you’re a liar and defamer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:24 PM
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The point of contention is that women don’t have to do anything It’s about “fairness”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:06 PM
-3

oh, where?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:36 PM
-10

You call it free dinners, I say necessary investment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:57 PM
1

I see men wanting “fairness” more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:58 PM
1

You can. There’s always a risk, thankfully
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:56 PM
4

Yes, women ignore men at their peril, and of course get blamed for doing so if anything happens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:06 AM
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Nope. Nothing about looks there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:37 AM
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We do. We’re not ignoring you — we’re deliberately avoiding drawing your attention. Because interaction is sometimes taken as an invitation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:51 AM
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Yup, that’s why I’m not friendly to men. Because interaction is an invitation to a minority of men, as experience has taught me and most women. The barista is *totally* into you, uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:49 AM
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I can’t believe you would let a man you’re not attracted to do all that for you I’d be paying him back, because that’s what I’d do if he’d been a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:46 AM
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That’s why it is directed at red pill, the men who are unhappy, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:44 AM
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You might want to look up the legal definition of sexual harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:07 AM
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Plenty of men complain about standards, fairness, hypergamy and not being chosen, so it clearly isn’t okay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:06 AM
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Men still affect our lives and physical wellbeing even if we don’t center them. They insist upon themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:03 AM
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You didn’t say that in your comment, it was all about reactions and opinions. Either being judged on your looks is ok or it isn’t. You want to have it both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:24 AM
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So? They still need a woman to not be “lonely”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:22 AM
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So no then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:29 AM
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Complaining shows disapproval, so women being hypergamous and liking Chad is not thought of as “fine” by men, regardless of what women are allowed to do
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:26 AM
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Nope. Any time there’s a story about a teacher fucking a student, men are in the comments celebrating what happened
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:23 AM
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If you’re complaining, you don’t think it’s fine, contrary to your initial comment
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:22 AM
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Of course they do. Men depend on women for social and emotional support all the time, because they get none from other men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:21 AM
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So? Discriminating on looks is discriminating on looks, and you said it was ok in one paragraph and not okay in another
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:20 AM
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Nope “Women have endless options and we have none” is a very common male complaint
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:19 AM
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Men love telling us how desperate they are and how low their standards are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:26 AM
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Women also simultaneously hate men with a passion and yet don’t care about them at all, don’t forget
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:24 AM
1

Then why do men complain about women doing all those things ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:23 AM
1

Do you think men want to be treated like children ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:22 AM
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So ? Less money is not “no money at all” And what does emotions have to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:21 AM
1

Which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:21 AM
1

Ok, is hypergamy, high standards and dating abusive guys “fine”?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:28 PM
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I don’t see you calling men’s opinions on this sub dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:27 PM
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So hypergamy and high standards, aka for Chad, are a-ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:26 PM
1

So hypergamy and liking Chad is a-ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:25 PM
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Oh, like getting mad that women all want the same guys/Chad? Or women dating abusive or criminal men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:24 PM
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“Treating them differently based on how they look” is the same as “not applying standards equally in how we react to unattractive men”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:23 PM
1

Why is hypergamous discrimination not ok while other types of discrimination are ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:21 PM
2

Sure. We’ll condemn women liking and responding more positively to attractive men when men condemn men for liking and responding more positively to attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:20 PM
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Not always. Sometimes they say we do things because we hate other women. Or because we’re secretly gay for other women. So many contradictory reasons !
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:15 PM
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Where is the proof that they were arrested because they weren’t sufficiently attractive ? That was the claim being made, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:56 PM
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If you weren’t interested in people’s opinions, you wouldn’t be on this sub in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:54 PM
2

Why would helping be unequal ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:18 PM
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Men are happy to nag and pout for loveless duty sex, and plenty of women will roll over and give it to them since they already do most of the work
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:14 PM
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Women are condemned by men for only liking attractive men, aka Chad, or wanting someone better than themselves, aka hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:01 PM
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But women are hypergamous, which is bad, and all want the same men, which is also bad
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:00 PM
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It is for women, because they experience attraction for the wrong things and dislike the right things, according to men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:59 PM
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Not when women do it. Because women have “endless options” and “always go for the same men”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:57 PM
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Nope. Women are too or incorrectly discriminatory, according to men, so it’s not fine. They are hypergamous and also rate themselves too highly All not ok, according to the men here
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:54 PM
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Men say they have no options, and thus have and will take anything, and thus women can never be alone or unwanted like men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:53 PM
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When you actually know, instead of assuming and throwing around contentless rhetoric like “you went for Chad” and “you’re lying” Also, if you tell women they should give more men chances or lower their standards, you’re a hypocrite for judging them for doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:52 PM
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Men being thirsty and sex prioritized and women being pickier and relationship focused is exactly how dating works, and always has
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:49 PM
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Men claim to want relationships, love, respect and caring just like women, and to not want to be treated like children Are they lying ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:14 PM
1

It can be, if you want the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:13 PM
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Not at all. Women complain precisely because simps get what they want — sex — and then stop simping So men get what they want, and women do not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:10 PM
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Nope. For sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:41 PM
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They appreciate it, but only on their terms, aka for sex only
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:40 PM
5

What impossible, woman-necessary skills are those ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:38 PM
0

But sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:37 PM
2

All can be explained by women not being desperate for sex Men would “choose better” if they weren’t desperate for sex. But they aren’t, and don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:36 PM
1

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:00 PM
1

I guess they need to “choose better” lolololololol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:00 PM
2

And complain about it 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:59 PM
2

Not at all. That’s why so many women complain and then usually break up or divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:57 PM
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Men here say all the time they that they require sex to feel love
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:57 PM
2

The fact that you brought only yourself up as a defense and ignored other women suggests so, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:56 PM
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Yes, we had a discussion about how it’s not only about you; other women exist If you actually cared about the truth, you’d read through my comment history to see that I say plenty of things, instead of making assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:53 PM
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No, you don’t have to cultivate affection/caring; men have to be trained out of it, in fact, to be effective warriors or killers. That is what armies are for Nor do you have to cultivate defending one’s own interests, aka self interest. It’s pretty logical and instinctive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:50 PM
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Yeah, again, there are vent subs for your personal feelings. I don’t care about male attention either, but this sub is for general discussion, and it’s very clear that many women desire it and complain when men don’t approach them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:47 PM
1

Exactly. “Less” doesn’t mean “none at all”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:43 PM
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So? Lonely women who complain exist. This post can’t just be about you; go to another sub if you want to talk about your individual situation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:38 PM
1

Nah, it’s because men and women aren’t sociopaths
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:37 PM
1

Men are human and are thus social animals with the ability to care, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:36 PM
1

Of course we do. Other women can’t protect us from men as effectively as other men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:33 PM
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Women are/would be offended if men didn’t want them, so nah
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:32 PM
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Lol, are you saying that men are children ? In any case, men feel revulsion for treating women with respect and caring, so we’re equally unloved; yay, equality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:31 PM
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We’re not men, and aren’t going to lust like men I have seen plenty of hot or attractive men in public. I feel no need to let anyone, let alone the man himself, know of my lust
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:21 AM
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It’s very clear that many men see women’s personhood as an obstacle, challenge or puzzle to figure out for the ultimate prize, pussy That is why they complain about our choices, interests, standards and opinions. A LOT
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:13 AM
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This user has been around for years, and in a nutshell, he doesn’t want to pay for dates Probably because he doesn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:06 AM
2

So that you guys can’t say “that’s just anecdotes”, duh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:48 PM
-1

Plenty of men enjoy the non sexual company of women. Just because you aren’t one of them doesn’t mean they don’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:08 PM
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If I met more men presently or capable of being feminine, I would have been more masculine I haven’t seen many men who parent at the level women do, let alone by themselves If they do, they are usually gay
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:01 PM
3

There are significant deterrents that people prefer to avoid, like poverty, hostility, violence, social judgment, psychological damage, custody and harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:58 PM
-1

I don’t blame them when a lot of women put up with horrible treatment from unimpressive dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:54 PM
1

It doesn’t, until you remember that people can and like to do what they want to do, rather than what other people want them to do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:52 PM
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You could very easily look up and believe the many, many testimonies of women who are/were not happy with power imbalances They are everywhere. There are entire cultures, religions, communities, regions and countries where women have less power by tradition and design But you don’t, and won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:46 PM
1

Oh? What should the world look like, and what should women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:40 PM
0

So? Men claim they don’t care and are desperate for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:57 AM
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Why would I tell black people what to think of themselves ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:11 AM
1

They know. They’re not going to Singapore, Dubai and Iceland
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:21 AM
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Not if men agree with them. And they do Men love talking about how horny and depraved they are, insist that teens are biologically the most attractive, blame women for trusting men, and tell women that men only want one thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:16 AM
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Men aren’t disillusioned, they’re just less appealing thanks to the internet. Women can see how they think and behave more than ever But women will still settle in the end, because heterosexuality and social conformity is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:14 AM
0

Fairness is not relevant, that’s not contradictory
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:12 AM
1

And that’s what PPB is — compensation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:11 AM
1

Fit dudes are a minority in the US, men in poorer countries aren’t as fat Men from poorer countries aren’t considered exotic, I wonder why ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:10 AM
-1

Yes, “not fair” is “unfair”. I’m glad you can now understand the meaning of the prefix “un”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:50 PM
4

I respect the men who straight up admit they are buying their wives and gfs and hookups. Trump never claims to love or care about his trophy wives, and they in turn never pretend that “genuine desire” exists
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:49 PM
0

Of course it does, if you can provide adequate compensation for services rendered
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:46 PM
2

You don’t have to. Your nationality does that for you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:44 PM
1

The country leads it for you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:40 PM
2

That is precisely why PPB never want to bring a woman back to their home countries. Because once they have money and rights, there won’t be “genuine desire” The woman is the same. The money and rights will not be
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:40 PM
4

So it’s the same, not better as you claimed Yes, so it’s about money, contrary to OPs protests
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:34 PM
-1

Liking people is unfair. We do not distribute friends and sex partners based on equality, fairness and human rights, or, indeed, at all Did you not know this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:27 PM
5

PPB aren’t interested in consistency and the truth, just grievances and self interest
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:24 PM
3

How do you figure that? Do ppb countries have higher population densities and more socializing than Western countries ? Why would being foreign give you a better chance than a citizen ? Does “not being shit tier” equal “genuine desire”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:22 PM
0

You don’t have to. But liking someone isn’t based on fairness
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:16 PM
5

I assure you that plenty of people travel to the US, Western Europe, Japan, Korea, Singapore, Australia and NZ https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-visited-countries
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:12 PM
2

Why would the dating pool change abroad? Most ppb countries have lower populations than the US and the larger Western European countries Why wouldn’t women abroad love their own shit tier men ? Why do women from poorer countries have fewer demands ? Does that change when they are no longer poor ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:07 PM
0

Men claim to not care about anything except whether a woman’s body makes their dicks hard, and how many other dicks that body has touched
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:05 PM
7

Of course they do, that why they’re abroad in the first place You’re not a ppb if you’re going to a wealthier county
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:49 PM
0

Nope. You don’t care if a woman had parents who beat her, has committed several felonies, grew up in a trailer or manages a high performing investment portfolio You care about whether her outer layer of tissue makes your dick hard
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:41 PM
5

Why doesn’t getting shape work at home? Why would they see you as a catch there and not here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:23 PM
-3

Doesn’t matter — what you can control is the only thing people care about “Life is unfair” is the first lesson children have to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:15 PM
16

If by “genuine desire”, you mean “desire for your money and/or marginally better treatment”, sure But I don’t think that’s what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:02 PM
1

Yuh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:58 PM
3

Of course I did. Putting the least effort and investment into something makes you the least vulnerable to disappointment and exploitation And also results in the least fulfillment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:12 PM
5

Sure, if you invest the least amount possible, you’ll be as safe as possible, and have relationships that reflect such low effort But that’s not what most of us want
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:09 PM
5

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, obviously. Freedom! Chaos!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:45 PM
6

Yup. When something is admitted to be damaging after the fact, it is usually judged to be not good for most people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:25 PM
14

Yes, people are allowed to think fucking thousands and thousands of times for attention is excessive, especially when it can physically and psychologically hurt you Just like we’re allowed to criticize people who voluntarily risk their health repeatedly for any reason People are allowed to do dumb things, and we are free to judge and criticize them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:47 PM
9

A woman is not proof of all women, most women, or even some women Otherwise, I can say that all men are murderous abusive rapists based on the actions of a single man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:58 PM
36

We dont have to praise or agree with extreme excesses of anything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:56 PM
1

Of course they are. Because women aren’t as instantly and easily physically attracted as men, and they want to be enticed emotionally
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:00 AM
3

Nope, it’s because men are way thirstier than women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:57 AM
2

Hiding, by definition, is dishonest and manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:57 PM
2

That is what being manipulative/dishonest about your intentions is. Women do it too, when they feign interest in men’s hobbies/concerns, or pretend to return their feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:34 PM
-1

Most people don’t like being preyed on, so they criticize. It is completely understandable and reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:17 PM
1

Receipts needed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:57 PM
1

If you don’t complain or make a public deal about it, no one will know if you’re “living your life” or not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:56 PM
3

Everyone is well aware that giving up is an option for any gender or orientation Nobody is being oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:49 PM
3

We’re not, because low standards indicate low caring, respect and effort
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:21 PM
3

Paying other men is proof that male partners are insufficient. No demand, no supply
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:20 PM
1

Nope. Men are perfectly capable of enjoying, expecting and being dissatisfied with a level of cleanliness in their spaces that they refuse to contribute to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:18 PM
1

Most women do not, and complain about men doing so, while men do not complain about getting sex and no relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:14 PM
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It’s a better analogy than a bar or club, because of the physical strength and violence disparity between men and women, and men’s willingness to take advantage of it cannot be replicated in that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:13 PM
1

Relative lack of thirst has lot to do with that, and that will not change Women are, however, extremely dependent on men for domesticity, family and romance, which is why they complain more about being in relationships, not being without
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:49 AM
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What does that have to do with dating behaviors? If women do it, I don’t see what the problem is with men doing it too. Nobody is prevented from rejecting or choosing anyone at any point in any relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:43 AM
12

Women do the same, so I don’t see the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:11 AM
19

Men’s standards are for them, not us. If they ghost or break up with us at any point because they no longer wish to interact with us, especially after sex, that’s their standard
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:51 PM
0

And yet men are the ones who are usually alone even though they have male “friends” Maybe “costs” aren’t worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:42 PM
2

I’m saying lack of commitment and honesty about wanting casual sex affects dating, and indicates that we don’t agree on principles
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:57 PM
2

They can, but don’t have to, even average or below women Men, on the other hand, usually have to lie and go on dates to get casual sex And that necessity affects dating
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:54 PM
2

Receipts needed for “100%” Regardless, no man or woman is going to complain about that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:50 PM
2

Not as much as men, by a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:56 PM
1

If women just want sex, they don’t need to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:48 PM
1

Plenty of modern western people want relationships and children all on their own, because both can be enjoyable and fulfilling I enjoy my marriage a lot We’re all very aware that we don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:03 PM
2

We do not agree on the principle. That is the whole issue with dating — people not being honest about their “principles” Women date for relationships only, while men date for sex first, relationships second If women just want sex, they don’t need to date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:01 PM
7

A small percentage of people being murdered is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:36 PM
0

Ask men what their number one fear in prison is Men know men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:35 PM
6

I’m afraid comparatively, they do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:20 PM
3

Men think this until it’s other men lusting after them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:25 PM
4

Because we don’t tend to murder others
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:24 PM
2

We don’t perv on teens, no
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:23 PM
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Smut doesn’t involve real people, including minors and the coerced, like porn and sex work does
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:41 PM
2

They are realistic for our desires
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:40 PM
3

As someone from India should know, desire is the cause of all suffering
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:31 PM
3

Indulging and spreading toxicity creates the very thing you’re upset about — lack of amiability At least cheaters don’t normally complain about not being trusted
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:45 AM
3

Usually lack of morals or motivation, or both
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:44 AM
10

Nope. Porn is uncomfortable-looking fucking with zero context IOW, a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:43 AM
0

It is, and few have it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:44 AM
6

Nope. I’ve never dated from a cold approach, or put up with cheating or waffling on commitment or interest
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 05:35 PM
1

That’s what you’re doing, assuming we only date shitty men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:41 PM
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Since BP doesn’t see sex as the most valuable thing in the world, no
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:40 PM
3

Do you see no couples in your life that enjoy each others company ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:39 PM
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Men think our lives are easy, our interests frivolous and boring, our feelings inconvenient and excessive, our sexuality prudish, our concerns irrational, our achievements irrelevant, our consent problematic …..so yeah, it is weird to try and date them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:34 PM
1

Because of the way men treat them, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:31 PM
6

I definitely wouldn’t have fucked or dated you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:29 PM
1

We aren’t and won’t ever be okay with exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:36 PM
1

“I hate my wife” is an ancient sentiment, so it’s not new
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:36 PM
2

Everyone is supposed to grow up And it ain’t that difficult, just unpleasant and permanent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:45 PM
3

“Ask a man about his ideal woman and watch him describe a slave” “Belly full; balls empty”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:24 AM
4

You do know that this sub is mostly male, ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:01 AM
4

yes, men never generalize women here, of course not https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/kpqyT9qQse https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/mzzH2eJW4T https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/l8M7uMdCKH
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:42 PM
4

Why would we assume that the men we aren’t sleeping with are any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:41 PM
6

Why do you think they want one?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:39 PM
7

They don’t need to start. Most men freely admit that they love what their partners do for them, and know little about what their partners are as people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:39 PM
0

It doesn’t have to care about all people to care about people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:16 PM
1

Let’s see this draft then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:16 PM
1

I didn’t know that “unlikely” actually means “never”, how interesting Meanwhile, abortion rights have been removed, and a female disenfranchisement policy is currently before the US senate
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:07 PM
2

Of course it does. Society cares about people and what they do, not rocks or weasels You can break the law if you need an example of societal caring
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:05 PM
1

Materially supporting and adding to society is contributing to society
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:04 PM
1

Of course it does. If they do something interesting or productive, they get billions of dollars, attention or notoriety
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:03 PM
1

We had several full on wars since 1975 and no draft
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:00 PM
1

So there’s going to be a draft ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:56 PM
8

In your particular case, financial irresponsibility and impoverishment There’s plenty of other good reasons, usually linked to individual behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:26 PM
7

Getting screwed over in divorce is precisely why so many sahms don’t divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:22 PM
2

Spend time around me, obviously That’s what you tend to do when you like a person, platonically or romantically Men tend to avoid nonsexualized interactions with women, so it is a pretty anomalous behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:20 PM
2

Words have meanings, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:17 PM
2

From the current policy, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:17 PM
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Men consider pussy the most important thing in the world, the reason that they do any and everything Thus, even average pussy is important
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:22 AM
7

Nope. Male leaders and winners and achievers are the most celebrated and rewarded people in existence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:19 AM
2

Regressing is going back
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:18 AM
1

Nope, otherwise men wouldn’t be confused about why women aren’t attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:17 AM
1

Sure. On men’s terms, not women’s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:21 AM
2

Same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:59 AM
1

Men don’t care what’s attractive to women. If they did, they’d take better photos and cut their hair and stop wearing socks with sandals and baseball caps
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:59 AM
4

Please see point 3 Modern conservatism is regressive, aka to the 1950s, not literally conservative. They wish to change the status quo Red pill does not want the traditionalism and sexual puritanism that conservatives do
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:19 AM
2

Oh, they know. That’s why so many of them warn and then blame us
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:19 AM
-2

No, it’s because blue pill isn’t gendered and heterosexual like red pill It’s for everyone, not just the straight male minority
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:18 PM
1

That would make red pillers liberals/progressives. Which a fair number are
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:17 PM
3

Please see point 3 Modern conservatism is regressive, aka to the 1950s, not literally conservative. They wish to change the status quo Red pill does not want the traditionalism and sexual puritanism that conservatives do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:13 PM
2

You made the post and claim, you back it up That’s how debate posts work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:06 PM
2

Let’s see some proof of this conjecture Cuz I can make up some baseless claims too, like all men want to fuck kids because they hate women or something
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:52 PM
1

Why are you dependent on women ? Men didn’t vote or apply for jobs on behalf of women, so why should we do so for men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:49 PM
8

The red pill is for men, not women, and says so explicitly The red pill is avowedly apolitical because they do not wish to change anything, merely manipulate the current system more effectively Additionally, activism, like sexual assault and other crimes, brings negative effects, consequences and attention, another reason they are specifically disavowed by RP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:47 PM
3

Liking my body is worth little compared to wanting to be around me, especially since so many men don’t treat women’s bodies very considerately
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:40 PM
7

Let’s see the proof of that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:36 PM
4

That is not proven
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:36 PM
4

Why would men and not women have family to help ? It is also not in the best interest of the child to have massive disruptions and discontinuity of care, and women have less ability to pay because they are doing childcare
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:34 PM
2

I’m afraid a 15% lifetime chance is far from “extremely unlikely” https://www.thecenterat909.org/sexualviolencestatistics
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:27 PM
1

It’s not coddling. Male violence/aggression is very real, accepted and accessible, and is both a benefit and a hindrance to men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:59 PM
3

Safety and indifference
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:57 PM
1

*valuable only to men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:56 PM
1

Pussy is not as important as power
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:54 AM
7

Not necessarily. They might also be cognizant enough to know that women aren’t as indiscriminately thirsty as men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:52 AM
16

Not always. Plenty of them just use old fashioned reasoning, like “I wouldn’t want to be bothered or accosted by a stranger, so why would I do that to another person?”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:59 AM
1

Perhaps individually it is, but collective pursuit and maintenance of masculine power and power structures is beneficial to men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:54 AM
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That’s the answer to the question in your title
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:00 PM
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Because men like children, duh. It’s in their interest to pursue what they want; who cares what the child wants ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:32 PM
1

That’s the male ideal — main wife + side pieces and hookers when she gets old or boring
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:11 PM
2

And also complain about things!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:51 PM
0

Not if you have a main chick
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:50 PM
1

Men cheat at the rate women want to, not the rate they want to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:46 PM
2

I’ve heard this claim of pre-historic serial monogamy but have never seen any evidence of it, certainly not from archaeology or ethnography
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:40 PM
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The golden rule is a pretty good start, what’s wrong with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:36 PM
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Kids don’t stay kids I stopped believing in fairy tales at about 5, so, ya know….
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:35 PM
3

A marriage contract is proof of the relationship, which entitles the participants to material and legal benefits that non contract holders do not Those are massive benefits and indicators of trust, so much so that marriage fraud is a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:32 PM
2

Of course we do. It’s called work, and I met the most men there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:28 PM
4

You can want things that you have no intention of pursuing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:27 PM
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Going where there’s opportunities is usually a good idea if you want opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:27 PM
8

No, we don’t know unless you tell us. That’s how thoughts and intentions work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:51 PM
15

No one has to know unless you make it their problem And incels, manospherians and conservatives make it our problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:48 PM
3

I know it was a generalization, and responded in kind Most men are happy to live in and expect higher standards than they themselves are willing to put effort in to maintain. When they pay money for hotels, or work in an office, men are happy to complain about a lack of cleanliness and aesthetics that they themselves would never be willing to meet
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:46 PM
2

Evolutionary effects result from processes begun in the past, did you know ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:43 PM
0

Most but not all. And women are willing to look for and compete over the minority of men who aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:13 PM
5

Men are perfectly capable of having female cleanliness standards —- as long as they aren’t the ones maintaining them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:12 PM
0

Why so? Its logical to conclude that if you never talk to women you will never have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:09 PM
2

My preference is “cares about what i want”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:08 PM
2

If you think you’re owed sex and that it’s about fairness you should
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:07 PM
1

I’d say men have a higher drive for one sided encounters and strangers Women who are as indiscriminate as men are rare
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:02 AM
1

Why would anything that helps, sometimes substantially, be “overrated”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:59 AM
13

Expendable in certain situations that are overwhelmingly unlikely to ever happen to you ? Wow, that must be so difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:55 AM
1

Why? Because they’re desperate for relationships of any sort, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:52 AM
4

The assumption that women are more emotionally intelligent comes as much from gender roles and expectations as anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:02 AM
23

The vast majority of men who ever lived neither knew nor cared whether the women they fucked liked or wanted to fuck them A minority of men isn’t “men”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:41 PM
2

Why do you need compassion when you’re the one on the bottom getting your life dictated to you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:39 PM
2

I see entitlement work long term for average dudes all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:16 PM
2

There’s also entitlement, which often pays off for the entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:38 PM
4

I think it is intentional to be lazy, selfish and self interested
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:22 PM
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It isnt if you want bully, guilt and nag people into doing what you want, rather than what they want And it often works
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:21 PM
3

Of course it exists and is very relevant to women and whether they stay in relationships But please, do ignore it if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:19 PM
2

A generalization is a generalization; a minority is not a generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:01 AM
3

Why would your personal opinion be unpopular with you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:24 PM
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Um, the term is pretty self explanatory
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:24 PM
2

There are much more important things to worry about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:41 PM
2

It’s not inherent. You choose to put pussy on a pedestal. Women don’t care about other women’s pussies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:35 AM
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Strangers? Sure, women can’t trust strange men But your female friends, if you had any, should have done something Or venue staff
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:13 AM
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So? Still not murder
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:08 AM
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Government doesn’t care about that, and shouldn’t. It should prioritize vulnerable dependent societal investments, aka children, over adults who have autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:03 AM
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I’m afraid not to a child, who you obviously do not care about more than an adult man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:00 AM
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No one thinks orphanages or foster care are better than non-abusive bio parents
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:55 AM
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Not for kids, the people the government should be protecting the most 2-5 years after the child becomes an adult is more than sufficient
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:43 AM
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I’m afraid fraud is not punished for 25 years, nor is removing a parent for that length of time in the interest of the government or the child Fining is a much better punishment for the child, which should be the priority over adults
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:18 AM
6

If you think artists are useless, you’re welcome to live in places where there are none. They’re called dictatorships and war zones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:48 AM
6

They won’t, because sex. And women are willing to work with that It’s surprisingly easy to be better than solitude. The majority of men manage to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:46 AM
6

Why do we have to make people think what we want? If they want to be delusional, let them; the truth is all around and not being hidden
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:39 AM
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Everyone knows that men are horndogs and women are not. Men tell us so all the time, because they think women don’t know (we do) Plenty of online complaining isn’t about ignorance, it’s about entitlement — as in, women *should* be as horny as men, and anger that they aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:38 AM
0

why not any or all of the above ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:45 AM
3

Exploitation is rightly criticized, whether it’s of immigrants or emigrants
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:43 AM
1

Men are perfectly aware of this. That’s why they believe they have to provide and protect, especially against the thirst of other males
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:42 AM
1

Nope. Partners are great, if you can actually get one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:41 AM
1

Sex, for men who care about that Normal human interaction, partnership and companionship, for men who care about that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:41 AM
12

Men should do what they want, as long as it doesn’t infringe on women’s rights If they want to be wrong, let them be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:39 AM
2

WFH is a minority of jobs, and usually not the ones available to younger people If you’re not good looking, why would looks-based apps work better ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:10 AM
3

Red pillers almost never talk about love, as I’m sure you’re well aware as a red/purple man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 09:09 AM
3

IMO such dudes merely think that using the word “love” will cause them to sprout a vagina, and will do anything to avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:20 AM
1

Plenty of people don’t care about the means, only the ends Fucking a woman who neither wanted nor liked the fucking has never bothered men all through history
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:18 AM
1

Not at all. Complaining about women is different from crying and being emotional One is hostile and external, the other is personal and internal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:15 AM
3

Of course they do, otherwise they wouldn’t lead with their money, experience and status instead of their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:08 AM
3

Not at all. One is a public activity, the other private
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:08 AM
3

Because women aren’t men, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:37 PM
0

Conservatism comes with moralizing in addition to the chauvinism — it wouldn’t be a successful mass movement if it didn’t — and RP definitely doesn’t like that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:58 PM
1

It shows that if you wanted to, you would — humans are adaptable and flexible
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:38 PM
1

It does. Once I stopped initiating and putting in more effort I got better results People who want you are better than people who are happy to take whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:37 PM
0

Hypergamy is just the female equivalent of sleeping around for men And nobody has to entertain either gender in their efforts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:35 PM
2

I expect to be doing as well as my male relatives, who are all similar to me currently And they’re all middle class and married with kids
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:33 PM
10

Red pill is not conservatism, they don’t talk about politics at all Even I know that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:31 PM
1

There’s no need to pay an HR person to interview and interact with applicants if you don’t need workers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:52 AM
3

Silence is agreement, so I will not be silent
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:47 AM
3

There’s plenty of lurkers. And pushback is important
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:46 AM
3

There’s plenty of lurkers here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:45 AM
3

Not everyone here is one or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:45 AM
5

I think it’s helpful to prevent echo chambers and circlejerking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:44 AM
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If you want to reduce women to sex workers and dating to haggling over sex acts, go right ahead We’d love to see what really matters to you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:43 AM
1

Having fake “jobs” is not the same as a lack of acceptable applicants
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 06:42 AM
1

Not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:43 AM
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Nobody wants to be “anything”; as in “I’ll take anything”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:41 AM
0

They don’t need to turn gay; homosociality plus transactional relationships would be sufficient, and used to be the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:40 AM
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Maybe they would be relieved that they no longer have to do all the protecting and controlling 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:39 AM
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Nobody says that about making the first move
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:38 AM
7

It’s easy and important to push back against misogyny and stereotyping, especially when they are incorrect and ineffective
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:37 AM
3

Good for you, you are so special
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:13 AM
10

I have met very few men who parent and manage at the level of women, even housebands I suspect that women who earn at the level required to support a dependent spouse observe the same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:00 AM
14

I don’t think people base their dating activities on movies
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:58 AM
4

So this is about you, not women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:57 AM
2

I have never heard any man complain of such Are you going to claim they are secretly lying by omission?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:56 AM
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Most men do not have more pussy than they desire
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:58 PM
2

Most companies won’t spend money to not do something, that would be rather unprofitable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:58 PM
18

Why should men be happy that they get less of what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:21 PM
2

Good thing that red pill pretty much never talks about such then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:20 PM
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The big difference, and a quite significant one, is that “companies” are perfectly willing to not hire any “employees”, and sometimes consider not having “employees” better than having them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:19 PM
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Since men are victimized and suffer accidents way more than women, and women are blamed much more for not being anxious and neurotic, nah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:15 PM
1

After U
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:14 PM
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Nope Attention seeking gets attention, and any woman can verify this for herself I have, many times
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:14 PM
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Accusing people of lying and cheating logically results in bad reactions So please, do so if you desire that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:12 PM
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It’s better to be alone than in a bad relationship, so that’s not saying much Since it’s very easy to have a bad relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:09 PM
2

Supporting one’s interests is not strange at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:08 PM
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Appearance is more important than ever due to social media
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:07 PM
1

Then what’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:06 PM
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Uh, sex is very important to and desired by pretty much all men, and not anywhere near as easy to get as they would like That’s plenty to concern red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:27 AM
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It’s reasonable and expected to dislike whining and hated directed at one’s group or self
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:21 AM
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So are men. They only give resources to certain individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:19 AM
2

Red pill is about getting what you want from women by assuming that they are coddled, spoiled, selfish, adversarial beings One world assume that such beings are neither appealing for nor able to enter into a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:18 AM
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Nope, I just treat men as sex opportunists, as we’re told to, that’s the only difference
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:24 AM
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No man I ever dated failed to understand the reasoning, or saw it as a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:23 AM
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Red pill doesn’t necessarily see that as a failure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:23 AM
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Red pill isn’t meant to be scientifically sound It’s meant as a reaction, whether that reaction is correct or not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:22 AM
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You say “regular”, I say “when and how I want it too, not just when and how he does”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:21 AM
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“I don’t think about you at all”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:19 AM
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lol, women in burkas don’t get sexually assaulted, suuuuuuure
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:21 PM
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We don’t want to have sex as much as men and that’s perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:18 PM
1

That’s why “real” issues get dismissed as “hate”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:13 PM
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Policies exist so you don’t have to think or ask questions
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:12 PM
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Nope, it’s because dating is voluntary. If no one wants to date or fuck you, the only way around that is coercion or bribery
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:08 PM
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Nope. No mass executions or deportations happening, now or in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:06 PM
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Because men want sex from us, and we don’t want to give it to them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:05 PM
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Most couples I know are egalitarian, not traditional And those who do want trad relationships should be free to pursue them if they want
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:43 PM
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If we don’t like it, we don’t like it. We don’t have to like it, any more than you have to like paying
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:40 PM
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Sure it can. Men are perfectly capable of not being desperate and indiscriminate. And women should have sex that they want, not sex that they don’t want
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:13 PM
2

Being able to make friends and influence people, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:12 PM
1

Society says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:11 PM
1

It is, if you have to lie about and hide it, and wouldn’t want it done to you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:10 PM
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I’m afraid I don’t know anyone who’s survived a gunshot to the head or a nuclear attack Meanwhile, I don’t even bother counting the number of men who talk to me because it’s normal and routine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:45 PM
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Radicalization requires intent Women don’t intend to make men hate them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:38 AM
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Let’s see where this women hate 40% of men stat comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:02 AM
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20% is a lot more than “I’ve never seen anyone talk about this”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:01 AM
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So, you like rape? Rape is freedom and justice? If you ever end up in prison, I hope you don’t oppress other men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:26 AM
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Not liking what’s good for you is not a gendered trait Nobody likes to eat their vegetables But those of us who grow up eventually do, and sometimes grow to like them, especially if you put effort into cooking them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:38 AM
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Not wanting to fuck you is neither cruelty nor oppression Wanting to fuck women who don’t want to fuck you is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:37 AM
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I’d say entitlement is equally a factor
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:36 AM
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So you have no idea of your own, just what the internet tells you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:54 PM
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Women don’t fuck like men, so we’re not hypocrites
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:52 PM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:51 PM
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Sounds like feelings not facts
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:51 PM
1

Why would either gender do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:26 PM
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It’s not the where, it’s the how and when And if you don’t know those things, you won’t be very successful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:12 PM
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It is not a widespread problem because neurodivergents are still a tiny minority Laziness is way more of a factor
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:10 PM
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And yet, the meekest men I know managed to do it 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:08 PM
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SaHDs have tripled over the past decades. I know a half dozen as friends
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:06 PM
3

Because direct and blunt isn’t always about feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:00 PM
4

And yet plenty of men manage it every day. I have personally experienced it many times
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:59 PM
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SoCal/LA is famous for having a looks focused youth beach culture like Miami So no, these women are not average. They’re young, and wealthier and better looking than the average
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:19 AM
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https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data-and-statistics/adult-obesity-prevalence-maps.html https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-income-by-state Plus beach
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:11 AM
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SoCal is not average. Beach is not average. Young people are not average
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:44 AM
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Nope. Normal reddit thinks the same If you’re interested in the truth, it is everywhere And that truth is that most people think that men have it easier https://np.reddit.com/r/polls/s/cbxff2cMrn https://np.reddit.com/r/polls/s/gGp8xuwKGV https://np.reddit.com/r/polls/s/Swy5p4WtPZ https://np.reddit.com/r/polls/s/mK0ehYC0Vk https://np.reddit.com/r/polls/s/WCLJ1SrpfY https://np.reddit.com/r/polls/s/ivI2za7XMk https://np.reddit.com/r/polls/s/Qo4S17fiIx https://np.reddit.com/r/Teenager\_Polls/s/ySIQ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:26 PM
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lol, and there it is — “why do a minority of the population behave differently than the majority ? “
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:22 PM
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Mhm, guess all these people are young and attractive, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:21 PM
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The same way women are supposed to tell which men are good
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:19 PM
7

Sounds like you never talk to old ugly fat women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:16 PM
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Even the most insignificant of men can feel important for little investment, just like they can have power over a person if they have a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:15 PM
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Nope, I believe it’s about ego. Notice that it’s almost always men, the gender that does way less childcare labor, that talk about legacy — aka prizes just for not dying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:12 PM
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I am not happy that I’m inevitably going to die; why would I inflict that on someone I would love? Also wouldn’t want to be doing most of the work
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:08 PM
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Why don’t you almost die for something a couple of times and get back to us ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:06 PM
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You guys let us do most of the work and wonder why we didn’t enjoy that, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:04 PM
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Don’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:11 AM
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I dont find it frustrating because nobody is forcing me to date, let alone commit to or marry such losers It’s a shame you’re falling down when nobody is pushing you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:37 AM
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Doesn’t matter; people are allowed to be irrational and inconsiderate in a free society
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:36 AM
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The current system is based on money, as it should be
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:39 AM
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5-10 extra years of being extra old and also alone because your partner is already dead? Mmmmkay sure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:34 AM
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That’s what Q4All is for
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:16 AM
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Oh, so where are the female equivalents of foreveralone, incel, TRP, and manosphere subs complaining about loneliness and lack of male interaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:02 PM
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lol, you really think that there’s no social nuances and unwritten rules in other cultures?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:00 PM
4

I’m afraid that we can indeed accept or reject a relationship, or even sex, for any reason
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:58 PM
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TRP would love female subjugation, because it would lessen female power and autonomy. They only respect it now because the law and culture disincentivize opposing it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:56 PM
1

Or when you don’t have a male libido, or male socialization patterns
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:54 PM
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I love these posts, because every time without fail: Men here: “Women have it so easy and they oppress us” Oh, so you’d rather be a woman, right? “Hell no; being a woman sucks!” Oh, I guess it’s not so bad as you’re making it out, is it, boys? Yet you make entire movements and subs to talk about how it sucks to be a man and women are shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:35 PM
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“Women always have options”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:01 PM
3

Oh, is that why you made this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:01 PM
2

Low standards equal low expectations of oneself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:11 AM
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Because unwanted and disadvantaged children are bad for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:11 AM
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So everybody does it, not just women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:14 AM
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Dating is for relationships; you don’t need it for hookups and casual sex, and are expect to specify and not lie about it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:13 AM
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And then we hear them complaining when it’s not reciprocated or they get fed up with it A lot
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:16 PM
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That’s just, like, your opinion, man Plenty of men claim that women hate each other and tear each other down, unlike men who are cool with all other dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:14 PM
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Of course they do. Men love telling us that women love fighting and tearing each other down
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:08 PM
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Men still hold the majority of power and wealth, men still commit way more crimes against women than the reverse, women are still blamed for not distrusting and provoking men, and men still love telling us they can and should take away our rights — so it’s not “the past”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:20 PM
2

That’s a minority of relationships, and thus not significant
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:14 PM
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Nope, it’s because women aren’t as thirsty as men and men can’t oppress women anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:11 PM
0

why not, when it’s so easy to get online, instead of shooting your shot at randos?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:10 PM
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It wasn’t a contract, that’s why nobody wants to do it anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:08 PM
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I don’t believe they are the majority of feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:07 PM
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Nope. If men had the options women did, they wouldn’t behave like women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:32 PM
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Men being easy is their choice, not women’s, and we don’t have to be responsible for that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:26 PM
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Nope. Women didn’t think it was such a good deal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:26 PM
6

When men were supposed to provide and protect in exchange for sex, babies and labor
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:25 PM
9

We had that already, and it didn’t work
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:42 AM
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Sex isn’t as important to us as it is to you, and there’s nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:41 AM
4

Nope. We’re just tired of being nagged, harassed, begged and threatened for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:40 AM
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If women have to choose better, then so do men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:52 PM
5

I assure you that everyone knows that men are way thirstier than women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:53 PM
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i’m afraid the misogyny and entitlement preclude that. That, and the requests/nagging for sex I might have sympathy for individuals, but on the whole men haven’t made me sympathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:51 PM
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I will not support exploitation, sorry And the men in those countries won’t be very happy about it either
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:06 PM
2

Physical strength Violence Selfish ambition
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:05 PM
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When I didn’t do this, I got lower effort men, even if they did stick around. When you make it easy, you get easy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:09 PM
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Hit it and quit it Pump and dump For the streets etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:59 PM
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One should be transactional in a transactional system or one will be taken advantage of
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:57 PM
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Since mainstream thinking works for most of society, no
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:56 PM
2

Young men tend to want sex instead of relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:55 PM
1

Unhappy women in relationships and single women tired of men beg to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:54 PM
6

But babies and society! And angry, violent young men!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:53 PM
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Men know, because they talk about it all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:52 PM
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It filters the easy users who think women have it better out That’s a lot of men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:51 PM
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Money is power. If you think it doesn’t matter, you can give all yours up like a tradwife
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:51 PM
5

Nope. Men admit to using women for sex, so this is the logical defense against it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:54 AM
2

I disagree with choice and radical feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:01 AM
3

The point of dating is to get to know someone to have a relationship, something men are known to be adverse to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:19 AM
1

Nope. Way more men have offended me with their words or actions than with their faces or bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:08 AM
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Nope. It’s a way to weed out easy users
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:04 AM
3

The only way men will be happy is if we fuck and serve them when we don’t want to. There’s no way to prettify or make that humble
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:04 AM
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Nope. Way more men have offended me with their words and actions than with their faces and bodies I have never dated a man who raised their voice to me, let alone bit someone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:58 AM
7

That’s called a traditional relationship, and those relationships are everywhere A bangmaid is not traditional
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:36 PM
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Our sexuality doesn’t have to be like yours Plenty of men also manage to be sexual but not disgusting, even if we’re not attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:14 PM
4

It’s almost as if women don’t sleep with men right away for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:56 PM
12

Doesn’t change my point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:53 PM
1

Power is always problematic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:52 PM
7

If women find some men hot, they are obviously not repulsed by male sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:49 PM
1

Lying, duh. Unless you’re buying children and/or sex slaves
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:46 PM
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It’s very simple: 1 Be attractive 2 Don’t be unattractive The unattractive can ruin the attractive I find guys are way worse at number 2 than 1
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:45 PM
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It is shameful to take advantage of someone We think deadbeats are losers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:20 PM
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Criticizing something isn’t advocating for its abolishment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:05 AM
3

You can criticise people without making what they do illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:04 AM
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Who says they aren’t, now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:36 AM
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Sex is a basic need, but also means nothing and is like a bodily function, and is also indicative of moral character and values Depending on whether someone is having it I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:12 PM
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Her attitude is all well and good if your family isn’t abusive, dysfunctional or mean, and the rest of your life is limited and difficult Of course a western man loves being treated better because of the limits of other men and societies. No surprise that people like their advantages
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:10 PM
1

Sure, due to oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:01 PM
1

Nope, nobody in my family is divorced. They’re just obligated and repressed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:42 PM
1

Within my grandmas lifetime, women had to ask their husbands permissions to do a lot of things, and businesses and institutions were able to refuse them goods and services whenever they wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:45 PM
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It’s logical, and men themselves love telling us how hard it is to not rape and oppress women, and how lack of gratitude and sex makes them want to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 06:01 PM
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It’s very simple: as long as we’re blamed and criticized for not assuming men are violent, we will assume men are violent It’s simple incentive vs disincentive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:58 PM
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The evidence is differences in violence levels between societies, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:55 PM
2

All the Enlightenment did was reason that we don’t have to agree with and do what other people, specifically the clergy, say It’s nothing more than a uniquely peaceful liberation movement, and was not gendered
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:55 PM
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Then tell us how women don’t know their sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:51 PM
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This is partly why Gen Z sucks at socializing, although I think it will be better for them overall. Alcohol is truly bad for you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:48 PM
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Men themselves say men are simple, sex driven creatures with low standards and morals, and tell us not to trust them, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:42 PM
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They’d be worse, if they acquired a female libido as well as a body Cuz they would be getting more sex than most women want if they acted as incautiously as men, unless they wanted sex as much as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:37 PM
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Nobody says any amount of alcohol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:34 PM
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It doesn’t matter the stat when I’m going to get blamed for not protecting myself Stats on rape and sexual assault are very bad, and that’s with women being cautious; if we weren’t, it would be much much worse
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:34 PM
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Examples of women not believing the dating advice men give them or calling men liars when men tell them what men want or find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:44 AM
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That’s cuz I can show my real personality here, obviously Irl I got more friends, better bfs and did better at work
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:02 AM
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Ok. And what about dating advice ? It’s also pretty rich that you called women liars in your previous comment too. Couldn’t help yourself, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:43 AM
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My personality is introverted, deadpan and cynical So I forced myself to socialize, be expressive and not be cynical It was not difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:21 AM
1

Examples ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:16 AM
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Gossip and social information/judgement has always existed and affected our behavior. None of these gender issues are new —- women were always considered picky and materialistic, men were always considered lecherous and aggressive The only “disaster” per se has been the relaxing of social and economic constrictions on women, where we are no longer financially or socially dependent on men, and modern entertainment and other distractions. The genders have always been in conflict; the only differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:05 AM
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Men have and still want to oppress women because they understand themselves — they’re horny creatures that want to be served and obeyed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:59 AM
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How do you figure that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:57 AM
3

We have neither the means nor the motive to do to men what men have done to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:56 AM
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Amazing; so profound
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:25 AM
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We don’t have to be like men, or want what men do. Nor is there anything wrong with changing, or changing our minds
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:22 PM
3

I haven’t seen women call men liars when men tell us what they want. We just call them predatory and selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:57 PM
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Men are always telling us that they are simple creatures that just need their bellies full and balls empty. They don’t care about freedom, reasoning, or self examination
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:53 PM
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Why does getting womens perspective make things go down hill? Should we be lying to them and tell them they’re fine and don’t need to leave the house, talk to people or change a thing ? Are incels incapable of change or improvement ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 08:03 PM
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lol, trans women with the receipts !
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:59 PM
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Young dudes I know hang out and play video games at each others homes, go out to the beach, golfing, shooting hoops, or watch the game or hang out at a bar. They meet at school or work
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:57 PM
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Nope, they would fail because women aren’t as thirsty as men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:54 PM
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That’s logical — want sex, try for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:53 PM
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I am afraid The Answer For Everything and Everyone That Works Every Time does not exist Alas
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:54 PM
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You misspelled “sex” And women aren’t interested in that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:01 PM
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And yet you guys keep asking 🤷‍♀️ Or, more accurately, nagging, complaining, and then ignoring what we say or calling us liars
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:00 PM
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Young men have never been fond of women (aside from casual sex) or commitment, so….is there a problem ? Most people start marrying and reproducing in their thirties anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:59 PM
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Preferences aren’t the same as dealbreakers Things “women don’t like” refers to turnoffs more than expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:35 PM
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I have never required a larger income or chivalrous/gendered behavior from any partner. Nor does my family/social group
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:33 PM
2

Why would my goals and motivations change if my brain didn’t ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:30 PM
4

Why would she want to be a chad ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:20 PM
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It’s logical when you’re seeking a service rather than a human
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:16 PM
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If you’re looking for low energy, low maintenance dates with people who love routine and hate change, I suggest either the elderly or the neurodivergent, or the agoraphobic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:13 PM
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Men are the superior gender that is better at everything, or so I’m told. That’s why all the top cooks are men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:05 PM
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Your life will revolve around them though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:03 PM
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That only matters if you care about keeping her Lots of guys do not, particularly the ones who lie
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:00 PM
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Of course there are, since people are constantly breaking up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:58 PM
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Are dating views genetically transmitted ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:54 PM
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Why would that happen ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:44 PM
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Nope. A good, positive, enthusiastic and giving attitude will always matter more. Skill, flexibility, sense of humor, consideration, responsiveness are all better than a few minutes of uninspired in and out that is primarily for your benefit You have hands and a mouth, and toys, and your imagination/knowledge, and a personality to make the interaction enjoyable outside of the act And if you’re gonna turn your nose up at those options, you suck in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:32 AM
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Using dating to get sex is lying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:26 PM
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Yup, and men haven’t stopped blaming women for the things men say and do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:47 PM
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No different from the rest of life, so it’s not unique or notable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:44 PM
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You don’t want us to lie to you, but you do it to us 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:02 PM
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Asking for and seeking it explicitly, of course. Dating is for relationships, not sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:37 PM
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As long as men are upset about women having rights and seek to abolish them So, pretty much forever
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:36 PM
3

Banks were capable of not discriminating. Many just chose to, and did
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 05:12 PM
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Of course they did. Husbands permission/marital status used to be required to do many mundane things like open a bank account, rent a hotel room or apartment, make large purchases, get an education, have medical treatment, file a complaint, get a credit card or loan, work, hire laborers, etc That is why anti-discrimination laws of the 60s and 70s were so revolutionary, and not just for women. Businesses and institutions were required to serve everyone, not just white Christian men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:13 PM
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Same thing, in the end — gay men also care about the results provided by your body Your family and friends, on the other hand, should only care about your mind and the results thereof, and thus do not care about you, by your definition
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:04 PM
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I don’t think we should, it’s just the logical male gender counterpart to providing sex and babies I don’t find modern western culture to be bad and dysfunctional. What’s bad is poverty
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:01 PM
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Female puberty is not celebrated in modern western culture, so we don’t celebrate male puberty either The traditional tasks/priviledges of men (fighting, working, having sex with someone you want to) are no longer encouraged or are no longer male-only endeavors, and thus not special We could celebrate male only military service, but I hear men don’t really like or want that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:45 PM
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Work cares that your body serves it, unlike loved ones; thus, it cares more about you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:09 PM
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The majority of men fuck, date and marry. Normies among them They’re just your normal, boring family, coworkers, neighbors and strangers all around you, so you don’t notice or care
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:39 PM
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Not at all. It’s not what makes us human
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:14 PM
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That is what you are asking for Men would be happier if they had women’s libidos, but that’s not gonna happen either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:59 PM
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Because you were desperate. That can happen to women too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:59 PM
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If you want to understand you should
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:58 PM
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Of course they do. They hate that women can divorce or break up with them whenever they want for any reason, and would like to prevent women from doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:31 AM
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Those actions can only be carried out by your body Gay men also care more about you than your friends and family, and even your partner. They are in fact the most caring people in your life, because they care about your body the most
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:50 AM
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I’m afraid the data says so https://www.census.gov/newsroom/stories/unmarried-single-americans-week.html
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 09:00 AM
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Nope. That’s normal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:41 AM
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Of course they exist. Men complain about women wanting to be friends with them, talking to them, etc And of course they complain that women are scared of them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:39 AM
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Again, you can go to prison and find out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:38 AM
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Then gay men care about you more than women And employers care about you more than your family and friends
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:36 AM
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Because we don’t want to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:36 AM
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Women are not men, alas
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:35 AM
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Because we have no desire to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:35 AM
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Did you “lust after them”?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:34 AM
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Of course it is, because otherwise you will hit on us
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:34 AM
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The vast majority of men fuck, date and marry
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:33 AM
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Nope. Maybe for men, but not us
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:33 AM
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Our sexuality is normal for us. We don’t have to be men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:32 AM
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Biology
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:32 AM
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You should get penetrated to see for yourself. You guys even have a prostate which we lack
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:31 AM
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Being human isn’t just about having sex. Any animal can do it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:30 AM
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Of course you are. Men are assumed to be competent, and more importantly, capable of lashing out violently, angrily, excessively or thoughtlessly if challenged
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:25 AM
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Nope. Trans men report that both sexes are more respectful of their space and eye contact. This is because most no one wants to get their ass kicked or harassed Their opinions, choices and knowledge are also accepted and not challenged the way they were previously, because men are assumed to be competent and able to defend themselves while women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:23 AM
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I’m talking about what men are complaining about, and that’s women not needing them anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:16 AM
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So you can understand why women don’t want to fuck humans that are stronger and meaner than them that they’re not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:10 AM
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You can be lusted over by people you’re not attracted to who are stronger, angrier and more violent than you, aka the female experience It’s called prison
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:02 AM
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If it’s so great, we’ll give up our vote, jobs, bank accounts, credit cards, property, educations, medical/legal autonomy, etc —— right after you do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:01 AM
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It is an apologia of boys harassing and assaulting girls, all the way up into college fraternities
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:28 AM
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Assortative mating still holds, most people date and marry people like themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:27 AM
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Of course it is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:09 PM
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Nope. Most people prefer and seek mutual relationships, aka egalitarian
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:08 PM
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It is, because you’re doing it because you want to, not because you have to
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:33 PM
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Did I say “forever”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:51 PM
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Many people consider being alone better than in a relationship you don’t like or want
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:49 PM
5

What does that have to do with the Islamic world ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:28 PM
2

Again, we are free to care about morals or not. Plenty of men have no problem fucking immoral women, and nobody cares about that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:09 PM
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Why shouldn’t we regulate things that kids see and use? Or that can cause addiction ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:05 PM
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Sure. Because we’re not going to ignore existing laws Threats are so moral!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 09:03 PM
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Sure. And countries/societies like that get stomped by ones that have rule of law and respect for others. Because oppressive or chaotic societies are not efficient
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:58 PM
2

Sure. And if it’s so attractive, why don’t you be openly misogynistic too?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:56 PM
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You don’t have to care. You just have to respect existing laws. Very easy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:38 PM
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They don’t have to, that the great thing about existing laws
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:37 PM
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Blaming the authority figure is quite different from blaming an equal or lesser figure
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:19 PM
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That is easily remedied by sex workers and transactional relationships, just like in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:17 PM
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And we’re fine being alone, if that’s the case
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:16 PM
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Of course there’s women who don’t moralize attraction But the majority do, otherwise men wouldn’t care about it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:04 PM
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If they were capable of it, they wouldn’t be so in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:58 PM
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You can look up the rapist Brock Allen Turner
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:52 PM
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Not at all. Female breadwinners have tripled over the past decades, and single women have increased as well
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:40 PM
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lol, of course it doesn’t. Men were and have always been fine fucking women who didn’t want them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:39 PM
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I’d say most people who want a divorce are better off with it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:39 PM
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“we can’t ruin this boys life” “he does it because he likes you” “they were just joking” “it’s not serious” “just ignore them”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:35 PM
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Sure. It will stop us from fucking, dating and marrying them, though We can moralize whatever we want, including attraction. And misogyny makes me dry as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:33 PM
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Of course it does. That’s why the marriage rate is going down, female employment rate continues to increase, and the divorce rate shot up in the 1980s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:32 PM
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He had a decent shot because women were economically and legally dependent on men, and divorce was difficult to obtain. This of course resulted in the “I hate my wife” attitude of that time, when you called your spouse your “old lady” or “ball and chain”, and complaining about your awful wife was a favorite male pasttime Thankfully, that is much less common now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:31 PM
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Women actually want good relationships, not any relationship like men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:01 PM
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The best part wasn’t that he blamed Eve for giving him the fruit, *it’s that he blamed God for giving Eve to him in the first place*. You gotta admire the balls to tell God it was God’s fault this whole thing happened 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:54 PM
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Offending the people you want to attract is not a good idea, logically speaking And way more men have offended me with their words and actions than their faces and bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:36 PM
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Men blaming women for male actions (aka, Adam blaming Eve for giving him the fruit instead of owning up to eating it himself) is one of the oldest documented patterns in human history See: “she was asking for it”, “she provoked me”, “temptation”, “What were you wearing?”, “boys will be boys”, and my personal favorite, “the young child was a seductress”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:33 PM
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It’s usually unwise to ignore what the people you want something from think, if you can’t force them to give it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:28 PM
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Still had to pick someone instead of the sweet, sweet independent single life Which is exactly what you guys are competing hardest against now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:04 PM
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Isn’t it great that the women aren’t tolerating them because they’d rather be single ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:57 PM
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Economic and legal dependency says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:56 PM
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It depends on the goal of dating. If it’s sex, validation and attention, men have it harder If it’s a relationship with a person who likes and respects you, women have it harder And people have different goals
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:47 PM
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Why is it bad that relationship and sex are actually wanted instead of tolerated or endured ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:45 PM
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Why is it worse for men? Isn’t it great that the women they date actually want them, instead of tolerate them ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:44 PM
1

Why not just AI and porn? It’s free and you don’t even have to interact with actual women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:32 PM
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It’s not stupidity. It’s entitlement. Otherwise men wouldn’t be saying they should have what other men have, get angry about not getting it, or threaten to burn down society and oppress women because they don’t get it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:24 PM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:21 PM
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You can easily experience what women do if you go gay, or to prison
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:16 PM
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Nope. Men’s opinions and physicality are respected in a way that woman’s aren’t. Even trans men, who aren’t the most masculine of men, say so
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:10 AM
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Male privilege is being feared and respected. Female privilege is being desired and trusted Trans people understand this very well
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:35 AM
2

And yet men constantly profess confusion over what women want and the things they do
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:21 PM
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Opinions inform behavior, and quite a few men have that opinion As well as most traditional societies and cultures
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:18 PM
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It’s like going to the bathroom, except when it’s the indicator of morality! What an amazing thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:17 PM
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It all depends on your point of view
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:38 PM
1

People can have similar opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:14 PM
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Plenty of people, especially men, love dependents
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:38 PM
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They don’t, if you assume that all women should be for them alone and not others
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:30 PM
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“Fellas, are women human?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:48 PM
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Nope! Sorry, life requires thinking and people are not a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:45 PM
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It’s not much different from what they’re doing mentally already. You wanna thought police ? I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:29 PM
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Your eyeballs and brain, usually
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:28 PM
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Pat Robertson was a very popular Evangelical Christian leader when he made this infamous quote "Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." https://www.azquotes.com/author/12457-Pat\_Robertson So plenty of men, then and now, did not support feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:15 AM
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That is also considered sexual assault
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:10 AM
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Most people date and marry within their economic class
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:09 AM
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It’s not. It refers to the male opinion of his female partner
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:08 AM
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You can get a dick anytime, sure. Is that what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:07 AM
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I don’t see porn as causing disrespect Plenty of men are able to keep it out of the bedroom and normal interactions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:06 AM
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Who approaches/reciprocates, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:06 AM
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The important part isn’t to be pro man but anti woman. Another thing the red pill says explicitly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:06 AM
2

Again, why is it ok for men and not women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:53 PM
0

I’m afraid the entirety of conservatism is now anti
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:52 PM
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Yup, when you’re used to getting your way, not getting your way feels like injustice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:21 PM
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So? You guys don’t really do it, and no one’s forcing you to. So why should we, if you won’t ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:11 PM
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People should do what they want, and not do what they don’t want
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:32 PM
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Of course motivations matter when you want people to do things Why should we do what you want, instead of what we want ? Why should we prioritize you over ourselves? Why should we change when you don’t ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:31 PM
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Oh, so it’s cool when men are selfish but not women)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:35 PM
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Nobody told you that personality or morals is the only thing that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:18 PM
2

That’s kinda how debate works
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:15 PM
6

It’s hypocrisy because they condemn women for doing both of these things, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:07 PM
4

Uh, lesbians can be whores
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:26 PM
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Men have answered this question many times And the answer is usually either “be a complete whore” or “get a beta”. Or both https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/dpe2141pmF https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/FE8NalHoVb https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/aiDWs5F8zv https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/BKCJj2ljGW https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/6AG4k6NWk5 In other words, pure projection and hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:23 PM
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And they don’t care about that, and certainly not women. They care about men only
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:22 PM
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Doesn’t matter. Red pill is for men’s benefit only, not everyone’s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:21 PM
3

Exactly. I don’t understand those “enjoy yourself, try everything and have fun, yolo!” people. Maybe nothing’s happened to them, but I kinda doubt it by how insistent and aggressive they are. It’s almost like they’re protesting too much
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:53 PM
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They have no reason to apply standards equally and consistently —- their explicit stance is *for men’s benefit only*. It’s right in the sub description — “discussion of sexual strategy for men”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:50 PM
4

When men stop using dating to get sex, women won’t require them to approach to filter the low effort users out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:46 PM
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Of course men would think women should do what men want, instead of what women want; it’s in their interest. One might even say….selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:44 PM
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Or laziness. Having to protect oneself and sus out liars and users lest you be blamed for not “choosing better” sounds like a lot of work
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:35 AM
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Patriarchy exists because of biology But humans tend to try and go beyond biology, because of the freedom and benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:28 AM
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If men do anything en masse it would become reality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:10 PM
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There is tons, their entire schtick is being anti woke and feminist. They are also pro traditionalism and religion. They support policies like antiabortionism, at fault marriage, and marriage inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:21 PM
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Of course they know and are doing it. What do you think conservativism, the dominant ideology in the US, is ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:00 PM
9

So your mother didn’t care about your feelings? Also, men claim they have to bottle up their feelings and it makes them commit suicide and other things
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:57 PM
6

Maybe the good doctor is omitting “in the nursing home” from his claim
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:41 PM
5

Oh but that’s beta bux or something
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:40 PM
5

No, you just have to assume. Otherwise you get blamed for “leading him on”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:38 PM
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What good would being even more of a doormat do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:38 PM
2

That’s not in the interests of the men in power Social mobility is a relatively recent concept Men especially prefer hierarchies to prevent such
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:54 PM
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Men care about doing what they want, whatever that is, and avoid conflicting with other men doing what they want so they can do so. “Stay out of my business and I’ll stay out of yours — unless it conflicts with mine”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:52 PM
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Women have never been treated equally in any previous society. That is why it’s novel
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:09 PM
2

Yes. So “a chance” is not a requirement of society
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:08 PM
3

You can be shallow but still care about other things. Plenty of men are but don’t cheat on or turn on or divorce their wives when they’re no longer hot
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:07 PM
4

Nope. Society exists because cooperation and collectivism is better than solitude Men have had no problem oppressing each other and taking away each others rights
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:14 PM
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And there’s the threat, as always It’s also incorrect; what is happening is novel and thus not relevant to “history” — unless men voluntarily choose to follow it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:10 PM
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It’s not cognitive dissonance It’s self interest, like most hypocrisy is Very simple, and logical
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:10 PM
3

Ok, what word should we use?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:08 PM
1

Looks like you didn’t read what I wrote, because I answered most of those questions already. Typical
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:08 PM
1

Then we can judge you for your own sake, and only caring about what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:07 PM
2

Ok, “primarily”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:06 PM
2

I meant the royal “you”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:05 PM
5

Only caring about a body and not a person is sociopathic, don’t you think? What would you call it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:16 PM
1

I think you can use a dictionary. And just “staring” is an accurate way to describe it Every man I’ve dated managed to avoid staring at me And a man staring at another man can start a fight, so you guys are perfectly capable of not doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:15 PM
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That is also in their self interest
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:05 PM
3

Then they shouldn’t be upset about being thought of as shallow and sociopathic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:04 PM
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Nope, they understand. It’s just that rape serves their interests This is evidenced by the fact that they also don’t care about male rape, whether from men or women and regardless of age
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:02 PM
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Anti-woman motivation is more important than being correct. Because red pill is like most male centered movements — being anti woman is more important than being pro man, because men are already in power
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:02 PM
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It’s not accidental, it’s just that the ends (getting sex and blaming women) justify the means
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:00 PM
2

Or this sub. And plenty of others on reddit If men were cool with women and dating, the entire manosphere, conservative movement, etc, wouldn’t exist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:48 PM
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Of course. Because this is not about just you, or your post would be taken down as a personal situation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:46 PM
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Of course. Because treating behavior as acceptable is condoning it, just like it is with racism, homophobia, antisemitism, xenophobia, or any other bigotry Especially when it’s from people you profess to care about and voluntarily interact with like your family, friends, community, colleagues, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:45 PM
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I didn’t say it was. I said complaining and hating on women and what we do or don’t do is bigotry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:44 PM
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That doesn’t require staring fixedly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:42 PM
1

Why would you stare when you can interact?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:29 AM
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We do it because men are complaining and whining that there’s no ways Male loneliness epidemic, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:27 AM
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Not if you’re going to complain and be hatey about it, aka bigotry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:26 AM
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Then why is it necessary to only address women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:25 AM
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If that were true, men wouldn’t be complaining about tests, standards and dating feeling like a job interview
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:24 AM
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I feel no need to do to men what men do to us
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:51 AM
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No, because we don’t expect people to avoid being victimized by people of specific races, or blame them when they are, or ask them why they were around people of that race, or why they expected people of that race to not vicitimize them, or tell them to “choose better” about the race of people they interact with
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:34 AM
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Women would rather complain than solve their individual/personal problems Women are too fear driven and cowardly. “I’m afraid to X” —- bleah! So tired of hearing that excuse!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:29 AM
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Usually the people who do things are expected to be accountable for things, yes Especially if the people who they do these things to are expected to prevent men from doing things to them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:28 AM
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Men are happy to live at a high standard as long as someone else does the work
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:32 PM
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Yes, before that you needed permission from men or banks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:09 PM
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Women, 51% of the population, consider themselves human, so that’s already a majority
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:08 PM
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Men are not struggling. They hold the majority of wealth and power at all levels of society If you want to be pitied as a group, you will be judged as a group
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:33 PM
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Nope. Women don’t want to fuck men that don’t reciprocate, just like men don’t want to associate with women that won’t fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:31 PM
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I just listed societal benefits to men, so I answered your question You haven’t answered why, in your own words, men should get “unique to men” benefits, “something society gives to men just for being men for free”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:25 PM
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No they don’t, that’s why we don’t want to serve them. Why give something for less or nothing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:21 PM
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I will when men stop wanting to go back to non empathy We are talking about a societal level, as cited in your previous comment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:09 PM
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So? That’s still the many important and unprecedented benefits of participating in society, important enough that people from nonfunctional societies risk death and suffering to get them. And why should you get special treatment and benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:07 PM
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Or, learning you’re surrounded by terrorists who want you to do things you don’t want to or they’ll oppress you 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:05 PM
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Education, utilities, medical care, law enforcement, consumer protections, health care, technology, environment protections, military protection, retirement funds, financial regulation, political participation, transportation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:00 PM
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That is the problem. Men don’t like it, because they want women to serve them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:56 PM
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Women’s greater sociability has biological causes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:55 PM
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Morals have no relevance or application to society?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:54 PM
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Women are less important than men to these people, that’s why
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:54 PM
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Why would 51% of the population be considered “only a few people”?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:53 PM
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Women don’t see their grandmothers as having lived in a sane society that was easy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:52 PM
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Why would men not make contributions to a society that benefits them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:51 PM
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The reason is that men didn’t care at all until 50 years ago, only did because it’s law, and are upset that they have to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:50 PM
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Women did all the compromising up until 50 years ago, and still do the vast majority of compromising today. And that’s still too much for men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:49 PM
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Such as ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:47 PM
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why should we care about people who don’t care that we don’t want to fuck and serve them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:47 PM
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Because men didn’t care about us until 1920 and 1970, when they were forced to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:45 PM
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Where was the empathy for women prior to 1920 and 1975?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:44 PM
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Ah, so what about morals?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:43 PM
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We’re not confused, just disgusted and disappointed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:42 PM
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They don’t care what we want
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:42 PM
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Why would they do that if men are so great and worthy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:40 PM
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Women are. You ever read the relationship/abuse subs? 70% women putting up with shit because they don’t wanna be alone Rather, men are desperate for sex, which is infinitely easier to obtain via money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:39 PM
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“why don’t people trust or like men?”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:37 PM
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And who shall be doing this work?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:36 PM
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In a world where men have restricted women’s ability up until a hundred years ago, it’s understandable that many of them desire that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:34 PM
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When you expect the world to cater to your needs, because you’re violent, equity feels like oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:32 PM
2

Let’s see this “science” then
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:30 PM
4

The fact that breadwinner women are increasing in number begs to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:30 PM
1

Well, the op is specifically asking for ltr The problem is that that’s not what men actually want, judging by the complaints about the advice not being guaranteed or taking too long
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:26 PM
4

I am sincerely wondering what you as a man believe Because men are not a monolith
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:25 AM
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Hm, I wonder why they would think that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:07 AM
4

Why should we fear men’s responses?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:44 AM
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Nope. If that was the case, men wouldn’t be whining about the friendzone way, way, way more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:41 AM
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I’ve been hit on by women many times. Unlike men, they have never been pushy, lewd, negative, threatening, inappropriate or touchy, even though I am not in the least bit intimidated by them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:52 AM
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The young women have to agree with you And they do not, for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:44 PM
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Many of the men asking for advice want sex but won’t say so. What they should really be asking for is the most sex possible with the least amount of effort And the advice for that is, of course, immoral, so women will not give it anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:43 PM
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If women wanted to pity sex, they easily can now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:41 PM
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Since men date to get sex and women do not, nope
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:28 PM
1

Negative attitudes do have an affect
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:44 PM
1

Fidelity is an expectation/reciprocation, not a need
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:42 PM
1

Answer: I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:42 PM
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Why wouldn’t you hate to see someone relaxing when they’re not pulling their weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:40 PM
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why can’t you do it? they can be blindfolded, and mouth is a mouth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:54 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:52 AM
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Currently, women have sex with who they want, and not with who they don’t want. So rape, ie women having sex with men they don’t want to, is the most logical way to change that so men get what they want, which is more sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:45 AM
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I would, but it’s a yellow flag bordering mental illness
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:27 AM
1

Where exactly are people forbidden from doing such ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:26 AM
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What do I think? I think that when you expect primacy and supremacy, equality and equity feel like oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:21 AM
3

Not into rape, sorry not sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:20 AM
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Same reason beggars, signature solicitors, prostelyzers and street touts are annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:19 AM
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Correct. That is where entitlement comes in
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:42 PM
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Everyone knows that guys make things harder for themselves, and women are not going to feel guilty or responsible for that. Especially since lesbians and bi women tend to not do those things
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:41 PM
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Resentment is logical. Expecting people to like or care about it is not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:41 PM
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what makes you think these men want a quality partner rather than “whatever works” ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:11 PM
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I think most people would agree that height and looks matter
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:27 PM
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The point is he’s insisting it’s true when it clearly isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:07 AM
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Complaining is in fact annoying and entitled behavior .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:35 PM
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Not a true statement, so will be judged as a bitter hyperbolic excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:33 PM
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More time with your partner means less time alone or hanging out with others. I don’t see why math is difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:22 PM
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Nope. Way more men have offended me with their thoughts and actions than their faces
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:18 PM
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So? No one is saying it’s a moral failure
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:08 PM
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I think decreasing our biological determinism has helped us tremendously, as our population indicates
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:06 PM
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Because dudes only care about what they get, not what others get. Unless it’s what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:16 AM
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Yeah, and do you think most men are like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:33 AM
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of course they do, that’s why women consume all that relationship-based media like rom coms, Disney, Hallmark, Twilight and 50SOG It’s a huge industry
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:30 AM
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It might be a big deal if enough people are unhappy with it to not date, marry or have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:05 AM
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You don’t have to have sex to not be lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:31 PM
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I dont consider selling products, complaining about women and courting clicks “helping” The male loneliness epidemic is whining about women, not men. Manosphere discussions don’t call on men to be more social with each other, they condemn women for not fulfilling men’s desires Women, not men, are the focus of the manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:15 PM
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I agree the manosphere is anti female — but not that it is pro male. Because reductionist male attitudes have to deal with the fact that competitiveness is a key part of masculinity and male self image, and they agree, for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:09 PM
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If people wanna do something, they generally do it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:02 PM
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People do it because it works
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:58 PM
2

Relationships and lack thereof make many people miserable, so i disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:45 PM
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How do women ruin men’s trust ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:36 PM
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There are because you know women don’t like it. Just like men don’t like being valued only for their wallets or labor
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:05 PM
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Are women being too cautious or not cautious enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:04 PM
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Earn all the money, provide more services and hold all the legal responsibility with much fewer protections
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:56 PM
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“How dare you call us sexual predators when we are!”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:54 PM
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A man happily admits that men ruin women’s days. Is this misandry ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:51 PM
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It’s funny how you guys freely stereotype and admit bad intentions for yourselves, but get upset when others treat you poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:50 PM
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It’s funny how you guys freely stereotype and admit bad intentions for yourselves, and deny it vehemently when others do so
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:47 PM
1

“only”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:46 PM
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But not all men! Why are you discriminating?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:45 PM
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Nope, otherwise men wouldn’t be complaining that women don’t sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:44 PM
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So are men actually lonely or just sexless ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:43 PM
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I’d say most people know and accept it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:42 PM
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And it looks like people here disagree with you heavily I do not, because of the evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:40 PM
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20% for me I don’t think it’s all that different for men tho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 04:39 PM
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