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Wow, thanks for the passionate answer I guess. Seems to me you have some issues you need to work through because it looks like to me that you're a little too triggerhappy with being angry and interpreting stuff that isn't there to begin with.
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 11:22 PM
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Just a heads up; I remember some post on some forum where this person tries to explain how Gary Wilson and his wife were on some personal vendetta against porn and that what they say as 'science' was-/isn't actually accepted in the scientific community or anything. I can't properly remember the actual message that post/image was trying to convey but I certainly remember it existing. Given what I know about MGTOW, what Wilson is doing looks nothing more than shaming to get men back to the plantat…
/r/MGTOW14/09/17 06:16 AM
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The tide is turning. And that's a bad thing, or at least for MGTOW, not specifically a good thing. If anything, having actually taken the red pill should have tought you to not ever trust mainstream 'Flavor-of-the-decade' rhetoric. The article's 'red pill' isn't even an actual red pill perse; the article is just identifying the shift of the Overton Window. Authoritarianism vs Libertarianism isn't the actual red pill; the actual red pill is what MGTOW know; gynocentrism. . What currently is happe…
/r/MGTOW13/09/17 04:20 PM
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Replace desire with disgust and then in turn with indifference. . Desire to disgust: realize that women aren't there for your benefit and actually a detriment to your well-being. Treat women (in your mind) like they're dirty cheap expensive underwear: they had a purpose once but now they're all dirty and used and will probably give you a rash if you wear them. . Disgust to indifference: If by this point you're actually disgusted by women, what's keeping you from spending mental/emotional effort …
/r/MGTOW08/09/17 09:50 AM
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I see the logic. Cheap/easy sex --> no reason to commit. . Except that's not what happens. What happens is more likely: Women see dozens of men offering themselves --> women get inflated sense of self-worth --> their standards are raised the more she has sex --> higher standards = more difficult finding partner to marry (thank hypergamy for that) --> Men can't be arsed to deal with pages upon pages of criteria to be even considered eligible. . Basically; women aren't coming through the cost-bene…
/r/MGTOW03/09/17 07:55 PM
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I disagree. A nation that allows this kind of speech and thought but still acts what is best for the civilians and by extension the nation (read; not actually giving in to demands of these useful idiots) is the strongest one. If you're going to suppress things because you don't like them you're not different than them, you're basically saying that you're immature and can't handle differing opinions. If the only way you can feel safe is to suppress others, you're insecure. Just like a bully. Also…
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 09:29 PM
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Protip: if you're checking for a bool value in an if-statement you don't need the "== true" part like: if (Gender1.HasDick) If you want to check for a false then add a ! (in C# though, I don't know any other languages) like: if (!Gender1.HasDick) By doing the "Gender1.HasDick", you're basically retrieving (getting) the value the Boolean has in the object, so if you first get the value and then see if it's true you're doing more work than is necessary because the if statement already checks if wh…
/r/MGTOW07/08/17 06:04 PM
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This. When you're in a certain emotional state (angry, sad, happy, etc.) your body is actually 'making' you feel that way in order for you to process or deal with a certain event. In other words; if you are going through tough times your body might make you angry as to rile you up and to get you to take action to deal with the 'tough'. If you've witnessed something that makes you sad your body is compelling you (this is important, remember this) to feel sad and to get rid of that sadness you cry…
/r/MGTOW24/06/17 11:37 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly with everything you have said in the above post. It was not my intention to be harsh or offending. I was merely pointing out that MGTOW isn't a flat: "disconnect from society means that you can't feel any (negative) emotion about (aspects of) society". MGTOW can still have certain emotions while still being MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW24/06/17 11:01 PM
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You mean you don't share the same truth as them or you don't share the same truth as me?
/r/MGTOW23/06/17 12:39 PM
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I agree that wasting energy on stuff you can't change is useless. What I don't understand however is that among all of places, here in MGTOW we aren't allowing ourselves to have the any feelings human beings can have. Just like the language women use to shame us into submission ("Man up! Men are stronger and so don't get to cry or whine!" or something like that) many subscribers to this subreddit seem to adhere to the idea that MGTOW should be these macho, "nothing bothers me because men don't c…
/r/MGTOW23/06/17 12:28 PM
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Fuck off man, going my own way doesn't mean I have to totally disconnect from the world around me. I don't have to cease having an opinion just because I'm going 'my own' way.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 11:35 PM
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Am I the only one that finds the connection between "a fucking man" and "theory of evolution" really funny?
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 01:49 PM
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I am not so angry right now anymore, got some shut eye. I think MGTOW monks actually would propose porn instead of having physical relationships with women; monks aren't robots, they're still human and therefor have in- and outputs they need to give their brain to keep happy and sane. That being said; if you're aware of MGTOW and what it means would you rather choose porn (which is on an individual level safer) over actual women (who can destroy you at any point in your relationship with them)?
/r/MGTOW10/06/17 11:54 AM
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You're putting the finger exactly on the sore spot. My ultimate end point is that porn can be a source for an addiction if you abuse it, in that regard I agree. But calling porn addictive because it may be an outlet for a natural need someone needs to satisfy on a daily basis is dishonest. Let me put it this way; food, breating and shelter is addicting. Don't believe me? Try quitting.
/r/MGTOW10/06/17 11:50 AM
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I didn't say watching porn is a need. I said that calling something you naturally need and in turn seek out isn't an addiction. The fact it bothers me so much is because calling watching porn to fulfill a need is just a shaming-tactic to keep men on the plantation. See http://imgur.com/gallery/xGBbs.
/r/MGTOW09/06/17 10:52 PM
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Oh, you done fucked it up now son. I am in a bad mood and am gonna tear right the fuck through you. So if you isolate a person from all social, sexual or any other need that isn't a primary need (that which keeps him alive) the person will be happy and content? You're saying that in the entirety of human history there has never been a person that felt any compulsion to acquire more than just food, air and shelter? Your presence here on a subreddit about self-actualization is rock-solid proof tha…
/r/MGTOW09/06/17 10:00 PM
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You know what really makes me lose my shit? Calling shit that is pleasurable addicting. There's a difference between: - cultivating a mental/physical dependence on porn because you respectively need it to fulfill an emotional need or jacked off so much your brain is building a resistance and simultaneously is associating it to survival and - Watching porn to get off because that's one of the daily needs you have. . Would you call the need to breathe, eat and sleep an addiction because a lack of …
/r/MGTOW09/06/17 08:26 PM
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I don't trust companies, period. Especially when it comes to values, morals, thoughts and opinions. The fact they aren't jumping on the women's equality bandwagon doesn't take the fact away they're using culture to sell a product. They're not busy with men's health and their well-being, they're busy with attributing a feeling to a product to sell that product. Is it okay for guys to have a personality that isn't the sum of advertised feelings? For everyone all guys that feel okay with letting th…
/r/MGTOW29/05/17 12:24 PM
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I literally read nothing of what you wrote after quoting me twice. First of all because you attack me personally and secondly because you totally didn't get what I was getting at. You're arguing with me on a content-level and confirming my suspicions of how you were going to be defensive. I hope you will someday understand what I tried to poke you into doing.
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 12:48 AM
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That's because women usually don't say shit that has substance. It's just to literally satisfy that need to express themselves. This is why men can't actually talk with women. Men speak to give information, women speak to lose information.
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 12:39 AM
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All I heard was: "We want to be able to control how you think by only allowing you to consume the things that suit us and our agenda." As much as I like to stop this blatant (it's not blatant if you're not redpilled) authoritarianism but frankly I am so far along with not caring that I just can't. I wonder, do these all government officials do this on purpose and is there a secret shadow government or some sort of agreement on how to run countries or is it just a misplaced sense of judgement on …
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 12:21 AM
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I am going to be an asshole here and force you to be critical towards your own ideas; Don't you think that ""He should be disbarred" because he [didn't live up to his potential of being a lawyer and therefor 'immune' to legal repercussions]" is exactly the kind of excuse women use to put more pressure on men to extract more utility from them? You're literally scolding the man for not being enough to live up to some ideal you have in your head; he wasn't able to defend himself because of whatever…
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 12:03 AM
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The thing that made me stop caring was that I realized I was tiny compared to the physical size of earth let alone in the universe. No matter what I do on an individual level, it won't matter in the grand scheme of things. That gives me peace and freedom because, if nothing I do has any meaningful impact on the world and the universe at large, why not do things that make me feel good and happy? What's the point of moderating your behavior if it won't matter in the end anyway. Let me put it this …
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 12:17 AM
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Thanks.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 04:28 PM
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You forgot the asterisks, mate. That doesn't count.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 06:40 PM
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See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sycv9Yqwcak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNUThlfQ2NE among others for more in-depth explanations.
/r/MGTOW12/04/17 04:42 PM
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You were right on the spot. I appreciate you having this kind of reaction and want to extend my thanks to you for taking the effort to write this all down. Just to make it a bit more clear; in the first two sentences you mention that I am ashamed to feel loved and that weakness is a monstrosity to me. You are totally right about that and I have an idea why I am so vulnerable to that shame and not wanting to be weak; whenever I try to talk with and 'ask for love' from my parents I am usually (sti…
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 11:18 AM
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I can see the sense in this. It's either one of two things if I think about it: - You got so much sex that you satiated a need you have or - Just like desperately wanting a new car/house/anything else hyped up, getting it, then realizing it didn't amount to what it was hyped up to be which eliminates the need in it's entirety and so you move on. I am not in the position (I am basically involuntarily celibate and I simply cannot pay a woman to be with me or touch me while I know I may be repulsiv…
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 06:33 PM
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Thank you, this is the kind of answer that actually helps. As much as I appreciate the other answers and the wisdom in them, they don't actually contribute to the request many a times an OP makes. I notice this often in general: people give an answer that they want to share and satisfies a need of their own (namely correcting or commenting on a certain statement) instead of giving an answer that someone else is asking for. This is the exact problem I am talking about; they comply the request wit…
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 04:14 PM
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The bay of pirates is your friend.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 09:06 PM
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I have. If you're familiar with mgtow and what it stands for then the movie adds nothing to your understanding whatsoever. I also think the director (Cassie Jaye) is proving the point that women are chameleons by making a documentary where she's the center of but also so virtue signal that she's in tune with what men want and therefor we should lower our guards. AWALT.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 09:04 PM
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Can confirm. A huge part of my own depression was that I had no control over my own life and that I wasn't able to do anything about the situation I was in. Surprise surprise, video games are made to be won.
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 03:55 PM
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Thanks for the kinds words, I appreciate it. They didn't specifically say that but you know the phenomenon; because we all know a truth about the world all of a sudden we're experts on everything and many questions can (and are) answered with a certain certainty and ease. Many here feel they have an edge (over bluepills) because they're redpilled. This translates to entire threads of people giving 'the absolute and correct answer' while not picking up on the actual request of some threads which …
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 06:08 PM
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I can be your confidant, anon. I have noticed that whenever I am truly vulnerable and want a listening ear or someone to just allow some sensitivity in feeling emotions I am most often met with the rage phase and an attitude of "Man up! We're men and don't need to be sensitive or emotional. That is cuck behavior and we don't pander to women." I totally understand that perspective and why people here react that way, but sometimes a man just needs someone to talk to and share stuff without unwante…
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 02:39 PM
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I don't understand. Why am I being downvoted? Never mind, it was the "(it makes sense, just read it again)" part. I wasn't referring to the article. I was referring to my sentence structure of having the word 'object' two times in a row.
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 08:47 PM
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Am I the only one creeped out by getting unconditional love and/or encouragement?? That's not how reality works; you get stuff from others because they want something from you. On the other hand; you must be the ultimate meta-cuck to want to have a literal sex-object object (it makes sense, just read it again) to what it's meant to do. Imagine our toasters not toasting our shit because we set it to setting 10 and burning the bread so it feels useless. Fucking cucks.
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 04:05 PM
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Do you know the allegory of the cave? That is what you're describing here; You've been out of the cave so long that all you did in the cave and all the social conventions that were used in the cave seem foreign to you. You have been subjected to so many other things than what the cave had to offer that you've forgotten it in its entirety. Now, when you approach the entrance of the cave again and shout your liberating wisdom to the people in the cave you're met with silence. The people within can…
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 04:00 PM
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I am not saying a physique should be absolutely proportionate to the force needed to do superhuman feats, that would be silly. What I am saying is that if superpowers do all the heavy lifting (pun intended) then the body of a superhero is irrelevant to the force required to do certain things. What I ultimately am trying to say is that superpowers enhance the normal bio-mechanics of a humanoid body. That means that in order for that body to actually exert itself on a superhuman level it needs to …
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 11:48 PM
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I could argue that a metahuman (like wonderwoman) can do stuff a human being at peak physical condition can't. The thing with that wonderwoman is that she's scrawny as fuck for the feats she's performing. She either has a massive amount of meta/magic/'fuck-you-I-have-a-vagina' backing up those feats (which basically means she's isn't even doing it on her own accord, lol) or she doesn't have that amount of bullshit behind her feats and she's lacking the physical representation of what those feats…
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 04:14 PM
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What I don't get (and when thinking about it, it becomes clear of course) is why the women aren't happy for their husbands/boyfriends fulfilling one of their dreams. Wouldn't you be very happy if your significant other would have that one thing that was one of their goals and makes them happy very much? They wouldn't. Just because the money isn't spent on them but also that something else has more value to a man than the women in their lives her. In other words; a fancy sports-car is the worst n…
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 08:50 PM
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Kek, no new information in those threads. "WGTOW is good for both sides" really means: "We are an enlightened group of women that are aware of what MGTOW is talking about and have founded a group that is an ally (alarm bells should be ringing in your head by now) so MGTOW can trust us" which translates to: "We are special and you can let your guard down" which basically is the chameleon syndrome. The second thread basically comes down to: "You go girl!" which is solipsism. . In essence; both tho…
/r/MGTOW15/03/17 10:51 PM
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This. The true red pill (not that scam of PUA) is becoming a business. Keep your wits about you gents; it's easy to resist when not tempted.
/r/MGTOW15/03/17 04:19 PM
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I think 'dumb' people don't have the mental capacity of abstract thought. They can't conjure up situations in their heads that are accurate to reality so they don't think ahead and so they act on their impulses instead of thinking about what the consequences may be for their actions let alone reflect on them. In other words; they operate more on instinct with a thin layer of 'thought' that isn't actual abstract thought but actually just cognitive functions that take the form of that voice we hea…
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 12:11 AM
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Funny how an absence of women made nothing of significance happen but the one time women are in charge of a small but critical task (snow cleaning) an entire city shuts down. And don't give me the crap of the patriarchy keeping you down because if it did, you'd be in the kitchen making sandwiches.
/r/MGTOW09/03/17 04:52 PM
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She wasn't smelling mgtow mate, she was smelling the green in your wallet.
/r/MGTOW09/03/17 04:41 PM
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The problem doesn't lie in that the therapist isn't interested in her problems. They genuinely are because they want their clients to genuinely be the best version of themselves they can be. The problem lies in that the person receiving therapy (i.e. modern feminist women) has a skewed image of what it means to be suffering. Being an entitled speshul snowflake and not getting what you want isn't a mental illness and isn't actually suffering. The daily grind isn't suffering and feeling that confl…
/r/MGTOW09/03/17 04:37 PM
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Get ready for a 'red pill takeover' where red isn't enough and women will go full chameleon-mode and make it 'the pink pill' by saying some shit about how women care about men and that they(!) just as much want what's good for men as men do. If you're awake, you'll notice how what I just said is a form of female solipsism; they made an issue men are passionate about (hypergamy and male disposability) and made it about themselves by putting themselves in the center of attention. Mark my words; ev…
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 03:43 PM
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It's shit. It's more about MRA's (and how they want 'equality' between the sexes) rather than an actual meritocracy. No such talk of individuals getting what they deserve but instead having a 'level' playing field where the issues of men are just as much addressed as those of women (i.e. a little less gynocentric but still gynocentric). MGTOW get's a literal one sentence mention and that's that. Documentaries should be informative first (and agenda driven of course) and anything else second. Thi…
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 03:25 PM
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The only difference between past civilizations and ours is that we have a tool to document and store massive amounts of information; the internet. If we as a species are worth our salt we have to prove that we will learn from our past mistakes and learn from the shit we have documented up until now. Unfortunately, I suspect we won't; emotions will always trump reason and there are far more people still plugged in to the system (both in a MGTOW/matrix perspective as well as the 'abstract thinking…
/r/MGTOW05/03/17 08:20 PM
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To be honest, fucking until I die isn't such a bad way to go. Instead of living this life agonizing over how to keep my instincts not screaming at me 24//7 I can satisfy them and die anyway. 10/10 would want to have a succubus want my dick so bad she'll fuck me to death.
/r/MGTOW04/03/17 05:38 PM
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Just the news of a below average IQ shouldn't make you stop wanting to pursue an interest. Who gives a fuck if you aren't the brightest bulb? You're predicting an 'I can't compete' without even knowing that it will be that way. If you're really interested in STEM and you find it fun to do you'll get through. Besides an IQ test isn't a measure of intelligence, it's a measure of how well you take IQ tests. I am not in the mood to be a mommy here and make everyone feel good about themselves but it …
/r/MGTOW03/03/17 11:27 AM
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Let me share you how I got over my depressed period. I didn't let myself feel the things my body naturally reacts to. I was trying to deliberately not feel any bad feelings because duh, they feel unpleasant. What this did in me was like a pressurecooker; it made me feel frustrated and angry because I couldn't express myself and in turn I would do the same to that anger and frustration which was to keep it crammed inside myself. Once I learned to allow the emotions, I noticed in myself that I fel…
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 10:26 PM
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I see, thanks for the advice. How come you figure it's a dominance issues on his part?
/r/MGTOW25/02/17 04:37 PM
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What I mean is that you shouldn't bother with people still plugged into the matrix. Once they start to suspect (they want to know on their own) through experiences they went through then is the time to 'strike'. That's why I used the analogy of a muscle that's starved of fuel; a muscle needs glycogen to function and when it has none it acts like a sponge to any glycogen in the bloodstream. The same is true for men who want to learn how to make the pain of gynocentrism go away; they are in mental…
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 03:35 PM
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If you come across a boy/man like that who's seeking for answers like a muscle acting like a sponge for glycogen after physical exertion, be kind and plant the seed of MGTOW in his mind. If he's worth his salt he'll figure out what MGTOW is.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 01:50 PM
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matured to his own age This is a phenomenon that comes with being a slave to others. You can't afford to be play-, cheer- or joyful because nothing is for shits and giggles anymore. You could say that the stoic, silent provider that often also was a father is just that because he has no other choice and if you are 'childish' because you don't have those worries you're told to 'man up'. The idea that you think you haven't 'matured to your own' age is the remnant of social conditioning and an expe…
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 11:06 PM
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It's simple really, with responsibility comes authority. If you want me to be responsible for the outcome of your life and livelihood then you bet your ass I am going to tell you what to do and you're going to like it too. You can't expect someone to be responsible for something without getting to call the shots. You can't expect to be autonomous with decision making and having other people be responsible for your own fuck ups. Nooooo, if things go bad men are the ones to blame but if women succ…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 12:36 AM
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I guess this is a reminder why MGTOW's decentralized nature is one of its strengths but also one of its weaknesses. You can't have a group of true individuals without the group falling apart. You need some adhesive qualities between the members so the group doesn't fall apart be it somesort of idea, concept or activity. In other words; if the only thing you have in common (which makes you a group) is that you're all individuals then the group doesn't have enough cohesion to stay together.
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 08:19 PM
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"Hall of BBC", kek. That's either one major Freudian slip or it actually means "Hall of Beta Buck Cucks".
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 05:24 PM
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Does anyone have that image of a quote from someone (if I recall correctly it's a woman that made it) where if the woman doesn't need consent from the father to keep the baby the father shouldn't be financially responsible for the child?
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 03:18 PM
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Does income factor into this? I assume that if you take care of yourself physically and have a good income (from years of experience in a field) that you're seen as more attractive than someone in their 30's with less of those same things. I guess not having a wife contributes to having a good income and being able to take care of yourself.
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 02:26 PM
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A strong mind is hard to control. If you can manage to make someone's mind crack and unstable you can inject ideas and tell them what to do. It's easy to overpower someone when you're physically stronger but it's much harder when you are weaker; if you want to get what you want from someone that's stronger than you what you need to do is manipulate (surprise, surpise) them, the environment and even yourself to get what you want. It's basically a form of warfare; maximize your own advantages whil…
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 01:59 PM
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This is relevant to my interests. What are the golden ages for men? I am in my early 20's myself so a prospect of good times gives me hope.
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 01:45 PM
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I agree with the sentiment that faimily isn't inherently there to be there for you. An example is my father; I am much like my father and as stubborn as I am he is as well. Because he has needs, feelings and expectations and he's stubborn he has never been there for my needs. All claims of loving me or being there for me have the fundament of satisfying one of his needs. In other words; if I had found something that worked for me and it didn't resonate with him he would oppose it despite his cla…
/r/MGTOW24/01/17 07:17 PM
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How come you're inclined to believe that it actually was sexual?
/r/MGTOW24/01/17 01:47 PM
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Yes. It's basically a scale with two arms; on one side is MGTOW and on the other is my natural reaction. Because I have particular knowledge I manage to keep MGTOW heavier but sometimes the natural reaction is heavier than the knowledge. The difference between my behavior would be that I won't mentally dismiss her if I am not aware of MGTOW but but would try to if I have MGTOW knowledge like I am trying now. The issue is that sometimes the feeling is so strong that even thinking about it rationa…
/r/MGTOW24/01/17 01:37 PM
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Thing is, there are differences between how different companies are run by certain men. You can find good ones but unfortunately also shitty ones. Women on the other hand are always in permanent-drama mode because that's how they are.
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 08:03 PM
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Funny thing is, if the person that got that letter didn't keep the door held open he'd probably have gotten a letter to not be disrespectful towards coworkers or not be a team-player and whatnot. Feelings have no place on the workfloor and when used as weapons to influence hiring practices (not hired because too dominant, fired because not teamplayer etc.) you have a very clear image of how that company is feminized and values feelings over merit. There's a difference between actually not being …
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 12:43 PM
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Well then, I'd rather be unattractive and free (of stress) than be a Chad on the plantation. Good day to you Sir. Psst, chads are treated well because they are good targets to leech off of. That's why they're not treated like shit and proves that women are hypergamous and solipsistic. MGTOW means you reject that idea; chads can be MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 12:52 PM
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Go join an outfit (kind of a clan) and play planetside 2. Nothing more competitive than literally hundreds of dudes competing to shoot eachother in the face with varying degrees of succes
/r/MGTOW12/01/17 12:40 PM
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Go on a date. If you at any time feel more like an ATM rather than an individual with wants, needs and what not you've found the reason to become MGTOW. That is, if you can manage to arrange a date. Because remember; all women are like that.
/r/MGTOW09/01/17 05:16 PM
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Yes. Just a tip; a 'too long; didn't read' TL;DR does wonders.
/r/MGTOW09/01/17 05:06 PM
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Ben shapiro isn't MGTOW in any way shape or form, but you can learn a lot from the way he thinks and how he arguments the insanity of the left. The way he arguments the fallacies the left uses can be a lot of insight in how to defend yourself from people that want to tear you down through emotions and blue-pill thinking processes.
/r/MGTOW06/01/17 09:16 PM
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His second video makes me angry and I am going to vent here about it. What's the point of fighting in the last place? We came from chemicals and it took us billions of years to be a system (the human body) that tries to maximize succes for as little effort as possible. Evolution never took into consideration that there's a finite amount of resources on this earth; evolution had free reign but now our own instincts and evolutionary programming means that we are inevitably going to destroy ourselv…
/r/MGTOW05/01/17 11:38 PM
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It's anybody's guess really. There obviously won't be any research done on these subjects firstly because of ethical reasons but I think gynocentrism also plays a part.
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 04:25 PM
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I agree that hypergamy isn't the only thing in women's minds that has any traction on her behavior, however I do think it's the highest thing to be achieved if her psychology was a pyramid. I don't think solipsism is half of the endgoal/her libido (hypergamy + solipsism) like you describe it. I think hypergamy is the ultimate goal but solipsism is the basis for the shit tests which are in turn needed to further the hypergamy. If I understand you correctly you're saying that there's two goals in …
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 03:33 PM
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I understand your point. The only flaw with your hypothesis is that women always see a better candidate in other men than their current partner even if her current partner is objectively better. Let me put it this way; humans need variety in their lives and get bored with the same thing when they have to deal with it over and over again. If you combine that need for variety with hypergamy, the pool of potential candidates is literally bottomless. Also, like others have said in this thread: human…
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 03:03 PM
6

The most important thing I did that made me get past my red pill rage was that I realized that women don't do what they do on a conscious basis. Women literally are just creatures that follow their nature and because there's nothing to challenge that nature (gynocentrism takes care of that) they are the way they are. Once you realize that women won't have integrity and personal agency and responsibility without a great amount of effort (just like men) and that effort will never take place becaus…
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 02:59 PM
23

Doesn't matter what the fuck you fill your life with. A MGTOW is only a MGTOW if he realizes society is gynocentric and men are considered disposable and ATMs. I don't give a fuck if you wank 7 times a day or play WoW all day long or if you don't do anything but stare at the wall; the only thing you shouldn't do if you want to be MGTOW is be a slave to women (and by extension to society) through your wallet by slaving yourself to death. Too long; didn't fucking read: MGTOW = not being a wageslav…
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 07:42 PM
5

Generally people who bash MGTOW are the people that don't understand it. It's easy to misrepresent a concept and then bash your own misrepresentation of that concept because it isn't argumentatively sound. It's easy for me to have a preconceived notion about any random concept/idea that I am not familiar with and build my argument solely based off that preconceived notion. TL;DR: Argue (for) the objective content of an idea instead of basing your argument on ignorance.
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 02:15 PM
1

Men have a raw deal nowadays. Biology dictates that men and women work in different ways and therefor have different values. Men are the workhorses and women are the childbearers. To combat all women flocking to the top 20% of men and harems beginning to form things like the nuclear family and religion were put into place to ensure every man got exactly one (1) woman to take care of. The reason for this is that society becomes more stable once you have a happy male population that isn't literall…
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 07:48 PM
5

Of course honey. More knowledgable and wise people have told you that accepting (muslim) immigrants that aren't compatible with your own culture would lead to bad things and just like a child is stubborn you refused to listen and accept what you were told. You didn't even make them assimilate your own culture as to make them fit in as much as possible; you wanted to be 'diverse' and 'tolerant' as to preserve their identity but look where it has gotten you. Instead of owning up to your mistake, r…
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 12:44 PM
3

The main issue I personally have experienced is that 'education' isn't an institution where children and young people learn the world around them and the wealth of knowledge it provides. Current time education only serves to make the students learn how to take tests. Once you're done with the test you can flush the mental toilet and never use that knowledge again. The things you learn at school are how to remember instead of remembering a vocation or actual useful knowledge. You get exercises th…
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 12:41 AM
11

I always start from a perspective of the highest possible amount of individual freedom without infringing on other people's freedom (aka libertarianism and the non-aggression principle). If I say something that offends you I have not taken any of your freedom away i.e. I didn't remove or limit you to exercise your freedoms. You are free to (not) feel offended but I am in no way obligated to do and say stuff to keep you from being offended. Your freedom to not be offended isn't maintained by limi…
/r/MGTOW23/12/16 06:16 PM
2

Nope. She isn't admitting shit. What she's preaching is basically a variant of "stronk independent wymyn". If she had said something along the lines of: "Women get married because we don't want to work for our money while still be able to spend it.", then I'd give her some props. Not this uplifting delusional selfhelp bullshit. Women, if you want to speak truth and be sure you're speaking only the truth then acknowledge that 99% of the things you enjoy in your comfortable life today was conceptu…
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 01:26 AM
6

Your personal reason for not seeing value in porn doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't get to have the freedom to choose whether or not to consume porn. Stop forcing other people to do things through the government and people will prosper on their own. We don't need some inefficient money-wasting political organ to tell us what is individually good for us. Edit: after actually reading the article it seems to me there's a clear cut reason they're doing this: they want you to remove the limi…
/r/MGTOW19/12/16 12:12 PM
21

I think the people that are smart/educated/critical have more of a fundamental understanding of reality ranging from the futility of life (kek, trying to survive on this minuscule rock in the vastness of the universe) to the sheer fact we're just input/output machines that they have found peace in being alone. The 'dumb' people are just that; ignorant. Which isn't necessarily bad but have been indulged in many if not all of their needs (eliminating a need to be critical of their surroundings). L…
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 07:02 PM
1

And working for someone without payment is... precisely what you tell yourself it is. If someone isn't willing to help someone else (note: I didn't appeal to your emotion or humanity by writing "another human being") because they feel that makes them a utility dispenser then that's their full right even without considering MGTOW in the first place. It's also in their full right to help them if they choose to do so for whatever reason they might think of. All I am saying is that if you want to be…
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 11:59 AM
13

I get both sides (being decent vs. choosing not to help) but I think we need to acknowledge that some MGTOW choose to not help women and others want to help everyone out of decency. My opinion is this; as long as you can defend yourself from being an utility-dispenser (and only you as an individual can decide where the line for you is and when it's crossed) then you can live your life however you want. Keep in mind though; you have to have the "not being a utility-dispenser" as the starting poin…
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 10:35 PM
1

I used to think like this until I realized going 'my' way isn't MGTOW. MGTOW is the idea that men are tired of being the workhorses of society without getting any credit for it. Heck, it's claimed (white) men as a class are not the genesis of society but the root of all evil that taints the western world. In a sense being MGTOW requires that you have a fundamental basis of not wanting to be a utility-dispenser to society. If we could trade our labor for an equal amount of whatever, we would. It'…
/r/MGTOW05/12/16 11:27 PM
1

Hurr durr, 7 billion people on the earth and everyone should look and act different. It's physically impossible for 7 billion of any species to be individually unique.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 12:50 PM
18

Especially for a femanon She's attention whoring and virtue signalling, literally stopped reading right there.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 12:38 PM
2

I don't know, what do you think?
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 12:37 PM
24

MGTOW doesn't mean being a dick. MGTOW means you reject the cultural standard of men being utility dispensers and not having any rights while having all the responsibilities. The fact that you helped someone who's struggling doesn't mean you automatically are a slave to them, sheesh. Have some common fucking decency.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 12:36 PM
1

I personally could see what you mean but sometimes comments need a statement of its intent to make sure what the author means. See Poe's law.
/r/MGTOW16/11/16 02:29 PM
3

You forgot a "/s".
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 07:12 PM
2

All this attention for the well being of women but not one single word about how men could have a better life. Men supposedly made everything that liberated women but we aren't even in the picture; not even in this 'neutral' (which is a stretch) video about the place of men in society. This woman doesn't realize how women behave right now is exactly like they were evolutionarily programmed; get as much shit as you can by virtue of the pussypass. This is exactly what women want, women want to do …
/r/MGTOW14/11/16 06:02 PM
4

There's a difference between having decency and being tolerant; decency doesn't exclude the possibility of needing to defend yourself against things and people that may harm or be a detriment to you. You can be nice to people and help them if they need some help but I sure as hell don't need to accept people, ideas or situations that may make me worse off than if I wasn't in contact with those. I retain the right to do whatever I want as long as those freedoms don't impede on others' freedoms. M…
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 12:07 PM
2

That woman hasn't hit the wall. She has gone through it full force many years ago, never lost momentum and is back at the same hole she created all those years ago.
/r/MGTOW02/11/16 03:44 PM
4

That's true. Learn this and learn it good: 90% (which is a made up percentage, sue me) of what women tell you (and by extension what is part of gynocentric society) is projection. It was a red pill in a red pill and I realized every time a woman shames or verbally abuses a man chances are she herself is precisely what she's telling the guy he is. Example: "You're a selfish bastard for not taking care of your children and having a job and not doing chores when you're not working!" Translation: "I…
/r/MGTOW02/11/16 07:34 AM
30

They are creating nothing, they are consuming. If you play video games and you watch porn, you are a consumer in the worst sense and you end up creating nothing. Translation: men have to be productive to be a legitimate part of society. Stopped watching right then and there. I don't live my life according to what other people need. I may give to charity or help my neighbors because I think that it's a good cause but I am obligated to do precisely jack squat and I sure as hell don't need to 'be p…
/r/MGTOW01/11/16 09:42 PM
7

You're MGTOW. What do you think?
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 12:29 PM
8

This. If the citizens of a nation aren't willing to defend the nation they're living in, the nation doesn't deserve to exist. Let me put it this way; would you give your life for a nation that has piss all to do with your rights and needs? In fact, I'd dare to argue that when a nation is good to and protects its citizens' rights, those citizens will either defend it on their own accord (with their own weapons) or voluntarily enlist in the military.
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 05:49 PM
3

My intention wasn't to criticize you. I wanted to show some empathy by trying to tell you that everyone makes a mistake once in a while and if you learn from your mistake you could try to not make it again. Personally it doesn't matter to me what happens to you in your life, but if this is your response to friendly at best and neutral at worst advice then you may need to reflect on if you deserve whether or not you deserve all the shit you get. My 0.02 cents.
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 01:16 PM
4

Don't be sorry. Making mistakes is human. Be sorry if you won't learn from this.
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 11:42 AM
1

I can relate. Aside from what OP is talking about I am also a third generation (both sets of my grandparents were the first of the family to come to the country I live in right now) immigrant child. I am considered a foreigner in my 'motherland' as well as in the country I currently live in, because of this not many people from either countries see me as a peer and I am treated differently through direct action (think being asked questions that you wouldn't be asked if you weren't a foreigner) o…
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 12:08 AM
1

Well, in the spirit of MGTOW (which you disagree with): Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 11:00 AM
1

Then we definitely disagree, lol
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 10:42 PM
1

I am curious, what is your interpretation of MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 10:25 PM
1

Wrong. ~ Donad Trump. MGTOW is nothing but a personal declaration that the #1 in your life is you. How you give meaning to that is up to the individual.
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 10:20 PM
3

Just to have this said; I don't have any right to tell others how to live their lives. I don't condemn people for making choices, or even choices that didn't work out so well in hindsight. It's human to make bad decisions; ain't no soul blaming you for that. It's making decisions without a solid basis of having thought about it that annoys me. Take the guy I was originally talking about for instance. He goes backpacking, returns, only to see the 'toxicity' and 'mindless consumerism' in the world…
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 09:50 PM
10

The thing is; when people go on these 'breaks' where they go on a "no-income backpacking lifestyle" what they don't realize is that in order for them to be able to be so free and careless to need no money in a protected environment (society) it actually takes the mindless spending of currency to achieve that society. Imagine a society that is similar to the middle ages. Many are farmers and some are merchants. If everyone has to work for their livelihood then there is no room to be piggyback-rid…
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 07:50 PM
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Can someone give me a TL;DR? I am a little fuzzy on the details with the entire gamergate ordeal. As well as what the OP is trying to say. Thanks in advance.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 11:39 PM
2

Google it. I'm too lazy to search for it right now.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 03:10 PM
16

I believe it's called the Streisand effect.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 01:27 PM
2

Maybe I've been playing too much World of Warcraft lately, but the middle one suspiciously looks like an orc. A male one, that is.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 11:06 AM
26

The "A" stands for Art, for the people that don't want to read the article. Art has nothing to do with sciences.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 05:16 PM
7

This. It's easy to reject something that can overtly harm you. The feminists are using the 'chameleon syndrome' tactic as Sol_Install in this thread describes. Be careful in the future brothers, you know what women are like. Don't be fooled by their 'interest' in you when they realize shaming you doesn't work and are resorting to feigning interest to gain your trust.
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 08:38 PM
1

I agree with smaller soldiers being better due to needing less space and food and whatnot, but don't shorter soldiers have more trouble (which is relative compared to the average citizen) with things a bigger soldier could have more ease doing such as carry heavy loads (which include weapons), walk longer and faster, etc?
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 01:32 PM
3

I am getting angry with the nonchalance people use when they talk about 'gender equality', as if it's a common knowledge that it's true and virtue signalling it. Finally a sex doll for women!? What about the sexual needs of men? Men can either use their hand or (ironically) fuck themselves. There's enough female-oriented sexual toys on the market. It's time for men to be as free as women can be on the sexual playing field, but no; everything masculine is bad and male sexuality is just a precurso…
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 09:08 PM
1

Exactly my point. A military is there to defend the country and painting a plane pink because women have breast cancer is a direct detriment in the ability to defend the country because a pink target is easier to hit than a target that was engineered to be as effective as possible in combat.
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 05:24 PM
1

Women are good at projecting. Listen closely to what they claim you to be and in reality it's what they themselves are.
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 04:15 PM
4

Jesus christ, even in a society where women are supposedly as worse of as feminists claim it to be I'd rather have a proper aircraft that can defend my shit before it being shot down to being painted in a pretty color because titty cancer. What would you rather have, respect for cancer victims or a country that isn't a giant heap of smoldering ash. Jesus Christ the solipsism of women knows no bounds.
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 04:10 PM
3

Quite frankly, I actually can't get women. Doesn't hold me back from not wanting to be with them and knowing what their sexual strategy is. The guy that told OP off probably is more BP than he realizes. Just because you're unattractive doesn't mean you should be chasing the pussy, as if only handsome men have the option of getting to not chase pussy. As if being unattractive means you have to be at the mercy of pretty women. Please, give me a break. Am I supposed to be such a beta (as in, follow…
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 03:55 PM
3

Lol. What it actually says: Learn to code for free What they're trying to say: Learn to code. For free. What it actually is saying: Learn, to code for free. What the actual meaning is behind the movement: We want free engineers.
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 10:41 AM
-2

Why don't you shut the fuck up and leave if you don't like what other people want to share? /rant
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 10:35 AM
8

Some people that come here are in the rage-phase. That being said, it's natural that the tone of those posts are more harsh and impolite because they are trying to deal with their anger. Take that ferocity with a grain of salt. Once you realize women act the way they do because of instincts (hypergamy aka marying up) they can let go of the anger because they realize that it's the default way of women. It's like a dog wagging it's tail when it's happy: pure instinct. See my other comment. It take…
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 12:19 PM
1

I didn't have any to start with, but the one thing I did lose was the need to have them and also trying really hard to keep the ones I was interested in being friends with.
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 02:43 PM
4

Don't underestimate social pressure from peers and authority figures. Being an impressionable boy and being bombarded with messages like these at such an early age without differing points of view could make for a very bad combination. The boys probably don't have the critical thinking skills that not even a small portion of adults have. Combine social pressure and lack of critical thinking skills and you have a human being that has no chance of defending himself against something that objective…
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 09:26 PM
1

This makes me sad, angry and afraid all at the same time. How far are feminists mentally ill women willing to go to in order to dismantle an imagined phenomenon, and how far are people that can see through the facade going to allow them to poison future generations like this? I am by no means saying that we should censor or otherwise forcefully handle people to do things we want, so how can we make the point come across without censoring or using (verbal) violence of how wrong feminists are? The…
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 09:18 PM
7

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. ~George Orwell, Animal farm.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 04:51 PM
3

I don't think we should poke the bear as it's already trying to angrily go to sleep. Women are already fucking it up for themselves by having antics like this. If female shop owners keep this shit up there will be a nice separation of services and goods being offered just by virtue of the 'man-tax'; look for the goods and services that don't explicitly detriment the male consumer and you will automatically have stores that lack the crazy feminists. It's a win-win in any case for men because wome…
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 07:22 PM
5

It would be nice wouldn't it? We could signify good shops and services by the simple fact you don't have to pay extra because you have a penis. Less women in the store because they won't want to shop in a store where 'fighting inequality' isn't taken into consideration and we also get to pay less than others for the same product.
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 05:17 PM
8

I don't even have to read further than the title to know what's up: NYC Pharmacy Slaps Male Shoppers with 7% ‘Man Tax’ to Fight Gender Inequality and Trump.
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 05:15 PM
3

Vomit-filled skinbag fuckheel scum Somehow okay while: And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything. isn't. Leftist/progressive/SJW logic everyone.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 03:17 PM
0

Mothers really have the best position from a feminist standpoint; your child is supposed to infinitely and unconditionally love you because reasons. If you're a mother that uses the "I birthed you" argument to get what you want out of your child you deserve to not have your child love you and should be ashamed to use such a authoritative position to force your child to do stuff. All it does is signify to me that you're a bad mother because you can't handle your child. It's like trying to get a d…
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 02:16 PM
3

Jesus Christ. Literally not one comment in (given it was the top comment which is saying something on it's own) and women start shaming. It's like MGTOW justifies itself by just existing.
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 04:08 PM
1

Figures. The moment women are even slightly negatively impacted something has to be done. The one time a single study that claims women are 'working themselves to death' all hell breaks loose (allow some hyperbole here) and we have to do everything we can to make it go away. But no one bats an eye when another batch of men is killed in a collapsed coal mine or kill themselves by the hundreds.
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 07:02 PM
2

bwhahaha, fucking #rekt. Just a reminder: hard work =/= more money/promotion. Vagina is.
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 06:52 PM
2

Nah, fuck that. I ain't lying to cover my ass. I made a contract with my boss for a certain amount of my time a week for a certain amount of money. I'll gladly do stuff withing that timeframe, but every nanosecond outside of it I don't have to listen to jack squat my boss says. Either pay me for the time you want need me, or be happy with me not doing shit for the company.
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 06:48 PM
9

Doesn't matter one bit fam. MGTOW isn't strong because we have numbers, MGTOW is strong because there's nothing to destroy; the idea of 'MGTOW' and the essence of not giving a fuck makes it strong. If all 'members' of a group don't need the group to exist to actually adhere to the idea's of the concept then the size of that group doesn't matter. It does matter in a practical/political/financial/whatever sense that the men aren't acting like society wants them to, but for MGTOW as a group, it's s…
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 08:32 PM
2

I realize that in the grand scheme of things and on a cosmic level it doesn't matter what I do. Such a thing as wanting a 'legacy' is a manifestation of human needs. It's the need for having purpose and that my life supposedly wasn't a waste which in turn requires something positive/a net gain that came out of my life. Once you realize that everything you do is due to your genes (and biological imperative) and that ultimately nothing matters as far as we know right now then you will also realize…
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 01:07 PM
3

It's not even being free. Being free for me was the catalyst to not feel guilty anymore for choosing for myself. Once I let go of that guilt I could almost feel the lifeforce coursing through my veins. I feel the appreciation my body has for breathing, the sense of clarity with which I can physically see the world around me through my eyes. I repeat; I love to live and I love to be alive.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 08:32 PM
6

Because women have this elaborate mental system in place which exonerates them of any guilt, bad feelings and any other character-diminishing quality that telling them something that is truthful and slices right through this system of bullshit that is propped up on duct-tape and sticks in the form of friends and social media means they have to deal with something which makes them less of a (good) person. Instead of owning up to the thing they did wrong or badly and saying: "I fucked up. I will t…
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 09:56 AM
8

I think women's ration and feelings are battling each other. Their conscious mind is telling them they want to be equal and same rights and all that shit but their sexual reproduction circuits in their brain tell them she needs an alpha male who basically is a savage. Logical as men are we supply what the women ask and they want but not what they need and in turn the women aren't satisfied. It's like giving a child candy all day and it still is hungry because it hasn't gotten proper nutrients.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 10:18 AM
2

Well, mr. Herbivore man, as much as I agree with your sentiment, who the fuck are you to tell us what MGTOW is about? Fuck. You. Too. PS: I agree with him, I am trying to make a point that it doesn't matter shit what anyone expects of you when you truly are MGTOW or what anyone else is doing for that matter.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 06:32 AM
1

The feminist one doesn't make any sense. First of all it's passive-aggressive as fuck and second of all because a portion of a specific population is bad and the chance exists that associating with one of them means there's a chance that you will come into contact with a bad one doesn't mean the entirety of that specific population is bad. It's like saying any random apple can have a worm inside of which (in feminist 'logic') means that all of them by default have a worm in them. The trump image…
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 09:47 AM
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Funny thing is, she's actually proving the point. A man has an opinion and the woman shames him for having an opinion that hurts her feelings.
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 06:52 PM
1

There will be some people that think a certain way of living is the MGTOW way such as living off the grid in the bush bush and things like that. But if you look at what MGTOW is at it's core, you can do whatever the fuck you want. As I have said before; MGTOW is the framework (which essentially says that you can do whatever you want) and has no content. You're the only one that can fill the specific MGTOW framework that you may choose to carry on your shoulders. That being said, there can be an …
/r/MGTOW23/08/16 09:16 PM
1

You glorious motherfucker, if you are capable of sustaining a cashflow of $5,400 to yourself then there's something you're doing right.
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 05:19 PM
2

ITT: People that don't get what MGTOW is. It's all fine and dandy you found a way of thinking that may be 'one-upping' other ways of thinking because we're supposedly redpilled, but that doesn't mean you get to tell others in our 'layer' in the hierarchy what to do. In fact, I'd dare to argue that according to MGTOW there even isn't an hierarchy in how to think. Even if there actually was a hierarchy with objectively better ways to think then MGTOW wouldn't even be on it, negating the entire obj…
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 05:11 PM
11

It's funny really. If you don't give a fuck about being an alpha or not, you're more alpha than doing everything you can to be more alpha. Basically; Stop. Giving. Fucks.
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 03:25 PM
21

I think AWALT isn't the actual behavior of women. I think AWALT is the biological programming all women have in their brain which is to go for the best provider they can find. So with that being said, actually being an AWALT means that particular woman had an easy time and no shame in picking the best partner (basically the spoiled strong and independent feminist) because she didn't have to do anything to get attention (the internet and apps like tinder) and was raised to believe she deserves al…
/r/MGTOW20/08/16 03:11 PM
1

Thanks for that. It makes sense when I think about in that way.
/r/MGTOW18/08/16 12:27 AM
2

I guess my comment wasn't perceived as I intended it, I basicallywanted to make a poop joke hence the crap and shit but I could have handled it better.
/r/MGTOW18/08/16 12:24 AM
3

When you realize that your needs are a product of evolution and there's no purpose to them, you kinda naturally let them go. Whenever you feel the need for intimacy or warmth, don't do anything with the feeling. Just let it be. As if you're looking at the feeling from the outside. Try to figure out where it's coming from and if you do find out accept it for what it is. It's basically how you meditate; try to be in a neutral state and whenever a thought pops up in your head, let it take it's natu…
/r/MGTOW17/08/16 02:16 PM
4

No one gives a crap about what you do with your life mate, so please just keep your shit to yourself.
/r/MGTOW17/08/16 02:08 PM
1

I don't understand. I may have used the expression "blank is to blank what blank is to blank" wrong. If so, please explain to me how to use that expression. Yeah, after looking at the comparison I realize I fucked that up. What I meant was that sex and biology are factual and real things. that can be empirically proven and gender and culture can build upon those things. You have a penis? Your sex is male. You have a vagina? Your sex is female. Would it be better if I used the expression in a way…
/r/MGTOW13/08/16 09:52 PM
1

Aposematism. (EDIT: I usually don't read the OP.) On a more serious note, it's because it supposedly makes them special in their eyes. They supposedly have a hair color that is unique or some shit not realizing that they are one of the drones of women thinking they are a special snowflake. Just like Syndrome (from the incredibles) said: "When everyone is super, no one will be."
/r/MGTOW09/08/16 05:41 PM
7

This. Our decisions as humankind will never lose the emotional angle. This is because the vast majority of people are not aware that they are being controlled by their emotions. Every little thing they think they are rational about are actually just psychological mechanisms. Even the most educated people on this earth can't not succumb to that part of their brain. There's not a single person on this earth that is not subject to their instincts; there's no such thing as a rational person. Even th…
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 11:29 PM
5

Watch the entire thing. It's actually pretty fun to listen to the truth this guy is spreading.
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 11:11 PM
3

Thank you for your post (because clearly you don't understand MGTOW) because now I have an excuse for saying this: Fuck you and your opinion.
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 06:59 PM
5

I think social media brings out the worst of people. It's not women's fault they evolved to go for the guy that will provide for them the best. In fact, it's actually a very viable strategy for survival; don't do anything but be pretty and get taken care of because you provide a solution to someone else's base primal need. The problem begins when the world is so connected you literally have social interaction at your fingertips. Combine a biological imperative to find the best provider with an a…
/r/MGTOW06/08/16 06:50 PM
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I found a very powerful and insanely complex flowchart (I still haven't figured it out) the other day which may be relevant to your struggles: https://postimg.org/image/hu4xf154h/
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 07:21 PM
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No, in my opinion it isn't. As far as I know monks are religious people and follow a religion (be it Christianity or Buddhism or whatever). This by default makes them anything but MGTOW. MGTOW is doing what you want. Following a religion directly contradicts MGTOW. Would it make sense to you if told you that you can cook/bake anything you want but you have to do this very specific dish? MGTOW isn't the content, MGTOW is the framework; MGTOW is a window's panes where the glass of said window can …
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 01:20 PM
1

This is the MGTOW anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAfsP5AAiYo
/r/MGTOW02/08/16 05:25 PM
1

The fuck? Why was this post deleted?
/r/MGTOW01/08/16 04:57 PM
1

If you feel offended, I apologize. I encourage you making this thread (in the spirit of MGTOW, who am I to tell anyone to live their lives?). I sometimes feel the need to remember people that MGTOW isn't a fixed set of ideals; MGTOW is more a framework than anything else. Compare it with something like this: Rule #1: There are no rules; Rule #2: Rule 1 is always correct. MGTOW is more a paradox than anything else; if you really go your own way and you decide MGTOW isn't worth subscribing to, doe…
/r/MGTOW01/08/16 02:42 PM
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Nothing, get the fuck off my back with your 'self improvement' bullshit. My MGTOW isn't your MGTOW. Fuck you and your face. /sarcasm Seriously though; MGTOW fundamentally isn't about self improvement. It's about doing whatever the fuck YOU as a person want to do. Being a fat lazy slob is as viable as wanting to/actually improving yourself. As the hodgetwins so memetically say: "Do whatever the fuck you want to do."
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 11:31 PM
4

Well then, if they aren't giving you shit (in any way you can interpret this), don't give them shit back.
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 01:40 PM
3

You know what's funny? I actually settled for the 4000 dollar lunchbox because I felt guilty for wanting something useless. Now women, they don't have that kind of introspection. Thank the lord I discovered MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 09:11 PM
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Motherfucker this makes me angry! We all get the blame and none of the slack while we (as a generation) have literally done nothing to warrant the blame let alone done anything bad at all.
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 10:14 PM
3

Hopefully some of the negative shit you go through gets you to question, but if life is easy then you'll probably just get married without really questioning. This is integral to thinking critically. If you have an easy life (think chad or dumb bombshell) then there's no need to question the things around you. If you come into contact with things that challenge you as a person, makes you feel cognitive dissonance and stuff that makes you feel bad in general you will cultivate character. If every…
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 03:22 PM
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This is what I hear when I read stuff like that: Evidence disproves my feelings and therefor they don't have any merit, which I don't like. My feelings go before anything else so stop using legit evidence to counter me and my feelings. TL;DR: feels over reals
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 02:51 PM
3

That's cool bruv. You do you the best you can. Myself though? I can't resist ordering a good pizza or nice new electronics for in my mancave house once in a while.
/r/MGTOW25/07/16 08:33 PM
2

Let them (by which I mean feminists and hollywood alike) do this as much as they want. The moment there's nothing left to invade and make a profit off of they will have realized it's already too late. Hollywood by pandering to feminists and their need to invade male spaces (which includes works of entertainment) will see that the moment there are no spaces left to invade, the 'strong wimminz' will not step up to the plate and create new or refreshing narratives and creative media because they ha…
/r/MGTOW25/07/16 08:21 PM
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Text a girl "hey beautiful" if you're hot or rich and trust me, you could make her whole day. FTFY
/r/MGTOW25/07/16 02:38 PM
1

I notice that when you ideologically disagree but for whatever reason don't want to debate with people confirming what they say but not giving a judgement either way works best. Just say "Ok" or something like that without (dis)agreeing with them and let them express themselves without you having an opinion about what they are saying. This way you can leave the topic behind when they are done talking about it without inciting conversation or debate about the topic. If they explicitly ask for you…
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 11:44 AM
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Your vision fits into MGTOW; MGTOW isn't confined to women. As the name may suggest it's about what men want to do. If you're a man and you want to live off of 5000 bucks a year then do so, if you want to make a gazillion dollars you can do that too. If you can think of something you can achieve, it's a valid manifestation of how you personally are a MGTOW. You can quote me on this: MGTOW in it's most extreme form translates to absolute freedom for a man.
/r/MGTOW18/07/16 03:23 PM
1

Combination of C and E. Tell them what could happen if they continue. They either listen/wise up and can avoid an uncomfortable situation or they encounter said situation and learn first-hand what you meant. EDIT: I let go wanting to influence people, it takes a lot of effort and you may not even get what you fought for (sound familiar?). Just explain your situation and leave the ball of taking action in their own court.
/r/MGTOW17/07/16 10:43 AM
1

"I am getting in a relationship or married whenthey have determined Pi." They either get it and laugh or try to research and and by the time they do get it you will be far gone.
/r/MGTOW14/07/16 05:30 PM
3

I disagree with him. The ultimate form of strength is relying on yourself. I get that being able to fend for yourself and having others do it for you is comfortable but there's one slight difference between the two situations: When you have others do things for you that you perfectly capable of doing for yourself you chose to take the easy road and have others do it for you. That's all good and well in it's own right, except for one thing: Having the discipline to do everything for yourself not …
/r/MGTOW14/07/16 05:07 PM
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The privilege to provide for a wife that doesn't do shit for herself; take care of your parents when they can't for themselves due to their age and being a productive member of society just for it's own sake of course. Those are the greatest pleasure in life you silly goose: living and working your ass of for others. /s
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 09:36 AM
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It does. It then transforms them into the best version of themselves just by doing one thing: Remove women from their lives.
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 09:30 AM
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women objectively reality Pick two and two only.
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 08:45 PM
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Then you haven't been burned enough by women. Which is a good thing seeing as you now have knowledge about their (perceived) true nature without the pain some people need to go through to be able to understand. Still love women (by which mainly I mean their form and beauty) simply don't give in to those primal desires and get yourself and your wallet raped. It's hard, but once you feel the peace that brings you, you will cling to that peace. Believe me or don't; the evidence is out there.
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 08:37 PM
1

I have an image that may be very relevant: https://i.imgur.com/VWz9pIZ.jpg It's funny how I read it in Turd Flinging Monkey's voice.
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 11:47 AM
3

Boys drool, girls rule! Fixed that for you.
/r/MGTOW05/07/16 10:11 AM
3

I am no avid book reader by any means, but I thoroughly enjoyed* 1984 by George Orwell. It isn't necessarily non-fiction but its a mustread if you are akin to being redpill and having redpill characteristics. If you can comprehend what happens and is 'explained' at the (near end) of the book then you will be a little more mature and be able to conduct yourself more in a MGTOW manner. This one book made me personally both so much more aware and relatively free that it's hard to find another book …
/r/MGTOW04/07/16 01:55 PM
0

Why?
/r/MGTOW25/06/16 04:24 PM
2

No. There's no "shortage" of children. Adoptive children don't exist to satisfy the need of couples wanting a children. Children aren't a product that have a supply and demand. There are less children that need parents than there are sets of parents, which frankly, is a good thing. Is it a bad thing to correct people on stuff like this? I feel like a complaining feminist when I say stuff like this.
/r/MGTOW25/06/16 10:18 AM
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Oh man, I can feel what you mean. If I even as much as consider my existence ending at some point I can feel that 'lizard brain' kicking in. It's like my own brain is trying to delude me into thinking I am going to live forever if I work hard to keep alive.
/r/MGTOW25/06/16 08:29 AM
2

Oh stop it you silly goose. Men can't be raped, it's biologically impossible. /s
/r/MGTOW25/06/16 08:06 AM
6

Disgusting. The entire interview (All three parts) reeks of normie (excuse the 4chan term) to me. As if there's a default way to live your life and that is to make the most out of it: party hardy, have sex, be decadent to the bone and have friends, lots of "fun" time, you know these kinds of people and what they do. The kinds of people that take being popular and being validated for not being an outcast for granted and can't imagine that other people live in a different way than they do. If some…
/r/MGTOW25/06/16 08:02 AM
1

It sounds really cheesy (pun intended) but that question and it's answer is deceptively profound.
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 02:35 PM
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hurr durr, women working in unfavorable conditions makes them die earlier We are so poor! We don't want to die early! Yes you dumbfucks, ofcourse working long and hard hours kills you faster. Only now women are getting the same length of stick as men do by working as long and hard as men did and do they start to whine about how hard they have it. When men were/are dying from all kinds of (literal) shit from combat to literally working themselves to death it's not an issue because the women were …
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 09:34 AM
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It seems you don't understand what a man going "his own" way means. Your way isn't my way and the point of MGTOW is to allow men to do what they themselves want to do in life not be restricted and/or directed by society and other men. By saying: "A man should act like this and that" you are doing exactly that; telling another man how to behave hence you not being MGTOW. You sound like the feminists saying: "everyone is equal, only I am more equal than you.". It also sounds to me like you probabl…
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 09:24 AM
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But I think....the same thing You sound like a really swell guy. MGTOW is supposed to be about freedom and what you are doing is putting a lot of stress on what a man should and shouldn't be (financially independent, not live with parents) doing with his life. I am not going to tell you how to live your life and in the spirit of MGTOW, you can do whatever you want to do. The only thing I ask is, extend that courtesy to others and don't tell them how to live their lives and especially don't proje…
/r/MGTOW21/06/16 06:25 PM
1

The problem is that a lot of these young girls are well intentioned people. They genuinely believe in equality, they think feminism is the answer, and then they get shredded by tens of thousands of internet trolls. Well, intention isn't worth anything. I can be intent on making a good meal but burn the meat, undercook the veggies and so on, but that doesn't mean because I intended for it to be a tasty meal that it actually is. Also, every single person should always research what to do when maki…
/r/MGTOW20/06/16 02:01 PM
4

Some principles I thought up: Learn to have control over the weight. If your goal is hypertrophy (aka bodybuilding aka growing muscle) then you must always have control over the weight. If I ask you to stop the weight anywhere from resting position to full contraction and back you must be able to stop the weight right the moment I say so. If you are swinging weights around, you are doing it wrong. Don't give a fuck about weight of the weights. Your goal (with hypertrophy) is to damage the muscle…
/r/MGTOW13/06/16 12:32 AM
1

The food analogy doesn't work. A rib eye and cheesecake sounds great, but isn't the reality. What happens when you associate with women is that you are eating something in the total dark, you don't know anything about what the main course is, what it will taste like etc. There's a chance you will get the nice ribeye and then the cheesecake afterwards but more often then not the main course turns out to be a live octopus that's wiggling and writhing in your throat itching to be released and you p…
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 11:03 PM
5

This. Just answer any advance any woman makes towards you with a polite but concise: "No, thank you.".
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 11:06 AM
1

Why?
/r/MGTOW31/05/16 03:39 PM
1

I was lazy, I didn't want to type his username. Also, he is anonymous to me. Calling him anon is just as legitimate as calling him by his username.
/r/MGTOW30/05/16 10:21 PM
5

Deaf ears anon, deaf ears. You should write more like this and collect it somewhere. Do it for science and history.
/r/MGTOW29/05/16 06:31 PM
2

I hear these phases mentioned often, what are these phases and where can I learn more about them?
/r/MGTOW26/05/16 08:35 PM
3

mah negro. That elusive throne. I gave up long ago.
/r/MGTOW25/05/16 09:57 PM
1

Can't remember. I will search around for the episode/season and find out. brb. EDIT: I can't find the first episode but the third one is just as good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqfAt7TshLw Turn on the subtitles for english. EDIT 2: the third episode is actually the one I was talking about.
/r/MGTOW25/05/16 12:57 PM
3

You mean this? I have a dedicated "antifeminism" folder for this. http://imgur.com/UOYUy1N Worst thing is, the show is dutch and I watched it. You will not believe how backwards their reasoning is. AWALT.
/r/MGTOW25/05/16 09:53 AM
1

So you compare yourself with others and derive from that whether or not you are a 'rebel'? Seems kind of non-givingafuckaboutotherpeople to me. In fact, the word 'rebel' cannot be applied to one person without context. A rebel needs a society to rebel against. Just like beauty is meaningless when you are the only person on the world. But hey, if that's what floats your boat and is your definition of MGTOW, more power to you. EDIT: nvm, I didn't notice the sarcasm.
/r/MGTOW23/05/16 09:47 AM
2

Let the man go his own way. Who are you to tell him what a rebel is?
/r/MGTOW22/05/16 12:29 PM
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Heh. Or did you actually mean bodyweight?
/r/MGTOW18/05/16 04:33 PM
2

I am confused. Are you praising it or bashing it?
/r/MGTOW14/05/16 04:05 PM
1

Yeah, I realized that once I read the post I linked before.
/r/MGTOW13/05/16 04:52 PM
2

I have been browsing a little and found this, for the interested: http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow-bachelors/mgtow-life-look-1918/
/r/MGTOW13/05/16 04:33 PM
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