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HumourOverarching_Chaos/r/MensRights30/04/19 12:51 AM
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The truth is men's value has gone down since we've built a modern society exactly to bring men down. It's not as insightful as you think it is. If you take someone's tools away, it's no wonder they don't offer much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:31 PM
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Someone would say it's an intentional divide and conquer psy op...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:53 AM
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I don't think game is something you need to learn. It sort of comes automatically when you are confident enough. It has just been commercialised by PUAs and other manosphere gurus for profit. Elevating your sexuality is a good way to gain confidence. If you look in the mirror and like what you see you're going to be far more confident than if you look in the mirror and dislike what you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:04 PM
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Because DT people with a criminal record don't go around advertising it lmao. Women are attracted to their charisma, not the pile of bodies they have in their basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:06 PM
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You are assuming that women know he's a serial killer. Like I said, many dark triad people are charismatic and likeable, you obviously don't know their criminal history, but from how they present themselves they generally win people over.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:31 AM
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There's plenty of scientific evidence that women (especially younger women) find dark triad men attractive. Serial killers and other anti social criminals would obviously display DT traits which means by extension they would be socially charismatic. Also it's funny how it's constantly being argued that young men are under socialized (which generally they are) like it's their fault. Human socialisation has changed radically since 2021.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:18 AM
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I don't think it's even comparable. We simply have allowed two decades of feminism to convince women that their lives in Western/pluralist countries (lmao) are hard. They really aren't. Compared to men, life as a woman today is easy mode. But good luck convincing women otherwise, it's a fool's errand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:53 PM
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It's not even good for the individual long term. It's just short term gratification that it's ultimately hollow and will lead to misery eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:55 AM
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Could it be that more than one thing are contributing to a problem at once? Like both dating standards are inflated due to social media and young men are under socialized in the post COVID era? Crazy right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:19 PM
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I don't think anyone believes men peak in their 70s. My dad is in his early 70s and I have to repeat things several times in order for him to understand sometimes. Similarly my uncle is in his 70s and he shits/pisses himself lol. In your 70s your physical and cognitive abilities start to decline. Your 50s is a different story if you're affluent. Men just tend to make more money in their 50s on average than any other age cohort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:21 AM
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I know but if your standards for being attracted to someone are unrealistic, then you'll never be happy. Feminists make the same point about "unrealistic beauty standards" for women, but somehow think the same thing doesn't apply to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:23 PM
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Yes but could her standards be warped by social media and dating apps? An abundance of options makes selection even more difficult because you become too nit picky about everything and basically eliminate almost every single option that doesn't meet some ludicrous standard, leaving you with only a handful of options. In the case of dating, the men that don't get filtered out by this process, are effectively the top 5% of men who also have an abundance of options so why would they date a 5/10 wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:30 PM
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It's really not. For the vast majority of men, casual sex means you'll hook up with a drunk 4 who's desperate enough that day to sleep with you. Great ego boost lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:05 AM
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Ok but why are we competing even on who comes last as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:01 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:17 PM
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Lol no one is taking away women's voting rights, radfeminism is just the black pill for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:15 PM
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Of course you can use a woman for sex, what do you mean? That's like saying you can't use a man for money, since both men and women enjoy going out on dates and interacting. The problem is some women falsely claim they were used for sex when it was pretty obvious he wasn't into anything serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:12 PM
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Why is the point that women reject men solely based on being treated poorly being regurgitated when there's plenty of evidence that abusive men are romantically successful? Women, like men, have a bunch of arbitrary and superficial standards (physical attractiveness, status, money) that often come before how nicely a man treats her, similarly to how many men simp for terrible women just because they're hot. What you are essentially saying is that women tolerate shitty behaviour from "high social…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:11 PM
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Yeah, femcels and reality are two parallel lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:22 AM
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The return to our roots means strong man clubs fertile woman and takes her to his cave for breeding, are you sure that's what you want? Also there are plenty of examples in nature where females' mating selections lead to poor outcomes (ex. Cricket attraction to vibrant colours which leads to more predation, beetle masculinisation which leads to less fertile female offspring, fisherian runaway female preference for long tails which hinder survival etc). You think modern technology and societal or…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:43 PM
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Since it's 2026 and the internet exists, we all have access to a wealth of information. Studies have consistently showed that dark triad men are more successful with women. If you meet a man who is highly charismatic, popular and charming, there is a good chance he is DT. Once you are aware of this, it's much easier to sport patterns early on, the devil doesn't appear to you in horns and a forked tail, he wears a suit and has a silver tongue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:58 AM
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Yes, but men do have this honesty between us. If I have a friend who has delusional standards, I am going to call him out. Similarly if I have a friend who can't attract women, yet there are very obvious areas of improvement in his appearance/lifestyle (ex. overweight, bad haircut, can't start a conversation), I will also call it out. Politeness isn't necessarily good. Imagine having a 3/10 friend and validating their delusion that they are entitled to an 8/10 partner. That's not helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:50 PM
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I hate to use Boomer quotes (ok maybe I like it a bit because it pisses off feminists) but like Boomers say "you don't ask a fish how to catch fish, you ask a fisherman how to catch fish". Most young women have zero insight on the matter because they never had to work in order to attract men. It just happens because biology. So they assume it works the same for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:43 PM
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Only certain liberal women peak in their early teens. I've seen plenty of liberal chicks be more attractive and modestly dressed when they were 18-19 than post college indoctrination when they gain weight, dye their hair, and dress like hippies. Not to mention the braindead stare after years of smoking weed. The success of feminism, ladies and gentlemen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:23 PM
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societal pressure and religious indoctrination I swear liberals feel so smart when they say these words but they are not smart enough to realise that the average person needs societal pressure and religious indoctrination in order to be a half decent human being. This is something that Nietzsche realised 200 years ago and was losing his shit. Let's look at the facts. What has modern feminism achieved? Degeneracy, unaccountability, unhappiness and the erosion of moral values. Was the traditional …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:19 PM
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Dating apps are businesses, they operate with profit in mind, not equitable dating dynamics. If Tinder makes adequate profit with its current business model, it has no motivation to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:51 PM
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Idk if that's accurate, but if it I would probably interpret it as such: life satisfaction is less abstract so it's more correlated to tangible metrics like career satisfaction, personal life satisfaction etc, whereas "happiness" is far more abstract and thus can prompt negative feelings more easily (stress, mood swings etc) when asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:40 PM
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You have more accurate data?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:26 PM
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Generally speaking, women report greater life satisfaction than men despite also reporting higher daily stress. Just because men pretend to be happier than they actually are doesn't mean they're "chill and happy".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:04 PM
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Reddit is an extremely left leaning platform, hardly a credible source to back left leaning views.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 12:30 PM
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Pretty sure the man Vs bear thing was a reactionary meme, nothing more. Can we stop acting like feminists and finding the most retarded things to victimise ourselves as well lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:48 AM
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So you're saying women now are expected to do what men have always been expected to do, yet somehow we are the privileged ones kekw. Isn't that what feminism is about? The problem is modern women want a red carpet to success laid out in front of them because they've been told by feminism that's how men succeeded which couldn't be further from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:13 PM
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Ok obviously, women carry the fetus, they get the final word, but arguing against abortion isn't inherently misogynistic. Some people believe life starts at conception and abortion is morally wrong. I don't agree but it's not misogyny. That's what I mean when I say the argument isn't poised correctly. If you label everything you disagree with as misogyny, the term gets degraded and people stop taking it that seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:26 AM
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Feminists when men say they shouldn't be forced to pay child support if they have no say on the reproductive process --> too bad loser, you chose to have sex, pay up now 😎🤑 Feminists when someone uses the exact same line of reasoning to argue against abortion --> noo, it's not fair! I shouldn't be forced to have a child just because I had sex 😥😥
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:14 AM
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If my gf/wife gets pregnant it does affect my life through, significantly. The final decision is hers, but I still get to express my opinion. The fact you think men shouldn't even have an opinion brings us to my initial point. Your rhetoric is problematic and that's why many people are turning against abortion. That's not misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:05 AM
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That's because reproductive rights are incorrectly poised by the far left. When you champion abortion as some form of social justice and you shame anyone who is even slightly skeptical of it as some regressive lunatic who's trying to take away your rights, then you end up ridiculing your position. Just bc women aren’t drugged and institutionalised like on the 50s doesn’t mean it’s not a huge issue. See that's what I mean. When you LARP being oppressed as a woman in the West, no one takes you ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:35 AM
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I don't think anyone argues it doesn't exist at all. It's just highly exaggerated and constantly talked about on mainstream media.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:07 AM
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I am confused. Don't women always go on about how they are more mature than men? I don't really expect 20yos to make sound decisions, that's why I think social media have only made them more delusional and entitled. Especially young women. But if you say that publicly, it's considered misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:57 PM
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Women have unrealistic standards about men, women most affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:57 PM
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Because of social media and dating apps? 20 years ago women were limited to dating men within their social circle, now they have access to many more outside their social circle. This inflates their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:16 AM
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Did men understand female nature better in the past when being chronically single was less prevalent? I highly doubt it, the game has simply changed. Men have always pursued more persistently than women, it's just evolutionary biology and hormones. The main issue today is that women simply have an abundance of options and thus the cut off point of being undatable has simply increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 01:54 AM
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Good luck getting an honest answer...They know a man's social value is highly determined by his ability to attract women, therefore it's an effective ad hominem. When was the last time women desired low social value men, regardless of their political inclinations? Yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:17 PM
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Young men have two paths: be a red pill misogynist or be a cuck, no wonder most choose the former... We live in a post nuance world unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:12 AM
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Celebrities aren't a good example, most are attractive by default. If by time and the effort you mean clothes and make up then yes, but go to most gyms and you'll see far more men than women. Also no matter how much time you put into yourself, you can cure neither baldness nor shortness, the former simply not affecting women and the latter not affecting a woman's perceived attractivess. The standards for a man to be considered attractive are simply higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:34 PM
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Obviously the okcupid survey shouldn't be taken as a standard, but generally speaking it's true that women rate men more harshly than men rate women. Men's rating tend to follow a bell curve (rating the majority of women between 4-6, with fewer outliers below 4 and over 7), whereas women's ratings tend to be right skewed (rating the majority of men under 6 and a small minority at 6+).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:20 AM
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I know but that's what I mean when I say average men don't have options. They realistically settle for whatever opportunities arise, if at all. Whether it's preferable to not take most of these opportunities at all is another issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:23 AM
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most guys with options in real life absolutely have standards for women True, but the average man doesn't really have options, he simply takes a shot whenever the opportunity arises. You're referring to above average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:26 PM
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Any number provided out of context is a meaningless number. Statistics are great, except for when people purposelycherry pick them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:41 AM
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Give that 300lbs girl a chance and after she's given a couple of chances she'll think she's a 7/10. Good luck chasing walruses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:45 AM
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Pretty sure they don't want you to marry/reproduce. The world is overpopulated and Western people are not energy efficient. They ARE making it increasingly hard for the average man on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 05:29 PM
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The gender war is far from merely a marketing/media battle, it's a holistic divide and conquer ploy. Instead of asking where the money went after 2008 or why no one went to jail for what happened, we're asking why male peasants are earning 5% more than female peasants or how many genders peasants have or perhaps if the BoD of XYZ Inc. is 45% female instead of 39% female, things will be vastly different for peasants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:54 PM
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Men aren't incentived to be honest, especially if looking for a hookup, because women are attracted to things like status, charisma, wealth etc. They are easily put off by men who play video games, haven't had sex in a long while or have mental health issues (i.e. signs of weakness). Lol no guy is going on a date saying "well the past three days I've been locked up in my goon cave playing video games non stop, occasionally contemplating that I am a total failure. Also I haven't touched a woman i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 12:58 PM
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Being in a relationship where your wife earns more is like a ticking clock until she has the option to find someone who earns more. Gender roles are alive and well, just because we pretend to be modern it doesn't change that when women decide to have children, modernity and feminism leave the chat. The postmodern social model is failing in real time. Men will never be the primary caretakers and women will never be the primary breadwinners. Why? Because we are simply not biologically designed thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 10:45 AM
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It's the same thing really. If women find 10-15% of men attractive, then they are attracted to the same men... The title doesn't make much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:26 AM
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Most of the issues discussed in this sub are more prevalent on social media, it doesn't mean they're not happening to society at large though. Your circle isn't necessarily indicative of the general population. But even if it is and women complaining about age gaps in relationships are a small subset, it's comprised mostly of women aged 30+. The same way many men under 25 might complain about older men "stealing" their women. The matter for fact is that about 30something% of women aged 20-29 are…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:39 PM
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Gen Z women don't complain about age gaps because they benefit from them since they're in their 20s now. It's mostly Millennial women complaining about age gaps because they're past their prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:38 AM
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Crazy how higher education also correlates with better socioeconomic conditions. People who live in survival mode don't have as many kids as people who are chilling in abundance mode. In high competition environments you don't have the luxury to postpone having children. If you can, you will have as many as you can to ensure your line survives through some of them. Rich men usually have children with multiple women because they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:21 AM
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Many younger Millennial and Gen Z women were raised like princesses by Boomer parents. They never heard "no" and were accustomed to having everything served on a silver platter. Then these girls became adults and were never tought the concepts of accountability and "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me thrice shame on me" . Now many of these women have become bitter feminists because they were never taught how to avoid walking red flags while ignoring green ones
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 08:20 AM
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Bisexual women have dated other women. They know the struggles lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:08 PM
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Certain behaviours are deeply rooted in evolutionary biology. Men being the ones approaching and women being more cautious/selective is one of these things. You will not be able to reverse these roles and get women to chase men. If men stop approaching women, we'll just stop reproducing. Basically what is already happening...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:21 AM
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Well it's technically true but it's basically an elaborate version of "men need to get standards and stop chasing women" which kind of goes against biology and evolutionary instincts. The interesting thing is that this is sort of happening in the West and in countries like Japan, but at the same time it only results in greater gender divide because women get superficial attention online and they don't really have to put more effort in dating. What I agree with is that feminism indeed falsely pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:41 AM
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No? But a 3/10 woman wanting to date an above average man is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:36 AM
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neckbeards love talking to minors. Do you have evidence? You can't just accuse everyone who's asocial and into anime (or whatever classifies as "neckbeard" in your head) as being child predators. Your arguments so far are completely baseless and anecdotal. Elliot Rodgers Yeah, I guess a mentally deranged individual is a representative example when talking about the average person. Statistics are your friend. And its very telling youre trying to congratulate neckbeards on being awful human beings…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:34 AM
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The neckbeards were more likely talking to minors. Meanwhile the typical gangbanger, at worse, accidentally kills a couple of people. The worst neckbeards intend to harm ALOT of innocent people. Bruh... You literally validate the point that women make excuses and rationalize the behaviour of attractive criminals lmao. Like the obliviousness and lack of self awareness is phenomenal, Also the fact you completely fail to grasp basic statistical concepts like "on average" and "probabilities"... I re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:55 PM
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So you're claiming that on average a dude with a criminal record has the same probabilities of being dangerous as the harmless nerd who plays video games and watches anime...? This is just a silly rationalization many women make in order to justify their poor decisions. "All men are abusive, I may as well pick the guy who's hot at least". In reality, women just ignore the risk of dating a dangerous man in favour of the thrill he offers. So it seems that "choose better" is a valid claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:08 PM
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Generally speaking women are pickier, this is something that has been supported by evidence from evolutionary biology to social media studies. So yes, while unattractive people don't want to date each other, most unattractive women (sub 5 let's say), still have some options. If you socially condition this pickiness via social media and dating apps, then you end up with a dating market where 70-80% of women only want to date 20-30% of men. That's the real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:54 AM
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I don't think he understands what he's saying either, on one hand he kind of acknowledges that dating standards are warped against men, yet he expects men to simply suck it up and continue supporting a system that actively handicaps them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:51 AM
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Lol it's not just the 3/10 men, it's basically 90% of men who have to date down. Average looking men 4-6/10 have to compete for below average women. And above average men 6-7/10 have to compete for average women, while top 10% of men have all the options. This model isn't working very well, that's why birth rates have plummeted, more men and women start choosing to be single and why men are noping out of the dating scene. It does matter what men's standards are. Most males in developed, and even…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:48 AM
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I would be inclined to believe if I hadn't witnessed many women constantly complaining about their boyfriends then the moment you suggest they breakup, they do a 180. Many women don't want a solution, they just want to vent and be validated. I don't think anyone argues that the creepy loner types can't be abusive or manipulative or that they're fun to date, but between a weeboo with a fedora and a neckbeard and a guy with facial tattoos and a criminal record, who is more dangerous for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:24 PM
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A 3/10 man can't pull anything, porn is just cope. It's women's inflated standards which are the main problem, not men's. Because as a man if you have inflated standards, you simply won't get laid. A woman on the other hand can date up casually and then that becomes her new standard for a relationship, even if the guy she slept with won't date her seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:14 PM
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The thing is undesirable women still want desirable men because hypergamy and social media inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:09 PM
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Thailand is a well known destination for sex tourism of all sorts. The more impoverished and corrupt a country is, the more its women engage in prostitution. We also have a rise of prostitution in the West thanks to OF and similar platforms, so I'd be more concerned with how women even in developed countries resort to modern prostitution in order to make ends meet. Might have to do with growing wealth inequality and dropping PPP but idd...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 04:49 PM
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So let me get this straight according to your line of reasoning. Men in less developed countries mistreat women due to cultural norms of women's position in such cultures, then if these women decide to date men from more developed countries, who treat them better because Western societies are basically feminist, they are still being mistreated. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 03:13 PM
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Oh, I fully understand how annoying it must be to be constantly approached even when you're trying to chill with your friends. I don't necessarily envy you in that regard lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:50 PM
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I am not going to start the "who has it worse" loophole, but men generally don't get nearly as much attention as women. When you've been turned down 15/15 times in your last approaches, you're going to be bitter. And let's not pretend like women aren't bitter when rejected lol. No one likes to be rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:55 PM
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Same shit different day... Men aren't the ones posting articles on mainstream media about "unrealistic beauty standards for women' all the time. It's crazy how Instagram and porn have warped people's perceptions on beauty standards for both men and women, yet many women constantly defend their own warped standards and condemn men's. Like I can follow your own logic and say "you can convince men to date women who don't have the body proportions of Eve from Stellar Blade, but they won't be happy".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:28 PM
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This isn't even a debate, this is science.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:39 PM
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It makes perfect sense, your line of reasoning just doesn't evolve beyond "but it's free market!" because you're using first grade logic. If society doesn't disincentivize immoral behaviours, there will always be people who will take advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:31 PM
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But the "free market" incentivizes cheating with your logic. It's like the prisoner's dilemma, since you don't know if your partner has cheated on you, it's more advantageous in all scenarios to engage in cheating yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:24 PM
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They're hateful and bitter now wdym lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:10 PM
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Ok go approach men and prove me wrong then. Off you go 🤣🤣.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:52 PM
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Slavery was socially accepted as a moral good in the American south. Slavery was never morally good, it was legal. Slavery was always based on the de facto notion that a superior nation/empire/race is entitled to subjugate an inferior one. This was the case since antiquity and has been abolished in most of the world today, it had nothing to do with ethics. What is normally considered good behavior for women results in a loss of personal autonomy and dependency on a male figurehead. Again you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:31 PM
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While post modernists are accepting lmao? They only accept what's different from the norm as a counter-culture, they deeply resent what's normative. People are tribal, whether they are traditionalist or modernist, they have an inherent bias for others who are similar to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:38 PM
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Women aren't exactly risk-takers behaviorally. Cold approaching is risky because it involves a high risk or rejection or even worse humiliation. It has nothing to do with apathy. Also they don't have to because men do it far more frequently, so there's very little incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:35 PM
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Social norms benefit both. When you only uphold social norms for men, then it very obviously benefits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:33 PM
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Societal norms and moral values are what keep a society balanced and functional, promoting good behaviours and keeping bad behaviours in check for both men and women. This post-modern notion that we no longer need societal norms/gender roles is accelerating societal decline by promoting social division between men and women because it's trying to force each gender into roles they don't want just for the sake of some arbitraty notion of "equality". What are the role models for young men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:32 PM
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I never said it's propaganda. I said it appeals to the female fantasy where the normal girl gets her prince. Literally every female romcom/drama has some variation of the same fantasy. The average everyday girl gets with the hot prince/millionaire/vampire. Feminism on the other hand is. Critical thinking is too much for some people, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:02 AM
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Men don't think like women. It's a male fantasy that the ugly guy gets the hot chick indeed, but deep down we are aware that's unrealistic (unless said man is rich).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:58 AM
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Lol indoctrinate women with Disney films from childhood and feminism from adolescence. Introduce social media and dating apps in their late teens and early 20s. Berate and demoralise men while favouring women in education/job market which further disadvantages them due to hypergamy. "The dating market revealed women are more desirable than men". The modern dating market is extremely skewed. Women didn't manipulate the dating market, feminism and misandry have severely handicapped men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:08 PM
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Isn't this exactly the kind of people who I called out in my initial comment..? The only difference is that I didn't reference "morality", but that sex work is a low social value profession. These aren't necessarily the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:51 PM
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If you don't believe that sex work is a respectable line of work you clearly don't belong in this category, so I am not missing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:43 PM
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When the same women scam minors, they argue it's the "parent's responsibility to supervise their children". Feminism assumes zero female accountability, only men can be liable for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:20 PM
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So by extension of what you're saying I can argue that sex workers are taking advantage of lonely men, so how can it be a respectable profession? Because prostitution is a clear exchange. Sex work, which includes Onlyfans, is just selling pics and vids and 100% scamming by hiring someone to respond to DMs/comments, pretending to be you. There is no line of defense. The whole narrative behind how most feminists evaluate anything, is by considering men to always be oppressors and women to always b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:19 PM
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This has nothing to do with agency, no one is arguing over agency. This has to do with whether sex work is a respectable profession. If you don't respect the buyer, you cannot respect the seller. It's like saying buying drugs is bad, but only the people who buy them are the scum, the dealers are empowered. It makes no sense. Also women from third world countries are a different story because they have very limited options. Western women have options, there's no comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:10 PM
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Yeah I thought so, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy/inconsistency of most feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:17 PM
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The point is women are put off by men who buy sex work services, from OnlyFans to escorts because they view these men as less capable/worthy of genuinely attracting women. Which kind of contradicts the narrative that sex work is a respectable line of work. It's cognitive dissonance to support sex work as sexually liberating for women and shun men who buy sex work services, it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 09:11 PM
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Not necessarily because your 30s means more time in the gym which means a more muscular body, if you put in the effort. People just fall for roided influencers who are built at 23, that's not viable without steroids unless you work out consistently from the age 16 which the vast majority of people don't. Also you probably have a better job and better finances, more experience and thus are more confident in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:55 AM
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That's just shaming tactics that women use. The same when an older man dates a younger woman. Somehow women pride in being more mature than men but also constantly complain about being manipulated and "played". The math ain't mathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:19 PM
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A chad isn't a comparable metric. A guy who is tall, fit and has a decent face has a significant advantage no matter what age group we're talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:06 PM
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I am not balding, but it depends on your type of balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:04 PM
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women my age And why should you care? When they were in their 20s they dated older men just fine, now that they don't like competition from younger women they suddenly remembered "it's bait" lmao. Generally speaking, women peak in their 20s, while men after 30, so it makes sense most men want to date 20 yos while most women want to date men aged 30+.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:28 PM
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Being in your 30s means you have access to a greater variety of women in their 20s, 30s, and even 40s. In your 20s you can mostly date women your age or younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:24 PM
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Balding is an issue, beer gut is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:07 PM
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Attracting women in your 30s as a man is generally easier, provided you haven't hit the male wall. It still sucks for cultural reasons in the West because a) women still have inflated standards, b) homeownership and the job market are fucked which disproportionately affects men when it comes to dating and c) people socialize less now so meeting women via friend groups is less viable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:53 PM
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Yes Yes Preferably not but not a dealbreaker. I haven't met a single woman under the age of 70 that goes to church every sunday so idk. My ex was pretty religious though. No, because what are we going to do? Play tetris instead of banging? How would I physically date a woman that lives so far away from me, it's impossble. No, addicts are dangerous. Depends, will she let me shoot some freaky content with her? I have dated a MILF with two kids exactly. As long as she doesn't stab in my sleep, prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:41 PM
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Why do you care so much that "loser men will prefer AI girlfriends/sex robots over real women"...? Aren't these the evil incels who are to blame for the world's problems lol? Isn't it better if they have nothing to do with real women...? The only women to be negatively affected by this would be OF hoes and Insta/Twitch thots who make a living off incels, doesn't seem like that much of a bad thing to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:15 PM
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Most people put their whims and desires over ethics, it's not just women. That's why we live in a society with rules and laws, The problem lies with Western marriage laws which incenticize hypergamy and to divorce for money/assets and get away with it. If marriage law favoured men, they would also probably abuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:48 PM
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No obviously it doesn't, but If you place the same expectations on women like traditionally have been placed on men, then yes, women get disproportionately disadvantaged in their career by having children. But that's just biology, it is what it is. When you try to turn society upside down in order to achieve some magical 50/50 in the workplace, it's not going to work without imposing severe handicaps on men (female only scholarships, hiring quotas, feminising company/work culture etc, having a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:06 PM
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When I say "nope out of society" in generic terms I mean not having relationships, not having kids, not going to university, having no ambition, living in your mom's attic/basement, engaging in hedonistic/deadend activities, working deadend jobs/unemployment etc. If you have a place to stay and parents to support you to a certain degree, it's not like you need a lot of money to survive and idk how it's I the US but in Europe there are unemployment benefits. So working for a couple of years in or…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:42 AM
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Women can love men, it's just that love doesn't last forever and the current marriage dynamics are against men. So once love dissipates, what's stopping a woman from divorce raping you? Only her personal ethics...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:17 AM
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It's not due to lack of shaming, it's a mere cost-benefit analysis. Work/traditional gender roles become increasingly unrewarding or straight out punishing for men which is why they increasingly nope out of society. If a structure is organised to operate to your detriment, no amount of shaming will make you want to keep contributing to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:10 AM
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Try telling a woman about getting a prenup and you'll see how much she'll truly want to marry you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:03 AM
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As far as I am aware, the 90s and 00s are also in the past and back then no one complained about the dating market and women still worked and weren't "forced" to be with a man. Sure it was always more difficult for a man to get women than the other way around. Today's dating world is just fucked and inflated, it has very little to do with evolutionary biology. It's just a younger generation of women who have artificially warped dating standards due to brainrot from social media and feminism. Als…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:06 AM
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Yeah, the problem is the current dating market makes it very hard for a woman to be remotely attracted to an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:53 AM
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There's no such concept as "benevolent sexism", if you're being treated more favorably in any situation compared to another, the word you're looking for is "privilege".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:41 AM
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Lol in other terms we call this Schroedinger's feminism. A woman is simultaneously empowered or oppressed until something happens and she can choose which state benefits her the most. The term "benevolent sexism" is all you need to know about the consistency of feminism and how it can twist words to fit the desired narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:05 AM
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No, the point is social media/dating apps increase the probability of infidelity, we are not discussing ethics here, don't shift the goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:28 PM
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Yes which would take significantly more time and effort than social media/dating apps and thus would discourage many people. There is literally a study which shows that increased success on dating apps, increases the probability of infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:23 PM
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If you nuked dating apps and social media, Chad would have to drag his ass to the local bar and spend 1-2 hours drinking and rizzing women in order to have sex. This takes time and effort, so it's much easier to rub one out and call it a night. Now he can just go on Tinder and find a hookup without leaving his bed and risk being seen. Also when you open up Instagram and you're bombared with photos of half naked girls, the temptation increases. Social media/dating apps also open the avenue of "mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:18 PM
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They do because they are cheap and easy to use. It's the same thing that Instagram does to women for validation. The reason why social media are addictive is because they super low effort and easy to use. If you're a good looking dude why bother going out and courting with a chick when you can just chill on your bed and swipe on Tinder until you hit a match? When apps/social media reward a specific behaviour, that specific behaviour will be repeated, it's positive reinforcement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:25 PM
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So you mean the problem is OnlyFans and dating apps, not "taken guys" per se? Because men will always be hornier than women, that's not going to change. What changes is the level of access they have to single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:19 PM
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It's just an incredibly cucked way of viewing relationships. Yes, most relationships aren't going to be final, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:33 PM
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No, the women who approach tend to be on the lower end of the looks scale in my experience. Attractive women don't have to approach, they get approached all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 10:42 AM
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Not really that the internet "created it", more of a narrative pushed by modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:04 AM
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It's crazy that today a fit dude is looksmatched with overweight women by virtue of his height (which isn't even that short imo). We've lead women to believe today that their beauty standards are "unachievable" when the beauty standards for men are literally impossible without the proper genes + steroids or years in the gym. Be tall, have full hair, have a physique unattainable without steroids... All women have to do is not be fat lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:21 AM
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That's a lame argument. Girls are also on their phones 24/7 from a young age, playing mobile games in their childhood and wasting time on IG and TikTok in their adolescence. So think again, people interact face-to-face less now from a young age due to technology. Also in your early 20s it's normal to be romantically inexperienced, boys have to approach in order to get girls, they don't get approached. It's a trial by error process.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:11 AM
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I don't get why this so hard to fathom for many people in the comments. In many Western European countries cold approaching women is highly shunned unless you're in a club. Now add the fact in your early 20s you dread approaching women anyway due to inexperience + the #metoo witch-hunt and you basically get incelibate Gen Z men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:21 AM
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it's just nonsense to make certain people feel victimised. You know how some people love to play the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 08:17 PM
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Well yeah, looks incorporate a multitude of factors beyond simply face and body type, but generally when people say they like someone's energy, it usually means the person is confident/charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:12 PM
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Well yeah, looks incorporate a multitude of factors beyond simply face and body type, but generally when people say they like someone's energy, it usually means the person is confident/charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:12 PM
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When people say "it's not x, it's the 'energy' I am attracted to", they simply don't understand that said "energy" is simply a mixture of looks and confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:01 AM
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Just because you never hear someone talk about something publicly doesn't mean they don't. Women have a preference for slim, fit V shaped men. It's normal, it's natural. If only we spent less time complaining about things that can reasonably change for the better and spent more time actually changing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:57 AM
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Who in real life and not in circlejerk TRP spaces says women have to be "subservient" and "obedient"...?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 01:12 PM
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"That's just distrusting women" Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:25 AM
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My understanding of bisexuality based on most Bi people I've met is that they have a standard preference 80-90% of the time and occasionally they would swing the other way. At least that that's what I've heard from the few openly bi men I've met, for bi women there's less stigma, but I've heard the same thing pretty much. So if that's true it's not that big dudes just hop on Grindr and fuck the first dude when they're horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:06 PM
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Facts. Bourgeois feminism is a joke and has so far only served in fracturing societal fabric by promoting hyper-individualism (which ironically conflicts with the virtues and morals of the left supposedly). Most people who support it, are genuinely oblivious on how non-egalitarian the policies they support actually are. For instance. they think "oh women should earn the same money as men" which apart from the fact it doesn't take into account the fact men work more hours on average, it also comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:05 PM
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I think what you mean to say is that everything is the fault of the elite, yet feminism is doing an apex fallacy and assumes that 90% of men enjoy the privileges, power and influence that 10% of men do in reality. This is the most clear example of why the world is going to shit today. The elite is dining and wining while modern women are convinced that normie men who are severely depressed and demotivated are to blame for everything. I've seen boys going crazy around me in our early teens at sch…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 07:11 PM
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While there's definitely bias on both sides in favour of their own gender, men are much less biased. Women today act like they can literally do no wrong which has pushed many men to be super defensive of deadbeat dads and assholes. You act like women have no accountability, some dudes are going to do the same. You sow what you reap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 10:54 AM
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It's not that men have to give up on women, they have to stop simping. Simping doesn't only involve paying for Onlyfans, these women are out of your league anyway, they won't affect your dating life. It involves interactions where you gain absolutely nothing. The real damage is when men like/comment/follow every day girls on social media and dating apps. If your everyday girl which is within your league is bombarded with cheap validation, she obviously becomes delulu.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:26 PM
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You do realize you missed the entire point right? I repeat, for most men the fantasy of being wanted and having a woman consentually enjoying having sex with them is a much stronger turn on than CNC or any form of NC.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 11:54 AM
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Because unlike what modern feminism will have you believe we aren't psychopaths lol. Also we prefer to be wanted and loved rather than imagine that we are forcing a woman to have sex with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:50 PM
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if the sex is going to be safe and pleasurable. How exactly would they possibly know that beforehand? Gay men simply have higher libidos than women + male orgasm is far easier so it's no wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:23 AM
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You mean to tell me that men with male libido who like other men with male libido, get laid more? Shocking. I've met dudes who are gay and have been with 50-60 people in their 20s alone who would probably be incels if they were straight cause no woman would ever sleep with them (and not because they're feminine, I am speaking strictly lookswise).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:54 PM
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Well not every woman is a narcissistic sociopath who wants to use men just for resources, for most the casual/low effort validation they receive from men online is sufficient. Or the occasional night out "with the girls" where she dresses provocatively just for the attention. The occasional free drink or ride back home isn't serious resource acquisition lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:40 PM
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Orbiting is mostly about attention and minor benefits, not big favours like free food, free taxi service and 24/7 emotional support. Guy friends and IG followers are generally sufficient to them for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:08 PM
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Feminists when horrible shit happens to women in third world countries: I sleep Feminists when women from third world countries date men from first world countries: real shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:02 PM
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Hypergamy and lookism are exacerbated in internet dating, there is no way to circumvent this. Instagram and Tinder give women a false sense of self worth, reducing men to nothing but another profile in her DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:45 PM
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How about two men engaging in oral/anal sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:27 AM
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They are sexually appalled by both, but especially him being a bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:27 AM
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*Gay sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:58 AM
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I think it has more to do with how sexually revolting you find the concept of your bf getting anally penetrated or anally penetrating another man, than comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:39 AM
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This, many women don't like to admit it, but they are sexually appalled by male homosexuality because it potentially involves the power dynamic of their partner being the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:37 AM
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My gf's gay friend has been with so many dudes who act straight and are in relationships with women yet hookup with men on Grindr... It's crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:34 AM
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You are missing the part where we aren't referring to actual incels, but the manosphere in general. You can't just take the most extreme examples and act like they represent the entire audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:10 AM
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Modern feminism isn't "women being able to choose", it's women being relieved of any form of accountability and putting the blame on men for everything. Women have been able to choose for decades now, pretty sure mid 2010s 4th wave feminism was just kicking a dead horse on most issues that actually mattered. Never have I ever heard a feminist acknowledge the things that women do wrong or actually empower women to have agency and not constantly play the victims. Radical feminist nonsense played a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:44 PM
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Never heard of them, they must be ultra niche like TERFs because I've seen people shit on TERFs online but never have I encountered an actual TERF... Nonetheless, radical feminism is turbo schizo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:42 PM
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Plenty of feminists don’t support sex work Which ones? Because on Reddit and many other platforms, if you dare criticize sex work you are considered "non sex-positive" and "misogynistic".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:37 PM
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Porn was different before softcore pornography became mainstream on Instagram and OF. It used to be a niche lifestyle/industry, now it's marketed as a career aspiration for young women. It has been normalised as a socially acceptable line of work which essentially contributes to the sexualisation of women. It's gotten to the point where 7/10 times you encounter a woman online is in a sexual context... OP clarified when he says "incel" he refers to TRP and the manosphere in general, not involunta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:34 PM
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I didn't say that women are more emotional, I said that women tend to argue more emotionally, that's not the same thing. I'm arguing there are more or less emotionally expressive people in both genders and arguing otherwise is as outdated a Yes, but we are trying to figure which gender tends to be more emotionally expressive and research suggests that women are. That's why the argument "men/women also do x" is pointless when one of the two clearly exhibits said behaviour more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:49 PM
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True, but still women tend to be more emotionally expressive when analyzing a situation, which makes it more likely they will argue from an emotional POV. This strategy is also more effective for women, but doesn't work for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:43 PM
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Because you can't say anything remotely negative about women anymore without prefacing with "men also do this". Sure, but on average women are more emotional arguers than men. We all do it sometimes, but women tend to do it more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:12 PM
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Also people "compromise" because they realise they're over their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:05 PM
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Sexually provocative people are more lusted at, it's just core biology. You can be attractive without being sexually provocative, it says nothing about your attractiveness. While I agree with OP to some degree, and the Madonna/whore complex really was first expressed by Freud IIRC so it's nothing novel, it's essential in a relationship to display a mix of seriousness and sexual adventurousness to maintain the spark. Most problems arise when people become too complacent, gain weight, stop dressin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 12:25 AM
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Where I live it's legal, but what keep things slightly better than the US are the norms/culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:34 AM
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Yes, but this one aspect. The other is that women also find DT men more attractive despite these behaviors. Like the old saying goes, it takes two to tango. If women weren't attracted to DT traits, DT men's efforts wouldn't yield better results.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:27 AM
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I think the study links DT traits to "Social dominance, manipulative mastery, and emotional selfishness", so yes there's definitely the element of manipulation, but also women are attracted to men in top positions of the social hierarchy. Women just want the top guys, whether they are drug lords or sociopathic CEOs, like OP suggests.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:19 AM
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Research shows that Dark Triad men who typically display entitlement, a glib social charm, and impulsivity-are perceived to be more attractive, which results in them having more partners (Carter et al., 2014; Jonason et al., 2015) Doesn't seem to me like all of the attraction is due to deception, you are letting them off the hook too easily. It seems like certain dark traits genuinely attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:39 PM
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Her argument is terrible, but this doesn't mean fetus = human. With this logic you can justify that a woman should be forced to carry her rapist's baby, no exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:35 PM
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You are right about abortion but your argument is reprehensibly wrong. Women get to decide because the fetus grows in their bodies, not because it has zero value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:32 PM
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Yes, but no one can truly break the cycle of abuse except for the victim. You can't force an adult to stay away from another adult, nor supervise them 24/7 as if they were a child. True empowerment is teaching victims of abuse that they can break the cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:13 PM
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Sometimes it's worse. I've heard women defend mothers killing their newborn infants by saying "well perhaps if abortion was legal/free, she wouldn't have needed to do something like this". Even when perpetrators, women are seen as victims which is a holistic failure of modern feminism, if you ask me. Under the assumption that "women are oppressed by the patriarchy" you can basically justify any female behaviour your want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:10 PM
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True, but judging from how many they get, it's safe to assume a good portion of them are like this. There is scientific evidence that Dark Triad men generally attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:48 PM
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I mean the biological purpose of life is to survive and reproduce. Your ability do both highly determines your worth and fulfilment. In modern society you can distract yourself with other pursuits but this is hardwired into your brain, it's not going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:58 PM
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Humans are social animals and like other social animals we wired to form relations and to operate within a team/group, not alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:27 PM
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Dating and social media are the main problem, but the entitlement cultivated by modern feminism is also a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:25 PM
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If by "need" you mean as a biological necessity, then obviously not, however a partner isn't simply a want. I want a Porsche, not a partner, these 2 aren't the same type of "want", the latter is closer to being a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:43 PM
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I love how when women say they don't need no man, we make fun of them for coping. Then we turn around and say the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:33 PM
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It isn't but it starts with women. Women define the dating market, most men simply adapt to it. With people being terminally online (dating apps and Instagram) nowadays, dating preferences are significantly warped. The main problem today is that in the spirit of feminism and female empowerment, men are essentially expected to take the L in many aspects of life just to facilitate women. This isn't going to happen because that's not how society works. You can't just say X group was oppressed, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:00 AM
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woman now know they don’t have to stay in shitty relationships Is that why they constantly complain about their experiences on dating apps? Of course men have this too, but instead of learning to to be better partners, too many just want a woman in their lives to make life easier for him That's rich considering women enter relationships of convenience way more often than men do and generally put less effort into them. Hypergamy is proof of this. The thing is dating doesn't exist solely for the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:48 PM
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If you're lonely, just be gay fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:03 PM
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*A "better" man who will pump and dump her most of the time. Women have a difficult time differentiating between their sexual and their LTR value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:40 PM
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This is an abundance mindset that leads to a totally not lonely life at 30+ with x number of cats, zanax and red wine, wondering where "all the good men went?" most of the time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:37 PM
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were true then someone who steals $20 from your wallet would receive the same punishment as a rapist. I'm sorry but that makes no sense. Consensual sex and non consensual sex two completely different things, the same way spending money willingly is not the same as being robbed. We can't compare consensual acts to non consensual ones. Being sexually disciplined doesn't guarantee nor does it make you entitled to a relationship and some days it's soul-crushing. I know but the point of discipline is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:22 AM
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Dating is game theory basically, you can't just assume the other party is being honest when they have an incentive to be deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:10 AM
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POOF. They're gone Isn't this kind of the point if you're trying to date seriously? To vet the fuckboys? Promiscuity has destroyed dating, relationships, and marriage. Well that's what we've been saying for a while now. This culture of promiscuity only benefits top 10-15% men who can get multiple women due to hypergamy. There is a reason as a society we institutionalised monogamy, because it creates greater equality in the dating market. Well that's the point of discipline, results aren't immedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:08 AM
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It's just Schrödinger's feminist lmao, a woman is both oppressed and empowered until something happens and she can decide which one benefits her the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:00 AM
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The funniest part is that men are far more honest with their intentions even verbally if you ask the right questions, many women just choose to ignore the obvious red flags lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:56 PM
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Still, if you allow yourself to be viewed as a wallet by willingly spending too much money to "impress" the woman on the first dates, you have no one to blame but yourself when a golddigger takes advantage of you. This is the same thing women fail to realise when they allow themselves to be viewed like sex objects. You post thirst trap after thirst trap on social media, you dress like an escort and then you are dumbstruck when you only attract men that want to pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:52 PM
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Which is fair because if you spend $400 on date in exchange for the potentiality to get pussy, you are an idiot. When a woman expects you to spend a significant amount of money on the first date, it's a huge red flag. Similarly, if you give pussy for on the first dates for the potentiality of a relationship, you are an idiot as well, you have no one else to blame but yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:40 PM
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Couldn't agree more. As someone who formerly identified as left-leaning/liberal, most liberal/moderate parties in the EU suck globalist dick and subscribe to a bunch of nutty identity politics and globalist agendas even when they directly go against their own people, while ignoring the real problems. That's how you historically get the far right elected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:22 PM
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I mean, EU leaders have been cucking EU countries with austerity and anti-growth measures since 2010 and now they're panicking when people no longer want to have kids as the dependency ratios are increasing due to old age, stagnant wages, unemployment etc. Now, after years of twiddling their thumbs, they remembered that generational accounting has become unaffordable and the "far-right" is on the rise... What a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:55 PM
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Call me a conspiracy theorist but given overpopulation, I wouldn't be surprised if this is deliberate population control. The whole gender divide being pushed by big corps and governments is either a divide & conquer ploy to distract us from more important matters or a population control scheme. I don't see how else it can make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:20 PM
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TRP pulls a lot of claims out of their asses, but you can't support a claim with the evidence "it was revealed to me in a dream" either. If we're going to seriously discuss who's a more effective leader, we're going to need proper research, not anecdotal claims from either side.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:26 AM
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People should stop making a claim because I have anecdotal evidence 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:51 AM
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The funny thing is you don't realise that resentment towards women predominantly comes from the WAW effect because it goes like this: 1. "Women are wonderful, they can't hurt you" 2. Faces rejection, gaslighting, ignoring etc 3. "Wait, women aren't as wonderful as I was told, they can be assholes just as men can!" 4. Resentment/hatred If you're oversold something, you're going to be resentful towards it when you realise it isn't as ideal as you were told. On the contrary, being aware of ones fla…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:21 AM
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Lesbians are also more likely to fight back because it's considered more of an equal relationship. Men aren't expected to fight back when a woman is aggressive towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:50 AM
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In terms of physical abuse, couples ranked highest to lowest go as follows: Lesbian couples Hetero couples Gay couples To me it seems like men aren't the common denominator when it comes to conflict in relationships, just saying 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:19 PM
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Yes, but it has nothing to do with addiction to sex, if anything we are more addicted to sex than women due to higher libido and less access to it. Women are "addicted" to the attention and validation they receive from men, that's why they spend so much time on social media and dating apps. It isn't about sex, they just use sex as a way to keep men who tick all of the boxes. most women (usually at least several times in their lives, sometimes countless times) demonstrate a physiological/psycholo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:37 PM
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It's subconscious, which again any person with some common sense can realise why the app is a waste of time eventually, but many women can get easy validation from it and many guys think that they're gonna get laid because they also fail to realise how the app works fundamentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:10 PM
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-Experience unprotected sex with only a small risk of pregnancy -Prevent pregnancy soon after unprotected sex -Terminate an early pregnancy This is something that humans, both male and female, have been trying to do since we realised how reproduction works... Imagine having to worry about having children every time you have sex. Sex as a recreational activity rather than reproduction has also been a thing since forever. What reason, if not sex addiction, would cause women to believe, practice, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:55 AM
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I never said that many options = quality options, in fact it's the other way around usually. Tinder gave you scarcity mindset when the abundance mindset phase died down and you realised that the app is trash. It's marketed as a hookup app to men and as a "dating" app to women, this is its marketing strategy. In case you wonder where the abundance was, it was when you chatted with like 10 different men on the app and had like 50+ likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:21 AM
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Last year I took two girls home from the same bar who both had boyfriends and saw one swiping on tinder at the bar and I found the other on hinge after. Their brains are cooked... These women will be complaining "where all the good guys went" at 30+ 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:49 PM
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Tinder brain doesn't magically go away when you're not using the app. Tinder gives women short attention spans and abundance mindset. Subconsciously when they interact with men even outside the app, these two factors still impact their behaviour, albeit slightly less.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:27 PM
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Did you also take a trip to India to "find yourself" and got triggered by my comment or what lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:13 AM
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Guess which types of people usually post it as their Instagram bio. It's the Eat, Pray, Love mind virus, every Millennial woman who watched that movie believed doing yoga and taking a trip to India to "find herself", while doing absolutely zero self-reflection, will somehow fix her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:09 AM
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"Good things come to those who wait" 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:50 AM
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The best part about F&F was when they started beef with Aba & Preach, then Myron challenged Preach to a fight and when he found out that he used to be a bouncer and can probably kick his ass went for Aba instead. Truly an alpha male moment 🤡.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:33 PM
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Can you read..? I never justified hatred towards either men or women, I explained how when one side hates/dislikes the other, then they're going to be less empathetic towards them. Today we have social division between men and women, which is why men are less empathetic towards women and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:12 PM
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This is off topic, I am not explaining if hating is justified, I am talking about how empathy works. But to answer your off topic question, no. Modern women are safer and more respected than any generation of women in the past. It makes zero sense to hate the generations of men who respect your rights the most because like 0.05% are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:14 PM
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There's no point discussing something that will never change. Women and children are biologically more valuable than men and it's why we are deeply hardwired to be more empathetic towards them. We can try to lessen the negative impact of the empathy gap, but expecting it to equalise is not realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:26 AM
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The apex fallacy is the best divide and conquer ploy. Make half the population believe that the other half is enjoying the same benefits as the top 1% and watch them fight amongst themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:16 AM
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Then speak specifically about these instances, not empathy in general... For instance, If you want to say that women receive lesser punishments at court due to empathy then make a specific point. Journalists are notorious for using tragedy to sell and a chained up woman "sells" better than a chained man. Are you going to state anything else except for the obvious? Cause otherwise your post is nothing but victimisation karma farming on something we already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:08 AM
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Empathy is an emotion, as long as it isn't used as the basis for serious decisions then we shouldn't care who gets more "empathy points". Men and women are different isn't this something we supposedly accept on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:01 AM
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Yes, when you live in modern society with modern technology, these dynamics are harder to perceive. Drop most "empowered" feminists in a jungle/deserted island and watch them revert to monke. When I say it's isn't new, I was talking about the mechanism of empathy. If you dislike someone you are far less likely to be empathetic towards them. If you make modern women hate modern men (and vice versa), then no shit they won't be empathetic towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:29 AM
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Yes, but by nature of being physically stronger, men receive less empathy comparatively to women and children. This is how our brains work. If you watch a video between 2 guys fighting, subconsciously you find yourself rooting for the smaller guy or the "underdog", despite not knowing who's in the right. This is a subconscious bias we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:22 AM
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Idk if it's new, people tend to be unaware of their biases. Also kind of hard to get empathy, when feminism constantly vilifies you as an "oppressor" because you have a dick between your legs, regardless of other factors. We're not very empathetic towards people we don't like in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:19 AM
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We have always been more empathetic towards women, children, the old, the feeble (aka the "defenseless") this is nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:06 AM
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Social media like Instagram and Tik Tok literally used the same marketing strategy that bars/clubs have used for ages. They attracted young women on their platform which in turn attracts men. Most men signed up on IG because one of their friends told them "bro there's hot chicks on there...!", not because they wanted to see pics of scenic landscapes, let's be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:54 PM
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I wouldn't be so quick to crack jokes about it, there are people on your side who legit believe that men can get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:47 PM
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It's not a matter of what you or me personally support. It's matter of what society as a whole does and society is more lenient towards women in general, especially when it comes to matters of accountability. There is a reason the women are wonderful effect exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:12 PM
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Abortion isn't protection. Protection is using condoms, contraceptives, IUDs etc, abortion is a last resort to an unwanted pregnancy. If a woman gets pregnant by a man and she doesn't want the baby we're like "Oh poor you, you should totally have the ability to opt out". If a man has a baby with a woman he doesn't to get pregnant he can't opt out of providing child support and we act like "Sucks to be you pal, you should have been more careful". This is a clear example of treating men and women …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:46 PM
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The problem wasn't the sexual revolution. Before that, people were expected to marry at 20 and have 5 kids by 30. This was miserable for both men and women. The real problem is online dating and social media which sold the lie of "live like a celebrity" to the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:20 PM
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This is what's already happening, that's why marriage, divorce and fertility rates are plummeting. The problem is when men nope out, society collapses because society depends on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:15 PM
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In the modern age, no. Women have a much easier time finding partners and divorce can be far more disastrous for men. There are a bunch of social safety nets to protect women from their poor choices (ex. Abortion, alimony) than there are for men. As a man if you fuck up, you are expected to deal with it, no one will coddle you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:06 PM
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True, but it's not going to happen voluntarily. No woman will simply "lower her standards" because that's the right thing to do. Both feminists and Red Pillers use this logic that never happens in the real world. Both of them simply expect the opposite gender to behave more nicely, even when it disadvantages them or when they enable the "unwanted" behaviour themselves... No one truly changes their behaviour unless they expect something in return. Women will not "lower their standards" unless the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:02 PM
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Reaching the top socioeconomic totem polls is actually more feasible for women, because you can always marry up, whereas men marry across and down. Also while climbing the corporate ladder is more challenging for women, nothing prevents them from investing or making passive income. They're just not as interested/incenticised as men to do it. We all just like women more than men tbh. That's also done for male attention, just because women rarely admit it, it doesn't make it untrue. Is there anyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:54 PM
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The internet is ran by big tech basically. In 2005 your biggest trouble was contracting a malware that would force you to format your HDD. Now, you never know who's tracking your personal data and selling it to advertisers, working on an algorithm specifically manufactured to keep you terminally online. We're in borderline future dystopia territory now.. But back to the topic at hand, I don't see how it's going to be regulated. People are addicted to social media and instant dopamine, even if ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:21 PM
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If feminism focused a bit more on what women do wrong instead of acting like everything is men's fault, I'm sure we would have an easier time getting behind it. But OP is right. Feminism stopped being about equality and it's all about power now, so not likely to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 01:48 AM
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The thing is why would men who are successful be misogynistic? Unsuccessful men become resentful from facing constant rejection which turns into misogyny a lot of the time. So the narrative, that men are unsuccessful because they are misogynistic is counterintuitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:16 AM
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Men are more likely to be toxically negative, women are more likely to be toxically positive. Both can be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:52 AM
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Why would they spend more money to send their kids to Europe? This is just stupid. If you think about it, elite men benefit the most from normalising abortion, they're the ones with the most extra-marital affairs and gold diggers trying to get pregnant from them to bag the ludicrous child support. They have every incentive to keep abortion socially acceptable and legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:53 PM
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He's pandering. All politicians are pandering, there is no way to get elected without pandering to a specific demographic/group. I bet the last thing Trump wants is to prohibit abortions, so that all the extra-marital affairs he and his cabinet have are more likely to result in unwanted pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:49 PM
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Lol you have a post history of terrible takes which makes me believe this is a shitpost account 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:11 PM
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That and the "support open borders for anyone or you're literally Hitler". Progressives are a joke at this point with shit like DEI running their agenda that it takes attention away from their good points like climate change and economic inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:17 PM
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It does but Tate is extremely abrasive and obnoxious a lot of the time. The most attractive man in the world wouldn't be "getting away" today with what Tate often says. Height definitely plays a major role, but you can't just disregard his physique and status. He is an ex-kickboxer, millionaire playboy, hardly the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:33 AM
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It's not "just his height". It is a significant factor when you are in the top ~20% in terms of height, but his muscular build and persona definitely play a role too. There's plenty of scientific evidence that women are attracted by Dark Triad men, so traits like overconfidence, manipulation and narcissism do in fact attract a good portion of women, especially younger ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:19 AM
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Have you seen his post-release photos? I am talking specifically about his face, because if you take a mediocre face and put it on a tall, muscular body it's gonna look much better than if you were to put it on a short, out of shape body. Andrew Tate is tall and muscular, so by definition he's more attractive than the majority of men, but his facial structure is pretty eh. Also his fashion, wealth and style play a significant role. He has the rich playboy anti-hero kind of vibe which suits his p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:11 AM
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I mean I wouldn't compare Andrew Tate with Cavil personality wise but yeah Tate is tall, muscular and rich/stylish, all of which contribute to being perceived as attractive. Also he is overconfident and charismatic which again also make a man look more attractive (unless he looks like a hobgoblin).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:57 AM
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Andrew Tate's chin looks like it got jabbed into oblivion and his teeth are crooked. His face is by no means objectively attractive, Henry Cavil's facial structure is near flawless. I think these are objective metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:52 AM
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That's irrelevant. You said that women put out for a coffee and that looks don't matter. This is simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:32 AM
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I don't see how any of the things you said disproves what he said though. While promiscuity is detrimental to both men and women, for women it's far worse due to STDs, unwanted pregnancies and psychological trauma. The matter of fact is that physical and emotional intimacy are far more difficult to obtain as a man. A man who can attract many women possesses certain qualities that a woman doesn't need to in order to do the same. This is objectively true, regardless of yours, mine or anyone else's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:22 AM
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Yes, by shagging hot and/or affluent men. What utility does a woman derive by shagging an unattractive broke guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:11 AM
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<image> Research shows the perception of whether someone’s face is attractive may be shaped by environment rather than genes Ah, yes, look at all the environmental factors which make Henry Cavil look attractive, totally nothing about genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:07 AM
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When I say public discourse I mean mainstream media, social media, movies, video games and basically any other medium which can influence people's opinions. Trump isn't "public discourse", he was voted by people and in fact the establishment is fighting against him tooth and nail. How often do you hear what a terrible human being Trump is on mainstream media? Like 100 times a day? How often do you hear how incompetent Kamala Harris is? Never. You have to understand that when the establishment fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:30 PM
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No its not. You dont have to relate to someone to give them understanding. Really? Do you see many poor people empathising with rich people's problems...? No, why? Because when you perceive someone as more privileged than you, you feel disdain which kind of prevents you from being empathetic. Same thing with men and women, where both think the other is more privileged for different reasons. . These guys would totally let a hot girl treat them however they want so they cant believe that a So you …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:30 PM
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The main issue is that humans have a negativity bias and this is something which has been explained by behavioural psychology/economics. Our losses hurt more than our gains please. Losing $100 hurts more than gaining $100 feels "good". In behavioural econ this effect is called the prospect theory. If you apply this to your everyday life, you will realise that generally you have probably been helped by men way more than you've been harassed, but the negative experiences stand out a lot more than …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:03 PM
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You know, a lot of this lack of empathy comes from both men and women towards each other because they cannot relate to the other gender's issues. When men get very little attention how can they relate to women getting too much unwanted attention? The incident you describe would have also been vastly different if instead of a random hobo, it was a tall, muscular, attractive man who approached you, Yes, most men can relate to the hobo more than they can relate to the Chad approaching you because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:55 AM
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You will never get lonely men (and not only) to express sympathy for women, when the public discourse has become so blatantly anti-male. The public discourse has been predominantly about women's issues for like a decade now. Kind of hard not to alienate men who struggle with socialisation, employment, belonginess etc when they are constantly blamed, while women who are already doing much better on a bunch of metrics are never held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:43 AM
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Modern sociology is problematic in general because it doesn't rely on the scientific method and empirical research, thus it has been used as a discipline which promotes a lot of progressive ideas as if they were universal truths. Conservatism has done the same in the past, especially in the US, where Conservatives attempted to somehow equate the Intelligent Design with the Theory of Evolution and have it tought in schools. The establishment was more conservative in the past, now it's more progre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:48 AM
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That's a whole lot of words just to say that you should basically be allowed to lie 🤣🤡🤣.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:59 PM
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While everyone is more or less immature in their 20s, this idiotic narrative that women are both poor victims and independent/strong depending on the circumstance is completely ridiculous. If you want to be an adult, expect to be treated with an adult's accountability as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:50 PM
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On dating apps you are judged based on a couple of photos compared to hundreds of other dudes, so it's 90% looks. IRL personality can play a role too. Plus the male/female ratio isn't in your favour and the women on there aren't the greatest anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:05 AM
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Lol the 4B movement is unfuckable women pretending like they're voluntarily staying out of the dating scene. Remember when MGTOWs were doing the same thing like 6-7 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:12 PM
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I think we've already established that women's perception of men is highly skewed because it is based on the men who approach them. That's why you hear women complain that men are pushy, manipulative or even abusive, because these behaviours are more prevalent in the small subsegment of men who tend to approach women and who "push boundaries". If women don't want to approach they're going to have to settle with the reality that men who approach tend to exhibit these behaviours more frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:04 PM
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I am joking, most men would turn against immigration too if their women preferred foreign men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:22 PM
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If the only immigrants pouring into Europe and America were latinas and Asian women, white liberal women would very quickly turn against immigration, believe me 🤣.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:10 PM
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"Casual misogyny" is any form of criticism towards women today. Misandry isn't even acknowledged unless it's something ridiculous like "kill all men" or "if it's a boy, abort it" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:15 PM
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There's no need for anti-DEI lol. Let's just go back to how things were before 2015, companies hiring for merit and not identity politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:29 AM
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Well when you live in a society that venerates hookup culture as liberating and empowering, while social media make it extremely easy to fall for it, some young girls will go for it. The point is, women in general have nothing to gain from hookups, that's why they feel empty and used afterwards most of the time. Just because they cope by claiming they had fun, it doesn't change their true emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:42 AM
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But that's my point from the get go, Women aren't generally looking to hookup explicitly, they situationally tend to do so when they are young and under the influence of a lot of alcohol/drugs or during holidays in another country. No woman plans to go to a frat party, then get shitfaced drunk and blow three different guys in the toilets lol. Men explicitly go to frat/college parties with the goal of hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:54 PM
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Good for you but I don't think you represent the majority of people. OP is right in that starting a family can usually be a setback for a woman's career and having a career can be a setback in starting a family. That's how life is, you usually have to make sacrifices and prioritise on what you want the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:38 PM
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Well life isn't that bracket between the ages of 18-22 where you're in college and go to frat/college parties. Obviously, hookups happen more easily when people are piss drunk in a party setting, I am also talking about what happens when you're roughly 24+ when frat parties aren't a thing anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:32 PM
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When I said that men don't enjoy hookups I didn't mean they don't enjoy the physical component of having sex with a woman they find attractive (I should have elaborated on that). What I meant is that the vast majority of men go through a lot of mentally draining effort in order to get laid and what they get in the end is not as satisfactory. On the contrary, top 10% men put very little effort in hooking up, that's why for them it is extremely rewarding. All they have to do is go on Tinder, chat …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:22 PM
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The vast majority of women who engage in hookups have ulterior motives because very few of them have such a high sex drive that they do so just for the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:36 AM
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No, they do so because they believe they can tie one down for an LTR via sex. Then when this obviously doesn't happen they go to r/sex and complain about their hookups don't care about sexually pleasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:54 AM
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The only people who enjoy hookups are the top 10%-15% of men who have to put minimal effort to get laid. Women and like 90% of dudes are not enjoying hookups. Women constantly complain about how their hookups treat them like fucktoys (not shit) and men complain about how they have to tryhard to hookup with a 5/10 girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:03 AM
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It's not a matter of responsibility, it's a matter of what's best for the child. Living in a shitty family environment is often far worse than living in a single parent household...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:24 PM
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What? So if a woman is getting physically abused by a man or a man gets cheated on by his crazy wife, you're supposed to just "make it work"? Have you folks lived in the real world? People change over time and people become more complacent in LTRs. Knowing your partner can find someone else is a very good motivator for not letting yourself go. There are cases where parents divorcing is 100% preferable to staying together even in non abusive relationships. Two people who resent/cannot stand each …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:13 PM
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"Baby momma"... I am sorry but this take is only relevant for certain minorities. there is no large scale societal encouragement of single dads... Alimony/child support have been established for exactly this reason. Society has always placed high expectations on men regarding responsibility and accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:10 PM
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You're right but then again nothing proves that women pursue leadership and high stress positions nearly as much as men do. Also everything you said can be applied to short people, tall people, bold people, hairy people etc etc. I really doubt most men genuinely don't want women in positions of power anymore in the West, no one really cares. If a woman is more capable than a man, then people will likely support her. The point is, enforcing equality with arbitrary quotas rarely has the supposed e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:34 AM
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Women who live in countries where male circumcision is not performed say the exact same thing about uncut penises. What a paradox! It's almost as if it's social conditioning and there's nothing "genuine" about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:33 AM
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Got to love the mental gymnastics and hypocrisy of condemning female circumcision as being a barbaric ritual (which it is), yet male circumcision is ok, despite it being practised for similar reasons and having potential health risks, just because you don't like uncut dick. Peak millennial woman logic indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:28 AM
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No, you just grew up in an environment in which circumcision was seen as socially favourable. I've lived all my life in a country where circumcision is not practised and I've never heard a woman complain about it. It's crazy how women complain about men being conditioned to like X or Y in women, then completely fail to realise that the exact same thing applies to them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:20 AM
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The self-awareness is non-existent 😂😂. "Female circumcision is wrong because it is done to deprive women of sexual pleasure, but I prefer circumcised men, despite male circumcision being performed for pretty much the same reasons and also because I completely fail to realise that the only reason I want a circumcised man is due to growing up in an environment where it was seen as socially desirable".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:13 AM
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If you can somehow gather fellow short people and agree on the need to advocate for their perceived political disadvantages, then we can have that conversation. But I don’t see where the need even exists. Same can be said about women though, I don't see why we need more women in politics (or any other field really). If women aren't getting involved in politics enough, forcing them is wrong and promoting more women with disregard to merit is also wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:08 AM
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You prefer your partner circumcised because you grew up in a social environment where circumcision was seen as the norm. I live in a country where circumcision is extremely rare and no woman cares/expects the man to be circumcised.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:01 AM
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Wow, it's as if the whole narrative of women being oppressed victims in 21st century Western countries is completely fabricated and bogus by cherry picking data... It's almost as if there's an agenda...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:57 AM
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Wait, you don't live your life according to some random woman's arbitrary "icks"? Misogynist...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:37 PM
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Because women control their sexual impulses better lol? They just have readily available options, unlike most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:40 AM
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Yes, we're speaking on average. On average, it's better to date in your early 30s as a man than in your early 20s for a multitude of reasons (physical immaturity, inexperience, lack of grooming etiquette etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:33 AM
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Because most young women are most attracted to men 2-3 years older (not 10). If that were true, 20yo dudes would be sleeping with 18yo women yet this doesn't happen as much. Personally, I've had it much easier dating since I hit 30 and I get a lot of attention from women in their early 20s and this is because men in their 30s are generally more "high value" than men in their 20s. Even appearance wise, men are physically immature at younger ages, whereas they look more masculine in their 30s. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:51 PM
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Paying for sex isn't always done out of desperation. Sometimes you're just horny and there are no readily available options. The difference is, if you're a woman, all you have to do is go on Tinder and find someone within minutes. If you're a dude, you have to court, go on dates, get rejected rinse and repeat, so yeah the quickest way is to hire a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:37 PM
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Social media have completely ruined women and their dating expectations. I've legit watched women go from normal down to earth to vain, narcissistic and shallow due to Instagram and Tinder. Being pursued is fun, pursuing isn't, that's why women love social media and dating apps, while we hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:10 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with men being the primary providers and women being the primary caretakers. Of course, no one says women shouldn't be able to provide as well and men shouldn't be able to caretake, but overall this complete role reversal that is being pushed today is ridiculous. Men and women are built differently and for different tasks, generally, there's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:56 AM
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Gender roles cannot be "purged", As humans we need certain behavioural/social guidelines. The post modernist notion of rejecting gender roles and basically believing that anyone can be anything, has only lead to misery and chaos so far. I agree we shouldn't go back to strict 60s gender roles, but abolishing them altogether isn't beneficial for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 12:19 PM
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Usually the accountability is shifted towards the man: Cheating: Man cheats? asshole. Woman cheats? Well, her man wasn't satisfying/ignoring her. Boundaries: Man sets boundaries in a relationship? Controlling and insecure. Woman sets boundaries? Confident & assertive. Narcissistic/vain behaviour: Man? He's a douche/show off. Woman? She's empowered & confident again, The thing is that while traditional gender roles set different standards for each, at least there was some equity. Today women get …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 12:13 PM
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I think the fact we are unnecessarily open about sex today exacerbates this. Private life is private life, you don't need to post you body all the time, you don't need to openly talk about how many partners youve had and you don't need to expect others to accept your choices. People really put out everything about us publicly and then wonder why they receive so much judgment. Moms weren't necessarily "innocent" back then, but kids in a few years will have moms with IG accounts and pics in linger…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:58 AM
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It's not a matter of worth, it's a matter of preference. High paying jobs are also high stress, men tend to pursue high paying/high stress jobs more than women do on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:52 PM
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Men and women generally prefer different fields. Imposing gender quotas is like admitting that women are incapable of getting the same jobs men do equitably. Besides women don't need to work 80k+ jobs, they can marry up (unlike men) if they want to pursue wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:49 PM
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Yes, men and women are inherently unequal because "equal" means the "same". Not in terms of civil/legal rights of course, but trying to enforce equality of outcome instead of equality of choice, has terrible side effects on our societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:32 PM
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“There is nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequal people.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:58 PM
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"Cocaine is like steroids but for your personality" -Brosciencelife
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:47 AM
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Men overstate their experience, women understate theirs, this is nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:23 PM
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The whole "young women are easier to manipulate" argument is feminist cope. Women just have a hard time dealing with the fact their SMV generally starts to decline after 30. I am 32 and most of the women I used to go to highschool/college with are objectively less attractive than they were in their 20s (even the more attractive ones). If anything, women have the upper hand today. Even women in their 40s have an abundance mindset today. How men still manage to "manipulate" them is beyond comprehe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:19 PM
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I didn't use the word "should", women can and choose to date older men because they are more "established", not only because of what they can provide. Also older men choose to date younger women because they are generally more attractive and have a longer fertility window, so they aren't stressed with settling down and starting a family. There's a difference between using your assets to your advantage and simping, I don't get why so many people conflate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:10 PM
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Because most men in their early 20s generally aren't in their peak physical appearance and/or don't style/groom/dress appropriate to highlight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:57 PM
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"Women mature faster" has to be the funniest cope for why women date older men. The reality is, If you're in your 20s, why would you not date someone in his 30s, who is more established than most men in their 20s...? He has more money, a better car, more life experience etc. Men in their early 20s want to date older women too, they just can't most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:24 AM
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Men tend to see sex transactionally whereas women tend to see stability transactionally. Men don't necessarily love the women they sexually desire, similarly to how women don't necessarily love the men they want to be in a stable relationship with. Of course this varies depending on each person, but generally speaking this is the rule. We live in a day and age where women play by the same rules in society when it comes to work, bills and rent True, but this doesn't change the evolutionary biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:17 AM
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Men generally separate sex and love, while women separate stability and love. Love is an emotional state which has to do with your subconscious, whereas transactional relationships (sex/stability) are formed more consciously. The ultra rich don't process emotions and attachment, the same way average people do. It's part of why they're ultra rich and we're not...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 09:21 AM
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I would argue the rich don't care much about love, they mostly form superficial and transactional relationships that further their goals or fulfill their desires. But this is beyond the scope of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:46 AM
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Same shit, different platform, there are minor differences, the essence is the same. If sexualisation is wrong, then OF and all sex work is wrong, period, no ifs and buts. It's kind of hard to take feminists seriously when they keep yapping about "sexualisation of women" and the "male gaze", then somehow claim OF is "liberating" and "empowering" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:58 PM
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The average woman makes like $100 on OF, but many are guided by partner. You think an 18yo girl just randomly decided to do sexy photoshoots once she turns of age...?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:26 AM
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Who says pornstars can't? No one forces them to be in a gangbang orgy. There are pornstars for instance who only had sex with their partners on camera. Crazy right? No one forced them to do anything. Like I said OF girls have pimps too who help them do their content, so what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:19 AM
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Porn objectifies women but OF doesn't...? There are tons of OF girls who put on degrading/submissive personas, how is that any different? There's definitely objectification and degradation of women in porn but a) no one forces them to do it and b) it's hypocritical to call the exact same thing "empowering" and "liberating" when it happens on a different platform. Many women today are actively contributing to their sexualisation, from Instagram to OF. It's within their power to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:53 PM
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Your capitalist masters wanted it. They're cheaper. I know, I've been saying this for a while now. I just don't believe communism solves the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:57 AM
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This. Modern societal structure resolves around trying to equalise men and women in terms of outcome, not opportunity. Equality of outcome is a dangerous notion that only leads to more misery than it supposedly tries to rectify. Communism tried to do the same and it failed miserably. You cannot force people to do 50/50. "We need to close the wage gap!". Emm says who...? Men tend to choose riskier, high income professions. Women tend to choose safer, lower income professions. Men need money and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 09:07 PM
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The concept of bigotry is very relevant. If it's scientifically proven that a specific group of people is more likely to mug you, let's say, is it bigoted to be more cautious around members of this group? Other than that, humans are naturally more accepting of others from their own community/group, as long as there isn't irrational hatred towards a group, technically it isn't bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:37 PM
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But when women tend to be interested in deconstructing gender roles, if they ever DID meet a cool guy who was amazing at putting their minds at ease, they could consider how them doing that TO a guy and then still dating him would feel. Feminism only cares to "challenge gender roles", only when its' convenient. Women constantly pass on good partners just because they are shy or because they shoot them down too soon when they approach. That's a by-product of having Tinder brain and a low attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:48 PM
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There's truth to it but if the man is high status/high income, I think it doesn't matter to many, if not most, women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:24 AM
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I don't think anyone argues they aren't emotions. The key difference when you're having an emotional reaction is to figure out if it's grounded in reality, if it's proportional etc. No one's adjusting their preferences according to scientific research, that's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:17 AM
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you really expect me to believe that would change y'all's minds about a goddamn thing? Men not wanting women with high n-counts is something rooted in biology. No one read a study or analyzed it logically in their head and concured that they get the ick from a woman who has slept with X men. The same way women have evolutionary behavioural preferences in men (disciplined, athletic, assertive etc), men have in women too. I never understood why women get so upset to hear this, do you think you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:14 PM
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So? We have a buzz word for criticising anything bad about society today ("slut shaming", "fat shaming" etc). We don't need to go back to having kids at 19, there's silver lining between 20 and 40. Nor is age the biggest problem in starting a family, everything else is (dating culture, economy, norms).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:52 PM
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There are definitely the men you describe, but there are also "Peter Pan" women who want to fuck around in their 20s and find an affluent husband when they're done, not putting any effort in the relationship or the house. An it's not like single moms with 3 kids by the time they turn 25 are a good thing for society either. It's much preferable for a woman to have kids at 30+ within a stable relationship than have kids early with 3 different fathers. Life expectancy is increasing, it's normal for…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:37 PM
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Shh, anti-capitalist feminists still think they're fighting the patriarchy and capitalism by being corporate slaves, don't wake them up 🤣🤣.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:30 PM
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The 30s and 1880s maybe, but if you compare today with 20-30 years ago, I think crime is on the rise. Can't recall having stabbings on a weekly basis in Europe at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:46 PM
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I think this is a big issue today. People are willing to stab/shoot you over trivial BS like road rage much more than they did in the past because they have so much pent up anger and frustration, even in countries where gun ownerships isn't so widespread. There was a time where you could get into a bar brawl and it was more likely for people to stop once someone was knocked out or overpowered. Nowadays, folks are power kegs waiting to explode you don't know if how violence can escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:24 PM
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Well obviously, a culture of rampant individualism and people "minding their own business" is a sign of a decaying civilisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:18 PM
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I think what OP is trying to say, albeit a bit autistically, is that many women expect men to be virtuous (not manipulate, not cheat, not be pushy etc), when these behaviours are often rewarded by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:23 AM
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A) Half of everything your husband owns sure is a "drop" in standard of living when you had access to everything your husband owns pre-divorce. B) Men remarry more quickly because they are more "high value" with age, whereas women are less so. A 25yo woman without kids is much more desirable than a 45yo woman with kids. On the other hand, a 45yo man can be more desirable for marriage even if he has kids because his income is much higher than that of a 25yo man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:44 PM
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Ok try winning custody of a child as a man and tell me about it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:08 PM
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I don't think it's a separate topic exactly. Taxation isn't inherently disadvantageous to men because it's income related, not gender related, like you said. Family law is gender related on the other hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:23 PM
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You said men aren't disadvantaged by taxes and I extrapolated that taxation isn't the issue, it's how divorce works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:06 PM
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The problem is neither taxes nor welfare per se. The problem is how family law and divorce works in most developed countries, where women are incentivised to divorce for money. Current family laws reinforce hypergany because the wealthier the husband, the more the wife gets post divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:27 PM
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Flirting as a woman bears little responsibility because you get approached. You can flirt for validation and then if things go sour act like you were just "being polite".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:21 PM
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I completely zoned out what you're trying to say with the last paragraph, but as far as the main point is concerned, no. The pro of being approached in dating is that you have to put zero to little effort and the risk of rejection is basically zero. The con of being approached is that you'll also get approached by people you're not attracted to. All you have to do is say no and wait for the next until someone you like approaches you That's how things work, you can't have everything. Compare that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:16 PM
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Women cannot use raw physical power for coercion due to biology, they use other methods. Doesn't change the fact it's coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:58 AM
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I.e. more power than 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:55 AM
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Pretty sure the "right to vote" was established like 50-60 years ago, give or take, in most developed countries. What are feminists fighting for in the 21st century exactly...?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:52 AM
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So that's why dating is more competitive for us, I think. Ya just gotta deal with it The way we are currently "dealing with it" is depression, social isolation, hookup culture, a growing gender divide/war and plummeting birth rates. We're dealing with it pretty badly if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:48 AM
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That's not even a debate, that's common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:43 AM
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Yes, obviously and the person getting coerced shouldn't have to bear the responsibility of raising/providing for a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:35 AM
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Eh no. Again, men providing child support is a social construct, not a biological one. Men have zero responsibility to provide for children they were coerced to make. Your take is similar to saying that women should birth their rapist's children. But of course your brain employs mental gymnastics and double standards to justify it. Men can't be baby trapped unless they want to be. whenever it suits you. "Women cannot be raped unless they are asking for it". Does this argument sound familiar? Yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:31 AM
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yes thats the least he can do How about no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:49 AM
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Yes and they should be liable of child support in this case. Your point exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:41 AM
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Last time I checked family law isn't biology. Paying child support isn't something that biologically happens. Society cucks men by forcing them to pay child support even when they shouldn't because we hold men accountable for women's faults in many cases, not biology... Unless you were born yesterday you should know that women baby trapping affluent/high value men is a tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:40 AM
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Women have personal agency too. Women can lie about being on birth control or baby trap a man but you didn't think about that did you...?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:35 AM
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So you are employing double standards. Women get to choose but men should be forced to suffer womens' choices according to your line of reasoning. Either no one gets to choose or both do, there's no in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:49 PM
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Yes, because it is a thing which happens. Condoms you bring aren't immune to holes you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:37 PM
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I am getting a thousand replies about how a man should always provide child support regardless if he doesn't want the baby. So if you are willing admit baby trapping is a thing and men should always provide child support, this means men should provide child support even when baby trapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:18 PM
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Let's go again for the 1000000th time... Your body, your choice. My wallet, my choice. Unless, we mutually agree otherwise, that's the status quo. Welcome to my Ted Talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:15 PM
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Judging from the majority or replies I am getting from triggered women and blue pill cucks, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:58 PM
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I personally prefer to deposit sperm facially or anally so I am good but thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:56 PM
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My wife didn't know she was pregnant with our first until 24 weeks. She didn't notice the belly swelling, the cramps, the kicks, the nausea or mood swings for 6 months...? Press X to doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:23 PM
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Yeah obviously, we're discussing what happens when a woman decides to birth a child a man explicitly doesn't want though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:22 PM
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How is it a man's fault a woman didn't realize until too late she's pregnant...? How are you going to prove they didn't know they were pregnant exactly? There are plenty of instances where women consciously conceal their pregnancy from their partner and when it's too late for an abortion claim ignorance. What happens then? Or are you gonna tell me this never happens because all women are saints? Guilt-tripping/forcing a man to have a child is immoral. The problem is your brain is completely inca…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:14 PM
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First of all, there are instances where the man doesn't choose to deposit their sperm, so you are partially invalid. Accidents happen and also women can poke holes in condoms. Hardly a choice. In every other case yes, it does end, but they also get to decide where to deposit their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:59 PM
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Each of you are responsible for your own bodies. Yes. Each of you are responsible for your own finances. No, the man isn't. That's where the unfairness is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:52 PM
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What are you talking about? Abortion can occur even 6 months into pregnancy in most cases. How is it possible for a woman to not have realised she's pregnant for half a year...? The only explanation is she willingly conceals her pregnancy from her partner until it is too late. If the men or women don't have to pay for their own babies then you get to pay for their babies, you get that right? That's an entirely different topic. Just because single mothers are entitled to benefits, it doesn't chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:51 PM
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Which is exactly why planned parenthood, involving both the woman and the man as decision makers in starting a family, is the best way, but that's an entirely different conversation. I never argued against abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:40 PM
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That's not the point of the discussion though. We are discussing what happens AFTER an unwanted pregnancy has occurred, not what the best ways of contraception are. This is completely different conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:37 PM
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But I never argued against abortion or against the woman's right to choose what happens with the child, so I don't get why you are shifting the goal post. I am arguing in favour of a man's right to IN ADVANCE state he doesn't want a child and not being liable to provide child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:34 PM
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I never argued against abortion, I argue against men being forced to pay child support when they have been tricked or when they have clarified they don't want a child from the get-go. Women have 75% of the power in situation because they have almost absolute control over having the child or not, whereas men have 25% because the only bargaining power they have is not paying child support which might impact the woman's decision. Either way planned parenthood is the best way to start a family, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:30 PM
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Since women are the only ones who get pregnant they get a little more power here by default of nature. I agree, which is why I am saying women get the final decision on whether to keep the child or not. You cannot force a woman to keep/abort a child and similarly you cannot force a man to pay. If women get to choose, so should men. If I don't want a child you cannot force me to pay for it, if I have clarified my stance from the beginning. This only takes away all responsibility from the woman an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:25 PM
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Ok so women who don't want to be moms should also get their own "birth control" right? No, abortion isn't birth control. See how what you say makes no sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:18 PM
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Ok that's where we fundamentally disagree then and I am going to call you a hypocrite, glad we got somewhere at least. You want women to have the right to do what they want with their body (which is fair and I also agree), but for some reason you think men shouldn't have the right to do what they want with their wallet (which isn't fair and I disagree). All this achieves is give women full control over reproduction and completely strip men of the little power they have in the modern world which …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:15 PM
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Condoms break, women can lie about birth control, contraceptive pills aren't 100% successful either (nor are vasectomies either). There is no 100% safe method to avoid an unwanted pregnancy, please stop trying to engage in mental gymnastics. We are discussing what happens or should happen AFTER an unwanted pregnancy has occurred. To say "Oh you you should have clipped your own balls", isn't really an argument, it simply derails the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:10 PM
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No procedure is 100% safe and suggesting a 20yo man who doesn't to father children atm should have one just to avoid getting women pregnant, is completely moronic. Your train of thought is that men should play 5D chess and clip their own balls off in order to avoid being tricked by women or to simply avoid bad luck. But if a woman tricks a man into getting her pregnant, she has 100% the right to ask for child support from said man? Just clearly say "we don't care about men's or children's rights…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:06 PM
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Because they might not CURRENTLY want a child, it doesn't mean they never want to have one. Has that occurred to you? Same thing applies for women, just because she wants an abortion now, it doesn't mean she NEVER wishes to become a mom. Is that hard to understand? You never answered though, should a man be forced to pay if a woman tricked him by not being on birth control? Or simply if the condom breaks? You can't on one hand say, "women have the right to choose", but when there's coercion or b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:57 PM
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She has to pay financially, because she chose to birth the child in the first place. You cannot decide you don't want a child AFTER you've had it, how are you even comparing the two? This is not the same with a man stating ex priori he doesn't want a child. Similarly, he cannot change his mind after the child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:51 PM
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You're the ridiculous one for even suggesting that men should have vasectomies to avoid unwanted pregnancies, instead of admitting that women cannot force a man to pay for a child he doesn't want. Your train of thought is completely ridiculous from the get-go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:43 PM
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"There is never a child that would have been, therefore you took away a child's right to live", this is the same logic. I am not anti-abortion, but modern women want the best of both worlds and it doesn't work this way. They want 100% freedom of choice on whether to bring a child, but 0% of the responsibility that comes with said child. Your logic is as follows: If the woman doesn't want to become a mom --> "Poor you, you should have the right to choose!" If the man doesn't want to become a dad …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:39 PM
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"And if you're a woman and don't want to be a mom, make sure you aren't. And if you do, make sure you support your own child". See how this stupid argument works both ways...? Vasectomies exist too. As does abstinence. Yeah have a surgical operation to become temporarily (but potentially permanently) infertile which also has a bunch of side effects or never have sex again, makes sense. You went turbo mode, congrats. Next you'll be telling me that women who don't want to have children, should rem…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:32 PM
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The problem is people pretend only the former category exists, somehow it completely eludes them that wildly irresponsible women exist who will have sex with the worst dudes or will simply lie about being on birth control. Tricking a man you want to tie down with an "unexpected" pregnancy is the oldest trick in the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:17 PM
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Yes, because condoms never break, nor do women ever fuck up their birth control pills... Do folks who say this even live in the real world? You just have this cucked mentality where the man is always the perpetrator and the woman is always the poor victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:11 PM
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If child support is the right of the child, then abortion is also wrong because life is the right of the child too. You can't want your cake and eat it too, if you want to have 100% control over childbirth then you should also have 100% financial responsibility if the father doesn't want the child ex priori. Equal rights, equal responsibilities, anything else is BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:56 AM
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Include the rest of my comment in your quotation and you should be able to understand. People who aren't willing to put any effort in a relationship, really provide nothing else than sex and therefore will attract people seeking to exploit that. A person who gets used/cheated once is unfortunate. A person who gets used/cheated on 100 times should look inwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:29 AM
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These women are flabbergasted when they get cheated on or they are used for sex. This "prize" mentality only attracts men who don't plan to be faithful because in their head they're going to think "Oh you want to be a pillow princess and be provided for while you offer nothing in return? Don't mind if I get some side pussy then..".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:25 PM
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You're not familiar with the concept of making a claim and then people using arguments to support/debunk it? Insinuating that all divorce happens due to men being abusive and/or lazy is a false misandrist narrative. Divorce can also be initiated because a woman grew bored of her husband, found someone better or she wants to take half of her husband's earnings/property + alimony. It's not like women don't do these things...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:12 AM
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And many women cheat because they are bored or because they need novelty and act like it's the man's fault somehow, pretending he was abusive/distant and that's why they left him. The fat husband in a greasy tank top is a caricature, I don't think most men can afford to become this complacent in a relationship in the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:40 AM
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True, but women in relationships where they are the breadwinners over time express contempt and become unhappy with their partners. For the few couples where this dynamic seems to work, good for them, but overall once things get serious in a relationship and people consider marriage/kids, they revert to traditional roles because they are more functional. More a collective view point on relationships, chores, work and money that hasn’t caught up to where we are in the world with more women then e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:46 PM
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It hasn't. Women initiate divorce more simply because they can find another partner much more easily than men can, as simple as that. The claims about women initiating divorce over infidelity or abuse are simply bogus, since many women have demonstrated they tolerate both if they are sufficiently attracted to a man. Women divorcing over domestic abuse are a minority and only do so after tolerating abusive behaviour for years and their family/close friends pressure them to file. Again, the majori…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:36 PM
2

And they work more on average so you don't have to. I don't see why it's unfair for women to do more housework? Women today want to both work less AND do less housework. And feminists claim modern men are entitled somehow lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:26 PM
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Women typically work fewer hours and do more housework, whereas men typically work more hours and do less housework. Division of labour cannot be 50/50 in everything, we are not robots. Given that women tend to marry across or up socioeconomically, how can you expect your husband to simply work less when he brings like 70% of the income in order to do more housework...? It's ludicrous. To me it just sounds like women saying this both want to work less and do less housework. I don't see how this …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:16 PM
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Nah bro, women are saints, this never happens. Your wife only divorces you because you beat her while doing nothing all day except watch TV in a greasy tank top and ripped boxers... Women can never be at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:11 PM
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The current narrative is that men do less housework and are lazy in marriages/relationships where the couple stays together, which is why women initiate divorce at such a high rate. While it's true that men do less housework on average, what people who make this claim casually omit is that men also work more hours in their jobs. This has been discussed multiple times on this sub. Some certainly are, but there are others caused by infidelity, violence and abuse, fiscal irresponsibility, addiction…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:08 PM
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Reddit is woke. Interestingly, r/AITAH has become more objective with women lately. I've seen more comments (at least on posts which appear on my feed) calling them out on shitty behaviour, but generally speaking the sub is lame because it's mostly people karma farming with fake stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:23 PM
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No, it's just that I've noticed it happen. People tend to be "harsher" with men when posting their problems, regardless if they are simply venting or actually looking for advice. But yeah, I agree that many people offer advice when OP is simply trying to vent or sending "thoughts and prayers" when OP is actually looking for advice and there exists advice to be offered. As far as the reponses you get, yeah if you share a personal story, you open yourself to criticism. As long as the replies aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:37 PM
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Go to any sub of people posting about their problems and you will quickly see that men and women are treated differently. People tend to be more supportive with women and that's not even good for women a lot of the time because most of it is BS support... Imagine having a problem and instead of receiving actionable advice, people are telling you "Oh poor you, beautiful things come to people who wait", "you ex just didn't see your worth, it's his loss". That's just BS that sounds nice, but in ess…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:15 PM
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All the more reason to limit social media exposure then. Honestly, as a man social media are a waste of time. It's a bunch of girls showing off, people flexing holidays, memes and irrelevant ads trying to take your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:37 PM
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I think the more valid question is how are our societies even going to look 20 years into the future given how rapidly they are declining now and how low fertility rates are...? The issue isn't sexual liberation. Sexual liberation happened in the 80s where people started rebelling against the oppressive social norms which existed back then. What's happening today isn't sexual liberation, it's social degeneracy, moral decay and political/economic destabilisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:36 PM
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Shorts are generally junk food content by default. A 10 minute video can provide more educational/helpful content than a 15" clip with AI pics and epileptic music playing in the background.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:44 PM
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Women are generally appalled by explicit/harsh rhetoric. Red pill rhetoric ranges from mildly caustic to extremely berating which is not typically the type of language women will listen to. Also TRP criticises women a lot (both accurately and inaccurately, that's a different issue), which they absolutely hate, so no wonder they are against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:49 PM
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Obviously but does feminism promote self improvement, for instance? Cause all it supports is fat acceptance, casual sex and victim mentality which are the polar opposites of self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:45 PM
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Most people, both men and women, form the majority of their opinions and worldviews based on what the media tell them, they have little to no critical thinking. All it takes for them to form an opinion is to hear it being voiced enough times on TV or social media and sooner or later they will adopt it, it's literally how propaganda works. Women are no different, is this surprising to you? Bro your words were “ I don’t think women enjoy casual sex, I think they have been pay op-ed to pretend like…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:38 AM
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I didn't say she will have trouble settling down, I said her hoe phase will haunt her psychologically. No decent man would ever settle with a woman like Riley Reid or a groupie, they will most likely have to settle with someone "below" their standards. Exceptions might apply to very attractive women, but this doesn't change how depressed and BDP they're going to be. The same way a man feels like trash when he's lazy and unproductive, a woman will feel the same when she's been used by multiple me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 11:13 AM
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I love how you cite anecdotal evidence to counter the biological facts that I mentioned in my previous comment and then you say "lul touch grass bro", truly a peak Redditor moment. Yes, many women throw themselves at top 10%'ers in the hopes they might bag one in the long term, have you ever considered that? There is what we call the behaviour-intention gap, many women will fuck a 10%er in the hopes he will actually be in an LTR with them, despite this being a terrible strategy. You are clearly …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:49 AM
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Going to a metal concert to find an attractive woman is like going to Mc Donald's to find healthy food lol. And this comes from an ex-metalhead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:47 AM
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Pretty sure most social media algorithms (Youtube, Facebook, Instagram etc) will spam you with softcore/covert OF content the moment they notice you are a guy because you looked at a hot chick on your feed for more than 3 nanoseconds. Today, you have to make a conscious effort to avoid this shit. Freaking Facebook feed is full of softcore AI porn at this point...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:43 AM
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I don't think women truly enjoy casual sex, they have just been psy oped to pretend like they do, they are more miserable than ever if you ask me. Women are wired differently than we are, they don't just seek sexual gratification upon the first suitor who meets certain criteria. Biologically, women face more consequences from sex than man do (unwanted pregnancies, more easily get STIs, physical/psychological damage etc), just because modern technology has reduced the probability of these happeni…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:33 AM
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Male homosexuality "devalues" a man's masculinity in the eyes of other straight men and women. Female homosexuality doesn't "devalue" their femininity in the eyes of other women and it in fact enhances it in the eyes of many men because they perceive two women having sex as attractive. It's one of the many double standards our society has, it's nothing new. Before anyone starts crying about homophobia and shit, most women have a gag reaction if a man tells them they have "experimented" with anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:46 PM
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Better or worse is relative. Today dating standards are highly skewed by social media. Interesting how women can identify this issue for female beauty standards which directly affect them, but completely fail to do the same for male beauty standards..... 🤔🤔🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:51 PM
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Pretty sure the singles gap is widening especially for younger cohorts and the number of men who have never experienced intimacy also increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:19 PM
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The core problem is how as a society we vehemently deny the reality that women are attracted to shitty (dark triad) men. There are studies suggesting this and it's also th reason why the most socio man you know irl has probably slept with 50+ women. Men are literally rewarded by women for shitty behaviours, what incentive is there for them to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:03 PM
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It's truly autistic when people casually forget that between the middle ages and the 2020s, there was a period (1980s-2010s) where women had rights AND social media/dating apps didn't exist, where we can observe human mating behaviour. Men weren't as entitled. Women weren't as entitled. The internet didn't skew dating options and partner expectations and everyone was simply happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:38 PM
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This is defeatist mindset, similar to "there's no point approaching a woman, she has better options". Apply this to the job market "there's no point applying, someone better will probably get the job" and basically you achieve nothing in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:39 AM
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I assume you can read. Reread my last comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:14 PM
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Provide, protect, approach women, military service/draft, problem solving, crisis management etc are all traditionally masculine responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:00 PM
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It started out because feminists wanted the same rights as men but without the same responsibilities, i.e. a very sneaky way to gain power. We got what? Failing societies? This affects women just as it affects men. Western societies are degrading due to decaying values and morals, corruption and a widening wealth gap. And it's not like women are having too much fun either, you guys keep complaining about how men don't commit, ghost and don't care about satisfying you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:21 PM
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Rights without responsibilities are power. Feminism was never about responsibility and holding women accountable, just yapping about the patriarchy and oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:06 PM
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Feminism was about power, not equality from the getgo. now that we've opened Pandora's box with feminism, social media and dating apps, I don't see a way to rectify this without some major event (ex. revolt, war) happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:12 PM
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It's always been like this. As a man you either "get" the unwritten dating etiquette or you fail. The reason it has become even worse today is due to how much emphasis is placed on not making women uncomfortable. It's practically impossible to flirt without risking making women uncomfortable because you can't read her mind and how well your approach is received, highly depends on your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:16 PM
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Women aren't attracted to greed and criminals per se. They are attracted to the personality traits and commodities, greedy and delinquent men can provide. The problem is the way the world works it highly rewards greedy and delinquent behaviour in general, not just by women. Greedy and delinquent men make more money and hold higher positions of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:34 AM
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While I think OP oversimplifies how attraction works, we can't just moralise and virtue signal and expect anything to change. This has been proven to be ineffective. Men's strategy to attracting women is mostly reactive. That's just how things work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:30 AM
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Not speaking specifically about you, but women's clothing is definitely more revealing than practicality requires. If a hairy man with thicker skin can survive summer in regular shorts, I am not convinced that super tight short shorts are "more convenient", especially when they're so tight they restrict movement... If women could just acknowledge they do things for attention, like everyone more or no less does, the world would be a more honest place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:59 AM
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That's true, "pretty privilege" is the only real privilege. Also when you build confidence you "automatically " learn how to talk with women. It's not some PUA book you need to read in order to decipher how to communicate with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:51 AM
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I am speaking strictly in terms of looks, i used "inferior" for lack of a better word.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:43 AM
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Men's options are significantly "inferior". A 6/10 man has access to 3-4/10 women. An average man (say 5) struggles to even date below average women, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:25 AM
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Yes, there are. There's a reason many women are attracted to married/taken men. Because said man is perceived as more attractive if other women are after him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:16 PM
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True, but how is that related to what I am saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:47 PM
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Men have always idolised certain concepts, including women, this is the male condition. Without ideals and values, men would never go to war and die to protect them. Ask any modern man you know, in private, if they'd fight to protect their country/home/woman. He'll likely tell you "hell no". Many men wouldn't even defend their GF on the street, should the need arise. So yes, the "indifference" you describe is just modern women being spoiled and taking men's provision for granted. Men are simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:57 PM
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"Tax the rich" is populism. The ultra rich are untaxable, they have so many ways to legally avoid taxes that you're never going to get their money via taxation. Politicians know this full well, there's a reason no politician advocates for actually effective ways to redistribute wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:34 PM
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Obviously, because people are not money and you cannot simply redistribute them, we have discovered something which achieves the same result, called marriage. The whole point of marriage and monogamy, despite human nature being polygamous, is that you only get one partner which allows greater "partner equality". On the other hand polygamy reduces partner equality because it allows the accumulation of the majorty of partners to a few individuals. Now there's always the issue that many women would…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:30 PM
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Feminist "leaders" or at least the leading think tanks behind feminism, were never about equality, it was about power, as is every political ideology in the history of ever. Honestly, who genuinely expects a movement to "tone down" their rhetoric when they're in power? This almost never happens. Once someone gains power they do everything in their ability to maintain and further it. The whole reason why "real communism" was never tried, is because according to Marx, when the transition from soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:06 PM
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Women have a harder time reaching orgasm because they require physical and emotional intimacy. Modern women engage in hook up culture then the complain about not being sexually satisfied. Also, even women in relationships very often don't speak up or express their desires/preferences and expect their partner to play the guessing game. So overall engaging in casual sex and not explicitly expressing what you want, is a very unlikely way to close the "orgasm gap".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:41 AM
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? I mean, women have died from childbirth before Abortions aren't 100% safe either, there's a 2% chance of complication. Death from childbirth in the developed world occurs in 0.0003% of pregnancies, it's is extremely rare. The fact you rushed to bring it up as as an argument is mind boggling. It's easy to give yourself the choice of whether you get to keep a child or not and expect someone else to financially support your decision. Otherwise, I can also use the argument that it's your responsib…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:19 PM
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From what I understand, OP isn't opposing abortion. He's asking how can women expect sympathy from men on abortion rights, when men do not get a choice when it comes to child support. In other words, how can you expect someone to support your plight when you don't support theirs in the same matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:32 PM
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Society is so fixated on blaming men for everything, most people fail to understand that when it comes to mating, men are reactive. Women are the "trend-setters" and men adapt their dating strategy accordingly, in order to succeed/survive in dating. When there is a rising trend among young women creating vanity, unaccountability, narcissism, and materialism, many men adapt by becoming "red-pillers". Feminists, blue-pillers and everyone complaining about TRP basically, simply expects men to "suck…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:56 PM
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Men are more likely to be perceived as a threat in comparison to women, whereas women are more likely to be perceived as a victim. This leads to women receiving less criticism for certain behaviours that men do. The problem is today this has gone WAY too far, to the point we act like anything said by a woman automatically has any value attached to it, even if it's a complete garbage take, whereas mocking a man for saying self evident things is far more acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:13 PM
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Ah yes, because saying that immigrants from islamic third world countries commit more crimes than locals is racist, despite it being statistically accurate... Reality is racist I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:07 PM
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No so fun fact: Most non western-non white cultures are far more misogynistic. There has literally never been a more tolerant and safe place to live as a woman/minority than modern western societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:14 PM
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Dislikeable is a light word, it's ok to say that some women are absolutely heinous. Some others are delightful. The problem is social media keep highlighting the worst types of men and women imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:36 PM
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Bottom G
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:34 PM
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Saying what, that some men pay because they believe it will get them laid while some women let it happen because they want free food/drinks? Huge revelation, you heard it here first, folks!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:59 AM
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It's how the world works and some women will totally use a man's expectation of sex for a free drink/food. Can't say I feel particularly bad they attract men who just want to shag them, you sow what you reap. It's usually easy to tell who pays out of politeness/genuine interest and who's just looking for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:58 AM
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The women who predominantly compain about this are women who go on dates with men, have them pay for dinner/drinks and drive them around, and then act like the guy trying to sleep with them is somehow crossing a boundary... Well, when someone does you a favour, they usually expect something in return. If you don't want to run across men like this, a good way to avoid it is to pay for your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:16 AM
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Yes, they are. Everyone is delusional when it come to standards today, but especially young women. Social media and internet culture have inflated their egos because they have a bunch of low value choices that they already had in reality, but without real access to before social media. Obviously passport bros get picked by women in poorer countries for the socioeconomic mobility, I don't think anyone is arguing that, that's a completely different issue. The problem today is that many women are c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:05 AM
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I don't mean specifically for you, I mean women in general. Are women not affected by the beauty standards set by social media for men? Women would rather be single than in an unfulfilling, boring, or toxic relationship. I agree with unfulfilling and boring, but women go after toxic men a lot of the time so...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:26 PM
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So you don't think your perception of beauty is warped by social media? It's only men's perception that is? Because I see many women argue on this sub that they'd rather be single than with an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:18 PM
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It works both ways as it not being a gender specific issue. Social media constantly warp our perception of what is average but I don't see women on this sub acknowledge this for men. They will often say "most men are unattractive" without realising their perception of male beauty is highly skewed by social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:05 PM
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Feminists: omg female beauty standards are so unrealistic! Also feminists: some men are just unattractive so what? It's crazy how feminists are quick to condemn any portrayals of slim women in online media as "unrealistic", but they fail to realise this works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 05:11 PM
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Marrying her off to a foreign noble family to strengthen diplomatic ties.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:08 PM
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Then your post title and content is inaccurate cause it seems you're speaking about some study regarding feminists' perception of men which has nothing to do with TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:45 PM
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We're not speaking about the red pill here though, are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:11 PM
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Bruh doesn't even understand that a single study doesn't "prove" or "disprove" anything, it merely serves as an indication at best. You would have to perform multiple studies with replicable results in order to even begin talking about "proof".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:30 PM
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In my country we have a saying "it's better to be first in the village, than second in the city". The more options you have, it only creates noise. From a psychological POV, when we have too many choices it really confuses you because it takes too much time and effort to evaluate them. Same thing happens with dating. Sure, you have more options now, but you also face far more competition and women cannot go through every single option they have. They will simply ignore 60-70% of them and focus o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:03 PM
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It's crazy how young women go after these types, then complain about how all men are trash. 200 IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 05:55 PM
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Here I agree, regardless of what the law is, a relationship between an underage teen and a much older adult is weird and Sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:35 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:48 AM
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Personally, I avoid toxic women like the plague. Doesn't mean I won't be physically attracted to them, but the moment I pick up toxic vibes/signals, I'm out (and tbh most of the time it's not worth the effort even for casual sex). Entitled/egocentric narcissists piss me off in general. But overall you're right, attractive people can afford to be more toxic because they are given a free pass from society. Also many men tolerate toxic behaviours from their partners because today they are tought to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:59 AM
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Yeah, feminists grossly misrepresent the power dynamics between men and women in the past. Sure, on average, men held more power than women but also had more responsibilities. And not just in the modern sense where responsibility= who works more hours, does more housework etc, we're talking about times when men used to go to war all the time, had to do extremely hard manual labour and overall being a peasant (which 90+% of the population were) sucked ass. Also the vulnerability of women is somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:04 AM
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One would argue that population control was the end goal all along
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:01 AM
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I assume as men we do not factor height unless it's extreme (midget/giant). Women are just biologically pickier, but other than that this obsession with height is mostly a modern era requirement where the man has to be 6"+ due to the internet/dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:46 PM
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Good thing that rape isn't common then, unless you live in Somalia, India or Zimbabwe. There's already a contract called "marriage" which sets the rules for a couple to have children. Now if you want someone paying you to have children, all you have to do is divorce your husband and you get child support. This is already a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:30 PM
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few couples make so much money that one salary can be "kept" by one person I am fully aware of this, we don't live in the 60s anymore when you could sustain a family of 5, a big house, and a vacation home on a single salary... If you're a SAHM then yes you get to do the vast majority of housework/childcare cause obviously your husband provides. In all other cases, the couple decides how to split their labour & chores/childcare. Obviously if one partner works more hours/earns more, the other is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:23 PM
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No one forces you to have children. If you treat raising children like an employment contract then by all means, do not reproduce please.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:44 PM
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Everyone gets paid for their labour. Also no one forces anyone to have children. Lol so a man has to give her half of his income while she keeps 100% of hers to raise children? What? 😂😂 And with expectations like this people wonder why birth rates are declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:43 PM
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I'm sorry but you clearly need to touch grass if you think tending to a toddler is more stressful than a high paying job. There are definitely men who slack with housework/childcare but there are also entitled women who want to work half the hours a man does and still split the housework. It's not happening. People used to be aware of these dynamics, only now they act like they don't understand how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:06 PM
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Do you lack reading comprehension? If you work 50 hours/week and spend say 20 hours for chores/childcare while your spouse works say 40 and 30 respectively, it makes no sense to complain, you both do the same hours just differently allocated. But even in the scenario you describe, high paying jobs are usually more stressful. If your job is low stress while your spouse has a high stress job, it's at least entitled to complain about doing more housework/childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:52 PM
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Which is why parents split childcare depending on their work schedule. Evidently the parent who works fewer hours picks a larger slack of child care. Again, I don't see why you are complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:15 PM
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Feminism = cherry picking stats and complaining about mostly fictional issues based on cherry picked stats
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:24 AM
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I don't get what you're complaining at. Division of labour shows that men tend to work more on average whereas women tend to spend more time on children/housework, on average. Accounting for both, if the data is accurate, it seems men work 0.4 hours more per week, on average. Do you want a man who works more more hours and does the same/more housework than you? How is that going to work out lmao?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:21 AM
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Although, I always cut ties with exes as a dude, most men definitely go back to exes. But I don't think it's so much due to wanting to tap that ass again, it's that you already know and have some degree of rapport with an ex and it feels easier and less demanding than to meet, build connection and impress someone entirely new.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:03 PM
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1 & 2 don't make much sense. Women are generally hypergamous when it comes to a man's looks/socioeconomic status. If the woman is significantly more attractive than the man in a relationship, it's usually because he provides something extra, typically money/status. The only reason you notice attractive women dating ugly men is because it's usually super models dating ugly rich dudes. Also it seems like this is a pattern because of how much it stands out when it happens. Our brains casually ignor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:28 AM
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There are 2 extremes. The ones who want you to be a tradcon fuckdoll and the others who want you to be a libslut fuckdoll. Neither are your friend, they just have different agendas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 02:39 AM
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High testosterone/libido I guess? Also the thrill of the "chase" for some dudes who are charismatic and can woo women easily. Also when you're young, you don't necessarily think about how your current decisions might affect future events.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:56 AM
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Are you considered old at 35 lol? He was banging women left and right well into his 50s. Then he had a couple of LTRs which all ended. He was also a business man, so he ticked all the typical boxes (handsome, affluent, charismatic etc). For the past 5-6 years he says all of his options are below his standards for an LTR. That's why even as a "high value" man, you need to be able to settle down eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:44 AM
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My uncle is 70 now and used to be a gigachad in his youth. Everyone I know speaks about how much "pussy" he's had. Now he is alone and one of the things he has admitted only to me is that he should have settled down with one of the "good women he dated". You're not going to be high testo, fit and young forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:29 AM
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My uncle used to "slay" in his youth and was a Chad. He's 70 now and alone. One thing he keeps repeating over the past few years is that he should have settled down with one of the good women he dated. I agree that the dating market is a shitfest for men, but you're not gonna be high testo, fit and young forever. If you don't invest in the right woman at the right time, if you're given the chance, you could risk spending the rest of your life single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:23 AM
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Height, hair, and facial structure are factors that massively determine male attractiveness, yet they're all 99% genetic and cannot be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:16 AM
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There real reason is they like the attention, the rest is cope 90% of the time. Women wear TONS of uncomfortable clothes/accessories and engage in painful/uncomfortable activities because they believe they make them look good (high heels, piercings, tattoos, wax shaving etc). You def don't wear the tightest booty shorts at the gym that highlight your g-string because it's "comfortable". Now, as far as how well it correlates with promiscuity, I have no idea and there's probably no reliable way to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:51 AM
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The majority of people can improve their situation. Now sure, if you're short, balding, have a rat face, and small wiener ain't much you can change. This doesn't change the fact the average person can benefit from self-impovement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:20 AM
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Pretty much, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:00 AM
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All I am saying is that economic conditions for the average person throughout the entirety of the western world have declined over the past 2 decades, yet public discourse is overly fixated with men vs women, lgbtqiasdodvj, and political correctness. Sounds kind of sus if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:53 PM
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It's generally true that women over the age of 30 tend to have fewer options than in their early 20s. Again, "generally" and "tend" are tentative terms and it also depends on genes and how well you maintain yourself, it's not like many men don't show signs of aging at 30+. Red pillers often take the extreme scenario of a situation and act like it's an absolute truth. The only valid criticism I see in the "wall" scenario is that there are women in their 40s who act like indecisive, hard-to-get 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:48 PM
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Crying over who has it worse? Yeah, that definitely contributes meaningfully to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:37 AM
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Name checks out then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:17 AM
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I'll be honest with you. I think this men vs women debacle is a psy op/divide and conquer ploy to divert public attention from other more serious issues. I am having a very hard time believing that playing the "oppression Olympics", has any net positive on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:51 AM
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What you represent is a part of who are. Socioeconomic status was always a part of one's attractiveveness and value as a potential mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:26 PM
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I referred to the hourglass and v-shape because there is scientific evidence suggesting we have a biological predisposition to liking people with these body types and it makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. Women with wider hips tend to be more fertile, whereas men with broad shoulders tend to be stronger. Other than that, beauty standards vary significantly based on a multitude of factors, like societal norms, technology, and personal experiences. Obviously, now where food is no longer…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:02 AM
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Biologically? Lol even sexual orientation can be affected by societal norms. Sure, men are generally attracted to the hourglass figure, whereas women are generally attracted to the v shape body, but these are very general, biological blueprints. Societal norms can greatly affect beauty standards, look at how in pre-industrial times, chubby men and women were considered attractive because being chubby meant you were of higher socioeconomic standing. Also let me tell you, when I served in the navy…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 11:58 PM
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You judge things from a completely solipsistic point of view. If you genuinely believe not being overweight and hairy are too much to handle for an "ideal physique", you clearly have no idea how much time and effort a man has to invest in the gym in order to get remotely close to having Thor's body. Social media literally push DRUGS to men for an ideal physique, what are even comparing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:54 PM
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And every advertisement, show, movie, magazine also shows tall steroid junkie men with square jaws, your point? Suddenly make up and shaving don't look so bad in comparison lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:46 PM
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Yeah, I think this mentality is toxic for everyone. We should strive to become better, not cope and expect others to just "accept us the way we are". At least for traits which can change, this obviously doesn't apply for characteristics which cannot be changed. There you should indeed learn to accept yourself as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:27 PM
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Lol no one pressures you to wear make up. I wear contact lenses partially because I look better without glasses not because anyone "pressures" me to wear them. But that's my personal choice, same goes for make up. The difference is I don't pretend like I'm not doing it for appearance based reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:23 PM
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I doubt women would go red pill in the self improvement department. There are many women with fixable flaws (ex. overweight, terrible fashion) who would rather complain about how "shitty" men are than self improve. This is highly enforced by the counterproductive advice they often give each other like "hang on sis", "men just don't see your worth" etc. The women who are smart enough to realise this, are already self improving. In the complaining department, women are already "red pilled", what d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:32 PM
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Just because you have the freedom to do something it doesn't make it rational... A short overweight woman wanting to only date fit tall men is an example of unrealistic standard. Same goes for the weaboo who wants that big titty anime gf. Reality =/= Disney/Anime
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:43 PM
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No, but I've seen friends date manipulative women which I honestly would probably never be attracted in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:41 PM
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Ok so relationships are not like water and food, is that what we are arguing over lol? I agree that the majority of men are undesirable, but strangely this wasn't THAT much of an issue before social media, was it? Did men all of a sudden become less attractive after Instagram and Tinder? Lol come on. No one is saying you should stop finding tall, fit men with full hair attractive, what I am saying is a woman needs to realistically evaluate her chances with a man like that. Also today all that ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:34 AM
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Relationships are not a necessity in today’s modern world According to whom exactly? Humans are social animals, we need to have friends and partners, I don't see how even this has become controversial in 2024. You're not "brave" or "strong" just because you think everyone is beneath you. Im just stating the fact that alot of them don’t meet the attractive threshold Has it ever occurred to you that this is due to social media promoting unrealistic standards? People were much happier and less lone…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:30 PM
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I agree 100%. The problem with technology is that it increasingly promotes parasocial relationships (online video games, Twitch, OnlyFans etc) and this applies for romantic relationships and friendships. Another subtle problem is that social media raise the beauty standards for both men and women. When men are constantly bombarded with fitness models and women are bombarded with steroid bros, your brain starts believing this is the new "standard".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 09:52 PM
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I don't think average is awful, average is average. The problem in my opinion is when people are convinced they deserve better without being able to meet these requirements themselves. Definitely, I don't condone staying in a relationship just because you're afraid of being single. I am simply saying that loneliness is on the rise because people have unrealistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 09:33 PM
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That’s true, he probably will exercise those options which is why women are going the single route Lol so you basically affirm my point that average women won't settle for anything less than Prince Charming? And you still maintain that this is somehow a reasonable standard and it's somehow men's fault they don't meet women's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 09:29 PM
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Honestly, most women are hardly a catch either. If average can't settle for average then most people are going to be lonely. Average women who think they deserve Chad because Disney told them so are no different from average men who want Lara Croft for a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 09:24 PM
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I don't think very many people argue that women shouldn't have freedom of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 09:14 PM
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I mean if the average man cannot settle for less than a model then he's probably going to be alone. Same applies for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 09:10 PM
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High standards need to extent beyond external appearance, to personal values and personality. Both men and women often tend to confuse "being hot" with "having a personality" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:58 PM
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Whereas most women are desirable? Unfortunately, when you're being told from a very young age by Disney, feminism etc that you deserve Prince Charming, it's only going to end in resentment for the vast majority of women, cause Prince Charming has plenty of choices and he will very likely exercise them, if you ever land one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:49 PM
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The underlying implication is that men who cannot attract women is due to them mistreating them somehow, when it's evident how moronic that is. Many women constantly get with abusive men, especially younger women, it's been proven by studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:09 PM
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Mental illness is over exaggerated by attention whores, backed by psychiatrists who profit off handling drugs like candy. Loneliness is very different and real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:31 PM
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Dating apps remind me of the current job market. Most employers are toxic, the ratio of candidates/jobs is really bad, even fewer companies are really hiring and you udergo bunch of tests/interviews which will probably end in your time wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:23 PM
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The vast majority of non European immigrants in Europe are Muslims from countries with much higher fertility rates than those they settle in. You can easily see how this pattern will shape European demographics in the coming decades... The US receives migrants from all over the globe, but it's not nearly as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:17 AM
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When the dating market is unregulated, historically we have this huge imbalance where top 20-30% of men have all the options and the rest fight for "scraps". The institution of marriage and institutional monogamy, not only helps in combating low birth rates, but also creates a more harmonious and egalitarian society in the dating department. Today, there are both economic and societal factors for this imbalance. The rising hookup and polyamory culture, creates significant risks when it comes to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:53 PM
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I'd like to believe this but given how increasingly comformist and numb newer generations are becoming with technology, the Internet and AI, I'm leaning more towards people just accepting that AI catfishing will be a negative aspect of dating, rather than abandoning dating apps altogether. This is a more pessimistic view, but people are becoming more and more uncomfortable with social interactions irl, which makes me doubt they will simply abandon the "comfort" of online dating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:06 PM
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All of this stems from the fundamental understanding that men are "powerful" and women are "powerless", which might have made sense in pre modern technology societies, but this is no longer the case due to the Internet and social media. Hence why only men are seen as groomers and manipulators, when they try to seduce much younger women than themselves, but women are seen as "girl bosses" for doing the same. It's true that the difference in physical strength between the two genders is still relev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:43 PM
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Kind of yes because people's attention spans and commitment are seriously damaged by social media and the seemingly high number of options. Something I've noticed is trust many people who sleep around for years simply get bored after the initial phase of infatuation which might last from 2 weeks to a couple of months. Then it's off to the new dopamine rush.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:31 PM
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It's a combination of factors (economic and social). Men today have to put more effort in order to be in worse relationships than before the social media era, which makes a good portion of them say "fuck it, the juice ain't worth the squeeze". Also the deterioration of values and the rise of vain culture coupled with social isolation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:19 AM
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A sample size of 1100 people is exceptionally small.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:42 AM
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I never understood people who make their partner all social interaction they need in their life, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:12 AM
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That's what I'm saying, simping has diminishing returns because you're spoiling the other person,.so over time they require more and more to remain satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:05 AM
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Yeah, but when your homie acts like this for more than a while you know he's a simp. I mean in the beginning of a relationship both parties are naturally more excited and spend more time together. If homie is 24/7 with her after three years he's a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:58 AM
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From most couples I know IRL who are like this , I would rather shoot myself than be with a woman like this, because they're usually manipulative, nagging and obnoxious. I think most simps in relationships simply have no healthy standard to compare theirs with so they think "I guess that's how it is".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:54 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I don't think being a giving person with your partner is "simping" when it's genuine. Simping is usually done out of desperation and often leads to a bunch of counterproductive behaviours which every person can point out with a clear head, but when you're ultra horny/lonely you feel like either they're going to help you get or maintain a girl. Also simping means no reciprocation. Your partner has more control and gets to exercise certain liberties in the relationship that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:47 AM
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I don't think most men are born (biologically) simps. Sure, some dudes might be more submissive or apathetic by nature, but for the majority I think it's a result of the environment they grew up with and the role models they adopted from their family. If your mother is the dominant figure in the house, your father is move passive, and you have no decent role models in your immediate family, then I believe you're more likely to adopt this mentality. However what is true, is that men on average de…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:41 AM
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That's the point I'm trying to make. Many dudes internally think "I need to simp because she has more options than me", but in reality she's far more likely to exercise these options if you simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:36 AM
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First of all I'm in a relationship. Secondly, I'm describing a broader phenomenon for modern men which I've observed not only from personal experience, but from a wider audience. Again, I'm not saying all women do this, obviously my GF isn't doing this. However, there's definitely a type of women that does is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:32 AM
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I took an approximate of the people officially diagnosed with Dark Triad personality traits, but sure there might be more men who are emotionally/physically abusive. Let's pump this number up to 5%? 6%? The issue is that since we're no longer living in the 60s, when beating women was common practice, physical abuse is thankfully rare. Now emotional abuse is harder to define and prove, but given how often I've seen people complain of "toxic" and "abusive" behaviours online and in real life, when …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:29 AM
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When a woman says her ex was "abusive", consider the following. Either she genuinely dated out of the 2-3% pool of Dark Triad men (psychopathic, Machiavellian, narcissistic) or she's simply labelling a man as "toxic" for setting boundaries. Which is statistically more probable?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:43 AM
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There's no amount of effort an average person can put it to date a 10. Probably an 8 either.I'm all for self improvement but this pure delusion. Even if I was a 10/10 man I wouldn't go for one, because the effort and maintenance are simply not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 07:28 PM
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Not really, the effect would only be negated if men had a way to artificially enhance their appearance as well Since men can't do it, it only results in more competition for men. But the real problem isn't make up today, it's social media. IG, Tinder, and Tik Tok have inflated women's options to a much higher degree than make up. Make up has been around for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:27 PM
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"Wholesome" is a very subjective term, if you ask 20 random people how they define it they're likely going to say different things. And lots of men complain about women being bad. There's valid criticism on both sides here and there's also BS, but it's easy to dismiss men/women as being "bad", instead of focusing on whether our choices are poor. And my point is that our choices have become poorer overall due to social media overemphasizing on superficial qualities, like physical attractiveness, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:43 PM
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If there were better men to choose i would have chosen them. You're willing to assume that all men are bad instead of you having poor selection criteria? I mean, statistically speaking, which is more probable? An incel complaining about how all women are trash is literally making the exact same argument, with the genders reversed 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:45 PM
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How is it that women complain about men they dated are emotionally stunted and aggressive, if they didn't choose to date them in the first place...? Also how can you determine someone is emotionally stunted or aggressive from a few DMs or even on the first date, if you rejected them? What other explanation is there other than women giving a pass to an emotionally stunted and aggressive man because he is attractive? Same thing goes for men btw, men are are also willing to ignore red flags in wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 05:09 PM
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I doubt anyone here argues not wanting an aggressive and emotionally stunted partner (yes, there are women who fit this description as well) is problematic or an example of high standards. Today, dating success is determined by looks and status to a much higher degree than it used to before social media, which means we all might miss out on good partners just because they don't tick all the boxes IG has enforced in our heads. That's what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:51 PM
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No, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell that our dating standards have been warped due to social media. There people who are below your expectations today who would be totally fine if we lived 10+ years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:51 PM
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100%, but most people need a social circle larger than 2. Sure, your two best buddies from junior highschool might be real friends but it can't be all the social interaction in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:44 PM
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Exactly, real male friendships tend to be pure, but they are extremely rare. But at the same time, having a social circle is important and it doesn't need to be a product of deep and profound friendship. People just need other people to engage in social activities. Sure, your best friend you know since junior high school might take a bullet for you (or you for him), but all the other times when bullet taking is not needed, your friendship may be mostly sending memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:37 PM
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True, but then again, you don't have that much control over your social group as you think. You meet people at school, college, and then work. That's like 90% of where your social relationships come from. If you're relatively lucky you might come across decent people, if not you're pretty much fucked. Work friendships never really worked for me, because people already have their social groups and tend to leave their "work friends" as a last priority. Also once you change jobs, your old work frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:31 PM
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"On average, women have more close friends and larger networks of social connections than men do. And the gap is growing. A survey I conducted last year found that men had experienced a substantial decline in close friendships over the past 30 years — a “friendship recession.” It's not just a workplace phenomenon, women's social behaviour in the workplace simply mirrors their social behaviour in general. Whether it's due to us being more competitive in general or simply being unable to develop c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:18 PM
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There's no universal conspiracy to "control" women, at least to a different degree than the elites control the plebes in every society. This is just a victim complex propagated by feminism. Now as far as female and male friendship goes, women tend to be more backstabby than men, but communicate their problems more effectively, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:58 PM
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We all engage in superficial activities, especially in our 20s, there's nothing wrong with that. However, you can't form a real friendship with someone just because you both used to get shit faced at parties over the past decade. Real connection requires that you invest time, effort and share meaningful experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:22 PM
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Count yourself lucky because what I describe is the norm nowadays based on evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:13 PM
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Not always, but even in this case, it's the man's fault he falls for this. It's like when women date abusive men and complain afterwards, if you tolerate abusive/manipulative behaviour, it's your fault to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:07 PM
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I know it sounds mean, but it's literally impossible for a woman to raise a child as her own (unless we're talking babies getting mixed up in the clinic level of shit) and then find out it's not his, whereas for a man to raise a child as his own for years only to later find out it's not his is a perfectly plausible scenario, albeit relatively rare. I'm not even talking finances here, I'm merely talking into account the emotional damage. Paternity testing should be standard procedure, there's lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:40 AM
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There's a weird phenomenon going on right now, I would call Schrodinger's dating market. On one hand it seems like women's standards are "lower" because they have sex more easily than they did before social media, but at the same time women's standards are "high" because they ask for men who are taller, fitter, more affluent etc. I think the reality is that the "high standards" are only for mostly superficial attributes which concern physical attractiveness and status, however when it comes to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:01 PM
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If a woman claims all her exes were abusive/toxic/manipulative etc, she's either shaming these men for setting boundaries or she legit dated out of the 2% pool of men who actually have Dark Triad personalities. In the latter case, you seriously need some psychoanalysis to determine why you are attracted to such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:21 AM
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This has always been my mentality but quickly enough you realise the majority of men don't think like this. In fact, if they've been dry for a while, they would bang anything willing... Humans in competition, like men when flirting, do not have a short term interest to behave collectively. If they think they have a chance to smash they're not going to give a flying fuck if that damages the dating market in the long run. It's why people tax evade, vandalise public property, don't clean up after t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:00 AM
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That's what I mean, social media have artificially inflated standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:01 PM
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I guess women weren't so "pragmatic as fuck" before IG, Tinder and OF hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:07 PM
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So there are no women complaining online all the time about how they can't find the man they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:08 PM
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All other things equal, men who are overly aggressive/macho tend to have more dating success than men who are deficiently (for lack of a better word) aggressive/macho, so engaging in the former behaviour seems more forgiving by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 01:30 AM
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What's my direction? I'm 31 and I'm getting more attention from younger women than I ever did in my 20s lol. Ah, solid evidence there, Tinder data and WheatWaffles saying "trust me bro, all guys I know who slay are mid 20s at worst". 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:06 AM
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It really depends on a lot of things, the major issue being the physical attractiveness of a man. Dude who's 40, mostly bold, and overweight isn't going to attract younger women like the 40yo who's fit, younger looking, and generally fun to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:53 PM
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Yes, many people are solipsistic. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:19 AM
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It's like the mid 40s dudes who go to clubs alone to pick up college girls aged 19-22... A girl in this age range is usually looking to have fun so she goes for dudes who are slightly older than her and physically attractive. It's usually at 25+ that women go for much older men for the stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:20 PM
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Solipsism. Notice how these posts usually go "Well I don't do this therefore no one does" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:17 PM
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There's no such thing as unconditional love, except between parents and children, but even in this case there are exceptions. Beyond that, there's no such thing as "unconditional love" between adults, there are always conditions, whether it's looks, status, personality or combination thereof. This also applies to women, the difference is that the bar for women is generally lower, but let's not pretend like women are loved unconditionally either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 08:35 PM
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This is why I'm tired of saying that men and women do not process emotions the same way, thus therapy needs to be approached differently for each gender, generally speaking, only to be met with the profound argument "that's sexist!". Men need to feel capable, useful/resourceful, and appreciated. no amount of talking about your feelings in therapy can make up for "functional" inadequacies a man has. This is not to say that therapy isn't useful, but it needs to take into account the patient's need…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:05 PM
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I mean if she makes poor decisions, she's not going to have the same quality of choices. Sure, making poor decisions can be more forgiving for women than for more, but they still have repercussions. I think the main difference is that poor choices for men have immediate repercussions, whereas for women tend to have long term repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:41 PM
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Short term it may seem this way because of the dating advantage, social media attention, lower accountability standards etc, but long term the social media culture of today is detrimental to women as well. If a woman cannot commit or thinks every available man is "beneath her", it only leads to loneliness after 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:05 PM
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Well society expects you to protect and provide that's what I mean and you are held accountable to a higher degree, generally speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:01 PM
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Mens' ceiling is higher than women's, but only a small minority reaches there to begin with. For the average person in the western world, there are definitely higher expectations for men than for women, it's just evolutionary biology. People who say "women live life on easy mode" are only thinking of top 20% women. The problem is both men and women have a selection bias for attractive people when it comes to judging the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 03:40 PM
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Cope. Wait till she reaches 40 without a partner and we'll see how fulfilling a career alone truly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:38 PM
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Yeah ironically the platforms which have created these problems are the ones whose algorithms suggest you F&F clips or some blue-haired feminist's clips. The worst part about this is that it creates eco chambers without you actually realising. When all you see on social media are like minded content, you start believing this is popular by association, ignoring this is just content catered by the algorithm to your interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:20 PM
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The problem is that men seeking advice on self-improvement, usually get the raw, unfiltered truth in response. Women on the other hand get blissful bs like "you're a queen", "if he can't see your worth he's losing". This creates more false entitlement to women which in turn causes frustration when men don't "see her for what she's worth".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:14 PM
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"Women are wonderful" effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 09:09 PM
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If you arrange a date with someone cancelling on the last minute or never showing up is unaccountable behaviour. If you don't like them, don't date them but be upfront don't waste their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:59 AM
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If she's used to taking 8+ inch dicks on the daily then I can probably see how her vagina might be desentised, but she's probably exaggerating for sympathy points. Other than that I have to agree, no one cries about the bricklayers, the miners, the seafarers or even the waiters, I don't see how a pornstar poses an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:37 AM
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There are various porn stars who have admitted they were lured by the promise of easy money, do you think they lock you in a cage and flog you in order to shoot bukkake scenes? It honestly buffles me as well how one could swoop so low, but the answer is that yes, if the paycheck is fat enough, some people will commit the most depraved sexual acts. There are people who kill for money, you don't think there aren't people who will take multiple facials on camera for money?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:23 AM
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There is a fine line between fantasy and reality when it comes to sexual kinks. Even if there is a correlation between watching violent pornography and committing sexual violence, it doesn't logically follow that one causes the other. For all we know, people who are already violent actually have a tendency to watch violent porn or maybr both behaviours are caused by a third factor. Although, I agree that teenagers and young adults can probably be negatively influenced by this kind of porn and sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:18 AM
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Not an incel but not really. You will find that many misogynistic men are in relationships, married or fuck around because they're attractive and/or well off. Some women do indeed vent off the bitterness/trauma they have from "Chads" to incels, many of whom are not even misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:08 AM
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Of course they do, that's why you vet them. A guy who just wants to bang isn't usually going to hang around for long. Men also vet women for relationships, I don't just start investing emotionally in a woman a week after dating her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:14 PM
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How do you suggest a woman do this? The same way she vets men in the "maybe" category, which is typically by withholding sex for a certain period to ensure the man actually likes her and doesn't want to bang her a couple of times and then disappear. Such as? That popular guy who works as a DJ, sells weed as his weekend hustle, and has probably slept with 200+ women, might not be husband material, just speculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:52 PM
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According to the World Health Organization (WHO), approximately 1 in 3 women will experience sexual violence in their lifetime, with 7% of those women having experienced rape or attempted rape. Indeed, a quick Google search reveals that 7% is way off from 33%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:48 PM
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Whenever I've discussed the topic of red flags with women, I often get the same response which is some variation of "you can't judge a book by its cover". If as a either man or a woman you are willing to ignore the obvious red flags and "follow your heart", you can't come complaining 6 months later when the situation turned to shit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:43 PM
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I'm gonna have to dispute that 33% of all women have been raped, you seriously pulled that out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:34 PM
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I think the real issue here is that women tend to not properly vet men whom they find very attractive. When a woman is in the "maybe" territory about dating a man, she's gonna vet the fuck out of him first, however when it's a guy she really likes, she's going to proceed sexually much faster which leaves you vulnerable to shitty treatment from pretty fuckboys. Honestly, some of these dudes are walking red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:16 PM
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Then why do women often cite "that one time I got catcalled" as anecdotal evidence that the average man behaves this way? Does the average man catcall or abuse women? Cause if that's the implication I'm gonna need some hard evidence to accept this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:08 PM
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To me, and to many others here, it sounded like you describe the male attention women receive as something inherently negative due to sexual harassment, which overall is not such a frequent phenomenon as some people make it out to be. I agree that many men only view the positives of being a woman, but so do women when it comes to being a man. Each gender faces different challenges and we shouldn't overlook either of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:03 PM
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I'm sorry but what you describe is the female version of the black pill that a lot of feminists talk about. "Being a woman is tragic because men want to rape you". Sure, it is definitely a real issue that we cannot truly comprehend as men because it's not something that directly affects us, but going too far into this victimhood mentality that women are constantly preyed upon by men and that every man is a potential rapist, is pure doomerism and also poisons your perception of men. The men who c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:01 PM
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Well, men are bitter towards women in their prime (20-30), that's why you often hear us complain about them being too picky, arrogant, superficial etc. Women are no different, they're also bitter towards men in their prime (30-40) because that's when we start to have some power over the dating market whilst theirs begins diminishing. That's the source of women complaining about age gap relationships. I've never seen a 20yo woman complain about this issue, it's always women aged 30+. Can't be a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:58 PM
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It's different for men than it is for women. Generally, because men are expected to know what they're doing more, casual encounters can help give some experience. For women, because the first time is very intimate and emotionally significant, it's probably better if it happens within a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:49 PM
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100% but women today have become wayyy to accustomed to having their reality suggarcoated and their feelings safeguarded which if you look at the big picture, it has become very problematic and counter-productive even for them in the long run. I agree women do not have the same capacity to process the "harsh reality" like men do, but pretending like we live in candyland when it couldn't be further from the truth creates more problems than it solves. You can still more or less tell women the trut…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:26 PM
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This is exactly what I've been trying to tell my RP friends... Constantly shitting on women, even if it's valid criticism, makes you look like a prick. I am not saying you should go with their flow all the time, but being diplomatic is definitely the best way to avoid unnecessary drama. That said, let's not normalise cucking men out of speaking openly completely... If women today are so used to having everything sugar-coated and are hurt because I don't prefer tattooed chicks or women who smoke …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:17 PM
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These questions are so hypothetical because they imply that the masses have collective will. How would such a large number of socioeconomically diverse individuals consciously come to a mutual decision and commit to it for so long? It's like saying what if ALL workers went on strike for higher salaries without the involvement of any Unions or Labour Syndicates. The only way I can see such a hypothetical scenario play out is that even if the average man did a sex strike, most top men would seize …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:57 AM
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Well, the "pushers" do not view anything as inherently masculine or feminine (except for toxic masculinity of course) because their agenda involves the abolition of gender roles. I am not saying femininity is discarded, I am saying we are experiencing the normalisation of gender role reversal, but only where it suits the woke agenda. The reason I cited the push into STEM and high profile corporate positions, is because these were mostly traditionally male fields and now feminists push for women …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:45 AM
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Sex symbols act both ways... Men want to bang Ariana Grande and women want to be like her. Women want to bang Jason Mamoa and men want to be like him. Almost all celebrities, with minor exceptions, are conventionally/traditionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:33 AM
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Yeah, when it comes to age gap relationships suddenly all these progressive "it's my right you can't tell me what to do" folks suddenly become suspiciously conservative...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:38 PM
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OP is a bit off, but has a point. Men are encouraged to be more feminine and women to be more masculine today. Evidence for the latter is how they try to push women into STEM, high authority positions, and promote the "successful career woman" model which is highly unsustainable because a) women don't generally want to work 60-hour weeks and b) it's extremely difficult to be a mother without neglecting your career and vice versa. Now as far as pop culture goes (music, movies etc), they can't put…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:33 PM
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Your case might be different, but generally speaking taller men have more options. Personally, I'm 5"9 and I've definitely felt like I was rejected by women based on height alone (despite having an attractive face and a fit build) or that they shit tested me a lot more than they would have a taller man. Maybe it's the taller dudes you date who rely on height alone whereas the shorter guys had to compensate (gym, money etc) for their stature. I do agree that some shorter men definitely have a Nap…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:20 PM
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Actually, if you discussed ideal height with women a few years ago, they used to say they wanted a man who "towers over them". If she's 5"3 even a 5"8 man towers over her. If you ask men they will tell you they also like to tower over women, but a 6"3 guy doesn't simply tower over a 5"3 girl, it's like David with Goliath. So I think naturally our height preferences are relevant to our height. It's just social media which have convinced women they need to date NBA players.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:36 PM
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Read again. I didn't say she shouldn't be attracted to tall men, I said it's ridiculous when a short girl has a hard "6"0+ only" standard. I'm also attracted to big breasts, but I never had a hard "C-cup+ only" standard because most girls are A or B and that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:16 PM
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Probably closer to superficial. The most prevalent example I can think of is height. Ok sure, a tall man is better than a shorter man, all other things equal, but how does a 5"3 girl qualify for a 6"1 guy exactly? Also why does suboptimal height alone completely disqualify an otherwise attractive man today...? Also the easiest way to see how the "6"0+ guys only" standard is complete nonsense, is that in countries where we use the metric system, most women will tell you they want a man to be 180c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:40 AM
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Yeah 100% agree, I'm not super Red Pilled either, in fact I often argue with people who call themselves Red Pilled because they think "all women are whores" or "only date virgins" or because they express extreme resentment towards women which is very toxic. To me, the Red Pill says certain truths about dating and women, if you decide to become misogynistic because of that then that's your fault. It's basically like some feminists who realize certain men are abusive, manipulative or see women as …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:23 AM
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According to OECD, the developed world involves the US, Canada, half of Europe, Japan and Australia.Idk about Japan specifically, but this is a problem in many countries because rape is hard to prove as it's often your word against the other person's at court. That said I do think that the age of consent being at 13 years old is pretty ridiculous... China is still considered a developing country as far as I know, so what I'm saying doesn't apply there. Sure, some States are shitholes when it com…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:34 PM
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Eh, the current economy is cucked by so many factors. The 2008 recession, climate change, the pandemic, the Russia-Ukraine conflict that it doesn't even come close. After the 80s it was mostly smooth sailing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:12 PM
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You're still physically developing when you're 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:14 PM
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Yep, it's just that the economic conditions we grew up with in combination with the invention of the Internet (social media and dating apps in our case) completely changed dating for the worse. Every time I try to explain that to anyone aged 60+, they completely fail to realise how disadvantageous dating has become to most men today, because in their heads, all you have to do today is approach a woman at a bar and buy her a drink or meet a girl through mutual friends. These could be simple enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:27 PM
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No, the economic boom happened during the 70s-90s. If you were born in the 50s, you would be around 20 by 1970, where people typically enter the labour force.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:17 PM
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No, I'm speaking strictly about the developed world, the developing world is a different story. All I'm saying is that women have certain benefits in the modern world generally that men don't. It's ok, but let's not pretend they don't exist. Especially today where there's constant talk about feminism and equality. You can't have an honest talk about equality without acknowledging that women do have certain privileges in the modern world, it's disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 12:13 PM
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That's what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:19 PM
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Which I think probably shows that women do not really plan to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:29 PM
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some of these complaints are not valid Another commenter asked me which special treatments women get and I cited a few, how is this a complaint? women don't have the physical strength Of course they don't, but still some men are tasked with doing heavy, back-breaking and hazardous labour. I am not saying they should have to do it, but no having to is definitely a privilege. women get lighter prison penalties than men for certain crime but also harder prison penalties than men for others What cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:15 PM
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I didn't claim it to be exclusively a gendered issue. To me the Red Pill refers to uncomfortable truths which people act like they are not real, so it's not limited to the relationship between the two genders. That's why I mentioned the wider socioeconomic background first which applies to both men and women. So being "Red Pilled" essentially means opening your eyes and acknowledging these uncomfortable truths. ​ The parenting skills of one’s mother and father, heavily influence our outcomes. Ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:55 PM
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There is no "source" for the first examples because there is no "study" which can be performed in order to prove them, these are purely observational. Unless you perform a real life experiment which is extremely costly to do and I'm unaware if any have been conducted. If women receive more lenient penalties for actual crimes, do you really have to ask whether they receive more lenient treatment in many other aspects of life which are far less severe (like vase breaking and speeding tickets)? All…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:27 PM
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If a boy at school breaks a vase he's gonna get scolded, if a girl breaks a vase she may get not even get told off. If a man gets pulled over for speeding he will likely get a speeding ticket, if a woman is pulled over she may get away with a warning more often. If a man fucks up at work he's more likely to get yelled at and be fired, if a woman fucks up at work she can more easily pin it on someone else. Women are not eligible for the draft, receive lighter prison penalties for the same crimes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:10 PM
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Well, people often try to explain the current gender dynamics without accounting for economic factors which paved the way. Then came social media and dating apps which completely changed the dating market (for the worse from the male POV).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:30 PM
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I think the Red Pill rage my generation (young Millennials) experience goes beyond being lied about and by women. We were raised by Boomer parents who grew up during the economic boom of the 70s-90s and thus instilled in us the terrible mindset that "life is easy, money is all around, you can become anything you want". This weak and lazy parenting was largely considered "open minded" and "progressive" at the time. Then we grew up and realised that life is hard, money is scarce and you can't beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:40 PM
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Agreed. Analyzing the proper course of action based on a spreadsheet is very different from actually taking action. The emotional state you're in when connecting with people and especially when flirting can be more impactful than whether you tick theoretical boxes per se (status, looks, money etc). After all, our decision making is highly emotional, we are not motivated at heart by reason and strategy to engage in certain actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:29 PM
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I think this is the simplest explanation, I don't see how OP draws the inference that women don't like high IQ men per se from what he cites. I think many people like OP have this false dichotomy in their head, where a man is either a high IQ beta nerd or a low/medium IQ alpha chad. The only valid point I see is that indeed women are turned off by men who are overly analytical or abstract, which is more of high IQ trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:07 PM
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The funny thing is all men have to do is stop simping for women online. Don't follow random chicks because they have their tits out, don't like their pics, don't comment on their posts and don't DM. Simple enough right? Too bad people are too dumb to act collectively. When women get worshipped online that raises the bar dramatically and only top tier men get to date/fuck. You literally get nothing out of liking a girl's pic other than feed her ego, there's an army of horny men doing the exact sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:23 PM
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Every person has an inherent bias against unattractive and in favour of attractive people, the only difference is that for men the bar is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:54 PM
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Fake positivity is more of a female issue. If you're an overweight woman who dresses like crap, your friends are more likely to tell you blue pilled BS like "just be yourself", "if men don't see your worth, they're the ones losing" etc etc. This is because women either don't want to be "mean" and address the elephant in the room or they enjoy feeling superior to their less attractive friend. Men on the other hand are more likely to be honest and tell their friends "bro you need to lose weight, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:45 PM
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Hating men is just as unproductive and toxic as hating women. The more you get brain washed by feminism that hating men is ok because rape, despite is being exceptionally rare in the West, the more likely you are to spend your 40s with multiple cats, Zanax and cheap red wine... Besides just because women are less physically aggressive, it doesn't mean they can't be manipulative, emotionally abusive or sociopathic. So it makes sense hating all women because there are crazy bitches...? Smart peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 04:36 PM
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The argument that women are strong and independent but at the same time are brainwashed by the patriarchy when it comes to age gap relationships or career preferences, is my all time favourite hypocrisy of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:08 PM
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Uncomfortable truths hurt, I guess. In my experience, women tend to be more likely to want someone better than them. Neckbeards know they have no chance at a supermodel. Also women get blue pilled from a young age with useless dating advice. Instead of being told to "lose weight" or "dress better" by their friends (like men do), they are told that "they will eventually find someone who like them for who they are".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 01:14 AM
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Yes, celebrities are not a representative example of the average person lol. I mean, everyone on Hollywood has slept with everyone else, so in their world there's no such thing as monogamy or modesty. Most of them are in the top 0.01% in terms of physical attractiveness, status and wealth. Drugs and orgies are casual things for them. That said, monogamous relationships are challenging which is why I also can't stand people on this sub who are like "Women are hoes today, where's my virgin?". Bro,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 01:04 AM
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I was hit on by an American tourist the other day who was objectively a 4/10 at best. She also wanted me to buy her a drink despite being the one approaching me lmao. I'm so glad I don't live in the US... But yeah, the few times that women have approached me they were way below what I would ever go for. On the other hand, it's dudes I mostly see going for girls worse than them. Not than the other way around doesn't happen, but I think that's the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:49 AM
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Agreed, but open marriages are even more so. To me, having an affair with your son's teenage friend screams no rules. Besides romantic relationships, like all social relationships, involve power and control. Usually the one who prefers the marriage open is the more "powerful" and the one who's less emotionally invested in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:36 AM
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It's extremely difficult to make open marriages work, only a small minority in which there are strict rules have a chance to work. Open marriages like Will and Jada Smith's are simply an example of how badly open relationships without any rules can go. Still a girl who shows emotional commitment is preferable. Sure, dating her when she's recently broken up won't work but if you give her the right amount of time to heal and move on you're fine. If you've never learnt to commit in your life, you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:20 AM
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Lol the problem with Will Smith's wife is not that she's not a virgin. It's that she's slept with a bunch of people (including one of her son's friends) while being married to him. It's his fault for tolerating it, sure, but it doesn't change that the vast majority of men consider an open marriage like theirs a joke. It makes a huge difference. A girl who was in a 4 year relationship has demonstrated that she can do commitment, a girl who spent her 20s sleeping around hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:37 PM
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I don't think most men can afford to cover 100% of their GFs'/wives' expenses anymore, we don't live in the 80s or 90s... I would be fine with a 65/35 split if she has no source of revenue, but paying 100% of rent and utilities with the current prices? No fuck that. The main issues with dating a woman in her 30s is that she's going to want marriage/kids far earlier than I will and likely will prefer to be in a relationship where a man will be the main provider. Other than that I'm fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:09 PM
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Regardless, I think it's a good example that marrying young doesn't really work anymore. People are way to immature for marriage at the age of 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 07:51 PM
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Even above mid tier men have experienced being flaked on on the last minute, women showing interest only for validation without any serious intentions, extended periods of loneliness and "dryness" etc. I think that's what most men are complaining about, not the inability to run a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:29 PM
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I don't see how this is a male specific double standard. There are both men and women who are hypocritical when it comes to dating standards of the opposite sex, the only difference is that it's generally easier for women to find a man who ticks these boxes even if they don't. As far desirability goes, I agree that dudes who want 60s era dating dynamics only see the pros and disregard the cons, however it's true that in today's world social media and feminism have damaged the dynamics. Today, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:25 AM
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Women are better at taking pictures than we are. Now add the visual enhancements like make up, lip gloss, hair extensions, fake eyelashes/nails etc, filters and the fact like 80% of people on dating apps are dudes, and you get a highly competitive situation for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:40 PM
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Bro what? Having multiple kids in poor countries is due to higher infant mortality rates and culture. Also, there's a negative correlation between a woman's education level and the number of kids she has. In poorer countries, women don't have much saying when it comes to education and how many kids they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:20 PM
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If we look at a teenager,, aged 16-17, from the back we may think "she looks good". Then you look at the face and be like "she's probably underage, nope". That's different from being attracted to minors... Anyone catcalling an 11yo girl is a pedo harasser, no sane man is physically attracted to a preteen girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:12 PM
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TRP generally makes many simplifications of female behaviour, however you assume that having a great career, financial stability and a house today are the most basic things. In the current economy, very few men can afford to be the sole/main providers and many women have their heads up in the clouds when it comes to that. Not only because there is a trend of women getting high education and better jobs, which in turn creates higher standards for a potential partner, but also because starting a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:56 PM
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I know, I'm only referring to the small subgroup of women who complain about being hit on in dance bars and clubs. Most women I've interacted with or seen others interact with in such places were usually polite even if they weren't interested in the man they were approached by. At this point, it's the man's "job" to get the hint she's not interested and leave. Rarely have I ever encountered uncalled for rude behaviour by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:13 PM
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Cuckoldry involves emotional attachment. You enjoy watching you gf/wife who you are emotionally attached to fuck someone else (for whatever reason). Watching a random girl get fucked isn't cuckoldry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 01:29 PM
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Then they will come and say that you’re only allowed to approach a woman if you’re attractive enough, or if she’s in the right mood , emotional state of mind to be approached, well let me tell you that men are the proactive gender. I've never heard a woman straight out say a man's not allowed to approach her if he's not attractive enough. Emotional state and mood are indeed things you cannot tell, unless you are a mind reader. If you want to avoid being hit on, you may want to avoid places where…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:06 AM
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Physical intimacy (not necessarily sex) and commitment are mutually built throughout the relationship, no one is owed anything. The more you familiarise with each other, the higher the degree of intimacy and commitment which is technically developed. Just as a girl finds guys who push for sex after 2 dates annoying, we find it similarly annoying when a girl expects LTR-level commitment (and I don't mean monogamy, I refer to time and emotional investment) when we're dating for 2 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:01 AM
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Nothing in life is guaranteed. Also, self-improvement is a life long process, it doesn't just stop at some point. If you treat self improvement transactionally (i.e. I go to the gym, dress well and socialize just to find a gf), chances are you're gonna stop once your goal is reached and eventually you will end up where you started.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:45 PM
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JP got hated on just for voicing sympathy towards incels and men who are generally suicidal or marginalised... He hasn't even voiced anything misogynistic, you can disagree with him but only people who've never heard anything he says or idiots actually think he's a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:22 PM
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Not really if there is no coercion/deception. If a woman wants to be a rich Chad's wife who gets provided for 100% but knows her husband sleeps around, she knows what she's signing up for. Similarly, if a man willingly dates a single mom and raises her children as his own, he knows what he's signing up for. FnF are braindead, Tate makes slightly more sense but his lifestyle only works for the ultrarich and some of his points are contradictory. The rest of us are probably better off in normal rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 10:05 PM
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Some TRPers who advocate for open polygamy on the male side only, balance it out by saying the man should fully adhere to traditional male roles (100% provision and protection of the woman). Whether you agree or disagree that's the trade off for them. How would the female equivalent work in your example? The woman gets provided for AND gets to sleep around? This is completely one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:33 PM
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What's so fun about hooking up as a woman, never understood it. You have sex with a dude you barely know who might get aggressive, push too far or treat you like a sex toy. I hear women constantly complain about these things. Also I've heard women say they want intimacy for sex. What intimacy is there when you've known the other person for 2 hours? The least memorable sex I've had as a man was hook ups, but at least I didn't have to worry about getting beaten or raped. Not saying sex has to alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:17 AM
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I don't think the current dating dynamics are healthy or beneficial in any way for anyone but a small minority of "top tier men" in the West who can get many women easily via Instagram/Tinder. Everyone else is literally getting screwed to a degree, so no matter how much an average man self improves he still has to settle for worse options than before the social media era.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:04 PM
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Or it's because men tend to have higher sex drives due to testosterone, so they're more likely to express fetishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:16 PM
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Was there ever any real doubt regarding whether a man should get into a serious relationship with a promiscuous woman? If you really don't mind her promiscuity then go ahead, but if you do, then there was a bunch of red flags you ignored to begin with... I get it might not always be obvious at first and when you start seeing hints you've already caught feelings and invested in the relationships, but if the girl's lifestyle is incompatible with your values, just leave. This has nothing to do with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:48 PM
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Saying girls "bait" men implies they do it on purpose. The truth is when girls are immature, they are more attracted by fuckboys, whereas the more they mature they go for financially stable men. Girls around 20 don't really care about a man's future potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:07 AM
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Yeah, similarly to how most "normies" would totally date a hot goth girl vs a fat goth one. Most people I know irl who struggle with dating like people out of their leagues (albeit it's worse for men in the digital age due to the Internet inflating women's SMV). I'm willing to bet that dating within various subcultures (goths, metalheads, punks/antifa) is even tougher, with the Pareto effect being even more prevalent, since a small minority of attractive goth/punk men get all the goth/punk chick…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:51 PM
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You must be really confused comparing a sex worker to date or therapy. Have you ever been with a woman who didn't need to be paid or be provided with free food just to tolerate your company? The more you say, the more it makes me think otherwise. I literally never said I'm owed sex because I paid or owed sex at all, you're projecting so hard it's like I'm watching a full movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:17 AM
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I didn't ask for nails done, new outfit or hiring the royal court to prepare her for the date, you must have read wrong 🤣🤣🤣.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:08 AM
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No, using someone for sex is when you are deceptive about your true intentions. If both parties agree it's just casual sex it's not deceptive. Similarly to how if she had told me prior to ordering that she has no money and I still went along, I would have no right to complain. My intentions were to get to know her, not have sex on the first date. You are projecting so hard you can't even read straight lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:03 AM
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Apparently that's how dating works in the UK (I'm not from there). Many Zoomers think it's harassment to hit on a girl face to face but completely normal to hit up a complete stranger on Tinder. So while residing in the UK I'd rather risk dating terrible women than being accused of sexual harassment because I spoke to a girl at a pub. 🤡 world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:50 AM
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Some guy slept with a bunch of chicks because he looked like Messi. It's by all means deception but by no means rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:46 AM
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You're right, I rephrased.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:41 AM
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Where exactly did I say I expect sex in exchange for paying for a meal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:36 AM
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What are the probabilities of getting pregnant/contracting STDs with proetection? Pretty low. How much does the day after pill cost? 40 bucks? Women pay a heavier toll for sex generally, that's a biological truth regardless of whether you had sex with a rando from the club or your long term husband. The difference when you get used for sex is not unwanted pregnancy or STDs, these can occur within an LTR as well, it's the exact same ego blow to being used for money on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:33 AM
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The way I see it, a man who keeps paying for dates and gets none does become less desirable if word gets around. Similarly to how a man who hits on every girl in the office but is rejected is a loser vs the guy who has banged 5 girls from the office is a "Chad". I doubt women are cool with a guy who consistently fails to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:22 AM
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Getting used for sex or for money is the same deceptive behaviour by manipulative individuals, just different genders. Our problems are not any less important than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:08 AM
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It was around £30. The issue is not the money, I can financially recover from that... the issue is the feeling of being used which is exactly similar to the feeling of a guy using you for sex. The common denominator is deception in both cases. Again, accidents can happen in LTRs as well, which is why your example is not specific for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:01 AM
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The whole perception of "high" vs "low" value lies on who's the player vs who gets played. If I get played by one woman and learn from my mistake it doesn't make me "low" value similarly to how a woman who gets used for sex once and learns from that isn't "low" value. If I keep getting used by women who only want me for money is similar to a woman who keeps getting used for sex. The issue is both of us fail to recognise a pattern which leads to failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:55 AM
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Agreed, but gender equality means acknowledging the instances in which your gender engages in shitty behaviour. Not acting like men are the bane of this world lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:32 AM
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It's not the monetary value, its the emotional damage of being used. Unless you are at an expensive restaurant, in which case why go to an expensive restaurant for a first date if you can't afford it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:13 AM
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Women also brag about expensive holidays, gifts and being driven around in luxurious cars, what does it matter? What he tells his friends the following day doesn't impact you because you will never find out. What impacts you is that you felt "used". Which is exactly the same feeling you get as a man when you realise a woman faked interest just so she could get free food and drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:06 AM
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Indeed, but having unprotected sex with someone you barely know is not a good idea regardless of whether he's still around the following day or not. Psychologically speaking, being used for money/sex feels just as degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:02 AM
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Online dating coaches are a scam. When you develop as a person, your self esteem increases. When your self worth increases, you "magically" become better at dating. Many people date terrible partners because they have low self worth. Also working in sales helps. As much as I hated my old sales job, it helped me build negotiation and persuasion skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:58 AM
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It definitely has a cultural/social component. Look at ancient, pre-Christian civilisations like Greece and Rome. Homosexuality was widely practised and it had a strong cultural aspect of "bonding" between two soldiers who were also lovers. Homosexuality became largely taboo with the rise of Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Islam, Judaism). While certain people are definitely homosexual due to genetic factors, sexuality is overall impacted by social perceptions and conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:51 PM
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There is no accurate method to record the number of partners a person has had. Most self reported studies regarding something so personal are likely to be inaccurate, especially between men and women because different people have different definitions of what constitutes a partner. For instance, men tend to count oral sex whereas women do not. Also women may not count brief hook ups. So, is it accurate to say a woman who has had sex with 5 men, blown another 4, and fucked another 2 in the backse…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 03:29 PM
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Usually the red flags fly left and right but people choose to ignore them. This is something I never quite understood because I never bothered with toxic women myself, not even in my early 20s. If a girl was playing games, I was immediately out even if it meant being single for a while, but apparently not everyone thinks this way. It's also why I never understood why certain men disappear when they find girlfriends. Sure, it happens to all of us in the beginning of a relationship, but if you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:37 AM
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This is universal. Attractive people receive better treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:36 AM
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In most big cities in the West you cannot afford to rent on a median salary, let alone raise a family. This has become a global economic phenomenon, I don’t see how it’s the path of least resistance since it’s not a matter of choice. Economic conditions have worsened since the recession of 2008.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:59 PM
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Generally, men are better off in their 30s and onward (provided they are in good shape and have a stable income), but the whole concept of teen love is kind of wrong. Dating in your early 20s is considerably harder due to inexperience and qualities you get later in life, but if you take a look at most men who can’t date, there’s usually a good reason they are single which is unrelated to missing out on “teen love”. If you miss out on teen love and can’t get a girl later on, there are definitely …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:17 PM
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These terms are so misunderstood and misused it’s ridiculous… Sexism refers to false, detrimental perceptions about a gender, which may not be factual or even if factual don’t justify one’s inference. Ex. Women shouldn’t drive because they are worse drivers than men / Men . Even if women were worse drivers, it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t drive. Misogyny/misandry literally mean hatred for women/men which apart from being much stronger that mild sexism, it describes a personal feeling one has for …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:33 PM
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Honestly, it is. Many girls in their early 20s don’t plan their return when going clubbing/partying late cause they know some guy is gonna do taxicab service. This reminds me of a girl who used to aggressively hit on me at a party ages ago, to the point everyone was like damn dude make a move, then when I did she rejected me. She even had the audacity to ask me for a ride back despite living in a part of the town which was at least a 20min drive from me. Needless to say she had to pay for a taxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:56 AM
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If you find certain things about her past sub optimal it’s because you’re insecure. If a woman said “I like X guy but he’s been with so many girls, he’s a fuckboy”, you’d find it perfectly reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:01 AM
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It’s not just about the face. In the pic from OP’s post it’s a dude’s face on a girl’s body. If you were to place the male version of the swap on a taller, more masculine body, it would definitely look much better. How attractive we find a face is also influenced by the body. That said, male attractiveness standards are still higher than females’.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:56 AM
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I’m not talking about your case though, I’m talking about the general population. It’s not that things have to end badly, it has to do with how awkward it usually is to be friends with an ex. When you’ve been so intimate with someone, downgrading to simply being friends doesn’t usually work because there’s likely gonna be underlying jealousy, hidden expectations, competition etc. Which in the majority of cases boils down to non genuine friendship and leads to one of the two scenarios I mentioned…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:19 PM
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What other reasons are there to remain friends with an ex, if it was an LTR and not a short/causal situation, other than one party keeping the other as a backup and the other party hoping for something more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:39 PM
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This. Plus social media/dating apps encouraging hook up culture and casual encounters is a FAR more influential factor than TRP. TRP wouldn’t even exist weren’t it for the economic decline and IG/tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:53 AM
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Not everyone, that’s why I said usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:47 AM
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Yeah exactly, comparing the baby boomer generation and early Gen X to millennials and Gen Z is completely idiotic. Back then you could buy a house and live comfortably on an average salary, now you need 2 salaries to even afford rent (buying a house on an average salary is considered a joke), let alone raising children… Also people settling with one person in your early 20s is a bad idea because you are usually out of touch with reality and what you want. Stop romanticizing being with one person…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:42 AM
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r/weirdflexbutok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:05 PM
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Not really. All sensible people realize that the whole "still friends with your ex" scenario, usually encompasses one the following dynamics: a) The man still wants the woman, she doesn't but she still hangs around for the amenities he offers (being a taxi, paying for dinners, showering her with attention/validation) b) The woman still wants the man, he keeps her around for sex but wants to have his options open.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 07:07 PM
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When concepts like accountability and people setting their boundaries are foreign to you, then it makes sense to dismiss your partner as "insecure" and having "trust issues". Also I generally distrust people who claim to still be friends with exes, good chance there's some fuckery going on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:54 PM
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So you are telling me you want to be with a man who will run or be silent if someone insults or threatens you and that you wouldn’t think less of them afterwards? If you’ve ever had to go through the “bad part of the town”, the last thing you want is to attract attention by wearing revealing or expensive clothes. This is a rule I abide by myself too btw. If I have to go through a more dangerous part of the city, I’m not gonna wear fancy clothes or an expensive watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:42 AM
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This sounds reasonable. It’s just that people pretend it’s always controlling, as if there aren’t practical reasons. You are not forced to conform to the man’s wishes and there are definitely times when men are hyperbolic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:32 AM
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Generally if your values do not align with the other person breaking up is usually the best option. However, there’s a difference between suggesting and controlling. When you go out with a woman as a man you are de facto responsible for her physical safety, something often disregarded by the female POV. If you’re out with a woman, the last thing you want is other men gawking at her, approaching her (or worse) while you go get drinks or use the WC. I think a person tasked with your physical safet…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:01 PM
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Then what do you disagree on? I said the rationalization process is slightly different but the end result is the same: both genders are more likely to tolerate shitty behavior from attractive men/women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:09 PM
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How? They’re both flawed rationalizations, the difference is women tend to romanticize reality whereas men tend to “sexualise” it, but that’s a detail. It’s been proven that attractive people have a “halo” effect generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:42 PM
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I think both cases simply indicate that people are willing to tolerate more shit from an attractive partner, the only difference being the coping mechanism. Women tend to rationalize toxic behaviours from attractive men “he’s not controlling, he’s passionate”, whereas men tend to simply put up with toxic behaviours from attractive women because “she’s a bitch but she’s hot”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:16 PM
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The real issue is with hypocrisy and denial that women engage in certain behaviours, not so much in these behaviours per se. For example, if you want a man to adhere to traditional masculinity (provider, leader, problem solver etc), you should also adhere to the standards of traditional femininity (caretaker, housekeeper etc). You can’t cherry pick attributes from trad or modern femininity according to what feels convenient. If a couple wants to “role reverse” and have the woman provide and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:54 PM
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True, as long it’s not a high stress position with too much responsibility and long hours for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:15 PM
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I wouldn’t say that casual sex causes serious mental illnesses, more like people with mental illnesses are more prone to casual sex (correlation =/= causation), but I generally agree that working moms with other interests can potentially be better parents than SAHMs. I didn’t say women are happiest at home, women are happier pursuing a career in the field they prefer over being pushed into STEM or big corporate positions. Generally, I would probably rate happiness like this: career in preferred …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:26 AM
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It would also be interesting to see the female depression and anti-depressant consumption rates over the past decade as well. Just because young women are sold a more sexually casual and career oriented lifestyle, it doesn’t mean that’s what they want. Women in their 30s increasingly seek to settle down, rather than have a casual and brief situation with fuckboy no.146. It’s true that the more attractive the woman, the longer she can afford to fuck around with fewer drawbacks, but you can’t gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:26 AM
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No matter how bad people try to pretend biology isn’t a thing, it’s totally a thing. You simply can’t just change millennia of evolutionary biology regarding women’s mating behavior within a single generation. Also everything you see on the internet is not real or applicable to the wider population. The average woman today isn’t a Tik Tok influencer, nor is she suddenly sleeping around with 100s of men… The actual issue is that Gen Z confuses Tinder with real dating and IG with real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:41 AM
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That's an oversimplistic explanation. There are below average looking women who choose to provide/beta bucks for a man of higher SMV than them in order to retain him. It doesn't happen as frequently, but it's a solid explanation as to why a woman would date down socioeconomically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 10:07 PM
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The real question is how do you cultivate a social circle at 30+. Even if you enjoy solitude or less social activities generally, having a social life to a degree is necessary for everyone. People who pretend otherwise are merely coping. A healthy relationship cannot be maintained if you have no friends and no social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:31 AM
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Yeah this make sense but OP said he can’t get over how easily women can get sex. If you realize that casual sex for women has way more pitfalls than it does for men, you stop feeling amazed. Example, I used to know this girl who’s also maybe a 6 at best and has been with 30+ dudes who constantly gets sexual attention from men. At first it felt so strange that she had so many options despite being average, but considering like 90% of these dudes are low value and just wanna shag, I realized men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:44 AM
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Exactly. Sure, women can get casual sex much more easily than a dude can, but it doesn't really mean much in the long run. When you are 30+, if all you have achieved in your romantic life is casual sex with a bunch of low value dudes, is that something to really be proud of from the female POV or be envious of from the male POV?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:31 PM
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There is a difference between not wanting a woman with many previous partners and wanting a virgin. Other than that the only “rationale” behind what you’re describing is that they want a virgin for an LTR and a woman who will put out quickly just for sex. Other than that I don’t find the standard of wanting someone for an LTR who’s had a few partners unreasonable. But expecting a virgin if you’re 24+ is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 03:18 PM
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Not really. The equivalent to a short man is a woman with a negative physical characteristic that would be a hard no for certain men but a conditional no for others. Imagine a girl who’s fine but has an ugly nose or who has asymmetrical feet or a scar/mark on her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:26 PM
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You can’t really generalize a theory based on an extremely wealthy and famous dude. Yes, if you’re an attractive millionaire rapper, you can get away with certain things (also has to do with the Ghetto culture) and young superficial and vein women will still want to date you, but that’s the exception not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 10:03 AM
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Who decides who’s “bad” and “shitty” exactly..? You can see why this reasoning is flawed and dangerous because if you justify using hate against “bad” people then you’re not very far away from fascism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:52 PM
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Body positivity is pure hypocrisy and denial. When the main demographic being championed is overweight women who are told they are “big and beautiful”, you understand it’s a movement made solely for stroking fat women’s ego. There are people who need body positivity way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:47 PM
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It’s emotionally inconsistent but perfectly consistent on a logical level. Do you think that everyone you dislike/disagree is entitled to fewer rights for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:41 PM
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This isn’t a modern day phenomenon. People always had a hard time acknowledging their own biases and changing opinions, more so in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:20 PM
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To be fair, most people can’t tell the difference between $1M/year vs $10M/year. Our brains cannot easily tell the difference between very large numbers with multiple 0s at the end. I agree that a disproportionate % of pretty women are gold diggers but if you only go for gold diggers it only makes sense every guy they’ve dated will have an expensive sports car.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 10:57 AM
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I can’t recall anyone I’ve ever met having a “harem” either. Yes there are tall, fit, affluent dudes who sleep around and occasionally have multiple partners at the same time, but these are short term arrangements usually. It’s rare that a dude will have the same side chicks who are into him and will sleep with him at will consistently for years. Most of these men are just efficient at frequently finding new “victims”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:32 PM
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Facts. Only beta cucks who are secretly gay would even consider touching other males as part of their profession, like doctors do. Real alpha chads have never even been hugged by their father cause it’s ultra gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:23 PM
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Nah alphas have 2-digit IQs and fail all their courses, intelligence and science is for beta nerds ooga booga alpha male noises
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:13 PM
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This. In modern society, a combination of lazy parenting and woke feminism, have instilled an insane amount of entitlement to young girls, unfortunately. It’s not misogynistic to acknowledge certain uncomfortable truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:15 PM
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Ok out of curiosity, if you met Mr Perfect who ticks all boxes and you were madly in love with him, do you think you would consider it or is it a hard no still (provided minimal to no pain)?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:46 PM
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Honestly, even though I prefer assuming the dominant role, I hate feeling like I’m pressuring a woman that’s why I am referring to the degree a woman is willing to experiment without pressure. So suggesting anal once or twice for instance isn’t pressure, insisting on something someone vehemently denies is. There’s no quicker way to lose a woman’s attraction if you pressure her, attraction should be earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:38 PM
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Interesting, do you have a link to such studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:32 PM
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Making fun =/= hate. People use words including the term “hate” too liberally. Are there assholes who bully you for being fat online/offline? Of course there are, but the body positivity movement isn’t going to fix that. The general consensus is that actual body shaming/bullying is bad and shouldn’t happen. No, because most of the people who ascribe to the body positivity movement are self-centered people who think their decision to eat too much KFC and be overweight is something positive and su…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 12:08 PM
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Lol don’t bother, OP is just a sore loser who thinks the world’s after her because she’s overweight, unable to realize people are simply appalled by her victim complex, not her weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:39 AM
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Lol you’re probably a terrible troll but I am going to respond as if you’re seriously that stupid. Who says I don’t criticize people who smoke, drink excessive amounts, have unprotected sex with strangers etc? The only difference is we don’t have an outbreak alcoholism or STDs in the west, and smoking is slowly declining, so these issues are far less relevant that obesity which is on the rise. Also when alcoholics, drug addicts and smokers start pretending to be victims and get their own movemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:03 AM
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No one hates fat women or fat people in general… The body positivity movement is stupid and dangerous as it is because: a) it is hypocritical since it only applies to women b) it promotes an unhealthy lifestyle in the West where obesity rates have increased in the past decade, putting a strain on most healthcare systems since obesity is strongly associated with a number of physical ailments/diseases c) it celebrates the complacency of people who are lazy but otherwise perfectly healthy and capab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:46 AM
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Mutual consent within permutations defined by gender roles and current socioeconomic conditions. If the 29yo man can’t afford a nice car and fancy apartment, it’s far easier to date a much younger woman who has lower standards than a 25yo woman who might expect 6 figures and a BMW. Also let’s not forget the fertility window. If you asked me in my early 20s my wet dream was to date an older girl who knows how to have sex, has her own car and apartment and knows what she wants. Now that I’m 30 and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:26 AM
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Exactly, becoming valuable as a man, has become increasingly difficult today. In the 80s you could buy a decent car or a house on an average salary, now it’s almost impossible. And it’s not like women’s standards have adjusted to current economic conditions. Young women are out earning young men and have even higher standards for a potential partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:14 AM
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How? Most men have to bring more things to the table when it comes to dating out of competitive necessity, not out of choice. The man who pays for the date has a competitive advantage. The man who drives a fancier car has a competitive advantage. The man who is more fun and entertaining has a competitive advantage. As a man you have to do more work generally speaking, but it has far more to with necessity than preference/choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 01:05 AM
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Do you think that people consciously dated “average people and then one day woke up and also consciously decided that “average is no longer enough”? Most people buy into the lifestyle that is sold to them. With social media evolving since the 2010s, men increasingly see supermodels in bikinis and women constantly see jacked dudes in lambos and yachts. When your brain constantly sees these images, it starts associating them with being common and by extension you start believing that this is what …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:46 AM
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Some people don't realise that even if they find the virgin they so much crave, with the availability of options that exists today, she's gonna be constantly tempted to explore. There's a thing as too many dudes and a thing as very few dudes. Also, even if you find said virgin, you're gonna have to arm yourself with patience until she learns all the pornstar tricks you enjoy in bed. Then she dumps you, takes these lessons, and applies them to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:16 AM
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Me too. I wouldn’t describe myself as a fan of Tate by any means. I think he’s funny, entertaining to watch and occasionally he has insightful things to say (usually not about women though) and I don’t think he should be wholly disregarded just because some of his views are misogynistic. That said, I am 30yo and I believe I have more life experience compared to men under the age of 25 who are his primary audience and I think I can better filter the good points from the bad points he makes. Hence…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 02:04 PM
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Actually I’ve noticed an inverse trend. In the mid 2010s where the influence of social media on the younger generations hadn’t been analyzed nearly as much as today, I think the Manosphere was far more resentful of women. That’s where MGTOWs and incels first appeared online. Nowadays this resentment has somewhat settled down and TRP is more focused on self reflection and self improvement than hating women and preaching how bad they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:04 PM
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Simping occurs in real life as well. Men in their late 20s and early-mid 30s who have been a long time with a partner and would rather succumb to her wish to marry rather than risk losing her. I've yet to meet a man at this age who is excited to marry, most do it as a "necessity" to keep the relationship going. And people wonder why divorce rate, among other reasons, is so high... I know most of these guys would struggle to replace their partner, but I can't bring myself to respect them. I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 12:20 PM
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It's not gossip, women are more agreeable on average which explains why they often sugarcoat their preferences or lie about them. Agreeable people don't want to say things that sound mean or insensitive and admiting you often reject people based solely on looks, for instance, risks sounding shallow or offensive. These tasks you describe about women in early civilisations are mostly caretaking, not provision. It was men who were tasked with most of the hard manual labour and protection of the fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:41 PM
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Because women tend to not be honest about their dating preferences a lot of the time. Also because being provided for is the female biological imperative, so I find it hard to believe women do not enjoy it when men provide for them. Also part of the reason why men work more hours and retire older on average. If women enjoyed being providers or self-reliant, they would work nearly as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:10 PM
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What OP means I suppose is that you're not gonna be 100% upfront about flaws or about your current mental state if it's negative because it would counterintuitive. You're not gonna tell your date that you spent last night masturbating alone and then cried about it, similarly to how you wouldn't tell a potential employer that you once got fired from a job for being late.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:34 PM
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I am willing to bet most gold diggers were raised in families in which they were treated like princesses and were taught they are "trophies" and should receive special treatment just because they are attractive women. It's instincual for women to seek protection and some degree of provision from men, but the degree of provision (ex. 50/50 vs 90/10) highly depends on the woman's character and upbringing. That said, I do believe most women actually like it when a man covers most of the expenses in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:23 AM
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Wealth attracts gold diggers and trophy wives. When I hear the Tates or other rich men talk about women I realise their view on women is heavily influenced from being surrounded by these kinds of women. Power couples are less frequent in my experience. Most wealthy/high status men I've met usually have trophy wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 11:09 AM
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I mean if you're a wealthy guy doesn't it make sense that 90% of women in your social circle will be gold diggers since that's the kind of women rich men attract? I'd assume Tate could understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:33 AM
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I'm also 30 and yeah highschool was different because girls back then had literally no idea of their dating options nor did they have so many options to begin with. The reason I wasn't dating much was because I was chickenshit until hitting 22, but in retrospect I had serious chances with some of the hottest girls in school. Uni was slightly harder due to more competition and the rise of social media, but you still had chances if you developed social circles from predominantly female majors (nur…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:42 PM
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I assume you are around my age. When I was in my early 20s (early-mid 2010s), dating via social media was rare and dating apps were non existent. This has changed rapidly over the past decade though, completely transforming the dating scene. So yeah, 10 years ago it was much more common to see a hottie with an average dude since IG and Tinder didn't exist and women weren't extremely picky about looks. Looksmatching was still the rule though, there just were more exceptions to this rule since we …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:21 PM
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I'm also a child of divorce. I didn't say no decent man dates single moms ever, please reread, of course there are exceptions. What I said is that being a single mom is a big burden on your dating life as a woman. I also said that it's a fallacy for a woman to pretend like she has the same bargaining power in the dating market in her 40s as a single mom, she had in her 20s. Does your mom sound like the kind of woman I am describing above? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 12:09 PM
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Because being a single mom, even with the father's financial assistance, highly impacts your social and dating life. Men may be burdened by alimony but for those who can afford it, life is smoother since moms take care of 70% of the child's daily needs. Also being a single father doesn't impact your dating life nearly as much. Also the fact many 40+ women don't realise this, makes it even worse. I've only dated an older single mom once and believe me when she started playing games I was out. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:41 PM
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Looksmatching is the general norm, which means Chads usually end up with Stacies, which is not as desirable as you may think since Stacies are high maintenance. The case you describe is probably rare, since women who are 8+/10 are difficult to manage and detrimental for LTRs, as a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 12:29 PM
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Because the example is too theoretical and unrealistic imo. Good sex is essential for an LTR to function, but there are other major components needed (trust, chemistry, love etc). Like I said I would consider an LTR in the given scenario as long as we’re not talking porn, prostitution or gang bangs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:46 PM
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What OP means to say is that he’s an authoritarian leftist who doesn’t believe in social and economic liberty at all (ie tankie communist). That’s a far cry from libertarian leftists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:29 PM
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The problem today is that private life is private no more. You don’t know to how many dudes she’s sent lewd pics/videos and whether these dudes have kept them private or shared. And they’re more likely to share if the sexual encounter was casual… Also it’s not a matter of double standards like some suggest. When considering an LTR, men tend to evaluate women on the basis of whether they can be good caretakers, whereas women tend to evaluate men on the basis of whether they can be good providers.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:11 PM
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Exactly. I don’t see how OP arrived at his conclusion… Young people have less sex due to financial issues and decreased drive in social activities . How is that good? Also less sex, doesn’t necessarily mean fewer sexual partners, especially for women. Women can sleep with a random dude monthly/bimonthly which still can be from 6-12 dudes a year. On my postgrad where I lived with Gen Z chicks that’s what they did. They used tinder to hook up with one dude a few times a month and it was never anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:38 PM
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Has anyone even read the study? It says people are having less sex in general due to financial issues (they can’t afford to rent) and social issues (decline in socialization/increase in gaming). Less sex =/= lower n-count necessarily. If a woman has sex with a random dude monthly/bimonthly that’s still less sex but 6-12 dudes per year. Also the fact men show increased interest in gaming and decrease interest in sex, is proof of lack of motivation… I don’t see how this is good on any level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:27 PM
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Social media need surveillance if you're underage, parents shouldn't allow their 14yo daughters on IG and tik tok unattended. When you're this young, naïve and inexperienced, the easy attention you can receive on social media by showing your body is mentally addictive like a drug. Then you grow up and naturally start using tinder and other dating apps. The real problem is most modern parents are lazy and would rather have their kids distracted on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:56 PM
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I don't believe in enfoced solutions. The only way to fix most societal problems is through proper education. Unfortunately, the current educational system reinforces many female behaviours which contribute to the issue, so realistically the only solution I see is that a numbers of years will pass, people will become more lonely and depressed and eventually will begin to realise how harmful online dating and vain social media are. The only thing I can suggest to parents is to keep their children…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:17 PM
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Telling a feminist that women bear responsibility in any scenario is like telling a devout Christian there is no God, they will vehemently deny it because it deconstructs their entire philosophy. Feminism depicts women constantly as victims and ignores evolutionary biology in order to present socioeconomic differences between men and women as "discrimination", despite there being plenty of evidence suggesting it's due to different life choices. You start telling them many women are not angels an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:38 AM
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True. Today women are told they can do whatever they like and men have to adapt to their desires. Which of course is not going to happen... Men also have standards, especially for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:02 AM
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If you cannot attract a partner of your liking, then you need to improve regardless of gender. Telling a chubby chick who wants a 7/10 man minimum she "needs to wait for the right guy to come along" instead of telling her to lose weight is bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:59 PM
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The difference is as a man you hear self-improvement advice like "go to the gym bro", "get a better job bro", "find a hobby bro". Whenever you've complained about women, you are told YOU need to change When a woman can't find a dude, she rarely hears she needs to change but instead is told things like "ooh you just need to wait until you find someone who will appreciate you for who tou are" or "men are trash, they can't tell your worth". It's as if women need to be inherently loved whereas men n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 01:07 PM
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What kind of study would constitute valid scientific evidence on subconscious psychological mechanisms related to love and sexual selection? If anyone is aware of such studies please share. That said, you can have amazing sex with someone who you're incompatible with in a relationship and you can be in a loving relationship with average sex. I've experienced both scenarios. Usually people who are very sexually open, have had multiple partners they practiced with in the past and this can be a tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:55 PM
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Men compete for women and women filter out men. Like you said, a woman who has a string of failed relationships, has a poor filter. A man who can't find woman is usually not competitive enough (looks, money, game). Generally, this is why women don't want maidenless men while men don't want girls with high bodycounts. It's an indication that they've failed at their biological imperative. No one likes to admit this of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:59 PM
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I am 30 and always dated women around my age, even a few who were older. My current girlfriend is 24, the biggest age difference I've ever dated down. I suppose most women around my age are looking to settle down and start a family, something which won't interest me for years, as I am focusing on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 03:51 PM
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There's a slight detail you're missing though. Some people (mainly women but also men) struggle with dating because they are not satisfied by their options. Also some people (mostly men) have zero game, so unless they're a solid 8/10, they won't have an easy time attracting a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:15 AM
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I had many friends when I was 19-21 and no GF and I was happy. Sure I missed the relationship part, but if I had no friends I would be depressed. Then I was in an LTR from 21-26 which I believe contributed to me not developing new friendships as the old ones waned. You're much better off investing in friendships in your 20s than in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:10 AM
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The fact a man's life is super competitive and no one prepares you for it, especially when raised by complacent and oblivious parents who do nothing in your teens and early 20s to guide you in the right direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 09:03 AM
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Depends on how n count is. If it is moderately high, you are still sexually attracted to her, but you wouldn't consider her as a potential partner. If her n count is very high, then yeah you begin to lose physical attraction as well. I've only met a girl with an n count of 50+ men (that I know of) once. She was so blunt and open about how she had fucked half a football team and how she was dating 4 guys at the same time, that I was physically disgusted. Even though at the time I hadn't had sex i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:12 PM
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People tend to date a looksmatch. "Mismatching" does occur often but I would argue most of these relationships are imbalanced since the less attractive partner has to provide something extra in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:00 PM
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Deal breaker? No. I've never had anal with most of my GFs because it requires preparation, patience and comfortable surroundings, most of which are not usually available. For starters, if a woman has never tried it, you have to start with fingering, then when she gets used to it proceed with a small toy and then you can try putting your dick in. It takes a while for the receiver to get used to it if you want to minimise pain but it can be enjoyable for both.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:39 PM
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I agree with a lot of the red pill stuff but my god this concept that women start becoming obsolete after the age of 25 in 2022 is ridiculous... A 30+ year old woman today isn't the same as a 30+ year old woman in the 50s. People have a longer life span and a longer fertility window as a consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:15 AM
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Feminism does idolise single motherhood and it is a quite popular movement in today's society. Feminism also berates fatherhood and men in general. I don't know if single moms are the root of all evil like OP claims, but many kids from single/divorced households end up problematic, according to studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:03 PM
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Andrew Tate can be insightful or entertaining if you're 25+ years old. He is by no means a role model for teenagers and very young adults, who have little to no life experience, cannot properly filter information, and tend to mimic behaviours from others. I don't know to what extent he believes what he says and to what extent he puts up an online personna to attract attention and promote his business, however people need to realise he's another internet sensation and shouldn't be taken 100% seri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:47 AM
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Any factual evidence for this claim? If culture doesn't matter then you'd assume that Muslim girls in Saudi Arabia would be having the same amount of casual sex as girls in Miami or LA... In most authoritarian societies, you'll find that only wealthy/powerful men have access to multiple partners/casual sex. In liberal democracies, yes looks combined with certain personality traits determine your ability to acquire casual sex, since women are free to choose. However, this isn't the case for all s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:13 AM
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This used to happen in the pre-social media era. Now with IG, Tik Tok and Tinder where women can get tons of validation effortlessly, they don't need to bang a dude for an ego boost. Uploading a booty pic on IG has the same effect, with far less risk/effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:45 PM
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I was also raised by liberal parents and would generally say that I am closer to the left politically (social-democracy), however I am fairly anti-PC/ anti-modern feminism and often watch conservative speakers (ex. Jordan Peterson) and TRP because I feel like many of their arguments resonate with me. I am in favour of equity between men and women, however I'm against a society that tries to enforce equality of outcome, like gender quotas. I find it hypocritical to say we need more female CEOs bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:59 AM
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In order to infer causation, you'd have to perform a diffrences-in-differences experimental study, which takes years to complete and is quite expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:43 AM
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Any environment where one gender is predominant turns into a circlejerk because certain characteristics are amplified. When I served in the military, it was 95% dudes and 5% women and when you put so many men in their 20s together, it was a cesspool of degeneracy. Too many dudes together act animalistic, too many women together act gossipy/bsckstabby. I don't see how you extrapolate that because of this amplification effect, LTRs do not work, there's no connection...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:33 PM
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Everyone with a full-time job can attest to the fact they can barely travel 2-3 times a year. People who travel A LOT are rich and most girls in their 20s do not have the funds and/or time to travel around the world without a rich daddy/sugar daddy, unless they do onlyfans or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:41 PM
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OP means to tell me that self-reported studies on sexual partners are somehow accurate given men's motives to overreport and women's motives to underreport. Asking someone how many sexual partners they've had is so generic. Most women I've discussed this with do not count oral sex for instance. So if a woman has had sex with let's day 10 men but has given blowjobs to another 7 men, is it really accurate to say she's only had 10 sexual partners? On the other hand men in my experience tend to coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:36 PM
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I don't care as long as they're not an sntivaxxer nutcase. Personally I am fully vaccinated and caught COVID twice. The first time I had a positive PCR test and very mild symptoms while the second all of my tests were negative and I only had a very slightly stuffed nose for a day and a half, so I am not really afraid of the virus. My only concern is about transmitting it to elders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:23 AM
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For most LTRs looks is the determining factor. Fewer men can hold on to a better looking woman because they have money, charisma or social standing. If you're rich you can afford 3 10/10s at the same time so it's not a good example, I'm talking about the everyday man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:20 PM
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Almost anything above an 8 is too high maintenance for the vast majority of men in terms of an LTR. Ideally you want a gf that's between 7-8. After that you're gonna have to spend too much money and energy because she'll constantly get hit on by men and you'll have to spend too much money to retain her. I would argue that you should go for a looksmatch because that's the most balanced relationship, statistically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 12:00 PM
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Honestly, the real problem is women are relentlessly unforgiving today and won't bother giving most men a chance which most of the time means they also miss out because they go for fuckboy no.247 instead of a decent dude who won't immediately stand out. Gen Z' attention span is so short, they can't focus on a conversation that doesn't have continuous flow. It's funny because so many women complain about men bring rude, having attachment issues etc and don't realize it's because of their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:03 PM
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Good for you. It takes effort to change and improve, going against your "default" behaviour. Most people would rather complain and do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:41 PM
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Behaviour is not something you simply "learn". It's hardcoded in your DNA and heavily influenced by childhood experiences and major life events (i.e. things out of your control). Reacting in a specific way is not something you read out of a textbook and simply change. If you are neurotic and lack self-esteem you are going to organically react in a risk avoidant manner every time you face adversity/threat. If you are assertive, you are organically inclinded to be more ridk seeking. I am not sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:59 AM
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This makes no sense, women can't "smell misogyny", it's just an excuse dome of them came up with for rejecting men they find unattractive and shifting blame towards them, instead of just admitting the truth. Everyone is entitled to their standards and if you think women's standards are unrealistic that's a different topic, however claiming that men who are unsuccessful in dating get rejected due to misogyny is horseshit given how many women end up in emotionally/physically abusive relationships.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:21 PM
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I was watching a show from the mid 2000s the other day about a group of friends and one of the characters is the nerdy hacker guy who at some point meets a girl online and everyone in his friend group finds it weird and keeps telling him things like "you got to meet a girl in real life man", "the internet is not for dating", "you can't form a real relationship online" etc etc. Just consider how outlandish on-line dating was considered 15 years ago compared to now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:43 AM
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Mostly insecure women who'd rather play it safe by setting for somebody below their preferred standards, rather than risk dating someone who meets these criteria but also has dating options. Especially, if the average/below average man can sort of make up through beta bucks. However, this doesn't mean women don't want to date attractive men long term. This misconception probably arose from men who see that women who get pumped and dumped settle for less attractive men in an LTR and assume all wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:31 PM
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Attractive people are treated more favourably. Women are more likely to justify and tolerate bad behaviours/attitudes by attractive men and so do men for attractive women. I think most blue pillers are attractive men who get girls effortlessly without awareness of how dating works or average/unattractive men who believe in comforting lies than harsh truths. Red pillers are usually men who have had to undergo some degree os self improvement to get noticed by women or went from being unattractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:31 PM
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I've only dated a single mom once for a few months who was 10 years my senior. Imagine paying alimony so your ex wife can buy her lover sushi when she drops off the kids at your place. But in all seriousness, single parenthood is bad for the kids and shouldn't be encouraged because "you go gurl, you can do it on your own!". I'm not saying you should stay with someone who is abusive or thoroughly incompatible (albeit wby you had kids with thst person in the first place), but once you start a fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:21 AM
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OP probably thinks it's gay to masturbate too since you're basically jacking a dude off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 09:08 PM
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I mean what it really shows is the existence of "pretty privilege", something we already know. Certain characteristics are judged more favourably when exhibited by attractive individuals rather than average or, even less so, by unattractive individuals. Barney is an "adorable asshole" because he is attractive, if he wasn't he would simply be an asshole. Being pretty creates a halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 11:21 PM
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True but there are differences in dating among various Western cultures and different generations. The "looks hypergamy" phenomenon is most prominent in the US, according to Americans, and the UK (I can attest because I spent one year there as a post-grad student). I was baffled by how superficial girls were and I understood why when I realized how much time they spend on Tinder. In my home country, dating apps became more popular only during the pandemic and I noticed hyperinflation of looks (i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:47 AM
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Self improvement and increasing your value are totally valid pursuits for any man, not everyone can enter the top 20% though no matter the effort. You keep hearing this from red pill coaches "Oh just wake up at 5am, go to the gym, work 3 jobs and keep hustling bro". Firstly, most of them have money from their parents so this whole "sigma male grindset" they're selling is marketing BS. Secondly, you shouldn't need to be a top hustler in order to attract an average girl. Generally, my advice would…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:10 PM
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The "porn is damaging your brain" trope is half the truth. If you have healthy social relationships watching porn once in a while is fine. It's the fact women are objectifying themselves on the internet that's the real issue. If 90% of the time you see women is in a sexual context, then your brain stsrts treating them as sex objects rather than humans. For me porn was simply porn always, I could distinguish it from reality. It becomes a problem when you see girls you know IRL having overly sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:18 PM
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It's not on an individual level either tbh. People claiming being forever single is a "lifestyle choice" are merely coping. Humans are social beings, being single/lonely for too long starts messing up your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:07 PM
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In addition to what you said, any wise man knows there is a cutt-off point for looks in an LTR. After this point, an LTR becomes too risky and the benefits are minimal (if any). The more the perceived attractiveness of a woman increases, the relationship becomes exponentially high maintenance from both a financial and emotional standpoint. In other words, I'd much rather date a 6 with a decent personality and integrity than an 8 with 200 IG posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 10:27 AM
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I have no idea. I think the problem in the West also lies in the erosion of moral values and the normalisation of disrespecting and blaming men for everything. Of course this is tied to to the seemingly increasing obsolescence of men due to technology, but generally speaking it's hard to take power away from someone once it's given to them. Personally, I think parents should be more strict with allowing their kids on social media but sooner or later the damage will be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:57 PM
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There is a functional problem. Hypergamy is exacerbated by social media and the internet (because women have access to more options than before) and increasingly want more for less. This has made the dating market very competitive and the prospect of an LTR very unlikely/unattractive due to risk. The only people I know that are in LTRs have been from a young age which means the emotional cost of breaking up is very high for both sides and also the woman has had far less exposure to social media/…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:45 PM
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You won't get a concise/sencire asnwer. Women, like us, sometimes want to simply hook up. If they know the man they're gonna hook up with is not am LTR option and want nothing more from him, they'll just do it. If the man is an LTR option they might withhold sex in order to see if he just wants sex or not and how long he is willing to persist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:35 PM
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This is mostly true, but to a certain extent we also pretend today like being husband material is a bad thing because of women who used to fuck around in their 20s wanting to settle down with a man like this in their 30s. If a man is high value and not looking for hook ups, why shouldn't he be labelled "husband material"? This doesn't necessarily imply he's going to br the victim of a reformed slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:53 AM
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In what part of the world are trans people prioritized exactly lol? What i mean is that we are biologically programmed as men to expose ourselves to danger in order to protect women because it is beneficial for the reproduction of our species. Our primal insticts do not account for overpopulation, we are programmed by default for survival mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:23 PM
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The fact someone would do that for my gf or sister or your gf or sister is irrelevant to mine or your feelings. It only proves women have some inherent value that men lack, that's what we are saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:18 PM
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Yeah because they know the higher standards women have, the fewer men (like them) can satisfy them, reducing competition. I honestly don't know what a normal dude is supposed to do anymore with property prices rising wildly unproportionately to wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:22 PM
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Lol the number of people who believe the Disney notion of "everyone has inherent value".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:59 PM
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In theory, yes. The "factory settings" of our brains haven't changed though in only a few thousand years of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:49 PM
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The funny thing is very few men and even fewer women comprehend this. How many men here have been offered a free drink, a ride home or any other product/service for free? How many men cried and blamed someone else when their boss told them off at work? How many men ACTUALLY have the choice of more than one woman (if at all)? The only men who approach or surpass women in terms of inherent value are elite men (very rich, handsome or gifted). This is why feminism as an ideology (for the most part) …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:33 PM
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You can argue that. However, what society views as high value isn't constant and today there's more tolerance toward cheating and sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:48 AM
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I haven't read a more concise and honest description of women though lol. They do in fact get away with a lot of shit they shouldn't just because we are horny mfs who are willing to put up with it just to get our dicks wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:56 PM
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Honestly, men are less likely to end a serious relationship than women. If a woman has been dumped a lot, it's a red flag that there's hidden baggage..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:58 PM
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It may be just me, but I literally don't know a single "high value man" that got snatched early. Most attractive+financially stable men I know that have been in LTRs from their early 20s and end up marrying later on, have cheated on their spouses like 100 times and/or have like 2 side chicks. I also know dudes who might be decent looking and in an LTR for years but I wouldn't call them "high value" because they have crappy dead end jobs. Why their GFs are still with them? Well, I suppose if you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:53 PM
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I see what you mean, but I think offering people a likert scale is more reliable. If women were asked to simply evaluate a man on a binary scale (attractive vs non attractive) I believe you would introduce a higher bias into the study since some women may feel bad rating someone as "non attractive", whereas many others would simply evaluate like 90% of men as "non attractive" as well. If I had to take a guess, for most women "non attractive" means anything below a solid 7/10. They are simply har…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:43 PM
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Of course, it's just that you can't publicly complain about everything in your life and blame it on someone else without taking any accountability and without acknowledging your own privileges. Strategically, it is a bad move which means most don't even realise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:25 AM
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That would only make sense if the population follows an even distribution. It's like saying at a test with possible scores of 0-100 that the mean would be 50 because it's exactly in the middle whereas it can easily be 60 or higher... And even if looks followed a normal distribution, very few people would be close to 0 or 10. Also most studies of women rating men show a positive skew in the answers (i.e. rhe vast majority of men are rated below 6), whereas most studies of men rating women follow …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:36 PM
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Most are literally incapable of understanding the double standard. Blame it on how they were raised to be self-centred and narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:04 PM
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I was with my ex for almost 5 years and we had sex basically on the second date (we knew each other for years but still). On the other hand I get frustrated when a woman purposely delays sex thinking I am gonna take her more seriously (spoiler alert: I won't, especially when I sense she's had a ton of hookups before snd know is trying to play "decent"). For me when a woman delays sex it usually means she has nothing much to offer in a relationship other than her self-perceived sexual integrity. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:02 AM
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Agreed but it's not the decisions that most sensible men "shame" women for. It's the lack of accountability for said decisions on their behalf. If you wanna make questionable decisions and own the consequences of these decisions, I don't mind. However, if you're gonna be a crybaby and blame men for them, then yeah I'm going to "shame" you for being an irresponsible idiot. Similarly, if a man spends his entire 20s and early 30s fucking around and then suddenly starts blaming women for not wanting…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 09:22 AM
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Only the second part almost never happens because once you get married as a man, you have far more responsibilities (especially if you decide to have kids) so taking a salary cut makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 04:50 AM
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What most young women (and even many older ones) fail to realise though is that when your only selling point is your sex appeal, you will inevitably be viewed as a "sex object". This has nothing to do with supposed sexism and discrimination, it's a simple fact. If all I see on IG is photos of your ass in a bikini, I am gonna have a hard time focusing on your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 01:25 PM
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While each country has its own issues depending on dating culture, level of female freedom etc, Social Media are the biggest culprit by far in all developed countries. I am 29 and I almost remember how women acted before Facebook became a thing. They were far more approachable, down to earth and less vain, narcissistic and easily distracted. Now all you need to do, is go on Instagram and your news feed is bombarded with muscular roid freaks and thicc thots. Back then you had to compete with fewe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:35 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same women who support transgender athletes competing in women's sports. It's like they have no idea about the differences between the male and female musculoskeletal systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 01:38 PM
1

Many people still have this white or black mentality in everything. People aren't segregated into physically attractive, charismatic and successful Alphas or physically unappealing, inept and failed betas, there is a wide range. It's just that the two extremes usually attract the most attention because they seem so antithetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 10:24 PM
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Younger women's standards have been skewed by the rise of social media and online dating. Before them, "natural" face-to-face flirting was much more frequent and other factors like personality and charisma factored in. Now all a female Zoomer has to do is swipe her finger across a smartphone screen and she gets tons of matches, of course she will go for tall, buff Chads. This "unnatural" phenomenon has driven standards through the roof, nature never intended intersexual selection to be this way,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:45 PM
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While I agree with the original comment, most (single) mothers don't do it on purpose. Women don't plan these sinister Machiavellian plots to keep men subservient, they just do what they have been conditioned to do. I would say each single motherhood is a tragedy waiting to happen (for unlucky boys) either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:17 PM
1

For me n-count isn't a dealbreaker per se. It just so happens that women with high n-counts usually have other red flags that put me off (extreme appearance, poor habits like alcohol/nicotine/drug abuse, obnoxious/unstable behaviors, unresolved daddy issues etc). Ofc this doesn't mean that these elements apply to all women with high n-counts but in my experience they are good indicators. Consequently, it has never ocurred for me to date a girl with whom I click and see as a potential LTR and all…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:11 PM
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I generally agree. Just to clarify, It's not like there's a conspiracy of capitalists actively trying to subdue anti-marriage movements like MGTOW, it's just that the idea of men not marrying and having a wife and kids to provide for has been so deeply engraved into the collective subconscious that any man diverging from the norm is seen an "outcast". To a certain extent I can understand it. Men are more productive, happy, and resourceful when they have the ability to provide. However, with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 11:17 PM
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True, there is only one major difference. As technology has evolved, people have become more reclusive and selective. Back in the 80s and 90s there was no Internet and no social media. People used to live in the "real world" a lot more than they do now. Now they just build a digital world of ignorance around them and pretend they are happy. Today, flirting has moved online and that is to the detriment of men. I have seen this hundreds of times. If you have daily exposure to a girl you like (scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:01 PM
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I think the cutoff point is really subjective. If I were to grade someone a 7, someone else might grade them a 6, whereas an 8 or a 9 would hardly be disputed similarly to a 3 or a 4. Generally speaking, I think 6 is the minimum for hook-ups and 6.5-7 for relationships. The "lowest" I've gone for in terms of looks (hook up) is like 5.5 I guess, depending on who you ask. On her good days she could reach 6 on her bad days she'd go down to 5. Apart from sheer looks, I think attitude and style also …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 11:30 PM
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I get what you mean but realistically I doubt this will ever happen. Making the first move involves the risk of getting rejected which is emotionally costly. So, since men are the ones who actively seek out women's attention, why would women take the unnecessary risk of making the first move? Personally, I think we should stop trying to "reverse" gender roles. We just need to accept that men and women behave in specific patterns in general and that's that. I am not saying toxic behaviours are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 09:25 AM
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I don't tend to segregate people into "low" and "high" value, but let me give you another example, not exclusively related to sex. Let's examine two of my friends. One is average looking at best, doesn't have a degree, is still a virgin in his late 20s, and doesn't really do much in his life. He only got a job at supermarket this year. The other is pretty handsome, eloquent, has slept with multiple women, also in his late 20s, and has a pretty decent job in a big company. Would you even consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 08:11 PM
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Pretending there aren’t is either hypocritical or oblivious. It would imply that all the people have the same sexual desirability. Since this is clearly not the case then there’s clearly a remarkable distinction between those who are highly desirable and those who are mot. I kinda agree that this viewpoint runs the risk of trapping you into a rigid mindset wherein you either perceive yourself as undesirable and give up or as desirable and think that’s all you need in life but there’s validity in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:53 PM
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While I agree with the first paragraph, it doesn’t mean men are bloodthirsty mongers who want to rape and pillage... A fundamental part which made men in the past behave like this was the dehumanisation process of continuous warfare. When you’ve spent enough time in a trench or in the mountains under vile conditions, you see your friends die in battle and you starve,how can you not dehumanise your enemy? I don’t remember the exact quote, but if you kill your enemies who are human what does that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 04:42 PM
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Why on earth would you want to ban casual sex unless you are a religious fundamentalist? It’s different to warn that too much casual/reckless sex might be a symptom of poor mental health or that a person who engages in too much casual sex might be unfit for an LTR and different to mandate an authoritative ban.. Society mainly changes through education not prohibition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 03:24 PM
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Are we talking about actual issues or issues they have convinced themselves they face or that they do face but are minor? In any case, women are at higher risk of certain violent crimes (especially related to sex), sexual objectification, face barriers to their career prospects if they decide to have children, and also have certain biological restrictions (ex. physical strength, periods).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:20 PM
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First of all, that's a different topic. In your initial comment you said that women withhold sex until they feel comfort (you completely disregarded the actual purpose of withholding sex) and I elaborated. Secondly, if you want to examine the ethical dimension behind men's and women's dating strategies, I don't recall supporting men who lie in order to have sex. My opinion is that your imperatives are your imperatives, but if you use deception in order to achieve them, you are a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:27 AM
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Personally, like 90% of women I've slept with, I've known them for months, if not years before we eventually had sex (it's usually acquaintances not random girls I met a few nights ago at a club). Will men, on average, occasionally settle with having sex with a girl below their standards? Yes, but that's hardly the rule for most. The difference is men cannot use the same tactic of leverage with relationships. Sure, some guys will lie and pretend they want you long term in order to get sex, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 09:24 PM
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Lol I don't think that's usually the issue. If it's a high value male she is extremely attracted to, she is far more likely to sleep with him in the first few dates. In any other case, women make men "work for it" by delaying physical intimacy until they feel they are getting enough in return. For a woman who applies about the same standards for all men, I can understand. But if she's sleeping very quickly with some men while making others work for it, I am not buying this narrative. In general,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 01:30 AM
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The problem is that a large portion of Millennials and Gen Z have been brought up by single mothers or families in which fathers were passive and mothers were more dominant. Consequently, the values instilled in many boys who belong to these generations are predominantly feminine (be kind, be considerate, be cautious etc). Now, I am not saying that men can’t or shouldn’t be kind, considerate and cautious. The problem is if no predominantly masculine values are also instilled in them, the predomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 02:13 AM
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The problem here is that society does not expect women to assume individual responsibility to the same extent as men are. If you are a man, most bad things that happen to you are because of your choices. If you are a woman, most bad things that happen to you are because of other people’s choices (namely men). This mentality is also advocated by feminism who essentially reinforces the female victim culture. That’s why you see many women blatantly sexualising themselves on social media (especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:34 AM
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Because society in general tolerates misandry more than misogyny today. Any criticism aimed towards a specific woman is branded misogyny and disregarded regardless of its actual validity, yet any clearly misandric comment aimed towards men in general gets a pass. Men are seen as the powerful, therefore criticising them is seen as less problematic. Women are seen as less powerful, so criticising them is seen as "hate".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:05 PM
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Birth rates have been declining since the 60s in the western world. Relatively recently, I wrote an essay on the topic for one of the courses in my master's and from my research I concluded that it's mostly due to lifestyle preferences and culture. As women joined the workforce, there is limited time and reduced incentive for people to have more than 1-2 kids. With economic conditions improving in a country, people tend to make a quality over quantity trade-off when it comes to raising children.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:31 PM
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We live in a gynocentric era; we prioritize women’s issues and disregard men’s. So yeah, i don’t see that changing anytime soon either. This will lead more men to become bitter and red-pilled and will potentially drive birth rates even further down in the West. And even if it doesn’t, men will be even more disadvantaged in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:50 PM
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The modern debate on gender equality is leading absolutely nowhere. Men and women are naturally unequal. They are biologically designed to fulfil different purposes (men for manual labour/protection and women for housekeeping/childcare). This is why the family model before modern technology consisted of working husbands and SAHMs, not because men liked to oppress women (muhahaha), but simply because NO OTHER MODEL WAS VIABLE. Women couldn't work as efficiently as men could (since all jobs were m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 12:41 PM
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Exactly, that's why in Greek we have separate words for the two: Eros (infatuation, romantic "love") and Agapi (the all-encompassing term for love). Infatuation is barely a biochemical reaction which eventually fades away, however love can be "ever-lasting".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 12:06 PM
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Correlation =/= causation. Female promiscuity does not necessarily cause cheating but there is certainly a correlation. If you ask me, I think it's because both promiscuity AND cheating are caused by similar psychological issues and low sexual ethic. While there is a minority that has a high sex drive, most cheat out of insecurity and need for validation. Pretty much the same reason why they sleep around with many partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 08:09 PM
1

Lol everyone's talking about the gender wage gap, but no one talks about the gender tax burden gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 03:37 AM
1

Hardcore libertarians are retards. You have to be an idiot to believe that deregulation and no welfare state lead to economic prosperity, when in reality they would lead to corporate dictatorships. You can't be free when you are a wage slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:12 AM
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Chads go for ass because it does not lead to reproduction. They leave pussy to betas who are stupid enough to get women pregnant and pay for child support lul.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:42 AM
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As much as certain people like to pretend they can, humans cannot go against their basic needs/drives. A man can't just "give up" his attraction to women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:38 AM
1

Perfect Aryan Christian couple. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:36 AM
1

Not really. Many women spend too much time on make up, clothes, accessories etc when in reality the only time they need to spend is in the gym to lose some weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:34 AM
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All my life I've been hearing the stereotype about female friendship being fake but let me tell you, men are not much better either. Yes, many women are self-centered and talk shit behind each other's backs, but men can also claim to be bros for life and shit and then write you off when you need them. Being friends with someone in your early 20s when life is easy and you have all the free time in the world doesn't mean much. It's not until your late 20s when people start having a few other respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:25 AM
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Almost all men go through incel phases. Bad luck, moved to a new town/country, periods of low self-esteem etc are all game killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:58 AM
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The hidden economy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:34 AM
1

More important than water
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 06:31 AM
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Pretty much, I keep being asked the same thing on here: “But how do you know how many guys she’s slept with?”. Obviously we cannot know the exact number, but do we need to when there are a million red flags flying around? This behaviour may go unnoticed to an oblivious bluepiller, but to anyone else it definitely raises some concern. PS: That’s the average girl in the UK I am describing btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:59 AM
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Her problems? I am just explaining to you the potential reasons why a woman might be unmarried past 25, other than being a slut. I am not saying men shouldn’t be picky when marrying but you’d have to be a moron to disqualify a good LTR candidate because she doesn’t tick your arbitrary age box.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:47 AM
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It's quite possible that she was in an LTR for many years but they eventually broke up. There are people who do not view marriage as the goal of their lives. In fact if all a woman wants is to get married, it makes me sceptical of her because it means she has nothing else to offer. We can't shit on women on this sub saying they are entitled gold diggers when they want to get married but when they don't, shit on them saying they're "sluts".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:29 AM
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How can you marry someone if you don't know much about their past life? If your wife has spent an entire decade of her life partying, drugging and hooking up, then it's kinda hard to leave it out when talking about her past. And if you have 2 brain cells left, you can probably figure out she's lying or purposely concealing information about her, if she's reluctant to talk about it. These lifestyles are kinda hard to conceal. That's why you never marry anyone too soon in the relationship. And if …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:18 AM
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There are many women who are not interested in marriage by the age of 25 (and I don't mean that they hop from one dick to another non-stop) or they have not found someone worthwhile marrying. While I absolutely agree with all the other attributes you mentioned, I don't think age alone is a good predictive variable. You can find high value women above the age of 25 who might be worth it in an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:03 AM
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There is no should or shouldn't, dating is modelled based on game theory. You go after the best possible candidate, given the choices of other people as well. If you are fat and ugly but can score a good looking dude, good for you. However, if you can't get any because you expect Prince Charming and you look like Fiona from Shrek, then you might have to lower your standards or up your value. The issue is that women are unwilling to face the consequences of their actions. If you spent your 20s pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:51 AM
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Imagine meeting the perfect marriage candidate but she's 26. Damn she ticks all the boxes but nope, can't marry her! I mean yes, men are generally more picky when it comes to marriage, but all the types you mentioned can find marriage partners just fine. The problem today is women have become "low effort". Because they get everything their way without much trouble, they have generally become lazy, unmotivated and demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:44 AM
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Lol I went out with a chick a few months ago. During our date, she randomly bumped into (at the bar, in the street etc.) at least 3 dudes who were "friends" but there was obviously too much intimacy going on, she kept getting notifications from Tinder all night long, and her apartment was messier than a WW2 battlefield. The funny thing is tried to play the "I don't sleep with guys on the first date" on me as well. Many women today don't even bother covering the red flags anymore. No need to say,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:36 AM
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Of course they are. Being in a LTR involves significant effort, commitment and risk. With social norms becoming more and more relaxed in the subject of female accountability, many women have become poor LTR candidates. And I say accountability because the issue isn't promiscuity per se. The issue isn't that women have become more sexually liberated (which is good), the issue is that women from younger generations are raised with the philosophy that they can engage in any risky/morally ambiguous/…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:50 PM
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That’s what every female influencer/streamer/whatever is doing online. I don’t think most of them purposely “exploit the loneliness of young men”, but they realise they are magnets of horny, young men, so they capitalise on the opportunity to make some $$.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:29 PM
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Solipsism, essentially, is an extreme form of narcissism where you only perceive your own needs, desires, thoughts, fears, emotions and ultimately existence as real or important. The Oxford dictionary also defines solipsism as the quality of being self-centered/selfish, so seems relevant enough to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:54 AM
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Saudi Arabia isn’t even the worst example because it’s a very wealthy developed country. In economic terms, the average Saudi, is probably better off than the average European or American. But you can’t really compare because as a foreigner you wouldn’t be treated the same as a local. Especially if you are a non-Muslim, you probably wouldn’t even be able to get married if you didn’t convert to Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:35 AM
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Most people aren't prizes anyway. Even if you score higher than average on certain aspects (looks, intelligence etc) you will probably score lower than average on others. For instance, I have a roommate who is a cool, good looking dude and a PhD candidate, but he can't do any housework for shit. Very few people would classify as "prizes" and no, a successful good looking woman/man who has the attitude of a god, is not a prize. In order to be a prize, you need to have a degree of humility and emp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 10:38 PM
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If. You. Don’t. Want. It. Then. Don’t. Have. It. Problem. Solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:50 AM
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Being “used for sex” can produce utility for the woman as well. You know sex is enjoyable to women too right? Not just for men. Being used for money produces absolutely no utility for a man, not to mention that money is a finite resource unlike sex,so the analogy is invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:41 AM
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True but the income gap between men and women can mainly be attributed to the different lifestyle choices and preferences of each. I am just saying that women are generally hypergamous, so it’s not that they make less because they are discriminated against, but because they can marry up, making the prospect of seeking a better paying job (with higher risks and more responsibilities) less attractive and unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:46 PM
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And after this post, the number of horny lonely guys was reduced to 0. Good job OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 10:55 PM
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Personally, I think she can do as she likes, that's not my concern. My concern is that you cannot engage in casual sex with numerous men and then claim all men are shit and expect to be treated like a princess (something that I keep encountering from women who sleep around). Just because you have the freedom to make your own decisions that does not relinquish you from the consequences/responsibilities of these decisions. If you are aware of these consequences and you don't blame others, then tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 06:21 PM
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Yeah but what prevents a man to be able to do both in women's case?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:43 PM
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Lol dude I realised that with my ex (who I generally consider a decent human being). When we both graduated college, I had to do my military service (which is compulsory and unpaid in my country) and she got a job. From the moment she started making money while I didn't, her attitude slowly changed and she would often be scornful and straight up disrespectful at times. That's why the whole movement to bridge the "wage gap" is utter nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 10:27 PM
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That's a naive comparison: When I was X I could't do Y, but now that i am Z I can do Y, therefore Z affects Y. There are many factors that affect your success with women. For instance, when you were "successful", you may not even had the time or energy to socialise with as many women because you had other issues going on. Something similar is true for me: When I was in my early 20s, I was happier and more motivated, but way less successful with women than I am now, but it would be naive to assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 03:03 PM
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It's funny because even if you actually manage to be in a relationship with a woman who earns more, it's unlikely she will truly respect you. Most women don't want to have the upper hand, they want you to have the upper hand and making more money than them is one critical way to achieve this. That's why many women will challenge you and shit test you when they feel you are not in control in the relationship. The same same applies when they make more money than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:49 PM
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Citation needed. You are acting like the responsibilities traditionally assigned to men supersede or are more necessary than the responsibilities assigned to women. Men deciding to fight other men is not more important to our species’ survival than raising children and procuring food, which women did the majority of in hunter-gatherer times and arguably in agrarian times as well. Do you need a citation to verify that it was men who fought in wars or performed very hard manual tasks for several h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:16 AM
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It’s so much more that just about receiving a paycheck and a pat in the back at the end of each month... Men always had more responsibilities than women historically, because the survival of a group/tribe/country depended on men protecting it (women in the past couldn’t do the same jobs as men did, let alone fight in wars). The “rights” that men had in pre-20th century societies, were earned through their military service, employment status etc. Today, we may live in relatively peaceful times, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:25 AM
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I honestly don’t get why so many people have a hard time realizing this simple fact. Basically modern society increasingly expects men to provide without getting anything in return. This is not a viable model and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Men are not entitled to women, yet a man who cannot have sex and intimacy (it’s not only about sex), will not be motivated and productive. Many men are choosing loneliness and self-isolation because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:32 PM
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First of all, you flatter yourself. Unless you’re a solid 8 or 9, different men have different tastes. Not all of them will want to fuck you... Secondly, so what? Unless you are being harassed, why even bother wasting energy and stressing about what other people want or think? We all have desires and urges, if I judged everyone on the basis of their desires, there would be no one on earth worthy of respect... Thirdly, most women want men for provision (either financial, emotional or both). How’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:42 PM
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No, desiring someone sexually does not mean they are uninteresting/unfunny, if anything an attractive personality makes you more desirable. I am sure there are dudes who don't really care about a girl's personality and pretend to be friends just to sleep with her, but for me at least (and I believe for most men), I can value friendship with a woman, but if I find her sexually attractive I will still want to sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 11:03 PM
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It's only difficult if your sex drives are significantly different. If I want sex minimum 5 times/week and she wants max. 3 times/week, then yes it's an issue. I am not going to even mention if she starts being manipulative (ex. If I want sex, I have to start doing her favours). Naturally I get the urge to have sex with other women, but if I am in a committed LTR, I love my partner and withholding sex is not an issue, I am fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 11:54 PM
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Lesbians and bi women have experienced the shit women pull first hand like us 😂. No wonder they hang around in a semi redpill thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:44 AM
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Yes, many men suffer from this cognitive dissonance issue, it’s called the Madonna-whore complex. What more reasonable men mean is that what you do (whether you sleep around or commit) is your choice, however this doesn’t mean that men’s behaviour won’t change according to yours (it’s game theory). In other words, you can’t have numerous casual encounters and then when you feel like it, to expect Prince Charming to show up just for you. Especially, if you hang out near the same types of men you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 02:14 AM
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Of course not. However, you need to ask yourself if the friendship is mutual and authentic. If you’re sticking around in hopes of eventually sleeping with her, the relationship is not authentic and if you’re the only one providing (paying for drinks/food, offering lifts with your car etc.), the friendship is not mutual either. Now obviously mutuality needs to be tested in every friendship, as men can be exploitative as well, however women are more utilitarian when it comes to relationships (be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 06:42 AM
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From a socio-economic POV, I would probably have to attribute this "phenomenon" to two main factors: a) weak parenting and b) better economic conditions. Of course this doesn't mean that economic development is by any means bad or undesirable, it just means that people get accustomed to better standards of living and probably don't have the same degree of tolerance as previous generations (when I hear stories from my grandparents about their childhoods, WW2 etc., I can't imagine myself living in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 10:50 PM
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Lol most women on here don't even reply with arguments. They just engage in ad hominem by virgin calling you (as if they know anything about you irl lmao) and expecting everyone else to flock to their support. Shout out to the few women here who actually engage in dialogue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:24 AM
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Lol karma farming? I knew this would be controversial af the moment I posted it. I couldn't care less about karma whoring, I voice my opinion regardless. I know the go-to practice of white knights and many feminists is to play a Uno reverse card (Oh women treat you like that because of you) and also include the word "incel" to sound woke, but I can pretty much say the exact same thing for women. Women who get mistreated should look into the mirror instead of blaming men. Sometimes it's true, som…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:12 AM
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Playing games with a man to alleviate your perceived guilt because you feel depreciated after years of casual hook ups (all of which is in her head btw), is manipulative behaviour that no self-respecting man tolerates. If you don't have the capacity to understand the answer, it's not my fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 12:10 AM
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An actual virgin, has more serious reasons for remaining a virgin than to play games most often. She can still use you for attention and whatnot, but you have no evidence to say she withholds sex for that reason, because if she did she probably wouldn't be a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 09:59 PM
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Lol it's funny how offended so many women would get it you suggest them hooking up is bad, but the moment you ask for hook up advice, they act like you're an asshole for just wanting to sleep with women. Like whenever a woman hooks up, it's because she was "tricked" or "manipulated", yet when it comes to them they justify their behaviour by saying "hey it was my choice to do so and you have no right to judge me!". But overall yeah, don't expect any useful hook up advice from women. They will tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 09:38 PM
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Yeah bud, that's totally what I'm saying. You decoded it, can NASA hire you already?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 09:03 PM
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Yeah exactly. Who says, he won't play the game while still messing around with other women until he wins? To clarify, I should have said this strategy might indeed work for filtering out eager fuckboys but also potentially filters out higher value men who don't like playing manipulative games.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:15 PM
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Yeah that's what I am saying. The only difference is I don't demand sex. If she says I want to feel chemistry before doing it, that's fine. If she says shit like "I don't want to give you the wrong impression" etc, it's clear she is withholding out of guilt and is probably not worth wasting your time on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:09 PM
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If that's really the case, then yeah of course she can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:04 PM
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I am having no issue. I am just tired of entitled fuckgirls who think men owe them their commitment, without first proving they are worthy of it. For some reason, it's okay to say "men are not entitled to women's bodies" but saying "women aren't entitled to men's time, effort and financial resources" is not? No one is entitled to anything. If she wants to date and see where it goes, without playing any fuckgirl games, then I'm fine, otherwise she can go. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 08:03 PM
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It's just that in my experience these types do it more. Also it's harder to tell if an inexperienced/virgin woman is not feeling comfortable yet or she's playing games (which I would expect she'd be too inexperienced to do). An inexperienced woman who wants to have sex with you, would do it more easily than a more experienced one who is feeling guilty about her past and is trying to "repent"(again in my experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:54 PM
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Yeah I know, it's too much information to process for a real virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:49 PM
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Yes, that is correct. I am not a prude saying marriage is holy and women should save it etc, what I am saying is playing games in exchange for sex is cheap and a sign of a low value female.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:40 PM
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Is in the meantime or after having 20 casual hook ups that they realised that lol? What other reason is it for them to feel bad about if not shame and remorse? I know the counterargument of "I won't play her games so I can have sex with her" is "You're not entitled to her body", but that completely misses the point. I don't expect sex right away, but I won't play shitty games just to get it. Wanting to know me better first is different from playing around, and it's clearly evident that the issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:38 PM
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I don't object with people wanting to feel comfortable before having sex with someone; I myself, would probably be unable to have sex with a woman on the very first date, if I barely know her. My objection is acting like her vagina is made of gold and I have to play games until she deems me worthy to sleep with me. That's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:23 PM
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Lol good luck to them if they think they' re gonna find a 25 yo virgin wife. Also even if they do, they're gonna have fun trying to sort out her issues for remaining a virgin until the age of 25. But apart from that, personally I think that an LTR with an inexperienced partner, regardless of gender, is unlikely to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:20 PM
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Let me think... Is the PornHub video monetized and if so, do I get % on the profits lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:30 AM
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In literally every comment reply, you provide talking points which are the epitome of what this sub supposedly dislikes in female behaviour (using men for validation is OK, men should be required to pay just for being lucky enough to date women, knowing your value is insecurity etc.) Point is, and I am going to repeat it for the 100th time, I take issue if she uses me to alleviate her conscience for letting multiple other guys "hit it for free" in the past. In a sea of pussywhipped orbiters, sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:21 AM
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Yeah that's what I am driving at in case you didn't get it... N-count per se is not the problem, but the luggage women with high n-counts usually have, regardless of whether it's caused by the n-count or not (which usually isn't). This is why I state that in my experience, even if I completely disregard the n-count factor, I would still not LTR women like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:11 AM
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Wow you must be Inspector fucking Clouseau! Yes, reformed sluts are women with high n-counts who feel guilty about their past and try to make up for it by being pretentious. My issue is not with the n-count part here, but with the pretentious part. I've repeated that a few times now so people as dense as you would get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 07:05 AM
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Yeah so? You think you're gonna find some hidden gem in there and use it against me haha? "Good guys" don't have to be oblivious fools with no knowledge of female nature who tip their fedoras while saying "M'lady". To me good guys don't have to be idiots, but they aren't assholes either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:57 AM
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Crazy coincidence right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:51 AM
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I am going to try and explain it to you as simply as possible... Suppose you are a restaurant owner. Many customers have recently ordered food, eaten and left without paying. Eventually one customer asks for the bill and is willing to pay what he owes, so the restaurant owner thinks "Hmm what if I cover my previous losses from all these fleeing customers by charging this guy what the others owe me...?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:44 AM
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And what does this have to do with insecurity? A man who knows his value doesn't consciously work extra for what many others got a free pass at. If she was worth it, she wouldn't have been pumped and dumped by 20 dudes lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:39 AM
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Smoking is an addiction, hookups are hardly the same lol. Also what exactly are the negative consequences of casual hook ups in the mind of a woman, except for losing value in the eyes of high value men? See the problem is you don't see things from a guy's perspective either. If I am expected to invest money, time and effort in women, then I have to expect something in return, right? And who says I can't waste all three while getting nothing back? Also multiply that by 3 for instance and you'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:35 AM
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The funny thing is even if I disregard it as a factor, for most women I know with high n-counts, they would still make terrible LTR candidates due to other attributes they have (lazy, debaucherous, self-centered etc.). Surprising coincidence, isn't it? Also given that I fall in the category of relatively attractive, "good guy" (according to women) from a first outlook, somehow I constantly get approached by the "reformed" types. Another surprising coincidence lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:16 AM
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Alcohol is like truth serum to many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:05 AM
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Depends on the n-count, not gonna lie. However, the older I get, the less I care about dating Mother Mary and more I do dating someone compatible and worth investing my time to. Now you say commit? Isn't that too much of an expectation so early on? I mean men expecting sex from women is somehow entitled but women expecting absolute devotion within the first few weeks of meeting someone isn't? How will I know if you even deserve my commitment before I've dated you for a while...? If you are such …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 06:00 AM
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Are you are implying women never use sex control as a tactic for getting things their way? Because if you are, you are either lying or being naive. I am not saying that women refraining from sex is always manipulative, what I am saying is that IT CAN BE manipulative sometimes. How? Look for various hints, like I stated. Also a recurring "mistake" is hardly a mistake isn't it? If you did 1-2 hookups and realised it's not your thing, I could probably say yeah, it was a mistake. However, after 10 h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 05:48 AM
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To some extent, it’s naivety to some other it’s straight out lying. It’s very unlikely you’ll gain anything through discussion with them anyway. Even most female friends in real life will give you ineffective advise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:51 PM
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Smartphones made a hell of a difference in conjunction with rise of social media and dating apps. People are now 24/7 online, living in a digital reality where they think they actually are their Facebook or IG personas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 04:05 PM
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In the past 10 years that I've been sexually active I have never had an issue with a condom. Just buy decent quality condoms (not the ones that go dry after 10 minutes of sex), don't use them past their expiration date and store them in cool temperature. Also condoms shouldn't slip unless you don't pull out right after ejaculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:42 AM
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Because most people are self-centred and can only see things from their perspective. Tbh the only serious problems women in the western world face, are #2 (i.e. the fact they are physically weaker that the vast majority of men and thus more vulnerable to sexual violence or in need of a man for certain manual labours) and one which you excluded is that if they want to start a family they have to give up on their career most likely (because there aren't enough hours in a day to work and adequately…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 02:44 AM
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Observation really. Following MGTOW or TRP dogmatically, or any philosophy/idea for that matter, is problematic. However, they do reveal certain truths about female behaviour which mainstream media cannot address because they are considered taboo/politically incorrect. Obviously, not all women are thirsty attention whores who fuck around in their 20s and look to marry in their 30s, but if you examine history, you'll see that women aren't necessarily the oppressed victims feminists claim. Also I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:27 AM
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AWALT: You can’t claim that literally 100% of women, out of 3.5 billion which have been raised in completely different cultures, operate the exact same way. Actual misogyny: Unlike feminists claiming that if you breathe next to a woman, it’s misogynistic rape, TRP philosophy teaches actual resentment of women. Yes, on average women have certain get out of jail cards men don’t, but hating them for it won’t gain you anything. TRP can be attractive because it speaks some truths that are not common …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:21 AM
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Couldn’t agree more. Especially about the Left, instead of focusing on wealth inequality and the fact we have literally become wage slaves, they are circle jerking and being obsessive-compulsive with identity politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:49 AM
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The problem with political correctness is that it is out of touch with reality. Women have a natural tendency to initially reject and/or test your advances. Rarely will a woman explicitly say yes to your approach from the beginning. Thus, by feminists’ line of reasoning, you should take a woman’s mixed signals as a no and move on, leading us to the whole “where have all the men gone?” and “why do men no longer flirt?” tropes by women. A “no” can become a yes and it’s been proven many times. No r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:06 AM
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Me 26, her 37.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 01:24 AM
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Yes. This view is also supported by behavioural economics which claim our decision making is biased under hunger, sexual arousal, anger etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:48 AM
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It depends on how you frame them. Not gonna lie and pretend women are not appalled by perceived weaknesses in men, but if you suffer from a mental condition or are traumatised by a specific incident (regardless of whether you have an official health issue), you can still gain female attention. After my break up from a 4.5 year relationship, I realised that my emotional unavailability and my comedic cynicism (which was a subconscious response to being emotionally hurt), made me look attractive to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:58 AM
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Both men and women are more likely to engage in unprotected sex with partners they perceive to be attractive. The funny thing is that this bias although it results in the same behaviour for both genders, it demonstrates the following difference. Men are more likely to have unprotected sex with women they perceive as attractive because they believe they are less likely to have STDs. Women are more likely to have unprotected sex with men they perceive as attractive, despite believing an attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 11:49 PM
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One thing I liked about my ex-gf was that, in the 4.5 years we were together, she very rarely cried (given how many women cry manipulatively all the time). Like, there were times where we would argue and while being angered I would cross the line (being too mean/harsh), yet she wouldn't cry just to manipulatively end the argument. Instead she looked like she kinda felt bad if she realised I was right. This was one of the qualities I really admired in her. Overall, it depends on the situation. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:28 PM
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Don't want to sound like a Boomer blaming everything on social media and the internet, but social media in combination with feminism are largely to blame, if you ask me. When women get worshipped 24/7 on FB and IG and at the same time they are told by feminists that they need to be empowered and that everything resolves around them, it's hard to not become a manipulative, narcissistic egomaniac.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 04:32 AM
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Yeah I'd agree then. A large proportion of women below the age of 30 are narcissistic, self-absorbed and shallow. I think these are among the most toxic traits a person can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 04:24 AM
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Respectable, funny, cute, caring etc. You can name a dozen characteristics which would apply to both genders. How are they sterile? You asked for both negative and posite traits and I gave all-encompassing terms of each. For me (and most men I know) the most unpleasant/toxic traits in a woman are self-victimisation (women who blame their failures on others, usually men rather than exercising self-criticism), manipulation (will be nice or flirty with you just to get what they want), disrespect/ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 04:19 AM
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I believe you mean Millennial and Gen Z women. The youngest Gen X women are like 38 now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 04:07 AM
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Pleasant is kind of superficial for a term, but I would generally say not self-victimised, non-manipulative, respectable towards men (especially younger women act as if it's cool to hate on/disrespect men and it's highly toxic) and non-narcissistic/elf-absorbed social media queens. Other than that, the same traits which would apply for men more or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 04:03 AM
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Bruh no. I know a few dudes like your friend who sleep with visually appalling women, even though they are decently attractive themselves, and this only worsens the problem cause these chicks then feel like they are entitled to better looking men. I also know less experienced/less attractive dudes whose standards are way too high, for whom I would agree they probably need to set the bar a little lower. However, overall men need to know their worth, you can't just butcher your standards because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 03:48 AM
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Modern societies now shun any concept/evidence which dares place responsibility on women, but welcome even unfounded claims which place responsibility on men. It's simple confirmation bias. Porn doesn't "damage" males' brains, the only thing you can assert is that it influences their preferences and maybe their view on women (but mainly the first one). The real reason many feminists and other women have spoken against it, is because porn raises men's expectations of women in sex and obviously th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 10:00 PM
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It's not about all women being "broken", not all women are the same anyway. The problem is this: men and women have different gender roles by definition. Men do the "providing" and women do the "caretaking"; this is what our primal urges tell us to do and this is the Social Contract which existed for centuries between the two genders. Now does it have to be strictly this way? Obviously not. However, a lot of the SJW/feminist rhetoric which has gained prominence the past few years and has infiltr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:57 AM
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I don't believe TRP to its full extent (ex. AWALT). You cannot possibly state that these behaviours and traits apply to literally 100% of women, that's insane, and also many red pillers act as if every woman is a sociopath. TRP simply outlines a trend in the West, given female nature and the sexual revolution of the 60s. But not, why would I want it to be true. I don't think any man likes to be desired for only what he can essentially provide. The reason red pillers are so vocal, is that they fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:26 AM
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Yep pretty much. One thing that behavioural economics teach us it that hardly ever economic agents are fully aware of all their options. This is true in real life dating, there's less competition because women have a lower awareness of their "sexual value". On the internet, however, women realise very fast how many men are actually after them (their real demand) and this raises their perceived value significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 08:32 PM
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Did you even read my post? Clearly not, cause then you wouldn't be asking that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:56 PM
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You'd be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 07:45 AM
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Funny thing is he isn't from any western country though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 07:41 AM
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Yeah that makes sense. Maybe the fact he didn't grow up in any developed, western country also plays a role since there's probably more sexism in his original culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 07:40 AM
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Approaching someone on your own initiative is compromising and involves the possibility of rejection which is emotionally stressful. So why take the risk when you don't have to..? Also because women deep down see it as a "man's job" to take initiative in most things (they like dominance, assertiveness etc.). Pretty evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:16 AM
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Mid 20s for most women, 18-21 is too young. Women who look better in their early 20s and decline past 25, are usually the types to drink, smoke, eat junk food and never exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:03 AM
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Because it's easier to engage in ad-hominem than it is to actually address the argument with factual evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 05:54 AM
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Of course this is just my observation, it's not empirical evidence. I think the women who could be classified as "unstable" or "having baggage", are women who overall prefer casual hook ups to LTRs. The reason is that they are probably unable to commit in a serious stable relationship (ex. daddy issues) and casual sex is a form of escapism for them. A woman can also have a relatively high n-count but still all her partners may have been from LTRs. Suppose a woman is sexually active from the age …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 01:12 AM
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Personally, 80% of the girls I have met with n-counts>10 (and I am talking about Millennial and Gen Z chicks) I would definitely classify as poor options for an LTR. They are fun as friends or FWBs and honestly if they like sleeping around, it’s their business, but they are generally selfish, debaucherous and lazy (all of which are poor qualities for an LTR partner). Now it is safe to assume that most women lie about n-counts, so even a girl who seems decent for an LTR might have a high n-count,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 05:39 PM
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If you are a man in an exclusive, serious relationship, going open is to your detriment. Even if you can get 1-2 women, your gf/wife can get like 10 so it's a hard no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 05:16 PM
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According to whom exactly? Yeah if you think your only worth is your external appearance, of course you’re gonna feel useless if you’re unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 12:28 AM
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If we are talking about the modern notion of egalitarianism, yes. You can't have 100% gender equality in a society, simply because men and women are biologically and socially different. In order to have perfect gender equality, both men and women need to have the exact same rights AND responsibilities. The issue is a) women don't want these responsibilities b) women CANNOT biologically support many of these responsibilities, as they violate gender roles (man=provider, woman=caretaker) and biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:58 AM
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The problem is that a man's ego and feeling of self-worth is intrinsically and biologically linked to his ability to have sex. And not just to have sex, but also be aware that you are attractive to women. Having sex with prostitutes (beyond being extremely expensive and inferior to actual sex) doesn't satisfy the need to be desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:35 AM
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Internal vs external locus of control. Men with external locus of control tend to place the blame on others (women, society, family etc.) whereas men with internal locus tend to blame themselves. Now as far as specific personality traits are concerned you'd probably need to conduct experiments, but if I had to take a guess, I'd correlate neuroticism and maybe disagreeableness with anger externalisation (if we're talking about the Five Factor Model). You can't really change the dating scene, it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 05:23 AM
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Even if that were to be true, all men are not conservative tradcons so check again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 12:21 AM
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Since men think they're better than women... Citation needed..?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 04:16 AM
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I don't really like the idea of my partner supporting me financially, both for my own dignity and because I dislike people who rely on their partners to feed them (both men and women). However, if we are being realistic, the vast majority of women would dump your ass eventually in a scenario like this. Yes, they may love you but attraction is lost when a man becomes dependent on the woman. Why? Both for biological and social reasons. Let's be honest, from a biological point of view, men are mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 02:23 AM
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Seriously, the only women I know who are in their mid/late 20s and complain about being in a shitty physical condition, are women who smoked, drunk, partied and never stepped into a gym in their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:23 AM
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Depends on what "low view of women" actually means because this argument is used waay too frequently when a man is critical of certain female behaviours (it's the "believe and doubt not" equivalent of feminism). At the same time, they are critical af of men to the point of insanity. Seems a bit off, doesn't it? Also being critical of women =/= hating women. Men tend to engage in certain behaviours more than women do, on average, and equivalently, women tend to engage in certain behaviours more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 02:47 AM
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Because there too many blue pillers in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 05:55 PM
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That’s no excuse and no, 2 glasses of white wine consumed slowly within 2.5 hours is hardly being drunk lol. Also you forgot about the part where I said she started flirting with me in the first place before we went out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 07:06 AM
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Who lets someone they dislike finger them?? It doesn’t make any sense. All I am suggesting is she either regretted putting out too fast (which is stupid) or she has someone else lined up (which is shitty). The only reason I am considering clarifying the situation is because her roommate is a friend of mine, otherwise I couldn’t care less literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 06:50 AM
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I am not arguing if she has the right or not to see me anymore lol, I am not a freaking incel. I am simply stating that the reason for this is immature, based on the evidence and I am also asking if I should try to clarify the situation, (because I dislike misunderstandings) or not bother at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 06:26 AM
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Lol before calling it a night, she implied if she lived alone, she would invite me in the house. So I find it hard to believe she randomly decided to “not date me anymore” like 2 days letter. Being anxious-avoidant could make some sense, but like I said someone who potentially invites you for sex, doesn’t just make up their mind within 2 days. Unless you are a 17 year old girl who has no clue what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 06:21 AM
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So she just randomly made that decision 2 days after the date? And it had absolutely nothing to do with the pace at which things progressed...? Somehow I find that hard to believe, because before calling it a night, she suggested that if she was living alone, she would invite me in (possibly for sex). So to me it just seems like the typical “On a second thought, I shouldn’t have put out that easily, so I am just gonna ghost him because he pressured me”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 06:13 AM
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MGTOWs make extreme generalizations about women based on specific behaviours. Yes, there are selfish, narcissistic, spoiled women who were brought up like princesses and will marry you just for the resources and the comfort you can provide them, but hardly every woman is like that...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 02:59 AM
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Most conservatives almost always advocate for policies and norms that serve their own interests, in every aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 02:28 AM
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Are Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg stereotypical alphas (big, strong and dominant)? Well no, in today’s societies brains > physical strength for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 09:56 PM
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The concepts of “alphas” and “betas” are not entirely representative of humans, we are too complicated to simply be described in such simplistic terms. You can say alpha traits are dominance, assertiveness, leadership, strength, charisma etc. and beta traits are submissiveness, too much agreeableness, weakness etc, but if you assume that the typical alphas rule the world, you ‘d be mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 09:39 PM
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I thought purge week was over...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 11:48 PM
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Not trying to be an expert here, but if it's true it could be potentially explained by the different standards men and women have today to be content/happy. Men are simpler and our "happiness/satisfaction" is more linear: We want A -> we acquire A -> we feel content and rewarded. On the other hand, women are more complicated and don't just want A or B, they essentially want an entire support system which is inline with their decisions and desires (family+friends+SO). Also women are more idealist…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 03:56 AM
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Age terribly? That's like implying they ever looked good in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:34 AM
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I am pretty sure this hyperinflated image of all women wanting to "cuck" you with "Chads" with 13 inch cocks and 12pack abs is a construct of the Internet. Are there shallow women who only go for looks and flex value (muscle, money, status)? Yes, there have always existed. However, IF (and that's a big if) you disconnect for a moment from the WWW, you will realise that real life is not exclusively like that. Yes, online dating is a cesspool. Solution? Don't date online. Seriously, it's like divi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:06 AM
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It definitely is. When I first stumbled upon TRP (and MGTOW), I was really drawn in due to how it addresses issues, to which mainstream media turn a blind eye because they don’t fit their feminist/politically correct agendas, yet TRP philosophy made completely logical and valid points. For instance, they all cry about women being oppressed in the West (which is a fucking joke) or the Wage gap (which is also a joke and has been debunked numerous times), yet no one wanted to address the instances …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 01:23 AM
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TRP is true in many things, and is the basis for the Purple Pill, but ultimately it teaches misogyny and loathing women. I understand that a man who has been fed Blue Pill BS his entire life and gets his heart broken by a woman he loves might stumble uppon TRP and feel like he can relate and that his "whole life was a lie", but if you linger on TRP you end up doing more damage to yourself than good. You essentially deprive yourself of women and you become extremely biased and warry of them, to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 07:30 PM
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My general rule (for both men and women) is "don't ask questions, the answers to which you don't want to know". That said, women also shouldn't be fishing for questions; ex. if the man doesn't bring up penis size in the first place, avoid the topic. For instance, if you really want to know the average penis size, use Google and your brain to figure it out. Don't ask the man questions like "What size is considered average?" or "How big is your penis?". As far as n-count goes, my opinion is affect…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:53 PM
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The rate might even be higher, but you'd have to take into account the requirements the average woman has to feel sexually satisfied vs the requirements a man does as a meaningful variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 10:06 PM
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Women are naturally more selective than men. This is a biological fact, it's not an opinion and we've known it for quite some time though we turned a blind eye, because it is politically incorrect and indifferent. The point is, what do you suggest doing in response? We can circle-jerk about how much worse dudes have it all day every day, there's no point. PS: 28% sexual dissatisfaction for men is pretty low if you ask me. And the fact most men are 16-29 years old can be easily explained by the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 10:04 PM
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I am talking about when video games become an addiction and lead to escapism and isolation. I myself have played numerous video games since I was a kid and I think they are fine. However, it's hard to find potential mates when you are holed up for 15 hours/day in your room, raiding and farming in WoW.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:49 AM
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Of course it's unfair, life's unfair. But you can dwell on self-pity and self-victimisation or choose your own path. I take it for granted that women have it much better than us on average and it no longer poisons my mind and feelings. It's a fact I cannot change, why let it ruin my mood all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:41 AM
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My intention was not to be judgemental, I don't even know how you picked this up. After all, I have also been in a position of feeling undesirable by women in the past and upon closer examination, I detected many areas of improvement after I stopped whining about not getting laid and focused on self-improvement. My intention is to convey the message that most men complaining about this very issue, do in fact very little to better themselves. That's what I am trying to point out, so if anything I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:37 AM
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When I was 22 I also had issues dating, for men it usually gets easier after the age of 25 since you have access to a wider pool of women, you become more sophisticated and confident. Can't speak specifically for your case, but judging from the information you provided I can hardly classify you as undateable. You certainly have a lot going for yourself at this age. That said, my ex-gf's brother is also around 5'5'' and he is a ladies man, so it really depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 11:41 PM
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Tbh I always admired short men with incredible self-confidence (and oftentimes they managed to sleep with many attractive women too). I've also met very tall men who were extremely graceless/awkward and their height only made matters worse. You just have to make the best out of what you're given, if you can't change something (although there are some stretching exercises which supposedly can make you taller because they straighten your spinal cord).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 11:31 PM
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I am just saying that because I often hear people on threads like this assert that if you're not 6+ ft, you're fucked. And I am by no means tall. I think you were just a mentalcel Yes that is my point exactly. I wasn't getting laid due to my poor mindset and self-victimisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 11:01 PM
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I don't know if they are a vocal minority or majority, but I do know that not getting laid can be really emotionally stressful and draining for a man (because I've been there) and consequently this sexual frustration can manifest itself as online circle-jerking. Also judging from my friends/acquaintances who fall into that category, I can assert that they do almost absolutely nothing to improve themselves, yet they nag about how women have high standards etc. My post isn't meant to bash anyone, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:54 PM
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Visit your dentist and he/she can probably recommend the best whitening method for your teeth. My teeth are fragile and sensitive so I wore a retainer which I filled with a special gel every night before sleep for 1 month. It was a slow process for me because if I applied too much gel, my teeth would hurt the next day, so it's usually easier and quicker for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:43 PM
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It's funny because I am actually 5 ft 9 and my height was more of an issue back when I felt self-aware and insecure about it. Now I've just accepted it and don't give 2 shits no more. Sure, tall men have it easier but height isn't the only factor, it's more of a self-confidence thing (and I am pretty sure tall, skinny men who look like Slenderman come off more as creepy than attractive to women). Anyway, there's no point in discussing who has it better or worse, what we are discussing is that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:35 PM
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My experience has shown that most men who are incels/30year-old virgins, usually tend to do nothing to improve themselves and instead spend most of their energy in nagging about how they don't get laid. You mean to tell me that if the average guy hits the gym 2-3 times/week, renews his wardrobe and takes better care of his hair/skin, he will still be undateable? This only true for unfortunate dudes who are either extremely short or have some other deformity/condition. They have every right to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:24 PM
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Yeah well, like I said I've put in a certain amount of effort to be considered "handsome" and that's why I advise other men in their 20s to do the same. I exercise regularly, I try to follow a healthy diet, I groom my facial hair and select haircuts that suit the shape of my head, I buy clothes that suit/fit me, I whitened and repaired my teeth recently etc. Believe me, if you had seen me when I was 15, you'd want to shoot yourself in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:13 PM
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80% of men are repulsive in the eyes of women? Somehow I doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 09:48 PM
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I like swimming and playing the guitar, for instance. Pretty much anything that floats your boat, be it hiking, cycling, yoga, chess etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 09:46 PM
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Ah yes, the typical troll who stalks others' post histories to derail the conversation instead of making a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 09:43 PM
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I can totally relate. I am decently handsome (according to others always) too and for the love of me, could never pick up dates from Tinder or even Facebook. Approaching women online is far more difficult because you don't have the chance to stand out and because online competition is much more fierce. Let's be honest, women are being worshipped on social media (100+ likes, comments of admiration from thirsty dudes etc.) so they become much more selective online.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 09:29 PM
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I never said video games aren't a respectable hobby, neither did I suggest picking up a hobby just to get laid; and believe me I have played, and still play, many video games. What I am saying is that most video games are geared towards men and thus are not a great social activity for meeting women. Also if you'd rather spend 15 hours/day playing WoW (and I speak as someone who has been there in the past), it's no wonder you have no sex life. Hobbies are often social activities which boost your …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 09:21 PM
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Exactly, I am not going to lie and say any dude can be Ryan Gosling, but a lot can be achieved by self-improvement. And I focus on improving the wardrobe cause it literally requires very little effort and many men completely overlook the importance of decent clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 09:09 PM
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It's not that black and white. Yes, online dating is a cesspool but approaching women in real life rather than swiping left and right until you get a match, is often a better strategy for many men if you ask me. Also, despite how much I despise IG models and influencers for being narcissistic, self-absorbed douches, you can't deny they haven't put in some serious effort to be fit. You don't get an ass like Lexy Panterra's by smoking, drinking alcohol and partying all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 07:44 PM
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Like I said, most people I know in real life who are like this, are unfit/chubby, dress like 16 year olds and most of their free time is spent playing WoW or LoL. So somehow I doubt they are putting any actual effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 07:33 PM
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I am pretty certain most men can handle most women, in terms of physical strength. What are you even comparing...? It has absolutely nothing to do with white knighting. If someone (regardless of gender) was getting beat up in your house would you sit there like "Naah, I don't give a flying fuck"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 07:40 PM
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Did I mention anywhere they don't have the right to fuck anyone they want? I only care who they fuck because we share the accommodation and I wouldn't like some random dude stealing my stuff or eating my food. If it was their place, I literally couldn't care less if they fucked 15 dudes/day. I just find it lame when people rely solely on dating apps to meet dates. These girls have literally not spent a month here and instead of going out with another student from the university, they just swipe …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 07:00 PM
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I don't care where the people are originally from, what I care is that if all of us start bringing random dates home every other day (my other roommate brought her BF the other day, for instance and I didn't mind), then the house becomes significantly less secure. Also, I'd hate to wake up one day, only to realise that one of my roommates' Tinder hook ups helped themselves to my food from the fridge. Not to mention, these Tinder dates they bring home, aren't students from the university, they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 06:44 PM
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See that's the issue I have. Many women purposely use dating apps (despite knowing many weirdos frequent on these dating apps) and then complain, as if they are entitled to the perfect date for some reason. You are just two weirdos using the same app that happened to match, if all your matches are weirdos then I guess this also reveals something about you. Do some self-assessment before crying about how everyone on Tinder is weird (and better yet, don't use it if that's what you think). I mean t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 05:20 PM
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I am not calling out or dissing anyone. I know the dudes on Tinder are on the same level but I know perfectly well most of them are just weirdos hoping for relatively effortless sex. What I don't understand is what women get out of this (I mean they are more at risk than the dudes are, since they can get raped, mugged etc. more easily). If I had a male roommate doing the exact same thing, I would find it equally lame. Funny enough the other guys in my accommodation are much more reserved about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 05:08 PM
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Yeah I hear this phrase being thrown around a lot, especially on the web. "She is with you now, that's all that matters". Well no. Just because she is with you doesn't mean her past is magically erased, nor does it exclude the possibility that perhaps she is only settling by being with you. If you eliminate the possibility that she is settling, then I guess it would make some sense to say that, but if she's just using you for emotional comfort because the guy she really wants dumped her or only …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 04:49 PM
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Yeah but if you call a dude mentally unstable/insecure for trying to fill his inner void by fucking random chicks, then it's ok, but God forbid you dare suggest the same thing about a girl who gets drunk every week and hooks up with random dudes. Then you are a misogynist lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 04:34 PM
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The fuck are you talking about? I am not intimidated by "bold people with less fear" lmao (I am pretty sure what you mean here is reckless people) and I am definitely not seeking to repress anyone. If you like dating 15 people/week then go ahead, I couldn't care less. However when we share a flat/house/any type of accommodation, I have every right to feel uneasy if you are going to bring every random hook up home. I am capable of dating people I meet in the real world just fine so I don't have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 04:30 PM
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True, but 2/4 women (the only westerners) in my flat are frequently using Tinder for casual hook ups, is it a coincidence? The other 2 come from more conservative cultures/backgrounds so I am pretty sure online dating is looked down upon there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 04:21 PM
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I told you what the ones I am referring to study (creative writing & env. science/policy) so I am not going to reveal more info than needed on the web. And no I am not doing the same programme as any of them, I am studying Behavioural & Managerial Economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 04:17 PM
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Chaotic neutral advice lol. Can't say I am particularly attracted to any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 03:21 PM
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I am pretty sure I didn't involve morals anywhere in my post. There is nothing wrong from a moral perspective if you enjoy hooking up with random people from dating apps. I just find it bizarre and kinda lame to rely on dating apps to meet people (and a bit unsafe since you have no clue who you are meeting and all these people come into our house every week).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 03:15 PM
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The other girls are not westerners. One of them is from the Middle-East and has a bf and the other is from China but seems very conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 03:11 PM
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I believe one is studying Creative Writing and the other Environmental Science or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 12:17 PM
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The most Southeastern country of Europe (now studying in the UK). Of course there are but it is the first time I encounter such casualness regarding dating and fucking random people every week through dating apps. At least in my country, sluts tend to fuck people they meet in the outside world lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 12:12 PM
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I’d rate them around 6-6.5. Not gorgeous, not ugly either, they are slightly above average, but nothing special,
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 12:03 PM
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Yeah STD's don't matter either, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 03:48 AM
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Lol and have to deal with their petty drama and passive aggressive BS every day afterwards? No thanks, since I'm gonna be staying here for almost a year, I'd rather not get involved with any of my female roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 03:42 AM
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I don’t know about the data, you may be right. What I want to point out is that this is a common issue caused by the Media and the poor relationship people have with statistics. The reason people get the impression sexual abuse of male students by female teachers is so common, is due to the Media focusing and reporting only these stories to play on male fantasies and peek men’s interest. The same thing happens when you watch the news for half an hour: An earthquake here, a tsunami there, a mass …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 03:37 PM
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Admit that many men spend numerous hours at the gym just for female attention and no one bats an eye. Assert that women wear a piece of clothing for male attention and everyone loses their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 09:40 PM
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Yeah I guess crying online for not getting laid, while you do nothing to better yourself, is much better lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 12:27 PM
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I agree, mgtow/incels are just a symptom of the identity politics pushed by feminists and SJWs, despite them acting as if the root problem is misogyny. Misogyny always existed yet mgtows and incels only started appearing at the same time with the whole SJW apocalypse. However, I think dating sites/social media are a trap. Women are far more selective and hard to get on social media and dating sites because the number of men approaching them is far greater than the number of men who approach them…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 11:18 AM
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You can never be certain of a girl's sexual history, but there are signs. However, what do you mean by "slut"? A girl who has had many partners/cheats/lies or a girl who simply craves attention? For me, there's a distinction between a "slut" and an attention whore, the former has fucked many dudes, usually cheats and lies, while the latter might post revealing photos on social media, but it doesn't necessarily mean she is sexually experienced. In any event, you can tell by the vibes she is givin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:22 AM
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Yeah the more you speak, the more it becomes apparent you don't have a clue what either "autism" or "empathy" mean, you're just throwing terms out there to make a point. And I don't even know how you got to the conclusion that I am "obsessed with this stuff" lmao, I rarely debate such issues anymore and even if I did it has nothing to do with autism. Autistics don't hang out in parties debating Nietzsche and String Theory, you dumbfuck... You're just falsely using the term to describe people who…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:05 AM
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I haven't mentioned the word "intelligence" not once in my post and I honestly don't see why only "autistic" people would be interested in highly technical, scientific/philosophical debates. I've been to numerous parties and after the stage where everyone gets shit-faced and only a handful of people remain awake (usually early in the morning), it is very frequent that such a debate might start.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:16 AM
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Lmao, my problem is not that I bore women and they won't talk to me; I am doing fine with women, thank you very much. With this post I am not striving for female attention, you have misunderstood the purpose. My intention was to legitimately understand why it's mostly men who are interested in abstract, philosophical/scientific conversations. Maybe the title of the post does not reflect exactly what I had in mind but whatever, I got the answer I was looking for. I don't know if you have MENSA me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:08 AM
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I think you just answered my question perfectly but not with the part which you intended to be the answer. Women are more interested in conversations that involve people/emotions/human relationships and tend to be bored by conversations which involve abstract concepts (pretty much what others have suggested in the comments). A conversation doesn't have to be directly applicable to daily life to be interesting. In fact, some of the most interesting conversations involve abstract concepts like wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 07:34 PM
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Are you implying I may be the reason they are not interested in discussing such topics? I've heard the same thing being said by many other men as well. But even if they all fall into the same category as I do, how do you explain the disproportionate amount of women in STEM fields and philosophy? Are you going to make the ludicrous "men discourage women from STEM" argument lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 06:50 PM
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The fuck you're talking about? Who said anything about needing more women in STEM? I asked a clear and precise question: WHY do women seem less interested in the aforementioned subjects than men are? If you want to start a virtual debate about something completely irrelevant, go find someone else. I am not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 06:40 PM
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Let me rephrase: All natural and social sciences have a philosophical component (Why x happens and not y? What are the ethical implications of z over n? etc.). My question is, why is it that men are more interested, on average, in exploring these philosophical questions than women are?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 06:33 PM
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These examples are very specific, I don't think they are representative. But still, I never said a woman cannot excel professionally in STEM fields. What I am talking about here is statistics. Why is it that, on average, women tend to avoid these fields and seem less interested in discussing them in social events (parties, gatherings etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 06:22 PM
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I suppose you are referring to the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, do you mind elaborating?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 06:09 PM
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Then I suppose feminism has no place in our societies either, because "that's how the market works". If women had actual value in society, they wouldn't need women's rights movements to advocate for equal rights, they were right were they belonged back in the 50s. Slavery too. The market demanded slavery to exist, thus we shouldn't have abolished it. The "market" is not a perfect entity, that's why markets are regulated in the first place. Regardless, who told you she gets that kind of man? Thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 12:11 AM
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I agree, however I can't help but be put off by the idea that a woman essentially views you as a means to an end biologically (to provide her and her children with safety and security). Due to this, I doubt most women can ever make the sacrifices men make for them in a relationship, so a significant imbalance in my opinion is created because men assume high risk with little reward when married.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 02:16 AM
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To be honest, everyone is going after the best possible choice of partner according to their needs and desires. However, women do have the upper hand because that's how biology and gender dynamics work (men approach women thus women are more selective). More specifically, I have observed it's mostly millennial chicks doing this because they were raised by super lenient baby-boomer parents who treated them like princesses and taught them to be very demanding and self-centered. This phenomenon in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 02:02 AM
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Well don't forget that there is stigma attached to men who have been cheated on (they are called "cucks"). Society tends to put the blame on men both when cheating (insensitive bastards, pigs etc.) and often when cheated on (he didn't care enough for her, didn't pay attention to her needs etc.). Given how it's mostly men who support the household, on average, it makes sense that cheating is a big red flag for men. Would you want to work your ass off to provide for a cheating wife? Would you feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 01:30 AM
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I like your scientific approach lol, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:46 PM
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I am not saying TRP is 100% right. Because I've experienced how fulfilling a good relationship can be, but can't ignore some facts about female nature. However, spending your life hating on women and avoiding relationships is self-destructive and self-defeating in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 09:17 PM
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I can totally empathize with you as I am currently going through a similar phase. Recently, I broke up from a 4 year relationship. I was happy for the most part, the only problem was my natural urge of wanting to sleep with other girls, we did a lot of fun things together and we supported each other emotionally. However, the past year she was going on about marriage and living together and getting serious etc. to which I was strongly against (for different reasons like believing we are too young…
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