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We deny that all women are dumb sluts. Well that's retarded. How can you possibly do that when dumb slut behavior is encouraged and defended on a daily basis and it's a mans problem if he doesn't like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 11:50 AM
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They don't. You're just that whipped. There aren't two types of females, there are two types of men. A) whipped boys who accept their place and stick up for a female and it's entitlement, or B) men who won't tolerate that bullshit anymore and that makes females and type A "men" quite angry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 11:44 AM
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Yep. Expecting females to behave with the same morals men are subject to is a waste of time and energy. They simply can't do it and won't do it. I still fuck em, sure. I have to lie about what benefits I'll give it and overstate my salary etc, but they ain't gonna get shit from me otherwise. It's either get fucked or get cucked. I know which one I like better
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 12:16 AM
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Of course not. They lie out their asses. A females word is worthless, watch its actions. A few notable examples of my observations of how they behave v what they say in the past year when I really started to take notice of how they are and why I would no longer voluntarily enslave myself include but are definitely not limited to the following(note, I won't even include what's been done to me directly, some involve me, but I won't speak of any of my exes): A) female whines to me about men not wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 12:03 AM
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The fact that I'm not retarded and actually have had many relationships, "friend"ships and speak to many many females. That's just what they are. If I see just a single solitary one behave otherwise, we can talk. But I'm not holding my breath.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 11:38 PM
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That, and do something besides sit back with an outstretched hand demanding it be filled. But on a fundamental level, a female simply isn't capable of anything else, it can only process "gimme". It really does believe that simply allowing a man to audition for the chance to be useful to it counts as doing something for him
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 11:32 PM
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Or females could behave properly for once. I know I know, that's pretty rough behaving properly without forcing a man to work his ass off just to earn "decent" and not being a disloyal whore constantly seeking an upgrade, but I bet if you tried you could! Aw who am I kidding. If females could do that, they already would've
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 11:25 PM
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, then it follows that those guys somehow attract or are attracted to women they believe are bad It's two layered with its shittiness. Firstly, female "bad" behavior is a mans responsibility to avoid. And secondly, note the wording of "women they believe to be bad." They're not actually bad apparently, it's just a man believing it to be bad and that's his problem
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 11:20 PM
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Yes. At the end of the day, the most important thing to a female is giving it access to his resources and him making himself useful
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 10:24 PM
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Well let's start with the OP itself. Females unreasonably high standards aren't their problem, it's a mans problem for not stepping up to meet them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 09:27 PM
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Again, why? So I can get the "joy" of a female extracting from me while it fucks around to secure a better deal like it expects from me? Again, much better to be fucked than cucked
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 09:25 PM
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Yeah, not going to happen. Why would I? So I can be reprogrammed back into a compliant bitch that females expect so it can extract from me? Not a chance. Much easier to just lie to it about benefits it will get from me then fuck and chuck em. Making the mistake of thinking a female is capable of giving a shit about anything else is the downfall of many a men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 09:12 PM
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Only stupid men would want to deal with their shit. They aren't capable of morals or loyalty, the only thing they can do is sit back and demand it's outstretched hand be filled. I fail to understand why men are so willing to indulge females bullshit, I still don't know why I ever did
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 09:09 PM
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I'm saying it isn't that beneficial at all. A female is going to behave as females behave
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 09:03 PM
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There isn't one. RP isn't even that good because it's a way of minimizing risk of a female trading in when it doesn't get good enough benefits, but they still will seek that upgrade anyway. Female nature and behavior would have to change, but of course, that isn't going to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:59 PM
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Clearly you didn't pay attention to what was said. Not shocking as females are only capable of processing "what benefits do I get?" but if you check it again, you'll see something interesting tucked in there where I already addressed your stupid suggestion. I'm not counting on it though, again, what females are capable of understanding is quite limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:57 PM
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Well, you believe it's a fact. It's not a fact, and the belief that it is would make you more tolerant of bad behavior I don't believe it, I know it. Major difference. And I absolute do not tolerate bad behavior, therefore I do not tolerate females example? Literally every single thread
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:49 PM
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Woman, she. Seriously, it's not that hard. Females don't deserve to be held in the same regard as men, it's not that hard. Just because you had a bitter divorce, it doesn't mean your ex represents all women Yeah yeah yeah heard that before. All females are terrible when held to the same standards of morals and behaviors that men are held to. They are too primitive to handle that, that's why so many excuses are made for them, why men get to take the blame for how a female behaves etc etc. Never m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:47 PM
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I don't think that, I know that. Major difference. A female absolutely cannot give a shit about anything except how it is benefitted and how a man is useful to it. I had to learn this the hard way and wasn't ok with that but plenty of men are still stupid enough to think a female will actually give a shit about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:30 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:28 PM
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A human female isn't very cognitively different than a cat or an antelope outside of the capacity for language given its expectations of provision and lack of knowledge of right from wrong so does it actually matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:22 PM
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That's what females are. Denying this fact is simply delusion, and made even more funny by the fact that you certainly will later go on to defend its behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:12 PM
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it's always easier to blame someone else Like you're blaming men for the behavior of females?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:11 PM
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It's not belief, it's fact. It's what they are. A female CANNOT care about anything beyond what direct benefits it receives and how useful a man is to it. The daily defense of this shitty behavior here, and then turning around to deny it baffles me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 08:10 PM
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I'm not one of them. They're guys who understand what females are, and still think they're worth anything. that's just silly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 01:56 PM
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Correct. Females do not love men, they "love" men's usefulness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 01:51 PM
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Not in the least bit. I had to learn this the hard way and seeing females here deliberately lie to men to try and trick those poor bastards into being ATMs for them while they're off fucking others pisses me off
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 05:40 AM
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Yes you did, a female cannot care about anything beyond a mans usefulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 05:16 AM
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You just described AF/BB perfectly... One guy gets the pussy, the other guy gets to foot her bills and provide
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 02:58 AM
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Have to disagree. Slut shaming is the absolute only thing that can keep a female loyal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 02:56 AM
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The majority of men are fine with being cucked and treated as ATMs and of course females are more than happy to treat them this way as they aren't capable of giving a shit beyond benefits it receives. Just because it's "mainstream" doesn't make it ok hey realize that if people make fun of fat people it's not that they are jealous of their intelligence or just haters, but that there is something inherently wrong with being fat. BULL. SHIT. All the fucking time we get to hear how fat females are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 02:56 AM
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Because most women want an emotional connection to assess his usefulness and compliance first For gods sake, at least be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 02:50 AM
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Are they with every guy for emotional support and validation? Not just that. Females require material and financial support as well
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 02:35 AM
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Explain to me why commitment is not a good strategy for men by the way? In a relationship, you get way more sex than outside of one I presume. Females extract resources and benefits from men and use sex as a means of ensuring his compliance, so committing to it is pretty stupid for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 02:32 AM
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Having a one night stand with a guy who only wants you as a living fleshlight, how is that any better than sleeping with a girl who just wants you money? All females are only capable of caring about money or other benefits it gets from a man, so it deserves to only be treated as a living fleshlight
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 06:20 PM
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And women are supposed to feel overjoyed and grateful when a man figuratively puts a bag on their head and gives them a 10 second clinical pounding? That's all you deserve after trying to make us feel overjoyed and grateful with getting to provide for that trash while it goes off cheating in search of a better deal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 06:18 PM
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"No u" doesn't count for anything either. You're just avoiding having to answer for your entitlement, inherent immorality, and defense of shitty female behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 11:54 AM
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You're a female. That tells me enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 03:10 AM
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I am not giving you opinions. I am giving you facts. Flat denial is not a rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:42 AM
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A "good" female cannot exist. And I like how you chalk up bad female behavior just to male bitterness, kind of solidifies lack of female accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 02:41 AM
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Facts are facts and do not change. Period. You're still deflecting away from your explicit defense of shitty female behavior and laying the responsibility for how they are on me while disguising it as my "bad" attitude. Which again, this "bad" attitude is nothing more than recognizing what females are and how they behave
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:52 AM
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earned Been handed* FTFY Lack of female accountability isn't limited to the personal, men are forced to take the fall for females professionally as well. And if you're anything like other females (spoiler: you are) then it doesn't matter. What's yours is yours and what's his is also yours
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:49 AM
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Yes it is. No matter how often you lie and claim it isn't, it doesn't stop being true. And then immediately contradict yourself and hold me responsible for female behavior, and somehow claiming how they treat men is actually my responsibility. If you can't get your head around that, then shut the fuck up. A man is not responsible for female behavior, and if we have to do so much for them, then they could stand to at least make an attempt to learn basic morals, but you and I both know that just i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:47 AM
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Yes I do know it. youre still defending shitty female behavior unsurprisingly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:45 AM
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and really truly thinks no woman can be good I don't think this. I know this. MAJOR difference. Aren't you the one who was bitching about how terrible I was because I refuse to selflessly serve without question like a "good" man should? And whining that I had the audacity to refuse my responsibility for female behavior? Yeah that was you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:41 AM
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As for me, I'm happily married so I don't feel inclined to take the blame for the behaviour of others. Not others. You and how you treat him. It's not exactly a secret that females do nothing but sit back on their asses with an outstretched hand "allowing" men the chances to get to be useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:38 AM
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Oh bullshit. Don't make shit up and deflect away from female entitlement and take responsibility for your behavior for once
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 11:48 PM
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You can't argue with fact* That's what you are and there is absolutely no disputing it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:53 PM
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... I'm not following. That doesn't really contradict me at all, if anything it adds to what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:50 PM
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Because you things have the fucking audacity to whine and call it "male entitlement" and that there's a shortage of "good" men because not enough are willing to fill your outstretched hand with enough while you sit on your ass doing nothing but making even more demands
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:48 PM
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My offer to talk still stands just to show you I can be nice without some kind of incentive. The "incentive" isn't so much of incentive, just shock that a man could have the audacity to reject his responsibilities to provide a female with whatever it wants and take responsibility for how it behaves. Idc about your arguments right now because they're are based off of you're shitty experiences and not the entire female population. All females are the same, period. You are no exception. A female is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:21 PM
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You're no better than the women that fuck you over if you think all of them are like that. I am infinitely better. I'm actually capable of understanding right from wrong and am capable of doing more than sitting back with an outstretched hand. A female is not. If a conversation with a regular anonymous female who actually cares to help you, could change your mind about women, then I'd like to offer that. A female is not capable of giving a shit about anything except what benefits it gets. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 05:35 PM
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"no u" LOLOLOLOL SO FUCKING TRUE AMIRITE>?>??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 03:12 PM
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RPW is all about what YOU CAN DO to better your relationship or your chances of finding a mate by bettering yourself. Not really. It's about how to exploit men and lock down a BB to raise your bastards How are you going to act as if your entire gender is capable of loving another woman when you refer to one as "it"? Honestly, that's the nicest thing I can say about that fucking worthless leeching filth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 02:27 PM
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It says that what men want isn't worth what they give. But females give nothing, they just put their empty hands out and demand it be filled, so this is just stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 11:48 AM
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Not much. Just says how spoiled females are. Considering how much work is required from men while the female sits back with an outstretched hand, why on earth do they deserve EVEN MORE?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 02:42 AM
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Not even a little bit off topic. Females expect men to earn not being treated like shit, perhaps females could learn to actually do something for once besides sit back and simply expect the best for existing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 01:55 AM
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I wish more people would stop the women bashing nonsense on TRP Or... I know this is crazy, but females could try behaving better for once and earn it like they expect men to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 01:47 AM
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And when do men EVER maintain a relationship that doesn't benefit them at all? Literally all of them. Most men are just so whipped that they actually think getting to be useful to a female counts as having something done for him It doesn't happen that a woman sacrifices something out of fear that her man will leave her? Nope, females don't do this. If a man isn't useful or compliant, he's replaced. A female doing something for a man? Please. So women don't honor their promises (but men do)? Corr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 01:44 AM
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Exactly as I said. They are not capable of giving a shit about anything except what direct benefits they get immediately. They do not love, they do not care, they just take and demand more while doing nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:46 PM
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It's not negative, it's truth. I wish there was some way I could show you some good-hearted females Females arent capable of that. They only have the capacity to take and make demands. This fact isn't up for dispute or debate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:31 PM
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Doing something besides sitting back with an outstretched hand, being loyal, not being inherently selfish. But that's too hard for that trash
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:23 PM
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Still enabling that filths behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:22 PM
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Basically that, sure. Not quite, but pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:22 PM
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But what are my actual motives? If women are so inconsiderate, why do you think I care to investigate? I already told you retard. Shock and awe that a man would reject his obligations to females. I'm 26 from Southeast Texas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:41 PM
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Yeah yeah yeah anything females do is always justified blah blah blah blah fuck off white knight, not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:40 PM
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I'm looking for them to behave properly, but as long as "men" like you enable them, they won't. So fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:20 PM
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Alright, well life is gonna suck for you until you process and let go of your toxic anger. Or women could try behaving properly. Naw, not possible. Too much enabling them like what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 01:43 PM
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What do you think my motives are in talking to you? Shock that a man could have the audacity to reject his obligations to the "wonderful" female. But that maybe spans 50 women, maximum, out of 3.5 billion. What a shock, more excuses and defenses for that filth. You are filth too, there are no exceptions. You seem to expect me to believe that shit will somehow magically learn right from wrong and ditch it's innate selfishness despite the encouragement. And out comes the standard smug "you don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 11:54 AM
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It's "nonsense" to you because comprehending a female being held to real standards for once is impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 11:48 AM
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A female is fundamentally incapable of being great. You honestly expect me to believe that trash will just ignore its inborn selfishness and suddenly learn right from despite cradle to grave coddling and encouragement of whatever they want? Seriously? That worthless filth can't do that. I know because I used to have higher expectations of them, and holy shit did I fuck up bad. That subhuman trash absolutely cannot handle it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 11:47 AM
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Of course I don't. They aren't subject to the same standards of morality that adult men are, demand that they be absolved of responsibility for when they are inevitably shitty, yet expect to be taken seriously? K
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:21 AM
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You're disputing it, but you're wrong. That's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:18 AM
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Not at all. Your examples are silly as its easily disproven, and quite easy to show so. I wouldn't whine and bitch about it and then duck away when asked to show it. But when confronted with the ugly truth of what females are, that's exactly what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:17 AM
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That's what females are. There's no disputing that fact. It is a creature which fundamentally isn't capable of giving a shit about anything except for what benefits it gets. For starters, you could look at just this forum and the blue flairs arguing how unfair it is to hold women to actual standards because misogyny or something stupid. There's absolutely nothing out there on how females could treat men better, but plenty on what men are obligated to do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:15 AM
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Gold digger is a female who is open about it, normal females simply expect it without saying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:10 AM
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Yes, because it's extremely easy to prove. Getting mad about being called out for once isn't the same as it being wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:09 AM
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This new place called "planet earth"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:08 AM
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They have the capacity to be loyal and understand right from wrong. Doesn't mean they always do, just that they can
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 03:08 AM
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What we don't like is the needless anger and bitterness directed at over half of the population. Yeah and we don't like being treated as soulless ATMs who exist for females benefit, but nobody really gives a shit and says "suck it up and get back to it or you're a misogynist"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:16 AM
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Lots of wailing and gnashing of teeth beneath you, but no refutations. Telling isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:14 AM
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Why not? Nobody can explain why they deserve even nuetral feelings, let alone the adoration they demand as a basic for existence despite their shitty behavior. (by the standards of morals and behaviors that men are held to anyway, females don't understand right from wrong)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:09 AM
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Because females lie and rationalize. It isn't cheating if you just forgot to dump him first, or you were drinking, or if he did something to deserve it like not buy a purse for you that you wanted in their mind
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 02:07 AM
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This was a little over a month ago and I'm still having flashes of huge self doubt, depression and guilt about what I did and could have done better. This where you started lying again. There might have been some twinges of truth (such as "him being passive" meaning "not doing enough to fill my outstretched hand) but that's where it became total bullshit. A female CANNOT give a shit about anything except what direct benefits it gets. They can pretend to, usually to secure sympathy and other bene…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 07:56 PM
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:/ I pity the man who goes into a relationship thinking a woman's part is done by existing All women behave this way. There are no exceptions. Most are just so shitty and spoiled that they actually do believe that allowing a man more chances to be useful to her counts as active participation. A few are honest enough to straight up say this. One of the many reasons my partner and I separated is because all he did was exist and was so passive, when I did all the initiation of dates and conversatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 06:37 PM
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useful in terms of what? Anything. Provision, entertainment, support etc. another part of usefulness is ensuring he doesn't get uppity and expect anything other than her just showing up. Obviously a woman is sooooo wonderful that her part is done simply by existing. Ask her to do more? You're replaced buddy. You could go entirely cynical about all relationships, including friendships, and say that they are only based around what is useful, though It may be cynical, but that doesn't stop it from …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:51 PM
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I have been in one two-year relationship before, and I'm 99% sure what I felt was love He was useful to you and compliant. The man himself was completely irrelevant. That is a terrible mindset to have! All women believe this. This fact isn't up for dispute or debate. Many will lie about it to trick men into thinking they're different and thus making it easier to extract from the man, but should his usefulness wane, she gone to another dick. I think it may just be the women in your family and soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:21 PM
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Surely there's one woman who you think isn't about to go do a dick thing like cheat? Females fundamentally lack the ability to be loyal as they don't love men, they "love" the resources and immediate benefits given to them. Sisters, mothers, coworkers? No sisters, but two whipped pussy brothers who agreed with my mother, friends, therapists etc that it's a mans responsibility to be good enough to prevent cheating, so after each one, I brought it on myself. Even a cunt who was screwing a sugar da…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:40 PM
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It means that they aren't being given the perfect man that they're owed to be useful to them without reciprocation. "Loneliness" isn't a thing for women as they don't love men, they "love" the benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:32 PM
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If you buy into the NAWALT lie, that's how you get screwed even harder. "Oh she's totally different!... Aaaaand she's sucking off some random guy she met at a bar last night when she said she was too tired to do anything with me"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:26 PM
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Would women step up their game or become defiant and angry You know the answer to that. Females are fundamentally too selfish to understand they aren't owed whatever they want simply for existing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:24 PM
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or who thought yelling and shaming was an appropriate way to solve problems if she happened to be frustrated in a relationship, or who stopped being attracted to me if I showed weakness, or did any of the shit you characterize as AWALT, she would be out on her ear like that. Yeah that's just what they are though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:21 PM
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If I had a nickel for every time I heard that single women should lower their standards, I'd be a lot richer than I am now. That advice is everywhere Lmao. This has NEVER happened without at least 10 white knights and 20 women screeching about misogyny Women are bringing more to the table these days- we're able to make a living and still having the babies, still doing most of the housework, etc. And that's literally it. Still demand men make more money, make themselves useful at anytime with no …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:19 PM
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And rightfully so. A woman doesn't do anything besides sit back and make demands, so at the VERY least they should at least be good looking, because lifting a finger otherwise isn't an option
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:14 PM
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Not to mention objectively harder. "Don't be obese and cut back on the fucking cake" vs "spend hours a day lifting weights on a very carefully controlled diet"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:11 PM
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also women who want to take responsibility for their own actions because they are human beings who dont want to be treated differently than other human beings and want to live up to a standard of their own. Fundamentally impossible. They simply can't. This fact isn't disputable. How many people, even @ TRP, do you think will agree with you Not many. Even at TRP they still think that fucking garbage is worth dealing with, and general population of men are way too whipped to ever even come close t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 12:46 AM
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Women have to face the consequences of their actions sometimes, as all people d No they don't. There's always a man to take the fall, whether he wants to or not. but don't get yourself into this belief that because a person does not poses the Y chromosome, it means they are incapable of understanding ethics, morals, etc. This isn't belief, it is fact based on countless observations and none deviating from their shitty behavior, but it slides because men are conditioned to exempt that trash from …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 09:25 PM
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People sure, just people immune from the standards of ethics, morals and behavior that the ACTUAL people (men) are subject to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 09:12 PM
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Lol dumb bitch does expect me to just accept the wonderful female for the subhuman filth it is and get back to unquestioning service. Fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:30 PM
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Lol sure. Again, am I really supposed to believe they'll magically learn right from wrong and stop being selfish and shitty despite all the incentive and encouragement otherwise? That's asinine
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:22 PM
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Because there isn't any. A womans word is worth less than nothing. Its actions are all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:55 PM
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It's not a claim, it's a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:43 PM
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You sound completely ridiculous, you realized you just referred to another human ...infact half the human species...as an "it"... A female is trash that doesn't deserve to be in the same esteem as men. How can you be so spiteful? Because I'm not retarded and actually hold females to real standards for once in their worthless spoiled lives
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:02 PM
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A female is NOT capable of love. This fact cannot be disputed. A female is only capable of giving a shit about what direct benefits it gets
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:58 AM
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This doesn't sound at all like me infact I just fucked up earlier and apologized for it and realized I was wrong pretty easily Lol sure. The only time a woman an admit to being "wrong" is when she didn't do enough to punish a non compliant man or demand enough benefits. I never ask friends to talk when I want something out if them A) saying that B) being female Choose one. A female CANNOT, under any circumstances whatsoever, give a shit except for what benefits it gets And my boyfriend isn't whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:44 AM
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Yes, these things I also understand. Very well. The primitive female brain can't comprehend this. It is impossible, otherwise so much wouldn't be handed to them and great pains made to coddle them no matter what I've been held accountable for stuff, No you haven't, you've had excuses made for you and shielded. My boyfriend is very happy and has no bitterness in his life. You have a nice little whipped bitch who accepts his place. be very sad for you if I knew you in real life. Not because I pity…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 11:58 PM
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You are probably a great person and those women are at fault for not looking inside themselves, not you. But why should they? Holding those things accountable is strictly forbidden and our shitty gynocentric culture quite strictly enforced this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 11:50 PM
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you would reach inside yourself and try to figure out what you did to provoke the reaction and correct yourself if you find yourself at fault. Fuck off. I will NOT take responsibility for women's behavior ever again. Yeah, next time (which there won't be one, fuck providing for and working for that filth) I'll totally be sure to never wane in usefulness in any way, never expect any reciprocation, and bust my ass to get a 6 figure job because obviously my meager 55K wasn't enough to even impress …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 10:28 PM
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It's ignorant to believe that women would never be in a situation where they would learn otherwise. It is ignorant to believe all women desire to be selfish. It is ignorant to believe no women seeks self improvement. they just magically and spontaneously decide to ignore the encouragement down the easy path and willingly take the hard. Riiiiiiight. It is ignorant to believe that there are massive incentives and encouragement for women to be the worst version of themselves. Women are definitely c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 10:27 PM
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I'm ignorant if I make honest observations? I'm ignorant if I don't believe the fairy tale that women will somehow magically and spontaneously learn right from wrong and ditch their inherent selfishness despite all the incentive and encouragement otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 08:15 PM
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Yeah, that isn't possible. The female fundamentally lacks that capability. Look at this fucking sub, everywhere else, and the massive sociopolitcal movement dedicated to eradicating the last few pieces of accountability and responsibility women ever had
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 07:15 PM
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There are places where females can go to be held accountable for their actions and learn from them. lmao females learning from their mistakes instead of forcing men to take the heat for it. Literally has never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 05:51 PM
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You are completely wrong, but if you want to keep believing this, it's fine. Facts are facts and do not change out of convenience for you. Very similar to women who keep ending up in abusive relationships and eventually start to think all men are abusive. Men actually face responsibility and accountability. Females do not, your comparison is stupid. And a tiny minority of men are abusive, obviously since men are actually capable of understanding right from wrong, while females are too limited an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 05:24 PM
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Empathy. I am a very empathetic person so I will put myself in other people's shoes. If it's something that would hurt me, then I can assume it would hurt them. Do unto others as you'd do unto yourself, AKA the golden rule Impossible. You are a female. You lack the capacity to give a shit about anything except what direct benefits you get. There are no exceptions. It's just what you are. Education/upbringing. Between history, religion, and English classes there is plenty of themes of right verse…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 01:52 PM
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Right. Sure. You're talking to a man with wings. Again, you really expect me to believe that you just spontaneously develop a sense of right from wrong and ditch the inherent selfishness in the face of all the encouragement otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 02:17 AM
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Yeah, those with the capacity to not be selfish are called men. Sure, some still are, but that's better than we can say for women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 01:14 AM
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Literally nowhere does this happen outside of Cosmo, and even then, he has to "earn" it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 12:01 AM
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God almighty if this ain't the truth. I've been cheated on a shitload, and each time I got to get ripped by family, friends, and even a therapist because if she did that, the only reason could be that I wasn't good enough and didn't do enough and I brought it on myself. I actually bought that shit too for the longest time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 12:01 AM
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Prove it. You honestly expect me to believa you magically and spontaneously developed a sense of right from wrong and ditched your ingrained selfishness despite all the encouragement otherwise? Are you retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 11:57 PM
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Absolutely. Women DESPISE anything other than showing up and that being their contribution. Women believe men must work for them and deserve them and their very existence should be sufficient. Like you said, Healthy at every size, every woman is beautiful, blah blah blah, does any of this shit exist for men? Hell no. Don't mistake what I'm saying though. I don't want permission to be a gross fat fuck. It's well... Gross. Trust me, been there, still shedding it. I'd rather women do at least SOMET…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 11:49 PM
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No attraction, no mutual interests, different views on things. So there was nothing to salvage there except the fact that I had entered into a relationship knowing I wasn't attracted and hoping I could overcome my shallowness. I couldn't TL;DR he wasn't useful to me therefore I could do whatever I wanted And dude, I haven't cheated on my current or previous LTRs, with both exceeded 3 years. You sound like an ass You absolutely have. A female doesn't have the capacity for loyalty to men, only to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 11:44 PM
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I felt pretty horrible about having to put him through that pain been caught Went ahead and fixed that for you. What I learned was that I should have broken up with him before accepting any invitation from another man to be alone together. Right lol. Not that you should be loyal and work on things, but you should be cleaner about your upgrading to avoid feeling the sting of a tiny bit of accountability for what you do. Since that occurance I have not cheated on the next two LTRs I was in, includ…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 10:01 PM
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i never thought either option was good. Yeah. That's what I said. The original wasn't as good, you thought you could upgrade, turns out he wasn't good enough either and that's the only reason you are capable of understanding it as "wrong"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 06:03 PM
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Because the benefits you were to secure were t as good as the original. Women can't perceive right from wrong. That is the only reason you think it was shitty, not out of any concern for what you did to that poor guy, but selfishness
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 02:39 AM
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If you're a woman, no. You can only perceive it as "wrong" if the apparent benefits from the new guy weren't actually as good
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 02:26 AM
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Well yeah, men understand that. Women don't. They just do that because they have excuses made for them and aren't capable of loyalty to a man, only to the best benefits immediately available
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 02:23 AM
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Both aren't true. You absolutely have cheated, and you aren't capable of recognizing it was wrong because you'll always have excuses made for you and have a rationalization ready. So again, which one did you use?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 02:17 AM
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Ok, so you'd rather keep your excuses secret. I'm going to guess "you can't control what I do with my body, that's abuse" justification
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 01:51 AM
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It's also the truth. So which one do you use?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 01:41 AM
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Women don't understand right from wrong and there's always a justification for what they did. So which justification do you use when you cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 12:16 AM
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Yeah but some women have not had their disloyalty and immorality excused or celebrated Pretty much only in Saudi Arabia, Iran, and ISIS controlled territories. Western world? Fucking lol, women's immorality is celebrated daily and men who won't tolerate it are scorned and hated. I've been lucky to have learned right from wrong, and since I found RP a few years back, even further have opened my eyes to the wrong doing caused by most women. I don't believe that whatsoever. It isn't in a woman's ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 12:13 AM
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I agree, but the white knights aren't going anywhere and are growing in number by the day
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 11:51 PM
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Never been accountable...? Doesn't know right from wrong? Wants to "fuck around" because why not? This doesn't sound like me at all, no AWALT, all those things are just not true for all women, it's very weird for you to act like you know everyone when you don't. And especially an entire gender.... It is true, even of you. There are no exceptions. You're just incredibly skilled at rationalizing your bad behavior (bad by the standards men are held to) For example, most of my cheaters rationalized …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 11:49 PM
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Of course. But it doesn't. You honestly expect me to believe that's the case when their disloyalty and immorality is excused and often even celebrated? I've been lit up after every cheater of mine (8 total) by friends, family, etc because I obviously had it coming. The general population believes that women don't do bad things without a man deserving it, thus making it not bad all of a sudden. I wasn't good enough to prevent it, therefore I brought it on myself and I had no right to be upset wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 11:45 PM
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Calling it women for their shitty behavior NEVER ends well. For every man willing to say a woman did something wrong, a thousand white knights will reassure her that everything she does is a ok
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 11:37 PM
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The way women treat men in general is pretty shitty. Spot on, and this OP proves it. We have to earn from them what is absolute baseline minimum expected of all times from us? Fucking comical, women could try behaving properly on their own, but apparently can't
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 11:32 PM
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One of the "lessons learned" I see often on the Red Pill is AWALT, and that often comes with "unicorns don't exist", meaning, in RP context, that a woman who will love you for who you are and who will not cheat when given the chance, who will not leave you when you get emotional from time to time does not exist This is objective truth, and you accidentally prove yourself wrong in attempting to dispute this ironically enough. Your long diatribe here can be boiled down to "men are responsible for …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 11:30 PM
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Ah this usual deflection. Not interested in indulging your nonsense, but just screaming "YOU DONT KNOW EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SHITLORD SO YOU DONT KNOW FOR SURE DESPITE ALL THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTING SO" doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 11:23 PM
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No because I've experienced it over and over again. There's always an excuse or defense for them no matter what they do. So it's asinine to think they'll develop loyalty or knowledge of right from wrong when exempted from morality and accountability for how they behave. Why not fuck around to secure an even better deal than what you have now if supported and encouraged to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:37 PM
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...yes, that is what I said. What the fuck are you doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 04:06 AM
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Yes... That is what I said. I don't like it and think women should behave properly in the first place rather than making men "earn" what men are expected to do always, but they can't do that, and even if they could, too many white knights would never allow that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 04:01 AM
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I do completely. They want us to pretend they're equal to us while still exempting them from the responsibilities and morals that men are bound to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:59 AM
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...yes. That is what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:58 AM
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Lol female loyalty being a thing. That's adorable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:42 AM
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No. Men are actually capable of understanding right from wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:41 AM
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Yes... That's what I said. I don't see your point in repeating me without adding anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:40 AM
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They are. We learn this when we give them the equality they claim to want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:39 AM
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...Yes? That is what I said. It's a mans responsibility to be good enough to deserve a woman behaving morally rather then women behaving morally in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:38 AM
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Bigger muscles OR more money, but preferably both. It's what women do. Wherever the best benefits are is where they go, and men get to take the blame for not being good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:50 AM
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It is the natural result of holding them to the same standards of morals and behavior one would hold a man to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:39 AM
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maybe some portion of men have experienced love the way they would expect from a woman They're tricked into thinking they are so those men will continue to supply resources and benefits. The instant a better deal comes along, she'll ditch him and he'll get to shoulder the blame for "not being good enough" and the precious princess did nothing wrong of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:37 AM
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You have to understand that women don't believe they get passes for bad behavior because they don't understand right from wrong. They believe that whatever they do is automatically right because a woman did it. You'll never get them to understand. Most men bend over backwards to cover for them because they subconsciously know that they simply can't meet the same standards of morals and behaviors men are held to, but rather than treat them as the mentally stunted children they are, most men indul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:33 AM
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Growing up, I was never indoctrinated into some "women are saints" trope You absolutely were, but have never bothered to stop and question it because of how greatly you benefit from getting to do whatever you want and men "getting" to take the heat for whatever shit you do to them. Frankly, I'm sick of seeing women get defended in any capacity after the shit I've been put through and then blamed for because obviously precious m'ladies can't do wrong. You're immune from consequences, accountabili…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:31 AM
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Yeah. And that's what I see. Not just me either, far from it. I've never seen a woman exhibit this mythical "reciprocation" business and give a shit about anything but what they get, but they insist they do. Now I understand it's because women think simply showing up and allowing him chances to do and be useful for her counts as doing something for a man, we should just be grateful for their blessed presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 12:07 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 11:54 AM
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They absolutely do not, what are you talking about? It entirely revolves around what he has to do to deserve her presence and what is an acceptable minimum level of benefits to extract. It's absolutely everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 02:41 AM
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Blues live in the universe where women are not attracted to power or masculinity, where a genuinely emotional, sensitive man has no problem getting laid And the dumb bastards who believe that find themselves walking in on his girl who just loves him so muuuuuuch getting railed by Chad. And then he gets blamed for it because he obviously didn't do enough and that's why he got cheated on, because he had it coming and needed to be taught a lesson, and even a therapist says all relationship problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:58 AM
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It is absolute fact, how anyone can dispute this is beyond me. Again, where are the advice columns and guides for women on how to properly treat men that aren't screamed down as oppressive misogyny? Fucking nowhere, that's where, but we get to be bombarded with why women are owed the best simply for existing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:46 AM
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What's asinine about the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 01:18 AM
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I'm not sure how it's possible to dispute that women only care about what benefits they get when all advice to men outside of TRP revolves around what to do to make women happy and the advice for women is what to expect from men and how to tell if he's worthwhile
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 12:41 AM
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Certainly more than a bag or a car, he's a means of acquiring that bag and car. So more than an accessory, but not much more. Women only "care" about men as long as he has enough direct tangible use to her. If he doesn't do enough, he doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 12:06 AM
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Which women cannot do as they are only interested in what benefits they get. I had to learn this the hard way many many times over before it finally sank in, you're deliberately lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 10:55 PM
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Pro tip: being allowed more chances to make yourself useful to them doesn't count as reciprocation. Once I figured that out, I saw just how many of them actually reciprocate: zero
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 10:54 PM
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No, but with a woman it is impossible. A woman fundamentally is incapable of giving a shit beyond what direct benefits she receives. A "friend" is just a source of benefits she doesn't fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 10:52 PM
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In fact, they constantly make a point of saying that women do not deserve to be treated as well as your bros, that they deserve to be treated with disrespect and lied to, used, and thrown away. I'd agree with this, and it's because I hold women to the same standards I hold men to. Turns out women can't handle things like responsibility, accountability, morality etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 10:38 PM
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Misogyny is simply the natural result of holding women to the same standards of morals and behavior hat men are held to. How often do we hear how today's men are terrible because they won't commit immediately and provide without question like they should? How often do we get it beat into our heads what women deserve from men? All the goddamn time How often do we hear how women should be good to men? Not A Fucking Word So given that women expect everything and do nothing, nobody can actually say …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 10:03 PM
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That's kinda dark bro
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 04:09 PM
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Again, you do not take responsibility for yourself That's big disconnect here. You believe that a man is obligated to take the blame and responsibility for the behavior and actions of women. You view it as a mans responsibility. I refuse to do that anymore. I used to, I took the blame and took the heat like a "good" man should. I wasn't good enough, I fucked up, I deserved it because women mistreat men only when they deserve it. I get it, that's what you expect men to believe and are shocked tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:26 AM
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You won't take responsibility for yourself but you are very good at the mental gymnastics to convince yourself you have. It would be impressive if it wasn't so sad. Again, I will not take responsibility for the behavior of women no matter how much women demand that. There is no reason whatsoever to do so. You are proving me right. Women cannot comprehend right from wrong and expect men to be responsible for the actions of women. I refuse to do that. I might consider it if women stop pretending t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:03 AM
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Right, and now women want the same level of protection and provision but without having to do anything to earn or deserve it, they simply are owed it for existing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:16 AM
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You don't know anything but what you have seen in a couple of situations. Again, literally all. I have never seen one behave otherwise and it's damn foolish to think they'll magically learn right from wrong and how to do something besides sit back and take. This part is funny to me, you pretty much admit that the women in your life did this to you, so it is ok for you to do it back as if two wrongs make a right More or less, yes. I refuse to supplicate them anymore. They're used to being able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:15 AM
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you say you have balls for telling the "truth" but in reality you are so afraid of being proven wrong or having your heart broken again that you refuse to escape from this hole you have dug yourself in to Afraid? No, I'd welcome it. But it can't happen. Other men are satisfied with supplications the brats and are grateful just to be allowed in their blessed presence. I'm not. I made the mistake of ever asking a woman to do more than that, and I was put in my place repeatedly before I finally und…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:58 PM
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Yet again a woman can put effort in to a relationship No they cannot. They are too primitive to understand anything beyond "what do I get out of this?" and only view men as utilities. Consider yourself lucky most men are ok with this. I love how you pretty much say all abuse is faked. Not all, just a sizable majority. To a woman, truth is immaterial. Since they don't understand right from wrong, they'll lie about absolutely anything to either secure benefits or punish a man who failed to adequat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:36 PM
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Women have always been provided for and protected since human civilization began. Women's "issues" have always been having to do something that merits that protection and provision rather than simply being given it. And when men do try to do something about it, were shouted down as shitty misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:07 PM
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Again, truth is truth. Yeah it's sad, I wish it wasn't, but that's what women are. Absolutely no exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:00 PM
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"lol loser can't get laid" "Don't be condescending!!!1!1!1!!1" This is why women's words are worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 03:53 PM
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For a relationship to work properly both sides have to put in some effort or else it is unhealthy and one sided. That is life. A woman cannot do this. Period. What a woman considers "her part" is "showing up and giving him chances to work for her" ionship and I never once expected anything more than that and you say I was only in it for what he could give me? Really? Yes, really. I've learned the VERY hard way through myself and other friends that the majority of "abuse" claims are made up, usua…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 03:52 PM
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I had trouble with them when I actually believed their words. A woman's word is completely worthless. They are only capable of giving ng a shit shot what benefits they are given, sorry sweetie, you're no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 03:29 PM
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This is extremely obvious by the amount of work women have to do to look good for men, Kek. No woman does anything of the sort. Work? Please. It's as simple as not eating too much cake but even that's deemed too oppressive and we have the body positivity shit for women to shame men into being ok with obesity, but they still better be ripped
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 03:28 PM
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It's also completely true. Believe it or not, some of us are starting to realize how shifty of a deal it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 03:25 PM
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If they really love a guy they will love him for who he is and not for how big his wallet is. They just want to spend time with him and do things for him. Sure, in theory. But they can't, it's just not what they are I've never had to offer women anything except for the possibility to be close to me. That's your perception you happily accept the work and "opportunity" to be useful. I think it's fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 03:24 PM
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Because a woman's word is worthless, full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:38 AM
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Actually interacting with them and disregarding their words and watching their actions
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:27 AM
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Because that is really inaccurate in a lot of situations. I do admit some women only view men as a way to get what they want. No, it is all. They simply cannot care about anything else. Again, only controversial when said in these terms, but everyone knows how much harder men have to work for relationships while women select. It's just few are willing to admit why. There have been situations where a man has basically tricked me in to thinking he loved me so he could get exactly what he wanted. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:26 AM
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Lol right. Women "love" men so much, they let us work our asses off for them while sitting back with an outstretched hand demanding it be filled. Women do not love men and are not loyal to men whatsoever, but they need us to think they are so we'll keep providing for them and being useful
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:15 AM
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I am a girl who tends to be quite different than the AWALT point of view so I like showing it. They all say this. They're all lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:05 AM
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Of course women don't love men. This isn't really controversial. They "love" the best deal they get, whichever man has the right combination of usefulness and good looks. This is extremely obvious with how much work men have to do... To get the chance to do more work for women who sit back with an outstretched hand expecting to be sufficiently impressed. How is it possible to conclude women love men when they don't do anything but evaluate how useful he is to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:47 AM
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Yes. Women are loyal to resources and the usefulness of men, not the men themselves. They do not love, they select the best deal for them. This isn't really controversial given how lopsided relationships are from the very beginning, which almost everybody knows, but very few actually say why this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:43 AM
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Bullshit. The "body acceptance" movement is entirely for women. Women hate work but demand the best of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 03:54 AM
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Men are not responsible for the actions of women no matter how often you demand it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 03:50 AM
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White knighting is a MASSIVE problem. I've found that women simply don't understand right from wrong because they always have swarms of knights ready to coddle and defend them no matter what kinds of things they do. And I used to join that crowd too, and sadly it took me being on the wrong end of that white knighting repeatedly before it finally sunk in just how much of a problem it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 11:14 PM
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They are even angrier because most women, do not show sympathy for their issue...and I argue it's because women have been judged on their looks from day 1. It's also FAR easier to be considered attractive physically for women. Unless you're disfigured in some way, just put down the cake. It's that easy. So me personally, and I can speak for other men I know, it's maddening you would dare compare "not eating cake" v "2 hours a day of strength training and conditioning plus careful dieting in addi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 11:05 PM
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