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Well, this isn't the equivalent. Misandrists say "men do ___." So the actual equivalent would be a woman going to the pool and a lifeguard saying to her "you need to not run, women usually run at the pool."
/r/EverydayMisandry19/01/25 05:09 AM
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The equivalent would actually be a lifeguard saying "women always run at the pool."
/r/EverydayMisandry19/01/25 05:01 AM
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and the majority of women who commit murder usually do so as a defense against men who have been battering them for years. Ninety percent of the women in jail for murder are incarcerated for killing male batterers. My ex wife also tried to lie that I was abusing her after she made an attempt in my life. It's crazy that we just believe whatever lies a murderer comes up with just because they're women. The fact is, a dead person can't tell their side of the story, so of course they're going to lie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/24 04:28 AM
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She thinks men only care about sex and that you should be grateful that a women would ever let you touch her with your penis. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:29 AM
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And if you do, your not allowed to change your mind about her. Because then she'll retcon her reality and you were "just using her for sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:09 AM
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Idk what that has to do with anything...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:02 AM
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Every woman on reddit regards herself as "attractive". One women I actually struck up a conversation with ended up sending me a picture of her. She was, to put it plainly, ugly. Not just not attractive, but ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:19 AM
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my colleagues were collecting donations to help her pay for repairs. Why pick a better guy to have kids with when everyone else will do his job for him...
/r/MensRights17/01/24 12:07 AM
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Oh, honey. If you think women don’t also have a rotation … What does this have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 09:01 AM
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A harem is clearly defined as multiple women sleeping with one man. Show me a source that doesn't include that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 08:56 AM
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They're just being dishonest to shift the blame so you don't think they rejected you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 06:31 AM
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And that's how the red pill works...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:29 AM
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To be fair, I've discovered that most people in general aren't relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:27 AM
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You don't get to redefine terms to fit your desired reality. Modern dating means most women are part of a harem unless they're in an exclusive relationship with a man. Them seeing other men does not disqualify them from the definition of "harem". The person I was responding to was almost certainly using the word harem as shorthand for claiming that women are not interested in being part of a mans rotation of sexual partners and that's just flat out the opposite of how dating works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:03 AM
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The statement I was responding to was "women are not willingly sharing a single partner(a harem)". Talking about if they are seeing other men is irrelevant to the point I was responding to. Let's stay on topic. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:59 PM
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So what is it then if we're not exclusive? What would make a harem different is the definition is "a group of women sharing a single mate"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:56 PM
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"They're not sharing a single sexual partner, they're just sharing a single sexual partner."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:51 PM
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Harem is defined as: a group of females sharing a single mate. It's a harem in the most literal sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:25 PM
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I don't participate in serious LTR's and only enjoy casual sex. And I won't lie to women. I usually am seeing at least 2 women and they all know I'm seeing other women. Join the rest of us in the real world miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:07 PM
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You know they'll give anyone extra sauce if they just ask, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 10:44 PM
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Same. I never wanted to get married, but after a stint of seeing how many married women I could sleep with I decided dating isn't even a good idea. It's all an utter waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 10:42 PM
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You and I both know the rules. Women will share a HVM and look the other way at cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 10:41 PM
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I know no one that cheats. You just don't know that they're cheating. I have a married friend that hates her husband. When I first started being friends with her she said she would never cheat, eventually the trickle truth came out that she's been hooking up with one of our coworkers. I didn't believe that she never cheated in the first place, I just accepted her answer because I figured she wasn't going to be open about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 10:25 PM
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It was a joke, but if you showed up and it was clear that the man put equal effort into his appearance as you, would you be okay with splitting the bill?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:00 AM
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So it really is just about not wanting to go Dutch
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:31 PM
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So if you show up and see a guy with his hair done, a manicure, and make up, you're cool with going dutch?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:11 PM
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Hi, I've been a single father since my 9 year old was 11 months. Having a kid is only a two person job when 1 parent is completely incompetent or just can't hack it mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:06 PM
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My man, you need to come back to reality. 😂 Some women are just desperate for attention and validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:00 PM
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Listen, I'm telling you this because I've been through this myself the same as you. Some women will flirt, lie, and compliment you just to get validated by you when in reality they aren't even attracted to you. When women are genuinely interested in you, they aren't ghosting you after they give you their number. Those women that did that are just looking for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:20 PM
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The question is if you attempted to sleep with this woman and were rejected in this hypothetical or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:04 AM
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I don't care if she's sleeping with other dudes for that week or two. So in this hypothetical situation, you don't desire to sleep with this woman yet? Am I under that correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:18 PM
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Thanks for being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:12 PM
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There is an angle thing that men don’t seem aware of, but women know all about. Then why all the stories about how men can't make a woman orgasm when it's as simple as saying "tilt it up a bit" or "let me put this pillow under me real quick"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:00 PM
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They left their numbers so you could stroke their ego by texting them. They weren't attracted to you or else they wouldn't have ghosted. It's a pretty simple concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:49 PM
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many of them like it from attractive men with no intention of hooking up with them I got news for you, many women just like attention from any guy. If they're actually attracted to you, they aren't ignoring you after they get your number...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:36 AM
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What does grain have to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:16 AM
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That's what they claim, at least. If I was married and found my wifes reddit account and she was posting stuff like what I see on here, I don't know what I'd do. The behavior I see from these women is not the behavior of someone happy with their life/relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:28 PM
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The women here are equally as bitter, jaded, and hurting as the men. That's why they come here, to take it out on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:24 PM
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The majority women and men on here are two sides of the same coin. Both camps claiming they're right about the other while being equally resentful and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:20 PM
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What does the label matter when he's walking the walk? She sees who he is and how he acts. What does saying "I'm a redpill man" change?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:14 PM
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I find that some of the ideas presented are so far away from what is actual truth or can be easily disproven. You find that the ideas presented here aren't the truth for you. All of my beliefs and opinions I share here are from my real life experiences with the many women I've interacted with throughout the years. Many different types of women too. You are one woman, claiming that just because you don't behave a certain way thay other women don't. I've met women that don't exhibit behaviors that…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:11 PM
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I'm aromantic for starters, so I never really desired relationships like most people. But aside from that, I have hobbies. I look at relationships more pragmaticly. Even if I'm interested in a woman, I still look at it as her being cute and having a nice personality as not enough. Women have to earn my commitment, there is no unconditional love in romance. Most women don't have what it takes to earn it. They either don't put any effort in or they're not my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:07 PM
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Just look atbthe attitude and bitterness from a lot of the women commenting on this subreddit man. They're seething. A real deep seated misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:55 AM
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On top of them could mean anything Did you read the same comment I did? Christ. Be real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:51 AM
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Women. Do. Not. Want. Meaningless. And. BAD. Casual. Sex. (usually prefaced by terrible conversation skills that are one sided too). Except most of them do and have no issues compartmentalizing it as "I'm just getting laid and he's hot"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:49 AM
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Man, 99% of the women you will ever be romanticly interested in eagerly have casual sex with men they're attracted to. The best you can do is not waste time with women that give you less than that. Not because you're owed sex, but the lack of it after date 2 says all you need to know about how attracted she is to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:45 AM
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Yes. A few years ago. I'm strictly a casual sex/fwb person. Press me for anything more serious and you'll be dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:15 AM
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You don't know what "on top of" means? Or are you being obtuse because you want to argue with someone about whether or not what they experienced is valid? Hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:10 AM
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In your honest opinion, do you think it's not being dishonest to try and put on a facade to someone your trying to have a relationship with that you're not "easy" when in reality you are? Why would you want to date a man that if they knew what you were actually like, they would be turned off?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:58 AM
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Men will wait for their dream woman but not for a woman they don’t care about. I don't know any man that would do this, tbh. But the "fuck someone they don't have feelings for" is accurate. Theirs a lot of logical problems with your assertion that men "would wait" for their dream woman, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:48 AM
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Huh? That makes no sense. How does “refusing to sleep with” even occur in your view? I have never refused to sleep with someone I wanted to date on the first date - literally had zero opportunities where that would transpire. If I have to refuse sex, then there probably won’t be a second date I suspect. This is my mistake. I assumed since you were responding to the question I asked of the other person that your circumstances were identical to theirs. My question aren't applicable to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:46 AM
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I'm not contesting that men have sex with women and then ghost, your understanding of why men do this is flawed. It's not at all what you claim and it's got nothing to do with some "switch" flipping in their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:42 AM
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Ooooh. I think I get it. Women will have casual sex with men when they don't care what they will think. But will make a guy they see real potential with wait so as not to come across as "easy"? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:35 AM
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That is not the question I asked. And it's also not true, but please answer the question I actually asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:28 AM
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So do you inform all men that you refuse to sleep with that it's personal to them and that under other circumstances, you'd be okay with hooking up on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:24 AM
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So women refuse to sleep with a man they're interested in dating because she's not sexually attractive to them? That's kinda the thing with men not dating women they sleep with. Because they're not emotionally attracted to them. So to clarify, that's what your explanation is for women not sleeping with men they intend on starting a committed relationship with?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:22 AM
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So, I assume you know that if a guy you were on date #5 with found out you don't make some guys wait that long, he wouldn't look upon that favorably. What's your thoughts on the guys feelings in this situation? Do you take that into consideration?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:59 AM
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Great, what's your reason for replying yourself then? Are you her alter ego?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:31 AM
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As a man I can tell you that you have a fundamentally flawed understanding of the concept you just described.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:30 AM
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Let her answer the questions I'm asking her...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:28 AM
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Because I don’t have a ton of hangups about casual sex But you do when it's casual sex with someone you desire in a romantic sense? idk I see the same behavior from men and I’d imagine it’s similar Not understanding exactly what behavior your talking about, can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:24 AM
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Sex makes things complicated Her statements about casual sex with other men are contradictory to this statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:23 AM
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Meanwhile I wouldn’t have sex with someone I want commitment from when it’s not clear what they want bc why would I hurt myself like that What would hurt you about doing this though? And why doesn't it hurt to casually sleep with someone you're not romantically attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:15 AM
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The question was why do you refuse to have sex with a guy you like, but will quickly sleep with one you don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:02 AM
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I don't do that and that was a genuine question... what's the rationale behind that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:01 AM
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How do you rationalize having sex with men you don't like but refusing to have sex with men you do like?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 02:59 AM
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See my new comment. I fixed it. But to answer you question, I'm in my mid 30's, was married at one point, didn't like it. Had a few LTR's in my 20's after my divorce, never felt right. Realized in my 30's I'm aromantic and it all made sense. Dating is rough, you're going to get hurt. That's just part of life you have to accept
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 01:56 AM
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I'm fortunate because I don't have any desire for long term, serious, exclusive relationship. I enjoy being alone, I entertain the occasional FWB and hook up. I can't imagine how it would be to date as a man without being completely ignorant to reality. Why is she even dating me? Is she? Unless it's been a few months and a discussion about exclusivity, she's not. You're just getting to know each other. I have to be perfect; one mistake and she’s gone. You don't. You just have to be "her type" an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 01:53 AM
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relationships with men who are not rich, who aren't the most handsome, You have a friend dating a handsome broke guy, and a friend dating an average looking rich dude. You don't know any one dating an average looking guy with average financial situation and a charming personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:49 PM
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Nice. A bunch of questions, no valid rebuttal. We're done here. You're done. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:09 AM
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Never heard a woman say a guy broke up with them. It's always "we broke up". Most of the guys I know say "she broke up with me" when they get dumped. You're living in a fantasy land brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 02:37 AM
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Honestly, when have you ever heard a women say "he left me because I messed up"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:48 AM
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There is really no good explanation for a woman not showing equal interest and equal effort at all stages of the courting process. "She just isn't that interested" don't waste time with women that aren't interested. "She might just not be good at showing it/communicating it" she's lacking the absolute most basic skills to maintain any kind of human relationship, don't waste your time. There is NO positive outcome for pursuing someone who does reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:10 AM
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So they are showing you they appreciate you? Then what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:48 AM
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It seems like it's not ideal, that she didn't just fall head over heels for you. Nobody expects this from a person. The bare minimum is putting in effort to show someone your into them. You're arguing in bad faith when you provide a false dichotomy by saying someone is either in love with you or your only interactions with them are "getting to buy them food" while they act disinterested. There is a massive grey area. Between those two unreasonable behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:48 AM
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You're not getting any gratification in a relationship either. What's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:44 AM
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Recognize that even in a relationship, you're not getting your needs met so you might as well enjoy the freedom of being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:32 AM
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Fuck this is depressing. "Once you've done enough things for her, you can get a few crumbs".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:30 AM
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"Dressing up nicely" is not showing appreciation for another person. It's merely showing a desire to look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:23 AM
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Hi, I'm a man and what insignificant amount of value I place on a womans looks has zero dependence on wether she spends an hour on make up or not. The only expectation I have of a women is that the aren't dressed like shit. Show up barefaced even.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:21 AM
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You have a choice to be single my friend. It's a good choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 12:57 AM
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I've never really been interested in LTR's, but especially the past few years something has changed an the women I meet just aren't that interesting and don't put in any effort. If we aren't fucking, we aren't talking. That's my rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:45 AM
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That's not what the "guidelines" as you call them say...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:53 AM
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Your comments have become irrelevant to the subject if this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:50 AM
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Why are you guys even dating women who get "turned off" by your emotions? We aren't dating any women, ltr's aren't recommended. "She's not yours, it's just your turn."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:44 AM
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They strongly believe that "stop feeling emotions" is a solution for every problem. This is a misunderstanding. Redpill theory says to understand that other people, especially women, don't care about your emotions. Redpill advocates for confiding in close friends and expressing your emotions to other men because in general the rest of society doesn't care and many women will be put off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:44 AM
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Redpill theory isn't widespread enough to be the cause of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:38 AM
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I'm aromantic. I don't want a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:31 AM
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Surely there's more context needed for this situation because planning a date and then giving a specific date and time is foolish most of the time because you don't even know if that person is available.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:26 AM
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I can't imagine what it's like viewing sex solely as a means to an orgasm. I have casual sex only and avoid ltr's, but an orgasm is hardly what I desire out of sex. It's just a perk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:27 AM
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Exactly. I can understand having a fantasy and daydreaming about it, but a lot of women genuinely believe this is how they will meet "the one" and it's pretty weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:20 PM
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Who wants a SO that doesn't do normal adult things?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:45 AM
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So at no point does TRP advocate cheating? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:44 AM
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Nothing wrong with that Either. I have a female friend that invites me over for meals occasionally. It's wild that a platonic friend thinks nothing of cooking for me but women I've dated usually think they're too good for it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:39 AM
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You would think, but apparently from experience a lot of us feel that our expectations are too high. 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:04 AM
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"Meet cute" is a really common phrase. It's the scenario of two people starting a romantic relationship by some kind of quirky or endearing interaction at an unconventional location as opposed to finding someone on a dating app or bar or the usual place people look for "romantic partners." A "gym meet cute" would be meeting the love of your life after he caught your struggling on your last rep and ran over to spot you, and then they lived happily ever after.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:37 AM
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This id 100% true. A lot of men aren't very attractive and don't get approached at all and they think that women just don't do that. It's not true at all. If a woman finds you attractive, they will approach and they will make it clear you should ask them out
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:31 AM
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The risks really outweigh the rewards lately. Maybe not real risks, it might even be rare but guys see videos of men on tiktok getting shamed publicly, guys DMs getting screenshot and posted online, stuff like that and now they know that if the woman they're approaching happens to not be interested, there's a chance they'll not only deal with rejection, but be shamed for it publicly and then mocked by other women. It was always like that. Used to be all you risked was "no" or coming home with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 01:25 AM
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The fact that she already cheated once, and that despite never finding evidence of any infidelity on your phone every time she goes through it she still continues to be distrustful would make me concerned that she's the one being unfaithful and her insecurities are projection...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 10:36 PM
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Dude i am a research scientist and i read scientific papers on mating dynamics, Not doing a lot to make that sound like a credible claim... you keep linking me to worthless charts. Those don't mean anything. Anyone can make a chart. You effectively sent me a meme and said LOOK AT THE DATA
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:11 PM
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I'm supposed to ignore everything I know about my girlfriend Everything you think you know. You only have what she's told you. All the rest of us know how frequently people lie just to make themselves look favorable to someone. We're all just trying to warn you because we've all been you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:57 PM
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Leaving a comment saying "how about 5 lifetime" whatever is not "real world data". You're not even good at understanding data that's presented to you because you don't even take into consideration the methods used to collect it, or wether or not the questions being asked on surveys and the answers being given actually support the conclusion you've come to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:53 PM
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You have a garbage picture with garbage data. "Preferred sexual partners" is a worthless metric. Asking people "how many partners would you prefer over the next 30 years is an absurd question to begin with. Ask me that and I couldn't even give you an answer. If you were collecting data and pressed me for one I'd just make something up. What a bunch of people claim is their "Preferred number of partners over 30 years" has no bearing on how they will actually live their lives and conduct themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:54 AM
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Comments like this make me realize just how out of touch and naive some of the users on this sub are. Really can't take any of them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:57 AM
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None of your comments are coherent then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:29 AM
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First date was a feeler, and she was a hardcore religious person at the time. She broke out of her shell with me. Considering she was fucking other men and she made you wait until date 5 I don't think her being religious was a factor. Another case of the nice guy having to earn it while she goes to some other studs house after your first few dates. 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:14 AM
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I asked why she refused. You're trying to act like you went 5 dates without wanting to sleep with her. You didn't want to sleep with her on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:05 AM
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Why did she refuse to sleep with you during that time?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:00 AM
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I’ve also been on the other end slowly courting someone (still had a FWB or two of my own during this process) and little by little we both stopped seeing our FWBs and hopped into a relationship. The weird part is her being loyal to her fwb while she was dating you... that's hardly a rational behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:59 AM
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Redpill theory is a reaction to dating realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:19 AM
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So 100% of surveys and research should be thrown out because none of them surveyed 100% of the female population?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:09 AM
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It's a bold face lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:52 AM
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Men, read this comment and understand that any women that views sex with you as demoralizing is not to be considered for relationships. You should not be okay with pursuing someone who thinks like this about having sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:25 AM
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This is fucked up. It's the standard MO of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:22 AM
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But I suppose me switching up when I'm going to be a fuckboy vs a sweetboy could also be construed as dysfunctional behaviour. No. It's not. Sometimes I think the solution is to hard commit to the sweet man I actually want to be at heart, and screen hard for equally sweet women who'd appreciate that. They don't appreciate it the way you want. But at the same time, it's so easy to deploy the RP tactics that make so many women pine for you, you feel like a fool not to use them. Redpill theory isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 12:21 AM
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They don't do this because they're evil, like dudes on this sub want to believe, they do this because they sort guys into different categories based on their behaviour, Regardless of the intention, it's still super disfunctional behavior. Regardless, this comment is 100% facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:51 PM
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Big BPD vibes with the freak out about the other women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:49 PM
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To put it plainly, just because a woman isn't having sex with, doesn't mean she's celibate. Not all, but the overwhelming majority of women have a guy that they have no strings attached sex with on a somewhat regular basis. If you get past the 2nd date without sex, it's because she's being loyal to her "fuck buddy" until she thinks you've "earned" it to have sex with her. And by "earned" i mean, that she feels confident that you won't ghost after sex. It's not advisable to try to date someone do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:47 PM
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Because they're not looking for hookups, they have a solid reliable FWB so they're not interested in sleeping with men from tinder. That niche is already being filled. They're looking for a serious boyfriend to take things slow with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:03 PM
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Dating apps are brutal. Bumble will get you filtered out. If your height is 5'6" on bumble, women won't even see you. 50% have been apps, maybe. A couple have been women I've met IRL at social gatherings, the other maybe 35% have been random instances of chatting up women on instagram or Facebook or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:16 PM
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I don't believe you. I have no reason to lie. You think I'm lying about having sex with women most people would find unattractive? What do you count as casual sex? Sex with someone I'm not in a committed relationship with, it's a phrase with a very well established definition. There's nothing to debate here. Are you getting laid every weekend? Or twice a year? Sometimes every weekend, sometimes a few times a year. Sometimes I have a rotation, sometimes I take a break for a few months. You're foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:07 PM
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It really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:52 PM
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I'm 5'5". I am not above average in looks. Period. Some women even find me ugly and have outright told me so. But having casual sex with women I find attractive has never been difficult. Are they what most guys would consider "hot"? A handfull of them. But I think most of them would be considered average or even below average. But they're all attractive to me. Are they still able to hook up with men that are more attractive than me? Yes. And they do. I don't care because I'm still getting the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:50 PM
1

So you think putting on an alpha male act is not manipulation? The redpill doesn't teach this. This isn't relevant to this discussion. You're asking me to defend an erroneous statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:38 AM
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I'm talking about the act. The redpill does not tell men to "pretend". So now that we've cleared that up, do you have any real issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:32 AM
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EDIT: OP changed the verbage in their comment after I replied. Becoming a more attractive person is now manipulation? This comment really needs no response. Wow. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:21 AM
2

Manipulate their own self-image into becoming something you are not just to get laid? What specific things are you calling "manipulation"? Can you give examples of actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 01:02 AM
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Have you considered that you keep meeting these women is because of the environment you chose to be in? Like bars, nightclubs, parties or other hedonistic social gatherings? Weird response. Not applicable to me. Why would you ask me if I considered it was because of the environment I choose to be in, and then not allow me to answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:55 AM
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This only is evidence that these women haven't had a better option become available to them. It's still in their nature to leave their husband for a better option, they just haven't had that option present itself. AWALT isn't "All women will do that" it's "all women are like that." Meaning, all women display these traits or have the capability of acting this way. Not that all women will do these things for certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:50 AM
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Stop talking to this person. They just made the most ridiculous assumptions about literally everything about me that aren't even remotely accurate. Clearly a bad faith response.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:37 AM
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I have mostly anecdotal experiences over the past decade or so of dating, having casual sex, being married at one point in my early 20's, and as much as I would love for these "toxic" ideas to not he true, I really just haven't seen any examples that prove it otherwise. EDIT: the comment responding to this is clearly made in bad faith. None of their assumptions are accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:51 PM
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Be fit, be attractive, be a decent person, I know enough women to understand that the last point is truly optional, though. Just be fit and attractive. Some women might want you to be a decent person, but it's so few that there's really no reason to work on yourself if you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:09 PM
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People who want to demonize men with the straw man that they "just want to use womens bodies for pleasure."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:51 AM
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That's false, period. And not a single man here thinks of sex as just a means yo an orgasm. If you do, that's in you. But a slightly disfunctional view of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:50 AM
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I'm sure you think you do...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 07:20 AM
2

They never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:03 AM
2

This entire premise of her post is how men don’t want their age match. Her post doesn't say that at all. Anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:56 AM
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I'm not disagreeing with you about that! But that's irrelevant because we aren't talking about men! Take your personal beef elsewhere. Make your own thread about it!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:37 AM
1

The lack of self awareness here is astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:29 AM
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I always love this response. "bUt MeN dO It ToO". But we aren't talking about men right now. So what's your point? I think it's ridiculous no matter what gender you are. But brining up men just for the sake of it is perplexing. You're not coming off very well when your comments are so emotionally charged. Your arguments are invalid when it's clear you're just angry about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:17 AM
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The reason they feel that women lose value after a certain age is...yup...misogyny. Your response is a classic example of a Motte and Bailey fallacy. Nowhere in this post was the concept of "value" mentioned. They stated something about physical attractiveness. The rest of your comment is virtually worthless because you're arguing with OP about something they weren't talking about in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:41 AM
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Men want women to feel good about themselves. Period. However, Men see a woman shouting at them that 40 year olds are just as attractive as 28 at year olds and that's outright lunacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:33 AM
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They aren't. They aren't they aren't they aren't. Most women aren't beautiful. They aren't. They aren't. Normalize coming to terms with the fact that most of us are just okay looking and a lot of us are ugly and there's nothing wrong with being okay looking or ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:30 AM
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You seem to have some weird issues, but the bottom line is if a women does sometimes sleep with men on the first date and doesn't with a given guy, it's a clear sign she just isn't attracted to him and even men interested in pursuing a relationship should pass. It's a waste of time trying to date someone who isn't even attracted to you on the most fundamental level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:21 AM
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Isn't that what he said?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:08 AM
5

I sure hope she can rationalize it like that for her sake!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 03:06 AM
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If she has sex on the first date sometimes, and she doesn't have sex on the first date with me, it's a clear indicator that she isn't interested enough in the first place. In that case, good riddance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:53 AM
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I can somewhat agree with you. But the bottom line is, it definitely needs to be the man who actually shares DNA with the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:45 AM
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Bro, did you read this before you posted it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:47 AM
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Imagine the radical idea that a woman supports herself and her children like any other adult...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:46 AM
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I don't see how "you must let us inject this foreign substance into you" and "we're going to do a test to make sure this baby is being taken care of by it's actual parents and making sure it has the opportunity to know who it's real dad is" are even similar. But okay...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:44 AM
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It really is nothing short of disturbing that men saying "we just want to know without a doubt that our children are actually ours" is met with outrage. Especially with how common the "we did a genealogy DNA test and found out our dad isn't our dad" stories have become. They always say "don't date people you don't trust." But that's not how that works at all, trusting someone is a prerequisite for being cheated on. Nobody is dating someone they think will cheat on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:38 AM
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That doesn't mean that people responding to the question "would you date a crazy woman" interpreted as "dangerous". And that still is not the same as claiming men will date a child predator...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 09:08 AM
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You said men would choose to date pedophiles. Now you're claiming it's a fact because men on reddit said they would sleep with crazy women. Those are completely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:59 AM
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This is a lie. Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:57 AM
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Looks like you still missed the point either willfully or not intentionally It's always completely intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:48 AM
5

You greatly misunderstood the meaning of "vibed with."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:23 AM
0

So you're saying no man has even been cheated on and never known about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:15 AM
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Most men raising other mens children don't think their spouse would cheat on them...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:50 PM
1

How does someone not trusting you for no reason hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:45 PM
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Nobody desires to be trusted like someone who wants to violate your trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:18 PM
5

So women have never cheated on men they're married to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:15 PM
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The amount of men that didn't suspect is and still found out later through genealogy DNA tests is still astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:05 PM
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The issue isn't that you misunderstood. It's that your comment was a bad faith argument. I simply left my comment so that other readers could see and understand that you're not here to have a good faith discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 11:01 PM
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Why would I reiterate what you already read when you didn't want to acknowledge it in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:56 PM
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That's a gross oversimplification of the point being made here though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:47 PM
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Anyway you sound autistic so...yeah. If anything this is purely projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:11 AM
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Pretty much. Feel so validated seeing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:47 PM
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I love how the more I ask the more you get angry while also providing important details that any normal human being would have included in the first place. Really make it all seem like it actually happened and not just like something you're making up because someone pointed out that it wasn't what you thought and now you're angry and insecure. Nice bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:45 PM
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Did you give her your number? Did you get hers?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:37 PM
1

Nothing, people compliment like that all the time just being friendly. At the gym is the most appropriate place to make a completely innocent comment about someone's physique. If it was the grocery store or something it would be different. That's just two gym goers being friendly at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:31 PM
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A girl on the stairmaster being friendly isn't the type of "approaching" OP meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 11:27 PM
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😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/23 12:34 AM
3

You added extra stuff that's not relevant...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:38 AM
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The part where we asked you. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:31 AM
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You're being intentionally dishonest with your argument here and presenting your own personal opinion without acknowledgment of reality that most of society does indeed demonize men who have preferences toward women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:59 PM
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The problem is that nobody is drawn to a place like this unless they have a chip on their shoulder. Everyone is hostile here and barely anyone is interested in a good faith discussion. This environment is not conducive to progress. It's just a place for angry people to express themselves. Even I'm just here today because I'm frustrated with something/someone and looking for validation on my feelings. 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:36 AM
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Some guys don't think that way. Some guys think the title of "boyfriend" is the ultimate win, and they're content. Nevermind that they're doing the most for a woman that doesn't reciprocate. They see it as "that's just me being a good boyfriend"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:23 AM
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Lmao, I don’t believe for a second that a dude who’s 6-9 would give a women who’s a 5 the time of day when he could get better. The hottest guy I know, looks like a model, has zero standards. trust me, a lot of men live by the saying "it's still better than my hand."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:47 AM
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I couldn't imagine staying married to someone who did that to my son. How did his dad not kick her to the curb?
/r/MensRights20/02/23 10:33 PM
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It's really just this simple: men(generally, not always) don't want a woman with a high body count. Why? It doesn't matter. They're entitled to their preferences. Meanwhile, women (generally, not always) aren't really concerned about a man having a high body count. Unfortunately, and most people dont understand this, you can do things that make you more valued to others, but ultimately what those things are get to be determined by the people forming the opinions about you. If you want to try and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 04:01 AM
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Either both have a "diminished value" or neither does. Except this just isn't how reality works...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 02:32 AM
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40% of straight women don’t even reach orgasm during hetero sex because a lot of guys really don’t know what they are doing. Not even a relevant statement here. Considering that they are having casual sex. ;Women want security Having sex with a married man that you know is also sleeping with the other women provides this how? It’s also a running joke anyways that military guys are a great way to catch an std If it was reality, it wouldn't he a joke. Not to mention it's usually the women who are …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:15 AM
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But he wrote it for his girlfriend and didn't give it to her... that's the main point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 01:48 AM
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If he wrote it for his highschool girlfriend, why does he have it and not her? And why would thay be something he kept? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 01:01 AM
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I saw this happen a lot when I was stationed overseas. Most of my single friends had issues finding casual sex, but most of the single females where enjoying sleeping with their married coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 12:54 AM
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women vet you. "Lets see if he'll tolerate me being a huge fucking bitch" 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:15 AM
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Yeah, a lot of guys are just in it for the sex. They'll deal with all kinds of shitty behavior just to get another notch on their belt and act like they're players. Tolerating a total shithead just for pussy isn't winning to me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:14 AM
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This is the kind of woman to "take it slow with you" because she "likes you" and then fucks some other guy during that time and then pretend she's not manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 09:57 AM
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The question you need to ask yourself when choosing is if your okay dating a woman who is fucking someone else until she decides she you've earned it to have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 04:19 AM
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That's how the majority of women date. They maintain a down low FWB while they date. They can get their sexual needs met consistently with a single partner and hold off on having sex with other men until they're sure they've secured a relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:46 AM
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We don't need to argue about whether or not victims can avoid being victims. Having contempt for half the population because of things a few individuals have done isn't healthy, normal, or justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 01:16 AM
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Dating.... not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:55 AM
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We all thought that. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:54 AM
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Men don't believe that sex is devaluing. You had 1 guy say that to you. I don't believe that. Most men don't care about your ody count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:45 AM
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As a man, I really don't care about a womans N-count.most guys don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:41 AM
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I specifically said she became unreasonable to deal with. Never said that the desire for a relationship was unreasonable. So that's an invalid statement in regards to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:22 AM
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Or she just wanted to have sex with him and then the dynamic changed later and she become unreasonable to deal with. It happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:52 AM
2

It seems like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:48 AM
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whats your goal? For you to explain what you're calling misogyny and use this sub the way it was intended instead of using it asan outlet for your unfounded bitterness by making vague self rightous statements for the sake of feeling like your somehow accomplishing something. If you want to rant aimlessly and without being challenged, go someplace else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:39 AM
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because the purpose is to learn what people think not win arguments It's actually in the name of the subreddit "debate".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:29 AM
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Why even comment on a discussion if you don't want to discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:23 AM
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What do you see in that post that constitutes misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:09 AM
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His post reflects that he dislikes her and finds her undesirable. He agreed to a FWB situation and then discovered she was incompatible with him and put an end to it. Are you saying he's not allowed to change his mind? He explained pretty clearly that he did like her, then she changed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 03:08 AM
2

Almost all my married friends are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:23 PM
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The point was that people posting shit on line aren't as a common as you think, you just get that impression because you spend time in those environments. Most men I know that are lonely are complete "betas" for lack of a better word. They all think women are just the best and are just sad they are alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 09:18 PM
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I'm 5'5", average face, nice body. There's always another woman out there. Always.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:23 AM
1

I've heard having sex helps with migraines. Take that as you will...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:22 AM
1

They shed it. Like lizards. Cold blooded reptiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:03 AM
1

Being around anonymous forums for the better part of tens years and also living in the real world concurrently has made me realize the incels online are just as vocal in person, but they're just rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 02:59 AM
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One of the most attractive men I've ever known has a body count of over 100. But has zero standards. Fat women, old women, doesn't matter. These stats on the site don't take into consideration the quality of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:56 AM
1

This falls under the "not fair" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 12:17 AM
2

If we're going by one-person anecdotes We're not. That was just one example of many. The opinions of the majority of women wrapped up in a quotefrom an individual that either lacked the self awareness to lie like the rest or was shameless enough to be honest. But that's good you don't have any issues about being seen with a shorter man in public, I guess? Most normal people wouldn't consider that something to make note of though, they just live their life and don't think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:12 PM
2

I've been told as a short man by a taller woman that we "can have sex, but she wouldn't date a shorter guy". Women do find short men attractive. They just don't want other women to know they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 01:00 AM
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I don’t envy, believing I might be creating a genuine connection with someone , onlyto have it taken away from me time and time again. The breakup is going to happen regardless, the perk is that they never suffer any blow to their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 03:23 AM
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I envy women's lack of self awareness. They're able to take the ego boost of a hot guy lowering his standards to fuck her because he's horny, and not even consider that he's actually not even that attracted to her. That he would never even date her. She only recognizes sex with a hot guy. Then when she finally has to confront that he never talked to her again, even when it happens with multiple men, she never once reflects on herself. She shifts the blame to men being assholes. There is no beati…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:11 AM
2

Women never need to warn each other about men that are just interested in casual sex. If you don't want casual sex, don't have casual sex. If you're looking for a relationship, that's fine. But if you're only sleeping with a guy on the assumption that you're entitled to a relationship because of that fact then you're the one with the problem. You shouldn't be having sex with someone for any reason other than you just want ro have sex with them, having some made up contract in your head that he e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:45 PM
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"Women are weaker" they say to the man that had boiling water thrown on his face while he slept. "Women are weaker" they say to the man that was poisoned. "Women are weaker" they say to the man that stabbed. If feminism had anything to do with gender equality, domestic violence stats wouldn't even be a subject. They'd advocate for harsher punishments, instead the focus is always how awful men are. Demonizing men is helping womens rights how?
/r/MensRights03/09/22 04:11 AM
1

What does this have to do with mens rights though?
/r/MensRights01/09/22 07:38 AM
1

It's such a non issue that women willingly have multiple children.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 04:32 AM
1

No, you don't get it still. You saying it's dangerous is irrelevant. Everything can be dangerous. Like you said, even driving a car is more dangerous. The possibility of it being dangerous is so low that it's literally not a significant factor. It's a stupid thing to mention. There's me spelling it out for you, I was just enjoying you making youself look ridiculous for a bit. Take care.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 03:55 AM
1

You still don't get it. Christ.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 10:29 AM
1

Glad you're too dumb to see how you've just invalidated your point. 😂
/r/MensRights30/08/22 06:05 AM
1

It's so dangerous but yet I keep seeing women with multiple children...
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:48 AM
1

Like they do need support. Their mother definitely needs to take this into consideration before she decides if she'll abort or be financially supporting a child all on her own.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:43 AM
1

Welcome to the mens rights movement...
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:36 AM
1

I shown people the actual court cases of this happening and they just said "it's for the child, the child must be taken care of" 🤢
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:21 AM
2

As a single father, my sone and I live quite comfortably without the assistance of child support.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:15 AM
1

The old "someone's got to pay for the child" argument. Yes, the person who decided to give birth to it. Problem solved. Pay for your chil, by yourself.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 04:13 AM
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How fo we archive stuff like this? She's gonna delete it soon.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:29 AM
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Her comments from just a few minutes before I'm posting this are even worse. You're judging me off of a mistake. A mistake that doesn't make me. If you really knew me you would know I'm the kindest person ever. 🤢
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:28 AM
1

How much did that cost him again?
/r/MensRights03/06/22 06:18 AM
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Didn't say women are awful. You didn't say anything of any value and you implied that women in general don't make sense. As if they're just some irrational beings. Regardless of how you actually feel, nothing you said contributed to the conversation in any meaningful way and only contributes to the idea the r/mensrights just doesn't like women.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 04:36 AM
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I hate seeing comments like this here. Why can't we be mens rights without talking about how awful women are just for the sake of it?
/r/MensRights03/06/22 04:11 AM
1

"Mountain of evidence" Where? Where!?
/r/MensRights01/06/22 10:35 PM
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She's got a personality disorder. She literally cannot help it.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 10:34 PM
21

Do you realize you make yourself look dumb?
/r/MensRights31/05/22 06:48 AM
1

You said you can afford an attorney now? Hire one. Drain any bank account she has access to, and hold onto the cash or put it in a new bank account. Fight the restraining order in court. Stop letting her tell you what to do, and listen and do what your attorney says. He knows better than you, don't question him. This is tough love OP, but you've been foolish this whole time, setting yourself up for failure. Whatever assets you have that were acquired during the marriage are YOURS. Cars, money, h…
/r/MensRights31/05/22 01:01 AM
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I came home and she packed all of my things and wanted me out. Since then I have moved in with a family member Any men reading this that are married or possibly going to be divorcing soon. Do NOT move out of your own home. Ever. You don't have to. And it only works against you later.
/r/MensRights31/05/22 12:50 AM
1

Can I get more details on the elevator story? Who was it?
/r/MensRights28/05/22 05:29 AM
4

It's forced virtue signaling on account of this being highly visible and the facts being undeniable.
/r/MensRights26/05/22 10:31 PM
5

Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them. 😒
/r/MensRights26/05/22 10:28 PM
1

Exactly. Him saying "we had consensual sex" isn't proof he didn't rape her, it's a confession to adultery, which for military is going to get him in a lot of trouble.
/r/MensRights26/05/22 12:40 PM
5

Do not! If they read your your rights shut the fuck up and get a lawyer. The police, OSI, your chain of command, they are not your friends. Delete this shit and get legal counsel.
/r/MensRights26/05/22 08:54 AM
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I was advised to sue her for defamation because of the first thing but I was like “nah I done enough damage by caving in to her advances “ Who advised this?
/r/MensRights26/05/22 08:29 AM
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That's just naive on your part. What did you think they'd do?
/r/AntiFeminists14/05/22 04:15 AM
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You understand the context and therefore what point was being made and you still presented irrelevant evidence. Go away.
/r/AntiFeminists13/05/22 08:31 PM
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So let me ask again, scientific evidence for "life begins at conception" in the sense that a viable human being capable of living outside of the womb exists at conception. Since you wanted to take liberties with what defines "begins". Yes. The process for life technically begins at conception.
/r/AntiFeminists13/05/22 11:31 AM
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I keep trying to talk to "just attractive enough" women only to find out they're personalities kinda suck too. How much more settling should I do? Lol I've been with women that don't value me as a person, it's worse than being single. Men shouldn't ever settled.
/r/AntiFeminists13/05/22 12:50 AM
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I keep trying to talk to "just attractive enough" women only to find out they're personalities kinda suck too. How much more settling should I do? Lol I've been with women that don't value me as a person, it's worse than being single. Men shouldn't ever settled.
/r/AntiFeminists13/05/22 12:50 AM
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Does anyone have any credible scientific source that "life begins at conception"? Or are they just stating this for the sake of it?
/r/AntiFeminists13/05/22 12:46 AM
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https://blacksportsonline.com/2022/05/photos-of-ortencia-alcantara-the-woman-kevin-samuels-spent-night-with-before-he-died/3/ That nurse is gorgeous. Oof. You guys are really trying out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:15 AM
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Kevin always said "men will fuck you and they'll date you but they won't marry you". Kevin wasn't engaged to this woman, he's practicing what he preaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:09 AM
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Looks first. Filter for personality after. I've found the most attractive people actually tend to be the most intelligent and well adjusted anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:55 PM
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"But men do this" is not an argument for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:43 PM
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6 weeks is just barely figuring out if I still want to carry on casually with a person still...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:40 PM
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I'm glad you can acknowledge that's how women feel and it's not actually a reflection of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:54 PM
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The title of the post is "Is FemaleDatingStrategy, ironically, conservative?". Work on your reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:00 AM
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It's the blatant hypocrisy that's relevant, but you know that already. No, it's not. The only reason you don't like my comment is because it's your precious gender that's being called out. First deflection, now projection. I don't care what you think about men. But please, if you want to come to purplepilldebate at least stay on topic instead of coming here to whine going on about "bUt MeEeNnN".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:54 AM
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All I said was how men are exactly like this too. Even if that was the truth, it's not relevant to the conversation and it doesn't mean anything. But you haven't refuted the claims made by OP so I'm assuming you agree? Why comment then if not to just whine?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:28 AM
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Read that comment again and tell me where they stated an opinion, because it's not there. They merely stated their observations which is on topic. Then you went off about men when we aren't discussing men in this thread. Do you have something to say about FDS being conservative or not? Or are you just here to be bitter and shout into the void about your imaginary ridicule?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:19 AM
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Again, we aren't talking about if it's wrong or not... are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:07 AM
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I'm saying men are raging hypocrites. I'm sorry you feel that way miss, but again, this is a discussion about how FDS is conservative. Do you not have anything to say about that topic? Because so far all you've done is complain about some imaginary thing men do. EDIT: she edited her comment after my response but my quote is her original phrasing. Not a single bit of integrity apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:02 AM
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And men are absolutely not a hair better Okay? We aren't talking about men though. Your comment is just a long winded way of saying "You're not wrong but I'm angry about men". Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:44 AM
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That's not it. We aren't talking about leaving or staying. This whole thread is discussing being husband material or FWB material, and you started talking about the female equivalent. We're discussing the fact that men and women both determine what the opposite sex is useful for. You fully agreed that some men are considered marriage material and some are considered fwb material and then agreed on what each on is defined as, but you're now pretending like there's no such thing as a widely agreed…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:05 AM
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That's a lot of incorrect statements. Nobody deserves to be treated poorly. But that doesn't mean any of those people are relationship material either. Fuck material is incorrect too. If a guy has sex with you but won't date you, it's not because he views you as a sex object, it's because you just might not be relationship material. You can be a nice person and still not be relationship material...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:55 AM
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Is it though? Yes. Are you trying to claim that peoples perception of you has nothing to do with the reality of you? But at the end of the day it's all about what I want out of life. Do I care enough to mold myself into what some else wants me to be? Some people it's yes. For me it's a no. I'm married to a man who treats me the way I want to be treated and relationship that makes me happier than when I was single. Anything else isn't worth it. Again, that has nothing to do with what I said. Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:49 AM
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So introspection has no place in this process. Interesting. I mean, what ever anyone "thinks" you arw is a reflection of what you actually are...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:08 AM
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I never said anything about being treated as a sex object... You're either determined to be a a sex object or relationship material is the point. How You're treated is just a reflection of what yoy actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 08:02 AM
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So you're just going to quit dating when you realize you're just sex material?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:54 AM
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I want to be genuinely loved Then don't waste your time with women. They don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:38 AM
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Lots of men don't have abundance. The fact that undesirable men exist does not = dreadgame is lying. Oof They talk about telling women they're not into LTRs but in reality they don't tell women that. This statement requires evidence that TRP philosophy supports this behavior. This is like the 5th time you've said something with zero evidence. Until you provide evidence or examples for these claims I don't feel like this debate has any reason to continue considering you haven't made any arguments…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:19 AM
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Nothing of value to add this time?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:58 AM
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You believing men don't have other options and are lying about it is not based on any sort of facts. It's just an assumption you've made all on you're own. And dreadgame isn't manipulation anyway. It's merely a way of showing your worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:57 AM
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Yes, the philosophy denounces lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:52 AM
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Nothing dishonest about dread game... there is no lying. You're misunderstanding what dread game is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:45 AM
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They don't lie. It's TRP advocate against lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:45 AM
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Prove it then. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:38 AM
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TrP is against lying. So that's incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:37 AM
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Not the same type of love there...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:14 AM
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You say my defense of TRP is tiresome. I haven't defended anything. I just cleared up your misconception by stating the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:12 AM
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TRPers lie all the time on here That has nothing to do with what you were originally saying about TRP advocating manipulating women. Claiming an individual lied on the internet doesn't support your claim that TRP philosophy condones manipulating women. And idk why you keep bringing uo feminism. That has nothing to do with the claims your making about TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:07 AM
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Nothing of value to add to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:57 PM
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Trp isn't packed full of lies and hypocrisy. It's a philosophy. You either follow it or you don't. It's not comparable to the other things you listed. Lol Maybe you're confusing TRP with something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:49 PM
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Feminism is a movement FDS is harmless (honestly, they're just a bunch of women avoiding Men) Evangelism is an organized religion with meetings and political activism TRP is a philosophy practiced by individuals independently of one another with specific ideas being the guidelines. You appear to not understand how any of these things function. It's like the more you talk, the less you appear to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:31 PM
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It's not an organization, it's a philosophy. Lol. There's no front with secretive internal practices. You either live by the philosophy or you aren't red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:55 PM
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There is zero exploitation involved in TRP. Lying is frowned upob even.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:45 PM
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Not if you're having a job interview date...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:45 PM
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C ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:52 PM
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You don't know what an IOI is or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:49 PM
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You either didn't read the previous comments or your being obtuse. An IOI is a form of pursuit. The mere act of recognizing what an IOI means validates it as a form of pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:43 PM
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They either look good or are some kind of celebrity... ect. For these guys dating is an easy process. Let me say it again. When women are attracted to you, it's not like a job interview. It's like meeting people. If you ever feel like a date is a job interview, don't waste your time with a second. She's not attracted to you, she's letting you buy her food, entertain her, and validate her. And what do you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:39 PM
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let me define pursuit to cater to my specific expectations and then try to prove my point with the definition I just made up. Laughbable. What even is this point of this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 07:32 PM
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TRP recognizes an "anger phase" though and encourages men to work through it on their path to self improvement. Fds has no such acknowledgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:51 PM
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Traveling has taught me that geography doesn't change biology. Don't let yourself be sold on the mythical "traditional foreign woman". Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:39 AM
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Some folks are getting their knickers in a twist without reading the OP properly. Nowhere in it have I advocated for men to push for sex on the FIRST DATE or dump her ass This is called a strawman argument. The people responding like this know that you don't mean that. But they intentionally misrepresent your argument as something different and then argue on that. Women know that men view sex early on is important and why, but they act like men are instead insisting women have sex with them with…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:03 AM
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Is this a fucking joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:35 AM
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The exception not the rule...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:05 AM
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They do. Just not the same way men do. Just because you don't experience it doesn't mean it's not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:02 AM
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That maybe you shouldn't view your friendships as a transaction? I don't. So what are you trying to say? As a man I'm friends with the women that I'm friends with because I like talking to them, There aren't other men you enjoy talking to? Why did you specifically choose to develop relationships with females in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:56 AM
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So you failed to obtain a relationship with these women and decided to remain friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:53 AM
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They don't. I don't see women going after men and asking men out for dates and paying for dates. That's not how thet pursue men. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:50 AM
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How did you meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:23 AM
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Are any friendships necessary? Most people I consider my friends are people I simply enjoy talking to, not people I need something from. And? What are you trying to say here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:52 PM
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I've been there and back. Opposite sex friends are 1. Unnecessary. 2. Have no benefit for the man. 3. Very often have a 1 sided dynamic for sexual attraction. And if you want to say "not always" refer to point 1. There is no reason for men and women to maintain a platonic relationship that isn't purely professional. Be friends with guys. Date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 11:02 PM
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I'm keeping high tier normie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:42 PM
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Yeah, it's creepy af.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:38 PM
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Yes, just not favorably for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:08 PM
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IOIs are an invitation to pursue You recognize it fulfills the requirements while denying it the exact definition of pursuit. Just as asking a women out is an invitation for her to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:03 PM
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It wouldn't change anything for the men that want it to be a thing. And that's the biggest take away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:00 PM
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Why both?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:59 PM
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Any platonic answer to this question is the justification for having male friends instead of female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:47 PM
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I disagree because changing the way everything works changes the way everything works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:46 PM
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Sounds like you're just trying to play off your ridiculous comment as intentional instead of just dealing with the fact that it was a ridiculous thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:39 PM
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Haha are you new here? Lmao, you're implying I'm new because you don't make sense and I expected you too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:31 PM
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But when a woman approaches, it's much less common and more likely to be out of enthusiasm than desperation (rarer for women). You want it to become the standard so the current dynamic won't apply anymore. How are you even typing that out without realizing it doesn't make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:26 PM
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Doesn't sound like much but I'd bet plenty of guys are being settled for and have no idea That's less about women expressing their interest in a man and more about men not being able to notice the difference in how women act when they're genuinely attracted to you versus when your being settled on. Not to mention men still pursue women that might not be their top choice and settle despite always pursuing. Women will do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 09:07 PM
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Better suitors? Passivity limits ones options. I'm doubtful the type of men women would pursue are the same type of men that advocate for women to pursue men. Couple that with the fact that any woman that is at least average in looks isn't lacking for options even a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:47 PM
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For starters, women already do pursue men. Just not the way you want. Also, what benifit is there for the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:36 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:28 PM
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I wouldn't think women are desperate. But considering it's been the mans responsibility for so long, the few times a women has overtly pursued me it's come off as a little nutty. Besides, women do pursue men already. Just not the same overt way men do. A passive smile or lingering eye contact are good examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:12 PM
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Are you advocating for or against women pursuing men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:09 PM
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Elaborate on your idea about not being able to gaslight?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:04 PM
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This is exactly how it should be. Any guy that advocates for "women pursuing men" is probably some guy that doesn't have much success and has some fantasy that if only women approaching men was a thing they'd be drowning in women asking them on dates. Women already do pursue men, just not in the way men pursue women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:57 PM
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Counter counterpoint: not being dateable is what gets you fuck zoned. A mans romantic interest in a woman is independent of his sexual interest. But that's just speaking to the concept of "fuckzoned". I honestly don't advocate for women to pursue men, at least not outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:42 PM
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Dating for men is very similar to doing job interviews. It should be thought of and approached in the same way. When women are attracted to you, it's not like a job interview. It's like meeting people. If I was ever on a date that felt like a job interview for me I'd be so disappointed. The way you make it out sounds depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:36 PM
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I have yet to see a post about men feeling entitled to sex on here... what are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:12 PM
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Name one thing that is wrong about my assessment? That's what you were supposed to do with the other guy... I'm not part of this discussion. Just pointing out that calling someone clueless isn't a counter point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:56 PM
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In what regards are you successful with women and what does that entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:48 PM
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If you want advice on buying a used car and not getting screwed, do you ask the car salesman or your older friend that's bought 8 used cars in their lifetime? You want my advice on how to attract a man? Dress flirtatiously. Put out on the first date if he attempts it. Split the bill 50/50. Do not be demanding of his attention but give him yours. Do that nasty thing he likes. This is all true advice. Most men will agree, a woman that does these things will attract them. But from the woman's persp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:37 PM
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Protip, if someone insults you instead of giving a counter argument it means you're right and they're upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:19 PM
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I'll give you that, first date sex isn't for everyone. But if they don't have sex with you on the 3rd date at the latest it means they aren't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:41 PM
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I'll be celibate for the rest of my life before I date someone who isn't attracted to me and thinks that sex with them is a reward for me to earn instead of a mutual desired and enjoyable experience for the both of us...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:11 PM
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You've been successfully unsuccessful at getting into a relationship. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:09 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:43 PM
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Emotional unavailability is something women experience. Men don't really have that. There are no Emotionally unavailable men, only unlovable women...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 03:33 PM
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I vet for sex, to be fair. So 99% of women I met on tinder put out early on, either on the first date, because they came over to my place, or the second because they wanted to meet in person first for lunch or something and then they came over.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:57 AM
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Attractive women with lackluster personalities that lack the ability of introspection...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 10:54 AM
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Don’t ya think that women would want a slightly longer vetting process due to the sheer amount of shitty dating opportunities out there. I have women come to my apartment for sex or we meet somewhere in public first and then they come over soon after. So I can't relate? You’re more likely to get shit when you’re in your 20s as far as relationships go. If someone tried something, didn’t work. You learn from that experience. Everyone learns things about themselves and they don’t like an experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 01:11 AM
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What is feminism anymore when women have the same rights as men now? Women even have gained advantages and privileges men don't have at this point. Idk what feminism is supposed to be anymore...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:46 PM
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I just don't understand why some women are against the idea of sleeping with a man on the first date if they've done it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:40 PM
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I know it's anecdotal, but I've been the FWB while the girl was making some other guy wait enough times that I wouldn't go on a second date with a women that hadn't at least expressed interest in sex the second time we meet. Not to mention the times women I've know have let guys take them out on a date and they go back to my place after the date for sex. Guys they went out with again after. I've seen enough. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 07:12 PM
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You didn't even look at the survey results... why did you even comment? It's very clear from the sexual frequency that menand women have similar libidos.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:46 PM
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I really don't care honestly. I've seen men do a lot of nasty things myself, enough that it's not unreasonable for you to feel that way to me. If you sincerely feel like all men are trash, I can understand where you're coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:50 AM
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Because you’re doing a terrible job explaining yourself. I don't need to explain anything, it's all in the survey... And it just sounds like you’re trying everything in your power to prove that women are more privileged I'm just explaining what the data makes it seem like. No reasonable person should come to this conclusion. I feel like you're being disingenuous and wilfully misinterpreting what I said because of how absurd that interpretation is. Maybe you're projecting and you're the one with …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 11:45 AM
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Definitely enough that I can make generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 10:49 AM
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Not all, but enough do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:45 AM
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If you want to have an actual discussion about why I prefer casual sex over relationships more often than not feel free to DM me or just make your own thread for everyone to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:24 AM
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"So you want that thing you like for free huh?" Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:53 AM
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No. We aren't pretending men or women are participating in purely voluntary anonymous surveys just to lie...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:00 AM
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🏆 you can now collect your trophy If there were awards for being a moron I'd have to buy a trophy case, but I'll stand by my arguments in a debate. I'm just glad there were no insults. That's about as civil as reddit gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:26 AM
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That's true. What do you think the cause is for the relatively even figures for celibacy? I don't feel like ugliness is unreasonable. But maybe it's missing other viewpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:19 AM
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If you will concede that saying women buying male prostitutes is as common as men buying prostitutes, and lesbians being as promiscuous as gay men, are the two stupidest things posted on Reddit this week. It's probably the stupidest thing this month but my point was if we're gonna argue "what if's" where does the line get drawn? Just because you feel it's reasonable doesn't mean it's a good argument against the data available. I do feel like even if prostitution was a factor it's probably to min…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:17 AM
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The ugliest people don't find other ugly people arousing? Say it ain't so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:09 AM
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also doesn’t specifically address which portion of the 25% is straight men getting free sex from women. At least 20%. Impossible for it to be less. It also doesn’t address the fact that some of the 25% of men are also sharing the 10% of promiscuous women. That's implied already, how does that invalidate the 80/20 rule? Other legitimate factors like gay men are more promiscuous than gay women and straight men, Legitimate how? Where in this survey is that represented? How many of the women surveye…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:50 AM
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Exactly! So we as men shouldn't pursue a women that doesn't fuck on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:43 AM
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Lesbian sex tourism is huge in finland rn...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:13 AM
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Whatever that is(literally, what even is that? It just says gay men and gay women?) doesn't really matter here. We're discussing the data presented this specific study.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:09 AM
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Listen, you keep wanting to say "what if this" and "what if that". That doesn't matter. There's no reason to entertain any more silly "what if's".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:08 AM
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That was me pointing out how silly your statement was by example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:04 AM
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So we might chip away a few more No. Lol. That's not how that works but good try though. And like I said before, if you want to say that about gay men, you also assume the same for gay women. And then the percentages just even out. That's why were aren't doing "but if"... the study says what it says. We're talking about what we can see in the study. You can "what if" anything. That's still just make believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 01:03 AM
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Just because you don't like what the data proves doesn't make it go away...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:57 AM
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There is no reason to believe closeted men are lying on an anonymous survey
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:50 AM
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4% of men being homosexual in the study can at most take 4% off of the 25% of men with over three sexual partners per year. That still is 20% Which is a huge imbalance. I'll agree with you. All of the gay men in the study of had more than three Partners per year. It still doesn't invalidate the "Chad thundercock Theory".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:46 AM
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That's what the data shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:29 AM
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We're discussing what can be shown in the data, if you want to speculate and make ridiculous assertions than what I just said is just as likely. How do we know women aren't hireing prostitutes too? Not to mention you're a woman claiming trying to talk on what happens in mens restrooms...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:26 AM
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Especially with a sample size of over 9.5k people... that argument is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:19 AM
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So either there are some men having sex with men…4% identify as gay, men are seeing sex workers, or the 10% of women with three or more partners are spreading the love to 25% of the men? Least plausible conclusion. If you want to go that route you'd have to also factor in lesbians having sex with other women at an equal percentage as gay men having sex with men and the percentages don't really change the outcome... you also are assuming like the people surveyed are only able to fuck each other a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 12:17 AM
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Read the material if you want to be part of the discussion...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:38 PM
0

I don't believe the porn/ED link. I feel like porn addiction might be a symptom more than the actual disease. I watch some of the most fucked up porn but have zero issues performing in bed, even when it's just vanilla sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:22 PM
-1

I don't want to live like Dan Bilzerian. I just want to have casual sex at my own convenience with women that aren't hideous and I can tolerate being around. And honestly as long as the arrangement is mutual and no boundaries are crossed, there's not a damn thing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:01 PM
2

3 is a pretty low number honestly for a decent looking guy. But that's just the minimum. For sure there's probably a certain percentage that are averaging triple that amount at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:26 PM
1

Did you even look at your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:24 PM
1

You literally wrote an entirely incoherent string of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:11 PM
1

You're a hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:05 PM
6

Clear and concise assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:39 PM
3

I'd like to hear your explanation for equating someone acknowledging the "cock carousel" to being bitter? I certainly don't mind having casual sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:24 PM
0

That's not me...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:19 PM
1

Exactly, it's not a number, it's a lifestyle. It has always been casual sex outside of monogamous relationships. People just assume the high number of partners is implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:16 PM
1

What's the minimum number for the cock carousel again?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:13 PM
-2

The cock carousel isn't how many man a woman fucks. It's the willingness to have casual sex without commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:00 PM
6

Pretty much the point... women would rather share a guy for casual sex than to give it up on a first date for someone that's not top 25%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:59 PM
7

That's a good observation. Women like to fuck just as much as men. They're just not fucking the ones that aren't top.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:51 PM
2

It doesn't debunk the cock carousel. It's just more clearly defines the standards for it. Women are engaging in casual sex often, but they're standards are high and eligible men are few. So there's the general lack of commitment from the top 25% of men, but women are still enjoying casual sex with them while not putting out on dates with lesser men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:47 PM
4

It does not debunk the 80/20 rule. It's evidence for it. 25% of men are having more sex than the other 75% of men. The fact that over half of women had at least 1 sexually partner, but 43% of men had one while 25% had 3 or moremeans that women are having sex just as much as men, but mostly with the top 25%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:39 PM
17

It fully supports the idea that if a woman won't fuck you, she's not that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:30 PM
2

Pretty much. I'm just here for the hamstering. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:21 PM
1

If you want to compare the men against the women for number of sexual partners you'll find that the stats aren't very favorable for what you want to believe either. The fact that around 23% of men have had 3 or more partners in a year vs about 10% for women while the stats for 2 partners is about the same and the stats for 1 is around 43% for men and 58% for women kinda proves that women are fucking the more attractive men more often and also sharing them. You don't realize it, but you just prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:58 PM
1

Again, the mens stats are irrelevant to my argument...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:17 PM
1

The mens stats are not irrelevant to the argument being made? Why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 06:01 PM
1

So you didnt read the link, because they already addressed that. You didn't read the data apparently. The table you quote even proves my point. 74% of women had 1 sexual partner. The percentage of women have sex a few times a month or more(weekly) is 79%. Almost half of the women in this study are married, so that skews the data a lot anyway. The tables with the more relevant data are 10 and 11 which show that 81% of unmarried women had at least 1 partner or more while 70% of unmarried women had…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:47 PM
1

Check eTable5, which shows most 74% of women and 57% of men had only 1 partner for the entire year. This is a misleading statistic. 1 partner for the entire year does not equal 1 sexual interaction. Women will maintain a reliable FWB while also dating around, making potential serious relationships wait for sex while still using their old reliable. More experienced men are aware of this, and so when a woman doesn't sleep with them after a certain amount of time it's practically an insult consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 05:01 PM
1

Casual relationship= nice. Poly= yuck. These are not the same. I'm very happy with casual but I'd never be in a poly relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:38 PM
45

Guys, the part to accept here as that not only is this true, but the women will also harbor a certain amount of resentment towards you for having to be with a less attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:29 PM
1

You either go for women who desire no commitment sex or you go for women that are too naive wounded or dumb to vet men for commitment and relationship. The biggest issue with your responses on this thread is that you keep on making shit up and then using it as your arguing point. You literally have no clue about my love life or personal experiences. What if you're entirely wrong? That's a rhetorical question for you. You are wrong btw. If you want my personal anecdotes on this topic feel free to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 04:05 PM
4

Those TRP guys don't get laid, they just larp on reddit. This is a lot less true than you think. Of course there's LARPers, but a lot of men on there who actually learned how to apply TRP are pretty successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:49 PM
5

Imagine knowing this and then still making a life partner out of someone else old fleshlight... the study is framed as "dark triad traits can't sustain a relationship" but the real takeaway here is "dark triad traits are what women like"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:43 PM
2

Not the result of the mythical "patriarchy" though...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:57 AM
2

The argument made was that those law exist because of the "patriarchy" and his argument is evidence that women are voting just as much if not more than men to keep these laws in place. When it's both men and women it's not a "patriarchy". Open and shut.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 06:47 AM
1

Okay bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:18 PM
2

"My anecdotal evidence changes the reality for the majority of situations". 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:12 PM
2

You are a loser, because you can't understand the overwhelmingly obvious truth that two people working on a problem is better than one. A business partner is the answer here. Just because you managed to fuck your business partners doesn't mean a relationship is worthwhile on the basis of professional success and growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:05 PM
1

What an incredibly compelling argument... especially because nobody ever turns to shaming language to discredit an accurate yet hard to swallow factual statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:43 PM
0

Men's accomplishments happen despite women, not because of them. A woman has nothing to offer a career oriented man in regards to his success.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 09:07 PM
1

When women had no choice but to do so the metamorphosized man often left her for a younger chick because he knew he could now do better. 30+ year old women keep saying this kind of thing while at the same time insisting the type of guy who does this is the guy they want and for some reason would pick them...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:59 PM
1

Absolutely false...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 08:54 PM
1

It's actually a sub for undesirable women who are deeply hurt and lack any kind of self awarness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:23 PM
1

Lmao. It's all hobbies, finance, and self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:16 PM
3

Nobody is gonna make you a sugarbaby when your neck smells at the end of the day when you turn your head.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/21 11:57 PM
1

The reason why women can use sex as a bargaining chip is precisely because the male libido is much much more powerful than the female libido. Bruh, you're commenting on a post that is a prime example of how you're wrong. This is not an isolated incident. I've had this conversation over pillow talk with fuck buddies about guy's they're not sleeping with because they "could see relationship with them". Women have the same libidoas men. If you've taken her on 3 dates and she hasn't fucked you, that…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/21 12:04 AM
3

The Lead Attorney is doing the lords work for sure.
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 11:24 AM
9

https://youtu.be/dnw3GDewGZA A woman can literally commit a crime, and then use the evidence of that crime in court to get a monthly pay check.
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 03:29 AM
2

If your girl is too toxic even for other women, run.
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 01:38 AM
2

They're both equally gratifying I'm sure...
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 01:20 AM
1

The second one thinks she cares about him. 😂😂😂😂😂
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 01:17 AM
30

https://www.yahoo.com/news/teen-pays-forward-dad-dumps-221833243.html Imagine if it was her mom that didn't want the responsibility of having a daughter, she'd just never exist and nobody would think anything of it...
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 12:23 AM
10

This post deserves to be made fun of. Good job.
/r/askTRP12/05/21 08:02 AM
1

You don't. Boundries are boundries. You don't tell a woman how to act. They either do it, or resent you for "controlling" them. If you're worried she's gonns cheat, because she's going to a festival with her hoe friends, that's her true nature. You can convince her not to go, but that's just changing her behavior, not who she actually is. Next time she asked to check your phone say "sure, lets trade". On snapchat, she can delete conversations but when you check her friendslist, it'll show you th…
/r/askTRP12/05/21 01:34 AM
1

how tf do guys let their girls go to this shit Ignorance of female nature and bluepill upbringing. You aren't insecure. You understand women. It's got nothing to do with you. Nothing to do with who you are, how alpha or beta you are. It's purely to do with the nature of the situation. The best shit test is to go to a party or some kind of social event with other women during a time when you know she won't be able to go. Invite her and when she says she can't, you still go. If the idea of it make…
/r/askTRP12/05/21 01:26 AM
1

Birds of a feather bro. That's all you need to know.
/r/askTRP12/05/21 01:14 AM
1

A hookup with a stranger at a music festival is exciting andlow risk for getting caught... not like cheating at home. You're girls phone is never dead, but it'll be dead or lost at some point during her vacation. Promise.
/r/askTRP12/05/21 01:08 AM
1

Any girl that wants to go to a festival without her boyfriend wants to leave him behind for a reason... that's pretty cold hearted. You're worried about the feelings of someonw that's virtually decided in advance to cheat on you.
/r/askTRP12/05/21 01:03 AM
1

You're the same as them. Enjoy being bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 04:33 AM
1

You're confusing a bunch of angry males on the internets opinions with reality and using it to justify your own anger at the opposite sex. Probably should spend less time on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 04:18 AM
1

Having preferences doesn't make people shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 12:15 AM
1

Like I said, not your height. Other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 06:15 AM
3

So it looks like that probably isn't why you were rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 04:21 AM
6

I don't believe you've been rejected because of your height.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 10:42 PM
2

It's scary isn't it? I like the fact that this obvious sarcasm is still something you could reasonably expect to be real. I'm leaving it without the "/s". Let the downvotes speak to how ridiculous our culture has become that someone sees my comment and thinks "they're probably serious."
/r/PussyPass06/01/21 04:36 AM
2

The patriarchy made them do it. This is why we need feminism.
/r/PussyPass06/01/21 04:01 AM
-1

The only reason you wouldn't have sex with someon your were interested in is as a way to manipulate them into giving you what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:14 AM
1

Nobody said anything about men that only want sex. Is that how you view men? Sounds a bit toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 02:58 AM
-1

Your choice to wait until you've made sure a man is emotionally invested in you is why it's toxic. It's not just about making someone wait until you have what you want. It's about your attitude toward sex being unhealthy. If you feel like sex is about you giving up something and you need to be sure the man is 100% committed to you, it says a lot about you. Not good things either. If you find yourself getting emotionally invested with someone just because you've had sex, that's unhealthy. It's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 02:26 AM
-2

It is toxic though. And nobody feels entitled to sex, and you have zero basis for saying that. But when you find someone attractive enough to sleep with, and are interested in them, but choose not to sleep with them because they aren't giving you what you want(commitment), that's manipulative. That's toxic. And if you aren't interested in them, and don't find them attractive enough to sleep with, then why are you entertaining them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 02:09 AM
-2

Calling it "self protection" doesn't make it less toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 01:55 AM
5

So you've decided from the start that you want to sleep with them. You just don't determine until later if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 01:49 AM
-1

It's important for men to understand that this is incredibly toxic attitude towards sex. If a woman starts out saying "they only get sex if..." it means thet view sex as transactional. They'll withold sex to get their way as leverage for other things. Stay away from this attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 01:01 AM
0

So you're dating men you don't find physically attractive and seeing where it goes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 12:57 AM
2

I feel like cheating is less about sexual urges and more about validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:56 PM
2

Join the military. Go to the commissary. I see men just as and often more attractive than me walking around with wives I wouldn't fuck out of drunken desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:50 PM
1

None of that is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:34 AM
1

I'm just wondering how me pointing out that your comment isn't appropriate in this discussion equals me being "mad" according to your perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:06 PM
1

What exactly do you think I'm "mad" about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:31 PM
1

You're just mad Here we go with round 2 of "this is a discussion thread, stop getting feelings involved". I have literally zero emotional investment in your comment. It's not appropriate in this thread. I don't know what you're motivation is for posting it, but you should do some introspection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:17 PM
2

This is a discussion thread, not a clap-back thread for bitter damaged people. Have some more restraint before you let out your feelings when others are just trying to discuss things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:05 AM
1

Lol. Good for you man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:15 AM
7

If she wasn't getting chronically pump and dumped this does not apply. And to be fair, a virgin girl in college will throw herself at the first good enough guy available. You've got a very childish view on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:59 AM
1

That must make you feel bitter to know that someone you consider garbage had way better success with women than you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:51 AM
1

These men are 10/10 and it's wasted when they don't understand women. You can have the best looks and most desirable traits but if you don't understand other people you can still get taken for a ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:42 AM
8

This is the honest to God truth. Any man will want a relationship with a woman that's worth dating. If a women is getting pumped and dumped a bunch it's because she has no value as a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:54 AM
4

You can be lean and muscular. I think you mean to say you prefer thin more than muscular. Lean is in reference to bodyfat percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 08:03 AM
1

Nobody should be looking for an LTR in the first place... if you don't feel complete without a relationship you aren't ready for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:11 AM
1

No thanks what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 05:01 AM
1

For sure. Enjoy the dredges of the dating pool. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 04:50 AM
1

What I think is quality frankly does not matter. That's correct. The thing is that neither you or I alone get to determine quality. Society collectively gets to determine what is quality and you're confusing what you specifically like with "Quality". A quality man will have more than one or 2 women because he's a quality man and society(in this case specifically women) recognize that. You may value a desperate man with few to no other options. You aren't wrong for wanting that. More power to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 04:43 AM
0

Only Quality men have "harems". A guy that doesn't have a couple women at least and is actively pursuing a single women that he hasn't slept with even is desperate due to a lack of options. Your reasoning is like me saying "only a high quality woman would perform whatever sexual acts I like and be okay with only Netflix and chill dates"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 04:05 AM
1

How much longer are you gonna talk to this obvious troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 10:12 AM
2

FDS does not use any form of manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 11:39 PM
0

Rape by deception is not about ghosting after the encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:00 AM
7

Women are never more than 3 weeks away from sex. Period. Doesn't matter what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:33 PM
0

Just two people who don't understand what TRP is arguing. Nothing to see here folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:35 AM
0

To reiterate, what you've seen is mostly wrong. So your loss on that end. Also, saying "real men" do or don't do anything is probably the kind of attitude that got you banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 01:41 AM
0

The current state of r/theredpill is garbage. That subreddit is full of losers masquerading as "alphas". It was way better a few years ago. It's actually not about hating women, despite what the kids on there would have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 01:35 AM
1

1.2m subscribers. 1.9m views on that video. That's definitely status.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 10:15 AM
2

I've seen them asking for help snd compassion as opposed to disgust from society. So yeah, they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 04:11 AM
4

If you want to actually analyze this from a redpill perspective, these men all have talent, wealth, and status and that's what actually makes women attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 02:48 AM
3

Incels have proven that some people won't even do the bare minimum to attract a mate since it requires any work at all. It won't make women lose weight, it will create a subculture of women that hate men for not liking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 01:29 AM
2

You claiming it's the best data because it's the only data we have doesn't validate it. It's still garbage. Lol. You don't get to invalidate scientific methods just because it benefits you. You need to supply better data if you want to make those claims. The burden of proof is on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 12:36 AM
5

That 80/20 stat is from a survey done by a dating website that was using it to reason against using tinder which is it's competitor. That makes it practically baseless as far as scientific research goes. That like having a study from quaker oats that says kids aren't actually coocoo for cocopuffs. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 11:59 PM
4

Average men don't have a hard time. You're below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 10:20 PM
2

It actually screams "I'm having sex while looking for a boyfriend but I'm not over concerned with the last part". Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 09:38 AM
2

I take it you were born out of wedlock then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 09:33 AM
0

20+ isn't that many over an 8 year period.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 06:10 AM
6

I just want to know exactly what kind of "help" incels are saying they should be given.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 03:25 AM
1

advice they know they've heard a hundred times Advice they always brush off with "thanks I'm cured" and never put into practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 03:03 AM
2

He didn't say you'd get laid by treating people better. He just said you won't be hated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 02:47 AM
1

How? Self improvement understanding women. It's not something you achieve over night. Maybe in a year you'll do better. But it takes time. Your early 20's are the easiest btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 09:37 AM
0

Being 5'5" and 30 is practically below average... I'm not here to gloat. But if I can obtain casual sex with decent looking women and the occasional "hot" one, you can too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 08:26 AM
1

What FDS regards as a HVM is not actually what society actually considers a high value male though. I will agree, FDS has the formula for finding exactly the type of male they want. But that doesn't equate to what is actually a high value male in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 08:23 AM
1

I'm as average as they get man. If I can "get there" you can too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 08:09 AM
0

Lol I don't like what you have to say but see no lies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 08:01 AM
1

high value relationships It's important to note that what constitutes a high value relationship according to FDS does not necessarily mean it's an ideal relationship. And also what constitutes a "high value male" according to FDS does not necessarily mean a man that most of society would consider high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 07:29 AM
1

K
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 01:00 AM
1

Ssshhhhh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:54 AM
1

You're asking him to leave a quick comment on something that's better explained in an essay. Just because you don't know, doesn't mean he's obligated to explain it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:37 AM
2

That's not the reason why they aren't getting dates though. They're all queens. Men are jusr trash. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 12:16 AM
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