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You need to give her an ultimatum. Stop the games man. Just tell her to take her clothes off or leave?
/r/seduction30/12/16 10:32 PM
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I second that. You're a models man
/r/seduction26/12/16 02:29 PM
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He's just an older version of your high school bully. He maybe saw you as an easy target of you were displaying anxiety or perhaps a threat to his alpha mindset if you weren't. I've had some guys try to physically attack me while out e.g. by shoving you when you're dancing. Girls don't like it. You don't need to fight in order to be their hero either. Just tell them this guy's an asshole. If he keeps bothering you and your company tell the bouncers.
/r/seduction24/12/16 07:09 AM
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Practice putting on a condom. Remember that it will take time to put it on so you might need to simulate yourself during this time or ask her to do so, otherwise you might lose your erection by the time it comes to insertion. Get used to talking to her during sex and being vocal about enjoying what you are doing.
/r/seduction07/12/16 01:27 PM
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I wouldn't go out of my way to talk to her but wouldn't go out of my way to avoid her either.
/r/seduction12/10/16 01:21 PM
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It's one of these things that if you try to do something to fix it it's just going to get worse. If anyone brings it up just say that you fancied her and she didn't so nothing happened. I met a girl at a party, call her Paraguay. Well we got on fairly well. I was quite drunk at the time but I had her as a friend on fb the next day so I assumed it had gone alright. I asked her out to get a hangover cure coffee and she never replied. Months later I was talking to her friend at a party and Paraguay…
/r/seduction12/10/16 12:43 PM
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Elizabeth Swann, Pirates of the Caribbean
/r/seduction09/10/16 08:40 PM
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That's a shame man. I've always wanted to get into day game because I see good looking girls around quite often and would like to be experienced to talk to them. Also with a day schedule (student) it's hard to spend time out late and not feel forced into succeeding. Look forward to reading the blog. Good to get some London stuff.
/r/seduction09/10/16 08:03 PM
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Wrong sub
/r/seduction09/10/16 07:52 PM
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Aw man. I know exactly what you went through but what others have said is right, there is no perfect time. You need to start right at the start in terms of pick-up. Try reading Mystery Method if you want to play the game properly, it's a good foundation to then work from
/r/seduction09/10/16 07:48 PM
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You can always call them out on it, "Did that kill the vibe? *laugh *shrug Everyone is different." With the sexuality you can open up about sexual things, an obsession with Emily Ratajkowski for example, or the difficulties involved with shaving your scrotum hahaha The most important thing is that opening up isn't a serious thing. You just tell them something because it was current and topical and you want to tell them. I knew a guy who would literally be at a party and then "open up" about how …
/r/seduction09/10/16 05:27 PM
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Hmm I see. That's sad man, you feel ashamed of who you are? Or is it just that you are so preoccupied with how people see you that you are afraid to show yourself truly? You simply want to be you, it's what comes easiest to you and the interactions with your friends where you get to be yourself are the ones you find most enjoyable (I guess right?) Then rationally you should be yourself around everyone and if someone reacts badly to that that is their imperfection not yours. I don't think you are…
/r/seduction09/10/16 04:49 PM
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Yeah exactly and you can go further. The other day I started a conversation with a girl that really revolved around me fainting one time at the sight of blood. It works because she's not thinking what an un-manly man, she just sees how confident I am with who I am and my ability to talk about it freely.
/r/seduction09/10/16 04:33 PM
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Be playful with her shyness. If you guys sit on a bench and she sits with a half metre between you, just turn to her, "come on you can come a little closer!" Or you can slide up to her, say you're sitting at a table in a bar and say "don't worry I don't bite." Make sure you smell good.
/r/seduction09/10/16 04:27 PM
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Just laugh at your failures. I remember being at a club with a group of my friends and we had had some stuff to drink. We were dancing in a little group and one of the guys tapped me on the shoulder and pointed at a blonde behind me and egged me on to go dance with her. I go to dance with her and she just takes one look at me and leaves. My friends are all laughing. I just turn around and go like this: https://media.giphy.com/media/xT9DPpcf2Aoj28QSEo/giphy.gif
/r/seduction09/10/16 04:22 PM
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I dunno but I listened to the whole thing. Seems like some sort of hypnotherapy audio.
/r/seduction09/10/16 01:22 PM
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She's on a date with you so you can assume she's attracted to you. The next step is to make them like you otherwise initial attraction will just burn out like kindling. For this you need to connect or get that vibe that man this girl is cool! We have stuff in common, I find her ideas interesting, she wants to go ice skating with me because neither of us can remember when we last went ice skating together etc. You need to make her think, yeah I was right about this guy, we should spend more time …
/r/seduction08/10/16 08:40 PM
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Man this is such a tough thing to do, but once you do life is just so much easier. I'm not really sure how to do it. You can try to rationalise the whole thing in your head and you soon realise that you simply want to be you, it's what comes easiest to you and the interactions with your friends where you get to be yourself are the ones you find most enjoyable (I guess right?) Then rationally you should be yourself around everyone and if someone reacts badly to that that is their imperfection not…
/r/seduction08/10/16 08:29 PM
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https://i.imgflip.com/1bzh3o.jpg
/r/seduction08/10/16 01:33 PM
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Trial and error. Don't believe everything you read on reddit.
/r/seduction08/10/16 10:22 AM
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Maybe schizophrenic-like outbursts might make a conversation perk up?
/r/seduction07/10/16 10:20 PM
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Everyone else seems to be answering the question. When to pull the trigger takes practice. How to pull the trigger takes creativity. Pulling the trigger takes guts and confidence. Also comparing yourself to others at parties in terms of women is like comparing your height to others during that puberty phase at school. Who grows first isn't necessarily the tallest in the end.
/r/seduction07/10/16 10:14 PM
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Great link
/r/seduction07/10/16 10:05 PM
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One tip is to tell her that you're going away, otherwise a couple of weeks will pass and then all of a sudden you want to meet her. That wouldn't be very coherent with the persona of a FF.
/r/seduction07/10/16 10:00 PM
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As /r/Fitness will tell you. Behind every hardworking guy in the gym is a broken heart. Now is your time to get in shape. Prepare for ups and downs, it's almost never plain sailing.
/r/seduction07/10/16 09:57 PM
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It's a nice comfort building time. Could you go for a creepy walk home in the park or forest? Great time for making out when it's dark as people feel less exposed. Would be a nice build-up to taking her home.
/r/seduction07/10/16 09:50 PM
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I'd rather look back at a set thinking I should have just left sooner than thinking I should have stayed longer.
/r/seduction07/10/16 09:46 PM
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Your reality is what matters and that will depend on the value you give your own interpretation of your status and the value you give other's interpretation of your status. I think that there is no way that you can really improve your perception of yourself simply by impressing people, and that a more effective method is to detach your ego from other people's thinking. So why go to all the bother of impressing people? Whatever reason you want. To have sex with the Emily Ratajkowski's of the worl…
/r/seduction07/10/16 09:40 PM
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You can turn that around and say, what value is everyone thinking you're the best if you think you're a piece of shit?
/r/seduction07/10/16 09:38 PM
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You can spend 2 hours in field without approaching anyone... Better to set an approach goal than a time goal.
/r/seduction02/10/16 07:01 PM
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Topless pic increases matches so long as it isn't a topless selfie. Try and get a topless photo with you doing something. I have one of me pole dancing which gets people's attention. My friend has one of him climbing. Others have the classic beach shot
/r/seduction28/05/16 05:41 PM
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Commercial breaks during TV time also are a good time. I remember being with a girl and we would only be able to watch a TV show to the first set of commercials before making out, touching and running to the bedroom
/r/seduction28/05/16 12:19 AM
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Three things for me: I started getting really good at a sport that I dedicated most of my free time to. People didn't know about my successes but I knew and that was powerful. A movie came out and I looked quite similar to one of the actors so much so that for a while everyone just keep pointing it out as if it was the first time I'd ever been told. He wasn't a stud model whatever but hey I looked a bit like "a" Hollywood actor so I got that going for me. Once I got more confident I became a lea…
/r/seduction11/05/16 09:16 AM
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I'm 22 and on 9. Game's on MOTHERFUCKER
/r/seduction28/04/16 09:35 PM
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You miss 100% of the shots you don't take
/r/seduction23/04/16 06:14 PM
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Well I met her at a party last night and we got on well, then I found a facebook add from her in the morning. So I messaged saying "Hey it was great meeting you last night. Do you want to go for a coffee at lunch time? I really need one haha" No reply which fair enough maybe was never gonna happen but I was pleased I messaged her. She is a 9. Short, brunette, very cute smile and cheerleader. Maybe she has a boyfriend, maybe she has shit to do but hey who knows what could have happened
/r/seduction23/04/16 06:00 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medication_overuse_headache Just sayin.
/r/seduction15/04/16 04:13 PM
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If you are dancing with her I'm guessing you have made physical contact with her. If not why not try just taking her hand, leading her away a bit or turning her to face you and holding both hands and then pull her in and kiss. By taking her hand(s) you can direct her and get her to face you, then it should be pretty natural.
/r/seduction15/04/16 10:55 AM
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Take the drugs. Normally it's just a temporary psychological thing. You'll be able to go without soon
/r/seduction11/04/16 07:36 PM
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/r/roastme
/r/seduction31/03/16 06:22 PM
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I think the Friedrich Nietzsche quote is really powerful and meaningful. I remember once going for a 227km (140 mile) cycle with some friends and the reason I did it was just that I decided to do it and didn't think about it. It's not really confidence in a sense as confidence means seeing the challenge and being 'confident' that you as a person can overcome the challenge. If I had known before how tough it would be I would probably not have left but the boldness, ignorance and simplification of…
/r/seduction04/03/16 03:58 PM
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Ok heres my advice. Following David Wygant's teaching that I listened to recently and have been using the last week: http://www.mediafire.com/?qju9iwmqkawc6cr So first talk to everyone on campus, including the guys and the security people and the cleaners, whatever. First just saying hi, then hey how's it going, then hey how's you day, then hey nice jacket (i.e. any compliment and start a conversation). Boom. It snowballs so quickly as your confidence grows but it resets almost each day so it is…
/r/seduction28/02/16 09:55 PM
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Well this is how you connect with a woman. You can still joke around at the start to break the ice and get her interested.
/r/seduction28/02/16 06:15 PM
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Sums up the community quite well
/r/seduction28/02/16 06:07 PM
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Well at least that sounds honest and I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that this is the problem. If you want to have a great conversation you need to be thinking things like "Who actually is this person?". Behind her name, her job, her home town, her address, her hair colour etc. who is she? What makes her tick? What does she go crazy for? If she could be anywhere in the world, where would she be, what would she be doing? What noises does she make when she's having sex? How did she get that…
/r/seduction28/02/16 05:45 PM
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Some ideas of conversation starters (I like to throw these in before I even introduce myself or ask their names): Talk about the party Talk about the decor of your own place Talk about your/their drinks Talk about the drunk guy that is making a fool of themselves Talk about how they all know each other Talk about their outfits Talk about how your hungry and could murder a pizza right now Once you break the ice, get to know them: who they are, what they do, why they do it, what they like, what th…
/r/seduction28/02/16 05:19 PM
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Hand on her hips. Start low and push into her as you draw up. You'll start with your glands on the mons pubis/bush and then track up over her clit before sliding into her. Don't go the other way otherwise you are just going to end up in her ass hole and that is generally a bit of a surprise for her and rarely a good one.
/r/seduction28/02/16 05:08 PM
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Pretend to be a guest and then reveal yourself later in the conversation or leave it to someone else to reveal you. I used to do this sort of thing when I ran a society, start talking to the newcomers as if I was also a newcomer and then leave the scenario. Later they would come up and be like "WTF?! You're the president of the society?!" I'm there grinning because I love messing with people like this. It also avoids the whole should I be humble or is that too beta or should I be more cocky or i…
/r/seduction28/02/16 05:04 PM
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Sounds like you're in the friend zone. There is information about what to do in the FAQ
/r/seduction28/02/16 04:25 PM
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Listen to these talks by David Wygant. Helped me out loads http://www.mediafire.com/?aperi484rb1f56b http://www.mediafire.com/?qju9iwmqkawc6cr
/r/seduction28/02/16 03:57 PM
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Firstly, have you checked that the pills are absolutely not to be taken with alcohol? In most cases, alcohol will simply make the pills less effective for a while. NB: I know it would be great to be able to game sober, but it can cause difficulties at parties where everyone is drinking to not be drinking. Girls sometimes don't want to get with a sober guy because there is a disparity in their social inhibition. Secondly, try to build day game. In the context of day game, sober is normal. Thirdly…
/r/seduction28/02/16 03:55 PM
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I've been in two relationships where the kissing changed remarkably between the first kiss and the end. You learn what each others styles are and how you like to position yourselves and it gets a lot better. Same goes for sex really.
/r/seduction28/02/16 03:45 PM
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So you're saying that if Ryan Gosling went around asking 19 year olds in the mall for their number they wouldn't report him because clearly he's so beautiful that they couldn't find him creepy? If you ask a girl for her number and she reports you to security, you've asked for her number far too early in the conversation. She needs to want to give you her number first, and sure looking good will help that but you need to attract her first no matter what you look like. You may never get to that po…
/r/seduction28/02/16 03:42 PM
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My advice is that if you struggle talking to the 50 year old guy that sits next to you on the bus you are going to have a hard time talking to the 10 that struts out of a restaurant on the street. AA is partially making yourself feel more confident to overcome the anxiety from starting a social interaction but also adjusting yourself so that social interactions produce less anxiety themselves if that makes sense.. If you say how is your day going or I love your jacket to everyone you meet it isn…
/r/seduction28/02/16 03:34 PM
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I second this! David Wygant preaches this approach and I've found it very helpful listening to his stuff. His main principles Talk to everybody Gain as much information about them as possible
/r/seduction28/02/16 03:17 PM
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What sort of things go through your head when you start a conversation with someone? How often do you have conversations with strangers?
/r/seduction28/02/16 03:14 PM
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Eh, people don't normally get reported to security for being ugly...
/r/seduction28/02/16 03:10 PM
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Talk to everyone! It snowballs into complete confidence and friends everywhere. Listen to this http://www.mediafire.com/?qju9iwmqkawc6cr
/r/seduction27/02/16 11:50 PM
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I think you just need to keep working on it. Maybe try saying things that you wouldn't normally feel confident saying just to try and see how they react. You can increase your pool of people by talking to absolutely anybody. If you can talk to a 70 year old granny doing her shopping then you will be able to find good topics of conversation with a young girl your age if that makes sense
/r/seduction27/02/16 07:00 PM
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Richard La Ruina does a good video on it. Check out his talk at 21 convention
/r/seduction27/02/16 06:50 PM
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I've experienced girls who I have sort of spotted giving me a disinterested look but then converted them once they hear me talking to their friends or they see how much their friends get on with me
/r/seduction27/02/16 05:51 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-unuqF4uklE Watch this for ideas for forcing IOIs if you are interested
/r/seduction27/02/16 04:32 PM
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I agree. I mean the first sentence makes so little sense really. If you are sorry to interrupt you obviously aren't sorry enough because you still chose to.
/r/seduction27/02/16 04:26 PM
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I would try not to stress about the comment you made or hooking her back. Maybe give her some space. My text game isn't great so I would just try and be flirty and confident, if she blanks you move on, if not arrange a date. By detective I mean try to get an understanding of the person and their life. Think less about asking what their favourite movie is and more about why it's their favourite movie. Think less about whether they like the city and more about why they came here
/r/seduction27/02/16 04:17 PM
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Were you only interested in her physically? I struggle to make a connection with girls that I am not interested in but a little technique I use is to try and be like a detective trying to understand their entire psyche. What are they doing? Why are they doing that rather than something else? What is the attraction in one thing or another? I think if you play the detective game she'll see that you are actually interested in her as a person. What do you think?
/r/seduction27/02/16 03:52 PM
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I second this. Talking to random strangers is a good way to get you in the right mindset and energy. I've been doing David Wygant's talk to everybody technique for the last few days and when I went out last night I was full of positive social energy after spending the whole day talking to people, girls, guys, old ladies, cashiers, security guards, my lecturer etc.
/r/seduction27/02/16 03:49 PM
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Good job man! How did the interaction go once you got over the approach anxiety?
/r/seduction27/02/16 03:15 PM
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Ok good that you have found some people to go out with. It sounds like your technique is quite poor though. My night game isn't great and I'm just a noob really so I can't give much advice but you need to work on your technique. You want to talk to them first rather than just grab them on the dance floor.
/r/seduction27/02/16 03:12 PM
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If you are asking for advice to get this one girl you are doing it wrong. Check the first question in the FAQ. I think from the sounds of it you have difficulty talking to her because you view her differently from everyone else. She is special. I would suggest listening to David Wygant's talk to everybody advice and put it into practise. It's really helpful at making conversation fluent with all people and reducing approach anxiety. The idea is that you talk to everyone about anything and that w…
/r/seduction27/02/16 03:06 PM
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Good job for trying. Could you tell us more about your approach, how you were feeling at the time, who you were with, if anyone etc. and we can help you out
/r/seduction27/02/16 02:59 PM
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Also in the UK. Also agree with the others in the thread that you aren't ugly. What techniques or PUAs do you subscribe to or use in your interactions? I think for you it is a matter of technique and inner game. You could maybe improve your look a bit if you ask any gay friends for advice which is what I did.
/r/seduction27/02/16 02:57 PM
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It's generally socially inappropriate to make eye contact with someone you aren't interacting with and so they are conditioned socially to react in this way. Doesn't mean don't do it, it's a very important part of body language for pickup
/r/seduction27/02/16 01:10 PM
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Try talking to random people rather than just hot girls. This is a good way to keep the social momentum going and keep your mouth working. Just walk up to someone in a store and ask them about their day or what they are looking for or which item they prefer etc. Then when the girl comes along she's just another person to talk to
/r/seduction27/02/16 01:08 PM
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I think you might want to listen to this. It is David Wygant talking about meeting women and talking to people. I'm also a newbie but I've been doing this for a week around college and in the street and on public transport and it's been so rewarding and boosted my confidence a lot. Will it get you laid? Possibly. Will it motivate you? Definitely. http://www.mediafire.com/?qju9iwmqkawc6cr
/r/seduction27/02/16 01:05 PM
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Do you ever try talking to people without thinking about pick-up?
/r/seduction27/02/16 12:58 PM
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I can second this. They have got friends too
/r/seduction26/02/16 01:12 PM
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Yes, absolutely ok to approach without an eye invitation. You can then build attraction and you'll start to see that eye contact you mention
/r/seduction24/02/16 07:10 PM
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Very alpha opener. Good job. You should have put a slip in the guys pocket with reddit.com/r/seduction written on it.
/r/seduction23/02/16 10:22 PM
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I completely agree. Would be much better than the 100sets subreddit too
/r/seduction23/02/16 10:17 PM
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Looking in the reflection isn't good. Look at her straight in the eye next time displays more confidence. Looking at the reflection could be like you are just checking her out but not confident to look straight at her which isn't as good
/r/seduction23/02/16 09:10 AM
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This is true. My results changed a lot when I changed photos. The biggest change was actually when I put a photo of me doing a pole fitness topless as my second image which was interesting. Tbh tinder is just a side game I use to practise some of what I read
/r/seduction22/02/16 06:33 AM
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Yeah I guess we'll see haha
/r/seduction22/02/16 06:29 AM
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Link to video plz?
/r/seduction21/02/16 07:41 PM
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This thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c
/r/seduction21/02/16 12:35 PM
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Check out Richard laruina's stuff on physical escalations. He explains how to make out with a girl that doesn't stop talking
/r/seduction20/02/16 08:53 AM
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Depends where you want the thing to go. If you want her to be on the defensive then ok. I suppose that if you qualify it with a "Your resting bitch face is actually kinda hot" then that would be a classic neg. I know people here want to seduce women without being assholes which is fine but I feel you can be nice to her on a second date or in a relationship. Insults like this can be attractive in the sense that 1) you've shown no fear of her rejecting you by giving her a reason to do so, thus you…
/r/seduction17/02/16 08:03 AM
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I'll check it out, thanks
/r/seduction17/02/16 07:43 AM
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I might try that approach at some point. I know talking about her is good but I think you need to get the hook before you start connecting otherwise it's still just a bit boring and can stagnate after a short period. And I think to get the hook you need to show value, not necessarily through boasting but through conversation skills and confidence and keep her on her toes with playful flirting.
/r/seduction17/02/16 07:23 AM
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I've started doing cold approaches as well. It's good for meeting people to go out with and get you thinking about what do I need to say to get this girl interested in me. But if your problem is aa then yeah stay off it as matching one in a hundred girls will not help that XD
/r/seduction17/02/16 07:15 AM
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I suppose that is the ignore strategy but I was still flirting with her at this stage so I wanted something a bit more flirty than "if you say so"
/r/seduction16/02/16 09:58 PM
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I rarely come the first time I have sex with someone. It's just about being comfortable with them and what you are doing.
/r/seduction15/02/16 09:48 PM
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Beta-blockers affect the somatic component of anxiety but not the cognitive one. They don't work in all people with anxiety because of this. What everyone recommends on this sub is that you get over your anxiety by exposing yourself to those situations more and more and more until you are comfortable as you learn that there is no great negative consequence from failure, rejection doesn't sting etc. There are two approaches in cognitive behavioural therapy for doing this, the first is a slow grad…
/r/seduction13/02/16 03:44 PM
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If you can, sit next to a window where you can do some people watching. That way if there is ever a moment in the conversation you feel like you don't know what to say the people you see on the street will give you something to talk about so you can say "Hey look at them, what are they doing with all that shopping?"
/r/seduction13/02/16 12:37 PM
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