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DiscussionPacman124/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:10 PM
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Question For WomenPacman124/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 06:41 PM
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No, mainly because I don't have one myself
/r/seduction07/05/24 05:16 PM
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Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:26 PM
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They do exist but in my experience it's rarely the case. People mature with age and aren't that delusional. Of course men of all ages are physically attracted to women in their early twenties but other factors have to be considered for a relationship that will influence their RMV. I'm 26 and wouldn't relate enough to a 20 year old girl to spend genuine time together, hot or not. It also helps that I'm put off by casual things or ONS so I'm pretty much only compatible with women my age (or slight…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:23 PM
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It depends on what you mean by high standards. The ones I have are applied for myself too. No sexual history or at least not a big one, no tattoos or piercings (it's a detail but it's something i find extremely unattractive and needless to say that I don't have any myself), no social media presence (in the sense that I don't post pictures of myself on instagram, let alone shirtless ones for example), average looking, physically fit or at least active, no revealing attire (I dress either modestly…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:52 PM
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Would never date a single mother, but the "men" in the comment section are straight up assholes and don't represent the average guy's perspective on dating a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:37 AM
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No i'm not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:44 PM
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TIL I'm a volcel
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:43 PM
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Most incels are not good people because they're undesirable, not the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:13 AM
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Life's just a fucking joke lol Intelligence and ambition is also genetic. Imagine you lack those AND you are aware of it. It's a constant mental battle that you loose
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:37 PM
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Hook-up culture benefits noone other than the top 10% of men. Women: get stringed along by men who will pretend to move on to something serious get a lot of emotional baggage have a harder time to pair bond get excluded for commitment by a non negligable amount of men later on because of their n count get unwanted pregnancies Average men: became even lonelier and disposable than before can't even participate are served of a dating pool with women unable to pair bond are faced with women in the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:54 PM
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Women enjoy having the upperhand in dating either because of some form of hidden misandry and wanting to see men suffer or just the enjoyment of being at the top of something over men compared to the mainstream opposite throughout history. This is why the hardcore feminists dislike men who watch porn. Because men deviate the attention they should've gotten towards it. This is why they dislike passport bros. Because men deviate the attention they should've gotten towards foreign women. This is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:44 PM
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My thoughts exactly. I don't blame women one bit for their high standards. When men are so desperate that they give below average women so much attention to the point where they start to think they're above average, it just shows how low men have fallen. Pathetic rats The worst are the top percentile of men who can't stay in their own league and pump and dump potential relationship partners for guys like us and leave them with a handful of emotional baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:05 PM
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-Stop cooking, cleaning and having sex with a man and see how quickly his “love” runs out Yes, become a useless wanker who doesn't contribute to anything, that's everything a partner longs for -Their penis and sexual gratification will always come before their “love” for you His sexual gratification is yours and vice versa, that's how a healthy relationship is supposed to work. You can't polarize romance by dividing sex and "love" and oppose them. If that was the case, men wouldn't go far and be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:22 PM
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-Enroll in some IT programmes to get knowledge about coding etc. -Be geographically flexible, work remotely -Trading -Improve my dancing skills -Bulk -Hair transplant -Toyota GR86 -Own a bungalow
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:57 AM
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Just world fallacy. Only good men have sex and are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:39 AM
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It kinda resonates with a post of mine I made roughly a week ago. Most people were kind of pessimistic about the whole thing including women themselves. The post was basically about what your dating life will become after your 30s as an undesirable man. The truth is noone but men like us, will care about the issue. No woman is going to feel bad for overlooking a random dude in their life, it's normal. AF BB is the real deal and every man that isn't at the top of the top is going to experience it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:07 PM
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I'd value my friends less than my wife if I had one, else I would'nt have decided to spend the rest of my life with her. A "date" is just the first stage of a romantic relationship, so you can't compare it to friends you've known for years
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:22 AM
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Because platonic relationships are less valuable than romantic ones. Why is the second placed athlete in a sports tournament upset in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:16 PM
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Can you expand on the don't talk too much. I generally tend to observe more than actually talk during social gatherings, but haven't seen yet how it would be beneficial for dating purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:35 PM
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I don't know. I see 2 types of abundance, physical and mental. Physical abundancy is the one you're referring to, getting a lot of attention. On the other hand, mental abundance is your attitude towards the attention you get or lack thereof. If you don't put women on a pedestal, aren't desperate, stay indifferent to women's actions towards you, you're mentally abundant. In the end, my goal is to maximize my life. Sometimes, it's just better to stay alone rather than with someone who might not be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:28 PM
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I relate to that, but that's dipping in bitterness and too much of a black and white view, since you never met the woman before. Honestly, I'll ask myself this question if I get to the point where they're actually interested: Would she have ignored me 10 years ago and I can only imagine that in the vast majority of the cases, the answer would be yes, so it all pretty much boils down to how I interpret the way she perceives me. Am I desirable to her or just the dating retirement home. This is how…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:06 AM
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I generally spot the beta bucks tendencies and try to avoid them. Looksmaxx etc. is what I'm implying with self improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:46 PM
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It numbs you after a while honestly. I'm more laid back about the whole mess than i give myself credit for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:39 PM
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So beta bucks, pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:35 PM
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Your comment is probably the most positive one of all. You seem like you gained experience in your 20s though so that might've played an important role
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:35 PM
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I know, but I don't exactly expect to have a serious relationship if my date makes it clear that it's casual
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:28 PM
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I do notice that the more I age, especially with the self improvement, the less I care about the outcome. If I wrote this post just 1.5 year ago, I would probably come off as more depressed. Honestly, if by 30, I'm at my individual peak (regardless of dating success or not), and I don't care about women anymore, I would be content
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:26 PM
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So pretty much a beta bucks. You didnt't read my post, but i talked about it. That would be a massive fail if I were to become that, but I've consumed too much of the pills that I instantly recognize this pattern, so it will be quite easy for me to filter out women who are settling for me and don't desire me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:04 PM
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Yeah that one's rubbing me the wrong way lol. I pretty much step into dating market where the bar is the highest and pretty much missed the whole having fun scene that you get in your 20's. I hope I'll get over it, because this can have a massive influence on my personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:54 PM
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True. I should probably find a child-free semi casual relationship type of woman as a first to gain some experience and then find someone serious when I'm ready to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:51 PM
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Yeah, I also don't think that all women past 30 "hit the wall" or are damaged goods. You'd have to analyze every single one of them to come to that conclusion and since women aren't a monolith,you'll probably find gems somewhere along the way. The main issue here is about actually finding them, which seems to apparently become more difficult the older we get
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:49 PM
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I'm not really part of the passport bro thing, but i kind of understand where they're coming from. I still wouldn't change my entire lifestyle just for women, I'm not actually desperate. If I find noone, I'll have to accept it, but I'll keep the relocating project in my head, you never know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:44 PM
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Interesting. What was better and if you're still single, who does your dating pool consist of?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:41 PM
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True, so it's always worth to keep improving, even for non dating purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:40 PM
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Women will suddenly want to settle with you and push for it, either you magically become more attractive overnight, or there is some truth to "The Wall" and AF/BB. This is one of my main concerns. If I'm inexperienced, you can't really expect me to become a rolemodel husband right off the bat. If my first ever girlfriend, should I get one, wants to get married etc. within the next couple of years, I will have to break it off Also, women who do not want to settle and just have fun will be more op…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:33 PM
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Both men and women are physically attracted to each other. Men are biologically wired to procreate as much as possible, so they find most of them attractive. Women can't procreate as much as possible, so they are biologically wired to maximize the quality of it, therefore, they're only attracted to the best archetype of men's look (top 5%). That's on paper. In reality, it's a bit different as you see average men and even below average men who are in relationships, because women, as any other hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:16 PM
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Damn, bro, you didn't have to spit those resonating facts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:33 PM
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Yeah. It seems you have a whole set of tactics that you use to try to break the ice with a woman such as predetermined catchphrases, a certain modus operandi irl etc. The thing is that litteral dumbasses easily get the attention of women, let alone are pursued by them without needing to count the success percentage or using certain strategies, just because they were gifted with great genetics. Dating isn't supposed to be difficult and shouldn't require a 12 step program to follow. If you struggl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:51 PM
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Honestly, pursuing women is truly a waste of time in most cases
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:32 PM
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It's sad that it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:11 PM
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The rating system is based on a set of criteria that have to be respected, it has no correlation with the population constitution. The average woman in the US is a 4, possibly even between a 3 and a 4 Now to your question, no, not necessarily, there are other criteria that apply other than the weight. if she has an ugly face and is healthy weight, for example, that doesn't make her a 7
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:16 AM
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Except it's nothing more than a ticking time bomb, because unless your IQ is in the negatives, you will sooner or later be aware of the deception and the longer you stayed in it, the more violently reality hits you. Living in a fantasy isn't the right thing to do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:02 PM
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While the idea of male spaces triggers some people from a certain spectrum, they definitely exist. Frat like groups, men getting together and doing stuff. Every second weekend, I meet 4-5 friends and we smoke a cigar and drink rhum while playing poker. I'm at a point where I rarely interact with women anymore, so i'm pretty much constantly immerged in male spaces. Even just fishing with a friend alone at the lake is technically a male space in my book It's just not outright specified.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:05 PM
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The problem is that if you're thin, "slightly toned" (assuming you don't mean muscular without steroids) only works with a specific profile e.g. someone with thick hair, boy band type of guy, pretty boy If you're short and bald, it's just not possible
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:41 AM
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In other words, have the cake and eat it too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:54 PM
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You can jack off without watching porn
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:23 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers in the sexual market. Deadbeat dads are deadbeat dads because a woman selected them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:08 AM
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Men will sleep with the vast majority of women if they can. Your friend sleeping with a doctor doesn't mean the latter desires her. She's simply put, not ugly enough to not be fucked by him, which isn't quite a feat. The truth is that the men that would date her, aka 5"2' 250 lbs men, aren't even in her radar. If she stops focusing on the top 10% that is obviously out of her league, she might find someone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:36 AM
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You know the same could be said about men having to approach hundreds of women only to get rejected countless times. Approaching has its perks and most of the time, the person you approach isn't worth approaching. However, since women are more selective, to begin with, it would be in their best interest to approach compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:54 AM
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Except that both are viewed in a different way by men and women respectively. Men don't respect the whore but worship Madonna, while women don't respect BB and worship the Alphafux
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:28 AM
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I guess it's more because of an abundance mentality which men don't have. If men had more opportunities to get into relationships as they wanted, a lot would be content being single aswell. Tell a kid that spends too much time playing video games in their room that they can't leave it from now on and they all of sudden will have a problem with it We will never have this abundance of opportunities as mostly average/below average men. That's just something we have to accept. In contrast, we have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 06:06 PM
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It's called having standards, and those aren't even high ones. Sure if you want to fuck as many women as possible, you go for everyone in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:04 PM
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We've been told countless times in this sub that these women were part of the minority, so it might not make much of a difference anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:12 PM
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Your friends are voluntarily celibate because the men on their level don't want to date them, which leaves them only the options of lower-value men. For every high-value woman, there is a high-value man, maybe your friends aren't that desirable or high-value since they seem to attract only the same type of men that they don't want. You're pretty much condensing the dynamic between men and women by slamming low-value men (who have always existed) for not deserving high-value women. Yeah no sh*t, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 05:50 PM
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It's not necessarily the man that proposes let alone initiated. Out of the two parties, it's generally the beta bux searching woman that generally puts an emphasis on marriage. Betas just go along with it. As I said, they are settling because it's pretty much the only time they'll get a chance to be in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:43 AM
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it really doesn't lol. I've seen attractive guys behave however they wanted and didn't struggle at all. Obviously, don't be an asshole though. I'd rather be nice and attractive rather than an asshole and attractive. Just don't expect anything for being nice aka being a niceguy tm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 06:35 AM
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You're watching this from a woman's lens. From a man's perspective, even if your post was true, which I agree/disagree with 50/50, the beta is destined to be miserable. You don't escape the emotional baggage of having been overlooked for more than a decade only to be "finally" acknowledged by an older version of someone who would've gagged several years ago if considering being with you. Anecdotal evidence but since it's showing a clear trend, I don't think it's a coincidence. A lot of men I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 11:19 PM
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I don't think niceness just even be considered at all when dating. It should be a static factor, aka just be nice by default and to everyone, not just women, especially the fake niceness tm (that boys get brought up with). It has no added value whatsoever. Nice attractive guys date, asshole attractive guys too. I'd say it's even more complicated than that, as niceness isn't a black and white phenomenon but rather a spectrum. (Genuine) niceness can even be a turn-off if you're a doormat or never …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:35 PM
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Bluepill upbringing mostly by women. They pretty much create what they hate. Since you're a kid, you're being told that women like nice guys, and that all it takes to be desirable is this (indirectly assumed, since the only topic being discussed was niceness). I used to discuss this with some of my friends and arguably the entirety of their female role models never went in depth about how you have to max out your looks, etc. In more traditional households, the importance of status and financial …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:21 PM
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thanks, been doing the self improvement stuff for a while now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 11:06 PM
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Yeah i guess 🤷‍♂️ Thanks for the push. Writing the comment has kinda triggered the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 01:43 PM
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24 and virgin here. Not by choice obviously. There's worse although I have emotional moments of deep, heavy loneliness at least once a day where it's difficult to even move and be productive. I get by, by filling my days with studying, hobbies. platonic social interactions etc. Nothing can replace companionships though. I don't think I'll ever really move on with my undesirability. I think it's the same for most men unless they're predisposed to not minding being alone or being asexual. Any stra…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 12:42 PM
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It would significantly reduce betabux situations as men, even average or below average ones wouldn't settle for just about anyone for ltr now that they know their sexual history. it would create a lot of complexes (arguably on women with high n counts and men with low or no n counts). Men would pay hookers en masse just to increase their number. Of course, some low-n count men and high-n count women will not care in the slightest and live their lives normally. Low n count women will be sought ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 08:27 AM
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Humans are made for companionship, unless he's an asexual introvert. I get it that you can't force people to have a relationship with you, but you can't force men to accept being alone neither Paying x amounts of bucks to "help" you cope, only to end up repressing your desires is very unhealthy in the long run, unless he's naturally predisposed to not minding being alone. That's like telling a homeless person to enjoy nature outside instead of getting out of their condition. Lastly, not all unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:22 PM
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Comparing a man sleeping around and a woman sleeping around doesn't make sense. Should some rich kid get recognition for getting a luxury car from his dad as much as the one working for it? After all, they both have the same car in the end This is exactly the dynamic in the whole sex sphere between men and women. Women can get intimacy easier, but the toll of that is the potential judgment they will face from others, just look at the comments, or even real life for that matter, I'm not making th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:21 PM
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It's significantly more difficult for a man to sleep around than a woman. A man sleeping around is kind of admirable imo, and I'm not even into casual sex to say that. Women sleeping around inspire me with a lack of self-control, impulsiveness, and no self-respect (the vast majority of the men they sleep with casually don't respect them/ see them as relationship material), as it takes virtually no effort for them to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:01 PM
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From the moment you have preferences/dealbreakers, you judge and there's nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 09:48 PM
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No, the top 5% of men would simply have more hookups than they already do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:51 PM
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The vast majority of guys wants to be marriage material, just not in a beta bux sense, which is seemingly always perceived that way when people talk about "marriage material". If you are genuinely marriage material, you are pretty much alpha bux, thus the best of both sides. Meanwhile, no woman prefers to be hookup material in an absolute sense. It's a case-by-case situation where she is physically attracted to you, but not to your relationship traits. Your girlfriend might or might not be an ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:37 PM
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If you're an unattractive guy who self-improves, you might become more attractive to women in your age bracket later on. Unfortunately, that's all you can get if you hoped to get younger women (I'm talking about genuine attraction, no beta buxxing, gold-digging, etc.) A minority can attract them, but they were most probably already attractive when younger to begin with. Still trying to come to terms with this tbh, so I hope I won't be too bitter once I reach +35 years and my dating life hasn't i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:50 PM
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in denial of what? I'm between red and black pilled and AF/BB is a thing, but you can't just twist the definition of it to your liking. You're betabux if your wife settled for you and isn't attracted to you physically. If she has good/hot sex with you (the wording is completely irrelevant, thinking you could use that as an argument is hilarious), you're not betabux
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:50 PM
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"good sex" indicates that she wants to be with someone she's physically attracted to, which contradicts the core point of AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:38 PM
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We'll never come to a world where most men let alone every man wants to be of high value AND put the work in to become one. Doing that will already make you part of the top minority. I would have agreed if you claimed that not everyone can be part of the top 1-5% since not everyone has the same desirability potential despite whatever they'll do to improve themselves and the competition is just too ridiculous because at the very top, you'll face guys that are naturally (genetically) superior to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 10:17 PM
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No, Madonna is respected and put on a pedestal by men while beta bux is only used and resented in the long run by women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:40 PM
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I don't think the premise is entirely correct. You can become jaded from being a virgin, feeling undesirable, etc. It doesn't have much to do with experience and even then, if we're answering your question literally, it depends on people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:36 PM
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You can have a lot of things to talk about, but if there's no one willing to listen, you might as well keep it to yourself. The same goes for hobbies. I have petty niche hobbies (even though I do some simpler stuff on the side like hiking etc.). For me to captivate a woman with at least one of the hobbies, she has to 1) share at least one of the hobbies or have some general knowledge about them so we can have a discussion, 2) be willing to talk about it with me or 3) she doesn't share any of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:31 PM
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Because modernity. We are encouraged to consume porn, to be politically correct, to believe that being morbidly obese is healthy, to believe that all men are bad etc. Encouraging promiscuous behavior is just another bullet point in the decadence spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:47 PM
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No one needs to have a hoe phase. People who do have it, do it for 2 reasons mainly: 1) They simply want it or 2) they think they need it or a mix of both. Most men don't have a hoe phase (mainly because they can't afford it). Most women can afford it but don't necessarily have one. It's not an essential need
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:25 PM
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Well, obviously not since women aren't a monolith themselves. An inexperienced woman would be the best fit for an inexperienced man. Fact is that an inexperienced man (and woman, gender isn't even relevant here) is more prone to being used or taken advantage of regardless of their maturity. Take a look at this comment, I just think this is messed up. She is glad he doesn't have baggage so he can deal with her's. For me this is exploitation and there's something extremely unhealthy about how this…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:16 PM
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Life changes you as a person as the years go on in different areas except those where you didn't have experience beforehand. You might eventually deal with the inexperience differently when you're older than when you're younger due to external factors that shaped your maturity etc., but if you've never had a relationship at 30 e.g., you have no clue what you're doing and what you actually want which leaves you prone to vulnerability and exploitation if you mistakenly chose a shitty partner
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:56 PM
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Being an extrovert doesn't mean having a better personality than being an introvert. Moreover, if a struggling introvert forces himself into extraversion to attract a woman, he'll only end up more miserable than he already was beforehand. This isn't something you can change within yourself on a whim, exceptions excluded. The best you can do is pretend
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 04:42 PM
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Because women are naturally desirable to men. "Self-improving" in order to attract the opposite sex is an absurd thing for women to do, to begin with in my opinion. If you're a woman and not fat, you're attractive to 90% of men so there's no self-improvement needed. However, for the small percentage of straight-up ugly women where this absurd self-improvement is not even enough to attract a man, there's nothing else she can do. On the other hand, men have a vast pallet that they can self-improve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:34 PM
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Ugly women post self-improvement/looksmaxing have it worse than ugly men. Albeit, we're talking about a very small percentage like 1-2%. Most women who take care of themselves will be desirable, even below-average-looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:48 PM
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Every short bald man knows that his traits are anything but desirable to women. Some work their way around it but it is never an advantage to be those things If anything it's always women that tell us that height etc. doesn't matter. Glad to have the opposite confirmed by a woman. At least, we reach a middle ground for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:10 PM
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Depends on her history. I'm a virgin (not by choice), so for me, sex or no sex won't change much. I can wait if it makes her more comfortable. However, if she used to have sex left and right in the past but wants to wait with me, I'm not going to compromise on that. I'll assume she is not physically attracted to me and probably leave. I'll probably never get into a relationship with a high-n count woman anyway as there's too big of a difference in experience which doesn't motivate me to find som…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:38 PM
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You can only match with 1 person at a time and unmatch after you've had at least a little conversation. This would push users to treat their counterparts more as people rather than numbers and men who already struggle to get a match will be able to use the rare opportunities they get to the fullest. Height and BMI, which are the most important traits for women and men respectively on average, should be visible and mandatory to add so people won't waste time on the match they get, should they stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:00 PM
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Women's body standards are pretty much summed to "just don't be fat". Men's standards not only depend on a lot of hard work which you already mentioned but the most important ones are literally defined by your genetics. When you think of the ideal man, he's mostly tall and has a decent face, bare minimum. The ideal man from afar is at least that. Add some personal maintenance e.g. hygiene, sports, etc and he's good. Women are naturally desirable providing they're not fat. The ideal woman could b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:27 PM
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From the occasional times I've lurked there it seems they are confusing "avoiding men that screw you" with "screw them all first before one of them eventually does it". If it was the first, I wouldn't have any problems with it, but it's more the latter than anything else. I've read the vilest misandrist crap over there, but according to them, it's ok because they finally have a supposed female space and at least they don't commit murders like incels do. Congratu-fucking-lations, have a cookie. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:56 AM
1

If 90% of the date is about "what you bring to the table" and roughly 10% is about getting to know each other and talking about actual fun interests that aren't your CV, what does the man gain in the whole deal? You can be "serious" and not boring at the same time. Sounds like an entertaining evening... It's not like you're already pounded with work during the whole week that you can't even enjoy your week-ends for a woman you barely know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:19 PM
5

Men, unlike women aren't hypergamous which implies they are physically attracted to a wide range of women. One man's 10 might be a chubbier/shorter woman while for someone else, she'd have to be thinner and taller etc. Women, on the other are always attracted to a limited set of physical aspects to the point that if you miss one or more of them, you become gradually physically more and more undesirable without question. These traits are: -being tall -great facial structure (jawline, cheekbones, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:21 PM
3

The fact that I've been telling it's a spectrum several times insinuates that it's not black and white. Less attractive people are desired but not to the same extent as top-tier looks people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:49 PM
2

The ratings don't have the same measurements across the numbers. You're right that there isn't a big difference past 8, but it's completely irrelevant. I don't think Chad 9/10 really cares that one woman preferred his 8/10 friend rather than him because he'll easily replace her anyways. However, there is a bigger difference between a 5 and 6 (and an even bigger difference between a 6 and 7) than there is between an 8 and a 9. Couple that with the fact that average men are the majority, and have …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:53 PM
2

Obviously, the closer the ratings, the closer their attraction potential will be defined by one or another person's subjective opinion. However, even here, if you put a 9 next to an 8, if you asked a large number of people who they preferred, the majority would still choose the 9, even if it wasn't by much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:27 PM
5

Some don't
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:08 PM
4

Ok, so if all men have the potential to rely on their physical appearance to attract women, how come most men are unable to have casual sex while it's seemingly always the same minority of men that get it easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:00 PM
5

Your partner must be top tier lookswise For reference I have never seen a man in the street and experienced “raw attraction” for him. Most men you see in the street are average. Have you done casual hookups in the past if it's not too personal of a question? It might be true that YOU are only truly attracted to women who look like models, but this isn’t true for everyone. Of course, a model is more attractive than an average woman, but never did I imply that I'm only attracted to them. Men, unli…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:49 PM
8

Isn’t raw attraction more than looks? No, it's the opposite ​ And aren’t looks universally different for everyone. Yes, in the sense that an 8/10 man might be preferred over another 8/10 man or vice versa. But there is an objective consensus about who is attractive and who isn't. A 4/10 man is no match for an 8/10 man Here are some photo examples: https://imgur.com/a/VDtY1AF https://imgur.com/a/aBinfMW https://imgur.com/a/wkUQL7W https://imgur.com/a/OvpoftC https://imgur.com/a/tDLpSpS It's cryst…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:39 PM
6

Raw attraction is if you think the person is perfect looking before even getting to know them. Those are the guys women have casual sex with. Most men don't fall under this category and make it up with other qualities like their RMV, their personality, the way they make their partner feel beyond the physical aspect. This is just reality. It's absurd to even think that most men can only rely on their physical appearance to attract (raw attraction), most men are invisible, I don't think you realiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:09 PM
2

Truly desired is the raw attraction you have for someone. Desired to a lesser extent, would still imply there is an attraction but the person in question is visibly less attractive than the one you have "raw attraction" for. What could make you choose the decent-looking guy instead of the very attractive one would be his RMV, social status, etc., but it doesn't change the fact that you're physically less attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:51 PM
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Why is so hard to admit that attractive people are attractive... Yes, I, as an average guy, will never be a match against top 10% men on a physical attraction perspective. This is called knowing your place. You also misunderstood what I wrote. I didn't imply that people that aren't toptier can't be desired. The whole attraction system is a spectrum. I will probably be appreciated by someone the way I am at some point but never to the extent top 10% men are. Billy Beta mentionned in the OP is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:43 PM
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It's a spectrum. You're not either completely desired or settled for. Chad is entirely desired, ok fair enough, but if I'm desired, even if it's less than Chad, I'm fine with it. If I'm settled for more than I'm desired, that's what I would consider BB. Yes and no for the women. Attractive women are more desirable than less attractive ones, but since most women are attractive to men, you will be most likely genuinely appreciated by your partner and not settled for "what you bring on table"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:32 PM
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Billy Beta is happy because he thinks he is in a relationship with someone that truly desires him. Like you said ignorance is bliss. If Billy swallowed the redpill, it wouldn't be the case anymore. It depends on the men in question and their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:10 PM
2

I think that's the men they're truly attracted to physically. A boyfriend or husband might be less attractive than their casual fb's, but somehow make it up with their companionship qualities etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:02 AM
2

only willing to have sex with a small group of them. it’s because they’ve probably suffered a lot more bad experiences from them 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:45 PM
4

What's your take on "Chadfish" experiments where incels/blackpillers created tinder profiles with pictures depicting very attractive men and inversely very repulsive bio's (openly admitting to being sexual predators for instance etc.), hitting up women with very low effort and talking to them in a condescending way and despite all of this getting a pass because the women in question were immensely attracted to them. ​ If I'm not mistaken, there was a whole subreddit with this content, so it's sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:52 PM
3

I think men and women are sexually attracted to each other the same way. The only difference is that while men find most women attractive, women only find the top percentage of men truly attractive. The only thing that keeps them from sleeping with someone they are attracted to are the risks involved in it as in how the man will behave that might negatively impact them since women are physically weaker on average (which correlates to the comments about feeling comfortable that I read scrolling t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:55 PM
1

I think people are misunderstanding this post (or I am perhaps). Scrolling through the comment section, i saw stuff about "entitlement", "being busy", "not being a teenager who hangs out at her phone all the time" and I can't fathom people are perceiving this as men being owed something when it's just a sign giver. OP was talking about the "fuck yes" attitude that women give off when they interact with someone they're interested in. That doesn't necessarily correlate with responding right away. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:18 PM
1

the vast majority of men you've interacted with are a small subset of the total percentage, probably all the same type of dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:47 PM
1

Video games don't require much effort which is a huge redflag in women's eyes so a man that lists videogames as one of his hobbies will at best make no difference and at worst make him undesirable. The average man has only value if he "makes efforts" and puts something on the table unless he is top tier lookswise (which is why deadbeat irresponsible "chads" get laid all the time) If you like videogames, don't put them off because women don't like it. Put yourself first. A woman that doesn't acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:21 PM
2

That's fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:20 PM
1

Video games don't require much effort which is a huge redflag in women's eyes so a man that lists videogames as one of his hobbies will at best make no difference and at worst make him undesirable. The average man has only value if he "makes efforts" and puts something on the table unless he is top tier lookswise (which is why deadbeat irresponsible "chads" get laid all the time)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:13 PM
1

mostly hamza, his videos are very positive and I've never heard him say any bad things about women (unless I missed something). He mostly makes videos about self-improvement, clearing bad habits, hygiene, etc., but since he is a reference in the redpillosphere and has referred to the red pill himself, I guess watching his videos might be following red pill content edit: https://www.youtube.com/c/Hamza97/videos in case you're curious, just by looking at the video titles will give you an idea what…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:44 PM
0

yeah, that's the point... incels are the ones who shift blame, but since most romantically unsuccessful men aren't part of the whole incel cult, most of the time, it's just a matter of having no luck and clue of what the actual faults you're referring to are. If unsuccessful men have no clue what's wrong with them assuming they already "improved" a lot in all facets of their lives, then there is not much to do, so it's understandable for them to be upset. Yeah, people don't want to help, but it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 11:23 PM
1

The radically frustrated ones who eventually sip into hatred, think i*ls, are entitled and legit complain about women's choices but most of the time, frustrated men are just upset about their own state of undesirability without any much clue about what else to improve, assuming they already did a lot beforehand so once in a while, they vent. It's important to differenciate the two
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 07:28 PM
1

https://imgur.com/a/byefoHV
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:09 PM
1

Could you please develop your comment? I don't really understand in what way you think that a man dedicating a significant amount of his time to personal development/self-improvement doesn't cater to your values. Seems like a good deal objectively to have a partner that aspires to greater things and to improve
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:44 PM
2

To extend my question. Would it still be the case if he didn't necessarily subscribe to it but only focused on the personal self-improvement tips that it gives? In my case, I usually watch the videos that focus on implementing good habits to boost discipline, self-care tips about maintaining a good, masculine appearance, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:23 AM
2

Thanks 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:25 PM
3

For me it's important to be able to assess the sexual market, that there is some sort of structure that defines what makes you desirable. I think that there is some truth in all the pills ranging from blue to black. I try to implement them to myself as a young man. I want to understand why I'm an undesirable virgin and there are specific reasons why I am. Some things can't be changed like my below average height (1m70) or the fact that I'm balding, that I don't have a chadlike facial structure a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:22 PM
4

Nice guys/girls TM are people who act nice in order to get something in return. Their behaviour isn't genuine which is why it is highly discouraged to go down this route. It can be associated to sociopathic traits like manipulation in order to get what they want. Therefore, it's natural to dislike those individuals although some misinterpret it and will label people as nice guys TM although they aren't. It's normal to wonder why noone will reciprocate your niceness but it's supposed to be follow…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:29 PM
3

I would be friends with her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:12 PM
1

I mean yeah. Women are highly desired and get hit on several times a week (days if we're talking about the most attractive ones). And here I'm excluding the beta orbiter "friends" who are obviously heads over heels for them. They are oversaturated with male attention which numbs down the interactions they're having with men. An extremely attractive woman, think 9/10 might even be indifferent to the attention of a top 20% man, but I don't think this will be the case for normie girls though. When …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:57 PM
2

Your friend is a betabux that's been settled for by his wife. That's why he doesn't get respected by her. Nothing new. I don't really disagree with your title, but the main emphasis is if we reversed your thought process. The 20% of guys that are having "what they want" is just the consequence of the fact that 80% of women truly desire those 20% of guys to begin with. Anything below could be considered as settling on women's behalf through compromises. Now obviously, if you're in the top 30%, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 08:07 PM
1

I don't know man, I would love my financial situation to have no impact on a woman's interest in me, that would filter out most of the golddiggers and a potential betabux situation. Obviously, I have personal goals and want to be successful, I'm not using it as an excuse to slack off, but at least, if an unattractive woman finds a partner, she can be sure he's in it for her and genuinely desires her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 11:41 AM
2

It's a fact that let's say a 7/10 woman has more options in the sense that she's more desirable than a 7/10 man, and rightfully so. It's just part of evolution and biology. They are the gatekeepers to sex because they are more at risk when engaging in it e.g. risks of pregnancy, potential danger because of lesser physical strength than their male counterparts etc. therefore they are naturally hypergamous to even out the inconveniences cited before in order to find the man of the highest value. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:03 PM
5

I would assume I'm less desirable to her than the dudes she performed those acts with. Consequently, the fact that I'm not desirable let alone not her best catch will question my commitment towards her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:45 AM
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Calling male kids "sexist pieces of garbage" is really gonna decrease the misogyny they're eagerly fighting in the future 🤷‍♂️
/r/MensRights21/03/21 07:47 PM
1

http://imgur.com/gallery/FsnmuNa
/r/MensRights21/03/21 11:41 AM
1

People who say what i wrote above generally minimize the fact that because it's perpetrated by other men, it's somehow less valid than it would be if it was a woman. A man got assaulted by a another one? First reaction: "Yes but it's by another man" It's the same thoughtprocess as "not all men" people spit out when a woman gets sexually harassed for instance. No sympathy at all for the victim. Sure i'm pissed that men are the majority in acts like these. Those people in most cases have a rough p…
/r/MensRights19/03/21 03:40 PM
11

YeAh BuT iT'S mOstLy bY oTheR mEn lolZ
/r/MensRights18/03/21 01:12 PM
1

She wouldn't have minded attention from a woman as 14 year old boy, except she never was a 14 year old boy, spot the plothole here 🤦‍♂️
/r/MensRights11/07/20 08:16 PM
12

feminists don't give a crap about men's problems (except if it affects them aswell), why would they? It's in their name.
/r/MensRights28/05/20 06:31 PM
2

At least, people in the comments are going nuts, there's still some decency left. Now, let's hope that, according to the comments, this shit brand will be boycotted edit: typo
/r/MensRights28/05/20 06:26 PM
1

''don't punish the man for his grandfather's mistake''
/r/MensRights28/01/20 11:22 AM
1

i know it's easier said than done, but i'd really like to see the majority of men nope the fuck out of the country and just see what happens
/r/MensRights28/01/20 11:18 AM
7

''now's your turn'' would have been the best answer ^^
/r/MensRights13/01/20 03:21 PM
3

they are pretty cringy, hope you still enjoyed the party with your gf fam
/r/MGTOW01/11/19 01:11 PM
2

you're*
/r/MGTOW01/11/19 12:50 PM
1

I never said i was mad that women fuck hot guys they meet, it's none of my business, it's their life, not mine. The problem is, if i'd ever consider marriage, it would indulge a huge consequence, and that's what bothers me more. I don't think i'd ever want to marry a woman who wouldn't love me for what i am but only for what i can provide Women fuck hot guys and suddenly after time passes, they marry someone who isn't even half as handsome. Pretty much, it's like i drive a Lamborghini, jump over…
/r/askTRP14/09/19 03:05 AM
1

but what is acceptance? Ending up marrying a woman who only acknowledges your role as a provider and doesn't love you for your own person or going full monk mode in the mountains of Tibet ^^
/r/askTRP14/09/19 02:16 AM
22

i'm still glad to say that she's one of the most hated individual in France nonetheless
/r/MensRights04/09/19 09:32 AM
53

It's messed up how she is the secretary of state, she doesn't make any sense.''Equality between men and women'' my ass. She hasn't talked about problems regarding men a single time, it's all about women. Don't talk about equality, she just wants to promote women. Never heard her say anything about how we could fight against false rape accusations, never heard anything about how 90 percents of dustmen are men (funnily anough, i don't hear her spout about how unfair the lack of women in this field…
/r/MensRights04/09/19 09:26 AM
1

fucking hell!
/r/MensRights26/07/19 11:21 AM
0

when i see women like you, i still have hope. The problem is that you can't really make any difference at first sight. I don't really interact with girls to begin with. I used to be very uncomfortable around girls, now i don't really care that much anymore tbh. ​ Since, the whole metoo crap, and the fact that just because i'm a dude, i'm a ''potential rapist'', i treat women just like men, i talk to them like men, i don't put this ''trying to appear good'' facade around a girl anymore, i'm not l…
/r/MensRights26/07/19 11:06 AM
1

If that's the only way to solve this type of problems, then way to go. Nothing beats a legit recorded proof Was your ex gf falsely accusing you of something? (sorry if it sounds intrusive, you don't have to answer, just being curious^^)
/r/MensRights26/07/19 10:43 AM
2

and then she will call out on them and all the society because of how ''sexist'' they are
/r/MensRights26/07/19 08:21 AM
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that's not the point. We're talking about biases towards male victims and the only thing you have to come up with is ''it also happens to women'' ​ yeah you definitely care
/r/MensRights26/07/19 07:37 AM
2

what bothers me the most with this type of answer is that they never go into the content of what you write, they just spout the same nonsense that made them indoctrinated themselves.
/r/MensRights22/07/19 06:26 PM
1

that's messed up, i hope you're getting out of this safely and possibly find a proof aswell so justice will win
/r/MensRights22/07/19 12:24 PM
5

Wouldn't it only be "equal'' for men to stand up for equality too and organize a march against feminism? 🤔
/r/MensRights22/07/19 11:13 AM
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