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Men’s clothes usually cover up most of the body, revealing much less than women’s clothes. If your theory is correct, why doesn’t it make men’s bodies more sexually appealing than women’s bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:08 PM
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The funny thing is that misandrists who argue with people here will also get banned for the same reason.
/r/MensRights26/11/24 01:34 PM
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Why is this a men’s rights issue? Men can also benefit from pretty privilege.
/r/MensRights25/11/24 05:22 AM

The council of men and women just agreed to create the patriarchy? In a way they did. People in the past compared the biology and physical characteristics of men and women, and from there they decided that men should be combative and violent while women should be friendly and nurturing. Back then it was more acceptable to pigeonhole people into roles, but now people want more freedom to choose which role fits them best.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:38 AM
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Just a thought: If men always want sex, wouldn’t this in a way make men more vulnerable to exploitation by female predators?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:53 AM
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I don’t support the previous comment which says women are worse humans overall, but let me address something. The patriarchy teaches men to be violent and aggressive, and suppresses men’s sources of emotional support and outlets to vent their frustration outside of anger and violence. Male violence is caused by the patriarchy. The same patriarchy that oppresses women. Don’t use this point to one-up men and pretend that women are inherently better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:40 AM
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I could also say that because fathers contribute 50% of the genetic material, they should have equal rights over the fetus. But we all know that reality is not that simple. Let’s be consistent. Either fathers have 50% control and 50% responsibility over their biological fetuses/babies, or they lose all rights and all responsibilities after they deposit their sperm. And the latter is more favourable as it does not involve violating the pregnant woman’s bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:57 PM

Thanks for your explanation. I wasn’t trying to claim that role-reversed heterosexuals have it anywhere near as bad or worse than queer people. Admittedly I should have phrased it better. I do get insults and threats and have homophobic slurs used against me for my role reversal. I am accused of having weird kinks or fetishes all the time. Just to be absolutely clear, I’m not trying to say that these are equivalents of what (some groups of) queer people experience. I’m just saying what I experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:53 PM

Queer people face stigma and discrimination in society, both systemic and social, and everyone knows that. But not many people know that hetero role reversal people also face (in different ways) systemic and social discrimination as well. My hope is that more people will be aware of this and recognise that we are discriminated against.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:37 PM
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What if he asked you out not because he’s enthusiastic but because you won’t ask him out and he has no other choice? There’s many possibilities. Humans are complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:44 AM
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Men as a collective group may want dates more than women as a group, but how do you know that the man you are dating (an individual person) wants dates more than you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:38 AM
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I never liked the idea of ‘initiator pays’. Let’s say you had to spend a lot of effort to muster up the courage to ask someone out. And now because you initiated, you have to pay as well? Doesn’t feel very nice to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:36 AM
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Yes, I agree that women should have full reproductive rights because the fetus/baby grows in her body. Men should not be allowed to control a woman’s bodily autonomy. But my question is, why should men have reproductive responsibilities if they don’t have reproductive rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:51 AM
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I agree that many of the arguments are incoherent; I think it should simply come down to this. If a woman chooses to keep her baby while she is fully aware that the baby’s father does not want the baby, she should be prepared to raise the child alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:48 AM
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The only way I’ll be okay with this is if they equally portray women sacrificing themselves to save men.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 12:48 PM
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Women are taught to handle domestic labour for the family. They are not supposed to be getting anything “for free”. Domestic labour is work. But of course, there exist women who don’t want to do domestic labour but still expect to be provided for. That’s what you are thinking of. This is what happens when we have a strong feminist movement which has encouraged women to break free of their gender roles, but society still generally lacks awareness about men’s gender roles. Either that, or these wo…
/r/MensRights07/11/24 10:41 AM
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Not a single man is unaffected by misandry either.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 03:43 AM
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Women aren’t taught that they can find joy in being providers for their family, unlike how men are taught from a young age. Perhaps we can change this?
/r/MensRights06/11/24 11:48 PM
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Please stop giving in to the sexist women. You should go ahead and express your emotions around women, and if they shame you for it, you should shame them for shaming you. Everyone has emotions and we all feel down at times. You deserve supportive women and men in your lives!
/r/MensRights06/11/24 12:12 PM
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Keep it to yourself, gentlemen. When faced with sexism, your response is to… give in to the sexist women? Please, that will not solve anything. We have to stand up to them.
/r/MensRights06/11/24 12:08 PM

A basic tenet of feminism is that patriarchy harms men too. While I agree that feminism (or at least, most feminists) are not trying to silence men’s rights, your sentence alone shows how feminism treats men’s rights as an afterthought. The word “too” implies that men are affected by the patriarchy as some form of collateral damage and not as primary victims, and women are the primary victims. In reality, there are some situations where the patriarchy can hurt men more than it hurts women, and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:12 PM

when men who were sympathetic to feminism tried to apply the same tools of gender analysis to men’s issue, most feminists opposed to them. Why do you say so? I actually feel that gender inequalities against men are advocated for in a different way from gender inequalities against women. And if MRAs advocated using the same methods that feminists did, they would be getting much more support than they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:46 PM
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Then you are simply lazy. In a childfree household with no dependents to take care of (parents, siblings etc), a househusband or housewife is not needed. They will be free most of the time and the working partner will do most of the work. However, one partner can work part-time, flexible hours or be self-employed while handling most of the household needs, which would be a fairer division of labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:15 AM
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If the woman chooses to keep the baby while fully aware that the dad does not want the baby, she should be prepared to bear the full cost of raising the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 05:36 PM
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I talk about masculine providers because there are some women who do think this way. Not because I hold that belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:59 PM
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Not every relationship has to be symmetrical. Both partners should contribute comparably, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:35 PM
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That’s a very good point that I didn’t realise myself. Thanks for pointing it out. I could have phrased my post better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:33 PM
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It’s quite unfortunate that men can’t take over the childbirth. I would gladly do it if it was possible. Fathers can have a flexible job to be around the kids while the mother works full-time. Maybe the father is passionate about his kids? And what do you mean by “how I think it could be different”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:29 PM
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They’re not “making money so they don’t have to commit to a relationship”, and it’s not selfish. It’s preparing for the worst-case scenario, and that is a good practice to have. However, let’s say we have a scenario. We have a married couple with young kids. The woman leaves her husband because she has begun to out-earn him and no longer feels he is a masculine provider. And the husband is pulling his weight in other non-financial ways such as domestically; the wife is only leaving because of su…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:23 PM
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I replied to you in another comment but I’ll say this briefly again. Yes, statistically most men do not pull their weight in taking on the domestic labour. But please don’t push your assumptions on random men just like this. Are we going to continue being unfair to the passionate men who do want to pull their weight, further discouraging them? Where do you want them to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:13 PM
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That’s exactly my point. The people around you are mostly conservative but you surround yourself with feminists. This gives you a world view that is not representative of the general population in your area.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:08 PM
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You are being unnecessarily accusatory here. I am already fully aware of the statistics you mentioned. I am aware that some lazy men abuse the SAHD dynamic to have fun at the expense of their wives. Why are you accusing me of being like those men? I know it well myself that I passionately want to be a good, dedicated SAHP and won’t be anything like those lazy bums. Allow me to tell a little story. My own mother was a lazy SAHP who remained at home well after I went to high school and college. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:02 PM
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Most people are not feminists. Even if feminism does teach women to be happy as providers as you claim, it still has a limited effect on society and women as a whole. I suspect that by surrounding yourself with feminists, you are in an echo chamber and this gives you the illusion that feminism is making a greater impact to society at large than it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:49 PM
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While feminism has done a lot to empower women, I’m not sure if feminism has specifically taught women that they can feel empowered by being providers for their family too. I haven’t really seen this happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:40 PM
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While there aren’t many full-time SAHPs anymore these days, a large number of marriages do not have both partners earning comparable salaries. This means one partner is still more of a provider than the other. It is implied that the other partner carries on more of the unpaid labour. Hence I think the point of my post is still relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:37 PM
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I agree that people who plan to be SAHPs should be capable of providing for themselves before marriage and kids. They’ll need some money to prepare for kids, have some savings for themselves, and maybe contribute to the family’s savings too. However that wasn’t the point of my post. For some people, the feeling of being provided for is what gives them satisfaction and security. It’s not that they can’t survive on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:32 PM

Out of curiosity, what will you say about a 5’7 man who wants a 5’7 or taller woman? Are the man’s standards also too high?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 02:47 PM
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To be fair, pure numbers don’t mean anything. Blacks in apartheid South Africa are an obvious example. Please put in more thought into your comments if you want men’s rights to be taken seriously.
/r/MensRights29/09/24 02:17 PM
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One issue which isn’t talked about enough is how in many countries, a woman cannot legally rape a man. If a man is blackout drunk or unconscious and is made to penetrate a woman, why should that not be considered rape? Edit: typo
/r/MensRights29/09/24 01:23 PM
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In defence of feminists, they’re not wrong about the misogyny part. Misogyny is in fact a valid root cause of most forms of sexism. The issue is that so is misandry. Misogyny and misandry are very intertwined with each other and many forms of sexism can be explained by both misogyny and misandry, except that feminists don’t talk about the misandry flip side. An example is the historical gender role that women are made to stay home and perform domestic labour. It is misogyny as domestic labour wa…
/r/MensRights29/09/24 01:17 PM
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Genuine question: how is the treatment of men who are physically attractive and mentally ill? Also, how about men who are ‘cute’ in a feminine way, skinny and don’t look threatening, and also mentally ill?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:47 PM
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Traditional gender roles are good for some people, but not suitable for me at all. Pretty much everything about me goes against them. People are all individuals. No one should be pigeonholed into roles based on factors they cannot control, such as gender.
/r/MensRights27/09/24 11:08 AM
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I am certainly not controlled by sex. I think I am bordering on asexual but I’m not 100% sure about this. But I am still controlled by other men’s desire for sex. Other men are willing to do things for women that those women do not reciprocate. I am not willing to do the same, hence I’m essentially priced out of the market. Despite not wanting sex, I still want the comfort and romance of a loving partner. I hope you can see how other men’s desire for sex has made it harder for me to find a girlf…
/r/MensRights27/09/24 09:45 AM
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The usual narrative of the patriarchy says otherwise. I made this post to address that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:55 AM
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For as long as this sub has been active, men have dogpiled women who make any complaint about a bad experience or a failed relationship. “Choose better”. “Women select bad men”. Personally I have never ever said that or thought that way. Please do not direct your hatred at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 07:17 AM
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Men don’t give a fuck about the health and happiness of the child, they are concerned about their pride. I don’t know about others but I’ll speak for myself. I am passionate about having children and raising them well, and I am prepared to give them my all. Part of me worries that a woman will make use of me and my passion for kids to make me raise another man’s child. Of course I will find a partner who I can trust, but there’s still that 0.01% possibility. Some people are psychopaths capable o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:47 PM
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I would like to say something about working with feminists. We should be working alongside feminists, not fighting for men’s rights under the banner of feminism. I see some feminists who want to absorb the men’s rights movement, saying that “patriarchy hurts everyone, we should all be feminists and take down the patriarchy together”. I find this quite unacceptable. Think about it this way: If you knew nothing about feminism and had to guess what the objective of the movement is, solely based on …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:38 AM
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Is that what you think I’m saying? I don’t know, maybe I wasn’t clear enough. I do think that a patriarchy exists, but that it hurts everyone, and some men are hurt more by it than some women. The average man is not part of the patriarchy and is not responsible for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:01 AM
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Patriarchy is not “the wealthiest group is majority male”, it’s a system with gendered rules that grant privileges to men. I’m not sure about this, it seems the term is not well-defined and many people have conflicting interpretations of it. Wealthy men do not have major legal or implied privilege that wealthy women don’t - at most you can argue there’s some degree of sexism among some men that might impede womens accumulation of wealth. I think the point is that it is easier for a man to work t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:59 AM
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There are some men out there who have given up on male fashion only because of the lack of variety. I’d think that if more options became available for them, they may take greater interest in dressing up fashionably. It’s not always laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:51 AM
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You have the choice of wearing shirt and pants every day. I understand it will not eliminate harassment, but at least you won’t be victim-blamed if it happens to you. On the other hand, men don’t have the choice of wearing sexually provocative clothing, even if they’re willing to deal with the additional harassment that comes with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:48 AM
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That being said, I know my individual life would have been better if I’d been born male. This is something that too many people fail to consider. Everyone has personal preferences. Both genders have their privileges, but from the perspective of an individual person, the opposite gender’s privileges may be more relevant to them than their own gender’s privileges. Generally, men are taken more seriously at the workplace and have an easier time rising the ranks to managerial positions. This is a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:57 PM
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I’m not very attractive either, have never been in a relationship, and I would still rather “rock the boat” in your words. I’m better off being single than with a partner I cannot love and trust. But that’s me. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:55 PM
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I don’t want to be with a partner who never uses my vulnerability against me only because I don’t give them the chance to. I want to be with a partner who I can trust to hear my vulnerabilities and won’t try to use them against me. You can see it in another way. Let’s say there’s a gun pointed at my head and my partner can pull the trigger. I can choose to load the gun with a bullet. With my ideal partner, I trust that if I load the gun, they will not shoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:10 AM
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How do you like someone who you can’t be emotionally close to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:57 AM
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It’s 100% worth it to me. If that’s what your partner does to you, maybe you should learn to also use HER vulnerabilities back at her. And everyone has weaknesses. A partner who cannot accept that is ridiculous and I will dump them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:50 AM
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Yes, and that’s better than staying unhappy in your relationship. It’s okay to break up, you don’t need an unsupportive partner. I wouldn’t want to have sex with a partner I am unhappy with, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:49 AM
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Exactly. That’s the point of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:44 AM
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Not all women will be accepting of me showing my emotions, but that should not stop me from doing it. The problem is that you guys are not happy about those women’s behaviour, but aren’t willing to die on this hill and reject them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:43 AM
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I agree. But I also think many of the comments on the video are missing the point. We should be normalising men staying single alongside women. Some of us are independent and reject outdated gender roles too, just like the women of the 4B movement.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 02:47 PM
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Okay then, I won’t call him a lazy freeloader. But there still isn’t anything feminine about him. It’s not meaningful to compare him to a career woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:05 AM
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There is nothing feminine about a man who is lazy and spends all his free time on video games. He is just a lazy freeloader and there is nothing wrong with calling him pathetic. A man who is dedicated to doing the household chores and taking care of his kids, though. That’s a better comparison to the career woman you described. Some women will still look down on such a man, which is misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 01:05 AM
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This is a nonsensical comment and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:51 PM
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For points 1 and 2, why can’t the man provide more unpaid household/care labour to bridge the gap? Why must it be financial? For point 3, men as a whole may want sex more than women but an individual man may want sex less than his girlfriend. This all comes back to my original point that we need to look at individuals to determine the best relationship dynamic, not fix gender roles based on generalisations of the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:00 PM
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Thanks! It’s great that you have a relationship dynamic that both of you are happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:57 PM
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Queer people have the choice of playing the role that is opposite of their assigned gender’s traditional gender role, while cishet people typically do not. This is one of the few ways in which queer people are privileged over cishet people currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:30 PM
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Queer people have the choice of playing the role that is opposite of their assigned gender’s traditional gender role, while cishet people typically do not. This is one of the few queer privileges that exist currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:30 PM
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I will trust my partner, but on the 0.01% chance that she cheats and makes me raise another man’s child, the consequences are too massive for me to accept. Especially since I want to be the main parent, spending the most time raising my kids, I cannot accept that tiny possibility that I am spending most of my time with and dedicating my whole life to a child that isn’t mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:27 PM
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