PaleInsect Archive

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1	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. Thank you so much!!	/r/MensRights	04/05/19 01:55 PM
1	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. I calculated lifetime forced sex data (including made to penetrate) between men and women using CDC tables here if you're interested.	/r/MensRights	03/05/19 03:15 AM
1	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. Except that's not how it works. Only 23 women reported forced penetration in the last 12 months (0.4% of the total sample), which translated to 517,000 total women. If only 20 men reported forced made to penetrate in the last 12 months, that'd be around 450K, yet the CDC would count it as blank. Sorry, yes, they did population extraction based on smaller numbers. I addressed that in the other reply (this is why I wanted to keep this on one comment chain) but I'll also reply here. Female populati…	/r/MensRights	03/05/19 12:49 AM
1	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. Referencing this again to respond. https://i.imgur.com/TLYzpXL.png They only have two types of made to penetrate - forced, or alcohol drug facilitated. If there are 648,000 alcohol facilitated, then the rest must be forced. I would assume this to be the most logical case, but if you're saying that the blank stats aren't reliable enough to report on, then that's why I'm wondering if it has an alternative implication. However, yes, let's go with that the 179,000 are forced, so again an 80% women/2…	/r/MensRights	03/05/19 12:09 AM
1	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. Do you suppose that 827,000 minus 648,000 is "virtually zero"? That still doesn't specify whether that remaining amount (179,000) is "forced" rape. Does it? If it is forced rape, then that gives us actual numbers to compare forced rape instances between men and women. So, 179,000 for men VS 719,000 for the women in that 12-month period. The split is then 80% women/20% men for all forced sex in the previous 12 months.	/r/MensRights	02/05/19 11:22 PM
1	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. It just means that their margin of error was too high for them to include the stat. OR that "Cell size was equal to or less than 20", meaning I suppose that 20 or less people responded in the affirmative to the survey question. Also, if something is rarely occurring, then it increases the likelihood of a standard error occurring. So even if it's a standard error problem, it seems to reinforce the likelihood of that being due to it being too severely infrequently occurring to reliably report on.	/r/MensRights	02/05/19 11:19 PM
1	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. Estimate not reported; For all the numbers on this table, they're gathering directly from answers to their telephone survey. That's the only source. So I'm confused about how this survey would struggle to gather the numbers that they were directly given by respondents. Rather it seems to mean that among respondents, 'forced' instances were so infrequently reported (which would cause the standard error issue, or also meet the "less than 20" specification meaning that less than 20 responded in the…	/r/MensRights	02/05/19 10:55 PM
2	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. The exact same is true for women being raped - the majority reported "alcohol-drug-facilitated penetration". In the 12-month period (looking at Table 1 for women), women have 719,000 instances of "attempted or included forced penetration", and 1,026,000 instances of "alcohol/drug-facilitated penetration". So yes, you are right that the greater number of 'Rape' is occurring on the alcohol side for women as well. But notice how the men have virtually no instances of "forced" rape (under 'rape - fo…	/r/MensRights	02/05/19 09:36 PM
1	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. I referenced that table already when I posted a screenshot of it (https://i.imgur.com/TLYzpXL.png) for easier access. We are referring to the same stats (Table 2), so that's good-- Notice how the CDC has a separate category for "Made to penetrate - Forced". Notice also that they double-report the same event into multiple categories if fits both, as we can discern by comparing the category numbers VS their subcategory sums. So the CDC isn't qualifying any of the "Made to penetrate" events that oc…	/r/MensRights	02/05/19 09:16 PM
2	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. So you mean fucking dudes when they are too drunk or intoxicated to give consent doesn't classify as rape? If I'm interpreting the data correctly and it includes "wanted" sex from a person who is drunk enough that their stated consent is technically nonconsensual... ...then it is technically 'rape'(nonconsensual) regardless of the victim's sex. However, this says nothing about whether the partner they're with was also similarly drunk and thus 'nonconsenting' as well, causing them to both perpetr…	/r/MensRights	02/05/19 01:55 PM
2	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. If you are trying to show that men and women are different then using relatively rare events does not make the strongest argument. JSYK, it's not the only difference I discuss. I like gradually posting everything from here, pretty much: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_humans , https://www.pnas.org/content/112/50/15468 But to rebut your point somewhat, the 96% murder rate by men is a global statistic, so it encompasses all cultures' socialization. Also, there aren't studies on in…	/r/MensRights	02/05/19 01:14 PM
2	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. CDC definition That's good to know. But what versions of rape perpetrated by females onto males does the CDC definition not account for? CDC "made to penetrate someone else" definition Yeah, I talked about that here. Just showing you that I'd already looked over that before making this comment here; it doesn't change things from my end. the FBI crime figures show a big difference in gender ratio to the CDC figures. The FBI shows a comparable sex disparity re: CDC rape perpetrators vs FBI rape ar…	/r/MensRights	02/05/19 12:28 PM
6	Is this true? If not can someone please provide some counter stats. OP of post in question here. Thanks, I corrected the telephone survey stats. Actually, I updated it while I was at it to the more modern 2015 version. It is also misleading because rape is defined by penetration. Made to penetrate is a separate category, so a woman forcing a man to have sex is not counted as rape. Women actually can perform the 2015 definition of rape. But men do it more often to other men than women do it to men. "Beginning with the 2013 data year, the term “forcible” was remov…	/r/MensRights	02/05/19 11:23 AM