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Don't sweat breakups. If she initiates, ask yourself - do you really want to be with someone who does not want to be with you? If you are the initiator, remind yourself - everyone deserves to be with someone who is fully committed to them. Each breakup brings you closer to your ideal lover. Learn from them all. See them as progress.
/r/seduction14/10/16 09:46 AM
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Having the heart overwhelm the mind is a natural human experience. One other useful dating tip that springs to mind is wherever possible sit side by side (ideally facing a street or a scene well suited for people watching) as opposed to across from one another. This also works wonder when approaching - ex. turn your head and speak to a girl while you are both waiting for a drink at the bar. Good luck ififif. You are on the right path.
/r/seduction08/10/16 06:47 AM
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Your seduction skills are improving. Your plan was to ask her out. You completed this goal. Give yourself a pat on the back for this. It is natural to shift the goal post from asking her out to having her agree to a date. Remember just asking and having this experience is tightening your game. You are improving. Two ideas that you may find relevant. Rather than ask her for coffee, tell her you are planning to do something and invite her along. This is especially powerful if the two of you have a…
/r/seduction08/10/16 04:44 AM
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Almost everyone can relate in some way to being traumatized by an aggressive and violent person in their youth.
/r/seduction23/08/16 10:29 AM
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Step 2 needs to be revised. It is old hat to call a girl beautiful from the get go. That does not mean you can't give her a compliment, but tailor it to the individual - don't rely on a one size fits all line. You want to set yourself apart from the pack - telling a girl she is beautiful from jump will accomplish the opposite and do you no favours. If you are totally stuck when coming up with something specific for the woman in question, try something like "you have perfect eyebrows" or "There i…
/r/seduction17/08/16 09:54 AM
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The only empowered response is to laugh and move on. Never let anyone shake you with words. I strongly disagree with the people suggesting you confront her about this. This is disempowering (you are demonstrating that you care what other people think/say). If she does it to your face (as others have suggested) agree and amplify. Keep a half smile on your face and manage your vocal tone. It is completely natural to feel a little stressed when you hear these things (that is why it is good to pract…
/r/seduction16/08/16 12:30 PM
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Sadly these days I feel as though all anti Trump rhetoric is pro Clinton rhetoric. If I met a girl who was pro Clinton I would nope the fock out.
/r/seduction14/08/16 01:28 PM
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Can you explain the situation you are in with some more detail? How did you meet? How often do you text? What is the content of the exchange? The more info the better.
/r/seduction14/08/16 03:12 AM
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You must convince yourself that no girl is out of your league. They may be cute, but they are suffering from a number of insecurities themselves. No one is perfect. Not much information here but I will offer some general ideas: A simple tip is to avoid messaging and texting girls in an attempt to win them over. You win woman over in person, endlessly texting will do you no favours. Also, be bold in escalating the relationship (Kino). Ask them personal questions. Avoid starting sentences with "so…
/r/seduction13/08/16 05:50 PM
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Arrive with confidence and optimism. Leave all things that no longer serve you behind. In the first couple of weeks be extremely outgoing. Say hello to people, strike up conversations, and try to make a memorable impression. Immediately after meeting people, note down their names in your phone for easy reference later (Carla - Girl at gym with big boobs). Knowing peoples names is especially powerful early in the semester. Once you learn them, introduce people to other people. You are the nexus. …
/r/seduction08/08/16 05:12 AM
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If you are dead set on making a run at this girl, you must cool your jets on her immediately. Refrain from asking her for dates or discussions or anything for that matter. From time to time you may choose to barely blow on the embers of the relationship to keep it from extinguishing completely. Do this sparingly and avoid investing undue amounts of energy in these gestures. In the meantime begin working on improving yourself while meeting and dating other woman. Once you have a couple of new gir…
/r/seduction02/08/16 12:34 PM
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Based only on the information you provided I would move on and start fresh with a new woman. One thing to consider is to make all of your communications as meaningful as possible. In the future avoid prolonged texting exchanges. Use texting functionally (ex. "I just arrived at the train station, be there in 10"). In order to improve the meaning of the exchanges between yourself and your interest, you need to employ tone of voice at minimum, ideally coupled with body language. Endlessly bullshitt…
/r/seduction02/08/16 09:19 AM
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Showing sexual restraint as a man is a powerful tool. I wish I had that sort of insight at 18. Setting a slow pace can drive a woman wild. It shows you are strong and differentiates you from other men (or at least the stereotypes). Delaying sex for days or even weeks can generate a potent allure which will result in some exceptional and memorable makeouts and foreplay.
/r/seduction30/07/16 07:37 AM
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While your post does not provide the requisite detail, I assume you are a musician. If this is the case then you would be insane not to bring it into the fold for obvious reasons (woman eat musical/performance talent with a spoon). Like others have said, focus on the things you like, and guide the discussion so she does the same. If you don't play/create music I would be careful about going on long winded diatribes about how nuanced your opinion on music is. Your opinion is no more valuable than…
/r/seduction26/07/16 05:18 PM
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First of all you're not a moron you are a young guy who is earning his stripes. At 21 you have a lot to learn and that is completely natural. One idea is not to think in terms of "making a move". It is very difficult to make one move in order to escalate from a plutonic vibe to a sexual one. You need to build towards it from scratch with strong kino and conversation. Make dozens of moves throughout your time together. In terms of turning this around; from what you have shared it is not going to …
/r/seduction25/07/16 04:41 AM
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It is the empowered position.
/r/seduction24/07/16 04:05 PM
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"I replied her in the most polite and nice way I could figure". This is a victory. Never tip your hand.
/r/seduction24/07/16 12:27 PM
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Sounds to me like it was a successful evening. If I would change anything it is the mentality that anything less than a lay is somehow less than a success. Remind yourself that you can enjoy a slower progression. In fact, you may want to implement this yourself as an experiment. Done right, pumping the brakes with a girl can drive her crazy, and result in very memorable make outs/foreplay.
/r/seduction14/07/16 09:19 AM
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The only way to answer this question is to experiment with abstaining from masturbation. This is a personal matter that each man must figure out on his own. I will say that frequent masturbation (especially when combined with pornography) will, at best, not do you any favours.
/r/seduction13/07/16 12:51 PM
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1) I like disagreeing with woman. Especially about sexually charged topics. 2) I am not sure I follow the second critique. Her frame is that she can fuck anyone because of her looks i.e. her standards are universally accepted; which is false.. I would argue my suggestion sets up a frame which emphasizes that each individual has the autonomy to set their own standards; which is true. My concern with the knowing grin suggestion is that it may come across as acquiescence. That said it might be the …
/r/seduction11/07/16 08:54 AM
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Two sincere questions: How does she know I am lying? And how did I admit it was a lie?
/r/seduction11/07/16 05:56 AM
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If a girl said "I could fuck anyone I wanted to" to me I would look her straight in the eye and say "I would never fuck you under any circumstances". Worst case scenario you set her straight, best case she see's it as a challenge and plays ball, putting you in a very dominant position.
/r/seduction11/07/16 05:23 AM
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Never take the smile off your face in a scenario like this. As long as you are smiling, you are in control. Remember to speak slowly and keep good eye contact. While smiling: "I'm detecting a little hostility here". They may deny it, or go with it. Regardless you can then openly assess them to their face. Like Holmes pondering a piece of evidence. "You are a passionate person. I typically mix well with passionate people though, so what makes you different"? At this stage you can just use some tr…
/r/seduction30/06/16 08:20 AM
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I would ground yourself in the present. Relationships with no labels and a natural countdown can be some of the best. It takes a lot of pressure off. You never have to breakup or see things go sour. Enjoy your time with her now. As r/MunkyGoCrazy suggested meditation practice will help you improve your present awareness.
/r/seduction26/06/16 06:38 AM
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One technique is to roll with the momentum of the comment. Agree and exaggerate. Keep a slight smile on your face. Her: JavaJam your such an awkward potato. You: You know nothing about what it is to be a potato.
/r/seduction25/06/16 08:00 PM
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The good news is there are many ways to improve your skills in the bedroom. The tough thing about answering your specific question is there is little information beyond the ED, so I will address that. Have you ever experimented with abstaining from ejaculating? If you abstain for one month I am confident you will see change. This does not mean you cannot have sex. Just inform your partner that you are abstaining and control the action accordingly. With practice you can learn to divorce orgasm fr…
/r/seduction25/06/16 04:49 PM
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Think of a number of things that you are looking for in a partner. The important things. If you want write them down. Upon reviewing the list you will see that your ex fails to fulfill at least one of the criteria (likely more). Then imagine the woman who meets them all. This is why you cannot and should not be with your ex any longer. You are going to have a blast while journeying the road ahead my friend.
/r/seduction16/06/16 04:45 AM
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I once went on a couple of dates with a girl and things cooled off between us; a product of mutual indifference. She was very beautiful though, and one night I thought I saw her somewhere in the city. I texted her the following: "Are you hanging in the (area of the city) right now? If not you have a legitimate doppleganger". Her response: "What's a doppleganger"? We reconnected very shortly thereafter and dated casually for a few months. She turned out to be cooler than I initially thought.
/r/seduction13/06/16 09:32 AM
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In time you will see that this girl cheating on you was a gift, not a setback. You wanted things from that relationship that she was not prepared to offer. There is nothing wrong with this. It is neither your fault nor hers. I gather that monogamy is important to you. That is a good realization. Our relationships are like stairs in a staircase. Each one helps you progress bit by bit until you get to where you want to be. My best advice is to challenge yourself to see it this way. I understand th…
/r/seduction12/06/16 02:10 AM
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Remember that you have the ability to control whether things are awkward or not. Treat her normally. Ask her how she is doing. Regular stuff. Take the lead.
/r/seduction03/06/16 03:23 PM
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If she is letting another man massage her at 3am before sleeping in the same bed she may be two or three steps removed from an angel.
/r/seduction28/04/16 07:04 AM
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You have failed to convince me with your fallacious arguments. The line is not "solid".
/r/seduction24/12/15 04:02 PM
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If it is supposed to be obvious what is the utility of the veneer? It takes a risk (evoking a fear based response) with no real reward (communicating to her early in the interaction that you find her physically attractive). Both of these problems are compounded by the environment in which you are specifically designing the gambit for. I do not agree that what you have presented constitutes a "solid line". It is contradictory, disingenuous and has a high likelihood of being received as discourteo…
/r/seduction24/12/15 03:43 PM
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The thread is not about willingness to be rejected. It is about discussing the merits of your "solid line" specifically it's efficacy on an aircraft. The lines intent is disguised under a very thin veneer of observation which most woman (especially attractive woman) will see right through. In my experience woman respond to confidence and respect, whereas this line is indirect and manipulative. The setting in which you are suggesting utilizing the line compounds the problem. At a bar or on the st…
/r/seduction24/12/15 03:55 AM
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I predict most woman who find themselves on the other end of this line will be quickly re-checking their itinerary in order to discern just how long the flight is going to be. Leave it on the cutting room floor.
/r/seduction23/12/15 10:04 PM
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Things are not looking good for you. At least in the short term. IMO you should start perfecting your ability to attract and seduce by focusing on other potential mates. Your one chance to escape the friend zone is to court other woman and make her wonder why you are no longer giving her the attention she is used to getting from you. When she comes to realize that it is because her competition has swooped in on you, she may begin to change the frame in which she views your relationship. Make a p…
/r/seduction20/11/15 04:54 PM
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I once reconnected with a girl I dated a couple of times after a year of not speaking. I saw someone who I thought might be her and wrote something to the order of "Hey I think I just saw you at such and such a place. If it wasn't you, you have a doppleganger". Her response? "What's a doppleganger?". We dated casually for several months after that.
/r/seduction03/11/15 06:15 PM
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Sit side by side rather than across from one another. Ideally in a place which offers excellent people watching opportunities (looking onto the street or a busy part of the bar).
/r/seduction29/10/15 01:38 PM
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As others have said there is nothing bad about not having had sex in ten months. On the other hand what she said was not in any way reasonable. Remember questions are more persuasive then statements. "Do you really think I would fall in love with you unless I have sex with another woman?". Never pass up an opportunity to playfully challenge her. In this instance it would have turned the tables and (maybe) put you in the position to introduce the idea of a threesome.
/r/seduction14/10/15 10:08 PM
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One thing I came to learn was to strike when the iron is hot. We all have good days and bad days. When you are having a good day, utilize your momentum and shoot for the moon.
/r/seduction29/09/15 06:10 PM
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You have forgotten the face of your father.
/r/seduction26/09/15 03:30 PM
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The story re. the bathroom invite was not good. Once a girl turns down a kiss, don't go for it again in short order. You need to demonstrate respect in this regard. Especially not after her demonstrating the good will to invite you in to use her toilet. This reflects poorly upon you. The impromptu salsa dancing lesson and the "just one kiss" lecture are best left on the cutting room floor. Try slowing down. You are trying to kiss everything - even the ones with no connection in the midst of "god…
/r/seduction22/09/15 03:03 PM
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Some good advice here. Especially re. positioning. Sitting side by side is a better option than facing one another. Especially if you can get into a position with a view where you can people watch together. It might be worth finding out if there is something interesting happening in the general area where you are meeting. It sets up a good opportunity for a location shift (ex. "Do you like dinosaurs? There is an exhibit down the road that I was planning to check out. You want to come with me?").
/r/seduction15/09/15 01:04 PM
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I lent her my copy of the game. She really enjoyed it.
/r/seduction07/09/15 01:48 AM
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Since your asking my opinion I will share it: This is a terrible idea.
/r/seduction04/09/15 03:25 PM
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Sporting a rich tone of voice.
/r/seduction02/09/15 12:05 PM
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Sporting a rich tone of voice.
/r/seduction02/09/15 12:04 PM
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If you chatted all night it would be strange if you did not ask her out. A good way to go about the invitation is to say "I am planning on attending __ (movie, museum, etc) would you like to join me?" She will say one of two things: 1) Yes. 2) I would love to, but I am unavailable. If she replies with a variation of 2) she will either suggest doing it another time or not. If she does not, then she is not interested. From what you have shared, I would expect that this outcome is unlikely. The ups…
/r/seduction19/08/15 12:50 PM
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Well done. Doesn't it feel good to skip the "what if's"? Remember this feeling of satisfaction and always approach. If a girl seems to old or out of your league? Approach confidently every time. Keep honing your skills. In this, and everything else you have interest in. The sky is the limit for you.
/r/seduction29/07/15 04:54 PM
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People with that mentality make it difficult to have a pleasant sidewalk experience.
/r/seduction27/07/15 05:17 PM
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The best way to lift yourself up is to lift someone else up. Volunteer. Go talk to people on long term care at a nearby hospital, go walk dogs at the local animal shelter, go help out at the community food bank. I guarantee all of these things will give you the perspective you need to acknowledge what you have going for you. You are a young man. It is totally natural to feel overwhelmed. Forgive yourself first. Then go out and help some people/change the world.
/r/seduction24/07/15 02:10 PM
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The We Vibe 4 Plus will be a nice addition to your evening.
/r/seduction12/07/15 06:48 PM
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It appears you have a real thing about equating people who drink club soda at bars with sexual predators. You need to work that out as it is a fallacious line of reasoning.
/r/seduction10/07/15 02:17 PM
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Hit up a makeup counter at the mall/drug store. Speak to the woman working there and tell her what you told us. She will sort you out.
/r/seduction02/07/15 06:39 PM
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If your relationship is strong you can speak to her about it. Let her know how you are feeling. Tell her not to apologize or feel bad, just ask her to listen. In turn, listen to her response. This is how a strong relationship will manage these types of speed bumps. If you have not yet established a strong foundation I would do two things: Make some new female friends and start spending time with them as friends. Be open about it. It will allow her to better understand your position, seduce her (…
/r/seduction30/06/15 03:22 PM
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Like many have already said, begin slowly. Lean in to kiss her and do it slowly. Just as your lips are about to touch, pull back a little bit. Making her wait the extra second or two before contact will create a reaction.
/r/seduction10/06/15 12:01 AM
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You will never see her again. The only power she has over you is that which you give her.
/r/seduction09/06/15 11:57 PM
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Have you considered growing a beard? A well groomed beard can do wonders for an average face. I have tested this theory extensively.
/r/seduction08/06/15 08:38 PM
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If I were to offer one piece of constructive criticism - I would make a note to avoid tapping your target on the shoulder in order to gain their attention. You risk invoking a defensive response as she may consider it to be invasive or startling. Instead try "Pardon me" or something similar. Have fun.
/r/seduction03/06/15 02:19 PM
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Chili Beef Lettuce Wraps by Gordon Ramsay. This is easy to make, fun to eat, goes nice with wine/beer and totally delicious. It does not hurt that it looks beautiful on the plate as well. Detailed recipe [here].(http://www.redonline.co.uk/food/recipes/chilli-beef-lettuce-wraps) Downsides: it is spicy and very flavourful (may be too intense for a finicky eater); it may require a couple of staple purchases depending on your pantry. Tip for preparing - don't zest the limes much past the green outer…
/r/seduction26/05/15 05:59 PM
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The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene. The 48 Laws of Power by same. I remember enjoying The Juggler's text Conversational Ju-Jitsu as well.
/r/seduction21/05/15 07:01 PM
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I think it depends on your goals. If you plan to see her again then I think pumping the brakes during the early encounters can be fun and rewarding. It drives up anticipation, and allows you to enjoy the earlier, "smaller" sexual acts more fully. It also allows you to disarm the "player" line she took with you. Actions speak louder than words after all.
/r/seduction21/05/15 04:49 PM
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While I see where you are going with this, I am not sure I agree. There is a lot of stigma associated with "stepping outside". Having regard to that I feel as though this is a risky play. Dude man gets macho and then anything can happen; including Manslaughter.
/r/seduction11/05/15 05:25 PM
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Think my friend. Quiet your heart for a moment and think. Do you really believe that you will never find something better than being with a girl that clearly does not love you? Anything is better than that. I do believe this to be a natural and common response. That is why we see so many relationships fail after marriage and children come into play. The fear of "never finding anything as good" can obscure the truth that two people are not meant to continue together romantically. Be happy that yo…
/r/seduction07/05/15 03:59 PM
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I would speak with her about it. Let her know what you want. Give her an opportunity to share the same with you. Communication is essential to a good sex life, so use this as an opportunity to cultivate an open discourse early.
/r/seduction28/04/15 02:01 PM
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If you are asking the question odds are you already know the answer. Do it. Be bold and take action.
/r/seduction23/04/15 02:11 AM
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Congratulations. You didn't hesitate. I hope you feel good because you took action and that is the recipe for long-term success. Whatever she says reply with a smile and a "I can live with that". Keep me posted.
/r/seduction23/04/15 02:09 AM
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Man this is great news! It is always helpful to have someone on the inside. My advice is to not worry about all the peripheral stuff. You want to go with her. Ask her. You only go through life once, take what you can get and live with no regrets. I also like how you phrased the idea to the cousin "I am considering taking her" - this is a very confident mindset and one you should be applauded for.
/r/seduction22/04/15 03:10 PM
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I think you have good instincts regarding the big proposal. It is poor advice. What do you know about her? When you say "hi and bye" type of friends, do you mean that literally? Have you engaged in any longer discussions at any point? Any information you can provide will help. If you are going to make this happen in three weeks it seems you have 2 options. See if you can connect with her for a date. On the date cultivate her interest and use this to leverage the prom invite. When asking her out,…
/r/seduction22/04/15 02:35 PM
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Focus on the fact that she gave you the number. Accept that you can improve on your gambit. Acknowledge the entire episode as a learning experience and an opportunity for growth.
/r/seduction21/04/15 06:20 PM
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My advice for this scenario? Keep it short. No dinner or movies. Just grab one drink or a cup of coffee. Set it up like "are you free early evening Wednesday? I am meeting some friends at 8 but we could connect around 7 for a drink". Not having to end the date takes a lot of pressure off. You can enjoy one another's company and then part ways at a high point. Don't tell her that this is your first date. There really is no need at this stage. Be charming, and be sure to demonstrate kindness to yo…
/r/seduction21/04/15 01:58 PM
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Suggest a time and place. If it is less than ideal she will let you know and you can revise the plan.
/r/seduction17/04/15 03:58 PM
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If you call her and she does not call you back, it is time to move on.
/r/seduction17/04/15 03:46 PM
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Your tone of voice can be altered with practice/training. It can be a very effective seduction tool. When I think of someone with a rich tone of voice I think of Morgan Freeman, James Earl Jones, and my SO's father. They all have deep vocal tonality. A deep voice is powerful and pleasant to listen to - it can project authority and sexuality. Deep is not necessarily the ideal though. Like most preferences it is a subjective thing. My mechanic for example has a wonderful tone of voice, he speaks i…
/r/seduction16/04/15 05:41 PM
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Have you cultivated an open discourse with her? Why is she feeling this way?
/r/seduction16/04/15 01:18 PM
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The key is to speak slower rather than slow. It feels unnatural because we are all used to rushing our sentences for a number of reasons (fear of being cut off, fear of losing our conversation partner's interest etc). Practice will help you with this. Pay close attention when listening to charismatic people speak and notice their cadence and pacing. Find a model that you would like to emulate and adjust your style accordingly. The good news is, once you make the required adjustments you will sta…
/r/seduction15/04/15 06:55 PM
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Practice speaking at a slower pace. This will not only give you more time to arrange your sentences, but also indicates confidence. Further, give some thought to how you can enrich your tone of voice and improve your body language; then practice. Body language and tone are the integral elements of communication. You can improve your wordsmith skills, but don't forget your bread and butter.
/r/seduction15/04/15 02:16 PM
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That is very generous of you.
/r/seduction13/04/15 10:06 PM
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Playful: "The better to see you with my dear". Tease: "I bet you say that to all the boys you make meaningful eye contact with" (this often results in them reinforcing the compliment - "no really. They are amazing etc". Kind: "That is very generous. You must be in a good mood".
/r/seduction13/04/15 07:30 PM
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While on stage make eye contact and smile at people.
/r/seduction14/03/15 02:34 PM
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HAHAHAHAHA Snort snort
/r/seduction21/02/15 01:28 AM
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What is it your looking for? The ability to pick up? A long term relationship? Multiple girlfriends? If you are managing "rejection" often, that (believe it or not) is a good thing. The closer you get to the idea of "rejection" the less significant it is. It sounds like you are tenacious, which will aid you in your next phase of development.
/r/seduction13/02/15 01:56 PM
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Scout out an area in advance that will be ideal for relocation. Find something interesting about said area. "Want to see something cool?"/ "Let me show you something". Take hand / offer arm.
/r/seduction10/02/15 05:58 PM
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There is a lot of good advice on this thread. One thing that is missing is a thought on value judgements. It is natural to get caught up in making incessant value judgements. If your not careful you end up identifying with those judgements. The key is that you are not your value judgements. Practicing mindfulness meditation will hone your ability to shut down your inner judgemental voice. It also improves your concentration, reduces anxiety, and cultivates appreciation for ones true and limitles…
/r/seduction10/02/15 02:37 PM
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"I know it's a movie" says it all. Seems like you know already deep down that it is a weak play. Valentines invites unoriginality. Defy that and surprise her with something better.
/r/seduction05/02/15 04:48 PM
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