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Not entitled. It's a normal human emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:44 AM
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I didn't vote for Trump but Shor says the voters who made the difference were low-information, usually-unlikely voters. He says the message that Trump was dangerous, untrustworthy, etc., etc., didn't get out strongly enough to these voters. It was the "he's a businessman" factor. I know, I know. Edited to add: ...and a lot of them were people of color.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 05:32 AM
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OK since we're in a thread about paying attention to the REAL statistics rather than what seems to make sense on the surface... Trump did not win in 2024 because of outrage over woke, nor because likely-Democratic voters stayed home. It was pocketbook issues, pocketbook issues, and pocketbook issues. David Shor of Blue Rose Research claims to have run more up-to-date numbers than the first few postmortems and says if more people had voted, Trump would have won by more. Also, he has teased out th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 05:25 AM
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I'm so sorry. If she would do this once to you, she'd do it again if you gave her half the chance. Also, she'll do it to the next guy. I'm glad you're doing better.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/26 08:44 PM
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One time I watched a Mystery video where he was talking to the guys, and said something I thought was pretty empathetic to them and pretty helpful. He explained "Of course you're nervous to cold approach (or whatever you call it) because in ancient times (prehistoric times, whatever you call it) her father/brother/tribe could have beaten you up for even thinking about it." I don't know if Mystery was 100% "red-pill" or more "pickup-artist guru" but I thought what he said made sense, instead of g…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/25 09:26 AM
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Where I live, according to teachers, they aren't even supposed to physically touch a kid who is about to run in front of another kid swinging and get hit by the swing.
/r/ExRedPill20/12/25 02:52 AM
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I'm not a right-winger and I don't use terms like "woke mob." However, I have read teaching forums and babysitting forums.
/r/ExRedPill20/12/25 02:51 AM
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You're allowed to give time outs? I'm a Sunday-School volunteer and from what I understand, time outs are considered abuse these days.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/25 07:51 PM
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He’s just not that into you. Part of the reason may be that he wants a particular type looks-wise to show off to other men. i’m convinced half of red-pill bitterness is over competition with other men. Sad to say but don’t waste your time. Find someone fun who thinks you are just the bee’s knees.
/r/ExRedPill07/11/25 12:38 AM
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You aren't going to be able to persuade her. Just keep living your best life and demonstrating what kind of happiness lies in the kind of women's autonomy you exhibit and the kinds of relationships you enjoy. Just act like it's perfectly normal that the normie guys you date are supportive and loving. When she complains about something he said or did, just go "hmm" but when you date someone supportive, say things like "oh he took me to dinner to celebrate my promotion" etc.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/25 08:03 AM
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I know plenty of women who’ve never had a date. Never had a boyfriend. My guess is they’re off a lot of people’s radar because they’re not very attractive.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/25 02:40 PM
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I saw that movie...Gattaca
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:18 PM
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A person needs to be effectual. Effectual does not equal “nice” or “jerk.”. Is there something the person is good at (video games don’t count in large part because they don’t have an effect on the world). Is there something the person is good at that commands respect and shows promise in a way their target person would find appealing? I knew a shy guy who could hardly hold a conversation and became a tour guide at a museum centered around a common intetest. bam he met someone immediately because…
/r/ExRedPill15/04/25 04:05 PM
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They need ChatGPT to come to these conclusions?
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 03:50 PM
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You need a career so that you (and any kids) can escape from a dude like this if he changes or removes the mask after he tricks you into marrying him! Be proud of that career! And proud of yourself for getting away from this assclown.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/25 02:15 AM
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And I can say with 100 percent certainty that a woman cannot be a neurodivergent nerd and get a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/25 01:13 AM
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Older woman here. The perfume line was not creepy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:49 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN2F1zxOC8w
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/24 12:49 AM
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I teach 4-year-olds once a week and our two troublemakers are both girls
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/24 12:47 AM
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That’s horrible; I’m sorry!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/24 08:48 PM
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I'll say something nice about men for the heck of it. I wasn't even thinking about man vs. woman a week ago in church (I am a woman) and there was this part where only the men sang and it was really beautiful. Then today we had a men's chorus as guests and they sang great too. In our denomination we don't often hear men-only singing like maybe in Gregorian times or something. Once in a while there is a male solo at a different congregation (same denomination) and those are great too (much less s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 05:27 AM
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Left-leaning woman here. I would say get out more in real life and spend less time on the Internet--as much as I love Reddit! I attend a left-leaning church (United Methodist) Kinda center-left not hit-you-over-the-head progressive. And the men there are wonderful. This church (actually quite large) is crawling with great men. I never hear the kinds of rhetoric in real life that I find online, except when the occasional real firebrand shows up at our liberal discussion group. Most of our liberal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 05:19 AM
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Can't say you're wrong. Don't know what is to be done about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:12 PM
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A myth that sex causes the labia to be dragged out, so people thinking it is related to whorishness. Do men know this is a myth, though? It's so unfair. It has absolutely nothing to do with how much sex a woman has had. Do wives with "innies" turn into "outies" by the time they've been married 15 years? Do men know this is a myth? Makes me never want to go near a man lest he accuse me of stuff like that on absolutely no basis. I had enough of that in my super-strict upbringing. What is the good …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:07 AM
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I would think male normies would care about abortion rights for self-interest reasons if nothing else. 1) they get stuck with child support 2) they might get stuck raising a very, very impaired special-needs child due to birth defects that could have been detected in the womb 3) their wife could die from a high-risk pregnancy that went wrong and she went septic or an ectopic pregnancy that ruptured and leave them with a house full of other young children already born. That would have happened to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:38 AM
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Well they certainly used to. Andrew Dworkin wrote a book entitled _Right-Wing Women._
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:35 AM
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I think you're right. I just posted about how I was a nerd and prude and a wallflower and didn't meet the right guy till I was 48. I'm happy and he was definitely worth the wait, because of how he treats me or you could say how compatible we are, but if I'd had more of certain drives I probably would've gone ahead with someone less right for me earlier. I think that's what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:34 AM
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I'm childless and 66 and used to want children well into my 20's but I never participated in hookup culture. I was raised super, super-strict religious. I was a virgin until 32. Anyway I held out for the right person even if it meant waiting until I was 48 so that's what happened. I don't regret it although I am not anti-child. I was a nerd and prude and wound up single for a really long time because of it, not because I was out hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:31 AM
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Liberal woman here, or at least economically liberal/socially conservative to some extent. I agree completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:28 AM
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While you're at it, you can add pro-environmental, because pollution causes dead fetuses. Nobody ever talks about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:26 AM
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I'm a woman and I don't like raunch either, whether it's sung by women or men, but I don't dare say that in real life. I'll be accused of all kinds of bad things and if I were still working I could be cancelled. I couldn't stand that "Doncha" song about 20 years ago and I can't stand that WAP song either. I dare not show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:55 AM
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It's the same reason some people don't marry people from other countries/cultures like they "threaten" to. Not that the people from other cultures/countries should have to marry them for economic reasons...but it happens sometimes. But some people openly say that doing so would be admitting defeat in the status stakes. I think this one thing is more true for women than for men...their spouse's social status cements or limits them at that particular level. It's why my very beautiful and hot, sexy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:41 AM
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Once the baby is born into a marriage, the child is legally the husband's regardless of DNA, isn't that correct? Or does it go state by state? I'm trying to Google but my Google Fu is not that great.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:23 PM
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It's not about friendship OR sex per se. It's about status. The reason it cuts so deep to not be able to get laid (for these dudes) is the lack of status. Especially compared to others. The lack of "conquest" waves the low status in their faces all the time. Nobody talks about status in the USA and nobody knows how to deal with being thwarted status-wise. This is why some people don't wanna settle for the partner they can attain and make the best of it. (i.e., some of these dudes could go down h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:47 AM
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I am not sure in the case of the 2nd guy. At the time he was not sure if he was gay or not. He was questioning whether he was gay. I think this is why his brother was beating him up. Not sure if another guy would have helped him in that circumstance compared to a woman. Because other guys might have had the whole "eeyew, gay, ick" thing going on. This was in about 1997 so some people were OK with gay people but some people were not. He ended up marrying a woman so I guess he may have been bi (I …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:43 AM
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I have helped 2 men who were abuse victims. One was attacked by his ex with a golf club I think it was, and she was also calling his job trying to get him fired. The other one was being beaten up by his brother. They both lived in the same house. I said "That's domestic abuse" and helped him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:12 AM
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We're supposed to fast-track clone the 1 percent of best-looking women, and government-distribute them, because those are the only women who figure into this conversation. The 99 percent of less-good-looking women are invisible and off the radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:11 AM
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I know this sub doesn't believe it, but there is such a thing as a Plain Jane who gets no attention/dates/boyfriends. AKA mouseburger, wallflower...all these women get is derision. I know, I know, no one believes they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:07 AM
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I don't mind any age difference up to 20 years. When I see an age difference larger than 20 years, although the particular couple is not my business, it makes me feel bad because guys will purposely egg women on about it.. I make sure to keep a poker face around guys when I see it so no guys will zero in and egg me on about it. This is the thing that bothers me--guys wanting to get my reaction or if the guy with the more-than-20-years-younger woman seems to be showing off. I was a young woman on…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:44 PM
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Some people (a lot of them) just seem to be constantly looking for an opportunity to jump in and scold. It's very tedious and those who seem to think they are phrasing it in a passive way, aren't. I had an ex who I think lost his job for that sort of thing. At least it got mentioned in his performance review. He was butthurt that he thought he was smarter than his bosses, so when his boss pronounced a word in a way he didn't think was right, he jumped in publicly with "Are there two ways to pron…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:31 PM
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I wasn't one of those who jumped in with "Fake!" but I did wonder quite a bit privately if fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:26 PM
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I have a theory that applies to another part of the declining-birthrate picture, although it's slightly off topic for this thread. I studied population issues back about 20 years ago and one thing that population experts said worldwide was: younger women delaying marriage for the sake of their education cuts the birthrate for the simple reason that they are not getting pregnant in those first few most fertile years. Every year of education instead of marriage for young women who have just entere…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:45 AM
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I remember that post!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:34 AM
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Yeah I agree with the concept but there was a woman at my workplace (I'm a woman too) who would correct other women for saying their husbands "babysat" and it was SOOOOOOO tedious. Some of those other women hadn't grown up upper-middle-class or gotten the memo and they were probably doing good as far as their husbands "babysitting" but the "THEY'RE HIS KIDS" woman just took all the air out of their balloons with her language-policing...it's accurate but it's SOOOO tedious. Not everyone at someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 06:29 AM
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Can confirm…I’m old but was raised extremely rrligious…they hate wonen who wait to have sex as much as they hate promiscuous women. They don’t want what they say they want.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/23 03:17 PM
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I got that idea from a Jack Hitt article about Bill Clinton way way back in the Gennifer Flowers era. He knew he was "supposed" to marry a Hillary Clinton type and that's not saying he didn't love Hillary in a respect, esteem kind of way. But the kind of woman he was attracted to, in Jack Hitt's words, "trumpeted her sexuality" with red lipstick, that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:04 PM
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I would like to add a little to this idea. 1) Women with appetites are probably a good bet to be good in bed in a certain way, as opposed to a really controlled abstemious or anhedonic sort. 2) Such women probably seem like they would be easy to be with, less judgy on how their partner dresses, whether he pronounces the wine list correctly, you know what I mean. Some people don't like to be on their toes all the time and can relax around less controlled Type A sorts. 3) But the deal-breaker is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:00 PM
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I'm a nerd, I didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:12 PM
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It’s Christmas, so George Bailey
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 05:29 PM
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Huck “All right, I’ll go to Hell” Finn
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 05:24 PM
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Nick Caraway in Great Gatsby
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 05:23 PM
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Stu Redman in The Stand
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 05:22 PM
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Atticus Finch
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 05:21 PM
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This presumes that every woman dated around and had sex in her 20's. I am not sure why young women who were brought up strictly religious never seem to figure in these scenarios. I was a virgin till I was 32 because I was brought up in a very strict sect but did not marry in that sect. It's not easy to leave this kind of sect. I was shunned for 8 years by my family. Anyway there is no shortage of women in their 20's who were raised religious and may leave that religion, often around age 30, when…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:07 AM
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I have a geographical theory on this, at least in the USA. The farther east you are, the more it's socially OK to expect to meet someone and start a conversation with a friendly stranger. The farther west you are, the more it's socially frozen. I am not sure, but maybe Chicago is the farthest west people are open to meeting strangers when they are out and about. I don't know about bars for sure. I also think the south is a TAD less open to meeting strangers but I am not sure. If you wanna strike…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:51 PM
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This may not count 100 percent as cold approach, but if we meet at an activity we are both interested in such as a class or discussion group or volunteering. I have gone out with people I met for the first time doing something like that. I never did the bar scene so I can't speak to that. In my town there are, or used to be, some places that were known to be see-and-be-seen spots and not all are or were bars. The coffee shop at a bookstore. A pretty city park where everyone goes walking. And the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:43 PM
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I would gladly date fat guys if they had a fun personality. I like teddy bear cuddly type of guys even fat guys. It's the personality factor. I'd much rather date a fat guy than a very skinny guy but I've had crushes on short guys with a little swagger before too. Fat guys can totally have a fun personality. And so can short or skinny guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:41 AM
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I have an idea I heard about a long time ago. Tube clamps for everyone as they reach puberty. Only way someone gets pregnant is by going to the doctor and having the tube clamps (temporary sterilization) removed. Every child a wanted child. Probably be the end of humanity though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:17 AM
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Ten bucks says it will be a huge financial and legal burden for that one cute bartender
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:14 AM
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Who knew Canadians were having that much sex in the first place? That's what I want to know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:09 AM
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You just gave me an idea....have all babies tested "to avoid switched-at-birth mixups " Announce well in advance when it's going to start. It takes the request-to-test out of the parents' hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:08 AM
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That makes me wonder...how many of those deceptive paternity cases were cases of SA and the woman didn't report it/didn't tell? I mean the woman wasn't willingly committing adultery but was forced? Just a thought. And didn't tell her husband ... also maybe cases like in the Casablanca movie although hopefully I wouldn't ever do that....this was fiction...in order to get tickets out to safety for her and her husband, the young wife had to have sex with the man in the position of power but she nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:59 AM
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the early 90's this rich heiress of one of the most prominent philanthropists in town was going on dates when she was 9 months pregnant and about to go into labor any minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:49 AM
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Have you seen the comments that suggested this may happen in clusters...for example, 1 woman is unfaithful like 3 times and has 3 children her husband doesn't know aren't his. Instead of this happening in like 10 to 30 percent of couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:40 AM
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Speak for yourself; my hubs is a cuddly teddy bear
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:28 AM
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YIKES!!!!!!! I have read about at least one person who got a bone marrow transplant and it changed their DNA... https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-01-bone-marrow-transplant-dna.html#:\~:text=Getting%20a%20bone%20marrow%20transplant%20could%20give%20you,that%20can%20turn%20out%20equally%20healthy%20blood%20cells.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:27 AM
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"When a man loves a woman....she can do no wrong" If I got switched at birth (as some downthread were talking about) it's Percy Sledge's fault. He was an orderly at the hospital where I was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:24 AM
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I wonder what the incidence of this might be? Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:21 AM
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Supposedly, the Piketon massacre happened in part because of kind of the opposite situation. Jake Wagner reportedly begged Hanna Rhoden to say he was the father of her new baby rather than the new guy. And go with him to Alaska. But the baby was the new guy's, Charlie Gilley. Jake wanted Hanna to pass off the baby as his and reconcile with him, in other words.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:20 AM
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Good time to mention that in the Superbike Motorsports case, widow Melissa Ponder was accused to hell and back that her son wasn't her husband's. Cops insisted her son had been fathered by another of the victims who worked in the same shop. Her mother-in-law died thinking her grandson wasn't really her grandson. Cops were sure the killings had something to do with the supposed love triangle. It was a lab mixup. And the reason for the killings was a serial killer got mad that the dudes at the sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:14 AM
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My niece's husband works at a children's hospital and he had such a case. The purported father couldn't have been the father because he didn't have the gene that the child had. I don't know if he told the purported father or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:09 AM
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There's a passage in _Braiding Sweetgrass_ where the author is asked what a Potawatomi is doing in the Northeast US. It was because her ancestor was sent to one of those faraway boarding schools .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:43 AM
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they can be fine too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:51 PM
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Doesn't matter to me at all. Plenty of bald movie stars who are really hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 07:48 AM
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Honestly short guys should cultivate one or more areas of expertise (preferably non-boring) where they can stand out and be a success, and cultivate the gift of gab. There are any number of engaging Youtubers who have the gift of gab and an area of expertise and I find them attractive because of those things. Unfortunately not everyone has much of a gift of gab but it can go a looooooooong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:51 AM
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And then they'd shift her over to the "just a fling" category. I've heard them say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:37 AM
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Presence, social clout, and expertise are attractive; someone being passionate about their coin collection probably won't cut it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:41 AM
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You left out musician and angst-ridden hipster poet
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:40 AM
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I think a lot of people overlook the social status aspect. Some of "Chad's" and "Stacey's" easy confidence comes from knowing they have connections and a safety net. A large segment of white-collar workers in the USA may think of themselves as professional and middle to upper middle class, but they are actually part of the precariat. Chad and Stacey know they are the ones who will be deciding whose job gets sent overseas, and they know who will be in danger of their job getting sent overseas. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:29 AM
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Go Chiefs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:22 PM
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No, in fact, that is the most accurate test for gender. Ask two questions: 1) Is Prince sexy? --> XX 2) Are the Three Stooges funny? --> XY
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 09:17 PM
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Time once again to remind everyone that the sexiest man who ever walked the planet was 5'2" https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/qpz3tzDdpPTteTBv34fwpoJhrkQ=/800x979/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/NKTE7ZA6RJAAPNMPH4XN2IRRTA.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:38 AM
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A lot of times when I've seen this, it's someone who's been through something. You can tell the other women who are "gassing her up" just want to help her feel better/get back on her feet so to speak. Sometimes I think to myself that the selfies they post look like they are fishing for compliments, and they get them, and I feel a little judgy for the "fishing" part, but I haven't been in their shoes and been through the things they have been through. I've been through other stuff but not the sor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:46 AM
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Awww there are some gorgeous men around. I think one of the most attractive men I have ever seen is Spencer Wells who used to be on the National Geographic channel sometimes. I think he got cancelled over some conflict in the last couple of years. His more recent pics aren't as attractive to me as when he was younger but he can invade my steppe anytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:08 AM
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Woman here. There are two stormchasers I follow. One is very good-looking and has these dimples for days. Tall, fit, chiseled, and kind of has an "Alpha" reputation although I've never known him to be mean or anything. He gives off that "Alpha" vibe as well. Nothing wrong with that and he had his own TV show at one point I think. The other is a complete schlub! Unkempt with a terrible diet, as viewers can see when he stops and does food reviews at all the greasiest spoons. And he's got such a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:02 AM
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True, but there are some bombshell women that also are well-liked by other women in equal measure. To me, Taylor Swift would be an example. And (back in my day) Jamie Lee Curtis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:56 AM
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Haha in the go-go days of the dot-com boom there was a line in some article on FuckedCompany or some publication like that.... talking about the women in Biz Dev and that sort of job... "NICE PURSE you're VP of sales!" Some evo psychologist or other said something about expensive accessories being a woman-to-woman signal of "Don't try to move in on my territory." Or some such. Not that guys don't judge other guys on equally superficial things! On the other hand I knew a guy who said he judged wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:48 AM
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Here's one way less-attractive women know they're less attractive. It's pretty dang simple! All they have to do is go somewhere, anywhere, with a more attractive friend or sidekick and notice the random compliments and smiles the more attractive friend gets. The unattractive woman thinks, "People really DO that?" then her eyes are quickly opened. Don't ask me how I know Edited to add: That method is definitely less painful than everyone they run across feeling like they'd better hammer the point…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:58 AM
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Yeah I know men like that...they're in their late 60's still holding out for a glamour puss...but it's their business. They aren't hurting me. I can't imagine being butthurt about their choice to remain single unless and until a glamour puss comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:56 AM
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I've said it a few times before, but the sexiest man to ever walk the planet was 5'2" https://djmag.com/sites/default/files/styles/djmag\_landscape\_\_691x372\_/public/article/image/prince-purple-rain\_wide-9e4c5c92b0580c5b17b5fbf6b156f618c3144294-s900-c85.jpg?itok=piXOoZf5
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:53 AM
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They know the people receiving the compliments don't *really* "believe" it as far as actually overestimating their SMV. They know the people receiving the compliments will take them in the spirit intended, as a kindness and not as objective measurement of sexual attractiveness in the dating marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:42 AM
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Trust me, unattractive women know that those other women complimenting them are blowing smoke up their ass. They know the other women are just trying to build up their self-esteem. Women have plenty of sources by which we gauge our true attractiveness. A big way is to watch what men's eyes do. Men don't have to say a thing. Watch what their eyes do. As you approach there's a split second when their eyes either indicate interest or glaze over. I don't mean in a leering way, but when they wanna lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:40 AM
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As a Chiefs fan, if you meant the San Francisco 49ers, I am in 1000X agreement! but somehow I think you mean something else
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:17 AM
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Me too! I can be absolutely gobsmacked by another woman's beauty but it's not a sexual attraction per se. It's just an aesthetic thing. Example: the Queen of Bhutan. I think she's the most beautiful woman who ever walked, but it's strictly an aesthetic thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 01:06 AM
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A long time ago, a man from the US East Coast pointed out that men from the East Coast could clean up in the American Midwest precisely because the women in the Midwest were so starved for men who dressed well....and it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:59 AM
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Trust me, unattractive women know they're unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:55 AM
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I'm old; I'll bite. First of all, yes, I seem to notice that meeting while people are out-and-about has fallen out of fashion. I am not sure about the east coast in the USA because it seems to me people are more hail-fellow-well-met on the east coast and maybe it's not looked on as "creepy" or "weird" to start talking to a stranger on the east coast still. I hope that's the case. The farther west you go in the USA, it seems the more standoffish, maybe with some exceptions. Anyway, as recently as…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:25 AM
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I would respectfully submit, as a woman, that one of the sexiest men who ever walked this planet was 5'2" https://www.mopop.org/media/3143/prince\_web\_landingpage\_featureimage.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=800&height=600&rnd=131945586600000000
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 12:15 AM
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What that professor says is true of many men in the USA, but it's not true of *all* men. I had the good fortune of working in a big company for 36 years where the product is heavily geared toward women and the men who work there wouldn't want to work there in the first place if they felt like that. The men when interviewed are asked how they would feel about having a woman boss, because many times they will have a woman boss at that company. I knew men who took care of their aging parents, men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:50 AM
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I agree. I'm religious and Hubs is not, but we like each other's company. We find each other fun and interesting to be around. And I find him hot! (we're old, so we're not hot in the conventional sense)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 12:42 AM
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Those women (I'm not one of them) don't mind getting "pegged" as clout-chasers. They are pretty open about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 12:21 AM
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My mother told me this advice, the dreaded Dr. Phil gave this advice, and it also worked for me without my even meaning to try it. Change up the venues where you have been going. Add some new venues. Different venues seem to attract a whole different crowd. My mother put it this way: "Guys go for the new girl. If you have known a guy for 2 years and he hasn't gone for you, he won't. Be the new girl in a venue." I grew up in a repressive sect where you are supposed to marry in that sect, and what…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:42 PM
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Some women do this by going to high-end bars for Happy Hour where professional men congregate. And some do it by moving to Florida or wherever professional athletes go for Spring Training etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:20 PM
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Hmmm would a boombox serenade be out of the question at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:03 AM
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One of the dudes was through a certain architect he liked and started being a tour guide at the architect's museum. By being a tour guide, he was there regularly and if someone wanted to strike up a conversation, they didn't have to make the total impression and approach in one encounter. He was there regularly. I think this can be very important. Become a regular somewhere so someone can talk to you or you can talk to them a little at a time. The other one was through bird-watching. Edited to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:58 PM
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Church women are perfectly capable of snarking on single women all by themselves. In a world without men, I'm convinced there would be churches of single women clucking "She never married" at the other single women. I'm perfectly willing to blame the patriarchy for their fair share, but here's how I would blame the patriarchy: it's women taking their identity from having a man on their arm rather than their own accomplishments. Women play a part in that too. I was brought up on second-wave femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:53 PM
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OH YES BOY ARE THEY. I see you haven't been around mean old church biddies. Lucky you. In every congregation there are some "old maids" who seem unassuming and shy. Sometimes they are sisters even. They just never got out there and got anything going. The old biddies go out of their way to say "She never married" dripping with gleeful pity, but the old maids will always be accused of trying to chase men even when they don't do anything but sit there looking at the floor. One of them in my hometo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:43 PM
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I see you haven't met my mother. Or my sister, or my aunt, or my cousin...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:52 AM
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Fair point. If it helps, I know some guys like you who met the right person through interests and hobbies. One of them met a way better woman than me in every way...through volunteering at a museum. She was interested in the same topic. Next thing you know they're married and jetting off on vacations and having a kid. Happened fast too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:47 AM
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Has no one in this thread ever heard of a woman with a creative job or job that's important to society where she produces something that otherwise wouldn't be produced? As said earlier, I was raised very traditionally, and wasn't trying to buck tradition, but I had a particular talent and had a *wonderful* career creating and producing items that no one else would have created or produced. Seems people in this sub think all jobs held by women are low-paying, "paper-pushing," soul-sucking, etc. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 01:10 AM
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I'll bite. I was raised very traditional in a strict sect. But I was always told that I needed a way to make a living, to "fall back on." Being a SAHM is all well and good until the man leaves and won't pay child support, or can't make a living, or you are trapped in an abusive situation. In any of those cases the woman could have a houseful of children who need to be fed and sheltered and the man either has taken off or isn't bringing in a paycheck for whatever reason or she needs to get hersel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:16 AM
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There was a guy at work whose boss kept telling him "You need to have presence." He was well-liked and a hard worker but I guess he was just in the kind of job where he needed to make presentations and sway people to his opinion a little bit and I guess his boss felt that for that, he needed to have "presence." It's hard to describe what it is or how to get it. It's a shame that some jobs require that even if the person is a good person and a good worker. Some people just don't have it or have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 05:48 AM
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Haha a while back I read an article that said when Brad Pitt was with Jennifer Anniston, he had access to the best hairdressers, stylists, etc. money could buy, and all their knowledge. When he ditched her and got with Angelina Jolie, she didn't run around in those circles or he didn't care about all those stylists as much and it showed in how much more scraggly his hair and skin got. I dunno--he still looks really good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 07:15 AM
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Not weird at all, because it isn't about love; it's about status. Most people in the USA don't realize how much of it is about status, in large part because we aren't honest with ourselves about status in the USA. Who you're accepted by, seen with, possess and parade around on your arm, has everything to do with where you're judged by others to rank status-wise. If you read some clueless lovelorn boards people are all "why aren't my affections returned?" but if you read some truly vile boards by…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:28 PM
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Not replying to u/mensahi41 specifically, but this whole exchange makes me wonder something. If there were a ready supply of religious young women, pretty, inexperienced, homemaker-minded, brought up to value marriage as their #1 priority (And there is...I grew up in such a sect) ... the sort of young women tradcon guys say they want... and if some tradcon guy happened to luck into attracting one... is he going to harangue her with jabs about religion, or do like a lot of guys did back in my day…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:56 PM
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My great-great-grandfather did this after his first wife died. His children asked how he planned to manage it, and he said he'll just find an ugly woman no one else had married. Hate to put it that way but that's how my mother told the story. And that woman is now my ancestor haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 07:10 PM
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The Manic Pixie Dream Guy is thick on the ground in real life. Most often he's a musician. Sometimes an artist or writer. He helps the buttoned-up, hardworking, has-her-shit-together woman loosen up and have fun. But it never lasts because he's broke. I know hardworking dudes who married artist type women and the woman never earns a dime with her art but whether the dude is happy with that as years go on, I don't know. I've heard some gossip to the effect of "his wife won't work" so the dude who…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:55 AM
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I look at this movie through a social-class lens (as usual). Many upper-middle young people adopt a Bohemian image and lifestyle but they are eventually going to remain upper-middle class and marry the upper middle class. I view Summer this way. Since no one talks openly and candidly about social class, it's easy to think the lines are blurred and there's more mobility than there really is. I view JGL as middle class without the knowledge that Summer is upper middle. Make no mistake, upper middl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 01:50 AM
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Or 90 percent of the people on there are doing experiments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:54 AM
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Because what they are mostly seeking is social validation. Sex is a part of that. So is having suitable arm candy to show other men that he is a contender. I always say a lot of it is about social status, but nobody in the USA talks about social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:14 AM
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Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha I've never seen any women more entitled and materialistic than those from a certain non-USA culture. Not only is the man expected to support her and the children while she doesn't work for pay, but he's expected to send money home to her parents too!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:39 AM
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Mark Driscoll (a hipster megachurch preacher who used to be big in Seattle about 14 years abo) used to advocate (alongside Phyllis Schlafly) for higher wages so that husbands could make the entire living. He advocated that women shouldn't go to college. To many people's surprise, he drew a large following among the young professional set in Seattle. His appeal for women was that he told the men to step up, be husbands and fathers, and "wear a collared shirt." (his pet phrase, along with hair pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:34 AM
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I see nothing wrong with a person who's been rejected not wanting to be around the rejector for a while, if ever. For one thing, it's hard on the rejectee's ego. For another thing, the rejectee could spend that time and energy finding someone who will be attracted to them romantically. On the other hand, some people could use the social skills practice/advice they would get hanging around with peers rather than sitting home alone/pursuing solitary hobbies/playing video games/reading Reddit too m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:48 AM
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Well, Charles Murray seems to think it's because their social and moral betters moved out of their neighborhoods and aren't next door and up the street to teach them how to delay gratification, starch their shirts, and read their Bibles https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00540PAXS/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 I hate Charles Murray, but I think UMC sorts are born into it and aren't the type to do it in the road in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:12 PM
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Google the Queen of Bhutan. She's a real-life queen and looks like Mulan. And her husband is the "Elvis King of Asia."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:52 PM
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You're right, but the people responding are comparing the US middle class to the US working class, and the real divide is between the US upper middle class and the US middle and working classes. In the USA today, the middle class is still strivers. It's upper middles that don't do it in the road and don't ever seem to wish to. They're all Presbyterians.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:50 PM
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Some people just need to stay out of bars and probably off dating apps if the looks rat race is too shallow/disheartening for them...if they aren’t emotionally resilient enough to roll with the surface-based rejections and keep on ticking. Me included, so I never was much for the bar scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 12:40 AM
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Me again, I forgot to mention a close cousin to the "outdoorsy" type is the farmers who are tied to the land. I am not sure if people on Reddit are very aware of these people other than the occasional joke about them having to date through farmer-type personal ads, but these people are tied to the land due to having inherited it and/or being in total love with the land. They also can't leave the animals for long at a time. Mainstream society makes fun but many of these people are so in love with…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 05:22 PM
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Sure! See it all the time. Again, the people who frequent this sub aren't the same people in the subcultures or hobbies/lifestyles where you see it. Reddit is huge but it still (in my opinion) attracts one particular social type or milieu or swath of social class or whatever you call it. There are others who spend little to no time on social media, and that's where you see it (in my experience). As I have said in this sub before, a huge one is bookish upper middles. They don't care much for curr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 05:10 PM
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No one here's going to believe me, but if the unattractive one is funny and fun to be with, he wins. Countless funny guys say they got funny in order to attract women because they weren't the star athlete type. It works. If the guy has the capacity to be funny it's an ace card. If he's also fun to be with, that can also win over a lot of women. I know no one here's going to believe me. I've worked with humor writers and seen it though. I've seen this advice given to a bitter guy as well: "Set it…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 05:18 AM
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All else aside, Mormons actually don’t believe in Hell
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 09:42 PM
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Ten bucks says Suzie is the one from the wealthiest family. Stephanie is solid middle class and that's why she's so stressed and uptight. She doesn't have the safety net Suzie does. One wrong move and Stephanie's kids go to Podunk Junior College instead of Prestige U. Suzie can afford to be carefree because there's a financial safety net and always has been. Her dad is a CEO.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:32 AM
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Woman here, I think 10-15 years is fine. My husband is 11 years older and I don't think that's really much. We met later in life. If I end up taking care of him through some illness that's OK; I had the good years. (However, with the couple across the street from me, the husband was older and the wife is the one who got sick and died) It just so happened my husband is the right person for me and no one else comes close to his good qualities. Now, I had a friend whose husband was 20 years older a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 12:49 AM
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I worked with a crap ton of them at a major corporation in the Midwest. I myself was a virgin until I was 32, as I was raised super religious. According to red pillers I don't exist or I'm a hideous troll so whatever. But I worked with a crap ton of pretty, middle-class to upper-middle bookish types (mostly) who had been raised sane-religious (not crazy religious like I was), completely normal as in not total firebrand types (not that anything's wrong with that) stylish but Midwestern self-effac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 01:06 AM
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Meanwhile, the Queen of Bhutan is both--completely innocent and ethereal, and completely sharp features. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/571675746440461657/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:13 AM
2

Does the Cheeto count?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 12:58 AM
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Therapy makes one spouse not mind if the other spouse gains 300 pounds? How does this work? I know that sounds mean but what has always astonished me is that people from that set don't seem to have to sweat their looks at all. Very much including the women. Their husbands don't seem to be wired to care about figures (again, I know that sounds mean and all kinds of not-accepting-of-beauty-in-all-sizes but I have never felt, as a woman, that I could "get away" with not watching my figure at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 04:27 PM
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One thing I've noticed about many of the upper middles who don't seem to sweat any of this stuff. They major in Classics or Art History and always have jobs. They can weigh 400 pounds and always have devoted spouses/stable marriages. They don't seem to care about looks at all. They're never angry. They laugh about car trouble and how much Hans charges them to fix their Saab yet again. They care about three things: work, work, and work. Well OK also books (usually fiction not muckraking social sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 03:18 PM
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Send my parents back here this instant--it's time for their medication.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 01:25 AM
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You are very wise and very lucky. You are also a unicorn. Your Dad is a unicorn too. I was raised in a subculture that taught what your Dad says, and yet, the low self-esteem is so pervasive that few have the strength and inner-directedness to do as you advise. I wasn't strong at all myself, despite all I was taught. I was "Please Like Me" to hell and back. I don't know how I would advise parents to raise their children to be worldly-wise and sidestep all the pitfalls of being used, falling for …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 01:14 AM
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Campbellite aka church of Christ. They aren't very much known outside the South, but super strict.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 10:20 PM
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Plenty of Catholics teach the same rhinga , particularly if their family hasn't been in the USA for many generations
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 09:19 PM
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Ever been to the Deep South? (Not all are Honey Boo-Boo types as portrayed in the media) How about Mormon country? How about Catholics from, say, and Italian or Latin American background ( just a couple of examples) There are 68 million Catholics in the USA. But if your lifestyle doesn't bring you across their paths you may never meet them. Many are teachers or nurses because those are the traditional careers encouraged for women in such subcultures. For some reason I don't understand, Mormons a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 07:59 PM
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I suspect the people born into the affluent, confident, safe upper-middle class hear a lot around the dinner table each evening about how they are better than other people. I worked with this swath of upper middles for decades and I swear everything out of their mouths is a way they are better than other people. They are the ones that get a lot of the work done in the corporation, though, so I can't complain too much--they provided a wage for my sorry, less-driven ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 07:51 PM
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Unfortunately, I think you're onto something. I'm a liberal, but religious, and I think the people you're describing are decadent, effete, and not worth emulating. It's not every upper-middle (I live in the Midwest and all the real movers and shakers in the big corporations seem to be staunch Presbyterians...they don't party or do it in the road) I think you're describing a certain truly status-obsessed fast crowd and I think a lot of people in the USA don't spend enough time thinking about "Do …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 07:48 PM
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Me again...I don't have a lot of time right now but I wanted to say I ran across these guys in about 2010 on Susan Walsh's "Hooking Up Smart" blog (which she no longer runs) and I ran across the neo-Calvinist religious movement in 2006. In some ways they intersect but in some ways not. Ran across a redpiller around the oughts on Salon a little before that and everyone kept trying to "fix" him. He lived in Texas. He claimed to have a bunch of hard-partying women roommates and could observe their …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 07:41 PM
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I think there's a social class mismatch in all this that is not being talked about, because in the USA we don't talk about social class. TRP guys are what George Gilder called "The Contenders" in (I believe) his book _Men and Marriage._ I can't find that reference right now, but it's discussed in Susan Faludi's _Backlash._ They're smart and educated, but they're not getting the perks they feel they should merit according to their accomplishments. This includes the caliber of women they feel they…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 02:46 AM
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A nerd, chase Chads? Nope! Wouldn't have dreamed of it or even wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:32 PM
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Ha I got married in Chicago, popup wedding only 1 day between license and ceremony. Super easy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:54 AM
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Can confirm. Was raised super-religious, was a virgin until 32. Wasn't fat either. Was a nerd though. Men want a non-nerd far more than they want a faithful meek virgin :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:52 AM
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Can confirm. Was raised in the Deep South, now live in the Midwest. There is no shortage of religious young women. They are just a different social class/status than the prom queen who goes to Duke, and I think the redpill guys are chasing status/the prom queen and want *her* to be a virgin saving herself for him, rather than chasing the true religious virginal types, who aren't considered as high-status. Many religious young women are just as beautiful as the prom queen with higher status, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 03:40 AM
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There's a chapter about that in _The Two-Income Trap._
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 02:23 AM
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Clothes are much cheaper today. Workplaces used to require expensive clothes that also had expensive upkeep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 02:22 AM
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I'm 63. I agree with the following: Wages and buying power have stagnated since 1980. College costs have gone through the roof and in many cases the student-loan industry is a ripoff, deceiving students and running a total racket. The minimum wage should be a living wage. If that means prices rise for convenience items, luxuries, etc. so be it. Housing costs are a huge part of the problem. I have read, and agree with, _The Two-Income Trap._ Edited to add: I agree with the poster who said the big…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 02:16 AM
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Chances are a redpiller will be so bitter, he won't be able to resist saying bad things about other women. If your date is a redpiller, he'll probably do something like see a woman out and about he thinks is "haughty" and hiss some accusation that may seem out of left field, such as "they'll get what they deserve." He may make asides about some "haughty" type of woman growing old with only cats for company. He may say you're not like the women he despises, but chances are he picked you because h…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/07/20 07:21 AM
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I only travel for the patting down
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 05:40 AM
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It's a sophistication thing. Travel is a marker for the upper middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 09:09 PM
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"Hatfished" HAHAHAHAHA!!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/07/20 05:34 AM
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This, including: when he finds you hot but doesn't want his friends/family to know about you, see you, meet you, or for whatever reason he doesn't want to be seen with you. Sometimes (I think lots of times) it's social status, or their perception of it.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy02/07/20 02:37 AM
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Happens every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:22 AM
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I agree...it's not all men. It's the ones who are bitter about it, and of those, there are plenty. But again, it's not absolutely all.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/03/20 04:29 AM
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