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My best friend is the love of my life. I sometimes feel pained knowing that we can never be, but to not have her in my life would be more painful. I love her. I want to spend time with her and do things for her and be there for her when she needs me because she is way too nice for her own good. The pain lessens after a while. More and more I stop thinking of her sexuality and just find it easy to enjoy her beauty in the abstract. I don't want to live life without her, so I have to
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 03:42 PM
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that 6th one is slut shaming like a mother fucker and it's just so wrong in so many ways. the rest of them are intelligent and cogent (with the exception of the fish need a bicycle one) though unintelligible in their hand-writing. good post overall except for that 6th one.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 07:16 PM
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it's not supposed to be funny, just send a message
/r/MensRights08/03/14 07:10 PM
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geeze you'd think i shot a gay couple. I'm just saying that the two movements are separate.
/r/MensRights06/03/14 05:32 AM
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not really. gay marriage doesn't really have anything to do with child custody during divorce hearings being favored towards women (just for one example). gay rights are all well and good but that's a different movement is all I'm syaing
/r/MensRights06/03/14 05:31 AM
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the would insinuate that we are associated with the gay rights group that flies the Human Rights flag edit: I'm not saying anything bad about gay's or their rights. I'm saying that we're more for gender equality while sexuality is a different issue.
/r/MensRights06/03/14 03:36 AM
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you obviously don't understand the problem here. If he is innocent then this story will destroy his reputation. this isn't about him specifically, this is about the principle and what happens any time any sort of rape accusation is brought up against anyone. there should be laws about printing names and faces before a verdict is reached because any innocent man's reputation is tarnished by a rape accusation. the public will believe what they will and more often than not they will believe the acc…
/r/MensRights21/02/14 01:26 PM
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The first thing I did was snatch it up and complain to the nearest person about it. I'm going to start working on a letter to the editor complaining about this. we need to stop this guilty until proven innocent bullshit because if he's innocent this press is going to ruin him.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 04:28 AM
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that is literally two counts of manslaughter, if not murder, and three counts of neglect for starters.
/r/MensRights31/01/14 06:58 AM
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it is your responsibility as a sane person to write a letter to the editor in response to that article.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 04:29 PM
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perpetuating outdated gender roles working off of incomplete information comparing any average citizen to soldiers spouting homophobic nonsense this guy is a joke. just a class S asshat.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 04:27 AM
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I read about how one marine uses the show to connect with his little sister back home. it was quite the heart-warming story.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 04:25 AM
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It's always the people who have never gone to war who compare people to the men and women in our armed forces. Why don't you pick up a gun you fucking keyboard warrior desk jockey. what the hell is even wrong with this guy.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 04:25 AM
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and this is reddit.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 09:43 PM
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my first exposure to 4chan was going on 4chan and laughing so hard i had to close it before I suffocated. AND WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN COMMENTING HERE! THIS IS OLDER THAN DIRT!
/r/MensRights10/09/13 03:22 PM
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yes, i noticed with the other post. shame, i was about to lay out a cogent response all up in this bitch. the "niggers belong at your boot" line did get quite the chuckle out of me btw.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:48 AM
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if you really want to know what i think about how to help the poorer communities read on. if not, just know that you guys got me. i was majorly butthurt and lost a little faith in the reddit community. I do in fact think we should dedicate resources to helping the poorer among us. all of the good schools are in richer areas of the country where families could probably afford to send their kids to a good private school. the only way to improve the life of the impoverished is through education. i …
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:42 AM
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i agree with the first though i still think zimmerman should be in jail for non racial reasons Obama was obviously the better choice next to mccain or romney and i'm glad that he won by whichever means. however, the crushing force of the racism from the south that had him barely squeaking ahead in the popular vote and pushes against his every effort while in office really points to racism being much more of a force than counter-racism. I do get your point though. I'll accept that there is some m…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:33 AM
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now i'm thinking i shouldn't respond to your comment because you are 100% a troll
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:29 AM
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your first mistake is thinking that i don't like 4chan. /r/4chan was my most lurked sub the first half of the year. whenever i need a laugh and a half i go there and almost die because these fitizens and btards are so fucking hilarious even when they're being wildly offensive (especially when they're being wildly offensive) it's all good fun. 4chan has long been a place of wimsy and mystery to me. while i was never part of the community I always liked it. your second mistake is thinking i was al…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:28 AM
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that whole, stop and frisk thing works wonders for your argument. any specific examples of counter-racism?
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:11 AM
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no, I'm just not looking to readily condemn my own race based on some statistics that don't entirely support a conclusion. the bigger a claim is the more evidence you need to prove it. for example, natural selection is some pretty outstanding evidence of evolution but without connecting it to fossil records and such, claiming that we came from monkeys is possible but not totally verifiable. a few statistics about how black people in america are more violent than white people can't prove that bla…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 05:10 AM
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http://boards.4chan.org/pol/res/19853491#p19859016 so apparently factual falcon is currently the target of a 4chan raid and they're using us to get it some press.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:59 AM
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it has been brought to my attention that you are most likely involved with a raid from /pol/. I may or may not come back to read your comment and consider a response.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:46 AM
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i just saw it, thanks
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:43 AM
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I'd like to say that i'm not the one downvoting you. I'd also like to contest your claim but i know of no evidence to back up mine. it's certainly not as prevalent but as my ex-girlfriend works at a country club that is considering their first black resident and doesn't look too kindly upon her kind being that she is jewish, I'll say that it's still far from uncommon.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:42 AM
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really? because i think there are more than a few users making unsubstantiated claims about the plight that is black people. I will say that i completely agree with your assertion about the "gangster culture" perpetuated by the media that so many young people fall prey to in poorer communities, however i believe it's more of a "poor" problem than a "black" problem. it is caused and perpetuated by poverty and the prejudice of law enforcement systems in the US.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:37 AM
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really not helping his case, putting holocaust references in his name
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:29 AM
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considering that the conclusion would condemn an entire race of people to second class status and be grounds for some serious restructuring of humanity, I think I'll stick with option 1. especially when the proof presented by that sub is so hollow and lacking. statistics by themselves can't prove much. it takes a careful and considered analysis of the statistics and the method in which they were gathered to produce any meaningful conclusion.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:26 AM
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i live in the south and can tell you that there are most definitely plenty of racists around. up until a decade or two ago there was a county in NC that had "welcome to the home of the KKK" on their signs.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:22 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/factualfalcon/comments/1lja9q/violence/ this one more or less sums it up.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:21 AM
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it will tell me whether i'm fighting a futile battle against a bigot entrenched in their ideology or a reasonable person capable of being critical of their opinion. btw, you aren't making yourself look any less racist than i think you are with that response so, as a black man, am i inferior to you or not?
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:20 AM
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about disease about africa inherently violent and a fun homophobic one you might find nice if you are interested in having a conversation then give me your thoughts. i have a comment in the third link that I'd appreciate you reading before you respond to it.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:18 AM
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tell me right now that you don't think black people are inherently inferior and/or more violent than white people and i will respond to you with a cogent argument.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:13 AM
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http://i.imgur.com/yd2wqx4.jpg this picture asserts that because black people are more often incarcerated they are INHERENTLY MORE VIOLENT. this is flat out racism. this is having a conclusion and going out to look for evidence. black people are, in america, arrested and incarcerated far and away more because of racial bias. this has been shown in study after study. besides that point it doesn't even say incarcerated more often for violent crimes, a large portion are probably in for drug charges…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 04:09 AM
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I felt i should have put "justified" in quotes. i was apparently right. looking through even more posts, it is obvious someone has an agenda. "a bunch of black people have herpes and AIDS" most of those AIDS cases are in Africa where the fight against is just now making headway. "sub-saharan Africa wasn't technologically disadvantaged because of their environment" so why were they? i feel an insinuation here. something like "black people are just stupid". maybe it's just me. and then there's the…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 03:54 AM
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that sub seems to be used as a platform to promote, not racist views because they are facts with sources, but racism "justifying" facts. "look at all of this black on white violence. black people are violent." edit: to put quotes around that last "justifying"
/r/MensRights02/09/13 03:40 AM
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"always nice to be reminded of how much i love my girlfriend" he said with a misty eyed look
/r/MensRights11/07/13 10:08 PM
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I’m sure you’ve seen the countless articles detailing why your cause is offensive and why you’re not worthy of attention. But maybe someone should explain why your group doesn’t need to exist no, i actually read one that was posted just yesterday.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 01:30 AM
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we can't reject people based on the color of their skin Unless it's white and part of that skin covers a penis! I really hope someone she works for reads this and she gets fired. She is the worst type of person. On a power trip so she decides to destroy the dreams of hundreds of people because she assumes things about them based on factors out of their control.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 12:17 PM
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i doubt she was photoshopping because she couldn't find any pictures of female construction workers. she probably did a photo shoot to parody a well-known picture.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 11:54 AM
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i can confirm this
/r/MensRights03/04/13 03:36 PM
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Ahh, a partner in the revolution! I will call on you when the time comes my brother. For now we organize.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:04 AM
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They'll ban you for just about anything. The only way to not get banned is to use shitlord an excessive amount and express a deep hatred of men.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:01 AM
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i addressed your other qualms. i've responded to other flaws you saw in a manner which i find appropriate and i think i've done well with showing that his arguments hold water. if they weren't good enough for you then we can keep going if you'd like but even if you find some flaws it isn't as if his whole argument is a house of cards nor is it perfect. it's bound to have a chink or two.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 07:00 PM
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Expanding the definition of rape does more to desensitize people to rape than any rape joke or any of the other bullshit they complain about.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 03:00 PM
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he isn't having a discussion, he is expressing an opinion on the video. she has no wish to have a discussion made obvious by her closing any channels of dissent on the video so he is not obliged to treat his critique as a discussion.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 05:01 PM
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if you're in the same age group then you would be protected but if you are way older than they are to the point where it's obvious that they have a high chance of not being competent and if they were found not to be competent you would have been obviously taking advantage of them then you shouldn't be having sex. i'm not here to draw up the system right now but i am saying that we need a better one.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:59 PM
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if you're at all uncertain that the two of you shouldn't be having sex because of an age difference then you two shouldn't be having sex. there would be reasonable exceptions like people within the same age groups but if you're 20 and they are 12 then you should probably stick with better safe than sorry.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:57 PM
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i don't think you responded to the correct person.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:55 PM
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feminists disapprove of i think it's quite obvious by now that the approval of feminists means jack-shit around here. and the video is very intelligent. you didn't even watch the whole thing regardless of what you think about it. you're completely unqualified to call this video unintelligent.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 12:47 AM
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it's creating a woman in a helpless situation where, barring something extraordinary, she has no ability to help herself. it isn't creating an object to obtain or a goal to be reached, it is a person that undeniably is in requirement of help. i don't understand your differentiation between if the situation is real or fake because either way the same thing holds true. their creation of this normal woman (a normal woman, not some frail little helpless thing, just an everyday person) in a normal si…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 12:45 AM
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you're not the one doing the cognitive assessment, the courts do it when they want to charge you to make it prohibitively risky to do something like charging a 19 year old for statutory rape against a 16 year old. do we have a way to do it currently? no. should that stop us from contriving a way? absolutely not. should we rush to make an imperfect system? hell no. but we should try. to be clear i am not talking about a pen and paper test.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 12:39 AM
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And that's Anita's point exactly. It's massively massively more common than the device of a female hero saving a male victim. that's less due to sexism and more due to the romance of it all and the tradition in story telling. women enjoy those stories because they're tales of men who would go to the ends of the earth for them and them alone. because they're tales of a love that's true. not because of their own subjugation and "objectification"
/r/MensRights19/03/13 11:27 PM
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denying their ability to help themselves and accepting that they have no ability to help themselves ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS! you don't leave kidnapping victims to their fate because you know that they have no power in the situation unless they are special ops black widow level of training. the woman in double dragon isn't objectified, she is being helped. so he was correct in that respect invalidating your argument. as for the objectification of natural disaster victims, i am not den…
/r/MensRights19/03/13 11:18 PM
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well thanks for the english lesson. i am from the us yes and knew most of that. i was unaware of the homicide's all encompassing nature though.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 10:46 PM
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thanks for the info.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 10:43 PM
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perhaps a /s would have helped. i still meant it, it's just that I don't actually shame fat people. i do understand where fat shaming is beneficial though.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 10:42 PM
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don't get me wrong, punishment needs to be dealt, i'm just saying that there is no magic time at which you gain the ability to consent. and it's not necessarily a test, just an assessment. you sit down with a psychologist and are assessed. though i understand the misunderstanding as many do not realize that assessment is just a method of assessing.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 10:41 PM
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The ability to gain consent isn't something you magically gain at 18 though. Drawing a hard line never works. There should be some kind of cognitive assessment as to whether or not they were mature enough to understand the arrangement but other than kids younger than like twelve there really isn't a line you can draw that would be totally correct. EDIT: to be clear, a cognitive assessment would not necessarily be a pen and paper test.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 08:18 PM
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Men tend to shy away from teaching professions because there is a certain thing about men and sexual harassment. Not that they're more likely to do it, just more likely to be charged with it. Scares people away. Note:these claims are totally baseless and I could be way off.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:56 AM
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What's wrong with al sharpton? I'm interested to hear this.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:47 AM
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Not a homicide if it's justified.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:44 AM
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assuming a claim was made That claim is what her entire argument is based in. It's what all feminists' anti video game arguments are based in. a loved one to be helped is still an object It's THE MOST common story telling device in the history of plots. Though I suppose you would say that all literature is just sexist then. Am I objectifying the victims of natural disasters when I send them money? Am I objectifying a person who is choking when I heinous them? No! I am offering them aid which the…
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:12 AM
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She's a hypocrite and is aspousing a feminist view as opposed to objectively looking at the facts. She is twisting the game's arm trying to make it seem misogynistic and is a horrible person and has 150k to lay back on and laze around. That last part was just me.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:06 AM
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And then they made a bunch of money and didn't care. To play devils advocate, I'm sure it didn't take her months to push the one video. Shes probably been working on the entire series and is releasing it just so much at a time.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 02:01 AM
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As thunderf00t said: they are driven by profit, not public opinion. Hopefully if there are any feminists with any pull high up there, we've got a guy that will shut her down if she tries anything too bold.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 01:57 AM
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The best part is that she now has all that money to sit around doing with as she pleases whilst making this load of manure. It's a sad day.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 01:55 AM
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It's 4chan so it's likely
/r/MensRights18/03/13 09:06 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/1afxqa/to_all_the_politically_correct_morons_in_both/
/r/MensRights18/03/13 08:30 PM
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it was a joke.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 08:21 PM
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you can argue using statistics and you can argue about the use of statistics but you can't argue about numbers. i suppose you can argue about how the sample was taken but the statistic is still relevant to the group from which it was taken. so i stand by my statement
/r/MensRights18/03/13 08:14 PM
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where have all the good men gone? THEY'RE DATING OTHER GIRLS THAT FUCKING GET IT OKAY?
/r/MensRights17/03/13 06:06 AM
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holy hell, it's our worst nightmare. the comment section on that first video is revolting. it's a bunch of female hating animals spewing all kinds of misogynistic drivel in pseudo-philosophical manners. it's disturbing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ii1-IN_MPLM
/r/MensRights17/03/13 05:58 AM
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they all just let god take the wheel so i wouldn't trust them to drive me.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 05:49 AM
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you can't argue with statistics. the shit just makes sense. honestly i'd have no issue if they discriminated based on every demographic: race, gender, creed, sexuality. just be consistent about it.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 05:48 AM
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my mother was talking about this ghost story eariler from when she had my older brother. about how the ghost seemed so caring and gentle. obviously a woman. "so men can't be caring too?" it was just... motherly. "so fathers aren't nearly as caring as mothers are?" oh whatever. she's always discounting my arguments when she knows she's wrong.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 05:45 AM
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it's asinine and i am going to campaign against it like fucking halo 3 (where i logged many days running through the campaign in case you didn't get it). it does more harm than good and even if it did less harm than good, any amount of harm is way to much collateral for my tastes.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 05:34 AM
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the episode south park did on this was phenomenal. definitely their best. it's disgusting how far we've lowered the bar.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 05:22 AM
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it's a choice that leads to negative impacts on quality of life and longevity. that is, objectively, a poor choice. not everything is subjective and anyone who says so is a fucking dipthong.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 05:20 AM
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so it's not a personal health choice when you see yourself getting grotesquely large and don't change you diet? there are people with medical issues that leave most obese that, themselves, manage to keep a reasonable weight. because you don't need to eat 2000 calories a day. because you can slow down your intake and speed up your output. it's not hard to lose weight, it's just hard to put the fucking fork down for some people i guess because they have no self control. so yeah, i will keep shamin…
/r/MensRights17/03/13 05:18 AM
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oh god, why do i do this to myself. i looked at the SRS thread. the logic is so backwards it's got it's head up it's ass and it's foot in it's mouth at the same time. As somebody who's technically obese according to the CDC, I'd like to say a big old Fuck You to all the assholes saying shit like "oh, just lose some weight, le life choices". I've been on a running regimen for the past 3 months. If it were as simple as "oh just don't eat as much" or, "oh, just work out more," LITERALLY NOBODY IN T…
/r/MensRights17/03/13 05:14 AM
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those records should always be sealed especially if it doesn't even go to trial. it's bullshit that someone has to fight this fight.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 04:40 AM
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not following my argument sorry about that, what i said was stupid and fallacious and juvenile. i was in a fowl mood because of previous unintelligible bullshit But I'm still going to have conversations about it in threads like these, because I enjoy discussing ongoing issues with others of different mindsets or perspectives. well it would seem you and i are two of a kind. i too am a lover of the debate. for a moment, let's consider if names were not released and if police reports were not publi…
/r/MensRights16/03/13 03:13 PM
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the unreasonable people being the vocal majority and pretty near everyone including myself whom i consider fairly reasonable. half of it was the media's sensationalism and blowing things out of proportion and pundits encouraging people to assume guilt which is what happens in these cases. if the media has to keep their traps shut until a jury is selected then people can go in untainted. even afterwards there isn't any reason to use names.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 02:30 PM
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well of course it's an impossibility, that doesn't mean "well we can't bring them in totally blank so just let the chips fall where they may", you have to work to insure that the jury is as fair as possible. that's why they interview jurors then recluse them.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 02:27 PM
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it's not controlling what people think, it's just avoiding predisposing the jury to believe guilt which involves keeping the accused anonymous. reasonable people The assumption that even half of people are "reasonable" is, unfortunately, ludicrous. people are much to emotion driven to be reasonable. confirmation bias has already skewed the entire nation to want to hang these boys and will not allow any room for anything to convince them otherwise. it doesn't just do it with this case, it does it…
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:47 PM
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them being tried fairly includes a jury that isn't predisposed to guilt because of the witch hunt the media sparked.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:40 PM
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the reality is that the public is a bunch of knee-jerk idiots who will take up a pitchfork at any opportunity. they don't want to be educated, they want to be a lynch mob. it's just entertainment for them. the press has a responsibility to respect the right o the accused to a fair trial. the freedom of press does not trump the freedom to a fair trial. if anything it's the other way around, but they should operate respective of each other and not get in each other's way when possible.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:38 PM
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that doesn't at all excuse the media's witch hunting tendencies. just because i can walk around schools naked doesn't mean i should nor does it mean it should be legal. this is the most fallacious argument i've seen. you may want to try to make your point again because that was unintelligible as it gets.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:35 PM
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i'm not comparing the crimes, i'm comparing the practice of law which is in all cases the same.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:33 PM
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i see suicides on the news all the time. especially when they're in high school and the classes have huge memorials. but no one is going to be tried in those cases, so the media's discretion is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:32 PM
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that's only one part of the underline. it is showing a juxtaposition between the victim's right to anonymity and the accused's right. The media needs to stop being allowed into court rooms. these trials aren't circuses for us to gawk at. bodies of deformed individuals used to be carted around the country to entertain the masses. we now look at this as disgusting. hopefully we will be able to look back on this type of showcasing and say the same thing.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:28 PM
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a lawyer would prefer to use a high profile case because it is more likely to get traction and while he will take a loss on the case he will make a name for himself by changing common law. We must stand by all those who are wronged and can't just hang some out to dry. it is easier to explain why we are defending the obviously guilty than it is to explain why we compromised on our principles.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:25 PM
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they weren't victims The accused have rights too. Not just the victims. They deserve every freedom afforded them in the consitution just as much as she deserves justice.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 06:02 AM
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You are currently talking about the principal. When we talk about one rape case we talk about all criminal cases. We set precedents and make common law. I will stand up for these boy's right to a free trial just as much as I will stand up for the westboro baptist church's right to freedom of speech.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:58 AM
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There's a thing called a constitutional right to privacy and a free trial. If the media wants to report on it fine, but they are having a seriously damaging effect on anyone who might be selected for jury duty in this trial.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:56 AM
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But the media would be doing this without the mountain of indisputable evidence as would the public. Are you okay with that?
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:53 AM
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Imagine that you are accused of rape. You are innocent but some coincidental evidence does a pretty good job of tying you to it. While it isn't enough to convince the jury it is enough to convince the public so you walk free as you should. However, you are hounded, shamed, and your life is ruined because of the performed notion that you are a rapist that got lucky. All of this could have been avoided had the media kept you anonymous. Disclaimer: these boys are guilty as hell IMO but I'll wait un…
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:52 AM
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I say all the time that I would fuck Ryan gosling,l (straight guy over here) and am totally sincere about if. But if he found me passed out and had sex with me it'd still be rape (though I wouldn't press charges because I love his movies).
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:42 AM
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I hope they rot too. But I hope they get a fair trial more than anything. You know what isn't fair? Having an entire jury predisposed to hang you because the news can't keep a tight fucking lip. Forming lynch mobs won't help anybody. We clarify that we don't support these actions but we also don't support the kind of mob mentality that this kind of "journalism" results in.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:40 AM
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The principal is more important than these scumfucks. Their punishment does not warrant the scrapping of our entire belief and legal system.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:37 AM
1

And afterward? If they come out in the real world not guilty? Let's take the .0001% that they are innocent. They will never be able to get a decent job and will be hounded and shamed for the rest of their lives. I don't like standing up for them anymore than I like standing up for radical feminists or the westboro baptist church but we all have rights.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:35 AM
2

It's not about if these kids did This specific thing. It's about the next guy who is accused of rape. Or the duke lacrosse team that is accused of rape or the roeyhlisberger who is accused of rape (no opinion on his case) or anyone else. We must stand by their rights as we stand by everyone's because they are in the same boat and they are still human (if a more disgusting form)
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:32 AM
2

It's nice that you are expressing what you believe and I am very interested in your opinion. However it is not the opinion of the state. If you run for office and campaign to get your opinion made law and succeed or back someone who does it then i will respect your opinion as much as i do the current law. Until then, everyone gets their second chance (except for the obvious exceptions) and the system works more often than not.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:30 AM
3

They were innocent until proven guilty until proven innocent. It's unfortunate but the system works more often than not. We just need to work to get the failure rate down and stop the collateral along the way.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:26 AM
0

So that same logic applies to cases where the man is obviously innocent. In that case I could skew the information reported to turn the public against him. And at that point it's over. Nothing he can do about it. Everyone hates him and his life is ruined.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:24 AM
0

He is not defending rapists. He is defending the constitution. Stop perpetuating the idea that rape should be held in any higher account of absurdity from any other crime. That's not what justice is for. Those men are innocent until proven guilty and we should stand by that notion. HOWEVER. the second they read that guilty verdict me and I will be right there beside you ready to toast their anal destruction. I'll buy. (but seriously prison rape isn't cool (except for Sandusky, fuck that asshole …
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:22 AM
2

Police reports can be public while keeping the media on a Jane/John Doe basis.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:18 AM
5

In one state it is perfectly legal to kill a native American if you have five or more if them on your property. So guess we should be cool with that. Especially if there were a big case where some guy was able to use the law to defend himself from a hoard of Indian gangsters. That would totally excuse all the guys who just round up indians and drag them onto their property so they can kill them. (this doesn't happen but the law is real enough)
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:17 AM
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It's not the specific case as with most everything. It's the principle. These guys did it and I would never defend them. I would however defend my own right to not be paraded around as a rapist without having been proven to be one.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:14 AM
2

If you are in it for the money you aren't in it for the truth. It's much like art in that sense. If you stop being in it for the sake of itself then you needn't be in it at all. It doesn't need you. It would probably be better off without you. (clarification- not saying "you" per-say.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:10 AM
2

these types of people are not journalists FTFY
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:08 AM
1

accountability That's the key word there. We don't need to be worried about the government's accountability half as much as the media's
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:07 AM
1

It is just as possible to keep track of the trial of Jane doe vs John doe as it is to keep track of Martin vs Zimmerman. It also protects everyone in the case of the accused being totally innocent and undeserving of death threats and infamy. (Zimmerman totally did it and should go away for a long time).
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:04 AM
1

The purpose of law is not to punish or to right wrongs, it is to keep societal balance. There are those that wish to gain an uperhand or just watch the world burn through methods that would destroy the system we have put in place if everyone acted in the same manner. In order to keep the societal balance we have worked so hard to achieve we must defer this behavior. If everyone goes around killing people they don't like then that would destroy the system. If everyone went around stealing whateve…
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:00 AM
1

Threads like these are why I love this sub. Intelligent discourse about the rights of all people and an attempt to help eachother grow in our understanding of a fair world. It's much better than all the memes and stories about funny little instances of idiotic radical feminists.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:51 AM
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We aren't defending rapists, we're defending the constitution and men everywhere. Because in most cases it isn't so cut and dry. Because we need order and civility when dealing with even the most disturbing of cases. It's the same reason guantanomo needs to be closed and drone strikes need to be sharply decreased.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:48 AM
3

Reading this I was like "fuck them, they did it, they should be hung out to dry". I stand by that vitriol but then I realized "oh wait, that's a double standard for all the cases in which a trial really would be necessary to determine guilt". Anger really does get in the way of cognitive processing and rational thought.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:42 AM
3

i have to wonder if he was at all involved in the writing decision to rell everyone several times over the course of the season that he has a huge dick.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 06:33 AM
1

it's more of a "this is what we're fighting against: gender roles that lead to feelings of entitlement" because you have to realize that you aren't fighting solely for men's rights, you're fighting for women's education. girls need to be brought up in a way where they don't feel like a princess who is to be swept off of their feet and bathed with lavish gifts. this kind of drivel only sharpens my resolve to control what my children consume and what lessons they are learning from media.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 06:29 AM
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that's a really big IF. NINJA EDIT: great idea nonetheless best suggestion here at the moment.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 06:22 AM
1

all i can think of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEp5yc-g3A
/r/MensRights14/03/13 04:27 AM
2

You see the problem started long before that. He's been raping her this whole time. She just didn't notice. Women never want to have sex, that's why guys have to "put the moves on them". It's always coercion you fragile little flower. Don't feed into the lies of the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 09:02 PM
1

how so?
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:50 AM
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considering northern ireland is part of the UK i stand by my statement
/r/MensRights07/03/13 12:43 PM
2

from the "999" number i would guess at the UK
/r/MensRights07/03/13 02:36 AM
2

well i hope you came out of it (come out of it?) all right.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 02:08 AM
8

the fact that she would lie like that should automatically kill her chances of custody. if not to protect the children from learning her vindictive bitchery then just to make an example.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 12:00 AM
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that is what the edit button is for.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 11:59 PM
2

the logical fallacies are enough to turn the argument to swiss cheese without knowing the reasoning behind fathers giving up on custody cases.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 11:50 PM
2

religious and moral obligations mean that the third population does exist, but in a huge minority to the other two.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 11:48 PM
2

many but not even close to all. societal pressures often push people into marriages.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 11:47 PM
2

more fun with statistics that's the beauty of the trade. you can interpret the numbers HOWEVER the fuck you want! there are loads of logical conclusions you can come to when you only pay attention to part of the data and don't reason in any confounding variables.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 11:43 PM
0

Wow, she was a gem #reaching #hashtagsarelame
/r/MensRights24/02/13 04:35 AM
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twist: that's where he got the post!
/r/MensRights05/02/13 12:48 PM
2

not excuse, merely understand. understand that they are in too deep to understand what the depth of the pain they are causing. it's a vicious cycle that too often goes unbroken and only self-perpetuates
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:49 AM
2

exactly why you should understand why other people have so much trouble with it. i'm very happy for you and your progress.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:20 AM
1

that's the thing though. they don't jump out and announce themselves. they creep up on you slowly so that by the time you would notice it you're too far into your psychosis to be able to. it's a frog boiling in a pot of water.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 01:10 AM
3

it is different. with people you know, they limit themselves because they see that you are a person and the effects it has on you. they know there may be consequences and it tugs slightly on a sense of empathy and caution. with those on the internet they are detached from the human and the consequences are spout the most hateful things. they fear no backlash and don't hold back. while one death threat means that some idiot someone made a threat to you, a campaign like this means hundreds of deat…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 12:34 AM
15

many psychological processes are beyond any human comprehension. sometimes thing just are the way they are.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 12:27 AM
9

negative reinforcement-taking away an aversive stimulus to increase the frequency of behavior positive punishment-adding an aversive stimulus to decrease the frequency of a behavior learned about operant conditioning last week in psychology. just thought i'd share.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 12:22 AM
3

this isn't 4chan. you shouldn't just throw that word around in here.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 12:53 PM
1

all i was saying (six days ago... whoops) is that making huge life decisions should always be talked about with the spouse. they should never have the final word on the matter, but they should have a say.
/r/MensRights27/12/12 05:51 AM
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The thing about his body is that it's a body his wife is heavily involved with and invested in. If he doesn't want kids that's good for him but what about her? I'm not saying that he should be forced to have a kid but if she doesn't know about it (though I'm sure he has discussed it with her) and still wants a kid then she should know that tge only way that's going to happen is without him. Or perhaps she wants a kid and could possibly change his mind. You shouldn't have to get consent from your…
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:47 PM
1

he said that if a person is so poor they have to take the bus then they shouldn't have children. he may not be a troll but he is a gigantic elitest tool.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 08:03 PM
1

well in many places, like any major city, public transportation is the absolute norm, and people who own cars are either idiots, douchebags, incredibly affluent, or travel within the state, outside of the city a lot.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 08:02 PM
2

there was no context indicating that the person would be in a situation where they would be poor just because they have a kid on a bus.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 12:52 PM
0

then why did you say taking the bus=poor?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 12:50 PM
3

poor people shouldn't reproduce. gotcha. so how should we sterilize them? physical or chemical castration?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 12:47 PM
3

she accepted therefore she knows it will cost money. if she chose the restaurant then she should at least be ready to foot her part of the bill. if she orders the most expensive damned thing on the menu she better sure as hell at least cover the tip or something. you should never be expected to pay the whole bill.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 03:52 AM
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look at mister money bags over here with his fancy cigars and crystal glasses of forty year old brandy. there are plenty of reasons to ride the bus. convenient commute, environmental consciousness, car in the shop, on vacation, etc. don't be so damned ugly to people.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 03:48 AM
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it's totally relevant, hilarious, and brings up a point about how stupid chivalry is most of the time.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 03:45 AM
1

ain't nothin wrong with that. but when you're going to protest something or make any kind of political statement it usually isn't a good idea. like when tea partiers are armed at rallies it doesn't paint a pretty picture. i'm all for self defense and stuff, but if you don't usually carry a gun and then you go somewhere expecting trouble because of a statement you are trying to make it usually leads to misconceptions that can be damaging to your own cause and whether or not you care about it, it …
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:28 AM
2

wasn't amanda todd mostly attacked by girls? i'm pretty sure most bullying of girls is also by girls (no evidence to back it up mind you but neither do they). girls talk a lot of shit at my school and the cyber bullying is heavy from them.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:19 AM
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because they will skew the context to make it look like he came looking for trouble or to disrupt the general discourse.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:07 AM
3

i suppose in the same way a parasite is living you're right. and yes i am literally calling fetuses parasites.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:21 AM
4

Abortion hasn't killed anyone other than the women who died from complications. Though it has stopped many from becoming people. Contraception is not murder.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 05:14 AM
2

Two of them need condoms. Not feminism
/r/MensRights13/11/12 05:05 AM
3

apprehension of physical injury It also says purposely on the part of the "assailant" but you can't really prove that you didn't because you're rarely taken at your word. If she felt that he was about to hurt him then she is a paranoid, man hating bitch or possibly a rape victim in which case I empathize with her but it's still stupid to try to bring this charge against someone. This is more meant for situations like if someone is swinging at you pretending they are going to hit you.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 01:55 PM
1

Not only is this horribly offensive in that she makes the assumption that every man that tries to talk to her is an sexual predator or some stupid shit, but calling it a third degree assault makes light of legitimate assault victims.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 01:44 PM
5

I mean really, are we really gonna lose our shit every time people in power bring this up? If we are then there's gonna be a lot of posts about this.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 12:59 AM
-1

I usually can't stand this but it works inthe context.
/r/MensRights09/10/12 04:32 PM
1

I'm so sorry to hear about all of this. I wish I could do something for you but as a 17 year old i have no knowledge about where to even get started with something like this. Where do you live even? What is the judges name? I only pray that I don't get into anywhere near the amount of shit you have been put in. Stay strong man, they'll get their's one way or another.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 02:03 AM
1

I know they typically don't look any different than normal women. I was just saying that he looks like a stereotypical lesbian. I didn't mean any offense to lesbians.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 04:19 PM
-1

He legitimately looks like a lesbian in this picture. That's not even a joke, just an observation.
/r/MensRights20/09/12 11:22 PM
2

"so what should I do if there's a girl that likes me but I don't like her back? Should I slap her?" Might make them think about it a little.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 08:23 PM
2

You should start a campaign against the judge or judges that screwed you over because anyone that stupid doesnt need to be sitting on the bench. We hear all these stories about fathers and husbands screwed over in court but I never personally hear anything about the judge presiding over these cases. There should be a campign against every single one of them.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 02:33 PM
1

if we show them appreciation then we won't need a Tron to fight for the users
/r/MensRights09/09/12 04:05 AM
1

physical and mental ability have nothing to do with each other. men took the role of the hunter and so became more physically fit through natural selection while women were gatherers because it's hard to hunt while pregnant. their mental capacity could have easily evolved side by side. they also have no genetic link so no, it's not magic, it's fucking science. and you have the nerve to call me a retard? the population difference in STEM fields can be racked up to societal roles projected on wome…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 08:38 PM
2

it's a reddit user isn't it?
/r/MensRights08/09/12 07:41 PM
1

petition for the end of women and men's sports? didn't i just say that their physical capabilities were different? Lol, no, men are far more likely to have the capacity to understand and work with these concepts than are women. Furthermore, the true geniuses who advance these fields? Almost exclusively male. [citation needed] don't throw bullshit around expecting me to take your word on it.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 07:41 PM
2

as far as i know comment karma allows you to comment faster and link karma allows you to post threads faster so it allows it to do it's job.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 05:17 PM
1

I said they had equal mental capabilities. they are both capable of understanding advanced calculus and quantum mechanics, their minds just work in different ways which brings diversity of thought. diversity of thought is good because it means that you will come up with more ways to arrive at a conclusion faster. there are a million different ways to theorize anything and sometimes certain methods can be thought of by people who's brains are wired certain ways. women are equal to men in almost e…
/r/MensRights08/09/12 05:16 PM
0

maybe you should learn some empathy. women have mental capabilities equal to that of men. the way they think differs though and brings diversity of thought to scientific study. women are humans too and deserve to be treated as our equals. subjugating them is about as primitive as it gets.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 04:51 PM
1

do you really think someone would do that?
/r/MensRights08/09/12 04:02 AM
1

are you insinuating that women hold back scientific progress because that's what i read.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 04:02 AM
1

i didn't mean in court, i just meant publicly. would they react as badly as they would if it was someone who looked like Louis CK
/r/MensRights08/09/12 03:59 AM
1

there's plenty of things for it. urban dictionary being the quickest for abbreviations.
/r/MensRights08/09/12 03:58 AM
1

that really spoke to me. i hear you loud and clear. i still think of jerry sandusky as a sub-human, but you have more than enough human to go around.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 03:27 AM
1

more recent history shows that places that encourage women to be more active in society achieve more scientifically. it's just basic logic. if there are more people working in the field (whether they be men or women) shit will get done faster.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:44 AM
0

theamazingatheist made some videos about it and after watching just one or two of them i felt a vehement hate of all things feminist. after watching more i was violently angry.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:30 AM
2

i'm not saying it's going to unrape them or anything but i will say that the punishment should fit the crime. attempt rehabilitation sure but if they are a repeat offender then have at 'em. i think much of the anger towards jerry sandusky was very reasonable. he stole the innocence of dozens of small children. he is obviously something far beyond the pale and i don't consider him a human. why should he be treated ethically? i'm open to debate on the topic.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:25 AM
10

but... but...
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:15 AM
15

the amount of shit i would give people. i swear, if this is still a problem when i grow up it won't be for very long.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:01 AM
14

I actually was thinking about doing that, until i read that. do you think it would go over any better for a 17 year old?
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:52 AM
56

oh good lord
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:40 AM
1

People cry during sex because of all kinds of reasons. one of them could be because they are feeling a lot of emotion. The only logical conclusion isn't pain.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:38 AM
7

advocating for equality by fighting for the rights of one side is back-asswards and quite frankly idiotic.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:25 AM
1

there's an urban dictionary for that
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:24 AM
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if i ever need to, DOING THIS!
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:21 AM
33

I wanna be in on the joke :( who's colby?
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:17 AM
1

that kind of thinking is draconian and moronic. the reason things are like this isn't because of something inherently devious about women. it's because of social norms that propagate behavior like this. Women are given this power and told that it is alright for them to use it. our goal shouldn't be to demean the women, just to balance the power and stop this back-asswards fight for fairness for women by giving them huge leg ups on men.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:07 AM
1

should these be in the sidebar? i feel like they should be in some way available because almost every time i come here i see a story about a man stripped of all his possessions and dignity by some manipulative bitch.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 12:04 AM
1

she's crying probably just emotional she's screaming it's probably a pleasure scream she said don't stop i guess i shouldn't stop why the hell should it be rape. it isn't rape. it is ignorance. you weren't sensible enough to get checked out. not saying she is stupid, just that she wasn't really thinking very hard about the situation. i fail to see why he holds any responsibility for her inaction or her feelings. he never tried to hurt he, he didn't want to hurt her. if i am wrong tell me. i just…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 01:21 AM
1

Depending on how much resentment you feel towards her I would personally at the least look into pressing charges. If not then I would confront her since it's had so much of an impact on your life. You could perhaps get an apology and some closure. I can't even imagine the feeling man. I'm so sorry it went down like it did. I wish i could say something more but I unfortunately am not quite as eloquent or wise as i wish i were.
/r/MensRights06/09/12 12:54 AM
1

took two seconds to see that someone there linked to a /r/mensadvocacy subreddit that might be better for it. thanks
/r/MensRights06/09/12 12:45 AM
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