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It's literally not his kid, tho ? He apparently did put his sperm in a neutral zone, that's why it's not his kid. No one who is having sex is 100% sure they didn't accidentally procreate unless there's something physically missing to give them that assurance... And sometimes even then (before anyone suggests a vasectomy) Why do you defend putting pressure on men in this way? For a kid that isn't theirs that they had no part in making? I know there's harm to the child, especially after a certain …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:12 AM
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I'm confused as to why you're so intent on blaming a man for a woman lying to him ? Do you blame women for being cheated on, too? You've made other statements that I agree with (like if you're that much in doubt get a test) but then you need to shame men for being tricked ?? Just why? The needless cruelty undermines your other points, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:38 AM
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I think you may be confusing something like financial abortion with paternity fraud. Because I'm sure you're not saying that when a man has sex with a woman he's signing up for the risk that she's cheating on him and that he'll raise a kid that isn't his.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:44 AM
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It's not about "going after" one "dad" or the other. She was just taking a moment to show some empathy for a kid for whom one "dad" is very likely not interchangeable for another. They're gonna be heartbroken and lose an important person in their life over something their parents (bio) did. That's sad. That's all. She feels sad for what's about to happen to the kid, that doesn't mean that a man should live a life that makes him miserable to prevent it. She even said so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:54 AM
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Edgy teenagers, I think ? 🤷🏼‍♀️ And it's possible that I give grown men on the internet the benefit of the doubt and assume they're teenagers sometimes, but I feel like it's teenagers, lol Either way it just comes off as someone trying too hard to be cool, imo. Pretty cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:35 PM
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If you have any scientific article about it and you are sure that we can trust it, please share it. I'm not the one who made a claim. I don't run around spouting nonsense like, "All people of X group prefer Y trait and if they say they don't they're lying". Because that would make me look foolish. The person who makes a claim, especially one as sweeping and absolute as yours, gets to back it up. Or admit that they can't, which luckily you already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:30 PM
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Lol I went with rape because it was an accusation that is more often levied against men which can be hard to prove one way or the other and thus would be a good subject for exactly the same biased "Men lie thus we can just pretend the stats are what we say they are" bullshit you were pulling against women. Additionally, being falsely accused of rape is (understandably) something men tend to feel strongly about so I was also using a bit of an emotional angle to try and get you to fully engage wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:05 PM
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That isn't what she said. She said introverts are less visible, which they are. Any introvert (self included) with even a tiny bit of self awareness will be able to admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:24 AM
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I mean, sometimes he just likes hanging out with me 😂 I don't go "clothes shopping" (irl) but I'm sure there's an equivalent that he does do. And really I was just trying to make a little "come with enthusiasm" joke in a post related to sex in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:28 PM
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So because you've decided that it's impossible to study it's okay to just make things up and state them as fact? That isn't how things work. I don't get to say, "Men lie about how often they rape, there's no way to force them not to lie, thus the vast majority of men rape". That would be insane. Do you hear how insane that sounds? If you can't get good data making shit up is not the next best thing. Same with your new statement above. Back it all up or it's worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:22 PM
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Dude I was just listing positive traits people can have, I don't think many traits are actually gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:17 PM
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Not “men have a right to women’s body” which is what the “should” you have a problem with sounds like. Again, OP had no argument with my take on what "should" means, and while I have definitely seen men take that whole "wives should" as some kind of ownership over her body I don't think that "should" necessarily implies that. A wife being a bad partner if she doesn't offer was more my take, which I clearly stated in the original comment that you apparently did not go back and read even though I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 11:15 PM
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but they’re getting manipulated by these guys. ...rrriiiight. The article you linked described all three dark triad traits as having something that overlapped. "Manipulative" So yes, the manipulative dark triad folks probably were out there manipulating people. Their families, their friends, their bosses and coworkers, and yes, even romantic partners. Men and women. It's kinda what they do. And yes, men can absolutely be manipulated by crazy and hot women 😂 like, what?? The hotness helps but som…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:48 PM
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I mean yeah, that's essentially it for most people, right? When you're young and naive you think that if they're cute and funny and kinda nice (and of course you're already attracted to them anyway) then you're set! You have all the pieces, surely you'll both be reasonable people and mature similarly, etc But that isn't always how it goes. Some people get lucky, but a lot don't. And they learn how much it sucks to be with someone you're not actually as compatible with as you thought. You find th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:34 PM
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I don't see where she said women are perfect or wonderful, she just said they aren't having this particular problem in her experience. Of course women are flawed, we're human. Even "good people" have flaws and act selfishly. And some women are even genuinely shitty, lots of women, even 😂 That doesn't mean that every scenario dreamed up in this subreddit is true or accurate or can be applied as a blanket generalization. Many men on this subreddit claim that women think that all women must be perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:16 PM
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Sexism is supposed to be baseless prejudice. Is it? I don't remember "baseless" being part of the definition. Do you think that women who view all men as manipulative and aggressive who then go on to exhibit "hostile sexism" towards men are not in fact sexist if they've had a sufficient number of bad encounters with men? Bad encounters can cause a person to become prejudiced against another group based on their immutable characteristics (sex, race, etc. things a person cannot change about themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:05 PM
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That's essentially what demisexual means, that the attraction/desire isn't spontaneous, that it can take time and effort. I agree that most people are like this to some extent, women especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:14 PM
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Because we're often treated as if we are. Told what we think, feel, believe, want, etc based on what some other woman has said as if it applies to us, as if we're interchangeable, or a hive mind. It's all over this subreddit if you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:28 PM
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They self identify as blue pill to differentiate themselves from the red pill in a "pill" debate subreddit. "Blue pill" and "Red pill" come from the movie The Matrix, and just like in the movie, if you take the blue pill you remain the default. Nothing changes. Only by taking the red pill does something change from the default. Anyone who hasn't taken the red pill is simply a normal ass person in the real world (to bring the analogy back to our real world. Since in the movie it was the opposite …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:50 PM
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Did they tell you explicitly or is this a conclusion you came to based on their overall model of how to be a wife? It was explicit. I don't remember the exact wording but they didn't mince words. I'm talking, "No right to say no cuz he's your husband" level shit. I only joined because I promised my Xwife. When the relationship was done I just left. It's not a big deal, it's just I have a front row seat to what most churches are teaching and the caricature that most Redditors How many churches di…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:33 PM
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Pretty sure I made it clear how "should" sounded to my ear, and OP didn't argue in his reply to me. I bet if you read my comment again you can figure out what I meant, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:30 PM
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You don't understand how one could try to promote a positive aspect of masculinity while disliking a toxic aspect at the same time? Is that the question? Do you want a woman who exhibits toxic femininity? (Catty, jealous, shallow) Or would you prefer one who can exhibit positive femininity (Loyal, reasonable, kind) and at the same time who doesn't show the toxic elements of femininity? If you prefer the positive but would skip the negative do you even like femininity? I would say that yes, you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:22 PM
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You wanna back that up in any way? If it's that universal it should be pretty easy to find a study to show it. Otherwise you're just saying shit 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:05 PM
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A child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:56 PM
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To be "Blue pill" is simply the absence of believing in "Red Pill" ideals. That's it. "Blue pill" HAS no ideal or beliefs of its own, it's just, "Everyone who doesn't take the red pill". Saying someone is "Blue pill" is meaningless when it comes to identifying what that person actually thinks about gender, sex, or relationships beyond saying that the person doesn't subscribe to red pill beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:54 PM
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Not every purity culture teaches the same things. The one I was raised in definitely was telling me from the time that I was a teenager that a woman's job was to keep her husband happy, and that "wifely duties" (said differently, but the same concept) were absolutely a thing if you want to be a good and godly wife. I'm sorry the church you went to tried to make you feel shitty about taking care of your sexual needs solo, that's fucked. I know a lot of people, men and women, who have had to unlea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:46 AM
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I think studies show that every generation 50% of men got weeded out Studies have in fact found that more women than men had offspring survive into adulthood and make a child of their own. Reproduction in the study I'm thinking of was defined this way, simply having a baby isn't enough to count as reproducing. As to why more women had offspring survive to have an offspring of their own, well, that seems obvious. Young men were often sent to die for their tribes/states/countries. To this day, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:11 PM
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"Should" is where I have a problem. She has the option to, of course, and it would be nice, but "should" ? As in obligated? As in she's a bad partner if she doesn't? Nah. Same for him and going shopping if he doesn't want to, it's a missed opportunity to bond and spend time together, sure, but I'd rather wait til he can come with some enthusiasm 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:46 PM
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What is a boring woman? The answers are probably pretty similar. It's someone whose company makes you want to fall asleep or walk away out of boredom. They might be interesting to someone else, but if they're boring to you then 🤷🏼‍♀️ Game over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:01 PM
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The people giving the advice probably don't know enough to diagnose the issue that specifically. Usually the autistic person just reads as "off", maybe with a small handful of semi-specific markers (such as eye contact or speech patterns) but probably not enough clue in on neurodivergence. Add in some masking, and again, the person who is saying "personality" just doesn't have enough info to get more specific, so they reach for the easy answer. Ultimately unhelpful, sure, but 🤷🏼‍♀️ your average …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:25 AM
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What child-free people do YOU know? 😂 They sound wild. My best friend is child-free, and my experience is quite different. She's a school teacher who is married for over 10 years. She supports her husband financially while he's finishing up his degree. She and her nerdy husband play d&d and video games (in fact that's how we met). They go on trips sometimes and take hikes with their dog. They're saving up for a house. She grows plants and veggies on her apartment balcony. She paints and crochets…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:05 PM
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I would hope this is something that's dying out as engaged fathers are becoming more and more of a thing But it's weird for both parents in an equal and healthy relationship when one parent is being praised for, say, changing a diaper or being willing to hold their kid for a few minutes while the other parent catches a break. It's insulting to both of their efforts, hers because it's implied that she's the default parent and her work even though it's sometimes more is somehow less worthy of reco…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:42 PM
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What is a Sophie series? What women are you hanging out with that makes you think a majority of women want to talk about nothing but this series? 😂 Starting to sound like you only know or see a small handful of women and then assume all other women are like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:12 PM
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Are they overestimating women's intellectual capacity or are they info dumping their special interest on a person whose own interest they took no time to gage? In the middle of a party, no less. I don't go dumping all my autistically acquired knowledge in the middle of a shindig, not because the other people are stupid, but because that isn't their special interest and to insist on a "deep conversation" about a topic the other party had no say or interest in would be rude and boorish. Unless I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:04 PM
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Soooo many assumptions in this comment 😂 Why is he looking to insult the woman? If he's "just trying to gain power back" are you assuming he has a small dick? And that he's been shamed for it? And that he's been shamed for it by this woman? Or are you saying he's taking past experiences out on this woman? How can you be so sure about this stranger man's reasoning, honesty, and excitement level? Would penis size shaming be more acceptable if it were only done to insult and hurt and "take power ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:03 PM
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You accuse her of flip flopping so surely you can point me to where SHE said the things you say, "Women often say" ? Because of course you're not leveling an accusation against her because of what other people have said. That would be ridiculous. That would be like me trolling through PPD making you answer for everything your fellow dudes have said, some of which is quite contradictory. It's a dumb way to have an argument. But that couldn't be what you're doing, so... Receipts ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:41 PM
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While I've seen some flip-flopping in my time in this subreddit it seems to me that the majority of these accusations are levied at a woman who says something contradictory to what a different woman said on a different thread in a different subreddit in a different context and is accused none the less of changing her own tune (or the tune of "women" as if we're a giant blob) Similar to what you've just done, for instance. A lack of understanding of nuance also contributes to this perception of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:35 PM
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I don't believe the other commenter was advocating for no PIV sex, but compromise is often possible. For instance, sex and then a BJ for you (since you didn't get to cum from the PIV) and sex and then head or a vibrator for the woman from the other comment (since she didn't get to cum from the PIV) Mutual enjoyment should be the goal. Sometimes that's both people getting off at the same time, but sometimes it's one at a time, and that can be fun/hot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:25 PM
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Yeah? Is that the truth? Women don't leave relationships for any reason besides boredom? Women will put up with anything else, no self respect at all, only entertainment needs? Or was that just a fun little put-down that felt good in the moment but falls apart at the first second of actual thought? My vote is with the latter. "Truth" would have added value to the conversation, ironically the only value you added was entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:06 PM
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Right, because it's a fantasy. Fantasy happens in the mind, where everything happens exactly as one pictures it and one doesn't have to trust another human being to correctly interpret that fantasy or to be a good enough person to want to interpret your fantasy correctly, or at bare minimum in ways that aren't harmful. The fantasy has zero real life risks or consequences. It's entirely safe. It's a completely different ballgame than real life and being at the mercy of someone bigger and stronger…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:30 AM
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First of all, I was discussing the idea that of whether or not the male reproductive system and physical strength in general are benefits, generally. So, stay on topic. Neither of these issues being better off than women mean that men do not have other problems. Different problems. Their reproductive system and their physical strength just aren't two of their problems. Not having those problems is a benefit when compared to someone who does have those problems. Are we on the same page now? Secon…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:40 AM
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Sure, and if all women make the same choice humanity will cease to exist. Thank you for adding nothing of value to the conversation 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 06:00 PM
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Exactly. You just establish healthy boundaries, for one, and not everyone I wanna be friends with is someone I wanna be intimate with, either. My friend's husband's, for instance, are wonderful guys ... For my friends. I'll stick to being friends with the guys, they just aren't who I'd want to share a life with because we wouldn't mesh well or would possibly even annoy each other. But we can totally be friends. They're interesting, intelligent, and fun to be around generally. I don't want to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:14 AM
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Man, when I tell you that you would NOT ENJOY what happens to the female genitals when she reproduces 😂 Not to mention having your body strip-mined for resources, including the calcium from your bones and teeth for 9 months. 9 months of suck and general vulnerability because of all the changes and stress your body is going through growing something that puts increasing strain on every part of your body, eventually throwing off your center of balance so that every movement is harder and sleep is …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:21 PM
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That's only one way to split chores. As long as the couple is looking at what the chore divide is and making sure it's equitable time/energy/suck wise 🤷🏼‍♀️ A lot of those outdoor chores get hired out, these days, though I still see the whole fam doing yardwork together, too. Lots of women do the bulk of the yardwork (self included) especially in older households. I assume that like mine, their partners take on something else that's a fair trade. I think this "inside chores" vs "outside chores" …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:11 AM
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Most couples either split the outdoor chores, hire out the outdoor chores, or live in an apartment with no outdoor chores. Lotta chore splitting going on these days, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:53 AM
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It's men that are complaining about loneliness and a lack of care/kindness in their lives. It sounds like there's a need that a lot of men have that a lot of other men are capable of filling, just as women are well known for doing for each other, but apparently men aren't doing that? According to the men who are struggling with loneliness and emotional support, anyway. It's not that women don't "approve", it's just that we've largely solved these loneliness problems amongst ourselves and we're t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:43 PM
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The point is that as women we're hearing very conflicting stories from men about men, but in each post we're expected to take men at their words. Which men should we believe? Why should it be you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:33 PM
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He's my safe person and he works really hard to be my safe person. He lets me be his safe person and trusts me even though it's really hard for him sometimes. We both come from traumatic backgrounds that have given us opposite coping mechanisms and triggers, but he's always been aware of that and he's so careful to use that knowledge to defuse as many bombs as possible. When bombs inevitably have gone off while we've both been working on ourselves and untangling our inner selves he's been really…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:23 PM
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I'm not asking you to distinguish between the reddit population and the rest of the world. I am calling out that you made a thread dismissing the idea that a large percentage of women experience a thing, asking if that's really something many women have experienced, and then when a large percentage of the women who reply say, "Yes, this is absolutely a thing I experienced" you decide, "Oh well this must just be a reddit thing" Instead of thinking, "Perhaps there are lots of people with lots of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:48 PM
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Bro, YOU have a particular goal, and if YOU don't reach it in an efficient manner YOU will feel like a failure. You are not everyone, however. The human race is not made up of clones of you. Different people have different goals and different plans of attack, they also place different levels of value on reaching that "goal". Some people might think it's kinda nice if they end up getting there but don't really mind if they don't, some people will feel like a failure if they don't reach their part…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:25 PM
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I'm sure that's a much easier thought for you to live with and I hope that keeping your head in the sand brings you more peace than the women you dismiss will ever get 💜 Maybe some day you'll get more experience with a wider cross section of women and you'll finally hear how often and how universal our experience really is. Maybe then you'll be interested in listening. Until then I guess keep asking questions you don't want the answer to 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:11 PM
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Huh, I see teenagers at work pretty much any time I go out, especially if I hit up fast food! It feels like most of my local food joints are staffed with at least half of the workers being under 18. And the neighborhood kids (16ish) talk about their part-time jobs sometimes, too. So I know they're working. It's definitely still a thing in my area.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:58 PM
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I'm sure any casual looking at women that you're doing is completely normal and acceptable human behavior. The leering that most women are talking about is a whole other level of creep. And before some moron rushes in to say "Right, cuz he was ugly and that makes him a creep!" Let me say, some of the dudes who creeped me out the most and made me feel the most unsafe in their presence were incredibly good looking. ... Until they looked at me like I was a literal sizzling steak and they were a sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:29 PM
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Failure depends on the goal... If the goal was to drive around and have a good time, and they drove around and had a good time, then they succeeded. Just because you might have a particular goal in mind and the "best" route in mind to achieve it that doesn't mean that holds true for everyone. You're here arguing with someone for having different goals than you and telling them that makes them a failure. But why? You're not their ideal road trip partner, apparently, but that doesn't mean either o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:58 PM
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Is it? Define "weird" ? Weird is entirely subjective, it's vibes. In fact the original comment that started this thread described it as so vague as to be hard to counter-argue, which you didn't disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 06:45 PM
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Not "anything else" is incredibly vague. In fact some insults and slurs can be rather specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:55 AM
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Oh absolutely! I definitely think our society failed a lot of people and has made cycles of abuse harder to break and easier to fall into. Men can be both victims and perpetrators, often a perpetrator is first one and then the other because that's all they know, and that isn't their fault. I mean, as an adult at some point you have the responsibility to break the cycle or the cycle becomes your fault. But teens/young adults that grew up in an abusive home deserve the grace of acknowledging they …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:38 PM
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I'm happy for you that you've known such wholesome people, I hope that's really the case, sometimes you can't really tell from the outside. My dad was abusive but it was completely hidden from friends and family alike. No one outside my intimate family unit knew the truth of what our "happy" lives were like behind closed doors. And yes, I have known women in actual abusive relationships. Usually women I've worked with or casual acquaintances, but their abuse wasn't so secret, their abuser didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:18 PM
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I once again think that you're speaking from your biased perspective and not thinking of women as the varied human beings with hugely varying personalities and life experiences that they are. I've watched many women around me embrace a growth mindset that extends to their emotional maturity and desire to be a genuinely good person simply because that is who they want to be. Not because of any lack of "bailout". I and the women I surround myself with have all acknowledged to our husbands, friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:56 PM
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Yes, you said two sentences at the very beginning that had to do with the topic, and while they added nothing to this discussion (imo) they were at least "clear". Those are not the sentences or points I specifically called out, however. I was talking about the actual bulk of your comment. Uncontroversial statements don't tend to get much pushback, you see. It's shit like, "Men who beat and kill their wives do it out of love" and, "Women are in such a crazy rush to divorce men, fOr SoMe ReAsOn" e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:32 PM
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Maybe they're divorcing the "madly in love" men who are physically abusing and killing them? No seriously tho, this comment was wild. It reads like, "Men are beating and killing you guys out of love! Meanwhile you're rushing to divorce us?? Y'all women are so incapable of just being in a damned marriage!" I feel like you probably just had a couple points you really wanted to say out loud, and it kinda feels like you really wanted to turn this conversation back to women instead of staying on topi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:19 PM
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You admit that "a lot" of men also never learn from the bad or toxic traits that led to a bad relationship, can you concede that a lot of women might be capable of learning, changing, vetting better, etc and that those women will be far less vocal than miss "Can't learn, wont learn, men ain't shit" ? I noticed that in your breakdown of how each sex reacts to a breakup you gave men nuance ("Men grow! Well, some of them don't..." ) while you seem to put women not only in a one-note box, but that o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:09 PM
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It is chiefly through the patriarchy that men keep other men in check And I just get to sit back and hope the "good" men who for some reason have my best interests in mind over theirs will win this dumbass battle? Pass. Plus I feel like there are other ways to keep bad people in check, ways that don't involve one gender having "authority" over the other, and you just don't want to entertain those ideas, for some reason. Don't men have authority over women? I mean according to the feminist narrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:43 AM
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Yeah yeah, big man roar loud, we get it, we're just not impressed. Fuck your white birth rates, if white men can't demonstrate enough value to women to pass on their genes 🤷🏼‍♀️ the human race lives on, bro. Many races and cultures have died out to a collective global yawn, white folks will be no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:36 AM
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Tell that to the people of all genders and colors who did a lot of the work, bro. Women even contributed to the phone you're texting on and the internet and computers that run it 😱 Y'all aren't special just cuz you were born with a white dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:26 AM
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In what ways was the Barbie movie anti-male? What specifically did they say, or what explicitly anti-male messaging did you object to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:05 PM
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No no no, it's "armies" of purely female academics and they want to enact their evil plot to... Vaccinate people against a virus that was ripping through the country causing death, lasting damage to brains, lungs, and other organs, and of course, causing general chaos. But the fact that they all agree on the same scientifically backed course of action is incredibly sus 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:48 PM
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And marital rape was legal And sexual harassment in the workplace was incredibly commonplace And a woman's doctor could and sometimes did talk to her husband about her medical issues, sometimes instead of her. We have stories of women dying of illnesses neither they nor their husband told them about. We have stories of husbands and a woman's doctor (who was selected by her husband) talking only to the husband about her mental health as well, as they both worked together to make her more "agreeab…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:43 PM
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Who are the partnered men most likely to be violent to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:23 PM
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You know, not all women are looking for a relationship at all times. Sometimes we are happily single, freshly out of a relationship, freshly out of a bad relationship, or even in a relationship with a different person. Some women are even lesbians And attractive men can still be creepy, arrogant, aggressive, and rather a jerk, even when their timing is appropriate, which again, is not always the case. Hope that cleared some stuff up for you 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:35 AM
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Bro I was using my marriage as an example to simplify a concept you seem to be struggling with. My relationship doesn't need to be real. You have to be able to acknowledge that relationships of 20+ years DO in fact exist. You cannot possibly be dense enough to not be able to grasp that fact. 20 years is a long time. It is a long-term, sword or no sword. You can't stomp your feet and make 20 yrs no longer count as long-term just because you said so. But if you still can't understand that words re…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:26 AM
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Words don't lose their meaning just because you want them to. It's long-term if it's been a long time. We can quibble over what constitutes a "long time", but the fact that all things end doesn't mean nothing ever exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:48 PM
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I'm gonna guess you hang out in male centered places and she hangs out in female centered spaces, which is to say: You're both probably right. Some members of each sex let themselves go in various ways after they've locked down a partner. Y'all are both more likely to hear the stories from your own sex which gives each of you the impression that the "other" does it more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:50 PM
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you know yourself that most women gaslight men with "only personality matters", to keep a "moral high ground", why are you trying to twist it? What I know is that often women try to have conversations that involve nuance, variety, a hierarchy of wants/needs, the changing wants and needs that come with maturity and growth, and some men want to insist that looks is all that matters, and then when women say, "Nuh uh there are tons of factors" those same men hear, "Looks don't matter AT ALL". Which …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:25 PM
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Sure, we can definitely agree that women have more options and higher chances of achieving her "type" But my argument that someone not being your particular type isn't a personal insult and certainly doesn't mean you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:21 PM
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That’s not being a decent human being in my opinion. What isn't? I was asking you why you said, "For what reason?" In reply to someone saying that you be fun, exciting, and still a decent person. I'm trying to understand if you can't see the point in being fun and decent at the same time. What makes sb good is subjective. I do not think like you. What are you even talking about? You don't know how I think because all I've done is ask a clarifying question about a statement you made and your repl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:10 PM
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What have the women said they consider to be a level of drama and excitement that they would want in their lives? Specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:05 PM
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That's probably why I said "some". You're not all military men, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:01 PM
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I wasn't even talking about penis size, but preferring something doesn't tell us anything about how important that preference actual is. Ask a bunch of dudes about their visual preferences and they'd probably be pretty unattainable for the average woman, especially where, say, breast size comes into play. That doesn't mean those dudes aren't perfectly happy with their normal looking girlfriends tho. It's just an ideal preference in a "perfect" world. The question asked was completely detached fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:57 PM
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BUT every bluepiller told me looks don't matter First of all, I doubt every blue piller told you that And a big reason for that doubt is because there is no "blue pill". Blue Pill is simply the absence of taking the red pill. My mom is "blue pill" and she's never even heard of this shit, but that's why she's "blue pill"... Because she isn't "Red Pill" So while saying that "Red Pill says," has actual meaning, because they try to have an actual philosophy and whatnot, "Blue Pill says," is meaningl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:39 PM
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A person can be objectively handsome and still not my type tho ?? Ever see girls talking about boy bands? Each girl will have opinions on which of these dudes, selected in part by the industry for their good looks, that she does or doesn't feel drawn too. All the dudes are good looking, but their looks vary on purpose to appeal to a higher number of women, and not every woman will find all 5 attractive. Most will have 1 fave, 2-3 alternates, and the remainder get left behind to be swooned over b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:15 PM
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I think you're imagining more drama and excitement than the average woman is. I like that you brought up teenagers tho, because I feel like men on this subreddit often don't understand that women do actually mature past teenagerhood. They become adults with adult wants and needs at some point. But a lot of men on here talk about adult women as if we're still teenagers looking for high levels of drama and excitement instead of the reality which is that we want to, for instance, occasionally go so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:05 PM
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My incredibly nice husband took me mudding on one of our first dates, it was some abandoned lot and it was definitely exciting and we did hit something so there was some danger 😂 Y'all maybe just need to get more creative when it comes to generating "danger" and excitement, and also remember that those terms mean different things to different people, and that they don't have to be turned up to 100 to count.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:59 PM
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What reason for being a decent human being? Is that what you're asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:56 PM
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Is their complaint that those dudes weren't very nice? Is that part of what made them trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:55 PM
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And when she gets harassed and possibly hurt because she's insulted a man who happens to be angry and violent, what then? The polite rejection is not just to gracefully protect his feelings as much as is possible in that moment. It's also for safety in the face of a stranger you're rejecting. A stranger whose personality you don't know, whose tendency towards violence isn't known. I don't know if you know this but men are both more prone to violence but also bigger and stronger than women, and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:48 PM
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Reading this thread has me very concerned about the cobwebs, deeply laid dust and grime, and other "deep clean" but important household maintenance that isn't being done in their homes. Oh the allergens 😂 "I just wanna be able to find the remote", Said on this thread and perfectly encapsulating the problem. I don't know about y'all, but yeah, guests coming over sometimes makes me take a harder look at what I've been putting off for too long. But that stuff needed to be cleaned anyway, I'm just c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:10 PM
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That's you and your preferences though. I've known quite a few men with high cleaning standards in my life. I've heard them complain and fuss, I've seen the looks. Ever hang around former military dudes? Or heavily religious dudes? Some of them are strict and judgy lol My dad was neither former military or very religious, but he was the one wanting mega cleaning done every damn weekend. My mom hated it 😂 but realized it wasn't worth the argument. It's really cool that you're chill, but you are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:52 PM
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Where? I'm a woman living in America, in 4 different cities in 2 very different states and I don't know these women?? I've met one woman who was "extra" in her cleaning (imo) and her husband was 100% on board with her and even added stuff 😂 they were just a weird couple, not a reflection on other couples. So... Where are these women that want the walls wiped down every day? This thread is reading like a really odd straw man thus far, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:43 PM
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I think terms like demisexual and reactive vs spontaneous libedo are still in their infancy as far as our understanding of them. I don't think we have a high enough percentage of the population even knowing what those terms mean in order to have a proper understanding of what the actual democratic break down is regarding who identifies with what. I wasn't able to find any good studies with a quick Google search, though maybe you've had more luck ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:48 AM
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Very few public school administrators actually put their children into the system and instead pay for private schooling. What are the differences between public and private schools? You still have kids sent to a building with teachers and other kids, classes, recess, etc So what do you think are the big differences that might affect test scores? Public schools aren't struggling in every country/state/city, so what do the struggling schools have in common? What do the thriving schools have in com…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:07 PM
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Overgeneralizing like saying, "All Women Are Like That"? That's bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:37 PM
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Gotta throw in, "Nah, guess again, it's somewhere we haven't been in a while" and just plain, "Nope, guess again" to keep it fresh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:54 AM
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Don't measure your worth against her and what she did or didn't choose. She isn't a healthy person or a good person, she probably doesn't even know what she wants at this point. But that's her problem. Let her go be toxic somewhere else. It'll take time, but uncouple her from your life and your thoughts. She is the past, she's over, learn the lessons that are worth learning (such as self respect and your right to have boundaries) and leave the rest behind. Left me for someone who's obviously the…
/r/ExRedPill18/07/24 11:17 PM
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Do you think those women were average and stable women? Or women with deep issues, much like the men who write to women who are murders and whatnot? Neither set of people seems like a good representation of the general public.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:55 AM
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A lot of women meet people via their friends, like if they have a friend or maybe a good coworker who has a single friend they might get the ball rolling that way. I know women among my friends who have met their husbands that way. Some met in college, taking a class together or again, via mutual friends. It's pretty much the reason that expanding one's social circle is given as dating advice, more mutual friends to recommend y'all to each other. Pre-vetted dating with potential social consequen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:48 AM
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I've been with my husband for about 20 years, we've only been with each other, we're all kinds of bonded and in love with much snugs and kissing and sexy stuff... But it'll never feel like being young, inexperienced, and flooded with teenage hormones, ever again. Because we grew up and that stuff isn't new anymore, regardless of the number of partners. Maybe I could get that "new relationship energy" again if dated again, but 🤷🏼‍♀️ it won't last, it'll still fade. And it'll never be like when I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:42 PM
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I used to be that girl and it was because deep down I hated femininity because it seemed so limiting and confusing and not like what I felt like inside. (I grew up in a heavily conservative Christian household and culture that clearly warped my view of what "feminine" can mean) I wanted to be "not like other girls" and "one of the guys" because I didn't understand or fit in with other girls, and I rejected my femininity, and guys and I seemed to understand each other better. I'm sure there are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:11 AM
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That women don't like men they can control. Generally, yes, people do not like dating a bowl of plain oatmeal that will take any shape it's molded into. People tend to like a fully formed human being who knows their needs, boundaries, values, preferred vibes, and who protects those things and themselves. If a woman can "control" you then you probably don't know who you are and that isn't attractive. My husband was the first dude I dated who I couldn't "control", who knew who he was and didn't ap…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/24 05:45 PM
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Up until recently no one was diagnosed because no one knew what autism was. Autism is still very new as a concept. Then it seems scientists decided only white boys could have autism (boys, not men. Just boys) and only boys who were also high support needs were getting diagnosed while boys with low support needs and especially in any under-served communities were also undiagnosed. And of course adults of all kinds were flying under the radar. They literally thought people grew out of it so adult …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:45 AM
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Okay? So what? It's eventually going to fall... Potentially after a long time, right? Like... A long term wait for the fall, like, a long term relationship with waiting for the fall. It's still a long term if it lasts for a long time. Again, my 20yr relationship with my husband is still a LONG TERM relationship even if we get divorced tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:54 PM
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I came uncomfortably close to dying both times I gave birth, both times came with extended stays in the hospital afterwards. But no, I don't know anyone who died giving birth. I haven't had any of my friends or acquaintances die of anything, actually. Knock on all the wood, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:53 AM
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None? Is a relationship only "long term" if it ends in death or something? Everything short of death is "short term"? Does my 20 years of being in a relationship with my husband not count as long term because divorce exists? What an odd view.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 11:46 PM
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Bro the jobs got outsourced and automated decades ago and that's just been continuing. They're not coming back. Women in the workforce has nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:12 AM
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imagine if the U.S. went back to being a 99% religious country Citation needed for that 99% in 1950 Are all religions equal, so, any religion will do? does my plan not seem easily possible then? How will you get people to believe in something they don't currently believe in?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:39 AM
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Does not wanting to spend time with someone else need an extra justification? Some people don't like me. That opinion disproportionately affects me over them, because they can (and do) choose not to hangout with me. But they're perfectly justified in having that opinion and in "affecting me" by rejecting me. Not only that, but there also isn't a happy middle-ground solution that can affect each party equally. Or at least not one that I've come up with 🫤
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:19 AM
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Just like Miss "Kill all men" needs time to heal, cool down, and remember that men are people too before she's ready to fully engage with society and date, just like she needs time to work on herself, so does the misogynistic dude before he should be looking to date or expecting anyone to be willing to date him. Are you signing up to date Miss "Kill all men"? Cuz I'm not. I can give her grace for whatever she's going through, but I'm also giving her a wide berth because she's in a toxic phase of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:17 PM
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I'm sorry, I haven't heard this before so I'm going to have a few questions, I hope you don't mind. You're saying that women are afraid of men in their spaces because women are scared that men will wreck the space with foreign (to women) concepts like logic, rational mind, and common sense? Women, collectively, block men from spaces in order to block logic, rational minds, and common sense? Or they block evil men who want to wreck the space? I'm trying to get a fuller picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:56 PM
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So, when the man insults you and calls you a beta that makes you feel that your problem has been acknowledged? Because otherwise it seems like you're completely changing the original topic. Unless we've been misunderstanding each other from the jump and we need to back up ? I agree with you that the insults a person uses can give insights to their own personal insecurities and problems, but I don't see how that's what you were saying when I originally asked for clarity. I'd hate to think that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:45 PM
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You said an insult was an acknowledgement. Thus if I'm insulting then I'm simultaneously acknowledging, according to you. I'd be doing both. So I'm not sure why you're accusing me of wanting to do one but not the other ? Especially since my second sentence was, "I feel like there should be a better way, somehow." Meaning, "I'd rather find a way to acknowledge someone's problem without insulting them." I hope that cleared that up 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:21 PM
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Omg my reply to this is basically just, "Agree!" Over and over paragraph by paragraph, lmao. Not much in the way of notes, I'm afraid 😂 The only paragraph I had anything to say about (beyond commiserating and agreeing) was this one: Agree with you that men need to work on our issues from our side too, the problem is that feminism doesn't want to let that happen because it doesn't trust men to come up with the proper solution. Feminism doesn't want to actually deal with men's issues, but doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:12 PM
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And women. I grew up in a heavily conservative culture in the USA, and even behind closed doors in a room of only other women I watched them uphold and even praise the old gender roles. Imo mostly because it put them "above" other women who didn't. Women can uphold gender norms for safety, for clout, for status, because they think it's "right", etc. We can quibble over "who started it" but if you're letting women off the hook because men started it, then the modern man should be off that hook to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:17 PM
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So you're telling me I should insult men more often to show them that I acknowledge their problems? 🤔 I feel like there should be a better way, somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:01 PM
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I re-read the comment and couldn't find where she said that. Could you quote it for me, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:54 PM
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The only times I've ever heard this said they mean their partner keeps them on their toes and encourages them to keep growing as a person. The good, character building, hold each other to account "challenge" Not the argumentative "challenge"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:24 PM
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I'm sorry that you were given shitty and dismissive advice 🫤 That's not okay and I hope you've found people who care about you since then I was hoping to find some actually helpful advice for men, though. Solutions, not dismissiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:16 PM
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I agree with all four of your points. Thank you so much for taking the time to write that out. That was very well thought out and reasonable, though really it's only because of the subreddit we're in that I'm surprised 😂 I know there are good solutions out there to mens problems, people on this subreddit just don't tend to really care about them (certain men included) I agree that at least some segment of the feminist movement should be focused on mutual aid, we can't have healing without coming…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:24 PM
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So, if women silently and without complaint build their own lives, their finances, their social groups, etc, ... This will help men get relationships? This will solve the dating crisis? How? Seems to me the women who are doing this are then going their own way entirely more often than men would like. Do you think your "solution" would fix that or make it worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:50 PM
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And I'm saying that for women their arms are even weaker than guys proportionally to their legs. That's literally all I'm saying. So an arm wrestling contest that is a man vs a woman is doubly rigged in a man's favor. All I'm saying is she'd have more of a fighting chance using her legs. That it. That was my whole point. She's still gonna lose but she'll have more of a fighting chance. Re-read what I said without looking for an argument from me. I'm not arguing with you, we are generally in agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:40 PM
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What solutions would you like to see put in place? How would you like those solutions to be enacted?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:51 PM
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Why are you so defensive about this lol? You're right, why would I be? I met my husband on a dating app back before it was cool, I have no problem admitting that women use dating apps. I was simply curious about this idea that women are sneakily skewing data for "reasons" that I'd love to hear. In any case they don’t “skew” anything lol I’m saying whoever collects the data must be reading it wrong ... Then say, "The researchers must be bad at their job" not "Normie gaslighting", and "What happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:45 AM
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I didn't say that women have a stronger lower body strength than men do, I said that where men and women have the higher proportion of their personal muscle mass is different, and opposite. Men are already stronger than women, yes? We agree? I'm not disputing this. On the whole body. An equally trained dude is gonna win 9/10 times. No argument here. What I'm saying is, women carry more of their muscle mass in their lower body than men do, which means the deck is doubly stacked against women in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:32 AM
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I dunno, man, I've seen some challenges where dudes (equally proficient dudes, just people with different skills, essentially, because they play a different sport or whatever) And sometimes the dudes get smoked by the women 🤷🏼‍♀️ There are some squat challenges, for instance, that are pretty cool. Endurance can also be what ends up giving a woman the edge, even for something with upper body strength. Again, I'm not disputing that guys are on average stronger, faster, etc. But I do disagree with …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:17 AM
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It's possible to recognize something about yourself without making that recognition obnoxious and off-putting, and the later seems to be the accusation. Not just innocent and honest recognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:13 AM
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What happens is women are sneaky. What do women have to gain by skewing the data? Is this being done on purpose? Is this a concerted effort, with a plan and a goal, or coincidental individual choices that happen to have that effect? Don’t be fooled 100% of women at some point are on the apps. Let's pretend that isn't a silly statement to make, because 100% of any group is ridiculous, let's say 100% of women have at some point been on a dating app ... You said yourself they're on and then off ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:42 AM
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Adding on: If we, as individual people out here, agree that we would like to work towards the best version of equality we can, it makes sense for the female side of the coin to be focused on by the same exact people who are actually facing those issues. That's who knows what the problem is, because they live it, and what changes would be the most beneficial. It makes sense that one gender would lead the charge for their own issues, with members of the "other side" joining in to help and support …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:37 PM
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Young men don't tend to have to envision 9 months of pregnancy, the sheer mental and physical effort that being pregnant takes on a constant basis, a pause or setback in their education or career, or life altering bodily changes and damage that they'll carry for life, so ... That might contribute to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:13 PM
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Okay, I'm not going to dispute the fact that the average man is stronger than the average woman... But your challenge is an arm wrestling match. Men have proportionally stronger upper body strength, women have proportionally strongerlower body strength. You challenged women to a fight rigged in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:55 PM
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I guess women want to face extreme hostile sexism since that's how they're treating men. Weird but if that's how it's gonna be then I can do my part 🤷‍♂️ Do you plan to ask individual women where they came down on the bear question? Or just assume that all women everywhere have heard the question in the first place, and they also all choose the bear? How many of the women who choose the bear do you think did so in response to sexism directed at them? Just as you're choosing retaliation for the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:06 AM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:43 AM
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Girls are punished for this too, it's why many women are people pleasers and then they go through a "Fuck you, I'll do what I want" phase before hopefully coming out the other side a more balanced individual. I think most people's lives improve when they learn to stay true to themselves. ... But it's definitely a learning process.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:55 PM
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Yeah it's very insulting when they would take the best case bear and worst case man. I don't think it was "best case vs worse case" necessarily, I'm sure some people did answer that way, but I also heard a lot of "at least the bear will be quick". Worst case vs worst case. But I completely understand how hurt men felt at hearing that answer. I agree that too many women need to remember that men are human beings, too. That men have feelings, that insults can hurt them, and that being rejected in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:14 AM
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What else would you like women to do, specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:08 AM
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You have to remember your audience, as well. This is a place full of hurt people and trolls on both sides, each making it that much harder to get through to each other with every new comment. You made very valid points. Women are tired and worn down from fighting misogyny in our society and our everyday lives, but we have to be able to look for the helpers and those in need of help if we want to keep a positive feedback loop. This just isn't a great audience for that message, unfortunately.... E…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:59 AM
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The real answer, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:54 AM
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I think the hypothetical also had people immediately think of the worst case scenario, and not the most likely. What kind of bears one is familiar with would also play a part. If you're thinking of the worst case, and it's a random man and the worst a human can inflict, vs a scaredy bear ... Add in some trauma from lived experience, some real life horror stories, and of course lots of women went that route. I'll bet lots of women went with the "funny" answer over the real answer, too. Not thinki…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:54 AM
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I wonder where they're hiding? Maybe on some obscure island in the pacific or on the planet Venus? I have felt this way regarding good men, sometimes... good people, even. I think it's because our social circles determine soo much of what kind of people we interact with. I hope you're able to find the circles with the good women! Perhaps look for women who are already hanging with guy friends? Maybe some pre-vetting from other dudes will help while you're getting out of your current circle of cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:54 PM
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I just don't get offended if men ask to come. That's all. That's a good point. I wonder if the women friends are butthurt about being turned down and that's why it's a problem that they ask? Because you're right, I see no problem in asking as long as "No, we wanna do a guy thing" is an acceptable answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:43 PM
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I'm 38 I was always like this Yes my friends are similar, in fact were often brainstorming how to get these men of ours to go fuck off together and have some bro time 😂 ( they're introverted homebodies with social anxiety, they have a blast once they get together, but getting them there is like pulling teeth) My dad can go to hell and stay there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:40 PM
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Why is it okay for you to have female friends but not okay for her to have male friends? What is the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:37 PM
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Genuinely, if a woman in your life isn't caring about your emotional well-being, you do not need that woman in your life. There are many, many women who love men as people. Don't settle for less, my dude. But you're also correct that men need to be able to be vulnerable with other men. I've seen my husband's friend group really make an effort recently to be more emotionally available and open with each other and they all seem happier and closer. It's beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:12 PM
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I agree with 90% of your points, but I disagree that it's intentional. I think it's women not leaving their own personal bubble and really sitting with the realities of that generational emotional stunting and thinking with empathy. Which I'm not "defending" but I would like to try and explain. I also think that your opinion that it's intentional is you not leaving your bubble to understand that many women have been doing the work, desperately trying to give their male friends/partners/fathers e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:06 PM
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I totally understand wanting a "guys trip", just like I totally understand wanting a "girls trip" and an "everybody trip". Different people change the vibe, even on an individual level, so I completely get a whole other gender throwing off the vibe as well. They established a dude thing, they are well within their rights to protect it if that's important to them. The women can go on their own trip if they want. As long as all the dudes are wholesome I don't understand the problem. There's stuff …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:15 PM
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As a woman, I'm gonna have to say I agree with you, there. For both men and women you have people who uphold unhelpful gender roles/expectations for two main reasons, imo: The people who these roles actively benefit, for whom those rigid roles offer some cover or comfort (this can absolutely include women, especially white and wealthy) And the dupes, who uphold gender roles because they think for whatever reason it's "right" and thus also "safe", be that nature, or morality, or whatever. (And ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:01 PM
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You keep using terms like, "spending all her time", "constantly surrounded" ... Who is married and spending all their time constantly surrounded by their friends of any gender?? I've had male friends off and on during my 17yr marriage, first of all, none of them have hit on me. Ever. Not once. And this is not because I'm unattractive or unamusing, random dudes and coworkers have hit on me plenty, but not men who I have allowed to be my friends. Those men have treated me and my relationship with …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:38 PM
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Is that what "most" women say?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:48 AM
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Did we read the same comment? The comment I read seemed to say that men should be free to bend the gender roles at their will but that they should also understand the changes that makes to their available dating pool. So no, I don't think he is saying it's okay to tell men to "man up", but some women may not be attracted to an emotional man (I would call that woman shallow and immature, but that's beside the point) It's not okay to call a man a loser if he loses his job or isn't a provider, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 05:37 AM
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Women normally expect a marriage, will a prenup scare them away (they don't have the chance to save up a few grand in a private account, hand me divorce papers, and take my car, house, and belongings)? Some women will accept a prenup, others will find it offensive, some will have valid reasons for either reaction, some will have selfish reasons. If a prenup is important to you then find a woman who accepts it. Each person keeping the assets they brought in is usually no biggie, and y'all can dec…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 05:47 PM
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Hey man, I've been married for almost 17 years and have married friends who have all been married 10+ years so let me take a whack at this: Is the relationship automatically over if you lose respect? Lose some respect over an issue that isn't fundimentally important? Nah, that's fine, it happens. I'm sure I've done things that have caused my husband to lose some respect for me, too, but because neither of us has hit on something fundimentally important, and because there are so many other areas …
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 05:46 PM
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Why? And also, one person's pleasure can come first while still leaving plenty of room for the other person to enjoy themselves thoroughly. The person being called out apparently thinks women enjoying themselves isn't important at all, which is a far cry from arguing over whose pleasure should come first.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:24 PM
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Marriage offers many protections and rights for the spouse. From the right to visit your spouse in the hospital (non-family is often barred during emergencies) To children and the desire to have those children united under one protected legal unit To things like wills and funeral arrangements, where a partner without legal status would be at the whim of the blood relatives without careful proper planning (and even then blood relatives have quite an upper hand) Beyond being a declaration of inten…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:08 PM
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Adding on: "Believe women" doesn't mean to lock men up without trial. It means treat the accuser as if they aren't lying or being hysterical and let the police/justice system investigate. "Believe women" became a thing because dismissing women out of hand without an investigation has been an ongoing problem. Women just wanted their abuse and rape treated with the same dignity, respect, and investigation as any other crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:51 PM
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So how do you explain the powerful women that have existed in history before feminism? The majority of the women you listed got their power by being the only available person in their family line... There not being so much as a 3 week old male baby in the family line somewhere is how I explain adult women getting power. And that desperately needed bloodline-having woman will very likely have been the only woman with power during that time in history. All of her advisors, all the Lord's and Dukes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:11 AM
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He always has the right to divorce her, no special circumstances required. And if he's out getting drunk and getting another woman's perfume on him I think divorce is for the best anyway, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 08:16 AM
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What was a good insight? The post or the response calling her out for her post? Because the way that last sentence was phrased makes it sound like you think her post was a good representation, but not the response she got calling her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:43 AM
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A woman didn't post this study here, a woman wasn't trying to use this study to make a particular point in this subreddit. I'm not disagreeing with the study, I don't resent that it was done, it was interesting to read. I just don't see that it proves any major point you were making. I disagree with your usage of the study in this thread, not the study itself or its existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:57 PM
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Too long didn’t even read any of that. In that case I can't fathom why I wouldn't do the same. Peace ✌🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:49 PM
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So, it's not that women, as a whole, engage in high levels of intersexual competitiveness, and that includes recommending chopping large amounts of hair off of rivals... It's that of the women studied, the women who self-reported having high levels of intrasexual competitiveness recommended that "rivals" cut off less than a centimeter of extra hair? Some women in this study of under 500 women recommend cutting off less than a centimeter of extra hair and we all have to hear about it?? Fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:15 AM
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I’m not citing studies because it’s litieral common sense You're saying scientists don't ever feel the need to actually prove things and they're happy to just go off vibes? Interesting. Not my experience. And whatever study I send your gonna disqualify it Oh wait, so there are studies but you either admit that the only ones that "support" your claim have obvious flaws, or you're accusing the other commenter of acting in bad faith... Either way you don't feel the need to produce them, convenientl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:34 AM
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For example all the feminists in Ukraine have left the country when Russia started attacking. Can I get more information on this, please? I hadn't heard about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 01:46 AM
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There isn't actually any such thing as a purple pill, anyone who doesn't take the Red Pill takes the Blue Pill, it's a binary choice. There is no such thing as "blue pill ideology", there is only the absence of buying into red pill ideology. So, whatever your ideology, as long as it isn't "Red Pill", it's technically blue pill by default. So, it's not that "anyone who isn't blue pill is misogynistic", it's that red pill philosophy is seen as misogynistic, and anyone who doesn't agree with it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:21 PM
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Science says men need to be circumcised to prevent AIDS. Source on "science" saying that men need to be circumcised to prevent AIDS, please. How does RP know which science to accept and which to reject?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:12 PM
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In an ideal world our parents teach us how to manage our emotions and life doesn't throw anything (mental health issues, chemical imbalance, traumatic events) at us that we can't navigate on our own. Sometimes however people have shitty parents, who not only don't teach them to manage their emotions but also give them trauma on top of it. Sometimes life is incredibly cruel and events happen in our lives that are just too much to handle alone. Needing help isn't a failing, just like breaking your…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:06 PM
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I don't know why people on here have to so fervently place disclaimers and excuses over the fact that many women clearly love the kind of dynamic I'm talking about. My pushback is because of your use of the word "most", just as your disagreement is with my use of the word "some". My pushback is because far too many men assume "most" means "all" and that they don't need to ask for consent before they choke or slap or "dominate". It's becoming a problem that's more and more frequently discussed in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:16 PM
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That makes them exponentially more sexually arousing than nice guys, who are overly concerned with pleasing women, who let themselves be walked all over and who only do things because they think women will approve of. I mean, you're not wrong. A doormat isn't appealing to a healthy person, a doormat is appealing to someone who wants someone to walk on. (Generally. I'm not opposed to the concept of helping someone through the process of fixing themselves, having been on both sides of that coin) "…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:47 PM
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She wants you to have your way with her within boundaries. No shit, who is arguing with this? "She wants him to be a confident lover who knows her well enough to respect her boundaries and keep her feeling safe throughout" ... Mind blown. Best kept secret. Although feminist types will deny it, because it undermines their 'men and women are basically the same' argument I don't think anyone is denying that some women are into dominant men, the pushback is against the idea that all women are into d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:30 PM
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the vast majority of women still wish for the man to be the economic provider in a relationship Good for them, I guess. They probably aren't the same women marrying guys who make less than them, tho, so who cares? Let the people whose tastes go against the norm live their lives in ways that go against the norm and be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:22 AM
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The things she referenced didn't come from thin air. It's not her problem that you apparently haven't seen the same comments that she and I definitely have in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:55 AM
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Skirting around the "no personal attacks" rule in creative ways is half the fun 😂 And yeah, keeping emotion out of your language like a robot so that their insistence on your being, "Triggered, upset, mad, crying" etc rings hollow. Bonus points if they in fact did get mega butthurt and emotional over something like the simple fact that women have actually contributed to the building of society. I'm still not brave enough to make a top level comment very often, cuz the dog pile is real 🙄 but I li…
/r/ExRedPill09/06/24 04:04 PM
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Not all women have it Not all women listen to it over social pressures Not all women have learned how to listen to it at all Especially if they've had their gut feelings dismissed time and time again by authority figures to the point that they don't trust their own gut anymore Much akin to discipline, not everyone is born with intuition in the same amount and even then it must be consciously strengthened. I wouldn't expect a young, damaged, immature person to have developed much of either skill,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:31 PM
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Because fantasy is easy and real life is hard. We're talking about young people, young people don't know what life is like, because they haven't lived it. They have a bunch of assumptions they've picked up from various places, ideas about roles they think are "right" for them and their partner, and an overly romanticized and/or idealized future timeline all patched together into what they think looks fun, romantic, familiar, or even entirely new and promising, etc Then they get some real life ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:07 PM
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I disagree that it's settling, it's understanding that time and the realities of life exist beyond your mushy feelings. Time + the realities of life can take a hell of a toll on your "spark" if you're not careful, and the best way to be careful, imo, is to choose a partner who is someone who both lights that spark but who also has fuel to keep adding over time, and who doesn't actively waste your fuel. That's not settling, it's wanting a lasting flame and making choices to hopefully ensure that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:55 PM
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Answer the ridiculous question? No thank you. Make a better question if you want answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:43 PM
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The worst thing that can happen to a relationship is for a woman to be bored. She was replying to this. He brought up "the worst thing" ie, the "extreme", she simply brought the "worst thing" back to reality. Where there are far worse things than boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:29 PM
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Well, that's quite the impressive false dichotomy ya got going on there. Most women aren't getting unwanted attention for life, first of all, so a life sentence of loneliness in exchange for peace in your teens and 20s? Come on, man. Next, this extreme forever-alone option is not anywhere near to the average male experience. That is absolutely laughable. Most men will date, most men will marry, even. You're not getting answers because your choices are ridiculous and no one is stupid enough to gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:58 AM
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I'm sorry I have no idea what you're referring to. I was discussing the positive influence men can have as teachers, in case you got confused 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:44 AM
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Lmao, I said having more men as teachers would be a good thing for young boys and you got so mad you had to insult my intelligence? ... Interesting. I have no evidence that female teachers hate little boys. I'm sure the majority of teachers are just people who show up and do their jobs and generally like or tolerate children well, and some probably hate this or that various group for various reasons, or a certain kid, or a certain kind of kid, because some people suck. But I have no evidence tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:42 AM
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Bro, without knowing Chad's preferences how can anyone answer that? I don't know Chad, I don't know what he's looking for, I don't know what he values, I don't know what the "competition" is working with either. What do you expect us to say? Should we make up a Chad who happens to like all of the qualities we already possess? How is that informative or helpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:01 AM
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"Boys will be boys" is such a great saying, because boys really are so extra goofy sometimes 😂... But damn do lazy parents run with it as an excuse to not raise their boys! ... Then they'll tell people how much "easier" boys are than girls and it's like, that's cuz you chose not to raise him! ... It's sad, it's unfair, it sets those boys up badly for life. Anyway, I agree with you, boys need just as much social training and support as girls. They're only easier if you're not really trying. (Disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:22 PM
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It really would be fantastic if more men became teachers, I'm sure it would help young boys immensely... All kids, really. Not every kid gets blessed with decent parents, and a more "village" approach to kids would fill some of the gaps left, imo. But, until then, teachers being majority female is what we have to work with 🤷🏼‍♀️ ... Because that's who is signing up for the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 11:17 PM
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Maybe he should stop making children he doesn't have time for, then. His sperm is under his control. The man made a choice at least 11 times to bring a child into the world, 11 commitments made, maybe he should take some accountability for that. No one forced him to run 3 different companies, no one forced him to keep pumping out kids. These are choices he has made and continues to make. Expecting an adult to be present for their own kids is not ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:43 PM
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I’ve literally been on a date with a woman who had a list of 100 questions she wanted me to answer. That is one woman. Not all women. "Woman" is the singular and what you experienced, "women" is the plural, your singular experience doesn't apply to the plural. We also don't know what weight she placed on any particular answers of yours and if those questions were to vet you, to get to know you, both, or what combination. Maybe she struggles with small talk and she needed a list to help her not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:37 PM
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Who is Becky, then? I've heard her mentioned and compared to Stacy, but if all women are Stacy then I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:26 PM
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That didn't address their question in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:24 PM
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It's also legally sexual harassment in some jurisdictions. Can I see the law from a few different jurisdictions, please? I just wanna see how it's written.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:50 PM
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lesbian domestic violence is 70% Women in lesbian relationships are indeed rather likely to have experienced domestic partner violence... But not always from their current or former female partners, oh no, but more often by past male partners. As in, before they realized they were bi or lesbian they were with men who abused them. That's what the study found. So the woman you're addressing is more likely to have experienced DV at the hands of a man than by her current female partner. 60% of lesbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:45 PM
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As an overweight woman who was never into the nightlife: These seem like reasonable and rational preferences with solid compatibility reasons backing them up. I hope you find/found her and y'all are fit and happy together 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:45 PM
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Different people have different things they want out of a relationship. Some couples like being each other's best friend, being there for each other emotionally, and holding each other through their most vulnerable moments. Others, apparently, ... Don't? But like, do you, man. I certainly won't be here telling you how your relationship should or shouldn't be. Personally I'm perfectly happy being my husband's best friend and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:18 PM
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To the outside world or to their partner? If the latter, how do you know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:12 PM
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I don't think that's what she was trying to imply. My take is that there are many different responses to bullying: Masking Self isolation Not masking and finding those people who will accept you Etc? (Probably) And those things can of course be used in various combinations in various situations. Every person's mileage will vary, of course, but I don't think the other commenter was trying to imply that men/boys aren't bullied for their autism, I think they were trying to say people are going to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:17 PM
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This tracks with my own personal experience as well, but then, men don't tend to know what "female social rules" I'm breaking, and if they do they tend to like it , whereas women of course do tend to know exactly where I just messed up and they do not like that. (over enthusiasm and/or appearing "ditsy" is where my mask tends to slip, men tend to find that cute, women tend to find me a flirt or a pick-me) The exception is women who are foreign in some way, be that a cross-country move, "Oh you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:43 PM
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He was describing what his particular friend found works for him, not making a blanket prescription for all autistic people to go to clubs. Everyone has to figure out their own particular strengths/interests, not copy the strengths/interests of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:11 PM
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I want to share with you a comedic song that my husband played for me with the intent to have a loving, connecting moment. You, I suppose, will hear it and assume he was insulting me, but for me it was incredibly romantic. We both snuggled really tight and had a lovely night talking about how much we love and appreciate each other. Acknowledging that we didn't have to choose each other, but we continue to do so day after day, even knowing that someone "better" could be out there but neither of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:13 PM
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And you're saying they enjoyed this and are gleeful to have their murderous rapists baby? Because otherwise you're just telling me that women experience horrible suffering and trauma during war, and I already knew that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:23 PM
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But I need to know how you define it. Especially since one can acknowledge that something is "better" and still not wish to change their original choice. You're moving the goal post by adding this extra bit about "wishing you married someone else" when that was previously not in the conversation. There are men richer than my husband Fitter Smarter Funnier Probably kinder Probably slightly better morals or something Maybe even with more hobbies or interests in common than we have Does that make t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:21 PM
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Then what are you complaining about? You're not looking for a LTR, apparently, so why are you complaining about how women screen for a position you're not even interested in? Go be the walking red flags that you feel will get you laid 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:45 PM
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Define "better".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:04 AM
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Ohh noo, and you let me down. Maybe next time, champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:00 AM
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Also, this is the internet. There is no public support here nor social enforcement, and nobody can see your pretty face faking indignation, so they won't empathize with you. Thank you for wasting the vast majority of your comment complaining about a minor quirk of writing style, complete with your armchair phycologist opinion on why I wrote that way 🙄 I'm sure it was far easier and more emotionally satisfying than focusing on the actual point I was making. This is PPD, I essentially assume I'm g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:59 AM
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Why do you think they don't love him?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:19 AM
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I arguably have it worse as a woman since I have some masculine features. If she says she has it worse now, as a woman, what does that mean she's saying about if she were a man? Easier or harder? I have faith in you that you can put these puzzle pieces together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:00 AM
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Okay, I started skimming, realized it just went on and on and on, and skipped to the bottom, just full disclosure, but: And as soon as those men fell, their women's panties fell with them. Those women got their husbands and son killed, their friends killed, maimed, raped, their entire way of life and town destroyed, then got captured and raped by the people responsible for their trauma, pain, suffer, and mourning ... And you have the nerve to call their panties wet and them "disloyal". ... I jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:22 AM
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You hit the nail on the head, my friend. The gross reaction she had isn't universal, as you said, it's often tied to culture and the ideas she was raised to believe are "the way" to be manly 🙄 OP, keep looking for the woman who will hold you while you cry, she is out there, and you deserve to have someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:44 PM
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Is paying a compliment the only way for one to be kind? You can't think of any other ways? Just the one? Personally I think there are a bunch of ways to be kind that aren't paying a compliment. Why would you think that women who don't compliment men aren't kind to them in other, less "attention" (certain kinds of attention) grabbing ways? Edit: Do you compliment other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:28 PM
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Let me make sure I understand what you're saying, correct me where I'm wrong: You're saying that you acknowledge that women put themselves in a potentially dangerous position when they compliment men. But that you think women should be willing to endure this dangerous position In order to make men feel better? I guess? Because I'm not sure what other reason women "should" put themselves in this danger for. You'll have to fill this part in for me if that isn't your reason. But regardless of the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:27 PM
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women are not talking bout its always sunny, they are using that term to describe men more broadly, as if that were all they want. No, they're literally quoting from Always Sunny, it's where the term comes from. Women do in fact watch that show, and women who do not watch that show sometimes hear terms from the show, often explained by someone who does watch. How broadly an individual woman applies the concept of "bangmaid seeking" to the general male population is entirely up to her own bias an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:29 AM
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Oh wow, I was not expecting this response 😂 I'm glad I was able to help! Yes, it's the missing love, care, and "teammate" mentality, the meat and potatoes are missing from that relationship. That's the problem. Wanting sex and a teammate in keeping up with life is perfectly normal, healthy, and good 👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:16 AM
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Bro ... That show is a fucking masterpiece, it's a beautiful showcase of the fucked up realms of the human mind. It's quoted often for that purpose, by all genders. Ever hear of "The Implication"? 🤌🏼 And a hilarious show, to boot. Your apparent lack of media literacy doesn't mean the rest of us can't tell reality from fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:13 AM
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Oh yeah, I'm not saying it's common, just like true gold diggers exist, true bangmaid seekers exist, but I don't think either is common... Thank goodness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:01 AM
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So, if you know where the term originates (It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia) you know that the man in question was quite literally looking for a woman, who will function as his maid, a maid he can bang. As in, there is no love there. Love is not the point. Maid he can bang is the point. That's what the term means, that there is no love there, this is not your loving partner that you lovingly have sex with and then she cooks you dinner because you make her feel safe and seen and she cleans up af…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:21 PM
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They didn't discount your lived experience tho... They just said they aren't mad at your conclusion and don't expect anyone else to be. You should be taking that as a win, since women not being mad at your choice is supposedly what you're hoping for. ... Unless it's not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:11 PM
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Why do you need a study for every little detail of life? Because this is a debate subreddit, it's in the name. Debates tend to rely on the best data available to inform them. That does not mean this person needs a study for every little detail of their life, just for this debate. Can you not go off of common sense and anecdotal experiences What is "common sense" to you may be absolute foolishness to me, and the plural of anecdote is not "evidence". Some of the most autistic screwed up people I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:45 PM
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Oh that framing is my own, lol, don't blame him. I'm just putting stories and things he's said about himself together to paint a picture. But as far as practicing what we preach, we were both coming out of religion by the time we had sex. We weren't ready to take Pascal's Wager yet and say we didn't believe, but religion was no longer a factor in either of our decision making or values at that point, and there was definitely no preaching. I agree that there's far too much shame and belittlement …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:57 PM
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Have you ever given much thought to how patriarchy intersects with the trauma of boyhood, and how these roles that men are being locked into are eerily similar to the ones patriarchy forces on women? Oh absolutely! The patriarchy and dehumanizing ideals of how men "should be" fucks up otherwise perfectly awesome dudes and makes them hate and doubt themselves, and when women buy into those ideals as well they double down on the pain men experience. Pretty much every dude I know has had to unlearn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:24 PM
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Do you recommend the same for women seeking men? To skip the men who have had negative experiences with women, or to use those men for fun but not commit to a man who has had bad relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:41 PM
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I married a "loser" myself, took that man's virginity and everything. Love of my life, my best friend, no regrets. Of course, he isn't a "loser" and never was, because lack of romantic success and not having your life all the way figured out does not make one a loser. But according to these guys he was one. And a nice guy (genuinely) at that! He had no money (but did have potential), and he was even overweight... I'm sitting here realizing I married exactly the kind of guy who these RP dudes say…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 04:38 PM
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That's funny cuz my experience is the opposite 😂 The women (self included) shifted the men left in many a relationship I've seen. Hell I did and I didn't even start out as a leftie, that's just where we both ended up after years of "debate" (conversation, really) The women I know are also more political than the dudes, though the guys are still solidly interested and involved, so I would never say "men aren't truly political and will quickly adopt ideology of female partners if they deem them ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:38 PM
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She isn't talking about debating abortion, she's talking about the decision a couple might have to make together. If one person is pregnant and does not wish to be and wants an abortion, and the other person is morally opposed to an abortion and would view that as the murder of his child then they are at quite the impasse. Better to be with someone who respects your bodily autonomy for one person, and for the other better to be with someone who values a fetus to the same extent they do. She's sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:25 PM
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I have tremendous emotional baggage from the years decades of never having a rela I'm genuinely sad for you that your experience has been this way, I wish there was more I could say than that. I feel like you've been failed many times in your life by people who should have had your back (I've seen you comment many times and for a long time, and that's the impression that I get) I know you've given up, and I understand that. I'd never try to change your mind because you know your life and your pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:36 PM
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☝🏻 Correction, there are significantly more men who have been diagnosed ... With a condition that until recently was only looked for in males while women struggled under the radar. No shit there are "significantly more autistic men" when women have been ignored for decades 🙄 Also, I think autistic women will disagree with you regarding their troubles in dating.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/24 04:11 PM
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Decent men also keep their emotional baggage stowed under the seat out of her sight. This behavior isn't "decent", it's sad. Either this decent dude doesn't have a partner worth staying with or he does and doesn't know it. Either way, I'm sad for him. My husband is decent, and one of the things that bring us closer is his ability to open up about his emotional baggage and the ways it affects him, or how it's shaped him. Same for my friends, their husbands are open and vulnerable (we don't share …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:37 PM
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Can you explain in more detail?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:52 AM
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How common? Can I get the source you use? I heard it was pretty rare, but I'm open to new evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:42 AM
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What benefit does the audience get from watching you shame a strange woman for what may or may not be her past experience, one she has learned from (either from watching others or from personal experience ) and is actively making choices that go against the thing you're shaming her for. What does the audience benefit from watching this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:02 PM
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That's a really excellent example! As someone who has given birth and had it be the best and worst day of my life at the same time, and for my husband as well, I think you picked the right one. On the one hand it was traumatic for both of us (emergency C-section, baby and I both nearly died, he thought he was going to lose us both and he was completely alone going through it (middle of the night, we didn't live near any support, and everything happened so fast) On the other hand, our daughter li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:11 PM
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Male narcissists completely disregard the emotions and feelings of others while being painfully unaware of their own meanwhile women with BPD do indeed think that reality is completely made by their emotions Why did you split these two mental illnesses this way? There are female narcissists, do they not completely disregard the emotions and feelings of others while being painfully unaware of their own? There are men with BPD, do they not think that reality is completely made by their emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:58 PM
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Is gravity a feeling? I thought the discussion was on feelings, not physics. Why do some dudes in this thread keep bringing up gravity and math when we're discussing feelings and interpersonal perceptions? And women have a hard time with that. And men (some men) have a hard time staying on topic 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:41 PM
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This is all women? Most women? A woman you heard about once? Because I've certainly had bad dreams I had to process, but I've never taken them as reality. I'd say most people, men and women, are able to process their bad dreams simply as they are without extrapolating anything from them into reality. Is this dream-into-reality phenomenon exclusive to women or are men capable of this bit of irrationality? Do men have their own separate irrationalities they engage in?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:09 PM
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So just the shame, then? No actual point to make? What good does it do to shame someone for something they've already learned from? What do they gain for being shamed for something they're already ashamed of? Is behavior modification your goal or something more akin to propping yourself up?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:52 AM
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I'm gonna pipe up as a woman who doesn't always require an orgasm but does like the domination and what-not: Yeah, it's true, some nights I'm just not too interested in cumming, but I really want to be bananas level intimate with my husband, and having his hands/body all over me in that way is just ... Its own bliss. Don't worry tho, there are also nights of back to back orgasms for me 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:37 PM
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Let's say you're right... What is the point of your comment? What did it add to the discussion of what women need to enjoy sex? Was the point just to take a moment out of your day to shame a woman you don't know for a past she may or may not have experienced and can't change either way? Such a worthy use of all of our time, truly. Thank you for that. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:28 PM
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Not all women can tolerate soap between the lips, for those women it's recommended to only use water. It's possible your lady friend knew her bits and what they can tolerate, and soap isn't it 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:18 PM
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So, there's actually a submissive kink called "findom" or financial domination... It's a real thing, it's a kink. Not all submissives, obviously, not all submissive men, but it is a thing that exists. I don't know that it exists to an extent that makes it worth bringing up in this thread... But it does exist, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 04:38 PM
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That depends, is Hot Topic, nail polish, and fishnets true to him ? Is that who he is and where he feels himself? If so he should absolutely stick to it and find the mate who finds his joy and his authentic self attractive. Also, you can work out and get in shape to make those fishnets look even hotter so... Both? I might tell him both 😂 But if a dude is into wearing fish nets and nail polish I don't see the point in being with a partner who will want him to suppress that side of himself forever…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 04:26 PM
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Same reason... Okay, but what is the reason? What is innately unmasculine about those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 11:56 PM
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I'd like to think that on the internet other groups are thought of more as a concept, whereas in real life we're interacting with flesh and blood people in our own city/town/neighborhood where they feel more like "us" and less like "them". So, headspace, rather than hypocrisy, is what I hope makes a lot of the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:48 PM
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My husband has PTSD that gets triggered in certain public spaces, so I'm pretty used to being the one managing his feelings of safety, making sure he can see the exits, letting him sit where he's most comfortable, steering him through/around/away from crowds, etc. So yeah, if some dude came up to me and that ended up triggering my husband's PTSD and he couldn't help me I'd just deal with the dude myself (like I do when I'm alone) and then ask my husband how he's doing and if he feels like he can…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:48 PM
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The OP isn't talking about sensitive disagreements in public, the commenter didn't either, so why are you adding this extra emotional/humiliation/airing of dirty laundry element to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:04 PM
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I believe they were implying that The View is trashy and low IQ, not talking about what specific network they're on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:01 AM
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Is this a good enough reason to get rid of no fault divorce in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:34 PM
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Biological or social, a lot of women are, though. Men can underestimate how hot a thick ass and thighs is to a decent amount of women. Very yummy, very grabable (consensually, of course) Don't skip leg day, bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:40 PM
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What do the good actions of one man who I do know have to say about the mystery actions of a man I don't know? My husband is awesome, my guy friends are amazing, I've had wonderful men as co-workers and have met many kind men out and about ... random strangers are still random strangers. The bear is at least out there because this is it's home, it probably also wants as little to do with me as I do with it, I can also add the type of bear, time of year, etc to my equation at a moment's glance an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:06 PM
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Didn't a man design and ask the question? Do you have reason to believe this man was a feminist acting for a feminist agenda rather than the more basic answer of him being a content creator fishing for rage bait and getting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:43 PM
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Nice appeal to authority. Nobel prize winners are capable of being wrong, of choosing to believe a comforting or cultural belief against evidence, and even of lying about their beliefs for social reasons. Their opinions on a field outside their own study, one with such cultural significance at that, has no weight on your discussion. And the person you're arguing with doesn't speak for all women and her opinions don't damn us all either 😂 what a silly conclusion to draw. "You disagree with me in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:17 AM
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I agree with this so much! I wish men would raise their standards, be up front about them, and hold them steady. If she's offended by your standards then she isn't for you anyway, bro! Find your right fit! My best friends both went to art school and they paint together on the weekends and sometimes they do a booth at like a farmers market and they sell their paintings together. It's cute AF. I hope you find the right one, dude!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:47 AM
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I think reaching a level of frustration that our emotional brains want to react to with increased volume is part of romantic relationships, sure, because life is messy and sometimes we don't see each other on our best days. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to communicate without resorting to yelling, try to control our anger in the moment, sincerely apologize if we fail to control our tempers, etc. Bad emotional days are always part of every romantic relationship, but how we treat each oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:38 AM
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Yes, that is a case of discrimination against men. One that should be fought against by anyone interested in equality. The presence of discrimination against men in one area doesn't dismiss or disprove the discrimination of women in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:19 PM
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Oddly? Aren't women more susceptible to STDS because of the way our anatomy works? It would follow logically that the gender more susceptible to a thing would have higher rates of that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:09 PM
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The study about domestic violence included domestic and sexual violence committed by a previous partner, which could (and sometimes did) include former partners who were male. Also if memory serves it didn't even have to be a previous partner who did the violence, just that the person answering the survey had experienced sexual violence ever would be enough. So, more women than men have experienced domestic and sexual violence, that's what the study shows. Which isn't exactly ground breaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:53 PM
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He didn't say "banned from" he said "discriminated against". Those are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:39 PM
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Huh, crazy, all the women I know who are "career women" also have families, including kids. ... Except the one couple who are both child free by choice, but that dude still wouldn't have kids no matter what his wife did or didn't do for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:37 PM
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Rating ones self a 10 when you know you're "not" for whatever reason is a way of fighting against that entire rating scale as a concept and making it invalid on purpose. It's a way of refusing to play the game and you're taking it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:20 PM
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There's actually a loneliness epidemic for young people in general. All genders. If I remember correctly women are only a few percentage points behind men when it comes to loneliness. I'm not sure why I never hear about that though and in fact the male loneliness problem is brought up as if it's a stand alone problem that women of the same age bracket aren't facing. ... To the point that people actually think young women are doing just fine, so those lonely young women don't even get the benefit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:16 PM
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WHERE? Who is doing the push back? Do you hang out in feminist spaces? I've seen terfs and man haters argued with and told they aren't welcome by other feminists many times, but I also hang out in feminist spaces and am around to see it. Hell I've done it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:09 PM
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Feminists have also fought both for the draft to be ended altogether and also for women to be added to the draft if it "can't" be ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:04 PM
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When you phrase the question the way you did you phrase it as if the child is sitting on a table staring at its parents, instead of inside the body of one parent threatening its body and life while the other parent stands to the side with their body and health entirely unaffected. The right being discussed isn't "The right to kill one's child" the right is "The right to access a medical procedure that can protect ones body from harm". Men do not tend to carry a fetus inside their uterus. The ute…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:01 PM
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Why would it? I'm not attracted to the looks or personality of the husbands of my friends, so what? They're great guys, good husbands, they make my friends happy. I'm sure my husband isn't their personal cup of tea either, but he's loved and welcomed in our friend group cuz he's a good dude and he's fun to be around. The vetting is things like keeping assholes out and general cultural/social fit. Not variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:44 AM
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Are you on any of the haircare subs? There are all kinds of haircare subs for every hair type. Good luck getting your growth on!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:20 PM
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1 and 2 dropped out of the running pretty quickly, it's just not a lifestyle I'm interested in living, but more power to them. 3 is actually what I'm the most familiar with and would get along with the best. (Nerdy woman married to a nerdy guy who both heavily suspect they're autistic here, lol) As long as he's cool talking to me about his anime, not asking me to watch them (I've tried. It's not for me) and he doesn't pressure me into doing speed runs, but will instead allow me to take my time i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:55 PM
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Let's not be so open-minded that our brain falls out. In 99% of the cases man is the pursuer of sex Let's assume the hyperbole is accurate, so what? Men are allowed to not be in the mood, to be uncomfortable with the person who's asking, to have any of 1000 reasons to not want to have sex and to be uncomfortable with assumed consent. it would be autistic and weird People both autistic and not can appreciate consent and the need for it, thank you very much. if we started asking them if they reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:13 AM
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What does this have to do with gender roles? What biology is being denied by a man crying or caring that his own child is sick? Did biology not give him tears and emotions and also give him that child and a reason to be invested in that child's health and well being?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:27 PM
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I have 2 bi friends who are into to masculine men and feminine women. I don't know where they got the idea this was so rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:14 PM
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In Red Pill lore there is essentially people who take the red pill and wake up, and everyone else. That's what she's referring to. There are no "blue pill" anyone, technically, because people who are not red pill (and then black pill got added on) are "no pill" , they don't know or care about the pills. "Blue pill" is just how "Red pill" describes everyone else. The absence of being "Red Pill" is what makes one "Blue Pill".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:39 PM
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Is that what you want though? To have to mask in your own home and in your own relationship for the rest of your life? My husband and I are both neurodivergent and we can let our freak flags fly at home knowing our quirks will be accepted and loved by the other. I wouldn't want to live any other way, personally. I wouldn't want to be worrying about giving him an ick or whatever, or looking foolish. Obviously you do you, and you'll have to find a strategy that works for you... I'd just keep in mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 10:11 PM
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I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but *Phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:01 PM
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That's what I'm seeing, my two closest friends have amazing husbands who act in more of a support role for their wives. Their paychecks aren't much, but their support is clutch. They're all thriving and happy and it works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:01 PM
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What does this have to do with her leaving because of the sexist culture ? Why is the 12yr old nerd male? Is that important?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:52 PM
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Actually it's because she doesn't understand social cues and subtle language or body language. Autistic people (of both genders) are vulnerable to abuse for this reason. Add in that women are smaller and more likely to be socialized to be agreeable, and then a dash of being raised being told their boundaries are silly and dramatic because NT people don't understand ND needs and thus invalidate them... (that last bit happens to autistic dudes as well of course) And you have a perfect storm of a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:37 AM
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Yep! My husband hit his 40s this year and finally decided to take care of his face and beard better. Facial soap instead of bar soap, beard shampoo instead of bar soap, facial moisturizer, and a beard oil. ... Damn near instant results in the face and his beard smells incredible. He was so happy with his results that he went and got himself a little beard care kit ☺️ Tiny changes made a huge difference. ... He wishes he'd have started sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:06 PM
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In the OP: A girl who was groomed by an adult should be "held accountable" instead of treated like a victim. A boy who was groomed by an adult should be treated as a victim, instead of congratulated (which I agree with, but the girl should be treated like a victim and not shamed) A woman who was not breaking the law was escorted out of and banned from a sporting event, but not charged...because again, she had broken no laws. She was given the full consequences the venue had at their disposal tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:10 PM
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Is it your opinion that the crimes of one gender are balanced by the good actions of other members of that gender? Why do those politicians and police keep those other men in check? For their own safety? They do live in the same area, after all. As do the women they may or may not view as their property. Since I'm spit-balling how seemingly noble actions can in fact be selfish and dehumanizing of the person being "protected" ... And since we know politicians and police tend to... let's say not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:47 PM
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Why are women so, so, so much more likely to do volunteer work that is caring for others? Soup kitchens, homeless shelters, taking care of elderly relatives, even her husband's elderly relatives, child raising, the endless list of home care that women happily will trot out to explain how they care for their husbands... I've known many, many, many women who volunteer. I've known I think 1 dude. I've seen articles where mens help lines and shelters had to be shut down because the all or mostly fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:31 PM
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If being a fukboi doesn't matter, being a player doesn't matter, and being a narc doesn't matter, then how can you keep making the claim that personality matters? Seems to me when my friends have gone for fukboi's it's been with full awareness that this is just a dude where they're using each other for sex. The convenience and mutual understanding that sex is all that's wanted is the draw. It's fun, light-hearted, unattached, and perfect for the current needs of that friend. For people who have …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:26 PM
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Wait, I don't get it, why is her weekend ruined?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:54 AM
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I dunno, you seemed confident enough in your assessment of strangers both at the bar and on the internet to declare them autistic and make sweeping generalizations of autistic women based on your assumptions. I'm simply asking if you have anything to back yourself and your diagnosis and your behavioral analysis of these strangers up or if you're talking out of your ass. How would you know someone in real life is 100% for sure autistic? Even less likely, how would you know someone online is? And …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:38 PM
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More men than women are autistic (3:1-2:1), so it's easier for women to find a male partner with the same trait Until fairly recently it was believed by the medical community that only boys could be autistic. They weren't even looking at girls. It was also believed that autism can be "grown out of", essentially, so when I say "only boys" I mean even adult men got dropped for a while. I don't think we yet have a firm grasp on how much of the population is autistic, or what the gender divide looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:40 PM
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Just curious, is this something you've observed in diagnosed autistic women? Or perhaps something you've heard discussed by diagnosed autistic women? Because this comment is coming off as you assuming certain women who exhibit certain behaviors are autistic and then assuming those same women are complaining about their experiences of being autistic women online. It feels very made up in your head, and I'm not seeing where your evidence is coming from, is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:30 PM
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they are very likely to be dismissive of me or attribute my quirks with some inherent yet controllable character flaw. Yup, as a child I had my "controllable character flaws" damn near beaten out of me, and not just by family... Because it was absolutely assumed to be controllable. Still is, it's just less socially acceptable to beat things out of other adults so I'm reprimanded and/or avoided. Now as an adult I'm learning tools to actually manage my "controllable character flaws"! Finally. Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:26 PM
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Why can't it be some of both? Something like this: Women are forced to learn to mask at a higher rate and younger age. This is a necessity in order to move through the world safely (without constant harassment). This is both good and bad as it takes a toll on their mental health, it makes them have to re-learn who they even are, it makes it hard to find authentic friends and romantic partners because it's both hard to drop the mask and almost impossible to know when that's safe/appropriate. BUT,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:39 PM
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The topic was also the ability to mask, which women are pressured into for our own safety (physical, emotional, social). For good and for bad (I don't think my brother even knows how to mask and that's to his detriment) The commenter very accurately described my personal situation growing up. Being alone leaves you vulnerable, and fellow girls didn't like or understand me. But I DID grow up with brothers and understood male social interactions well enough so I usually hung out with dudes. Those …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:25 PM
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I genuinely hope you have a nice time. Maybe it'll do you some good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:54 AM
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Why? The woman in the original story said she was out of that phase of life. He says it's because the D was better when she was younger, he's saying she is lying about her reasons. I'm saying I had the exact same experience of growing up and growing out of a wild phase, but it was with the same man. It was just maturity. The fact that it's I'm with the same guy is the only reason my experience backs hers up. ... Is that why you guys are trying to dismiss it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:24 PM
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Of course it's not the exact same scenario, because I was with the same dude, but I still matured past my "fuck in the park" phase anyway even though the dick and the man and the sex were the same.... In fact all 3 had improved with experience. And that was my point. My point was that the "phase" you assumed to be dick dependent could also be maturity and life phase dependent, which is what the woman in your story also claimed. I'm saying she just grew up, like I did. I'm saying growing up is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:20 PM
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I am 38. Trans men absolutely date "normal" women, and even cis women. I have seen this by observing it in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:15 PM
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I was doing crazy stuff pre-22, sex in parks, sex in a u-haul, lmao, road head... But yeah, by 22-23 I was telling the guy I was with (who was asking to do that kind of stuff) that I wasn't in that phase of my life anymore. That it has been fun and exciting and new when I was younger but now all I can think about is the handful of times I got caught and at 22 I felt too grown and responsible to be doing that shit and taking those risks. Now, was the guy I was with disappointed? Sure ... But sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:34 PM
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Have you ever sought out a video from women explaining this phenomenon to hear it in their own words and explaining their own agenda? If not, you should. Imo, the explanations from women who do this in their own words also explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:28 PM
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Sounds like she made a resolution to work on improving her boundaries and failed herself. It happens. Humans are often weak and we like what we're used to, even if what we're used to isn't good for us. I hope she learned to hold her frame, eventually 🫤
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:18 PM
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Interesting! Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:02 AM
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Oh so thin air, as I thought. Thanks for clearing it up 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:54 AM
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I don't have to. The attitude is pretty universal among women like this. Cute defense of your strawman, but a strawman none the less.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:40 AM
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I don't understand... You think trans people don't date?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:38 AM
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Re-read the comment. Catch the use of the word "only". Many women like some amount of emotional whatever. That doesn't mean that's ALL they enjoy about sex, however. Having a higher need for an emotional connection of some kind makes sense to me though, women have a higher need for physical safety and a higher risk of getting pregnant. And I know I for one feel safer with men that I do know than with men that I don't. In fact, the more I know they care for me the safer I feel. It makes sense tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:27 AM
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People like to pop into the comments being confidently incorrect all the time... (Not you, I'm just not wasting my time on him) I don't give half a fuck that it's from Elle, it illustrates the point well enough. Hair removal has been around for forever!... Culturally and for different reasons. Some cultures loved all hair, some loved CERTAIN hair, some shaved it all off. But it has never been some world wide, from the dawn of civilization "chasing the femininity" BS. Unless the gentleman has a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:21 AM
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So, your confident statement had me curious, and so far I haven't been able to find many studies on this that weren't in some way paywalled 🫤 Except this one and I'll grant you that it's a small sample size, but as it's the only non-paywalled source a quick Google search got me, AND because the findings were so large in contrast to your initial statement, I thought it'd still be fun to post. ...Our results, based on over 675 participants, showed a positive effect for women’s attractiveness ratin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:58 AM
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She isn't saying it should be a bell curve, she is refuting the claim of someone else who said that when men approach it's on a bell curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:59 PM
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Oh so you put words in her mouth without asking any clarifying questions. Awesome. Thanks for letting us witness the circle-jerk you guys made out of nothing but air and your own bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:27 PM
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Are these quotes from the commenter herself or thin air? I don't see the commenter making those claims, I only saw her say that a relationship has to be worth losing the peace of not being in a relationship for a woman to choose it. I saw no list regarding what that means to this particular woman or women in general, and no mention of "not a real man" or "being intimidated by her". Was there a second conversation that I missed?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:25 PM
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There isn't a perfect answer to this question, but expanding ones social circles means expanding ones dating pool. Even if you don't date your friends maybe they know someone you'd get along with. So the more people you know, the more people who might have someone they can introduce you to. The more open and honest you can be with your friends the better job they can do recommending someone, plus of course having support and love and openness from your friends is important in it's own right. Bey…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:22 PM
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Okay, let's talk about passing trans people then... Someone who transitioned at 18, FtM, who is now in their late 20s, who passes, why would this person be experiencing society any different than a cis man? Why would he not be in a relationship? If he's not in a relationship why wouldn't he have experience competing with other men to get one? ... I don't understand. Do you think all people who transition then become celibate or something? Do you know that passing straight trans dudes exist and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:08 PM
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Bro not everyone can just move and not everyone can or is suited to living in/paying for living in a city. People also have family, friends, obligations... "Just move" is very much easier said than done. Moves cost money, jobs are required... Some people have other disabilities that complicate all of the above... "Just move" 🙄 Yes, lets ALL "just move" away from our problems. So simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:02 PM
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No, but making them and/or reaching out to the ones you have will. It took me YEARS of nagging to get my husband to start texting his best friend from highschool more often... Now they text most days and share memes and talk about their lives (I don't know what they say, just that they do). He's happier and more balanced, it's nice to see 😊 Now he's working on building a stronger friendship with the rest of our friends, because he can see the value and the payoff. And our other guy friends are d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:58 PM
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People are supportive in a support subreddit? That's awesome 😊 We need more support subreddits, maybe someone should make a cis dude support sub for posting selfies and talking about life and shit. I bet it would be beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:45 PM
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Sure, there are certain physical aspects that will never be "typical" of their gender... But you don't think they can experience the same things socially as other people of their gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:38 PM
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Trans women (and trans men, but I'm refuting the rosey picture you painted for trans women, so...) also get that lovely increased violence and murder rate. So fun. Slay queen 👑 (literally)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:35 PM
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Not all of us do. Some of us sadly shake our heads and think they're too young to make that decision. That they're too young to understand the full history and weight of that decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:38 AM
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What if the red pill and the posts within the red pill are written in misogynistic ways to question yourself why you defend the female position so much So, your position is that the red pill posts aren't written in misogynistic ways because they're misogynists, but because each poster has decided to use language coded that way as a tactic in order to prompt that "Hey, that sounds misogynistic" reaction in each other, so that y'all can then have reason to question your knee-jerk rejection of miso…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 12:27 AM
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As with women, beauty standards that are already annoying are often exacerbated by race 🫤 I'm sure you're already aware, but for those that aren't, people of color but especially black people are held to harsher standards that are harder to achieve because of their own natural hair and how it grows, and that butts up against beauty standards that are largely driven by white people. No one should be shocked in the least that black men deal with racism and its effects on top of already annoying be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:30 PM
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You quoted the other commenter and said that men wanting women to be agreeable is "literally the same thing". I was taking you at your word that you meant exactly what you said. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 04:52 PM
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You're saying that getting married when you're as young and inexperienced as possible, forgoing your own education and earning potential, in order to be a bangmaid for your spouse for the rest of your life because you're financially fucked once you've popped out a few kids and have been out of the job market for a few years ... Is the same as wanting men to "be more agreeable to be around" ? In what ways are men asked to be agreeable in ways comparable to my first paragraph? When I see women tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:42 PM
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starting with not having to sign up for Selective Service to vote Feminists have actually fought both to end the draft altogether and also to add women to the draft. Women being added to the draft was struck down by conservatives. Take your issue here up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:35 PM
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Why does it happen, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:30 PM
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Pigs blood, the most romantic of bloods. Ladies, don't accept a man who won't go out and slaughter a pig daily in order to write you a note in the digital age! You deserve the respect of the old ways! I trust your father has a goat set aside for the wedding? Pig blood is only for courting, of course, goat blood from the herd of her father is for the wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:42 AM
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Everyone deserves to be vulnerable with their partner, and that is absolutely an obtainable relationship. You'll probably date some duds before you find the right one, but that's life and time teaches most people maturity, so imo your odds go up the further out of highschool you get. I've held my husband while he cried, I've stroked his hair and gotten him tissues and listened to him talk it out. I'm grateful that he feels comfortable and safe doing that with me. I wouldn't have him any other wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:31 AM
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Meh, young people of all genders are waiting for marriage and then so far they seem to be doing better at being married (lower divorce rate, more involved fathers, more equal workload, etc) Don't let those losers tell you when you expire, you probably never will... I mean, MAYBE after menopause? But I doubt it ... 80yr olds are getting into new relationships, ffs. Nursing homes are having STD outbreaks. You're fine, lol. Oh and don't let the stupid algorithm trick you into thinking more men thin…
/r/ExRedPill26/03/24 06:52 PM
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There are so many thoughtful replies in this thread that explain why humans are not always reliable narrators of their own experiences, why clarifying questions are often necessary, and how some people cannot handle even that tiny challenge to their inner doomer narrative... And then there's you as a shining example 😂 Oh and RP is also a conspiracy against men, so add that to your list 💜
/r/ExRedPill26/03/24 02:42 PM
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I wish I could see an article about this so I didn't just have your word that this happened, and/or that you're putting the blame in the right place. Not that I don't believe you, it would just be nice to have more solid information than something a random commenter remembers seeing on social media 🫤
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:50 AM
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which is likely why men file only 20% of divorces. Can I see the source for this, please? That percentage has gone down from the last time someone mentioned it, so I'm curious if there's new data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:39 AM
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Women initiate divorce about 80% of the time in college educated couples. Can I see the source for this, please? That percentage has gone up from the last time someone mentioned it, so I'm curious if there's new data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:38 AM
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All parents are imperfect. They're describing a parent who actively causes harm. As someone who was raised by a father who caused me harm, I was begging my mom to divorce him and keep us safe. Unfortunately she decided to keep us all under his control and living in fear until the last kid moved out when she finally divorced him. ... And honestly my dad wasn't even "that" bad, he wasn't addicted to anything and he paid the bills, the beatings were formalized as "discipline" instead of just random…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:47 PM
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that doesn’t include their face specifically to do it behind her man’s back. Are you sure it's not their privacy and family they're trying to protect rather than going behind their partners back? If so, how are you sure? Do they just go ahead and say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:05 AM
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Many of these women are married. If their partner is cool with it then it's not an issue that they're married, it's just a business. Do you have reason to believe these women are hiding their OnlyFans or continuing with them despite the objections of their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:40 PM
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Yeah that's pretty agreed upon 😂 smelling neutral or nice vs pretty and stinky? ... Easy choice. Not to mention one is an indication of effort and respect, and taking care of your grooming can give you some appearance points on top of that show of effort so ... Never a bad move to work on grooming (if you don't already) Plus, lots of things can make someone attractive. Maybe his butt isn't the juiciest, but you can get lost in those eyes 🥰 (or whatever) when you like someone's personality you te…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 10:23 PM
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When I think of being my best self I think of the best self that I can reasonably attain without sacrificing my mental health or whatever. So am I gonna work out 5 days a week? No, but I can probably do 2-3 and an active chore day, and that's my best self. Some weeks it's more like 1-2, and other weeks I can't bring myself to work out at all, and that's okay. I'm not working towards being the best self someone else can be, I'm balancing my own personal strengths and weaknesses and needs. I'm wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:02 AM
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Tell me you've never been angrily stalked to your car by the guy making small talk at the grocery store because you told him you're married while turning him down but you don't wear a ring so he doesn't believe you, without telling me. More than once. I've been followed and harassed by Mr. Small Talk At The Grocery Store more than once. 4 times, actually, and no, obviously it wasn't literally at a grocery store every time. But it was one of the times. My female friends all have multiple stories …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 12:50 PM
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yet if a drunk dude were to this he'd be going to jail Going to jail for what? For sexual assault? Almost like sexual assault is still sexual assault even if our society sucks at equal enforcement. Why not advocate for protecting men from sexual assault rather than claim that "because no one gives a shit when some drunk bitch at a bar who keeps touching a dude inappropriately" that groping somehow isn't sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:58 AM
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I'mma let you in on a secret: people practice something called "defensive driving" all the damned time. It increases their chances of noticing when another driver isn't being safe, among other hazards, and lets people adjust accordingly. But guys on this sub love to bring up driving as an analogy for why women are behaving irrationally when we take measures to protect our safety .... Sir, do you not wear your seatbelt? Come to a full stop at a stop sign? Look both ways before pulling out onto th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:50 AM
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Huh? There are lots of people on this planet, billions of women alone, so the highly desirable people are likely to be snatched up by one of the many partners available to them. I didn't see that as them saying anything close to all women are wonderful, to me it just came off as them being realistic about the numbers 🤷🏼‍♀️ Beautiful and wonderful people can have life get in the way, of course, but at the same time in the real world when something looks too good to be true it often is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:10 AM
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Oh yeah those are fun, too, choking is a little scary for me, I light it done gently 😂 but knowing he COULD hurt me if he wanted to, and knowing that he never would ... Hot.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/24 10:07 PM
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Lol, well I certainly don't think so It just feels good 🤷🏼‍♀️ Thanks for saying that tho, usually I hear the opposite.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/24 08:15 PM
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I have had a guy push aggressive things on me without asking and it genuinely traumatized me, but he had experiences with girls who enjoyed it so he acted like I was making a big deal out of the situation. I'm so sorry that happened to you! ... That dude straight up sounds like an abuser who is trying to play ignorant/dominant to hide it 🤢 The creep of abusers into BDSM freaks me the hell out, I'm so scared for innocent and/or gullible people to meet the wrong person with the "right" words. I ho…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/24 11:42 PM
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Why would you want to deal with a man who enjoys hitting women tho? He doesn't enjoy "hitting women", he would enjoy hitting anyone who enjoys being hit. He enjoys it because I enjoy it, you should see how quickly he drops all "domliness" if he thinks he actually (accidentally!) hurt me 😂 he turns into a teddy bear, full of cuddles and soothing. He likes causing me to feel sensations that I enjoy, and thuddy pain feels like a deep tissue massage to me. If thuddy pain felt scary or painful in a b…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/24 06:47 PM
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As a woman who enjoys impact play (essentially being hit by my partner for fun, for anyone who was wondering), yeah this guy sounds terrifying!! No, not all women like that, yes, you should ask first and not assume, yes, you should believe her if she says she's not into it or not into the exact thing you are doing, and news flash: guys are allowed to not enjoy hitting their partner?? It doesn't take away a single drop of masculinity if you don't enjoy hitting and/or abusing your partner, Jesus. …
/r/ExRedPill07/03/24 05:21 PM
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What do you mean? I wear my seatbelt, check my mirrors, signal my intent, stop fully at stop signs, keep an eye on my fellow travelers in case they pull anything stupid that I'll need to avoid, etc Hell if the weather is too bad or I'm too tired I may even choose to stay home because yes, driving is also dangerous, and responsible adults plan accordingly. Just like if I were dating I might pick a public place, tell a friend where I'll be, be wary of changes of venue, etc. Like, what even is this…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:25 AM
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so there is no real point for chad to settle down unless he wants kids. Some people just genuinely like their partner and enjoy their company. Some people are monogamous by choice or nature of values. There are reasons to commit to one person besides kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:32 PM
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So handsome, charismatic men, high status men are always a bad bet, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:30 PM
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Bro, it was tounge-in-cheek, if you're tired of bad faith arguments then I'm tired of every moment of levity being met with these dramatic replies. Your reply consisted of gender essentialism to defend why slutty men get treated one way and slutty women get treated another. If you'd like to back off your gender essentialism and/or give deeper reasoning then I'm all ears, my friend. "Of course they're treated differently, they're different genders, why wouldn't different genders be treated differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 08:20 PM
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Yes, I do think they only mean "believe enough to investigate" because I was in feminist circles before it got spun into "believe all women without question no matter what they say" by the manosphere and by the women who do actually want the luxury of never being questioned 😂. So I know the actual timeline. Thanks for checking though, it's important to ask clarifying questions before we just assume, so thank you 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 08:15 PM
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I love sex but to consider it a hobby is a reprobate mind that leads to moral deterioration and eventually pedophillia That is the slipperiest slippery slope fallacy I have seen, I think 😂 you get the prize 🏆 What if I make sex with my own husband a hobby, does that mean that I'm on the way to "a reprobate mind that leads to moral deterioration and eventually pedophillia" ? When does it cross the line? Surely when one has committed an actual crime they're already at the bottom of the slope, so w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 08:11 PM
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If you think a woman becomes a cum receptacle when having sex then, no, please don't marry her. She deserves better. I have no issues if you're looking for a virgin or a low body count, but if that's the way you describe a woman after she's had sex with someone you don't deserve a woman at all, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:42 PM
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The mystery is finding out what YOU like. You are a unique person with their own tastes, and sex is a ginormous smorgasbord of options. Each new adult is their own mystery, and they each have a journey of exploration to make. Some people just touch the edge of the forest, find a nice little nook in the sun, and stay there with a trusted partner, others go further in and bring different people on different days. Sometimes that couple in the nook get bored and go explore together. It's the new adu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:37 PM
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There's no other way to treat the sexuality of men and women differently than by having the judgements on their use of their sexuality be opposite? Lmao Okay. I bet if we brainstorm we could come up with a way to treat men and women in different ways that were more appropriate. Such as by ignoring their sexual choices all together as long as it's between consenting adults, and focusing on how we can support their actual bodily differences. Seems more practical in the long run to me, this sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:31 PM
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Shouldn’t I believe all women and take them seriously though? "Believe women enough to actually investigate their rape claims" (which is what that phrase means, btw) Is not the same as, "Interpret everything a woman says as being perfectly literal and refuse to acknowledge that humor, hyperbole, or that casual and imperfect speech exists" To be clear. Carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:17 PM
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In what ways you anticipate your life being influenced by strangers who have different standards for sexual encounters than you do? What necessitates the war? Do you consider them to also be at war with you? (meaning they think about you at all and have intentions against people like you with actual purpose to disrupt your life, not just existing while being "different") Or is this a one sided war?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:13 PM
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I'm non-confrontational, so my go-to if someone has conversations with me that I don't enjoy or that are uncomfortable is I just make it as boring as possible for them without being straight-up rude. If the conversation doesn't give them the attention or entertainment they were going for they usually go find someone else to word-vomit on. I do a lot of bare minimum nodding and "uh-huh" and "huh." (As in, "Huh, that's crazy", but with less effort/interest) They then think I'm boring for the rest …
/r/ExRedPill03/03/24 05:26 PM
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Looks change and fade, I'd rather have a personality that I'm not only willing, but happy and excited, to put up with for the rest of my life. Personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:29 AM
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At some point you have to choose to trust or not. Trust yourself to pick and vet a good partner, and trust your partner to be who they say they are. There are little ways you can poke and test, watch and learn, - are they generally honest? even when it doesn't benefit them? etc, but if my husband wanted to cheat on me and hide it I have no illusions that he wouldn't be able to pull it off. He's a smart man, he can be meticulous. I can't choose to trust him or choose to live in constant fear, alw…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/24 02:07 AM
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I was 20 and he was 22, we were both raised religiously and had been taught that sex before marriage was wrong, and while we did NOT wait for marriage, lol, we did wait long enough to find something serious. Which was long enough to meet each other.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/24 06:53 PM
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I'm not talking about women who move from husband to husband. I'm talking about couples, two entire people with their own lives and struggles in the relationship, who decide that they've grown into different people, people who are no longer compatible. Who then acknowledges that reality and instead of settling for an acceptable level of misery decide to split up. Who then possibly goes on to meet another person, someone who fits the new them. And to be clear, while women have the added complicat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:48 PM
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Yeah man, hormones change, for both partners, and the kids grow up and aren't so exhausting, but the damage done to the relationship during the bad years sometimes isn't worth fixing. So, you're a woman, you're 42, pregnancy hormones and effects have leveled out to their new normal, (hahaha, that's a lie, hello perimenopause!) but you're getting your time back cuz the kids are growing up... And you and/or your partner realize that for whatever reason, whatever shit happened or however you guys g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:23 AM
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I have zero problem with men scratching that itch while watching porn. I think people should try to be ethical in their porn choices, and practice moderation, but 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:54 AM
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I think you need some time understanding male sexuality Hey bro, it was just a question, lol. I've watched porn, my husband has watched porn, sometimes we even watch it together. Porn is fun sometimes. Solo time is also fun sometimes. If I had a wife who was totally traditional I would certainly make the effort HOWEVER What boundaries of yours would she be able to break to scratch an itch? ... And is it a 1-1 trade off of rules for each other? Or does she get a list of rules in exchange for you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:49 AM
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While I think I get where she was coming from, I only have that insight because I hang in feminist/female centered spaces and I know the lingo. I agree that in this sub it was a bad argument to make because it doesn't apply well, for one, and the "deeper meaning", if I read it I read it right, isn't likely to be picked up on by this crowd, lol (No offense, if you don't know the lingo, you don't know the lingo, that isn't a judgement) But all that aside: I just re-read your other comment and I se…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:34 AM
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God I cant read this trash Then don't. Save me some time. As if I would notice or care if you hadn't replied 🙄 (Don't get me wrong tho, this is gonna be fun for me) If you're happily married you shouldn't be bringing your ass onto this sub Why? It's a sub about dating and relationships. I have dated. I am in a long term and happy relationship. We even have a child together. Why would I not bring my experience to a place full of young people who don't have the perspective of time and distance fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:21 AM
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2) it does so happen to be true that there's a correlation with ball throwing ability and understanding how things work What things? All things? Is this a metric we should be using for more intelligence based discrimination? Would it apply to men as well? You didn't answer that part last time. So, "Anyone who can't throw a ball shouldn't vote", is that your new position or are we married to the sexism? Do people get time to practice throwing a ball before the all-important voting rights test? Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:52 AM
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Wow... That was a hell of a read. Not all women like kinky and/or group sex, period, and the fact that you think that so many women must because porn actresses (yes, paid sex workers, literal professionals, with the practice and knowledge to do those acts safely, with a partner who is also a professional, in front of witnesses, with a camera and a contact and not a random guy who saw it in a porno and wants to try out HIS fantasy on MY nerve endings!) Ahem... So as I was saying, not all women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:44 AM
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People are social creatures, social creatures like to be social with others, and yes, get their attention and give attention back. This takes many forms, for some it's social interaction/attention in revolving around a hobby, club, sport, etc, .. this is just normal, boring, human interaction shit. Social media made it easier to connect, but it's all just social animals being social. (YMMV, some animals are not very social and that is okay too. I don't like being judged for my anti-social tenden…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:26 AM
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They think women should be primarily speaking to other women because if a man is nearby we might accidentally get "tingles", or many enjoy the company (ahem, I'm sorry, attention) of someone with a penis who isn't our partner, and that's the same as cheating, right? ... I wish I was joking or exaggerating. The insecurities run rampant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:21 AM
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Would you be willing to give up porn for a woman who respects your "sane male boundaries"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:16 AM
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but fucking Chads who won't commit to you doesn't give unrealistic standards Why do you assume all women who are anti-porn are pro-casual sex? There are at LEAST 2 different hive minds we can subscribe to, why assume you're addressing the same Mind at all times?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:14 AM
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According to your logic, is it fair to expect women to not get upset when their partner does such things with them? People DO do this, safely, consensually, with much, much communication before, during and after. It's a roleplay, a fantasy, it feels dangerous, but you've both discussed what's going to happen and the "active" partner is careful and considerate. No one is upset after because they both wanted to play. I say this because what YOU are describing, without consent, without communicatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:08 AM
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I'm sorry... This woman you're replying to has a track record of the above? You found this in her comment history? What does "Being boss bitches" or "Having male friends" have to do with the porn habits of men? I'm confused. Kinda sounds like you're projecting all the "sins" of both the men and women of the last 50 yrs onto just women, actually, just THIS woman... I was gonna try and guess at why but honestly I can't fathom why you CARE that a woman you don't know might have a preference you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:01 AM
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What exactly does the ability to throw a specific ball for a specific sport have to do with the ability to understand how politics affects one's life and vote in ones best interests? Is being good at baseball or other physical activity a requirement for men to be able to understand how the world works as well? Or just women? If your comment is any indication of the average male brain then it'd be the perfect example of why men shouldn't be allowed to vote, and at least my sexist and narrow opini…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:47 AM
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Yes, some women, just like some men, can be insecure and dislike competition. Especially when they're young and immature. Shocking, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:37 AM
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🤷🏼‍♀️ How you choose to perceive your journey through life is your business. Some people don't meet their person til they're both middle age and they just accept that as the path in life they needed to take to get to their person. If you'd rather view it as getting scraps and being settled for then I won't try and stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:55 AM
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I'm almost 40, met him almost 20 yrs ago when I was 19. I promise people haven't changed much since then. I've had people of all ages in my life and watched the same progression over and over, most people grow up eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 03:31 AM
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But saying that you are a feminist means that you you identify with the same people that brought you #freethenipple #metoo #believeallwomen #killallmen. That's what I'm saying though, is that no, I don't have to embrace EVERY idea that ever came out of any group of women who called themselves "feminist". That term doesn't belong to them, and they don't determine what is current feminist theory. Just like I can be a proud atheist without wanting to ban all religions. Just like Men's Rights can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:58 AM
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It's the classic cult-ish tactic of having perfectly good and sensible advice to lure people in before they reveal the deeper crazy. Its frustrating. I love the concept of "frame"! It's a really useful method of explaining having healthy boundaries. As you say though .. RP takes it too far, into unhealthy "boundaries".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:49 AM
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As you said, it probably depends on who is asking, but also that's an incredibly small cross section of the male population, and at an age/stage/location where casual hookups are not entirely uncommon. I'd like to think that my married friends, for instance, wouldn't have any trouble "keeping it in their pants", or any man with sense regarding a woman who treats him badly, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:46 AM
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*I'm just gonna copy the reply I gave the other guy, it applies equally well to you both: More like, real life will counteract childish fantasy and most people will mature to a point that they understand that reality is pretty nice, actually. I'm not married to a tall, rich, mega handsome dude, but I am married to an amazing partner, my actual best friend of 20 years, and I wake up excited to see him every single day... If that isn't enough for you then I don't know what else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:33 AM
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More like, real life will counteract childish fantasy and most people will mature to a point that they understand that reality is pretty nice, actually. I'm not married to a tall, rich, mega handsome dude, but I am married to an amazing partner, my actual best friend of 20 years, and I wake up excited to see him every single day... If that isn't enough for you then I don't know what else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:32 AM
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I can see where you'd get the perception that a woman who proclaims herself a feminist must fringe, a lot of groups get that perception, atheists, men's rights supporters, etc. But I find that in all of those groups there are also perfectly normal people who want to be able to use a term that is shorthand for their beliefs/worldview/values/what-have-you and not allow society and fringe crazies to take that label away from them. Awareness that normal people adopt the label would be the goal of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:43 PM
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Huh, personally when my (now) husband showed that he was willing to stand up for himself, including "against" me what I thought wasn't about his ability to protect me, but that it was nice to hang with someone who can give as good as he gets and who won't lose himself trying to impress or keep me, as other dudes had in the past. He's just himself, he knows his worth and his boundaries and is comfortable expressing them in a respectful but firm way. So hot. I'm sure millage will vary, I'm just sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:02 PM
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almost like men represent the human experience .... Men represent the HUMAN experience? Lmao, are women not human? Are our experiences not human experiences? Less than human, maybe? It takes both halves to represent the whole, my dude. Personally I find people to be a pretty evenly mixed bag, but even if my experience with my own gender and bias towards it led me to believe women were more empathetic and selfless I just cannot fathom typing a sentence like, "Almost like women represent the human…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:45 AM
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This dude doesn't know that men can be BOTH 😂 They can be soft, open, and vulnerable AND dominant if that's what both parties are into. They're not mutually exclusive, and in fact, I wouldn't be comfortable submitting to a man who wouldn't be soft, open, and vulnerable, because how would I trust that dude?? No, not all women are into dominant men, and not all women are submissive themselves, but let me tell you, for a relationship with a dominant man, that openness and vulnerability is what make…
/r/ExRedPill27/02/24 06:11 PM
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So many things can affect your lived/witnessed experience, though, including the area you live in! Some cities/towns are superficial as a culture in very specific ways, and people who don't fit the mold for that area would struggle, and maybe even get the idea that this beauty standard is universal rather than local. That may be why you "only hear about this mystical 5'2 man online from women on forums like this." Because those women live somewhere different than you, and run in different social…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:48 PM
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all women want only the hottest, tallest, richest men My husband is none of these things, he wasn't when we were dating and he still isn't 17 yrs later. I'm still attracted tho, and we "play" regularly. Actually I know many women in happy marriages with men who fit none of your criteria, including a tall woman married to a short dude, and she's also the bread winner by far. You're young, people your age are often more superficial, imo, so yeah, it probably looks like it'll stay that way forever.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:40 PM
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There's a dude further down this thread essentially saying that exact thing. Telling a random woman he's arguing with that if she asks any dude for sex she'll get it 🙄 That mentality is so frustrating and unproductive, and very dehumanizing for men, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:29 PM
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You've invoked that debunked OkCupid study, and in doing so you've summoned this asshole with my counter article: Maybe eventually you guys will let me retire this link
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:21 PM
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That's a perfectly reasonable explanation! It has nothing to do with the other person's worth, or shame or whatever. You wanna learn everything together, that's okay! That's valid! Another person might prefer a more experienced partner to lead them through something new, and that's okay too. My husband and I lost our virginity to each other, and yeah, it was nice getting to explore with someone who also had everything to explore, it's even cooler that we ended up staying together so it's this ex…
/r/ExRedPill27/02/24 04:56 PM
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The things I find most attractive about him don't activate in him unless we're connected. It's a look, more than HIS looks, the dude has been struggling with his weight big time for well over a decade, but he's got a good face, and yes, there are definitely parts of his body that I've always appreciated (that booty for instance) but when we're connected and he gives me certain looks, nothing else about his body matters. So... I really don't know how to answer that 😂 I knew the man I'm attracted …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:51 PM
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Yep, the most common thing average people say about my MGTOW is along the lines of: "But WHEN will they go their own way? PLEASE go your own way, any time, bro, go live your best life!" Women aren't even afforded the luxury of opting out in peace 🤦🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:33 PM
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Hey at least it'd be equal and semi merit based rather than being assigned to a second class at birth. So you're down then? Changing from "control all women" to "control the people (men and women) we've deemed incompetent to make their own reproductive choices"? Like the commenter above mentioned, it'd even be easier. Like if you're going to go down this authoritarian route at least be logical in your methods, in who you oppress and why. It's not that much to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:46 AM
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Personally I'm team No One Gets Used As Cannon Fodder, but sure, if there's fodder to be had it should be "equal opportunity".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:41 AM
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She'll feel safe with someone she likes, and I'm not in control of that. I'm not some safe commodity who's there for a woman as a fall back option, waiting around. Go be with someone you are excited by, don't tell me I have accepted a woman begrudgingly having me because the man she actually wants isn't there. You misunderstood my meaning, I'll give you an example: I've been married to my husband for 17 years, we've had ups and downs, we've had times he made me feel emotionally safe and times wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:16 AM
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Step 1: Make an army Step 2: Literally bar women from joining the army for generations Step 3: Use the fact that women are not in the army they're barred from as proof that women need to be controlled. Brilliant. Tell me, what happens if women aren't controlled? Do they run rampant killing people in their sleep or something? What's being stopped by this control? What is your evidence that the control is needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:41 PM
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But it doesnt change the.cold hard truth that it's because she was more attracted to him, happier with him. You're making assumptions. You assume she was happier because she did "the things", but she could easily have been insecure and had low self esteem that led her to believe she wouldn't be worthy of love without doing "the things", or she could have thought she'd enjoy it then found out she didn't, you just don't know unless you ask. up until she meets somebody she actually likes and then h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 03:38 AM
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Where did treating anyone like shit come into this conversation? Obviously if someone is actually treating you badly the "why" doesn't matter much, get out. But you're making some major leaps from the original topic. or making you work for something they shared freely with someone else I've never seen this not be about sex acts so I'm gonna assume that's where your head is with this part ... And brother that's exactly when "why" matters. Is she "making you work for it" because she's manipulative…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:35 PM
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Bro you're still pretty young, you were focusing on a career and didn't have time or energy for dating, that's super understandable. I wouldn't count yourself out just because of your age and current virgin status. Do you have a good friend group? Good emotional support, empathetic, and fun, with similar hobbies that gets you out of the house? That's usually the route women go when they're unable or unwilling to settle down with a partner, and it seems to work out well for them. I hope you find …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:42 PM
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Nah, I've seen dudes talk both about how romcoms lie to men and give them false hope and also how romcoms lie to women and give them unreasonable expectations. I've seen the occasional feminist critique of romcoms, for sure, but even as someone who hangs in women centered spaces I see "Romcoms lie and mess up people's perspective on dating" from men more often than women. Personally, ymmv. Apparently one thing both sides of the gender/pill theory agree on is that romcoms are unserious fluff and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:12 PM
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So far I've only seen women in this thread acknowledging the fact that some women will choose not to put their body at such risk for sex, not that they're literally asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:55 PM
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Hey now, thinking of women like people instead of vicious harpies and succubi doesn't (... Checks notes...) make him feel better. So it can't be right, right?
/r/ExRedPill20/02/24 05:15 PM
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I've been married to my husband for 17 yrs, I've lost count of the number of times I've held that man while he ugly cried. I've always been so proud of him for being able to be that open in that moment. If anything it brings us closer. I've seen both kinds of couples, the ones where the men can be vulnerable and the ones where they can't, the ones where the guys can't be open and vulnerable and themselves don't tend to last, and no one looks like they're having any fun. Personally I wouldn't set…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/24 01:40 AM
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Where would you say it stems from, in your own words? (without using the word "ick")
/r/ExRedPill19/02/24 06:02 PM
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That is the level of perfection I am being held up to in order for the relationship to continue. That's the level of perfection you personally are willing to tolerate as an expectation from a partner. Not everyone is like you. I certainly don't hold my husband to such a standard and he doesn't hold me to that standard either, thank god. I'm happy it works for you and brings you joy, though If you and your partner want to consider any human failing to be a purposeful punishment then more power to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:00 PM
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You are confusing the topics of discussion. I am now talking about indifference and hate. Not about the definition of witholding. I already adressed the definition of witholding in other comments in this thread. I was interested in the topic at hand and trying to understand how you were connecting those points, why not make your own post if you'd rather discuss something other than the posted topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:56 PM
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If I don't quit what, then what? What am I supposed to quit and what's gonna happen if I don't? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:55 PM
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Damn, I can't wait to tell my husband he's literally punishing me anytime he's too tired or forgets to do his chores... I HAD been treating him like a human being with needs and failings, but now I know it's purposeful and adversarial and I can respond accordingly, neat! I'm sure this new attitude in our relationship will do great things for us. /s This is honestly the level of perfection you'd like to be held to in order to receive affection and continued partnership? Are you really so on top o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:52 PM
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It might be a worse feeling on the part of the ignored person, but the subject at hand is "withholding" and the blame that comes with that word. So while indifference may feel worse to the person being ignored, the person doing the ignoring still isn't being active in creating this feeling in the other person, they're just existing while being desired. The person who is feeling indifferent is still not "withholding" because withholding would be an active choice. No choice is being made, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:34 PM
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I met my husband online in 2005-ish, when I was 19, my boss (who was in her late 40s, and not nerdy at all) met two husbands online around that same time. Online dating wasn't as open and casual as it is now, sure, but to compare it to having genital herpes is pretty overblown from my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:18 AM
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The implication is that some men put women on a pedestal or treat women like a puzzle instead of just a regular human. It's not that those men are mistreating anyone at all, they just aren't interacting authentically because of their misperceptions of women and probably a decent amount of insecurity in themselves. That lack of authenticity turns some women off... Unfortunately imo it turns off exactly the kind of emotionally intelligent/experienced person that would likely make a good partner. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:47 PM
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I mean... How old are the people in question? The experience/knowledge/maturity gap closes and/or becomes a non-issue early into adulthood, but if your friend is pretty young then I can see them being concerned and keeping an eye on the situation. "Throwing a fit" seems off, makes me think they're either kinda controlling or your friend is pretty young and they have a point. Either way, that whole "women should be a year younger" thing is weird AF, tho. From what I understand women mature faster…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:42 PM
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As a woman I've always heard it, seen it, and said it as, "Don't put women on a pedestal, don't treat us like a game interaction that you just need good dice rolls on, talk to us as if we're just another person with a normal life and wants and needs." So, the opposite of asking for women to be treated special or different. I hope that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:34 PM
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No. Unless they've been coronated, in which case, yes, those women are in fact queens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:26 PM
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There are lots of different women who say lots of different things Why do you assume the same women who ask to be treated as humans would refuse to treat men as humans? Seems to me that the people who are asking for women to not be put on a special pedestal might also see men for the vulnerable human beings they are as well, and love them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:22 PM
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This is so spot on, the guy I was going out with before my husband was like the second guy... With hints of the first guy. It was not going well for him 😂 My husband has a quiet confidence, and I was drawn to him immediately. He's just himself, he's so thoroughly authentic and unbothered by other people's opinions, but not in a cocky or showy way. He was the first guy I dated who treated me like a normal human who was on the same level as him, not above, not below, just two people having a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:15 PM
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Same, my husband is secure enough in his masculinity to be a strong feminist and an open and vulnerable partner. It's beautiful 🥲 All my friends and their partners and different variations on the same theme.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:00 AM
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Stop engaging in this content for at least a couple weeks, hang out in some women-positive spaces, engage with some women who share mutual interests. See what that does for your mental health and worldview ❤️ I used to hang out in RP spaces a lot a few years ago and it fucked me up mentality too, because it was awful thinking men who think that way exist in the real world and you can't always tell, especially if it's just a random coworker or something. But that's just because it was all I was s…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/24 10:37 PM
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Sorry, in this subreddit we like actual answers and good faith debate. You can't just say shit and be taken at your word. I know that's frustrating for you.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/24 10:32 PM
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Lmao, you have no answer to my rebuttal so you pivot and whine and insult. Thanks for proving everything I've said about RP dudes so thoroughly, it was amusing AF. You have zero actual answers, zero interest in an honest good faith debate, and the second you feel backed into a corner the insults come out 😂 I won't be reading your other reply, I've had enough of the emotional gish galloping and constant pivoting that I said at the beginning was all you had to offer. It was really sweet of you to …
/r/ExRedPill11/02/24 09:31 PM
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I've explained why her comment was valid and accurate. Address my challenge or move on. I'm not reading past your first sentence because you've yet to answer my challenge to your initial point.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/24 10:42 PM
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Yes, exactly, thank you! You gave a perfect example of the emotional gish galloping and constant pivoting! I mean, it's just textbook! I applaud the effort, my friend. They aren't helping their cause by talking like that in spaces that are supposed to be anti red pill. Oh wow, we're still focusing on ONE comment... I even explained why it was accurate 😂 Are there any OTHER comments you have objections to or just one single comment that you'll now focus on until the end of time? A man looking for…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/24 10:40 PM
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Ever? Lmao people ask questions in that sub and get taken seriously all the time. ONE man didn't get ENOUGH serious answers (he admits he did get two!) and came here to complain. A sub being called "ask_" doesn't mean every member there is duty bound to answer any and all questions with seriousness. And one question being answered flippantly doesn't equal the entire sub refusing to take all men seriously 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:43 PM
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I'm gonna pop in a push back on calling the girl scouts/boy scouts thing silly, if you think it was frivolous then you don't know the history of the Boy Scouts. Being the highest rank in Boy Scouts (Eagle Scout, if memory serves) carried real world value, and I mean VALUE, I mean high-powered boys-club job connections level of value. The fight about Boy Scouts had nothing to do with hurting little girls feelings, it was about gatekeeping grown and educated and competent women out of elite spaces…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:39 PM
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Yep, I can think of 2 or 3 more male-centered subs along those lines and others that are basically just the male version of a woman sub (in a friendly way) They all seem to be doing just fine. But god forbid a man ask a question on askwomen and not receive a sufficient amount of serious answers 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:18 PM
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Is that all they say about women? Just, "women have less upper body strength?" Pretty sure they say a lot more than that about women and you've decided to pick out one uninteresting, common knowledge fact, and then asked if it was derogatory 🙄 What I'd call derogatory is more like, "If your woman sees a slightly richer, more attractive dude she'll throw your entire marriage away chasing that hypergamy game, because all women are like that. But that's just me tho
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 06:33 PM
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Where have you legitimately seen the vast majority of men who believe in red pill decision making say something like women are subhuman/inhuman? First of all, have you heard of hyperbole? Secondly, have you ever as a fully grown adult, the married parent of a child, with a job that pays the bills, been told that because of what's in your pants you'll never be more than "the oldest teenager in the house"? Because I have. Red Pill men have told me that. And said it about other women, and many thin…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 06:26 PM
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Were you repulsive or were they simply uninterested? There are lots and lots of people I'm not interested in that I certainly wouldn't say I'm repulsed by, I'm sure you could say the same. Imo everyone has their area, their niche, some niches have bigger dating pools in them, but there are lots of pools. My husband and I were both nerdy (back when it was an insult) autistic (undiagnosed and struggling) introverts who had no success with dating and relationships our entire teen years and into ear…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 06:12 PM
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They're against red and black pill but can't logically refute it Bro, you try making logical arguments against emotional gish galloping and constant pivots (I hang out in the Purple Pill Debate sub... It's exhausting) Saying nonsense is faster and easier than refuting nonsense, this is well known by anyone who is a debate enthusiast. To them its inherently evil Yes, lying to men to keep them scared and disconnected from half the population would be inherently evil, you are correct. the men who b…
/r/ExRedPill09/02/24 05:56 PM
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It's an expression ... It's not that deep. He doesn't mean it literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:53 AM
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I was told many times by many adults as a teenage girl that girls who make the first move are "fast", show poor morals, and are "stumbling blocks" to their brothers in Christ (and all men, actually) That kind of stuff stays deep inside, even after one doesn't believe in any of that anymore, the fear of being perceived as a whore cuts deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:21 AM
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Oh no! You got stuck in a loop, unable to move away from your distraction because it's all you have left in an argument you can't win. I'm sorry, friend, I tried to pull you out of your loop, I guess only you have the power to free you. And no, I will not at any point be falling for your bait. You can discuss the original topic or admit you have nothing else to add to this discussion, but I will not be engaging in your mindless pivot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:45 PM
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Lmao, bro I might not have numbers but it's been public knowledge that women have been on the front lines in Ukraine since this shit STARTED. And literally what does your Ukraine nonsense have to do with the topic ??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:46 AM
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If you reread my comment you will see I said it can only happen in complete safety, My point was that the vast majority of people in this subreddit who claim to want submission are talking about something they do not understand and do not know how to engage in safely. Comments that give them any kind of cover of, "Look, even women agree that women are naturally submissive" are harmful, even if you didn't intend them that way. My point is a lot men want something without providing the conditions …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:07 PM
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Oh bro, I wasn't defending her, I read the other comments, I saw, lol There was a major lack of empathy, understanding, and a lack of looking for common ground in the whole conversation. I will defend THAT misunderstanding, though, the one you just quoted... You misunderstood her point (fair, valid, it happens) but you weren't careful enough in your word choices in your rebuttal, you said he "can't get himself together without help" (I'm paraphrasing, but close enough), she took that not as, "he…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:02 PM
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I'm sorry, but submission felt like a relief to you. Not all, or even most, women will feel "relief", first of all, and submitting to the wrong person is downright dangerous. Submission also means different things to different people, there are different degrees, and entire categories of ones life that one may never choose to turn over. Be careful advocating submission in a room full of people who have zero concept of what a healthy power exchange looks like. This is how abusive relationships ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:29 PM
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And in fact yes, you do have to be sexist to be dominating or provide, because the balance is that the woman has to be submissive and caretaking This is absolutely hilarious... Tell me you know nothing about dominance or submission without telling me 😂 the BDSM community is rolling in laughter at comments like this... Actually no they are not, they're pretty upset that BSDM terms are being used to promote gender roles and sexism. Bring dominant doesn't make you more than and being submissive doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:16 PM
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... They said that men should be freed from their expected gender roles. Where is the misogyny or lowering of standards? I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:32 PM
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Dude you're watching immature people have relationships and learning all the wrong lessons from it. Let's give you the full benefit of the doubt and say you're accurately reporting how your friend's girlfriends treat them, okay, cool... Your friends aren't in good relationships, then. It happens. They're young, they're learning what boundaries are reasonable and what healthy relationships look like, and sometimes people make mistakes along the way (by being an asshole and/or by tolerating asshol…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:31 AM
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Exactly, it's a balancing act and everyone gets to pick what tips the scales for them. Go find your fit, dude, don't worry about what women who are not your fit would pick. I'm sure there's a woman out there who will both value your physical appearance and the work you put into it and also not be a completely shallow person. Unironically. People have different hobbies and shit, some hobbies come with hot bods, and some people like hot bods on themselves and their partner 🤷🏼‍♀️ nothing about that…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/24 07:27 AM
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I don't know how much self awareness is needed to know that being around someone with volatile emotions is unpredictable and scary and being around someone who regulates their emotions is more predictable and feels safe. I didn't set up tests for him or anything, I just noticed times when I expected him to blow up because it's what my dad or my brothers would have done, and he didn't, and I felt how relieved that made me, especially when the explosion just kept not coming. Or when he would sit m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:06 AM
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I'm really happy to hear that your relationship with joy isn't because of trauma! I apologize, my comment must have come across as assuming. I was just excited to tell someone who apparently has an interest in that topic where I'd personally seen someone not be able to experience joy and why, and didn't give a second thought that there might be an implication that you were the same. No matter how you experience it, I hope your life has lots of joy 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:50 AM
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Sticking with your pivot, eh? What a shame, good faith debate is so much more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:37 PM
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I just read through this whole conversation going off the rails and I think this reply is the start, so that's where I'm gonna chime in. This comment is not to blame you for the derailing! You are not at fault. It's just a miscommunication, imo. I read her comment as her sayings, "If what you need in order to recover from your shitty day is to play video games instead of talking it out then that is fine, and I accept that and will not bother you. I would just like to know the reason you're being…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:54 PM
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Regarding suppression of joy, that's actually something my husband has struggled with. His narcissistic mother essentially punished him for his joy and hated the things he took joy in (because she hated HIM and it showed in every choice she made). I think that's one of the things that drew him to me, honestly, because I express my joy openly and with enthusiasm 😂 and I take joy in the things that bring him joy, and it's like he got vicarious joy through me... Which is fucking heartbreaking. He s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:09 PM
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Is she looking for weakness or signs of instability, tho? Certainly some women are doing the former, some people suck, that isn't news. Is the woman who is checking for the latter setting up the test or watching life play out in the random ways that it does and paying attention to his reaction? These are important things to pay attention to as a dude, imo, because anyone with sense will vet their partner via watching how they react to the world. Toxic people will set you up and then punish you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:58 PM
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Are all men in trenches of Ukraine right now?? I was WONDERING where my husband got off too ... No seriously, what in the non-sequitur was this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:50 PM
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Personal anecdote time: My dad bottled his emotions til they overflowed into anger, yelling, insults, and minor violence. This was terrifying, I never knew what the straw would be that would break the camel's back or when it was coming. When I started looking for my "person" as a young adult one of the things that made me have the most comfort with my now-husband was that he let his emotions out in reasonable, timely (before they overflowed), controlled, but still open and vulnerable ways. Seein…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:41 PM
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Being in despair, being sad, being frustrated abd being angry are all normal responses to failure. Absolutely! And people have a right to be sad and down, but those failures and bad feelings can take a toll on one's mental health and outlook. A therapist can both let them vent their hurt feelings in a safe environment and also possibly unpack and fix some root problems that may have been holding them back. For instance past trauma from family or other childhood trauma can really fuck a person up…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:02 PM
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You are absolutely right about entire industries being built around making women insecure about their looks to sell them a product. Men, if y'all wanna know why women are so protective of other women's self image, go look at what the millennial women dealt with in the early 2000's when we were hitting teenagerdom and early adulthood... Go look at the celebrities they used to tell us were "disgustingly fat". Yeah no shit we rebelled and we tell each other and our daughters that they are beautiful…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:33 PM
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Not saying sociopaths, love-bombing and controlling behavior doesn't exist - just that you'd be naive to just take 1 side's word for it. Does it matter tho? Maybe he's lying or exaggerating, who cares? If he is lying and I'm kind to him what changes in his life or mine? If he's telling the truth and a little kindness from an internet stranger can give him space to vent and get his feelings out and then receive some validation then I'm gonna err on the side of that. It takes all kinds of people t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:52 PM
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Oh my poor dude, my heart breaks for you!! That's awful! I hope you're able to get some therapy and learn to trust again with the right person. I'd hate to think that awful bitch was able to steal your personality and twist it and cheat you out of happiness FOREVER. I know you didn't ask for my advice, but I'd truly look into how to move past her, she is one person, one fucked up individual, she is not everyone. There are lots of good people out there who will love and support your true self. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:41 PM
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That can absolutely also be the case, I didn't say it wasn't. I just have more experience with hurt people than privileged people when it comes to relationships so that's what I focus on. I'm sure someone else, you maybe, is better at understanding and speaking to another side of the coin 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:31 PM
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BOTH genders maintain society, men just get paid and recognized for it more often. Do you feel the same way about MGTOW? Women do all kinds of unpaid, unseen labor that keeps the world turning, how DARE men want to go their own way and find happiness outside of caring for a woman?? /s Both genders uphold society in their own ways, they both have intrinsic value to society. That doesn't mean anyone owes anyone else a relationship to prove it. We owe each other respect and dignity and attempting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:29 PM
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Please remember that you and everyone you've mentioned are all very young. Young people do stupid, thoughtless shit sometimes, things they grow to regret. Don't judge all women based off of the few that hurt you, they're just some teenage girls who will probably grow up and learn from their past mistakes and who in adulthood may be completely different people from who they were when they hurt you. I don't say that so you'll forgive them for what they did to you, I say if so you'll forgive WOMEN …
/r/ExRedPill24/01/24 02:59 PM
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Wow, I'm so sorry that happened to you! I hope you've been able to heal and move past what was done to you 🫤 And you bring up a great additional point, which is that there are some fucked up social disorders out there, and that anyone, man or woman, can exhibit them or be manipulated by them. People who complain about "ignoring women's agency" often ignore the fact that people with social disorders exist; it's not all just normal ass people running around. They also ignore that damaged and easy …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:15 PM
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... Do you think needing half the population to exist is the same as needing a member of that group in your personal life?? Because that's what women mean when they say they don't need men, they don't mean they don't need men to exist, they mean they don't want to date or marry one. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:58 PM
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Sure! So first of all we're both autistic mofos with bad childhood trauma, we helped each other heal a lot before shit went sideways, we were each other's firsts in so very many ways, including things like true acceptance and the ability to be open and vulnerable. So we were already pretty fucking close before things got messed up. It all started when the poor dude made the major sacrifice of moving us (him, me, newborn baby) in with his parents and his sister for a few years. His mom and his si…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:03 AM
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while the women seemingly come to brag about being married to hot guys and look down on the men here. I can understand how it comes off that way, but personally (and the vibe I've gotten from a decent amount of non-angsty blue pill women) I'm here because there seems to be a massive lack of hope and perspective, and because hurt people sometimes can't see through their hurt feelings, and I'd like to nudge people in a more balanced and nuanced direction if I can. ... And also because the debates …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:23 PM
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I actually saw a great documentary a few years ago about a women's support group that was all about training women for heavy manual labor jobs ( I wanna say in construction, but again, it was a few years ago) But they had a whole bootcamp type training for strength and skills so that the women would be able to keep up right off the bat at their new jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:16 PM
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And that since the patriarchy has gone, respect for men and family has gone too? Hi, I'm a major feminist, married 17yrs, stay-at-home-mom, who is pretty much obsessed with my best friend/husband... AMA 😂 Seriously tho, I'm friends with many a married feminist who adore and support their husbands and who absolutely dote on their families... They simply ask that their husbands treat them as full equals and with love and respect and that their husbands pull their own weight (which they do, btw, th…
/r/ExRedPill21/01/24 05:43 PM
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I just think non western women have better morals when it comes to cheating Why? What evidence do you have that non-western women are so incredibly different? Is it ALL non-western women? Are all non-western women the same? How will you know you have the GOOD non-western woman and not a gold digger looking for Western money? People are a mixed bag. You'll find all kinds in all places. "Traditional" women still exist in the West, and non-cheaters, too! Lol
/r/ExRedPill21/01/24 05:17 PM
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Jesus Christ you guys are concerned about this! It's a minor quibble over a word choice, and I take y'all at your word that I misread the intent. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:20 PM
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Lmao 3 people agree with you so I'll go with the consensus, I'm not too stressed about it 😂 sorry some light ribbing over a word choice got under your skin so hard! I'm not too worried that my incredibly happy husband of 17 yrs is suddenly going to discard me because of a difference in the reading of a Reddit comment, thanks for your concern tho!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:19 PM
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Dancing around the "semantics" of one person choosing to make the other miserable for decades, refusing to work on themselves, and him being perfectly content to be the only happy party in that marriage, yet her being added to your little statistic anyway. Sure. Most men don’t have the options/high enough SMV to leave. What does his value have to do with anything? In the example I used (my parents marriage) my dad wasn't looking to leave anyway. He also had a girlfriend within a year and my mom …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 07:08 PM
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If it's complaining it's This "it" refers to a woman who is your hypothetical wife. I hope you and your human female shaped robot are very happy together 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:22 PM
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Last time I heard that stat it was 70%, did it go up? Have you seen the data on that yourself or are you just repeating something you've seen said on RP subs and then adding an extra 10% for fun? Just asking, cuz that stat gets thrown around A LOT in here and that's the first time I've seen it go up 😂 Filing paperwork isn't the same as initiating, wanting, or choosing the divorce. A person can sadly file paperwork to end a marriage they didn't choose to give up on, but that one would like some c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:17 PM
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How about you give us some RP beliefs that you're struggling with so we know what to rebutte? What thoughts or beliefs would you like challenged? Imo, from about a decade and a half of lurking in RP spaces and keeping a general eye on them, a lot of their beliefs are poor coping/ self protection mechanisms to compensate for an unhealthy attachment style and past childhood and/or relationship trauma. That might mean they don't trust that women are truthful, or that women are capable of love, it m…
/r/ExRedPill18/01/24 08:16 PM
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Oh absolutely, I have a (former)friend who recently had all her fucked up lies and manipulations discovered... That woman is not smart, lmao. She just did it off instinct cuz that's how both her parents are. Her upbringing fucked up her brain and attachment style to the point that she lies on instinct to protect herself, and she doesn't give a shit about down-wind effects. She also lucked into meeting people who came from shitty upbringings who didn't see her red flags for what they were. My poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:23 AM
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Posing this situation as something that men cause is deliberately disingenuous and seeks to erase the womens responsibility in these outcomes That is how you read their comment, but that is not what they said. Women can and do uphold the patriarchy, especially white women. Because especially white women, and especially women who are middle class and up, find benefits that they value over uplifting others with less privilege. Men are not the enemy, men are not the sole upholders of patriarchy, me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:01 PM
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Maybe police your own first Ok? Women tell other women to work on themselves before getting in another relationship all the time 😂 I've had that talk with multiple friends, men and women, over the decades. People, generally, should be making sure they're somewhat mentally healthy before getting in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:30 AM
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Wanting everything to go right and for things to not go wrong is completely normal, being unable to accept something most people wouldn't even consider to be even a minor flaw (such as fantasizing about a person who isn't you. Ever.) seems unhealthy to me. You seem to be asking for a perfect human being who conforms to your perfect image of what a truly loyal partner is. ...My worry for you is... what if that person does not exist? As soon as a woman gives me any type of heartbreak feeling, I lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:21 AM
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I am saying what is the BP explanation for why women are initiating over 70% of divorces? What does this statistic prove? It proves that women file the paperwork 70% of the time. It doesn't tell you who actually called it quits, or why. Women often complain about men not doing household tasks, why would you think suddenly when it's a household task that splits the household and leaves men 100% responsible for their own home that those men will be chomping at the bit to file? I don't know why wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:41 AM
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Or maybe some of us like men and enjoy being married to them 🤔 When I was deciding to marry my husband, other women and how I felt regarding their level of trustworthiness didn't factor in in the slightest. That would be an incredibly odd and silly thing to put in your "pro" marriage column. Pros: He'll protect me from other women ... Somehow Women can't be trusted, and he's not a woman, so I must be able to trust him. Seriously, I just do not see where you're coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:40 AM
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No, bro. Powerful men centuries in the past built this system. It's a system that still benefits people in power, and they'll definitely choose to keep it going ... But your average dude is just a dude. He's a product of his upbringing and environment. He chose none of those things. If he got really lucky he had good parents and good people around him, and grew up in love and safety and had good role models for healthy relationships of all kinds. Not everyone is so lucky, and that isn't his faul…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:09 AM
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I'm curious, do you think that how one is raised and the values and the perspectives that our parents, families, friends, church, and society at large teach us from the day we're born all the way up into adulthood have no effect on a person's perception of themselves or how they react to the world around them? Were you immune from outside pressures from outside pressure from authority figures as a child affecting your perception of yourself and the world around you? Are you a rock? Are you an is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:57 PM
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That's great, man, I hope your dating life is going well and you're meeting good people 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:32 PM
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“Fuck off, I’m really SUPER interested in this guy” Or “No way, go away bitch, I’m busy.” Or “Look, this could be my future husband. I want to fuck tonight” It might shock you to learn that there are nice ways to assert yourself with your friends. If those were the only sentences you could think of to convey to a friend that you're happy and don't want to stop a conversation... You might need to learn how to communicate with friends in healthier ways. "He seems really nice and I'm having a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:51 PM
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A woman disagreeing with you is not the same as her being emotional. A woman using a swear word is also not her being emotional. So where is the emotion in my response? In your head, perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 01:38 AM
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I'm actually a huge fuckin fan of my liberal husband so 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:25 AM
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How the fuck is anyone supposed to prove you wrong about weather or not YOU have met have met a content pre- menopausal woman?? What does that proof look like? I'm a content, happily married, pre-menopausal woman, though. I know many other content pre-menopausal women. Maybe you have a small sample size. Maybe your experience isn't the whole sum of human experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:20 AM
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Them: Yeah, there's a double standard because people don't take women as seriously. This is bad and a mistake, we should not have this double standard. You: Oh so YET AGAIN men are to blame! Bro, maybe you'd be calmer and more at peace if you'd slow down and realize when someone is agreeing with you 😂 They agreed and offered their explanation for the thing you both agree is bad and you just assumed the worst. This does not bode well for the rest of the discussion...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 07:43 PM
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But thank you, anyhow. Sorry you had to be the prompt for me to rant about it. Your point and rant were both valid and important, so it was a privilege to be the prompt 😊 I'm glad you're doing better and have come into your own! I hope the new year is a good one for you 😊 🎉
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 06:16 PM
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Best ya got, eh? Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:53 PM
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Ugh, bro, I am so sorry your family treated you that way! That's awful! I was in no way trying to invalidate your experience, so I apologize if my comment came off that way. I was in fact trying to advocate for letting people, both autistic and not, decide for themselves if they're up to the task of raising an autistic kid. Clearly your family wasn't up to the task and I'm so sorry for the damage they did to you 💜 I hope with time you're able to get some healing. Parental damage can be so deep a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 03:43 AM
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Yes, I admitted I was immature, insecure, and emotionally damaged at 16-18. 2 years. Of teenagerhood. Guess what? I was even MORE immature when I was 4, wanna hold that against me for the rest of my life, too? Seriously, what's your point? Teenagers are often immature and insecure. Some people have shitty home lives they need to unlearn some shit from. Big fucking deal. Oh no, it took me 2 while years to learn how to read red flags and avoid them, better assume that means I'm that same exact imm…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:22 PM
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Yes, I admitted I was immature, insecure, and emotionally damaged at 16-18. 2 years. Of teenagerhood. Guess what? I was even MORE immature when I was 4, wanna hold that against me for the rest of my life, too? Seriously, what's your point? Teenagers are often immature and insecure. Some people have shitty home lives they need to unlearn some shit from. Big fucking deal. Oh no, it took me 2 while years to learn how to read red flags and avoid them, better assume that means I'm that same exact imm…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:21 PM
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Some people suck, more at 11. Some men suck, some women suck, you're not a huge fan of being told all men are mindless horndogs, I imagine. So why assume all or most women suck in one particular way? As another commenter pointed out, trophy wives is a VERY well known trope ... Should I extrapolate a very well known trope and assume that all men are looking for trophy wives? Of course not. That would be silly. You're going to come at me with, "Oh but it's okay when women do it!"... No, no it's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:06 PM
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Yeah, people's mileage will vary, lol. People are a mixed bag, all of them. Bro doesn't know 100% of nerdy women, obviously, cuz that would be impossible. This nerdy autistic woman has always had a thing for nerdy dudes and has been happily married to a nerdy autistic dude for 17 years. There is no "way" that all members of a group "are". Like they say, if you've met one autistic person, you've met one autistic person. That's true for most groups of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:31 PM
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Being an autistic person and raising an autistic person are both extra life challenges, when raising kids is already a huge commitment to a huge task that you can't quit or burnout from without damaging your kids... And you gotta keep that energy up for 18+ years. I love my autistic kid, she's amazing, and having a mini version of myself that understands my brain is ... Phew, it's kinda beautiful, man. ... But I'm not gonna pretend it hasn't been an extra level of challenges. Autism can also hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:25 PM
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Immature, emotionally damaged people will allow a person to treat them like trash, and men are not immune from this... Or possibly treat others like trash. I think it's a bit of a tossup with many factors, but either way, no gender is immune from the dice rolling in a passive, insecure, doormat direction, or rolling in an aggressive, insecure, abuser direction. There are lots of immature emotionally damaged people out there. Some of them learn and grow and find happiness and peace, some of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:48 AM
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And what makes you think there is such a difference? Could it be possible that either gender can either be in true love or whatever the gender neutral term for "alpha widowed" is? And that the proportions of each per gender are roughly even? What I'm saying is, even if SOME women are "alpha widowed" (seriously, explain this one to me, this is different from "true love" how?) Anyway! Even still that doesn't mean many many women, as many women as there are men, aren't in "true love". So why the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:31 AM
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You asked this twice, but I'm only answering once 😂 anyone else who comes across this question can find my other answer if they care.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:40 AM
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Not to my knowledge, no. I'm a pretty hand-off kind of person til consent and whatnot has been pretty established. Also I was raised very religiously, boys harassing girls was a girls fault, she should have thought about that VBS before she went out in public! (Visible Bra Strap. No I'm not kidding. That's literally how it was referred to) anyway, a boy could be seduced by a VBS into lustful acts with a harlot who deserved what she got ... I can't imagine a girl being brave enough to TOUCH a boy…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:37 AM
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Still not trying to talk to you about feminism, bro. There are women who identify with the label who are pro-men, anti-men and flavors in-between. If you're rejecting potential friends and/or allies because they identify with a different definition of feminism than what you mean when you hear it ... You're cutting yourself off from a lot of potential allies. My point is, I'm not trying to talk to you about feminism but also I think you're shooting yourself in the foot by changing the definition …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:28 AM
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😂😂😂😂😂😂 You don't know me or my life. I've sat around a pool with my mixed group of friends, high as kites talking about our harassment experiences, it wasn't a fucking contest because we're not petty bitches, we're friends who were listening and supporting each other. That said, the women had more stories and worse ones. The guys were mostly shaking their heads in disbelief. They stopped adding stories before the women had really gotten started. I know one women held back her rape story. Oh and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:10 AM
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Hey bro, I just saw you guys kept chatting about me, thought I'd clear some things up: I'm not accusing you of anything, I am saying that classy women won't stick around if you're mean to her. There are lots of other reasons a particular woman will or won't like you, being nice is a baseline. But if you don't want an insecure woman then literally just don't date women who are insecure. I didn't want to date insecure men, so I did not. I mean I did, but I'd eventually break up with them 😂 I marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:00 AM
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I'm glad y'all had a nice chat about me and my true motivations over the holidays, how sweet! I hope y'all had a great time coming up with reasons why "you're getting what you're attracting" is cope 😂😂😂 I've been happily married to literally the first man I dated who both held his frame but who had always treated me with love and empathy and respect... Been together 17 years and I've never been bored. In fact we've literally only gotten closer and the sex has only gotten better. Thanks for playi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:47 AM
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I treat men with respect. Did I heal you? I've responded to you a few times now, always with respect. Are you all better now? I'm not mocking you ... Well not much, and truly with a spirit or friendliness... I'm saying that what you're asking isn't very realistic. People are a mixed bag. The fact that I go out of my way to be kind and helpful and supportive to men around me hasn't healed anyone of their gender based trauma. And those are men I'm actually interacting with! I'm incapable of reachi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:42 AM
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Bro I don't give a fuck what you think about "feminists", it's a broad label that not everyone identifies with even if they're pro-women's rights/equality. I'm not sure why your answer to me trying to give you some hope that good people still exist and are out there for you to find was a rant about feminism, lol. There's no harm in maturing and realizing you need to be careful who you trust, that's smart, that's growth. You learned a lesson a hard way, and you maybe are overcorrecting but that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:28 AM
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Me: Here, have some hope, there are already good people in the world. Also here are some tips we can all use to promote empathy and understanding, and to not give in to the darkness, a darkness I have also felt and understand. I even used perfectly mirrored, if not completely gender neutral language because this is an US problem with an US solution. You: Whataboutism. Putting all the work on men Bro, where? I already practice empathy for men in my own social and professional circles, I advocate …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:17 AM
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Edit: It would be so fucking cool if the people who downvoted me for essentially saying, "Reporting sexual harassment is scary, but sometimes it goes okay and it's still important to do, and you got this! And also I acknowledge that people in general need to do better as supporting victims." What do you disagree with? Hit me with it. /Edit No one can care if you don't even give them a chance to. I've had to report sexual harassment/touching twice. I was terrified that I wasn't going to be taken …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:01 AM
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Well that just sounds like a vicious cycle with no end in sight, with neither party being willing to make the first move. Men refusing to care about women, and women refusing to care about men in return. Luckily there are already all kinds of people in the world. The people who care and advocate for groups they don't belong to are already out there waiting for you. Advocate for change in your own social circles, support others who are advocating for change, acknowledge internally when you see so…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:08 AM
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Well that just sounds like a vicious cycle with no end in sight, with neither party being willing to make the first move. Men refusing to care about women, and women refusing to care about men in return. Luckily there are already all kinds of people in the world. The people who care and advocate for groups they don't belong to are already out there waiting for you. Advocate for change in your own social circles, support others who are advocating for change, acknowledge internally when you see so…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:27 AM
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You clearly had a lot to vent, and I understand. Shit is complicated and it can be hard to zoom out and see a more complete picture. I'm not saying I have the correct picture figured out, but one nice thing about this subreddit is that we can share our perspectives and build a more accurate understanding together. With that in mind, I have some thoughts. When You’re the headstrong confident guy who doesn’t care about her and lets her know it, you never get that treatment. Women come to you for v…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:58 PM
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You said a commenter was pointing out "obvious hypocrisy" in the top level comment and was being down voted for it. I asked you to show me the hypocrisy in the top level comment, I even quoted the whole thing to you to help you out. Please point out the obvious hypocrisy in the top level comment I quoted you. You said it was obvious, so it should be a simple and easy thing to do. Unless you'd like to agree with me that y'all just showed up to gesture vaguely at hypocrisy and pretend there was a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:39 PM
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First of all, I don't care about your qualifier. Daycare workers are not raising anyone's kids. They're not tucking them in at night and listening to their days and helping them process their feelings and learn life lessons and whatnot. Daycare workers keeping them alive while they play with blocks and socialize with their peers. And possibly teaching them ABCs and 123s. That is not parenting or raising. I don't care how rich a person is they're still entitled to choose a role that brings them m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:37 PM
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So instead of engaging on the topic at hand in a meaningful way you guys decided to accuse a random woman who you had no evidence of engaging in hypocrisy and paint her and all women with that same brush? Cool . Super helpful. Glad we have y'all around. In that same comment thread you had woman after woman saying they would NOT expect a man to change himself either, and yet you decide to continue with your strawman against the evidence before your eyes. You apparently don't want to engage with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:07 PM
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I see you quoted a strawman reply to the original comment. Please point out the hypocrisy in the ORIGINAL comment. The one I quoted to you, for easy reference. Not sure why you went digging back into the thread for a comment I did NOT ask you about ... I'm kidding, I know why. I'm just too polite to call you out for it 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:31 PM
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The last paragraph of your comment shows that you didn't even finish reading his before you started writing Lmao, you caught me, I got to "women are attracted to dark triad traits" aka, victims blaming, and skimmed from there. I stand by my decision. It's a way of transferring the blame onto the man and absolving the woman. Oh crazy, maybe you didn't finish reading MY comment because I made a point to say that men can be and are in abusive relationships/situations that they don't even recognize.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:25 PM
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Daycare/school isn't rasing anyone's kids. They're hanging out with them during the day, letting them get important social interaction with their peers, under the supervision of an adult who isn't completely tapped out from too much time doing the same mentally and emotionally draining job of childcare 24/7. Parents are out there maintaining their own sense of self, their financial security, having grownup, mentally stimulating conversations (or at least more mentally stimulating than babbling a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:56 PM
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Just over half (55%) of marriages today have a husband who is the primary or sole breadwinner and 16% have a breadwinner wife. From the 2nd link.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:42 PM
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Don’t listen to those men because they don’t know what you’re going through and as you’ve identified, they only care about power. Your job is to find a compatible man rather than changing yourself to be his idea of a woman. Where is the hypocrisy? Can you point it out to me? One person showing up to gesture vaguely at imagined hypocrisy does not hypocrisy make.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:32 PM
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My dude, you're expecting such perfect rationality, such robot like similarities between upbringing, mental health, trauma, the ways class and gender and a million other things can affect how a human sees and interacts with the world and with others. Abusers seek out hurt and damaged people, they can see the signs of a weak personality, people pleasing traits, low self esteem, etc. Abusers don't necessarily break people, they find people who are already broken. People who maybe don't KNOW how br…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:51 AM
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Some are, some aren't 🤷🏼‍♀️ some friends are better than others, some abusive situations are more complicated than just needing a place to crash. Isolation is just ONE abuse and control tactic. There are many.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:37 AM
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My parents told me to choose carefully, because they had 4 kids and they weren't having us compete for who gets to move back home. No one gets to move back home. That's why my younger brother is the smart one, he never left 😂 Oh yeah, my mom's parents apparently told her the same thing for the same reason. She thought that was a great idea to pass on... Despite the fact that my dad was abusive to his kids and having a grandparent's home to fall back on would have been fucking amazing. Some paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:35 AM
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Abusers also try to make sure the abused is isolated, financially dependent, bonus points if they can be overwhelmed/constantly stressed. Sometimes abusive situations take time to set up, and then the trap is sprung.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:29 AM
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It's possible to benefit from something one finds creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:41 AM
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But hey i’m only 17 what do i know about the world, right? Unironically and without mocking: Right. You're only 17, you don't have much experience under your belt, no matter how much you have. You have no ADULT experience because you didn't have those experiences as an adult, and hopefully, for your sake, you didn't have them with an adult, either. Respectfully, what you know about the adult world of relationships is what you've seen from watching adults around you. That isn't much compared to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:37 PM
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I think some people just need time to grow into themselves, some women included. Maybe that's time to heal from past trauma, or find themselves once they're out from under their families thumb, or whatever. I know my husband and I would both have benefitted from some time in our adulthood on our own, learning who we are as people, before getting in a relationship. I'd like to think we'd still end up together, just with the "luxury" of learning on our own time. Maybe instead of our opposites pull…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:40 PM
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I don't know what the incels or men you consider to be "low value" are like. Are they rude? Am I supposed to give them grace for their rudeness? I'm talking about giving grace to a specific behavior (choosing the wrong partner) and you're asking for blanket grace for entire groups of people. People are all different, I give all groups grace, but for an individual I'd need to know what behavior I'm excusing. Is the incel in question involuntarily celebate because he's an asshole, or poor, or just…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 11:49 PM
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Some people are abused in childhood and don't have a good frame of reference for what good people look like Or have a neurodivergence Or fill in another reason why a person might be hamstrung sussing out character traits. Yes, it's our responsibility to learn, but sometimes you don't even know you're missing some interpersonal education til it's too late. Give people grace, is what I'm saying. Not everyone is raised equally, not everyone's brains are the same, and as another commenter said, some…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 07:06 PM
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I'm really sorry people were rude to you, genuinely. People can be really shitty and shallow. Ugly and fat people in general aren't treated well. It's bullshit. I've had people talk to me just to hit on me when I was hot, and ignore or be rude to me when I was fat... Honestly now that I'm getting back to my fitness I'm almost tempted to stop. The attention is starting again, and I'm legit weighing my options as to if my health is worth it 😂 I've heard similar concerns and temptation to just be f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 07:01 PM
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Lol Maybe we can't always tell, but when bro is staring at your chest while rubbing his hands lightly while he doesn't listen to the answer to the neutral, general, just-wanted-a-reason-to-stop-me, question he just asked... And OMG am I being completely serious and not just one time. And there are other shades of unsubtly in those situations. Again, not always, but often ... We know lol Maybe if they'd try not to drool...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:52 PM
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Because the men who go for thirst traps aren't the men the women who don't post thirst traps want. You have to know/choose your personal niche and stay true to it, and attract those kinds of people the way they get attracted. Like if a guy only posts pictures of his expensive car then he's decided he wants to attract car girls, and that's fine! If he's a car dude then he wants a car girl, probably. But if he's not into cars he'd be dumb to post car pics cuz he's mainly going to attract women he …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:44 PM
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What is it you disagree with? That muscles matter to women? The studies they mentioned? If you disagree that most studies currently indicate that the female ideal has less bulk than the male ideal do you have counter studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:07 AM
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I increasingly see women complain about non-consentual choking and slapping becoming a problem during sex. They attribute this to porn-brain, and I'm not sure I can disagree. So that's what women mean when they say that. Just fyi. It's something they're experiencing and then trying to find a reason for, not something they're having made up nightmares over because porn exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:00 AM
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Not everyone is receptive to learning, some men have fragile egos, especially around sex. I get not wanting to put up with an extra hurdle. I also understand wanting someone who has relationship experience, even if the relationship didn't end up working out. There's still knowledge that was gained, lessons learned, even from something that failed. Hell, oftentimes it's failure that teaches the best lessons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:55 AM
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Yeah, I keep mentioning a daughter cuz that's what I have. My good friend has a son who doesn't get spanked and he's a fucking great kid, he's nice, thoughtful, calm, uses his words, etc. I've brought him up in this post as well. My nephews weren't spanked either and they're entering adulthood as responsible, kind, respectful dudes as well. Literally every child I know, male or female, who was raised without violence is a great kid. Every one of them is calmer, better at following rules, and mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:04 PM
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I don't spank my kid. Never have. Yes, on occasion she's disrespectful, she's 12, she's testing boundaries. She's always found those boundaries to be there, however. I may not hit her but that doesn't mean I don't tell her that her words are hurtful and unnecessary and how to assert herself politely and kindly. Rarely do I have to remind her again. She's done an incredible job at policing her emotions and her words while she deals with those emotions, but also being able to express her own needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:12 PM
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After moving to the South where physical discipline is still accepted, I have noticed people are far more respectful to me, even though I am a minority, while in the “tolerant” North, Lol, I'm a white person raised in the north and now living in the south for almost 2 decades. That's just cultural. Northern people are more reserved and "rude" as a rule, Southern people are more open and friendly as a rule. My spanked northern ass was reserved and "rude" (by southern standards) My never spanked 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:00 PM
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Studies have shown that kids raised being spanked have a higher likelihood of using violence to solve their problems. Thus my never spanked child is far less likely to be the one hitting a younger sibling/friend than your spanked child is in the first place. And if my child did punch someone (which would be incredibly out of character for my non-violent child as well as the other never spanked kids I know) I would be using my words with her, and explaining the damage she did, the trust she broke…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:36 PM
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Thanks for pointing that out, that's very true. One doesn't have to make a mistake to be able to recognize it when they see it 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:53 AM
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Boom. Flair. So you're just pulling stuff out of your ass, eh? How's that going for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:51 AM
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My source is common sense. Ah, so you're just saying shit and have no interest in even pretending you can back it up. How fun for all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:45 AM
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Exactly. My parents stunted my education, I was essentially raised to be a housewife, and that's pretty much what I am. I have a part time job for extra spending money and to get out of the house. I'm happy, I adore my husband, he's a good man, but I'm also kinda stuck... And statistically he's going to die before me, plus life happens. My daughter WILL have an education. I don't care what she chooses in life, she will have the tools and the ability to care for herself should shit hit the fan, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:30 PM
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I think it's because when women see they've made a mistake they try to pass advice on so someone else can avoid the mistake. Older women give younger women advice on all KINDS of stuff, not just things related to men. So, if older women in her life have trusted that just getting the right man is enough, and found out that either because of life or the man himself or both that she wishes she had more education/financial freedom. So she passes that advice on, "Life is wild, don't depend on someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:21 PM
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My husband doesn't find shit or period jokes funny 🫤 it's such a shame, he's an absolutely amazing person otherwise. He's literally my best friend, and has been for the last 17 years, I brag about him pretty much any time he comes up... But you're right, the fact that I have to censor two entire joke categories just pushes him out of "husband material" for me. How have I allowed myself to be so stifled for so long? Thank you for opening my eyes, kind stranger. Seriously tho, peoples preferences …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:19 AM
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No, their mom's did, so they expect that our dad's must have, I guess? Because all things must be equal and opposite, for reasons? My dad sure as fuck wasn't waking me up with anything kinder than a shout, personally, but my husband and I have both taken many turns bringing each other breakfast. Seriously, whose DAD is bringing them breakfast in bed?? Congratulations to you, whoever you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:50 AM
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Ah yes, women who have experience both being a woman and dating women while being a woman and thus a deeper connection and understanding of a woman's experience walking through the world... Allllll off that has nothing to say in regards to how to get or keep women or what women might enjoy/seek in a relationship/dating environment. Sure. I'm a straight, married, men-in-general adoring woman, and I'm loving every word this woman types 😂 She isn't being mean to men, she's giving advice from a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:35 PM
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The point is that what you're calling crazy behavior is widely accepted. This is what something being "normalized" looks like, but it doesn't have to be that way. There are plenty of people to whom this behavior is not normal, or accepted. I'm not saying this to diminish your experience, to be clear, what I'm trying to say is that you're being too accepting, imo, of the way you were treated by this person. And by your "friends". I'm really sorry she put you through all that, and I'm sorry your f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:22 PM
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It's impossible for us to know if she lied to them, or if they were just as toxic as she is, but regardless, what does it matter that other people believed her/took her side? That doesn't change the truth of her behavior or the fact that she wasn't having normal reactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:00 AM
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Gay men are capable of a deep hatred of women, not all, obviously, probably not most or many ... But oof, some. So, "safe" doesn't equal friendly, but sure, at least a gay guy isn't gonna try and get in my pants. Much like my straight female friends who are safe, and friendly ... Annnnd I'm not exactly trying to fuck them. So what's your point? What does women "loving" gay men mean in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:21 AM
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I wasn't talking about women at all though, I was talking about men. And behavior I have personally witnessed men casually, happily engage in, many, many, men, in different situations, about different things and people, and with different levels of judgement/ titillation, both with women involved (as in actively participating, passively listening or as the subject of the gossip) and without. Nothing to do with women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:10 AM
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Betcha it's just some young, high AF sex drive, women who haven't met many, if any, men who can keep up with their high libido and like the other guy said, they're young and/or dumb enough that they're still kinda solipsistic. Basically just ignore them like you would any other dumb young people who say dumb shit cuz they haven't seen the rest of life and what humanity has to offer. They may also be high libido women who are sick of hearing that women have no/low sex drives and they're overcompe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:32 PM
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That's so weird cuz some of my best sources throughout my work life have been straight, cis, masculine men, lol. Hell I've watched them stand around and gossip to each other with me, barely listening, the only woman within earshot. YMMV, but people are people, and people love to talk about other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:25 PM
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Oh no, I'm sorry my writing style was so off-putting that the underlying message got lost. Would you like me to rewrite my comment without emphasis? Would that make it easier to engage with my perspective? Unfortunately talking on the internet to perfect strangers can be complicated, I want to use emphasis to help convey my meaning and highlight important differences, and I'm also trying to be accurate with my word choices so that I'm not using hyperbole and or leaving room for escalation with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:09 AM
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Bro .. I say this as a happily married woman of almost 2 decades, who engages in submission and enjoys it... You have an unhealthy understanding of women, and submission, and relationships. It will not serve you or your partners well. You have a lot of work to do, including building your ability to trust others. As a woman whose partner has just learned a hard lesson on how much his trust issues (and I am not even talking about cheating or other people) have held us back from the deeper submissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:02 AM
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One can be compassionate towards the insecurities of their partner without giving in to every insecurity of their partner. And what about her insecurities, about her privacy and personal space/belongings? Do his insecurities and his desire to reassure and soothe himself by invading her space, and her privacy rank higher than her insecurities and desire to hold her boundaries, especially when she's dealing with her insecurities in a way that does not infringe on his personal space or his personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:42 AM
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Oh I'm so sorry, I don't know how you got the impression that I was interested in conceiving you, carrying you to term, painfully pushing you out of my vagina and then watching all that effort grow up to be ... You. I am in fact perfectly happy with the amazing child I already have and again, to be clear, so sorry you got confused by this: I am not, in fact, interested in being your mommy. Glad we got that cleared up! Phew!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:54 AM
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Its the child's choice if they are born. There's no way you're telling me a fetus is capable of choosing to be born ... the child might punish you if you behave unethically. Its their life, not yours. Oh my god it's even worse...okay... You're telling me that a fetus in my uterus might choose to ... punish me? For behaving unethically... when? Does it know my past sins? Or is it only able to punish me for actions (thoughts too?) that take place after conception? It punishes me how? By commiting …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:49 AM
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That it’s not the size of men women are “afraid” of. Right. That's literally what I'm saying. I'm saying it's the personality behind the bigger, taller, stronger guy that can take him from hot and attractive, to be fucking scary. It's not the SIZE that's a problem, the size can be sexy, it's that women (women looking for a healthy relationship) want a reasonable assurance that the power behind that strength will be used to PROTECT and not to HURT the woman. Thus, women engage in some vetting. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:24 AM
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Men should have the right to force women to undergo a medical procedure that will cause them physical pain and discomfort at a minimum and may also cause them mental/emotional harm ... because the fetus gets half it's DNA from his orgasm? ... Interesting take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:06 AM
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I'm not sure what your criticism is? I've seen women who vote against abortion rights called out on every feminist/women's/women's issues adjacent sub I can think of. But I wouldn't expect women to be calling that out on this sub because that isn't the topic. Meanwhile there are men who bring abortion up on this sub to threaten women with taking it away or otherwise throw abortion in our faces, so of course we respond to that. If you want to see women call out other women for restrictive opinion…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:57 AM
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Bro, you're not getting it. Women can be attracted to strength and size and still feel the need to vet his personality to ensure her safety. Get it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 09:33 AM
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As a woman, I 100% support you in vetting randos on the internet to make sure they're not gold digging cheating whores before you move forward. You should honestly probably have a longer list than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:03 AM
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No, she's trying to pin down specific behaviors and the circumstances that may have caused them. She needs details of what exactly you're calling misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:57 AM
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Okay?? A guy can be built like a brick wall and still make a woman feel safe, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:55 AM
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Look, I'm not saying Grey's is entirely outside of reality and what people do ... I'm saying the OP made the generalization too broad, cherry picked negative aspects of relationships from the show and used them to paint a negative picture of women while ignoring the men in those same toxic relationships , and ignoring the positive relationships all together. OP used a drama show to paint too strong a color on too broad a group of people. That was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:05 PM
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Lmao!! I did not watch Grey's Anatomy to live some vicarious fantasy of being able to fuck McDreamy in a supply closet. The draw was the relationships, especially the platonic ones, and the bonds people formed, and how they broke, or stood fast. And finding out which cast members got killed off for ratings this time...you know, the general drama. Watching broken people turn to each other for sex and then slowly over time build a flawed, but normalish life together was also enjoyable. Character g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:03 AM
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And I'm not arguing with your right to do that. I'm simply pointing out that the word's meaning has shifted and no longer means "weird, awkward, sexless people" in common usage. The common usage of "incel" is referring to a misogynist subset of the incel community, it's no longer a catchall, it's not neutral, it has baggage that I don't think will ever come off of it. That was my point. So no, normal people who don't know the neutral history are never going to call women "incels" because women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 06:27 AM
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Your life experience differs from mine. Literally every dude in my friend circles describes themselves as feminists, my husband, too. Most of them are happily married as well (1 dude is still single). I'd say their wives and female friends like them very much. They're great dudes and genuinely a joy to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:23 AM
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1) it’s often at odds, not logical and very unscientific. For example, the fact is LGBT rights are fundamentally incompatible with Islam. Yet intersectional LGBT allies of “free Palestine” don’t realize the irony they’d get murdered and stones by the hardline Hamas fundamentalists for their lifestyle. I don't have the energy for the rest of your comment, I just wanted to pop in and mention that there are LGBT+ Muslims and Palestinians. The LGBT+ community wants to make sure they know they're see…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:19 AM
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There are lots of ways to convey being a leader without using terms like "parent" when discussing a relationship that involves sex and romance. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:57 AM
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You're saying the quoted sentence isn't in the OP? Or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:53 AM
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Moreover, we have the term "femcels", but in theory, "incel" should apply to both males and females, yet you choose to apply to males only - as the majority does - following the herd. This is funny to me, (because the way words shift is funny sometimes) because "Incel" was coined by a woman about herself. She created a support group for other incels, men took over the group, essentially bullied the women out of it, telling the women that if they won't fuck random incel dudes in the support group…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:40 PM
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I don't think so, my best friend just went through an illuminating experience with friend groups. One group we'd been friends with for 6+ years but she and I never felt connected to, despite our spouses fitting in fine with the rest of the group. Then my husband and I moved away and she was pretty lonely, "alone" in that group of people. Que her finding a new group of people who she DOES vibe with, and now her loneliness is gone. Not all people mesh with all other people, is my point. And that d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 09:02 PM
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I don't see why it couldn't work on a gay man, why wouldn't it? I'd bet redpill doesn't work on lesbians, either. It's not gonna work on people who would never be interested in your sex to begin with, but beyond that I don't see why it wouldn't work on men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:52 PM
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Good news! she may rate the average guy as "below average"... But she'll message him and give him a chance anyway. No need to continue gaslighting yourself over a single data set from over 10 years ago from a single dating website (OkCupid) that shows, not the trend of how women in general choose who to respond to ... But simply the members of Okcupid at that time. And even then it wasn't as bad as you thought. Enjoy that sigh of relief, bud!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:30 AM
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Do you happen to have a link to the study you're referencing? Or a keyword or two I can use to find the right one on Google? I'd like to add that to my saved roster of "random internet statistic debunking". Thus far I just have the actual break down of that fucking 80/20 stat, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:27 AM
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Not having sex is a strictly male issue. The person who invented the word "Incel", and the support group around it, created that word to describe herself. Not having sex is a mixed gendered issue. Men are such a hive mind, they're pretty much all the same. This comment was just more gaslighting trying to convince me all men are special snowflakes. Sad. (Don't worry, I'm not myopic enough to actually believe that second paragraph. I just wanted you to see it turned around on men so you could hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:21 AM
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Guess we shouldn't have given women the right to vote then Ah, yes, the classic example of male rights vs female rights. The right of women to have a say in the very laws that govern you, vs ... The right of men to have access to women who are not interested in them. Such an equal thing to demand and fight for. Such an equal compromise. How about this, we keep OUR right to vote, you keep YOUR right to vote. We keep our right to choose who we tie our lives to, you keep yours. Equality. Hurray.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:33 AM
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Different people have different preferences and standards for their relationships 🤷🏼‍♀️ Different people put different weight on sex. Different people put different weight on sex depending on their current life phase, or current relationship. Some people desire monogamy, others don't. I can't answer for people whose opinion on sex I don't share, you asked for a perspective explaining how sex can be both just an activity between consenting adults and also cheating can be wrong. That's what I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:03 PM
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Everytime men try to work on it, y'all bitch and complain. So your response to my attempt to get a male perspective is to put the baggage you have from other women into me? I'm literally asking you to help me help you and your response is to bitch and complain about some woman who isn't me bitching and complaining. Who does this help? TRP is quarantined, and AskTRP is banned Were they banned/quarantined for offering solutions like "Join the military"? Is that what got them in trouble? Why not su…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:51 PM
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Cheating is essentially promising you won't have sex with someone else and then doing it anyway. This is why open marriages can exist without the partners constantly "cheating" on each other. The broken promise, the lie, is what's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:40 PM
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Not who you asked, but alimony is financial protection/blow softening for a spouse who took time from their career/education to support the family. If you want women to stay home you should be supporting their safetynet (alimony) should they end up divorced and financially set back from the lifestyle you asked them to agree to. If ya don't want alimony ya better let your spouse work. Personally I think alimony will always and should always be around to some extent, because stay at home parents e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:40 AM
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What if I am a wife, most of my female friends are wives, of decades, all of us, and then I told you all of our households are egalitarian, with major decisions being made jointly and we like it that way and would leave were our rights to an equal vote revoked. In fact, that's one of the major reasons my mom divorced my dad and she's never been happier, out there carrying all the decision making burdens for her and my disabled brother all by herself. Is that enough grass touching for you? Do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:23 AM
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There were so many articles from the last few years stating that democratic women are largely unwilling to date across party lines, less willing than men in fact, that I was having trouble picking which one to link... I just went with the next one I saw once I realized my options just went on and on This one too, just for fun
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:10 AM
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The Pareto principle is a known phenomenon, yes. I'm not disputing that if that's what you're asking. But the 80/20 rule as is often touted in male dating circles is one blog post from the guy who owned Okcupid, which is not exactly a good sample of women (or people) in general, just OkCupid users ... And it said that men rate more evenly, but go for the higher rated women. Women rate looks more brutally, but will message guys they rated as lower ranking in looks. But don't take my word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:44 AM
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Oh damn, if you don't like my ideas for how to fix male loneliness, what are yours? I'm open to criticism, but ask as I may I CANNOT get a man in this sub to give me his own suggestions after pooh poohing mine. How can I replace my crappy ideas if no one will give me a replacement? I'm honestly interested in getting male perspectives on holistic societal changes we can make to maximize personal freedom, personal fulfillment and people being loved and feeling a sense of community. Please, give me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:37 AM
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You aren't aware of the leagues of women who don't speak on voice chat while gaming because of the instant harassment they'll get upon their teammates learning they're female? You think that makes women want to hang out with gamer guys and get to know them? Table top games? Same shit. Sports (playing and watching ?? What??) Comic book fandoms Pick a male hobby and you'll find that yes, some women may have FOUGHT their way in, but if WAS a fight and in some places that fight is ongoing. Women ven…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:32 AM
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And this makes us robots? Because we like to talk things out and come to a consensus? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:53 AM
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Please read this question as the very genuine request for understanding and your male perspective that it is: In what way are mixed gendered spaces hostile to men? As a woman I obviously am aware of the ways a space can feel hostile to me, but what specifically is making men/boys feel unwelcome? And how can we change the structure of... Something, anything, preferably something you have experience with? What was it that made you feel your gender was the problem, or maybe that the space wasn't in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:51 AM
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Women being beaten by their husbands, leaving them, filing for divorce and those filing statics being added to the pile of other unknown reasons women filed for divorce, and that being weaponized against women to pretend that the prevalence of women filing for divorce is some evidence of "monkey branch swinging" (Jesus Christ that was a run on sentence)... Should in no way be taken as diminishing the very real and serious partner violence that men are also experiencing. Men simply aren't having …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:42 AM
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So, you deeply bonded with exactly one woman, did so during your formative years, have given zero other women a chance... but you know what they're all like, that they're mindless zombie bots unlike your goddess queen who no other woman can touch. No yeah you sound very well balanced and well adjusted and ready to take on the task of telling the world what women are really like. For sure, bud. Get it. /s (In case there was any doubt)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:36 AM
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Nah, fuck that, women can absolutely acknowledge a societal problem (not all women will agree, or agree with an urgency level, just like not all women will agree on any one solution, but then, women are not a monolith) Hell, imo, feminists and leftists are already the ones working on this via things such as trying to get boys and girls clubs/sports more integrated (side benefit of inclusion: Boys get face time with the girls. They get to bond over a mutually enjoyed activity, practice their soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:17 PM
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Most are initiated by women as well. That literally just means women are submitting the paperwork. You have no idea what or who actually ended the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:04 PM
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Problem is 80% of women are bots who think exactly the same Very rational and sane thing to say. I can definitely tell you have spoken to women in real life instead of just learning about women from other men on the internet who also hate women and know nothing about them. /s Where are you getting your numbers from? Your ass or that debunked dating app "data"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:01 PM
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I do not think it's "being a supportive friend" that's preventing men from getting in a healthy relationship. Proving you're capable of being a supportive friend is in fact a positive for anyone worth being in a LTR with. If you're getting rejected for proving you know how to be supportive then the trash is taking itself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:24 PM
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If you have a friend who uses you to dump their frustrations at the world and doesn't reciprocate then that is not your friend. That is a shitty person. Chad and anyone else your "friend" has sex with has nothing to do with anything. Your shitty friend could be a perfect sexless virgin, but if they're dumping their emotional problems on you and not supporting you with yours they'd be just as shitty of a friend/person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:20 PM
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Almost like different women have different experiences and thus different opinions, and sometimes they even change opinions based on new experiences... Crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:32 AM
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Two minor questions, and I didn't even argue with his answer 😂 So very "live". Calm down bro, you already saw the max spice level. I'm sorry it was too much for you. But it's over now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:21 AM
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Oh definitely, I just wanted to hear him say it 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:07 AM
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You seem to be assuming that the only women who support sex work are women who want to be sex workers, or who already are. I am not, nor have ever been a sex worker, I do not know any sex workers to my knowledge. I am married and heading into my late 30s. I'm pro-legalization, pro-regulation, and pro sex worker unions. Because it protects both parties legally. Because two consenting adults who aren't involving anyone else should be able to do what they want. Because people who want to get laid a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:36 AM
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Would you share a soda with a woman who has sucked a dick? If so, what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:05 AM
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Made it all up in your head. Got it. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:59 AM
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They didn't say it, they asked you. Never did they declare you a troll, they simply hoped you were one. They also engaged with your argument and offered a rebuttal. You're not interested in debating them for something other than this false accusation you're making. Perhaps because you have no rebuttal of your own and need a convenient way out? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:47 AM
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I can understand not wanting to have kids with someone over a certain age, or at all, but you seem quite bitter that a woman may have made life choices that don't fit your preferences and still wants someone to love. So what she had other priorities? "Ignored other men" as if men and their happiness should be her prime directive. "Men she will never truly love and care about." Jesus Christ, dude, there are a million reasons to not be ready for a LTR or kids that have zero to do with how she feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:23 AM
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I think you're missing context here, a bangmaid or human fleshlight is going to have a different experience than a fully equal partner whose pleasure is equally prioritized. Women don't want to have sex with men who treat them no differently than they would a bangmaid or human fleshlight. Does that framing make more sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:11 AM
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Does he have more right to his billions than she does to hers? She should have to care for their kids using 100% her money? Did he ask for 50/50 custody? Did he ask and was there was a reason (like his public mental health battles) that might explain why he didn't get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:39 AM
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Someone didn't read his own article all the way through. (It's you)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:36 AM
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When faced with the choice of a low hanging insult that added nothing to the conversation or engaging and advancing the conversation you went with the easy route. Silence would have been even easier and you'd have contributed just as much meaningful content.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:45 PM
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Citation very much needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:18 AM
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No, I'm saying the person who DID make a promise did more harm and deserves the lions share of the blame/shame. The person who did not make a promise is also breaking no promise, just helping someone else break a promise. Not great, but not as bad as breaking a promise YOU made.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:29 AM
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Jesus, no accounting for the difference in harm between those two scenarios 😂 Not that I'm pro-being someone's affair partner, but I definitely think the person who made vows is MORE in the wrong, they have hurt a person they promised not to hurt, the affair partner may have been told placating lies about the spouse, think the married person has 1 foot out the door anyway, etc, and the affair partner hasn't made any promises on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 01:18 AM
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You think men and women aren't taking an equal partnership and adding marriage and monogamy? I'll have to tell basically all my friends and my husband that our relationships don't exist then... Shame. We all seemed so happy...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 10:47 PM
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"We men are such noble beings that we keep on loving you women no matter HOW annoying you are while using your body to grow our orgasm into a person!" Meanwhile completely ignoring the care women take of the men in our lives when they're sick or hurt. Almost like we take turns caring for each other, and different people have different support needs, some based on their biology. Crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 10:42 PM
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Jesus, there's NO right answer for women, is there? Date a guy based on your height preference: BAD Date a guy against your height preference: Also bad! Or maybe you just think guys over a certain height should never be picked for any reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:44 PM
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How tall is the average woman in each location?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:00 AM
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The men who improve may not get OG girl but they will be high in demand and get A high quality girl There's zero guarantee that the improvement will be enough to get any girl, that there won't be other things getting in his way, etc. so, he does the work, he doesn't get the girl, some other guy in the girls orbit who also did some work on himself gets the girl, or maybe they all do work but some outsider gets to her first. You're telling me there won't be resentment?? More resentment for than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:06 AM
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What is this post asking women to do if not nudge and bribe men to fix themselves? And then, presumably, reward him with pussy? Am I wrong I'm thinking that this entire post and a bunch of dudes in the replies, are arguing FOR women to fix men?? And women are in here saying, "No, I don't want a project" and getting argued with. This post is a perfect example of the exact opposite of what you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:37 PM
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Gonna admit that I didn't watch your video and am reacting to the comment above that you 100% agree with: Okay, so mass amounts of women take this advice, 2-3 guys get led on instead of the previous 0 she was leading on. 2-3 guys start doing some amount of work on themselves because she's hinted this will win her favor... Only 1 guy, at best, actually reaches the goal of winning her favor. 3~ guys have now not only been led on, but have put effort in, with the implication that they'll get a "rew…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 08:19 PM
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I'm just saying that there's a difference between deciding to wear a certain dress to "impress" and deciding not to be with someone you otherwise enjoy and mesh with and who makes you feel fulfilled over what some other dude thinks. A giant, major, life changing, difference. But you're allowed to use whatever criteria makes you the most happy, I don't care. If "other men will think I'm a cuck" is enough to make you drop someone then that's perfectly fine. Your life, your criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:29 AM
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Jesus Christ... That's fucked up! Dumb and evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:27 AM
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And you think you might lose access to these perks if the people giving them out know you're a stepdad?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:31 PM
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Did you just find out that sometimes women dress nice to show off to other women? This is the second time I've seen you use that factoid in this thread. Women showing off their new dress and heels the way a man shows off his car to another dude is not the same as basing major life decisions on the opinion of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:29 PM
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Huh... I might spruce myself up a bit so another woman appreciates my efforts, but if she looks down on my husband for some dumbass reason, or me for being with him, then that other woman can get allllll the way fucked. The fuck if I'm gonna cater who I spend my life with to suit the opinions of outsiders. I'm not saying what you said isn't true, just that it's wild to me, and I'm unsure how universal this is for men, and to what lengths they'll go to in order to arrange their life around what o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:18 PM
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These women sound like the dumbest baby trappers ever, then, lol Sure it wasn't just irresponsible people fucking and making a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:17 AM
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I feel like their use of gendered language has put you on offense, because what does the commenter need to be taking accountability for? Other people being doormats? Other people being boring? Other people being abusive manipulators? Let me rephrase in gender neutral terms: People who are doormats are unattractive to mentally healthy people. Boring people are unattractive to most other people. People will sometimes go for unhealthy partners, often because they weren't shown healthy role models i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:41 PM
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Can you show me where you got the motivation behind the messages? Was that in the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:39 AM
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This wasn't actually proved at all and is widely disputed, is what we are saying. Who is "we" and when did you say it? As to the rest, I met my husband on a dating app, I actually wasn't impressed with his looks 😂 but he seemed really nice and I liked whatever it was he said when he messaged me, so I responded and it went from there. I've also seen my friends meet guys on dating apps, show me their picture, be like, "He's a little funny looking, but.." So it's weird for me that I'm being told wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:38 AM
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Okay? But I'm telling you that same source, again, if I'm remembering correctly, says women put less weight on the cover of the package. So it doesn't matter if she thinks he looks like a plain brown box, she'll still give him a chance to show there's something interesting inside. So it doesn't matter if women find most men "average", since most women are fine with "average".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:15 AM
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If I remember correctly that same source says women date the guys they're less attracted to anyway, because looks aren't the whole package.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:31 AM
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So it is disrespectful, bad behavior. I wouldn't exactly call it respectful, but I wouldn't call it disrespectful either. Again, I've been called a baby by people older than me my entire 37 years. It just isn't a big deal. I've never in my life seen a grown person take offense to that statement irl. It's just a thing older people say cuz they remember how young they used to be and they know there's SOOOO much more to learn. I'm surprised you take it so hard, but I guess everyone is entitled to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:44 PM
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So just a claim. Thank you for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:40 PM
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There's actually kind of an ongoing debate on this topic, with varying options even among feminists. DO men need their own movement? Can feminism do it all? Do feminists even want to take on doing it all? Etc. I think there's definitely fear that a men's movement might start out egalitarian, a brother movement with us, working for a balanced future... And get taken over by toxic mofos and lead to more harm. People don't wanna see a monster accidentally created, basically. I'd like to think a hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:32 AM
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What are some things you'd like to see feminists support in order to show some good faith mutual aid to men? And what would you like that support to look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:21 AM
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What movement to address which from the list of problems have feminists attacked people for? I see a lot of things on the list that feminism addresses such as breaking gender role expectations so that men and women can be their authentic selves and be celebrated for it. But I'm not sure what feminists would be trying to stop others from addressing, unless the proposed "solution" is something like, " Be cool with living under the patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:16 AM
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Out of curiosity, what are the numbers for women for those two stats? Male stats alone don't paint much of a picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:41 AM
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Okayyy?? Old people call young people young. This isn't new. I've called a fresh adult a baby only to be called a baby by the person next to me who is old enough to be my mom. We all 3 laughed it off. 🤷🏼‍♀️ It was an incredibly boring non-event in our lives. And honestly who says I have to respect other adults choices about their own bodies/lives? I don't. Lots of adults young and old make choices I don't respect. Deal with it. I've made choices other adults don't respect, why would I possibly c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 06:24 AM
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You don't have to tell people you're pursuing every single thing you're insecure about especially if it ultimately doesn't change anything about you or hurt the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:00 PM
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You: The reason men are shamed for virginity is because the insult is literally calling them genetic trash. Also you: Why are you guys like this? It's meant to be an insult, not something you seriously think about. You started it. You started with analyzing an insult, they countered with analyzing a different one. Why can you analyze and they can't? Also I disagree with your analysis, lol, I think it has more to do with "Can't get someone to like you long enough to get your dick wet." But that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:09 PM
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Oh you're good, lmao, that comment wasn't to or about you. Dude said "most women are insecure", that's what I wanna see backed up with evidence. I'm happy you're living your best life 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:54 PM
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Lmao!! Thanks for letting me know you're not a serious person who is interested in learning more about another side of an issue. Just keep your fingers in your ears where you're safe, buddy, it's okay. You just keep throwing out unfounded insults and refusing to engage with a rebuttal, it's your safe space, I get it. 💜 You don't need to be in a debate sub if challenges to your insults are too much for you to handle, it's okay to just walk away. I'm sure there are subreddits where you can openly …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:48 PM
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Literally what does this have to do with explaining your comment? I asked questions about your comment and the implications it had. Idgaf about your personal life. Way to ignore the substance and focus on the flippant comment at the end 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:38 PM
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Yeah a lot of times it comes from the predator behavior of specifically looking for someone young, sometimes they're looking for the damaged young person as well, because that trauma and lack of good role models makes it that much easier to manipulate that person. THAT'S the giant problem, the predator, not the random guy who met a nice younger woman at the hobby they both love or whatever. Don't get me wrong, those experience gaps (fresh out of highschool/college vs a few years of actual life e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:34 PM
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Do you know "most women"? Or have a study to back that up? Or are you just saying shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:24 PM
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So at what point does a person get to make choices about their own body and expect other adults to mind their business? I mean... Never? Have you MET humans? We judge each other for fucking everything. Married too young, married too old, better wait to have kids til after college, omg times ticking better get on that! What do you mean you don't want kids? You WANT kids?! So selfish! College choices, job choices, tattoo and piercing choices, housing choices, pet choices, we judge it all! Vocally!…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:20 PM
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Calling them "babies" just means they lack life experience. Not all 25yr olds are babies but a decent amount are fresh out of college with little real life experience. Expecting someone straight out of college to have the life experience of a 30+yr old is unreasonable. They need that buffer time to figure themselves out. That's what the term is referring to. That's how I use it and how I've seen it used at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:11 PM
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That being said, attraction is highly based off of fertility cues for men, which is why teenaged girls get the most unwanted attention. Zero shade to you, this was just funny to me cuz woman's fertility peaks in the mid 20s, not teens, so apparently dudes are really bad and knowing those fertility cues 😂 guys on the redpill side wanna drop women JUST as they're hitting peak fertility (23-26ish) Some of these dudes really need to recalibrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:07 PM
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Yeah, power dynamics can be complicated and sometimes it comes down to individual personalities. Lots of people can be icky, not just older people in age gaps... But sometimes those older people can definitely be creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:00 PM
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I’m guessing you’re not good looking and don’t get much of this attention or just older and alone. First let me just say that I think a lot of the time women have enough of a problem with a relationship it gets vocal it's because they have experience and see a red flag, sometimes they see a yellow flag and then a red flag shortly after (like also controlling behavior). Because there are certain segments of the male population that purposely prey on young women, from the second we hit puberty and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:53 PM
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I think what you're seeing is men complaining about an issue, gesturing broadly at society being "the problem", and then saying "Society doesn't care, feminists and women don't care, no one cares to fix this." And feminists, deep in the work of tracking down WHAT societal issues cause problems we face, doing the research, doing the awareness campaigns, doing the writing of legislation, lobbying people in power, etc... are unsure of how to hear this other than, "You have a nice things, I want a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:08 PM
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Not in my lived or observed experience. Have any evidence? Or just a claim
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:59 PM
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So someone who gave up their career to be a stay at home parent and take care of their kids and family should automatically lose custody of their kids in a divorce? You must really hate stay at home parents. ... Or is it JUST the moms who should lose custody for what was likely a joint parental decision? Why would anyone agree to take what is already a hit to their financial security, their entire career trajectory, if it means they also lose their kids in a divorce?? You're basically saying the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:38 PM
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I've done emotional labor for my guy friends and my women friends. My women friends are faaaaar more likely to reciprocate (other than my husband, he's a good dude). But either way it is definitely mental energy and time expended. My women friends will often ask if I have the energy, and I do the same for them. Because they understand that it's labor without me having to point it out. On the other hand I've had to distance myself from some guy friends because talking to them was constant emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:12 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding what "caring" looks like, and a specific group vs an individual. I'm a feminist, I support women's rights and equality. I'm also a human who loves the men around me, my friends and family. If there's a pro-women's mental health bill, sure, as a feminist, I'd support that. I'd wish it was more inclusive, but I understand that sometimes a narrow thing is easier to tackle. If there's a pro-men's mental health bill, I'm not going to support that as a feminist, I'm goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:46 PM
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I don't know jack about the UK or Mexican football culture, but I wonder if there's a reason those women have begun identifying football players and enthusiasts as sexist. Maybe some personal experiences they've had. Sure, they're probably generalizing and mislabeling an amount of dudes, I'm just saying I'm sure that didn't get started out of nowhere in a vacuum. Perhaps the fandom needs to look at itself and figure out if they're giving off vibes they don't actually agree with or allowing the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:20 PM
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Apparently it's also what men do, you just said it yourself. You're "no true Scotsman-ing" away something men do that you don't like and attributing it to women, even though men are the ones doing the thing in this case. Where the fuck is the logic there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:13 PM
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Women are sometimes put on a pedestal by some people, but that is not the same as respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:38 AM
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Man, if my husband ever listened to you and stopped sharing his lows and his worries with me that would really suck. Couples bond over helping each other emotionally and being there for each other, couples are stronger when they can lean on each other and trust the other will catch them til they're on their feet again. Him being open with his emotions and struggles is a great part of who he is. I would worry about our relationship if he stopped being that way, and he would have to deal with his …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 07:00 PM
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You must swim in different circles than I do, I've seen men in friend groups, work, etc be treated like a human when making a mistake (sometimes a BIG mistake, that hurt another person) and given time space and grace to grow and learn from it. Time and time again sometimes, by both men and women. I'm not going to say there aren't judgemental assholes out there, but I've seen that go both ways. I've seen women treated as stupid or malicious for a misunderstanding as well. I just don't think it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:35 AM
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