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Well that flew over your head but the stabbed by twenty women was illustrating that no matter what it women don't care what happens to men. Shit if the believe all women bullshit would have passed Johnny Depp would have been fucked out of his money. I asked all these women who thought that he was an abuser and it came out that he wasn't and she admitted to lying . Would you care that would have literally stolen money from human and they were supporting a potential thief and liar and women ignore…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:55 AM
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I'm pretty sure it's worth it for the women too with her head caved in lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:38 PM
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You women are making it worse when you won't even consider that maybe he and other men like him aren't like this for no reason. Women act like a man can be stabbed by twenty women but he still has no reason to have a negative perception of women. One women gets catcalled than all men are creeps. So what if the reason a man is jaded towards women because they won't date him, women don't decide the reasons men can hate women and it's making things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:36 PM
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Na they have the mangina mod simping for them so they will keep whining and they will keep banning it. I take satisfaction in the fact that the truth hurts their feeling so much they have to make up lies on why they banned a thread that didn't break the rules ..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 10:24 PM
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My only problem with this is that if the man knows she has settled and doesn't want to treat her like a queen women act like he is the only one wrong. Why do women settle and feel like they still deserve to be treated the best?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:54 AM
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ULTRA COMBOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:49 AM
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You mean how men are paying attention to how anything that women hasn't decided is ok is demonised?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:40 AM
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I mean that very hypocritical of women considering that just a month ago on a post asking why can't men have preferences women admitted to not wanting to hear preferences that doesn't include them. So since women don't want hear how men don't want fat women why should men have to hear that men can't handle a real women? Or women can let men express their opinions and be adults instead of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:34 AM
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Who cares it's not like women debate in good faith anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:28 AM
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You hot the nail on the head and that's why the majority of women on here are pure garbage. This post is worth responding to but they will ignore it and comment on one where the guy wants a sex slave. They were never going to respond in good faith and never had any intention to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:51 AM
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Why should it matter to me if people have nothing better to do than bully other people? Let me set this straight I never wanted to fit in and trying to threaten me with well we won't let you play without toys is so kingarten grow the fuck up. The majority already sees us as piece of shits and if the only way out of that is helping people who wouldn't help me ill wear that label while pimp walking lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:26 PM
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And guns can are a deterrent, not very many people are going to attack an armed person ( although I have seen it those guys were crazy). If women would protect themselves they won't have to worry about men coming to the rescue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:13 PM
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Gun prices usually start at 100$ it's affordable but it doesn't mean that you will be free from violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:39 PM
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Its not a crime to not help women or anyone so anything else is useless whining. You can go and cry to the government to make it a crime but we know how women feel about true equality and that means that women would have to help men and after seeing all the excuses women make to not help men they wouldn't like this very much. I never said that not fucking men would radicalized them, it's that when ever men voice a problem and we don't expect you to do anything about it you can't even do the bare…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:01 PM
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Why do we need Andrew tate or anyone you women think are radicalizing men when we have women like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:56 PM
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I'll ask you then since you want to be captain save the planet, would you be in support of women fucking men if it would stop them from committing suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:53 PM
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Well since I'm not a decent person according to you than the problem people's is expectations. Why be mad at the monster for being exactly what he is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:50 PM
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This is why men are starting to hate women. The least you could do is acknowledge that I have a point but just ignoring the question is showing your apparent hypocrisy. There are men who are still on the wanting to trust women and this is only pushing them away.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:36 PM
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No I would be thinking good riddance to this miserable life?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:04 PM
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So you would be in support of women fcuking men if it would stop them from committing suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:57 PM
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Since we aren't needed give us back our tax money and all women can put their money together to pay for the single mothers and her children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:45 PM
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Who is making the claim that someone would be in any trouble for calling 911? I'm saying we need to stop telling people what they should care about. I don't care if some women is getting choked and whining at me that I should is going to make things worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:16 PM
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So I should be quiet? All the the traits you tried to attribute to me I don't have so you aren't useful either. I also don't owe anyone anything to have to be useful to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:07 PM
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No they aren't ethically obliged to do anything if he doesn't want to. As long as he is not involved or instigating it, it's not his problem if he doesn't want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:51 PM
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A b'd, a b'd that's all folks!!!!!🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:41 PM
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This right here, if I owned a business and for whatever reason I wanted to hire a man over a women I could sued. How is it unfair that that I don't want to hire this women? It's almost like she is entitled to the job for no other reason than being a women and is this not a violation of my bodily autonomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:28 PM
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If women were honest and told these men they weren't really attracted to them they would tell here to kick rocks. It's almost like women know if they told the truth they wouldn't get anything and that's what they deserve for being deceiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:34 AM
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If this was the case we wouldn't have men in dead bedrooms and men having to watch out for settling women. Remember women are in the drivers seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:09 AM
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This totally flew over your head, these obese women or delusional. They can have whatever standards they want but they are probably expecting a fit guy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:43 AM
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I see women saying they don't have options or they try to compare having to date average guys as the same options that an ugly guy would get.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:36 AM
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I didn't choose this but it's what I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:19 PM
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I don't want anything from women now, and all of I have for them is hate now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:50 PM
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They already have and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:40 PM
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I don't owe women shit besides I hate women so why would I help them? That's a her problem 🤣😂🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:32 PM
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Women on here say that men who angry are unattractive but here you are telling me telling me I should be angry with men. Let me guess men being angry is bad when it's about women but fine when it's about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:57 PM
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I'm not oneof these men and I'm 36 so this data just basically confirms that women despise me . Fine right back at ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:48 PM
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I'm an ugly guy I have no pool it's a desert lol. This is why it makes no sense for men like me to speak out or defend women, it does nothing for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:46 PM
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Nobody blames the women for hiding her sexual history which makes no sense because it's the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:39 PM
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Do you hear yourself, an unattractive guy must find a women who finds him attractive? Why does this happen after men are 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:37 PM
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I love how you blame this all on men like they are brainless slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:34 PM
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You women don't need eyes or ears because you don't see or here anything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:34 PM
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This is why women want to ban men going overseas because then they have no leverage. These don't have to improve for chores and that's great. How is women wanting men to improve and they would rather go to another country so women try to get it banned and it not be entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:05 PM
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Fuck those women they deserve it because they could get a guycm who is not as hot but wouldn't treat her that way but he gives her the ick more more than the guy treating her like a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:57 AM
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I missed the part where I'm supposed to care lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:46 AM
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There is no tradeoff he either does this or gets nothing. It's not like the women in his country want him otherwise he wouldn't havevyo do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:39 AM
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So what's his other options because it doesn't seem like he has any other ones if he has to go this route?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:35 AM
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It's pointless these women will act like they never seen it and it never happens. It's funny because the other night my next door neighbor kicked his girlfriend down the steps as I was coming home. She called the police and tried to use me as a witness to so I said I didn't see anything and shut the door in her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:59 AM
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Well it's either that or a bodybag, so which one would you prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:31 AM
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We had a space you women had it shut down so now you have to deal with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:00 PM
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Stop lying, if those forums were really incels you women would have it shut down like the rest of them. You women aren't scary and I'm here because you women whined about us being anywhere so we made our own and you couldn't let us have that. So now I'm on women's ass with a purpose. So what all if all we do is complain about women it was in our space but apparently that wasn't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:37 PM
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Wow I can see where this is going, women telling men they are bitter so just go die already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:13 PM
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I've never been over there but I wonder how many times it's been reported and nothing been done about it. If us loser men still had our forum I wouldn't even be on purplepill period.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:10 PM
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They have hate language just like the incel forums but because it's women it's allowed. Braincels wasn't for women either didn't stop them from going over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:39 PM
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How there are no married men in here, just sexless men to who this discussion is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:55 PM
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There is no boo hoo there is nothing women can do but run their dick sucker's and worrying about who men they don't want are fucking lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:47 PM
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Why when it has never helped me but I know you just think this is an excuse for me to be angry when I really don't need one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:31 PM
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No but only one wrong is getting called out for it. The way I see either we can all do wrong or no one can but the way things are now one gender can do wrong and be praised for it and the other gender can do wrong or right and get shamed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:28 PM
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It's not our fault that women in their thirtys are in the settle down stage. You want these men to start about 30 year old women only wanting to settle down and not just fuck or for those men to go after the women that just want sex. We know how women hate men telling them to change for them .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:25 PM
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Where does already married come up in his post? He clearly said he got no attention so how is he married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:18 PM
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Classic women behavior, take something that men do which isn't wrong but apply I to men in situations where it would be wrong and say they are the majority that do so women can shit on all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:12 PM
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You don't get it for alot of men there won't be a next women because they could never attract one in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:54 PM
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If men are assholes for not being totally honest so are women. The funny thing is women onhwre have admitted to be habitual liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:19 PM
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So what are women when men ask their sexual history they label them as controlling and I secure? Are they not assholes too? I feel the same way about women who can't be honest why they rejected a man. Yeah you don't owe him that but you still suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:10 PM
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It's ridiculous, just the other day a women on here was saying a man wanting to know women's sexua history controlling. When you get down to it calling men insecure and controlling for not wanting to be with a slut is shaming men into accepting promiscuous women because obviously women can't control themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:06 PM
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Why do women think that they can be vague and not tell the whole truth but men should be 100% honest? Be the change you want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:53 PM
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I asked women to give me an example of a way a man can politely reject a promiscuous women and I got crickets. Women don't want men to be able to reject promiscuous women while they want none of their rejections to be questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:32 PM
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There is also no way for men to reject promiscuous women either. I haven't forgotten that women on here have said that no matter how men do it but just rejecting promiscuous women is misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:26 PM
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The hypocrisy is astounding here, do women not blame all men for the actions of a few? Even when they don't they won't men to do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:13 PM
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Not to mention having standards won't stop a women for judging men with inexperience l. Do people really think that women stop caring about this as they get older and if so why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:05 PM
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Look I'm tired of women saying they can't defend themselves you can carry a fin you just don't want to. If Just being a man was enough we wouldn't need weapons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:39 PM
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It's not his fault that the women his age are in the settle down stage. I've asked women this before and it's almost the same, do you think I would have it easier to find an inexperienced women at 25 or 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:19 PM
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Thank you for this, I have seen multiple men say this over the years many ways and it seems that women don't care. I can't change that most women have decent experience in dating and we aren't on the same level. I read on here daily where women prefer partners with the same experience is as then which is fine. I want the same thing it's just that I will have to go younger to find that and for whatever reason that makes me creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:05 AM
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I agree that they shouldn't be applauded but they shouldn't be shit on either and the usual culprits are the ones who had their fun already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:57 AM
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So by your own words you are insecure for not wanting to date a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:28 AM
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Women don't necessarily believe that because you know how many women ghosted me or said they don't want to teach?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:20 AM
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You have to have a chance to fuck to learn in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:17 AM
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Of course they do after being pumped and dumped they want to be in relationship where they have the leverage. He'll be kicking himself for not finding a virgin like himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:16 AM
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Yeah it's called Joi the sex robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:28 PM
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I never had a chance with women so there was never a chance to hurt. Most pornsick men are single, the ones in relationships are a minority you hear about it more because they have partners and they have a problem with it. Who is complaining that single men that women don't want are pornsick? Women say that they only have a problem with pornsick men in relationships, if that's the case it doesn't belong because few if any men on here are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:18 PM
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We don't want sexless men killing people but no one's makes an argument for them being able to wrongfully take other people's money even though killing is way worse than stealing. They aren't my problem but pathetic people making it my problem is causing me problems. While they take money I need and provide no help and I'm supposed to be happy with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:51 PM
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Even though I don't drive I wasn't talking about any of this. I'm talking about women who can't take care for their children. It's tucked up that I struggle now as a single male but to live comfortably I would have to get a second job to support myself an some evil women who thinks men aren't shit. Everyone says that men not being able to have sex isn't anyone else's problem, well why is some starving children my problem and why is it aloud to be made our problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:23 PM
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Since an orgasm can be fulfilled by jacking what do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:01 PM
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That's fine if women don't want me and can date who they want but why is it wrong for me to be unfair to women because they don't have to date me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:59 PM
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How does a guy watching porn hurt anyone but themselves? Men that are really pornsick have mostly given up on relationships so how's he affecting anyone? You women already disconnected intimacy from sex with you can get intimacy from friendships bs. Why is it a problem when intimacy is disconnected from sex because of porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:45 PM
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Since I'm not good enough for society my tax money should be no good. What does that say about the mother and father of these kids that they need money from a loser like me to take care of their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:36 PM
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My answer is I'm not a women so I can't get my intimacy needs met through a friendship. You women are something else, when a says he needs a romantic relationship you tell him to jack off but the equivalent for women would sex that sucks with no orgasm. Now we know women wouldn't never say that replaces a relationship where she's attracted to him and can make her orgasm, so why do women think that jacking off even numbs the pain of not having a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:55 PM
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How does jacking off solve the problem of not having a romantic relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:35 PM
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Why would a man who's superior need help?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:31 PM
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Why would a man who's superior need help?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:30 PM
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I never asked for women to anything especially women bombarding me with the friendships can take the place of romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:43 AM
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Women think this because they can identify as straight for most of their life and all of a sudden turn gay. Men don't do this we are either gay from the start or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:37 AM
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We do value our friends but that's not what this is about. This is about thinking men are a hivemind like them and since their romantic relationship needs can be solved with their friends men can too. What will it take for women to accept this won't work for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:29 AM
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Why should a man improve for a women on the same level as him?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:18 AM
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This was the cowards way out lol. Think before you press send next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:15 PM
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The data where all the hot guys get approached and men who don't approach usually don't have good relationships if they have any. So if I think all women suck balls it effects nobody but me but you telling average and below average men that they could be passive and wait for women effecting people. There is no comparison here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:08 PM
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You including women on this stamping out?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:59 PM
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So because a few women approached you first that means all women do it? You must have missed all the women in here saying they wouldn't be attracted to a man they had to approach and that it's a man's job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 08:56 PM
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It wad a month ago when one of them was up there saying all men are useless even her husband. I looked her husband up and he's worth a few million and the show she's on is owned by a man but all men are useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:06 PM
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That's not the point you said men can take a passive approach in dating which makes no sense. If women are unwilling to send a first message on an app what makes you think they are going to approach men in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:59 PM
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For one just because you are accomplished in something doesn't mean you deserve a partner and its not unjust if they never get one. The view constantly shits on men so don't expect to get much sympathy or support from men concerning them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:57 PM
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How would this work when bumble has shown us that it's not that women can't approach but because they don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:49 PM
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You could have just ignored this post a participated in one you were interested in. Let me guess you couldn't because the patriarchy was oppressing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:48 PM
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No I'm going to disengage and block you because it's a waste of time debating with people who have an agenda not to acknowledge the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:44 PM
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The issue with feminism is that they keep claiming to help men but can't provide any evidence. Which is funny because that's a lot of men's complaints about women, claiming and wanting compensation for shit they haven't done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:33 PM
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If men were to go on national television and say this about women he would be canceled. Now either men can say what we want too or women need to be canceled too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:23 PM
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I'll ask you it's great that women can fulfill this need with friends but if this doesn't work for men what then? Women can say you have get hugs from your friends until the end of time but it won't make it work no more than men telling women to find unattractive men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:56 PM
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That's not the point, I get that women can fulfill this need with friends but if this doesn't work for men what is thr solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:51 PM
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We solved it through women and relationships. Expecting a women's approach to this isn't going to work no matter how many times you say it. If this was the case God would have made Adam another man but he didn't he made him a women. It pretty much states this that God seen that Adam was content but something was missing, he didn't need a friend he needed a companion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:38 AM
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Ok there is nothing we can do, men can't solve it and women don't want to or can't solve it either. Now we have a bunch of less empathetic men walking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:23 AM
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When we ask why do passport bros need to be shamed for striking out at home and being forced to go elsewhere. Women never gave a good explanation they only said you are free to find love where you can and women are free to judge you for it. You are free to reject men and men ate free to be angry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:45 PM
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So he accepts with grace bit still doesn't want to be her friend so that makes him not deserving of a romantic relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:39 PM
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You mean the Ai that women don't want to exist and would disown a male friend if he had one? Not mention it's to be very expensive where most sexless men can't afford it. Why do you women want to leave sexless men with the most expensive degrading option that most don't really have a chance to get and wonder why these hate you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:29 PM
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If this ban goes through what will we do for men who touch grass and still can't get a relationship? You won't answer because you don't care, all that matters to you is that it's gone. You don't care if some men kill themselves because of it. We aren't entitled to a relationships and sex but this isn't enough for women you won't to take porn away too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:24 AM
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What's worse is all the women talking about they lie because they fwer men will get violent. How does this explain why women won't tell the truth online where there is no fear of retaliation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:19 AM
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Why telly you when you'll just lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:17 AM
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Seeing how women defend all the lying they do and all the excuses they make for not telling the truth, how can women be surprised that men have the saying "watch what they do not what they say",?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:17 AM
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So men are right for not trusting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 12:12 AM
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What makes you think men want that when women are so fake these days that their eyebrows are rubbing off?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:23 PM
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I'm not asking for advice, I asking why give ugly men false hope and can't wonder why they start hating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:07 PM
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You just explained why ugly men give up. Since women's egos are through the roof these ugly women think they are better than there counterparts so they will feel disrespected and disgusted if they approach. So explain to me why women keep telling ugly men to approach ugly women with this knowledge?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:45 PM
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I was never going to be attractive for a regular, non beta buxed, not settled for relationship. I can and will complain because no one is going to stop me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:34 PM
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Why should they be fair, don't women tell us unsuccessful guys all the time that life's not fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:32 PM
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Doing what exactly, shit u don't care about? I'm doing exactly what my heart desires which is shitting on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:25 PM
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How do you know are you a doctor for incels now? Why is it because some people can live without sex does it mean that it can't hurt other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:41 AM
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Women don't care about women, if they did they wouldn't be saying there is nothing we can do but say you aren't entitled to sex which isn't working and incels are taking lives. They shut down anything men try to do to fix the situation so why is it mens fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:20 PM
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So what if women don't have to sleep with me if they don't want to we aren't taking men's porn away. It would probably cause more mass shooting so actually I support you create more angry dangerous men and see how that works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:01 PM
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Tell that to the women who are taking my tax dollars to feed their bustard children instead of getting off their ass or giving the child to someone who can take care of them without using other people's hard earned money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:58 PM
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But women expect men to lower their standards for obese women and single mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:32 PM
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Women don't care about women, if they did they wouldn't be saying there is nothing we can do but say you aren't entitled to sex which isn't working and incels are taking lives. They shut down anything men try to do to fix the situation so why is it mens fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:41 PM
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Why should I care about some random child that's not mines starving and have to contribute to feeding him? Society can care all it wants but why do they need my money?Society doesn't help or care and they want to take my money for ahit that doesn't benefit me?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:43 PM
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How a bout this men don't owe empathy or need to stop cat calling women because you won't die from it. It's not a need to not be cat called.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:37 PM
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Nobody is blaming women or thinks they are owed a women we are just tired of people telling us we can't be angry about it or treat women differently because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:58 PM
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Of coursebit didn't women want all the help but don't want reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:31 PM
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I love how you left out the part where it's says" We lifted women up and gave no thought to how the changes would affect men, and a disturbing number of women don't even care",
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:47 PM
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You don't have the only hangout spot lol. Take your ball and go the fuck home already.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:21 PM
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If men don't owe you protection what would they need to be called out for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:35 AM
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For acting like men owe you protection I would probably join him lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:23 AM
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If a guy wants to beat you up for talking to him you probably said something to deserve it. Either take your beating like an adult or don't say thing to get beat up when you can't defend yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:11 AM
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This is delusional women are to actually think they are reacting to something when they are the ones who started it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:17 PM
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How is he doing anything when she has to agree first? It doesn't matter what you have an issue with, this relationship won't work and there is no point in arguing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:49 PM
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I said what I said, I'm tired of women's double standards and I'm a call you out everytime I see it. Don't like it l, stop doing it or find somewhere else to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:05 AM
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The men who say this are inexperienced and are likely to stay that way unless they pay for it so they were going to be seen as pathetic by women anyway. I love how women will say I will be friends with a forever alone guy who is miserable but if he gets a sex robot and is happy he is pathetic and should be shunned. Do you women hear the shit coming out of your mouths? Yeah shitting on inexperienced men is fine but not wanting a promiscuous women as a virgin guy means your pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:59 AM
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So what did you mean by inexperienced men need to get over it? I know you didn't say inexperienced but I'm pretty sure that's who you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:47 AM
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Why do men need to get over notbl wanting to commit to promiscuous women? Right now you are contributing to a toxic double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:41 AM
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Tell women to get over men being virgins in their thirtys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:24 AM
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If that was true women wouldn't think something is wrong with men who are 30 and still virgins. I know what you are going to say it's alright for women to be promiscuous bit not for men to be thirty and virgins. All women hold this belief that's why instead of encouraging those men to find like minded women they shame them for not wanting the promiscuous women who doesn't want them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:15 AM
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It doesn't matter if you don't have an issue with it, most of the other women do and that's the problem. You aren't sincere about not judging older male virgins. It makes you look bad for judging these men because to be honest the only way they will experience sex is by paying for it. They get called every thing in the book for experiencing sex with a prostitute but if they can't pay for it how can women judge them for being inexperienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:16 AM
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If they are fine with it what does that have to do with me and other men who don't want to pay for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:13 PM
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One way is we are paying for taxes for kids that aren't ours. I know other people do it to but if they are fine with it what does that have to do with me? Given a choice I'm pretty sure most childless men would opt out of paying taxes for children when they don't have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:41 PM
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I agree with you one hundred percent. It doesn't. Matter what evidence you provide the legbeards and simps here will just hand wave it away. It's why I treat women the way I do but if they want to believe men are acting like this for no reason it doesn't bother me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:37 PM
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What is the point of this post? To get men to shut up and accept their lot in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 07:06 AM
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It doesn't affect me that's why, if a guy lives next door to me and has a sex robot it has no effect on my day. Even if he decides to have a tea party in his front yard with it, it has no effect on me. If you don't like it, you don't have to get one but when women dislike something so much that they don't want men to have it when it doesn't affect them, it's time for women to get therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:12 AM
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Did you ever think about how this would affect women who do like the job of sex work? Maybe next time say pushing the women who are forced into sex work out. You aren't special and you don't speak for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:04 AM
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What reason should it be viewed negatively for but shaming lonely men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:01 AM
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Damn at least put some effort into it, women seem to be way more convincing when it's the overweight single mother of 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:16 AM
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I think it's funny that you women talk about being compatible and personality but when it comes to the chronically single guy then it's up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:07 AM
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Or it could be the worst relationship ever but he stay because he might never get lost another one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:54 AM
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Counted as an improvement by who?These are probably the same people who say any man that has never had a girlfriend has something wrong with him. In my opinion if a guy has never had a relationship by thirty his first one should never be a single mother. Their experiences will be so different that'll it will just cause him to resent women even more
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:48 AM
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I want a sex robot I just don't understand how women can say that most men aren't good enough for relationships but when these men get a robot you would think these women would relieved but instead they're angry and want to spread rumors about these men. Why is this acceptable? Why shouldn't these women be shamed into a dark hole for being pathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:22 AM
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It should the person who is making the decision but if that's the case women wouldn't be making posts about men want thin women is unrealistic and my personal favorite beggars can't be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:16 AM
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Why are women trying to change things that men don't want as being successful? No man with half a brain is going to think that I have been single my whole life and now at 35 some women who weighs 50 pounds then she did with two kids and barely wants to have sex with me as being successful. If you listen to women it is though but if that's the case why can't we make relationships with sex robots as successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:57 AM
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The only men who are negative to the extreme you're talking about are men who have not and never will have a romantic relationship. Being less negative isn't going to change that and if that's the case why should they listen?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:34 AM
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90% of my hateful life is shitting on women anyway I can which gives my life purpose. I was thinking about getting a sex doll then I seen all the women talking about shaming men who use them, so they don't want men and they don't won't me to have a sex doll, now I'm going to be a monster. Women should have left us alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:19 AM
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I don't care about living a joyful life so it's not a problem and the way I was treated by wome when I was younger has left it's mark. It doesn't matter if it's not the same women, I don't like women anymore and I'm under no obligation to treat women any differently. If you don't like it that's a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:53 PM
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That's the point with alot of men not having success when they are younger it will be hard to tell these guys they are successful when a women finally wants them she has gained weight and has a couple of kids. It's like trying out for basketball if you make the team you belong but trying out and making the team because there is no one else is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:48 PM
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What's growing? Believing all the bullshit women tell you when their is no evidence to support it or acting like my life is fine because a man expressi g he has problems will hurt women's feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:34 PM
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The men you are referring to won't care because even if they didn't have self pity or blamed other people it won't result in dates or women looking past them being unattractive. I know because I one of these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:24 PM
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Yeah you need to take the L like a man and sit ya ass down somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:35 PM
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So because some men in another country can get away with killing women in another country makes everything the op said not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:34 PM
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There are women who satisfy men for a living and enjoy it so that's why ignorant western women tell men to visit prostitutes while at the same time lobbying to keep it illegal. Sick individuals you women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:36 AM
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I'll just go tell you to kiss my ass and if you don't like that don't tell me what my needs are
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:32 AM
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Women full of themselves, just because you got equal rights does not mean you get to tell men what is acceptable in their lives and what their needs are. Women don't even know what they want and are acting like they know what's best for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:25 AM
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I decide what is good enough for me and what satisfies my needs not you. You ignorant women did all this whining about wanting freedom for to do what you want now you got it and you think you can tell men what is acceptable and what their needs are? Go do your hobbies and shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:11 AM
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Is that not what women were doing with wanting a thin women is unrealistic post? Telling men to lower their standards for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:54 AM
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Doesn't matter, at least he isn't wasting time and resources on those used up women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:13 AM
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No they are not, they are equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:35 PM
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What the hell makes you think the average women is likable? They just have a pussy that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:58 AM
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100 percent agree, that's why they want to ban them and shame men away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:52 AM
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100 percent agree, that's why they want to ban them and shame men away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:52 AM
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So I can't have paid for consensual sex in my own house because someone might be bothered? Yes they need to mind their fucking business. Your argument makes no sense because their are countries where it s legal and they can do it in their own house and people mind their business.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:17 AM
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Why would go for a women I'm not attracted to? Women aren't doing it for men so I don't see why men should do it for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:15 AM
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Exactly and she never responded that's why I do the same thing to them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:37 PM
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There wouldn't be a stigma if people minded their own business and women weren't afraid to the only power they have which is sex. That's all this women say they don't want men bothering them well this is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:22 PM
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Like if women don't want men paying for sex then they should voluntary girl without then they can say that.bif they won't do that they need to keep their mouth shut.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:20 PM
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What's the point some men arent going to get intimacy like myself. Why should guys who women don't want be put down for getting sex the only way they can?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:18 PM
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I don't owe you an answer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:12 PM
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Its not a problem it's just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:09 PM
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Damn so the men who can't fix their attractiveness are bad? Since I can't fix it I'm bad might as well go all the way bad and treat women like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:04 PM
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So the answer no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:00 PM
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How am I twisting your words? This is women's problem you don't think before you write shit. You said being is negative so when men here this they are right to think you saying is being unattractive is bad. Then how are the men who can't make themselves more attractive going to feel because not all men can make themselves attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:56 PM
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Yes which is none of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:48 PM
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So men who can't get dates have issues and negative characteristics now? It can never be because he is unattractive? Then they wonder why the blackpill growing, why does the black pill need to recruit when idiots like you say shit like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:40 PM
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Women are the ones calling single men pedos and creeps so why don't women do that? Women create problems but want to help fix them that's why I say fuck helping women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:27 PM
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So none of your advice is applicable to pretty much all the men on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:24 PM
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Do women see men who use sex workers as normal? Would women date a guy who has used a sex worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:19 PM
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Why should we view them differently, do women try to view men who use prostitutes differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:17 PM
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Maybe women should start praising single guys. I know for a fact that it's not men thinking that single guys are creeps and pedos. Women creates this problem they need to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:41 PM
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No man wants to have to a bunch of shit they don't care about just to get a relationship. Especially when you all the people who don't have to it makes you feel lesser than and women telling you to do this are radical saying you are lesser than.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:07 PM
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What happens when the men do what you say and still see no success? I'm tired of all the meaningless advice, some men aren't going to ever succed and if they want to be bitter and hateful, they have every right to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:59 PM
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It won't work because men will be doing it to get a relationship not because they want to. Same thing with hobbies, it's all bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:44 PM
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I don't think they would be glad if they went up in flames too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:22 PM
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Now you come on here tell me I'm wrong is there never a fucking possibility to you people that the woman was wrong? I hate you people don't speak to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:57 AM
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They will ignore this comment but I agree. Its funny because they want bam sex robot because it might cause men to be negative women. Plenty of men came out and said that women themselves caused them to have negative views of women which women ignored. That's how you known their attempt to ban sex robots isn't for the safety of women, it's about keeping bottom tier men down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:41 AM
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Nothing made me hate my country and women more than seeing all the help women get for trivial shit but my real problems were met with your problems are your own and if you can't fix go suffer silently. Well I ain't going to suffer silently and nothing would make me happier than to see this society go up in flames with me along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:25 AM
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I guess only women's and a simps experiences matter? I Guess my experiences of nothing but rejection being polite and getting accused of rape when I didn't even touch the girl doesn't matter. No screw you dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:16 AM
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Thank you, that's why this forum is just set up to shit on men. Women on here literally expect you physically defend women if they are in trouble but say ten words to call other women out for their hatred of men. I will kill myself before I help a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:59 AM
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You said it before I could thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:22 AM
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That's the point them giving me pills didn't make my problems go away so why do them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:29 AM
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If she isn't entitled to my help how am I punishing her for not helper her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:27 AM
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I can't stand suicide hotlines and people who try to help them by giving them pills. They pretty much say his life is shit give him some pills it won't help l his actual problem but he won't be angry anymore. Luck those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:09 AM
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Even if they did they can't make me take anything and why should I take anything being angry which is a normal human emotion? Plus I'm a recovering herion addict so if they do that they are real pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:03 AM
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Because it doesn't matter anymore, I want them to fuel my fire. It's open season on all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:46 AM
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I literally had a women act like I owed her help today at work. I basically told to kick rocks so she asked why I was so mean and I told her about being unsuccessful with women and she had the nerve to say that not a reason to help someone. I had to put her in her place told her I decide the reasons to help someone or not and that she probably find another job, good riddance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:42 AM
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That's for people with experience, to a virgin guy in his thirty's it's all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:35 AM
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He didn't paint anything as evil and I agree with him. It's a common theme around when women do something it's fine but when men do it it's wrong. If you want men to stop calling you out for your double standards stop doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:30 AM
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Why should you, you do the same thing so why us it a problem when men do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:45 AM
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I'm not answering you because men are treated like shit here, women don't answer when the question holds them accountable so I'm doing the same thing to women that they do to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:39 AM
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Dude go fuc yourself he didn't ask for preachy feel good bullshit. I agree with and it gets annoying when people try to tell you about your experiences. Women are not good people these days so lies won't work anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 08:38 PM
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Hey guys you won't believe it but saying that these pathetic ass women on here that there so called husbands or boyfriends don't exist counts as a personal attack. The women on here can call men rapists and incels and nothing will happen. From now on will definitely treat these women like the piece of shit they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 08:12 PM
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From you he will probably get starfish sex, constantly bitched out and he done everything you listed you will sit around with your friends and still say he ain't shit. That's why men stop putting in work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:44 PM
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If he was real🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:41 PM
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Women saying men preferences that disqualify women hurts their feelings and should be counted as misogyny makes them garbage. Labeling this forum as neutral but only enforces the rules on one gender makes them garbage. These are all things women have done and have control over but my for some reason can't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:31 PM
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The funny thing is if you would have said that to them you would have gotten the be civil message. Shit they removed a bunch of men's comments for circle jerking so when women did it I reported and they messaged me and said no rules were broken. Neutral site my ass and fuck their rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:53 PM
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Loser are the ones who have reading and hearing problems when people show the receipts of how garbage women are today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:50 PM
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But the world must bend to women's? You must have forgotten that any preferences that discount women are misogyny and cause women's feelings to be hurt. Men aren't asking for women to banned from being able to fuck Chad but women are definitely wanting men they aren't attracted to not be able to get a sex robot. There are plenty of receipts on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:58 PM
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You are probably part of most of the women group on here that wants to shame men that would get a sex robot because no women wants. The fact that women thinks this is ok needs to be locked up until they don't have these thoughts. Any women shaming these women are just as bad and should l treated the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:50 PM
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Doesn't matter anything that men have tried to do to get away form you harpies women have shut down or want banned. Sex robots, women said they should be banned because they might cause men to have negative opinions of women. He'll women keep saying that friendships with men and family are the solution for men. If women really want and believe than the men who have said this should have gotten 30 up votes but they got none . Women say all the attention from men they aren't attracted to is useles…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:43 PM
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We know now that anything that doesn't coddle to women doesn't make sense. This forum needs to change its title because it's not neutral at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:28 PM
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You made a great post and I agree but women want things to be better without them having to do anything. What will happen is things will get so bad that they will want make changes but it will be to late then. If the women on here weren't trolls they would respond and acknowledge this post but they are here to shit on men and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:27 PM
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This is a pathetic way to not answer his question when he answered yours, but women are for equality right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:59 AM
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So they want to shitty things and not be called out for it? The definition of a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:56 AM
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Thank you, that's why ignore women when they blame a bunch of reasons for that are causing men to think negatively about women. They keep intentionally avoiding the one and only reason this is happening and that's themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:13 AM
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Why would someone be happy after their experience if trying and failing? Men are tired of people telling them that being bitter doesn't fix anything which is the cowards way of saying no matter how fucked up things are you have no right to be angry. Well let me tell you something being happy doesn't fix anything either which I no from experience so I guess I have no right to be happy either? I'm waiting for all the excuses of why I should be happy even though it doesn't fix anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:46 AM
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Well after seeing women admit that JUST a man rejecting a women for promiscuity is misogyny or believe that it should and add on to that the believe all women shit women have shown rhey cant be trusted. Go head though because what will probably happen is women trying to shit on men end up proving that women cheat and have way more sex than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:30 AM
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I have never heard a man say no one wants her why should I unless she has been known to be promiscuous. I have heard just about every women on here say that. You women need therapy trying make men's standards as ridiculous as women's to make excuses for being afraid of rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:15 AM
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You must mean it's more acceptable for women to be single not men. Single men aren't even wanted around of they might want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:06 AM
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I love when men use women's weapons on them because they either have to sit their and take it or call it out for being wrong which means calling themselves out. You like most women have chosen to sit and take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:49 AM
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What I don't get is why they lie, they know it's lies and wonder why things have gotten worse? Why do they lie and not expect for things to get worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:39 AM
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I just don't how someone can complain about something and turn around and do the exact same thing and give excuses for it or say it's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:08 PM
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What moral stance could women hold to not want a virgin man to find a virgin women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:01 PM
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What does any of this have to do with women having a problem with virgin men not wanting experienced women even though they don't want them but fine with experienced women not wanting virgin men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:55 PM
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I would agree with you but women aren't giving advice to find virgin women, they are outraged that the virgin guy doesn't want the experienced women. That why don't understand women are on here daily cry about men shaming women to get with men they don't want. They do the same thing instead giving him advice to get what he wants they shame hum to try to him to take what he doesnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:43 PM
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If they can't get a relationship and they don't want to be single l.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:28 PM
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The thread about men not being able to have preferences showed me how evil women are. Basically any preference leaving women out is man bad. It reminded me of a virgin thread on here where a virgin guy explained why he didn't want to date experienced women in the most positive way and the women here still branded him the candy man but the most common reply was why do you want a virgin women. Women come out with a thread on why they don't date older virgin men and they said the same things the vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:26 PM
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If that was true women would be funding it themselves and not trying to have them banned and shame guys that use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:12 PM
1

That's the problem men aren't intentionally picking to be alone, they are being forced into it. I'm not saying women need to be forced to be with someone but if you don't think this a problem there is no reason to talk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:15 PM
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That's the the thing you don't have to care to be a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:54 PM
2

It takes a real piece of shit to say they don't care about the rape victims of one gender and we all know which one that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:46 PM
1

I'd love to to see women I can't even approach men and have to make up all types of excuses for why they shoudnt make me shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:03 PM
5

Well..... damn, just ... damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:52 PM
9

So you are trying to remove mens ability to dump you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:35 AM
1

You are full of shit so if someone asks a guy why he has an Ai partner he isn't supposed to say no women would give him a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 01:12 PM
1

Where did he mention anything about getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:27 PM
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