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Dude, there are 12 year olds that meet the same criteria for maturity as the criteria you’re talking about, minus living away from their parents. You think that Miley Cyrus during her Hannah Montana days was mature just because she had financial independence and was well traveled? My dude, when you get older, you’ll realize that no matter how mature somebody’s mindset is, emotional maturity only can be developed from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:12 AM
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They’re not doing that to make it a prize you win. They’re doing it because they’re afraid that you’ll slut shame them and not like them anymore if they put out. Lose the slut shaming attitude and you’ll actually be surprised by how many women will be willing to have sex a lot faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:10 PM
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It’s just so false. Everybody is different, and there are always exceptions, but on average, you are just so incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:22 PM
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You seem to have the belief that women’s sexual attraction works like men’s Men’s attraction is like a light switch. We see somebody hot, we have sexual attraction. Women’s is more like a dimmer light. They are never sexually attracted to somebody on first sight. They can think “he’s good-looking”, but that doesn’t equate to sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:09 PM
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Most of the time, women don’t want attention from you at all. Then, you start vibing, and they’ll want attention and connection. Then, they’ll want sex. If they are giving you the chance to give them attention, they are giving you the chance to form enough attraction that they eventually want sex. But if you are only focused on sex from the very beginning, you’re going to run most women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:38 PM
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You only see it that way because the idea of just enjoying somebody’s company/vibing with somebody and not being laser focused on how to get sex from them literally doesn’t exist in your brain. GREAT sex is not transactional. It’s something two people who have great chemistry do WITH each other. “Sex is like oxygen. It’s only a big deal if you’re not getting any”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:30 PM
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Any RP is far too deep
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:57 PM
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God I say this so much, but it’s so bizarre how transactional you dudes view man/woman interactions. Sex is not a prize you win. It’s not something you do TO somebody. It’s an activity you do WITH somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:51 PM
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This is a great take. I used to be red pillish - not deep into it, but gravitated towards it due to feelings of loneliness. I fortunately met some awesome mentors that helped pull me out of it, and I can very confidently say that when you’re in that RP mindset, you absolutely don’t view women as people, even if you think you do. You have this burning need to have sex. It can become all-consuming. Your entire sense of self-worth is based on it. When you’re in that mindset, women’s value to you is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:55 PM
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“Not all women are immature at 20-24” Yes they are. Maybe some are mature for THEIR AGE, but they literally lack thr life experience required to be mature. Your 3 anecdotal examples are not enough to support your argument here. In fact, a quick Google search suggests that the average age gap in most marriages is 2.3 years. https://www.psycom.net/relationships/age-difference-in-relationships Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure there are some relationships with age gaps. But if you think that turning 32 …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 01:54 PM
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You’re using mental gymnastics to justify shitty behavior. My dude. Say this with me. “I am sad because I feel lonely and rejected and unlovable.” I’m not saying this to be mean. You need to acknowledge how you actually feel. There is power in vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:31 AM
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I disagree. I’m 33. Somebody who is 20-24 is immature and will have nothing in common with me. I feel like my peers, both men and women, will view me as immature if they knew I was dating somebody that young. My guess is that you are young, and you don’t actually spend time around a lot of dudes in their 30s. What you think it will be like…it’s not gonna be like that bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:21 AM
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I see. Makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:17 AM
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I don’t get it. Are you saying that the only chicks that give good dome are prostitutes and porn stars?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:48 PM
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I am a man, and I like women with more experience. I don’t want toothy blowjobs from a chick that doesn’t know her body well enough to know how to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:42 PM
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You think that, but I’m 33 and he thought of dating a 21 year old girl is nightmare fuel. I’d maybe fuck a 21 year old girl if I didn’t have to talk to her, but no way would I be able to actually connect with her
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:26 PM
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Novelty is novelty
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 05:42 PM
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God man. Dudes who whine about not being one of the dudes that women want to fuck when they could just literally become a desirable man by working on themselves… Edit: I kinda don’t think it’s a bad idea to have a child-free tax for the greater good of society
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:46 PM
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I feel like the phrase “low inhibition” isn’t spot on, but it’s close. Self control is a good thing. Restraint can be hot as fuck. Lacking those definitely can get you laid with unstable party girls. But you should definitely be a man that goes after the things he wants without fear of failure and rejection. If you want a chick, go for it knowing that she may reject you. And when you do get rejected, have the mindset of “it’s not personal, no big deal because there are other fish in the sea.” Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:37 PM
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Looks will always be important to most men, but men’s tastes vary. Personality can definitely still matter too, and good men will always also value connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:45 AM
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“Women seem paranoid about men not being reliant on them” Why do you think this? I work with a company that’s probably 65% women. Most of them are attractive. I’m very close with my conworkers. Not a single one of them have even hinted at this being a fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:13 AM
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If you think radical islamists have a chance to take over the us, you know very little about anything
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:10 AM
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I agree. I mean, inhibition isn’t the right term maybe, but the idea of being a man that goes for what he wants without letting the potential rejection stop him is an extremely attractive type of dude. More attractive than being good-looking, rich, tall, or anything else red pill dudes think chicks care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:07 PM
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It’s both. It’s a perpetual spiral that keeps reinforcing the other piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 04:32 PM
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The two f’s - fitness and fashion. You don’t have to be shredded, but making a conscious effort to stay decently healthy makes a massive difference in how you look. Massive. Especially your face. You don’t have to be mr suave gq superstar, but you need to wear clothes that fit, and you need to show at least some type of effort beyond graphic tees. At least when you go out for social events. Pick an identity that you’d like to represent. Find clothes that look nice, fit you, and represent the typ…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:48 PM
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You can totally meet people irl if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:02 PM
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If the men around you make fun of you for improving yourself, you’re hanging around with losers. Loooooseeeeers. Seriously. Their opinions shouldn’t matter because they are fucking losers. You become who you hang around with the most. If you’re hanging around losers, that’s a big part of why you’re a loser. Stop hanging around with losers. Successful people will encourage you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 03:25 PM
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Yes. Conditions: I am attracted to her and want her to be my life partner. Idgaf if she makes more money than me. Good on her. I’m pretty financially ambitious. To be honest, having a wife that made a good income on top of my good income would be ideal. Combined, we could climb the socioeconomic ladder much faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:10 PM
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I am strongly against the incel/black pill movement. I’m also against the subreddits that bully them. Those guys need therapists and have a slew of mental health issues. It’s always good to take a stand against the hateful rhetoric they spew, but actual cyber-bullying doesn’t help them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 01:55 PM
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You red pill/black pill guys confuse non-neediness with active disinterest You can give her compliments and see her as the best option. Just don’t act like a needy bitch. There’s a balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 12:13 AM
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Yeah, I’m 100% with you, Op. as a guy. I actually made a thread about this the other day. These virgin ass dudes think they want some nice churchy girl who is saving herself for the one. They’re going to be disappointed. Having boring vanilla sex is fun when it’s a new partner because her body is novel. It gets boring very fast. Find you a girl who gives road head. Who wakes you up by sitting on your face, then riding you, then finishing you with her mouth while moaning about he she loves tastin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:48 PM
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You get mad at girls for not wanting casual sex with you. But if they do have casual sex, you say that they’re used up whores with high n counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:55 PM
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I mean, I’m not making a definitive claim so much as implying that these are variables that would have to be controlled for before your correlative study also can prove causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 04:54 PM
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You mean chicks with low sex drives who weren’t into sex enough or were too ugly to fuck around are more likely to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 12:10 PM
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This is most likely a troll post. I wouldn’t feed the troll
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:39 AM
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Guy here. I just got out of a 4 year relationship. I am not emotionally ready to be in a relationship now. I will want a relationship again down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:37 PM
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I don’t care if dudes have one. It would never change my life whatsoever. It’s the dudes that are into the idea that are hoping that women will suddenly realize what they’ve been missing out on…like y’all are reveling in the idea of women experiencing loneliness and sadness. You want them to feel what you’ve been feeling. It’s odd. Just love your lives and stop worrying about other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:43 AM
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I’m a dude, and I would never get a fembot. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:41 AM
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Why is having preferences something they need to be called out on? I am selective about the girls I’d fuck how is that any different?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:14 PM
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Except it’s not. The whole golden penis idea doesn’t work because women would rather just not have sex than have sex with unattractive dudes. Better ratios aren’t actually helping
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:53 PM
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They don’t feel threatened though lol Literally every female comment is like “ok whatever” Men that women actually want to fuck aren’t going with those sex dolls. Women are literally losing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:52 PM
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It is and it shouldn’t be. But a sex doll that is AI-programmed to act like a human is not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:51 PM
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If you had a backbone, you’d be getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:49 PM
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The difference is that dildos, vibes, and fleshlights are meant just for sexual stimulation. This is meant for both physical and emotional replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:43 PM
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You think that strong independent women don’t also like to suck dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:41 PM
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A lot of time, those rude princesses aren’t actually as rude as you think. They’re rude to scrubs who only see them as a sex object. They’re cool within their own social circles
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:40 PM
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If 99% of women were 400 lb toothless chicks, I wouldn’t settle for a 400 lb toothless chick. Those dudes buying the sex dolls are the make equivalent of a 400 lb toothless chick
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:34 PM
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Lol this. The only dudes that would ever choose sex dolls over women are dudes that never would be chosen by real women in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:31 PM
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Man y’all must be so lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:29 PM
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It really wasn’t though. It was a response to a blatantly sarcastic reslonse
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:34 PM
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Salty incel thread
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:32 PM
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It’s funny how every TRP dude claims to be drowning in pussy. Nobody believes you my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:52 PM
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The idea that improving yourself and getting fit is some groundbreaking red pill ideology is so bizarre. Self improvement existed before TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:49 PM
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Great convo skills. No idea why you’re not drowning in pussy rn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:36 PM
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No. It’s not niceness. It’s being a pussy. There’s a difference. Nice means you are kind. When I do something nice for somebody, I do it because I want to do something nice. I want the person to feel good. Most importantly, I don’t expect anything in return. Not sex. Not brownie points. I’m not doing it because I want her to like me more. I’m just doing it. The intent behind niceness is everything. Additionally, you can’t be a total pussy. Be decisive. Set and enforce boundaries. Speak your mind…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:15 PM
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That’s entirely up to the individual my dude. I don’t need to be the wealthiest out there. I just like boats 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:11 PM
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The premise of “take responsibility for your own life” is great. If only TRPers on this forum didnt also spend all of their mental energy arguing about how women need to lower their standards and stop being so shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:10 PM
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No. Idgaf what other people do. I’m telling you that being successful isn’t just some slave life. Get good at a marketable skill and life gets easy. Yes. It does take work to get good and prove yourself. But life is literally ezmode after that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:08 PM
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I’d agree with that, but with the caveat that spending mental energy on the robber is a waste of time. This sub essentially has all of these dudes posting long-winded rants and interpretations of studies about how robbers are shit people because they rob. Stop focusing on what you can’t control. Focus on what you can control. That’s what taking responsibility is I’m not saying it’s fair. I’m saying that if you want your own personal best outcome, this is the mindset to take
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 03:54 AM
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Being determined to improve makes you an idiot narcissist?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 03:52 AM
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Chicks being attracted to big dudes because they’re attracted to big dudes doesn’t validate incels point. You can be 5 foot 5 and crush it. You can be 5 foot 5 and pull more than 6 foot 4 dudes. It IS harder but that’s the point of my Op. it is USELESS to whine about how it’s not fair. All that does is drive more distance between you and what you want. Focusing on “how am I gonna improve” is the only thing that should be on your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 03:51 AM
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I mean I’m 33. There’s no carrot. I can do whatever I want. I work from home, 30 hours per week, make enough to travel, own a home, and fund an airbnb side hustle that will hopefully allow me to retire within 5 years. The idea that I’m slaving away in some rat race is so misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 03:47 AM
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Financial freedom is dope. Being able to travel is amazing. Having money to invest in cool and fun hobbies like water skiiing, skydiving, or whatever it is you think you’d be into. Like you think being some broke ass who never gets do do anything cool or have any unique experiences in life is worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:26 PM
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I don’t disagree with those last two sentences. But I also think that most women who sleep around or act masculine dont care if they’re turning off guys that don’t like those things. In fact, I’d say that they’re living their best lives, and I’d recommend dudes do that as well. Polarize people. Be a fuck yes to 15% and a fuck no to the other 85% instead of a maybe yes to 70%
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:22 PM
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I can appreciate your struggle here, and I’ll agree that the lack of true feedback is difficult. I’d even concede that women are often not great at giving good feedback to men when they try to. To be fair though, many times when women try to give feedback, the dude goes rage mode on them and insults them. I think after experiencing that a lot, women just assume it’s better to ghost or say as little as possible. At the end of the day, fashion, fitness, hygiene, career, and lifestyle. Work at thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:21 PM
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You act like pussy is the only reason to want to do these things. How about be the best version of yourself because it’s just the most satisfying way to live life?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:18 PM
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There’s a difference between fault and responsibility. It may not be your fault that your boyfriend suddenly became abusive. But it’s your responsibility to deal with it. It’s not your fault you got cancer (most of the time), but it is your responsibility to choose the treatment (or no treatment) that beat suites you. Everything is your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:17 PM
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Yikes bro. Listen, you can keep doing what you’re doing and keep getting the results that you’re getting. Or you can drop the negative Nancy act and actually start improving. The reality is your ego is telling you to blame women so that you don’t have to be responsible for it. There are some insanely mediocre men out there banging gorgeous girls while you type away all day in rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:15 PM
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They actually can though. I’m not trying to motivate you to be the next Lebron. Being attractive to women is surprisingly achievable, and by doing all of these things, your also improving every other aspect of your life. Like these are things that you should be doing even if you got your dick amputated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:13 PM
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Jews usually can get pretty hot girls man. Just move to south Florida. Huge Jewish community there. Girls are all hot af, and they’d think your accent is sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:12 PM
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Or both
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:53 PM
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I feel like these dudes overthink their way into incel-dom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:43 PM
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Lol seriously. The amount of mental gymnastics and overanalyzing that happens here is so bizarre
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:41 PM
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Lmao goddam dude. Ive seen some bizarre mental gymnastics, but this is actually the best. Women mostly need clitoral stimulation to cum. The best tool we have for that is our tongues. If you don’t like doing it, just find one of the 15% of women who can cum from PIV alone. Or just don’t give a shit about her pleasure. But don’t complain if she stops having sex after a year or two into the relationship. If you don’t like going down, that’s okay. Some dudes don’t. Me personally, I love it. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:41 PM
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I’m confused and not even sure what point you’re trying to make anymore. You go to a party. You never ever fuck a girl without actually talking to her. Never happens. You first gotta demonstrate that you’re one of the cooler dudes in the room. Then you show her that your sense of humor aligns with hers. Then you make some moves, usually some light touching slowly escalating into making out. No girl is just like “I like your face let me sit on it”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:31 AM
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This is an example of not taking responsibility for your own outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:28 AM
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It’s so weird how transactional some dudes see dates. It really highlights the lack of social skills some of y’all have. I took a girl to a trampoline park the other day. I had a lot of fun at the trampoline park. If that date didn’t end in sex, I still had fun. After that, we grabbed a few drinks. We had some great conversation and banter. If that date didn’t end in sex, it still would have been a great time. You have this bizarre need to set a goal post instead of just enjoying what you’re doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:23 AM
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There’s no point in giving them advice because they don’t take it. These men aren’t successful with women because they refuse to take responsibility for their own outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:19 AM
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No dude, you’re just wrong. Even when women hook up, they still want some kind of connection. Maybe there are some extremely rare exceptions, like if she hasn’t gotten laid in a long time and is absurdly horny or something But generally speaking, even when the dude is physically attractive, she needs to feel some connection. Connection is essentially feeling like they “click”. Every fuck buddy ive ever had, I had to flirt and keep up the flirting. We never only fucked and nothing else. We’d Drin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:55 PM
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That is quite a small sample size
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:44 PM
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No. We like connection, but that is separate from sexual attraction. Sex is better if we’re connected, but our sexual attraction changes very little if we’re connected. If a girl is hot, she’s hot. That’s it It’s different for women. Connection is a huge part of sexual attraction. Having no connection is like the equivalent of some wearing a mask on their face. We can’t actually tell if they’re not or not until the mask comes off. Go to r/deadbedrooms and you’ll see very clearly that there are j…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:56 AM
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Dude, if you actually go out, you’d be surprised at how many short dudes get cute girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 04:54 AM
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This is such a bizarre way to blame women for sexual harassment. Women’s sex drives can be just as high as men. What makes a woman sexually attracted to a man is different than what makes a man sexually attracted to a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:59 AM
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Women want more connection than men with their sexual partners
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:58 AM
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Go to r/deadbedrooms and look at how many people there are women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:54 AM
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Do you really think prostitutes are THAT common? Dude, it’s not actually that difficult to get laid if you are socially adjusted and actually have a decent social circle. Loners who do nothing but play video games and have no social life struggle to get laid. Don’t be a huge fatass. Shower daily. Dress in clothes that fit. Have a group of friends you regularly do social shit with. Easiest girlfriend formula out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:52 AM
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I think there have always been beauty standards that are unrealistic for men. The difference is that men dont generally feel like 100% of their worth in society is their physical attractiveness. Women do. So the pressure hits different for women than it does for men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 05:21 PM
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Either
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 04:55 AM
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What girl/guy? How are you going to meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 06:03 PM
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None. 200k software engineers don’t get dates because most of them have no social skills. Social skills get you dates over anything else. Develop social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:14 AM
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I feel like that is a normal dream. What career are you wanting to do that won’t require you to work or put in any effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 08:13 PM
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My dream is to have boats and fuck hot girls. What’s your dream?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:12 PM
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I don’t overwork myself. I probably work less hours than you do. But have fun being poor and lonely my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:41 PM
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What are your dreams? To be poor and sexless in your moms basement did life? It’s funny you assume I’m some miserable slave. I like my job. I work from home and set my own hours. My company flies me out to a new city every two months for a show. We don’t even talk business on these shows. It’s just a big networking party. This weekend, I’ll be going to Vegas and will almost certainly get laid. I make enough money doing something that’s relatively fun that I can do whatever I want in life. You’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:32 PM
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Corpo shill who has everything in life you wish you had. The whole “wage slave corporate shill” thing is just cognitive dissonance. You are a lazy bum who has never accomplished anything in his life, and instead of admitting it, you’ve created this entire cognition that the people going after what they want are losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:52 AM
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No offense, but my brain automatically assumes anybody who says this lives in their moms basement and does nothing but plays video games all day
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:22 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:17 AM
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You do have the right to judge. But it does make you a dick
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:12 PM
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Not understanding what you mean. Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:08 PM
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Yep. I think dudes get rejected specifically for one thing, and then they let that one thing dominate their minds. You can be 5’5 and dress well, have nice teeth, a killler body, and be charismatic and funny. Be the best version of yourself and your flaws will almost be attractive because they make you human and give you a chance to be vulnerable with somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:03 PM
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“It’s still sad” See, that sounds a lot like judging. It’s not sad. Nobody is being harmed by it. You don’t do it, and that’s fine. I don’t play Pickleball. I don’t think it’s sad when somebody else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:15 PM
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Women like the process leading up to sex. Even way before it seems like sex is on the table. Going on dates. Light touching. Making out. Foreplay. Most dudes stop doing all of that. Sex is one sided if it’s only done the way men want it. All of that stuff leading up to sex is an important part of sex to women. Of course they lose interest if the important parts of it get left ojt
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:13 PM
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The egos on random internet dudes is fascinating to me. Like, you’re literally explaining to him how to avoid dead bedrooms forever, and instead of being like “oooh, this is some good info I should be learning. Let me pick your brain so that I have a better understanding of this” he’s just like “women are stupid and I know everything”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:09 PM
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My dude, if you learn to be confidently vulnerable about it, it will actually be a good thing for many women. SOME will still reject you. But the confidence of “I’m a virgin, but it doesn’t fuck with my self esteem. I just haven’t met the right person yet” can be sexy to many women, especially women that want a more serious relationship. That kind of comfort in yourself means you’re probably the type of guy who will listen and be attentive in bed and actually try to do what she wants instead of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:52 AM
3

I’m a big fan of casual sex. I don’t praise it. I just like it If you don’t like it, don’t do it. Doesn’t bother me, and I don’t judge you for it as long as you’re not forcing me to live the way you live
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:45 AM
1

Everyone’s allowed to have their beliefs I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:43 AM
-1

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that feeling by itself. It’s WHY many dudes have that feeling that make it incel-ish. If it’s just you wanting to stick to your preference/what you’re attracted to, that’s fine. If you’re judging other people for the way they want to live or it’s stemming from some deep-rooted resentment towards women, it’s not fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:42 AM
1

I don’t really care about n count
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:03 PM
6

There’s definitely a strong correlation between “countries with the best competitive gamers in the world” and “not having a lot of sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 03:02 AM
1

It is a test. You are offering a split, and he, in good faith, is assuming that you’re being truthful and wanting to split the bill. The test is essentially “assume that what I’m saying and what I’m doing are two different things”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 07:44 PM
1

I disagree. I think when you’re young and more insecure, you’re more likely to do that as well as similar behaviors. As you get older, you just realize that it makes more sense to weed incompatible people out up front. I also think there’s a difference between waiting to see if he’ll pay or not and actively offering to split as a test. I typically pay for dates. Not really purely because of chivalry, but because I was taught to not split checks. It’s just classy. But if she offers to split, I as…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:33 PM
1

I agree that you shouldn’t force people into relationships who aren’t compatible. Where we disagree is your approach. I believe just being straightforward and honest about what you’re looking for is the healthiest long-term approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:24 PM
1

I don’t want a girl to suck my dick unless she wants to. But I’m not going to be like “I’m cool with no blowjobs happy to be blowjobless” and then dump her because she didn’t suck my dick. To be clear, I’m not criticizing just you. Both men and women, especially younger, more immature people, tend to not communicate what they want. And it turns dating into a shit show most of the time. If you want a chivalrous guy who pays for everything, just be up front about that. If you want a more feminist-…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:29 PM
2

But why not just be honest about what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:02 PM
8

Respectfully, that’s very manipulative. There’s nothing wrong with wanting a guy to pay for the first date. But being deceitful as some sort of test is such a dishonest tactic, and it really sets a shitty tone for the entire relationship. Just say what you want. Be honest and straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:25 PM
1

Man here. Wouldn’t bother me. I mean, I’d ideally want to be able to make my own money. I value my independence. But I am fine with her paying for her and me paying for me. Sometimes, I’d take the bill as a gift. Sometimes she’d do the same. Way too much thought goes into this for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:23 PM
2

Just because it’s on the rise doesn’t mean that it’s going to be anything close to the majority. No need to be a doomsayer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 03:20 PM
9

Then swipe left. There are plenty of other fish for both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:28 PM
15

Maybe they are open to a relationship OR something casual depending on the situation. I’m sure things could be worded better, but if you specifically want a ONS, I’d just swipe left on them and save yourself some time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:46 AM
22

Just because she doesn’t want a ONS doesn’t mean she is looking for a relationship. Some people are fine with FWB or a short term fling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:18 AM
6

“Most men don’t approach because approaching isn’t getting them laid all that often” It’s almost like it’s a skill that they aren’t good at and need to keep doing in order to improve at
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:13 PM
5

How do women depend on us for survival?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:21 PM
4

Within 20 years, “men’s labor” won’t even be relevant because it will all be robots doing those jobs. Society has evolved past anybody needing to benefit from “men’s labor” Either adapt or get left behind. That’s your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:19 PM
9

Women still like sex and companionship. We aren’t useless to them. The difference is they don’t literally depend on us for survival. Now, relationships actually have to be a real partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:17 PM
7

When a girl says “you’re cute”, it’s actually complicated. Girls will make a snap judgement about your looks, but ultimately, your vibe makes you way more or less attractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:52 PM
4

Because guys need to self improve in different ways. Dudes try to just be hot, but in reality, being charismatic and charming and funny is actually what gets you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:45 PM
4

There are advantages and disadvantages to lying and telling the truth. I can say this - if you are 100% confident in yourself, you can pull off being a virgin or inexperienced. You will face some rejection, but you can pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:27 AM
-2

Just broke up with a gf of 4.5 years yesterday morning. Made a tinder yesterday afternoon. Got laid last night. Idk man, maybe most dudes just have shit game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:07 PM
3

Honestly, despite the negative sentiments I have towards that book and the culture it sparked, I genuinely believe all men and women should read it. If nothing else, it’s a fucking fascinating story
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:59 PM
0

You ever read the game? Those guys definitely had a very red pill mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:52 PM
2

I think a lot of TRP and old school PUA comes from a place of resentment towards women. They resent women for rejecting them in middle/high school and maybe college. They resent women for having easier access to sex. They resent women for liking guys that often fit their perception of “douche bag” They slut shame because it gives them the feeling of power over women. They feel like since it’s easy to get sex, women should be shamed for having it when it’s not in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:45 PM
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Could be. I actually think it’s more lie TRP is similar to old school PUA in attitude - they kinda get it but not really. One of my favorite examples you see from both schools of thought is not immediately texting a girl back to make it seem like you don’t care. They say to do that because they think girls like guys who aren’t interested. It’s not lack of interest. It’s lack of neediness. The veterans understand that by becoming a non-needy person, you can text back as quickly or slowly as you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:43 PM
3

A lot of them aren’t “secretly” married. Neil Strauss is happily married, monogamous, and has a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:40 PM
2

He hasn’t taught PUA in over a decade. His last book is literally about how much harm the PUA lifestyle can cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 03:39 PM
41

Nobody on either side will ever truly be able to understand how the other pressure feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:02 PM
15

“I’m still waiting for someone to actually refute the data” You mean like all of the posts in here that either provide their own studies or point out a misinterpretation of the sources you cited?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:46 PM
7

He’s not a troll. Just an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:43 PM
2

Still haven’t given me a single example of how you can tell lol It’s almost like…you don’t actually have any or something
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:01 PM
2

You made up the idea that you can tell based on body language. You can’t actually tell based on body language. If you could, you’d give me examples because nothing would bring you more joy than proving me wrong right now. But you can’t. Because you made that point up. Why don’t you just admit it bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:48 PM
2

I grasp that concept. What I’m saying, as somebody whose girlfriend has 7 years of sobriety from alcohol strictly through the AA program, is that alcohol makes you do things deep down you truly wanted to do while sober. It doesn’t change the core of who you are. A girl who sleeps around while drunk but not while sober WANTS to sleep around sober but is too scared to do so. Alcohol lowers your inhibitions. It doesn’t change your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:44 PM
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People’s values change. What they want out of life changes. That doesn’t necessarily mean they were bad people. I have a hypothesis - most dudes in here only actually resent girls with high n counts because they weren’t the ones getting laid by said high n count girls. Everybody dude in here claims they got all of the casual sex they ever wanted, but nobody really believes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:42 PM
2

You think because I do toastmasters as a hobby that I don’t have a real job? You’re saying all of this to feel like you still have a sense of authority, but the reality is that you just can’t back up your claim, and your ego is going apeshit trying to defend itself now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:38 PM
1

No, you’re misinterpreting what I’m saying. Alcohol doesn’t change who you are. It makes you more true to yourself. If you get wasted and say a bunch of racist statements, it’s a clear indication that deep down, you are truly a racist person who is good at hiding it while sober. If a girl gets drunk and sleeps around, she always wanted to sleep around but was afraid to do so while sober. A girl who doesn’t want to sleep around isn’t going to suddenly start sleeping around while drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:10 PM
0

You know how I can tell dudes in here don’t actually have any experience sleeping with women? Because they don’t understand that what I described above actually is the process for getting into a relationship. Nobody meets somebody and immediately is like “I want to pursue a relationship with that person”. Dudes who don’t understand how to vibe with people, enjoy their company, and live in the moment because they have to analytically break down everything think it’s like that, but it’s not. You m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:08 PM
1

It’s funny how this is a debate thread, and now you’re completely avoiding the actual topic at hand. Are you going to actually back up your claim that you can tell by her body language if she’s a hoe, or are you going to admit that you just said that shit to defend a position you hold based purely on emotion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:03 PM
1

Alcohol makes you do/say things you always wanted to do. It lowers inhibitions. It doesn’t make somebody who is demisexual suddenly want all of her holes plugged simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:01 PM
2

Oh look, you’re trying to be condescending in order to deflect away from the actual argument. I don’t claim to be a PhD level expert on body language. But unless you’ve spent the last 3 years studying the way it affects communication, I’d imagine I understand the topic a whole lot more than you. Now if you don’t mind, please do tell - what body language signals does a girl send that say “I’ve fucked a lot of dudes?”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:56 AM
1

Boy you act like you’re just picking out ONS left and right. Anybody who is actually getting laid understands that it just doesn’t work like that. You meet somebody, you vibe with them, you hook up, but recognize that one of you isn’t in the right place for a relationship or that you’re just not compatible for a relationship but still physically attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:47 AM
0

100 religious girls lmao. I went to a Christian private school growing up. I also worked at a club for over a year in college as a security guard. People who grow up super religious go wild once they see some freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:45 AM
2

As a dude who used to work security for night clubs, the % of dudes who are going home with girls they met that night is extraordinarily low. Most girls go together, dance together, maybe dance with a few dudes, and then leave together. Like 90%+ Chodey dudes get intimidated by clubs because they don’t understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:43 AM
1

I’m basing it off of the conversation ITT There’s a claim that “you can just tell” when somebody has a high n count based on their behavior. I’m asking how hearing a girl talk about her sexual escapades isn’t the same thing as determining her n count based on behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:36 AM
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Yeah, and it’s also hilarious to see all of these dudes stumble over themselves trying to come up with a reason to justify their positions. Idgaf how many dudes someone has been with and would have no idea how to tell. Also, anybody thinks that a 27 year old or a 35 year old is the same person that they were when they were 18 and figuring it all out is narrow minded and probably just young and lacking life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:35 AM
1

Sure. But then surely you can provide me some actual examples of behaviors that are a giveaway, being that you have so much experience
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:33 AM
2

The body language reference is funny because I’m a toastmaster and actually study body language, vocal tonality, and voice inflection. What specific body language communications say “i have a high n count?” Definitely never read about hoe body language in any textbook lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:32 AM
1

You believe that girls who go to clubs a lot or drink a lot are always high n count?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:30 AM
0

No. I’m a dude. It’s a debate, and im calling a bluff
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:29 AM
2

Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:28 AM
0

Ok so tell me some of the clues
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:07 AM
-5

Sure. Name me some identifiable traits that have nothing to do with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:34 AM
-5

Nope. Assuming that they weren’t allowed to talk to you about their past sexual history, not a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:29 AM
12

Yeah no If we put 100 women in front of you, and you had the chance to spend 30 minutes with each of them, you would not be able to tell with a high degree of accuracy which ones were high n count and which ones weren’t. You THINK you would, but you wouldnt
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:26 AM
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This is a really good point. Men talk about how women with high body counts are toxic, but they wouldn’t actually be able to accurately distinguish between a high n count girl and a low n count girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:07 AM
3

All due respect, the kings analogy is absurd. We’re not talking about murdering dissidents and making decisions that cause entire classes of people to starve to death. It’s not an abuse of power. That’s a crazy over exaggeration. It’s a normal human trying to do the best for themselves. If you want, you can become a better option. Or not. That’s the beauty of this life - it’s your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:37 PM
10

You’re missing the point. Men here are salty because women who have options are too picky and don’t value loyalty. Men are the same way. There’s just less of us who have options. It’s not a woman thing. It’s a human thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:36 PM
0

No. A lot of dudes online talk about body count being indicative of being a shitty person. Guys who actually are getting laid have enough social skills to be able to tell if somebody is a shitty person by talking to them, not by asking them a specific question. I don’t need to know how many guys a girl has slept with to know that she is a bad potential partner after I’ve seen how she treats the waiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:53 AM
1

Sure. I agree. But it’s like this. A girl who is 300 lbs isn’t exercising and cooking healthy meals because of her mental illness/whatever other situations or reasons she gives is still unattractive. Doesn’t mean she deserves to be bullied, but she also has no right to complain about her lack of dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:50 PM
2

Maybe. I’m pretty convinced that based on your points of view, those mindsets do apply to you. I could be wrong. I could be right. I’m basing this off of a lot of personal experience as somebody who used to have that mindset and learned to adapt a healthier one. Makes no difference to me, honestly. Only makes a difference to you. 99% of people don’t have the ability to be truly honest with themselves, and if that applies to you, it’s the one thing truly holding you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:50 PM
2

I want to address two points about your mindset that I believe is holding you back. Stop being outcome dependent and learn to live in the moment. “Looking for a relationship” is the wrong mindset and will end up making you be needy and co-dependent. Almost every relationship I’ve been in started off as a hookup, then turned into a FWB situation, then we just kinda realized that we liked each other enough that we didn’t have interest in other people. When you go into it thinking “I want to find t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:29 PM
1

Sorry dude but I don’t accept that. There are enough examples of people with the same issues you faced getting outta there. I’m not saying this to be mean. At that time, you weren’t correctly addressing your challenges, and as a result, you became a person who was unattractive. Now you’re addressing/have addressed those challenges, so you have the opportunity to be more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:22 PM
1

“The hook up culture in cities is not something most men want” Lol what? I live in a city and definitely am surrounded by dudes who love hookup culture
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:23 PM
1

I think it’s weird to ask that question. Don’t get me wrong - you should want somebody who brings something to the table. But if you feel like you need to ask, you already know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:23 AM
3

Living with your parents if you have a plan is different than just existing in your parents home. As an aspiring entrepreneur, I regret not spending a few years living at home and saving money. But I agree that somebody just being a bum and living there without trying or working towards anything is pretty sad
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:55 AM
1

So? I want to sleep around with women. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:39 PM
3

You know those “we’ve been trying to reach you about your car’s extended warrantee” calls you get? Imagine if you got 10 of those a day, another 10 a day in your inbox, and when you ignored them, they insulted you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 08:12 PM
1

“Rules for thee but not for me” You’re probably not charismatic enough to be a politician, but you definitely have the right mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:31 PM
3

Nope. Nice try, but men cheat more in unmarried relationships, too https://hetexted.com/cheating-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:51 AM
3

Men are more statistically more likely to cheat in a marriage than women https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:39 AM
6

“People get to do something that I can’t so instead of just focusing on me I’m going to be bitter about it”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:35 AM
1

It confirms the idea that men on average are getting less and less fuckable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 01:06 AM
1

It’s just sex. Idk why people put sex on such a pedestal. It’s so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:17 PM
6

First of all, don’t let confirmation bias fool you - plenty of couples maintain thriving sex lives after years and years of marriage. Second of all, many times it’s the men who lose interest in sex. Sometimes it’s both. There are many reasons people lose sexual interest. Sometimes it’s just boredom with the same partner. Humans aren’t evolutionarily wired for monogamy, despite it being the most accepted arrangement. We get bored of the same person after a while. That doesn’t mean sex isn’t still…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:24 AM
1

I think some people just get sexually turned on by stuff like that. Just like some dudes like feet. To be clear - not all, or even most girls want hardcore domination like that. I do think most women like the man to take the lead, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 04:58 PM
11

Eh, I get why she’d think that. Most guys suck in bed. Not because of lack of talent, but because they think that stabbing her with their dick for 10 minutes is what girls need to get their rocks off. And they refuse to listen and freak out when she suggests they do something different. But that’s not necessarily “he doesn’t care about her” as much as “he is clueless in bed”. You can still like somebody as a person and be a bad lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:20 PM
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That’s kind of an overgeneralization there I’ve had a fair amount of hook ups, and I’ve always felt a connection with people I’ve hooked up with. Maybe not “I want to be in a relationship with you and explore the idea of you being my forever person”, but all of them I’ve thought “even if we weren’t banging, she’d still be cool to hang out with”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 01:46 PM
4

Preferences are fine. Implying that somebody has shitty values/low morals/is worth less/deserves less happiness is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:58 PM
1

Don’t send dick pics to anybody you haven’t already slept with. And even then, only if she asks. Women don’t get turned on the same way as men. A random and unexpected pic of your crotch just doesn’t do the same thing for women that it does for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:11 PM
1

The notion that women expect Gigachad is the most textbook example of cognitive dissonance. Guy sucks at flirting/socializing with women. Guy doesn’t want to acknowledge that the reason why he sucks with women is because he is lacking in a skill that he can improve in. Guy creates new cognition to avoid taking ownership and responsibility for his own failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:32 PM
1

Wait, wtf does that have to do with my response? You aren’t addressing the point I’m making. You’re attempting to set me up for a personal attack based on irrelevant information.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:55 PM
2

“Drowning and ice cream are both signs of confounding variables” Exactly. Have you ever considered that there are other variables when considering the correlation of “likeliness that they’ll cheat” and “# of prior sex partners”. This is why correlation =/= causation. There are always an infinite number of variables that could affect said correlation. “You can love sex and go at it every day with one partner” Some people like variety my dude. Some people don’t know what they like and go through a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 07:54 PM
1

“I met one or two black guys, and they were total dicks. So yeah, black people are all dicks” You see how stupid that sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:25 PM
1

“1 or 2” Dat sample size tho Bro, you can’t shape your entire perception of reality on 1-2 experiences (also, the fact that it’s one or two instead of specifically one or two makes me suspicious that you’re making this up, but let’s just assume you’re not) You wrong bro. 9 times out of 10, a girl will not cheat on somebody if she thinks he’s the absolute best she can do. There are exceptions, usually if a girl has severe mental health issues or attachment issues. But go over to r/adultery and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:16 PM
1

Correlation CAN be causation, but there is absolutely no world where you can only cite correlation and causal. Drownings go way up as ice cream sales go up. There is a very real, quantifiable relationship between those two things. That doesn’t mean that ice cream causes drownings. Basing a conclusion off of this information without exploring it further is bad practice. “Being promiscuous is never a sign of anything good” I mean bro, you just haven’t met cool ass girls who also happen to like cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:40 PM
1

No I wouldn’t lol. She’s not going to go from me to some loser when im the better choice. Again, this is why I believe your belief is rooted in insecurity. You know that 9/10 times, that girl wouldn’t be cheating on Ryan Reynolds. You fear that she’ll find a better option, and you want somebody who doesn’t know that better options exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:38 PM
1

That’s literally just not enough information for me to make that decision. I’ve said this at other points in this thread, but I’ll say it again - correlation does not equal causation. Sleeping with a bunch of people is correlated with a higher chance of cheating. It’s not the cause. It doesn’t automatically mean she’ll cheat. It definitely doesn’t mean she’s “unsatisfied”. I’ve slept with a lot of women. I’m not unsatisfied in my current relationship of 5 years, and I’ve never cheated once. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 02:37 PM
1

Correlation = causation arguments should be a bannable offense on a debate forum lol. People who are toxic or have a lot of trauma are more likely to sleep around. That doesn’t mean everybody who sleeps around is toxic or comes from trauma. Some people just have a high sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:52 AM
1

Would you rather: -A girl who had been with 50 men while single but never cheated -A girl who had been with 4 men, but 3 of them were cheating on her boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:04 AM
1

Sure. If I liked her and we vibed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:03 AM
1

I can easily go to the grocery store and buy gum. At what point should there be consequences for it? The answer is none as long as I’m not hurting anybody
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:04 PM
1

I’m not saying life or death situations are common. I’m saying that our instincts are largely based on primitive survival instincts because modern society hasn’t existed long enough for us to evolve past them You absolutely are allowed to have preferences. I’m trying to deduce WHY you have this double-standard-based preference. My hypothesis is that it’s rooted in insecurity (you feel that you can’t measure up to past partners) “Poor impulse control” lol what 19 year old doesn’t have poor impuls…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:23 PM
1

Bro who are you gonna fuck when there’s only 3 other dudes that aren’t your siblings? We’re talking about pre-human sapiens who didn’t have language and lives in caves with like 10 other people. Their biggest concerns were not starving to death and not getting eaten. You think they ever thought “man I can’t believe Betty banged chad, what a slut” Furthermore, we don’t see promiscuity ever as a factor in mating selection with other animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 05:25 PM
1

The issue problem with your argument is that when we developed these primal instincts, the concept of promiscuity didn’t exist because we lived in tiny tribes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 05:19 PM
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But we’re not talking about sleeping around while they’re with you. We’re talking about a sexually promiscuous past. There’s a difference. I don’t give a fuck about her past. Just like I sleep around outside of a relationship and stay loyal in one, she can do the same. I’m not threatened by past dudes because I know I’m better. And if I’m not, then I’ll fucking get better. And if I can’t, we were never compatible, and it’s best we go our separate ways. Anything less than that attitude is just so…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:45 PM
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Without using google, right now, tell me what issues she has if she’s more promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:41 PM
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Sure, but why is it gross? It’s a debate forum. Justify your position with something other than your feelings, or go to a different sub where the purpose isn’t literally to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:36 PM
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How is that the same thing though? We understand that psychologically, people are going to fear predators because fear of predators is/was a necessary survival trait. That same explanation doesn’t work here… The only logical explanation is that you are afraid that one day she’ll find somebody better than you and go with the better option. The only reason to feel that way is because you feel that you’re not a great option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:35 PM
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I’m very well aware of the issues with psych, but when normal people not in STEM or a related field use criticisms against it, it almost always comes from a place of massive misunderstanding. As a science, psych gets criticism because it’s not possible to 100% prove something beyond reasonable doubt the way you can with other sciences. There are aways outliers and variables that are impossible to control for. But that doesn’t invalidate it, and science still values psych. For example, look at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:33 PM
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I have a psych degree with a minor in sociology. Lmao, it’s literally not the red-headed stepchild in either field. It doesn’t have much clinical application (as in treating patients), but generally speaking, the only group of people who ardently oppose evolutionary psychology as a whole are religious people (due to not believing in evolution in the first place)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:09 PM
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This is literally just you imagining a scenario in your head. On a DEBATE forum, nobody is telling women to not defend their positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:06 PM
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There is a lot of evidence that evo psych is the primary driver of sexual attraction. I’d argue that the bulk of TRP’s attraction theory is based on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:03 PM
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That’s a cop out. You don’t HAVE to justify it, but you also can’t justify it if you try. This is a debate thread. You don’t HAVE to debate this topic. But while you’re here, I’m a debate forum, where justifying positions is literally the purpose of the forum, I’d say it’s highly recommended to…ya know…justify your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:02 PM
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So you’re worried about her cheating? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:01 PM
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You don’t have to be consciously thinking about it. You can’t come up with any real reason to feel like they don’t value themselves. What if they just have a high sex drive and value themselves enough to go after what they want? What if they felt a lot of pressure from their peers to sleep around? What if they just wanted to experiment to see what’s out there? Lots of sex partners does not just automatically = low self esteem. Low self esteem CAN be something that causes people to sleep around a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:22 PM
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One is physical and can be easily explained (he can’t protect her if a predator is attacking. Basic obvious lizard brain shit). The other can’t be explained other than “I don’t like it”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:17 PM
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Why would sleeping with a lot of people = not valuing yourself? You think Kim K or Kylie Jenner don’t value themselves? I’d say they are beyond narcissistic and value themselves more than anybody else in the world. Here’s the thing. Idgaf what your preferences are. You’re allowed to have them. But IMO, you need to be honest with yourself about these preferences. It’s threatening. It means she might have been with somebody really skilled, just like OP is implying. You’re worried about not measuri…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:12 PM
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I don’t love the idea of anal, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 06:38 PM
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Exciting bad guy isn’t what they like. It has qualities that they like. Strong guy who stands up for himself, enforces his boundaries, and goes after what he wants in life is what they want. Bad boy has those traits. But it’s entirely possible to be a nice dude and still have those traits. The problem with most “nice guys” isn’t their lack of “bad boy” it’s that they’re huge pussies that do everything they can to avoid any confrontation, even at their own expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:43 PM
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I suspect a lot of those posts are lying or exaggerating their accomplishments, but dudes with no social skills are going to struggle no matter what else they have going on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:40 PM
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Sure. But I also think that the personality type of somebody sitting here writing essays analyzing something like this is just typically (and I’m sure you’re an exception) the type of dude who generally overthink and over analyze dating and attraction. Overthinking and overanalyzing shit will always be unattractive. Just be a fun dude who is working towards things in life. That’s it. No more thinking necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:16 PM
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This type of overanalyzing shit is why dudes struggle with getting laid. Like it’s so clear that a conversation with you would be boring and immediately and always turn into some debate or regurgitation of facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 03:09 PM
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I was right in high school and shifted left after college. Turns out that peer reviewed scientific data is pretty compelling to someone who isn’t married to their opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:59 PM
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The fact that you think this says so much about you and why you are struggling with women my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:25 PM
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Dudes be like “I’m not sexist for thinking women shouldn’t sleep around”. Literally, you’re saying that one gender shouldn’t be able to do something, but it’s okay for the other gender. That’s the definition of sexism. If you think all people shouldn’t sleep around, you get a pass. That’s your life, and as long as you hold yourself to the same standard, you’re allowed to look for somebody else with similar values…but if you judge people because they live life differently, you’re an asshole. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:03 PM
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They’ll give all sorts of reasons, but the reality is that they’re intimidated by a girl that has enough experience to know if a guy sucks in bed or not. They’d rather have a girl that will never know the difference than be challenged to get better
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:19 PM
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Really? You think if Willie Nelson shows up to a party people see him as low status? Lacking control over your life is low status. Most people who live in rural areas are low status because they don’t have a choice - they have no marketable skills, so they’re forced into working in farms/factory’s/other manual labor jobs. Other times, they are just intimidated by larger cities because rural life is all they grew up on and never traveled or experienced anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:35 PM
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RIP Trevor Moore the GOAT
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:33 PM
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The red pill has like an almost understanding, but it comes from a place of insecurity. Easy example - TRP tells you to intent is only delay responding to a text so that you don’t appear needy. Stop fucking trying to “appear” anything. Start trying to become something. If you’re busy, don’t text back until you’re not busy. If you’re not busy, just fucking text back. Stop overthinking shit and overanalyzing things that don’t need to be overanalyzed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:58 PM
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Mmm, I’d say it’s not as much living in a rural area as much as being a rural person. I work from home. If I happened to enjoy dirt biking and shit, I’d live in a rural area. But I’m not some small minded hick, I’d just prefer isolation. It’s the small-minded “get yer werk boots on” people that have lowered status.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:52 PM
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Literally call them out on it. Right in front of the girl(s), just be like “bro, you never act like this except when girls are around? Why are you trying so hard to impress them? Which one are you trying to bang? Watch him never ever do that shit to you ever again after that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:48 PM
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Nobody likes a grapist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:45 PM
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Other reasons women may have a high n count: *They went through a phase *They just have a really high sex drive and are adventurous *They explored their sexuality when they were younger to figure out what they liked There are like infinite other possible reasons for a high n count than “girl has a fuck ton of trauma that will carry over to the present”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:14 PM
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Hell no. I want somebody who knows their body well enough to be able to have an orgasm. Having sex with a virgin feels like it would be something I’m doing to somebody, not with somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:20 PM
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Yeah I mean at some point, you have to give her an ultimatum. Offer to help her get more confident in her body (work out with her, help her meal prep, etc), but at the end of the day, if she refuses to put in the work, it’s fair for you to ditch the relationship or at least ask for an affair partner/open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:48 AM
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There are three types of men. 1 - dudes who will just always suck with women 2 - red pill dudes who will basically base everything they do in life around getting laid because for some reason that’s the only thing that brings them validation 3 - cool dudes who are driven because they’re goal oriented, naturally-likeable dudes This isn’t going to change any time soon. Red pill is not taking over. It helps 19 year olds bang dumb party girls, and simultaneously prevents those dudes from keeping any …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:46 AM
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It absolutely could be your wife, but people lose interest in fucking people they’re not attracted to. If you stopped being attractive to her, it could be your fault (or not if she had like depression or just is the type of person that gets bored easily) Great book recommendation: Open Her by Karen Brody
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:58 PM
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I agree with the premise of OP. I disagree that it’s always or even usually women’s fault if the sex dies out. It can be, but a lot of the time sex starts waning in relationships, the dude has cut his effort by like 90%
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:50 PM
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I think most people (both genders) would agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:46 PM
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I mean you just invite your friends to do stuff. That’s how you become close. Repeatedly doing fun shit together builds connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:59 AM
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I’m 33. I do BJJ and am involved in toastmasters. I moved to a new city a year ago and am still making new friends thanks to these activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:46 AM
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The idea that you can’t get a new social circle after college is horse shit spewed by dudes who are too afraid to try. Find hobbies. It’s really that easy. Join a BJJ club or CrossFit. Join toastmasters club or a BNI. You make new friends by getting involved in activities that attract like-minded people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:45 AM
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Be intelligent and educated. Work hard to stay in shape and look good. Be genuine in your sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 11:08 AM
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They’re not actually trying as hard as they think/claim they are
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:38 AM
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Dude, this is why you don’t get laid I’m not saying this to be mean. Literally, this is the shit that keeps your dick dry. You can use this information however you please.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:33 PM
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I mean, this is a debate forum. What you’re looking for is peer reviewed sociology/psychology studies. Also, nothing I said was political lol. I’m not trying to change the way anybody votes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:46 PM
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Nobody’s forcing anybody into a hoe phase. Some women sleep around. Some prefer monogamy. Some don’t realize they want monogamy until they’ve slept around a bit. Some don’t realize they prefer sleeping around until they’ve been in a bad LTR. All of these things are acceptable. Just be honest about what you want so that you can weed out the people who aren’t compatible with your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:51 AM
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He did though. We were on a birthright trip to Israel. We covered a lot of emotionally intense subjects, including the Holocaust, modern anti-demotion, etc. Just about everybody in the group cried during the Holocaust museum. Even now, the girls in our WhatsApp group are taking about how sexy they thought he was. Showing emotional vulnerability is fine. Being a huge pussy isn’t. Nobody was going to think that guy was a pussy just because he showed emotional vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:37 PM
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You’re kinda right, but also kinda wrong. It’s not a primal sexual trigger, but being a strong masculine man who is also nice will always be better than being a strong masculine man who isn’t nice. I actually just got back from a trip to Israel. I was on a birthright trip with 40 people. Our security guard was only like 5 foot 7, but just emulated healthy masculinity. But he was also the nicest fucking guy on the planet. Actually read a poem to our group on our last day that brought us all to te…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:45 PM
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I’m a man. I’m decently high N - probably not like too crazy but I’d assume I’m above average. I dont care about n count on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:03 PM
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I just went on a huge group vacation with 40 people I didn’t know prior to the vacation. The guy who got laid the most also cried when we left. You can show emotion. You need to have healthy emotions and not be a needy pussy who flips out the moment something threatens your ego. You can be nice as long as you’re not a pussy. The problem with the “nice guy vs jerk” debate is that most dudes just don’t realize that it’s not about being a jerk. It’s about having and radiating attractive, masculine …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:54 AM
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I don’t think they’re lying. They’re just not typically great at explaining it to a gender that sees the world from such a different point of view. For example, the classic “nice guy” thing. Women absolutely want a guy who is nice. But they also want that guy to have a strong sense of healthy masculinity - sets/enforces boundaries, confident, quick-witted, stands up for himself, etc. Guys hear “be nice” and then become cringe lords who try and do every nice thing they can without possessing any …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:50 AM
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My favorite is “people who read books are fucking idiots”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:05 AM
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He’s a douche bag and there are lots of douche bags in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:04 AM
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“Going on a dating app as a woman is kind of like having a fully stocked fridge, but all the food is expired” More options doesn’t mean better experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:07 AM
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“Every guy who has success with women outside of celebrities and politicians are red pilled ” No the fuck they’re not lmao. You can’t just call any guy who dresses well, works out, and works to better himself a TRPer. 99% of “high value” men older than 23 think red pill is cringe as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:14 PM
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Without the life experience, independence, and networking you gain from being out on your own, it will be incredibly difficult to expand on your parents wealth when you inherit it. Plus, do you really want to wait until you’re in your 40s/50s before you get to start living your life? Anybody can be a retired millionaire by age 30 if they’re really willing to work and plan. I can’t tell you how to live my dude. But I’ve given you my advice as somebody who is older and has seen people go down your…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:02 PM
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“The juice is not worth the squeeze” Right, it’s not if the ONLY reason you’re doing those things is because you want pussy. Pussy should be a side benefit of doing those things. I bust my ass at my job to earn 6 figures because I want complete control over my life. I want to be able to say I did it. Because I enjoy feeling like I made a sale and take pride in my work and accomplishments. I work out because I train BJJ and love the sport and want to win tournaments because winning tournaments fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 02:22 PM
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Bro, you are unattractive to women because you’d prefer to live off mom’s nipple than make something of yourself. Girls will take a dude in his own dumpy apartment over a dude in his mom’s rich house any day. Girls will take a dude in his own 2009 Honda Accord over his dad’s BMW any day. Once again, I don’t mean this to insult, but to inspire - you need to work towards becoming your own man. Attraction is primal. A dude who can’t fend for himself is telling her primal brain that if we were hunte…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 01:35 PM
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Dude, the problem is you want everything now without having to work for anything. First of all, if you’re like 18-19, no chick expects you to have your own place. But you 100% can move into an apartment with roommates. The issue is that you’ve centered your whole identity and sense of self worth around getting laid and are neglecting g other areas of your life. Ironically, that makes you way less attractive. It should feel good to be getting your own place. It should feel good to have friends wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:31 PM
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You’ll probably have better luck at bars/clubs than dates for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:11 AM
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I think being able to confidently state your intentions early in is crucial here. You will get rejected by some, but you’d be surprised at how many girls are fine with casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:57 AM
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Most of those dudes got dad bods by the time they were 25-27 lol If all you’re looking for is casual, being well dressed and having really good social skills is definitely enough. Find you a few good bars, maybe learn how to dance if you prefer clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:44 AM
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My dude, if you make enough money to be stable and buy a house, you have good social skills, and you are in okay shape, you can 100% find a wife that’s attractive and start a family with her. I grew up in a small town. Plenty of dudes from my town are firefighters and welders and brick masons with a pretty attractive wife. They all got married by like 24 and have 2-4 kids now though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:30 AM
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Why is it that you feel like things like getting in shape and making a lot of money are only things worth doing for the purpose of getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:18 AM
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This right here makes me think that you’re trying to “go by the book” instead of just vibing and connecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 08:32 PM
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They literally only do that as a response to slut shaming. If you don’t want them to do that, don’t judge them for having a sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:01 PM
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Still the same thing. I’m not saying you have to join a frat. I’m saying that going to frat parties makes it crystal clear that girls go for guys that are well liked and well groomed over just good looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:59 PM
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“The guys who usually get laid are the clueless hot guy” Nah. Maybe when your 16 years old. By the time you get to college and witness a few frat parties, you realize that being well liked and charismatic goes way further than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:23 PM
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“Sex is like oxygen…it’s only a big deal if you’re not getting any” is such a cliche statement, but so true. When your entire identity and sense of self worth is based on your ability or lack thereof to get laid, it makes it so difficult for you to just be a cool dude that vibes with people. And cool dudes that vibe with people get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:51 PM
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Be good at accepting rejection and you will be okay. If you literally can just adopt the attitude of “if she rejects me, it’s okay, and I hope she has a good day anyway” I’m telling you, you will send off good vibes that make people more receptive to your approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:29 PM
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These kinds of threads always bug me because the entire debate is rooted in generalization. The correct answer is “some do, some dont. Everybody is different”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:06 PM
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I would say both genders have a lack of empathy towards the others struggles, and that’s a huge reason why subs like this exist
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:40 PM
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Sales for a digital marketing firm. Sales is mostly male, but digital marketing is probably like 65% female.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:06 PM
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Here’s the thing though - dudes that have better social skills are also more likely to dress well and groom themselves better, making them better looking. They do this because they understand the social nuances of things like that. But at the end of the day, being socially savvy gets you so far ahead in life…not even just with women. You’re less likely to get screwed in a deal. More likely to advance your career. More likely to get away with a lesser punishment if you commit a crime. Developing …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:54 PM
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Socialization is not tricky. Don’t assume that you’re automatically better and smarter than everybody else, and be willing to be vulnerable so that you can connect with real people. I’m not just shaming somebody for no reason. This dude’s entire premise to his argument is that he’s so intellectually superior to everybody in the entire world that he just can’t relate to anybody. His issue is literally that he’s a huge asshole. I can’t put it any nicer than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:51 PM
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Yeah I mean it sounds like you are just a narcissistic prick my dude. I’m not even saying it to be mean, I just literally can’t put it any other way. You have some god complex that’s ironically making you a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:13 PM
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You’re right, but being social awkward and good looking < being average or even slightly below average with great social skills AND on top of that, you can improve social skills over time There’s just no excuse to struggle with women because it’s 100% your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:24 PM
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I mean, honestly, it’s okay to approach women. Just accept that some won’t like you, and be willing to respectfully take no for an answer. If you are willing to take no for an answer, even if you’re momentarily making her uncomfortable, you’re not creepy. If you approach a chick and she shuts you down, respond with “no worries, I hope you have a good day.” You are proving her creep vibes wrong by doing that, and as weird as it sounds, you’ll start having more success with women if you’re willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 01:36 PM
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Let me clarify - you’re 100% within your rights to have preferences. But I also want to clear up that stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 01:10 PM
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I do. It was a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:42 AM
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You have a source to back that up? I truly believe you’re just assuming based on a mental idea of what you’d imagine these guys personalities to be. Boxers may be a bit different. I don’t know the boxing community around me very well. MMA and especially Jiu Jitsu is actually a pretty nerdy community.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:47 AM
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Winning 100 Gs is a cause
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:38 AM
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Define “uncommon” I’m sorry dude, but your few cases out of thousands and thousands of fighters is literally just a case of confirmation bias. I’ve been training BJJ for 16 years. I’m extremely active in the community in my entire city. I know everybody who is brown belt+, am very well networked with local ammy and pro fighters, and I’m telling you from a TON of very real insight that you’re 100% wrong. Yes, there are some bad eggs, but those are the very small minority. If you think about the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:36 AM
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I can tell you very confidently that BJJ is a sport for nerds, and meatheads don’t fit into that environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:32 AM
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That’s not nearly a big enough sample size to form that kind of opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:30 AM
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This is absolutely not true. I am deeply involved in the MMA community in my city and know nearly everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:29 AM
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False. The only dudes like that are dudes saying they’re MMA fighters, but don’t really train.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:28 AM
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I’m a black belt in BJJ and had some amateur fights when I was younger. I think your stereotypes are honestly pretty off. The personality types you think get into MMA never get into MMA. They try MMA, get destroyed in their first practice by a guy half their size, and never come back. Nothing humbles you faster than training legitimate martial arts. For competitors, it’s not about wanting to hurt somebody. It’s just a sport that we like to participate in. We enjoy the game of trying to dodge pun…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:26 AM
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BJJ black belt here - were way more chill than outsiders think we would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:21 AM
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Being average is a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:01 AM
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So lets break this down. Sorry for my formatting. Using mobile and dont know how to use the quote feature on mobile. “Women like men who are dominant” Women like men who aren’t pushovers. This doesn’t have to mean they are dominant or controlling. It does mean you have to be willing to set and enforce boundaries. “Dominant” men are usually willing to do this, which is why women tend to date these kinds of guys. It’s not the “dominant” aspect that they’re attracted to, however. Analyzing it from …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 06:22 PM
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Confident is not the same thing as assholeness. An asshole can be confident, but you can be confident without being an asshole. What I’m saying is that while the TRP way can work, there are better ways that will get you better results, and also don’t require you to be a shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 06:51 PM
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TRP doesn’t understand how women want to be treated. That was the original point I was making. They think women want to be treated like crap because they see women dating guys who treat them like crap. My point is that they aren’t dating those guys because they treat them that way…they’re dating them despite the fact that they treat them that way because those guys tend to have traits that are desirable. My post describes those traits. You can be a leader who enforces and maintains his boundarie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 01:57 PM
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So the experiment shows that they are considered, on average, to be less attractive. I still don’t think that equals “can’t be attractive”. Do you think women would choose Chris Farley over Vin Diesel? Everybody except for a very lucky few are going to have some traits that are considered less attractive. Some dudes will be shorter. Some dudes will have high pitched voices. Some dudes will have crippling social anxiety. Some will have crooked noses, beady eyes, and some will have male pattern ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 01:54 PM
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This is a debate forum. Yes. Your perception is that it’s widely agreed upon. I’m challenging your claim. Proper debate form is to back up your claim with a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 08:35 PM
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Somebody who is an evolutionary biologist would tell you it’s not bad boys specifically…it’s certain traits that they’re more likely to possess. Standing up for yourself, maintaining and enforcing boundaries, willingness to pursue things he wants in life, decisiveness. All of these things essentially trigger the primal brain’s need for a protector. You can possess these traits without being a “bad boy”. You can be a total geek and still possess these traits. TRP is created under the idea that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 05:45 PM
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Your own personal anecdotal experience is not something that constitutes as proof my dude. Listen bro. This is something people don’t understand. If you’re getting bullied for something, it’s not truly about that something. If it weren’t baldness, it would be something else. People get bullied because they have shown others that they lack the ability to set and enforce boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 11:59 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 08:14 AM
1

Vulnerability is good. Being an emotional wreck is not. If you are an emotional wreck, you need to learn to be more comfortable with yourself and work on your self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 04:00 PM
1

It depends on the situation. People change as they get older. People’s preferences change. If she did that stuff because she was trying it and decided she didn’t like it, I would understand If she did that stuff and liked it but feels like she wouldn’t like it with me, it would hurt and make me wonder if she thinks I’m not good enough for certain things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:14 PM
1

Save this post. Reach back out to me in a few years when nothing is working. I’ll be more than happy to offer advice and give you some legitimate help. You’re stubborn. You’re going to have to fall hard and hit rock bottom before you realize I’m right. Good luck my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 02:07 PM
1

If you’re as thirsty/desperate as you seem, you won’t get laid even if you are a master bullshitter lmao. Sex is like oxygen. It’s only a big deal if you aren’t getting any. It’s so clear that you’re a virgin who has severe self esteem issues based solely on the fact that you’ve show that literally nothing in your life is important to you other than getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 02:05 PM
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It’s really not lol. It’s hard for losers who haven’t accomplished anything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:57 PM
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“Women like older men” Women like successful, charismatic older men. Some chubby, socially awkward bum who hasn’t ever accomplished a real thing in his life won’t get laid. Ever. You’ll bang 19 year old alcoholics until you’re 30 and then fade into nothingness. It’s a free country. And you can do whatever you want, but if you think you’ll be drowning in pussy at 30+ without putting the work in, you’re out your damn mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:53 PM
2

Stop trying to cheat the system and actually make something of yourself. You may get some cheap, easy pay being a bullshitter, but I promise you by the time you hit 30, it all catches up to you, and you’re just cringe. I remember from college there was this dude who did exactly what you’re doing. I promise you that you don’t want to go that route. Focus on learning skills that can make you money. Learn to develop real self confidence instead of “fake it till you make it”. Hit the gym and get in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:38 PM
1

That’s a loser attitude bro
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:33 PM
1

Don’t display yourself is higher. Become higher. Trying to give off the appearance that you’re accomplished and successful is a path towards being a broke, lonely 40 year old dude with nothing in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:33 PM
1

“It is a myth that most women…” Based on your specific anecdotal experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:45 AM
1

I do believe there is a relation. Everybody is different, but I think it is a strong factor for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:30 PM
1

It’s not an equivalency equation. It’s a flow chart. Suppressing emotions -> overreacting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 09:47 AM
0

This right here is the thought process that is destroying men. We are conditioned to suppress our emotions under the guise of masculinity. This suppression leads to emotional explosions and inability to connect. It is entirely possible to be a strong man that sets and enforces boundaries, but also be emotionally vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:53 PM
1

“Not everybody knows what they are doing at that stage” True, but you should be exploring/trying new things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:39 PM
0

You actually get close to women and start hooking up with them, and you just know it’s not true. Even the most gorgeous chicks on the planet are insecure. It only seems like they’re arrogant to drydicks who are intimidated by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:52 PM
4

Ever read “Models” by Mark Manson? Women don’t react negatively towards that. It’s not “discussing their behavior” that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:00 AM
1

The point is whatever you make it to be. But some people are driven to achieve and be the best version of themselves because that in itself is gratifying. Some people are driven to achieve because they want to impress others. The first is internal validation. The second is external validation. Internally validated people are much more likely to achieve the success they’re driven towards. TRP is based in external validation, which is its biggest flaw. The best way to find success is to learn to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:38 PM
2

If the reason for his self-development is to mask insecurity instead of a genuine desire to better himself, he’s probably redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:02 PM
1

I think going out for the sole purpose of getting chicks often makes it much harder for you to get chicks. Even if you’re in an environment like that where you are more advantageous. Learning to just have fun and live in the moment is the best way to be more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:03 PM
1

It’s a fringe group that’s out of touch with reality, just like TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:03 PM
1

FDS is just as cringe as TRP to normal people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:18 PM
1

I’m with a traditional gal. I miss chasing casual sex tbh. But I love the fuck out of her and shes basically my best friend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:15 PM
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This. One can work out and work hard towards a career and also not think that women are evil beings sent from hell to suck the life out of you and the divorce you and take it all. These things are not mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:00 AM
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Both FDS and TRP are cringe. Normal, socially functioning people see that. They don’t because they turned to fringe groups when they were hurt and vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 10:59 AM
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Sweet anecdote brah
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 12:21 AM
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“An intelligent decision-maker knows that the past is the greatest indicator of the future” I drank a lot when I was 19. Is it safe to assume I still drink a lot? When I was 12, I spent every Monday and Friday night watching WWE. Is it safe to assume I still do? You must be very young. Definitely not old enough to realize just how much people change as they mature. I’m 32. What I want out of life today is so absurdly different than what I wanted 5 years ago, and that’s so absurdly different than…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:46 PM
3

It’s okay to have insecurities. It’s not okay to let them run your life. I’m insecure about things. At appropriate times, I’m vulnerable about them with my girlfriend. I don’t come storming into a first date whining about how my nose is too big.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:59 PM
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Instantly throwing out “white knight” any time somebody is blue pill like you know my motivations is such a lazy way to argue. “While all she has to do is not be fat” Ok, so? What does that have to do with you? Who cares who has it easier? Some men have it easier than other men, too. Do you cry about them, also? Focusing on how life is unfair is such a pussy ass mindset that prevents you from ever reaching your potential. Successful people don’t care about what others are doing or how easily oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:31 AM
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Insecurity. They’ll come up with all of this other shit, but it’s insecurity. There are so many things I care about in terms of your past. Sexual past only matters to me if you harmed somebody (molested a kid or raped somebody or something). Who you are as an insecure 19 year old isn’t who you are as a 28 year old that knows himself/herself. Dudes that are obsessed over a chick’s past are just salty that they didn’t get casual sex when they were younger because they were riddled with social anxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:50 PM
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r/asablackman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:42 PM
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Everybody can find a desirable person if they’re willing to put in enough effort. For some people, that’s more effort than others, but I just don’t feel bad for people who whine about people’s standards being too high. The best version of everybody’s self can find an attractive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:45 PM
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Just saw his latest post response to me. Dude might actually be a pedophile so yeah not gonna respond anymore to him
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:44 PM
1

Imagine thinking I want to have sex with a 16 year old girl instead of laughing at how socially cringe you are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:26 PM
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It’s funny how every time somebody disagrees with one of you guys, instead of actually addressing the point, you play the white knight card. It’s your favorite “I don’t have an actual response but my entire identity is based on my perceived intelligence so I need a way to back out without feeling like I’ve lost” card.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:19 PM
1

There have been studies that most people rate people that look similar to them as more attractive. So even when rating people individually as the same, subconsciously, people tend to be more attracted to their own race because they look the same as each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:17 PM
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You are cringe lol This is like the textbook example of not socially “getting it” All of the blame and searching to find reasons for why women don’t like you that aren’t your fault…looks, height, women’s lack of intelligence, their attraction to bad people, etc. But that’s not it. It’s this. It’s u/chilumibrainrot being silly and you sitting there like the biggest nerd ever with this serious, analytical answer. The entire attitude behind your response says everything
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:00 PM
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Dude, if you think it’s that easy, move to Vegas and get it going lol. Prove us all wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:43 PM
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You don’t need skills to work a cash register or a hostess stand, either. Nobody who could do those things are going to start hooking unless they’re severe drug addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 01:40 PM
1

Only incels actually believe that your face makes you an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:25 PM
0

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:05 PM
1

They felt like bags of sand
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:23 PM
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No, not any dude who doesn’t want to date high N count women. Dudes who just obviously don’t “get it” socially because they lack experience. It’s obvious when somebody just has no social/sexual experience my dude. The way you’re talking is the equivalent of somebody referring to link as “Zelda” while talking about how they beat all of the Zelda games. It’s like somebody lying and saying they used to be a MMA fighter but then not knowing what guard is. Like y’all think you’re these super brain in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:17 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:30 PM
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It’s so obvious when a dude just doesn’t have the ability to get laid but posts as if he understands the way sexual interactions go down. You guys always create these polarized extremes for both genders, but in reality, most people getting laid are just normal, everyday people who don’t even think about sex all that much compared to all of the other things they’re doing. I have a theory that you think normal people aren’t getting laid because you think you’re a normal, average person…but the rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:26 PM
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You’re arguing with incels
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:21 PM
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Or, you know…they like sex and want to sleep with you because they are horny and want to fuck. I don’t understand why it always has to be some psychological game. She likes sex. She wants to see if you’re good in the sack to find out if you’re worth spending more time with or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:18 PM
2

They either figure it out or they become neckbeards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:57 PM
1

Dude, FDS is extremely radical, and even acknowledging their existence is unhealthy. Very few women in this world see FDS as serious advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:15 AM
1

Man you’re so stuck on this one quote dude. Are you in college? Go to a frat party and look at the dudes that get laid. Are you late 20s? Go to a dive bar or get hired for a large marketing firm and look who gets laid. Idk why you’re so stuck on this my dude. Idgaf what one quote says. Live life in reality. If you’d re doing nice things because you have nothing else of value to offer and you’re using those nice things as a bargaining chip to gain emotional or physical approval, you’re a huge pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:02 AM
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Justin Bieber was smashing pussy at 14 when he was singing “baby” and looked like an in the closet lesbian. You don’t understand what the quote means. You have to not be a pussy. That doesn’t mean you have to be some Jason Mamoa mother fucker to be attractive. Believe what you want bro. Perception is reality. I’m average height and never was some overly manly dude, and I did pretty damn well in college. I’ve seen skinny ass frat dudes wearing polos and short shorts crush way more vag than athlet…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:47 PM
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Action heroes make for the most entertaining movies. It’s not easy to believe that the Dothraki leader was a witty businessman who always knew the right things to say. That being said, I think you’re experiencing some confirmation bias here. There are plenty of sex symbols who weren’t the over-masculine badass archetype, both in fiction and in real life. Lip from Shameless, as I mentioned before. Stars like Leonardo DiCaprio and Justin Bieber and Pete Davidson. Don’t try to be something you’re n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 07:41 PM
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You see the aggressive side. To keep somebody around longer than a hookup, it has to be balanced with connection. I promise you that it’s very likely that people like Jason Mamoa still attempt to connect woth thr people they date. Only having that side can get you hookups with dumb party girls, but if you understand the bio-psychology behind why girls like guys like Jason Mamoa…it’s not JUST the aggressiveness. Don’t think of it as aggressor and think if it more as “protector”. Women are biologi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 04:48 PM
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It’s just false that they are attracted to men who lack vulnerability. Vulnerability is necessary for convection. They problem is that most red pill dudes basically spilled their guts in an i calibrated emotional vomit all at once to the first girl that barely showed them interest, and then when they got rejected, they think it’s because women just dislike anything that’s not an emotionally void, violent douchebag. They like strong, confident men who will also connect with them. You weren’t conn…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 04:35 AM
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You’re literally telling me that you don’t believe you’re worthy because of your height. You’ve been rejected a few times due to your height, and that’s warped your entire sense of self worth. I recommend reading up on some articles on rejection sensitivity. The best salesperson at my office is 5 foot 6, and I’ve met his wife. She’s gorgeous and extremely kind. They met in a hiking group and both have a passion for nature/hiking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:22 PM
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Dude, I’m average height. I have a gf I’m about to propose to. I got laid plenty before I dated her. Your social skills suck. That’s it. You have no charisma and social confidence. You are blaming women because it’s easier to do that than take personal responsibility. You’re talking out of your ego. You won’t listen to me or believe me, but it just factually is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:09 PM
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Dude, if you have a good paying job and are extremely fit, and you still feel like you have to put forth insane amounts of effort, you either have a piss poor social network, or you’re insanely socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:01 PM
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You think the only reason to work hard to improve yourself is to get laid? I think that’s part of the problem with you guys, dude. I stay in good shape first and foremost because I’m passionate about BJJ. I work hard towards my career because I want to make enough money to own nice things and have freedom and power over my life. Getting laid is one of the MANY reasons why I work to better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:14 PM
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I mean, the effort is worth it because it makes your life better as a whole. Like if I was asexual, I’d still be happier being in good shape and having a successful career than being a fat slob with no good career prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:12 PM
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Bro, you’re acting like street racing used to be a “typical male activity” like what? Lol Horse play is another hilarious one. Like 40 year old professionals in the 1960s would just randomly start wrestling each other
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:17 PM
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I mean, most of those things ARE toxic if done in the wrong place/time. Like showing up drinking whiskey to your kids little league game is just obviously toxic. Racing down a busy highway is clearly reckless endangerment. I don’t see how that’s some conspiracy to emasculate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:09 PM
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All of those things are fine in the right environment. I do BJJ, for example. That’s basically horse play as a hobby. Drinking/smoking are okay with right place/right time in mind, but I don’t see how those things are “the things men used to do”. Nobody ever liked drunks. Back in the day, there was no AA. Drunks were just sent to mental institutions. Smoking is gross. Anybody who has seen a 34 year old that looks like he/she’s 50 can see how gross smokers are. Racing cars is…oddly specific, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:00 PM
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Not many. For every successful streamer out there, there are probably 10,000 dudes that don’t stream. That said, becoming a successful streamer is a lot different than being a straight up gaming addict. Streamers are doing it with a purpose. It takes genuine work to become a successful streamer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:34 AM
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“The things men used to do are toxic now” Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:32 AM
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No. I think it’s more complicated than “I’d rather game than get laid.” I think it’s more likely that those guys severely lack self confidence and don’t believe that they have the ability to develop themselves enough to actually get laid consistently (or to accomplish other things), so they use video games as an escape tool to avoid facing hard challenges in life. Once again, I’m not referring to casual gamers. I’m referring to guys who basically do nothing but game in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:32 AM
2

Sure. I’m one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:13 AM
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Sure. Video games are just the most common unproductive hobby for younger men. And there are an increasingly higher number of younger men that do pretty much nothing in life but game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:09 AM
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You can play games. You just have to have more going for you in life than games.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:57 AM
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If an adult still views the world the same way he/she did as a kid, that person is considered to be immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 11:37 PM
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FDS. RP is cringe, but not as extreme s FDS. FDS is closer to incel levels of extreme. RP isn’t quite as bad as incelism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:23 AM
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Yes, they can. If you’re not able to have casual sex, you’re not average. You’re below average. Men’s SMV is measured differently than women’s, and your SMV is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:05 AM
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Yeah and the nice thing is that while it’s harder to stay in shape at 30, the threshold for “hot bod” goes way down, too. Honestly, just having a decent BMI at 30 is enough to still be attractive. If you aren’t a fat tub of lard and have a good job at 30+, as long as you’re a chill dude that knows how to find fun things to do, you are drowning in pussy at 30 if you’re single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:53 PM
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Could just be your city, especially if you live in a really expensive city like Toronto. But I can pretty confidently say that when I was in college, I’d literally have girls asking me for sex at the pool. I was heavily into MMA, and had a very lean and muscular body. Status was irrelevant. Confidence was kinda there but I actually found that because I was attractive at the pool, trying to be confident ended up making me appear cocky or arrogant and turned girls off (where as at a bar where I di…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:18 PM
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Ya wrong lol. Especially if you’re in your 20s. Getting really fit and just being genuine and down to earth = easiest lays ever. Especially during summer time. Honestly, you don’t even need to do all the fake RP confidence bull shit. Get a super nice bod, and be a little on the shy side, but just confident enough to still approach girls at the pool and tell them you think they’re cute. My dude they eat it up. All day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:16 PM
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No there’s not lol. Nobody has ever respected pussy ass dudes who have nothing going for them. There’s just more pussy ass dudes with nothing going for them than there used to be. Nobody disrespects a dude who stays in shape, accomplishes things he sets out to due, and sets/enforces his boundaries in a healthy but firm way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 05:16 PM
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20 people a day is such an unrealistic, unattainable number. The fact that you’re even using it in a debate as if it’s a real thing shows your lack of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:06 AM
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“Shows lack of control” The fuck? What are they controlling? Your entire argument starts with the assumption that sleeping around is immoral. I’m not desperate for anything. I’m just an actual socially adjusted dude who doesn’t feel like I have a compulsion problem when I hook up with somebody. If you ever lose your virginity one day, you’ll maybe realize that normal people have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:33 AM
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Yes lol. A history of cheating is a history of cheating, but just because somebody sleeps around while single doesn’t mean they’ll do it while in a relationship. Stop being insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:06 AM
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Sleeping around when you’re single isn’t equivalent to sleeping around in a relationship. This is a false equivalency.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:34 PM
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I wouldn’t likely date a girl who works at McDonald’s, but it could be possible depending on the circumstances. If she’s working there because she’s 19, she’s just too young for me. If she’s working there because she has no ambition and nothing going for her other than hotness, I wouldn’t be remotely interested. Maybe for a one night stand, but I feel like people that are just pure party animals bring way too much toxicity to be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 02:43 PM
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I met my gf at a bar, while I was on a date with another girl who I met at a different bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:20 AM
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The problem is they have insanely low rejection sensitivity. They develop these attitudes after like one or two rejections.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:11 AM
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Stating your intentions when you feel them is a good way to get sex or dates. Dudes get stuck in the friend zone by not saying how they feel when they feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:50 PM
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It’s pretty funny to me seeing people actually think that the majority of women in their 20s are obese because a study says 30 something % of women 25-34 are obese. It’s also funny to see the clearly obvious lack of social interaction you’ve had. Like the idea that you suggested i would feel “embarrassed on Reddit”, as if that’s something that normal, socially adjusted people are capable of feeling. Kinda supports my hypothesis that y’all people spouting this shit just sit inside all day and cry…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:49 PM
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Lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:59 PM
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That’s a retarded and useless stat. 29-34 isn’t even in the prime dating age. The older you get, the more likely you are to be obese. Look at 18-24, which is much more of a prime dating age. And even then, 25-34 is highly likely weighted down by those in your 30s, which is when people have been married, had kids, and generally start to let themselves go. Go to any social function for people in their 20s bro. You’re so absurdly delusional if you think it’s even close to 40%
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:52 PM
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Bro that’s including people in their 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. Christ dude, try actually understand how statistics work instead of literally just posting the top result of google with no context. https://www.wihealthatlas.org/obesity/age
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:27 PM
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Lmao. It’s just so painfully obvious that you don’t socialize. Literally anybody reading this with a social life sees how stupid your entire argument is lol. “Heavier” does not mean obese. Your argument is that women have, on average, become a bunch of fat slobs. This is just so painstakingly and obviously false.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:10 PM
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Man it didn’t take you long to go from “40 pounds fatter” to 29 pounds heavier lmao. Also, look at my original post my dude. Look around you. The average woman age 20-29 is not obese. Maybe if you live in some BFE small town, but go to any larger city or suburb outside of a larger city and clearly most girls are 6/10 or higher. Like when’s the last time you went to a college party and an overwhelming majority of those girls were fat? Or a really poppin downtown bar? Completely delusional bro. Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:43 PM
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The average woman in normal dating age range is not obese. Source that or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:12 PM
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Here’s the problem bro, and it’s really simple. The average man’s attraction levels have gone down. If the average woman was a 300 pounder with a mustache, men would see a lot more picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 04:11 PM
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This is so far from the norm it’s not even funny. It’s so bizarrely odd that it honestly sounds like a made up story. If it’s not a made up story, it’s extremely unlikely that you’ll ever run into 2 people like her. But it’s probably a made up story.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:47 AM
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Why is this such a generalized question? Some do. Some don’t. Everybody is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:30 AM
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You have both extremes now. Dudes who lack masculinity completely, and you have dudes who recognize the lack of masculinity but don’t understand what true masculinity is…so they end up overcompensating. This is what the term “toxic masculinity” is actually referring to. Mark Manson, in my opinion, does the best job at describing what true masculinity is in his book “models”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:23 PM
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It depends on what guys. Somebody with 0 experience and a bunch of anxiety probably won’t. I also believe that more men these days lack the kind of social intuition necessary to be successful in the dating and hookup works that in previous generations, mostly because men were raised by electronics and didn’t have to develop social skills in order to enjoy their childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:46 PM
1

Yeah I agree. I mean you have to learn how to read when to go for it and when not to go for it. You get to the point where it’s obvious, and there’s a certain point where asking can actually be a smooth way to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:39 PM
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I think they can be. Age gaps have their own form of creepiness in the fact that you’re so much less likely to have things in common because of how much different your experiences were growing up and how much different your views of the world will be. But ultimately, a power gap creates a dangerous dynamic of one of the one with the power becomes abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 11:51 AM
1

It depends on the situation. Not recommended for inexperienced or unconfident guys for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:03 AM
0

Nah man, this is your ego speaking. I’m going to be harsh, but understand that im coming from a place of trying to help you recognize that you are your own worst enemy, and if you listen to me, your life will get better. Your ego is the part of your brain that tries to protect your perception of yourself. It is the worst part of your mind, and learning how to crush it is the key to becoming a high value person and living the most fulfilling life possible. If you get fired for being late, your eg…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:27 PM
2

You probably got long stringy hair, a negative as fuck personality, no career prospects, don’t work out, and sit insidE gaming or watching anime 24/7 as a means of drowning out your social anxiety….you sit here and blame the world instead of manning up and fixing yourself. In a bit of hilarious irony, it’s that lack of ability to man up and take action that is the real reason girls don’t like you my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:36 AM
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Nah. It’s just that men misinterpret it. They hear “nice guy” and think that being nice is all it takes. Like still have goals and dreams and don’t be a massive pushover, but also be a kind, genuine person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:23 AM
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Dude you can be a very mediocre dude and get with some very attractive girls. You’re not average if you’re having trouble sleeping with women. You’re below average. You’re just seeing the world from so far down that average dudes seem like high value men. You choose to be below average. You are a byproduct of your habits. Your financial situation, your romantic life, your sex life, and your social connections are all a byproduct of decisions you’ve made and habits you have formed. Either cope or…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 01:21 AM
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Pro tip: don’t read FDS if you’re already struggling with self confidence Better pro tip: don’t read FDS at all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:38 PM
1

I guess technically 0% is a no. But I also think that working to be the best version of yourself goes strongly against most people’s nature. It would be like 0.000000000000000000001% chance or less. Definitely not going to happen in your lifetime, so you do you homie
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 03:01 PM
1

Okay but that’s literally never going to happen, so therefore it’s a scenario that deserves exactly 0% of your brainpower. As long as the 0% chance scenario doesn’t happen, life is fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:20 PM
1

“If all men did this simultaneously” Dude, look at where your mind is going bro. Holy shit lol. Not every man is going to do it simultaneously, so why even concern your self with that hypothetical? Easily less than 1% of men come even within 60% of their maximum potential. Men in our generation are garbage on average dude. They get dad bods by 28, rarely invest in a career, and have shit social skills. Be the absolute best you can be and you easily are at the top of the dating pool. The funny th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 12:32 PM
1

Nah, it just helps you get in the door. If you’re all of those other things, but short, there will be some people who reject you before they see those things. If you’re all but none of those things, you will be given chances you don’t deserve. But the short guy who is a kick ass dude will always have better success with women than the tall guy who isn’t. Always. If you’re short and not having success with women, it’s your own lack of self investment, and anything else is an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:49 AM
2

In the sense that it helps. It’s not the end all solution that dudes think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:39 AM
1

Being tall helps, but if you have all of those other things going for you, height doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:22 AM
8

Or you could just..you know…work to become a guy that women desire. You know, work out, eat right, work towards a lucrative career, invest time into developing your charisma and social intuition and emotional intelligence. Crazy thought that just being better also works, but it does. And the best part is that you don’t have to play stupid games or be some bitter dude who even thinks about it in terms of “having the upper hand” 🤷🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 10:23 PM
1

Look at my username man. I’m into jiu jitsu. That shit is a sausage fest. And I still stand by what I said. If 80% of dudes feel that way, 80% of dudes are insecure. That’s probably why the 80/20 rule exists
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:14 AM
3

Without googling the Webster’s definition, I’d define it as feelings of inadequacy, feeling like you can’t measure up, aren’t good enough, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:32 PM
3

Dude here. Everyone’s allowed to have a preference, but in my opinion, preferring a low n-count USUALLY comes from insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:13 PM
2

Yep. The term you’re looking for is pheromones. It’s a pretty interesting topic. It has to do specifically with your immune system. If your immune systems are too similar, you’ll like their pheromones less. It’s a biological/evolutionary way of making sure your babies’ immune system is strong vs lots of different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:02 AM
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Idk. I’ve had successful and unsuccessful relationships that varied on how long it took us to sleep together. My current GF of 3 years slept with me after the first date. My previous gf made me wait 3 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 01:06 AM
2

Interesting that somebody’s smell is so important for you. Are you referring to pheromones, or is it like their actual body odor smell?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:56 PM
1

Idk man. You go bald, you stay really fit and maybe get some tats and you’re alright. I’m sure hair is better, but wearing your flaws like a fucking champ is always better than hiding them in a basket of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:34 PM
1

I think you should just be true to yourself. If you’re a punk rock dude, be true to it. Maybe it limits you a bit, but by being genuine, you get all of the hot punk rock girls. Trying to be liked by everybody is validation seeking and unattractive. On top of that, by being true to yourself, you’re more likely to find people who have similar interests as you. You know what’s better than banging a hot girl? Banging a hot girl that also shares your hobbies, sense of humor, and values. You will be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:45 PM
3

Normies4life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:44 PM
6

We don’t think of ourselves as blue pill men. We just go about living our lives without making our entire lives revolve around bitterness towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:34 AM
3

I mean, if you can do it in a non-needy way, and you’re willing to respectfully take no for an answer, it’s probably okay within reason to approach somebody. But you need social intuition to do it. Don’t approach somebody with their headphones in. Don’t approach anybody from behind. Don’t sprint across a parking lot to approach somebody. If they’re obviously in a hurry, don’t stop them. Be direct about your intentions, and be respectful. If they say no, how out gracefully and with no hard feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 05:07 PM
2

It may create a future labor shortage in this country, which would damage the economy, but AI/robotics probably will solve that problem anyway. It’s honestly probably a good thing because of that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:19 PM
1

Ah, I see. I read the wrong parent comment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:26 PM
1

I disagree. There are times where, say I go through a tough breakup, where I will actively avoid any sex or relationships for a few months. I’ll masturbate because I need the release, but I don’t NEED sex. I want sex. I like sex. Adopting the mindset that you need sex will probably make you act more needy, which will ironically make it harder for you to get sex. Learning to enjoy life without sex absolutely makes it easier to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:21 PM
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I agree, as long as you aren’t overthinking/overdoing that. I do nice things for my friends. Sometimes, I go way out of my way to do those nice things. I do them because I care about my friends, not because I am trying to win their approval, prove my loyalty, or get them to like me. The difference between a nice guy and a “nice guy” is WHY you do nice things. Everybody likes genuinely nice people. Nobody likes somebody who is using niceness as a currency.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:59 AM
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I mean if you’re self respecting, you end a relationship if you feel like you’re putting in all the effort. You don’t worry about getting the last word in or proving to her how wrong she is. You just move in and continue with your life because ideally you have enough going on in your life that you don’t need to tie your self esteem to your success with one shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:57 AM
1

Lol I love this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:54 AM
2

Roughness doesn’t have to equate to strength though. Here’s a fantastic example: https://youtu.be/ekoDt_uxb_E This guy isn’t rough. He’s not tough. But he exhibits strength in having the confidence to stand up for himself while still having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:13 AM
2

Holy shit, you’re extreme af lol. I see what you mean, but by verbally saying “don’t do it again, I’m also enforcing that boundary. If that person then does it again, I’d need to reinforce the boundary. There are plenty of ways to sit hat that don’t include murder lmao. I can simply cut that person off. I can tell them “yo dude, I asked you not to do that, and you’re doing that anyway. Fucking stop being a dick” Just showing that you’re willing to stand your ground and not passively accept peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:10 AM
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But you can be aggressive and nice. Think Superman. Think Jack Bauer. They’ll fuck some shit up if they have to. But they’re the good guys who are kind to people. You absolutely, 100% can be an aggressive, assertive, but kind person. If you want a book that can help you understand the “nice alpha” mindset, I recommend “Models” by Mark Manson (same guy who wrote The Subtle Art of not Giving a Fuck)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:00 AM
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Lol I agree. Life would have been a lot easier if this was laid out for us! I think it’s because our parents’ generation had a lot more strong men and few nice men. So our parents told us growing up that we needed to be nice because they assumed all men were strong by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:49 AM
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I see why it seems that way, but you can be a nice person but not always so nice things. You can also enforce boundaries in a nice way (for the most part). “I don’t like it when you do x. Please don’t do that” Is actually a healthy way to enforce a boundary. The strength comes from the willingness to engage in some uncomfortable confrontation in order to protect important boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:48 AM
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They can, especially if you’re like OP was. It doesn’t have to be “bad boys” always. Remember the key - he was assertive, but nice to her. You don’t have to be mean to other people to prove that you’re assertive. Just be the guy in the group of friends that says “yo let’s go here tonight guys” Demonstrate leadership and decisiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:44 AM
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You’re just so incorrect man. You don’t like what she’s saying because it means you’d need to make changes, and the challenge of making a necessary change just isn’t something you’re up to. There were plenty of role models through media that embodies this concept. We definitely grew up with it. Stop trying to find excuses to resent women and take control of this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 08:42 AM
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I see what you’re saying bro. I’m just saying it’s not nearly as much nice vs mean as it is strong vs weak. Be a strong version of yourself who sets and enforces boundaries and has self respect, but also helps the little old lady across the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:12 AM
1

Set and enforce boundaries Invest in hobbies Treat girls like you treat your guy friends. Like normal human beings that are fun to hang out with. Dress nice Stop spending 3+ hours a day every day playing video games Work out 3 times a week Make a move when you want to, and accept rejection gracefully Congrats on being in the 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:54 AM
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I think they’re just not always good at explaining it. They do want a sweet caring guy. They just also want a guy who isn’t a total pussy. You young dudes hear “I want a nice guy” and then you do everything you can to be nice. You invest in niceness so much that you have nothing else interesting going for you, and you’re all soft and unwilling to stand up for yourselves or anything you believe in. You’re indecisive, rejection sensitive, and get stuck with a victim mentality. Just be a strong dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:51 AM
7

This sub has always been mobbed with a bunch of dudes who are borderline incel. Not like full blown incel, but definitely leaning hard in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:44 AM
1

I’ve never liked the Kardashian look, either. My ideal butt is an athletic squat booty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 10:19 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:26 PM
1

I mean, Scandinavian countries are having more sex than anywhere else in the world bro. Switzerland is like the most open to casual sex on the planet. I think your theories fall short a little bit, and it takes more than a few correlative studies to draw conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:19 PM
1

Yeah, and there’s some very real irony in that. Most of these guys are also very politically conservative. This is extremely ironic because they want women to give away their love and affection without it being earned. Like the whole foundation of economic conservatism is that if you want something, work for it because handouts are bad, but then they expect women to want them when they’re not willing to put forth the effort it takes to become something worth wanting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:35 PM
1

I mean I’m pretty left wing. Nobody’s saying women are better than men. Like that’s the impression that one gets if he has low self esteem and self confidence. Nobody’s saying men are worthless. They’re saying “please don’t rape women and take them seriously as professionals instead of trying to bang them.” Your worth, your SMV, etc is all determined by you. You have the choice to be in good shape. You have the choice to spend your time doing things that make you more interesting. You have the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:03 PM
1

Just saw your edit. I have never felt like I was fed the idea that I’m useless. Idk where you get that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:33 AM
2

Yeah. Kinda reminds me of a Bill Burr stand up joke where he talks about Steve Jobs getting credit for the iPhone instead of all the techs and programmers that actually built it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:26 AM
1

Everybody has a choice to change. The dudes who post this shit are pretty much always dudes that spend 5+ hours a day playing video games and do nothing with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:25 AM
5

Yeah. OP’s seeing things through the filter of a person who has felt rejected and unlovable for way too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:05 AM
19

I get what you’re trying to do, but this whole “men are useful and women are useless” thing is tired and kinda cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:59 AM
2

I’m not a fan of that look at all. I’m a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:49 AM
1

I strongly disagree. Innocent mind games is a nice way of saying “mild manipulation.” If you have to be manipulative in place of genuine, honest, and vulnerable, your relationship isn’t worth saving.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:17 PM
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The idea that all women are just looking to exploit you is exactly what OP means lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 02:10 PM
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They don’t necessarily paint a picture, but they can lol. You can’t just make a blanket statement that all movies are always inaccurate. If you can’t grasp the concept of what I’m saying based off of my last post, which gave a solid example of my point outside of the James Bond example, then I’m sorry, but I just don’t know how to explain it to you in a way that makes sense. I’ll try one more time though. Mean person bad. Nice person good. Strong mean person attractive. Strong nice person more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:56 PM
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Yeah dude, I realize that movies aren’t real, but it’s still a good example that paints a picture for how real life works. You can be a good person, even a kind person, but still be “alpha”. James Bond is a great example of a fictional character who exhibits this. Be the dude who tells the creepy guy to fuck off. That’s how to exhibit “nice alpha” (I hate the term alpha, but for the sake of simplifying this point, we’ll call it that). Be the dude who goes for what he wants and is assertive. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:13 PM
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No, it’s not. They understand the difference. It’s just that they’d prefer to bone the asshole than the guy who is a total pussy. But they’d take a guy who is confident and also not an asshole over somebody that is an asshole. James Bond gets more poon than the bad guys he kills. But the bad guys he kills get laid more than random nobody henchmen that can’t stand up for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:37 PM
1

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 02:16 AM
1

Idk I’m just saying that she’s not like busted ugly. She’s average with potential to be very attractive with effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:09 PM
1

Idk what to tell you man. It’s a bummer that it’s harder for us, but being bitter and resentful is only going to hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:47 PM
1

Cheating can still happen in an open relationship. Boundaries are set within the scope of these relationships. Somebody who cheats in monogamous relationships is demonstrating willingness to cross these kinds of boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:28 PM
10

She’s not ugly. If she got like into fitness she could easily be hot. Her attractiveness is very much within the realm of her control.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:35 PM
1

huge cheating risk is literally the only factor that matters here. I’m not really physically attracted to girl on the left, so it would be neither, but if I had to pick a life partner, the one less likely to cheat would be the one. Edit: slight revision. If I ever broke up with my current gf, I’d possibly want an open relationship. Although open relationships take a lot of honesty, and if girl 2 is a huge cheating risk, she has an issue with honesty. So I don’t really know the answer, but that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:33 PM
1

Increase in how much time is spent playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 11:01 AM
2

Here’s a thought - be plan A and also show signs of commitment. If you literally just try your hardest to go somewhere in life, which is an extremely rewarding lifestyle even outside of dating/hookups, you’ll find attractive women that will want you. It shouldn’t be a shock to you that people who don’t want to end up alone settle for something less than what they initially wanted. It also shouldn’t be a shock to you that it’s 100% your choice whether you’re settle material or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:09 PM
1

You absolutely have the right to feel the way you do as long as you’re not a dick about it to other people. It’s definitely going to limit your options, but I respect the “I’d rather be with nobody than with somebody who doesn’t do it for me” attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:17 PM
1

Everybody has the right to have their preferences, but do you mind if I ask why you feel that way? Like, if you know they don’t have STDs, does their past really matter? Would you prefer somebody who doesn’t have much in common with you but has no sexual experience over somebody who shares your same interests, has a similar sense of humor, supports your passions, and vibes with you extremely well but had some drunken hookups in college? My best advice, if that’s the case, would be to find somebo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 08:14 PM
1

Women are worried about being slut shamed, and they feel like the only way to maintain a relationship is to repress their sexuality and only have vanilla sex with their overly prude husbands. Years of repressing their baser desires leads them to finally seek out a more fulfilling sex life with somebody that either won’t judge them or with somebody whose judgement doesn’t matter. If you want kinky sex, stop slut shaming and accept that human beings are sexual beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 08:24 PM
3

The young men that are 14-25 are high value for their age. They also have natural mental game. Some people are born confident. Or they developed strong social status in their childhood that carried them through high school/college. “Telllng men to work on themselves for 5-10 years is absolutely brutal.” I’m not telling anybody anything. I’m not saying it’s fair. I’m saying it’s reality. If you want to be an extremely high value male who has gorgeous women chasing you, and you want to live that p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:32 PM
3

It only seems like women have the advantage because of supply and demand. Many women are attractive by men’s standards. Few men are attractive by women’s standards. -work on mental game, including confidence, self acceptance, emotional zen, emotional vulnerability, etc -Stay in really good shape -Develop a good career by actually working towards developing networking skills and developing a marketable skill You’re a super high value male in 5-10 years. Extremely high value men have a massive adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:11 PM
1

1 - typically does not mean always. Take one look at r/deadbedrooms and you’ll see very clearly that women and men both have the same issue 2 - correlation does not equal causation. Women tend to lose their sex drive when men stop putting forth effort into the relationship. Men tend to stop putting forth effort into a relationship as time passes. Women who still feel like they’re being courted/dated don’t typically see the same drop off in sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:26 PM
1

Because many women want sex just as much as, if not more than men in many relationships. This is basic supply and demand psychology for you. Because you don’t have regular access to sex, it becomes way more valuable to you in your mind. When you have regular access to sex, it stops feeling like the end-all life goal that one must center their entire existence around.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:33 AM
2

I mean that sometimes, the woman is coming on to the man, and the man is the one that decides whether it’s a yes or a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:57 PM
3

Shit dudes who can’t get laid say I’m not disagreeing with you that in hookup culture, women are USUALLY the gatekeepers of sex (not always, but usually). In relationships, that’s just false and anybody who has had a healthy relationship understands this. Your view is literally only held by people lacking experience in this realm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:42 PM
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