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Social IssuesPassionateCucumber43/r/MensRights28/04/23 02:03 AM
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Not sure what to tell you. Men simply desire the state of being in a relationship more than women do and thus are willing to try to make it work if they don’t 100% “feel” it at the beginning. This is not a habit that can be turned off and it’s not a sign of immaturity. Men and women are just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:58 PM
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I mean it is objectively the case that our current society treats it as a reward, which means it is. You can recognize that it’s not an ideal way to frame it while also recognizing that it’s not pragmatic to live your life based on how things should be instead of how they are
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:02 PM
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Closer to the latter. But I never said anything about the difficulty of maintaining a relationship. I think that’s basically as hard as it should be, not too easy but not too difficult. I mainly just think getting a relationship in the first place has become disproportionately hard in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:03 PM
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You have “PUA” in your flair so of course you’d think attracting women is easy. But no, for the average man these days it’s much harder than keeping an already existing relationship going
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:29 PM
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I think the bigger issue is that it’s too much work in the beginning. Men should absolutely be putting significant effort into a relationship once they’re in one but the barrier to entry has simply become too high
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:56 PM
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Bad analogy. Almost everyone has some level of connection to the concept of sex or relationships. Even if it’s just through what friends or other people are going through, people are capable of drawing valid conclusions through mere observation and should be able to voice their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:32 AM
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This has happened to me before and it’s insane to me how women can say so confidently to your face that the entire friendship was a long con/manipulation after you’ve experienced the entire process of it starting as a normal friendship and developing feelings gradually. Like what are you even supposed to say in response to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:47 PM
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Yep. A lot of advice given to men who are struggling is implicitly based on the assumption that they’ve had at least occasional success in the past that they can look back on and use for reassurance, completely ignoring those who don’t even know what it feels like to be desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:40 PM
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The flip side is the cases where attraction develops later in the friendship, which obviously matters because you’re making claims related to the morality of people’s intentions. Also, you’re creating this false dichotomy of genuine friendship vs. viewing someone as only a sex object. Not wanting to stay friends with someone who rejected you isn’t just “abandoning them because they didn’t want to have sex.” Relationships are also about wanting a higher level of emotional intimacy with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:38 PM
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Nope. Some men absolutely need an emotional connection or a level of familiarity that can only be achieved through pre-existing friendship before being certain of their attraction. I know for a fact that I do and I’m definitely not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:23 PM
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This is simply not always the case. Often it starts as a genuine friendship and the guy organically develops feelings over time, and then the woman refuses to believe this and insists he was playing the long game, and over time this just became the prevailing narrative because we never get to hear the flip side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:48 PM
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It’s definitely not outdated unfortunately. It’s very frequently used by mainstream media when discussing the situations in Gaza and Ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:27 PM
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Quite positive overall. He is very educated and accomplished and was always present in my childhood (and continues to be now). In terms of his effect on my life it’s hard to say exactly. I think I had kind of an “unusual” childhood in the sense that it wasn’t very pleasant but almost entirely because I barely had any friends and had difficulty relating to my peers, and my parents and home life were a refuge from that (whereas when most people talk about a difficult childhood it’s usually implied…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:06 PM
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I don’t think it’s reasonable to just say this as a standalone generalization, but if it’s in response to women saying they “can’t find any good guys,” then absolutely. Often when women say this, they’re artificially limiting the pool of men they’re judging because they have a vision of a certain physical standard in their head and preemptively reject guys who don’t meet it without even taking the time to fully feel out whether it’s a dealbreaker or not in light of all their other traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:06 PM
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The problem is that this would only work if all men simultaneously agreed to decenter women, which is basically impossible. If a man decides to do this himself while other men continue pursuing women, he’s just disadvantaging himself for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:04 PM
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The problem is that men are increasingly called incels even when they’re just venting. I think there’s a disconnect about exactly where the line is between just being upset about not having a relationship and exclusively blaming women (I hope you realize women aren’t shielded from accountability so partially blaming them may very well be justified).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:59 PM
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Not red pill, but my answer to the title question is “nothing” because I would have no interest in a relationship with someone this judgmental or who makes such ridiculous exaggerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:14 PM
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I mean at least you’re actually getting at the subtext of OP’s question. A lot of people here are taking “what do you want us to do” to just mean “what benefits women the most.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:50 PM
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Not maintaining them, but getting them in the first place is easier for women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:51 PM
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Only a very small portion of men are monks, and yes, those probably do just happen to be the ones who are naturally able to decenter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:50 PM
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But the number of straight men who are capable of not psychologically requiring women is very small. This idea of decentering women is being pushed based on the assumption that men experience sexuality the same way women do, which isn’t the case. The only incentive most men have to decenter women is of it’s part of a movement large enough to improve their position by changing how women approach dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:02 PM
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If it became a mass movement, enough to actually change the structure of the dating market, then sure. But if it’s only a small number of men doing it or they don’t truly want to, they’re just putting themselves at a disadvantage for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:09 PM
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Watching same-sex porn of the opposite sex is arguably even more straight than watching straight porn, since everyone involved is the sex you’re attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:04 AM
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This may be true but the right is less openly hostile to men than the left, which in the short term is what matters. If Democrats want to win elections, they need to change their approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:49 PM
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I didn’t say 60% were single involuntarily, I said that since 60% are single overall, the number who are involuntarily single is still almost certainly higher than 2-5%. Also, you wouldn’t know who is afraid of commitment if they aren’t getting into relationships to begin with. I can assure you that many if not most young men would be more than happy to commit if a woman showed interest. They just aren’t getting the opportunity to demonstrate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:08 PM
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I mean, it’s well established that over 60% of young men are single, so I can pretty much guarantee you that much more than 2-5% are single and don’t want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:02 PM
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What you may see as individual male problems actually can be explained in large part by broader societal issues. Social media and dating apps have artificially raised people’s standards, and economic inequality has made it harder for the average person to find the energy and time to pursue long term relationships. These issues affect everyone, but that includes men. Also, any individual problem is worth social attention if it becomes common enough. That’s just basic empathy and caring about the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:51 PM
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Do you accept that women denigrating and blaming their problems on men as a response to bad experiences with them is also a scourge on the modern social climate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:40 PM
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It’s not just the Selective Service itself, it’s the broader attitude embodied by it that men’s lives are disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:35 PM
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It’s a chicken/egg situation. You’re misjudging which part came first. Initially, men were honest and direct about it, but largely stopped once they realized that people would criticize or dismiss them simply for venting and expressing normal human emotions. Men have zero incentive to be honest about their difficulties again until they can be sure they won’t receive this response, and it’s completely unreasonable to expect them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:49 AM
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Finally, the reason why many women don’t care is because for many, if not most men, it’s just a Motte-and-Bailey for sex and relationships. They don’t care about friends and support networks, they want a partner. The reason men are forced to use “loneliness” as code for the lack of a relationship is because people have a tendency to reflexively label men as “incels” or misogynists whenever they directly voice difficulty getting a relationship, even if they’re not specifically blaming women for i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:35 AM
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It’s an insult to tell someone of any sexuality that they might be another sexuality. You’re saying they don’t understand what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:26 PM
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Choosing to walk away or disengage completely after becoming attracted to someone is controlling your emotions and impulses. It’s completely normal and not childish to not be able to actually “turn off” attraction, since it is literally involuntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:07 AM
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Having control over feelings one has at a given time has absolutely nothing to do with feelings changing over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:47 PM
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This literally just proves my point. The fact that men usually leave the wives/girlfriends of people they know alone doesn’t necessarily mean they’re deciding not to be attracted to them, it just means they’re choosing to distance themselves from them because they know expressing any attraction they may have would be problematic. This is the exact same thought process that would cause a man to cut off contact with a female friend after developing feelings for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:37 PM
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We already know this. The problem (what OP is addressing) is the fact that women often seem to misidentify the latter situation as the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:54 PM
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No, it’s actually very responsible. Sexual attraction is not something that is consciously controlled or “decided.” Once that happens, you’re forcing the woman into an uncomfortable situation simply by being there (even if you don’t act on your feelings), since those feelings aren’t going to just change. The respectful and mature option is to distance yourself completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:51 PM
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Looks like OP just discovered racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:16 AM
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Yeah this is what does it for me too. It’s basically the last remaining context where it’s considered acceptable to be explicitly sexist. It’s arguably also misogynistic because it implies that women are as helpless as children.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 06:24 PM
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That’s easier said than done given we live in such an interconnected society. A lot of things in life are influenced by what other people think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 10:59 PM
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I don’t entirely disagree with this attitude but your first point is just completely false. Even if there are limited options for happiness in a hyper-capitalist society, it is still true that growing up in a stable two parent household gives you more of a head start in life than any other arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:09 PM
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It’s one thing if it actually IS the couple’s assets but it many cases it extends to assets accumulated before the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:03 PM
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What people do in real life is far more important than what they claim or write in a book. It’s meaningless that books present a fair and balanced view of feminism when the present day Western cultural narrative is systematically biased against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:45 PM
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Nope. I don’t engage with that kind of media and I see it happen all the time. And I’m not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:57 PM
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Well unfortunately, the segment of the feminist movement that’s most influential these days is not the middle-of-the-road one. Blaming all men and denying that men’s issues could be anyone’s fault but themselves has become openly accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:18 AM
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Good bot
/r/MensRights23/09/24 03:02 AM
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Why is a headline from Financial Times written in the style of Buzzfeed?
/r/MensRights23/09/24 01:22 AM
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A wage gap is not inherently discriminatory. Unless it can be demonstrated that men and women are being paid differently for the exact same role in the same company, there are many other benign explanations for a general disparity in men’s and women’s wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:32 PM
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Marriage has existed since before religion. Just because it often happens in that context doesn’t mean they are inherently connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 07:58 PM
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I think it’s a bit arbitrary to draw the line at marriage, which is a legal matter and social construct rather than actually telling you anything about the dynamic between two people. But I would agree that sex outside of some degree of committed relationship is inherently degrading to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:49 PM
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I don’t think you can assume that someone who is complaining is looking for advice. Women vent to each other all the time with the unspoken understanding that it’s just for emotional release and they’re not specifically looking for advice. Why is it so difficult to see how men often do the exact same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:15 PM
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There is a very narrow set of circumstances under which social skills are nearly irrelevant. For men, this basically includes being very wealthy, influential, or extremely attractive. I think what you’re seeing is people underestimating how difficult it is to achieve those circumstances and falsely assuming that the average man can neglect social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:08 PM
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While there are definitely some men here who think they are owed a relationship, much of the time these complaints are just them venting. Women do this all the time, and yet I think they struggle to understand that men are doing the exact same thing because they incorrectly assume men are unemotional or never express emotions the same way they do. Most of us are not asking women to change what they’re attracted to, just to be honest about what they’re attracted to and not gaslight “undesirable” …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:10 PM
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone unironically suggest this. It’s usually meant as a lighthearted joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:11 PM
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You’re missing OP’s point. It’s not that women should be forced to engage with men they aren’t attracted to, it’s that they should, 1), be honest about what attracts them and, 2), not claim the moral high ground while criticizing men for having comparable or lower standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:29 PM
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I think men should be given more specific advice in general, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:18 PM
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It’s the opposite of giving up. “Adapt” in this case means to actively change one’s behaviors to reflect specific things that are viewed positively by women instead of going off of overly vague advice like “just treat them as human beings.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:06 PM
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Did you even read my comment? I already said that men should actively try to improve themselves so they have more success, which is the exact opposite of giving up trying. All I’m saying is that a person won’t know they need to improve if they’re constantly told that everything will work out in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:01 PM
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This goes to the “vocal minority” part of my comment. The ones who are obsessed with casual sex are usually very in your face about it, which makes it seem like there are more people like this than there actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:47 PM
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Things like extreme capitalism causing people to think more in the short term and become more self centered, dating apps artificially inflating people’s standards (mostly women’s standards), and just a general loss of a sense of community and looking out for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:44 PM
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This is a straw man argument. There really are not that many men who genuinely believe they should be able to get free casual sex at someone else’s expense. It’s just vocal minority. But it is very common for boys/young men to be told things like “everyone finds their person eventually” and that treating women as human beings is the only thing that matters for getting a relationship. From an early age, the amount of effort needed is significantly downplayed, and it doesn’t work out as well when …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:37 PM
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The problem is that you’re not even giving people the opportunity to change their behavior if you’re systematically lying to them from an early age, telling them that “everyone finds their person eventually” and that it isn’t that hard. If men were aware of the reality earlier, the ones who are willing to change their behavior would at least know that they need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:22 PM
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It would allow men to realize and adapt to this reality at an earlier age, when they are less judged for it and have less to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:16 PM
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This doesn’t address the OP’s analogy of comparing dating to the economy. Why is it that systemic or societal factors can’t possibly be blamed for men’s failures in dating, but they can be blamed for the struggles of the working class?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:14 PM
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Just world fallacy. You can’t in good faith argue that it’s earned when so many objectively good things are punished and so many objectively bad things are rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:07 PM
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That’s a personal preference, not a red flag. It is certainly possible to have a healthy relationship where either one or both people are overwhelmingly the other’s main emotional outlet. They just both have to be comfortable with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:05 PM
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Asperger’s is not a mental health issue. The brain itself is healthy, it just processes things differently. They tend to develop mental health issues because people in general are shallow and not willing to accept people different from them. That is a variable that can be changed if it’s something we actually care about enough to collectively put effort into.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:01 PM
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Sure, but “pump and dump” implies a kind of casual and nonchalant attitude on the part of the man which could only really come about if he knows he has other options and thus doesn’t need to commit to one woman. I think the number of men who truly have options is quite low.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:11 AM
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The share of men who even get the opportunity to do that is very small, whereas most women feel empowered to expect some kind of instant gratification
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:57 AM
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Well if it truly is just an individual preference, the best way to handle it is just to say that clearly. But much of the time when people are unsuccessful it is because they have some attribute that is considered unattractive to many people. What I’m saying is that, when this is the case, it should be pointed out directly rather than using some other excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:17 PM
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I’m talking about being specific, not just saying “ugly.” And yes, assuming that criticism includes things that can be changed, it’s a very thoughtful way to go about it because you’re telling them how they can improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:07 PM
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The only reason it would come off as weird is because we haven’t fully normalized the idea of offering sympathy and actual help to men instead of statements like “man up” or “deal with it.” It doesn’t need to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:16 PM
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It’s more that women try to downplay or deny the role of physical attraction in their decision making. If you’re going to reject someone because of their physical appearance, at least be specific so that the person can improve any parts of their appearance that are within their control and have more luck with other people in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:01 PM
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This is a false dichotomy. There are also people who might not be the best match but are not actual abusers. Many men would not hesitate to choose a relationship with someone like this over no relationship at all, and there’s nothing really wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 04:08 PM
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That’s not going after someone who is unavailable. There are times when a guy develops feelings for a female friend which are reciprocated, so you never know until you ask. If the guy leaves after being rejected, that’s quite literally the most mature and respectful way he could handle the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:32 PM
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The alternative (the man trying to maintain a friendship after being rejected) does the exact opposite: it only considers the woman’s feelings and completely neglects the man’s feelings. These are the only two options since attraction is involuntary and that decision’s already been made in this case. Neither option is better than the other, they just hurt each side equally. Any reasonable person would choose the one that hurts them the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:12 AM
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Well yes, if the guy confesses feelings and the woman does not reciprocate, it’s completely logical and probably best for both involved for the guy to no longer be a part of her life at all. Trying to continue as just friends after that risks creating unnecessary awkwardness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:02 AM
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Much of the time when that happens they were not “never a friend.” It starts off as a genuine friendship with no ulterior motive and the guy organically develops feelings later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:51 AM
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When you say “historically,” how far back is that going? Because in ancient times that disparity would have been almost completely explained by a large number of young men dying in war. The ones who survived probably still overwhelmingly reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:11 PM
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Women already do this. It’s literally one of the major reasons young men are having difficulty dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:01 PM
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Just because your mind doesn’t work that way, doesn’t mean it isn’t a thing that happens. It’s definitely plausible that a someone who sees other people in their life getting divorced could overanalyze their own marriage and as a result see problems that are not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:28 PM
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Do you think your view would have still changed if you hadn’t personally lost money, but rather saw that happen to men in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:53 PM
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I think this is partially true but only at the very beginning stage of relationships simply because women have more options. If you’re talking about relationships that are already well developed, I think the opposite is probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:38 PM
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Your first point is correct, however it’s not accurate to say that only a small percentage of men are struggling. As of 2022, 63% of young men and 34% of young women are single. Even if not all of those 63% are “struggling” and are voluntarily single, it’s still clearly not a small number who are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:43 PM
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This doesn’t address what I said. Even if most accusations are true, that doesn’t justify treating men horribly immediately after an allegation without any evidence and in some cases continuing to assert their guilt even after evidence has vindicated them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:19 PM
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Not directly, but the results of fourth-wave feminism and MeToo are an environment that is much more unforgiving to men who are falsely accused.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:57 AM
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In theory, if someone like this were fully capable of committing to a long-term relationship and not returning to their previous ways, it wouldn’t even matter. However, I would say this is rare enough that you can almost always tell their past by how they behave in the present day, even if they don’t say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:43 PM
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Saying that men desire “less than the top 3%” of women is ridiculous and completely wrong. It’s more like the top 30-40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:34 PM
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If you read the post he’s not saying to blame it entirely on women either. He mentions certain aspects of feminism (like the potential for false accusations, which is a legitimate concern for men) but also other factors which aren’t women’s fault. Also, I’m not sure that things like infrastructure, tax cuts, and government budgets are very relevant in terms of cultural changes in society and dating. These changes are more just negative side effects of creating a more progressive society, which b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:02 PM
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He is referring to the fact that society has become atomized (less community oriented) and people in general have become more isolated in recent years, which is one factor that has made dating harder. He’s saying this shift shouldn’t be blamed on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:47 PM
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I just want a long term relationship with someone who respects and understands me. I would mostly be willing to set aside physical standards to achieve that end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:05 AM
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Ok, well this just means that you apparently live somewhere where the word is not seen as negative. All I’m saying is that I know for a fact that it’s seen as negative where I live and I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 11:19 PM
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It’s not something that’s measurable or can be “verified.” It’s just generally understood that a hyperfixation is a negative thing. If you live in a place or environment where it’s a positive thing, that’s great. I personally think it should be seen positively. All I’m saying is that, according to society, the word carries a negative connotation (at least in the U.S. and probably other English-speaking Western countries).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:35 PM
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I mean it definitely has a somewhat negative connotation. It implies being narrowly interested in something to the exclusion of other things or to an unhealthy extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:23 PM
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Are you assuming his interests are “hyperfixations” just because his flair says “autistic man”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 07:52 PM
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I was responding specifically to the claim that men watching porn automatically makes them not demisexual. A demisexual person could easily be aroused by porn, there would just be a mental “block” preventing them from from having any desire to act on that arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:41 PM
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Being sexually aroused ≠ actually wanting to have sex with a particular woman. Sexual arousal is an involuntary response, but wanting to have sex is a conscious decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:20 PM
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But then you create negative feedback loop, and it gets very difficult to create a healthy connection with someone in the future. It’s not as simple as just snapping out of being numb to it once your time has come because by that time you’ve built up an association in your mind between connection and rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 01:45 PM
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I think what they actually do in real life is even more credible. I would say the hierarchy of most to least honest would be: what they do > what they say online > what they say in person
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:47 PM
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It does appear that there is a consistent trend where self-improvement leads to a lower than expected improvement in dating for men, so seeing this discrepancy could justifiably breed resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:22 PM
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You only hear it online because it’s one of those things that’s basically an unspoken understanding. It’s not appropriate to verbalize, but the internet provides the cover of anonymity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 10:18 PM
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Yes, I can see how the result was generated, it just seems very unlikely. With a sample of over 6,000, I would have assumed the percentage would consistently drop with each additional year, even at the far right end.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:24 PM
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Why do the lines for both sexes go up after age 30-32? How is that even statistically possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:06 PM
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We need a bot for threads like this that picks up the numbers in comments and calculates the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:26 PM
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Ok, so would you agree that this post doesn’t apply (or at least doesn’t apply as much) for autistic people who are high functioning enough that they are fully capable of talking and taking care of themselves, but are just socially awkward?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:05 PM
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I’m not sure it’s entirely economic factors that’s causing the low birth rate. I think there are also social factors involved that aren’t directly related to economics, such as declining social skills, a decrease in third spaces, and increasing toxicity/hostility between men and women. These measures will probably fail unless they can somehow find a way to address these things also.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:48 PM
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Both, but if someone makes a point of bringing this up the implication is that they’re mainly referring to romantic loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:16 PM
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Autism is not clinically considered a mental problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:11 AM
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No, it isn’t. A relationship is a whole package. It’s sex, but it’s also romantic and emotional exclusivity. It’s sharing the most intimate parts of your lives and supporting each other through everything. Wanting all this with someone is absolutely the ultimate sign of respect. Many women seem to have a strange habit of assuming men only mean sex and not those other things when they talk about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:17 PM
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Heterosexual male sexuality inherently tends to be stronger/more intense than for women. This means most men view a much larger percentage of women as attractive than vice versa. It is difficult to be just friends with someone you are attracted to. There is nothing misogynistic or immature about a man embracing his sexuality. If anything, wanting to be more than friends with a woman is the ultimate sign of respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:09 PM
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I think there’s a major distinction to be drawn between simply being in friend groups with women / talking to them occasionally as acquaintances, and having very close female friends. The first scenario is completely natural for most straight men. The second one realistically poses significant challenges. People really need to stop demonizing male sexuality and acting like the only way a man could have difficulty having female friends is if he is immature or misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:11 PM
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Disagree. As a guy myself, even I will admit the majority of young men don’t take good enough care of themselves to be attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:52 PM
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Why are you talking about this in such absolute terms? I simply said that there is a large, unacknowledged subset of people that struggling who are undiagnosed and that that’s a big problem, not that everyone who is struggling is autistic. Imagine if you were an autistic person who is constantly told that their issues are easily fixable and they just need to work on themselves, when in reality the problem is much deeper. Do you realize how much damage that does on a societal scale?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:11 PM
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I mean, it’s an established fact that certain conditions like autism are more prevalent than in the past mainly because they were underdiagnosed. What makes you think this trend isn’t going to continue?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:30 PM
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No, this is pretty much the exact opposite of misogyny. The notion that sex is a reward implies that you need to work hard to get it, which in turn implies that women have an immense amount of agency when determining who does and doesn’t “deserve” it. It’s basically saying that women have all the power and men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:18 PM
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The things you mention are extremely recent developments and the fact that men’s loneliness is largely a result of societal factors isn’t yet widely accepted. Historically, men have been the ones told that their issues are solely their fault and women have been the ones society has rushed to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:42 PM
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Uh, it’s the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:41 PM
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I mean, from what I’ve seen, the mods here do a very good job of quickly removing any incel or incel-adjacent content for this exact reason. I’d argue the sub is large enough that Reddit already would have banned it if they were going to.
/r/MensRights02/02/24 04:10 AM
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Tradcon means traditionalist conservative. OP never said anything about traditionalist Catholicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:56 PM
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It may technically matter but it’s so negligible now that we don’t need to behave like it does. The notion that men’s lives are less valuable because of biology is completely antithetical to men’s rights.
/r/MensRights25/01/24 02:58 PM
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The “biological value” argument was a reasonable point of view hundreds or thousands of years ago when human society was small, poorly developed, and easily susceptible to being wiped out completely. It is not a reasonable point of view now.
/r/MensRights25/01/24 12:05 AM
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But economic productivity and relationships are strongly intertwined. There’s much less motivation to be productive if you don’t have anything outside of that to live for.
/r/MensRights11/01/24 03:55 PM
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Definitely 1 and 3
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:39 PM
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I personally have an issue with the idea of entering into a relationship that you know from the very beginning will be temporary. On the other hand, if you’re open to being together indefinitely and it just doesn’t work out for whatever reason, that’s just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:36 PM
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No. We are advanced and populous enough as a species that we can afford to, and should, do things that are not evolutionarily advantageous if it can maximize equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:54 PM
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Yes, but I feel like there’s a big difference between just telling small lies in everyday life to make interactions flow better and basing an entire relationship off of one. The whole reason a man would lie about sexual experience is that a woman might reject him upon learning he has none, and it seems to me that lying about that would give a relationship a very fragile foundation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:37 PM
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I’m using “all” as somewhat of a generalization. Obviously there are always some with different views, but the general pattern I observed in that comment seems pretty clear to anyone familiar with this subreddit and it raises questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:25 PM
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Yeah, as a sexually inexperienced guy myself it’s frustrating and would me in a very weird position. Like, on one hand, starting off a relationship with a lie isn’t something I would be comfortable with and would want to avoid if at all possible, but if it turns out that it’s absolutely the only way I would ever be able to have a relationship, I would be willing to do it. All I’m trying to figure out is exactly how true the idea that being inexperienced is a red flag is so I can be informed enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:51 PM
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You see, this is interesting. OP asserted that it isn’t a red flag and all the women in the comments are saying it, in fact, is. But with other posts on this topic where the OP asks if it’s a red flag rather than claiming it isn’t, all the women say it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:16 PM
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The problem is that, often, it does start as a genuine friendship and the guy develops feelings later on, but the woman refuses to believe this and instead thinks she was being led on the entire time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:02 PM
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Despite the fact that the latter option is the only reasonable solution…
/r/MensRights03/12/23 01:17 AM
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I believe the last one is called a “vocal fry”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:59 AM
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Because we’re all humans and sex and relationships are important parts of the human experience. Do you really think society could have come as far as it has if people only cared about themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:33 PM
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Isn’t TRP exactly what this sub is trying not to be? It’s just unbridled incel content and makes men who want to constructively discuss these issues look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:25 PM
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I mean sure, people obviously aren’t legally entitled to it, but I think it’s safe to say it’s a pretty central part of the human experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:57 AM
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https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/2012-03/Publications_NSVRC_Overview_False-Reporting.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 01:37 PM
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Between 2 and 10% of accusations overall are false, so lower than that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:42 AM
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It’s 2-10%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:37 AM
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I think the vast majority of men are in the second category.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:03 PM
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If they believed those things, it would basically be impossible for them to be a Nazi or KKK member.
/r/MensRights30/05/23 04:22 PM
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So he just won’t get any compensation? I would say $1 million/year in prison at a minimum would be fair.
/r/MensRights09/05/23 02:23 PM
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Personally, I think the feminist movement initially had genuinely good intentions and advocated for necessary changes. The problem is that it has gone on for too long without a mainstream, well-established counter-movement. Because of this, it has gradually moved away from equality and towards female supremacy. It’s just human nature to push for special treatment at the expense of others in the absence of a healthy opposition.
/r/MensRights05/01/23 02:33 AM
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I don’t think either is really more likely.
/r/MensRights17/12/22 11:37 PM
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This isn’t something that should ever be judged “at a glance.”
/r/MensRights17/12/22 11:34 PM
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