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Who is Susan Walsh? The evidence for your make believe chart is your own writing and a story about actresses' pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 08:17 PM
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The fact you need to use George Clooney (no outlier there) as an example to defend this simply illustrates how ridiculous it is. That has all the value of pointing to Sofia Vergara and claiming 40 year olds are every bit as sexually attractive as 25 year olds. This chart is nothing more than an transparent attempt to give his core audience - young guys struggling with women a sense of false hope that those hot 23 year olds ignoring them today soon will be begging for their alpha-ness. It's an "I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 01:17 PM
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I would suggest it's contextual, based significantly on the observer and the type of relationship sought. The "peak" in the eyes of a 21-year-old college student looking for a short-term relationship is going to vary quite a bit from that of a 28-year-old woman looking to settle down. Though, in neither case would a 38-year-old man be the peak. People looking to settle down overwhelmingly do so within their age group (77 percent of married couples are within 5 years, 33 percent within 1 year). I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 04:17 PM
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My favorite is his "sexual market value' chart which suggests I ought to be more sexually attracted to 15-year-old girls than 30-year-old women. Hooray for jail bait. Also awesome is that the same chart says guys peak at 38. Keep telling yourself that, guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 02:29 PM
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That's quite a straw man you've concocted. But when you take a moment to read what I've written, and not what you want to argue against, you'd see there's nothing contradictory there. The previous post was in response to a claim that a college degree no longer has much value and that perhaps someone who doesn't go to college - and therefore avoids student loan debt - will have more status. The numbers say otherwise. Do you disagree? If so, tell me why. The second related to why fewer men attend …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 10:05 PM
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So men choosing to become auto mechanics and plumbers are doing so because they're being excluded from college. Hmmm. You're going to have provide some support for that. Also, do you think women aren't entering STEM fields because they're being excluded? Or is that argument only go one way?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 08:44 PM
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Of course, you ignore the fact that a good amount of this discrepancy is that men are substantially more likely to choose a career that doesn't require a college degree, i.e. the trades, manufacturing, the military, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 06:55 PM
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It never happened to you, therefore it's never happened. There's a word for this type of thinking. Begins with an 'S.'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 05:15 PM
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You can think that all you want, but people who've actually taken the time to run the numbers have found that those with a bachelor's on average earn more than $1 million over their lifetime than those with only a high school diploma, and those with a master's earn more than $2 million more. Also, the average student loan debt for a 2013 college grad was about $29,000 .... not even a fifth of what you suggest. So, in summary ..... $1 million >>>>>> $30,000
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 02:57 PM
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Right, but the marriage rate has fallen because the lower and working classes are no longer marrying at levels they had in the past. It's not because those uppity educated women and their hypergamy just can't/won't find a man who's worthy. Marriage rates among the upper and middle classes have remained relatively unchanged over the past three decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 02:07 AM
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Great. That supports my point even further. Highly educated women - the ones who TRP's version of hypergamy says shouldn't be able to settle because there aren't enough high-status men to go around - are, in fact, settling and remaining settled. The people who aren't getting married, and who are getting divorced when they do wed, are the less-educated people of lower status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:40 AM
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Educational hypergamy seems sorta relevant in a thread when the OP deals specifically with intelligence. Although it's an imperfect correlation, educational attainment often coincides with other indicators of status, i.e. wealth, power, prominence. Again, it's imperfect, but strong chances are a guy with an MBA from a top 20 program will have more status than a high school grad. Isn't TRP's whole argument in this regard that women's hypergamy won't allow them to settle? And yet at the same time …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:09 AM
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Well, for discussion's sake, here's a much more recent study that suggests that hypergamy actually declines in societies when women become as educated as men. In fact, the authors go as far to suggest that if current trends continue, hypergamy could disappear altogether. http://paa2011.princeton.edu/papers/110915 edit: Just thinking more about the study you posted, though it's interesting, I'm not sure how much value it has now. Unless my math is terrible ( a distinct possibility) it would seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 11:34 PM
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It's hard to believe anyone accuses TRPers of acting entitled, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 06:34 PM
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So .... you start your post calling others' experiences a lie, then wrap it up by whining that your experience is being denied. Hypocritical much? Or should we just chalk it up to TRP solipsism?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 03:24 PM
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Honestly, I don't recall ever seeking advice about dating, relationships, etc. ... and certainly not from my mother, a pop song or a TV show. I could say I modeled the behavior of successful peers, but that would be overstating things. Mostly I just did the things I wanted to do, and built relationships with people who had similar interests. No pills - red or blue - required.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 10:52 PM
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Do you at least recognize the irony of arguing that you're the "opposite of shirking responsibility" in the same sentence as you claim "they did this to us?" Others have made the case for this here more eloquently than I, but while you may truly believe society misled you about what women find attractive, that's a very different experience from what many of us had, and not the universal you wish it to be. I went to a school where the jocks and good-looking guys with the coolest cars went out wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 10:25 PM
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Because TRP men are now analogous to children? I thought it was women who were supposed to be children. So very confused ....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 09:37 PM
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Because teen comedies are always the best places to look for real world relationship advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 08:37 PM
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Blaming your lack of success with the opposite sex on bad advice and society - a constant underlying theme of TRP - is the very definition of not owning one's failures. Frankly, this is one of the cult-ish aspects of TRP. "Society has lied to you. Everyone around you has hidden the truth. But we can open your eyes if only you swallow our Kool Aid. ... er, red pill."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 08:34 PM
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You perfectly illustrate my point about blaming "bad advice" instead if oneself for one's failures. Thanks for that. That fact that you consider "treat women like people" a trope and lump it in with bad advice is pretty telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 08:15 PM
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As a man - I mean, male - all my life, I've never received the kind of bad advice that TRP always complains about. No one ever told me just to be nice, to always be deferent to women, etc. When this trope comes up - and it always does - I literally have no idea what you're on about. It may very well be your experience, but it's certainly not the universal you all claim it is. My theory is that a lot of guys say this because it allows them to avoid taking responsibility for their lack of success.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 06:56 PM
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That study doesn't say anything remotely close to what you're claiming it does. When you post a link as "evidence" of your position, do you think people aren't going to bother to read it and assume you have support? That study concerns sexual frequency only, and even its authors concede that sexual frequency does not equal sexual satisfaction, much less relationship satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 04:37 PM
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That link in no way supports what you claimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 05:29 AM
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You're missing the point. Intentionally, I suspect. (And hope). TBP isn't about helping you get laid, or solving any of your life's other woes. It isn't about offering you advice, proselytizing a way of life or pushing a philosophy. It exists simply to mock you. You may not like that - I probably wouldn't either - but griping that they won't engage you in the manner you wish seems silly. Sheesh ... when you read " A Modest Proposal" and "Animal Farm" as a kid did you complain that the authors di…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 12:42 AM
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Your mom, your LTR, your friends AND your co-workers? Wow. I wonder if there might be, you know, a common denominator in your relationships with all these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 04:14 AM
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For the same reasons people try terrible fad diets, read "The Secret," fall for pyramid schemes and buy penis enlargement pills online. Some people are naive and gullible. And when naive and gullible people get desperate, they are susceptible to schemes that promise they'll get laid/get rich/ get skinny/get happy if only they follow the secret and revolutionary formula being sold.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/14 01:55 AM
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It always gets a chuckle out of me when TRP guys claim a common trope that's been a staple of women's magazines for decades - i.e. some women like "bad boys," women are attracted to confidence - and try to rebrand it as some newfound "red pill" concept. Like seriously, if you're reading it in Redbook, a 100-year-old publication geared toward married women in their 30s and 40s, how rad can this concept really be? Regardless, I found no mention there of established TRP concepts like: - women can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 02:06 AM
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Women are illogical, but also pragmatic. Women are irrational, but totally Machiavellian. Women are natural-born manipulators, but easy to compromise. Good thing nobody ever accused TRP of being remotely consistent in their views.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/14 08:42 PM
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Seems to contradict that whole Wall thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 08:14 PM
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I believe it's been fairly well argued (and documented ... see: "A Billion Wicked Thoughts") that what one gets off to while watching porn is not always reflective of one's real life desires. After all, the primary consumer of "transsexual" porn are heterosexual men. And a significant amount of gay porn consumers are heterosexual women. And, of course, there's the already mentioned rape fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 07:46 PM
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F233747740_How_much_do_narcissists_really_like_themselves_Using_the_bogus_pipeline_procedure_to_better_understand_the_self-esteem_of_narcissists%2Ffile%2F79e4150b0ebc10ed50.pdf&rct=j&q=myers%20western%20carolina%20narcissism%20inferiority&ei=yiMOU_iAHoLmqgGmkoCIBQ&usg=AFQjCNH8CE-PqxtB--3V_NEAwnGjB8OWCQ (Working off my mobile and first time linking here, so apologies if that doesn't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 05:41 PM
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Do you agree with findings that suggest self-aggrandizement is often a cover for low self-esteem and feelings of inferiority?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 09:26 PM
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