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I think the male loneliness epidemic is misunderstood. I cannot speak for all men though. I think that different types of men became interested in niche interests that general society found hard to relate with. Interests like Bitcoin and the economics behind it (which is very individualistic), machine learning and AI, computer programming, electronics, trading financial instruments. These are interests that make you see other people like people living in a Matrix of ignorance. It can be difficul…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:24 PM
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This is true. Biologically, how do women get things that require heavy lifting done for them? By covert control (or overt control via mechanization or paying to get something done) And this is perfectly okay. It is nature. Men are very susceptible to the validation (or lack of it) from women. And this is how nature balances things out. This need for validation is blinding. Something happened that made men seek validation elsewhere and from their inner selves. No violence, no patriarchy, no force…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:27 AM
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Opportunity cost analysis. Even the high earners are sitting at home. They have better things (not all of them) to do with their time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:18 AM
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I have not denied the existence of such men. In fact, a lot of men are behind in adjusting to what is the present reality. Women who are on the other end of the spectrum are not making this self discovery any easier (benevolent patriarchy). However, the number of men adjusting is growing year-on-year.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:19 AM
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Their independence makes things so much easier. Even gives you space to prepare for child birth and foreseeable life events. I am cautions of people who lead with self-proclaiming statements. If you are who you think you are, I'll will see it, you won't have to tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:31 AM
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Well adjusted men have no problem with women being independent and successful even more than them themselves. The problems well adjusted men have are; Obnoxiousness that some girl bosses have. Boy bosses have this obnoxiousness too and even fellow men don’t like being around them. Little to no proportionate reciprocation Not seeing value in other ways that men can contribute. I once dated a woman in a high paying field. She earned thrice what I was making at the time and I did not have a car. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 08:58 AM
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Where there is supply, there is demand. If men stopped watching and paying for OF, it wouldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:57 PM
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This is funny because its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:18 PM
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You are a beacon of wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:27 PM
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His role? What’s her role? Let’s drop roles and do what the circumstances and preferences demand. Do what you want to do. Be with the person you feel good being with and doesn’t stop you from meeting your goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:55 PM
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> Most men are in relationships or chasing after women. The ones in bad relationships that leave them worse off are saying and will say the same thing about the juice. The ones chasing after women will say the same thing when they realize how much time and resources they have wasted if they do not find the right kind of juice. An orange farmer does not abandon farming oranges because of one or two bad oranges, but when only a few good oranges can be found in an entire harvest severally, it is re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:14 AM
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> Then what are you arguing about? Men are finding it harder and harder to find the kind of juice I have described and thus making it not worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:00 AM
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I love and have relationships (romantic or otherwise) with people who respect my missions in life, support them (not only with words), recognize what certain actions and asks affect them and compensate/reciprocate. I do the same in return. Anything that sets me away from my path and is not compensated for is what is not worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:47 AM
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Love - What is love? Sex - is sex really all that? Companionship - Define companionship. Are you a man? If you are, do you have a purpose for yourself that does not involve dating, relationships, marriage and family? I'm not saying not to have them, but do you have something else you are working towards apart from those? Would you put it at risk for those?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:31 AM
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Let's start by clarifying what do men get from dating, relationships and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:20 AM
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Men are hornier, more easily excitable than women and are more into the very concept of "women" then women are into "men". Sounds more like unconditional lust to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:24 PM
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Or they could not engage with men, live single, provide and take care of themselves if they get nothing from sex. If you want to sell, no one is stopping you, but you should also not stop those that value sex as a sign of connection/love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:49 PM
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I think this would result to in-breeding after several cycles/generations. I don't know if these traits they are looking for are what all women would want but I am assuming that most women would find those traits desirable and thus reducing gene diversity after several generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:21 PM
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So when you read stuff from angry men, just understand them. There was a post here about the 5 stages of grief and different men are at various stages. Some are in denial, some are bargaining, others have already gone through depression and have fully accepted that their generosity and compromise will never be reciprocated, have written down the loss and found purpose in other things. I don’t know what it means for women as more and more men check out. We’ll just have to wait and see. Edit: men …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:39 PM
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And that is the lesson men are learning and going their own way. Why lead in generosity when it will not be reciprocated?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:26 PM
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Would it be fair if men refused to engage with women unless they met the above? I think men feel the scales are not balanced because they are flexible when women do not meet the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:11 PM
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I agree with everything apart from the part where you said that a woman can’t fix anything, that they can only destroy. I agree that many men, especially when they are young confuse access to sex for being in a life relationship. I continually encourage men to find a life purpose that does not involve women or children. The part of your brain that is more developed than reptilian instincts needs it. Otherwise you will be a feather in the wind. To have a family, you must be coming from a point of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:19 PM
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Hold up! Women have social networks with dating as the main goal? Interesting. I mostly have friends to have a good time with. Fun playing video games, fun being in car clubs, fun playing sports, fun geeking out over audio equipment, music and whiskey collections. Out of these activities commercial connections sometimes arise, but they are not my goal and neither is dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:16 PM
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I saw a YouTube video of this guy that has gotten gains at the gym, cut his debt in half and stopped smoking (because he no longer stresses) since he decided to stop dating. I think a peaceful life in which you focus on yourself is enough purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:22 PM
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Young men checking out is already happening at an accelerating rate. And they are not doing it in revenge or anything, it is for their peace of mind especially now that there is no stigma to being a single man till death and are more immune to shaming. Even a white feather campaign would not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:12 PM
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Even works of literature have a formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:58 PM
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Not look like Macklemore. Got it! And yes, this does not apply to all women. We are collecting data here. Thank you for your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:41 PM
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We are trying to bring the subconscious to the conscious. What attracted you to him and what made you stay? It is not going to be the same for everyone, but with enough data a pattern may emerge.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:03 PM
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The question you are avoiding is, what makes them stand out?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:53 PM
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All the people saying that there is no ranking are lying because those they are not attracted to automatically rank lower than those they are attracted to. OP would have had better answers if he/she had asked what makes women go ‘yay!!!’ and what makes them go ‘eww’.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:52 PM
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So you don’t know what you are looking for? Perhaps if we approached the question with what you don’t want then we can infer what you do want. What are the qualities that you do not want?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:53 PM
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The more men choose to pull away, the more introspective they become. In fact, introspection is what makes them pull away. More intellectually aware men will prevent this. They have more to lose by letting a small group of men pull down their peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:01 PM
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There’s the law and law enforcement to deal with extremists. As you said, majority of men are very logical beings. Despite pulling away, the law remains the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:56 PM
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A search through social media will confirm this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:15 PM
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Or, and hear me out, they could (and are) walking way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:05 PM
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So by .." more taxes, more regulation, more resources being taken away".. you're referring to dating and household economics. Ok Had forgotten that second paragraph. But women are more inclined to be on the receiving end. They are more social and more agreeable to taxes and social programs, while men are more "go out there and conquer." They just want to be freed to do that and keep a big majority of what they conquer. The idea is not one person being the sole breadwinner but sharing responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:44 AM
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I did not mean taxes or national economics, I meant dating and household economics. - Expectation that the man is the one that pays on dates. - The preference for the male only provider role.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:49 PM
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Ignore all those voices making a big deal of it than it actually is. If you follow the OP's advice, you will have as many options as you want soon. You think life is fun in your 20's, wait till you are in your 30's or 40's and have made the right moves in life; if you manage to not get snagged in your late 20's and early 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:07 PM
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I do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:58 PM
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I have never said that women should not be hypergamous. And men too should not hold back their desires. I respect the game and the players as long as they accept the outcomes of their moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:44 PM
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Is he obligated to? He dates who he pleases.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:30 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:09 PM
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He's not, but he's also not the same person. He's also accumulated some life experience and is now aware of his value. He is now enjoying the optionality that the younger girls enjoyed. Should he be stopped from enjoying his options?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:57 PM
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To maintain control of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:14 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 07:58 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:51 PM
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Women rose from all that, men can too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:02 PM
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No problem. Men just need to value themselves more and walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:48 PM
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Not if we raise our prices/standards. We need to get used to getting shunned by women who want to stick to traditional roles and expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:31 AM
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Hey, they fought for the role. Let's give them a chance and see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:05 PM
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To make it clear, traditional gender roles and expectations should be forgotten. See this person as a human. In the areas where biology takes effect, accept it, where it doesn't, move past gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:00 PM
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100% 100 bleeming percent and thus the need to do away with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:56 PM
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Should a physically strong man take pride in being the strongest slave?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:52 PM
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And men still expected to pick up the bills. I agree that some people are different, but the statement holds for the majority currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:27 PM
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<image> What is the reality when it comes to the opportunity of income generation? And why does she say that it only works on naive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:13 PM
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Nope, its the sticking to them despite the equality of opportunity that women fought so hard for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:09 PM
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Do you agree that she is using traditional gender roles to gasligt men to provide for her and her three kids? She "forgets" that women have equal opportunity in income generation. Also, were the fathers of her children "real men" when they left the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:07 PM
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Not having to deal with this kind - https://www.facebook.com/share/v/M5D9YUfZsycbPJcn/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:55 PM
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The forgetting about traditional gender roles and expectations. Men too need to work towards forgetting these.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:08 PM
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What is there? And what is there that can not be done with machines including body exoskeletons?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:02 PM
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What happens when there is nothing more that requires physical strength to build? As it is in the current times?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:18 AM
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What can't a woman do on her own or with the help of fellow women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:43 AM
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Men are disposable and want to make themselves useful. Deep down, they know women can do without them. I myself accepted this, I hope the others will in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:10 PM
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I did not say fucking. And you too should tell us whether this boy only wanted to fuck you or was trying to establish a relationship with you. Was he trying to establish a relationship with you? Also, I am not asking about having safety, I am asking about you, yourself putting yourself in danger for another person. Are you able to say, "I LilithOfBabylon will put myself in danger for this person"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 02:47 PM
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It takes a relationship to be more ready to put oneself in uncomfortable or inconvenient or dangerous situations on behalf of another. This is not a men only or women only thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:28 PM
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Alright. Don't forget about the claiming. If situation were reversed, would you put yourself in danger for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:20 PM
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Forget about the claiming bit, would you be prepared to put yourself in danger for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:11 PM
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If the dangerous situation were reversed and he was the one in danger, what would you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 01:03 PM
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Children, yes. Wealth, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 07:17 PM
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I may be wrong, but you do not need to be in a relationship or a marriage to build wealth. Spinning plates will inhibit or slow down your wealth building, so on that one, avoid if you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:29 PM
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LTRs are not are not smooth all the time and are not smooth/do not work for all people. I suspect it is the people in them or have been in them that pass on the wrong or incomplete messages. These messages then get amplified and distorted in a bad case of broken telephone. Traditional expectations that do not apply to current times that are amplified and romanticized in books and media exacerbate the situation. The point about wrong/incomplete messages brings Orion Taraban's interpretation of Cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:32 PM
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Long-term relationships are majorly about breaking those stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 01:32 PM
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I'm glad we could agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:35 PM
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Does this make it any less true?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:17 PM
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So it's a hedge against the possibility of receiving the same treatment should your circumstances become similar to the subject. I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:11 PM
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Two videos: 1. Who is a ten - https://youtu.be/PQtdOuD4cLc?si=Y27oGtHCw4je7azU Hive mind - https://youtu.be/Eft4H62DjL4?si=k1TnVkzLGLqNsU_k
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:06 PM
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A very surprising, direct, honest, and correct answer. I'm impressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:05 PM
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It is okay to point out the faults women have. It is not okay to preach hate against them. It is better for men to cultivate a purpose for life that does not involve women, including hating them. The redpill package would be better if religion and tradition were excluded. It would be better if the package stuck to self-improvement, the recognition of female manipulation, and how not to be taken advantage of and just leaving women to do whatever they want as long as they don't bother men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:52 AM
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Reciprocation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:05 PM
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Given what dogs do when they sense fear, I think bears will do worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:28 AM
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It’s because the hookup guy has the qualities that would probably get him the closest to conditional loyalty as possible. What if he loses them? Say health issues and/or financial issues The “husband guy I think you confuse simps for "husband guys". It is one thing to be a simp and another to be husband. I agree that women hate simps. How will they stand up for women when they can't even stand up for their own wellbeing? Admirable men know how to stand up for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 08:00 PM
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That's not unique to women though. 75% of all people believe that men should be providers. I'm definitely against that mindset but men believe that too. Women reinforcing and taking advantage of this is not helping. Let's help each other, even when we stand to lose the advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:57 AM
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I agree that cooking, cleaning, and taking care of the kids are responsibilities that should be shared in the case where both sre working. A growing share of men are doing this - https:/np.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/s/nIH43YeWCU
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:31 AM
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Sadly, some women look for masculinity and status order to give the latter and might withdraw if they diminish. To be fair, some men do the same with beauty and youth. It's all a gamble, but both can prove their loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:09 PM
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It's about being desired for what we can't get. I'm having a bit of trouble understanding this part. Personally, I'd rather have one woman who I don't have to worry about her leaving me if I had a down turn in life. Esp if I reamined the same emotionally stable person I was before the down turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:51 PM
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Nice enumeration. The men's movements have been accused of being incoherent. It is not legal rights we are fighting for. It is emotional egalitarianism that we are requesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:31 PM
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I wouldn't say that men want to be sex objects, they just want reasonable conditional loyalty. I say reasonable conditional loyalty because loyalty should not be expected in extreme cases such as abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:18 PM
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I see where you are coming from. Perhaps the outcomes of those bubble conversations can be shared. But one thing is clear, the issues will not be dismissed or invalidated, esp the equality of opportunity, and yet the expectation of gender roles of the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:03 PM
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Why should a man be with a woman who doesn't improve his life in some way? Which leads to a second question: What ways can a woman improve a man's life? I am very curious about the answer to this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 08:10 PM
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It's not a trap. It's reality. The main fault I find in women is that they (most) are not situationally aware. They now have equality of opportunity but have not let go of gender roles of the past. If you dig deep into what men are saying and sift out the malformed ideas and utterances, it boils down to this. I am also not saying that men don't have work to do on themselves. Edit: Men also need to let go of gender roles of the past and pick up some roles that were delegated to women, such as hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:38 PM
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First answer my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:28 PM
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No bubbles. They can dismiss and invalidate all they want, but it does not change that the feelings and issues are there. Best thing men can do is continue sharing, to continue fixing the valid issues that women point out in men, but not give women what they want until they fix the valid issues that men point out. Both genders have things on their ends to fix. By being in bubbles, we create the mindsets that we are perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:27 PM
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I agree with everything apart from men-only spaces. Let everything that is being said be open to everyone and be critiqued. Let's not create bubbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:10 PM
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Do you agree that women have faults? Should men talk about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:45 PM
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100% It's collective bargaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:31 PM
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Aren't men encouraged to talk more?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 05:07 PM
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Would you advise the American poor to move to poorer countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:22 PM
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> The regulations they want to get rid of are the ones that protect your pay, your overtime, your benefits. And you do not see how these regulations have led to the shutting down of small businesses, make it harder for new business to enter and stay in the market and how these regulations only protect the mega corporations that can afford to meet them? Edit: Just look that the campaign funds, Kamala Harris - around 1 Billion USD, Donald Trump - around 300 million USD. The billionaires supported …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:35 PM
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- Absolute levels of wealth. Literally, the average American has more material wealth that more than half the people in the world envy. If you look at the most war ravaged countries in Africa they have one thing in common, the government owns the land.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:31 PM
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Nope, the OP is really about women not reciprocating economically. Ignore the old men who have refused to change their ways, men these days are okay with doing their share of housework. Some cook, clean and keep tidy and the number is increasing by the years, but most women would get the ick when the man makes less than her. Amazingly it is the left leaning policies that have resulted in the decline of men's financial status. More taxes, more regulation, more resources being taken away from them…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:03 PM
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View it as them justifying their vote and shocked that you did not see the rationale behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:51 PM
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Abortion was the 3rd in the priority of consideration. They did not vote against abortions, they voted for the economy and borders. The free market policies of the right appealed to them. They rationalized tariffs as a good response to the non-reciprocation of the chinese and their intellectual property theft. It is easy to see why they voted the way they did. Edit: There is no anger. It is simple self-interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:26 PM
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> Thomas Sowell is one of the great economists... He is one of the most positively reacted to free market economists on YouTube. The people are beginning to see that what feels good in the short term, is not what IS good in the long term. Men are able to see this faster and are willing to endure the short term hang over of getting of the socialist high. After all, don't men go through the 'building value' stage already?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:39 PM
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I don't think many people here see this. Given the number of positive reaction videos to videos about free market capitalism I have seen by young people and men on Youtube, it is easy to see why they voted the way they did. About tariffs, many rationalize this by viewing China as an intellectual property thief and as a non-reciprocator in the free markts agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:26 PM
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> Is property more important or are lives more important? Theft is inexcusable. Asking for help is not. Going by your property not being more important than lives argument, then people with means would and are willing to assist or come to an arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:20 PM
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We're talking about random rich man that assists you in getting the med(s) from Walgreens. > People die in the USA because they can’t afford insulin. People lacking means is a result of other factors that would require another debate by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:09 PM
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> You sacrifice because you Love the child You stay their parent because you love them You are their father because you love them. but you said ... > when they grow up they start to comprehend the sacrifices and appreciate what you do and are forever grateful. Is it because you love the child or is it because of the expectation of appreciation from the grown up child? Also, is it because of an expectation of appreciation from society? > If we are gunna stray off then- my oldest is a foster who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:06 PM
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> when they grow up they start to comprehend the sacrifices and appreciate what you do and are forever grateful. So you are sacrificing on the expectation of appreciation? Will you force the grown up child to appreciate you? Straying into the dark here now, the biological father sure would appreciate you, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:29 PM
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There is always something to trade including servitude to the rich man. If we are going to bring it morality, the rich man should have the morality to assist esp. when servitude is offered. Even in the Bible (which you may or not believe in) the mother to child that Elijah healed saw it better to sell oil.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:23 PM
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> gets the love for a lifetime Love of a lifetime? Love a lifetime? Who loves another and does not consider the anguish this brings the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:13 PM
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> If a father steals a loaf of bread from a wealthy man for his starving child, yes that is morally correct. What incentive is being created in such a case. Also, why not just ask the rich man for help?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:07 PM
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The child is the beneficiary of the theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:00 PM
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A person commits theft for the sake of his/her family's welfare, should it be excused?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:54 PM
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I see your points, and by removing all emotions, I agree with them. However, I'd advise men not to become better men only for sex. Get fit because it improves your life. Get muscle so that you may be able to do stuff. Learn to fight so that you may defend yourself should need arise. Get money so that you may experience the goodness of material things. Invest for future security. Do all these for you and do it in surplus. The only thing that is hard to find a "do it for you" justification is deve…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:33 PM
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The effects of this is that men will actually raise their value. I just hope they don't fall back into the pussy trap and get suckered into the current foolishness. It is clear that women are not good with reciprocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:43 PM
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If a child who has no means to execute what he/she says makes hateful comments, should it be excused?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:16 PM
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When will women be okay with equality in the relationship scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:31 AM
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The vote can be summarized like this; Bread/dignity/economy over sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:58 PM
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Bread over sex. Literally. I am so proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:22 PM
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After being shamed for not being providers, being seen as monsters, chants like 'kill all men' growing louder, would you blame them for prioritizing their economic well-being? Edit:If there ever was a mass demonstration of Men Going Their Own Way, this was it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:09 PM
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I wonder why the focus is on women? Have you considered that the economy and borders might have taken higher priority in their voting decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:50 PM
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There's a video of Vivek Ramaswamy reacting to Thomas Sowell with a group of young black men. That should tell you a lot about how the young men are approaching economics. Edit: and other social issues such as race and gender. They are leaving all that opressed/oppressor shit and just want to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:43 PM
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The reason men feel cheated is that they got sold equality of opportunity and partnership, but when it comes to relationships, they feel put down. Can't have relationships if they are poorer, are despised, and are seen with contempt. Who appreciates being hated? Trump won because of the economy and boarders. Men just want to create value for themselves and have some dignity. It was an economic decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:40 PM
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When will the roar happen? The same way feminine began in small pockets and grew. I do not know a single person outside of reddit who has heard of kill all men Youtube has. And it's the only place I've searched so far. If i do a general web search, I'll find more. If this idea remains unchecked, it will be found on the streets as a protest chant. Edit: It's been popping up on Quora - https://www.quora.com/Why-is-kill-all-men-feminism-but-kill-all-women-sexist Edit: There is a podcast on Spotify …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:00 PM
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They are synonyms. My experience with groups is that a chant begins with one or two people, grows into a roar, and the group becomes uncontrollable. Think of our daughters consuming such words, and then one day, they come into possession of a firearm. Words repeated become doctrine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:51 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:42 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:29 AM
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This comment is underrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:14 AM
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Typically it is men that do the approaching. Women have the chance, but they don't take this up a lot. In my view, the one who suggests the first date, pays for the first date. And since men do most of the approaching, they typically pay for the first date. Yes I am aware that there are those that ask to go 50/50, but this is being lame if he is the one that suggested the date. Having said that, tell me how all men do is take? In the case above where the man approached, organized the date and pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:28 AM
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If by stuff you mean only material things, tell me how you concluded that from me saying "contributing towards my life". Also, isn't that what relationships are? Contributing towards each other's lives? But before we get to that point, I want to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:00 AM
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Speaking as a man, this is partially true. It's biology. However, when my girl started contributing towards my life, I fell in love with her. I naturally started contributing to her life and it became our life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:36 AM
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A response would require a debate on the role and scope of government in economics; something that may take long. But I will say this, the 2008 financial crisis was a result of many policies aimed at subsidizing housing. The cherry on top was Bill Clinton signing the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. I am for whoever takes a step towards economic freedom and less for whoever promises government safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:25 AM
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Take into account policy lag. Dems inherit the effect of Rep's policies. Reps inherit problems from Dems' policies. Exceptions are Bush jnr who managed to escape the global financial crisis, whose origin was Bill Clinton, and Trump who because of covid, passed on inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:55 AM
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Women's biggest issue in the election is abortion. To which they can control by not having sex Men's biggest issue in the election is economics. The leaning towards anti-abortion is those things that you wish didn't come with the main thing, but sadly it did and so you just live with it. It wasn't even about Kama being a woman. Men, esp. young men, have been consuming a lot of economics material (YouTube stats can support this) that is free market and capitalism oriented. Who would've thought th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:00 AM
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Moreover, men have obligations to the state and gender/cultural based obligations to women. Some are breaking free from the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:26 AM
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This is the way. You show yourself and what you are, and then you wait for a reaction. If the reaction is not positive, you move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:14 PM
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If it did, it would be by coercion; something like a tax on the childless or a credit to the ones with children which is still a tax on the childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:36 PM
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Was that so hard to state? The effects of democratic socialism or even if the things brough up are still within democratic socialism fall into the realm of economics and I would be perfectly okay to end the discussion here. All I know is that more and more people are losing incentive to produce and are looking more and more to the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:17 PM
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So you agree that "Women overwhelmingly vote for things that destroy socioeconomic stability. Mass Immigration and Social Entitlement Programs increase Inflationary Spending, debate currency, and keep wages low. We do not get to this level of socialized decay without women voting. I suspect that we will never get back to a healthy status quo or population stability in my lifetime." ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:01 PM
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This is not a counter argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:15 PM
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I totally agree. I constantly tell men to - find purpose in life that is not women centered. You have one life, don't waste it chasing procreation. - Be involved in the making of laws that promote equality of opportunity and follow them. - Don't harm anyone or bring unnecessary trouble upon yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:10 PM
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I 100% agree with you. Attempting to advise men to put themselves first and to speak up when they are feeling cheated are met with comments about being selfish and being feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:55 PM
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You're not answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:49 PM
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Do you understand the 'co' in 'co-providing'?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:29 AM
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It is sad that you would equate this to being desperate. What entitles you to only receive and not give back? You might argue that you provide emotional support and other things, but so do men. What is love, if not giving?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:26 AM
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Why do you think men would not enjoy being taken of? I guarantee you that any men who are forced to pay (societal pressure or otherwise) are thinking of other things they would have done with that money. It's even worse when you consider that this woman has equal access to income generating opportunity as the man. The other person being of good company and trustworthy to reciprocate makes it worth it. The reciprocation does not have to be 50/50, but proportional and most importantly, a display o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:21 AM
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My ideal wife/girlfriend/partner is a co-provider and I would enjoy the partnership in providing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:24 AM
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As normal humans, why ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 04:49 PM
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I say to my dudes, it's not that serious. Live your life. Grow your life for you and no one else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:41 PM
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Men are checking out globally. They are pursuing ventures that are less time, money, and emotional energy consuming with higher if not comparable rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:00 AM
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Replace the words "safe option" with "back up plan," and we can have clearer discussions/debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:23 AM
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My last comment on this. Whatever reason you have for not approaching, that's on you, but you can not assume that you don't have anything in common with a person in a setting where a cold approach is the only option unless you approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:27 AM
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This response does not answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:56 AM
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How would you know that you would have anything in common if you did not approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:32 AM
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I'll take this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 09:01 AM
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A man she just met?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 08:59 AM
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I'm wondering, what would benevolent sexism towards a man look like? What things do women do to make men feel benevolently sexed?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 10:36 PM
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Correct. She must show that she's committed to getting me back and that she understands the gravity of her actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:28 PM
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If its the first time, she'd have to simp for me for a few years and then I'd consider. Forgiveness will cost her dearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:03 AM
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It worked. In many aspects I am ahead of my peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:46 PM
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I think the kids would turn out with strong senses of individuality, conscientiousness, and tolerance for the discomforts of life. Men's way of raising children is by empowering and less of protecting. Men will let their children fail as long as they learn from the failure. Many times my dad let and made me go through uncomfortable situations that made me a capable and dependable person now. He taught me how to fix stuff in the house or hold up the light as he worked on the car. I hated these, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:27 PM
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Even emotions can be broken down and analyzed logically. What I mean is someone who can recognize a feeling and see where its coming from and then help work towards a way forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:41 PM
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That is what you are reading into. That is your perception. I only said what I need. What I look for. They are not the majority, but they do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:58 PM
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Neither. Just want them to be be logical human beings that can communicate without yelling, condescension, have empathy, and be self and environmentally aware (financially aware, economically aware and politically aware)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:00 PM
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Best answer. I understand why men get uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable knowing your biological weakness is being used against you. It's like a dog to a whistle. It's also makes men embarrassed knowing that their bodies can react that way or their mental state affected. At worst, they feel taken advantage of. I don't know if anything can be done about it, and would women want this weakness turned off? I'm not saying that ladies should stop. They can do anything they want, I'm just admitting that…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:42 PM
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I am at that point in enlightenment where I say, do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 08:45 PM
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I like this discussion. Let's have more 'men uplifting themselves in issues not female related' topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:31 AM
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Let's see how it plays out. As long as it is well documented for the future and other generations, the world will set itself right. I suspect that you are a man. I'd suggest that you find other things to give your life purpose as they carry on with this experiment. You only have one life to live, don't waste it fighting the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:06 AM
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100%. So, equality of outcome is impossible but equality of opportunity is very much possible if emotions got out of the way. I think why a women dominated world would fall into either stagnation or slow decline because they would make decisions and policies aimed at equality of outcome. Being the supporter of equality of opportunity that I am, I welcome this experiment so that future generations can learn from it. If they succeed, well and good. If they don't, we learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:55 AM
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There is a growing number of men finding purpose in other things. Some of these other things ironically improve their attractiveness in the eyes of women. I think the solution is to encourage men to find purpose in other things apart from women and family. Positive things though, like; education and research (most men like solving puzzles), luxury, building businesses and companies, going to space and other planets etc. Just some non-women related purpose. I like luxury cars and audiophile equip…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:31 AM
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And that's where the world is going wrong. Changing the definition of words. It's about providing support to help individuals succeed, rather than treating everyone the same regardless of their starting point. This describes aiming for equality of outcome (success being the outcome in this example), which we agree is detrimental in the long run. The supported risk become getting addicted to the support and the people forced to support become resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:02 AM
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In summary, whoever is most competent gets authority (and I stress, including emotional competence) This is huge burden though, because no one can be the most competent at everything all the time. In relationships that work, authority shifts depending on subject matter and circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:53 AM
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I don't think you are using the word equity the right way. Google defines equity as "the quality of being fair and impartial." In the business world, equity it translates to "you get returns proportional to your investment". Invest more and get more returns. The phrase you are looking for is 'equality of outcome' which promotes that everyone should end up being and having the same outcome no matter how little or how much effort they put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:40 AM
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Does authority come from gender or from proven competence? Tywin Lannister : Any man who must say, "I am the king" is no true king. I'm using this phrase, but replace the gendered words with non gendered words like 'authority' and 'person of authority'. If a woman or even my woman partner proves to be more competent (including emotionally competent) than I am, then I go by what she says.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 08:31 AM
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