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Being into men is kind of gay Conceptually/vaguely I guess, but when we're talking about individual people, there are probably more bisexual people than homosexual people out there, and it's especially common for bisexual men to convince themselves that they're actually straight. The idea that a man can only really be attracted to men if he's an effeminate homosexual, or in other words that if a man likes women at all then he must be heterosexual and therefore his attraction to any other gender …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 01:41 AM
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Ok but what even counts as an attack?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 12:48 AM
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The claim being made is not "I wanted to transition because of trauma", but "I experienced gender dysphoria because of trauma". Did you accidentally swap those quotes? You don't know what OP felt and shouldn't try to gatekeep here. Where am I gatekeeping? I no claims whatsoever about OP's feelings, nor about why they must feel any particular way, nor about whether they're really trans or a certain gender. I wasn't even talking about them at all in the comment that you're responding to. That stat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 12:47 AM
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Are you seriously chastising me in this situation, in this subreddit of all places? What the other person is doing is an extremely common transmisandrist tactic of unnecessarily putting the focus on trans women in a way that not only erases the struggles of trans men but also actively supports our oppressors by playing into their narrative. Edit: Also, where am I "attacking" them? They're the one who started being rude with their "what the fuck you're talking about" comment, how is my sarcasm wo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/21 12:01 AM
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Explain?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/21 11:49 PM
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It doesn't matter if you get a million people, if they're all following the same twitter account, that's worse than a representative 250. If you want the general public's opinion, anyway. If you want to survey the followers of that twitter account then it's great.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 01:52 AM
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I know this post is over a week old, but TL;DR, here's some canned advice from someone who's seen your type many times already: No one can tell you whether you're actually trans or cis, a man or a woman, or anything else. No one can read your mind like that. There's no machine or blood test that can determine it for you either. The best anyone can do is observe their own situation as it unfolds and guess at the most accurate way to describe it. I guarantee you that every second you spend worryin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 01:44 AM
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even if you identify it as being trauma-caused, trauma-related, or something else which makes you think you were not always transgender in some way but we're made transgender by forces to which you were exposed, I don't think that it has to necessarily invalidate your identity as a possible transgender person It's fine to cope with trauma in whichever ways can be healthy. If that involves an altered relationship with one's sense of gender, that's fine. But saying that you've become a transgender…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 01:11 AM
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your gender dysphoria being caused by trauma wouldn't invalidate it It would still be "valid" in the sense that you can deal with your trauma however you see fit and there's no way for feelings themselves to be incorrect, but if your desire to transition was entirely brought on as a response to trauma, that's an inherently different thing from what trans people are typically talking about when we say "gender dysphoria", and confusing the two things is a bad idea for several reasons. For one, tra…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 12:50 AM
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250 isn't that bad, especially when it's not necessary to pin down the exact percentage values. What I'd be asking about is the demographics, are these 250 college kids? 250 followers of a particular blog? Or a random-ish, vaguely representative sample of some broader population?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 12:27 AM
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I don't think it's useful to say that a specific person "has toxic masculinity/femininity". You could note that someone's behaviour strongly fits a certain stereotype, but ultimately you don't know what's going on inside their head, so who knows what the reasons are for their behaviour specifically. However, looking at broad tendencies in society, I would think that it's useful to talk about "toxic whatever", or the same idea by any other name, as a general phenomenon that people will tend to be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/21 12:06 AM
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If we're going to be fair and wise about it, I don't think they have to be ridiculous. There's a difference between saying "all men/women are inherently X/Y" and saying "society has traditionally encouraged men/women to be X/Y". The traditional feminine role has primed women to use the way that they're perceived to get away with certain kinds of manipulative behaviours, just as the traditional masculine role has primed men to feel like they should engage in a certain kind of hostile power play, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 11:49 PM
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Your definition of "feminism" is bizarrely extreme and detached from reality. To conclude this interaction, I repeat, please touch some grass.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 11:24 PM
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Go outside and touch grass dude. Think of some poor girl far away who got knocked up by her uncle and has to marry him because she's now considered his property. Surely the most basic form of feminism would her at least help her? What are you even trying to accomplish with your absurdly absolutist anti-feminist ranting? What problems are you solving with that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 11:03 PM
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Um, that's more dramatic and extreme than I'd go for. Besides there being lots of different kinds of feminism, none of those kinds invented the problem. There have been women blaming all the world's woes on men since long before any form of modern feminism existed. Once the first waves started, they just picked up and carried along with them the baggage that was already there. Blaming everything on "feminism" implies that once upon a time society was free from all of these problems, but it never…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 10:54 PM
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TERFism and intersection feminism also aren't single coalitions, and I don't think it's useful to no-true-Scotsman the self-proclaimed "intersectional" TERFs when they're reading and writing much of the same theory, so they're not diametrically opposed either. [TERFs'] primary focus is attacking trans people and trans women in particular. That Awkward Moment When you shit on trans men in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 09:34 AM
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intersectional feminists, who see gender as a socially constructed spectrum The whole "gender is a social construct" thing is not always great for trans people, nor is it a uniquely intersectional feminist thing. There's a strain of TERFism, for example, that uses the social construction of gender to argue that the very notion of trans people being legit is misogynistic, though I won't get into that "logic" here. intersectional feminists, who [...] hate TERFs for oppressing trans women And their…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 09:12 AM
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The kind of woman who likes that trend smugly imagines a day without men as a vacation for herself, regardless of how much trouble she'd still have to deal with from female racists, ableists, classists, xenophobes, homophobes, transphobes, rapists, murderers, and so on. It is especially... interesting... to see women who think they're innocent of committing any misogyny themselves. It's a weird combination of narcissistically believing one's group superior and also being naively over-trusting of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/21 07:50 AM
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Whether the hormones come from your gonads or some pills, your cells don't know the difference, so your questions are irrelevant. Not that my personal medical history is any of your business, but: I had to take HRT to induce puberty because of my intersex condition, and it was feminizing HRT specifically because I was assigned female.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 07:48 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/21 05:45 PM
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If exclusive spaces for any single gender are allowed, then that's not a double standard. A double standard would be if women-only gyms were allowed but men-only gyms were banned.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 06:13 PM
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Surely, this post has been upvoted because it's an insightful look into a transfem enby's unique experience, and not because it's basically just a list of the generic things that most of the cis men in this sub already have as their personal top priorities but with a woke stamp of approval from a trans person. Surely Seth has a truly complete and balanced view of gender, having seen both sides and all, and couldn't possibly have any bias on the subject fueled by dysphoric resentment. I commented…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 06:02 PM
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I get why that’s true It isn't. Hardly anyone ever looks at someone and thinks "that's a non-passing trans man", but that's not because trans men all pass, it's because non-passing trans men just get read as trans women, butch cis women, or generically androgynous.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 05:30 PM
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testosterone being the stronger hormone non-passing, 7 years on T after only 4 years on E: X chromosome to doubt
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 05:25 PM
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The events we have no reason to disbelieve. What's faulty is assuming that someone's subjective feelings about those events reflect some universal truth. A combination of internalized misandry and the normal tendency to assume one's intuition should be obvious to anyone makes way too many AMAB trans people assume that everyone hates (or would hate) being a man. They confuse their instinctive discomfort with an assessment of inherent value, and this colours their perception of which gender it's "…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 05:22 PM
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Not sure if "article" is the best flair to use. Got distracted meandering through TVTropes and came across this page, and it strikes me as something that someone here would write. Besides the page itself, it also links to a whole bunch of related media tropes, of course. Currently too tired to read through everything thoroughly, so there may be some disputable takes, but overall I thought it was good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 05:05 PM
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Not "negotiate" as in "make compromises", necessarily (unless you want to). Just bring them up, keeping in mind that you're trying to learn whether you'd get along with someone (or why you haven't been getting along), not trying to win a debate with them over whose ideas are more fair. You certainly can debate people if that's what you want, but no matter how many debates you win, you can't logically prove that someone should marry you, and why would you want to marry someone if you think they'r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 03:53 AM
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women who "enjoy reading and learning and sometimes joining in the discussion when it feels appropriate" Yeah, pretty much any time feminism tries to show off how inherently "inclusive" it supposedly is of other issues, the situation quickly devolves into a circlejerk of feminists asking other feminists whether their feminism is feminist enough. How do we know the bible is the word of God? Easy, it's right there in the bible. Also, our company isn't exploiting our workers. Look, our self-adminis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/21 03:40 AM
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Feels like you're talking about a specific person. I'm really not. That kind of thing underlies a good chunk of "boomer humour", for example. also don't see how that specifically applies to straight marriages more so than gay marriages It doesn't inherently, it's just that IME people are more likely to become aware of the issue if they're not straight, since that impairs one's ability to take ideas about gendered relationship dynamics for granted. The presence or absence of kids doesn't affect t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 11:16 AM
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I don't think this situation is comparable to a wife complaining about her husband "not taking the trash out". I wasn't comparing them, so if that's your concern you're missing the point. It's irrelevant how justified you or I or he thinks he is. If you're just pointing it out as a possibility then never mind, I did write that example to have different understandable interpretations. I don't see what the two men in your examples could do better I'm pretty sure you are missing the point though. J…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 10:08 AM
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If you really want to insist that the topic of society's views on tomboys has no relation to the topic of how trans men are perceived as tomboys, IDK what else to say here. I already addressed the "BUT WHAT ABOUT PANT AND SKIRT?" argument so I don't believe that you've fully absorbed what I wrote. femboy (i.e. a feminine-presenting or even female-passing cis guy) Trans men can also be femboys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 07:22 AM
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If someone's preferences happen to line up with certain traditional roles, that's totally fine. In fact, it would benefit them to seek out compatible people instead of relying on vague assumptions of what relationships "should" be like. A man who complains about his wife nagging him to do chores after coming home from his job because, he argues, housework should be the wife's job, and a man who complains about his wife working only part-time to stay at home longer and not making as much money as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 05:23 AM
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edit: a single fucking misplaced quotation mark, goddammit I just found it strange that you singled out cishet men there I felt you were suggesting it's mainly cishet men who uphold the feminist dogma in menslib, which I would disagree with. I was talking about an old thread on menslib where the entire purpose of the post was addressing a (mostly het by default) cis male menslib-following audience. Hence, some of the comments didn't kiss up to anyone while some of them kissed up to the relevant …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/21 04:15 AM
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edit: typo their need to not be with a partner that doesn't fulfill traditional gender roles Sorry, but the double negative is confusing me, could you clarify? an individual can do little to change [the system as a whole] You don't have to change the system to fix your marriage. In fact, the more you try to fix your own marriage by making general arguments about what all marriages are like vs how they should be, the more you're just reinforcing the system itself. This is what I'm trying to point…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 11:22 PM
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Unfortunately, transphobia exists, so not everyone fully agrees with that. I explained the issue in this thread.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 10:32 PM
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IDK, when I was old enough to understand words maybe? But given the context of being raised as "a girl with a deformity" or something like that, maybe I should only count when I learned about trans rights and came out at 14?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 10:19 PM
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Ah yep, that's a really common grievance. "Men Lite", some call it. You can often tell when the people who write that shit have never known a trans man better than a loose acquaintance. They get it into their heads that the first trans man they meet is going to act like a super-feminist Peter Pan actor at Disney World or something, and then their ensuing disillusionment turns into resentment. Who would've guessed that men don't like to be complimented on how un-manly they are, how toxic and ungr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 02:32 AM
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Yeah, I saw that post right after making my comment, haha.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 02:01 AM
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cishet: Short for cisgender heterosexual, meaning not-trans and straight. AFAB: Assigned Female At Birth (sometimes DFAB with "designated" or CAFAB with "coercively"), basically an F was stamped on your birth certificate and you were raised as a girl at least at first. Pretty much all dyadic (i.e. not-intersex) cis women are AFAB, but so are pretty much all trans men and a lot enbies (from "NBs", short for "nonbinaries"), some of whom are also separately intersex, and there are many AFAB interse…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 01:37 AM
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Questioning a woman's right to be anywhere or do anything is misogyny. "Wha- who are you and what are you doing in my linen closet?!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 12:53 AM
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A significant fraction (still a minority, just bigger than in the general pop) of those types of women are bisexual, and they'll eagerly use that as their excuse at every opportunity, even covering for the straight women. There's also a higher-than-average number of nonbinary people, especially in a closely related phenomenon of trans fetishization, and they likewise make excuses for both themselves and the cis people. Many trans and/or gay men get sucked into toxic cliques of these types who fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/21 12:05 AM
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Are you straight? Because TBH, a lot of the time when straight men complain about gay "shipping", it is kind of homophobic. Like, when a woman's going around promoting harmful stereotypes/tropes and potentially bothering actual gay men, if the main thing that you're bothered by is the thought of the fictional characters that you like to think of as friends being together romantically, then that's "sus", as they say. Even if your actual motivations are less homophobic than hers, taking that angle…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 11:38 PM
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I think a major factor is that a lot of society still doesn't really take lesbianism seriously. Women aren't seen as having much sexual agency, so a lot of people don't even think that lesbian sex is "real sex" because it doesn't involve a man. When straight women see gay relationships, they easily get obsessed by how "exotic" they think it must be, but when straight men see lesbian relationships, it seems like they tend to only think "nice, 2 hot chicks". The kind of man who aggressively fetish…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 11:19 PM
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Honestly, somehow, it's like transitioning to male only makes everyone objectify us as walking vaginas even more than if we were living as women. So far I've only talked about the general fetishization of MLM, but there are subcultures within that whole mess that specifically get into trans men, or more accurately, a gross facsimile of them. For example, last time I searched a certain fanfiction website for trans-related stuff, I tried the keywords "surgery" and "post-op" and found that trans ch…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 10:44 PM
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You cant create matter, weight gain is directly tied to intake, you don't magically get fat. Definitely true. If someone eats more food than they need to then they will gain weight Not always true. It's possible to have all sorts of health issues that prevent you from absorbing or using nutrients. Unintentional weight loss or difficulty gaining weight are things to see a doc about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 09:16 PM
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It literally is difficult to buy fruit and vegetables in a lot of places though. It's a serious problem in isolated small towns in northern Canada. In the long winters nothing grows to take from the wild, which wouldn't be a problem if people could be seasonally nomadic but they were forced into crappy little shanty towns by colonialism and poverty, and proper grocery stores are too expensive to build and keep stocked that far out. (Edit: Obviously they aren't having McDonalds, but rather ration…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 09:00 PM
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I feel like it's a bit unfair to blame cishet men for what's going on in menslib I don't blame them? If you mean where I wrote "the upvoted comments were the ones that basically just flattered cishet men's egos" in my first comment, that was referring to just one particular issue that crops up pretty much anywhere a bunch of cishet people ask trans people to pitch in what "both sides" or whatever are like. They've already got a set of preconceived beliefs that they want to have reinforced so the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 07:32 PM
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Many people online have said that my feelings of not liking my body, being jealous of women's curves, fantasizing about having intercourse as a woman, indulging in "girly" hobbies, women's fashion, etc. are all sure signs that I am 100% bona fide transgender. TBH that does sound very trans, taken at face value. Maybe they're trans and have just constructed this elaborate scheme of excuses to avoid dealing with it, or maybe they've got some serious insecurities and think they'd be more desirable …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 02:40 PM
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Hmm, some off the top of my head: A lot of people say something like "crossdressing is more accepted in women than men", specifically in the context of how gender role nonconformity is viewed, and it's always said with the implication that GNC AFAB people are more respected or something like that. This is way too simplistic. Transphobia is more complicated than just "wrong clothes bad", it's an inevitable consequence of the way that gender has traditionally worked in society and as such is prese…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 01:28 PM
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To expand on your last sentence: A man's innocent attraction to someone and someone's innocent attraction to a woman each separately have the potential to be seen as predatory even when non-het, while a woman's predatory attraction to someone and someone's predatory attraction to a man are both more likely to go unchallenged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 12:11 PM
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Women are allowed to be tomboys This "grass is greener" kind of oversimplification is one of the ways that people dismiss trans men's perspectives as unnecessary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 11:54 AM
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For reference: am trans man I've been thinking about making a post about this sort of topic myself, but I'm not even sure exactly what I'd say, since I haven't been that into high-effort redditing recently, and I haven't really gotten a feel for the general attitudes in this sub. So this might be sort of rambly, but maybe there'll be some useful discussion on this post, IDK. One thing that I'm not sure how to approach is this: I've seen a lot of people (feminists, MRAs, and others, and just regu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/21 11:34 AM
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In juvenile corrections facilities, female staff are also a much more significant threat than male staff; more than nine in ten juveniles who reported staff sexual victimization were abused by a woman. [...] These patterns of gender-based violence must be understood in order to reach the troubled women who harm others. That's the feminist perspective in a nutshell for ya, fellas.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/21 06:09 AM
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Hope you don't mind me necroposting, but totally agree and feel like I should add something. I sometimes have to make this stupid argument to defend myself and I hate it. All the current discourse around feminism, social justice, or anything else forces trans men to constantly emasculate ourselves just for a chance to maybe be listened to for once. No one will give even the tiniest fraction of a shit if I explain how something misandrist affects me simply as a man, so my only way to get any reco…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/21 08:10 PM
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