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Chillax. If there is only 4 guys there, women will be contacting you in not long. Just make yourself available. Smile and make eye contact briefly etx
/r/seduction29/05/19 03:27 PM
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Cool! Good sign that outcome independence is growing in you. Good luck!
/r/seduction29/05/19 02:49 PM
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But if your point was to stop texting stuff to escalate, I agree with you. It's a million times more effective to escalate in person. Texts should be used to get dates.
/r/seduction29/05/19 11:23 AM
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You are getting old dude. People see calling as mostly rude interruptions of their day. Most people text for most things. Just observe girls from teen years up to even mid 20's...how often are they on their phone? How often are they talking on it? I would say 80/20. Mostly texting/snaps.
/r/seduction29/05/19 07:20 AM
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You are in "the friendzone" ...dududu ... Scary music. YEh. She sees you as a friend, or at least, exploiting you as a friend because most likely she knows you are interested. Girls sometimes dont give a fuck about this ofc, and will use you for emotional support on shit which her girlfriends would tell her to stfu, like being in love with 5 different guys. Start talking about what girls, specific ones, you like and see how she reacts. If she starts critizising them for everything and nothing, d…
/r/seduction29/05/19 06:35 AM
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You ask for directions, and when that conversation has ended and you go on you way to your destination, you give her a compliment before you say goodbye. Easier to compliment dress, shoes, hairstyle than her appearance - less personal. As far as I understood you, you thought you'd just go over and say a girl is cute? That's a much harder thing to do, and also less successful usually.
/r/seduction28/05/19 05:34 PM
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Because it doesnt add any value to her life. Or yours. You are expecting her to carry the conversation. You dont show any side of you which is remotely interesting. Should I continue? If you ever contact about something else than meeting up you should come with something that someone would find funny or interesting. Keep it short.
/r/seduction27/05/19 06:14 PM
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Stop writing shit like that. If you want to see her, tell her of an great place to hang out on a saturday, say you will be there, and that she should come.
/r/seduction27/05/19 03:50 PM
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If you get a date somewhere, a good tip is to go somewhere else before getting more numbers.
/r/seduction27/05/19 03:47 PM
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Yep. This is the best advice. IF you really want to contact her, it should be spontaneous and with something of value to her. Like if you are out yourself and you see something interesting or funny you want to share with her. Stuff like that. ​ DONT write shit like :"hey! How are you? Just sitting home and started thinking of you." ... You do that when you have been dating for 3 years.
/r/seduction27/05/19 12:34 PM
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Most likely she will come to your house to fuck when she realizes you stopped chasing it.
/r/seduction27/05/19 12:21 PM
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I bet you a hundred million that she will bang some other dude soon. Just find someone else that has the same intereste as you. She is a complete waste of time
/r/seduction27/05/19 10:32 AM
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Well you dont show them that ofc
/r/seduction27/05/19 09:34 AM
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Therapeutic effect for ket is not very strong tbh. Weight loss and sleeping masks can help against apnea. Also sleeping on an incline can help. Explore the options.figure it out. I can gurantee you that is one of the major factors for your issues. Sleep is really important for mental health.
/r/seduction26/05/19 08:28 PM
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Coffee is not good for anxiety. You should find a solution for your apnea then. Thats your biggest problem, imho. Sleep is maybe the most important thing we do that we seldom care much about. Focus on this Cbd oil worked ok for me too. But ket (ketamine spray) has reports to work specifically for depression. Not sure how to help you get hold of shrooms unless you are connected.
/r/seduction26/05/19 08:04 PM
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Answer the questions then
/r/seduction26/05/19 07:27 PM
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Needs more info. How old are you? How far have you gotten with her? How often? How often do you hang out with her?
/r/seduction26/05/19 06:58 PM
1

Ok. I wish you well anyway
/r/seduction26/05/19 06:18 PM
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I've had my bouts with anxiety. Stay away from booze and stimulants then. Dont know much about Kratom tbh. I had great success in microdosing shrooms. Went from basically not functioning to full control in a few weeks/months when I started doing that. I also read a lot about ket nose spray can help against depression. It's really expensive though, and the treatments are done at clinics. Ive seen people make those sprays themselves also, but the risk of addiction is pretty high there, so would pr…
/r/seduction26/05/19 02:09 PM
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go out to have *fun* dude. It will be a 100% then. If you go out to get pussy, and fail, the entire night will look like failure, and your motivation to go out and do it again will dwindle. Just go out and have some fucking fun. Approach girls, dance, escalate kiss etc, but dont get upset if the pussy doesnt come. It will come, and when it does it will be too much of it anyway and youll get bored of pussy in the end. At least then you can go out and have fun still, and not sit home and hate life…
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:54 PM
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Wow! Makes me rethink Tinder sucks attitude Ive been having.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:47 PM
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Like the other 2 said; keep it short, refer to something that happened when you met (best with something funny), and loosely invite out: "Hey! Great meeting you on x. What was it with the dude in the hat anyway? :D Im going out on sat night at X. Was there last weekend and it was...a-mazing! You should come! Im there from 22!" The better you know the girl the more direct and personal you can go. If you f.ex already made out, you could invite yourself to her place for a movie (or your place...I l…
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:33 PM
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best strategy. No joke.
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:15 PM
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One of those nights. Important to reframe when shit like that happens. Helps to change venue, get a snack or something, reset, and then go at it again in a new place. good luck =)
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:12 PM
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well he couldve taken it in stride by joking back something: "yeh! I got a skirt made from her drapes at home, you should see!" But yeh you fucked up. When you wing, there is a lead and a wing. You decide who is what for each set, or night, depending on preference. The lead picks the target, the wing does everything in his power to facilitate. Logistics, keeping moods up, entertaining friends, making it possible to isolate (taking friends to dance f.ex), if your lead is away you talk him UP... C…
/r/seduction26/05/19 01:06 PM
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That's a lot of info. You did the right thing! Well done approaching the girl. You shouldve followed your plan and told her what your plans were for the weekend. It was a good plan. Another thing that you could do instead, would to ask if/when she can take 5 minutes to talk. If its not a busy day they can usually do that. There you could talk to her in peace and get your groove going. I wouldnt think she is not into you if she doesnt call. She might be super nervous and not sure what to say or d…
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:47 PM
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Most likely it was him if he was acting like a douche. Sucks when wings are doing the opposite of what they should. I usually leave the asshole in those cases. Talk to him the next day instead. No point trying to make him behave during, and Im not going to babysit a fucking adult when you want to be out and meet people.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:38 PM
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She wants you to want to be her bf. She probably shames herself for having sex with you, outside of a relationship. MAybe she hoped it would turn into something more. Women do that alot. ALWAYS make sure that the sex is that, and only that, BEFORE doing it. Dont pretend it can turn into something more.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:28 PM
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Start approaching and get some more potential fwbs. She ejected from the fwb because she got attached. You cant do or say anything to change that.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:25 PM
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nice play! Try not to go for kisses on dance floors. Escalate by touching. You isolate and then kiss. Most girls dont like to kiss guys they just met in front of their friends. Its instant slut stamp for them.
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:14 PM
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Yeh. Like other said: Shit test / plausible deniability She probably has some moral issues over sex, and has to tell herself that she didnt come over to yours to fuck. I mean she even SAID that wasnt giong to happen. But if it happens, it just sort of happened, you know? She has to have a story to tell her friends and herself which is almost true. ​ I would do hot/cold if she rejects you a lot. Teasing also should work. Also...just make absolutely sure she understand that you will NEVER tell any…
/r/seduction26/05/19 12:03 PM
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Sex drive for guys is very much different than for girls. We can't choose to want to have sex or not. We just want it. And this want builds up the longer we are away from it. There are techniques to control this, but it takes a very dedicated person to get to that level. But good sex is for me incredibly exciting. To be able to make another person feel so good that she can't control her voice and/or body, and is grateful for me doing this to her for that amount of time, and at the same time I fe…
/r/seduction26/05/19 11:43 AM
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if I wanted to fuck it was drinks at a bar from 19 on a weekday. 2 hours of chitchat and a couple of drinks was enough for all the girls I did that with. A bar, drinks and escalating kino is a nice combo to get them hot. If she an extra challenge we went to 2 bars to solidify the connection first. Back home ofc my apt was clean, new bed sheets, new towels in bathroom. Wine in the fridge. Usually never opened the wine at home. Didnt need to. GF potential dates I usually go hiking in the mountains…
/r/seduction26/05/19 11:34 AM
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Well...first off. Dont do like 90% of the guys that walk up to the hot girl and stand staring at her dancing the entire night, blocking other guys they think is trying to get their "target". Fuuuck...so annoying. Fucking dance ok? Move with the music. ENJOY it. Make it a point to be on the dancefloor and enjoy dancing first and foremost. Why? Because THAT is incredibly sexy to girls, and they will walk right past the "sentinel guys" and start dancing around you. Try to dress up a bit. Black shir…
/r/seduction26/05/19 11:27 AM
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In a group setting you address the group. You seduce the group. It can often be more effective than being alone with a girl, especially as a first impression. If you manage to elicit value by entertaining the group, showing her you are a leader and of high status, you can isolate her later. Try to not to address her directly too much. Better to address her friends and such instead. Dont reveal your intentions too soon. A 9 that knows she's "got you" might ignore you if you show too much interest…
/r/seduction26/05/19 11:18 AM
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hello Alan Roger Currie.
/r/seduction26/05/19 03:13 AM
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pfff... I spent 2 years repeating the same stories about my ex to the same people...over and over and over... If you have good friends they will let you vent. And then one day...its over. And you dont talk about her ever again. It may seem hopeless now, but just take 1 day at a time. And like I said: go to the gym every time you get the feeling... fucking trust me on this. Do it. It will clear your mind out like nothing else. This advice was given to me by a russian that had been dating a psycho…
/r/seduction26/05/19 02:16 AM
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ok... she didn't break your heart, she just fucked it up real good, like the mob would... You can get back on your feet. DONT! Think about other women just now. You need to go back to a state where you dont "need" any woman, but are happy with whatever is right now.And to do that, you need to stop grinding around in the past with "Why didn't it work?!" and "If I only...!" One trick is whenever you start thinking about your ex and these thoughts, you go straight to the gym and work out as hard as…
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:53 PM
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well...its hard to get up from that. But just stay cool and try to arrange a second meetup later. If she doesn't reply just move on.
/r/seduction24/05/19 06:51 AM
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top answer was good enough for me. Also my comment was more a joke on the attitude rather than an opinion. If you have 1 match per month, you invest a bit more into it than just unmatch to a reply which might have been a joke. Maybe you dont see that, but you should try to. Edit: Its impossible to get abundance mentality as you are suggesting when you get 1 match a month. yeh? The real suggestion to guys is: Get off fucking Tinder. It sucks. You can get that abundance mentality by approaching
/r/seduction24/05/19 06:48 AM
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Just unmatch? Probably the only match he had for a month. He is not a girl you know. Tinder is a crap platform for most guys
/r/seduction23/05/19 10:01 PM
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wow...that's pretty close office relatioship! :D Yeh you fcuked up there...I mean seriousy... who cares about the spunk on the hands? you wipe it off on something. Some dirty t-shirt or towel or whatever is near (not her face). or just leave it there I dont know. Maybe a cultural thing, but I shoot the load on them usually... lol. Or if Im unsure I ask, and I get a t -shirt or something...my hand? What if we aren't done yet?
/r/seduction23/05/19 09:33 PM
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talk to her about if you can. Not when smoking ofc. Sober. Show her you want it to be good for her too, but not because you feel like less of a man to not make her cum. But because you genuinely want her to feel good.
/r/seduction23/05/19 08:31 PM
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Meh... she was high herself and got self-conscious.I dont know, but jerking off and practicing being "on the edge" can be good for you. To train yourself to know when you are about to come and not. Dont watch porn for this, though, it defeats the point. You can practice focusing your mind on stuff that moves you away from the edge and towards the edge etc. You should also check out techniques with hands, and if you want to, tongue. Some girls LOVE tongue, some dont. But ok to know some tricks. A…
/r/seduction23/05/19 01:11 PM
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buy a used TV for your brothers birthday or whatever. Problem solved.
/r/seduction23/05/19 10:39 AM
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its a joke...op and this comment. Unintentional or not
/r/seduction23/05/19 10:33 AM
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Dont get them when they are walking. Most likely they are on their way somewhere and dont want to be distracted...its an airport. People needs to be places. But, get them when they are sitting. Tons of girls just hanging around by themselves in airports. Ive done it myself several times, and it can be good fun to kill the time. Ofc, chances of being able to escalate is minor, so think of it as training more than anything. Or maybe a game: How far can I take this?
/r/seduction23/05/19 10:31 AM
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Attack her back aggressively - might be strong, but ultimately bad, since why would you. Refuse to take the shit, walk out if it breaks some of the rules. Take the shit defensively, make excuses, pleasing strategy. ​ This is your advice, or what not to do? Because it is very much the latter.
/r/seduction23/05/19 10:28 AM
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You dont acknowledge the question, and you don't apologize for your behaviour. You chose to wear a fucking awesome Aliens vs Predator shirt to the wedding. Who the fuck doesnt like Aliens vs Predator? Seriously though. Its your task to tell her to shut up about shit that is yours to deal with. Also what she *thinks* about something isn't your problem. Dressing yourself is yours to deal with. Hanging with your friends is fucking your business. What she thinks of your height, well... that's her pr…
/r/seduction23/05/19 09:05 AM
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That is great! We should hang out. I can make their web pages XD
/r/seduction23/05/19 06:42 AM
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Not the first time I heard photographers get 10s. It's a nice tradeoff for a model. Free pics for portfolio. Nice if you can convert that into fwb or even gf!
/r/seduction22/05/19 09:12 PM
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Never had a platonic relationship with a girl either. Never sought it ... If they are hot, Im going to go for that ass every time. If not, I honestly don't see the point. They rarely have the same interests as me, and also, I just get fed up with the constant need to correlate their opinions with other peoples... I think I come off as pretty harsh, as I usually just say whatever the fuck I mean...which ifc doesnt go well with most people. Especially girls. My current gf is a girl I could hang ou…
/r/seduction22/05/19 07:48 PM
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I gotta fucking laugh out loud at this. My mom didn't bail on me or anything, so Im sure you have had it much worse than me. But mine was emotionally detached so much that I can't remember a single good moment my mom and me shared alone since I was a kid. Or...that is, the first good moment I remember is when after I broke up with my abusive ex girlfriend, and I sat talking to my mom a weekend about ...well anything. I was 32. Fuck if I know what I can tell you to do...Therapy might work. Ive ha…
/r/seduction22/05/19 07:11 PM
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Why you want toxic women... hm. Do you think or fantasize about saving her, or helping her through her shit and when she comes out at the other she will be forever grateful you were the one that did it? Another theory can be that you don't value yourself enough to think you deserve a better person in your life. How is the relationship with your mother? Close or distant? Im genuinly curious because I have a similar trait. It's almost like it's not interesting unless they are damaged somehow, or t…
/r/seduction22/05/19 06:53 PM
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I was basically just curious about how a girl that is shy experiences a shy guy herself. I have no real issues connecting with shy girls myself, really. What often works is just to let them hang out around you, and dont make any "sudden moves", and she'll shadow you. Like a cat almost. One of them followed me home without me ever asking. I just went...Well! Im going home now, and she agreed... lol. Funny moment. I think its the first time Ive gotten someone into my bed without even trying.
/r/seduction22/05/19 06:17 PM
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Cool! Another Point with the time question being poor is that there is not much natural discussion flowing from it. Its not like she has an opinion about time, unless she is a quantum physicist... Ask for directions to the «best coffee place near here» to a group and chances are they will have different opinions and thus you are suddenly in a natural dialogue. You see? You want to ask something that does not necessarily have a direct answer to it, but isnt out of place to ask, so a natural dialo…
/r/seduction22/05/19 03:25 PM
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Curious: In general if you are nervous around this, does it make it worse or better that he is too? I've found that sometimes the nervous girls get even more nervous when I am not. They still want to talk, but it feels like they just get more embarrassed when Im not mirroring their feelings. And I'm not going to mirror that type of behavior, and pretend I am nervous... If you see what I mean.
/r/seduction22/05/19 12:17 PM
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Try to stay away from sarcasm and things that can easily be misunderstood in these cases. also. Nervous people are often too focused on details, and sarcasm requires a relaxed mind to get.
/r/seduction22/05/19 12:17 PM
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I think he got ignored because of the time thing. It's too generic, and too much used. It will seem off to most people. It's hard to get that working. So he should try to figure better openers. No? Good for him that he is trying though.
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:32 AM
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Ah right... I probably misread you a bit then. You have to be REAL careful not to approach too hard in day game. Dont get in their way. Try to face your body a bit away from her, whilst you are looking at her. Dont keep eye contact TOO long...it's very sensitive place to approach so you should act sensitive. Casual is the word. Well. I think I've given you what I feel I can give here without writing long essays, which I dont have time to anyway. Good luck!
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:30 AM
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Well. Don't chode around thinking she is the one. She has shown how much she respects you, none, so you should move on. Find someone else. Many else.
/r/seduction22/05/19 10:26 AM
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you are making out every day, but she is going on a date with another guy? How old are you?
/r/seduction21/05/19 09:29 PM
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Be assertive! Outcome independence (I dont care if I fuck)! Would love to hear back. Good luck!
/r/seduction21/05/19 09:26 PM
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or...you take your hand on her lower back, pull her in and say..."come here..." Or...you do a million other things, *once* you have built attraction. Build attraction and the kiss comes naturally.
/r/seduction21/05/19 09:21 PM
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you dont. Find another.
/r/seduction21/05/19 09:11 PM
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It's real hard to give direct advice to a certain situation I was't in myself. This is why you need to do these things more often, to get a feel for them yourself. Ive been in that situation too many time to count, and the way I handled them were different for each girl. Sometimes I know it's teasing and I just power on, and they accept that advance, sometimes I back of a little and wait a few minutes, and then it works the next time, but sometimes and this sounds like that ,I had to go complete…
/r/seduction21/05/19 09:08 PM
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If a girl plays around like that where she will cuddle, but deny advances, and do stuff like eject from the dates whenever it can get serious etc, but at the same time text with you as much as you want, meet up for dates etc... Well... It feels like she is feeling you out. How long can she continue this? How will you react? Will you be ignoring her, be upset, be more needy? Girls are biologically primed to manipulate. Look at girls in kindergarten .They are a million times worse then boys. And i…
/r/seduction21/05/19 08:49 PM
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She is in control, and you let her be in control. > ( i dont mean to be one of those dicks where i expect sex or anything ) Are you waiting for her to be the one that expects sex? wtf is this attitude with guys these days...? You want sex. No? That is the goal here, or do you want a friend? With a 9, she knows she can get it any time, and wants *more*. She wants to get horny and have a challenge. She wants to get teased and shut down etc. But you have played into her hands like a puppy dog since…
/r/seduction21/05/19 08:13 PM
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Dont ask what the time is. Everyone in the world has a phone these days. A person asking for the time, seems not honest in intentions. Figure out something smarter to ask about. Something which can lead to a little conversation :"The best coffee place around here?" "Or the best <anything>?" really... A group might even start discussing it in between each other which gives yo uthe chance to parttake.
/r/seduction21/05/19 05:33 PM
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maybe ask both of them out to something, and show him you treat his sister nice?
/r/seduction21/05/19 12:05 PM
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Don't listen to him. Do like ItsMEdamnSHOOT says: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/bqxqti/two_baristas_at_local_coffee_shop_seem_to_be_into/eo8nxp3/
/r/seduction21/05/19 12:01 PM
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There isnt a town you can realistically travel to? Morning train there, evening train back? Drive?
/r/seduction21/05/19 11:52 AM
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Well Manson isnt for everyone. And you sure as hell dont have to show vulnerability to get laid either. Was just a suggestion. You can go high energy instead if you like that better. Become the center of the party type approach. Harder to explain how to do that, but its mostly about approaching groups, addressing all of them in a confident tone, and initiatw group actions, teasing and joking aorund. Being very physical also. I find that takes a certain type of person, or just fuck ton of practic…
/r/seduction21/05/19 10:15 AM
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You are trying to figure out if she likes you by reading every little signal there is that she does. Your brain is on overload, because of this and you can't make sensible decisions at all. ​ You just basically have to ask her out. It's hard to give you any pointers on how to do this, because you haven't told us much about the circumstances other than you sharing a class. It's better you ask her out, and get shot down, rather than live in limbo like you do now, and wait for half a year, and then…
/r/seduction20/05/19 09:38 PM
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It's the greatest compliment a girl can get, especially these days with tinder being what everyone tries to use to find partner/hookup. Your social value is sky high when you try, and they will be incredibly much more forgiving if you are nervous etc, compared to in clubs and stuff. Remember to build some attraction before asking for the numbers, though. Chances of them blocking is very low, if you approach them during day time, act charming AND they feel a bit attraction to you. They'll be yell…
/r/seduction20/05/19 09:28 PM
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You want to achieve what they call outcome independence. When you are talking to the guys you are not expecting any results. Just hanging out and saying whatever comes to your mind. When you talk to a girl you like you want her to like you. You want to impress her and so on. So you start analyzing the situation, and what she says and what you say constantly. This stresses you and it hinders the creative side of the brain to work as it does when you are relaxed. It's sort of like job interviews i…
/r/seduction20/05/19 09:22 PM
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Could it be fear of rejection? It can hide around your personality in many ways. Rough relationships is also a reason, ofc. You say you have "an opportunity", but that doesn't tell us much. How does this show itself? A girl asking for sex, or her just giving you some eye at a club? How far away from it have you said no? Haven't got much to go on here. But, it's also very common that your libido swings. Especially if you are down, stressed, low energy in general etc. I find working out works wond…
/r/seduction20/05/19 08:14 AM
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Well. Being bored and telling her implies that she has some responsibility there if it is just said by itself imho. And that you cannot fix it yourself. Not the best start of a convo. But could ofc work in some cases. Maybe: Hi saw you from across the square, thought you look cool and wanted to say hi. How are you? <blah a couple of minutes blah>. Haven't been very social myself today. Want to go grab a coffee? It takes the responsibility from her, showing her that you are fixing it yourself by …
/r/seduction20/05/19 07:50 AM
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Try to do a lot of similar approaches and you will most likely get similar results. When you have found a base that works in a specific way to your liking improve on that in steps. If you do too many different types of approaches you dont know why something works and why something doesnt.
/r/seduction19/05/19 10:13 PM
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You ask to meet her in the same sentence as opening the set? That will never work. You have to build up attraction before asking for dates. You are going over to check if she is up to your standards. Not to hope she accepts you. You know you are good enough for her before you go over. Showing vulnerability is letting her know you are not afraid to tell her "the truth" whenever that is relevant. It builds trust between you two in an instant. It also opens up her to tell you her "secrets". The tri…
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:50 PM
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Doesnt matter. Do as NextSpinach says. Assume attraction. Go for it until proven otherwise.
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:40 PM
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> I need to learn to show my intentions faster with girls. Yeh just learn how to escalate with kino, and then isolate. Pick a target, make a goal for that target, and then quickly plan how to reach that goal. Example: the 4 girls. You approached the group, or were introduced. Good. You should have decided who you wanted there. They were waiting for it. Even nicely without competition. They are not going to choose for you. You are the man. Make the decision who you want and go for it. You should …
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:38 PM
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Yeh sounds like a real bad route to choose. Never tried VR porn myself. But now I fucking want to, lol.
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:27 PM
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Set goals for each approach. Be happy when you made it. Eject, move to next.
/r/seduction19/05/19 09:13 PM
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Ive had a co-worker deny she had a boyfriend at an office party. So I pursued the entire night. She gave me absolutely no clue as to being in a relationship. We even shared a drive home. She fucking RAN inside the house almost. I didnt know what the fuck happened, until I saw the MALE jogging shoes parked on the outside. She had 2 kids with the guy, living with him. 6 months later she was pregnant with a third. Sometimes women just want attention from guys they are attracted to. Sad part of the …
/r/seduction19/05/19 08:42 PM
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jesus christ.... Approaching is a kin to jumping out from behind a bush now? If he can't carry a conversation and keep it short and simple, and it being comfortable for both of them ,then he has no business doing it, but it's not like it's black and white this. Ive had girls working at shops and restaurants hit on me many times. Physically blokcing me from leaving the shop, clearly wanting me to ask for their number. Act like a gentleman and it will be completely fine.
/r/seduction19/05/19 08:38 PM
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This is what Im wondering too... What the hell? :D
/r/seduction19/05/19 08:26 PM
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But op asked the question. She wondered why they would ask... Am I missing something? Why does OP even ask this question?
/r/seduction19/05/19 08:26 PM
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Yeh direct approaches have a higher risk of getting shot down faster. Easy to come off as a "douche" in that way. But done right, they can work. IVe had more success with friendly but direct approaches. Showing a bit of vulnerability at the same time works wonders. Like going over to a couple of girls, introducing myself and asking if its ok I hang with them for awhile whilst Im waiting for my buddies or something like that. It shows them Im confident enough to open any girl there. Im not going …
/r/seduction19/05/19 08:13 PM
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Yeh that's the challenge, and is why you need to plan ahead and make the date so that it's possible. That also why I always say: Dinners and movies suck for people that haven't banged.
/r/seduction19/05/19 07:40 PM
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Prepare logistics beforehand. Make it realistic and possible for you two to go to a private place, and her to get home, without much hassle or her getting tons of social stigma (her friends observing you going there etc).Then its often just to suggest it in a way that doesnt say :"LETS FUCK NOW!" ,but says more "we can go home and pretend we are not fucking, because we both know thats going to happen, but you need to have some form of explanation to yourself and your friends that it just sort of…
/r/seduction19/05/19 07:39 PM
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Anyone can learn to approach women. It's not an art or skill reserved for a small portion of the male population. The reason why you are not good at it, or not many are good at it, is simply because they have NOT practiced doing it. Yeh. It's that simple. Can you tell me what skills you have which you have never had to practice to get? Very few I bet, no? Why then do you think approaching strange girls is any different? You think the worlds best chefs just randomly checked out cooking, and bam, …
/r/seduction19/05/19 07:36 PM
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well... Then I suggest you continue doing what you are doing, if that makes you happy.
/r/seduction19/05/19 07:23 PM
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Are you a person that will wear one specific pairs of pants forever, even they dont look very good, and is uncomfortable to wear for the most part, or a person that will try different kinds until you find your favorite and then marry it? yeh...not the best analogy, but I hope you get my point anyway.
/r/seduction19/05/19 06:52 PM
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Very few, if any, experienced guy in this sub would recommend Tinder. For any reason. If you are a 7-8+ and can make a good profile, have at it if you want. You will still suck at approaching though, which is where the gold is at. For everyone else its a complete confidence killer in most cases.
/r/seduction19/05/19 10:25 AM
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Try to talk about something fresh and unsual. A simple trick is to start talking about people around you. Ask her if she could pick out who is the most likely to get the most drunk and get thrown out of the place and stuff like that. MAke up stories about people, and have her join in. You can play with this up and down the scale. Last time I was out, I was engaged in discussing picking up women for a threesome with a 22 year old bi. Asking for pointers on how she would proceed. Who there she wou…
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:52 PM
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No. you approach anyone and figure out if she is worth something AFTER you have talked to her...not before. Delete this list from your mind.
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:47 PM
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Find some other girls to snap to instead in addition to this one. Then you won't think about shit like this any more.
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:44 PM
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kino and escalation beats the shit out of that type of stuff any day. Are you afraid of getting physical? Sounds like a move you would do if you are worried about rejection more than anything.
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:43 PM
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Who knows? We dont know this girl and her insecurities. We dont know what youve been talking about or how she thinks or act around this. ONly she knows this, and if you want to figure it out you have to try something and see how she reacts. She has told you to leave it, quite strongly it seems, so that is a clue. At the same time, that might not mean what you think it means. Also. This sub is about teaching guys how to handle themselves around women to increase their chances on finding girls the…
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:35 PM
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Yes. Girls can, and do, pick up on your confidence level. And they also can give you slack if you are nervous, and dont act "the player". But you don't want to go back to where girls are giving you favors. You want to analyze why you encounters are not doing so well when you dont have anxiety anymore. Ive met tons of guys out I can immediately is a player myself. And it doesnt look good. Very gringy. Trick is to get past that point and still be without any anxiety but manage to talk to the girls…
/r/seduction18/05/19 11:17 PM
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Like the other guy said. ​ Enjoy dancing on the dance floor. Practice dancing a bit, and actually listen to the music. If you can follow the beat and do some moves with the arms without looking like your a drunk clown in strong wind, you are better than 99% of the people out there. Girls dig it and surround you after awhile. Ofc helps to look good and confident, but that goes without saying.
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:55 PM
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@bobyd: this guy knows what he is doing. Listen to him. ​ Understand that sex for women isnt something that can happen in an instant like with guys. Especially with strange guys. Bad sex happens a lot to women, and most often its because guys rush to the goal, and the girl lets them because they are afraid to reject them. So they are in a difficult position: do I let him go down my pants now, even though Im not ready, or do I stop him, and end up with nothing? fuuuuck.Learn how to read signals, …
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:43 PM
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Good! Just paying attention to clothes and style is eniugh to get decent at it. Doesnt take much effort really
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:49 PM
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Yeh its all theories here now. More details won't help much. Wait it out for at least 2 weeks, and shoot her message. Youll know from that.
/r/seduction18/05/19 07:34 PM
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just build up to the kiss with kino please. MAke it a natural and expectable event. Best in private too ofc.
/r/seduction18/05/19 07:27 PM
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yeh... sounds like she has feelings for you. Even when she was dating the other guy. But if you think she has, it would be good if you to talk to her about it. Say that you think this fwb wasnt a good idea, since you think she has feelings for you, given your history. And that you dont see her that way, so it would probably be a good idea to leave it. Before you smash :) It's always good to be upright and honest about these things. Leave them better as they say.
/r/seduction18/05/19 07:25 PM
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I like to ask the girls in the shops for advice. I give general directions and they run around. IT can be really good fun, and sometimes they find cool outfits. Bonus is that if the mood is right, you can ask them out after.Best do it on a quiet day, and she is aching for something to do. To know what looks good on you or not, try on tons of different stuff and look in the mirror. Discuss it with the person you are with. Ask her opinion. Why she thinks so etc. DOnt be afraid to be disagreeing wi…
/r/seduction18/05/19 07:16 PM
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That impossible to say. You might be the rebound guy. You might not be. She might want you for sex. Or more. Who knows? She might not know even. But, it's very common to go from one relationship to another for girls more so than guys. It's actually something you have to look out for if you find someone you want a relationship with. Best if they have been single for awhile and have no ex lurking in the shadows.
/r/seduction18/05/19 07:10 PM
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its really individual. If you are not experienced they can be hard to catch at times. And some girls hide their attraction really well. If she stares at you when she thinks you are not looking is a strong tell often. Telling stories about her life to validate herself to you is another. Talking about the future, or what she wants in the future is another huge tell. Talking about children positively is probably the biggest tell in the entire history of the universe. Laughing at everything you say.…
/r/seduction18/05/19 07:03 PM
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So many guys have issues with this. Kino. Physically intimacy requires a long build up. Start with touching elbows and work your way in. It needs to be natural, and fluid. Dont just grab a thigh and hope it works. Learn how to make women comfortable with your touch. Kino every girl you ever meet from now on. Learn what is socially ok, and what is not.
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:57 PM
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well fuck... Thing is you set the scene and asked for fwb status, she agreed. Now IF she likes you, she has a problem, she is afraid of getting hurt if you dont reciprocate her feelings. Typical girl reaction to this is to ignore the problem and try to forget it. Id still go with the plan. Invite her up. If she responds positively, basically just ask her if fwb is fine with her before any sex. Or after really. Just do it during the evening at some opportune time. You can be honest about not bein…
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:53 PM
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second thought...have you considered she is into you? she might have agreed to FWB just because she didn't want to deny you
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:44 PM
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maybe she doesn't either. Unless you have anything to loose, you can shoot for the invite up to you and see what happens. If she is unresponsive, just let her go.
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:42 PM
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yeh basically But others has pointed out I got my definitions mixed up. You asked for an FWB, I read it as fuck-buddy. Now the FWB thing is something that is built up over a long time usually, where you are friends and end up banging, but you know there won't be anything more because the love will never be there. A fuck buddy is a person you barely know, except her body. When you asked her for FWB status, Im not sure what you wanted now. FWB or fuck buddy? Others have pointed out that she might …
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:37 PM
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I only read that he should assume attraction. Didnt see how that helped him in this. But I get your point now. DOnt think you got mine, maybe he didnt either: I would mention something in the first texts so she remembers who the fuck he is. If you think he should add something about going out, meeting him again or whatever, no worries there. But without the hook to remember him , she might not , and assume its some stalker asking for a date
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:30 PM
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kino, kino, kino. Touch her at elbows and shoulders in the start, and move inwards towards back and lower back during the encounter. Hugs if possible naturally. Yes...without touching you are just friends. By definition almost.
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:24 PM
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It might be different for different FWBs, but the ones Ive had have been spontanoues requests. Always the same day, not days before or whatever. Its supposed to be non-commital. Not something to put in the calendar and wait for. you see? "Available today? Im home from 20." You are providing services for each other. Its not a relationship, per se.
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:20 PM
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Guys tend to judge put way too much weight on those types of encounters. 20 seconds chitchat is nothing. He should have put more effort into it. Guys ask for numbers from random girls after saying their names, getting gutted when girls dnot respond, or they have given fake numbers. Assume attraction is a misplaced advice in this scenario. He has no problems contacting her again. And if she doesn't respond, what does the assume attraction advice then tell him? To continue? Or ignore? Are you tryi…
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:17 PM
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listen to this guy.
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:13 PM
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Id wait for a awhile, 2 weeks at least, and invite over. If she doesn't respond, delete number and move on.
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:11 PM
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Most important: kino Secondary tips, dont drink so much that you become annoying.Try out at least 2 bars, and a walk either in between or after.Decide what you want out of the evening. She is working the next day, so if sex is on your mind secure logistics before meeting her. Know where you can take her if you sense it can be possible, and also how she is supposed to get home from there at a reasonable hour. If you only want to connect and leave sex for later, be entertaining and try to build en…
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:07 PM
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An FWB can't ghost you. That's the point. You only contact FWB for sex. That's it. No chit chat or talking about stuff outside meeting for sex. Any attempt at anything else can be seen as trying to build up to a relationship. Huge red flag for any FWB. edit: got my terms mixed up. Excuse me. English is not my mother tongue
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:04 PM
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You need to escalate. When you watch a movie, its a bit more difficult than when you are talking, so I would start before the movie starts by touching elbows and shoulders when talking. Make it "normal" for you to touch her. Most women will respond in return. When you are to sit down for the movie, it will be way more natural for her to "snuggle " into you during because you have already set the scene for that. GOing for the leg, before having touched anything else can be a bit awkward and unatu…
/r/seduction18/05/19 05:53 PM
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What ntipz011 said, but also: Well done. keep it up. Continue approaching, and gain that gdaf attitude. But, you have to build more attraction before trying to ask for dance or isolate/change scenes which you did. Try to eject before rejection a couple of times. Do it to a number of girls at the same place during the night. There is a high chance of one of them opening you again later. HUGE social value. Use that to open your prime target again later if you want. Basically: Spend more time build…
/r/seduction18/05/19 05:38 PM
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If she is 7-8+ she wont believe you, and probably think you stalked her on insta and made up a bad excuse for adding her. Just add her, preferably referring to the song or whateve ryou talked about: "Got any song suggestions btw?" Dont expect much though. Chances are high she'll ignore you.
/r/seduction18/05/19 05:27 PM
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Sit down not far from her in a place where you can have eye contact. See if you can get it, smile when you do. ​ 2 times eye contact with smile, is the cue to go over and say hi, can I disturb you for a moment? Hi, Im X, who are you? Noticed you across the room and wanted to come over... I have to study real bad to be honest, but my brain is stuffed and I need a break and if she wants to go get a cup of coffee or breath of fresh air
/r/seduction18/05/19 04:51 PM
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Just say you would love to, but you have plans for tonight. Im going to say dont try to reschedule with her now. youve done that 4 times before, and doing it again at first opportunity spells needy. let her be guessing for awhile.
/r/seduction18/05/19 04:43 PM
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Ok, ​ The touching is important to form a bond. If you don't it can be just two friends hanging out. Touching is a date between two potential partners. ​ Keep the touching to something you are comfortable with. Light touches to elbow to start, move to shoulder after awhile and in the end of the night lower back if she is receptive. Time the touches with a compliment or at the point of a joke or story. Or when she says something funny/interesting. You will find she will respond with touching you …
/r/seduction18/05/19 04:29 PM
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You need to practice each phase in a seduction to get good at it. If you have issues with approaching that is what you need to practice. Only that. For awhile. It's easier if you set a realistic goal here. Just set a goal that you are going over to ask for a good coffee shop nearby, or whatever suits the location you are at, and thank them for the help and eject. Do that enough times to be comfortable doing it. Second step is to do the same, but compliment them on their shoes or hair before ejec…
/r/seduction18/05/19 04:13 PM
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Dont do dinners before you have banged. Period. Success is determined by you only, so set a goal for the date: What do you want to happen? Anything goes. MY goal was sex every time, and 9/10 it happened. Then I wasnt after something serious at the time, so ... What do you want? From that make a plan. Let's say you want to get to know this girl. That means you have to make her interested. How do you do that? You go on a date and you have *fun* and create the start of a bond. My suggestion is alwa…
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:56 PM
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No its not a problem. If she just sends a meme, dont respond with questions and stuff. Just either comment or joke/meme back, non-committal. If you want to meet her in person, try to invite her, non-commital, to an event you are going to: "Hey! Im at this amazing club on saturday. Was there last week and it was fantastic. You shuold bring your girls! Gimme a notice if you do. Ill save you guys some seats".
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:43 PM
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Is the teacher's key some form of cheat? If yes. No. Dont do it. you won't get shit back for it, and potentially putting lives at risk. Focus on escalating and getting dates. You dont know her well enough to start fixing her shit for her.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:39 PM
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Do. Or do not. There is no try. ​ Seriously. Decide what you want, and then do it. Failure is a lesson, not a punishment. Now go get the god damn girl for gods sakes.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:35 PM
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Just delete it. You won't get any better at pickup through there, and the women you will meet will in most cases not be worth it for one reason or other. Unless you are an 8 or above, you will be her second or third choice there also, so you start off all dates being of low value to her. Practice approaching in person. Day or night. Once you manage that well, Tinder will suck in comparison. Approach without the intent to get numbers or anything first. Just go over and say hi and, and ask if she …
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:24 PM
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Not to be on tinder unless you adopt the same dgaf attittude as everyone else there.
/r/seduction18/05/19 03:12 PM
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Either you fucking decide to improve yourself and work on your sticking points, and post about them for help, or you shut up and go to a sub that cares about your self-pity. Delete all online accounts. Start doing social stuff around your own interests and talk to women. Stop drooling over women that arent like you. Wtf. Find a girl that IS like you. And talk to her
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:58 PM
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Yeh... this guy just gamed the entire female side of the sub
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:55 PM
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Best bot!
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:54 PM
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Non-commital casual approach. Approach her so she sees you coming, but stand with your body facing partly away from her. Leave her ample room to move away from you. Make it clear you want to talk to her, but its not the end of the world if she doesnt. Make it short, but end it with a number close or if you time have ask her to join you for coffee/tea right now. A day time phone number is a million times more worth than a night time clubbing number. She WILL remember you.
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:51 PM
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Leave it. She wont tell your gf unless she wants to either lose a friend and/or break you up. Its «ok» to look at someones butt dude. You are a guy that likes butts. What is the problem. You didnt do anything about it.
/r/seduction18/05/19 01:47 PM
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Whats wrong with dancing shit when its your first time? She knew you couldnt dance and agreed to try to teach you. Just have fun with it. Commend her on her patience. Compliment her. Make it comfortable to be i each others arms. You werent in a dance contest. You were on a date and had free kino all night. Great plan. Bad execution. Also: first date. If ok vibes. Kiss her before the end of it. Not always at the end. Too much expectations then. Many opportunities during a date
/r/seduction18/05/19 12:59 PM
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Its more difficult when they dont react to your touches. A girl wants to be touched by a guy she likes, so if she doesnt respnd to your touches in public, try to get her somewhere more private and see how she reacts then. If still non-responsive, it might she is just nervous or she has some body issues. Id continue escalating but muuuuuch slower than with a girl that was responsive in this case. But if she still wasnt rejecting advances Id still invite her home and continue there. If she still a…
/r/seduction18/05/19 12:40 PM
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Respond with: of course we are not. You have to work harder than that. Works really well most times. Turns the tables. She now suddenly has to grt you. Many girls like this challenge.
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:53 AM
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Decide what you want out of the date. Would you want to get a kiss? Maybe secure a second date? Make her really interested in you? I assume yes on all if you like the girl. This doesnt often come by itself. Yiu have to set the scene. You have to show her where you want this to go. You invited her. You decide what this is going to be. Dont be afraid to tell jokes and going that bit too far. Tease her a bit if you can. Touch her! Elbows, shoulder, lean into her if the situation allows it. See how …
/r/seduction18/05/19 10:50 AM
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She hasnt decided if she is interested and is weighing risk vs reward. She might also be chasing anothe guy she puts higher , but want you on her reserves bench. You could invite to a non-commital date. Say you will be at a place a specific day (this saturday), because it rocks there and she should come too. If she shows up you have a shot. If not, then just forget about her.
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:33 AM
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To me it seems like you werent able to push her buttons enough to make her want sex. She might have been in a state that would make it difficult for her, but trust me: she wanted to want it. Practice escalating towards sex. Make it your life mission to be sexual with women. Dont apologize for being sexual. Women want you to be. Want you to take control. After she realized you wont be able to make her want sex, she was looking for a «friend». Emotional support. She wants this because she knows yo…
/r/seduction18/05/19 09:16 AM
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Dont beat yourself up. Have done waaaaay worse things myself. Like ignoring a super cute waitress that was physically blocking me from leaving the restaurant. Just prepare yourself every time you go out and make a point of talking to at least one stranger. This will make you used to it, snd opening sets like that wont be so much of a challenge.
/r/seduction18/05/19 08:03 AM
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Interesting to see all the downvotes. Either just people accepting women to walk all over them, or not interested in the topic at all. There is a fine line between your actions and becoming a douche though. Only use in extreme cases such as yours. People should respect each other. I dont see how you did not in these cases
/r/seduction18/05/19 07:49 AM
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if the report doesnt contain description of the method used, why it was used, how it executed, possible outcomes, and any learning points, its worthless imho, except as entertainment. Motivate yourself rather by focusing on your own method and work on those skills. Analyze your efforts and find sticking points. Work on the sticking points by testing new strategies and checking results. Know that each time to try something you learnt something new, no matter the outcome.
/r/seduction17/05/19 11:33 PM
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Sounds like a scammer to me. Why the hell are you looking for dates with women in other countries..there's a fuckton of them everywhere around you.
/r/seduction17/05/19 11:22 PM
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This is only you can know the answer to. Is the dad of the type that would fire you if you date her? Or you date her and things goes to shit?Not all dads are the shotgun type. Most aren't to be honest. They accept their daughters sexuality and that she is free to choose who to sleep with herself.OBviously treat her with the utmost respect, and if you want to go for this, it might be a good idea to ask her brother if he thinks it would be ok. And if he says go, basically go to your boss, and tell…
/r/seduction17/05/19 11:18 PM
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Good. Practice makes perfect. Do it until talking to random people is effortless. Approaching women is a piece of cake then,.
/r/seduction17/05/19 11:09 PM
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Remember Im working on just your words, so I can't know for sure, but Im pretty sure you are not able to escalate kissing to something more here. And the women get bored of just making out, and nothing else. Are you leading it? Escalating and making it hot, or are you passive?I mean: If you are kissing, how long before you touch her lower back? IT should be in 1 second.How long before you got a handful of butt? IT should be in 10 seconds. How long before you have bit her earlobe or kissed her ne…
/r/seduction17/05/19 11:06 PM
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Alright! Well done! You went out and practiced your pickup. What did you learn? Nothing? I can not see any analysis here. I can't see description of any sticking points or questions on how to improve on a certain stage of a set. How do you expect to get better at this if you don't try to figure out *what* went wrong, only that it did? I cant comment on the 6 rejections, but the one giving you her number I can. You asked for her number way to early before even making a lasting impression on her. …
/r/seduction17/05/19 10:50 PM
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Its the best place to practice your skills. Remember: noone knows you. Even you completely burn and crash, it wont matter when you are back home. Ive used this mentality to approach model looking women at airports around the world. Youll be amazed how much they enjoy some attention when waiting for flights. Pretty sure I could bang them if we could find a room...
/r/seduction17/05/19 10:31 PM
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I dont know...Tinder sucks ass, and is usually just a place for girls to get their attention fix. Anyway, you could try to play on it, and do an even worse one. "What? Im giving you gold here! What about this one?" etc wont work for long Im sure, unless they are actually cringy funny.
/r/seduction17/05/19 10:28 PM
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If you want it to be a date, it's a date. Don't wait for her to show her intentions. Lead her towards where you want to go. Escalate through the entire date. Always. Ofc dont be too pushy, and cool off a bit if she shows discomfort. Its supposed to be fun and cool. Escalation is easier if you are able to touch her effortlessly through the night. Touching is key to making it a "date" and not just 2 people hanging out. Remember that when you choose location to where to go. DOnt sit with a table be…
/r/seduction17/05/19 10:20 PM
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IF you are spending a lot of time with women, but end up with nothing, and get the "great guy" talk, you are basically not escalating fast enough. ​ It should seriously not take more than 1 date to know if she wants it or not. 2 at the VERY most. Learn how to escalate an encounter from talking, touching, escalating and isolating (if necessary, scene change is also a nice trick), and closing. DONT wait for her to tell you what she wants. Show her what you want. Confidently and non-apologetic. Esc…
/r/seduction17/05/19 10:14 PM
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Good point. Absolutely a good reason why guys should not shy away from being vulnerable around women they want to get serious with.
/r/seduction17/05/19 10:04 PM
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Well that changes things obviously. A 7-8 has a similar life as a 10, but not nearly enough to make you have to wait and chill and tease out an advance from her. She will expect you to do that for sure. ​ If she is texting you constantly use it to joke around with her. Dont go into long texts about life or how you feel or whatever. Just random chit chat, maybe about stuff that has happened at school. Eject early on each round. Not more than a few 4-5 msgs a day in the start. Let her initiate if …
/r/seduction17/05/19 10:03 PM
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its going to be a real challenge to get a 10, if you are not very confident about this. Remember that. You should be effortlessly approaching 6s, 7s, 8s and even 9s before having a realistic chance of getting a 10s attention. Remember...she is *the* alpha female in the group. ALL guys will be gunning for her. She is used to attention. She is BORED from it. She probably wants to avoid it for the most part, as it's never a nice experience to turn guys down... And she turns them down instantly if s…
/r/seduction17/05/19 09:42 PM
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hehe....I get you. Can be frustrating as fuck at times. Good luck to you!
/r/seduction17/05/19 09:08 PM
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I didnt understand much about what you said about the pantry and staying back... but: The optimal would be ofc to get her alone, but its hard for me to give advice on how to do that, without knowing the space and daily routines there. ​ Is it possible to initiate a project meeting, or discuss some business in a meeting room with her? If not, just approach her in the office seemingly randomly. Coffee machine, water tank, printer room etc. Say hi, and introduce yourself a handshake here can work i…
/r/seduction17/05/19 08:39 PM
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Go back to basics. Practice what you know, and remember that each day you improve you are better than you were before, and closer to the goal of where you want to be. Find your sticking points, practice them over and over until you have control over them, and move further. Be patient. You will get there in the end. Just keep on learning and practicing your skills. And have some god damn fun at the same time!
/r/seduction17/05/19 08:27 PM
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No problem! Feel free to report back! Would love to hear of your progress!
/r/seduction17/05/19 08:24 PM
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I disagree with your uncle. Honesty goes a long way, and also showing vulnerability is a huge turn on for ladies, if you do it right. Dont be apologetic when you tell her. I would go to the dinner if I were you. But a good time before eating, after some wine perhaps,tell her you have something to tell her that might shock her a bit. She will say ok? What? Say you have a retainer, temporarily, you are getting implants soon, and you have to take it out before eating. Ask her if she wants to see it…
/r/seduction17/05/19 08:20 PM
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Im guessing sexual stigma. Possibly you come on too strong, or not at all? If you talk to her in a place she knows a ton of people she will be reluctant to show much interest, in fear of being labelled a whore. Try to act in a more friendly tone, and make it possible for her to meet you away from her social circle. There you can do as you do with strangers, but remember: always make a point of it being a secret thing. Otherwise a lot of friction will be there. Sounds counter-intuitive, but its e…
/r/seduction17/05/19 08:14 PM
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Is there a lunch area where you can sit together without it becoming awkward or too obvious? Other than that, its leaving at the same time as her...preferably before her and let her catch up to you. She will if she wants to. Office parties is a cliche, but ofc very obvious opportunities. Expect a fuck ton of friction there, though. Remember: Sexual stigma for girls is real. She doesnt want her co-workers to know she went and banged a dude in the office. She will be a social outcast, or at least …
/r/seduction17/05/19 08:10 PM
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Your 35 year old woman? wut? How old are you? With older women, just behave like you would in a dinner party. Be polite and attentive. A massive bonus with older women is that they dont care for playing games much. You can basically just tell them what you want, and they, if interested, will respond positively. Might even pull your pants of straight away (jokes, but true sometimes). Ask to hang out in her apt, bring wine. Talk, touch, tell her she is hot (older women fucking love that from young…
/r/seduction17/05/19 08:03 PM
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fuck yeh its a success! Well played, but you could've used that social value to open other sets. Those girls would probably wing you straight into any girls pants there.
/r/seduction17/05/19 07:58 PM
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Upper tier stuff.
/r/seduction17/05/19 07:53 PM
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Play it cool. Its a mistake to go for all the touching and kissing in front of her friends. It increases her risk of being viewed as "easy" etc. That is possibly why she wants you to cool down. She is not sure about you yet, why should she?, and seeing as you broke a ton of social norms with reckless disregard for the stigma she might get for it, she doesnt trust you enough to hang out around her friends again. Lesson learned: Isolate before escalating to kissing and putting hands on more intima…
/r/seduction17/05/19 07:37 PM
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Yeh... be slow to gather your stuff, pretend you are doing some texting, tell any friends or whatever that expects to leave with you to catch you later. When its empty approach and commend her on the workshop blahblah, and "Im going to X on saturday? Ever been? its super good. You should go. Bring a friend. Oh yeh. Have my number in case you do come, so I can save you a seat."
/r/seduction17/05/19 06:43 PM
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go out on those days, and meet people that have similar schedules? Build a network of these people and arrange parties, movie nights, game nights whatevs. If you are a good host, people wil want to bring friends - profit
/r/seduction17/05/19 06:39 PM
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What Aghayden said about moving on I agree with, but Id like to put in a few pointers to your story anyway, if I may?When she says she is not looking for a fuck only, is a clear signal that is exactly what she is after, but doesn't want the social stigma attached to that idea. Your response should be making it clear that you would never reveal ANY of your adventures to anyone. You could also joke about she would have to work harder to get that etc. She seems worried about how people see her in t…
/r/seduction17/05/19 06:19 PM
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well no. In my case I got introduced to it. But I have gone to events alone where I knew no one, already having some experience in the thing. Its a good exercise to do that regularly. Go out of your comfort zone and do stuff alone. Be honest about it when there, and youll be surprised that many people will take you in and take care of you. Depends on the place and the people obviously. There are toxic places around too.
/r/seduction17/05/19 05:35 PM
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Feel free to report back!
/r/seduction17/05/19 04:50 PM
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I suggest you decide where you want this to go. Sex or relationship? Ofc they often go hand in hand, but you have to be clear on what you want BEFORE the sex. make a plan and see how it plays out. Dont wait for her initiative. Good luuuck!
/r/seduction17/05/19 04:06 PM
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You dont have her number? If not, next time you see here there, mention that you are single now and its nice with single life these days and that you would want to stay single for awhile. Later ask for her number, and if mood is right if she wants to hang out. IF possible the same day at your place or hers. If yes, escalate and make it clear you are after sex. If she is on the same channel she will gladly help you with that. I mean, if she accepts to go home with you, you should know by now that…
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:32 PM
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baby steps. Set realistic goals for each event, and once achieved, be happy and set a new goal for the next. In a while you will be confident in all aspects of these events. ​ Good luck!
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:26 PM
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Yes makes no difference really.Figure out stuff to do without needing much money and there will be girls willing to do that. Ofc you cant get ALL girls, especially not those that want a guy with a car and lots of money obviously. But not all women are like that so. Tips: bring a group of friends and your target girl(s) to a camp site/beach/secluded area. If you can get a good sound system and light a fire you will have a fantastic time.
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:18 PM
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My pleasure. Good luck!
/r/seduction17/05/19 03:00 PM
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delete all online accounts.Try to find interests which you can go to events to meet people. Can be anything, but really depedent on where you live. Im into electronic music and can go to clubs with that type of music alone with no problems. Having been in the scene many years, and now I know many people there so...never really alone. ​ Girls will be there, and you get to talk to them naturally. Try to make friends, and suggest to go out in groups. Use the group as a base to meet women out, or if…
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:50 PM
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mhmmm.... I think she is afraid of being hurt. I think you played far too long and hard on showing her you can get pussy whenever you want basically. She is into you, but you making her jealous on *purpose* when she is already in to you is a huge no no. It breaks trust, and that is what you need to show her. You are saying she is not responding in clubs and stuff like others. Maybe you need to isolate her. Either go on a date together, or when out, ask her to go to another place alone, or just a…
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:44 PM
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if you think that is a realistic outcome, be my guest. Try it out and come back to me.
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:29 PM
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Sherman hides his true identity to approach women, because he didnt think girls would be interested in him if he was his true self. Once he stopped (in the later episodes) he was king. That is the message you have to learn: be yourself. Dont act like you are someone else.
/r/seduction17/05/19 02:21 PM
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You should maybe write a bit about what happened on the date, and where you want it to go on the next one? Have a plan. It works wonders. Doesnt have to be a super firm one, just know where you want things to end, so you dont end up in limbo waiting for her to make the move
/r/seduction17/05/19 01:33 PM
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That women dont want sex as much, or dont need it. They just have a different route to get there. A few more hurdles, that you need to handle for them. They expect you to lead. Me, 40, sat alone on a house club last night just enjoying the music. Girl, 22, sat down on table next to me, and after some minutes spills her drink on herself to get an excuse to talk to me. After 5 minutes of banter, she starts talking about sex and how she is single and looking for sex etc etc. Not the most common sit…
/r/seduction17/05/19 01:27 PM
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I feel "be yourself" is more meant to make you NOT act in a way that is not...you. I think a good example, albeit tongue in cheek, of this is "Sherminator" from American Pie movies. Acting like someone you think is cool, wont make you cool. It will make you look like an idiot.l Be yourself: Do what you like to do. Seek people that like same things as you. I agree self-improvement is always a required trait no matter who you are though.
/r/seduction17/05/19 01:15 PM
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dont make stupid excuses. Sit down and make list of where girls are. Hey. You just made a list of places you are going to visit in the near future.
/r/seduction17/05/19 01:10 PM
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All well played. She couldve answered the text simply because she doesnt want to be the one that doesnt and let you hang. A good girl. She is not interested, though. Proceed to next.
/r/seduction17/05/19 11:18 AM
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Well done! You should be proud of your self every day, for taking charge of your life again. ​ I think what you are doing is avoiding failure. That is, you don't try so you dont have to feel the pain of failing. ​ There are tricks to get around that. Ive used the "learning" mentality to great effect myself: Whenever you approach a girl, first set a goal (where do you wan this to go?) mentalize the stages you are going to go through to get to that point: approach, talk, escalate conversation, lig…
/r/seduction17/05/19 11:03 AM
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Jeez. Take a compliment when you get one. Make her your friend. Women makes the absolutely best wingmen. The hotter the better.
/r/seduction17/05/19 10:23 AM
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ouch... you have to be absolutely sure you are not reading into this too much. Is he *only* responding to your initiatives? He might just be "the nice guy" that plays along because he thinks that will make you feel good. If I were you, to know if he is interested or not, make yourself available. Just invite him out to an event like a club,bar or whatever you like to do where there is a crowd, and preferably some alcohol to lighten the mood. You can do it in a passive way if you prefer that by me…
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:08 PM
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PUA stuff works. Wont make you happy, so you have to add inner game to the mix. But its a tool, and it works.
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:01 PM
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> I am below the guy's average height in my country, but I try to believe that it is not the main cause of my lack of results. That's right. Its not. ​ > Do I act too passively with women? Do I act like that "dude friend"? ​ Not having been around you, but from your story it looks to me like a resounding *yes*. ​ Inner game is incredibly important to build up enough confidence to keep approaching and maintaining rapport and attention. But unless you have a plan, it wont get you much further than…
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:58 PM
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Ah ok. just find a way to be alone with her for a few minutes, and see how she reacts. If its on, tell her where you will be next saturday evening (club, bar etc),because last time you were there it was amazing (you shuold ofc have done that) . If she turns up, its game on.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:48 PM
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f-close is a PUA (pick-up artist) expression and it means to get laid. And yes its creepy and corny as fuck. :) Telling her you've been to jail was more a joke than anything. But being honest about your history is important. But its not relevant to your encounters in the clubs. If you feel a connection with a girl, f.ex after sex, and the opportunity arises, I would consider talking about it...IF you are capable of handling the possible rejection afterwards. Many dont understand mental issues an…
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:44 PM
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Ive had social anxiety my entire life. Topped itself when it spilled into my everyday life and I couldnt handle shit. Went to doctor about every fucking thing ,from imagined heart attacks to prostate cancer to whatever. Still able to pick up girls. Mental illness is truly difficult, but if you have the capability to moan about not getting laid, trust me: Your mental illness is not your problem in that regards.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:31 PM
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well.. You dont spend time on instagram. What's the big deal? Focus on having a good time with her and escalate your encounters. Always.
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:20 PM
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I would not initiate. Girls fantasize a LOT, and looking for attention all the time. She might have noticed you have looked at her and want confirmation. Your action towards her can spell disaster when she tells her friends. IF you want to find out, figure out a way to be alone with her for a few minutes. And see how she acts around you then. Also, depending on the rules where you are at, prepare to lose your job...is it really worth it?
/r/seduction16/05/19 08:10 PM
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You are *supposed* to break it. That shows you control the situation... BUT! Break it sideways, not down. It's really important. Down shows your are subversive. Sideways shows you are on equal ground. You can also play with breaking eye contacts upwards if you feel extra playful. But most important: Throw in a smile just before you break, just long enough for her to respond with a smile herself. If she did smile, feel free to engage her with another round of eye sex a few minutes later at the co…
/r/seduction16/05/19 07:48 PM
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Tell her youve been to prison and that's f-close 3 minutes later. jokes aside: Dont be fearful of failing. Failing is a tremendously important part of learning. Treat every approach as a learning opportunity, and use it to improve your game for the next set. Also, even after having done it a million times, approach that is, I *never' know if Im about to get laid or not. Never. You dont know until you pull those panties of her. ​ edit: After checking out your picture. 6' and well built? AT LEAST …
/r/seduction16/05/19 07:37 PM
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