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NYE Purge Post!PennnyLame/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:35 AM
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Question For MenPennnyLame/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 05:28 PM
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Question for WomenPennnyLame/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 05:50 PM
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I would wish ill on you but it seems like life beat me to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:55 AM
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More. Best part of quarantine tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 04:19 AM
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I hope you feel better soon! That sucks!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 04:17 AM
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I seriously think you should realize that it makes sense that older women will be more interested in a man who looks like their age mate. Balding men look older. Of course then older women would be more likely to not mind balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:31 PM
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But baldness is a sign of aging. It’s more common in older men. It makes sense that women attracted to their age mates wouldn’t be as bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 03:43 PM
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... if someone doesn’t meet you until they’re 30, that’s not a slight on you. Now I think you don’t understand time OR space.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 03:19 PM
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That “younger prime aged woman” would still watch you age. She was okay with grey hair and crows feet at 21 and now she’ll have to be okay with your age spots (or whatever) in 15 years. You truly seem to not understand time. Avoiding women altogether sounds like a great idea for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 03:03 PM
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Do you understand how that is unavoidable and actually a good thing because time exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:47 PM
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He has crowsfeet and grey in his beard now which I never would have accepted at 21 so I guess tastes do change... At 18 I don't find grey hair and crowsfeet acceptable. At 30+ I find grey hair and crowsfeet acceptable. So yes, we exhibit these behaviors even when the man in question doesn’t change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:34 PM
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Then your reply to my answer indicates you don’t understand the premise of your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:18 PM
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It’s being attracted to your age mates. Is your stance now that we must turn in our 30 year old spouses for younger men or our standards are lowering because that’s just crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 01:43 PM
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At 21, I was dating a 6’4” dude who had been shaving his head since Junior year of HS. I am married to him 14 years later. He has crowsfeet and grey in his beard now which I never would have accepted at 21 so I guess tastes do change...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 04:44 AM
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You’re projecting on all the women who married their college bf’s, first of all...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:14 PM
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Ah yes, a lecture on women’s attraction triggers. Of course this is where we land. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:59 AM
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Women “attracted“ to money... sure. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:50 AM
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Why are you making this about you specially? I don’t workout 5 times a week and eat clean to date someone with no discipline. Sounds fun. The market decides your value. Your value has been decided. You can keep doing the same thing and whining about fairness to strangers online who want to debate gender issues and not your specific gripes or change your tactics. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:43 AM
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Yes, only women should be flexible on dating men outside conventional attractiveness. All men, even the conventionally unattractive, deserve Stacy 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:32 AM
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The world of sexually active short men kinda proves being short isn’t a romantic death sentence...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:28 AM
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No. There is probably not someone for everyone especially if the person looking is not conventionally attractive or engaging socially. There can be someone for everyone, IMO. There are traits that are more likely to be universally attractive. There are also traits that are going to be attractive to niche communities. If men can amplify their attractive universal and niche traits, they can attract women. This also requires those men be attracted to the women in those niches. One of my many object…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 07:11 PM
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I would be less attracted. I like the juxtaposition. Gently dominated just means that he’s dominant without being mean and nothing is painful. Best description I have heard is “I know how to get you off better than you do.” No slapping, no choking etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 04:49 PM
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I feel attracted to very masculine presenting men who exhibit beta traits. I like being (gently) physically dominated while being told I am beautiful etc. I don’t think I am in the minority in this but PPD always surprises me so 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 07:37 PM
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Pornsex isn’t necessarily about being male centered- it’s that it’s performative. The purpose of porn is to be visually stimulating. It’s not intended to be physically satisfying and it seems like this was common knowledge until 10 years ago. Antiporn sex would just be sex that focuses on the physical satisfaction of both parties rather than visual stimulation of a non-existent audience. Honestly, most porn is pretty vanilla it’s just the way things are done and a heavy focus on things that are …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:46 PM
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Depends on what you mean by “criminal”... Guy who drank underage, smoked weed or did party drugs and maybe got caught in college and had some sort of low level charge? Or held a bag for his best friend who was on probation and was put on probation as a result? Sure. That’s very common in young men IME. They’re not career criminals- they’re college boys having as much fun on dad’s dime as they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:05 PM
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If I were Julia, I would look at how I differ from Ana. Is Ana much better dressed than me? Is she more social? More put together? Does she have better connections? You’re presenting this as though women don’t experience hierarchies or girls who don’t want to be their friends. We do. You either figure out how to fit in with your aspirational group OR you find your own little clique.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 06:39 PM
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Aww thanks, goat!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 03:51 PM
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I agree with you but I also see Atlas’ point- both dynamics could manifest. I think the distinction is whether the woman feels agency and responsibility in her emotional state and the general state of her relationship. What you’re describing here: if it's all about feelz, and expressing love and connection, isn't it more crucial and needed than just 'fun thing, can create babies' This assumes she’s trying to be active in keeping love and connection going. I strive to do this myself and believe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/20 03:47 PM
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Point out her fat belly. DUH.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 01:26 AM
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Well I am giving her the benefit of the doubt which may be foolish...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 06:10 PM
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I am not disputing there are women who are more conventionally attractive than others. It seems your claim boils down to: women want to do as little as possible in bed men will allow “hot” women to do next to nothing I am disputing the first point that doing nothing is the female ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 06:09 PM
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I think it gets neglected on PPD- people here have very strange views on sex. Which, I think, can often be attributed to inexperience. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 05:32 PM
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Eh I can’t speak to slapping, choking or beating people up but being a pillow princess sounds boring as hell to me. I like being actively engaged in sex. It’s fun for me, fun for him. It’s just better. I think there’s a glorious middle ground being ignored here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 05:04 PM
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I’ll just say what I said again. This poster spent an hour repeatedly personally attacking another poster and their spouse. That you didn’t get here until he had done so 7 times is part of the issue. If I repeatedly attacked someone like he did, I would have deserved a ban but I am sure that wasn’t the case was it??? The way you “mod the site” is the direct cause of the fact that women and BPers are no longer here. Take some accountability for the echo chamber you are actively fostering. You’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:29 PM
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It mattered to me until I was with someone who made feel better than getting my girlfriends’ approval did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 03:00 AM
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PennnyLame 2020 🦅🇺🇸
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 12:50 AM
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Where the fuck are the mods????
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 07:03 PM
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BUT DO YOU HAVE THEIR “PERSONAL CONTACTS”??????
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:27 PM
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Yes. Everyone can tell you’re very amused and not compensating weirdly in this thread. My husband isn’t a musician. He makes okay money (especially in his field) but I make significantly more. It’s not really a big deal. He does say he hides things about our lifestyle from his colleagues because he doesn’t want to seem braggy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:26 PM
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I would much rather be married to a man with a cool job than a nurse’s aid. Good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:16 PM
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Why doesn’t this guy want to date artists?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:15 PM
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They will never admit it works for some of us. PPD men have been predicting my divorce “any day now” for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:27 PM
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It’s unsurprising to me. I have always made more money than my husband and in recent years, a lot more. He has a good job in a highly competitive field but he would need to get his masters and go into academia to really climb. He has zero interest in that and loves his job so this is the top for him. I am proud of his work and he pushes me to take time off, plans vacations, and is generally the best part of my life. It’s a nonissue for us. Maybe it would bother me if it bothered him but he’s tot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:21 PM
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And you’re forgettable 100% of the time. Keep downvoting- it’s a great indication of your debate skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 11:52 AM
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This is just false and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 04:58 AM
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I got married because I wanted to be family to my husband. We have argued about housework but got it sorted pretty well now. I just have to accept there are things he won’t do (he is more stubborn than me which is impressive tbh) so I allow him to take on the things he will do and sort from there. We have found a good balance. Also I hire a cleaner if I need to. Yes, I would marry him again in an instant. Most surprising thing is how much more I love him as time passes. I feel like he is part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:52 PM
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Poverty is not only expensive and stressful but it exacerbates and complicates issues like addiction, mental health problems, trying to meet gender roles, having and raising children, etc. So for many poor and low-income women (who have watched early marriages among or male AND female peers crumble for these very reasons) it's a better decision to have not married or "settled down" during 20s. This is a fantastic point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:43 PM
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Dude you are so far off the rails. My all caps was frustration at your inability to stay on the subject and having to redirect you 8 times. I am talking about this claim from the manosphere: Look at this screenshot. This woman says she wants a stable guy with a job. She had many opportunities to pair off with a nice guy (like me) when she was young now she wants it (and by “it” I mean “me”) when she’s old and unattractive. When the reality is This woman says she wants a stable guy with a job. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:37 PM
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I am not going to engage with you on two comment threads. I have already answered these points in my other comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:00 PM
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Yes. You are moving goalposts. You clearly want to talk about how women should be housewives. Not the subject at all. You also somehow think they should magically do this when their male counterparts are not pulling in enough to support a family with a single income. Which is just insane. Look at rates of drug and alcohol abuse in the lower classes. Look at rates of spousal abuse. No one is saying lower income people are bad but that lower income women have fewer men without these issues to pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:53 PM
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Where did I say “good men”??? I am specifically talking about lower income women posting on OLD.They say they are looking for someone stable who has a job. Then you have white collar manosphereans who take those posts and project their life experiences onto these women so that they can mock them and pretend this the end game for the kendras who rejected them in their youth. It’s cruel and stupid. You are overly emotional and keep strawmanning and it’s telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:48 PM
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Oh my god. NO ONE IS SAYING ALL LOWER CLASS WOMEN HAVE THESE ISSUES. I am saying there are fewer men who offer the traits necessary to be a good husband in the lower classes. I am saying women end up on shitty manosphere sites being mocked by men who have never met them let alone been rejected by them. Quit moving the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:41 PM
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I am not blind. I am pointing out the flaws in your stance. I won’t invalidate your claimed personal experience but I will say that when these women are posting their profiles it seems very apparent their previous dating experience. Also, looking at the statistics, upwardly mobile men are in the minority so the idea that women are just rejecting them in their youth. I think there are not many of these men in their social circles. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:38 PM
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No. This is an incoherent tangent. I am specifically talking about low income women looking for relationships and the manospherean myth that those women rejected men like them in their youth. If you want to talk about career women, do that with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:32 PM
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This is the strangest tangent. How is this related to low income women looking for relationships and white collar men mocking them for not dating men they have never met? If you want to talk about parents working, this isn’t the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:11 PM
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And you are perfectly proving my point. You can “find” these women, if you’re looking for them. But I seriously doubt CNA’s were getting flowers and nice date invites from men who would become white collar workers but rejecting him for Chad’s cousin Cleetus. Were you pursuing these women 5-10 years ago? Are you asking out their younger sisters?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:08 PM
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I notice a trend in very low income women. I do not believe men who claim to own their own homes and have been making 6 figures since their mid-20’s are being victimized by those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:00 PM
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I never said your circles didn’t have women in them. Not sure why you think that’s what I am saying. Both of our circles are reality. I am happy to actually discuss this but you seem incapable of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:51 PM
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I am repeating what I am seeing on a shitty, out of touch subreddit. Don’t shoot the messenger. Yeah this women with 4 kids by 23 totally went to college and rejected the nice boys in the STEM programs. And this women who had her first kid at 17 was totally just yucking it up in her sorority and being mean to the computer science guys. Or this woman who feels the need to specify that men on public assistance shouldn’t message her The idea that these women are in the same circles as the uptight m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:49 PM
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Neat- how are our circles different, do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:39 PM
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Haha- a fair stance. Also I loved Midsommar (assuming your flair is about the movie?)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:38 PM
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🤷🏼‍♀️ There’s a reason I am on PPD and not TBP and never posted on IncelTears...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:22 PM
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That’s an odd definition of in your circles. Despite my profile picture usually being of my husband and I, weird old/foreign dudes and supposedly successful men looking for a good time message me on social media all the time. Their interest doesn’t mean they are in my circles. Reciprocating interest and interacting would. I am trying to understand what the dynamic here is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:19 PM
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But what I am saying is that I am not making the Frankenstein monster. When men aggregate these tinder screen grabs they are pretending these lower class women had access to upwardly mobile men (usually the men posting the screenshots themselves) in their youth and wasted their opportunity. They believe these women want them now. Neither part of what is being claimed is true. The overlap isn’t there. I am not denying there is a middle but I don’t think the women being lambasted on Reddit are in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:13 PM
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It’s not a strawman- it’s literally the women that are posted on the revenge porn subreddit. If you can use your experiences as evidence, so can I and we can look at why those experiences are different. I am asking why what we’re seeing is different? What is the trend and how they differ? Frankly, I think a fair amount of this is luck. So often women on PPD note that they met their husbands young and that they grew together. Isn’t it possible that women are dating fun guys in their youth and som…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:46 PM
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I don’t personally see it in my circles. The women who end up single and trying to get married at 35 are far from the norm. None of them solely focused on men particularly different. I do notice that there is usually a reason people are single for any length of time in their 30’s. Both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:31 PM
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30 something single moms who have children from bikers are in your dating circles?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:26 PM
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But how much harm does this complaining cause and how often is it actually happening? And why are people aggregating when it does happen to get all foamed up over? The issue I see is very low income women stating they want a man with a job who doesn’t do drugs and then white collar men mock her on their revenge porn subreddit. It’s punching down and pretty gross, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 07:04 PM
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Yup. “Women = bad” is their thesis and they’ll come up with all sorts of fun ways to say it!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 06:11 PM
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Nothing is perfect and even when it is close or perfect our stupid little human minds screw it up. Someone needs to watch The Good Place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:15 PM
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Banging this drum again??? Something terrible happened OP over valentine’s this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 01:57 PM
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Most people communicate their needs to their partners but don’t need to be a giant weirdo about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:49 AM
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Ah. That guy 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:38 AM
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Which one is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:28 AM
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Keep following me around. It’s not pathetic at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:14 AM
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No one ran from you. I turned off replies because you weren’t making any points. A barking chihuahua thinks they scared the mailman away because the chihuahua doesn’t realize the mailman has other shit to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 02:12 AM
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What else would asexual mean? He and I had a whole exchange. He thinks women cannot enjoy sex. Go ahead and stop. I would too if I embarrassed myself like you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 12:12 AM
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So you don’t know how analogies work. Karthus: Women don’t like sex Me: men who claim women don’t like sex are bad at sex You: women don’t even have sex with themselves Me: yes we do and we have enjoyable sex with men who don’t suck at it. Your inability to follow a train of conversation doesn’t make me a liar. Women eat and enjoy good cake. If you think all women hate cake, you’re a shit baker. If a woman tried to tell all men hate something that most men demonstrably enjoy, I would assume she …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 12:06 AM
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It’s fun that all the answers seem to be from neither women nor feminists. I am a feminist. I am married to a feminist and find him very attractive. His politics make him more attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:38 PM
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Yes. I did make a clown of you didn’t I? Hope you learn to mind your own business!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:36 PM
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You kids. Stand in his eye line, make eye contact and then break it, touch your hair and look back at him. If he’s not looking at you, he’s not into it. If he is- smile. Then at some point stand near enough he can choose to start a convo if he likes. If he doesn’t start a convo he’s not into you. Rinse and repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:29 PM
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According to who? Plenty of older people think that bj’s are degrading. In the 80’s blowjobs were considered atypical. It’s just that 8” dildos haven’t been normalized yet. Denying yourself pleasure because of homophobia is definitely neurotic. Tsk, tsk. It’s a good thing you convinced me that I get a say in your limits. Otherwise I would just mind my own business and not let you know the “facts” of your neuroticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:19 PM
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How are they not the same thing? Explain to me how they are different. Is it that 8” dildos in the ass actually stimulate men’s prostates in a pleasurable way? So it’s even more neurotic to refuse a pleasurable act than one that results in no physical pleasure like a bj?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:13 PM
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That definition is hardly objective. Men who don’t want to get their prostates massaged by 8” dildos could easily be classified as abnormally sensitive, obsessive or anxious. Is there a reason this line of thinking makes you so uncomfortable? Is that a sign of being abnormally sensitive, obsessive or anxious? Why are your boundaries more legitimate than other people’s? Why does this question result in you needing to personally attack anyone who questions those boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:10 PM
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You make a really good point. It could almost be argued that women like sex more than men if we risk murder and dismemberment to have sex that may not even result in orgasm. It doesn’t even have to be a stranger for this risk to be present- women are way more likely to be killed by their intimate partner. Men don’t risk any of these things for a nearly guaranteed orgasm. CMV: women like sex more than men because they risk far more to have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:04 PM
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Hey man- you’re the one who wants to make the rules about other people’s limits. Suddenly you don’t like it when it doesn’t align to your preferences? What does that tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:00 PM
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Men who don’t take 8” dildos are neurotic. Sorry. That’s just the way things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 10:52 PM
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I am married. Some women do have sex with random men they meet at bars however: ”Women enjoy sex” doesn’t mean “women will have sex with anyone, anytime for any reason.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:50 PM
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Your link proves that men have a higher sex drive than women. So? That doesn’t mean women have NO sex drive or that they don’t enjoy sex. Women are not broken men. Edit: it’s literally in the abstract: The gender difference in sex drive should not be generalized to other constructs such as sexual or orgasmic capacity, enjoyment of sex, or extrinsically motivated sex How did I lie? Do you know how analogies work? “Women hate cake” - bad bakers. “Women hate sex” - men who are bad at sex “Women lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 09:00 PM
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Gimpgirl would have taken him up on it. I am just an asexual coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:52 PM
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The insistence that only miserable people are on ppd is weird and nearly always promoted by people who say “I am here because I am miserable so everyone else must be too.” Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:49 PM
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And I am going to conclude you’re a shitty baker. I am sure my day will be good compared to yours! Toodles!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:46 PM
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No. I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:44 PM
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Who says women “barely” masturbate? I don’t have to pay for sex for the same reason I don’t pay a stranger to install lights over my dining table or build my furniture. I have super fun sex with my husband for free 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:42 PM
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They’re not “facts.” They are your opinions. I could state that men who don’t want to get pegged with 8 in dildos are “neurotic” but it doesn’t make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:39 PM
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I am married, I find your comments/beliefs repulsive and you have stated no woman has enjoyed sex in your company. There are my damn good reasons. I can list more but those are enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:37 PM
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Why do you need to label them? What purpose does it serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:35 PM
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And I have many “damn good” reasons not to engage in sex with unattractive strangers. Your lack of standards doesn’t reflect all men and your desire to frame women as broken men is not an indication of how humans in general understand sex or asexuality. “Women hate cake because they won’t eat it off a road side bathroom floor” - shitty bakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:31 PM
7

And here we go. “Women enjoy sex” doesn’t mean “women will have sex with anyone, anytime for any reason.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:02 PM
7

It has not been empirically proven. 🙄 And anyway- I am a woman. I enjoy sex. I don’t care if you do provide some weird blackpill nonsense hamstered to fit your agenda- I know what I experience and no stranger on the internet is going to convince me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:59 PM
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Yes- I am sure I am not the first woman to have told you this is a you issue. Thanks for the confirmation. You know making sweeping claims about all women doesn’t make those claims true, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:47 PM
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just like some men don’t like or engage in cunnilingus Why are you ignoring this? I am giving “carte blanche” to BOTH men and women to set their own boundaries. Why on earth would strangers have a say in what boundaries individuals can have in their relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:37 PM
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No. While it’s something I enjoy and engage in regularly, I understand some women don’t like it, just like some men don’t like or engage in cunnilingus. Those folks don’t have engage in oral sex but that may be something that they get broken up with over. Such is life. There is a huge difference in not liking something and feeling that it’s dirty, shameful or wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:28 PM
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“Women hate cake” -bad bakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:20 PM
3

But I do find some things gross. It’s just I found a man who doesn’t like those things either. Limits/boundaries/disinterest are not always “neurotic.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:19 PM
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Saying it’s sexual incompatibility is not “convenient.” It’s just accurate. Why would I marry someone who wants different things than I do sexually? Why would a man marry a woman who don’t want to do the sexual things he wants to do? I am certain my husband would not have even gotten serious with let alone married me if I wasn’t excited about sex with him, game to try things with him and bringing him ideas to try too. I wouldn’t have pursued a relationship with him if he constantly wanted to eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:12 PM
2

I have an n-count of 1 but make 6 figures. Six figures isn’t even impressive in the US anymore 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 07:03 PM
2

Why wouldn’t it be both? The assumption is that the husband wants more graphic (porn sex)and more frequent sex. Wife wants vanilla and infrequent. My thought again is that these people shouldn’t be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 06:46 PM
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I’m blue pill. It seems really obvious: the husband hassles the wife as little as possible for sex. I think this relies on an assumption that the wife is only having sex because the husband is demanding it and they are not a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:07 PM
4

1) bold of you to assume PPD men are getting anything very 6 months 2) Yes what I am describing is an “awful Bj” 🙄 He calls it “worshipping his cock” so I have literally no idea what you’re projecting onto us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:55 PM
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I just.. and then this part happened: Women aren't normally flushing, panting, squirming or spasming through normal sex even while having an orgasm. This is also why I talk of putting on a porn-like show. WUT?????
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:33 PM
7

PPD is depressing sometimes. Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:52 PM
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I have been with my husband for 15 years. Every time you have tried to wave away what people are telling you in this thread by claiming they don’t have LTR experience, you have been wrong so maybe knock it off? "I don’t need to go outside my character to satisfy him." is a very pretentious thing to say, because it claims that you're perfectly compatible and that he's satisfied and you don't need to satisfy him more. Or it’s just that he is satisfied and that I don’t need to do anything outside m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:50 PM
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Oh I know how you are skirting the rules. attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed. Then you’re just calling me a liar. It’s frankly crazy to me that you think someone has to go outside their character to satisfy their partner otherwise they are lying. It sounds like something who has never had sex with someone compatible before would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:26 PM
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Only after you call me pretentious 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:16 PM
5

How is it pretentious? Let me phrase this carefully: he has suggested/asked to engage in many sex acts over the years. I have happily indulged in them. The first time is always fun because we are trying something new and that’s fun. Some of those things were more than just novelty fun and have become regular parts of our sex life. Some of them were meh and we only tried them once or twice. He has never asked for a sex act that I have had to do “for him.” I legitimately enjoy having sex with him,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 12:05 PM
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None of us indulge in what? I am confused by what you mean by porn sex and it doesn’t seem like I am the only one. It sounds like what I define as everyday vanilla, sex may be porn to you? I don’t need to go outside my character to satisfy him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:46 AM
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I think your premise is wrong. “Putting on a show” is an odd way to describe sex or romance... Your assumption that all men want porn like sex just isn’t accurate. Sometimes we end up in weird positions, I am always enthusiastic, he would be pissed if I was “overacting,” and there are no non-vanilla acts that he bugs me for that I have to pretend to enjoy. For romance, neither of us likes big showy things. He’s affectionate in life- he surprises me with random, thoughtful gifts on non-occasions.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 11:28 AM
5

Exactly. I donate to PP every month. Get a fucking abortion and have them insert an IUD while they are in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:51 AM
3

Get an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:50 AM
4

Give people the option of where they want to fuck and doubt “in a car” is going to be top of the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 05:40 AM
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I think the issue is that porn sex (outside hardcore BDSM) is often vanilla behaviors but the intensity and intention is different than IRL. For example: I give my husband blowjobs often. However, I am not choking, he is not holding my head and ramming it onto his dick, he’s not calling me a slut etc. It’s all slower and I have more control over the speed and depth. He doesn’t require insane speed or suction to stay hard and I am being continually praised and complimented. The whole thing is rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 01:50 AM
1

That's how someone talks who takes attraction for granted. NO. I do not believe attraction is the most important factor. Either you a) disagree or b) agree but think men must be told it is because they are too dense to get it’s a factor at all. You seem to be arguing b) but it’s pretty unclear as you keep wanting to make this about how I don’t get your point rather than just making the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 09:24 PM
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Being a woman has nothing to do with understanding why it’s weak. Bad comparison, proximity is an issue with a solution that isn't complicated at all (maybe difficult, maybe extremely inconvenient, but definitely not complicated): move. Move where? How? When? This is utterly useless direction. That men don’t know how to generate attraction doesn’t make it 1) the most important element objectively or 2) unimportant. The amount of coddling RPers insist upon is staggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:25 PM
1

Your understanding of nuance, power and abuse is stunning. It speaks to a deep emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:14 PM
1

I don’t think they are. The prompt was for a BP person to describe RP beliefs. I don’t agree with any of the bullets in my top post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:09 PM
1

Yes all leftist men are molesting women and children 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 05:04 PM
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It’s weird that you seem to confuse a) “lots of strangers want to fuck me” with b) “amazing/fun/validating” sex. It is possible for both men and women to have b)- if they are attracted to/attractive to their partner, compatible sexually and neither has some weird emotional baggage. Just because women have a) doesn’t mean they have b).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 01:59 AM
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Oh I agree totally. I almost typed it but thought I was rambling 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 10:50 PM
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Nah- edgelording is saying something purposefully shocking to try to get attention. They don’t even believe it. It’s the other side of the coin of virtue signaling. I fully believe you believe all your very far right beliefs. I disagree with you but do not find you to be an edgelord. Can’t say the same for many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 10:24 PM
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I think this is the uncomfortable truth. Attractive men agreeing with your politics = attractive. Unattractive men disagreeing or agreeing with your politics = unattractive. This is obvious to most people. Only the rolling backpacks of the manosphere think anyone is saying an unattractive man becomes hot when he thinks women should have reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 10:21 PM
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Exactly. Of your masculinity is threatened by eating a black bean burger, you were not masculine to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:29 PM
0

Our one common value!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:15 PM
3

Politics are very important to me in deciding who to spend my time with- platonically and romantically. I would die slowly inside if my husband was remotely conservative. My husband is further left than me. I find the performative, boot licking masculinity of the right to be disgusting and repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 09:08 PM
1

I am very good at hate watching things efficiently!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:22 AM
2

Imagine having enough strength of your convictions to argue consistently and not dodge questions like this. I know it’s hard but try real hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 05:22 AM
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So lemme get this straight: this woman is saying she is fine with her husband physically hitting her if she is disrespectful. You’re mad because he was disrespected by his daughter’s classmate? You’re mad that she talks about their past when she wanted to have a job? Do you have a point? (Side note: I watched this slow talker on 1.75 speed since you’re very worried about us watching this, frankly, self indulgent rambling. If you are going to post content, make a fucking outline, run through it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 04:18 AM
2

Husband is at work. I am rolling around procrastinating the laundry I need to do...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 03:30 AM
2

You are right! It’s like people need to “brand” their fuckin’. So strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 03:16 AM
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The Daddy thing is fucking weird. Especially because the root of it is gentle dominance but with strong threads of care and protection. The behavior is vanilla as all hell but the labels are cringe. It’s the “punk” outfit bought at Hot Topic of kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 11:44 PM
5

We got eachother the same thing: permission to not celebrate Valentine’s Day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 07:02 PM
2

Woman. Words and secondarily touch. My husband’s are time and secondarily touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 06:49 PM
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The thing is: attraction is the most important quality simply because you don't really get into relationships without it (or half-assed relationships lacking passion at best), period. I think this a common RP talking point and it’s a weak one. I could say the same about proximity but no one would say that’s the most important factor in a relationship. Again- no one is saying that attraction isn’t present or isn’t important. Simply that it’s less important than other factors when picking a long t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:19 PM
0

Yes. Hold that frame 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:11 PM
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/r/marriedredpill No. I didn’t. If you disagree with: RP tactics are optimized for STR’s but will work in marriages and LTR’s (note: RPers recommend avoiding marriage as women have been liberated and will divorce rape you at the first opportunity.) Great. Tell your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:58 PM
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Such a cop out. If you guys don’t want to talk about marriage then don’t talk about it. But you all insist these theories apply to marriage too. And then cowardly say “hurr durr we don’t want marriage” the minute people point out how stupid the tactics are for that purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:52 PM
5

Explain to me why it is necessary to not be attracted to your spouse to acknowledge that other factors have a larger impact than attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 09:12 AM
5

K. I trust people who have been married 50 years more than the quota appeasing mod of /r/fightingwithsexists
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 07:37 AM
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Ma’am.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 04:09 AM
1

So until an oppressed group is represented in law enforcement, their activism was whining? Law enforcement is also mostly White. Do you think the Civil Rights movement was activism? Do you think it was effective?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:56 AM
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I am so, so sorry. Losing a pet is so hard. They are with us for far too brief a time and it seems like yours was cut unfairly short. I hope you take comfort knowing he had an amazing life while he was with you. My guy is turning 12 this year and while he still acts like a puppy, I know he will be gone eventually. Feelsbadman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:53 AM
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I am asking you to compare 2 activist movements. Do you not know enough about the history to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:42 AM
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Why are you linking me to stupid shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:37 AM
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It doesn’t seem like you’re debating in good faith here. You keep arguing that attraction must be present, which is not at odds with what I am saying. Why does “Not the most important” = “optional” to you? You can't will yourself to be attracted to someone. Where did I say you can? A relationship without attraction is worthless to a man . I have clearly said I am not advocating for relationships without attraction or that it is an ideal. I am not saying attraction is not present. I am not saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:36 AM
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While I don’t agree with your beliefs on the feminist movement I think you would find it quite different than most RPers in far more than tone. The only activism that is not whining is violent revolt. All rules are enforced with violence. Men control the violence. I am sure you can appreciate this is a very convenient definition of activism of one wants to frame feminism as “whining.” Regardless, suffragettes were violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:32 AM
4

Do you think the American Civil Rights movement was “whining”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:24 AM
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Of course it’s relevant. Base natures are garbage. Humans are often selfish and racist and awful. People who think “I want to actively work to not be garbage.” and do that work, are rewarded by their families and communities for that work are going to engage in less garbagey behavior. I will never understand (or respect) the repeated appeal to nature fallacy that is the root of all that is red pill. I am not saying attraction is not present. I am not saying it should not be present. I am saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 02:19 AM
1

Do you find your beliefs to be in line with TRP or RPers as they present their stances on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:47 AM
1

I have noted my age here many, many times but I won’t do it now because you’re a month old account acting a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:45 AM
2

Your contributions are so important. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:25 AM
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Reminder: NB "single most important" does not mean "sole" You think attraction is the most important factor. I think sex/attraction are on the list but further down it. I never said they aren’t present. Attraction is the only thing that makes the hard work of a relationship worth it. Telling men that compatibility is a good reason to get married is a guaranteed way to get a lot of divorces. You’re confusing the “why” of a relationship for the tools to keep it going. I was raised to believe marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:24 AM
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For an LTR or marriage? Compatibility and mutual compassion are tied, IMO. Edit: I knew I had typed this up before: Attraction is fickle, selfish and all around a shit foundation to build a lifelong relationship on. I say that as a person who has been married 8 years who witnessed my parents who have been married 50 years. I am sure unmarried or divorced men will rush in to tell me I am wrong and I will treat their opinions with all the respect they deserve. You don’t stay together (and more imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:10 AM
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I think it’s insane anyone would agree with these things. I know it triggers people on this sub but it’s why class and backgrounds come up so much. Many of these beliefs were shown to me as sinful, immoral or trashy and I was regularly and explicitly cautioned against in indulging in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:06 AM
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I disagree with literally all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 01:01 AM
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A good faith debate tactic would be to address what you perceive to be strawmen but I get it’s more comfortable to avoid actual discourse. 💁🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:43 AM
2

From the time they reach puberty the world is telling them one thing: “you’re inferior”. You know you just described the patriarchy... right? Women aren’t jealous of men, they are jealous of the societal power given to men. Hooray! Throw away your razors! You’re all feminists now!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:36 AM
2

1) I have seen this claim here many times before 2) Congrats on your broken clock moment!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:29 AM
5

It’s kind of impressive how consistently you’re just completely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:14 AM
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I don’t have a “moral” characterization. I have a literal one. attraction is the single most important factor in all heterosexual, romantic relationships- ONS, STR’s, LTR’s and marriages attraction is objective and deviations outside of western beauty standards are ugly. Claimed attraction to those traits is simply rationalization of settling for a less than ideal partner most if not all behavior exhibited by women is a reaction to the behavior of her male partner and a direct reflection of her …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:14 AM
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the women for whom these men would be a "hot commodity" for financial reasons generally aren't attracted to them for other reasons that have to do with race, class, standards of beauty, etc Exactly. The perceived social overlap that the manosphere imagines is just odd to me. Where are these soon to be single moms rejecting pre-med students for drug dealers???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 07:04 PM
2

I mean, even if you do spill the beans, that gift is so epic!!! I’ll be big jealous if you two get matching zipper mouth masks. 😭👯‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 06:25 PM
6

Hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:52 PM
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I like money so I make my own but I certainly wouldn’t marry a man I didn’t love for the money I make. Also, money is fickle. My dad was an entrepreneur for most of his life and he had a business go under pretty spectacularly before I was born. My parents worked incredibly hard to get back on track financially. They always taught us that you don’t pick a partner you wouldn’t want to be with in hard times. After the financial crashes we have witnessed, it’s clear that no one is untouchable. Why m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:49 PM
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1) that sounds AMAZING. 2) I can never keep gifts a secret... I am like “Do you wanna know? Do you wanna open it early?? You can totally open it early. I’ll give you a hint!” 3) OMG your flair 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 05:25 PM
1

We never do Valentine’s Day. Neither of us care. I don’t like sweets (do they make a heart shaped box of tater tots???) and he gets me flowers with the groceries every other week or so. We eat out all the time and don’t need an excuse to do a nice meal. He just got showered in gifts for Christmas and my birthday is coming up. Hardly seems worth the fuss. I don’t begrudge anyone else but Feb is just not a month when I want to do anything extra. When we were young and broke we bought a bunch of ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 04:55 PM
3

Ha. Even I don’t believe “Happy wife, happy life.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 03:27 AM
2

It's almost like a BPvRP debate is a luxury nowadays. This is painfully true. I am curious why you only debate blue men? That’s an interesting take!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 03:17 AM
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Both sublime and I are still blue. I started posting here 5+ years ago (I got rid of my original handle so don’t @ me about my account age). It was a different time. Dunking on guys who sounded like Ronnie from Jersey Shore while our president wasn’t calling weak chinned Nazi’s “very fine people” was one thing. Now, both the world and the tenor of this sub has changed. We not debating Ronnie anymore. We are also dealing with quite different real world implications of the angry men posting here n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:46 AM
4

How is a screenshot from you of you downvoting a logical fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:29 AM
3

Salty. You and I both know that is not why the bloops left.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:27 AM
3

???? I am saying you’re clearly guilty of what you’re accusing others of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:26 AM
2

🕵️ Anytime!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:22 AM
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Your screenshot shows you downvoting. Maybe your posts suck and that’s why they aren’t getting the sweet, sweet internet points you desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:21 AM
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It’s interesting that his screenshot showed he downvoted this comment when he’s accusing others of downvoting. (Sorry, not sure if this is allowed but given it’s a meta post, it might be okay?)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:16 AM
5

Some are born vagina cave villains, some achieve vagina cave villainy, and some have vagina cave villainy thrust upon them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 02:05 AM
6

I wish you guys would decide if this sub is totally red or deffo the blue pill super villain vagina cave.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 01:55 AM
2

You made the baseless assertion of only 20% men being attractive. You provide proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 01:07 AM
1

Of course it’s “legit.” A single income is a very different lifestyle than two incomes. In Northern Europe nudity isn't a big deal. We both know exactly what type of behavior I am pointing out. Again: the idea that someone who engages in said behavior is claiming women are working only to find new men is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 12:15 AM
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You’re the one presenting the idea that women only work to find new men. Other women work to provide for themselves, their families and their husbands. It is also frankly bizarre that you post nude photos online and engage in wildly attention seeking behavior but accuse other women are going to work to find a new man. I think this is a clear case of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 11:11 PM
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I prefer it that my man doesn't work. Both so I can have a trophy husband and so that he can't leave me. He can't be tempted by the world outside if he doesn't know what is there. And yet you commented this an hour ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:31 PM
2

I don’t think them having a choice has any impact on this. I am saying that sex workers are doing it for money. That’s their incentive. I don’t think sex workers are doing anything wrong so I am not hiding behind the “THEY HAVE NO CHOICE” defense. In this is unclear: Transactional sex for money= fine with Penny Transactional sex for sex= gross to Penny
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 10:22 PM
1

Sex workers often need money. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:58 PM
3

Oh good lord. This is an incredibly stupid ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:57 PM
1

Why? I said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:56 PM
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I ignored that part of your comment for a reason. Whether I find a guy attractive or not appears to have 0 impact on him getting laid. Men I don’t find attractive are marrying and dating and pumping and dumping other women all the time. I don’t buy your “most men are omegas” line.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:54 PM
2

20/80 is a myth even when people use it right, which you’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:48 PM
4

Most men do not have to resort to transactional sex. That’s just not true. And I know men who have dry spells because they want to be with someone who wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:42 PM
3

No, I have a realistic view of an exchange of money for sex under capitalism. I would not want to be involved with either of those characters sexually or romantically. I am saying your argument can be used to say no one has any sexual limits at all, it’s all just prudishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:41 PM
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No. Because the mindset of someone who visits a sex worker is not the same as a sex worker. Sex workers aren’t generally fine having sex with someone who isn’t attracted to them, they don’t need to engage in transactional sex for sexual connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:39 PM
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I do say so. I can be disgusted by behavior (especially behavior that can be exploitative) without it being rooted in prudishness. This is the type of argument where people claim straight men who don’t want to get fucked in the ass are just repressed so be careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:48 PM
4

Lucky for women, we don’t have to concern ourselves with “most” men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:39 PM
10

Totally. I understand that people sometimes just don’t like things! It’s only when they start telling other people what to like that it gets dicey.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:18 PM
1

Do not listen to this woman. She’s a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:16 PM
2

No. I am married, have watched porn many times with my husband and have no issues with him watching it. Christ, I been to sex clubs on multiple continents. This is not a prude thing. But it’s telling that you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:14 PM
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It's like masturbating with someone else's body. I don’t believe all men would be okay with this. And I don’t want to be with men who are okay with it. This has been a fine limit for me. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:06 PM
4

You are claiming men are unbothered. I think that’s obviously false, even when you look at the most desperate demographic: incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:00 PM
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Not the point of the comment. It’s that a man who was actually attractive to me who admitted visiting sex workers would be lumped in with this guy. It’s about why the standard exists for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:56 PM
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Even incels bitch about wanting to be desired for “validation.” PPD can edgelord signal all they want, I don’t for a minute believe men don’t prefer sex when the woman is very attracted to them. Maybe they convince themselves they don’t care because they know they can’t get it. Men who claim otherwise are exactly the men you filter by avoiding men who visit sex workers. It’s a great filter. 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:53 PM
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He dated and IMO he dated women who were actually way more attractive than him. His attraction to sex workers was to be with interchangeable, beautiful women for immediate and transactional sex. He said specifically when he was apologizing for all the money he stole that he wanted not to care about them. If no woman wants you why do you care about their opinions about your life? This is like me saying “No men want to date or fuck me so I became a vocal, political lesbian. Men what do you think o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:49 PM
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I would think it was gross. It triggers disgust. It shows he is fine with transactional sex, that he is unable to get his desired female attention without exchanging money and that he is unbothered by lack of attraction from his sex partners. It also reminds me of a pathetic guy I knew who spent huge amounts of money he didn’t have on sex workers. He was very unattractive and stole money repeatedly from his family and friends to get the attention of women far outside his league. I am not saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:33 PM
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Being sexually or romantically involved with a man who has hired sex workers is just viscerally gross to me. I feel no need to moralize it with a rationalization for why. I have no issues with sex workers. A few of my friends did sex work in their 20’s. I just don’t want to date/marry/fuck their johns.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 05:19 PM
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Being promiscuous isn’t the same thing to me as sex work or having adult content available online. I wouldn’t want to expose my family to the embarrassment of bringing someone into the family with content like that out there, same with sex work that could come to light. No, thank you. As far as promiscuity goes, I am not into the type of men who pursue and have lots and lots of casual sex. They just seem cheesy to me. If for some reason a guy managed to rack up a huge n-count without being a sle…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 09:35 AM
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Not sure where you’re not seeing this happen. My sister and her husband are very religious and adopted. They have lots of friends who have done the same. They are liberal “Jesus calls us to love everyone” Christians but everyone they know through adoption connections is some form of Christian. The Cheeto king and his nazi buddies have turned them off the Republican Party though so maybe that’s part of what you’re seeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 04:45 AM
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When Jesus friendzones you???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 02:51 AM
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You also make a valid point that FDS isn’t even demanding it in general just setting it as an ideal requirement for dating them. It’s even less intrusive than I was saying!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:44 AM
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My husband quit porn 5+ years ago out of nowhere. I never had an issue with it (hell, we watched it together). He just said he read one too many articles about the way performers were treated. He also worked on a show about trafficked sex workers and he just couldn’t suspend his disbelief and enjoy it. I was ambivalent when he quit but after reading and hearing about horror stories on the manosphere, I am grateful. He has none of the issues men half his age bring up on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:34 AM
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Sure. What I am poking at is that anytime a woman or groups of women say anything critical of porn, manosphereans claim they are being critical of masturbation. This side of the internet seems to forget you can masturbate without porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:23 AM
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Well, the rolling backpacks of the manosphere act like they aren’t saying either of those things. They act like FDS are saying “don’t masturbate.” Which is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 01:12 AM
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“Men cannot get erections from kissing and men physically cannot masturbate without porn.” - men who have totally not been negatively impacted by porn at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 12:24 AM
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Leaving the game when you’ve been sitting on the bench isn’t going to change the outcome. We are not worthy of the pearls you throw into this pig pen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 11:50 PM
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Are they demanding that men not masturbate or not use porn/use porn to excess? Those are two very different things and I think manosphere men conveniently confuse them as it makes FDS’a stance easier to attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 11:48 PM
2

Are... are you asking why actors are chosen for their looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 12:51 AM
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The buzzards arrived, as I noted they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 10:32 PM
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Totally agree with you. I have gotten into long exchanges that I would have avoided if I just peaked at their history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 10:29 PM
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I hope so. I am painfully people please-y IRL but the idea of caring what manosphereans think of my value is just inconceivable to me. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 06:49 PM
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Take the Jellicle pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 05:09 PM
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Hahah. You’re the best. Maybe they are in it for the cute cow videos???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:40 PM
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It’s going to depend on the man. I doubt many of my qualities would be considered HV by the dudes buzzards of PPD who will quickly jump on this thread to pick apart women’s answers. But that’s cool. My qualities got, and continue to get, me the commitment of a man I like and respect and have fun sex with. I don’t care about being an objectively high value woman, especially not to men who I don’t like or respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 04:08 PM
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Romance novels/ravishment fantasy. There’s a reason this is the type of erotica is made by and consumed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 10:40 PM
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You have a very narrow (and, frankly, male centered) view of sex. I reject the false narrative that the only way to enjoy sex is if you enjoy it outside of a relationship. An emotional relationship with my partner makes sex better, that does not mean I am having sex to “get commitment.” There is a projected transactional element here that just doesn’t exist for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:02 PM
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Considering I don't spend my life through a computer screen, I'm you'd know all about that. You’re literally on Reddit so foamed up you can’t string together a sentence but go off, dude. I’m headed out to run errands but project whatever sadness you need to onto my absence. Toodles. Good luck with your friends and remember: we are the company we keep!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:53 AM
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Your perception of how people use Reddit is weird even... foreign.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:49 AM
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Yeah, you got me pegged. We all wish we could be as chill and secure as RPers who complain about how all women they spend time with are terrible thus all women are terrible. It’s definitely that and not that I am debating your ridiculous claims on a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:43 AM
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Oh. This makes more sense now. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:29 AM
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Dude, come on. If you’re going to flair yourself as an asswhole, at least try to get your insults to land. Your first attempt directly contradicts itself and this one doesn’t even make sense. Disappointing but unsurprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:16 AM
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I sound just like them? Doubtful. Very doubtful. Nice attempt to deflect though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 12:06 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 11:24 PM
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Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 11:09 PM
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Exactly. I think men, especially men in the manosphere, harbor under the delusion that women experience life as a utility to men. It’s just not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:26 PM
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Not at all. He’s married now, has a truly cute baby and seems happy. I am happy for him. I am also very happy I didn’t marry him. I wouldn’t want to trade places with his wife and am glad I married my husband. At the time, said guy was very into the idea of an LTR, getting married quickly and being together forever. I liked him and looovvveddd his family. But it just wasn’t right and I ended up breaking it off before it got too serious. This was during an “off” period with the guy who would beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 11:06 PM
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That doesn’t change the definitions. Historically, RPW had been honest about seeking higher betas but I guess even that good part is gone. RPW is male dominated. The original female mods abandoned and distanced themselves for that very reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:39 AM
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Ofc there is. Good grief, how does a feminazi know more about RP terms than RPers.... 🙄 a solid, steady man who desired to do right and to do better. TOTALLY ALPHA YOU GUYS NO CONFLICT WITH TRP DEFINITION.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:37 AM
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That’s nice but not how RP defines alphas and betas. Alpha traits are attraction triggers, beta traits are comfort triggers. A beta male is a man who thinks he is inherently valuable just the way he is and self-improvement shouldn't be expected or necessary. Men born/raised with a lot of attraction triggers can believe this and they can be right. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Seems like you’re trying to make alpha vs beta “fair”- it’s intrinsically not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 02:54 AM
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Don’t listen to men, especially not old men and especially not red pill/MGTOW old men about how to behave as woman in a relationship with a man. What in their worldview would ever in any way be advantageous to you? Find women whose marriages you can witness, and aspire to and get their advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:57 PM
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But do you think his advice works for healthy relationships? No. I think they worked positively for him, a Black man from a working class background who ended up making a large amount of money. I think his material resonated with his largely Black audience. If anything Patrice is proof that TRP isn’t new. Or only for insecure women as a lot of anti-redpill people claim TRP is all about? It’s not about insecure women, it’s about what you’re promising and to whom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 11:42 PM
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Okay but how do you send pictures of your pets to each other???
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 07:38 PM
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24/7 is too much for anyone and seems unreasonable. Texting only for logistics is also unreasonable in the modern world while people work and travel etc. Some topics are inappropriate for texting but, in typical RP fashion, they have 0 nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 06:43 PM
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Become a comedian.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:06 AM
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People use the term “dildo” to refer to any phallic sex toy. But fine. Most women are using vibrators, not dildos. Even if they were, what is your point? It’s not a visual stimuli. It’s a masturbation tool like a fleshlight. No one is saying men are bad, women are good but that women respond differently to visual stimuli than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 12:17 AM
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I am not going to speak to what you find attractive but plenty of men talk about how just a body part is enough to pique their interest and visuals used by brands capitalize on it. A dildo is hardly visual stimuli, I doubt any woman would say she’s attracted to a dildo and most of the dildos used by women for masturbation (note that I am not talking about pornography which, because we are on PPD, I must state is performance and not about the porn actress’s enjoyment) are not shaped like actual p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 11:56 PM
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I don’t find men with feminine features attractive. I like Adam in season 1 of Girls, Chris Sullivan in Hairy Ape (I cannot find any production shots that really capture him in it, what a loss to the world), and Tormund.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 11:08 PM
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Why do dick pics bring disgust instead of arousal? It’s common for men to stare at women’s tits; why don’t women stare at men’s arms or something? Hell, why aren’t there any male equivalents for anything? Women get to have tits, ass, curves, hips, legs etc to attract men Apparently the OP and, from what I have seen, he’s not alone in that regard. A lot of ads focus on one body part of a woman. It’s a well documented phenomena. Disembodied doesn’t have to mean violence- it just means it’s a zoom …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 09:02 PM
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Never said insulted. Said you were uncivil which is unsurprising given you have no point other than “WOMEN ARE JUST LIKE MEN BECAUSE I SAY SO.” Very convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:48 PM
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No one is saying better or worse. It’s different. And yes, it’s very different. There are many, many very successful female erotica writers- likely there’s a reason you are drawn to male writers. There is a guy on pornhub who does postcast style content with no video just him reading erotica. It’s wildly popular with women. Get over yourself. You’re new but this is uncivil and against the rules. You can edit it out or I can report your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:34 PM
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Men in general? No. Specific men in context, yes. I have asked for and enjoyed dick pics from my husband. I ogle his muscles and like when he wears grey sweatpants around the house. But I don’t want look at the disembodied parts of strangers. That’s stereotypically male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:30 PM
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You do realize that “women like sex” or “women get horny” is not at all at odds with the idea that women are less visually stimulated than men, right? Porn for women is often erotica/written narratives and not purely visual bodies fucking like the material targeted at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 05:20 PM
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Yes, the idea that a blue piller would disagree with a linear chart of attraction is sooooooo crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 02:22 AM
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It makes sense that you would go to the worst show on television and not The Beatles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 08:19 PM
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I 🖤 you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:48 PM
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I don’t think charts are helpful and I am explaining why. Why would I make a chart? I don’t think any form of a chart relating to this subject is helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:44 PM
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All you have to do if you want to answer that post is to write what made you choose him and for what reason. Except that’s literally not the question. The request was to place him on some weird chart, which is not how women think or how life works. People shift on the chart. I made out with the dude who would become my husband at a party because I thought he was cute and charming and I liked that I had known of him for years but he was totally different 1:1 than what he seemed like from afar. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:25 PM
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I was 21 and we were in college. Potential was all that existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:12 PM
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Literally no one would have called him “hard working” in college, when we started dating. Not even him. Sounds like you have a narrative you want to project onto strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:11 PM
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You don’t 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:58 PM
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You get it ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:58 PM
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This thinking is so alien, I can’t do that. Further, I hooked up with/started dating a broke college dude from a nice family. I married a struggling artist. I am now married to a gainfully employed artist. Same dude, he hasn’t stayed static on the chart. The OP’s “chart” isn’t how women think or how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:50 PM
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This isn’t how I think about men or hookups or marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 03:16 AM
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Why do men on this sub think “Your name is Penny Lame cause you’re lame” is a sick burn?? I gave myself the name, ya dolt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 02:28 AM
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I agree this post is very boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 01:46 AM
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Woman with no self respect has mediocre sex which she views as great due to low standards. What else is new?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 12:25 AM
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We need more mods.... you are on overtime!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 09:55 PM
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“Tricking” someone is worse IMO. But I would next anyone who I found out did either of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 07:00 PM
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No. Women are human doings too- it’s just that many men limit that “doing” to “gives me a boner.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:01 PM
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A good man, everyone. The only reason women aren’t into him is that they are afraid of discipline. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:42 PM
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... I am not telling you to stop. I am saying that 6 figures isn’t some insane goal that only people who forsake all other ventures can achieve. I am using myself as an example of that. No, I don't live outside of a false dilemma. No, you don’t live outside of a logical fallacy? I am saying you have presented a false dilemma here. A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional optio…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:03 PM
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Yes, I was thinking $’s- I’ll let Atlas yell at you about the US being the center of the world. Even so £100,000 is $131k... not that much, dude. I make that in my 30’s. I also drink and party. You networked with these people. Young women aren't networking like this, they get drunk for the sake of getting drunk. There is a difference between what you did and what the average young woman does. I am not interested in you telling me I am special or my behavior is appropriate. I am trying to paint a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:44 PM
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From my perspective, that sounds both boring and like poor time management. If socialization is not something you want- fine. You’re incompatible with people who do want that. If socialization is just totally off the table due to lack of time, you’re incompatible with people who can manage their time and fit in their priorities. Frankly, 6 figures isn’t actually that much (sorry- just the reality). I accomplished that income while putting up numerous shows, promoting them and getting drunk with …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:20 PM
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I think you have just conveniently defined “good” men as “boring” men. The fact is that plenty of young people have fun and party and still manage to build up their careers at the same time. My husband and I partied plenty together when we were young- we still do. He managed to carve out a career in an incredibly competitive field, I make good money in a more mainstream field, all the while we produced multiple shows a year, both together and separately, over the past 10 years. You’re presenting…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:00 PM
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Sigh. We are not talking about systemic oppression of people to civil unrest or financial disenfranchisement. AGAIN, your words: hate at someone's innocent choices Quit moving goalposts. It’s not helping your case. Regardless of gender anyone who unprompted shouts their romantic preferences gets some backlash. MORE importantly: this thread is prescriptive not descriptive which I find very common with male declarations of “preferences.” Men say “women who drink are bad for LTR’s.” Women say, “I l…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:55 AM
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Never been to a rave but definitely still go dancing and hang out in dive bars and get wild in Palm Springs 😂🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:27 AM
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I can’t take credit- PPD laydees been calling ourselves that forever!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:04 AM
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Get ready for your scarlet letter, you fallen woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:03 AM
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Never said you were sheltered but that it doesn’t sound like you spend much time with populations that experience actual hate or oppression. Exactly as I said. Rolling backpacks want to pontificate about their “preferences” online and expect no commentary (but let’s be real what they really want is praise). Don’t want commentary on your preferences? Don’t talk about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:02 AM
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We both know combat is not the same thing as: hate at someone's innocent choices
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 11:44 PM
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Sounds like you spend very little time with populations that experience actual hate or oppression. Someone calling you a square for pearl clutching about drinking is hardly “hate” or someone being “upset.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:01 PM
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I don’t give a shit what your gender is. If someone gets this pearl clutchy about partying they are a square.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:45 PM
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I am sure you understand how little I value your opinion on “most men” or relationships standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 07:25 PM
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As a reminder YOU are the one referring to marriage as “hiring” a wife. I am saying a job and a benefit cannot be the same thing. And you keep saying that men bring all this value- so do women. I get this shit is your kink/troll fodder (which- ew). It’s just inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:48 PM
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When you are “hired” you receive compensation. And what does a woman/wife get in return for sex? By your definition she gets sex- can you not see the gaps in your logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:30 PM
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Going outside?!? How could you suggest something so distasteful?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:29 PM
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BURN HER! BURN THE WITCH!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:28 PM
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I feel sorry for any woman that defines herself that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:17 PM
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Geometry burns are the harshest burns.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:15 PM
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Well, you are probably a big sloot who shows her ankles while she dances the Charleston at a speakeasy!!! Take your bathtub gin elsewhere, harlot!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:15 PM
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As a woman sex should be the main thing that you appreciate about having a man. vs This is a huge scam because as a woman providing sexual services is your main job IMO. It’s either the benefit or the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 06:13 PM
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My god, this place is filled with squares.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:50 PM
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So one second you say sex is something a woman gets out of a relationship and now you’re saying not having sex is a benefit to a man cheating. At least be consistent with your trolling. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:23 PM
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According to what/whom? And please do not tell me because 50% of marriages end in divorce. That is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:41 AM
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Nah. Having sex with someone makes so much of the annoying stuff in life way more bearable. In fact humans wanting an all in one person for the lifetime, lover, parent, stable, good with the in laws and so on in is a very egotistical selfish endeavor we just accept. Why on earth is this selfish? Wouldn't it be more benevolent for the children to find the best co-parent possible? Part of my and many women’s (and I would guess men’s) selection criteria is who will be the best co-parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 05:35 AM
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Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 02:47 AM
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Men on PPD have told me they (and therefore all men) can’t get hard from kissing/making out. That sounds like an issue specific to those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 02:34 AM
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Wowa2dayoldaccountdefinitelynotatrolloralt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 12:26 AM
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Also reminded me of this which will never not be funny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:51 PM
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Depends on the way they depict Gertrude. It’s usually a better show if she was cucking him. Otherwise she’s boring af.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:39 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 09:21 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 09:14 PM
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To debate and discuss the manosphere and its offshoots. As a bonus, I also get nuggets of wisdom from the older married women who post here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:14 PM
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No. I do not. I want to debate the subject matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:10 PM
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To be clear: you put a comment onto a public forum. I responded to it. That is not a 1:1 conversation that I “started”. When I engage on PPD, I am usually doing so not out of interest in conversing with the person I am responding to but in debating the subject matter mostly for the people reading it. Why you think people posting on PPD are socializing or have the same guidelines or best practices as a one on one social conversation is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:53 PM
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🔪
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:21 PM
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None. There is a benefit to catering to a specific man who you have selected to spend your time and/or life with. Men on PPD think I am a cunt. My husband thinks I am a dick worshipping, party planning, laundry folding, video game/weed/vacation funding blessing from above. In exchange, I get a personal handyman, paperwork handler, carrier of all heavy things gift from god. NOTE: for the rolling backpacks in the crowd, the above lists are not all inclusive so please don’t come at me for who is ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:06 PM
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You have legitimately no idea how I engage with people socially. This is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:27 PM
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Anyone with a modicum of emotional intelligence follows this advice. If I initiate a convo I do not rely on that person to drive said conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:22 PM
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Nah. They’re both bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:32 PM
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No. I would rather be forever alone than associate with conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 03:30 PM
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Well, I never said I had no complaints. I was just responding to the question in the OP: How many former boyfriends were douchebags, manipulative, selfish, demanding, overly aggressive, dominant, or sexist psychopaths that didn't care about you? And I never experienced that. I watched plenty of my girlfriends get hurt by the same guys over and over. I just never had an interest in the guys that treated them poorly. And those guys often treated me like a little sister and I enjoyed a protected st…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 10:26 PM
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I have only had 3 actual boyfriends, and I married the 3rd one. They were all good guys. Number 2 was a certified idiot and had douchey friends but wasn’t a bad person. He was just young and dumb and then wrote a lot of bad poetry about me on his livejournal after we broke up. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 09:57 PM
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I don’t know what you meant. I told you what I assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 07:17 PM
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That’s not a sub though. I assumed you were trying to link to r/whereareallthegoodmen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 07:08 PM
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I am guessing good men know how to link to subreddits... Seriously, why are you linking attempting to link me to white, MC men mocking mostly lower class, women of color? Why do people think their romantic success is dependent on the least privileged group????
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 06:59 PM
4

Wish I could say the same about yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 06:27 PM
8

Stop worrying about men in general and especially don’t worry about the garbage people on the manosphere. There is a world of good dudes out there who would be repulsed by the shit those idiots spew.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 06:01 PM
6

Demanding no one shame you for doing a shitty thing is the participation award of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 05:50 PM
2

Ah see- I was raised to believe creation was God’s love in action. Also, that we could only feel God’s love because of Christ’s death which is the ultimate “love is action.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 01:30 AM
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I am agnostic but steal from my upbringing when it services me! I don't think love is only action, though. I see what you're getting at, but sometimes I just like to sit in awe about how much I love my boyfriend (although maybe I am wrong and this is just adoration). That’s why I love that definition so much, it includes “accompanied by emotion” which covers a multitude of sins (so to speak). It’s action that is emotionally charged. And I would argue that no one would define just thinking of som…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 12:06 AM
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Yes. I think this is a huge problem on PPD. IMO, love is action. I will steal from Christianity as a pastor gives my favorite definition of love: love is an act of the will, accompanied by emotion, that leads to action on behalf of it’s object. Love is action; it’s something I do. Something my husband and I do together. Attraction and lust are things that happen to us. I am not a passive object in my life or my marriage. And here’s the thing: attraction is lovely and fun and I wouldn’t want to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 11:36 PM
8

Beautifully put.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:54 PM
1

Yes, that is what I meant by attraction- inclusive of looks which impact how much you want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 07:28 PM
3

What other kind of attraction are you imagining? Years in PPD have beaten me into only meaning “sexual attraction.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:40 PM
1

Statistically if you’re both college educated, it’s a good thing. Bad if you’re not college educated. I loved it. We were young and broke together and it was wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:38 PM
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No. Attraction is fickle, selfish and all around a shit foundation to build a lifelong relationship on. I say that as a person who has been married 8 years who witnessed my parents who have been married 50 years. I am sure unmarried or divorced men will rush in to tell me I am wrong and I will treat their opinions with all the respect they deserve. You don’t stay together (and more importantly fight to stay connected) through sickness and job loss and family problems and medical issues because y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:24 PM
8

I don’t know that BPers claim that women are strongly attracted to their average husbands but that most men are having sex/relationships. Married people have sex about 51x a year or once a week. Most sex therapists note that anything less than 1x/month is a cause for serious concern. So, I would say that being married does indicate the man is having sex at some frequency. The intensity of her attraction is hardly the root of the convo though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:22 PM
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It’s odd to say that women can only “like sex” if it’s purely carnal and has no metal elements. Of course sex is partly mental- I would venture it’s partially mental for men too but it’s definitely the case for women. That doesn’t mean the pleasure of it is about the “validation” of sex. I don’t feel validation in the moment of sex- like my thought process is “yes this feels good” not “this feels good and he picked me to feel good over other people.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:45 PM
0

Good bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:07 AM
2

I wanna know but I don’t really care? I did care a lot about him not being an asshole to girls he’d dated or slept with before.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 02:38 AM
2

You’re right. Nearly all straight, vanilla porn would be femdom if the roles were gender reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 10:47 PM
10

Guessing this may be tagged as Q4M so answering under auto mod. Men may not express desires to be dominant explicitly but they still want many of the behaviors that manifest from that dynamic. Even typical vanilla sex has situations which are stereotypically exciting for men and can be viewed as him in a dominant position: blowjobs where he’s standing and she’s kneeling, doggy style, finishing on her face or tits, her begging, him being in control of when she orgasms, etc. IMO, men believe that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:23 PM
13

Getting hugged or held by them is overwhelming in the best way. People defer to them. Everything they do is intrinsically masculine due to their size and stature. They aren’t insecure about it. Big...hands and feet. People go broke, lose their hair, get fat- tallness is pretty unchanging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:55 PM
3

Yes. Most men have a lot of beta traits, as long as they have enough alpha traits, they still inspire lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:52 PM
7

Exactly? You’re telling me I would have compromised. I think you’re wrong and I certainly know better than anyone else. Looking back at the short dudes who pursued me, I would rather be single than with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:04 AM
4

How about you not tell people what their preferences are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:41 AM
7

Most? So not willing to compromise on height makes me an outlier, right? 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:34 AM
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It’s apparent in real life couples this isn’t the case. There are plenty of short/average height men in relationships and single tall dudes. Women prioritize different things. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:08 AM
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No men have a chance. I am married. 😂 I am definitely an outlier. I prioritize height over a lot of other traits. For example, husband has been shaving his head since high school and is a cue ball now. A lot of women wouldn’t be into that. Just like I am not fine with an average height or short guy with a full head of hair. It takes all kinds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 03:12 AM
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Never. I wear regular heels 1x or 2x a year. I danced in heels for years. Over it. I’m 5’3ish and my husband is 6’4”. I don’t just want him to be taller than me, I want him to be a lot taller than me. I think you’re confusing 2 groups of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:22 AM
1

... right. “No incentive” means I get nothing out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:37 PM
3

I have no idea and no incentive to tell you if I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:26 PM
3

The genesis of that post was a guy saying he couldn’t get a gf. Girls would fuck him and not date him even though he wanted a relationship. Does that sound like Chad to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 09:18 PM
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Have only had PIV sex with one dude. Yes, it feels good. No, I am not curious about other dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 07:11 PM
2

Yeah. I waked and baked and it’s making me sad at this point. Imma have to block her for killing my buzz 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:02 PM
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You didn’t link your study. Google is free. Do some work yourself. No one is shaming you but if everything seems like shame... sorta indicates something, eh? Edit: not going to engage with someone posting inc*l content. For anyone else. Women do not respond to visual stimuli the way men do. So, of course they find photos of men unattractive. This does not mean they find men unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:01 PM
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No, you’re actually not right and your bizarre victimhood monologue doesn’t change that. Women do not respond to photos the way they respond to men IRL. Analyzing how women respond to photos is useless. This is well documented and google is free. My last sentence was a suggestion to men having a hard time on OLD: go outside where women can see you and not a poorly shot photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:58 PM
3

Psst: look at her comment/posting history.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:37 PM
24

What if I told you that tax rates were decided by income and not gender. Shocking, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:23 PM
5

That OK Cupid study is a meme at this point. GO OUTSIDE.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:20 PM
3

I know. It also seems like they are lamenting a mentality where everyone not just crazies Blackpillers/femcels on PPD do this (look at OP’s other comments in this thread). I disagree and I live in LA.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:47 PM
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I’m about to turn into my mother when I say Jesus, Mary and Joseph, why are people so focused on looks??? Normal people walk around all day and manage to inspire enough sexual interest to put parts together that are different. Comparing yourself to people who are literally hot for a living is going to drive anyone insane. Don’t do it. Take serviceable care of your meat suit and then form a fucking personality. Also, maybe therapy??? My god.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:36 PM
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How will this impact men who are primarily looking for sex? This is at odds with your title. Do you want to know what secure women offer “men” or “men looking for sex”?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:05 AM
1

I meant your “weak comment” retort. Seemed like you were defending these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:54 AM
5

So white girls on Instagram??? That’s what that means right? Help me, wine mom. You’re my only hope!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 08:51 PM
10

Can you hear that? It’s the rumbling of an incoming circle jerk. May the chafing begin!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 07:12 PM
2

I think that has been a long held PPD theory. Shorter sex sessions lead to more sex overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 07:00 PM
1

But you’re defending their hypocrisy soooo...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:07 PM
3

Always the last to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:05 PM
1

It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:40 PM
1

Obviously, if women like sex with their partners it is unnecessary to utilize “dread” or fear that he will leave her to inspire her to want to have sex. She likes it. Weasel word tactics will not help your case. Dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:27 PM
1

Dude. Stop. Plenty of women actually like sex with their partners. Which is why we have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:15 PM
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Loneliness sucks. Sex isn’t a catchall remedy for that. And he’s saying he feels isolated because people don’t even understand where his loneliness is coming from. Most importantly, he’s approaching the situation with humility and openness. He seems like a sweet kid. My heart hurts for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:37 PM
1

I keep a record like this and really like it. Life is only understood in reverse and I like to look at trends over time. I asked my husband if it was cool before starting tracking beginning of 2019 and he was ambivalent about it then but definitely geeked out this year when I was able to show him the stats for a year. We don’t track duration just frequency and activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:30 PM
1

Women are clearly responding to other things. That’s what makes it unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 03:25 PM
1

Yeah- I was curious about differences but only the ladies are piping up!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 07:08 AM
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These threads always make me laugh. I am the beta bucks in my relationship. When I drive by a really beautiful house, I think “I wish I could buy that for [Husband].” And I get so excited about buying him presents. The cartoonish imaginations here are just off base on what this type of marriage can look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:29 AM
3

I am sorry, man. I really do feel for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 05:20 AM
4

Some people did. Doesn’t change that there have been women aligning with RP beliefs for years. What you’re claiming is some new phenomenon is not new at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 01:44 AM
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Can... can you not read the other responses?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 01:35 AM
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NP! You just had to place yourself directly in their line of sight for an extended period of time and make it very apparent that you are interested in them. They tend to be oblivious. RP calls men fishermen. These dudes are nets.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 01:13 AM
1

Yeah. Rage = lotsa free publicity. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 12:04 AM
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Maybe? If you really want monogamy, college is a good place to find your person though. I saw a lot of people pair off senior year though! So don’t worry too much! You’re young. I know that is petty comfort when you’re lonely but it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 12:03 AM
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5 years ago there was a thriving, active RP women sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:56 PM
2

You just realized that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:56 PM
2

I hear you on the weekend front. We always end up having morning or afternoon sex because after going out is hit or miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:45 PM
2

Yes- thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:38 PM
2

Dread is unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:26 PM
1

Ah. Lame!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:19 PM
2

“Sex tracker by Nice” on Apple! I am a sucker for data and I like the little icons 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:15 PM
1

Oh dang. You might like it then- it does frequency and duration and it’s a pretty nice interface!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:07 PM
1

Are you the one who recommended the Nice app to me?? Because I love it!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:03 PM
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Yes. I said it wasn’t an issue for my nearly 40 year old husband and he told me that men don’t do that and gave me a lecture on how to give him an erection properly. 🤷🏼‍♀️ PPD, folks!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 11:01 PM
1

I will answer for good faith: Female, blue pill, married. we have sex ~3x/week we sometimes have quickies which last like 7 min if we’re rushed, weekday sex can be like 20 min and then sometimes we end up taking an hour or more? Depends on our moods. weekday is usually making out, rolling around, a bit of oral and finishing with sex or not. Vacation/weekend sex is longer and has more variance. Sometimes this just happens on a Tuesday and surprises us both. Only requirement is that we both orgasm…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 10:54 PM
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This a million times. Since men here like to lecture me that grown men can’t get erections from kissing... I am pretty sure their Wednesday night sex looks nothing like mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 10:27 PM
2

Grass is always greener, I suppose!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 10:09 PM
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I think it’s entirely dependent on the needs of the parties in the relationship... I don’t think there is a universal answer. I do think that men who stay with girlfriends who won’t suck their dicks and will only have sex 1x/month on a bed of rose petals shouldn’t be shocked when they have wives who won’t suck their dick and will only have sex once a month on a bed of rose petals. Or they expect that women who run and do yoga and eat 1500 calories a day should still fuck husbands who gain 40 lbs…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 09:31 PM
5

Sometimes a girl just wants an assisted orgasm. But there are risks to a random hook up. He could be bad at assisting with orgasms. He could be an asshole who tells everyone. So when a gf tells you she had a fun hookup with someone in your wider circle and you never heard of it from him or anyone else, you file that info away. Women talk about novel things in hook ups so maybe she tells you he has a huge dick or is uncut or does something weird that sticks in your head. Then when you’re drunk an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 09:09 PM
5

Also, an issue that might be coming up is you have fucked enough women casually that that's shaped how you're seen in the female dating/sexual matrix. You are typed as a hookup, and that's affecting how other women are seeing you. This is very true. Especially if a guy is known for being good (or even serviceable) in bed and discreet, girls talk and put him in that box.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:30 PM
5

I don’t orbit Chad but go off, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:25 PM
2

I get it. I am saying no one online will be able to give you feedback like people who see you and your behaviors IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:22 PM
4

I am woman and not Chad but I can imagine this happening. I have seen it. I don’t need to experience something to understand someone else has or is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:10 PM
4

It would be better than PPD 😂 Any gay guy friends? I know that’s who slapped the stupid out of my husband when he was in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:09 PM
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Why is this so hard to believe? I saw plenty of this in college. Girls are shamed by other girls for their preferences- they hide who they are actually fucking if he’s not high status or accepted by her regular circles as “boyfriend material.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:58 PM
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I have seen this happen. Dude was usually attractive to the girls but not “boyfriend cute.” They wanna fuck him but not have him bring to tailgates with their girlfriends. Using RP terms, they had too many alpha traits and not enough beta traits. Do you have trusted female friends to talk to about your specific issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 07:52 PM
1

“Gay, not cuck” made me LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:52 PM
2

Soooorryyy. To you and only you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:51 PM
7

They think they are high earners... people who make $80k/year bucketing themselves in with millionaires. Typical American mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:36 PM
3

A gossip is one who talks to you about others, a bore is one who talks to you about himself, and a brilliant conversationalist is one who talks to you about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:23 PM
5

Someone has a crush?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:21 PM
1

Downvoting is for cucks. 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:12 PM
2

Flair checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:09 PM
1

My god you’re annoying. No wonder you’re on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:09 PM
3

The real cuck was the friends we made along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:59 PM
1

None of these are fantasies. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:59 PM
1

Of course luck is a factor but lottery implies that it’s random. It’s luck AND charisma/talent. To pretend that these actors aren’t charismatic is just untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:56 PM
3

Let’s play a game! Cuck or not a cuck? COME ON DOWN! 1) couple had a MFF 3some where the female 3rd is totally focused on the woman. 2) couples has a MMF 3some where male 3rd is totally into the dude 3) dude watches other dude have sex with his wife (this is a gimme) 4) dude pays for his wife to travel to have sex with a man but doesn’t witness it 5) both partners are having sex with other people of their preferred genders What say ye, PPD???
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:47 PM
2

Danny Devito was hired as an actor because he has charisma. He was a notorious lady killer even before fame. Celebrities are not selected by lottery. Their appeal is why they are famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:38 PM
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I think most women would rather have a dude with a bunch of “bad” traits and a bunch of “great” traits than a 5 across the board. Women like stories, they like people whose faces/statures you can remember. A totally average guy with no outstanding features is never going to hold my attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:35 PM
1

Oh man. That is poetic. My condolences. You and the 7 kingdoms deserved better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:16 PM
2

I like your username btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:10 PM
1

I have never and will never say I don’t care about height. I care about height. I married a tall guy because I find his size very attractive. I have the downvotes and personal attacks to prove it. Edit: annddd.. this is getting downvoted 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 04:07 PM
0

Yeah, I also venture smaller leading men make finding huge muscle bad guys easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:57 PM
3

(impossible, since we all know that nobody makes more than $60K, but anyway), I ❤️ U
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:46 PM
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If he’s 5’8”- those girls have to be 6’. Sorta seems like they are insecure about being “too tall” and mocking him in self defense. Still not very kind but people are pretty ruthless with actors especially celebs (trust me, he’s fine.) Celebrities and actors are notoriously short. Even just in LA, people are SMALL. My husband is 6’4” and isn’t that much of an attention grabber in the Midwest but looks like an actual giant here. No idea why the industry skews to smaller people but that’s the real…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:38 PM
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I literally thought you meant when does a guy start getting TOO tall... 🙈 That said, one of the most sought after dudes in my arts program was a tiny guy, maybe 5’6” but wildly funny, talented and had the sweetest face you have ever seen. He was chased by most girls in the department (who he diplomatically rejected) and everyone died a little when he paired off with a very, very pretty equally tiny girl. They are now married. She is a teacher and he does bit roles on TV. He had high status as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:25 PM
4

Eh. Our wedding was a really good time. It was an incredibly unique day in that nearly everyone we loved was together in one room celebrating the start of our lives together. Of course that was special and important to both of us. We both roll our eyes but acknowledge that is was one of the best days of our lives. That said, it was just one day in our now 15 year relationship. I don’t think you have to hate marriage to like weddings. Also the divorce rate is not over 50%- that is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 02:22 PM
2

You’re claiming children are encouraged to play with their own gender. Cool. That’s not a thing in junior high or high school. No rebelling necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 09:05 AM
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By junior high and HS, it’s not rebelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:35 AM
5

I don’t get the point. Co-habbing is so much of the fun of being married/in an LTR. I do not miss having to cart my stuff to his place or having to plan our schedules around nights free. Also, sharing a space saves so much money- so does sharing groceries and insurance and utilities. Also, spontaneous sex happens way more when someone is literally always around. Again- I see no benefits beyond silly things like “I can have more/less throw pillows”???
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:01 AM
5

It’s maddening to watch so I am sure it’s hell actually modding. Thanks for trying to keep order!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 11:03 PM
1

I mean, think about it -- even a mediocre dairy cow will probably give 8 gallons of milk per day, and how many people do you know who do anything half as useful?! This made me smile so hard. Cows are adorable! I much prefer them to horses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 09:24 PM
3

Adorable. There is something so delightfully adolescent about intensely holding hands!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 07:57 PM
3

All this “your partner’s past” made me remember some of my husband’s weirder hook up tales. Apparently in HS he was bus snuggle/hand holding buddies with a girl. They never talked in school but on the way to swim team meets they always sat together and held hands and snuggled on the bus. This was their only interaction and they did it for like, years. In college one of the girls who went to HS/swam with him even mentioned that everyone knew not to sit in their seats. HS, man. It’s weird. And no,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 07:28 PM
6

I actually had this convo with my husband the other week. Something he noticed about romantically unsuccessful guys when he was young and what he knows of inc*ls now is that they don’t have female friends. He always hung out with girls through swim team, theatre, youth group and drugs. My HS guy friends were always made through drama club and performing arts activities. You don’t have to be cool to get laid- there is a reason sexually active band kids are a trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:26 PM
2

I don’t find taken men attractive. I remember in college this was always a drama causing behavior. At the time, I thought the girls engaging in it liked the drama and fighting more than the guys who were usually nothing to write home about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:37 PM
7

I see no reason to “hack” marriage. If people don’t want to get married- they don’t have to get married. I wanted to be financially entangled with my husband. We wanted the other to have rights to both our own and our family’s property. We wanted marriage so we got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:33 AM
6

OR- and wait for this amazing revolutionary idea- I could simply date and marry men who share my financial mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:30 AM
3

Reread the sentence. I wasn’t referring to my husband purse- but the strings he put on the unified marriage purse. Again- “frugal” people tend to see all money within their reach as their money ESPECIALLY their spouses’.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:25 AM
3

Exactly this. Thank you. I have worked with female VP’s (so they were clearly making very good money) who hid their bonuses from their husbands so they could escape the penny pinching. Sounds terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:20 AM
6

I would argue it’s not about getting everything you want but enough to make you happy/satisfied. It’s clear the men complaining aren’t getting enough to make them happy which should be a dealbreaker regardless of their partner’s past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:09 AM
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When you’re married it’s one purse. You’re insane if you think a self declared “frugal” men don’t control their wives spending even if she makes her own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 12:01 AM
7

Yeah, frugal men have LOTS of opinions on how other people spend their money
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 11:56 PM
3

No- frugal is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:34 PM
10

Yeah, frugal men have LOTS of opinions on how other people spend their money... no, thank you. I want to be able to take a car rather than the train, upgrade a plane ticket or order takeout if I have a had long day. And if I am making my own money, I don’t want to have to pry open purse strings of my “frugal” husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:31 PM
15

What you’re not getting is that I do not care how he behaved with his previous partners. I care how he acts with me. If he wants a pre-nup, I am out. If he’s “jaded,” I am out. I don’t care if he had no pre-nups or all the pre-nups with his ex’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:02 PM
6

I also wouldn’t date someone who lived a frugal and modest lifestyle. What does his past matter if we are not compatible now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 09:46 PM
5

Nope. Never seen this. I have seen men complain about their romantic failings and then years later being like “WHY WOULDN’T YOU DATE ME?” And it’s like “You never asked me out...” And I hang out with very leftist, artsy people who would be most likely to have this cartoonish SJW response.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 06:40 PM
3

Silly RPer. It’s just your turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 05:25 AM
2

I had a bunny as a kid- they get soooo sweet of you hang out with and handle them enough. My rabbit was litter trained and my dogs thought she was one of them!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 12:58 AM
8

Hmmm... I think this might be one of the disconnects in the “Wait X time for sex” camps. I think holding off is usually a good idea if the girl wants a relationship and fears she’ll get too attached once sex is introduced. I did this when dating my husband. PPD men foam from the mouth in rage about this. BUT my husband and I hung out for the first time at a party, made out all night and slept on the couch together... there was no doubt I was very into him. I think people are envisioning somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:55 PM
2

What crazy bitch was in the running that I was the safe option? If I am the safe option, I think he made a good choice not going for someone wilder than me. He’d be dead by 15 years in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:38 PM
5

Are people not kissing at the end of a first date that’s not a last date?????
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:09 PM
7

If he was hotter, you’d be fine with puppy kicking! AWALT!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:52 PM
7

My other favorite one is when they say “what would you do if your partner did X” and X is , of course, always something awful. If you say “I would be very upset with him...” they are like “YOU ARE SO TRIGGERED AND IRRATIONAL AND EMOTIONAL!!” No... I am responding to a question about how I would react to someone I love and care about behaving poorly not responding to you in this debate. I can hypothesize my own reaction without feeling it right now. Shocking for the emotional idiots here, I am su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:47 PM
3

Girl, you work so much!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 06:25 AM
1

Girl do Instacart! Chicago winters are the worst!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:27 PM
2

GOOD LUCK! Sounds like good news is the trend so I hope that keeps up!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:27 PM
1

Gorgeous!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:03 PM
2

NEW FLAIR?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:58 PM
3

Not me specifically except you literally typed my username. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:57 PM
2

Yeah. We all know you’re a gun Moll, not a wine mom!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:46 PM
10

I think what reads as smug is a reaction to YEARS of men on PPD who very clearly state they have never had a relationship lecturing the women here on both relationships and female sexuality. If you don’t dismiss some of the noise, you’ll go insane. If men are annoyed by the attitude they get when lecturing women on female sexuality- maybe they need to adjust their own attitude. I have never threatened anyone or used any slurs so I am not sure that’s fair to group this all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:18 PM
0

1) 58x a year seems really low to me... 3) ha. I am not even allowed to wear my Apple Watch during sex (which is annoying because I want it to count for my move ring!!) but husband says it’s distracting so I take it off. 6) I definitely had sex my wedding night. Half my married friends did the leave the reception, bang and then return to the after party in comfy clothes looking sheepish.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 09:59 PM
9

... what even counts as “faux” or “sophistication”? Should I lie about how I was raised or what my life is?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:41 PM
7

yes. I know. I am asking how a childless woman who doesn’t drink wine is giving you that vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:24 PM
9

What vibe is that? I don’t have kids and don’t drink wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 08:16 PM
1

I know. I have to say- I have come to realize how little people care about nice white ladies carrying substances. The things I have brought places... 🙈🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 01:19 AM
1

I basically always have edibles on me especially when traveling domestically or even internationally as long as I am outside of Asia. No one cares!! 😂🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 12:28 AM
3

.... so? It has nothing to do with male preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 10:23 PM
3

... can you really not take the logical step that I meant while making out and fooling around? I obviously don’t mean men walking around 🙄 Jesus fucking Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 10:12 PM
1

It was a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:36 PM
4

Is that something that is actually happening or the fever dreams of odd ducks???
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:47 PM
1

... what an insane way to define sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:21 PM
2

No. It’s not. What planet are you on????
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:10 PM
5

“I grab dicks” made me legit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:22 PM
0

I am not deciding I am telling you what the rest of the world already landed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:39 PM
5

21 and yes. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:34 PM
4

Stop trying to make “sexlib” happen. It’s not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:06 PM
3

‘women lying to men, treating them like dirt and using them' WOW! Those wily PPD women are able to do all that via Reddit comments?????
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:48 AM
3

It sounds like you’re saying you hammer women with questions to prove they like a thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:32 AM
6

I am talking about relationships between cis men and women. Insisting that maps to LGBTQ is weird. No gay men or lesbians I know would call a blow job sex- they’d call it a blow job. I don’t care what Reddit says, this is not how humans talk about sex when a dick is in the mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:29 AM
3

No. It’s literally not. A handjob isn’t sex, it’s a hand job. A blowjob is oral sex but it’s not sex. Sex is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:23 AM
1

... of course it is. Doesn’t make it sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 10:56 AM
1

No it doesn’t. Not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 07:47 AM
14

It made me laugh too. My husband said “It sounds like this guy doesn’t like touching women. He should probably just avoid it.” And I know! I meant widespread amongst Reddit Weirdos!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 06:54 AM
3

this place is about finding solutions... No, it’s fucking not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 06:39 AM
1

Fair enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 06:37 AM
1

1) sure but it’s a step below marriage. 2) no. My parents are married. My grandfathers were a dentist and an accountant. I am not that kid of girl. 3) no idea. It’s taboo to have children and not be married in my circles. Edit: 4) absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 06:28 AM
18

Oh Jesus. I had a debate with a dude here where I said my nearly 40 old husband easily gets an erection from making out and was called a liar and given instructions on how to ACTUALLY give him a boner... i has no idea this stance was widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 06:21 AM
21

I think you’re confusing two populations BUT do you think you can’t see and or feel how big his dick is through jeans? Also, at least personally, waiting was a slow escalation to sex. Before I had intercourse, I had seen his penis PLENTY. We just hadn’t had sex yet. I also knew he was a fantastic kisser and could get me off. When we got to sex it was awesome and I was unsurprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 06:06 AM
3

Exactly. If they do not POP, the seal is broken. Must discard. Ruined like jam.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:53 AM
1

Yes. What does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:52 AM
1

You’re acting like I spend time on this. I saw your comment on not blaming them- I do. There’s no “point” just a snap judgement because I find it dumb. I don’t independently spend my time thinking platform crocks are dumb. But when Balenciaga puts an ad for them on my feed, I think “dumb.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:35 AM
2

Very important reason: PennyLame was taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:32 AM
1

NEVER!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:29 AM
5

Well he sounds like a literal alien in his OP. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:22 AM
3

Does that mean the thorax hole? Or the mandible hole?? I know what it means. I just want to see if YOU know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 05:18 AM
3

Men can tell because they didn’t make that POP noise when he touched them. The seal has been broken!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:51 AM
13

I like talking about work, my background, their background, their additional academic interests. “And I do this using my mouth like all human males, of which I am one. I do not do this by rubbing my wings together... because I am a human man...”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:48 AM
1

Aw thank you!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:42 AM
5

... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:39 AM
2

Spending the night in an airport thanks to snow. Sigh. Update: took a bunch of edibles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:36 AM
1

I don’t think about any of the people you’re describing. I am responding to your comment where you bring them up...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:36 AM
2

Are you western?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 04:35 AM
4

Can't blame em I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:50 AM
3

I... I was kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:49 AM
3

Touching the bobs???
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:10 AM
7

... are those things you see happening on PPD? Because I think you missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 03:06 AM
4

Exactly so it doesn’t even count. If she’s not in a glory hole right now she hates sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:34 AM
9

CMV: If a woman is not currently kneeling in front of a glory hole, she hates sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:15 AM
4

In this analogy? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:26 AM
3

I reject the idea that sex is a “reward” or an “afterthought.” I believe you can vet for sexual compatibility without having full blown sex. You’re still kissing, making out, fooling around etc. I also reject this notion that you should have sex to vet for sexual compatibility. Unless you have some really specific kink- it’s always going to be a little awkward and get then progressively better with time and getting to know each other. You don’t have to have sex to gauge chemistry and the way you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:20 AM
4

He’s there too. A person who likes gas station hot dogs. He can understand that I may not like the hot dog and that I may want to have a better meal elsewhere. Or he can demand only hot dogs so I find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 11:49 PM
2

I think the thing is is that FDS (for all their flaws) are trying to mimic timeless, “good girl”, wifey behaviors. I don’t think it’s fair to say everyone who engages in those behaviors dislikes sex. I also don’t think it’s fair to say FDS girls dislike sex... especially if they have had it before and are desperately trying a different tactic to get commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 11:39 PM
26

Can we rename PPD to “men lecturing women on female sexuality and other stupid things”?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 11:33 PM
2

Your post says nothing about FDS merely waiting. It seems I am pointing out a flaw in your logic so you’re moving goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 11:18 PM
14

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 11:11 PM
9

Of course there’s room for the other person. Only certain people would make the circumstances possible and so much of those circumstances are based on their behaviors. I reject your second analogy. So instead you settle for another restaurant that has really mediocre food but you're happy and comfortable with it because they have comfortable booths and a nice decor. Why? There is no scarcity that requires I settle like this. Instead I go to one of the many, many restaurants with amazing food and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:58 PM
9

I can’t think of anything, to be honest. If it’s a disqualifier, it’s not attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:54 PM
1

But skipping them is. If you don’t eat all day so that you can enjoy a really special meal- that’s literally fasting. Many, many people do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:51 PM
1

Lolwut. No they don't. If someone told me they starved themselves so they could eat cake I would assume they have an eating disorder. ??? I will skip or have a particularly light breakfast/lunch before a nice dinner all the time. It’s a pretty normal thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:46 PM
4

I mean probably me too! 😭🍸
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:36 PM
9

And I stand by the food analogy. He’s not a gas station hot dog but for many women casual sex is a gas station hot dog. It’s not the person, necessarily, but the circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:17 PM
7

But by your standards people who wait do not enjoy sex. Why is being nervous or wanting something “special” only acceptable for people who haven’t had sex yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:16 PM
7

It actually might. Women shouldn’t fake orgasms or laughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:13 PM
1

Refer him to my “You must be this tall to ride this ride” sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:09 PM
7

I care about making dudes who are clever or sweet when they approach feel good. I want gross idiots to feel bad and stupid so they learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:09 PM
18

"Hey let's go to this new restaurant that's supposed to be great." Yes. this is a totally honest comparison to casual sex as experienced by women. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:57 PM
4

🤡 actual photo of me defending high n-count women on PPD for the last 5 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:52 PM
19

I want to do things I don’t all the time. Do you people all have fucking wild credit card debt and liver disease????
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:48 PM
1

Because I don’t want to get too attached and have my heart broken. Because I don’t want it to be weird with all our friends if he ditches me. Because my sisters both get knocked up super easily. Because I don’t want to be labeled a slut by everyone we know. I fully understand that some people don’t look at every angle for the worst possible outcome. I did and do. It makes me cautious and no amount of hotness changes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:47 PM
1

Because she says so?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:43 PM
5

Why is it different?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:41 PM
1

I am just telling you that I personally have been wildly attracted and stuck to my boundaries. I believed I was setting both of us up for a better future. I just don’t see how what you’re claiming can not then lead to “she will definitely cheat the minute a hotter guy hits on her.” That’s the logical conclusion and I don’t believe that’s the case either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:40 PM
1

... so your claim is that women who haven’t had ONS’s have just never been sufficiently attracted? There is no possibility that she has wanted to have sex and had a boundary she stuck to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:10 PM
3

Maybe it is semantics... because in practice, I have a lot of sex which I enjoy. From my husband’s POV, he has an enthusiastic sex partner. I guess this stance makes me uncomfortable because 1) I don’t see the value in it because it doesn’t matter in practice and 2) I can see RPers flipping it to claim women with higher N’s will always cheat. I think it’s just that I had different boundaries than women who have higher n’s. Which is fine by me!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:06 PM
4

I would avoid claiming someone doesn’t enjoy something they claim to, period. And I will point out I am always having sex with my husband without complaints. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:57 PM
3

Not being at the level of relationship you want to be at for sex, not feeling like he would be relationship material, avoiding pregnancy, not liking the circumstances- there are a bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:55 PM
6

And this seems like a specific bone to pick. It’s not just debating RP/BP- it’s saying “no you’re wrong about what you enjoy because you enjoy it differently than I do.” So I am asking why? It’s a very specific gatekeeping stance. I would ask the same thing if the stance was “Women who have casual sex don’t like sex- they like attention.” That’s a similarly invalidating and gatekeeping stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:53 PM
7

And I don’t get why people who engage in casual sex are gatekeeping “enjoying sex” in this thread. What is the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:46 PM
4

This is just not my experience. This is willpower like anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:41 PM
7

I think that’s a false analogy. If I said “I love singing” but then it turned out I only sing for people I trust and not for huge crowds, no one would claim I don’t actually love singing. Or if I say “I love Paris” but have only been once, I still love Paris.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:38 PM
22

“I love food!” “Here, eat this gas station hot dog.” And refusal means they don’t actually love food?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:24 PM
3

You can choose not to have sex even if you’re attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:22 PM
13

I grew up being told that sex was a beautiful and amazing experience. That it was one of the only joys from Eden we were able to experience after The Fall. It was evidence of God’s mercy and grace that we could physically make love even in a fallen world. It was also a joy that made the sometimes hard parts of marriage easier. (I am no longer religious- I basically broke my mom’s heart by declaring myself agnostic at 12 but I think there is a kernel of truth in the teachings I got.) I was also t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:17 PM
8

Why do some people think that just because their romantic/sexy life is bad that must mean that other people’s romantic/sex lives are bad too. I dismiss the claims that everyone is having a horrible time dating. There are plenty of dudes here who claim women find 80% of men repulsive. People repeatedly tell me and other married/partnered people we’ll be divorced/cheated on/screwed over any day now. That is what people are pushing back on, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:56 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 12:39 AM
6

YES. I did a break down of how they are different here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:01 AM
2

I would have said “yes” until heard the insanity of “social norms” as defined by red/black pillers on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 04:09 PM
1

If they do, it’s not useful as a label.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 03:44 AM
6

Yup. Remember back in the day all marriages described as happy would be labeled “red pill.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 03:11 AM
5

I keep saying it because it’s how it’s actively used by Blue Pillers on PPD. I keep saying it because using it the way OP is using it is utterly useless to debate. Which was fine in the echo chamber of TRP. Not useful here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 03:03 AM
10

This is a strawman. Blue Pill is just a rejection of The Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 02:36 AM
5

Height was not this big of a deal before OLD. I’ve said this before but think it bears repeating: When I was growing up “tall” was the nice girl answer when someone asked you what kind of boys you liked. It was non-sexual and unchanging. People gain weight, get old, lose their hair, he will always be tall. It was the same thing as guys saying “Pretty eyes” or “nice smile” in regards to what they like in girls. Now, women use height to imagine how a man will make them feel when looking at picture…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 01:45 AM
3

Yeah this is the same level I am cool with. It’s fun every once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:50 PM
1

Ah yes that classic debate tactic: just saying “NUH UH.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 03:41 PM
24

I workout in a gym about 5x a week (cardio makes me feel less crazy). Husband does not. He did really physical work as part of his job for many years and hates gym culture. He does yoga because his back is all fucked up from being a giant and he walks a lot. We are both chill about it and move for health/sanity rather than any crazy gains goals. The reality is that women who really work out and value fitness expect that from their partners. It’s not some devious thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 08:45 AM
7

In fairness, we didn’t beat statistics. Divorce rates in our demographic are very low. That said, we both try to be compassionate with each other and assume the other wants what’s best for us. We’ve been lucky in having examples of older married couples to model after. We fight but don’t fight dirty and know it’s not the end of the world. We’re each crazy/garbage/capable in complementary ways. I am glad you're over that bad stuff now. Thanks! We have been really lucky all in all. There will alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:53 AM
2

🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 12:33 AM
11

Oh thanks! We are totally fine. Miscarriage happened many, many years ago! These have all been spread out over 14+ years. So we had time to recover between, luckily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 10:59 PM
3

I am not a mod. I can’t ban you. I do mock people who can’t fucking read.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 10:43 PM
27

Our longest dry spells have been due to medical issues. Both of us got terrible food poisoning one right after the other. He got walking pneumonia. I had a miscarriage and the doctor said vaginal sex could put me at risk for infection.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 10:20 PM
5

I am not big on high pressure things like Valentine’s Day or expensive dates. I do really love unexpected things that show he’s been listening to me. Also, I do find consideration in the mundane romantic. We went out got drunk as hell last night. Husband got up before me, took the dogs out and brought home breakfast. We’re both physically affectionate which makes me feel consistently connected to him. I get the feeling I take these things for granted. It’s hard for me to imagine life without the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 07:42 PM
17

Nothing? All it means is these successful women should shoot for janitors and Cabana dudes within their own companies, much like a CEO his maid or secretary. CEO’s don’t date/marry maids. The women I know who out-earn their partners are with men who have careers in nonprofit/academia/artistic realms. This is similar to rich men who marry dancers or women in philanthropy. But, yeah, not a huge issue, if neither party makes it one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 06:55 PM
14

I have passed out during foreplay. I was 21 and drunk though. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 03:18 AM
3

Yeah. In my (apparently triggering example) I am literally talking about a 10 year old marriage... I have no idea why this guy thinks I am talking about his situation OR why I would be saying “IF ONE OF UR PARENTS DIE WHILE UR TOGETHER U STAY 2GETHER 4EVA.” I was saying that bonding over bad times creates stickiness. It was descriptive not prescriptive...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 01:45 AM
1

I will believe you when we don’t have worse here daily 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 01:22 AM
1

Ha. NP! Happy Friday!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 01:21 AM
2

I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:21 AM
4

I have no idea who this poster is. Not a millionth time announcement to me. Also- we get women like this here all the damn time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:20 AM
1

It was all thanks to kitty don’t lie! (also YAY!)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:09 AM
7

Same. I would like my gratitude in the form of 1) everyone getting off my lawn and 2) shutting the hell up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:05 AM
1

At this point, I’ll be generous and classify your behavior as trolling. Since you seem to value attention, I am going to go ahead and stop rewarding your behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 12:03 AM
3

Yeah that site is cringey as hell but I understand what you are saying. I just reject the approach of men vs women in this regard when tax rates are based on income.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:48 PM
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Why are you setting this up as men vs women? Taxes rates are decided by income not gender. I reject your entire premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:47 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:44 PM
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On average Americans have 1 ball, 1 ovary and half a uterus. Averages are not always valuable. You can identify that a policy doesn’t make sense by looking at individual impacts. For example, when tax rates are based on income but then suggesting gender is the deciding factor on who contributes/benefits. It’s stupid because many women, like myself, contribute and contribute more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:37 PM
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Hahah! I am glad you did! 💙
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:22 PM
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I do not care about averages. I am talking about individuals Don't you think that said men, especially rich men, deserve some gratitude for their generosity? No. Rich people have benefitted exponentially from society and it has enabled them to become or, more likely, continue being rich. I deserve 0 gratitude for my taxes which are not generosity. Nor do rich men. I am having a good time. Your suggestions sound like the fucking worst time. Stop projecting whatever it is you’re into onto everyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:21 PM
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The question was rhetorical which I get is lost on PPD. But still the idea that because men pay more taxes in general therefore NO women pay taxes is inaccurate. To state: Just like men don't owe women welfare, free health care and education. But men still provide it. Is factually wrong. People with higher incomes pay taxes which lower income people benefit from.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:07 PM
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I just feel like it’s a false narrative. People with higher incomes pay taxes which lower income people benefit from. It is not at all my loss. 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:01 PM
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... I am not from New Zealand. Further- I don’t care what other people do. There are individual women who pay more taxes than men and my question remains- are those women also expected to service men for taxes? I am pointing out flaws in this thinking. Of which there are many.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:48 PM
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I think this poster is a woman. Their history is... yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:42 PM
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What is this myth that men pay taxes and women collect them? I pay a fuck ton of taxes. Am a woman. It’s based on income not gender. So are women who make money not obligated to touch sad dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:32 PM
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I don't know the exact details of what the OP wants. I know that. I am asking OP. You could... let him answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:08 PM
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Laws are not always moral or just. Is he unsteady if he jaywalks? If he puts coins in expiring meters? Those are “laws.” I am asking the OP how it looks. Is he suggesting a full regression to the patriarchal model of men owning their daughters until she is married? Some new model? “We can hope”... If you want to create a new society, you have to flesh out the details. Otherwise it’s pretty lazy (not “good”) behavior...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:04 PM
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... is the OP not about good male behavior? How is goodness or steadiness gauged? What KPI’s are set? Who decides if they are met? What are women expected to do in response? Who ensures women are responding to male behavior that reaches the agreed upon threshold? What if men stop being steady/good?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 09:56 PM
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How would this look in real life? Describe how good behavior is assessed and how women’s responsibility is mandated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 09:51 PM
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🙄 original.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 08:19 PM
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Nah. I am not at all attracted to some people that other women go insane for and vice versa. People debate about Humperdink Bucketbatch’s attractiveness constantly. Some women think Tom Hiddleston is hot???? Some people don’t think Donald Glover is hot (idiots). There are some people who most people likely find universally attractive but I think people can also find deviations very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:40 PM
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You’re inappropriately personalizing and strawmanning. It’s fucking weird. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:25 PM
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It was an example... Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:24 PM
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Because I assumed it was obvious. Why anyone would not get that bonding is necessary is beyond me and speaks to a deep misunderstanding of attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:20 PM
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YAAAASSSSS
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:16 PM
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Okay well- I am 35 and have friends from 25-40. Most people I know get married in their late 20’s early 30’s. I have only seen one divorce where the man left her because she was depressed. The rest have stayed together and worked through a bevy of issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:15 PM
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Your inability to connect dots is getting frustrating and this level of personal discussion is requiring patience and tact I do not have. So I’ll likely not respond again. You said strengthening the relationship. I was explaining that what made it stronger was not simply grieving but bonding through it. If she cheated on you or whatever you’re defining as “becoming a slut” as a response to grief, that is the antithesis of what I am describing. It takes two to grieve together- I am not going to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:12 PM
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Because RPers don’t understand attachment. Take this exchange: 1) you thought just grieving= bonding 2) then you thought you grieving and supporting her was bonding 3) you’re not seeing how it requires BOTH parties to use grief to come together. That is a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:56 PM
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You’re misunderstanding. Read the sentence immediately following: And taking grief and using it as a way to create stronger bonds with existing relationships shows that she has healthy coping mechanisms. This about her behavior. If you were grieving together, it was one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:52 PM
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Kendra is just as likely to cheat on her husband or divorce him if he starts gaining too much weight, or loses his job, or stops generally being an awesome dude. It's what you would expect to happen right? No. I legitimately see people (and women) sticking through hard times. If your relationship is based on attraction and thrills- of course there is less of a foundation to cling to during those difficult times. I don’t think just pairing off in college embodies this- it was an example of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:50 PM
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... no she wasn’t. This is not about your behavior it’s about hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:45 PM
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And here we are with RPer’s not understanding attachment. Simply grieving a parent will not strengthen a relationship. Grieving together and bonding through it can. And taking grief and using it as a way to create stronger bonds with existing relationships shows that she has healthy coping mechanisms. A woman that responds to her father dying by cheating or whatever you’re defining as “becoming a slut” is not showing awesome traits. It so often reads like you guys think life happens to you/the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:39 PM
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I know. I used to think it was bad with a few really annoying posters but the influx has soured the place for me. We also have had a fair number of mods ghost. Sigh. Maybe I need to block more people???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:34 PM
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What a well thought out and compelling argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:33 PM
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Can we create some sort of shame board for the men compulsively answering Q4W?? YAAAY
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:29 PM
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I frequently see women on here saying TRP tactics only work on low value or low self esteem women, I would argue that RPers tell on themselves in this regard. They give descriptions of women’s behaviors that can only be described as extremely low value and trashy. Then you look at their tactics and you’re like “Oh okay- I get it.” If you try to get female attention by brashly signaling STR traits, prioritizing looks/attraction over all else, demand relationships not include any intimacy before o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:22 PM
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Why did he get a felony? Did he punch a cop at a protest? Did he take the fall for a friend? Fine. If it’s less altruistic than that- no thank you. Also, I start to get concerned about his family if he couldn’t get charges reduced...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:21 AM
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No. This is just inaccurate and, frankly, delusional thinking where women have no agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:45 AM
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No. It’s not about them. I know you want it to be but it’s not. Some people fight through hard times and make marriage work. The discussion is about who those women are, how and why. You just want to talk about some women not fighting through it. It’s not on topic. There are countless threads that give you opportunity to bitch about your exes. Let people talk about women who don’t act like them. Your input here is unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:16 AM
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And this post isn’t about them but here we are. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 04:01 AM
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🙄 the question was how a woman who values her marriage and is “quelling her beast” fixes lack of attraction. But please- pretend this is an opening to talk about your exes. It’s not old at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:51 AM
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Okay but tell me why I, a HVM, should wife up some sloot. Tell me. Tell me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 03:36 AM
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Oh totally- I get you’re talking about a very different dynamic! Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:26 AM
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Ughhhh the bachelorette parties. I was the first of my friends to get married and had to white knuckle through those weekends for years. I did manage to convince one friend to have the bachelor and bachelorette parties end up at the same place which was a HIT. I once had to share a bed in a hotel in the town where I lived for 2 nights for a bachelorette weekend so we could party and then crash together. I wanted to die. I love my friends but I am so glad wedding years are over. (I did attend one…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:19 AM
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Totally. And I will do the “girls night out” activities (getting dressed up to go drinking and dancing/bar hopping) with my husband happily so it’s not like I don’t like drinking and dancing. This also makes total sense why not doing “girls nights out” while in a relationship can seem really common sense or unhealthy/controlling depending on what you mean by that phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 11:30 PM
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This is really interesting! I will get together and have dinner with a gf or something but we are always hanging out at one of our houses or grabbing dinner. “Girls night out” was always very specific- you have drinks and get ready at one person’s house and then go bar/club hopping. Hanging out with my married friends while husband has a show isn’t the same. I am for instance going to spend time with friends next week when I am back in Chicago- I have dinners planned with two married couples, on…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 11:15 PM
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Oh to be clear- the pressure was never coming from the guys in the couples. It was just natural that everyone went out in a big group. Excluding the guys would just be odd? Wouldn’t they wanna come out and drink and dance and stuff? “Girls nights out” are something I associate with single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 09:42 PM
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I dunno- I would go out pretty much every weekend night and maybe one week night? But again- I was going out with my bf and other couples with a few singles thrown in. The “girls nights” were either very clearly noted as “NO BOYS, NO HOOKUPS- FOR REAL” or “NO BOYS, NO HOOKUPS-WINK, WINK.” I did the latter a few times in college and know it continued for some women into their 20’s in city life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 09:34 PM
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I think this may be a generational thing. I know my mom saw girls nights out as the most innocent thing in the world but by my time you had to be very explicit you were not going out looking to hook up. It also maybe regional?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 09:09 PM
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I think “good girls” go out- they just tend to do so with their long term male partners. They go out but it’s a very different experience. They may go out often while partnered and not at all while single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:46 PM
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Maybe we are thinking of different people but they always called themselves red or purple to me. Even if they “converted” to RP... they were still red. It’s odd to call them blue in those circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:33 PM
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Again- what are you defining as BP? Both those users were purple or red- as they described themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:13 PM
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What are you defining as “blue pill marriages”? Those women weren’t even self identified as blue pill...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:49 PM
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Don’t allow yourself to get to a point where you no longer want to fuck him. Keep things going in a positive direction. If things start to go south- correct it quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:41 PM
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Yeah the parental training she talks about here explicitly warns against older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:33 PM
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Shorter than me, too soft hands, alt-right/right wing politics, use of slurs, overly effeminate behaviors, self aggrandizing, interest in sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 06:44 PM
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Having grown up in Mormon-land: HAHAHAHAH
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 06:37 PM
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So you have often commented on this idea that women have no sense of the sex lives of men. I am curious about this assumption. It could be because I was in artsy fartsy circles for a decade where everyone talked about everything but I always knew from the male perspective what was going on in their sex lives. I would be cornered at parties by the girl saying, “he’s an ass and I feel fat and 1x a week is finnnee!” and then by the guy saying, “she never wants to have sex and she’s gained weight bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 06:07 PM
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I wanted to pick a quote that particularly resonated with me but this all seems VERY accurate. I even consider/considered myself a pretty hard partier in my college days and my 20’s but I was incredibly tame if I take an honest look at things. Highly sexual men and boys scared us, so we kept to ourselves and either dated or pined after the lead saxophone player in the marching band. Okay- this quote is just chef’s kiss. My first bf/love was my comedy/theatre nerd bestie. We were inseparable for …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 05:54 PM
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I wouldn't know - I can put in my own work 🙄 take your thinly veiled “woe is me” bullshit elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 08:02 AM
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Why are you quoting twitter nonsense at me? I have never claimed to be “strong and independent” in this regard- I wouldn’t use that cringey, trite phrase to describe myself. Walking or riding the train/bus alone at night fucking sucks. It’s so much better with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 07:47 AM
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Betas do not become omegas because women have money. That’s not at all what I am saying. I am saying women find value in beta traits in the form of comfort and (in your opinion- perceived) protection rather than money. If men are not actually offering comfort but revulsion- they are exhibiting omega traits. The woman having money has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 03:16 AM
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The traits are: alpha - attraction triggers beta- comfort triggers omega- repulsion triggers I always assume whichever traits are most apparent defines that man but I think it’s ideal (but often too wordy) to always just refer to traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:30 AM
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He did but was drunk and forgot it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:27 AM
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Marriage rates are only dropping in specific demographics, further proving it’s an economic issue. They are having sex with betas, higher betas and alphas. Calling omegas “betas” doesn’t make it so. Note that men are more likely to still live with their parents, making sex a logistical issue. The studies indicate that the issues are likely economic- a man having his own place (provider trait) would be more helpful in getting laid. So that’s actually an advantage for betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:26 AM
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And yet women still desire the company of men for this purpose. Again- your opinion does not change the demand. You may not think makeup is important or necessary- it’s still a multibillion dollar industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:17 AM
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This is an ongoing issue in the manosphere. You have to see the different types of behaviors/traits: alpha - attraction triggers beta- comfort triggers omega- repulsion triggers Men with omega traits lump themselves in with men exhibiting beta traits and it confuses the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:05 AM
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What does your opinion on it being necessary have to do with women desiring men’s company for the purpose of feeling safer in specific situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 02:00 AM
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Affection isn’t comfort and it’s laughable to think a pet can give at the same level as an SO. Try being a woman walking alone at night or on public transit- being with a man means you go from regularly being hassled to being invisible in the best way possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:50 AM
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Women marry “betas” in big cities too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:48 AM
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You haven’t shown where women are getting comfort (and I would add protection)- IRL they are getting them from beta males. Even RPW have always said higher betas are the best husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 01:42 AM
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Hahah- when on PPD I can never tell. The people here break my sarcasm radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 11:55 PM
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It seems to be getting worse... sigh, PPD. I wish I could quit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 09:08 PM
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I love how Sid is totally based on the shitty kid/older, shittier brother of a shitty kid we all know. Everyone hates him in childhood and pities him as an adult and PPD is like “IS THIS CHAD?!?”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 08:56 PM
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None.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 08:50 PM
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By that scale, compatibility isn’t vague at all. It’s just being compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:31 PM
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When? How? What are the limits? Can one ever not want sex with this person? Is any lack of desire based on logistics proof of absence of desire? How intense is that desire? Does lack of intensity mean it is lacking in totality? Does any amount of desire count? See? Vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:24 PM
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That makes no sense. Stop lecturing me on my preferences. It’s a waste of time and hardly honest debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 03:21 PM
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Of course it is. It clearly means different things depending on who is discussing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 03:20 PM
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No. It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 06:09 AM
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So as long as a woman is willing to do more than hug- she can go home with a guy? Do you imagine women are going home with men to not do more than hug?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:53 AM
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.... says who? And are you’d saying that women who go home with men are only consenting to making out? Where is the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:51 AM
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Hahahahha. 😂☠️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:50 AM
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Not always. We sometimes just make out. But still- I never had sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:49 AM
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I went home with plenty of dudes and didn’t have sex. We’d make out or fool around. It was a nonissue. I am sure they would have rather gotten the play they did than nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 01:31 AM
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But it is what’s happening here. It’s literally what the top level comment is saying is happening. But you handwave it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:39 AM
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No. I am not talking about choreplay. I think that’s a weird manosphere strawman. I am saying when a woman specifically says “we can have sex sooner if you load the dishwasher” that is what she means. I am saying NOT loading the dishwasher can mean no sex that night. Not that loading a dishwasher will turn on a frigid wife. Again: This is the basic misunderstanding- women are saying “chores get in the way of desire and sex. If you help me, we will have removed barriers to sex.” And men hear, “do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 12:12 AM
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Not true- the new study found that men who did more than half of the housework fucked less. Couples with equal splits were having more sex than anyone. No I'm saying girlfriends who work overtime ,study and go on the gym have more sex than working mothers. I think you’re vastly overestimating the hours/mental load gf’s are carrying and underestimating what mothers/wives are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:50 PM
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The earlier data was likely based on older people. My mom may not like my dad cleaning the bathroom- I expect my husband to help with things. Of course it matters. If you don’t have kids, you just have less to do. Same with working less hours. I'm saying that these women are tired (probably more than the women that complain) and still manage to have sex frequently. Let’s walk this back. You’re saying girlfriends who do not live with their boyfriends, who do not have children with their boyfriend…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:23 PM
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No ,which is why I'm saying that choreplay and how tired she is ,doesn't really matter.Its desire that matters. Of course it matters. If you don’t have kids, you just have less to do. Same with working less hours. If you are living separately- you can hide your hoard or dedicate a specific day apart a week to get life things done. This is the basic misunderstanding- women are saying “chores get in the way of desire and sex. If you help me, we will have removed barriers to sex.” And men hear, “do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:06 PM
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Hahahah- sure dude. You have deeply slighted by my accurate assessment that you do not know how married women feel. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 10:17 PM
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Why do you feel like you are an authority on what this woman or married women feel? You have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:50 PM
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1992-1994 vs 2006. There were absolutely cultural shifts in this time. Also- this means an updated study could show an even stronger link between men being big boys and getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:33 PM
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The age of that study debunks itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:30 PM
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I want you think really hard about the difference in the behaviors described in that article and what I am describing. Try.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:29 PM
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🙄🙄🙄 And I am just supposed to believe some random dude online rather than all of my experience and a study? What a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:27 PM
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Do they live with those bf’s? Do they have children with them? Are both of them at the height of their career demands? Is she not tired of his shit? All I can tell you is that couples who share housework have more sex and that I see how some husbands act. They are am additional kid. I do not care how hot you are if I am running in circles while you play on your phone- I will be both tired and annoyed at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:25 PM
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I love when single men lecture me on marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:20 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:13 PM
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I think there are a number of options at play here: 1) wife isn’t attracted to husband, she creates excuses 2) wife is attracted to husband but keeping life running cuts into their time together 3) wife was attracted but husband is chronically unhelpful which leads to resentment and libido killer Manosphereans ONLY recognize #1 even when a woman is literally saying “we could have sex faster if you split these chores with me.” She is literally talking about speed to sex, not whether or not it wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 09:12 PM
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Or she just wants to finish the chores at 8:30 rather than 9. You’re assuming it’s attraction and not logistics. In your opinion, is it ever possible for a woman to actually be physically tired?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:55 PM
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But do you see how she is literally giving you logistics and you’re calling it choreplay? How does: Know what would get him laid faster than anything? If he elected to load the dish washer instead of watching TV while I put the kids to bed. Indicate a lack of desire? She’s literally saying here’s a to do list, if he did half we’d be done twice as fast. This is a common disconnect I see on PPD. Women are talking logistics and men conflate it with desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:40 PM
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Read some historical diaries of people who were in arranged marriages. It’s illuminating. My in laws were basically in an arranged marriage- as much as you can be in rural, WASP-land. They aren’t passionately in love like my parents but they are very happy and are approaching their 40th anniversary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:37 PM
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She’s giving you a logistical reason it does work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:28 PM
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.... both partners being compassionate to each other. I don’t care if it’s vague so is “sexual desire.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:27 PM
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Looking at the definition of “integral”: necessary to make a whole complete; essential or fundamental. I don’t think so- not universally. It’s certainly advantageous and now it’s definitely expected in our society but I do think 2 people can be good partners and grow to love each other deeply without that first spark.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:26 PM
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Compatibility and compassion are tied.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:21 PM
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It’s important but not the most important element. TRP way over prioritizes it because TRP is simply male projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:13 PM
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I like tall men. I will say- this was VERY different before OLD took over. When I was growing up “tall” was the nice girl answer when someone asked you what kind of boys you liked. It was non-sexual and unchanging. People gain weight, get old, lose their hair, he will always be tall. It was the same thing as guys saying “Pretty eyes” or “nice smile” in regards to what they like in girls. Now, women use height to imagine how a man will make them feel when looking at pictures and a flat profile on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:25 PM
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Are you suggesting people tell women having sex with attractive men is a good idea like we tell men paying for the whole date is a good idea? YES. Good god- there are multiple threads a week here about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:13 PM
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Depends on the man. I will say reading PPD has given me insight into the things I hear other women complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:50 PM
2

sex before commitment, no matter how you rationalize it, is not going to increase your chances. Except many, many people do not say this. They say you MUST have sex early. If you wait longer than 3 dates even 1- it’s bad. This is a regular RP chant. You cannot deny that in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:47 PM
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So you have effectively said nothing? Both men and women with shitty dating strategies love complaining. Groundbreaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:39 PM
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Women having sex with/dating attractive men is rational too. They want to spend time with them and hope they’ll end up in an LTR. Why would women “love” failing while men don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:24 PM
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CMV: Men love paying for dates with women who won’t have sex with them. It's not rational. Cause people are irrational. There is nothing more to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:11 PM
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Why would women “love” this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 04:56 PM
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I started dating my husband at 21. I am 35 now. I believe we have grown together and not apart. We spend time together and prioritize having fun. We have inside jokes and rituals- I call this a “summer camp of 2.” We make things together. We have shared goals that we both work towards. We assume the other wants the best for us. We don’t really bicker- we both tend to want to find common ground than fight if conflicts come up. We have friends who support our relationship and our social circle is …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 04:41 PM
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The amount of fiction in this comment is staggering. You’re describing divorce not marriage and you’re not describing divorce accurately either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 03:31 PM
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The OP specifically asks what men should do. Also women outearn their husbands in 38% of marriages so it is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 03:29 PM
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Husband ended up calmly de-escalating a situation while protecting a bunch of people outside a show we were at. A girl tapped my arm and asked, “Is that yours???” Higher betas ftw.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 08:07 AM
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Those are the stats. Google is free.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 07:17 AM
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Confession: I used to get paid to “appear” at clubs- long story but I did some very popular shows in my 20’s and then had promoter friends. We were always in a private VIP section with free bottle service and I hated every minute of it. I would see the lines of people waiting to get in and be like “WHHHHYYYY??”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:29 AM
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Why would anyone go to a club??? Blech.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 03:43 AM
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This is hardly “women only marry upwards”... Women felt it was more important that their partner made at least as much money as they did (46% versus 24% of men) and had a successful career (61% versus 33% of men) So a minority of women 46% wanted a partner who had outearned them? I am kinda shocked only 61% wanted him to have successful career... success doesn’t mean money. My husband is successful but works in a not too lucrative industry- I am still proud of him. And again, I do not care about…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 12:27 AM
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You’ll have to provide stats. Women do not “only marry upwards” if 38% of them outearn their husbands. I have seen stats where single women say they want to marry someone who outearns them but that doesn’t carry much weight when looking at actual behaviors. Women are adapting to the new world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 12:15 AM
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wHaT dO yOu MeAn TRP oNlY wOrKs On SoMe TyPeS oF gIrLs?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:11 PM
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Well- if you were a dude larping as a girl online, you wouldn’t pretend to be an uggo, would you???
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 10:58 PM
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Then watch what they do. 38% of marriages have the woman as the higher earning partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:44 PM
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Man devoid of empathy tells woman how women feel. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:01 PM
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Again- based on what? You’re making up fan fiction about not just women’s actions but their internal motivations. No studies. Nothing. retarded There is literally no reason for you to repeatedly use this word. Quit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:58 PM
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Based on what? You’re making a lot of claims and assumptions about women’s internal motivations here. Additionally- the idea that these women are “gambling” means they are open to him not earning more. They know it’s an option and are taking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:48 PM
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You’re literally just describing women being open to marrying men they out-earn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:44 PM
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“Shirtgate” is not a study... data is what it is. I cannot speak to rural life- I am just saying that I work and so does my husband. If he’s cooking for a dinner party you might not see all the prep/cleaning I did leading up to it and all the cleaning after- wives tend to do the more thankless housekeeping IME.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:40 PM
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Or until the Recession unwinds the damage done to men and they actually have a choice that doesn't involving them gambling on the earnings of a minority pool of men Can you clarify what you mean by gambling? Your previous usage doesn’t seem to align here. There's no other reason to get married that early if you're a university-educated guy with decent-to-good prospects, especially when you're older and you can just use your money to buy the interest of younger women. They are not getting married…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:26 PM
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... I think that is a really weird way to think of studies. I also think there is a lot of labor that guests may not see or notice (especially ones who have your purported views) that wives contribute. Or your work friends are married to outlier mega bitches. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:22 PM
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As a reminder this OP was specifically asking what men should do. So your claim is that women are less likely than men to want to engage in a marriage where the woman is the higher earner. You hold this despite the continued increases of women earning more in marriages every year and will not change that stance until that 38% is 50% or 51%? What evidence do you have that 22-24 year olds are gambling? You have offered no evidence whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:01 PM
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I understand. I am saying they may not be accurately representing their contribution given what we know about men assessing their input.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:43 PM
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I would actually say it's women who are less open to marrying men who make less money than them. Was your original claim. Now you’re saying: She's gambling on his career and because feminism has destroyed men's earning power, most women lose the gamble, but they're also not going to get anything better. Are they open to it or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:34 PM
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It seems you have shifted the goalposts pretty hard...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:31 PM
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Women don’t really worry about this until 30 at least. So they are panicking at 22-24 and settling for lower earning men?The stats just don’t align with your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:26 PM
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So it seems like either this is an agreement this couple has OR you’re not seeing the actual division of labor? Men tend to overestimate their contributions at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:22 PM
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Women can always choose not to marry. Also the average age of marriage + length of courtship + engagement has people pairing off at 22-24. This isn’t women having “no choice” due to advanced age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:14 PM
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Given the momentum- I would say it’s the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:06 PM
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Of course they have a choice- women have more choice than ever before. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:05 PM
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It’s not a small percentage. We’re talking 38% of married women out-earning their husbands. The change to American economy is obviously a factor BUT it’s becoming more common in all socioeconomic groups with varying degrees of satisfaction (obviously more money= higher satisfaction).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:00 PM
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What demographic are you talking about and how are you witnessing their dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:59 PM
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I am not going to discuss the same point with you over multiple threads. I already replied to you on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:56 PM
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... but women are more open to marrying men who make less as evidenced by the increased % of women doing so each year. Change is always going to start with smaller groups and fan outward. That’s the way of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:55 PM
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That’s not been my experience. Ask any woman who is okay out-earning her husband and the usual reasons she’ll say she’s unbothered is because he doesn’t care. Also- women who outearn their husbands tend to do more housework and it’s hypothesized that they are desperately trying not to emasculate him. Hardly seems in line with your thinking...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:45 PM
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I didn’t say many men weren’t already doing it. I will say by the hollering on PPD- some men seem to struggle with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:42 PM
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He’ll have to help with homemaking and parenting if his female partner works. He’ll also have to navigate the new world of co-owning financial planning rather than making unilateral decisions as the man of the house as has been the case for previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:34 PM
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The family unit hasn’t been destroyed by feminism. It’s been changed. What should men do? Be open to marrying someone who makes or will make more/equal money than you and what type of partner you’ll need to be in that structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 06:25 PM
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I meant this comment thread and the OP you made. No dick can compete with a vibrator, just like no girl can compare to the standards set in porn. The issue here is that BOTH these things are resolved by men understanding that porn is fantasy. Telling them so 1) more truthful and 2) more likely effective than telling them to give up porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:25 PM
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... this one???
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:18 PM
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You have literally made an OP and a thread about it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:14 PM
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So tell them they’re wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:09 PM
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I don’t think it’s that bad unless you are using compulsively OR cannot separate reality from fantasy. Men I know would see a woman with a giant dildo in a porn and know that’s not her preferred masturbatory aid...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 04:03 PM
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That sounds like another hit against men watching porn not women masturbating though...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:55 PM
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So... male insecurity projected onto women who likely aren’t even using giant dildos. Got it....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:51 PM
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HA! Good call.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:50 PM
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It does improve “bad boys” (given the manosphere definition of bad boy which is just normal dudes being young.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:49 PM
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What men are finding that???
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:49 PM
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That’s not how women masturbate though... IIRC there was even a study. Look at the best selling sex toys for women- they aren’t dicks for insertion. They are vibrators for external stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:44 PM
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Per usual- it’s male projection (and young male projection at that). They imagine that losing attention from the opposite sex is the worst possible scenario. They never guess that it may be a positive for women...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:20 PM
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I wish I spent my 2 weeks off like this... instead I have packed it into the last 2 days!! Mhmm container store visit could be in my future though...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:35 AM
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MY VAGINA IS A SOVEREIGN NATION!! ✊🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 02:34 AM
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“Learning” 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:46 AM
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I feel like so many people on this sub have no concept of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:26 AM
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You have to ask yourself what men mean by “want”- do they wanna fuck these girls? Plate them? Date them? LTR? Marry. Even then. Watch what they say not what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:19 AM
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I just spent 3 hours deep cleaning the kitchen. Reorganized, scrubbed the cabinets, deep cleaned all the appliances and gadgets. Feels good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 12:49 AM
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I only screw the men I want to screw- I do not have to screw anyone. If it benefits your material situation to screw a man doesn’t that make the man more attractive? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 12:47 AM
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I have a pretty good gym in my building but I live in fitness influencer land so it’s usually empty (my neighbors do the more insta-friendly equinox or hiking workouts). When I do have company- it’s 50:50. Women tend to do body weight and cardio and men do tend to do weights. There is one guy who does weird shirtless dancing to a speaker he brings in. Not a fan of that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:03 PM
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Yay!! Just a quick tip: my mom had a full hysterectomy and it’s totally optional but my parents opted to get a live in nurse for recovery. She is bad at letting people take care of her (like someone else I know...) and having a person who was dedicated to her care helped her stay off her feet!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 08:57 PM
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That’s a great idea!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 08:03 PM
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2nd one but I’d probably just be celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:41 PM
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I am saying being a woman in your 30’s is better- you’re clearly focused on her utility to (some) men. Not the same thing. Also “mental health” 🙄- women aren’t saner in their 20’s than 30’s. They may be getting diagnosed/treated but they aren’t more mentally healthy that’s just inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 07:40 PM
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Exactly. It’s not ChadS- it’s Chad. Only ONE Chad is creating all the single mothers. Duhhh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:26 AM
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Cool story. I was seconding the definition of BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 02:40 AM
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BPer seconding this definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:48 AM
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The last time I made a Q4W they got deleted for circlejerking! I am avoiding it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:44 AM
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Well I don’t think those men identify as “liking younger women”- they are just dating within their age groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 01:03 AM
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😬🤐
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:59 AM
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If someone had asked me in my 20’s if I wanted to stay there forever- I would have said yes too. But being in my 30’s- I see how much of my 20’s were spent setting up the life I am enjoying now. I often feel stronger in my 30’s than in my 20’s- because I take better care of myself. 🤷🏼‍♀️ And mentally- I have better relationships, less drama, firmer boundaries etc. I dunno- I hope you feel this way in 10 years too!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:29 AM
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Guys who actually want marriage/family and are okay settling down are much more likely to do this with a woman their own age because they are not as youth driven or even appearence driven and are looking for more of a life partner. I think these men mostly settle down in their 20’s though...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:19 AM
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This feels like a riddle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:04 AM
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Thanks! It is nice to have spent my younger years well- getting married, investing my time in a good career and fulfilling artistic pursuits and solid relationships. It would be so sad to have been stupid and now be clinging to youth when age is inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 12:01 AM
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Same dude. Good luck being “that guy”!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:54 PM
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QQ: Given the age of the women here: would any of you return to your 20’s? I wouldn’t trade my current situation/life/mindset for perky tits if you paid me... but maybe there are women longing for their 20’s I am just missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:53 PM
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Everything gets better for women in our 30’s. Including “losing” the attention of men who say things like “glorious 20’s”!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:50 PM
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“glorious 20’s” 😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:42 PM
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So? I also clearly say I have younger friends. What is so scary about saying: “younger people usually hold me to lower standards and accept my immaturity.” This is true of all genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:39 PM
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Actually, 30-35 year old dudes just find younger women easier to interact with. No... a lot of 30-35 year olds find younger people ANNOYING and yes this includes men. I wish men would be honest “younger people usually hold me to lower standards and accept my immaturity.” That’s fine. I have groups of younger friends- totally different vibe than my age mates. It’s only concerning when you cannot interact with people your own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 11:05 PM
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Yeah- I work from home/travel for work. No one questions me for fucking around on my phone constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 09:05 PM
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Never trust any man who says ALL his exes were crazy. That’s dude for “I am an asshole.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:07 PM
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Hooray! So glad to hear he’s doing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:13 AM
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And it’s a good thing this OP isn’t compensating for that other (totally not him) poster’s previous comments in any way!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:23 AM
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HOW HAWT!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:01 AM
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Totally unrelated note: remember when that one guy drunkenly posted about how deeply unhappy he really was and how he always pretended to be happy but it was all fake? Remember how that same guy also posted about his wife never orgasming? It’s a good thing this is a different poster or it would be a really bad look for this OP. PHHHEEEWWWW.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:31 AM
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Shut up, fatty! (Am I doing it right?!?)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:29 AM
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Or you can wake up from your nightmare and realize that 50% stat is outdated and incorrectly applied and that your 77% stat is absolutely wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:42 AM
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I am creep and love sleeping with my husband. I wake up a lot and just seeing him makes me feel less middle of the night crazy. Yes- I have pictures of him sleeping on my phone. But this is a bit much even for me. When I travel for work, we will watch movies together over the phone/video (hit go at the same time) and sometimes fall asleep talking when I am jet lagged. I wouldn’t be into this...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 11:00 PM
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I will tell you a truth RPers will not: I cannot explain discernment of character in a Reddit comment. I don’t think tradthots are the answer and I, personally, don’t trust anyone who says they are loyal or honest. I trust people who show me who they are. I acknowledge red flags. When I was young and figuring things out, questioned why, when I got hurt, I didn’t see the warning signs. It was usually because I ignored them. I got feedback from people I trusted. I empathize with the fact that this…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 10:51 PM
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NO YOU. ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 10:40 PM
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No. I am saying your comment: RPers: don’t select for character. Women: Lets all have garbage for character. Also RPers: all women are garbage. Makes no sense. Clarify if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 10:06 PM
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And this is another example of someone with no clue of what discernment means pretending it’s impossible. I get that TRP recommends you next women. DUH. What it doesn’t do is explain what things are actually worthy of nexting someone- who to pursue etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 09:01 PM
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Common sense would seem amazing to people rolling in shit, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:51 PM
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Sounds like a good rationalization to roll in shit and bitch about flies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:48 PM
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Where am I complaining about flies?? I am saying there doesn’t have to be flies. Avoid shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:31 PM
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If you wanna roll around in shit, don’t complain about flies. This whole sub is FILLED with men bitching about flies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:30 PM
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RPers: don’t select for character. Also RPers: all women are garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:27 PM
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“Skills” 🙄 Having the ability to spend time with people who are actually worth your time takes discernment, patience and self control. Men (and women) who repeatedly choose partners who treat them poorly are choosing them for a reason. They are lazy or scared or self loathing. Believing all women are garbage absolves RPers of the hard work of rejecting women who act like idiots. When they were BP’d this would have looked like being so conflict averse they didn’t set boundaries. I don’t give a fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:26 PM
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Let’s stop pretending that RPers don’t select for traits and then get mad about those traits. I understand you’re saying they aren’t prioritizing feelings but they sure have a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 08:21 PM
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“Don’t select for individuals for interpersonal relationships” is completely insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:58 PM
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is this supposed to make AWALT seem less ridiculous?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:25 PM
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Wut??? Me: make healthy choices to live a long life You: don’t you think we all thought McDonald’s was healthy?!? Me: thinking something is healthy is not the same thing as it being healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:23 PM
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That’s literally what I was doing. Clarify if you want because it looks like you’re saying RP men don’t select for character therefore women decide to be garbage therefore RPers think all women are garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:20 PM
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Thinking you have something and actually selecting for it are different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:18 PM
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Your original reply makes zero sense. I was trying to make a guess at your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:16 PM
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Are you trying to say: RPers: don’t select for character. FDS: Lets all have garbage for character. Also RPers: all women are garbage. Because that’s still a stupid move for RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:01 PM
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Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:59 PM
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Can you bitch about FDS to someone else? This is totally irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:59 PM
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It’s fun that you can make a distinction without difference AND shit on women, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:56 PM
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RPers: don’t select for character. Also RPers: all women are garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 05:55 PM
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It’s not great but he has dabbled in that “meth hot” look so he can lean into that? If it gets too intense, he has enough money for good hair plugs. He’ll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:30 PM
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It only works if the guy is super masculine; being bald removes any opportunity for pretty boy looks. Prince William does not pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:49 PM
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Met when I was 18, started dating at 21, married at 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 02:11 AM
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Cool. You also did a great job showing HOW it’s bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:56 PM
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And I would expect seeing their own ridiculousness mirrored in FDS to upset RPers... we can both be shocked together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:53 PM
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It’s not a PM- it’s a public observation. You read it. Do you need me to say it to you? Okay here: see how stupid AWALT sounds?!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:46 PM
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Who cares? I am just pointing out that is the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:43 PM
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“I only date hot women because all women are bad anyway.” That’s... that’s basically AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:33 PM
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What would “supporting women in a meaningful way” look like? There were players and users 10-15 years ago too. Women have always had to avoid them. I am a real life example and sounding board to my nieces. If they came to me upset because they believed the quote you include above I would remind them that the kid who wrote it and the kids who write things like it are lying. I would also encourage them to date inside their social circles where cheating and lying are still shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:30 PM
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Do you know what cause and effect is?? There is a matriarchy because men are imprisoned or benefits are lower for those in relationships. Poverty/bad policy caused those matriarchies not vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:08 PM
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Interesting. We have always been a donor state but I guess it says a lot about the tax cuts given out by this administration. We still have a huge number of giant companies and agricultural output. The idea that California takes more than it gets and the US would be better without it is bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:06 PM
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I wish young women wouldn’t base their dating plans in reaction to revenge fantasies written by men whose dicks are in as mint condition as their action figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:04 PM
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Gonna need a source for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:53 PM
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It actually affirms my choice to live here. If PPD hates it- I AM RIGHT TO LIKE IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:52 PM
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Sure, Jan.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:48 PM
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You’re confusing cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:45 PM
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Are you forgetting how much money California pours into the rest of the US? You’re going to gamble with your cash cow??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 05:43 PM
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Open your eyes. This isn’t locking a door, it’s boarding the door up. Fun fact: the Berlin Wall was originally put up to keep the bad guys out. Guess how that ended?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 07:01 AM
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Immigration has always been a part of the American economy and culture. The right capitalizes on no one understanding history to rewrite it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 06:30 AM
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Exactly. You might enjoy this piece. I really found the stats eye opening! https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-nationalists-delusion/546356/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 06:27 AM
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He inspires nationalism, not national security. He has far more issues than being a good husband but it’s blatantly false to pretend he’s some traditional role model. He’s an ignorant piece of shit supported by ignorant pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 06:25 AM
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Yeah the guy who has been married 3x, cheats constantly and clearly wants to fuck his daughter inspires men to behave “traditionally.” White people voted for Trump because they are racist and he says all the shit they think aloud.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 06:13 AM
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How annoying is it to lock all the purge posts? I still get so many replies on purge posts from October... totally get not doing it if it’s manual!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 06:25 PM
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And I love and respect you 💙💙
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 07:02 AM
18

“WOMEN AREN’T FUNNY.” - men who cannot parse satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 05:55 AM
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You know what IS funny? They made you a mod solely because they desperately needed a RP dude. And what do we call that? Affirmative action.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:59 AM
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And YOU! Lying about not just being married but having KIDS!!! Like what even? Who could believe such an insane story?? Do you think we’re all idiots? Anyway, imma go buy a t-shirt from GLO.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:56 AM
2

You have given me no choice but to dox you. I hackered this from your iPod.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:54 AM
2

And YOU always lying about cats and trains. How can you LIVE with yourself?!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:48 AM
14

A common issue amongst submarine magicians. You just gotta hold frame, bro. Water is the ocean’s shit test!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 03:47 AM
1

They’d have to make the woman the lead and you guys hate that shit, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 02:22 AM
14

See how the yellow man’s eyes roll upwards, holding back tears. Haunted by his past but, mostly, his future.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 02:06 AM
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[Werner Herzog Voice] Here we see an emotionally stunted idiot. See how he impotently longs for the young woman who first touched his sad pee pee on the night known as “prom.” Isn’t his sadness palpable even to strangers on Reddit? Heartbreakingly beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:46 AM
3

How my jaw unhinges. My scaly green skin. Which one is which? You decide. 🦎🐍🦖💚💚💚
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:18 AM
3

GASP. If you see me tonight our code will be “Happy New Year”...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 01:16 AM
3

I am always afraid you’re one of my IRL friends and then I remember you live across the pond.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:56 AM
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Nah. I am blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:55 AM
4

Maybe he can’t reach it. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:54 AM
2

What do you think “daddy” means, you fucking breeder?????
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 11:02 PM
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No. It’s about the size and penchant for dick. Don’t lecture me on gay culture. I’ll shove Judy Garland up your ass and sound you with one of Cher’s wigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 09:29 PM
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It means they take big dicks and like doing things to dicks/having dicks do things to them rather than having things done to their dick. I bet gays and big dicks are equally new territory for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 09:08 PM
3

FAT ANIMALS ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 09:06 PM
12

I am an elder twink daddy who goes to Palm Springs to do drugs multiple times a year. I am FINE.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 08:03 PM
10

I can cook but I only do it for Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 07:23 PM
5

The straights are not okay...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 07:16 PM
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I’d be a flaming fucking gay power bottom. Joke’s on you. THIS GOT GILDED?? THANK YOU FOR MY CONTINUED AND AMPLIFIED SMUGNESS, KIND STRANGER.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 06:59 PM
1

Reported for insulting 8 year old boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 05:33 PM
1

M=78, F=124, Female assigned at birth, Gender=F, Pill= Blue The questions are a bit cringe... you can tell it was written in the 70’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 05:10 PM
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Good luck trying to tame the little ENFP on making grand gestures when she has heart eyes for a boy! (The trick is to make sure it’s never expected. You’re a helpful wood sprite not a maid.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 03:06 AM
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You’re being kind. I think it’s probably more that they imagine hot plates totally clean Chad’s house and LARP about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:43 AM
2

Sounds incredibly fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:36 AM
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I 100% cleaned my then bf’s/now husband’s apartment before we lived together. I spent a lot of time there- no boys allowed over night at the sorority so it was his place all the time. He let me crash there one weekend when he was out of town so I deep cleaned the place while he was gone and then kept it up. It also meant my home away from home was not disgusting. But remember- I am a harpy bitch and my husband and I are totally going to get divorced tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 02:21 AM
3

This circumstance? No. Is he her boss or her teacher or someone offering a job to her? Will her rejecting him result in her losing something? If so, consent gets way trickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:33 AM
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Wow- it took you a bit to hamster that up, huh? Either way. It doesn’t matter. The question was about him telling me he is going to hit on another girl NOT him slumping away sadly. It’s nice to see yourself in stories though, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:12 AM
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It is clear you are looking for any way that “no” can become yes AND desperately trying to strawman “no means no.” When women say “no means no” they are discussing the moment when sex (or sexual activity) would be consented to (or not). So you are grasping at straws for a situation that will like never happen in a different context than what is being discussed (i.e. woman rejects you and then you walk away and she says “wait actually yes!”) Imagine you have a child you’re handing over to a caret…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:05 AM
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No you didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:26 PM
1

Your question: is it coercion... My original answer: No. But also, if you’re gonna fuck some other girl, then just do it. If you try to pull this, I will tell you go ahead and then make sure she knows she’s second choice. Nicely of course. Sisterhood and all that. ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:25 PM
1

I already answered this stupid question in the OP you posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:17 PM
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I know you never described it. Atlas did. You two are describing two very different things and then you’re like “HUR DUR DIS WHAT MEANT.” Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:15 PM
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It’s that fucking Russian guy. He keeps asking when “no” means “maybe.” And I agree with you on LMR- the issue is I do not trust the idiot men here to get the delicate balance. Side note: I never would have agreed with you that one should not debate this nuanced stuff in your second language but you are right it’s so rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:09 PM
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This is such a bullshit, pathetic backpedal. In your OP today when you were describing a woman saying “no” in public where you can gesture to another woman you meant that you were in the middle of hot and heavy making out and the girl says something like "we shouldnt be doing this", Or your hand going down her pants while still making out with you. And every time today when you said “no” you actually meant her not saying no. It seems like the only person saying “no” and meaning “maybe” is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:06 PM
2

I am funny. Thanks for the last word.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:49 PM
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I didn’t say anything about LMR? I am replying to a dude who is talking about “no” compulsively NOT LMR. He wants a special zone where no means maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:48 PM
2

Ironic that you’re the one constantly fucking posting about “no means no.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:46 PM
2

I think you replied to the wrong person?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:44 PM
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No. Your “image” has nothing to do with me being annoyed at your constant “BUT WHAT IF SHE SAYS NO LIKE THIS?” posting. Quit spamming up the sub with stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:43 PM
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I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:39 PM
2

Go badger Slutvana to spend time with you. This is dumb and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:39 PM
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No? I paired off young with a really wonderful man. I know I was very lucky in a lot of ways but I also think I made some good choices (emboldened by my good luck no doubt).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:38 PM
2

I don’t give a fuck about Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:35 PM
5

And you sound tone deaf and socially stunted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:34 PM
2

You claim to have the Russia as this zone. WTF are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:33 PM
3

“I CAN SHOW IN PERSON WHAT ‘FLIRTY NO’ MEANS.” Totally not creepy cool chill guys all over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:29 PM
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I am pretty sure I would still think it’s fucking gross. Thank god we’ll never know!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:28 PM
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flirty no 🤢🤮
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:27 PM
3

Yeah- Russia NEVER meddles with the US 🙄🙄🙄 It’s exactly what you describe. That you don’t like how it sounds parroted back to you isn’t my issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:22 PM
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Nah- I’ll keep blaming rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:18 PM
3

Second, on a global scale it's called Russia. Then drink your vodka and leave us alone. But then you are okay with making men risk to be imprisoned. I find that an attitude of an asshole. What a coincidence! I think “maybe this lady saying ‘no’ actually means ‘maybe’ so I should probably hound her until I convince her to let me stick my dick in her” is an attitude of an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 10:00 PM
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WOW A ZONE WHERE NO MEANS YES AND MEN ARE FREED FROM CHILD SUPPORT?! YIPPEE MISTER! If women want to play there games they can say no and hope for a man who thinks no means yes. There are plenty of them. Happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:54 PM
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Hey- here’s a fun idea. Get a mirror and then whisper/scream the following at yourself for a few hours: “WHY DO YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH SOMEONE WHO IS TELLING YOU ‘NO’ SO BADLY?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:44 PM
2

Yes that is totally what the OP would be about. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:38 PM
2

Girl me too. 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:32 PM
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He’s asking if telling a woman he is going to hit on another woman is a viable (non-coercive) way to get a woman to change “no” to “yes.” I am suggesting he simply walk away and hit on the other girl. But also, if you’re gonna fuck some other girl, then just do it. And not threaten me with it: If you try to pull this, I will tell you go ahead and then make sure she knows she’s second choice. “This” equals him saying “if you don’t want me, I’ll go hit on that girl.” which is the fucking title of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:31 PM
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The OP is literally saying he is threatening to go hook up with another girl as a tactic to have sex with the girl he is currently talking to. He’s not depressed. This is either projection or an outright lie. Either way: GROSS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:15 PM
1

This warrants an OP to be honest...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:58 PM
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I was 18 and Catholic. I assumed everyone would think less of me. I got away. That was enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:41 PM
3

Ah yes that classic female trait of not understanding coded language and clannish behavior!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:55 PM
3

... I feel like you’re kinda not up to speed on the threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:53 PM
3

Shhhhh... they get so mad when we bring that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:45 PM
4

Ugh. Jesus. I hope she’s doing better now!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:44 PM
2

These threads have been about married life though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:35 PM
3

How are women out here trading sex for chores? My husband thinks sex is something he does for me. if I tried to get him to vacuum for sex he’d laugh at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:31 PM
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Thank you. I am sorry you had that experience too. Luckily he was drunk as hell too and didn’t get further than grabbing at and scaring me. I will never understand the mindset of seeing sleeping girl and being like “Ah yes! A place for my dick!” I have to wonder if the men we literally ran from learned anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:25 PM
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Yeah... I think the issue is that it’s best to be as clear as possible and then assume people with emotional intelligence can navigate the grey areas. Those that can’t, can’t. Sorry- it can’t be taught. I literally just typed out an example of grey areas but am not going to post it because I fear PPD men will apply my standards with my husband of nearly a decade to their ONS....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:14 PM
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I have expressed uncertainty or worry that he’d think less of me. I have also expressed more internal conflict about my actions to make him feel desired. But I have never said “no” or “stop” when I did not mean exactly that. I have confirmed safe words before but never had to use them. I have woken up on a friend’s couch with someone on top of me. I was passed out so I couldn’t say “no.” I physically fought him off and locked myself in a bathroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:07 PM
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Thank you for the run down on how to flirt. Reread your OP and see how you actually wrote it. You should not make assumptions about me before getting me to know better. I never use "sum fuk?" or anything like that. Guy who doesn’t get I laugh at the weird dude conducting the “sum fuk?” survey. is a joke gets mad when I do not project unwritten emotional intelligence onto him. Must be PPD!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:37 PM
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If you ask if I will have sex with you, I say no and you walk over to that other woman and start talking? I laugh at the weird dude conducting the “sum fuk?” survey. The only way this works is if 1) you haven’t explicitly asked for sex, 2) I am enjoying our convo and then 3) that woman comes up and starts talking to you. But even then it’s not taking me from a no to yes. It’s just a way of you interacting with this woman isn’t a hard pass from me. What do you “false accusing” means?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:21 PM
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Women literally hug and cry because they make best friends in line at the bathroom, drunk. They cross rooms to chat with each other about their matte lipstick. It’s incredibly easy for one woman to approach another especially to warn her. Your lack of understanding this is not surprising but good lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:13 PM
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No. But also, if you’re gonna fuck some other girl, then just do it. If you try to pull this, I will tell you go ahead and then make sure she knows she’s second choice. Nicely of course. Sisterhood and all that. ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:03 PM
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In application to life, I was going keep doing things my way but at least this validates my experience is a norm? Better we should take the claims of never married/cohabbing people who yell about what they imagine marriage to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:32 PM
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A major exception IMHO are open marriages and swinger marriages, these tend to be able to be cornerstone AND liberating at the same time. I do not really consider swingers married. Why is everyone trying to “hack” marriage? Do it or don’t but this half pregnant thing is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:13 PM
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Entering the relationship before you’re fully formed is a feature not a bug. You grow together. You are less rigid and figure things out together. I am not saying a capstone marriage is worse- I just reject it’s better. Both have pros and cons. Also- look at the age people are pairing off in the populations most likely to get and stay married. They’re still doing it young. They just cohab and have long engagements before marrying in their later 20’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:58 AM
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Yeah- I just think people are interesting. Especially anyone with extreme viewpoints. I have been crazily following a bunch of Australian, minimalist raw foodists who were in a cult for years. And I have a strange obsession with very small time vloggers- there is a group of them always in a feud. I don’t watch that many TV shows- I like digging around for info and seeing bits come out on different platforms. It’s like an online puzzle 😂🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:53 AM
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Ah it sounded like you were giving an inclusive list. From what I noticed, these kinds of relationships usually happen when two experienced and accomplished people get together but give each other a lot of space. This is (partially) a capstone marriage- at least the two accomplished people getting together part. While this is common now, people can and do find each other young and grow together. It’s called a cornerstone marriage and it’s what’s been happening in the west for the last 150 or so …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:34 AM
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It’s rul weird that you didn’t include a 4th option where both partners are internally happy and enjoy their life together...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 08:11 AM
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I like my way better... imagine a looney toons set up. Very whimsical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:11 AM
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This is such a weird claim but I see it constantly. I was researching a parody song about PUA’s for a comedy show which lead me to ROK, which lead me to The Blue Pill which lead me here. I was married when I started this “debate.” What makes you think happy people don’t read click bait or fall down rabbit holes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:00 AM
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It’s either A) Aldovia or B) Genovia
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:52 AM
5

Like physically???
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:41 AM
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In my many years on PPD (sigh) it seems like there are a handful of loud people (usually dudes but I will totally grant there are also women- a definite surge since FDS’s creation) who do not believe happy relationships exist. This is sort of just the nature of the subject matter. 1) Misery loves company and 2) TRP has to paint relationships (ONS/STR/LTR) as totally within the man’s control while it utilizes “forbidden,” incendiary language. This is by design to attract men who are sad, hurt or …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:39 AM
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I dunno... he’s really unattractive... I LOVE that I am getting downvoted. Is no neck, bad glasses amongst us??? If you can hear me: give up the necklace, nerd!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:58 AM
2

How tall did you say he was? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:30 AM
2

My condolences!! I do NOT miss January-March in my favorite city!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:08 AM
2

Fair enough! I look forward to your report!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 03:05 AM
2

I was gonna do it after husband goes to his show 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:58 AM
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Look at the time stamp. And also look at the dialogues I have been having. There more than a few that said #1. Your men are wonderful bias is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:21 AM
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Yes. I am familiar with that study. RP stance is often that any woman (regardless of her own attractiveness) will have better sex with a male 7 vs a 5 or whatever stupid rating is given. IIRC, that study does not control for the attractiveness of the women. Likely, more attractive men are pairing off with more attractive women- thus it is more attractive couples have more satisfying sex. It’s not just “the hotter the guy, the hotter the sex.” Also note that the women were rating their partner’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:58 AM
2

I was raised Catholic- same difference!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:18 AM
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PRAISE BEZOS!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:13 AM
2

I am more of a walker for sure but gotta learn more about the trains!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:11 AM
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Been saying this for years. Sex quality is based on how hot their partner is. Women will put up with anything from a hot guy. Women get hung up on the one that got away and can’t ever move on. Women want to have fun and settle down with someone they love less because he is a better long term partner. Women leave men who are sick or weak. These are all male behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:07 AM
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That’s south of me but we walk down there all the time. LA is super fun to walk around (although you can wait for a full 10 min at crosswalk during rush hour- we were almost late yesterday to our movie due to traffic even though we walked!)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:05 AM
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Totally. With our weather, I don’t get why most people don’t take more advantage! In Chicago people would walk for miles in the frozen tundra!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 12:03 AM
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People in LA HATE walking. They’ll drive 2 blocks to a bar. It’s so confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 11:51 PM
2

Liking sex is a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:45 PM
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Sure. I am just saying at 30+ you will totally have sex every day (if not multiple times a day) on vacation. But life happens and most adults have a few days a week they don’t want to have sex. Saying you always have sex 1-2x/week often more and having someone say “NO MAN WOULD STAND FOR THIS!” sounds like the projection of an early 20 something. 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:44 PM
2

Speak for yourself 😂 but I had a pacifier until I was 5 and am sure I have some sort of oral fixation Freudian thing happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:29 PM
2

Eh- I physically enjoy giving BJ’s. I am sure it’s all wrapped up in the psychological elements but it still feels good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:25 PM
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Every thing I have read indicates that male libido also declines with age. At 20, I am sure most men want daily sex. 35? 45? Probably not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:21 PM
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I am thinking this is an age + experience thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:17 PM
5

You think all men want sex at least daily? I think this may be an age thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:49 PM
5

I thought I was going to get called a boomer for not including ass eating. Can’t win for losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:47 PM
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It’s really interesting that when I say “at least” 1-2, as a worst case scenario, men see that “always 1x a week”...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:41 PM
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I think realistically, many guys wouldn't be sexually compatible with #2. How so? And if they're high value guys they wouldn't just put up with it either. Because she “sometimes” says no to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:36 PM
3

It sounds like you’re talking about some mythical bogeywife...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:34 PM
5

Assigning a reasonable “rate” also requires that we take into account when and how the man is instigating. Some of the horror stories you hear about men constantly being shot down then reveal he’s trying to get up on her at the worst times. This takes some emotional intelligence from the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:30 PM
4

So effectively, you only care that she acts enthused.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:28 PM
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If she simply acted enthusiastic and kept her disinterest to herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:19 PM
2

Thank you for the thoughtful reply!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:15 PM
4

Second one - turning down sex frequently or routinely (frigid) I specifically said “sometimes.” Where are you getting frequently or routinely?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:14 PM
2

I am not comparing with “hidden” number 3? Sorry I don’t know what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:13 PM
1

Is this you answering #1?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:10 PM
2

Tbh both of these have elements in them that make me think they could be frigid or bitchy which for me are the big things I don’t ever want in a woman. Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 09:01 PM
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It’s Q4M. In the housework thread, men seemed to think more frequent sex is always better with no discussion of enthusiasm. I am directly asking the question to men. It’s the opposite of a gotcha. I am trying to understand the male PPD priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:57 PM
2

You always have sex at least 1-2/week (but often more).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:54 PM
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And he’s a regular poster here, soooo... it seemed in the housework thread that some male posters think more sex is always better with no consideration for quality or enthusiasm. I am directly asking to see if that’s the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:50 PM
2

What’s the gotcha?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:44 PM
3

The guy who commented after you literally picked #1...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:36 PM
4

I had to make an OP about this. I cannot fathom wanting worse sex more frequently. I know how my husband feels but maybe I am just thinking inside my bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:33 PM
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I guarantee the sex being had in egalitarian marriages today is quite different than the sex had in previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:03 PM
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Depends entirely on the circumstances. What type of messy shit is happening that the kids would know? Certainly no adult is telling them outright? I can certainly see a situation where my husband cheats, is an idiot and I find out and our relationship fundamentally changes. We are now simply cohabitating co-parents. Maybe therapy helps establish forgiveness and a more smooth day to day life. It’s definitely more stable than divorce for the kids. OR I find out and just put it in my Catholic box i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 07:13 PM
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Cause yeah its bullshit when I say some of these things and I know it. This was all I needed. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:24 PM
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There are plenty of women who paired off with age matched young who wouldn’t trade their memories with their partner for anything else. Being young together is priceless- your method robs both men and women of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:45 AM
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Why should those girls miss out on having the experiences of having an age matched partner? What are men supposed to do until they are at the +8 years age of their wives? Be celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:14 AM
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Ughhhhhhh.... I feel like I am expected to spend midnight at one specific place. Why are NYE’s in my 30’s the polar opposite of those in my 20’s???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 06:11 AM
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Sigh. We have been invited to 3 parties for NYE... I am closest friends with the host of the least fancy one. One of them is a really fancy one thrown by a French model/designer. I wanna see the people on his exclusive guest list and I really just enjoy him- he’s been so lovely and excited coming to our dinner parties BUT I don’t wanna ditch my friend. WHAT DO I DO PPD?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 05:30 AM
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Husband isn’t on social media. I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 03:42 AM
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35 30-40ish Yes, as I have aged, men I think are attractive have up as well (honestly- I have tunnel vision for husband so these are few and far between.) 25-40ish 3 years- my husband. He was a gruff but beloved dude in my college arts program. He’s tall and confident and has a giant dick 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 09:14 PM
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No? They could be a few years older (18 freshman in college vs 21 senior in college is v different in so far as access to sex), have different ideas of when they’ll have sex (as long as you two align, who cares?), they could have had more permissible parents, attended all girl/all boy school etc. There are so many logistical differences, league seems odd to assign as the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 07:31 PM
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Stop voting against their own financial interests. As I said, studies link this to economic not attraction issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:29 PM
1

OH SHIT. Good call.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 06:15 PM
2

Do you currently, or have you ever, worn a cape in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 08:05 AM
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I am sure that sounds very mysterious and impressive to you. Patterns of the UMC are as pervasive as any. The idea that they’ll so quickly be overwritten by the patterns of the MC/LC is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 07:55 AM
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I think you’re wrong. My guess is that the middle class and then the upper middle class will dwindle and maybe disappear but this “embedding” thing is just inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 07:23 AM
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IME, and statistically, the issues in lower classes are not impacting UMC...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 07:01 AM
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Yeah- I correct RPers on red pill theory all the time...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 04:06 AM
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It’s not a fixation. It’s that men here describe things that I have never experienced. I do see them happening and can look at the statistics to see that these things are happening in the lower classes. It’s not a value judgement but people get very mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 02:46 AM
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It’s a Q4M (for some reason) so obvs blue women can’t have top level replies. I am blue so is sublime.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 02:43 AM
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Yeah I guess that guy just needs to buck up- she wasn’t his, it was just his turn? Sigh. What is wrong with people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:50 AM
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WOMEN TALKING IS MALE OPPRESSION!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:48 AM
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At least it’s a refreshing change from the Q4W threads that have mostly male responses 🤷🏼‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/19 01:45 AM
2

Then why are you giving me stupid, ineffective advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:28 PM
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No. She’s a young, sweet girl. She can be feminine in text and boys will love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:18 PM
2

I could have! He is so fast at it and we all know the faster you are at bj’s the better they are!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 11:01 PM
2

Avoidants make us feel like our fears are rational. It’s tempting, I get it!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:42 PM
2

Breaking up with someone isn’t a punishment. It’s recognizing you’re not compatible. What you’re describing is like an alcoholic early in their recovery deciding they can’t date a heroine addict. Having the same issues don’t make you a good fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:40 PM
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I was anxious preoccupied, maybe am still a bit. The only thing for us is finding someone with a secure attachment style. They drag us over to secure after years of putting up with our need for pats. Or try it yourself with years of therapy but I much prefer my method of falling in love with someone who just laughs and hugs me when I get weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 09:35 PM
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Ah! Yeah then I would send a text that’s like, “Okay- I have a confession to make: I am baby in the cold! Looking the weather, I am trying to strike the right balance between warm and cute when we meet up- how bundled up should I get? Give it to me straight. I will go full North Pole if needed!” Being cold is girly thing- you can make this flirty. He’ll appreciate it if you’re not whining on the way to the coffee shop!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:35 PM
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Why do you need to know? Are you meeting out somewhere? Or trying to understand if you need to get a ride? Basically, it’s fine if the question is logistical. Weird otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:25 PM
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Not in the way you think. The bottom quarter of men will continue to be ignored, yes. This is sad but has been the case for most of history. Every study around this modern phenomenon points to economic issues not attraction issues. Regular women sleep with and date and marry regular men- that’s most men. Not the bottom 25%.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:15 PM
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It’s come to my attention that men believe “most men” = “men like me.” Rather than an “apex fallacy” you guys have a “rock bottom fallacy.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:03 PM
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He doesn’t just think abuse is funny- he thinks it’s arousing. I get why mods give Atlas 100,000 chances but this guy contributes nothing. I’d block him if it wasn’t so reassuring to see PPD wail on him in unison.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:00 PM
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Women do not think of incels, like, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 12:59 AM
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Instructions unclear. Just started flirting with weights and lifting waitresses in front of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 09:48 PM
2

Merry Christmas to you too!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 09:40 PM
2

No!!! His life is hell!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 09:30 PM
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Husband offered to make breakfast if I cleaned the kitchen first. I cleaned and then called my mom. I came out of the bedroom, he was sad on the couch and said, “can you make breakfast? I don’t feeeel good.” So I made breakfast. It’s not a sandwich but this is the real life hell that is being married to a feminist. We are so mean. Never do anything our husbands ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 09:11 PM
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Nah- I got the natural button nose! She is lovely and so are her kids- just interesting to see how they look now they are teenagers!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 02:03 PM
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K. Still sounds asexual. They say they feel sexual very, very rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 07:09 AM
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Asking for a friend: cannot get my middle finger and thumb to touch when grasping dick. Is dick “big”?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 06:11 AM
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I have literally no concept of how big is big. I am pretty sure the one dude I have had PIV with is big but like I am the MRP dream on this...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:43 AM
3

Christmas pics are such a fun exercise in noticing which of my cousin’s kids got her real nose!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:13 AM
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Hahahha- Great minds think alike!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 11:08 PM
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But that’s what the OP describes. Maybe they don’t like the label but that’s what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 10:39 PM
3

Is this just asexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 10:00 PM
3

I love the married guy informing me that blow jobs aren’t “whorish” in response to me saying speed to completion isn’t the key indicator of a good bj. It’s just chef’s kiss such a PPD thread. I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:50 PM
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Tony Soprano is definitely an exception. I would say it has to do with physical stature (he had fat on top of muscle and was still masculine looking) and then you add confidence and that narrative- he’s put on weight because his wife feeds him well but he can still hold his own and will knock a dude around etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:43 PM
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I don’t mean this unkindly and you have made me laugh a lot in the last 24 hours but every single one of your comments in this thread reads as “boobs are great. I love how they feel like bags of sand.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:30 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:27 PM
3

Totally. Knowing how to dress and feel good is such a confidence booster!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:26 PM
2

Oh I agree on the shaved head front. I always loved how my husband looked with the mister clean look but it does make him look intimidating and, once he hit like 30, the little bit of hair on the sides really does suit him. (Back to that idea of a narrative!!) The issue arises when dudes go full Constaza. That doesn’t suit anyone, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 09:23 PM
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I am never going to stop laughing at the sandwich blowjob thread. 10/10. Peak PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:15 PM
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... when you go down on a dude, he doesn’t usually want it to end quickly. He’ll stop you if he’s getting close too soon so that it will last longer. She’s pointing out that men like things long and drawn out. (This thread is the most tragically sad thing I have read all year...)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:15 PM
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- #1 style issue I see is men wearing shirts that are too big. A shoulder seam goes on your shoulder- if it’s on your arm, it makes your shoulders look rounded. That’s bad. Don’t do that. ROLL YOUR MOTHAFUKIN SLEEVES don’t be afraid of colors or prints, if you wear glasses try bolder frames- women like a narrative, a dude with a flattering cut, print shirt and “fun” glasses allows her to create a story in her head way more than a dude in a oversized, navy shirt and frameless lenses. if you’re lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:33 PM
2

What idiot woman answers this shit honestly????
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:18 PM
5

Husband has forbidden me from posting pictures of his godlike wrists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:04 AM
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Forearms, wrists, big hands, deep voices, hugs that make you feel engulfed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:08 AM
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I guess we’ll never know...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 03:46 AM
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When those women come to Reddit/PPD and start bitching we can have this convo with them. But 98% of men use porn, 51% of women use sex toys so I think we are talking different levels of usage and likelihood of overuse. I don’t know who needs to hear this but downvoting me won’t fix yo dick, Kyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:16 AM
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I don’t think it was “unpleasant” but it didn’t feel good like sex does now. I had a hymen, there was blood. My gf’s told me it might hurt a bit, they instructed me to to get drunk first so I did and that helped I think. I really liked the guy and was excited to take the next step so that helped. Married him so that all worked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:05 AM
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1) I find the term “your man” to be dehumanizing and gross. 2) I defer to my husband on many fronts based on who cares more and who is more equipped for the task. I wouldn’t define it as submission though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 12:02 AM
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That would make some comments make a lot more sense. It also would explain why when women express disinterest in sex that is solely about validating/servicing their partner, these commenters think those women are saying they hate sex. No, I just have 0 interest in sex that feels like moving furniture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 11:59 PM
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Is this just people who don’t see touch as an expression of love? Like everything is acts of service?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 11:14 PM
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Nah, I do not wonder about the opinions of men who apparently have never had their dick savored but thanks for the info.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 09:49 PM
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