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Why would women divorce their husbands if they already hit the "wall", nobody will be attracted to them and they have to be alone with their cats, as they say? Because they are "at the stage in their life where they need to figure out what they want". Or they "want to embark on a journey finding themselves and learning to allow themselves to be happy again". You know. The usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:18 AM
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Yeah everyone wants to be loved, but the more intense desire for most men is to give their love... Or the option for someone to WANT your love in the first place. This is why idol culture is so big in Japan. Men have all this desire to give love but for many nobody wants it from them. The capitalist machine saw a demand that needs supply, thus they manufacture idol personas whom these men can have pseudo-relationship with, and pour their love and money towards them. It's interesting that even wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:22 AM
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I’m trying to think of a good word for it. The word is exploitation. Somebody ask for your help and you give them advice to act in certain way that benefit yourself instead. You exploit their situation to your advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:07 AM
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They're not competing with other men, because they're not looking for serious relationship with any of these women. Just sex and procreation. If one woman was not available they'd just get another women who are as willing to provide access to sex and procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:11 PM
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That's probably why OP used the term "soft" harem. There are multiple harems with intersecting members where high number of younger women will shoot their shot of landing proper relationship with one of the limited numbers of top men by participating in these multiple harems. Most will of course fail to land long term relationship with the top men, and proceed to get married with mid men or remain single, sometimes with the top men offsprings. This is what's currently happening, and OP is hypoth…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:26 AM
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But if you look at 30 year olds, the majority of women have already married, so they’re not in harems either. This whole post revolves around the argument of “yeah but this might happen one day”. It's not hypothesizing the soft harem is the majority now, but that the trend moves towards increasing number of instances compared to the past which will eventually lead to it being normalized. I think OP is commenting the trend and speculating what social norm change that trend will bring in the futur…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:14 AM
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OK. Maybe it's too early to observe any pattern at this age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:05 AM
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This isn't the same as "wanting to be in a harem". It's having sex with high value men and hoping that they commit and suffering the consequences when they don't. Women generally don't want to be in harems. Most women in the actual harems probably also didn't want to be in a harem. That's why being able to give a son to the king is coveted, because it gave them opportunity for "proper" relationship with the king. It's not always successful, but still worth to try from their POV. In modern contex…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:26 AM
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Look beyond sleeping and see who got to procreate without relationship aka without committing time or resources. These are the modern day "kings" and the women who carry and rear their offsprings without being in the relationship with them are the "concubines" in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:13 AM
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I don’t know how referencing past monarchs indicates anything. It’s not like women would have the option of saying no to literal Kings even if they were not interested. Because past monarchs were the top men in the past, and the harem system were the most obvious around these men. Most of the time looking to the ancient past to derive what women “really want” is a crap shoot because in many cases women’s options and agency was very limited. Fair enough. As you can see now women have a lot of fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:44 AM
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We're not talking in general life style here. Just mating strategy, which is access to sex and procreation only, not to lasting relationship. Women will carry on child rearing with their own resources or minimum contribution from the top men without being in the relationship with them, but the purpose of sex and procreation for the top men has already been fulfilled at this point. It's like concubines who were no longer visited by the kings/sultans/khans, and free to pursue whatever they wanted …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:22 AM
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Sure. Even in the past the concubines were also getting their needs fulfilled by side dudes all the time. Such behaviours doesn't remove the structure that the top dudes remain priority for to the access to the concubines, and these top dudes are still the one with most likelihood to impregnate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:16 AM
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High value men aren’t going to stick around to be with a woman whom they don’t want to be with once she has his child, so your argument for women “sharing men” fails right there, These women already shared the high value men's time and seeds but not entitled to his commitment or emotional attachment. It already resembles harems in the past where the kings/sultans/khans had hundreds of concubines and can choose who he wanted to have sex with every night and inevitably impregnate some of them. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:12 PM
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Did you delete your comment that I first responded to? I can't find it. Just want to refresh what was talked before.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:30 AM
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Would you say your experience is common and represent the rules rather than the exception? If yes, then I get where are you coming from, but I am not convinced that it is actually common, based on my own experience. If no, and you think your experience is an outlier, then I think we should not expect to shape society based on principles that only make sense on rare outlier situations. Society operates by social contracts which are ultimately based on trusts. If we as society normalize actions, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:11 AM
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We should absolutely not normalize the expectation that women are always lying about paternity. That's basically what I said. It should be baseline expectation that women know who the father of their children is and tell the truth about it. We should definitely not normalize the situation where women are lying about their children paternity. There's not a situation. There's a completely hypothetical claim based on largely fictional Reddit posts. Not really. There are actual cases out there. It m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:00 AM
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In this case why not just be against hypocrisy and against mob justice mentality/vigilantism? When you say you want to normalize cheating, it sounds as you want the act of lying and deceiving to the partner that trusted you, by engaging in secret sex with other people, to be normalized and accepted. While I think you're just fed up with the hypocrisy and the mob justice mentality that often accompany the act of cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:45 AM
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It takes hardwork to be consistently not impulsive and consistently applying good judgment, where the consistency is the achievement here. Some people value virginity because for woman in liberal society to stay virgin, they must have some values that contribute to them being that way. Those men are probably attracted by those values. On the other hand, some men also value it for completely different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:59 AM
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Well the spectators who also value the same thing but don't have the means to acquire it also affect the value by contributing to the hype and make it more popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:49 AM
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Well duh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:45 AM
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Let's not normalize doxxing then. And by the way, having sex with others when you're on agreed upon open relationship is not cheating. Seems like you need to work on what is the definition of cheating that you're defending here, as from the two instances you tried to describe it, both are not considered cheating at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:30 AM
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Ever tried being nice because it’s a better way to live your life? How do you conclude that that was not their reason for being nice in the first place? The friends that I know who are in this situation has always been nice and kind people even from their primary school days, long before they discovered attraction towards the opposite gender. Let's stop victim blaming. They are the victim of this unfair universe. No need to make them feel even worse by framing them as the bad guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 02:23 AM
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Do you think when a woman gets pregnant, she gets a text message from her uterus saying "the real father is ____"? Should we normalize the expectation for women to act in a way so they would always know who make them pregnant and who is the father of their child? It's because this particular situation affect not only her, but also her family, her partners, and most importantly, her children. This should be baseline expectation anybody deserve to demand from their partner, of course excluding cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:42 AM
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Bla bla bla personal attack bla bla bla Pass!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:42 PM
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I want nothing to do with whatever warmth that is coming from an asshole. It stinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:59 PM
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I think we should differentiate between attraction for long term relationship and attraction for sex (lust). I'd argue for women who are currently just looking for a fling or casual sex, men with asshole tendency/characteristics are more attractive because they'd perceive these asshole men to be less judgey when it comes to casual sex It's easier to rationalize why they shouldn't have serious relationship with this asshole type, due to apparent assholery being on display These asshole men can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 09:44 AM
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Nah... "Cheating" is just having sex without following the hivemind like a braindead sheep. If you can't deal with human rights, well, sucks to be you I guess. Oh we're at inventing new definition to not make ourselves feel bad now, aren't we? Either way, people are slowly but surely getting tired of busybodies. Keep your opinions to yourselves. Well... don't be afraid of opinions. They won't bite. Opionions are how we adults exchange ideas. I'm sure as you mature you'll get better at handling t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:33 AM
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Nah... they're just opinions. If your cheating self can't handle it then... well, sucks to be you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:20 AM
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There absolutely is something wrong with ranting about things you changed your mind on. You mean like ex-scientologist or ex-jonestown cultist ranting about the group and the belief they left in a survivor support group? Or ex-mlm members ranting about the mlm they left in ex-mlm sub? What is wrong with having groups around the thing you left? I don't see anything wrong with that. Doing so could be cathartic for the person and having groups like that benefit the society as they can be informatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:48 AM
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I want to normalize people staying out of other people's relationships who aren't in those relationships. It doesn't matter if you found out. I agree, so long as people who cheat normalize keeping their cheating a secret. And if you're careless enough that other people are exposed to your cheating business, they deserve to react in a way they each think appropriate, which might include some judgement and condescension for some people. You know, just like masturbation? People will stay out from w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:59 AM
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How about people who cheat normalize keeping cheating a secret? And if you're careless enough that other people are exposed to your cheating business, they deserve to react in a way they each think appropriate, which might include some judgement and condescension for some people? You know, just like masturbation? People will stay out from what you do with your genital in your own time and space. But if you put it out in public, regardless intentionally or by accident, then the public deserve to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:56 AM
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You just describe the whole reddit. Very insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:43 AM
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It's normal to give up things when you meet someone that's worth it. I think this is the crux of the issue. I tried to explain to my partner how low the risk of injury is, and how fulfilling it is for me. I know she tried to understand that, but hwr face cannot hide the the concern and worry is still there. Everytime. So that's why I decided to give it up, and even she didn't say anything explicitly, I know that decision makes her feel better. Similar to that, women go clubbing is something that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:41 PM
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So....she doesn't go outside? Wow. How old are you? Hard to believe any adult would have reading comprehension this bad. What do you not do that would put you at risk? Some of my hobbies that sometimes causing injury and extended recovery time. It concerned her and I decided to give it up. Out of love of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:09 PM
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Yes we talked about this. We agree not to do things or going to places where there are higher risk of unwanted incidents happening, without informing and discussing it first. We do it out of love and care for each other feelings. We understand compromise is an important part of making the relationship work, and none of us demand total freedom without considering each other's concern and feeling. I understand what things I usually do that might concern or worry her, and she's the same. We have di…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:52 PM
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Have you heard about risk management? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_management
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:39 PM
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I would want the flaws in my logic to be identified but there’s no reason to add more issues to my plate if I’m already overwhelmed. Sometimes people have to be protected from themselves. I think it’s only lying if they never intended to tell me or had a malicious motive for doing so. As long as I was eventually told once I could handle it I don’t see an issue. Who do you think should have the duty to determine whether you can handle the truth or not? If nobody told you that you have a problem, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:38 PM
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It is actually very relevant to point out that there is no reason he should be speaking as if women complimenting each other is some big lie or evil activity. When really it’s banal, and he’s clearly only bothered by it since he is bothered by the idea of women receiving validation or compliments outside of what ‘he’ believes they deserve. If he did it randomly without any prompting, sure. But in this thread, it's kind of expected as it it part of the topic, don't you think? What is the purpose …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:28 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:26 PM
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Alright. If it was you yourself that was living in a delusion, where you perceived yourself as something else than you actually are, would you like people to be truthful with you or would you like them to entertain you in your delusion? Which one do you think is better for you? If someone is lying to you because they don't care enough about you or actually enjoy seeing you trapped in your delusiom, would you trust them as a friend? If yes, would you trust them more than people who are being hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:18 PM
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Do you think we should normalize cheating on our society? Remove the stigma from it so people can cheat without feeling judged? Teach our kid that it is acceptable behaviour and that they should expect it from their partner? Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:00 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:51 PM
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Yes. With males colleagues in professional setting where sexual advances can be easily called out and reported as being totally inappropriate. There are also security cameras and personnel making sure people are as safe as possible from possible attack or assault. Totally different from situation at clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:56 PM
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Nah.. you give the perfect examples yourself why men should be worry when their spouse or partners go to clubs. It's not about control or lack of trust. Again, it's not about control or lack of trust. You're basically asking men to stop caring for their spouse/partner wellbeing and you won't be asking that if you understand how love works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:43 PM
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Should we teach children that cheating is bad, good, or neutral? That's the point. If you're not being careful and your cheating affairs become public knowledge, should people treat such incident as something bad, something good, or something neutral? Golden rule would dictate that we should treat cheating as something bad, because we ourselves don't want to be cheated. And we know cheating causes pain and sometimes even harm to the party that is being cheated. So if we agree that cheating is ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 02:20 PM
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No need to bring his life into discussion or even mentioning it at all. Women giving each other compliments is a related topic to this thread, and people are rightly discussing about it in this thread, even if the topic has no bearing on their lives. That's what people do in thread like this. Bringing their life into discussion and insulting their romantic life through assumptions just to deflect their points is a low blow which unfortunately is quite a common tactic for some people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:36 PM
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Why the fuck are you worried about your partner if they're in a club? Why the fuck are you in a relationship with someone you don't even trust? It's not the lack of trust that trigger the worriness. It's related to the environment she placed herself in. For example, if my partner likes to go diving in parts of the sea where sharks lived, I'd feel worry for her wellbeing just for the fact that shark attack is plausible. Nothing to do with my trust in her diving skill. That's what happen when you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:24 PM
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The turn to personal attack and ad-hominem at the face of valid argumentation is too predictable at this point. You guys should have some more variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:16 AM
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It's a place to meet people. Have you never made friends in a club? So does dating apps. I'm sure you also made friends from dating apps. But that's not the point, though. If the real intent is to meet people and make friends, can we do it in places that does not raise concern to our spouse/partner. Why would we intentionally choose a way to meet people that is causing worry or insecurity to our spouse/partner, if we can achieve the same goal without causing those things? It's pretty easy to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:55 AM
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What they wrote is just common wisdom. No need to read their thoughts as it's easily understood with basic common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 09:16 AM
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Like I said, welcome to the world of relationships. Loving people means worrying about them when they go out. Again, why do you think restricting her freedom would result in her being more committed to you? Why would she stay with someone who tries to keep her from having fun? Voicing concern while not physically preventing people from going anywhere they want does not in any way or form mean restricting her freedom. He has the right to have such normal and healthy concern, and he has the right …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:30 AM
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Restricting her freedom is only going to make the things she can’t do more appealing. This is childish behavious and I fully believe most adults can do better than that. I believe men have the right to feel concerned when their spouse or girlfriends went to clubs, and women have the right to have fun in any way they deem fit. What I think is wrong is when people try to make men to feel bad and wrong for having this concern. It's a totally healthy concern to have, and not only related to cheating…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:48 AM
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If you know your friend is insecure why say something in a hurtful way especially when you know that’s how it will be interpreted? Why would being truthful is equated with being hurtful here? If your friend were conditioned to take negative feedback as an attack, doesn't mean you have to play alomg and lying to them. Being truthful with them could be the exact thing they need to actually accept the reality and make the best out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:17 AM
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People have free will. Don't like that they cheat? Not your business, not your vows, not your problem. How about "it takes a village to raise a child"? If a cheater is careless enough that their business is exposed and people know they are cheating, our children will look upon the adults in the society to learn how to approach and treat this particular topic. So there is pressure on the people to respond appropriately in a way that will send the right message for the children and society in gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:55 AM
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In other social settings, women are not actively placing themselves in such situation and sexual attention from other males will easily be called as inappropriate. While in clubs, women are actively placing themselves in a place where they know males will give them attention and sexual advances. I'm not sure if these subtle nuances between different settings are really that difficult to notice for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:31 AM
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In fact, the one time I cheated was because my boyfriend was being controlling and didn’t trust me. Good job proving him wrong there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:51 AM
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They were saying that we should not put ourselves at risky situation if we can help it. Even if we feel OK putting ourselves at risk, people who love us might feel uneasy about it, because they care about our wellbeing. It's good to account for our loved ones' concern too when making decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:47 AM
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Even if you do, you don't have to do it in the club acting oblivious about what kind of place that is. That"s like going into dating apps and when your spouse ask you why, you said "do you like talking to people?".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:20 AM
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Doesn't matter. If strip club ain't it then just replace it with other place where the above happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:09 PM
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What is the equivalent of clubs for men where in that place they get attention and sexual advances from people around them? Juat replace strip club with that place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 08:00 AM
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and found any guys approaching or wanting to dance with them to be annoying She needs safe space where she can dance without any guys approaching and annoying her. Clubs ain't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 07:55 AM
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Subsidised therapy for single men. Projects and activies using taxpayer money that are catered towards single men (e.g. ship building, wilderness survival, cooking class, outings, group traveling, etc.) Build men support center to help men get financial and emotional help and a place to socialize. Anything else that help single men coping with their loneliness and unfulfilled needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 10:55 PM
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The reality of the situation is that life isn’t always fair. How about some affirmative action policies to lift up those affected by the unfairness of life? The unfairness could come from nature or from man-made system, we need some policies that can help the affected single men going through the struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:22 AM
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those that are, already had big issues and traumas in their life. So based on what you wrote above, having a high body count is a good indicator that the person had big issues and traumas in their life? If yes, then for those who want less problematic and less complicated relationship, it would make sense to avoid having those with high body count as romantic partners. In this case, avoiding people with high body count as potential romantic partner is not a form of shaming, but an application of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:37 AM
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