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I got out fast because I met other redpillers and could tell they are losers that can not be happy. But I also had preexisting ideas of what is masculine and a bunch of guys constantly ranting online about women being scary just did not fit that nor provide any value for me. I also habitually avoid groups that are sausage fests, they get weird fast. No idea what your boyfriend's problem is, I can guess you can tell they are bitter fearfilled losers , so seeing him be taked into the redpill by th…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/26 11:12 PM
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Not redpill, but it does sound like a relationship you do not want to be in.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/26 09:40 PM
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Find other hobbies. Do not obsess about relationships as a concept or "need", doing so actually sabotages them while you are in one or dating. No one wants to admit it, but in terms of dating culture, gen Z does have it harder due to the internet culture and constant onlineness bleeding through, as well as being surrounded by mixed messages as to what is acceptable. Other generations had a lot of problems, I mean a lot, some of the fallback of those problems is what hit gen Z.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/26 05:44 AM
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The main reason is this: Redpill tends to bait with something that sounds rational before it gets to the ragebaity part. "Do you have some dating frustration? Well, we can help you.." [this part starts rational, everyone has some dating frustration, and now that your guard is down and you are expecting practical advice, it moves onto the stuff made to shock you and make you angry to keep you vulnerable] "That's because...blah blah blah hypergamy... Blah blah blah cock carousel... Blah blah blah …
/r/ExRedPill26/07/26 07:10 PM
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Does it make a difference? He sounds like a douche.
/r/ExRedPill26/07/26 06:52 PM
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The situation you mentioned is literally an affair between a 💩 y husband and her 💩 y friend. Not all dysfunction is redpill . Redpill did not invent affairs. Do you think her friend was redpill for sleeping with that lady's husband?
/r/ExRedPill26/07/26 06:51 PM
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You do not have to rationalize edgelord ragebait. When you walk around and you see dog poop on the ground, do not pick it up and analyze it, leaving a smell and bad impression on yourself, leave it there and move on. Jaust because something is shocking does not mean it warrants your attention.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/26 03:20 PM
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They were accused of taking the trafficked women's passports too. That is not consent.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/26 09:20 PM
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Social experiment viral videos are mostly staged. Notice how the camera angle is good and attractive women always stop to stay engaged with these guys when there seems to be no joy in it.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/26 12:42 AM
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People are not born knowing how to drive nor is it in instinct to drive. People get an instinct to have sex. People do not get an instinct to choke each other during sex. Some people enjoy it, but that is learned.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 09:46 PM
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I never claimed kink was just invented. What are you on about?
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 09:44 PM
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People do not instinctively get the idea to choke each other during sex while young and fumbling on the bed. That idea comes from porn.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 08:33 PM
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When I was young, being "vanilla" in bed was so normal that no one called it being "vanilla". Sex was just something people did, not some hypothetical planned out thing and kinks were understood to be niche, not treated like zodiac signs and identities.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 08:31 PM
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A great question to ask yourself: if this was not red pill and he just happened to be like that, would it be any better? To everyone else, what is up with choking when there is no communication nor indication someone is into it? is that a generational thing from seeing too much porn?
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 05:34 AM
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Not trying to flatten this as a personal grievance. Ask a practicing redpiller what he thinks of somali men right now and you will see what I mean.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/26 06:10 AM
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Make him sleep outside?
/r/ExRedPill21/07/26 02:25 AM
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It is 86 minutes long. Since you have suffered on our behalf, feel free to share your thoughts on it for those of us that are watching basically anything else instead. Later editing, Well, I watched 20 minutes while changing my phone's screen protector. The pro redpill people keep giving generic talking points and just treating these as complete givens. The anti redpill guy is toothless and keeps criticizing the redpill's misogyny and apparent tendency to make its members actually less happy; Ho…
/r/ExRedPill21/07/26 12:49 AM
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"Do your own research" is always sketchier than "here is a link with actual data".
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 08:02 PM
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A lot of us never heard of it. The thing about the internet: there is a lot of garbage. Not all of it should be watched or interacted with. Some of the stuff is just bait, some is just designed to push buttons, some is designed to somehow keep you unsettled even when you know it is beyond wrong. Garbage drives clicks. It's healthy to be skeptical before watching something because someone online says to watch it. Do you really watch every 30 minute video of someone in sunglasses ranting in their …
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 07:58 AM
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Is this one of those things that will make us dumber for googling it?
/r/ExRedPill19/07/26 10:16 PM
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Facebook reels gives you this even if you showed zero interest. Click the three dots and aelect "not interested". Do this for all redpill stuff that comes up. Same for any unwanted propaganda.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/26 06:34 PM
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Women are having less sex too. What does that even prove?
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 06:50 PM
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19 to 24 countries spanning from Morocco to Iran? Please forgive my skepticism. Also, do non english speaking countries really say foid and hypergamy?
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 02:13 AM
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"hypergamous"? In that some guys really think a woman will divorce them on the spot when a richer guy passes and then jump his bone? and what is this "arab world" you mean, some guys on reddit, the full country of saudia arabia, your local cooking group?
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 12:34 AM
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How would redpill even survive in such a hyper macho culture? Redpill teachings really contrast with traditional masculinity.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 12:30 AM
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Do they call it redpill or are you just talking about general misogyny? Not all misogyny is redpill.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 12:28 AM
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No. Generation Z women staring is just something they do now. I learned to accept it. A generation spends a lot of time on their phone and their social skills have taken a hit. A lot of them are shy and awkard too. Lets put it this way: tiktok does not help social skills. As for talking to women: get used to talking to some like you talk to men, not just ones you are interested in dating. Learning to talk to people helps you in life and in business. Try not to be in your head catastrophizing, no…
/r/ExRedPill17/07/26 12:21 AM
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Yeah, red pill, copying pickup artist, really downplays charisma, social skills, warmth, and even actual conversational skills. Because like PUA, Redpill claims to be a simple one-size-fits-all answer. These do not want to take the time and work to address a person that is awkward, that has a speech impediment, that has a nervous tic, that keeps scratching their head, that has awkward conversational habits, that hogs a conversation, that has difficulty with eye contact, that keeps moving a conve…
/r/ExRedPill16/07/26 07:03 PM
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Looking at what you have posted about Tom Leykis, I do not understand why you want to give him the time of day. There are some things just way too out there to even require debunking.
/r/ExRedPill15/07/26 08:25 PM
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You can like someone as a friend but still be tired of hanging out with them because they are a downer, and be just completely done with hanging out with them while holding no ill will. The concept of "stop being friends with" is odd to me because I am not that formal. I have some old friends that I still keep in contact with but can not be around for more than 30 minutes due to these individuals being draining or cockblocks.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 08:34 PM
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In terms of what? You mentioned it in exredpill of all places and I do not get how that relates, so my thoughts will probably not interact with your point well.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 08:32 PM
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Why TF should we know who that is? Stop pretending that random nobodies on YouTube are famous.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 07:11 PM
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Take a break from partying and alcohol if it is not making you feel fulfilled.
/r/ExRedPill14/07/26 06:37 PM
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Good riddance. Seriously. With or without the redpill, that sounds like 💩. I am sure he will find this ideal housewaifu while between jobs lol Sometimes, it's harder to know if redpill is relevant, but easy to just see this guy sucks.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/26 07:19 PM
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Read the experience of this guy that got screwed by redpill's bad advice in another thread on the same day. https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/s/fn5yZoaX81
/r/ExRedPill10/07/26 07:18 PM
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You got it. At the heart of redpill , between fearing, constantly judging, and resenting women is the other huge flaw if the redpill; it is obsessed with women. It pushes a worldview and whole identity of being obsessed with women. Everything gets framed about women. Drop the redpill, try to get hints at how successful couples act. It's harder if you come from divorced parents or parents with obvious social dysfunctions, I get that. A huge thing to drop from the redpill is the framing in seeing …
/r/ExRedPill10/07/26 07:16 PM
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That's dating apps. Your whole experience is in dating apps. There are way more women on dating apps and a lot of those women will never even see your profile in a slush of male profiles. Look, the redpill will not teach you how to even out the gender rationon dating apps or make dating apps less bizarre. The redpill is useless for you. It will just give you constant ragebait and make you worse with women.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/26 07:02 PM
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I burned out of dating apps way over a decade ago. I just straight up stopped using them. Dating apps are not reality. There is way more men than women on them, there are scammer accounts on them posing as women, and the people on rating apps+dating sites just tend to be worse. That has literally nothing to do with redpill. Look, if you see redpill or incel clips popping up on your reels or suggested videos, click "not interested" fast. These are clickbait, not made to help, but made to get your…
/r/ExRedPill10/07/26 06:59 PM
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why?!?!?
/r/ExRedPill09/07/26 04:39 AM
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NGL, this thread is way more positive than I expected. I think I have been reading too many negative reddit spaces lately and got my expectations way low.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/26 07:22 AM
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not every awkward dating thing is redpill. Also, try asking him what "just into casual" means.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 06:06 PM
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Drop the self label "incel", it has baggage and was cursed from the start. Don't make this thing a whole identity. A lot of people have bad luck at dating, especially now in the cellphone tinder age. It's not really a special exclusive club.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 08:44 AM
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Have them meet redpillers in person after meeting enough other people. Seriously, that's what got me out of it fast.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 12:40 AM
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I can do better than that, I feel mistrust towards every person in a city.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 12:38 AM
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Why bother breaking anything down? Just because people say something is true, then charge money for a book, does not make it true. Look up Snake oil.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 12:37 AM
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stop watching those podcasts. click "not interested" when it shows up in suggestions or reels. Social media is made for engagement and ads, and favors ragebait and cringe. Go meet people outside.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 12:35 AM
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workout. However, red pill did not invent working out. Also, redpill still tends to make it about women too much.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 12:32 AM
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Hm. so is everything in extremes with this guy?
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 07:15 PM
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No offense meant, but where are you meeting these guys?
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 07:09 PM
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Generational gap here: why do so many gen z want an online influencer to model on? I am not saying my generation is any better, we had our own problems exploited by bad actors.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 07:06 PM
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If someone is completely misogynist, emotionally more taxing than he is worth, and a complete drag to be around, are you really going to say "it's fine, at least he is not specifically redpill"?
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 04:59 AM
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I never really checked if my virgin radar beeps, but I got it on an amazon prime deal so minimal money wasted on it.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/26 04:57 AM
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OP made it sound like an emergency, then disappeared into the void.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/26 07:51 PM
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Yeah, it's weird how contrived and horrible some of those daydreams get. Like something bad is going to happen, he will get a notification on his phone, and then he will take an uber to it to solve the problem and everyone will wait for him. Also, he will somehow win every fight and know every correct action to take, and the world is expected to be completely reliant on him. In reality, the person daydreaming this has not done jack squat, even when the opportunity arises.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/26 09:11 PM
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His take is an immature hero power fantasy. It sounds like seeing your paper made him feel like he was on the defense and like he needed to defend himself. I have never read your assignment, nor am I sure how much of it is about your claim of men having violent fantasies, nor am I sure of how this is contextualized. Anyways, that's what I get so far without hearing the nitty gritty. I am not sure what your paper is about, so I can not respond about it, just about your boyfriend's response. My gu…
/r/ExRedPill24/06/26 11:15 PM
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Every response of yours is absurdly contrived. Are you just trolling?
/r/ExRedPill24/06/26 04:40 PM
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wtf is social status?
/r/ExRedPill24/06/26 04:35 PM
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I agree with every part of your post.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/26 05:29 AM
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You get it. In RP, you are never allowed to just be happy. Every situation with a woman is deemed as danger, even year 10 of marriage.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/26 05:27 AM
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touch grass. Look, dating apps suck. People are their worst on dating apps. they always have always sucked, even from the days they were dating sites. Stop treating them as normal baseline for humanity. There are also drastically more men than women on those apps. In fact, there are way more men that just swipe yes on everyone than there are women that do that. And stop looking for grievances. "chadfishing". Oh brother. I have shower up multiple times to dates from dating sites to see my date lo…
/r/ExRedPill23/06/26 04:18 AM
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The conclusion could use some work. It seems to view "romantic concerns" as being the end all cause of the problem, but that could just as easily be a symptom. The conclusion itself even mentions "institutional distrust"; However, nowhere mentioned is potential clinical depression or other underlying mental health issues. It assumes the loudest stated grievance to be the main problem, rather than just a subject that is easier to communicate about. Also, even if you got these guys sex, even a lot…
/r/ExRedPill22/06/26 06:49 AM
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Because it sounds more marketable to people closer to normality.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/26 12:10 AM
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I can say, but I am trying really hard to avoid bringing up politics here.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/26 08:56 PM
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The opposite of sitting in front of a computer whining about not getting women and turning this into an identity.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/26 08:51 PM
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manosphere and masculinity are not the same thing. Manosphere is a bunch of guys sitting around and whining about not getting women. That's not masculinity. Manosphere figures are also performative AF.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/26 07:21 PM
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avoid life advice with polarized black and white ways of thinking.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/26 11:51 PM
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probably, Roosh said a lot of insane edgelord things. He might have actually become a filter for MRA, making moderate guys leave and attracting angry grievance guided guys with no real goals.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/26 08:19 PM
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For one thing, viewing this as an adulthood milestone is a terrible reason to date. For another, viewing this as an adulthood milestone is guaranteed to make you project desperation and will scare off potential dates.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/26 07:35 PM
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You are talking about lifelong commitments. He wants to have kids. Even without the redpill thing, is this sustainable?
/r/ExRedPill16/06/26 08:34 PM
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lmao hell no. Friends. But there was always a sense of entitlement of wanting things to go their way, without them working towards anything. And a real try-too-hard to seem exceptional or macho, especially when realizing a lot of other guys actually work with their hands to some capacity. Basically guys that had no idea how to feel macho when all of their cars and most of their bills were paid for by their parents.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/26 11:20 AM
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Did he call you selfish after you said you were breaking up with him? No one is really able to cancel breaking up.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/26 08:06 AM
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It also depends on what you consider "red pill". People calling themselves "manosphere", but without the pretense about picking up women, popped up in the late 2000s, though technically, an obscure movement was already around and there were some really small obscure fringe online groups in the early 2000s, which stayed very obscure because they had nothing to really offer anyone. A really pathetic but very famous example was Roosh; he changed MRA movements constantly to whatever was more prevale…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/26 08:01 AM
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Probably late 2000s. Pickup artist came first in the early 2000s (it is a scam, it does not work, it is about getting money to the gurus). Redpill adopted some of the pickup artist stuff but at some point dropped the pretense about trying to get laid, and just turned into a depression farm.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/26 12:37 AM
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Just a guess, and something I've noticed from people that were raised rich: he realized there is no connection to anything masculine or macho in his rich sheltered life, so he overcorrected and adopted whatever weird things they fed him. I have encountered this before. Basically, he realized there is nothing manly or reliable left after his dad's maid kept doing every chore for him.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/26 12:08 AM
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It's all from internet people trying to sell ebooks, CDs with videos, and lectures. It got lazier and just became about adclicks. Remember: The people that preach redpill do not really believe in it.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/26 12:03 AM
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I have met red pillers in real life. They are desperate and angsty. Some will straight up rant about how scary women are while I am talking to one. They bleed an aura of chip on shoulder.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/26 08:21 PM
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I am not very familiar with black pill or its point; is it just a depression echo chamber or is someone making money off it?
/r/ExRedPill13/06/26 09:18 PM
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ok, first thing is first: the world will not get more fixed by you not doing the term paper. Get your own act together so you can clear up the headspace to properly worry about other people. If that term paper is not done, you will be stuck in panic mode and unable to do anything else as well as you otherwise could.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/26 09:15 PM
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Honestly, this is a hard one. Look, you can't fix everything. That hurts to hold to. I get that. And the weird irony is that people that are homophobic, transphobic, etc tend to torture themselves a lot over this stuff. First hand, I can tell you, it sucks to see a family member torturing himself with this. Adding in religion makes it even more weird because religion overrides logic. If it was just the redpill, this would be more workable because we can very easily prove the redpill is a scam.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/26 08:56 PM
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I was never in black pill, whole different ward. Redpill and PUA exist because they can be easily monitized, and redpill gets boosted in election years. I am not in the loop for blackpill.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/26 10:20 PM
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Wait, are you saying a bunch of ex redpillers became leftists? That's interesting, I became distrusting of movements that rely on grievances as well as people that talk big and try to become deacons in ideologies that should not have deacons. That sounds oddly specific, but I spent time in PUA and redpill, both full of that.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/26 09:14 AM
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So incel stuff does always not exist in a bubble, when you meet the people in it, you find they tend to be really generally depressed about life overall, not just regarding women.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/26 09:28 PM
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You might also want to get other demographic information in your interview. Redpill skews white.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/26 09:26 PM
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For me, it was the opposite. When I was in the redpill, I noticed that when they talked about relationships, it had no bearing on reality. I never got dumped for not being alpha enough, but I was once in a relationship that rotted because the lady's friends did not like my race. But redpill never talks about that. Look, get it in your head: redpill is full of 💩
/r/ExRedPill11/06/26 09:25 PM
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Oh. I've met redpillers in person, actual redpillers that still believed in it. They were always unhappy and constantly looking for things to be unhappy about concerning women. That's the redpill: obsessed with women. Not Actually quitting them, just digging for grievances, sometimes how of nowhere. Sometimes redpillers get enraged about fictional characters from movies. 36? OK, I mean this nicely: is your redpill belief isolated, or part of overall depression? Basically, is this really in a bub…
/r/ExRedPill10/06/26 06:04 AM
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You are in good company. I, too, hate how people get eager to pat themselves on the back when you genuinely want to be better. Two questions: 1 How old are you? 2 Have you ever met any redpillers in person, and if so, were any of them actually happy, actually happy, rather than performative for praise?
/r/ExRedPill09/06/26 08:35 PM
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ok, first question: is your brother online too much? Second question: he's 18, is he meeting any women around his age at all? It's odd at 18, especially if he just barely graduated high school; Look, in high school, everyone is kind of an emotional wreck, that's part of life, part of the learning process; so he is at an age where he is suggestable and he is surrounded by everyone at their weirdest. third question: Does he just have one friend group that is most of his socializing? So you can try…
/r/ExRedPill09/06/26 08:20 AM
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I never knew it was traditional for guys to spend hours in front of a screen looking for vague grievances about women to build their whole self identities on.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/26 10:48 PM
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He is 43. Too old for this 💩. Unfortunately, this is how he processed his grief; he looked for easy answers online. He saw some grifters who talked confidently.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/26 03:51 AM
1

What's your take on RSD ("real social dynamics") franchise?
/r/ExRedPill01/06/26 11:08 PM
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I read "the game". I know Neil Strauss's structure. There is a chapter in which he claims he could have had enthusiastic sex with britney spears but he didn't because he is such a decent guy.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/26 09:48 PM
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That is the whole key to understanding the redpill. Instead of doing anything to make themselves happier, these guys are taught to take joy from imagining some "other", in this case women, having a worse experience.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/26 09:45 PM
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eh... a lot of people have sex addiction even without the PUA lifestyle. I've met some. Sex addiction aside, you just fell for a commercial. "The game" has a similar structure where Mystery had way too much sex with beautiful women and it damaged him, oh no, his teachings will get you there too. It sounds like "The truth" does the same thing but with Neil Strauss suffering because of too much sex with beautiful women instead. It disarms the reader by making it look sympathetic, creating a clean …
/r/ExRedPill01/06/26 12:13 PM
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I am being skeptical here. Did he write a claim about a guy that was suffering because too many models were throwing themselves at him or did he just admit the PUA method does not get more woman than an average guy just talking to women?
/r/ExRedPill31/05/26 11:03 PM
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The redpill markets a worldview full of transaction and subtle conflict. The redpill is meant to market, not work.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/26 10:35 AM
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I never read his book "The truth", but I recall reading "the game" by neil Strauss; it is fiction, and most of the people that think it is a "how to" guide have never read it. He has these stories meant to make the whole thing look glamorous, even while claiming "oh no, mystery is depressed because he had sex with way too many women". That's not a warning, that's marketing. His "warnings" are just thinly veiled ways to market "follow this and you will have sex with a lot of women, too many even,…
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 11:04 PM
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the back of her head? you don't find that strange?
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 09:15 PM
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If he believes in redpill and he decided you need to know he's dating a 20 year old, then I give a 50% chance he made her up. Redpill is weird and performative, especially since he went out of his way to tell you
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 08:41 PM
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your comments on pakistani men.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 07:35 PM
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There is no way for you to know if his new fiance is a virgin or if she exists. The fact that he told you is weird. No idea how he managed to upgrade your plane ticket, it's time to change your passwords. Also, don't date narcs. It is awkward if someone wears a wire on a date.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 07:31 PM
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Here is am example of what I mean when I say MRAs and manosphere types hate other men a lot.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 07:29 PM
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here is a better question; how does rhe framing of 40 year old men as wiser and 40 year old women solve anything? answer: it sells a fantasy. And lets say you are wiser or more damaged at 40; who cares? people are not giving you prizes for it. the world keeps moving.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 02:13 AM
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Redpill's framing was always a sales pitch, not a search for truth.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/26 01:03 AM
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No. Most women are not gold diggers. Some are, but those are the ones you should avoid, even if you get rich.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/26 01:05 AM
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wealth is how much money you have and "status" is a fictional thing. "Status" was pushed to sell "pickup artist" classes which were a scam. The sales pitch is "women want status and go with us and we will give you status". It was a scam. They created a fictional need and they promised to solve the fictional need if you give them thousands of dollars.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/26 08:56 PM
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That's not status. That's wealth. Those are different things. Also, it is normal to be broke at 20.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/26 08:14 PM
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wtf is status?
/r/ExRedPill28/05/26 07:52 PM
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It sounds like you recognize this is irrational but it still keeps ticking at you like a phobia. Can we call this a phobia? People with a phobia of spiders do know on an intellectual level the spider can not do anything to them, yet still react to the phobia. Tell us your motivators for fitness. For looks or to feel good? Also, an underrated concept on this subreddit: are you meeting women platonically everywhere? The reason I ask this is that if you are not getting much socializing with women o…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/26 07:47 PM
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No. You are 20. date other women around your age. Being broke and 20 is normal because they are also broke and 20. Most people are broke at 20. The really awkward part about being 20 is that dating women 21 and over is hard due to the simple inability to walk into bars of you live in the US. "high value" is an old PUA fiction with the origin of "reasons to give the PUA guru your money . Women can not read your character sheet, they can not see your "value" score. "Value" is nor quantifiable. In …
/r/ExRedPill28/05/26 07:38 PM
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OK, I am going to dispel a huge manosphere myth here: not every guy has the same expectations set on them at every age and every walk of life and not the same requirements by every woman. You can be a 22 year old unshowered musician living on a girlfriend's parents' couch because they are too polite to tell you to leave before their new door locks arrive, and you can be a 36 year old expected to have gainful employment, you can be a 27 year old working at fast food in a small town, you can be a …
/r/ExRedPill28/05/26 06:51 AM
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Youth is messy. Fumbling is normal, people do the best with what they know, which is a lot of fumbling.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/26 06:45 AM
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You probably should not be dating married men.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/26 01:00 AM
3

How old are you two, if you don't mind me asking?
/r/ExRedPill21/05/26 07:21 AM
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I have never watched Hamza nor do I know anything about his methods of storage unit organizing. Organizing storage unit is not something the redpill goes over. I was in this stuff before the pandemic. Redpill is usually a pipeline that starts "you are doing badly with women but we can help" then goes into "women are horrible monsters, you can not trust them, but you always need the redpill". There is nothing about storage unit organizing. For some views on Hamza , here is an old thread from 2 ye…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/26 11:10 PM
5

Just stay away from it. It sounds like a drain.
/r/ExRedPill19/05/26 08:03 PM
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I am a nonwhite man and I learned not to date anyone that constantly throws my race or my sex in my face. I learned that the hard way. Also, try not to simplify things as left/right; If someone is a hateful piece of trash and they ruin fun moments with long rants over who they want harmed, then simplifying it as "conservative values" is just denying the problem. If someone keeps talking about how you are untrustworthy because of your sex, then you are never going to be able to relax around them.…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/26 07:54 PM
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If you can afford therapy, keep going. do good for you.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/26 06:27 AM
7

I met redpillers in person and that was the final straw. Look, you know why this mostly survived online instead of at big redpill meetings? Because these people are lame AF in person. Seriously. The second you see them talk to women, they come off as desperate, craving validation from both men and women, and just unable to make organic conversation. Then they are so angsty. Seriously.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/26 01:11 AM
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In general, due to a constantly online culture, younger people, especially women, are way less open to interacting with strangers than they used to be. Don't take it personally. There was a time in which we did not have access to 24/7 clickbait articles in our pocket and that time is gone now. You don't even have to doomscroll, your news feed will feed you dooming clickbait articles unless you manually turn that off and not everyone knows how to turn that off. You can imagine what that does to a…
/r/ExRedPill10/05/26 10:38 PM
7

Where are these "most men" questions coming from?
/r/ExRedPill07/05/26 04:24 PM
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You see what he consumes. Say something, intervene early. Also, why do you call this person your "partner" instead of boyfriend/girlfriend? I never really understood heterosexual couples that do that. If I get downvoted for asking, that's fine, but I would rather ask anonymously over reddit than make things awkward with friends asking in person.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/26 08:53 PM
2

The final straw: I met both PUAs and redpillers in person. There's a reason this survives mostly online: In person, these people repel TF out of women, especially when in a group. Basically, they get taught boring awkward routines, they come off desperate, and despite being told to be "willing to walk away", these guys do not really seem like they are willing to walk away. Redpillers get even worse because they basically bleed hostility towards women and makes the whole group look bad. You basic…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/26 05:31 AM
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find some physical activities you enjoy, something to get you away from the internet. Seriously. Give yourself something to look forward doing. It will bring your mind away from trying to compare yourself to whatever fictional online ideal you are told to live up to.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/26 10:44 PM
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So... an upside; this job will have you stretch your social muscles. Let yourself grow with the job. Get used to talking to women and even guys you might habitually misjudge based on appearance. If you are constantly online and have an isolating job, the internet paints a bleak reality. If you are stuck talking to people, you get used to the notion that everyone else is as human as you. Anyways, try to keep an open mind. Treat everyone as a blank slate until you get to know rhem. A lot of us had…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/26 04:02 AM
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Therapy about the neediness. But not everyone can afford it. But be honest with yourself about your history, relationships with family in the past, etc. Is this a new behavior, or is it a pattern stemming from a past? Is the neediness just with women? where these behaviors manifest? It's ok to not always know what to do or say, that's part if being human. Romance is not like the movies where everyone says the right thing all the time.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/26 03:30 AM
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A weird part of life is discovering that there are just some social circles that are very cursed. his friend group is one of them.
/r/ExRedPill03/05/26 09:52 PM
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You don't have to help or fix anyone, do not look for a project. Date someone else. While that stuff is included in the redpill, I do not see enough to say he is specifically redpill (not all weird misogyny is specifically redpill, misogyny was around before the redpill); but complimenting on submissiveness is creepy and a red flag. You are 19, you have choices. I do not even consider the age gap a big deal, but if he is still talking like this at 24, that is a huge red flag for the long term. T…
/r/ExRedPill01/05/26 11:41 PM
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Those facebook warning groups are still around? ew. That aside, you see what to expect from him, entitled, bitter, expects the rest of the world to be d over backwards to please him? How does he treat waiters and service workers? An odd thing about the redpill; while it teaches to disklike women, practitioners tend to also dislike a lot of other men based on race, religion, etc. Do you see that in him? Sometimes, the red flags are seen in how a potential partner treats those around him he or she…
/r/ExRedPill29/04/26 09:46 PM
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Yes, that is redpill. Normally, I would point out that not all misogyny is redpill, but the combination uou described, especially "hypergamy", is uniquely redpill. Here is an interesting note on redpill: it sounds like he was in a relationship where he could just relax and settle down, but instead, the redpill convinced him he is not allowed to be happy about it and just enjoy it. That's the thing about redpill the practitioners do not realize: they are never given an exit path to pull the stick…
/r/ExRedPill29/04/26 06:17 PM
3

The current DOJ answers to a guy that is friends with Andrew Tate.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/26 09:20 AM
1

Different country? That's going to change things. Do you know the language? Are you considered to have an accent there?
/r/ExRedPill29/04/26 06:28 AM
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The depression is a major challenge here. Polarized black-and-white thinking, and self defeating thoughts making it hard to motivate yourself to take very normal risks. Im your 20s and college, did you do anything social or anything that got you out meeting people, sports, hobbies, academic clubs, etc? 30 is not really that bad for dating, but you serve yourself at that age by dressing more put together and figuring out where to meet people (definitely not in places full of college students). Wh…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/26 08:52 PM
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I am glad she has ways to kill time.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/26 01:40 AM
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I get it, it is basically isolating and the percieved "norm" of humanity gets skewed to whoever is on the screen or at very late night restaurants. The algorithm is weird. I watched a video labeled about being someone critics might not like in the game Pragmata. A vague title. Then most of the video was about women bad, men protectors, that was... that was it. I just clicked a video that looked like it was analyzing reviews about a cute video game. After that, my suggested videos got way worse b…
/r/ExRedPill23/04/26 06:39 PM
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Sometimes, read your comments before posting them and think, "would it help me at all if someone responded to me like this"? I am not trying to make this personal, but be really honest with yourself on the likely result.
/r/ExRedPill23/04/26 06:33 PM
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How does that even make sense? Redpill is the opposite of "machismo". Instead of doing macho things like working with tools or physical acts, redpill teaches to sit around a keyboard complaining about women all day, a behavior that would get a person dropped, expelled, maybe even "pretend we don't know that guy"ed by a bunch of machismo guys. It just sounds like you are grouping every misogyny containing idea together. Redpill was not made to appeal to manly guys doing manly stuff. It was made t…
/r/ExRedPill23/04/26 07:21 AM
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My facebook reels stuff was getting manosphere stuff. But it fit a predictable pattern: a lame guy making a bunch of big claims and looking confident about it. That's practiced, it is a show. I can just as easily look confident saying lizards are fish if I practice for the camera. Also, for some reason, if you look up movies and video games on youtube, it starts hitting you with manosphere stuff because the algorithm is bizarre. I get this, if you are working late night, you are by yourself, no …
/r/ExRedPill23/04/26 04:57 AM
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I just put on TV news and it never said to kill men. Also, seriously, chill. I'm talking to you as a guy that is also tired of "man or bear" thing. I'm not going to tell you to go read feminist theory for whatever reason. That said, those "menaretrash" etc hashtags are old news, made irrelevant, propped up before election years. In fact, if you take a look, weird edgelord anti men stuff consistently gets propped up right before a US election. Take a look at the years of the posts. Alright right …
/r/ExRedPill23/04/26 04:18 AM
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The tea app and "are we dating the same guy" are old news that fell apart and became jokes. Can you tell me what sources are telling you that you are a monster?
/r/ExRedPill23/04/26 02:43 AM
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Some self awareness would help you out as well. Do you see anything wrong with making fake accounts?
/r/ExRedPill15/04/26 12:32 AM
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When you got to the point of making fake accounts, the person you were hurting the most is yourself. There's realizing the truth; but there's also realizing when you are just torturing yourself.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/26 07:42 PM
2

why do we keep seeing researchers on this subreddit but never see results?
/r/ExRedPill14/04/26 07:39 PM
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PUAs and redpillers, but especially PUAs, brag about sleeping with women they did not really sleep with. When you go to PUA lectures and bootcamps, a big part of the marketing of PUA is that other guys will congratulate you for picking up women and having sex (this does not really happen). Part of PUA's marketing is not just acceptance by women, but acceptance by other men as well. PUA is a scam, by rhe way, and the gurus know that it does not work, but the money earned is lucrative.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/26 07:38 PM
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I never got into blackpill, but if you read how the people in it write, it looks like they came in with some vulnerable depression. Look for patterns such as black and white thinking in the individuals.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/26 07:35 PM
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I can tell you this from personal experience: You don't want to know who your ex dated after you. You don't want to know her history after you. That's basically a more personalized form of doom scrolling. I found this out the hard way. If she is still on your facebook, and you can not bring yourself to remove her from your friend list, do yourself a favor and click "unfollow" on your profile. i mean this from personal experience, give yourself room to move on.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/26 07:32 PM
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It assumes there is a main woman that did so, as opposed to a parent figure or an influencer ecosystem that keeps getting propped up by social media reels algorithms. Me, my confidence issues always stemmed from parental figures that kept telling me nothing I do is good enough, everything I do is wrong, I am a bad kid and bad adult, wrong college, wrong major, wrong employer, wrong clothing style, and beyond hope and this has to be brought up repeatedly to keep me on a state of constant vigilanc…
/r/ExRedPill13/04/26 01:48 AM
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You're 16. Where are you getting this impression that you have to have a huge dating history by 16?
/r/ExRedPill12/04/26 04:59 AM
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redpill, redpill adjacent, and redpill knockoff figured exist. I do not on not know anything about these individuals, but other weirdly obsessively misogynist ideologies exist.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/26 07:46 PM
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Redpill always frames things as "no man is good enough, you need redpill" while at the same time keeping the medsage of "you are never good enough to leave redpill, you are not allowed to offemap and be happy".
/r/ExRedPill10/04/26 07:43 PM
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When you are with someone, don't stay with them with the intention of fixing or changing them. Don't make a partner into a project. There are other fish in the sea.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/26 06:09 AM
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You will see me telling this to guys, too; get out more. Meet people. Not just for dating, actually meet people, learn the world is bigger and more diverse in thought, more interesting, more worthwhile than extreme internet echo chambers. Seriously, get yourself off the internet, and time away from relatives. Expand your world. And if you have incel stuff in your reels, newsfeed, whatever, look for a "not interested" option to fix your algorithm. When you click "not interested" on enough of thes…
/r/ExRedPill09/04/26 06:05 AM
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click "not interested" on those videos. Those influencers are trying to shock you so you go back to them for more. Some people they talk to are even coached. Some of these influencers just look for drunk people that are easy to manipulate or someone to pay for a better answer. Again, click "not interested" on those videos. Your algorithm can be tailored. I had to tailor mine.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/26 10:40 PM
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For context, the redpill is a scam to sell ebooks and generate ad revenue, and is designed to not have a offramp.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/26 10:37 PM
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ohhhhh. Has your brother in law been diagnosed with anything?
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:58 PM
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Not every weird toxic thing is redpill. Your brother in law has some serious issues. I have had some inconsiderate neighbors when it comes to this stuff, I have been an inconsiderate neighbor. Usually, everyone just pretended not to notice so we can all go about our lives. Does your brother in law have a history of keeping weird long grudges over things that are not that big of a deal?
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:41 PM
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So are you saying all men banded together and all men think like this and believe in it?
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 08:36 PM
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Redpill sounds less coherent while typing it all out, huh?
/r/ExRedPill02/04/26 12:26 AM
1

Parasites sometimes look for a new body with room to eat and multiply.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/26 06:13 PM
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It depends on when you want to say it started and who you want to associate with it. So a good example was a weird blogger that went from PUA to redpill to alt right and just latched onto every weird term, Roosh V; He was actually too weird for PUA, PUA people just wanted to get laid, Roosh V wanted to wine about how horrible women, feminists whatever were, and he rebranded to another thing, then another thing, then another thing later. He became an easy target to bash on for writers just do to …
/r/ExRedPill31/03/26 01:00 AM
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So red pill came out years before the pandemic. The world was different then. Strangers approached each other at night clubs more. Even women approached more. Sometimes it was to pick up, sometimes people really just wanted more friends, sometimes, people just wanted to hear interesting stories from other people. People were allowed to be messier, dumber, less refined, and most importantly, more human. Because deep down, we are all flawed, and that's ok. Fast forward to post pandemic: Younger fo…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/26 12:30 AM
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Redpill marketing is based on the dance of telling guys partially what they want to hear and why they are better than women, but also telling guys that they are not good enough for women and need the redpill and can never just move on from redpill and be happy, and mixing these up enough to keep guys on the line and keep them coming back.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/26 12:05 AM
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First: Why does having female friends bother you? Do they say things that make you feel valued? Second: Have you asked anyone out in the past two years? On a date, a communicated date or well implied date.
/r/ExRedPill28/03/26 07:00 AM
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Two years ago, did he seem to only follow politics that had to do with hurting or "owning" other people with zero benefit to himself?
/r/ExRedPill28/03/26 06:58 AM
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try not to take redpill pseudoscience too seriously.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/26 02:28 AM
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It doesn't aound like a tactic, it sounds like he is reckless. Redpillers did not invent FWB. Not every annoying , playerish, trying to get laid, or even indecisive behavior is reckless. There are also some guys that simply do not say what they want, have not decided, or just do not have follow through habits. If you keep talking to him, actually ask him what he wants. Not every guy that flirts just wants sex. Previous generations before gen z flirted a lot, even with people they wanted nothing …
/r/ExRedPill22/03/26 06:59 AM
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It's called "lying online to an audience that does not understand how easy it is to lie online". These are influencers. They lie about success. I have hung out with PUAs and redpillers in person; I can tell you that the "true believers" really do not get laid often. Most redpill influencers on youtube do not really believe in the YouTube, it's about getting clicks for advertisement money and selling things. What, you think these guys are currently having sex while filming their videos claiming t…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/26 10:54 PM
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Oh yeah, a third and big one I forgot: The redpill advertises on being about being successful with women. Them most of the time, it's just whining and complaining about women. There is no offramp. Even if someone does well despite the redpill's crappy advice, and a guy gets married, the redpill makes sure he is not allowed to be happy. There is still redpill content to make the guy feel doom over his head 24/7. There is no offramp from the redpill and that is by design.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/26 09:26 PM
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The two main ways: 1 Redpill guys claim this is about male empowerment. Then they just obsess and whine over women, making their entire existence about women. Both desperately thirsting over and fearing women. 2 A lot of redpill guys, while claiming to be about men's rights, due to way too much altright overlap, tend to oppose any situation in which nonwhite men get rights. The other non alt right redpill guys tend to not say anything, not even a simple "Hey, we're about men's rights, maybe it s…
/r/ExRedPill16/03/26 09:13 PM
1

You want an essay or a url to past posts on this subreddit?
/r/ExRedPill15/03/26 10:47 PM
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I don't know anything about Clav, but Fuentes is a white nationalist leader, not a dating coach. His whole job is to be racist. He should have been left in obscurity but he gained clout because Trump was inviting him to events.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/26 08:10 PM
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Paying the cost of living, rising food prices, rising everything prices, wartime that came out of nothing, racist fearmongering, socially navigating their aquaintances when some of them support that stuff happening.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/26 06:48 PM
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Red pill already declined. It peaked during the election by riding on riled up coat tails and gender war nonsense. People are getting fatigued of that already. However, what also will take longer is dismantling the lingo from young people. OK, lets take PUA stuff as an older example: most people that heard of PUA stuff really have no idea how bizarre it gets, but they have all heard of negs, but have no idea of the context that PUA is a scam.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/26 06:45 PM
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Sometimes, writing stuff down is helpful. And you should straight up read what you just wrote down. Look, the general rule: treat as well as you want to be treated. First, get the redpill teachings out of your head. The great observation of redpill: it is designed so there is no offramp. Even when a guy is in a relationship, the redpill convinces him he is not allowed to be happy. While you should not put women on a pedestal, treating women how you would want to be treated is not putting them on…
/r/ExRedPill10/03/26 11:20 PM
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I would rather ask why you hide your post history.
/r/ExRedPill07/03/26 11:00 PM
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First thing: Stop calling it cold approach. You are not there to sell them stuff. The fact that it's called "cold approach" is a huge red flag of the red pill. People used to pick up on each other a lot, it was fun, it was not seen as an industrial thing to do, it was acknowledged that people would get rejected a lot, and even walk away a lot. But framing it as "cold approach" just strips away all humanity and turns it into this uphill chore that no one wants to do. You see, 1 the redpill's meth…
/r/ExRedPill07/03/26 07:30 PM
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OK, here's a quick question: He claims this is about politics. Do his "political" views seem to only support things that actually hurt other people with zero benefit to himself?
/r/ExRedPill06/03/26 07:50 PM
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Go to a common date spot. There are ugly guys, broke guys, and ugly broke guys with dates. You will notice their dates are not instantly ditching them for better looking guys on the spot. Thus, your logic does not track.
/r/ExRedPill06/03/26 07:48 PM
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Do you have a link to your article with the claim, by the way?
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 04:42 PM
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The way to deconstruct it is that it sounds like a sales pitch with no off ramp. "You need us, the redpill because _____. By the way, instead of actual cures, here are more things to be mad at. Here are more. I know you came here to get laid, but we will not let you!" You see, redpill intentionally tries to make you less happy so you come back for a cure. If you stick with it, there will never be an offramp. That's why the redpill even tries to reframe marriage and relationships as horrible; So …
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 09:28 AM
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Redpill is mostly white in the US. Mostly because US's manosphere has a huge overlap with racist groups, and tends to play on white grievances. Any group can have misogyny, but the redpill is a lot more specific. The redpill's complete fear of women does not resonate with every hyper macho culture and subculture, even the ones with more misogyny. Imagine a bunch of ultra macho guys drinking beers and talking about doing lumberjack stuff or something, going on about drunken antics and womanizing;…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/26 09:20 AM
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Yes. I've been to PUA seminars. They're a scam. You see, a guy coaching people, charging thousands of dollars to do so, does not magically help them. The fact that you think that crap works is why those people make money. I've been surrounded by PUAs before. They repel women. Not because of some morality thing. But because their method simply does not work. They are taught to give a long annoying speech, to "display high value", to women umprompted. If the woman is polite enough to hear it out, …
/r/ExRedPill26/02/26 06:20 PM
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I guarantee you that he inflated that number. Also, PUA stuff does not really work. Just because a weird guy claims he slept with a lot of women does not mean he did.
/r/ExRedPill26/02/26 02:56 AM
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If you are happy, try not to sabotage yourself by looking for excuses to end it. You can not customize a person, you can not customize their past. Also, is it really a crisis or just something you are awkward with?
/r/ExRedPill26/02/26 12:33 AM
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I doubt it. Most of the guys who talk about "oh man, her body count" do so from behind a keyboard.
/r/ExRedPill25/02/26 12:53 AM
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Helpful for the "guru" to keep making money off bootcamps, for over $2000 per student per weekend, sure. For the students, probably not helpful. It kept business once it became obvious that RSD teachings are not as effective for meeting women for dates and/or sex as... well.. Just going up and talking to strangers and seeing who you vibe with. Before dating apps were a go-to thing, meeting strangers in public was just a normal part of life despite how complicated PUAs and RSD people tried to mak…
/r/ExRedPill25/02/26 12:15 AM
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OP is giving me father issues by going out for cigarettes and never returning.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 07:11 AM
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It sounds like he is farming grievances to torture himself with rather than getting his life together.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 06:31 AM
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I have never been to anything like that. I also don't know about your area, the demographics, local culture, etc. I have never seen ads for these events. If I went to 5 in a row and 5 were like that, I would unsubscribe to the source of it. If Instagram is giving you these ads and invites, you can click the 3 dots and select "not interested". If Instagram is providing nothing to enrich your life or make you happier, then just delete it.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/26 12:09 AM
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She was an individual and she happened to suck. That is what is true. I have met women that sucked and women that did not suck. I have met men that sucked and men did not suck.
/r/ExRedPill23/02/26 03:02 AM
3

OP went out for cigarettes and is never coming back.
/r/ExRedPill23/02/26 12:05 AM
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Are you simply turning down dates with them, or are you looping yourself into a cycle of rage over them? You can turn down dating anyone you want for any arbitrary reason, and you live with the results of that, not the rest of the world. But if you are torturing yourself getting mad over hypothetical promiscuous women, then this is another thing entirely.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/26 08:34 PM
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OK, first thing first: Dating apps suck! They always have. 1 There are way more men than women on those in a bizarrely high proportion. 2 Not all the women on dating apps are actually looking. 3 There are a lot of scam accounts on those apps. Weird to have a random "woman" trying to sell me cryptocurrency (assuming I would even get the crypto and the scammer will not just run off with the money) 4 It has been a while, but I remember a lot of accounts just trying to get you to add their instagram…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/26 12:20 AM
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Your english seems proficient enough to see the difference between "dominant" and "decisive".
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 11:36 PM
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Owen Cook? Of RSD? OK, keep these baselines in mind: 1 RSD does not work for attracting women. 2 RSD was so ineffective at getting women that it rebranded as male empowerment. 3 RSD was so ineffective at getting women that it taught the students that disrupting other men talking to women was a huge victory and was "alpha" behavior. Think of a chess strategy so bad that it changes to "look for other people playing chess that seem happy, then kick over their boards". Basically, an RSD student woul…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 09:09 PM
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"decisive" and "dominant" are two very different things. Changing definitions is just moving goal posts. Being reasonably decisive is simply way less annoying, and sure, less unattractive than than being "gee... I don't know" about everything, but that has nothing to do with being "dominant".
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 08:55 PM
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Redpill is around for making money. It's not supposed to be realistic. It's supposed to market to people, and there are a lot of people that can give adclicks or buy fitness supplements from redpill influeners over 25 and over 30.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 06:46 PM
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I am going to tear this apart right here: Redpill uses a lot of vague terms that "sound nice". OK, lets say "dominant man"; what even is that? Every time I met someone that learnedto be a "dominant man" TM from redpill or PUA, it's just an annoying nerd that comes off awkward, barking, getting nowhere, but patting himself on the back for it because redpill and PUA echo chambers reinforce it. These guys always talk about dating and sex like it's a far off dream awarded to a select few men, yet cl…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 06:44 PM
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Even that old "pickup artist" scheme was monetized, but without the loop of vague grievances. "pickup artist" was a scam that did not work for students; "Gurus" would sell bootcamps for over $1000 a weekend and students would be expected to return for another bootcamp. At some point, "pickup artist" classes became well known for being ineffective at teaching reliable ways to get anywhere with women, its one size fits all approach churning out guys that were noticeably awkward, strange, boring, o…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 06:37 PM
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Money from views, ad clicks, selling merchandise, and some sell fitness supplements. The influencers know it is BS. That is why when you see people preach the redpill, they try manipulative tactics that do not read like they believe their own BS.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 03:44 AM
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You don't know it's about influencers making money?
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 01:50 AM
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Have you ever seen cosmetic products that market to women by playing on insecurities, including creating new insecurities out of things no one payed attention to? That's how the redpill markets to men. Except once men get in it, it doubles down on the insecurities and grievances, making the guys feel more miserable and yet dependent, so there is no offramp.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/26 12:56 AM
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You can choose between sad comfort and engaged productivity. Both can be quit from too!
/r/ExRedPill17/02/26 05:42 AM
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You don't have to grind. Volunteer or something. Be honest here: does your mind go to the best places when you sit at home watching netflix?
/r/ExRedPill17/02/26 04:22 AM
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Wait, did you say you retired at 24? I do not give millionaires non sarcastic advice usually, but that is a recipe for spiraling into depression. Get a job, get something to go to every day, something you can look at stuff and say "cool, I accomplished something". Not to impress women, but for yourself. It's not even about the money.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/26 02:58 AM
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look. a reasonable amount of vulnerability is fine, and some individuals will warrant more than others. But don't trauma dump on anyone when the situation does not call for it, man or woman. Don't rely on a romantic partner to fix all your problems. That's it. Be careful of the online discourse that really stretches the scope of that. Also, just because a catchphrase sounds biting does not mean it deserves more weight, especially if it is worded as men vs women.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/26 04:38 AM
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2017 was definitely late to the PUA weirdness. So in 2016, RSD ,a PUA offshoot that was shadier and more hateful, hit internet news after the second coleader got banned from multiple countries. Because this hit internet news, without the context of "this is a scam and does not work and will make you lose friends", manosphere groups latched onto it. As a baseline note, PUA was always a scam, spread by people that were active in scams and that think in scammy ways. That's why the teachings are so …
/r/ExRedPill14/02/26 12:21 AM
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Apparently he came up before and this is all I know about him. https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/s/r9GzJiPsUb
/r/ExRedPill13/02/26 11:40 PM
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Ironically, that post WWII ideal came from a mix of mass production of cheap homes and regular jobs being able to afford those homes. A person could work a single regular job in their early 20s and buy a home. Now, there are people with 2 or 3 jobs barely getting by. No one in power wants to admit that housing+real estate market exploitation is what killed that era. Those fast marriages [even with the spike in fast divorces] were facilitated because people knew without a doubt that they could sl…
/r/ExRedPill13/02/26 06:50 PM
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Gender war garbage got propped up leading to the 2024 election. The right used it to recruit people, and then online spaces on the left fed into it. That's why redpill started dying out last year once the election was out of sight. There was a reinforcing loop: People on the right used manosphere spaces to recruit, and thus promoted it. Manosphere influencers+grifters saw people to click ads and buy merchandise, and thus those manosphere influencers+grifters rode those coattails like a rodeo hor…
/r/ExRedPill13/02/26 06:45 PM
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They're keyboard warriors. Also, roots of manosphere garbage have been around since the 2000s. There are also people that used to believe in pickup artist garbage and never grew up nor figured out it was a scam. It was a scam that did not work, but gurus charged thousands of dollars for bootcamps and encouraged students to take repeat bootcamps. There are also guys out there that never do anything particularly macho, but want to live some macho fantasy persona by latching onto this. So instead o…
/r/ExRedPill13/02/26 06:20 PM
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This should be stickied. Your whole post spelled it out. The experience, the weird power fantasy, the detachment from how people should act towards each other, and the fact that these people think they should be pat on the back for talking about working out.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/26 11:21 PM
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First: Stop consuming redpill content. It exacerbates depression in men too. It's made to be shocking and depressing on purpose to keep people coming back. Second: See the first one. Third: Executive dysfunction might be the term you are looking for, and you might have heard your therapist use that term. It's not easy. Every friend of mine with depression that got into some kind of habit of physical activity seemed to do better afterwards. Fourth: It's ok to look 24 and older. You look like a yo…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/26 07:25 AM
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The redpill always broke its own rules, even from the described rules, once the whole movement became about obsessing over women. Despite the "alpha male" sales pitch, the entire identity and priority was grievances over women. Even good ideas, like working out, were reframed to be about impressing women instead of feeling better.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/26 01:17 AM
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Caring about that is impractical and will likely give you a worse outcome. However, no one is really going to stop you from simply not dating some other individuals for any reason, no matter how arbitrary.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/26 09:53 PM
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To note, the term "dating coach" is a red flag. How do we know you are not just looking for redpill sources to emulate?
/r/ExRedPill05/02/26 08:12 PM
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People under 21 do not like to hear this, but that was the kind of relationship you mature out of being in. Look, the dating problems you have at age 19 are not the same kind at age 23. Also, your ex is cringe.
/r/ExRedPill04/02/26 02:40 AM
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It depends who. But I suspect someone will cite something shocking, clickbaity, and gender war filled. What gets the most clicks online is often just what shocks the most.
/r/ExRedPill27/01/26 08:35 PM
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The fact that there is no offramp. It draws you in pretending it has solutions. And once you are in, it just throws angry hope killing rhetoric to break you and keep you coming back out of dependency. There is no point in whoch it tells you to be happy. If you meet someone you want to settle down with, redpill will try to convince you she will leave you for someone richer. The point is to make sure you and other readers are always coming back. Happy people do not come back.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/26 10:53 PM
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Because the red pill does not work. "I have gas. Why shouldn't I drink cooking oil?"
/r/ExRedPill25/01/26 08:59 PM
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"...competing motivational demands in the private sphere.....such subjugation is actually indicative of insufficient 'intrapsychic' oranization...." Buddy, the wording is intentionally inflated to sound deeper than it really is. The passage just says that what works in one situation might not work in another, and that might even include value systems, and that morality is built as something that works the most, but conflict with others is still unavoidable because a lot of needs may need coopora…
/r/ExRedPill24/01/26 03:35 AM
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Are you trolling or serious? Jordan Peterson is a joke. He just uses performative backgrounds, some buzzwords, and no actual substance. He will make claims about being responsible, which is nice and all. Oh hey, you over there, be responsible; wow! I'm an expert now!
/r/ExRedPill24/01/26 12:03 AM
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I am not going to call this "oneitis" or any magic word. It sounds like you were I a relationship with someone that got worse and worse, and the momentum, being way too deep in it, and the constant cycle of intensity obscured the problems to you.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/26 09:34 PM
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For anyone, of any gender, being attractive, charismaric, or just overall appealing gives a certain amount of leeway, not a 100% free pass for everyone. Don't be texting in a panicked way if she does not respond to the previous text message within a day. Just don't.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/26 10:13 AM
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Yes, you decoded it, jealousy of other men has been ingrained in the manosphere for over a decade, is engrained in redpill, and is even the backbone of RSD and some of these other weird manosphere ideologies. The word "chad" was originally used as an insult, along with "tyrone" and "javier".
/r/ExRedPill09/01/26 06:45 PM
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On one couple, rhe husband has cancer. There is another with a retired husband. There are two in which the economy hit the guys' jobs in 2025.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/26 11:26 PM
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Yes. I know a few. I can think of some specific individuals off the top of my head within a few seconds.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/26 10:44 PM
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Before you do this, brief yourself, shield yourself, and keep yourself knowing that manosphere preachers tend to word things to push the most emotional buttons as possible, especially when making you angry over nothing
/r/ExRedPill06/01/26 01:30 AM
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These pipelines know how to push the right buttons. A lot of us have been there. In the future, do better for yourself. Learn that if someone says things to weaponize your grievances, they probably have no solutions or offramp for you to give them up.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/26 11:32 PM
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Is there more to the picture? I am not justifying either of your positions. Relationships are straight up harder to look at from the outside since we don't know all the variables.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/25 12:12 AM
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This brings up a broader question of how much checking out other people is ok, how much is ok while in a relationship , how much is ok in front of a partner, etc. And people, apply the same standards to men and women. Be honest of what's screwing up clumsily in the moment and what is being actively scoping.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/25 12:10 AM
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Stop calling it "cold approach". That is a grifter's way of breaking this down to pseudo technical malarkey and stripping it of any humanity. It is ok to meet strangers and flirt, or even pick up on strangers. Previous generations, not glued to their phones, did this a lot, especially put of boredom. Gen Z is just so social media obsessed and risk averse that putting the phone down to meet someone sounds bizarre.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/25 09:09 PM
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What is your age range? Relations before 25 are way more volatile, especially 18 to 20.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/25 09:03 PM
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You can't fix her. But she also can not really influence anyone else. If you both are talking to each other, that is as good as it gets. Don't try to fix her, redeem her, or save her soul. And I get it: I have seen a dying family member torture himself. Because these beliefs are always "what intangible thing, that actually does not affect most people, should you be irrationally mad at today?" And you always hope that family member would find some peace.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/25 11:39 PM
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The manosphere weirdos come to preach, not to argue.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/25 01:55 AM
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Try to understand the mindsets, habits, and lives of the people before they got onto this stuff. That is what I consistently see ignored by various grad students, writers, etc looking for people to interview. Sometimes, it is different from what they, themselves, think it is.
/r/ExRedPill03/12/25 04:16 AM
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How old are you and where did the mindset really come from? Is it from people being assholes in high school from a divorce, or from online echo chambers?
/r/ExRedPill27/11/25 08:52 PM
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We don't want to give these people traffic. some members are also avoiding relapsing.
/r/ExRedPill25/11/25 06:49 PM
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Folks, OP is trolling. Notice the loop traps in every reply.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 10:01 PM
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You are trying to trap me into a loop. You brought onlyfans in when we talked about real life, then you pretended to be concerned about real life when I addressed your claim about onlyfans. If I bring up real life, you will shift back to onlyfans or something just as absurd.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:39 PM
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Onlyfans is not real life. That is for money. Touch grass.
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:11 PM
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are you trolling?
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 06:46 AM
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Are the thin man and heavy woman having sex in front of you? If not, then they are "dating". That is a clear distinction. They are on a date. Maybe they are in a relationship. Maybe they like each other. It is not all about sex. People in a relationship are not constantly thinking about sex while out having a good time with each other.Their sex life is not your concern. So blackpill thinking tries to turn everything into a cynical transactional frame, even to a point of horror. But by doing so, …
/r/ExRedPill24/11/25 03:16 AM
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Most women do not care, especially if you are both under 23. That woman you were dating was just an asshole. Being young is the time when most people kind of brush off insignificant things, minor cringy moments, etc. None of you are expected to have your act together.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:37 PM
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You got banned from purple pill debate? That whole subreddit exists just to "just askinging questions" launder in redpill and try to normalize it. Congratulations! But besides that, there are simply more men comfortable with, and looking for, casual sex with strangers than women comfortable with, and looking for, casual sex with strangers.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:30 PM
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yes. he could just pay $20 to 100 to appear. Clicks are revenue. Bootcamps cost over $1000 per student, some over $2000. There is a budget for these things. Some of these gurus even rent offices or auditoriums to give lectures at. The overly convenient camera angle is a giveaway.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 11:01 PM
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My takeaways since my time as a PUA student, that can apply to any organization with a loudmouthed leader making big claims, and you might find this in other places: 1 distrust organizations with a loudmouthed leader making big claims. He has practiced looking convincing. This is just sales. He does not really believe his product works. He just wants money, power, etc. 2 Do not trust anyone that recruits with grievances. Just because he magnificies grievances does not mean he can, or intends to,…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 09:40 PM
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I was briefly a sucker for it years ago. Now, I can safely say they are all a scam. They talk big and make huge claims, and those claims are all fiction. If you see a video in which these guys are supposedly picking up women, but it is being recorded, with a good camera angle and where someone can obviously see a camera, it is staged. These guys hire actors for videos sometimes. I have been to bars with PUAs. They are not successful with women. The guys will give long boring annoying speeches, t…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/25 09:28 PM
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Grifter that uses shock value and dramatic wording to stretch the hell out of pseudoscience. He has no real insight on evolutionary psychology. He makes a vague reference to something, then claims it supports something completely unrelated. Anyone that uses grievances to keep you and keep you engaged will not help you. It just pushes you further into despair and sunken cost bias.
/r/ExRedPill21/11/25 02:07 AM
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I assume a big part of the population realized that people that recruit with grievances tend to be useless at solving anything.
/r/ExRedPill19/11/25 06:14 PM
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Easier than ever? Bullshit. It was easier to hook up years before instagram was ever invented. Also, what does hooking up have to do with the red pill?
/r/ExRedPill19/11/25 06:12 PM
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when you say you "always get rejected". share some stories and the setting. I was sometimes told yes and sometimes told no at 20. But it was a different time; dating sites (now apps) were seen as a last resort for losers and weirdos. we actually talked on the phone and enjoyed each other's voices. We met in person. We got out more because getting out felt cheaper at the time than it does for 20 year olds now. We did not have a cultural political gremlin telling everyone that they have political …
/r/ExRedPill16/11/25 03:41 AM
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redpill tries selling a fantasy, especially to people with money to buy ebooks. the idea is "stick with us, it's not too late to date a 20 year old when you are 30 and we will make them flock go you". then, once you are engaged, notice how it pivots to "women can never love or attach to you and will always leave you if they even notice you instead of a chad, so stick with us and here are more grievances to shock and depress you so you stay engaged. There are advantages at 30, but most women arou…
/r/ExRedPill16/11/25 03:33 AM
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To be blunt, pacing is a hard thing to get the hang of, especially in this text message heavy world where you can get your fix of sweet nothings, or cringy reads, without having to see each other. also on redpill, redpill is not designed to work. redpill is designed so that you always feel reliant on coming back to it. It is a system that uses your grievances against you without actually solving them. Unlike a lot of people here, I have met redpillers in person: it makes them ooze desperation in…
/r/ExRedPill12/11/25 09:21 PM
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a lot of survivalist crap makes the assumption that humans survived by being solo and regarding each other as enemies, constantly ready and willing to kill each other for resources. However, humans formed tribes very early on. tribes often traded with each other and made alliances and treaties for mutual survival early on. If you want to learn to grow and preserve your own food as a hobby, that's fine. Shooting guns at a gun range is fine. But avoid the conflict framing that some of these surviv…
/r/ExRedPill12/11/25 09:17 PM
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We are fine with helping a guy out without a sales pitch.
/r/ExRedPill03/11/25 05:59 AM
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Lack of social outlets that humanize people.
/r/ExRedPill03/11/25 03:46 AM
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Practice your speech when you are alone. Sing along to the car stereo. It helps. There is research that shows it helps. Listen to something easy to sing along to. Get used to exaggerating your words while singing. Get used to pacing breathing.
/r/ExRedPill03/11/25 03:43 AM
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I am not from ireland. I still do not even understand how redpill survives outside of the US. It really contradicts most countries' ideas of "macho". traditional idealized images of macho: a lumberjack, a warrior, a guy with an unkept beard that seems happy to get his hands dirty in working or saving people. man of the community. redpill idea of masculinity: mostly online guy complaining about women, making this his whole identity, and obsessing over how to get women while fearing them.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/25 10:01 PM
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"status"? how TF is someone even supposed to figure out your "status"? I heard the pitch years ago, "status" was just used as "you need our teaching for some reason and here is something to be insecure about so you stay" by pickup artist scammers and then redpill scammers. Get it out of your head. No one has a status meter over their head.
/r/ExRedPill31/10/25 06:26 AM
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Not all women are the same. Not all women want the same thing. I have met plenty of women that seemed to date exclusively broke men.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/25 04:08 AM
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If it ever comes up, remember: redpillers are mostly constantly online losers that talk big. Influencers are full of shit and exagerate success for clicks. Redpill influencers will try selling a hokey performative version of masculinity, that is meant to appeal to weak men. That is why rather than going out and doing macho stuff, it is mainly just about hating and fearing women, then congratulating themselves about it.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/25 05:54 PM
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If someone baits you in by trying to spund as shocking and emotionally charged as possible, inflating problems, then claims to have the fix, they are a scammer. If you see people have been in this for a year with no life improvement, then it is a scam. If there is no assumption of ever offboarding, that is a red flag. If the group tries to use group dynamics to peer pressure you into staying, that is a red flag. If the guys seem to repel women when you see them in person, despite their online cl…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/25 05:22 PM
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Anyone that promises to have all the answers is a fraudster.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/25 05:20 PM
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Perspective from after a certain age: the normalization of dating apps is weird as hell. Dating sites/apps always sucked, and encouraged people to be their worst selves, even when dating sites/apps were used by a smaller percent of the population . Ghosting, perverts, scary people, secretly married people, etc were well known about on dating sites/apps, and it was common to meet in public rather than have one person pick up the other at home if you used a dating site to meet someone. Afterall, y…
/r/ExRedPill17/10/25 07:12 PM
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You are not responsible for making your parents happy. Know when to just say , "Well, his problem, not mine".
/r/ExRedPill16/10/25 08:18 PM
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when you see it in suggested content, right click the icon and select "not interested". Keep doing this until your suggested content gets the hint. Also, you are in Brazil. The redpill is beyond useless to you. It was a scam marketed to american guys that are constantly online. As you notice, it says a lot of things to make you scared of women, yet promises to help you get women. You see how these are mutually incompatible, right? Besides, Brazil has a different dating culture than the US. Brazi…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/25 03:27 AM
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By the way, what kind of weird workplace has everyone thirsting over each other?
/r/ExRedPill14/10/25 12:35 AM
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As you noticed, this goes way past redpill "not alpha enough" scripts into actual normal relationship problems. No one ever wants to hear this: But you are better off ghosting her to the greatest degree possible. It does not sound like you kept some post relationship friendship, nor does it sound like she put any maintenance into your feelings on this. I roll my eyes at the term "pretty girl game", unless you live in an area where pretty women are rare; but regardless, pretty, ugly, whatever, if…
/r/ExRedPill13/10/25 07:34 PM
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I am not going to click that, but I am going to be honest; stop looking for a dating deacon. I get you want a virtual mentor, but most of these online dating coach whatever influencers are scammers. This is incentivized by the clicks and adspace, not by lives improved. People with improved pives do not come back and keep clicking.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/25 06:40 PM
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Does he have any views on doing any good for anyone at all or all they all about crushing others in ways that do not even help him?
/r/ExRedPill12/10/25 06:38 PM
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because it is a grift that grasps at straws.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/25 06:33 PM
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If you don't live with him, let it go. You can't fix him. Still visit on Thanksgiving. But his happiness is his responsibility. That's something we all have to accept.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/25 01:57 PM
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tell us about the crowds you hang out in . I personally suggest against baggy clothes, but some subcultures like them. keep in mind where you hang out too. I recommend against stuff that looks old and faded, but once again, some subcultures love that stuff. Keep from wearing shoes that are way too beaten up. be honest when shoes look too beaten up.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/25 04:06 PM
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ok
/r/ExRedPill03/10/25 07:15 PM
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Both men and women in the US are having less sex. Generation Z, in particular, is found to have way less sex than previous generations. There are a ton of clickbait articles speculating why. https://www.newsweek.com/americans-having-less-sex-birth-rate-decline-young-people-2122560
/r/ExRedPill03/10/25 07:15 PM
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Why do you want to give him headspace instead of just walking away?
/r/ExRedPill02/10/25 06:52 PM
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It really depends on your age. There are things fun to wear at 19 that will not translate well to 30.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/25 12:09 AM
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He is just going to respond in angsty vague posting which is impossible to engage with. Either a troll or someone using an immature defense mechanism. "All ducks hate all geese, prove me wrong."
/r/ExRedPill23/09/25 01:05 AM
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He is a gamergater? Not every misogynist is inherently redpill. But one weird pattern you will find about this flavor or misogyny in some gamers: He really stresses himself the fuck out worrying about nothing. This stuff gets spread online and tends to be intentionally worded in a way to get attention.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/25 05:07 PM
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Culture. Culture is big. You mentioned research with different results, and that research likely comes from a single culture. To get a big picture on how different cultures can be when it comes to this, there are cultures with arranged marriage for some or most people, and even other societal factors, such qs social class and religion, to limit who people are even allowed to marry in aome cultures. Even the concept of "dating" is new to some cultures .
/r/ExRedPill17/09/25 05:04 PM
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No means no. You set a boundary. Redpill or no redpill, he crossed that.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/25 05:59 PM
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I notice a common thread among young people in redpill, both men and women, is some feeling of finality and "life is over" at ages that people of my generation were busy doing keg stands in.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/25 05:50 PM
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I get you. Some women only date within their very specific subcultures. Meet people elsewhere; not just for dating, but out yourself into situations where you have to interact with people. Not just for your own charisma, but it lets you see non goth/non alt women as individuals with diverse interests. It is more about getting yourself in different habits, breaking out of having too stringent a "type" in this case.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/25 05:46 PM
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Expand your social circle. You have way more options than you realize. I get that dating at 21 is awkward since you and the people around you have a lot of room to mature. Also, get to know more women platonically, it makes it easier to date once you get used to humanizing women and ceasing to see them on a pedestal. If you are constantly online and not meeting a lot of people, acknowledge it to yourself, and acknowledge that it may skew your perception. If you are going through a depression, ac…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/25 06:22 PM
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metoo was way back in 2017/2018. It's over now. It blew over. Get on with life. Racism happens, especially on dating apps. But it is not going to be solved with the redpill or manosphere, both being sources of constantly online white guy angst. The redpill and manosphere do not even see racism as a problem; have you noticed that redpill teachings never address racism against nonwhite guys, instead trying to teach a one-size-fits-all angst fest? I am not white. I have my hurdles. A challenge is m…
/r/ExRedPill11/09/25 01:10 AM
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At 35, small percent. A guy that believes in it past 30 and spouts the lingo is often seen as weirdo or a downer. Unless he is right wing and hangs out with right wing guys. But even if the guy is not redpill, pick a guy that makes you happy. And do not make race a factor if using apps.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/25 05:12 AM
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He has to want to get out of the redpill. If he is believing those initial redpill promises that he will get a 20 year old virgin while he is in his 30s, and getting put into the redpill pipeline that leads to "you are not good enough for any woman, they will all leave you for a rich guy or chad, but you need our advice anyways and here are more reasons to be angry and depressed", then.... I would not have high hopes. If anything, plan some outings without him because redpillers are huge cock bl…
/r/ExRedPill08/09/25 05:59 PM
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A guy took two parking spots in the shade the other day during a hot day. Do I have to assume the worst from all guys? It sounds like you were rejected by a woman that you barely know and have zero emotional investment in, and it sounds like she was a troll. Look, you can do two good ideas: shrug it off and move on, or come to terms with "she is a horrible person, time to move on". If she laughs at a guy for asking her out, I guarantee she would not have made you happy anyways. Move on, and unde…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/25 08:29 PM
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This is harder if you are an introvert: but you have to meet people in relationships, know them for a while, and see what works for other people and what does not work. If you see a situation where one or both people are living in fear and constant worry in dealing with the other, or percieved an adversarial situation, this is not a good relationship. If you see a situation in which they are supportive of each other, even in bad health and temporary job loss, this is a good relationship. Keep th…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/25 12:09 AM
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Trans people have things way worse. Their situation is not a toy to try because it looks convenient. Also, most of society is not redpillers. While redpill spaces try to normalize the redpill, redpill gets seen as interchangeable with "incel" outside redpill spaces.
/r/ExRedPill27/08/25 06:58 PM
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So redpill content tends ro be tailored to get you spinning your wheels in rage. It has a tone to bait you in, but then make you angrier and angrier, especially about women,as you keep reading. It is intentional.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/25 07:40 PM
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I have literally never seen a person embracing redpill stuff and winning. Redpillers I met in person were just being annoying, thirsty, and desperate. I have met redpillers in person. They are pathetic. James Bond has nothing to do with redpill. "Bad boy" types have nothing to do with the redpill. Redpill is a scam. Part of their marketing is claiming that random cool looking things have anything to do with them. Movie characters are fun fantasy archetypes that work in the kind of stories. Do no…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/25 05:18 PM
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then live life wild
/r/ExRedPill19/08/25 02:22 PM
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Here is the logic: "The term alpha male exists, which is absolute proof that my bootcamp will turn you into an alpha male for a few thousand dollars". Manosphere, incels, redpill, etc grasp to any straw they find
/r/ExRedPill19/08/25 02:19 PM
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You have inspired me to downvote any claim of statistics without a source.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/25 02:09 AM
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That framing as being granted the right to sex/reproduction is gross. You can do anything you want with your hand. No one has to join you in it.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/25 02:06 AM
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Show us where you got those statistics from. duh. If you did not make it up as bait, which seems really easy given some of the replies, give us your source. But nope, OP threw random numbers and fled. I googled those particular statistics and did not find any that matched them.
/r/ExRedPill17/08/25 02:48 AM
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Also, detach emotionally from dating apps. Dating apps suck. If you use one, don't rely on it. There are way more men than women on those, and among women, they are not all serious about being on there. And dating apps/sites are even weirder than when I was young, and they sucked even then. Do not think of any rando on a dating site as "the one" until you are going out for a while. If you have other avenues of meeting women, you are better off. Do not invest your self worth on dating sites. Do n…
/r/ExRedPill15/08/25 06:35 PM
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In general, and I know some people have anxiety, but you have to not put someone on a pedestal or think of this as "the one shot with any woman". It will make you overthink texts, and even make you hesitate excessively long. You will be too busy trying to impress her instead of enjoying her company. This will hold you back. t will make you commit too much emotional space to the outcome If she doesn't text back, hey, this is someone you don't really know very well. You don't know what she is like…
/r/ExRedPill15/08/25 06:31 PM
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If you are trying to get people still in or freshly out of the red pill, you may have to alter your pitch to get people to take the survey. Keep in mind that most of them do not realize they are equated with incels. They tend to be in denial and think they are "alpha males" due to spending so much time in front of a screen watching stupid podcasts.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/25 11:59 PM
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ok, if you live in a tech heavy area, that is mostly men, this is something you need to accept: Your city is weird and people in other areas act totally different from there as a baseline, less likely to spew out a resume upon talking, less likely to act like women are completely rare, and more likely to actually enjoy other human beings.
/r/ExRedPill10/08/25 08:34 PM
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You are just 21. You don't have to find the love of your life. Avoid putting pressure on yourself. If you were not feeling it with her, that's ok, you don't have to keep dating her. There is no girlfriend quota or girlfriend requirement.
/r/ExRedPill08/08/25 05:04 PM
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Do not mix politics and dating. Take ideology out of it. People of any gender can be awful. Try not to think in terms of "the girl", there are others. Do not put anyone on a pedestal. Get to know them as an individual, not as a placeholder or girlfriend quota. You will never meet anyone from the safety of your computer, you have to get out and meet people. And in doing so, do not treat "get a girlfriend" as an endgoal or it is less likely to happen. Also, copy pasting from another reply of mine:…
/r/ExRedPill07/08/25 11:49 PM
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Far right culture war propaganda and misinformation schizoposting blogs disguised as conspiracy theories, written with the writing style as if it is given normal fact.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/25 09:37 PM
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Is there any context to this? What "actions" is he talking about? what "consequences" is he talking about? Also, going on Rumble is a big red flag.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/25 07:42 PM
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because influencers send pictures taken with bar staff and prostitutes, then claim to be surrounded by women throwing themselves at them.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/25 07:39 PM
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the limit of people on the internet, no matter the ideology or mindset: no one can tell your personality, how you come off, etc. The most I can tell you: hang out in groups, see how people act. Seek hobbies. Don't look down on people for being "normies" or whatever internet slang is in. Also, it is way harder to appeal to women when you make a huge priority of appealing to women. It is a complicated difference between at peace with yourself vs validation seeking.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/25 05:11 AM
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copy pasting my old reply. I am also going to add: racism and culture war garbage. It became very obvious that the redpill pushers were scammers. Also, I like having sex, and the redpill became an obvious barrier to that.
/r/ExRedPill05/08/25 07:34 PM
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Analyze ideas, not tribal labels. Stop treating everything as a binary.
/r/ExRedPill05/08/25 07:01 PM
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You should probably get some racially diverse opinions and make a version, with the same questions, in which you try not to frame specific opinions under a banner of "pro feminist" or "anti feminist". You can ask the same question without tribal labels, and it might even affect the results.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/25 08:46 PM
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You should really specify as to what you mean by feminist positions. If you go online, you run a spectrum of "live, let live, equal rights for all" to "men are our enemy". Also, specify a bit more clearly if by "pro feminist", you mean as in agreeing with the ideas or as in being ok talking to feminists.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/25 06:57 PM
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I am past my 20s and I can tell you this: What you want from a partner later in life is not the same as what you wanted at 25. There is a point when you want someone you can have a chill life with, and not constantly e chasing parties and excitement. You want someone that you assume is not currently hungover.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/25 02:54 AM
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I am not white. The redpill has nothing for you. Guys join, then they spend years whining that women are these scary creatures out to hurt them. The redpill teaches that it is one size fits all. It barely even acknowledges that racial bias against nonwhite men exists. In fact, a lot of the redpillers are also alt right. The redpill does not help you get women. It just claims to at first, then once you get in, it keeps you in with ragebait so you will click their links for ad ravenue and buy thei…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/25 02:19 AM
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OIC. Your original post reminded me of polarized thoughts, common in people with depression. It expressed itself as "everyone likes me" vs "no one will ever love me". I can give you the rational explanation, you are 21 and dating is complicated and very trial and error at that age, but the good side being that you have more way more leeway for cringe and dysfunction than you do at 30. I would also tell you to stop comparing yourself to other guys, and to stop thinking of women as something to ac…
/r/ExRedPill01/08/25 11:01 PM
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Wait, women with ED? Also, you might have depression.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/25 05:52 PM
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If anything, getting in shape and dressing better, but anyone can do that, anyone can tell you to do that, redpill did not invent that, any idiot can tell you to do that, and not all redpillers do that, possibly most do not, even thoug many like to go all keyboard warrior and claim they do that. Redpill says not to obsess over women, but more than 95% of redpill is obsessing over women, and most of redpill discourse is treating rejection, or perceived rejection, as identity.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/25 07:40 PM
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Its that time of the week to answer this again, just copy pasting my reply from last time. "That 80-20 thing is a misquote of Pareto Principle, a philosophical concept that 80 percent of outcomes are caused by 20 percent of causes. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/1/80-20-rule.asp " It was highjacked by bad dating advice grifters.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/25 10:41 PM
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I both want to say that is an absurd jump in logic and the tea app is toxic for completely unrelated reasons instead, but I also want to congratulate you on top tier bait, peak bait even. There will never be bait of this level on reddit again.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/25 11:29 PM
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A lot of the incel thing was pushed at a time of heavy alt right trolling. Also, a lot of guys that hate women also tend to hate anyone they can find to hate, including other men of different race, religion, diet, etc. A lot of the online discourse revolves around "look what they took from you". And yes, it was heavily politicized to get votes for a particular candidate as well as alt right recruitment.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/25 05:25 PM
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The redpill's version of working on yourself is not really working on yourself. It constantly baits you with rage and fear of women so you can never just relax when talking to a woman. That is not working on yourself. Working out is good. But being fed a constant chip on your shoulder is not. Look at the convenience in the narrative: "only the top percent of men get any women at all, and we provide all those men despite the fact that you never meet a redpiller that is actually good with women in…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/25 05:21 PM
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You keep framing this as competing with other guys. That will hold you back if you continue it. Meet a bunch of people. See who you vibe with. Don't doom yourself at just 21. If you are depressed in general, come to terms with it and be honest to yourself. It is actually harder to meet women to date while depressed, even though the internet does not really stress it much.
/r/ExRedPill27/07/25 06:27 AM
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I am non white, and I will be honest here: you will encounter some people that suck in a very specific way, and your white peers will never know that person sucks in that very specific way. It is unfortunately something to live with. However, focus on people that do not suck in that very specific way. I am not excusing them. But for yourself, you have to force yourself to move on from them. As for everything else: college aged people are weird drama. Some of the drama of today will seem bizarre …
/r/ExRedPill26/07/25 11:40 PM
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the guy looks and talks he just ate gum from under a desk. What is the point of humoring him?
/r/ExRedPill22/07/25 05:46 AM
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Close that door. Lock the hell out of that door. He left it like that on purpose to give you anxiety and make you pine for him so he can return. But seriously, don't answer his messages. Block him on everything. Let his parents bail daddy's boy out of whatever his problems are. Let his entitled ass rot. All he has going for him is his parents' money.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/25 05:22 PM
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Its that time of the week to answer this again, just copy pasting my reply from last time. "That 80-20 thing is a misquote of Pareto Principle, a philosophical concept that 80 percent of outcomes are caused by 20 percent of causes. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/1/80-20-rule.asp " It was highjacked by bad dating advice grifters.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/25 05:17 PM
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first: stop calling it "cold approach". You are not trying to sell her things. That is a term detached from the reality and humanity of just introducing yourself to a woman, talking, and seeing how it goes. Get out of the reddit mindset that redpillers and PUAs invented just going up to women to meet them, and drop the assumption that a system is required. As for seeming needy, what kind of feedback or self monitoring makes you think you may come off like it? Are you feeling too approval seeking…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/25 04:33 AM
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That is another reason to move on from him. We are not going to validate you going back to a bad option.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/25 05:22 AM
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You stop talking to him. This is an option. If you are worried about the other girl, occasionally offer her to join you somewhere, to give her an option of an out. If he is not intentionally doing dread game, but is just a manipulative abusive asshole, then my first paragraph still applies.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/25 11:54 PM
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it's reddit. reddit is not indicative of the population. Reddit has a higher percent of bitter angry hateful people than you would normally find.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/25 12:10 AM
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The whole "pickup" internet dating advice industry got over saturated by Mystery and Ross Jeffries, who were both a lame scam, and the whole industry got even more saturated with their copycats. In fact, if someone gave normal, functional advice on how to be an attractive man with a self fulfilling life and happiness, it would either be drowned out or constantly bashed by the rest of that industry. The whole pickup advice industry got filled by scammers marketing a power fantasy, isolated from r…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/25 09:13 PM
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most of it is a scam. there is no 1 true magic bullet. A lot of these are not tailored to work, they are tailored to market to inexperienced men.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/25 06:34 PM
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I get that. I have been through these rodeos. Sometimes, they act shocked after a few dates that the stereotypes don't apply. Sometimes, their friends or family get weird about race.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/25 06:48 PM
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These are not evolutionary paychologists, these are random redditers. That 80-20 thing is a misquote of Pareto Principle, a philosophical concept that 80 percent of outcomes are caused by 20 percent of causes. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/1/80-20-rule.asp
/r/ExRedPill07/07/25 04:52 AM
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I am a man, nonwhite. There are some people to give up on talking to, someone that act like their worldview was shaken when I answered in american accented english when I was asked if I speak english. I will not give too much details on which race I am. There are some people out there that treat this as a deal breaker, and it is more than the white people on this subreddit realize. But... part of life is filtering out the people that treat it as a deal breaker. And yes, if you have relatives tha…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/25 06:32 PM
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lets give an age range and a bit more lifetyle context, like where you are meeting these women. There is a different experience between meeting the women that are daily regulars at a cheap bar in a party town and the women basically everywhere else, for example.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/25 05:38 PM
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validation and addiction to outrage. The redpill content has an intentionally written structure to bait rage, then pretend to be some some of cure for that rage, while helping no one. However, the thing that scares me is teenagers in the redpill, in that "drama" stage of life. As for middle aged guys into the redpill, look, if someone is that age and accepts such a simplistic worldview, that is their own fault.
/r/ExRedPill04/07/25 11:07 PM
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no matter what, don't call someone a "nice guy", especially while dumping him, whether it's a soft or hard dump, no matter the mood. Avoid any ambiguity. If you intend to keep him as a friend, it's "no", not "I don't want to date anyone right now". nothing sounding like an option to date in the future. close that door.
/r/ExRedPill02/07/25 08:04 PM
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I have no idea why it might be alienating someone to tell him that he is by default worse than a bear and that if he argues, it's because he is part of the problem. Sure, there may be more constructive ways to bring the point across of feeling unsafe, but it's better to alienate a population rather than encourage them to fix anything, I guess.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/25 11:04 PM
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Here is one that a lot of guys, myself included, have a bit of a habitual problem in: asking enough questions about them without asking too many, divulging just enough without monologuing. Also, not all women want the same thing. Some women want commitment, some want short term.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/25 05:14 PM
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He's 16. High schoolers are drama. but that aside, is your friend experiencing any other major stress, drama, etc at the time? redpill and blackpill tend to feed off preexisting stress.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/25 05:10 PM
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That claim that it is ok to hate white people is the weirdest strawman ever. There are currently ice agents raiding neighborhoods full of brown people, making it unsafe to walk around without ID. And no one is claiming it is ok to hate white people over that.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/25 10:57 PM
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I usually ghost women that have stuff like that on their social medias. I get enough flak for not being white, no need to deal with this stuff too.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/25 09:35 PM
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Even that question "would women rather be with an alpha male or a beta male" is loaded, because there is literally nothing to prove that taking advice from any of these redpill, pua, manosphere, etc, even makes someone into a manosphere. The whole proof is the influencers just talking big. A good chunk of the advice just makes the person into an avoided weirdo.
/r/ExRedPill20/06/25 11:31 PM
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None of that "advice" seems particularly sincere other than "cater to me specifically and never be your own person".
/r/ExRedPill16/06/25 01:17 AM
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It became very obvious that the redpill pushers were scammers. Also, I like having sex, and the redpill became an obvious barrier to that.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/25 04:28 PM
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That article's study is literally just about online dating sites in 2009, a more isolated segment of the population. It does not apply to the general population. In fact, in 2009, dating sites were still not viewed as normal as they are today. Strangely, and probably irrelevant to mention, is that dating sites/apps today are mostly men. Also, reducing this as "all women are completely picky about every little thing" vs "no women are picky", as complete binaries, is just flawed, even potentially …
/r/ExRedPill06/06/25 05:49 PM
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Generally, believe SA victims in their trauma. Stop framing this as women vs men. Treat victims as people, not as abstract causes. Don't interact with reddit people that act like allies with victims but get very pat-themselves-on-back about it. Don't go all whataboutism about their experiences either. SA victims are real people with real stakes, not just thought experiments.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/25 05:26 PM
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For one thing, none of us see your chatgpt answer so we have no idea how you worded your question. Seeing your post here, you seem to just make up big jumps on the fly and expect us to just believe what you said. How you word it will affect your answer. "Finds attractive" and "wants to date" are not the same thing. Also, purple pill debate is a trainwreck full of redpill pushers trying to JAQ off and use leaps in assumptions to preach. We are not going to fish through that shit. Give us the stud…
/r/ExRedPill06/06/25 12:36 AM
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Identify: Why does he even want to go the the redpill? Is he unhappy in his marriage? Is he expecting to walk out of it and get a 20 year old virgin blah blah blah? Is he mentally 19? Is it a right wing political thing? Does he think your stepmom is going to leave him for a chad?
/r/ExRedPill04/06/25 03:12 PM
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I am going to be blunt: PUA methods were never designed to actually work, just to market to inexperienced entitled young men with money to burn. The problem with overdoing the numbers game mindset is that it keeps every interaction too cheap while adding a desperate energy at the same time, which should be mutually exclusive, yet PUA approaches tend to mix both somehow. If you dedicate your mindset for an outing to "gaming" or "I am here to cold approach", it will turn your body language to a de…
/r/ExRedPill02/06/25 02:04 AM
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Do what the men's rights movement did not do a decade ago: get some opinions from men of color that paid attention to it a decade ago. And question if men's rights movement really addresses men's rights or just grievances from a select group of white guys, such as men of color existing.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/25 01:59 AM
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Being sexist is one issue. But MTOW is just really pathetic. There is nothing really wrong with abstaining from dating, being "done with it", etc; but MGTOW guys tend to center their entire identities and thought process around the women they supposedly avoid.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/25 01:55 AM
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remember: You are not going to convince these individuals in a panel. It is likely they do not even believe in what they say and this is all just a scam on their part. All this is really for the audience. Again, research these people beforehand. If they cite a study constantly, research that study beforehand and pick apart if it really says what these people claim it says. If the study or article is really long, copy+paste it to chatgpt and ask chatgpt if this supports their claims. Do this befo…
/r/ExRedPill10/05/25 11:46 PM
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life changes when your job makes you interact with different prople and realize they are people instead of caricatures.
/r/ExRedPill10/05/25 11:42 PM
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copy pasting an old comment of mine: ragebait is addicting. However, a lot of these videos are also made to start mild, even sounding rational in the beginning, then escalating to ragebait and "only our method can solve this!" type talking. Also, these people rehearse this and they take time writing things that will have this pace and tone. These videos are designed to do that. It's not just some guys talking naturally. "Women are different from men and that causes some confusions" {sounding mil…
/r/ExRedPill10/05/25 07:48 PM
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That's on purpose. It is made to provoke emotions and make you angry and vulnerable. It is not meant to help you. It is meant to imprint pain on you. Stop listening to redpill.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/25 10:36 PM
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Your question is excessively vague, but here is the great and most blatant contradiction: it gets guys in with claims to help defeat loneliness and help get women, then funnels them into bullshit tailored to make them fear women and keep the men miserable, thus always reliant on redpill.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/25 07:46 PM
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is this performance art?
/r/ExRedPill04/05/25 07:24 PM
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Literally no one here said that women or anyone, even men, are not picky. That is a strawman. Saying a woman is "picky" does not prove anything about seeking social status. Having problems in life is not the same as social status. Also, the redpill does not have anything to help guys with depression, ptsd, chronic fatigue or disabilities, and barely, if ever, even addresses these things. Instead, the redpill pushes a one-size-fits-all narrative to keep from muddying up the sales pitch. The "I ha…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/25 07:07 PM
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Read my comments. the psychologist does not say what OP claims the psychologist said. OP JAQed off and added his own stuff to the post, placing the burden of proof on everyone else to disprove it as an intentional bad faith strategy. Literally nothing in the article has anything about "toxic" men.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/25 06:58 PM
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The article makes no mention of feminism, nor leaving for other men. It makes mention of the women leaving, without any indication of other men. It does not say anything about other men not being caring, etc. "someone said that research shows..." Yeah, sure buddy. You made up a bunch of stuff or just pulled some canned redpill talking points and claimed the article said them. You just projected your own narrative onto the article and claimed the author said it.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/25 06:52 PM
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For one thing, there is nothing in the article stating "toxic" men. For another, the sample is a small selection of clients of a relationship counselor. Using a huffpost opinion piece is definitely reaching.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/25 03:03 AM
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"use my advice, click ad supported videos, buy my ebooks, and get me money and you too will become a high value man". That is a scam. It always has been. There are plenty of "low value" men married. Look around at couples. Not all of those men are elite "high value" whatevers. Also, one thing you will notice in anyone selling you the "high value man" narrative: you always have to keep coming back, and at no point are you allowed to say "I am good, I am high value, I can close the door on this".
/r/ExRedPill01/05/25 07:32 PM
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Not all women in harems had a choice on whether or not to be there in countries with harems for rich people and rulers. So... there is an example.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/25 07:27 PM
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this is a youtuber. There are youtubers dor anything that can be said, whether smart or absolutely stupid. It is about getting clicks, not about being correct or productive
/r/ExRedPill25/04/25 11:28 PM
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Redpill does not draw people with logic, it draws people with appeals to emotion, outrage, and grievances, while first pretending to offer solutions. Then, it offers no real solutions nor paths to happiness.
/r/ExRedPill25/04/25 11:27 PM
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hypergamy, the idea that women are hardwired to keep dumping guys for the next one up? This is like if I asked you to debunk me telling you that fish can generate nuclear power in other universes. It is just a bit jump that is too far out there to even be on the realm of rational discourse.
/r/ExRedPill25/04/25 11:25 PM
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I see the salespitch strategy framing everything else as "the blue pill" (as if to make "the red pill" seem like equil merit instead of internet bullshit) umbrella, combined with the vague JAQing off.
/r/ExRedPill25/04/25 11:22 PM
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He would probably make stuff up to make you hate and fear fellow human beings, especially other men, constantly bringing up new reasons to hate and fear the next group, then the next group, then the next group. He would then flood supporters with grievances but solve absolutely nothing. He would make everything about himself, to the point that his supporters stop caring if it even helps them or their families.
/r/ExRedPill25/04/25 11:19 PM
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lol@ joel shoemaker thread
/r/ExRedPill16/04/25 02:22 AM
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So people that view things through the "nice guy" lens tend to go full polarized binary in their way of thinking, in this case, the assumption that the only two ways to live are "nice guy" and some opposite of that. The reality is that most people are a bit more in the moment, grey areas on everything. Now as for "emotionally vulnerable" vs "emotionally closed off". rather than labels, identities, etc Try to treat things as individual bad habits. So to straight up say: some men and some women do…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/25 04:34 AM
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It did not work when those 40 year olds were younger, either. This is a very old scam that was never meant to work on women, it was just meant to get guys coming back for more advice. When guys failed, it was always framed as "because you did not do our system right, so click our ads and buy our stuff so we can teach you our system better". Then they say something like that the next time, and the next time.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/25 11:51 PM
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Have you ever considered that your definition of "emotionally available" might not line up with the right amount? Being "emotionally available" does not mean you need to speed into commitment asap, it does not mean you have to be a doormat, it does not mean you have to act like your life depends on her to be happy.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/25 11:47 PM
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Distance yourself from redpill. Hang out with positive people, distance yourself from drama filled people. Look, a thing about redpill: redpill has no condition in which you are allowed to be happy or enjoy anything, because being happy and content would discourage people from going back to redpill, clicking their ads, and buying their products. Redpill influencers are not trying to help you, they are making sure you come back.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/25 05:42 PM
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You're young. You made mistakes. Leave those in the past, learn from them, do better. Not just for others, but for yourself. If anything, you learned at a young enough age what mind of person you want to be. Seek positivity in your life. Avoid stringent tribalism.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/25 02:11 AM
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When they are presented with "hypergamy", it tends to involve wording that stokes outrage and a feeling of helplessness
/r/ExRedPill08/04/25 12:38 AM
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So first: there is no legitimate person that decides who is and is not manosphere. It can be any religion. The main things pushed by manosphere are larping as macho from behind a keyboard, assigning weird influencers to be your patron saints and living vicariously through them, and lack of empathy. There is also a huge mix if right wing culture war nonsense. It is more bizarre that any muslim would be part of manosphere because sitting behind a keyboard larping as macho is not macho, and because…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/25 08:38 PM
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I straight up disagree with everyone on porn addiction (the people saying it is a big deal and the people denying porn addiction is a thing). People can get addicted to anything: porn, video games, gambling, doomscrolling, window shopping, hoarding. If you do something and it gets excessive and makes the rest of your life suffer, be honest, you don't have to turn it into a political thing or religious thing, nor have to look for a condition. If you keep spending too much money on a freemium mobi…
/r/ExRedPill06/04/25 10:17 PM
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copy pasting my reply in another thread: It comes from some weird statistics from okcupid, released in 2009, that got mixed with Pareto Principle (19th century philisophical idea that approximately 80% of the effects or outcomes come from 20% of the causes or inputs). For reference, dating sites, such as okcupid are mostly guys, and the people on dating sites just tend to be worse in general. This was especially true in 2009. When redpillers, manosphere, etc cite this, they tend to ignore the we…
/r/ExRedPill05/04/25 07:59 PM
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I should mention what also burned me out of redpill early on: I hung out with some of these people in person. I have hung out with other people before. When you hang out with people, the contrast between cockblocky bitter entitled counterproductive embarassing redpillers and everyone else is like night and day. You see, redpillers talk big on reddit, and make huge claims. But in person, outside of the online currated space, that falls apart fast.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/25 05:08 PM
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Most people just live in moments. Not everyone is long term planning in every interaction.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/25 05:05 PM
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Can we start admitting that racism is a red flag instead of pretending that stigmatizing racism is a political partisan thing?
/r/ExRedPill01/04/25 02:35 AM
2

obvious troll is obvious.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/25 02:33 AM
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Before my contact with redpill, I had time in the "Pickup artist" community. They sell you thousand dollar weekend "bootcamps" with the promise that this makes you a pickup artist. Of course, the stuff doesn't actually work as well as simply going up and starting a conversation like a normal person, which pickup artists refer to as "fool's game" and try to convince you is a bad idea. The point of the pickup artist community is to keep you dependent so you keep buying bootcamps. The material is n…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 07:59 PM
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It comes from some weird statistics from okcupid, released in 2009, that got mixed with Pareto Principle (19th century philisophical idea that approximately 80% of the effects or outcomes come from 20% of the causes or inputs). For reference, dating sites, such as okcupid are mostly guys, and the people on dating sites just tend to be worse in general. This was especially true in 2009. When redpillers, manosphere, etc cite this, they tend to ignore the weird racial statistics on okcupid since it…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/25 06:36 AM
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It sounds like he has made racism a big part of his life and thinking. It would have only gotten worse with him.
/r/ExRedPill29/03/25 04:06 PM
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By the way, since you mentioned prison guards: prison guards are not exactly known for being society's cream of the crop. You find someone, cast away by society and most of the job market, then she finds an accessible guy that works out and has not seen a woman in years, that is why there are stories of woman prison guards hooking up with male prisoners. It's not about some irresistible charm, it's desperation and lack of better options on both sides.
/r/ExRedPill28/03/25 10:46 PM
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That's nice. Wow. a small sample size of college girls watching 2 minute clips of guys talking, then rating attractiveness and percieved confidence. This is so deep and world changing. I am sure sorority life can be applied to the rest of humanity. By the way, the study is claiming to prove that psychopaths use manipulative strategies; but these were just guys talking to a camera for 2 minutes, who knows if they even knew how they came off.
/r/ExRedPill28/03/25 10:22 PM
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It is a sensationalist article cherry picking the study. 46 college guys, 108 college women. Research method: the guys talked for 2 minutes and were recorded, then took questionaires. The guys filled out questionnaires rating sociopathy, social intelligence, and attitudes towards casual sex. The college aged women watched these 2 minute videos and rated who they percieved as more confident and attractive. No long term interactions, no actual interactions, just short clips of dudes talking for 2 …
/r/ExRedPill28/03/25 07:54 PM
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Politicians were mapping out sex etiquette to confirm sexual consent, and it was clinical and detached from how people actually have sex. I am going to tell you a deep dark secret that reddit people, both on the right and the left, treat as a taboo topic: A lot of women enjoy sex. Sex is a normal thing between two people. It's not some weird thing where men are victimizing women or turning them unpure and unmarriable.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/25 11:13 PM
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It was a very obvious grift, and I have been through other grifts. It also starts off pretending to be about doing better with women, then quickly turns into trying to convince you that women are constantly scheming to harm you. It then loops into a bunch of ways to convince you that you will never be happy, and thay you have to keep coming back to redpill.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/25 07:57 PM
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Just because something sounds deep and edgy does not mean it has merit. Steer clear of the "no sex is consensual" BS, we went through this in late 2017/2018 and it went badly for everyone. Avoid gender war nonsense, no matter which side it comes from.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/25 07:54 PM
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Dual mating strategy had nothing about being hardwired to cheat. Of small sample sizes, consisting of college aged women, in studies by Gangestad, Thornhill, and Garver Apgar, in 2005 and 2008, it was shown that in different ovulation stages, women showed slight difference in attraction, with women being more attracted to traits like symmetry while more fertile (and this was based on self reporting by the women). There's nothing in there about cheating on a partner or dumping someone for someone…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/25 10:32 PM
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Evolutionary psychologists know their ideas are speculative and untestable. Tomassi makes huge jumps of "A, B, C, and D all prove I am right and you should listen to me and buy my stuff". Tomassi has marketed himself as being an all encompassing expert on crap that he made up.
/r/ExRedPill21/03/25 10:19 PM
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You can't change people. You can't treat people like projects. If someone wants to leave the redpill, they first have to realize that it's not just toxic, but also really stupid and a scam.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/25 05:49 AM
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If it's for yourself, yes. If you are trying to change someone else, I doubt it.
/r/ExRedPill10/03/25 07:57 PM
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Different generation.
/r/ExRedPill07/03/25 02:56 AM
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No. And it's not as simple as alpha/beta. Those are things that got made up by the PUA community as a dating designation. I had a PUA phase. They try convincing you that you become an alpha by paying the thousands of dollars to take their boot camps, but then you need more boot camps to be an alpha. The "alpha fucks beta bucks" thing is a stupid manosphere way of guys patting themselves on the back for being dumped ("I was dumped for being too alpha!"). The truth is that people date around and s…
/r/ExRedPill06/03/25 09:08 PM
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The first thing to keep in mind: These people tailored their messages. They are scammers that do not believe what they preach. The took the time to figure out how to push buttons, play on your emotions, and get you angry so you stick around and read further. The first thing: see through the scam.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/25 06:56 PM
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Because strangers on the internet told them to be.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/25 11:30 PM
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So on Redpill and manosphere stuff, the thing to keep in mind: For a man, being happy is just not allowed in redpill and manosphere spaces. If he's in a happy relationship, there are a lot of goalposts moved to convince him he has lost at life. Either she makes more, she's over 25, it's only 1 woman and not a harem, she has a small heart tattoo, whatever dumb thing. The manosphere convinces a guy that he can't just enjoy a nice walk in the park with you, a nice cafe outing, etc without some sort…
/r/ExRedPill04/03/25 11:20 PM
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Oh! There's the backtrack! You treated these hypothetical examples as the norm, not as a worse case scenario to look for.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/25 07:11 PM
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Oh, you have seen these stories and now they are 100% of the population and we have to treat this as the norm?
/r/ExRedPill03/03/25 06:50 PM
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Your clock is not ticking. 24 is young. Also, warehouse jobs are less of a stigma if you live in a small town or something, and are not surrounded by people constantly talking about their stock portfolios. But seriously, apply out of that warehouse. Apply apply apply. Warehouse jobs rarely lead to long term upward mobility. Don't do this for the women, do it for yourself. Also, this is easier said than done, but that's solvable by finding activity groups, hobby groups, etc and meeting people bes…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/25 06:18 PM
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"Why can't you dispute these people I made up and generalized to 100% of the population? I am so reasonable!" Well, there you have it, the JAQoff has a huge group of guys he just made up and you have to apologize to them. He is going to try to sound like he is being bullied or everyone else is "offended" by him, and he will try to pretend to be level headed. That is what JAQoffs do.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/25 06:10 PM
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You know, you, only you, OP, should just stay away from women entirely. You are obviously JAQing off trying to preach, using some isolated incidents as if they are everyday guaranteed occurrences. Will women leave you for a rich playboy or simply for guys that don't JAQ off so much on reddit? "Just Asking Questions, but here are a bunch of things I am going to claim are always happening and I will give myself room to backtrack". For reference, this JAQoff has another thread trying to lead people…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/25 05:48 AM
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Actually talk to people. Seriously. Stop assuming a great experience because of an appearance alone. I have met some very hot but very abrasive women. I have met some average but actually pleasant women. Go meet people and get used to humanizing instead of picking templates by attractiveness.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/25 09:00 PM
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if you were the ugliest guy alive and you smelled like a thousand dead fish compressed in a small area together, neither redpill nor incel would do anything for you except work to make you more depressed and dependent, coming back for more.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/25 08:54 PM
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Or redpillers will handwave it with claims of lesbians being "hypergamous". Look, redpill claims are not exactly made in good faith.
/r/ExRedPill28/02/25 10:00 PM
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don't worry about the word "incel". That word came from a subculture of very angry entitled guys that used that word to describe themselves. When people use that word to describe a guy, it's usually due to the weird entitled hostile things the guy says. anyways, what is your area like, small town, big city, industrialized, collegy, suburby?
/r/ExRedPill27/02/25 10:15 PM
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Yeah, if lack of basic empathy is a feature, it is best to write these people off.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/25 07:32 AM
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First: Do not assume that everyone else thinks alike, whether men, women, etc. And do not assume everyone else thinks like you. Second, it sounds like you feel out of place in general where you are. I'm not judging, just saying. If you feel socially isolated, it's ok to say it. I get that society teaches us to dance around things and avoid looking inward. So what makes you assume women only want macho guys? Where are you seeing this? Are you always hanging out at college football games or someth…
/r/ExRedPill27/02/25 07:29 AM
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I don't suppose any of the down voters care to say what they find bad about this comment?
/r/ExRedPill25/02/25 10:33 PM
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So every small town I have been in is a bit different: is it one where everyone at the same place knows each other? Is it rural and next to farms? Small towns: sometimes, limited job markets really limit the flow of who lives there. Sometimes, people know each other way too well at venues and it's a bit intimidating to start at a new hangout spot since you might feel like an outsider. Sometimes, no one goes out. If it's a college town, you might be bored out of your mind when you are 29. Where a…
/r/ExRedPill24/02/25 08:26 PM
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that's horrible. those pages have never been verifiable. Report that post for abuse. Get them zucked for a bit. That's harassment. I looked at page like that before and there was one post about a guy, asking if he cheated, and a bunch of insane angry women talked about how he must also be a rapist because he supposedly cheated. None of them even knew him.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/25 08:07 PM
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The term "Natural" came from the PUA community to handwave seeing non-PUA men get with women at a club. Pickup artists used to try selling the fantasy that only a few select men get any women. To understand why they preached this, keep in mind that PUA was a scam.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/25 08:02 PM
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It's a gym. You are going for you. Other people are just background. I don't mean this to judge: But you have internalized an assumption of women as a goal and an antagonist and this has made them terrifying to you. Who cares if you cann never get with these particular women? That is not why you are there. I see a lot of women I will never get a chance with at the gym (way too much age difference, and I don't want to hear about 1st year college classes). And this is irrelevant. Look: see women a…
/r/ExRedPill23/02/25 10:12 PM
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Dating apps just genuinely suck and they always sucked. That's not about any pill or "not alpha enough". Apps have way more men than women; and among the woman acounts, a good chunk are instagrammers just trying to get followers, scammers (I guarantee the real account holder is not the person on the photo for these), and women that just rarely respond to anyone at all. You have to meet people in person outside of apps. Not just for dating, but to learn what people actually expect from you. I don…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 08:01 PM
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Seriously, avoid gender war crap, no matter which side it comes from.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/25 09:02 PM
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Whether or not defined as redpill, that article is toxic. Between what to expect (submissiveness all the time) and his mindset that a man has to always be dominant (he is vague about this concept) all the time or he gets walked on, like putting on a show on constant worry. A major red flag: stock photos of attractive models, overly planned staged photos of him posing with models that are paid to pose.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/25 08:42 PM
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So to put the redpill into perspective: it's a scam meant to sell and get adclick revenue. It is not meant to actually help anyone, it is meant to push buttons and keep gullible guys coming back. You have nothing to gain from engaging with it. If a guy believes in it, ditch him and go with a man instead. Most guys are not big on the redpill. In fact, outside of redpill spaces, redpill is seem as being interchangeable with "incel" by people that know about redpill. It is really looked down on. An…
/r/ExRedPill15/02/25 12:42 AM
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Then who are these supposed people that are radar detecting your virginity and then going up to you and making fun of you for it out of the blue?
/r/ExRedPill14/02/25 10:44 PM
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If you are 29 and hanging out with adults that care about someone else's virginity, then your social group really needs to grow up.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/25 09:18 PM
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Get back to us when you graduate high school.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/25 08:33 PM
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No one in this thread is making accusations at you. You literally came into this thread, that you made, and started ranting that everyone is making accusations against you and you started claiming there are accusations against you. We don't even know who you are. Are people picking up on the red flag of you going on and on about that? Yeah, of course. If I started a conversation with something like "I really hate that I keep getting accused of murdering multiple people in dark alleys, and the co…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/25 08:18 PM
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You asked a question, you stated your story, and you got helpful answers. People are not going to say "Oh, you showered your female friend with attention? She really owes you". Sorry jack. Also, no one in that thread called you an incel. You know how you do better in your life? By doing better, not by seeking out yes-men to praise you when you screw yourself.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/25 12:42 AM
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How old are you? Literally nothing you said here is how society works. No one attributes status to you on dating an attractive women unless you are dating a celebrity or something. Most people don't care.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/25 06:50 PM
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Even attractive people in healthy relationships talk to each other. They don't just have constant sex like in a porn movie.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/25 06:48 PM
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You should not be showering anyone with attention, it's overwhelming and feels like a chore to pay attention to. Treating reciprocation like it's an obligation is offputting. It's not an economy thing and it's not a transaction. It's not about looking inexperienced with women: it's just plain offputting and projects red flags, and turns your text messages into a chore to read. You are turning yourself into more maintenance than you are worth. Do you have any friends that message you long annoyin…
/r/ExRedPill13/02/25 06:12 PM
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Do research into social psychology, cults, marketing, and online sales strategy as well. A lot of the marketing for the red pill is very planned out and intentional, and you will find patterns.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/25 06:33 PM
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I say this as a guy that weird parental dynamics that I had to move past: Your life will be much better if you most past it. You do not owe them any kind of grace, but you do owe grace to yourself. You see in your stepdad someone who you do not want to be. You see a guy that represents holding grudges against a kid, particularly yourself while you were a kid: be better than him. Be your best self, be successful, be happy, be the you that he does not want to see you become. But it you carry him w…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/25 08:36 PM
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Yeah, it's hard to get over the concept that the world outside is way different from what happens at home, and it feels like you are starting over from 0 on understanding relationship dynamics when parental dynamics are screwed up. You start with a parental figure that acts like you are no longer worthy of love because you took too long on a mundane chore, it feels like you walk on a minefield constantly, and then you get out in the world and find out everyone acts completely different.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/25 11:04 PM
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That's weird. I have a hard time taking life advice from people that do not want me to be alive.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/25 11:01 PM
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What exactly brought you to the redpill? A good chunk of that crowd is not exactly welcoming towards women, muslims, former muslims, or people they do not find to be their definition of white. There is nothing there for you. It's ragebait, and most people outside of the redpill, that know of the redpill, do not differentiate redpill from incel.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/25 09:33 PM
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yeah, unless it's for a greencard or sugar daddy arrangement, there are not a hoard of 22 year old women looking for 50 year old men.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/25 01:12 AM
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Outside of his generic self help stuff, he keeps trying to use far right buzz talking points to sell, and uses the term "postmodern neo marxism", which does not even make sense as a term, to describe anything that sounds like it does not align with culture war stuff. He does a lot of stupid performative stuff: he recorded in front of a pile of logs as if to look like he chopped them all himself. look, get your life together, work on yourself and your career, but don't pretend that jordon peteron…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/25 11:03 PM
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Ok, lets help out. What is your age and your area like? Different ages will have different dating patterns. Different types of areas will have different dating patterns, too. A big metropolitan area, a suburb, and a college town will have major dating differences . Also, sometimes, you do have to take the risk and just overtly ask someone out on a date, and directly say it is a date. Not everyone gets the hint. Do not 100% rely on dating apps, those have way more men than women, and among the wo…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/25 04:28 PM
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"Just asking questions". "Oh why do people hate a guy that writes self help books and throws in nonsense like 'postmodern neo-marxism" to conveniently describe everything that does not conform to his culture war garbage? Why do people not believe this guy, that never did physical labor, but poses by a pile of firewood logs in some of his videos to look macho?" "Oh that redpill, why do people want to escape a weird thing that promises to help you get women, but instead just gives constant ragebai…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/25 04:14 PM
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The first thing when redpillers talk about power: the vast majority of these guys are full of shit. They have no power. Most are not popular. Otherwise, they would not be going to influencers for advice. What power do these guys have? Power over their keyboards and monitors? As for social networks: look, I have dated a woman that had no friends she actively talked to: trust me, it's not a great experience. You don't want to be someone's absolute only means of socializing, it sucks fast.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/25 02:53 PM
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I was joking about escaping ireland. But as for the red pill, I got out of it way faster than most because of my experience with the PUA community. I had heard the big talking salespitches, and seen a bunch of guys, that paid thousands of dollars in "bootcamps", fail to get any women, even on nights that were particularly easy. These guys just seemed to think that everyone out there thinks the same as them, and could not concieve that other people are actually at a bar for fun on a busy night. I…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/25 03:55 AM
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Gathering opinions from friends and family, hearing out diverse voices, and sneaking out by boat in the middle of the night is how I escaped Ireland.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/25 06:05 PM
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You escape by catching onto the scam. The red pill has always been a grift. Someone says things to play on your insecurities and grievances, then magnify it. The rhetoric will be worded to push buttons and make you as angry as possible. So not only did a woman reject you, but the red pill will convince you that she is out having sex with a bunch of other guys today. And the wording will be made to anger you, and make you feel like you will never be happy without the red pill. The red pill will t…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/25 11:54 PM
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If you are misanthropic, that's one thing. But stop assuming that everyone else is also misanthropic.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 07:43 PM
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The toxic game is exhausting constantly, and leads to a life of paranoia and the constant feel that the whole thing can fall apart at any time. If you have to watch and suspect random people of trifling, then you are not in a great place. Avoid it. As for your friends, that's their problem, let them deal with it, hope for the best. Sometimes, people (men and women) are stuck in bad dynamics or just too comfortable with drama. Look, sometimes, you just want a good night's sleep and to look forwar…
/r/ExRedPill23/01/25 01:23 AM
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People on their 20s have less sex than people in their 20s did 60 years ago. https://www.yahoo.com/news/people-think-gen-z-sex-141602977.html
/r/ExRedPill22/01/25 11:48 PM
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Let me guess: they said some things that touched on grievances or just put you in a worse mood and made you feel helpless and vulnerable, then claimed this proved their points, even if there is zero connection between the grievances and their conclusions?
/r/ExRedPill21/01/25 09:07 PM
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stop taking podcasters seriously. anyone can hold a podcast, there is zero barrier to entry, and percieved legitimacy is often measured by how shocking or entertaining the person sounds. Most od these people do not even believe their own words. Do not just go podcaster to podcaster, as if seeking out a deacon.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/25 09:01 PM
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First question: why do you need any of these writers and podcasters at all? Anyone can make a book or podcast. These people have as much legitimacy as a meth head yelling at a street lamp. Also, most of these people are scammers that do not even believe in the things they talk about for audiences. At least the meth head yelling at the street lap really does believe in his quarrel with the street lamp.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/25 09:03 PM
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They're not bugging about being nice: they are bugging about someone who keeps claiming they are nice or some variation (as a self identity) and believes this entitles them to things, or someone that believes they are always the innocent victim and thus nothing they do is wrong. It's the difference between being nice (at least civil) and being a "nice guy" with quotes.
/r/ExRedPill11/01/25 06:47 PM
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So here is where "thought experiment" falls apart as a concept: what looks physically threatening to you might not be the same as what looks physically threatening to someone else. Also, making the assumption about a binary treatment package difference between physically threatening looking and physically nonthreatening looking is a big jump in assumptions.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 06:34 PM
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It is alright to refrain from dating if a person just is not feeling fulfilled by it, or even to take breaks from dating. Some people take breaks for dating for career, life complications, just not feeling emotionally ready, etc. But MGTOW make it their whole identity and constantly obsess over women. They then latch onto online communities that obsess over women. They could persue other interests instead, a sport, a hobby group, an art, something, maybe enjoy that extra emotional energy somehow…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 06:36 AM
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Get off that clinical framing and mindset of "all women do behavior x" vs "no women do behavior x". "Short term mating". Seriously, you are throwing guesses and trying to place half of humanity into neat boxes. Look: every new person you meet, think of them as a blank slate from your perspective. They come from different circumstances, have seen different things, may want different things out of life, and they might even be in different stages of life. And what the person wants today night not b…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 06:33 AM
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It sounds like he latched onto any alt right stuff he could find and made an online presence about it, but acknowledged this would be socially alienating to talk about in person. If you bring it up, he'll downplay it as just his political beliefs and act like you are the problem for making things "political".
/r/ExRedPill09/01/25 06:28 AM
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How old are you? Different ages have different dating habits. Also, what is your area like, collegy, rural, urban?
/r/ExRedPill06/01/25 02:34 AM
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You have depression and you are using rhetorical gymnastics to justify it.
/r/ExRedPill04/01/25 11:41 PM
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The fact that you can also recognize this polarized binary proves it to be true I recognize Mickey Mouse, that does not make Mickey Mouse real.
/r/ExRedPill02/01/25 11:23 PM
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ok, you are muddying up with that whole internet "zomg, women say they want a nice guy but I am nice" thing: get that out of your head, it does not help anything. no one here is telling you to be a nice guy. No one here is telling you to be a psycho or criminal either. Seriously, get the mindset out of your head that you have to choose between polarized binaries.
/r/ExRedPill02/01/25 08:04 PM
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I had a friend in college, a really clean cut academic athletic black guy: and our friend group saw this happen to him sometimes. Some women would go out with him, expecting a hip hop stereotype and whatever experiences they expected out of this, and getting a laid back guy instead. This did not happen with all the women he dated, but it did happen with some. And yeah, it will be some cringy lady telling you that you don't act your race or something. And it's easier said than done, but you have …
/r/ExRedPill01/01/25 10:47 PM
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Neil Strauss wrote "The Game", which made PUAs internet famous. But every story is full of a familiar writing style: Oh this guy is so sad because he got constant sex and all it got him was a mansion. Yeah, sure buddy. It's basically the "there's someone that got the sports car " carrot in pyramid schemes. Even stories about Strauss by Strauss have that writing style.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/24 07:42 AM
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I took the crimson pill and now a bunch of 20 year old sorority girls are holding my dog hostage until I finish having sex with them all. They said that if I call the cops, they will teach Emperor Mango, my very refined dog of royal lineage, the blue pill and he will never be able to have puppies.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/24 04:12 AM
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I don't trust Neil Strauss. He totally exaggerated or straight up fabricated PUA success big time. Tucker Max is a satirist, though a pretty good one. A lot of readers miss that these days. His writings often were about a fictionalized exaggerated characature of his persona being a wild party guy in a world full of normal polite people unprepared for the antics.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/24 02:13 AM
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not every interaction with a stranger is a horrible terrifying experience to every woman. However, parking lots just are not socially safe feeling spaces. It is easy to hide in one, they're badly lit at night, there is a major lack of witnesses, and there is potential for being hit by a car, so people are more guarded in parking lots. If anything, it sounds like the guys realized halfway that they picked a bad time/place [likely by her reaction] and they left it on a good note rather than ruin s…
/r/ExRedPill29/12/24 10:00 PM
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Ok. "Divorces happen, thus all this unrelated stuff must be true. buy my ebooks and get me ad revenue". This does not make any sense. You are asking us to disprove a ton of nonsense that someone came up to push emotional buttons and get your adclicks. Oh hey, going by the same logic, divorces happen, this proves a cheeseburger is vegan.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/24 01:45 AM
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Look, you keep calling it "cold approach", indicating that you are using a system, likely the redpill. That just does not work. If you talk to previous generations and how they met strangers, you will notice they make no reference to "DHV" or other such nonsense meant to sound legitimate to constantly online people. Memorizing a bunch of lines, for a script that just never occurs, is not great. Your friend is good looking, and yeah, that helps. It sounds like he is also confident and not self pi…
/r/ExRedPill26/12/24 05:51 PM
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Aaron Renn is a hack that tries to feed into a victim complex for christians. He claims that the US went on a downward spiral against christians in 1994, the year clinton was elected. He just plays on vague exaggerated grievances to get support. This is not even counting the canned redpill turnkey grift. But fine, I will engage. OKcupid is an old dating site that always just had worse and way more racist people than the rest of the population. While dating sites and apps seem to attract worse pe…
/r/ExRedPill25/12/24 11:50 PM
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Some of these folk think it is political and required in the culture war. It's ironic to think of red pill being considered "traditional"; what's traditional about a bunch of keyboard warriors heavily enraged whenever a marvel protagonist is a woman?
/r/ExRedPill24/12/24 01:16 AM
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There is literally zero logic of "divorce rates are high" thus "weird redpill package deal". Do you seriously think that only women initiate divorces, and if that was true, how would this be solved by online posturing?
/r/ExRedPill24/12/24 01:11 AM
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responding to last paragraph and I do not know how to quote part of it with a margin line. Look, there are some women out there that specifically like toxic men. There are some men out there that specifically like toxic women, too. I have met these kinds of people. You don't want to be in that kind of exhausting relationship. The people were never really happy in them. It was always new crisis of the day with them. One toxic guy's girlfriend even tried to get with me, which was double weird beca…
/r/ExRedPill22/12/24 08:28 PM
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I mean, by that logic, those people are supposed to listen to anyone who can beat them up. You are not going to get a quality exchange of ideas from those people. Find a better use of your time. Play Solitaire or something.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/24 12:41 AM
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The redpill's entire concept of masculinity is based around obsessing over women and being scared+angry at women. That is not the same as masculinity in general.
/r/ExRedPill19/12/24 09:55 PM
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look, go ahead and work out, stay in shape, be good to yourself; the redpill did not invent that. The redpill's most harmful aspect is the cycle of being angry over nonsensical ragebait to keep you coming back without actually solving things, meanwhile causing the believer to be an annoying reality lacking pain to the believer and those around the believer. There is also the huge tendency to obsess over women and place your entire masculine identity on being about women.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/24 07:04 AM
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I hope that seeing someone preach the redpill and reveal the weak premises has strengthened your resolve.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/24 12:50 AM
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Oh I see, the redpill is correct because you keep the definition vague while trying to put the other guy on the defensive so that you never actually have to prove yourself right, posturing instead.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/24 12:44 AM
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His point: some people are happy or unhappy in relationships and casual relationships exist, so this proves the redpill's long ass manifesto for some reason and you must stay dependent on a bunch of grifters' ragebait. Similar logic: Since people buy lawnmowers, grass must be made of cow meat.
/r/ExRedPill13/12/24 12:34 AM
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Is this a troll thread? It's a short illogical question that provokes a wordy answer to a vague premise that does not even follow the supposed proof. "If grass is not made of cow meat, then why do people buy lawnmowers?"
/r/ExRedPill11/12/24 09:42 PM
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It takes two people to divorce. It's not just a single mother, there's a single father too. Your whole argument is flawed.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/24 07:30 PM
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Have you ever met a redpiller in person and seen them talk to women, by any chance? adding this an hour later: it rarely goes well. in person, redpill guys tend to be bitter shut ins and find women to be these terrifying creatures. There's just no point in getting in redpill: you get in to be better with women, then a bunch of guys flood you with ragebait to keep you dependent afraid of women. You are way better off without the redpill holding you back. It's just a poop colored lense to see the …
/r/ExRedPill10/12/24 07:29 PM
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I don't see how this revisal changed anything. Seriously, read your own stuff and pretend someone else said it. Apply those standards to yourself.
/r/ExRedPill06/12/24 03:42 AM
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Assuming that 100% of this is because of the women or 100% of this is because of the men are both completely flawed premises. There are high drama men, there are high drama women, there are high drama men with high drama women, there are couples where just one person is high drama, there are couples where both people are drama but in different ways. Get off the redpill idea or "all women or zero women do _____". Now of you want to ask how normal or common couples' arguments are, or what is consi…
/r/ExRedPill04/12/24 11:37 PM
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Eh, not that common, but there are cases. Not everyone grew up with financial resources and citizenship, and there are guys so rich that any looks, personality, traits, basically anything about them, are irrelevant to the right person. I have known cases in particular, but it always involved strange or financially broke individuals. Unless you inherited millions of dollars from your family or lead by offering a green card, you really don't have to worry about this. I know a great public example,…
/r/ExRedPill28/11/24 09:06 PM
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You are right. 100%. Feminism did indeed get dominated by white women, that ignored women of color's voices. However, feminists are not cheering on cops killing unarmed women of color, or even men of color, and that is the difference I see .
/r/ExRedPill25/11/24 03:12 AM
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MRAs always take the cop's side when an unarmed black man gets killed by a cop. They are not really for men's rights. It is just a right wing thing.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 10:33 PM
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He talks about religion because pretending to be christian is a requirement for these people, picking a side in the supposed "culture war". A lot of the redpillers like to think they are christians, even if they follow none of the actual ethics. Again, culture war tribalism.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 06:46 PM
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If you are dreading communicating with him, and have been doing so for over a year, then you know to get out of there.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 06:44 PM
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wait, he was using the word "trad" two years ago?
/r/ExRedPill21/11/24 01:07 AM
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What did you actually know about his opinions early on? This might be stuff that simply did not come up before, and since you liked him, you may have just made assumptions about his way of thinking. I am not knocking on you for that, I have done that before. I really liked someone that, over time, it turns out she was really angry about the existence of a lot of broad groups of people (racial, cultural, gender identity). It did not really come up at first, or she may have adopted these mindsets …
/r/ExRedPill17/11/24 07:03 PM
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That's redpill thinking: the redpill teaches you that you are constantly substandard to every woman unless you keep following up redpill's next advice and next advice and next advice. it's a cycle. that's intentional.
/r/ExRedPill10/11/24 07:42 PM
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You seem to leaving out the big part of the stories: what you said to them that brought upon this response. I doubt you were talking about the weather. Coming in and acting like a victim, when leaving that part out, never sits well with me.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/24 04:54 AM
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Because it was pushed by obvious scammers that just keep posting ragebait, tailored to keep people angry and coming back, while providing jack squat benefit. You go in just to learn how to do better with women, and then it just gives you a bunch of lectures on why women hate you and will harm you.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/24 01:35 AM
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redpill tells you that your masculinity is tied to seeing women as monsters that want to hurt you or use you for money and that the world is horrible. a good chunk of those redpillers even view a lot of other men, especially nonwhite men, as some kind of enemy. You don't consider that drama?
/r/ExRedPill06/11/24 12:19 AM
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she is an exceptional asshole because she gave you crap about your job instead of just dumping you. If you had a good job, she would make your life more miserable by sticking with you and she would find other things to make you feel bad about. Not all women think like her. While a good job is a factor, it is not every woman's ultimate deciding factor. And even then, there's a huge difference between turning someone down and being exceptionally awful enough to make them feel bad about their job. …
/r/ExRedPill06/11/24 12:03 AM
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This thread feels like something we can link to everytime someone posts with a tiring "but all women do this" thread.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/24 06:13 PM
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Redpill and manosphere are not supposed to make sense. Manosphere is about making a bunch of guys feel righteous about dating grievances and redpill is just there to make money by some internet scammers. Here's another one: Why do these groups claim to be about male empowerment, yet seem to hate so many men? Black men, brown men, gay men, middle eastern men: None of these people are allowed the same kinds of rights that straight white men are supposed to get in these ideologies. Redpillers big t…
/r/ExRedPill04/11/24 06:09 PM
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Do you habitually doomscroll?
/r/ExRedPill02/11/24 11:07 PM
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Some people find drama and get pulled in to read further, going down a juicy rabbit hole. And it's hard to break the habit. And it gets tempting to come bakc and see what happens next. And redpill presents an example of this.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/24 10:11 PM
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A part of separating out the redpill: remember that it was made by scammers that carefully tailored wording to keep you as pissed off as possible. It's ragebait made by scammers to keep you coming back
/r/ExRedPill01/11/24 09:54 PM
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I have to ask, and be honest: do you have a drama addiction?
/r/ExRedPill01/11/24 12:17 AM
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That's a different issue. The concept of "nothing good to say" and "no good places to socialize since pandemic" are two different things.
/r/ExRedPill29/10/24 08:48 PM
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You can make a genuine greeting that is relevant to the situation, making it personalized and acting like a human being, like humans have been doing for millenia. It's not a shortcut and will not always work, but it is better than spamming weird canned material, learned from scammers, at a bunch of women while sounding robotic. As opposed to calling it "cold approach" like a desperate commission salesman.
/r/ExRedPill29/10/24 12:02 AM
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The redpill and pua methods of trying to pick up women just plain suck . Look, I get these communities claim they have the one true method blah blah, but it simply does not work like that. Their methods come off weird and even sometimes desperate or offputting. And I get the more modern marketing: they try to word this like they are the only way to try to pick up on women, they try to word this like other guys congratulate you rather than find you embarrassing to be around. And they try to encou…
/r/ExRedPill27/10/24 07:13 PM
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I get literally none of that stuff, redpill nor women that hate on men, on threads. Your algorithm is looping you with drama to get you engaged and viewing adds. If someone is your friend and talking like that, do not engage, or you will fall into the bad habit of escalating the rhetoric one way, and this will make her escalate the rhetoric the other way . The truth is that internet debates are garbage because people tend to try to sound shocking and then try to outdo each other, making a stew o…
/r/ExRedPill27/10/24 12:14 AM
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Attachment theory is a decades old documented and studied concept: but be careful about doing the reddit habit of treating these things like they are new age magic once they become mainstream knowledge.
/r/ExRedPill26/10/24 12:16 AM
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was it all of his human trafficking that tipped you off?
/r/ExRedPill26/10/24 12:13 AM
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You have a generation that mostly relies on dating apps, which have always sucked from the get go. That generation also goes out less and seems to take online stupidity seriously as badly as an elderly person does. There are also some public figures that made careers, sometimes political careers, over pissing people off and keeping them pissed off. That is a recipe for disaster.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/24 06:10 PM
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Dating gurus started sounding angrier and angrier, especially since the gamergate culture warrior guys started getting louder in 2016, and became a very obvious cash cow to milk.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/24 05:53 PM
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"Gurus", instructors, etc are a dime a dozen and there is no point in keeping track of these people. Yes, a lot of PUA and redpill instructors stage their videos. That is why they have workable camera angles in places that no one can hide a camera. Body language comes off unnatural and women always stop everything they are doing in this random spot on a sidewalk, rather than walking and chatting with the guy or something. No one trips out about a guy apparently loitering at night with a camera h…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/24 05:49 PM
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the fact that you call it "cold approach" makes me need to ask: what kind of stuff do you say?
/r/ExRedPill23/10/24 09:09 PM
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Redpillers make a lot of weird nonsensical claims to keep you around. These claims grasp at straws. The idea is to throw a lot of weak claims at you so you think they add up into a strong claim. "That person working at starbucks, that asdistant manager of Mcdonalds? The salesperson at Walmart? All women, and therefore, we are becoming less masculine."
/r/ExRedPill20/10/24 06:30 PM
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oh, that's just weird conservatives that believe in reagonomics to lift then out of poverty. Those people will get wellfare and claim the problem is other people getting welfare. It's always some "other" group that somehow made their family poor. Immigrants somehow made their family become coalminers and immigrants somehow made coal obsolete. The truth is, these people want someone simple and vulnerable to blame. They can start blaming corporations, which seem invincible and that they can do not…
/r/ExRedPill17/10/24 06:02 PM
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I would have, but only because I have found another similar scam, "pickup artists". In both of these, what got me out was noticing that everyone else that was in it for a long time was bad with women, despite the promises of getting great with women. Besides that, there was weird salesy stuff done to recruits, similar to a pyramid scheme and the pushy approach trying to claim this is the one true thing. Both also sold this whole thing as some kind of power fantasy. Also, both did absolutely noth…
/r/ExRedPill17/10/24 05:21 PM
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You should not engage with nonsense from scammers. Some nonsense is so removed from reality that it no longer even addresses the questions it initially tried to answer.
/r/ExRedPill17/10/24 04:26 AM
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I would like to have been told early that this is a scam that solves nothing.
/r/ExRedPill17/10/24 04:23 AM
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easy: don't go out with these particular women. not all women have the same preferences. Also, just because a person, man or woman, says that something is their preference does not mean that is all they would date, or if they would realistically date that person at all. Do not fall into the trap of assuming that all women are the same and want the same things.
/r/ExRedPill17/10/24 04:22 AM
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Your mind "fogged by the left"? It sounds like at some point, he did not get his way on something, and he thinks this is all about "my team vs your team". Some people get into redpill when it dons on them that their sheltered life is not macho, and they need some way to be both sheltered while feeling macho. Is that his case?
/r/ExRedPill15/10/24 06:00 PM
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You may have a different experience with redpill people than I do. My experience with guys in "the red pill" and PUA is that they are guys that grew up rich, and at some point, realized that in being pampered, never learned how to be masculine and macho. They realize their hands are too soft, metaphorically speaking. Thus, they seek out people that talk big and claim to sell macho, and fall into redpill.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/24 06:13 PM
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People are at their most assholish while they are in high school.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/24 06:08 PM
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tell us about him. what spurred on this sudden weirdness? How old is he? What is his overall life like? Is he constantly online?
/r/ExRedPill14/10/24 06:04 PM
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I walked away from redpill because most redpillers were negative, angsty, drama addicted, racist, and stupid enough not to realize that ben shapiro and charlie kirks pull stuff out of their asses. They seemed to take pride and in their misery, looking for new reasons to be miserable constantly . Even a lot of conservatives, the smarter ones, separate from charlie kirk because he makes them look bad. It sounds like your bf think this is all some kind of package deal and is trying to chase a macho…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/24 04:14 AM
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High drama women exist and high drama men exist. Not all of them are like that. Now if people are, say, under 23, they tend to be more likely to be high drama, bonus at under 20. And yes, there are high drama guys. You just might be less likely to notice it because you are not dating them.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/24 06:51 PM
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Redpill influencers want you to always percieve drama and betrayal ao you are likely to come back to the redpill influencers for answers.
/r/ExRedPill12/10/24 10:49 PM
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By the way, 17 is not late at dating scene. A lot of people simply don't date in high school. It's easier to make bonds in college because none of those high school cliques or reputations follow you, and you get a fresh start.
/r/ExRedPill11/10/24 04:32 PM
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Redpill advertising and preaching is intentionally tailored in a way to get you to keep reading it, make up some stuff to shock you, then claim to sell the cure. This gives them revenue through ebook sales and ad clicks. It's a scam. These guys know they are full of crap. That stuff is tailored to make you mad, even if you know it is BS. It's worded to push emotional buttons and stick in your head. That is why these people claim that women don't like you are actually out getting railed by other …
/r/ExRedPill09/10/24 09:18 PM
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It's possible for anyone to be a bad texter. I am a guy and I am a bad texter.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/24 09:15 PM
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so you are doing what is black and white thinking: you are thinking in extremes of all (insert gender here) do this. Roughly about half the human species on Earth. Also, you are labeling other guys as bad without knowing them well. So an interesting thing about misogyny: it makes misogynists find reasons to hate other guys. Also, people are different outside of high school, so do not base your world view on high school. High school is when people are at their cringiest.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/24 09:08 PM
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A lot of the PUA classes are pyramid schemes. That's why so many of the students get so preachy: They get comission for recruiting. The tik tok PUAs are probably the same way.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/24 09:04 PM
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It's because social media, such as tiktok, favors content that gets a lot of engagement, and maligned content gets a lot of engagement.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/24 12:37 AM
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Not all PUA is unified. There are even PUA franchises that other PUAs find to be too extreme or insane. Tiktok is full of cringeposting for attention. Overly staged PUA videos, with hired actors, are not a new thing, either. I can not even tell which of that stuff, if any, is real. But seriously, people were picking up on each other before the internet was invented. If you are looking at tiktok, then of course it's performative. Besides, no normal person films that stuff. If someone is filming (…
/r/ExRedPill08/10/24 09:27 PM
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So as you mention, that is a major problem with the "pickup artist" people: they are taught a script and on their terms, and to be overly stringent. These people paid over a thousand dollars each for a bootcamp, possibly multiple bootcamps, and it's between doing this or admitting they wasted that money. I used to encounter PUAs a lot. They spend more time trying to get rid of and cockblock other guys than actually talking to women. They think this will make women see them as "alpha" as opposed …
/r/ExRedPill07/10/24 09:00 PM
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That is just creepy though. Picking up a woman is not the same as organizing an outing at a college campus just to pick up on college girls. Also, pickup artist stuff is not made to work, it's a scam for money. That is why these guys are taught to make long annoying speeches while sounding like weirdos. picking this apart: If you are just lurking to pick up, and nothing else, it will change how you act. It will make you act with a desperate vibe. The age difference is obvious. College women most…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/24 05:10 PM
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By the way, the area you are at is a big factor. For example, if you are in a college town, and most of the women are around 20, and you are 24, you will get some unique challenges.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 08:48 PM
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Avoid seeing women or men as a monolith. There are ugly people with spouses, so looks are not everything. That does not mean looks may not factor, but they are not everything. There are individuals that really lower their visual standards for personality. Some individuals take the best what they can get. Some individuals have personalities, presence, etc that it actually improves their looks. Some individuals will go for looks and not care about personality much. Some individuals gold dig and ig…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 05:54 PM
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Calling it cold approach is stupid and shows that someone sold you a bag of BS by sounding clinical and talking big. Stop trying to use a "system". Get used to getting to know people in the ways that human beings do. Systems are stupid and designed to get your money, not actually work. Don't assume that everyone will vibe with you, and don't assume that everyone attractive is your "type". You, yourself, might not be the one feeling it, and that is ok. It is ok to walk away, but try to keep the e…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 05:28 PM
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for one thing, call it "picking up", not "cold approach", drop the overly clinical sounding wording that redpill tries to use to sound legitimate. Get the weird redpill mindsets out of your head. Stop attaching your own value and self acceptance to the outcome of these attempts. Stop putting attractive or cute women on a pedestal. Stop assuming they have particular traits you want in a partner because they happen to be cute. Also, be mindful of who you are trying to pick up. If you are 24, and t…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 05:22 PM
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When you get out of reddit, redpill is often seen as interchangeable with incel. It's not exactly something to strive to be.
/r/ExRedPill03/10/24 05:06 AM
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The red pill just is not for nonwhite men. A huge subset of the members believe in "replacement theory". Why should you take self help advice from someone that simply thinks you should not be alive? Also, the red pill's idea of masculinity is goofy, and meant to market to people that never touch grass. The redpill, while marketing as masculinity, includes a lot of hating of other men.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/24 11:06 PM
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because other redpillers just seemed to be angsty, ineffective, useless, racist, and without any idea of how the world works. A good chunk of them were trust funders that were bitter that their parents' money did not solve everything. I had enough life experience to know that those people would drag me down. I also very quickly noticed the red pill was just about finding or inventing new reasons to be constantly pissed off.
/r/ExRedPill27/09/24 10:42 PM
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Find a constructive purpose, seek out hobbies, maybe even a crafting hobby. It's ok to nerd out on stuff. You're also young enough where a lot of that stuff is way more acceptable, even encouraged. If it looks hard, youtube how people do it and see if you can overcome the challenges. Find stuff you enjoy, stuff that makes you smile when you see the results.
/r/ExRedPill27/09/24 10:32 PM
3

You might be addicted to having an obsession.
/r/ExRedPill27/09/24 08:17 PM
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Of the people that downvoted, I would be curious to read what you have to say.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/24 11:13 PM
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I think the vast majority of people on it just lie constantly for validation.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/24 10:09 PM
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You are thinking in black and white "all or zero men do this" and "all or zero women do that mindsets". Of course you can find examples of any negative behavior, but applying this to roughly half the species on a planet of billions of people is nonsense. If someone made a weird manifesto about how all autistic guys do some bevahior, and we find a few that did, should we assume that 100% of autistic guys do that behavior, including you? Get out of the black and white thinking. And here is the thi…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/24 05:52 PM
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I disagree with people's views against "cold approach", but to an extent. It's easier if you have some kind of interaction first, or something you have in common. But it is harder in today's antisocial post pandemic world where people simply do not go out as much, and their social skills reflect that. While you have anxiety, keep in mind that a lot of other people, including women, also have anxiety. Remember: do not put anyone, especially that you have never met, on a pedestal. do not assume th…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/24 05:43 PM
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Just say women, or women from the US. I get that some redpillers vibe when you say "western culture" or "the west", but it's not for good reasons.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/24 03:13 AM
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Ohhh. Lets put it this way: it's weird to call them "western women".
/r/ExRedPill24/09/24 10:26 PM
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"Western women". Seriously man, get out more. Stop calling them "western women". Part because of the black and white thinking, part because you are repeating a cringey dogwhistle. A big part of life is realizing that online lingo is just online.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/24 02:26 AM
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Her past partner is not messing with you. You are messing with you. If it wasn't him, you would find something else. Stop it. You are looking for something to torture yourself with or even sabotage things for yourself. Stop it right now. Grow up. Also, Gen Z has less hookups than previous generations, even less than baby boomers, so hookup culture is even less of a thing than it was for your grandparents' generation. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-08-03/young-adults-less-sex-gen-z…
/r/ExRedPill24/09/24 02:15 AM
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The manosphere "stacy" archetype is made up by the manosphere as a way to make a manosphere guy blame women for himself not getting laid. Even the word "chad" was originally a derogatory word from manosphere people, basically blaming those other guys for dating women. A lot of the manosphere is about blaming and dehumanizing other people. These are not natural things in the extent that manosphere makes them.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/24 04:58 PM
1

Everyone has some irrational bias about people by appearance, and some people do more than others. Even I have some biased based on appearance, and can even recall times I made bad judgement calls based on this. What I mean by "black and white" is the assumption that all women or zero women are golddiggers, basically the all-or-nothing assumptions. I guarantee you that if you found 10 women right now and talked to them, you would find 10 distinct personalities, priorities, sets of opinions, and …
/r/ExRedPill23/09/24 04:43 AM
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Why so redpill men hate so many other men so much? Because redpill is designed to breed hate and latch onto hate for ad revenue and ebook sales.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/24 04:34 AM
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Redpill is full of baity salespitches which are tailored to make you feel worse and unsettled after reading them. These especially have an inpact on neurodivergent individuals with black and white thought patterns. How do you feel redpill seeped into the mainstream?
/r/ExRedPill23/09/24 04:33 AM
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Get out of the black-and-white mindset of "all women are gold digger" vs "no women are gold diggers". Some gold diggers do exist, but not all women are gold diggers. This still does not even fit redpill caricatures: RFK is an ugly out of shape man with no charm or "Alpha" behaviors, he just spouts idiotic conspiracy theories while living off his family's wealth and throwing his family's money around. He could not survive out in the real world. Nuzzi is a conservative writer, she may have also be…
/r/ExRedPill20/09/24 08:37 PM
1

All economic systems require people to work, though some people do need to work harder than others just to survive and make ends meet. Our human population is just too high to be sustained by the majority adopting a hunter gatherer lifestyle. It's ok to be disillusioned with economic systems. It's probably better not to accept any canned economic system as-is.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/24 09:18 PM
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I started with PUA, and that lasted for a few weeks at the most. I had an OK sex life before going in, and then after meeting the PUA people, seeing the PUAs talk about sex and dating like those are rare things for only the elite of elite men, and seeing them struggle and be unable to actually enjoy any kind of experience, I realized it was a scam and I left fast before my bank account suffered. I got in because the internet marketing painted them as being able to walk into places and pick up on…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/24 06:07 PM
2

It's redpill. They hate older women. They have an angst against yet thirst for younger women. A good chunk of redpillers believe in replacement theory. It's because anger, angst, hatred, and bitterness is all the redpill has. If there was a weird ideology that pushed people to actually live happy lives, it is doubtful that hating would be compatible with it.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/24 07:43 PM
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OP: gish gallop of doomspeak. everyone else: actual counterpoints OP: "nuh uhhhh."
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 10:51 PM
4

OP is just picking an argument and just wants the last word, even if he does not make any actual points.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 10:32 PM
85

Do you think there are no guys that settle or cheat or leave their spouses?Do you think there are no happy couples because you were doomscrolling in reddit? Do you think 100% of women are on r/confessions? Do you think that reddit is representative of the population at all? Hopefully, you answered no to all of those.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 03:26 AM
6

if you meet someone with a laundry list of requirements, then simply don't go out with them. literally no one will meet those requirements and you are under no obligation to please them. a laundry list of requirements is a huge redflag. and you should not be trying to adopt those women's mindsets.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 11:12 PM
6

You straight up mentioned holding on to the "what does... have to offer" mindset. You seem to think you are doing everything right. Why bother making the original post?
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 10:33 PM
6

We assumed it because it is a redpill catchphrase. It is also an overall toxic and combative mindset to even hold.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 08:32 PM
5

A guy does not have to be a constant chauffeur for the woman he is dating. It sounds like you have just made bad assumptions about other guys because you view yourself as such a "nice guy".
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 08:30 PM
7

If someone asked me what I bring to the table, I would tell them to go fuck themself.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 08:27 PM
5

Up until the absurd incident of the "real social dynamics" guy being filmed telling guys to grab random japanese women and pull the women's hair down to the guys' crotches and yell "Pikachu" [yup, he did that], most people that heard of PUA did not question it. Me, I was in that stupidity beforehand and quickly realized it does not work, and I saw the pyramid scheme for what it was. But PUA people had straight up flooded the internet with ads, often with a video of the "guru" giving a big talkin…
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 06:07 AM
4

most dating coaches are scammers and just copy mystery method.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/24 05:58 AM
2

Have you ever met a redpiller in person? Did they seem happy, or were they constantly looking for new people to blame their problems on or be mad at?
/r/ExRedPill09/09/24 10:04 PM
1

"mogging" is not real, it comes from a series of stupid ideas that originated from a scam.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/24 09:50 PM
16

The modern world of apps is horrible for people over 30, especially guys since the gender ratio is really packed with guys. Anyways, get the "nice guy" thing out of your head, that's black and white thinking. Being a passive aggressive people pleasing indecisive self righteous doormat is not nice, it's just insincere and hard to connect with. I have also seen some very abusive people call themselves "nice". Also, stop putting women on a pedestal . Just because she is cute does not mean she lives…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/24 09:05 PM
5

That whole framing of "high value male" by redpill is a scam to get ad clicks and sell ebooks. If you look at how redpillers are, does that really scream "high value"? These people worship human trafficker Andrew Tate. Also, no one calls you an "incel" for being single, that's a redpill myth. People call you an incel if you talk like a redpiller (getting entitled and blaming all women as a communal entity for your problems, and acting like you are owed sex). Intrusive thoughts are something you …
/r/ExRedPill09/09/24 08:56 PM
1

This whole dynamic is all in your head.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/24 03:50 AM
8

more from chatgpt: Here's a post specifically tackling the flawed assumption that all women have high body counts, which is a common misconception in redpill/blackpill ideology: Let’s Talk About the "High Body Count" Assumption It’s really common in certain online spaces, particularly those influenced by redpill/blackpill ideology, to hear the claim that most women — especially those in their late 20s and beyond — have extremely high numbers of sexual partners. This belief often leads to anxieti…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/24 08:14 PM
8

You have what is referred to as "polarized thought", framing things in erroneously black and white ways. You also absorbed way too much redpill crap and treat it as absolute proof. I am letting chatgpt do the rest: Here's a suggested post that points out why the person should reconsider the redpill/blackpill mindset, highlighting the parts of their argument that reflect these ideologies and addressing the logical errors in those views: Why You Should Reconsider Redpill/Blackpill Thinking I get t…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/24 08:13 PM
12

Part of growing up is learning to get over generational baggage. If he is out fighting his parents' gender wars forever, that is no way to live. How old are you two?
/r/ExRedPill05/09/24 08:27 PM
5

Redpill is weird. So you get into it and a bunch of guys pretend to be rich and successful with women. You meet these guys in person, many of them turning out to barely ever go out, and they just make stuff up constantly to try to impress other guys.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/24 07:22 PM
35

Andrew Tate is a human trafficker and he says that having sex with women is "gay". He's a joke. Copy pasting this old post of mine again about the redpill being ragebait, you might find things similar to andrew tate's BS: ragebait is addicting. However, a lot of these videos are also made to start mild, even sounding rational in the beginning, then escalating to ragebait and "only our method can solve this!" type talking. Also, these people rehearse this and they take time writing things that wi…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/24 06:03 PM
1

main takeaways: 1 The people that write this stuff and make money on this stuff, through ads and ebooks, do not actually believe in it. That's why their arguments sound very bad faith when you break them down, and just sound like they are made to evoke emotion rather than use any logic. It is not meant to be correct, it is meant to sell. 2 It is marketed towards insecure young guys, and is tailored to push the right buttons to get their attention. "If you read our BS, you can be an alpha male wi…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/24 05:01 PM
2

That is intentional. Redpill creates a problem and then claims to be the cure so the people come back to it.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/24 07:57 PM
11

To say "manosphere" as an entity is hard, but a good chunk and possible majority of its members do. Due to the manosphere attracting far right nuts, that seem to push replacent theory and root for any cop that kills unarmed black people, there is a large amount of racism.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/24 07:54 PM
7

So we are taking out the always present racial aspects to move the goalposts.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/24 07:52 PM
2

Oh yeah, I turned off Facebook reels because it was giving me that stuff by default, especially by some really pathetic wimpy looking guys on a show called "Whatever", giving the most incel talking points ever.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/24 10:24 PM
2

Yup, constantly. I have no idea if this is coincidence or if these people figured out how to manipulate the algorithm.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/24 10:13 PM
1

Dating apps suck and you should not rely on them. Learn to meet women in person. I get that it is different post pandemic.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/24 06:09 PM
2

so I missed it before he deleted it. what did he say?
/r/ExRedPill28/08/24 06:27 AM
7

OK, tell us about yourself. Speech impediment, staring problem, constantly bringing up awkward conversations, traumadumping on first impressions, horrible phantom of the opera esque scar? What exactly makes you a 2? And tell us more about yourself. Hobbies, education level, career aspects?
/r/ExRedPill27/08/24 07:06 PM
3

Most men do not follow redpill and it comes off weird and nuts to most adult men. Redpill is ragebait for ad clicks and ebook sales, and it is tailored to compell you to read more of it. Even when you know it is BS, it is written in a way that some of it stays in your head. Don't read it. Seriously. Go outside, touch grass, see that the world is different from how redpillers paint it. Also, your dad is way too old to be reading that incel BS. What's his problem? Also, remember: most guys do not …
/r/ExRedPill27/08/24 07:01 PM
3

It's marketable. The first thing to keep in mind is that redpill is not meant to work or help anyone, it is meant to make money through ebook sales and ad clicks. The target audience is gullible young guys that do not get out or socialize much. The redpill also makes rhetoric to make sex seem essential, and tries to make it sound like other men will constantly judge a guy by his sex life and read it on him. That is why you see a lot of redpillers and former redpillers drastically exaggerate thei…
/r/ExRedPill26/08/24 09:18 PM
4

do these harmful behaviors have any kind of stress related triggers? are they subtle panic responses? Also, be a little more specific. Also, remember: no one is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, and these things sometimes take time to get yourself repeating good habits.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/24 04:34 PM
14

the fact that you said she "fucked" a bartender, instead of saying she went out with a bartender, is the problem. That's weird and redpill. Drop the redpill stuff, it will weigh you down. If you had a nice guy phase, acknowledge that you may have some tendency to see things in black and white and may need to get out of that, since it will weigh you down as well.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/24 12:52 AM
1

Are there other major stressers in your life that could be getting in your way?
/r/ExRedPill22/08/24 11:59 PM
5

Redpill is not really meant to fix anything. It is meant to make people mad, then promise to sell the cure via ad sponsored videos and ebooks. It's a scam.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/24 11:54 PM
-8

I never endorsed someone considering themself an "alpha". If you want to talk about toxic masculinity, then say toxic masculinity; but if you just talk about masculinity, even hyper masculinity, and escape to the "oh, I was just talking about toxic masculinity", then you are just backtracking.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 07:18 PM
7

Is this a random man hating thread? There are more suitable subreddits for that.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 07:14 PM
11

marketing. I was getting jordan peterson ads on YouTube despite having zero relevant content on my history.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 04:54 PM
-6

Oh brother, seriously, stigmatizing being a macho guy is cringe. Being a macho guy is not the same as the redpill. Ironically, while redpillers may claim to idolize macho guys, they also tend to hate and complain about macho guys, since they believe macho guys are out hogging all the women. The word "chad" was originally derogatory.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 04:52 PM
14

There are some things a bit harder to absorb, but you kind of have to. People just do not flirt as much since pandemic. People's social skills are worse since the pandemic. You are not the only awkward person, several women are also awkward. Not every social cue has a deep meaning, especially since so many people are awkward since the pandemic. A lot of people, including women, have similar insecurities as you. A big part is not putting women on a pedestal, another is not assuming that all women…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 04:46 PM
2

marketing and sounding sure of their own words, even the ones that are BS. These people rehearse sounding sure of themselves while saying BS.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 10:15 PM
1

I am a guy. Here is a mind hack: talk to people and think of them as blank slates, that you know nothing about. get pieces of their personalities and likes by what they say. Try not to judge by their attractiveness or cuteness, or the way they talk. Filter out gebder, race, social class, accent, etc. Hear their actual words and go entirely by that.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/24 05:15 PM
4

the fact that he says this to other people and not to you sounds worse.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/24 08:59 PM
15

practice and talking to a lot of people, offline, will make it easier to humanize individuals. That is why the biggest bigots seem to be socially isolated.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/24 08:56 PM
2

Being a redpiller is bad. But you are asking us how to change and customize your boyfriend, and I have a lot of dislike of that. If you really want to continue this path, then there will be a point in which he says women are whatever, and you will have to straight up ask "Do you think I am whatever?" mention this includes you. It might not go your way, but at least you will know what you are dealing with.
/r/ExRedPill18/08/24 07:18 PM
14

Anyone can write a book. That does not make the book correct.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/24 11:21 PM
3

her homeless family? has that pitted them against each other? Are the inlaws bringing up negative atheist stereotypes? A person's toxic family members can ruin a relationship if they are not kept at an appropriate distance.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/24 06:02 PM
2

is he having marriage problems?
/r/ExRedPill13/08/24 08:11 PM
8

Your brother is way too old for that. Your brother is especially too old to be worrying about high school social stuff: high school social stuff ends the moment you graduate. The fact that he still dwells on his perceived high school reputation is his problem. He also seems to take no responsibility in his actions on this, believing that the problem is everyone else. Your brother has major issues that extend beyond the redpill. He needs to grow up and move on. He has kids, he has responsibilitie…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/24 09:04 PM
2

"leagues" is a concept way older than redpill, but not one to take too seriously. We have all seen some very attractive women with guys that were ugly and broke, we have seem some successful women with guys that were broke, etc. However, if you never shower, you say annoying things around people, you never groom your hair, you wear old ugly clothes , and you do not have an income, you are probably not going to get with a supermodel. This is also very subjective: there are different standards of …
/r/ExRedPill12/08/24 04:56 PM
20

She is an awful individual, but do not go to redpill and blackpill. Those people will just say things to make you as angry and depressed as possible while never actually helping you.
/r/ExRedPill12/08/24 01:53 AM
0

OK, so his mom is in on it. It sounds like he was dumping you, but in a way that was inconsiderately roundabout. Pick up your stuff, speak in a month, only communication is a letter, that's not normal. They were getting rid of you. i don't know about the charges or subsequent interactions you had with him: You say trauma bonding and I do not know the full extent or even if it was truely two sided. But it sounds like he was dumping you in a very cowardly way. Your communication has a mindset that…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/24 07:48 PM
2

how did he charge you with harassment? What was the particular incident like? This seems like one of those things that would normally be a restraining order, as opposed to trial, so was it a major incident?
/r/ExRedPill11/08/24 05:47 AM
3

It is ok to bring up race, I have been in social circles in which people put down or make passive aggressive comments about my race. I have also lived in a particularly racist area in which many of the women put down my race: and racists are not always the loud kkk types like we are led to believe. I get that it's reddit and redditers tend to downplay the day to day impact of racism. look, if it gets bad enough, and individuals make you feel shitty about your place in the world due to your race,…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/24 09:34 PM
22

A big part of it is that these guys want to feel like they belong to a group, which is why they make this stuff their whole identity and try to bond online with people that do the same.
/r/ExRedPill07/08/24 08:45 PM
3

because we see a lot of ugly guys with girlfriends and wives. Sure, an ugly guy is less likely to get an Instagram model, but not every woman is an Instagram model. We also see a lot of redpillers, who tend to think in extreme black and white, using looks as a cop out.
/r/ExRedPill05/08/24 02:12 AM
3

fresh and fit are awful, toxic, full of moral failings, and full of character failings, but seriously do not normalize unattractiveness shaming on a page full of people that think they themselves are too ugly to ever attract a partner. It's very toxic. Toxicity does not purify toxicity
/r/ExRedPill04/08/24 11:25 PM
24

You're 17, way too young to be worrying about this. And avoid the redpill crap: you will notice the needy overtones of it.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/24 11:22 PM
2

It sounds like you made up a scenario and use it to drive some rivalry which exists only in your head. By the way, no one other than losers cares about your "body count". You're 28 and you do not live in a cringey teen sex comedy.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/24 09:34 PM
4

Why are you even here?
/r/ExRedPill04/08/24 09:33 PM
7

This is your social circle. That is the answer. Also, dating apps have vast majority guys.
/r/ExRedPill02/08/24 04:30 PM
5

I see your points. How do you communicate with someone in these mindsets about this kind of subject? Thinking differently is one thing, but a good chunk of them seem to be under the impression that most people think like them. It seems hard to explain that most people think differently .
/r/ExRedPill01/08/24 07:09 PM
8

Why are there so many redpillers that view this as "100% based on looks" vs "100% based on personality"?
/r/ExRedPill31/07/24 09:52 PM
2

Some women will take not-following-up-and-messaging as rejection, by the way. just throwing that out there.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/24 09:06 PM
11

I met redpillers in person and they were losers. They also were killjoys. The final straw was all the weird alt righters it attracted.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/24 03:22 PM
3

You are doing the literal opposite of my advice. lol. But, it's different when it is happening to you instead of to someone else, so I get that. In the old days, facebook had a "poke" feature for when we had no idea where to take this.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/24 03:29 AM
3

She might like you, she might not. But this is something to discuss while sober. She was drunk and you were not comfortable with the situation, since this happened completely out of nowhere and you were caught offguard. You tried to respect boundaries and played it safe since you were not sure if her sober self would be ok with this. Don't worry about what your friends think, it sounds like you kept it from going too far. Follow up, say hi or send a meme at least.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/24 12:19 AM
5

To add, I kind of stuck around the redpill pages for a little bit, even after noticing the redpillers I met in person were losers, but the very last straw was when white supremacy BS got so embraced. The same thing happened with MRAs.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 08:49 PM
2

on facebook, see if he is in the public comment section of any news story on a marvel movie, and see if he randomly calls things "too woke". See if he gets abnoxious to people that simply said they liked the movie.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 08:45 PM
3

Why are you even here? Black pill boards are the other way.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 08:42 PM
3

Dating apps generally have worse people than you would find out in the world. But a first step for yourself: get out of the scarcity mindset of seeing women as these rare beings and seeing every woman as your last chance.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 08:40 PM
2

Did you get all this from reading stuff from weird angry toxic people online or did you come to these assumptions on your own? If you came to this on your own, do you habitually get jealous of random people for random things?
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 08:36 PM
3

Oh, is redpill+blackpill content helping your dating or making you feel better? No? Then stop consuming it, it is tailored to make you feel worse and claim it can fix the problems it just gave you. In general, dating gets easier if you get used to socializing with other people, especially women, in regular non dating scenarios: humanizing women, realizing they are individuals and not all looking for reasons to hate you, will help a lot. This will also give you a bigger social circle. You even ge…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 02:48 AM
4

It sounds like he is mostly a fan of authoritarianism.
/r/ExRedPill26/07/24 01:15 AM
2

For a good example of why not to cater to andrew tate, you can look at what his fans are like.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/24 12:59 PM
1

As long as you shower, get haircuts, and are wearing clean clothes, then you are not bottom of the barrel unattractive; and I have met women that even found those things negotiable. Ew.
/r/ExRedPill24/07/24 06:14 PM
1

Dude, you were not a pua, just a flirt. lol. If you feel like you went overboard, then hey, we can chat. "PUA" is a way more specific thing that usually just uses or mostly copies "Mystery Method". There were some more toxic pyramid schemes branching from this such as "real social dynamics" (the one started by the guy that bragged he would pull the heads of japanese women, that he did not know, down to his crotch in public and yell "Pikachu"). Those guys do a lot of weird stuff that comes off st…
/r/ExRedPill23/07/24 11:52 PM
1

You did not really answer me. Being flirty is not being a PUA.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/24 11:34 PM
2

Wait, did you really do the "PUA" thing? Did you go around "AMOGing" guys?
/r/ExRedPill23/07/24 11:17 PM
13

Andrew Tate is a convicted human trafficker and con artist. He is not someone to cater to. He is not a classy guy. He is someone to keep 18 and 19 year old women away from, lest he pimp them out. Seriously, do not lump other men with Andrew Taint and do not assume he speaks for men.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/24 07:59 PM
2

I know some bald guys that do well with women. If you have a receding hairline, shave it off. Also, the redpill works by wording things in shocking ways to make you feel like shit, then it claims to be the cure for the shit it made you feel like. Don't consume it.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/24 06:49 PM
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I got out of redpill as soon as I met redpillers in person and could tell they were losers. They constantly talked about women and had no other priorities in life, nothing else to look forward to. They talked about sex like it is a rare thing that very few men get, and talked about women like they are some elusive destructive alien beings. They all talked big, trying to impress each other, though sounding awkward the whole time. I suppose that's why the redpill is mostly online: When you meet th…
/r/ExRedPill21/07/24 11:09 PM
7

misogynist is specific. A major general douche red flag is someone that is nasty to customer service people.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/24 10:58 PM
3

Where did you come across this profile? Was there a lot of copypasta posts? There are redpill women, there are ven some former redpill women on this page. However, if someone is that open about it on their profile, then they are probably selling something. There are also weird "culture war" believers that think redpill is a requirement for conservativism, or at least their brand of conservativism.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/24 10:50 PM
4

it depends how far these people are, by the way: not all the preachers+salespeople+influencers of the redpill actually believe in it, and many just see it as a cashcow. These people will have memorized canned talking points and even canned ways to disengage when they are losing a debate, to avoid looking worse. The believers are often constantly online, and may have black-or-white thinking. They may use canned talking points, bad memes, and some copy+pasted deep sounding but BS statements, These…
/r/ExRedPill21/07/24 03:42 AM
9

Their whole argument will fall apart when they claim to simultaneously look for a family and a harem of 20 year old virgins. It's just a ragebait talking point for these people.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/24 08:32 PM
9

If he believes in replacement theory, you get what you get. If he thinks minorities existing is some conspiracy against him, but the dealbreaker is his stance on abortion, that is on you.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/24 08:30 PM
5

Do you really think conservative women never have any sex outside of relationships? Touch grass.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/24 08:24 PM
5

keep in mind that whatever you watch, do not let it change you or get into your head. These people polish their stuff to be as ragebaity as possible, and it is made to get into your head, even if you know it to be nonsensical. Even the videos, where they debate with 19/20 year old women, are heavily edited and made to give the podcasters camera angles chosen to seem favorable. here is a link to an old post where I explain how redpill works by baiting with something that seems normal sounding (ie…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/24 04:37 PM
6

Would being straight add any legitimacy to their BS?
/r/ExRedPill18/07/24 08:15 PM
6

A very specific aspect of this to attack is the concept of "alpha male"/"beta male", stolen from mystery method, with the similar rhetoric of "follow me and throw money at me and you too can be an alpha male". Oddly, that concept has always been used as a way to hate and resent other men, ever since the days of mystery method. In fact, the "Mystery Method" book tries to paint non-PUA Alpha Males Of Groups as bullies, thus to dehumanize these guys for daring to hang out with women.
/r/ExRedPill18/07/24 01:27 AM
14

OK, here is the major one: we can disprove Tomassi's ideas, we can point out the confirmation bias, oversimplification, pandering, forced shock value, angst, and stealing of ideas from Mystery Method, which gets easy to disprove: but the biggest kicker is that Tomassi does not hot actually help people. It just turns them into depressed angsty bitter, hateful, and toxic individuals, seeing enemies everywhere. The teachings are detrimental to mental health and lead only to isolation, resentment, a…
/r/ExRedPill17/07/24 08:21 PM
6

Because we meet a lot of women with broke men, ugly men, etc. Making a huge dogmatic claim of hypergamy carried the burden of needing to be proven, rather than the detractors carrying the burden of disproving it.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/24 08:15 PM
1

Most of us never heard of him. I just googled him and his YouTube description does not paint a sane person. A lot of us avoid podcasters completely. Anyone can be a podcaster, even if they have nothing worthwhile to say. If I wanted to start a podcast claiming that Monopoly game pieces are edible and made of sugar, there is nothing any of you could do to stop me. I get that you are looking for some truth to the universe, but be careful with internet rabbit holes. If someone claims they are part …
/r/ExRedPill15/07/24 04:54 PM
2

Get out of the mindset of "friendzone". That word got taken too seriously and intensely, to a very toxic degree. Sometimes, a woman is interested in a guy, sometimes not. I disagree with both sides of these debates, the "muh friendzone" side and "friends first always" side, because they both paint situations as general rules. Sometimes, a woman will date a guy who was friends first, sometimes a woman will date a guy she met in a flirting context, sometimes a woman will date a guy she met through…
/r/ExRedPill14/07/24 06:58 AM
2

Dating coaches or "gurus" teach you to think in black and white ways that are counterproductive. I would not give my password to a gf either: but even her bringing that up would warrant a serious conversation with her, too nuanced for how dating coaches paint the world.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/24 08:57 PM
1

I am really trying to keep from telling strangers online to breakup. The "masculinity is in danger" guys usually seem to be guys that do not get out much; afterall, if someone sits in playing video games all day, of course he will realize this does not seem particularly macho, and rather than going put and doing something macho, seems to blame external factors. But the redpill is almost entirely about focusing on how scary and horrible women supposedly are, which does not sound particularly mach…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/24 08:10 PM
3

Do you expect to get some kind of congratulations for moving goalposts?
/r/ExRedPill11/07/24 07:59 PM
4

Did I ever claim that no one has more than one sexual partner? What are you trying to prove by sealioning?
/r/ExRedPill11/07/24 07:20 PM
4

Most are not keeping a que of people to sleep with. Some people do have some individuals they hook up with, some people are openly polyamorous, some people just have odd dating situations, etc: but most of these people do not call it a "roster". Calling it a "roster" is cringey, crude, and shows poor socialization. It's not always just about sex: a lot of these people are actually dating each other. Look, a lot of your assumptions are a weird redpill thing: redpill tries to piss you off by claim…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/24 06:05 PM
3

yes and yes. In general, try not to learn lingo from reddit.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/24 05:46 PM
4

Oh, so he basically never had an early 20s trial and error dating phase; then he comes into the world, in his mid 30s and basically new to dating, and thinks some big talking influencers, making ad revenue, have the answers.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 10:22 PM
12

It still seems weird. Is this a weird midlife crisis thing? It's just hard to imagine anyone get into redpill if they go outside on a regular basis or date. Redpill brings people in by baiting with some normal talk and presenting a problem, then saying a bunch of weird shocking stuff to cause a person rage, then claiming to present a solution. Does he think that only women cheat or something? Seriously, what does he think he is getting out of this dumb crap? Please paint a picture, is he a guy t…
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 09:36 PM
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drop the redpill BS, it will only make things worse. most people do not care about your "roster", and most will think you are weird for calling it a "roster". Most sane women will not look for "social proof". There is a world outside of reddit. It's not like linkedin, you don't need to show a resume.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 08:59 PM
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Is he a weird right wing guy that got into it because he thinks it is necessary for conservativism? Does he call random things "too woke"? Does he seem to be unable to enjoy movies and TV shows, convinced that they are all "too woke"? Does he think anyone is trying to "replace" him?
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 08:55 PM
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The whole concept of calling this "cold approach", "day game", etc: that's the problem. Ditch these stupid systems. It's way harder to vibe with someone when trying to do long routines and expect them to react by some script. Part of it is overthinking, part of it is being so roundabout that a woman will not even think the guy is interested or worth time. Part of it is sounding straight up weird. Part of it is the unwillingness to read a vibe and part ways on good terms when it's not going to ha…
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 07:40 PM
5

When you have parents that have some major issues, it gets hard to know what to expect from other people and what boundaries to set for both yourself and them.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 07:15 PM
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because it is marketable to young guys that will click for ad revenue.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 06:39 PM
4

OP's not coming back, is he?
/r/ExRedPill09/07/24 05:47 PM
2

here is a big one: it you find a place, do not tell a bunch of redpill or PUA guys about it. Those guys will flood a place fast and they will vastly outnumber and annoy the women. I have seen this happen repeatedly.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/24 11:35 PM
5

If someone is willing to intentionally scam fellow humans with advice that they know to be defective and will make people's lives worse, it is safe to say they will have worse morals and behavior than most other people.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/24 11:32 PM
1

You are overthinking, based on reading some comments from some very angry individual women with adversarial mindsets. However, women are not a monolith, and you should stop assuming that all of them think like these adversarial individuals. Meet people in person, talk to people in person, and you realize there is a huge variety of mindsets and personalities out there. If someone is ranting about a person's "value" or "sexual marketplace" or some weird crap like that, don't date them, no matter w…
/r/ExRedPill08/07/24 11:29 PM
3

Stop reading redpill and blackpill content. Someone intentionally lied to you about what is in that article.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/24 11:22 PM
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I have stopped mid-way before when I was with a woman that had a very smelly room, like a mix of gym socks and cheap weed. Look, weird encounters are pretty normal. You will likely not be as bad as the guy in that post because it sounds like he just has a toxic marriage with an asshole. If she can not let the guy enjoy a baseball game, then she is just a horrible person to be around. I don't mean just in sex, I mean as an overall partner in life. How did you even find that weird thread? Also, I …
/r/ExRedPill08/07/24 10:36 PM
2

Yup. Though I do think it is counterproductive to just bag on him without explaining what is wrong with his type of questions. Some people will even double down on their previous way of thinking if they just perceive a bunch of strangers randomly bagging on them, and it may even come off as gatekeepy. Some guys get into the redpill because they erroneously view it as a comfortable tribe, and if they view the other side as being hostile, they may just relapse. Sometimes, we have to put ourselves …
/r/ExRedPill05/07/24 09:44 PM
3

look, you are probably only 18 or a shut-in, maybe both. I am going to spell out why people are bagging on you, and I will try to explain this as cleanly as possible so that maybe I can copy paste this in the future. +being skinny does not automatically make a woman view herself as unattainable , above everyone, or even attractive. +"skinny" is subjective so no one has any idea what you mean. +there is no minimum hotness and no absolute cause and effect. There are things that will increase your …
/r/ExRedPill05/07/24 06:12 PM
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Age, maturity, experience,and meeting a lot of people. Try to get out of the mindset of scarcity. I guess it gets kind of hard if you work long hours and do not get much out of work time.
/r/ExRedPill04/07/24 12:35 AM
2

learn to communicate needs and boundaries in a non confrontational way. This will also help be a better friend.
/r/ExRedPill03/07/24 04:41 PM
3

I usually avoid dating coaches because most know they are BS, and tend to just be knockoffs of PUA stupidity; I rarely see normal functional dating advice from dating coaches. How are these ones? Folks, if you are going to spend money, you can get better help from speech therapy or social skills outside of dating centric coaches.
/r/ExRedPill03/07/24 04:30 PM
5

There were guys going on here saying that the redpill and blackpill convinced them that woman could never be attracted to them. Are we supposed to just pretend to agree and be all "you're right, you should just give up, we'll console you while you give up"?
/r/ExRedPill29/06/24 05:13 AM
4

Can you link to some examples of people insulting men with "feminine" characteristics on this subreddit? And no one here ever claimed that sexism towards women disappears witbout the redpill. Read the group name: "exredpill". People here talk about leaving the redpill. People here badmouth redpill influencers. People here badmouth redpillers. No one here is claiming that all the world's problems go away without redpill. If you want to talk about getting rid of all the sexism and gender expectati…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/24 05:02 AM
2

I am a guy that has called redpillers losers and I have been downvoted for calling a particularly militant feminist a "toxic nut". I am not going back to redpill. I have hung out with various people, even been to bars with "pickup artists", which is a scam by the way, way before people have heard of the redpill. Your problem is that you seem to think you must choose some tribal identification. I don't agree with everything people say here. Some women will post to read feminist literature and I'm…
/r/ExRedPill29/06/24 04:45 AM
4

Anyone can pay for a youtube ad. Youtube does not verify its ads.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/24 05:36 PM
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Ohhhh. Try not to make your whole life concept at 17. The world outside is way different outside of high school. People in highschool are cringey, self centered, immature, extreme thinking, prone to seeing their small routine space as the world, and overall weird. Most people grow out of all that later. For now, worry about your studies and other stuff. Most people are not popular in high school, and none of that affects you after you graduate; no one outside of high school cares. It sounds like…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/24 09:12 PM
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For one thing, stop consuming black pill or redpill content. Redpill content is ragebait tailored to draw you in, even if you know it is BS. Some will start by saying something normal to not seem weird; then as you read on, it says words and twists things to make you angry and sad; then it claims to be the answer to this. For another thing, and logic: look outside and there are a lot of couples with ugly guys. Also, take care of yourself, not for the women's approval, but for your own self appro…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/24 08:55 PM
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Keep their target audience in mind: often online, depressed, high sense of entitlement, got in due to low confidence or an assumption that these guys spell out how the world is. There are hours of footage for these guys, so pick an underlying disprovable thing that they often claim. You do not have to disprove every single thing, you will lose braincells if you watch all their footage. Some people will defend them using a motte and bailey argument: in this, a person will use a relatively rationa…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/24 08:43 PM
4

I missed it, been busy. Was this one of those asking-but-actually-claiming-and-will-aggressively-defend-position threads? I keep getting tempted to sarcastically say something like "no man under 6'2 has ever had sex", but I stop myself because some of these dudes will believe it.
/r/ExRedPill25/06/24 09:31 PM
1

Do dish. Is this someone you met organically and clicked with, someone you met online and kind of stuck with, someone your friend set you up with? What keeps you with her, is it the emotional connection, mental stimulation, or what? Try to separate from the overly clinical and cynical reddit culture for a bit.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/24 08:49 PM
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It does not have to be, but it is and some of the alt right guys preach redpill to try converting guys to the altright. The main thing is redpill's ragebait, black and white thinking, tendency to see enemies everywhere, lack of empathy, and hatred towards women and fellow men are all factors that make someone more receptive to altright thinking.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/24 07:00 AM
1

We actually do not really talk about porn consumption much on this page, nor do we usually randomly accuse people of being addicts (a few individuals on this subreddit get preachy against porn consumption though): is that something people talk about a lot on other subreddits?
/r/ExRedPill24/06/24 06:56 AM
1

because there is way more to life. Even in a relationship, both people are happier together when they have other things going on instead of being completely codependent.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/24 02:06 AM
1

You make the mistake of conflating sex and relationships as some kind of marker of personal worth.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/24 01:36 AM
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It looks like you are trying your hardest to convince yourself of complete BS with a gish gallop. Is this sincere delusion or just trolling?
/r/ExRedPill21/06/24 06:03 PM
4

Copy pasting. keep in mind this is in the context of talking to people who got way in over their head on a weird manifesto. Do not google any weird terms you see here, do not go down the rabbit hole. also, it was originally posted as a response to a young man whose self esteem was ruined by the redpill. the redpill makes guys less happy too. For context, redpill is a scam. I replaced one word with "cucumber". ragebait is addicting. However, a lot of these videos are also made to start mild, even…
/r/ExRedPill21/06/24 04:31 PM
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How old are you and what is up with the absurd dramatics? Are you just using chatgpt?
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 07:27 PM
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The redpill is not based on any science, it is just a scam to get ad clicks and ebook sales . Detox from it asap. I don't even get why teenagers are reading it. It is intentionally written as ragebait. It is designed that way: the salespitch will start with something mild with something like "men and women are different, read on to learn how". then as you read on, it just says a bunch of [fictional] stuff to make you mad, and it is intentionally worded to stick with you, even if you know it is g…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 07:11 PM
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You did not come with an empty hand, you came with a hand full of assumptions over huge demographics of billions of people, and that is the problem. you did that in your other thread too. Everyone here is telling you that you do that. Have you learned anything at all here?
/r/ExRedPill20/06/24 05:06 PM
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Yes. Depression includes "polarized thought". It creates a heavily distorting bias of "all good" or "all bad". Also, be careful how internet ragebait, especially the redpill sales pitches, work. copy pasting from my reply on a different thread: ragebait is addicting. However, a lot of these videos are also made to start mild, even sounding rational in the beginning, then escalating to ragebait and "only our method can solve this!" type talking. Also, these people rehearse this and they take time…
/r/ExRedPill19/06/24 07:37 PM
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Keep in mind that the manosphere push for virgin women came from some far right propaganda implying that if they win, they each get a submissive barely legal virgin concubine, or a harem of them, without standards for some reason.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/24 05:39 PM
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Oh. Change my view: long ass gish gallop. Maybe it's more accurate to accept the virus definition here.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/24 05:34 PM
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You are talking about yourself and projecting onto everyone else, especially other men. You make a weird assumption that all other men think exactly like you. Most men are not incels. WTF is CMV?
/r/ExRedPill18/06/24 11:58 PM
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I get it. I used to follow some page on facebook making fun of incels, and another page making fun of cringy tinder profiles, and both just got filled with angry women constantly claiming all men are losers, terrible, useless, and were all out to murder women when rejected. There were women claiming they only agreed to bad dates to keep from being murdered. I assumed this was a gen Z thing and I even asked around: not only are those not particularly common viewpoints, it turns out those particul…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/24 06:07 PM
2

The same way people internalize the redpill. If someone reads something shocking enough, even if they know it is possibly nonsense, it sticks with them and rolls in their head. Then they start to wonder how the person came to this conclusion, and they make the big mistake of trying to make sense of it; then poof, thry have internalized nonsense. A lot of angry, often obviously insane, people get followers, cults, voters, etc through this.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/24 05:49 PM
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A mix of depression and toxic online spaces. The dudes are already depressed, feeling helpless, and seeking some guidance: then there are people online filling them with ragebait, giving them a persecution complex and major "us vs them" mindset about it. The truth is the cure is not even necessarily sex: just hanging out with some positive people makes a huge difference. Keep in mind incel stuff is also used as a recruiting tool for the alt right pipeline. Elliot Rogers also killed his male room…
/r/ExRedPill17/06/24 11:13 PM
5

You should probably go do that instead of making abstract troll threads like this.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/24 07:38 PM
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If it sounds like redpill content but gender flipped, skip it. Keep in mind that no one person speaks for their whole demographic. If they mention other groups' struggles but in a passing way of street cred over sincere concern, and they make it about themselves, skip them.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/24 04:22 AM
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Purple pill debate subreddit has a bunch of preachy redpillers just trying to preach the redpill. It is less of a debate forum and more of a preaching/recruitment trap. Pay it no mind.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/24 03:05 AM
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We know that men are different from women. No duh. No one here is saying otherwise. In internet speak, we all know the redpill is that weird ideology that took parts of PUA but got more "us vs them"/gender war in mindsets. pretending the redpill is just "oh, it just means that men and women are different to me" is just pure dishonesty. When you try to defend redpill, on a page called exredpill, around people that have gone through that weird ideology and come out, then claim "oh, it just means m…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/24 06:21 AM
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None of these are redpill. The redpill teaches men to be whiny, not dominant. the redpill also does not make men more money, except for the scammers selling ebooks and getting adclicks. Even those "more selective" things only apply to dating apps, in which a lot of guys just right click on everything. Let me guess, women prefer sportscars, and the redpill will get a guy a sportscar like that weird post was claiming, right?
/r/ExRedPill16/06/24 02:03 AM
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ragebait is addicting. However, a lot of these videos are also made to start mild, even sounding rational in the beginning, then escalating to ragebait and "only our method can solve this!" type talking. Also, these people rehearse this and they take time writing things that will have this pace and tone. These videos are designed to do that. It's not just some guys talking naturally. "Women are different from men and that causes some confusions" {sounding mild and maybe even rational at first} t…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/24 01:56 AM
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For one thing, lets hear where you are meeting these women. There is a huge difference in the experience between going out with a woman you met on an app and going out with a woman you met in class and clicked with. For another thing, stop defining your life by whether or not you have a girlfriend. It's a depression trap. It will change how you view life and even change your behavior in a less attractive way. There's a difference between going out with someone to see if there is a connection and…
/r/ExRedPill14/06/24 07:04 PM
4

look up Immanual Kant on critical thinking and autonomy and enlightenment.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/24 11:54 PM
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Dude, you're 19. Saying "give up" at 19 is way excessive. However, dating at 19 is generally going to be awkward because everyone your age is immature, weird, and very self centered . Dating sites are always going to be weird, and it is better to ask out women you meet in person. No one here is promising that you will get insta girlfriend with anything. A major thing that makes people mention therapy: you are only 19 and giving the doomtalk. Also, stop defining your life by whether or not you ha…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/24 04:48 PM
2

It takes a while. I have fallen into this trap before. It took a while for me to stop putting one particular ex on a pedestal and let it sink in that she is toxic. Until that point, I was thinking about the good parts: but the way she treated me at the end left me in a bad place. Sometimes, you have to be honest with yourself: You will not be happy in the long run if you stay with her.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/24 09:40 AM
3

A lot of ugly guys have girlfriends. You don't have to be perfect.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/24 09:33 AM
3

This really did not go how OP envisioned.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/24 11:59 PM
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Being forward and being the redpill's version of "forward" are not the same thing. Learn to flirt and communicate that this is a date. It's ok to do so, and gives honest expectations. Don't think of any acts as trying to communicate altruism. That's "nice guy points" thinking. You are not wronging or "grooming" a woman by asking her on a date. Look, I get it, you log into the internet, and you find redpillers claiming that you choose between being one of them or being an overly compliant doormat…
/r/ExRedPill12/06/24 09:23 PM
3

Gen Z has less sex than previous generations. https://fortune.com/well/2023/05/12/are-teenagers-having-sex-cdc-gen-z-situationships-sneaky-links/
/r/ExRedPill12/06/24 12:20 AM
3

The internet tends to elevate slightly weird things to huge world breaking events.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/24 12:17 AM
2

People have always flirted with each other. It does not usually mean anything. As for cheating, it has always happened and done by men and women. It's actually harder these days because of social media. As for reddit, it tends to filter in the angriest of people, so they tend to be overrepresented.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/24 12:15 AM
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Oh my bad, your post was still in the stage where you bark for redpill and downplay the pointless ragebait, attempting to make redpill sound calm instead of insane, before we go in and find the pointless ragebait everywhere. Sorry for my mistake.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/24 12:36 AM
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The "men and women are different so the redpill must be true and we have to be afraid of women while trying to be manipulative dicks to women and see fellow men as enemies" approach is not as logical to you try to make it sound.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/24 12:13 AM
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K. Why do you seem so compelled to see enemies everywhere?
/r/ExRedPill10/06/24 10:17 PM
11

Somehow, it seems likely that this person would give a different answer to a different audience.
/r/ExRedPill10/06/24 08:16 PM
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Interesting trying claim "a problem exists therefore our snake oil works". Also, do clarify what you mean by "degeneracy" and "the west". Also, do you feel like anyone is trying to replace you?
/r/ExRedPill10/06/24 07:50 PM
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Found the redpill salestroll. Note the use of assumption of success ("our stuff totally works because I said it does") along with the use of strawman arguments.
/r/ExRedPill10/06/24 05:39 PM
3

Copy pasting parts of my own reply to someone that asked almost the exact same thing as you: "The redpill" is designed to make you depressed and insecure so you will buy their ebooks and click their ad-paying links. They word things to make you feel like a worse person if you do not buy their garbage, and tailor their wording to get in your head. And I mean it really gets in your head, even if you know they are BSing. You will notice that your life was happier before you read redpill: Stop readi…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/24 05:31 PM
3

It's dating apps. People are worse on dating apps than elsewhere.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/24 05:26 PM
1

You literally have shown nothing redpill. Redpillers do not usually actually hook up with women, they just whine about how scary women supposedly are. Anyways dude, have you considered dietary reasons? I found that cutting out fast food helps a lot with stamina.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/24 07:06 PM
1

Your sales pitch does not work here. Most people here have heard it before. We went through redpill garbage already. We recovered. We know the redpill is mostly whining that women are scary.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/24 04:44 PM
1

all redpill people talk about is women and how scary they supposedly are. Is there a reason you have such a vested interest in trying to defend redpill people?
/r/ExRedPill03/06/24 02:57 AM
1

The fact that these people try presenting your only life options as being the redpill and antifa should be a red flag, by the way.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/24 01:04 AM
2

Purple Pill Debate is stupid. It's full of redpillers trying to use the "And Jane in Ohio got the sportscar" method to recruit. There is literally a thread there now claiming that a guy got a sports car and a six figure income due to redpill.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/24 12:57 AM
1

I live in an area in which people keep assuming I must be broke and due to my race. I have been followed by police on multiple occasions. People have acted shocked to find out I could understand english. Straight up: drop the high school baggage; everyone is immature in high school. Let that go. You just mentioned you are in college. Get out, socialize, meet people. Meet women, even platonically. Get yourself used to the concept that they are not all scary. Do not let high school experiences hol…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/24 12:30 AM
2

I think you may have hit reply to the wrong comment.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/24 12:19 AM
5

Tell us about your area a bit. There arehuge differences between suburbs,college towns, hyper industrialized cities, small towns with economies based on a single company, touristy towns, beach towns, etc. What works in finding people where I live might be totally different from where you live.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/24 10:50 PM
4

No. This sounds like something an alt righter fed you to try to scare you into agreeing with him.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/24 10:46 PM
10

When you get out of high school and socialize, you have to unlearn a lot of what you learned socially in high school. The vast majority of people are cringy and definitely not their best selves in high school, and I admit this includes me. There are definitely different problems in adulthood: but leave highschool in highschool or you will deprive yourself of opportunities. I am a fellow nonwhite guy, and I get living with weird assumptions placed upon you.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/24 08:16 AM
11

The redpill figures tend to loudly claim a religion to be marketable to their targeted demographic. It is almost a requirement in order to win over the "culture war" crowd.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/24 08:08 AM
4

It's because 16 year old boys just talk big. Don't take it too seriously. A lot of socializing is just jargon and nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/24 12:14 AM
5

You are 16. Most 16 year olds do not have girlfriends.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/24 09:11 PM
2

Copy pasting parts of my own reply to someone that asked almost the exact same thing as you: "The redpill" is designed to make you depressed and insecure so you will buy their ebooks and click their ad-paying links. They word things to make you feel like a worse person if you do not buy their garbage, and tailor their wording to get in your head. And I mean it really gets in your head, even if you know they are BSing. You will notice that your life was happier before you read redpill: Stop readi…
/r/ExRedPill01/06/24 05:27 PM
1

who are the silent downvoters here?
/r/ExRedPill01/06/24 12:13 AM
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I want you to get that quote now, stick it in the garbage, and never interact with it again. You are trying to work on yourself, there is no need to take in toxic "gender wars" garbage. That quote is meant to provoke hatred in men and likely came from a nutcase, a troll, a "femcel" (incel who is a woman), or someone with a clickbait site. It is ragebait. If you encounter some nutcase claiming that men are not capable of loving women, you do not have to listen to anything they have to say. You do…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/24 05:29 PM
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"The redpill" is designed to make you depressed and insecure so you will buy their ebooks and click their ad-paying links. They word things to make you feel like a worse person if you do not buy their garbage, and tailor their wording to get in your head. And I mean it really gets in your head, even if you know they are BSing. You will notice that your life was happier before you read redpill: Stop reading redpill and do not get in deeper. There is nothing wrong with you that is relevant to what…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/24 09:58 AM
2

Some of those people are just trying to preach redpill for whatever reason and doing it in a sealioning "just asking questions" [in bad faith] way. They're not here to learn or chat, they are here to recruit. Keep in mind that some people make money from clicks and selling ebooks about the redpill. It's also an election year and some people use this as a gateway to leverage their candidate. Some of the culture warriors also think the redpill is essential for their position, lest you be "too woke…
/r/ExRedPill29/05/24 09:34 PM
5

It sounds like you projected your fantasies and insecurities onto other men that are actually going out and meeting women. Sitting at home, making assumptions and obsessions over other people's sex lives [and assuming that all their dating is just about sex] and labeling other guys as "assholes" while you go "woah is me I am a nice guy but my nice guy tokens are not making women knock on my door to meet me". Other people are actually going out with each other. You are the one sitting at home thi…
/r/ExRedPill29/05/24 09:27 PM
1

I guess if you want a logical damning evidence, even against absurd points, then sure.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/24 05:55 PM
1

Apparently, the "whatever" podcast came up on this subreddit previously. https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/s/CvV1gUIaC8
/r/ExRedPill28/05/24 11:50 PM
1

Look, we both know he is not going to invite a debate champion to debate him. But even then, in that video I referenced, the woman he is debating looks 20, maybe 22 at the oldest; and she does not really make bad points, there is just simply no rational way to argue with someone making a bizarre claim that a woman should marry at 20 or she will have way too much baggage for men. It just sounds like the hosts really just want someone half their age. On some of the other videos, the young women gu…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/24 11:46 PM
3

"Weight class"? He just gets wordy and looks smug. He never really makes any decent points when I see him. It's just him droning on and the title will say he "dismantled" someone. Wes Watson just sounds like an angry drunk yelling idiot, debating him is like debating a child. From his show "Whatever", there is a clip titled 6'4 Chad OBLITERATES Entitled Modern Women! @whatever , and in it, the hosts are debating an early 20 something woman and claiming that a woman should get married at 20 or sh…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/24 10:47 PM
1

It's ok, it just means you prefer what you prefer in a relationship. No one is requiring you to hook up. If anything, your friends may be too loud about wanting to hook up. Giving the "will hump anything that moves" impression is a major turnoff.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/24 08:43 PM
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This poster is just JAQing off. He is asking low effort questions that require high effort answers on purpose. All his comments are sea lioning, and on one, he even sea lions while claiming it is a debate. It's a strategy to try tiring you out while he never really has to make a worthwhile point.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/24 08:34 PM
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I always assumed Andrew Wilson was pathetic from the moment I saw him recommended to me on facebook reels. His talking points reek of just being afraid of women and sex. Just because a guy can use good grammar and look smug when parroting incel talking points does not make him any less pathetic. Seriously, do not take podcasters seriously. Just because a person spunds eloquent and practiced their posture does not mean they are right They have rehearsed this stuff to sound more confident about th…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/24 08:22 PM
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Because people on dating apps are weird, very entitled, and even more racially picky than people you see walking around everyday. Also, are you seriously trying to preach to us? What is the point of this thread? Why are former self identified incels so much weirder than former redpill people?
/r/ExRedPill28/05/24 08:10 PM
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A lot of women, well, most people in general, over 30 are in a way different life stage than wild and reckless 20s, so meeting them is different. It's a hard part to judge: "Am I making the bad impression or am I just reading too much into this?". There might even be a combination of the two. With BPD, there are also occasional invasive thought patterns, especially the ones that think in extremes of "everyone is nice" or "everyone is mean" that can blur judgement.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/24 07:58 PM
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simultaneously? Jokes aside, just because a guy is attractive does not mean he is more motivated to cheat than anyone else. Just like I tell men about women, get out of the mindset of "all are good"/"all are bad" or "they all cheat"/'none cheat" when it comes to men. Also, try not to get so judgy about his hookups: You have had your hookups too. Sex positivity goes to men too. Just because a person has hookups does not mean the person is not looking for anything long term. Is he supposed to turn…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/24 07:19 PM
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wear clean clothes. think relaxing thoughts in public. If you have a bad staring habit, take the effort to break yourself out of it. Try not to be very obvious about checking out women in public. Also, it's easier in the daytime than at night. If you live in a high crime area, be mindful of it. If you are not white, it makes a good first impression if they hear you talking to someone else in english. That last one is weird, but I am not white and this makes a huge difference for me. By the way, …
/r/ExRedPill28/05/24 07:07 PM
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Seeing this comment: dude, feel free to vent. Not everyone starts with the same advantages and disadvantages. What particular situations have you dealt with in terms of dating? I have a few friends who are bipolar, and they faced some unique challenges. I still follow up on one in particular because he does a lot to make us all worry for him. The truth is that society has not given much help to the specific needs of people with BPD besides medication. Also, what is your age and how old were you …
/r/ExRedPill27/05/24 08:40 PM
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most people have sex. It's not a thing that only a few elite men can get like these weird people selling you ebooks claim.
/r/ExRedPill27/05/24 08:37 PM
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"use"? I have encountered women that are into casual sex. What sucks (and some women do this sometimes too) is when one person leads the other person on to think it is more than just casual sex. Avoid thinking in the extremes that sex is somehow wronging or devaluing a woman.
/r/ExRedPill27/05/24 08:33 PM
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There are a lot of guys with wage slave jobs and girlfriends. Also, drop the pill stuff. The constant stream of depression mongering ragebait will make you run out of the emotional energy you need in other aspects of your life such as job hunting.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/24 09:48 PM
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Oh ok. I stopped online dating years ago and have still dated since then. I am not white and I get particularly affected on online dating sites. In person, people are more open to meeting me and exchanging phone numbers, and less likely to think of me as stereotype of the week. The human race has kept itself going since long before online dating was a thing. Also, this is not about "hypergamy", "hypergamy" is a way weirder manifesto of ragebait by redpill people to make you buy their ebooks. Get…
/r/ExRedPill26/05/24 06:56 PM
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First: there is no such thing as an "alpha male". That is just a term that scammers use to sell things to you. "buy our ebooks and go to our $1000 bootcamps or vote for our candidate and you can be an alpha male too but you are not there yet so buy more of our stuff". If you ever hang out with "redpill" people in person, you will find that most of them just come off annoying to most people arpund them, especially women. second: You are 16, you are not supposed to be out womanizing and stuff. con…
/r/ExRedPill26/05/24 05:40 PM
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Can you tell us who in particular is telling you these things? Give some examples and try not to treat this as some pluralistic "everyone else". Also, I am reading your responses to comments: are you actually here to make your life better or are you just here to preach redpill and blackpill garbage?
/r/ExRedPill26/05/24 05:25 AM
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Ok, here goes. those guys did not really sleep with a thousand women like they claim, it's just a claim that gains legitimacy among manosphere guys and guys without a lot of dating experience. If they say "I have slept with 2 to 4 women", then most manosphere people will not pay them any mind. If you have dating experience, you know that no guy really sleeps with a thousand women unless they are a traveling rockstar with a line of groupies or something, and that each session would be very short …
/r/ExRedPill24/05/24 08:55 PM
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not every male friend of a woman is an orbitter. some are just friends. look, you are trying to find reasons to beat yourself up and you are really reaching due to depression. Lets step back. Are there individuals in your life that put you down or make you feel like less of a person?
/r/ExRedPill24/05/24 07:06 PM
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You mean you did not click them and give them ad revenue?
/r/ExRedPill22/05/24 12:12 AM
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It's a scam. It was always a scam. Go to an MLM presentation and hear how steve and trish in maryland got the sports car.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/24 11:40 PM
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I have heard the whole sales pitch from puas. "high status men such as kings and pharaohs had a lot of women" . Well, overgroomed guy trying to charge me over $1k for a bootcamp, those guys had inherited titles and those women did not have a choice in the matter.
/r/ExRedPill21/05/24 11:39 PM
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It's because this video looks like propaganda. Be wary of this stuff. Just because a video, person, or group agrees with you on a point, or part of a point, does not mean they are your friend. Yes, my social media has been pushing weird gender role divide stuff this past year: but be careful if a source says something like "there is a conspiracy to make men less macho", because it always somehow leads to trying to get men to sit at home and whine about angry imaginary stuff, which is definitely …
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 04:37 PM
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Well, giving you an upvote there. Just be wary of the agendas of videos. It paints a different story than you are typing.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 05:05 AM
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Meh, I will respond to your "just asking questions post. The difference that I have seen between feminists and redpill is that I have yet to see feminists cheer on the cops that murdered George Floyd and Philando Castille, yet plenty of red pillers sure did. Also, it looks like the video just compares drunk bar girls to ben shapiro, who bullshits while sober. Clear that alt right shit out of redpill and MRA, and then we can talk. You are probably reading my post and thinking that making people g…
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 04:57 AM
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It's untestable and purely speculative. That said, what redpillers say about evolutionary psych is usually just stuff made up by the redpill or taken completely out of context. Just because they claim it is evolutionary psychology does not mean it is really evolutionary psychology.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/24 04:03 AM
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It is in other threads of yours. You are being your own worst enemy.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/24 11:26 PM
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You're only 22. Seriously, it sounds like you are inventing scenarios to depress yourself as part of an overall depression, and that this is only a symptom of a bigger overall depression rather than the cause.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/24 11:25 PM
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Going by your thread history, it sounds like you really have not done everything, especially since you refer to it as "hedging your bets". If you do not understand how a better personality can be attractive, and if you get upset seeing other guys with women, that is part of the problem. Also dude, drop the "incel" identity. Stop telling it to yourself.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/24 10:50 PM
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It's so you do not depress yourself and get super desperate and needy while going out with someone. It is way easier to date someone when you do not view them as the keyholder of your happiness, as opposed to giving the "this person will harm themself or another if I say no" vibe.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/24 10:36 PM
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Yikes. He has fallen for a scam targeting angry 19 year olds. Keep in mind what the redpill preys on to get people: us vs them mindset, sense of entitlement, insecurity in one's own masculinity, and anger towards women. It also is contributed to by weird right wing stuff, but that is not necessarily required. A lot of redpillers advertise and market to right wing people. But if he cut off family members, then there are a lot of problems with this guy
/r/ExRedPill16/05/24 07:43 PM
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Is it specifically redpill or has he just gotten miscellaneously misogynist and hateful? I would worry when he cuts himself off from family. The reason I ask if it's specifically redpill is that there is a specific set of beliefs and public figures for that, and dealing with it is different from dealing with a very angry midlife crisis.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/24 05:15 PM
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Get used to talking to women that you do not intend or want to date, this makes it easier to get a good feel of baseline behavior. It's easier if you work in sales or something where you have to talk to a lot of strangers.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/24 05:10 PM
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Sing in your car while driving to work. Get a better sence of your vocal range.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/24 05:08 PM
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How old is he? Also, does he have any other major stress factors in his life, such as a bad breakup or a career rut?
/r/ExRedPill15/05/24 08:26 PM
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I assume the parts about obsessong over women and how supposedly horrifying they all are, and making this your whole identity.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/24 08:18 PM
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Sometimes, a good vent is just what the doctor ordered
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 07:15 PM
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is this a rant about an ex?
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 02:27 PM
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Look: You don't have to be perfect and you don't have to be a psychopath. When you date around a lot, you will find yourself complaining about negative stuff that a lot of your partners do. It's not a morality point system.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 01:23 AM
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tip#1: Stop calling yourself an incel. It does not mean virgin, it means people that follow a specific hateful ideology. tip#2: most people do not care about your virginity. the ones that do are weirdos. tip#3: besides meeting women, hang out with people that leave you in a good mood. do not hang out with people that give you excessive stress and drama tip#4: meet women outside of your social circle. if your social circle is 1/3 women or less, expand out of your social circle. tip#5: do not get …
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 12:16 AM
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How would redpill even work in arab countries? There is already massive misogyny in those countries. But the redpill also represents men defining themselves by women's validation and thinking of nothing but women even if it claims otherwise, which is completely unmacho behavior in most hypermacho cultulres. Im those cultures, even with the misogyny, a guy constantly whining that women are scary would be seen as weak.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/24 08:29 PM
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The redpill is ragebait meant to sell ebooks. There is no happiness condition. If a person becomes actually happy, they cease to be a customer, thus the redpill provides no actual happiness condition, and even tries to find ways to negatively frame things that sound happy
/r/ExRedPill10/05/24 05:36 PM
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Some people are also just flaky. Not every screwup is deliberate or intended to be rational. Some people are just immature. I have encountered women that do this too. It's not exclusively an RP or RP-adjacent thing.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/24 09:11 PM
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I am not referring to them actually being nice people, I am referring to "nice" with the quotation marks, the ones that use that as their identity. Think of a religious guy that cheats on his wife but keeps talking about how devout he is.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/24 07:37 PM
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Redpill is not meant to be correct, it is meant to make money. Problems with "nice guys" in dating: a lot simply never ask a woman out on a date. Then they see a woman they like go out with someone else and act shocked that she dared go out with someone that asked her on a date. Some expect every woman to make every first move. gender roles are outdated, but people are still socialized with them to an extent.there is nothing wrong with a woman making first moves, but it is simply not good to wai…
/r/ExRedPill07/05/24 06:01 PM
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What you say about not approaching while grocery shopping makes total sense to me, and I agree. Approaching at a grocery store, when people are kind of in a rush, sounds annoying to the person being approached; but even the non weird sources used to say that is a good place to meet women and I do not get that. Maybe "classical advice" just is not very good. Maybe 50 years ago, that may have been the social place [in some cultures, people get really dressed up to go to the grocery store]. But her…
/r/ExRedPill05/05/24 08:03 PM
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Is it me or is gender war garbage getting way too mainstream?
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 05:32 PM
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You young people with your tiktoks :p PUA people get way more pathetic when you meet them in person. They talk big on forums, but just come off like crackheads in person, spewing long salesy sounding speeches in front of baffled looking women . A lot of the guys have obvious speech impediments, but the "guru" never helps them with this or even advised them to work on their manner of speech. I have hung out with a bunch and seen it, even got the sales spiel. The sales pitch is meant to convince g…
/r/ExRedPill03/05/24 04:54 PM
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The "Q" people.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/24 10:13 PM
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"Qpill"? Is this a partisan conspiracy theory thing that is constantly looking for enemy-of-the-day?
/r/ExRedPill02/05/24 08:54 PM
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It was mostly antisocial recluses talking big since way back in the PUA days.
/r/ExRedPill30/04/24 11:27 PM
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It was always mostly shut ins and antisocial recluses. They just talk big on the internet.
/r/ExRedPill30/04/24 10:35 PM
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Because the red pill is meant to sell ebooks, not actually fix anything. The idea is "none of your problems are your own fault, you should not be expected to go put and meet anyone or ask anyone out to get dates, women oppress you and only we can fix it for your money and clicks. Here's some ragebait so you will keep coming back".
/r/ExRedPill30/04/24 07:39 PM
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If you get a chance: cast out this whole concept of "pills" and binary choices. Look, I have been in a similar confused situation more than once, and I screwed up: not some red or blue or black or whatever pill, I, specifically I, screwed up by not following up. However it goes, following up is better than not knowing. You don't have to spill everything out, you don't have to play hard to get: But as a guy, society sticks us with a gender role assumption of being the one to follow up. Follow up.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/24 02:53 AM
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I see you deleted your other threads to keep from looking bad. Are you going to do the same to this one? Were you that guy who got jealous of his male friends and considered cutting them off, or am I getting you mixed up with another dirty deleter?
/r/ExRedPill28/04/24 09:36 PM
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Red pill did not help you at all here and would have just given you a lense to see her as an enemy. There is seriously no way redpill can benefit you in this situation, no matter what your decision, whether you follow up with her or dump her. Anyways, "pill" garbage aside, think of this as an adult. What happened besides the sex ? Did you spend time with each other besides that, ie breakfast in the morning? Was she the only one that did not follow up, or were you also not following up? While ove…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 06:31 PM
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We are not from inceltears. Do not expect us to apologize on inceltears' behalf. We are not going to answer for inceltears. This subreddit has nothing in common with inceltears functionally or culturally. I am not even going to go browse inceltears. What happens on inceltears happens on inceltears, not here.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 06:13 PM
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Oh, well, I am sure you were constantly watching people hook up when you were in high school and at frat parties. That is a strange hobby.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 01:38 AM
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You made a whole thread claiming people told you this, and you found literally zero examples that in the whole thread.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 01:35 AM
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Bullshit. What you are seeing are self righteous antisocial depressed dudes that claim that all other guys, especially the popular ones, are the assholes. Everyone is drama in high school; but these "only assholes get the girls" guys seem to convince themselves that they are the victimized exception, a main character complex that bring out of high school. I have been around these kinds of guys. I have been around guys with more hookups, I have also been around self pitying guys that deem those o…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 12:39 AM
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The internet is full of ragebait to make worse case scenarios feel like the norm. Reddit, in particular, is full of angry people giving their worse case scenarios, or sometimes changing stories around to sound like victims. We even saw some of that on this page. But you need to remove yourself from toxic or ragebait internet sources.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/24 07:55 PM
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A good chunk of the person A threads are trolls, possibly redpillers or partisan trolls trying to flood this page with shit to make people give up on it. It's an election year, afterall. Now for the serious people here: If you go out with someone and you hold actual hatred for them and/or you view them as an enemy from the get to, it is easy to accidentally make that come out in creepy or annoying ways.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/24 07:13 PM
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Look, as a fellow nonwhite guy, I am going to be blunt: expand your social circles and meet people in nearby towns, too. I have lived in ghettos, suburbs, and cities, I have hung around hip hop crowds, latin dance music crowds, dungeons and dragons nerds, and workaholics: I am not white and I have found that I have more appeal in some groups more than others, and I have found other social circles in which people assume I am broke and have a low paying job because of my race. Race and dating are …
/r/ExRedPill24/04/24 11:58 PM
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Get off that whole stupid concept of status in manosphere context. That's garbage that got recycled from old pickupartist nonsense, and always concluded that the guy who paid over $1000 for the pickupartist bootcamp is somehow the guy with high status. It's a scam.
/r/ExRedPill24/04/24 06:39 AM
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You are still looking at sex as some kind of favor to men instead of as an activity shared by 2 or more people. Besides, the root of incels is not the lack of sex, it's the craving of viewing other people as enemies. That is why these pipelines have such overlap with white supremacists. I have seen your other threads. If you, specifically you, OP, got all the sex in the world, you would still be jealous of your friends over other things [career, etc]. Work on that.
/r/ExRedPill23/04/24 07:24 PM
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OP is a dirty liar. He has other trolly threads claiming that people here told him that casual sex is unattainable, that people here told him he is not allowed to have casual sex, and that people here tell him he can't get laid because he is a misogynist. He has been trolling for sympathy. He does not really process anything people say, he just responds with more sympathy trolling.
/r/ExRedPill23/04/24 06:31 PM
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I will get on it right after I put all my cash in a blender.
/r/ExRedPill22/04/24 05:18 PM
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This is perfect. You can reuse this reply to explain a lot of weird internet culture.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/24 03:28 PM
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"I got rejected, just like everyone else does sometimes, and now I spend hours looking for public facebook comment sections to whine that women as leads in superhero movies are all too woke."
/r/ExRedPill18/04/24 05:03 PM
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What got him into all that? Is he a trust fund baby that just realized he's unremarkable among his peers as an adult? Did he get offended by Derek Chauven getting arrested, and get lead to this? Is he a shut in that just realized that he is not particularly macho, and thinks he can make up for all that by whining about women all day? Did he get into some weird stuff through gaming forums? This man child is just way too old for this garbage.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/24 05:00 PM
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This guy has done baity accusatory strawman filled threads in the past, though apparently deleted some of them, claiming people here are telling him he can't get laid because he is a misogynist. It's fiction and he is sympathy trolling. He usually responded with strawmen and more sympathy trolling in his other threads. Maybe he will just get it out of his system and move on. Or he will just make more baity sympathy trolling threads, claiming that everyone here just told him he can't get laid bec…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 05:36 PM
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write down the needs addressed. know your audience. try to understand why andrew tate, or the other toxic manosphere podcasters, appeal to that audience. figure out what the audience thinks they are getting out of it. be ready for potential counterpoints. these will usually be bad faith arguments and canned material, and will often sound like a 14 year old said it. I suggest avoiding partisan politics, but that is hard because the current far right tries to make everything political . If your co…
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 09:47 PM
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I am surprised redpill made it to eastern europe. In the US, redpill plays on a lot on internet denizens trying to feel macho despite spending most of their free time complaining in front of a keyboard.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 07:15 PM
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There are some people, any sex, sexual orientation, etc, that will double down on a terrible partner if friends genuinely point out how terrible that partner is.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 05:06 AM
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Quick questions: Does he seem completely unable to be happy for other people? Does he always have to be right, even to an extent of holding a grudge days later? Has he ever used the word "hypergamy"? Does he keep whining when he sees that a marvel movie has a female lead? If Forest Gump comes into conversation, does he get weird when Jenny comes into the conversation? Is he negatively fixated on onlyfans? Does he keep trying to convince himself he is better than other guys? Does he get very me-v…
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 05:04 AM
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I just saw your responses to other people. You just want to be contradictory. You don't want to be helped, cheered up, given a chance to vent, etc. You just want to be as contradictory as possible and throw around strawmen. If you feel someone here claimed that casual sex is forbidden or unattainable, and even if you were right, who even cares?
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 04:57 AM
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That's nice. No one here is telling you not to have casual sex. No one here is telling you that it is "unobtainable". You are a troll or a dirty liar. Your other threads are also cringy "just asking questions" accusations.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 02:00 AM
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Accepting a "no" in the bedroom is a bare minimum standard, not a golden accomplishment. I am sorry to hear there were seriously awful guys in your past. However, yikes at this guy, already 30, ranting weird angry redpill garbage. You can tell by the rants that the redpill is not making him happy or enriching his life in any way.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 08:56 PM
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The real problem is that you take offense over your friends' success. I doubt your therapist said that you should just start dating to fix that.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 06:02 PM
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This assumes that the redpillers really want what they say they want. Redpill is just ragebait. If the redpillers got the traditional marriages that they say they want, the redpill would just convince them they are being oppressed somehow and that they should be mad over something elseor other. Do not assume rationality from redpillers or the redpill. Or basically any ragebait on reddit.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/24 09:57 PM
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I mean this in a nice way: Get therapy. You had another post where you were constantly jealous of your friends. Part of life is that you need to be able to feel happy for your friends. If you are unsympathetic and want to only be around people that are doing badly, the problem is with you. When your next, currently failing friends start to do well, you are just going to act the same to those friends. You can not be rooting for your friends to fail. This is why I argue that the redpill is anti me…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/24 09:50 PM
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Probably none. Do not try to make sense of redpill garbage. It is not supposed to make sense, it is ragebait designed to get in your head so that you buy their ebooks. For example, here you are, asking us to rationalize their garbage for you even though you are not a believer in their garbage. The more time you spend around redpill garbage, the more it will eat at you.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/24 11:25 PM
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She may have been tired or you may have not clicked. She might also just be awkward or shy. She's an introvert, as are you, you get that it is sometimes complicated for introverts. It sounds like you both met up while rushed so she may have been self conscious since she did not present as her best. She is keeping in touch though. Not enough info to say, really. If you meet up again, give her more than an hour and try not to rush it. I get that the college schedule is complicated and all, but you…
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 08:14 PM
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Some are, some are not. Some guys are drama seekers. Get off the mindset of "all women are ....", whether it be something good or bad. Get used to seeing people as individuals.
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 07:39 PM
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It's easier to find after you talk to more people and notice that you, yourself, are way more comfortable around confident people. I mean actual confidence, not someone that brags about things that are not real.
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 05:23 PM
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Any group that tries to raise hate against an "other" will try convincing you that the "other" has special easy street privileges, even when finding proof to the contrary. In redpill's case, the "other" is women.
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 05:18 PM
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get out of the mindset that only a small percent of very elite men date women, have sex, get girlfriends, etc. That is a mindset often pushed by manosphere grifters.
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 02:42 AM
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That's weird. Is it an enclosed high drama social circle?
/r/ExRedPill11/04/24 06:18 PM
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Did you actually see this stuff play out or are these guys just making up stories to compete with each other?
/r/ExRedPill11/04/24 03:05 AM
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When people say "incel", they are not referring to someone that is simply not getting laid. They are referring to someone that follows a weird hateful me-vs-them manifesto about it. Dry spells are pretty common, it's just that most people do not look for enemies in response.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/24 05:37 AM
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You can find some of their posts on this page to get some opinions. Read through their replies to other people for details (ie their motivations). Some got into it because they perceive the world as tribes (viewing everyone as either redpill or bluepill). There is a recent one that got into it because she got into the altright pipeline and was dating white supremacists while she was a teenager and thought redpill was normal.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 08:22 PM
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Oh wow, she blocked me after I advised against going after guys that fantasize about mass murdering brown and black people.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 04:32 AM
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If you are looking through guys that want to wipe out black and brown people, you will not find the cream if the crop. The whole "I am not racist but I want a man that fantasizes about genocide" is not as flattering as it sounds.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 03:38 AM
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By the way, most sane guys are not looking for a "tradwife", and a lot of guys have never heard of "tradwife". Redpill guys are a very small percent of guys. Redpill is not supposed to make sense or reflect the desires of most guys, it just is ragebait meant to sell ebooks and get clicks. Seriously, do not validate that garbage.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 03:11 AM
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"Tradwife" is white supremacist propaganda. The supposed appeal is that every white guy supposedly gets a submissive tradwife after getting rid of brown and black people. No, it does not make sense.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 01:52 AM
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Step 1 is to get that damn redpill garbage and lingo out of your head. She dated another guy for a month and it did not work out. It's not that she was just out having sex and only having sex. If you do go out with her, don't keep telling yourself that this is your only option. This will cause you to beat yourself up and will in turn cause you to act much worse around her. Also, do not derive self worth from whether or not a particular woman wants to date you. I can not tell you what to do, but …
/r/ExRedPill07/04/24 07:30 PM
4

Tradwife is a white supremacist thing that redpillers adopted due to a recent increase of overlap. The second someone suggests a "tradwife", you are not expected to respect them anymore. There was a weird draw that if white people get an ethnostate, the guys would automatically get their own cottage core looking "tradwife" concubine for some reason. Redpill is intentionally written as ragebait to draw people in. It is not intended yo be helpful, it is intended to get people to buy ebooks and get…
/r/ExRedPill05/04/24 04:55 PM
2

It sounds like you are habitually putting strangers, that you never met, on a pedestal due to them being pretty as well as putting this whole fantasy interaction, full of assumed personality traits, in your head. Just giving you a starting point on a habit to break.
/r/ExRedPill05/04/24 04:35 PM
9

The one who kept claiming that people from this subreddit are calling him a misogynist because he can't get women
/r/ExRedPill04/04/24 01:03 AM
13

Are you an alt of the other guy with the go-nowhere strawman threads?
/r/ExRedPill04/04/24 12:30 AM
6

This person had three trolling threads where he just made accusations, strawmen, and constant "just asking questions" replies that did not really respond to anything said. He has apparently dirty deleted them to get a clean post history. He makes some weird claims that people on this subreddit are calling him a misogynist because he is not getting women, even though literally no one from this subreddit is doing that. Despite his claims, people on this subreddit were not calling him a misogynist,…
/r/ExRedPill02/04/24 09:42 PM
3

What is your age group? Different age groups have different friend meeting places.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/24 06:03 PM
4

I just realized this is the same person that made a thread titled "This community is so blackpilling". It's a troll account.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/24 11:23 PM
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Literally no one here is claiming that every guy struggling with women is a misogynistic asshole. You made that up yourself. Grow up. Stop trying to frame the world as one extreme or another.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/24 09:31 PM
13

Strawman, non sequitur, and "just asking questions". Nice.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/24 09:10 PM
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You seriously think the only two types of guys are andrew tate fans and guys who read a lot of feminist literature? That's your problem. Get out more. Seriously, stop defining the world by what you see on reddit subcultures. Also, on "good with women" : are you just going by their weird claims? As for Andrew tate: it does not take some feminist literature read guy to know that human trafficking is bad. What is with your weirdly limited view of the world, are you 19 or something?
/r/ExRedPill31/03/24 08:19 PM
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I really can not understand why some people, already in happy relationships, would start taking redpill advice. Most people, that know of redpill, do not differentiate between redpill and incels. Did he start because of political beliefs?
/r/ExRedPill31/03/24 08:13 PM
7

Check the source. Mosting of these charts come from dating site statistics, and people on dating sites just are not the same as people elsewhere.
/r/ExRedPill29/03/24 10:12 PM
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Going by your post history, I am getting a better sense of the cause of your problems.
/r/ExRedPill28/03/24 09:56 PM
4

It's an election year. This weird culture war garbage gets heavily astroturfed during election years. These people sit around and search for public comment sections to whine and preach on, using whatever search terms will get a lot of views. They try to sound as shocking and alarmist as possible.
/r/ExRedPill28/03/24 08:36 PM
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I have definitely seen gaslighting, but that thread does not look like an example of it. It looks like a depressed guy had a distorted perspective of a bizarre and traumatic event [he convinced himself it was the norm] but gave incomplete details until the other commenters had to keep drilling him and he gave context, explaining the full story (women are not just going up to him to and bullying him on a regular basis, he was in college and a bunch of drunk high schoolers at the gym were harassin…
/r/ExRedPill26/03/24 11:11 PM
1

Some recovered alcoholics can resist alcohol, so I guess we should give them all vodka.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/24 07:43 PM
2

Red pill is designed to be rage bait. It's designed to get into your head when you read it, even if you know it is garbage. It is purely about getting money from ad clicks and selling ebooks+CDs. They are experienced con artists. Avoid that garbage.
/r/ExRedPill26/03/24 07:40 PM
1

It's a way of gaslighting and dehumanizing others. A big part of the red pill, even in the name, is deluding themselves into thinking they are the sanest and smartest person in every room.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/24 06:14 PM
2

I just checked out 33 Secrets right now and that page is nothing but pathetic rage bait. They have a whole video called "Women do not care about you".
/r/ExRedPill24/03/24 06:10 PM
3

You never "got played", she was honest that she was not into dating you. At some point, you had sex with her, but were not dating her, and you seemed to want it to be dating, and she got a bit scared off because she simply does not want to date you. She only wanted sex with you and not dating, and those were the terms you both agreed to. When you said that you wanted to just have sex without dating, you were not just dishonest to her, but you were dishonest with yourself, because that is not wha…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/24 03:33 AM
4

Youtube is weird. If you view stuff related to anime, video games, sci fi, or basically anything nerd related, the algorithm gives you ads for weird MRA stuff, redpill stuff, shady dating coaches, and weird alarmist right wing stuff. They're like "You saw an akira clip, here's some podcasters telling you women are scary"
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 05:59 PM
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Same thing with incel/reddit garbage, avoid that "femcel"/"femaledatingstrategy" garbage online. Like redpill garbage, femaledatingstrategy is written to just be inflammatory and get in your head, even if you know it is garbage. It's not meant to be right, it's meant to sell ebooks or ad clicks. A common thread on those people's posts: none of them are happy after taking that life advice.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/24 05:19 PM
1

Are you talking about this aubreddit (exredpill) or redpill? Redpill was made as a scam to sell evooks and videos. It was never meant to help anyone. All the rhetoric is alarmist and meant to be depressing so it can sell you snake oil to supposedly fix it. Redpill invents a problem that only redpill can supposedly solve. Redpill creates these binary concepts ["redpill" vs "bluepill", "chad us" vs "loser everyone who is not us", etc]. Average guys get women, but still have to get out of the house…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 05:53 PM
1

There is gentle reasing that is cute, and there is insulting: do you habitually do this with other people? Of course, you want to try to avoid outright insulting, because you could potentially accidentally insult something that is a very big deal to her. You may also want to get yourself in situations where you interact with more people, especially women, even in platonic situations, to build confidence.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 07:38 PM
6

If a reddit thread is just absurdly angry hyperbole, you are welcome to stop taking the people on it seriously. On facebook, I used to browse a page making fun of incels, and then the majority of the commenters were women that talked like incels and just hated men.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 07:34 PM
6

If someone is getting filmed or photographed in a way that has perfect lighting and camera angles, they are being paid. Pickup artist "gurus" used to pay women to even stand behind them while they film videos. You mentioned Andrew Tate, but he got arrested as a human trafficker/pimp, surrounded by women paid to be around him. Redpill guys lie a lot online. A lot. Redpill tends to attract guys that are very approval seeking. Redpill guys I knew in person always did badly with women because 1) the…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 07:27 PM
1

OK, while we are on the topic of body shaming, is it ok if I bring up race shaming men? I have been in weird situations when I am dating or talking to a woman, and her friends are telling her to leave me because of my race, and they have often mentioned weird stereotypes, or she brings up weird racist stuff that she assumes about me, or she seems relieved that I know english. Some of the women even told me what their friends said. There was also a long reddit thread of women claiming that Indian…
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 05:58 PM
2

It's because of your assumption that all arrogant people are assholes and that all assholes are arrogant people. Most assholes I met had very low confidence, even if they tried to fake being confident.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 05:28 PM
2

I am seeing your other responses, some where you say working out made you hate your own body, some where you just keep beating yourself up. I think you have depression and you need to get therapy for that; not because of getting laid in particular, but overall for yourself.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 05:23 PM
4

It depends on what you define as a "loser". I have met 30 somethings in a lot of unusual life positions, some even homeless. If it's about meeting women: taking care of your looks, career, fitness, and confidence are fine, even good. But you actually have to ask women out on dates. I mean actually ask them out and show interest in dating them. In the past 12 monthes, if you have not asked out any women on dates, that is where you are going wrong.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 04:31 AM
3

Overconfident people simply try more, even if being rejected more. There is also a difference when confidently approaching a situation as if you have other options and things are fine if it doesn't go your way, and approaching a situation as if your happiness depends on the outcome and this woman's approval. Afterall, if on a first impression, someone acts like their happiness is completely dependent on your opinion of them, you will simply not want to spend time with them. A lot of confidence d…
/r/ExRedPill15/03/24 10:20 PM
1

You are only 17, you are doing fine. Concentrate on your studies. Meet women in college. However, and big however: you seem to be beating yourself up. If you are feeling depressed, acknowledge to yourself that you are feeling depressed. Also: at no point should you judge your self worth by your dating life: you will depress yourself and the attitude will even make you less attractive to women once you are ready to date. if you make someone feel like your self esteem is dependent on them, then it…
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 06:40 AM
2

17? Ok, you don't have to worry too much about dating yet, and it's still early enough for you to get help. When you get to that age, meet more women in platonic situations, it makes it easier to equalize them and not put them on a pedestal or see them as scary. I am not solving the heart of the problem, but do be sure to keep your other concerns (grades, work, whatever) up. Get counseling if you can. Not for any societal benefit, but for yourself. Some people in this thread are probably way mor…
/r/ExRedPill10/03/24 05:53 AM
3

I am not going to simplify anything; sometimes, you date someone shitty that really messes with your head. I have dated a few particularly awful apples, and the common experience with them is still hard to get over years later. Anyways, being "attractive": dress ok, keep fit if you want , it helps, and getting physical activity gives you endorphins. groom yourself and shower. make sure your clothes are clean, I have encountered some stinky adults both men and women. a big part is psychological t…
/r/ExRedPill10/03/24 05:42 AM
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Ask him about it, you don't have to be confrontational while asking. If you are dating someone and something worries you, it's better to ask rather than let it fester. Even I would be concerned. I am not really sure how big instagram follows are as red flags. Follow up question for people, as a guy: does following a few swimsuit models come off as a red flag or potentially turn off dates? It never came up, but it seems worth asking.
/r/ExRedPill08/03/24 02:17 AM
3

So when I ask this, I have no judgement: Is porn cutting off into your sleep time? This is something where you need to help yourself,of course, but getting sufficient sleep is important. Do you have an absorbed expectation of relationships or sexual encounters to be like porn? Are you getting out sufficiently, or do you mostly keep to yourself? Not judging, everyone's life situation is different, but if most of your exposure to women is through porn, this may affect you differently than someone …
/r/ExRedPill07/03/24 06:04 PM
3

A good chunk of those videos are staged, some are edited, some are cherrypicked. If you ask 100 people a question, you only need to show footage of the worst.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/24 06:58 PM
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A big part about redpill is thinking they are better than other people, even calling it "red pill" as if to claim they found some sort of truth society hid from them.
/r/ExRedPill05/03/24 06:56 PM
3

"too far gone" is a relative concept. I just can't bring myself to hang out with an emotionally draining redpiller that acts like a bitter immature freak everytime he sees a woman flirting with me. You don't have to have formal "friend breakups", but you don't necessarily have to hang out with people that consistently leave you annoyed.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/24 09:23 PM
1

You are talking about empathy, but you mention reddit: maybe clarify which people you are having trouble showing empathy to. Some people are in a genuine bad situation, but some people, men and women, are just angry and hateful in an insane way that makes them hard to take seriously.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/24 09:44 PM
2

So this is what can be referred to as "organizational culture" in your office. This particular group of people, in an environment that seems to favor these personality traits, got weird. I am guessing this office works in some kind of sales. This does not happen with most groups of people, but high drama groups are more prone to it. Try to diversift your social circle. It's best to stay out of hearing the local drama of who hooked up with who at work. Not only is it annoying, but if you hang out…
/r/ExRedPill03/03/24 09:31 PM
1

Are you friends and coworkers or just coworkers? If she is just your coworker and draining you emotionally, then it is time to set a healthy boundary.
/r/ExRedPill03/03/24 09:13 PM
4

Oh wow, this is my first time viewing femaledatingstrategy and that page is insane. On facebook, I used to follow a few pages making fun of incels, but stopped because a lot of the posters were just angry hateful women mirroring incel mindsets but against men, and now I see where these particular women individuals got their insanely hateful talking points from.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/24 07:29 PM
1

It sounds like you have very specific insecurities (I'm not knocking on anyone, all humans have some insecurities) and the red pill pushed the right buttons to play on those very specific insecurities. Combine this with red pillers' inflamatory rhetoric, which really does get into a reader's head, even if the reader does not believe the claims. By the way, the word "Chad" was originally used as an insult by the manosphere people to put down men that are macho or doing well with women, since a lo…
/r/ExRedPill01/03/24 06:38 PM
4

Yeah, you're going to get a lot of anger-mongering if you go to redpill, conservative christian, and tumblr feminists (I say specifically tumblr feminists). Redpill is designed to just piss guys off, get them outraged, then claim to sell the cure for this outrage. That's the point of it. That's why all the arguments are so backwards and that's why it seems inferiorating and designed to make guys come back for more. These aren't regular men. These are angry guys that spend way too much time on th…
/r/ExRedPill29/02/24 06:55 PM
1

Get rid of the concepts of "all men" and "all women".
/r/ExRedPill28/02/24 06:57 PM
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Because redpill people try to frame everything as binary choices.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/24 08:34 PM
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