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Because society is already talking about that, a lot? Plus the Red Pill is focused on men's issues. It doesn't promote deadbeat dad, and its message is, at least in part, about not being the kind of guy who becomes a deadbeat dad (the whole 'own your shit' thing you're talking about), but deadbeat dads are not something men often complain about, so its not really a man issue, so the Red Pill doesn't often talk about it. Its the same reason most feminists I know don't often talk about false rape …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:46 AM
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Nah even in RP 'good men' is just used to counter the what they feel is the current 'men are trash' narrative. A good man, in the RP, is just one who follows his 'instints' and gut and tries to be the best he can be. The AWALT thing is just saying that women have instincts as well, and are just as base and animal as men, and not the perfectly rational 'love with our heart/love your personality/etc...' Disney princesses the 'narrative' seems to believe. Though to be fair, feminism and its desire …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:43 AM
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The wife spends her youthful kids having her children, which will benefit from being provided for by all the money the man makes, and will continue to get child-support (if they're young) even if he leaves. If you can make 'having kids' a benefit provided to the man, at the cost of the woman, than I can pretend that 'providing for kids' is a benefit provided totally to the woman, at the cost of the man. Because of course there's absolutely no way a woman can want kids, and benefit from having th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:35 AM
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I feel like this question is ignoring that the whole 'chores are a woman's duty' thing sprung from the fact that, back in the day, women and men weren't working the same hours, and did not have the same amount of time to spend on chores, and were not bringing in a balanced income. Chores were a woman's duty because being a house-wife, back when house-wives were typical, was a full time job. Raising the kids and doing the chores was her job, bringing in money was his job. And that created a bunch…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:20 AM
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of course in all of these hypothetical situations things like abortions are free, and when it comes to arguing about the moral implications of abortions I'm pretty certain both sides have simply given up trying to convince the other. Both sides are so entrenched in their points of view that bringing up morals basically become a moot factor in these debates; morals, in arguments like this, are like bringing up anecdotal evidence in school debates; their nice, and they probably mean a lot to you, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:11 PM
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Nah it's just that in today's 'mainstream' culture women are simply 'allowed' to be more openly shallow than men. The shallow-but-socially-conscious men know that if they went on social media talking how they only dated women with big tits they would get scorched by the hellfire of a thousand angry feminists. But the shallow-but-socially-conscious-women don't have any such fears, because as far as they are concerned things like body positivity and empathy are for women only. It's a bit like how …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:55 PM
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Here's the thing though. As far as I can tell, abundance mentality is just the recognition that, worst comes to worst, if your girlfriend dumps you, you could find someone else to love you. It's meant to be a band-aid for guys who have somehow been socialized into thinking that all women don't like them, so that the moment a woman actually does show interest in them they get clingy and drive her away. That's what abundance mentality is all about; a way to get over clinginess and/or feelings of l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:39 PM
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I'm actually honestly happy you seem to have such a stable, happy life, and pretty pleased with such a polite reply. However, I do think that your marriage would probably be a lot less stable, and the kids probably a lot less happy, if you'd forced a guy into staying around with a pregnancy instead of finding one that actually wanted kids. My stake in arguments like this is that a kid is a massive, monumental decision, and a huge responsibility, that should only be undertaken by people wholly co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 10:30 PM
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Or how about this; you have to accept that he is on the 'opt-out' registry, and simply not have sex with him at all if that 'risk' isn't something you are willing to take. I mean, in this world, for someone with your moral point of view,a guy choosing to opt-out of a pregnancy you want to keep is just a realistic consequence of having sex. In such a world, if you don't want to deal with that realistic consequence of having sex, then just don't have sex. Easy Peasy. It is as simple as that, and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:39 PM
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And I'm arguing that, at least from my experience, the behaviors that we call toxic masculinity are supported by beliefs that can be accurately described as 'negative opinions and feelings about men'. Though I guess I should qualify that with 'other men', instead of 'men', and that's where our disagreement actually is. Because listening to toxic men talk about other men, it does sound a lot like a feeling of animosity towards the male gender. When they think that all other men are competition to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 02:17 PM
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really? Then I think the a lot of the internet is using that term incorrectly, at the very least. I keep using internalized misogyny used to decry any woman that doesn't agree with a feminist opinion; and they tend to be the most stereotypical, 'traditional' feminine women I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 02:11 PM
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+/u/User_Simulator PersonofControversy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 10:04 AM
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luls when men show emotion they're usually ripped apart for being 'little bitches' (if they're crying), or violent potential predator abusers (if they're angry). This is a classic case of Apex fallacy. Taking what the top of the pyramid can do, and generalizing it to everybody below. The important thing about Kavanaugh isn't that he's a man, but that he's rich. Male or female, being rich and well connected enough means that less and less of the rules apply to you. It's that simple. Plus, there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:56 AM
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I can't tell if this a post angry at the Blue Pill screaming red pill values at them, or a vaguely Blue?Pill post that has no idea what the Red Pill is actually about, screaming that redpillers should stop being losers and instead adopt red pill values in order to get laid. much confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:48 AM
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I'm a straight black male, and I am honestly so confused right now. Is this how women feel when they read some of the crazier, faux "Red Pill" theories about female sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:31 AM
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wow. I did not expect such a calm, well-worded, honest reply. Thank you, for stopping the online shouting match this was quickly turning into. I can't say I agree with everything you've said, but seeing that you have opinions you actually seem to have thought carefully about, and honestly believe, does make me feel better about these kind of debate subs in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:29 AM
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luls i'm totally stealing this. this is an excellent piece of copypasta right here; truly delicious. I don't even care if this was actually serious I'm not. By the time I'm done, it will join the ranks of some of the Internet's finest memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:21 AM
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luls if I was attempting to find it, and was failing, I would be 100% behind the girl just grabbing my hand putting it where it needed to go luls
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 10:18 PM
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because the media makes a constant point of it? It's like how shows and films constantly make 'little dick jokes', or have characters laugh at guys 'who don't know what they're looking for', or even throw in a couple 'erectile dysfunction jokes' for good measure. Netflix legit just produced a comedy movie, whose central premise is a guy getting his junk cut off (which is a bit of tangent but I keep bringing up in vaguely related discussions because of how absurd I think it is). Say what you will…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 09:39 PM
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luls and now you're just getting pendantic. This is pointless, but I'll try one more time. Empathy exists. That's what I say is proven in a concrete, empirical way. I'm complaining about how nobody seems to actually fucking use it, and if you can't understand something as simple as that then I'm afraid my empathy has failed me; I can't understand how you seem to be thinking. I don't really get your argument about spending money on family, since it's almost completely unrelated to anything I ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 09:29 PM
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I feel like if female pleasure during sex isn't valued or understood, that's one of the few things that, in modern culture, is basically on women. It's the same thing with girls complaining about there last partner not being able to find 'it'; if you want to orgasm and the guy is that clueless, than legit just take his hand, put it where it has to go, demonstrate what he's supposed to and boom; you both leave that encounter satisfied. I feel like the reason we tend to think female pleasure isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 09:17 PM
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Luls can we just stop pretending like female sexuality is somehow 'higher' or less 'looks' based than men's? Sure personality is very important when it comes to love, but love is definitely not the same thing as attraction. We all have people in our lives that we love, but definitely aren't attracted to (e.g parents, children, etc...), and that's mostly a matter of familiarity and personality. But there's definitely a physical component to attraction, and while personality can definitely work as…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:58 PM
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??? You can't possibly not see what I'm trying to say. You can't possibly believe empathy is actually what you say it is. Emotion isn't Unfalsifiable; there's literally been brain imaging studies showing the acute existence of actual feelings, espcially empathy (because it's one of the easiest to prove; just google "mirror neurons", or "the scientific basis of empathy). But even ignoring all that, my point stands and yours doesn't make sense. Just paying taxes, and not thinking about where that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:54 PM
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I feel like attitudes like this is one of the reasons sexual assault victims get such a bad deal. Feminists keep trying to push for laws and stuff to make it easier to convict, but then men see the couple of situations like this that happen and blow up on the media, and then go back to feminists and ask questions like this, get replies like yours, and go: "Whelp. Looks like I'm not supporting that campaign." People only really care about things that they think might happen to them, or might affe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:42 PM
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who is this u/SRU_91 person? I think I might like them :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:40 PM
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I really, really think, that attributing all of that to empathy on the part of individual men, is just as fallacious as feminists attributing 'the patriarchy' to oppressive behavior on the part of individual men. Just paying taxes, without really thinking or caring (or begrudging) what those dollars are spent on, is not empathy. Just living in the world and doing what you are told, and having that indirectly help women, is not empathy, in the same way just living in the world and acting normally…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:39 PM
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Holy shit I come back expecting to see my entire world view blown to smithereens and about 500 people calling me some derivative of 'idiot', and actually find nice discussion and people agreeing with stuff and being polite. Is this what hope in the human race feels like?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 03:30 PM
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This is literally one of the arguments people have against abortion, recycled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 07:37 PM
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I appreciate the self-awareness, but I feel like if you ask a women 'do you like sex?', and she says 'yes I like sex', then we as men (I'm guessing you're a guy) either have to take her at her word or assume there's some kind of conspiracy to prevent the truth (women don't like sex) from getting out. And I don't believe in conspiracies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 10:52 PM
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Yes it is? Sorry to resurrect this conversation after so long, and I understand perfectly if you don't respond; I just didn't check my messages for a while because replies I get on this sub rarely put me in a good mood, and I don't like to intentionally sour my afternoon. You posted what you thought was the most charitable interpretation of TRP. I disagreed, thought about your points, and posted mine. You replied essentially calling my points bullshit, which I will admit factor in to why I didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 10:25 PM
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I think the whole 'honor' thing, combined with 'Don't Hit Girls', is why so many macho guys (in my experience, not saying all macho guys), absolutely hate it when girls talk back to them, or stand up to them in any serious way. Because its a challenge, a challenge they could usually respond to with violence (a shove, or a push, or something like that), so that no matter what they can always just intimidate their opponent, or 'act manly', and retain some face that way, even if they ended up being…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 10:22 PM
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holy fuck this is one of the most ridiculous, weird, just.... strange posts I have ever seen on this sub. Almost everything about this feels wrong, and a whole lot of it is just factually wrong. How is sex in the animal world always rape? Do you have any understanding of biology, or animal behavior? Hell, to get more to the point, do you have any understanding of human behavior? This definitely isn't blue pill, but it sure as hell ain't red pill either, which begs the question; why are you posti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 09:59 PM
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well then, I guess I was mistaken about what was going on here. I didn't read every discussion in the entire post, only replied to a comment where I thought I could have a meaningful impact. I read your ideas, thought about where you were coming from, and even accepted a few, but as you have said, you are not in any way willing to extend me the same courtesy because you've already decided you don't like me. I guess all I can say is... ok then? If you're not willing to have an actual discussion, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 06:44 PM
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Guys that can't seem to grasp the concept of a true, honest, actually supportive friendship. It just baffles me how, going through life, so many guys I've met don't seem to understand that there can be more to male-male interaction than constant rivalry, showmanship, and other competitive bullshit. The kind of guy that, if asked, never actually seems to have anything good to say about any of his friends. It honestly infuriates me, because this type of guy inevitably ends up surrounded by a few s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 06:40 PM
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It has become clear that you are not actually interested in a discussion. You accuse the Red Pill of treating conversation like a video game boss, where at the end you win if the other person is feels awkward and bad... and yet that is exactly what you are doing here. I tried to understand where you are coming from, and tried my best to communicate why I felt the way I did about TRP, and why my views differed from yours. But it has become clear that you are not so much as interested in understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 10:43 AM
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I know your probably going to ignore this, but here I go: The main tenants of TRP, really are just: Get in shape, learn social skills, get laid. The problem comes in at the 'learn social skills' part, especially as it leads into the 'get laid' part. TRP doesn't care about morals or anything like that. It only cares about what works. It only bases it's theories on what philosophies and actions worked to get them laid, and then spreads that as gospel, regardless of whether or not the action is mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 12:58 PM
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shhhhh. No one in Blue wants to accept that this is actually all TRP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 12:23 PM
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If your man is not pleasing you during sex... just fucking tell him. I guarantee 80% men would prefer their wives/partners just telling them what to do in bed to satisfy them, over a dead bedroom. If a husband isn't pleasing his wife during sex, and the wife doesn't say anything... then that's not the husbands fault. If the wife says something, and he says no, or ignores her, or refuses, then we're getting into "blame the guys" territory. But if not, then its still a problem suffered by women, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 12:16 PM
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I know I'm late so you probably won't read this, but I just gotta post it. This.... this is literally the entire goal of the TRP, you realize that right? That's why it has such a strong self-improvement bend to it, that, of course, isn't necessarily seen on PPD (as no one is going to try to debate the idea that self-improvement is good). The problems BP has with TRP mostly stems from the fact that TRP is actively trying to get better at attracting women. Not trying to become the kind of men wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 11:31 AM
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luls this post makes some massive generalizations, but I'll bite. First off, if the manosphere was something the majority of men took part in, the world would look very, very different. Saying that men all secretly hate women based off stuff you see on the manosphere is just as fallacial as guys on the TRP using tumblr feminism to prove that all women secretly hate and are jealous of men. Second off, if you believe polygamy being the male imperative (in animals), then you must also, logically, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 11:30 PM
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There are only a few things about TRP I agree with: AWALT - not because I hate women or anything like that, but because I started off with an unrealistic, Disney princess idea of what women were like, and that ended badly. Learning that women could be just as superficial as men was a big step up. I agree with AWALT, to the same extent that I think most of my female friends think AMALT. Women don't owe you anything. No one owes you anything - I can't remember which post I saw this on, but it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 11:18 PM
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So they choose to elect a racist, sexist asshole? Not really the best way to advertise not being racist, sexist, or an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 01:27 PM
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The Red Pill does reproach men for going after women "better" than them in the SMV. That's why one of the major tenants of TRP is "raise your SMV". It's literally as simple as that. TRP fully accepts hypergamy. That's why it exists. The beginning message of TRP is literally targetingg guys like the one you're describing; that's what the whole "expecting people to like you just because you're being yourself is stupid." stuff comes in. The kind of guy you are describing, is literally the exact kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 01:26 PM
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Here's the answer: No one actually believes in the Blue Pill, not even the Blue Pill. I've seen guys call Disney a Blue Pill indoctrination machine, but lets take a real good look at Disney. They're probably the first way kids interact with the whole Prince Charming archetype. Prince Charming is, for one, a prince (high status), attractive, usually highly skilled, smart, and strong, and tends to show, active clear interest in the main female character for the entirety of the movie, or go from al…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 10:34 AM
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I'm a guy. I fall in love with a girl when I, A) Find her attractive. I'm not one of those guys who only likes super models, but physical attraction, to me, is a big difference between platonic best friend love and romantic love. And I think it's that way for women to, otherwise the concept of the "friend-zone" didn't exist. B) Find her interesting. A girl with awesome hobbies she's actually passionate about is 10x hotter than a arguably more attractive, boring girl; especially if I share some o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 10:09 AM
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that's one the things I always wondered. Everybody always rags on fuckboys, but a fuckboy's main goal is to get laid. If something doesn't help them get laid, they stop doing it. So women hate fuckboys, but fuckboy behavior... works? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 09:52 AM
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I'm not really anti-feminist, per say. I'm just really, really against SJWs in the same way I'm really, really against the alt-right. I don't dislike most feminist ideology, I just dislike a lot of what tumblr feminists say. To be more clear, I don't like to identify for feminism for the same reason I, as a black guy, am not a Conservative (sorry to bring politics into this, just want to illustrate the point clearly). I don't feel like either group cares about me, or my problems, and it really f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 08:08 PM
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In my experience, "prude", or rather "virgin" shaming is more responsible for the sexual choices of young men. I had a friend who actually didn't want to hook up with a girl in our friendship group, because she was known to joke about guys lasting a short time in bed, he was a virgin, and he didn't want to have his first time with her (a girl he really liked) because he didn't want become the butt of a joke. The fact that, as far as I can tell, in modern media broadcasted where I live, it is up …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 07:54 PM
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holy fuck if this is actually what most girls are doing, you should find a way to make this a goddamn PSA. Or make a separate post on Reddit, or write an article, or something, because this is actually infuriating as a guy, because it honestly just feels like her friends have decided that you're not "good enough for her" or something like that. Makes you feel a bit like shit, especially when you're young and first starting out, because you've gotten one girl to like you, but then suddenly four m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 09:06 PM
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Because at this point there's so many goddamn studies and so many points of view that discussion has become almost pointless. There's too much data, being taken from too many countries, for useful debate to have any affect. The Wage Gap Exists, but unmarried women under 30 earn an average of 1,111 dollars more then men in the same age group ? But women are 36% more likely to go college than men (in the UK)? But mostly, it's because it doesn't really make sense for the Wage Gap to be caused by se…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 08:12 PM
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I think it's because "sexual harassment" is such a serious charge in many places, especially to us who have just left education or are still in education.. A kid pranking another kid at school, even if it's a mean prank? No big deal, the prankster gets detention, everybody moves on within a week or two. A kid "sexually harassing" another? At least in my old school, that would have swiftly resulted in the prankster being swiftly suspended, or even expelled. If one of the parents got involved on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 07:47 PM
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Sure, but I don´t think that changes my argument at all. Stuff like this is often classed as "blue-pill", just like all misogyny ends up getting classed as "red pill" by RP detractors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 12:04 AM
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No one unconsciously rapes anybody. But at the same time, men don´t rape women with the intent of cheating at reproduction and forcing a child (or at least on usually), even though, biologically, that is probably the only reason a rape behavior evolved; or at least, if we saw animals doing the same thing, that is what we would conclude. This is not in any way endorsing or apologizing for rape, it´s just saying that the reasons individuals rape (delusions of dominance, misogyny, etc...), and what…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:29 PM
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I was going to write a post, but this articulated everything I wanted to say 10 times better than I could have, and managed to educate me at the same time. A truly excellent response! To add to your second point, I think that part of the problem with any developing MRA movement, is that people tend to see victimization as a zero sum game, where if one group is victimized, any group dissimilar to it cannot be. Feminist seem to think that admitting nerdy white males could have a harder time growin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:17 PM
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This is why this sub can never work. Any reasonable discussion is drowned about by this stuff. Any "normal" non-douche RP dude can´t make a point without BP responders screaming about how the RP is all toxicity and misogyny, and I´m sure this post is going to end up linked the next time a RP responder buries a reasonable BP point in order to claim the BP is all "gynocentrism" and misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 11:07 PM
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I don´t think many men, even chads, think that dick isn´t of low value, or isn´t "plentiful" in the dating world. And I think, for most guys, isn´t sex usually an outgrowth of social capital? I will admit to having just googled the term, but the Wikipedia definition talks a lot about "trust, cooperation, and reciprocity" and "networks", which seems to basically mean having a wide range of good friends, which would be how you get invited to lots of parties, which is honestly where me and my frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 09:15 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 08:48 PM
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In my experience (which I admit, is not that expansive), chads and sluts are hilarious, because they´re essentially the same kind of person, approaching the same problem from different angles. Both like having sex. Both don´t mind having sex with a lot of different people. And when they get along, they can be good friends. But when they don´t, it is actually amazing to watch. From what I´ve seen, douche chads don´t like sluts because they feel like they are "cheating" or something. This is the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 08:47 PM
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well considering how you haven´t really explained why you disagree, all I can really say to that is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 10:02 PM
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eh, but I think there is a big difference between grieving father´s and protective parents/siblings. We are all human yes, but I still stand by my statement because it even applies to the situation you presented. Would anyone be OK with someone raping their little sister? Of course not, and boom! The entire problem is solved and there is no grieving father in the first place. So while I understand your point, I stand by my rule as stated, especially in the original context, because I think it´s …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 09:11 AM
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And for some odd reason, you are ignoring the main thrust of everyone else´s point. There is a distinction, yes, and it is in the methods used. But by considering ultimate goals, both are essentially eugenics. I understand what you are trying to say perfectly, and I agree with it, but I don´t think you even tried to understand me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 09:06 AM
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hey now, I take offense to this! I look around at my male and female friends, and I see that if I was a girl, I would already have a far-above average body (assuming I was as attractive a girl as I am a guy). But cuz I´m a guy the bar for a "fit" body is raised, and I have to work out more, and then keep working out to maintain, an "good body". I don´t think many guys even believe they could get a "good male body" by dieting, so magazines and adds and the like don´t even try, while diet trends a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 08:07 PM
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yes. I initially liked Red Pill because the main message I got from it was "You are the problem. You can´t expect women to change. The only person you can change is yourself." And now I lurk this sub, looking for the brief moments that philosophy resurfaces and kick-starts an actually interesting discussion...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:50 PM
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The "had fun with Chad" bit is obviously irrelevant, but I think we all would tell a loved one if they were marrying somebody we knew was only pretending to love them, which I think is the main thrust of OPs question once you separate the wheat from the chaff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:38 PM
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At the same time tho, I find that I truly do believe trans people. Any person who believes in what they are saying enough to willingly have their own penis removed and turned into something else, has my unquestioned belief in their sincerity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:29 PM
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I guess any "sexual" act that does not, by its end goal, improve the fitness of ones* future offspring? Marrying somebody and having kids with them despite knowing that they have a genetic illness your kids definitely will have. Caring for the weak and ill and therefore allowing them to live full lives and reproduce instead of letting nature "cull the weak". Staying together with your significant other, long after either of you are capable of producing children together; if all men operated pure…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:18 PM
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nah, pointing out truths is fine. Its just that a lot of people in IRL don´t seem to care or notice when this truth telling crosses the line into bullying. But otherwise I agree with you; my entire middle paragraph was essentially me agreeing with you. I just wanted to point out that the guys who feel like they´re being bullied, often were bullied. Not everybody just invents persecution in order to feel better about themselves; plenty of times the persecution actually is there (though persecutio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:05 PM
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I´m going to cut in here because I hate seeing people argue because they are just having a simple misunderstanding. Humans are animals. Animals tend to be attracted to characteristics of the opposite sex that signal good health, genetic fitness, and potential for healthy offspring. A male peacock with brilliant plumage, suggesting to females he was able to survive well enough to grow it. Or how human beauty standards tend to change to match what reflects success, because we´re also social animal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 06:06 PM
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This is literally the same phenomenon as the "typical Chad dude philander who spun plates and fucked every girl he could" suddenly developing very different views the moment his daughter starts puberty, or any of his similarly minded guy friends shows a sliver of interest in his sister. I personally believe that the main criteria for any philosophy on sexuality and prudishness vs. slutiness, is this; would you, truly and honestly, with the kind of people you´re defending dating the most innocent…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 05:44 PM
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the thing is, many of us have seen guys get shamed for doing this stuff. It´s just that people don´t realize that they´re shaming. If you´re a shy, nerdy guy, and then you see your personality type lambasted as socially awkward and unwillingly virginal and annoying to women, when you are socially awkward and a virgin and scared of being an annoyance to women... that does feel like shaming. When girls talk about the latest loser who tried to talk to them at a party and how they just ignored him u…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 05:33 PM
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This article is actually beautiful, and actually answered a question I always wondered whenever the "feminists" at my school seemed to cheer lagging male achievement. I didn´t understand how they didn´t realize that, as the gender split is roughly 50/50, the more men failed, the more sub-par men women would have to marry. The worse, on average, their sons would do. It´s like, people complained about "where have all the good men gone?", and then would see these issues and be like "doesn´t look li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 04:50 PM
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First of all, men do self-police each other for things like sexual harassment and assault. It´s just that, and I´ve seen this happen a couple of times, this is often done by just dropping a friend. If I had a friend who was constantly making rape jokes and who girls were afraid of, I wouldn´t be his friend for very long. And so the douchebag would go on to only be friends with the kinds of guys who don´t care about these issues, and boom! Everybody has a problem. In order for social policing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 10:10 PM
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but... so do men? Men also feel heartbreak and get hurt and feel used and rejected and unwanted and get manipulated etc... I hate how people on this sub seem to think that only men or women can be shitty, when in real life the actual moral is "people are shitty, watch out for it".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 09:43 PM
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The Blue Pill is the red pill for women. Modern feminism essentially is a red pill revolution, but for women. The Red Pill seeks to help solve the main problems men have in the sexual market place, and feminism does the same thing for women. All this talk about being against slut-shaming, pro-choice politics, body positivity, strict believe-women anti-rape strategies, etc... (all very feminist issues), all increase the amount of fun women can have in the sexual market place, in the same way the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 09:40 PM
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should women have to inform men, pre-sex, that they would get an abortion if they fell pregnant because of sex? should that be the only circumstances under which abortion is legal? Of course not because, ignoring a lot of other dumb things about it, that solution wouldn´t actually help any women. I feel like this solution completely ignores what happens when drunk people have sex. If he tells her, but they are both really drunk and being irresponsible, what happens? You see the problem. And yes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:41 AM
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I just wanted to say that your argument here is logical, well-reasoned, and seems pretty well thought out. If the system worked this way, it would be a pretty reasonable implementation of the idea, as it would protect men without infringing on women´s current rights. I just think that this would work better in a world were abortions were free, painless, and medically trivial. Even your solution to the post-pregnancy alert is practical, and I really don´t see what your opponent is saying (I hones…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:20 AM
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I feel like this system would work best in a world where even relatively late abortions were quick, painless and, most importantly, free. I don´t much for certain about this topic, but from what I´ve heard just living my life, abortions aren´t exactly cheap, and aren´t always exactly comfortable. So even if we changed this solution to "men have to pay for at least half of the abortion if they want her to have an abortion", we still have a situation where prospective father´s can say "get this po…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:01 AM
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eh I guess that we're having such a strong disagreement because nobody really seems to agree on what's actually happening. Essentially, I feel like this whole debate is being caused by one thing, and it's this. A person who feels like they've been ghosted, thought that they were in some kind of relationship. The person who did the ghosting did not think this, or is just being mean. That's the distinction that I think is tripping us up. For me, it's only ghosting if an actual relationship is pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 12:10 PM
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Not ghosting people is not only about morals, but also about respect. If you've gone out with someone a few times and want to stop, then sending them, at least, a quick "It's Over" message, isn't just about being a 'good person' or whatever, but about respecting them enough as a person to not let them waste their time waiting for you to 'come back'. Ghosting is worse than other methods of break ups, in my opinion, because of that brief period of confusion it leaves the other person in. Breakups,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/18 10:31 AM
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that's actually... really sad, and a lot more believable than guys pretending to be girls. i'm gonna go sit in a corner and think about life for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 11:48 AM
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fair points.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 11:10 PM
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wait actually from reading a few of the posts on their front page that really doesn't seem to be the case. Unless there is a substantial amount of guys willing to role-play being 17 year old girls nervous about their first date with a guy they like.... which I guess is possible but I find it unlikely, and, more importantly, really, really don't want to live in a world where that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 06:54 PM
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are they really? I've never actually read any of their posts, just kind of knew of them from google.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 06:52 PM
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This is going to be a bit of ramble but here we go; I'm not the strongest true believer in TRP myself- it's why I prefer this sub-reddit to the actual red pill sub-reddit. but, as far as I understand, it goes like this; There literally is no way for women to 'win' TRP, because in TRP men and women have conflicting sexual strategies. AWALT, in Red Pill terms, isn't meant to be a bad thing or a good thing; it's meant to be a statement, a way to get the new guys just discovering the red pill, who k…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 01:51 PM
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Here. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism I can also post links supporting my views that contain tons of stuff and numbers and sources, and not actually provide any concepts or ideas myself. Explain the Flynn Affect. I gave you simple challenge; all you had to do to convince me was explain the Flynn Affect. And instead you resort to the most classic Reddit tactic; the info dump. And also please tell me (even if it's not true) that you aren't getting your African IQ results from any research …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 12:46 AM
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google the Flynn Affect and then come back and try and explain how you can, in good conscience, explain differences in IQ between population groups via genetics alone. There's so much more to the science of genetics and intelligence than 'hur-dur non-white people are dumb hur-dur', and if you can't see that... well then I guess have a good life?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 11:47 PM
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Essentially, the best thing you can do here, is ask his opinion on a guy you actually like, or something like that. Speaking as a guy, there is on signal more clear than a girl asking me for advice on how to pick up guys, because she 'met this guy at a bar last night' or some other story. It's a pretty straightforward way of communicating that, while you still consider him a guy, he isn't in the same category of 'guy you want to date'. It's a variant of the same advice I give girls worried about…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 05:29 PM
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....because it's incredibly fucking racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 05:14 PM
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I'm going to weigh in on this discussion with my own point of view, which will probably be ignored but oh well here we go: As a guy with multiple sisters, as well as studying in a female dominated field where 70% of my friends are female (which, tbh, took some getting used to), I think the problem is this. Girls do have female friends. The whole idea of young women not having friends, but competition, is ridiculous. It's just that, to some guys, some female friendships don't look that much like …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 05:28 PM
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and you are basically a quarter of the manosphere's argument against feminism. You managed to twist this man's entire opinion into sexism, for essentially no reason. He actually made points that made perfect sense. No one likes a braggart, or someone who is acting too much like a show off or seems to be actively trying to be better than you; when those people are guys, they're called 'dicks', and people don't like talking to them either. But apparently now wanting to flirt with the female equiva…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 04:58 PM
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That is actually a really important distinction to make, and something I think the 'Red Pill' should accept as part of it's core philosophy; I think it would make it a far healthier place. I understand that some guys need a kick in the pants to start getting their life together, but the whole "the reason that girl didn't like you is that you suck, the world doesn't owe you anything and would gladly watch you die alone, etc...' can be a bit too disheartening, regardless of whether or not it's ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 12:36 PM
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I feel like Rocket League is just too advanced for humanity's baboon brains. Me and my friends have been playing for a few weeks and we still barely know what we're doing xD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 09:33 PM
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that is actually one of the most mature and calm responses I have ever received on this sub. If more people on Reddit were like you the internet would be a much happier place :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 10:21 PM
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they never tried to downplay her accomplishments. They just pointed out that she is rich. This entire comment thread seems to have taken the original, admittedly pretty dickish comment out of proportion. It's like everybody in this sub likes to generalize entire points of view onto comments, just so they can rant. Red and Blue pills both do this. Someone irks them, they get triggered, and rant. Take me for example. This comment thread annoyed me, I got triggered, and now I'm ranting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 01:40 PM
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Just thought I'd add that once every 2/3 months is about how often I'd say an average, interesting guy meets a girl who would like to date him. From what I can see most guys aren't that good at pulling girls in clubs and aren't agressive/confident enough to face rejection again and again on the dance floor until we achieve success, and so rely on meeting somebody at a party we really hit of with and going from there. And if that happens more than once every 2/3 months, then your living in a roma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:37 PM
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eh I'm gong to kind of going to have to agree with calibre-cat here. If you live in a place where most single dudes are having sex more than once a month then please send me your location and I'll be right over. I have (I think) a pretty unique position, because I study a pretty 'nerdy' course at my uni, and mostly hang with a mixed group of nerdy guys and girls, but also play a sport pretty damn well and so hang out with a lot of 'stereotypical' jocks. And so I have to say that the idea that 80…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:34 PM
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I think it's more like 20% of people have 80% of the 'partners', or something like that. Cuz looking around at my life, that seems far more realistic. Like, looking at my friends, most of them have had, at most, 2 partners; the highschool boyfriend/girlfriend, and now the college one they've found at my Uni. And then some of them have had in excess of 10; one girl I know actually threw a party once she hit 50! So it seems like there is a 20% of people that have a lot more 'partners', but since, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:24 PM
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The best way to "Be Yourself", that works for nerds like me, I found, is this. Imagine you are a movie character. Would you watch the movie of your life? Is the main character compelling? Does he achieve things? Is he experiencing any kind of character arc or progression? We all hate passive protagonists; is he an active force in the plot? Because that is a major problem that many guys don't realize they have. Nobody is interested in passive protagonists, and attraction (whether to the main char…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 01:52 PM
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I found the redpill because I was entirely clueless about women, and had a problem that I don't think anybody else on the sub had (and yet the advice I found still worked for me). It was simple. I don't how it happened, but I managed to get to a point in my life where I kept friendzoning girls / kept getting friendzoned by girls, because I did not understand what girls liked about me. A girl would be talking to me at a party, and things would be going pretty well. I would like her, and she would…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 12:30 PM
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Nah nah nah, I'm going to come in with the most credible academic theory I've found for why the patriarchy formed, even though I know nobody is actually going to take the time to read this. I'm mostly red-pill leaning on most things precisely because so much of the people there do the reading, so read this: Essentially it works like this. There was a classic study done, showing that maternal mitochondrial DNA is roughly twice as diverse as the Y-Chromosome, indicating that throughout history, tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 11:01 AM
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