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What you're saying isn't true, the average man is not desperate for an ugly woman. Most men have physical standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:51 PM
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If you pick an average guy, he'll be so grateful for sex and bonded to you that he'll never leave your side. Relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:40 PM
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Boring ugly people coping post #3625
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:44 PM
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You don't have to agree with their methods to agree with their solution. Yeah if you're lonely then do something about it, red and blue agree on this. But "negging" and "dread game" and "AWALT theory" is all retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 11:22 PM
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There's also a lot of economic stress on young people (student loans), and stress can kill libido. I think a bigger issue is how many adult men are still living with their parents. It makes intimacy tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 06:33 AM
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Without men, women don't get...civilization, Without being able to reproduce we wouldn't have civilization either. It's obvious they both need eachother equally on a collective level, otherwise there is no future for our species. The question was more on the individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:35 PM
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You're not wrong but socioeconomic status and race are obviously closely related. White people are generally richer and safer. What he said wasn't untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:27 PM
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Your comment read more like race baiting than his imo. He was just pointing out that you're pretty safe as a white person, not really assigning blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 02:47 PM
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Yeah that's true, not sure why that's relevant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 02:09 PM
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091110105401.htm This is the study linked on femcel subreddits I believe, it seems to only cover cancer and MS though I'm not sure why other illnesses would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 02:23 PM
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No one said anything about wanting to be in a dead bedroom relationship. The question is not "would men enter into a relationship with no sex" it was "what would make men stay in a relationship if sex was removed". Presumably men in dead bedrooms think staying in the relationship is preferable to divorce, the question is "why".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 08:59 AM
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Women are responsible for 80% of consumer spending. Yeah but what is she buying? Groceries and diapers? If it's for the family then it doesn't matter who is the one buying it at the end of the day. Especially when funds are all lumped together anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:59 AM
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RP also commonly claims that women marry men who they are attracted to, but if these men turn out to be violent or no-hopers, then RP blames women for not knowing this in advance. Haven't been a regular here in a long time but iirc rp says that woman have a dual mating strategy where they fuck around with "bad boys" and settle down with betas when they're post wall. They don't marry the "bad boys".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:43 AM
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Every statistic I've seen on the subject shows that men cheat more. Here's the Wikipedia article on it. From what I remember, the gap between men and women is closing since younger couples are more egalitarian, but men still cheat more. That said, the incidence of cheating is low enough to assume this is not the reason for the dating pool size difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 11:41 PM
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There is no argument around that. You seem to be right about this when I look more into it, I was conflating illegal immigration with regular immigration when I said they pay more than they get back. Lots of articles will start talking about illegals then switch to regular immigrants when it's convenient like this WaPo article, it's very misleading. But yeah it looks like illegals cost tax payers 115B+ per year even after you subtract their taxes (though this doesn't account for other ways they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 06:34 PM
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Using tax-payer funded goods and services while avoiding paying taxes is immoral. But they do pay taxes. This link has sources, you can also google it to see the Wikipedia page about this issue as well. It may be true that they pay less taxes, I'm not sure, however they don't get the same services a citizen does either. In all likelihood they pay more than they get back. If they didn't pay taxes then they would be immoral due to their tax evasion anyway, not the act of crossing the border illega…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 05:44 PM
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Well obviously not all crimes are equivalent and some crimes are not immoral. For example, smoking weed isn't immoral whereas murder is. I wouldn't report someone for smoking but I would for murder. I wouldn't report an illegal immigrant as it's not immoral in and of itself to illegally cross the border. Perhaps you're the type to report kids smoking weed or something, that doesn't matter. However, my point is that the perception that illegal immigrants are immoral is inaccurate and using the te…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 05:23 PM
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Yea, as I said "illegal immigrant" is accurate. It just gives people the wrong impression about the character of illegals. For example, people seem to think illegals commit more crimes once settled than the general population, which isn't true. It's the same way "undocumented immigrant" might give people the wrong impression about the legal status of the immigrants despite being an accurate term.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 04:41 PM
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Yea it's definitely a euphemism and it can muddy the waters a bit. "Illegal" is a bit misleading too though due to the negative connotation. A lot of people make incorrect assumptions about the types of people that cross the border illegally. It just depends how you want to frame the issue I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 05:14 PM
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They're illegal but they're also undocumented. Both are accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:58 PM
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It really depends on what your giving up and what your current pool of potential mates looks like. Everyone's situations different, I don't think there's a one size fits all answer to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:59 PM
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Then "Chad" would be feminine, to. Well yeah if every example of a masculine person exhibiting entitled behaviour is "not really masculine" or "faking" to you I can't really change your mind. But I disagree that they aren't masculine. Also, your examples continue to have the problem that the people you describe as masculine aren't losers. It's impossible for a winner to exhibit entitled behaviour, definitionally. This is true of feminine and masculine men alike. So if you want to prove that peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 11:15 PM
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From what I know about the fat acceptance movement, the primary motivation is to stop vitriolic behavior (at the societal level) or discrimination against fat people, it's not about getting fat chicks boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 08:33 PM
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You're conflating trait openness with being a "whiny loser"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 08:14 PM
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You've presumed being a "whiny/sore loser" is a feminine trait, so obviously your conclusion follows but that's a bad presumption. Now, obviously someone who has a lot doesn't have much opportunity to exhibit entitled behaviour but if conditions change we can observe it. For example, what if your chad here gets to college and realizes he's not nearly as good a QB as he thought he was (story as old as time) how does he react? What about if he totals his car doing some masculine risk taking behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 07:19 PM
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Brevity is a virtue, didn't think I'd have to spell that out for you tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:06 AM
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What's the point of writing 100+ words when your entire argument is the first 3 words of your first comment
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:50 PM
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Women treat education like a status indicator instead of a path to making money. No one gives a shit about a rubber-stamped education unless it actually pays for something. Aren't these two sentences contradictory? Clearly a lot of women do give a shit, even if it doesn't pay as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 06:40 AM
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She barely dated for years because she heavily focused on her academics. She didn't have to get it out her system "Dating" is not what is implied with "getting it put of her system". You can be heavily focused on academics and still hook up with guys a couple of nights a month. I had friends who did just that. Women are also incentivized to lie about their sexual history due to how much slut shaming goes on. I'm sure she said she was a "good girl" but there's no way to know, and it's not really …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:27 PM
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Yeah, I would agree on an individual level. Its tough to say whether or not missing out on something has improved your life or made it worse. Like an able bodied man might not have access to some help group or something and might miss out on meeting a woman as a result. I would still say though that, generally, as a class of people those who lose their legs will objectively miss out on more in life than an able bodied person and are worse off because of it. I would argue that anyone who has had …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 02:55 AM
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Some people "miss out" on a whole lot more than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 01:52 AM
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Keep in mind Dems used to be the rightwing party in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 11:02 PM
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I made this thread to point out that we have enough reasons to suspect that men just bowing in servitude and doing as they're told will not be enough. No, we don't have enough reason to suspect there is bias in the US family court system. You might have this suspicion but you have to understand that since its not based on any evidence it's not very convincing. To reiterate, evidence of bias in the Finnish court system is not evidence of bias in the US family court system. Also the characterizati…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 04:33 PM
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but I can demonstrate it using another country as an example Maybe this is a semantic issue but no, you can't. Demonstrating bias in the Finnish family court system does not demonstrate bias in the US family court system. If I want to demonstrate that a Toyota has bad breaks, I can't use a Mercedes in the demonstration. You've speculated that this problem exists, seemingly only on the basis that it exists elsewhere. Currently, we would expect that women will win the majority of custody cases bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:02 PM
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That appears to be a seperate problem from the one in the OP (women getting primary custody more often than men). demonstrably Weird how you acknowledge your argument is completely speculative in one comment: I know that my argument is a speculation And now you claim you can demonstrate the problem can't be solved by men becoming primary caregivers in half the cases. Anyways if it is demonstrable, demonstrate it using US data.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 07:37 PM
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I am attacking the argument that if men took the majority of child care burdens, So you're trying to show that a problem might exist in the future? Why not cross that bridge when we get to it, as atlas pointed out the system is working fine right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 06:16 PM
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Check if she's crazy first + don't be crazy yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:41 AM
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women want a strong capable man who will stand by them through marriage and kids Women have no problem finding this if they are deserving of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:01 PM
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Well yeah, poor people aren't getting married as often
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 06:36 PM
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The sexual marketplace value of a man builds up over time. Might be true for some, I'd argue it's RMV that builds not SMV necessarily. But besides that there is still value in a track record of success. Also using a prostitute isn't just failure, it's giving up and taking the easy way out. It's indicative of a losing personality/mentality that may show up again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 09:49 PM
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I don't think it's true, how do women have "innate" value simply by virtue of being women? There is no scarcity in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 06:46 PM
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The whole world. Everything is competitive, jobs relationships everything. You compete for your friends time every time you hang out. Study your competition, see what works see what doesn't, compare to yourself and do better. Be better than you were This is how you get nice guys "improving themselves" by being more nice to women. Things that are taught or are intuitive are misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:15 PM
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Comparison is necessary to assess yourself which is important for bettering yourself. How do you know of your working hard enough if you don't compare? There's so many metrics to assign an accurate objective value to your own existence, many of which are readily available through government stats and research. Of course you need to factor in intersectionality, like a black man should only compare to other black men to assess his human value because of how racist society is. Same with women, LGBT…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 05:39 AM
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No more whining about how you can't get laid please Actually I don't whine about this stuff precisely because I understand this how it works. It's a recreational activity, if she's not having more fun than using a vibrator or going out with another guy she could get just as easy from tinder why on earth would she hookup with me? Only way I personally get laid is by leveraging my care for her well being as well as my prolonged support for her through a long term relationship. And I get her care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 11:55 AM
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by making us aware that our casual sex partner likely despises us They don't care about you enough to despise you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 02:28 AM
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Probably black judging by the content of his posts + name.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/18 01:14 PM
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They're more interesting. I'd say that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 02:58 PM
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Lmao well be careful, admins have been banning a lot of subs recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 06:19 AM
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Nah, there was also male victims of male aggressors. It was about "all victims vs all aggressors". There just happens to be an abundance of male aggressors which shouldn't be surprising if you look at any crime statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 04:30 PM
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Men aren't comparing women to other women as much as they are trying to pick one they can love. I disagree, everything is relative so when you pick a pretty woman you pick one that is pretty relative to her peers. It's not necessarily a conscious comparison but it is a comparison nonetheless. Men clearly care about looks, therefore they do compare women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 12:29 PM
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Yeah and it makes sense that it would only apply to men. Bad sex for men is an unenthusiastic partner, for women there are so many more risks/consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 02:33 PM
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husbands would at least carry his weight Or at least help out in other ways. Too often women are fulfilling the male AND female gender roles in these kinds of relationships. That's what will breed resentment as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 07:51 PM
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Then the "adjusted" wage gap is just as misleading as the "unadjusted" wage gap, no? It makes it seem like gender is the only factor causing the discrepancy. I think that's what people here disagree with, the implication that the pay gap is due to discrimination when we can't prove that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 08:33 PM
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The latter takes into account differences in hours worked, occupations chosen, education and job experience. Do you believe these to be the only factors affecting wage?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 08:13 PM
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Water is insanely important, shiny rocks not so much. Why is water so cheap but diamonds are so expensive? Things aren't given their value based on how important they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 07:56 PM
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The truth value of their statement exists independent of who they are. I agree with you in this case but this isn't universally true for anecdotal arguments. Who you are affects both how you perceive the world and what you will experience within it. That's why we avoid anecdotal arguments (or should).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 05:23 PM
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I love baseball, but MLB has the benefit of a long season relative to other sports which helps revenue quite a bit. So if we’re talking popularity it might actually be 3rd, though I'm not sure how I could quantify that (unique viewer counts?). NHL is above soccer though by all measures, I agree with you on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 12:53 AM
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Women get a lot more shit for their appearance in reality though. They may have more people trying to prop them up, but they also have more people trying to tear them down. For men, people don't really give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/18 04:30 PM
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He doesn't want any old gf though, he wants Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 06:33 PM
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I do this too but I need to stop and get more calories because I'm too much of a skelly at 18 bmi and my gym gains have plateau'd. Gunna miss it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 07:45 PM
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You can care about things that don't directly benefit you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 03:57 PM
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Nerd doesn't equal intelligent. I thought it did, or am I getting geek and nerd mixed up? Or are those synonyms?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 12:48 AM
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rekt feminist videos Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 01:24 AM
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People who posted pics of themselves were, thats hardly representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:43 AM
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Empirical red flags: Likes pineapple on pizza Born on an even numbered day < 3 cats (# of guy friends / # of girl friends) * number of total friends exceeds 15 Has owned a horse or horse like creature Was born past 1900 Working a formula the relates slut factor to bmi normalized by income bracket but it's not ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 10:21 PM
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You can filter out advice posts, see the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 09:45 PM
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Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 02:34 AM
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Well I didn't get laid. So there is that. Because you weren’t trying to get pumped and dumped by some below average dude, you wanted a meaningful connection with someone you could actually have fun around. I’m just guessing, but am I wrong? Women don’t tend to get as desperate ime. I don't see how incels can't "clean up" They could looksmax sure but what if the best version of themself is still below what is required to get laid? Tbh, I don’t think it’s possible for most people who claim to be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 12:57 AM
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I think he meant looksmax but yeah you weren’t an incel, incels can’t “clean up”. Also you said you were 4/10 to begin with thats not that bad lol. You would have gotten laid to begin with if you just put out, men looking for a quick nut bust dumpster dive all the time, just gotta be right place right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 12:38 AM
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Yeah I was sitting here thinking “so she lost her virginity in college? Isn’t that completely normal?”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 12:31 AM
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Well the question was about RMV not SMV. Obviously there are attractive women at night clubs, pictures prove this, it’s not disputable. The discussion is about whether or not it’s a good place to find a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 07:29 PM
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What % of the population do you consider high value?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 07:21 PM
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Tfw no austic gf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:36 PM
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Atleast you still have your data
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 05:11 PM
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Yeah that's pretty unusual because those beliefs are pretty 19th century. I imagine it's more common where they're from though, so it might not be weird to them. Either way it's perfectly fair for them to put a condition on their own money. If she were a child this would be fucked up, but because she's an adult she has a choice and isn't entitled to their resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 09:49 PM
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It’s not weird at all, you ussually don’t give out free money unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 02:05 AM
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Everyone WANTS to help themselves. Selfishness and self preservation are human nature. It might be difficult to understand if you haven’t been there but it’s not a matter of “want”. Not everyone is capable of helping themselves, and therapy will not change this for a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 04:28 AM
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Exactly, drugs are the greatest cope known to man. Of course incels do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 12:17 AM
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Should all incels be forced to consume recreational drugs at the point of a gun? Implying they aren’t already.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 04:09 AM
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Is it really? What would a more accurate version be?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 01:35 PM
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Haha Jordan Peterson got BTFO on his ama, he’s not even trying to answer the tough questions. r/JordanPeterson officially on suicide watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:23 AM
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Assuming they each had one. Average is a bad way of expressing this data, median would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 12:48 PM
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They want the fast and easy answer, even if it doesn’t tell the whole story. Particularily if that answer involves some group they can get mad at, people love to be outraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 07:01 AM
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Don’t have any currently but I’d like to maybe get into some sort of team sport or board games or something social
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 04:56 AM
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That makes sense. I guess it’s lucky I don’t have to deal with that shit as a dude. I suppose it’s less likely for a women with an engagement ring to face that kind of thing because they seem less vulnerable with a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 07:42 PM
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I meant the free drinks, the not being charged for things in stores, the guys at Pep Boys installing whatever I had just bought in my car for free, sales guys rushing over to see if I need help. Hell, even my tips while bartending took a hit. Do these sorts of things happen to all single women or just attractive ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 07:14 PM
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People define it differently depending on who you talk to. The wiki on this sub defines alpha as someone with the traits of a leader ("high value"), a beta as someone who has traits of provision ("low value"). So my personal definition is that an omega has the traits of a loser (no value). Basically it's lower sex appeal than even a beta. Pro athlete would be alpha (leader), a middle class office worker would be beta (provider), a NEET robot/incel would be omega (loser).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 02:50 PM
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My point is that he's a beta who has an alpha trait. He's assertive and speaks his mind, that's an alpha trait. But he's overwhelmingly beta/omega. And tbh how many 300 lb waifu weilders are advocating libertarian politics irl? Most are just shit posting about how "liberals are the worst" on 4chan and reddit. I'm pretty sure the ones that go outside and continue that shit aren't neurotypical either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 02:23 PM
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Betas can have some alpha traits. No one really fits neatly into one of those boxes in my experience. I'd say being timid is a beta trait but vocal neckbeards aren't timid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 02:07 PM
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For me, I can't really justify cheating in general, much less when you know you've got a kid on the way. It's just a shitty thing to do. I've never seen this play out IRL That situation would never happen to me because I wouldn't get a girl pregnant who I wasn't serious about. It's not that hard. But hypothetically I would first not cheat (obviously). Then I'd do some soul searching to figure out why I'm dissatisfied with my relationship so much that I want to cheat. If I think it's fixable, I'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 02:00 PM
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I'd say they're less likely to say controversial things in person. Timid people avoid conflict, so unless they're so oblivious they can't tell that they should or shouldn't be filtering they're probably filtering too much. When we can hide behind our keyboards though, anything goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 01:46 PM
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Thats probably it, I’d say. They probably think you don’t want them to approach, so they don’t because they’re shy and risk averse in social contexts. So they may be attracted you just don’t know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 03:32 AM
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Have you talked to them during your design projects/group assignments? Or are you ussually distant due to your shyness
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 03:24 AM
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They might be in an environment to meet them more easily e.g. they’re involved in nerdy hobbies or in stem majors/careers. Their circle of friends plays a role too I imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 03:19 AM
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Well think about it, if you’re more avoidant than average and they’re more avoidant than average then your odds of meeting/hitting it off are lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 03:01 AM
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Like the tortured artist kind of trope? I could see that actually, gotta be attractive to pull it off though haha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 02:47 AM
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Might be that you seem intimidating, either in appearance or in behavior. If you give off the vibe that you don’t want to be bothered they’ll try not to bother you. Shy people can seem this way accidentally, it’s some combination of resting bitch face and keeping to themselves. I can’t speak for all shy/awkward people though obviously, maybe I’m an outlier or it’s a regional thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 02:41 AM
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I also seemed to attract a bunch of broken emotionally fragile men for a while who wanted me to "fix" them and complete them. Is ths type ever attractive to anyone? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 02:09 AM
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that I'm non-intimidating Yep, I’m awkward/shy af and this is exactly it. Awkward guys are looking for a sweet girl they think is in their league. Dominant girls only make you more nervous than you already are. Why would I want to feel MORE emasculated than I already do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 02:00 AM
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I think they meant with in the context of a relationship, not that men provide nothing on a societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 08:41 PM
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Tbh I don't see the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 04:38 PM
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Prevalence of single moms. It's increasingly likely that low SMV men will have to take care of kids that aren't theirs, and less likely they will reproduce in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 01:22 PM
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I'm a dude by the way, but my point was that I wouldn't fault her for expecting that the man is going to pay when 99% he has in her life. If she offers, even better but it's not a cultural norm for her to do so, so I wouldn't disqualify her on that basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:11 PM
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I view these things as just the cost of doing business. Some dates fail, no way to know whether or not she just wanted food. Sure, if it’s too good to be true it probably isn’t but there’s no real way of knowing. Also, less attractive women do this too. It’s a cultural thing that the dude pays, I don’t really mind to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 05:33 AM
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Stable women don’t value unloyal men though, they want commitment from the best men. Even from a redpill perspective this doesn’t hold. She wants to be the special, not just another notch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 05:19 AM
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I think this could be true (though your numbers seem exaggerated). The average man puts way less effort into their appearance, why would they be objectified to the same extent?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 08:35 PM
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Well you could bring in arranged marriages, which have been shown to have no significant difference in love or satisfaction. I know a few indian people who are opting into arranged marriage because of their success rate (and perhaps their lack of success in western markets, though they claim not to try). However there is realistically no way to implement it, the same way you can’t redistribute sex. Also with casual sex being what it is in the west, I doubt it would produce the result seen in Ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 04:50 PM
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What does any of this have to do with the topic at hand
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 02:27 AM
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This isn’t true in my area, but if it's true where you live then the solution is to stop approaching and looksmax. If you can’t reach 8/10 then accept that you aren’t cut out for it and stick to grinding dating apps, or move NY or other less competitive markets. If she’s calling you creepy she’s not going to say yes anyway, there’s no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 04:48 PM
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I don't think men will be able to fix the problem. Most men will be content with their sex dolls. I doubt it, it’s a poor substitute for a woman. They may become more common out of necessity due to changes in the SMP and RMP, but no one will be content with it. It’s just a way to cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:31 PM
1

I have to stop drinking
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 06:27 AM
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Marriage was always Gynocentric Could be wrong but wasn’t marriage more or less selling your daughter at one point? How is that gynocentric?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:34 AM
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They’re probably going to call it a “toxic masculinity” problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 05:37 PM
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called creepy How often is someone called creepy just for approaching? being rejected You underestimate how often chad gets rejected, he does just fine. That could lead to anxiety. no? I don’t know enough about anxiety to say, honestly. BTW I think we’re in agreement that low value males should stop approaching, no? Its bad for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:19 PM
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I guess that’s true. I do think sexual prowess and sexual experience are correlated but your right it’s not unversally true that chad would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:08 PM
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Imagine having an anxiety disorder and then a scary looking guy catcalls or approaches you. 33% of women experience an anxiety disorder in their lifetime. This is why I will never approach unless I’m at-least 7/10 with good social skills, it’s just cruel otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:52 PM
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I don’t deny this, but I’d argue there are many many causes. Many of which are only tangentially related to fredom. The fact that some solutions are infeasible/undesireable doesn’t mean we shouldn’t care about the problem at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:07 PM
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But Chad most likely lost his virginity at a young age to a girl with similar innexperience. He probably got more than enough practice before adulthood through a mutual learning process. Women shouldn’t have to teach their man how to have sex, lol. If that doesn’t scream “low value” I don’t know what does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:43 AM
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Because living your life in a way that makes you happy is a lot of work. Not necessarily, it takes a different amount of effort for different people. This varies from demographic to demographic, environment to environment. I'm just saying that it shouldn't come at the cost of freedom Sometimes lack of happiness is a result of lack of freedom, in which case the solution is to give more freedom. Not sure why you’re attributing a cost to a solution that hasn’t even been proposed. The purpose of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 02:08 AM
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Why do you think people are choosing to be unhappy? Why do you think certain demographics (like natives) make this choice more than others? Do you believe you have nothing to gain from helping others live happier lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:07 AM
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3rd date and LTR potential will probably be my rule for anyone but if she pressured me I’m not sure if I could say no realistically. It’s likely harder to say no to an attractive woman, but I have very very limited experience so I don’t know. Male.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:00 AM
1

Why three mores?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:30 AM
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why do you start if you don't want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:28 AM
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write shit so vague and overly applicable it ends up being true having read tao te ching as well, this seems to be a common trend in Chinese philosophy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:16 AM
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A lot of MGTOW are more accurately MSTOW or men sent their own way. It’s understandable that they’re bitter and want to see women go through the same things they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 12:52 AM
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She in hospital? You should visit sometime
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 09:48 PM
2

Will there be an advice flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 02:42 PM
1

Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:13 AM
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Blues have no problem with legitimate grievances. It's just that "AWALT" and "single mom's exist and are trying to get the highest quality man they can" are not legitimate grievances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 06:18 PM
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plus the men in those relationships are often in the same circle Does your friendships with the men in your circle differ from your friendships with the women in your circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 09:04 AM
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My results were: Explorer at 29 Builder at 33 Director at 60 Negotiator at 67 Weird, the video made it seem like it was a compass, like I shouldn’t be able to be a Director and Negotiator since E and T are inversely proportional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 01:19 AM
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You're pointing out impoverished places where people are desperate. People abandon morals in desperation, law or not, that's why you see so much crime in ghettos. Of course the laws restrict people's ability to be immoral so there's more violence in lawless countries, but normally people don't need forced not to murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 06:56 PM
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He's an interesting person, I bought is his book (antidote to chaos) because I saw some videos of his and wanted to hear more. It was actually surprisingly religious but I guess I should have expected as much if I had done research prior. None the less, it seemed like really good advice at first but I realized that I knew most of these things already, it was just phrased in a way that makes it sound more profound than it is. Really, the book didn't need to be nearly as long as it was. I still li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 09:22 PM
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I phrased that wrong, it doesn’t automatically make you a bad person but it makes you a worse person. Of course you can be bad in some areas and good in others. Virgins are ussually bad in many respects, making them bad people, which is why they aren’t selected. As I said, shy/awkward people get laid all the time, because they have value in other areas (more attractive for example) which makes them better people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 03:35 PM
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Vast majority of shy/socially awkward people get laid though. Besides, those are bad traits in and of themselves, if you make people uncomfortable by talking to them you are an objectively bad person. Your intentions are irrelevant, the results are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 05:56 AM
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Not really. It’s like saying “most drunk drivers are idiots but most idiots aren’t drunk drivers.” The % of the population that are idiots is much higher than the % of population who are drunk drivers but that doesn’t make the statement false.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 12:21 PM
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Not saying that having sex means your a good person, I’m saying not being able to have sex is correlated with being a bad person. What % of the population is a virgin? Its not that big a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 04:20 PM
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I said most not all, and it’s absolutely true. “Shy” and “poor social skills” are negative personality traits, they make you a worse person. Lack of attractiveness also lowers your value, it’s almost guaranteed that beyond a certain age you have a bad personality and low attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 04:12 PM
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“Most”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 04:06 PM
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High value, capable of providing something of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 03:39 AM
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Most virgin males are NOT good people. There is a reason they are a virgin, particularily if they are friendless virgins. They go unselected for a reason. It’s very rare that a good man goes unselected.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 03:26 AM
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Fuck exams. Can’t wait to graduate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 03:05 AM
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I was pretty annoyed. Was it just because he was older?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:44 AM
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A lock is designed to open for only one key. In what way are women designed to stay virgins for only one man? Easier to be a slut than it is to be a stud. This explains why men might deserve praise for being studs, but it doesn't explain why women deserve shame for being sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 04:22 PM
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Works on some women, doesn't work on most women. The parts of TRP that do work on most women are so conventional they're pretty much a meme at this point "hit the gym bro, just be confident".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 03:45 PM
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Vast majority are, they're just under appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:34 AM
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Reminds me of this greentext lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 02:22 PM
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Imo so long as you aren't so ugly that people in your league are absolutely repulsive you can. If you can get past that first hurdle, they'll look better and better as you become closer and you subconsciously overlook their flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 02:54 AM
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Are you saying men aren't as close with their friends then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 09:14 PM
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There's a TED talk on it, I don't have a link handy though I'll link it when I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 09:13 PM
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Most men have friends, don't they? I'm in university but everyone around me seems to have friends, it almost seems like a prerequisite to enter a relationship in the first place to have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 05:27 PM
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Disagree, loneliness has measurable health affects. Humans are social, they need socialization just as much as they need good sleep an exercise, if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 05:15 PM
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It never meant anything about accepting or caring about OTHER PEOPLE'S SEX. You got a source for this definition? Under this definition, I can say "homosexuality is disgusting", call promiscuous women sluts, etc etc and still say I'm sex positive because I'm ok with being promiscuous myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 05:58 PM
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yes, you did Mind explaining how? I don't see how he has misapplied the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 05:08 PM
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Lmao my thoughts exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:11 AM
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Not being chosen isn’t oppression. Imagine if you said such things about other groups? I do. Is it oppression of when someone finishes at the bottom of their class due to their low IQ? No. Is it oppression when someone can’t get laid because they’re hideous? No. I’m not bummed out that low IQ people aren’t becoming doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 08:40 PM
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It requires some work, signifies attractiveness, charisma, courage etc. Pretty much all the qualities I can think of that a man needs for casual sex are respectable/admirable qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 07:47 AM
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It’s a bummer How is it a bummer? On some level it drove the evolution of our species, I think it's just fine the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:41 PM
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Is it "selfless" to misrepresent yourself to try to get something from someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 03:50 PM
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This board talks way too much about the small percentage of very low value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:44 PM
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Most normies will get along just fine by looksmaxing, adopting realistic standards, getting stable income and improving their social skills. How to choose a good, compatible partner and how to be a good partner yourself is something that might need to be taught sure, but thats useful to all genders. Nothing you can’t look up though either. Men who can’t get partners despite doing all the above (or can’t do all the above due to disability) might just not be cut out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 03:50 AM
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That sounds romantic lol, did you end up doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 03:23 AM
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Lol tbh I hope these are right for my own sake. Would you atleast agree that RP exagerates this effect though? The charts look pretty close aside from at the tails, right up to the 40 year old range. What are the percent differences like at around 45? Looks like around 20%, I wonder how much harder it is for the average woman to find an LTR with a 20% difference in pool size. I also wonder what this graph will look like in 20 years, or how it looked 20 years ago. Intresting stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 03:14 AM
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Physical attraction is crucial to a relationship, and it's always toxic when it's only one-way and a couple tries to overcome that 100% lethal problem in a relationship and the inescapable death-spiral that lack of attraction causes in a relationship. It's sad to see couples in denial. It's sad to see couples try to fight the inevitable. It always ends badly. Physical attraction is the foundation of a relationship. Absolutely right, if you're below a certain physical attractiveness you're fucked…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 11:18 PM
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Not all manipulation is equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 10:52 PM
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I'm not sure they're hamstering, I think they're trying to save face a bit to better their chances of getting into an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 03:42 PM
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Nah I think they're just giving advice that worked for them. A lot of people can actually just "be themselves" and get laid. I don't think they are intentionally trying to sugar coat things, it's just that their experiences have been pretty sugar coated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 02:20 PM
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women are generally loyal, nurturing, and caring. This might be misinterpretation on your part. Women are more loyal, nurturing and caring than men in general but that doesn't mean they are all loyal nurturing and caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 01:54 PM
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i hope to move onto some Eastern religious texts after, though, since they seem extra new/unfamiliar. You should read Tao Te Ching, it’s super short and pretty thought provoking. You could easily find it online for free in english, though there are a few different translations out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 01:31 AM
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But regardless of cause, being more neurotic means you’re overly responsive to stressors. How is that not emotional fragility?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:45 PM
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Women are more neurotic statistically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:25 PM
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Yeah but where were their fathers? Surely they have some responsibility as well for not being there for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:22 PM
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Why are there so many attractive women and ugly men on this sub? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 03:37 PM
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Sluts can get relationships too, and pretty easily actually. Nice guys don’t get sex or relationships. And it’s not even unfair “nice guys” are manipulative ass holes trying to leverage an innocent women’s emotions to get what he wants. Sluts don’t need to do stoop this low, and don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 03:34 AM
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Not exactly, sluts actually get sex, nice guys don’t get anything. Also sluts are more upfront about their intentions, no one gets hurt and no one ends up on r/cringepics generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 01:34 AM
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I agree that this happens, I disagree that it's "leading them on" but that's just semantics. I will add that men are in this position too though. You occasionally see posts on r/cringepics or r/creepypms of guys in this position. They think that because they're going on dates and having sex that they're in a relationship and freakout when she decides it's not going anywhere or is found to be doing the same with another candidate. I still wouldn't say he was "led on". I think it's irrational for …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 04:43 PM
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So there is no alternative to "leading" women on for sex to see if you are compatible? It's not "leading her on" anymore than going on a first date is "leading her on." Leading her on would be pretending like your still interested when you're not or never were. If your still figuring out if you are interested there's nothing wrong. But you are deliberately making it seem like you are interested in something exclusive/long-term by going on dates and having sex. You are interested in an LTR, you j…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:42 PM
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So you're wrong here. Moving on. True but i'm not sure that really changes anything. Plenty of women put out, whether they are happy to just put out or not is irrelevant from the man's perspective. Her happiness is her responsibility, if you don't intentionally lead her to believe that a relationship will come out of it then you're morally fine. She needs to figure out if the risk of having nothing come out of it is worth it or not. You aren't "using" her, there's no need to think you are, if sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:23 PM
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Q4All: What alternative do men have today? Settle for a qt 5/10 gf. or have casual sex with the ones that put out. They wouldn't be putting out if they didn't feel they had something to gain from the exchange. If they're wrong, and they do actually gain nothing from the exchange that's their own fault. There isn't a need to lie to someone to get casual sex by pretending to be interested in a relationship, there's more than enough women happy with casual encounters. Q4All: Why do women often feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:06 PM
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Imo, you're responsible for your own happiness. It starts way before the bedroom, you have to pick a person who is going to give you what it is you want. If you pick the wrong person, that's on you to figure out what went wrong in the vetting process and how you can better select someone in future. You also have to accept that there will always be very promising investments that fail, that's life. Conversely if "happiness" to you involves a relationship or access to fwb type situations, it's in …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 02:41 PM
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I always thought the UK bad teeth thing was genetic, like overcrowded teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 02:22 PM
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The average women pics seemed more attractive then the average men pics to me. Unsurprising, I imagine the average woman puts more effort into her appearance than the average man. Pretty consistent with my experiences overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 11:45 PM
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Everyone is shit in t-ball, if you were pushed to work at it you could have been mediocre atleast. And though I agree that finding a social outlet for a child is the main thing, D&D is going to do nothing good for your social status as a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:42 AM
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Definitely forces them to socialize, no? I spent my early child hood playing free mmorpgs where i bought my gfs. I cant help but think if I was forced to socialize that I wouldn’t be so avoidant as an adult. Of course sports isn’t the only way to accomplish this but playing sports also puts you higher up in the middle school social hierarchy where I’m from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:16 AM
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Is universal basic income viable?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 03:50 PM
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2.5/10. Single 21 year old male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:56 AM
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Lol you’ve actually heard that type of thing in person? Thats unbelievably cringey
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:36 AM
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Why do you think this is? Halo effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 06:42 PM
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Yes, in the sense that people inclined to have alot of sex should be able to do so. To each their own I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:42 AM
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Need that waffle maker tbh, can’t live without mine. Shits expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:38 AM
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I wasn't making a moral argument, but I'd be interested to hear a moral argument in favor of circumcision and lesser forms of FGM. Don't think I've ever heard that before.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 10:59 PM
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Not in the places where it’s practiced culturally. But in the west they are, even nicking the clitoral hood. By that same standard circumcision should be illegal. You can't say the bar for illegality is the grievous bodily harm certain types of FGM cause when lesser forms of FGM are also illegal. That's u/ffbtaw's point. Also, no one here really cares about African laws, we should strive to be less like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 10:35 PM
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No I think for every woman that over values herself there is another who under values herself and ends up dating worthless men when she's better off alone/waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 06:16 PM
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All forms of FGM are illegal though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:44 PM
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You got me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:08 PM
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The idea that the average man is looksmatched with the average woman just isn't true. A larger portion of men than women put zero effort in to their appearance, and are thus rated lower. This actually makes it easier for betas to become attractive because the competition sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 04:15 PM
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For other things sure, good exercise and diet helps you cope pretty good and enjoy other things in life more. Maybe I misspoke. My point is they'll never get laid. For some people the genetic quality just isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 04:46 PM
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I don't actually agree with the "unequal pay for equal work" argument but I think the argument is that the employer views women's work as lesser when it objectively is not. So they don't hire women because they see women as inferior employees, which is the same reason they pay them less, when in reality they are just as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:22 PM
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For some people "work on yourself" is just a meme. They will never be normal, regardless of effort, there is no point in attempting it. Not everyone is as lucky as you and I.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:15 PM
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Some people categorize everything, don’t read too much into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:56 AM
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Wealth and status doesn’t just come out of nowhere though, betas are typically harder working, more intelligent and less socially inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:53 AM
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This has been my experience as well. I thought it was to do with the racial climate in North America, but I guess not eh? I wonder what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 05:42 PM
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Considering that the vast majority of both and women manage to find partners Yes but the vast majority of people have basic things like friends and aren't physically repulsive in appearance. There are absolutely bare minimums, they're just so far outside of the norm that they don't matter to most people. It's why wizardchan exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 07:57 PM
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Basically the advice in the video is to adress a common hobby or interest, and ask a direct question about it. It also said to keep messages short (1-3 sentences), watch your grammar and don’t talk about appearance. Overall solid advice, but if your pics and profile don’t measure up you won’t be getting shit anyway obviously. Messaging is just one piece of the puzzle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 01:59 AM
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Well, unequal gender ratios limit biodiversity too. Like 1 man and 1,000,000 women would still have biodiversity problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 01:36 AM
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Where did you get “extroverted” from? Introverted doesn’t mean anti-social.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 04:56 AM
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There’s unironically a lot of good threads on r9k
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 04:09 AM
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People never seem to notice how selective men are. My theory is that it’s because men never had to settle the way women did. Now that they’ve got financial agency, the amount of women deciding they'd rather be alone than date a low value male is naturally rising. That’s why people only seem to notice women being picky, men have always been picky and women had to work hard on their appearance and personality as a result. The amount of truly low value women is really small. Men will adapt eventual…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 05:27 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 06:15 PM
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Really? They were always super popular in my school, they were friends with everyone because pretty much everyone needed atleast weed. Except for the losers who were your typical omegas, too anxious to approach the drug dealers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 05:33 PM
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Well my ex has a low n and she for sure let losers inside her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 06:16 AM
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Lots of people Google their problems nowadays. If a dude gets called a creep when trying to flirt he may very well Google "how to not be a creep when flirting" and an article like this might show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 09:12 PM
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Is it a class thing instead of a race thing? Or is it just black dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 12:05 AM
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From what I’ve observed, women like guys who are ambitous, confident and have good self esteem, not arrogant men. It could be that what you perceive as arrogance, they perceive as one of those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 07:40 AM
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How exactly do you find these people though? They seem few and far between from my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 07:38 PM
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There are just betas that whine way to much and won't get off their ass. Isn't that what makes them omega though? More neurotic, less conscientious more ugly betas. How do you define omega?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 04:48 PM
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So yeah, I'd fuck a woman who's also fucking other dudes but I wouldn't date her. Do you even have a choice though? Before you’ve explicitly agreed to be exclusive she’ll be dating and fucking other guys as well, as I understand it. How do you convince her to be exclusive from your first date on? Or by “date” do you mean “exclusively dating”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 03:02 AM
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Nah i'm still omega, i'm just a single omega now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 06:24 PM
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My ex dated me because she had low self esteem, possibly also because I am white and she seems to only like white guys despite not being white herself. Luckily she got out of the relationship while she was young.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 05:47 PM
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Because I learned more about personality, basically. Tbh the blue pill was more bitter than the black pill. I realized that I’m not only ugly, but I have a shitty personality as well. When I say shitty, I don’t mean rude or narcissistic I mean neurotic, agreeable and being overly avoidant in general. I have friends, people say I’m a good guy but my personality is extremely unattractive to women making it shitty. I’m objectively worthless to any woman, both ugly and useless. Unfortunately persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 06:37 AM
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I find myself agreeing with blue and black pill posters the most. I’m not sure what that makes me. I used to be pure black since I spent so much time on 4chan and youtube watching lookism shit. Since I’ve been lurking here and seeing other points of view I’m pretty blue leaning now. I’ll probably just remove the black alltogether so it doesn't cause anymore confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 10:24 PM
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Most blue pillers agree with you that it’s very important, they just dissagree with you on how important it is relative to other things like personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 09:20 PM
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This might be because they have options, ugly couples have no choice. They stick together because they’re terrified of the idea they will be alone forever. Have you ever seen a couple that seem like they hate eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 08:57 PM
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No, they aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 08:50 PM
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Ugly people are more likely to have shitty personalities as well. Unconscientious behaviour typically results in ugly people. It also lowers self esteem and confidence etc. Ugly people are less fun to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/18 06:21 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/18 11:39 PM
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I don't get it, is it because they're in the honeymoon phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 08:49 PM
0

You could always supplement low birthrates with immigration, by time other countries reach a point where they have low birthrates we should have enough automation to sustain our way of life with a low birthrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 05:13 PM
5

Most women aren’t that bad. There are alot of shitty people out there, men and women both have this problem. I don’t think one side is worse then the other when it comes to unreasonable expectations, the expectations are just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 10:00 PM
1

They made so many assumptions about your character and past relationships and were wrong about everything they assumed. It really demonstrates the tribalism in these groups, “if you’re not with us then you must be some caricature of those against us”.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 07:03 PM
1

What a pathetic life, substituting a womens love for a dog. I’d rather die.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 04:59 AM
1

That's good to hear, I just started my skin care routine recently and never stopped to question the long term effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:08 PM
1

By good skin care do you mean cleanser + toner + moisturizer daily with regular masks to clean out pores? Or does that stuff make it worse and you actually mean vitamins and shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 05:05 AM
4

Shy people are not fun to talk to until you get to know them. They’re scared to say the wrong thing and since they avoid talking to people they tend to have poor social skills when it comes to meeting new people. Most people can tell I’m not comfortable and don’t want to drag out the encounter for my own sake. As a result people don’t become attracted to me until they get to know me more through regular encounters (like school or classes etc.) because I’m boring until I get comfortable. That’s j…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 04:17 AM
2

Yeah maybe it's because I'm ugly and don't get many compliments but I appreciate it whenever I get it, regardless of who it's from. It's a good feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 08:48 PM
2

Admittedly unexperienced but I always viewed these sorts of “feels” as a function of intimacy and time. So, regardless of the person, so long as the amount of time spent on a woman is minimized you won’t catch feels even if you have sex. Of course everyone is different, some catch feels quicker than others, but I wasn’t aware it was a significant difference between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 09:34 PM
5

Normies party on a weekly basis? TIL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 11:44 PM
1

Which of the “Insteads” would you use? Which would you leave unchanged?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:01 AM
1

Make suure to link it when your done lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:02 AM
2

as someone who delights in crushing the status of upstart poser males, I love TRP for giving men this idea. How do you go about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 05:34 PM
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I’m starting to think there are a couple of thresholds like “good enough to date” then “good enough for casual sex” etc. I don’t think it’s necessary for a man to meet all the thresholds to have a successful LTR but, as a man, I dislike the idea of not meeting them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 12:43 AM
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Yea, I wouldn't get a tattoo. Does not fit my personality, and would attract people I'm uninterested in. I imagine it would help your immediate SMV but the way you carry yourself and speak would have bigger impact then a tat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:38 AM
1

Do you give out casual sex easily though? I believe the point of the OP was that tattoos are good for getting casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:38 AM
2

No, life sucks for 99% of people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 11:18 PM
3

My understanding of musculinity (as a man) is that a man should: a.) feel emotions (they are visceral, denying you feel them is lying to yourself. the soldiers on d-day were afraid) b.) express positive emotions, but not negative (smile, but don't cry) c.) don't let any emotion influence your judgement or dictate your actions (the soldiers did on d-day did not run away) Without point a, points b and c become trivial. If it is considered toxic to not want to put my burdens on others by expressing…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 01:37 PM
1

Been listening to his shit since you linked it on your last account, wish I could have known about him when he was still around. Same age as me, pretty crazy how young he was.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 12:49 PM
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Snoke’s plan was for Rey to believe Kylo could be turned and give herself to the empire. Rey’s plan was to turn Kylo and work with him to defeat Snoke. Kylo’s plan was to trick Snoke, kill him and then turn Rey so that they could rule together They all failed (as did almost every other character in the movie) but Rey was left in the best position at the end of the day, with next to no consequences where as Snoke is dead and Kylo lost the one of the new order’s greatest assests (snoke himself) wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 09:13 PM
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No she didn’t, she assumed Kylo would turn on Snoke, he did. She got rid of a master Sith, with no consequence except implied bruises. Sure she didn’t turn Kylo and get the most ideal outcome but theres still one more movie lol. Imagine if instead of losing his hand and Solo being captured, Luke killed sidious at the end of empire strikes back. She also did get Luke’s faith at the end of the movie, with the help of Yoda.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 08:35 PM
2

Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 08:21 PM
1

When I was a virgin I was more excited about sex then I am now actually, no way I would have passed up an opportunity to make love to the right woman. Nowadays it would be if I feel like it or not, sex is nbd. This has nothing to do with virginity and everything to do with libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 04:20 PM
1

What % of western men don’t give oral in 2018? I’ve always assumed it was pretty par for the course, but some comments here indicate otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 03:44 PM
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It just doesn't really bother me that much that Rey has an extremely powerful connection to the force. That’s fair, being a “mary sue” is subjective after all. My point was mainly that it’s not contridictory to believe Rey is a mary sue but Luke isn’t. Luke didn’t have nearly the same natural talent for using the force, and Rey isn’t limited by Lukes whiny, fearful personality. More upside + less downside = more mary sue. it's not a coincidence that so many of the people calling her a Mary Sue a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 03:59 AM
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"Mary Sue" means that a character is incredibly skilled with no real explanation as to why. Not really, you can have explanations but it’s still a mary sue if you don’t include draw backs or character flaws. Like Anakin’s marty stu like force ability was explained by being “the chosen one” but it’s still bs. It just means a character with way too many desireable traits relative to undeseriable ones, or being “too perfect”. Rey is introduced in a montage that shows her surviving on her own on a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 02:56 AM
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Why is Rey a Mary Sue but Luke is not? Luke is reckless, makes mistakes that have consequences and constantly depends on others. Oh and he needed training to use the force lol. Also the way she is in control of the force/her destiny is ridiculous, here is a good comment on that from a different sub, she has a lot more agency then luke ever did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:47 AM
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Finally, Luke fails at something and he isn’t prepared for it at all and it makes him jaded. He already did fail though, wasn’t that was the whole point to the second half of Empire Strikes Back? Yoda told him not to go face Vader, he didn’t listen and lost. He was always overly emotional and reckless, thats why the TLJ protrayal of him was so good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:06 AM
1

Actually yeah that's the most accurate way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:30 PM
1

Didn't neanderthals cross breed with European humans? Wouldn't that make them our ancestors?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:23 PM
2

Because moral women aren't going to have casual sex. Why? Or do you view the act itself as immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:07 PM
1

He might be referring to the lack of intimacy more than the orgasm itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:24 AM
7

Trollx has 308,856 to be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 12:55 AM
5

Thats the spirit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 12:53 AM
1

that the issue is cultural rather than neurological. Are we sure it's an issue at all? I always thought more women were in college because men preferred working with their hands more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 08:49 PM
1

Have you tried other apps? I heard cmb is pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 01:49 AM
3

I'll take your word for it, but as a low quality male myself who knows a lot of other low quality men I'm honestly surprised there are enough high quality males to meet the demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 08:45 PM
3

Considering the true abundance that women have, this is very likely. I'm not a woman, but as I understand it women have an abundance of low quality men. It can be difficult to find a man who is high quality, especially if you intend to get into an LTR since most high quality LTR oriented men are taken early and are selective when they're single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 08:03 PM
1

Deep relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 12:47 AM
2

Changing your personality will likely be more difficult then finding love as you are. Trust me, just make sure you put yourself out there a bit by keeping friends, going to bars or other social venues, and maybe even try dating apps and you'll find it sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:12 PM
1

A lot of omega traits also negatively impact relationships with friends as well. Count how many friends you have, and how often you see them. Low numbers could mean you're omega postive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:00 PM
2

I live vicariously through your anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:52 PM
7

Being a virgin or not is no big deal to the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:07 PM
1

That’s great to hear, I hope 2018 brings you all the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:20 PM
2

Because life is bleak and pretending otherwise only hurts me more in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:34 AM
1

Is it fake?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:48 AM
1

I don’t have friends. no one likes me, I don’t even like me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 08:41 AM
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Because you made a typo, he was just havin a laugh mate
/r/MensRights28/12/17 11:03 PM
2

To be fair, a good % of shit posted on here is dumb af
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 01:20 AM
1

Unfortunately, that’s the best you can really do for these kinds of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:51 PM
1

you should do a tinder experiment, I hear they’re all the rage these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:42 PM
0

People are socialized to dislike the idea of polygyny from a young age, I doubt anyone here would say they'd be into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:05 PM
1

Actually did more research and you're right, it's only considered sexual assault when a man does it to a woman. The reason is that there's a "serious risk of bodily harm" due to pregnancy. From the article I linked (I only skimmed it when I linked it before): Someone lying about their age or their social status or where they worked, on that basis being able to convince someone to have sex with them, that is not enough to be convicted of sexual assault. There has to be the second component, not j…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:29 AM
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It’s not rape, and it’s not “rape by deception” in states that even have that I didn’t mean to imply that it was currently a thing, I just meant to suggest it as a change. You’re right, I did some research and it's only sexual assault when a man does it to a women because the risk of pregnance being a “risk of bodily harm” (where I live anyway). Theres no way you can consider the reverse sexual assault without including every lie ever told to get laid lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 06:03 AM
1

Of course there’s individual variability, thats trivial
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 05:27 AM
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Yea I didn't mean to say we already had those laws. The other thing I mentioned (rape victims being excluded from child support payments) isn't a thing either. I meant to put those changes forward as a possible alternative to the OP. It's never going to extend that far into vague territory It's already been ruled sexual assault in some places to tamper with birthcontrol, using the same "deception" argument. So, I wouldn't say "never". That said I agree with what your saying about laws like this …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 09:42 PM
1

Honestly you're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 08:37 PM
2

Rape by deception is not a thing. It is a thing but does not extend to what we're talking about. There have been cases whereby someone has lied about their gender and has argued rape by deception, for example. Some feminists argue it should be expanded to include things like slipping off a condom, but as I said it has it's limitations. I'm not a law maker, I do not claim to have a solution to the slippery slope of "all lies are rape". You know that birth control pills aren't a 100% thing, right?…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 08:36 PM
1

Good "rape by deception" laws against lying about birth control and an exception to child support laws allowing rape victims off the hook might be a reasonable solution then, no? Of course the rape by deception thing might be a slipper slope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 08:12 PM
1

What if they are raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 07:26 PM
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I know it was the easiest point in my life to find women attracted to me when I was that age Based on your comment about the biological clock pressuring women, wouldn't you agree it's more accurate to say "I know it was the easiest point in my life to find women who would settle for me"? I think that's an important distinction, these women are not by any means attracted to you. If they were, they would have been attracted to you in your "prime" which you describe as mid-to-late twenties. In my o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 06:48 PM
4

Roastie is a person who has a vagina that resembles roast beef, it means the same thing as “slut”. Basically an insult playing off the myth that labia size is related to sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 04:47 AM
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IMO the real blackpill is that personality is largely unchangeable yet affects your ability to attract women and your capacity to change your appearance (which has a bigger affect on attacting partners). Born with/raised to have a trash personality? Your fucked, probably better for everyone if you avoid intimate relationships tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 04:44 AM
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Or she’ll go out and find someone who doesn’t enforce such boundaries. High value women know their worth, they’d be stupid not to leverage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 07:54 PM
1

Most women would ask what an incel even is, it's not as big as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 09:22 PM
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She won't throw herself into your arms because you're disrespectful, but she will throw herself into your arms despite you being disrespectful if you're already attractive for other reasons. That's all u/notworthmuch20xx meant I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 07:45 PM
2

I mean, tinder is a hook up app. Does it really matter if he's an idiot if the dick is good?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:19 PM
1

Nothing you can't get better, more easily, elsewhere. I'm quite young and working on it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 09:39 PM
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Ugly dudes get laid all the time though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 05:04 PM
1

Yup, and the inverse is also true. It's hard to find someone whose worth a damn who doesn't take care of themselves. The true blackpill is that laziness leads to ugliness which leads to insecurity and negativity which leads to more laziness to cope. Never date ugly people, even if you find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:36 PM
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You should go for more conventionally attractive guys, from what you've said in other comments you could probably pull one. You might have better luck with them, they don't have the same hangups as us ugly guys. Typically more confident, more likely to be successful, less negative in general, more experienced and honestly a lot of times more mature. The sad truth is that there is a correlation between ugly appearance and shitty personality, especially with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 02:03 AM
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I mean, people literally post pictures of attractive dudes with swastika tattoos and get tons of messages. Why is this even an argument though? Both men and women decide who they want to talk (for romantic reasons) based on appearance. How would you know someone's personality BEFORE you decide to talk to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 03:47 PM
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Do you believe in love? Is the plan to have a long term arrangement? Do you ever feel like this is your only chance at love/family based on your history of romantic failure? If so, does that impact your relationship (i.e. Being more agreeable to try not to blow your shot). Sorry if any of that's too personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 01:20 PM
1

I'm curious, do you think it's "alpha" to take shit from other people? or would an alpha just ignore you because he's scared to look "weak" on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 03:14 PM
2

How often does your mother spin them though?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:32 PM
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If you are perfectly content being an ungroomed selfish manipulator, then be yourself is still the best advice, because you aren't going to change that if you are happy that way and getting into a relationship on false pretenses is a recipe for disaster. I guess your right. Some people can’t change if there’s no strong enough motivation. A relationship under false pretenses is doomed to fail, so its best to just be yourself and let it go. Or take the easy way out. Thanks for the input, I didn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 06:07 AM
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How ugly, in your opinion, does a guy need to be to disgust 80% of the female population? Asking for a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:25 PM
1

Are you lifting Yes but only started recently unfortunately. dressing well no but I figure I’ll worry about that when I near my goal weight (pretty lanky now) and finish school so I have some cash. smelling good yes hygeine is the easy part.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:08 PM
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Too many romantic movies as a kid I think. I swear those things should be banned for below average looking boys. I’m in the mindset where nothing’s worth it if I don’t have someone romantic to share it with. I fell for the “family” meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:25 PM
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This, I’m a 21 year old below average male and see my looksmatches doing just fine on tinder. I just gotta keep telling myself that sloppy seconds isn’t that bad and partner count doesn’t mean anything, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:50 PM
3

Is this true for the 20-30 age group? Seems like everyone is at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:00 PM
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Good point, you’re probably right they would not be the intended recipient of this advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:41 PM
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At what point are you no longer “being yourself” though? If improving yourself means changing your personality, physical appearance and intrests then what use is the advice “be yourself”? Do you mean simply exist as the same person? You speak about how you dated an overweight person, so do you just mean “stay physically the same” when you say “be yourself”? What about people who are grotesquely over/under weight and have other physical features such as pectus excavatum or severe facial burns as …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:35 PM
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I find it absolutely insane how many upvotes it’s getting. Shows how easy so many peoplle have it, where they can just exist for a long enough period of time and meet someone. I just feel sorry for the young man who’ll eat it up and end up being alone until he’s in his 30s and finds out he needed to change all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 04:54 PM
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Women assume the objective of a man trying to be attractive is to find "the one" because these are her objectives. She is not conceptualizing that the man wants to fuck many chicks who are hot as possible. Don't know why I didn't consider that, but its a good point. "Being yourself" doesn't matter at all in casual sex encounters, just serious long term relationships where you can't hide who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:32 AM
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Just phrase your insults as a joke next time and get over it dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:47 PM
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