Petticoat_Rule Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
15	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge?		Petticoat_Rule	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 08:06 PM
7	Are women more identical to each other than men are (in AWALT terms, not in looks) because they have two X chromosomes rather than XY?	Question for RedPill	Petticoat_Rule	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 10:27 PM
4	BP: You disappoint. Where is the cutesy terminology?		Petticoat_Rule	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 01:30 PM
3	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting?		Petticoat_Rule	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 01:14 AM
3	What is femininity?		Petticoat_Rule	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 09:10 PM
3	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ...		Petticoat_Rule	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 10:15 PM
2	Women started civilization. Thoughts?	CMV	Petticoat_Rule	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 10:40 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
4	Help me understand the prevalence of emotional abuse in women If a husband tells a wife not to eat a slice of cake because she'll get fat, it's not abuse. If a husband tells the wife to suck his dick because he wants to be sexually satisfied, it's not abuse. If a husband tells his wife to vacuum the room because it needs cleaning, it's not abuse. If the husband and wife have a relationship in which these things are allowed to be said in this manner, no problem. Maybe she tells him to do things to and for her, too. "Take the garbage out" "Go down on on me n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/15 02:50 AM
2	What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances? Pointless going further into this. The other study showed that the study you linked to as being the ultimate study by an expert was proved in the very same article not to be. You'll put your money on the study that more closely aligns with your personal beliefs, just like everybody else. You get the door prize.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 10:50 PM
1	What is a woman's SMV? Hell, even wikipedia shows that women mostly marry older men. That shows the biggest group of women marry men their age and over 50% marry men within 3 years of their age (which is still their age). The rest is spread out between women marrying older and men marrying older.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 10:47 PM
3	If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)? Women are at their most attractive when they are young, otherwise known as highest "Sexual Market Value" or SMV for short. Men are at their most attractive when they are young, otherwise known as highest "Sexual Market Value" or SMV for short. The following piece of 'advice' sounds like trpers wet dream of a man. You're seeing men through men's eyes, not women's: A mans value in the sexual market place is not determined by his youth and beauty, but rather by his ability to provide, lead, and gar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 10:40 PM
4	If women should live their lives based on what will most likely happen (the wall, etc) then why should men hope for/rely on the best-case scenario (Hugh Hefner, etc)? TRP is not about telling women what they should do. TRP is about accurately describing what women actually do, and what they are actually attracted to. I've read a lot of trp. I see men saying all the time that they need to get women back to the way women used to be, and that women should be acting true 'to their natures'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 10:31 PM
1	What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances? I'd put my money on the one conducted across 7 countries instead of just one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 10:26 PM
3	What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances? It already happened. They can't change what happened in Rotherham.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 10:25 PM
1	What is a woman's SMV? Most statistics show that women will gladly date much older men. lolz, they surveyed female members of sugababy.com This biological programming predates "money". Money means power, resources and protection. We still have that power... Nobody wants women whom earn their own money because they're unattractive. Yet, in NY city, men are marrying such women in droves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 10:24 PM
6	Help me understand the prevalence of emotional abuse in women How could a woman let herself be treated like that? It infuriates me and I just want to tell her to "man the fuck" up and get out of the relationship. I understand your feelings on this, and I feel enormous exasperation when I hear about this stuff. The only light that I can shed is personal experience of women I've known - these women are red pill type of women. They feel a need for the captain/first mate relationship and will stay and take shit because they feel rudderless without a man steeri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 09:56 PM
1	What is a woman's SMV? men age like wine, women age like milk That is a very old saying we don't hear anymore. It was only ever just a wry comment on men having more power in choosing marriage partners as they made the money. Traditionally (and biologically), women prefer men older than themselves in the first place. Women used to only because they had no way of making money for themselves. It's becoming less and less true. And marriage stats don't bear out that women prefer older men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 09:42 PM
4	What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances? Your reasoning is sound. Most people conduct themselves according to what life taught them. I'm referring to things presented as general scientific evidence, not personal evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 09:38 PM
5	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? This is what women whom are too unattractive/too old to attain a rich man to pay the bills say That's what women with a sex drive say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 09:34 PM
5	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? I'm Western, that's true. I don't care about SMV, that's also true. There you go.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 09:33 PM
1	What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances? This is nothing about the muslim cultural issues in your examples. Why would feminists be trying to raise awareness of the horror that happened in Rotherham when it was all over mainstream news and being actively investigated? I don't know if there were trial by media concerns (lawyers for the accused men claiming racial vilification in the media would affect jurors' views.) Feminist weren't responsible for Rotherham. It would actually be effective if John Durant examined rape culture instead of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 09:30 PM
0	What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances? That study said that couples got divorced when men did more domestic duties - which points to unhappiness. Other studies contradict the findings in terms of happiness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 08:46 PM
1	What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances? Feminists in general didn't know about Rotherham when it was happening. A group of people were in authority - the town council and the police (mostly men) and they didn't believe the shocking findings of a small group of youth workers (mostly women). The council and police viewed the children as young sluts and nothing more. (Yet another example of how the concept of the word 'slut' damages) Gamergate and jennifer lawrence had wide media coverage mostly because men cared about these 'issues'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 08:43 PM
1	What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances? There is almost next to no noise made by Western feminists about the unfairness of Muslim countries to women. Since feminism is all about equality, does that mean that Muslim countries treat women better than Western countries? Wha-a-t???	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 08:02 PM
2	What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances? How 'bout a quote from the article you linked to: The survey appeared to contradict another recent one across seven countries including Britain that found that men who shouldered a bigger share of domestic responsibilities had a better sense of wellbeing and enjoyed a better work-life balance. Just about any polls or surveys about people can be challenged or have different results elsewhere. That's why there's rarely a 'biotruth' to be found in those kinds of things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 07:57 PM
6	What are the biggest flaws in reasoning you have noticed on either side (or both) when they conclude that the evidence supports their stances? Anecdotes. Pseudoscience. My buddies will back me up, so I don't have to give a solid argument. Too many of one particular group here. "We don't need real evidence when we have each other!"	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 12:26 PM
1	[CMV] BP obsesses over RP's N count view because they know they are damaged goods so, I shouldn't call someone a slut because some bogeyman will think that sluts are always down to fuck? that makes no sense. Anyway, the whole point of sluts (in RP-land) is that they aren't really suitable for a long term thing. It's up to you what you call people. If someone raped your sister/mother/girlfriend and then called them a slut, and then your sister/mother/girlfriend didn't report the rape because she didn't want to cope with people thinking she might be a slut - then you might begi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 12:18 PM
1	[CMV] BP obsesses over RP's N count view because they know they are damaged goods Because you have no reply. People who want the right to say whatever they want to whomever they want strangely don't want to exercise that right when it could cause them harm. They no longer want to 'toughen the fuck up' and instead turn tail. Take your PC language policing and shove it up your ass, faggot. I have never had anything shoved up my ass thanks very much and I'm not about to start on your say so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 12:10 PM
1	Existence of the Alpha Male I agree with your summary of Ghandi. So, one rper said Ghandi was a bad example. You're saying he's a great example but he's dominant. Ghandi was not dominant in the least. The fact that he achieved all he did without violence or domination is the whole point of Ghandi.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 12:04 PM
4	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? Who wants a successful man? I want hot and sexy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 12:02 PM
7	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? So, I'm a fat Western slut with very low SMV who dates neutered, loser men. Is that what you pull out when you're losing a discussion?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 12:01 PM
1	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? Perhaps, you feminists should spend some of that taxpayer-stolen money on actual issues such as this one. A I haven't stolen any money, thanks very much. Also, the operation isn't "more difficult" in later years, you idiot. EVERY operation is significantly more dangerous in earlier years. Do you like calling people idiots? When did this affliction start? Men state the operation is difficult as an adult because of erections pulling on stitches over the following weeks. I'm only going by that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 11:57 AM
1	What is a woman's SMV? It's not just feminists who think that, buddy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 11:39 AM
1	The Class Room with AFC [BP Edition]: Correct usage of the word "entitlement". Ah dammit :D	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 11:37 AM
0	The Class Room with AFC [BP Edition]: Correct usage of the word "entitlement". The nice guy who's cool, and has done his best to follow mainstream female dating advice have every right to be displeased at his expectations not being met by women who chose one night stands bwahahaha you mean, 'done his best to follow dating advice he got from watching b-grade hollywood movies where the nice guy always gets the beautiful girl'. That's a non-sequitur. My argument is sound. Doesn't matter if he has expectations or not. If he doesn't get angry at women but instead changes either…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 11:37 AM
1	The Class Room with AFC [BP Edition]: Correct usage of the word "entitlement". .	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 11:31 AM
1	CMV Just be yourself is great advice for finding a great relationship, shitty advice for getting laid. Depending on how condescending, adversarial or just plain misantropic a person is, speaking one's mind can be detrimental. I had a girl at school who was such a "I am sooo outspoken"-type to the point of obnoxiousness. Very very few people liked her. Regardless of whether it's being transparent about your opinion on certain people, your love life or whatever, there is indeed such a thing as oversharing. Humans didn't start lying for no reason. Agree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 11:10 AM
6	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? A woman's value goes SIGNIFICANTLY down after 30 No it doesn't. Just because you say it doesn't make it true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 12:06 AM
4	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? TRPers always quote male movie stars as though they're the norm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 12:05 AM
7	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? So is Down syndrome - 50% due to older men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 12:03 AM
2	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? I think you and your prospective brides should fully inspect each other before any marriage. If she should find you lacking in any department, better let her go dude, because hypergamy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/15 12:00 AM
1	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? The first link is a woman saying she doesn't think men staring at her is eye rape. The second is an isolated incidence. I will say there's a big difference between a man checking out a woman's cleavage and doing a big, long look up and down while licking his lips etc. The first is a man merely looking. The second is a man deliberately trying to making a woman feel threatened. Still not rape, but the second is sexual harassment. These things can also happen to men. Say you're a guy trying to get …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 11:45 PM
1	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? That might be the point of the movement, but as it stands now, women's breasts as seen as highly erotic, with shock value if seen bare in public - and men's chests can't begin to compare with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 11:39 PM
1	Has any Red Piller or anyone at all ever checked whether male partner count correlates with divorce rates. They blow hot and cold. Love the person they're with only when they're with them. Jump to the next person without much of a care for the person they left behind. Shallow personality. Lies easily. Big ego (have seen this in women who spin plates)	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 11:36 PM
1	[CMV] BP obsesses over RP's N count view because they know they are damaged goods I know it's 'MURICA. It's not about feelings. Ok, so do you head into a place frequented by motorcycle gangs and say "hey which one of you little bitches parked so close to my car I had trouble getting my lardass out?" If your answer is no, and you'd worry about offending these people, then I have zero respect for your position.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 11:31 PM
1	[CMV] BP obsesses over RP's N count view because they know they are damaged goods So a woman's life history of moving from partner to partner has not one iota of bearing on whether she will continue that pattern of behavior in the future. I didn't talk about that. A pattern of men or women constantly moving from one partner to the next can indicate instability. But ... slut-shaming, through some indirect, vague mechanism, leads to rape(s) perpetrated by other men. I didn't say it 'leads to' rape. I said it encourages rape. Same as bias against gays and calling them names enco…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 11:17 PM
1	[CMV] BP obsesses over RP's N count view because they know they are damaged goods Oh dear. She called me a bitch. And crazy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 08:32 PM
2	BPers, what do you think TRPers are like in real life? TRPers, what are you like in real life? I want to have your babies. Couldn't have put this better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 08:26 PM
12	Finding the red pill paradigm works really well as long as the woman believes it. Why settle for that? Why not get a t-shirt made and proudly declare it to all?" "I bathe in whore's tears."	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 08:22 PM
2	The Class Room with AFC [BP Edition]: Correct usage of the word "entitlement". Yes, entitled IS the right word to describe men who are bitter and angry toward women when they can't get sex from them. If a man isn't bitter and angry toward women that he can't get things from, then he doesn't feel entitled. Similarly, a woman who feels bitter and angry toward men because she can't find a good man for a LTR/marriage/to screw does that out of a feeling of entitlement. She feels entitled to such things from men. (Women in general are more likely to internalize things though and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 08:12 PM
9	Finding the red pill paradigm works really well as long as the woman believes it. Yet .... according to your post, calling her a ho isn't changing her behavior one jot. Your powers are failing miserably....	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 07:54 PM
2	CMV Just be yourself is great advice for finding a great relationship, shitty advice for getting laid. I've never though 'just be yourself' was good advice, period. When you go for a job interview, can you 'just be yourself' and ask how much money you're going to get paid? Can you sit there scoffing a cheeseburger because it's lunchtime and you're hungry? And, unless you're totally stagnant, 'who you are' is constantly in a state of flux anyway. You change, you grow, you try new things. New things change you. If you grew up with parents who told you the sun shone out of your behind, your ideas ab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 07:48 PM
6	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? I spoke about babies. So, rich men go about having babies with women willy nilly? I don't think so. Who's having sex with who is another matter entirely. And your 'work' is not a source.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 07:38 PM
14	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? You should preface with an anecdote alert. The stats don't bear out what you see. Something like 2% or less of women marry men 15+ years old than them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 08:51 AM
7	What EXACTLY makes a High SMV Woman? Is it smart to select women on SMV alone? Very few men are going to have high SMV at 45. A 30 -35 year old women doesn't want to have a 50 year old father for her babies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 06:53 AM
7	What do you guys think of this post from /r/TheRedPill: "Fuck This Place"? I just want to go back to before when I never thought about this stuff, when I was genuinely confused by the "nice guys finish last" phenomenon and the fact that my parents (cc riding mum and high income rose buyer dad) didn't seem like they should be married. I still manage to be sweet and come across like a nice guy that I want to be, but it's really hard and I don't want to have to try. I need an antidote, an anti-redpill to take me back to before. I like girls! They're just like guys in that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/15 06:38 AM
5	[CMV] BP obsesses over RP's N count view because they know they are damaged goods At least you got the end before you got lost ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 11:40 PM
2	[CMV] BP obsesses over RP's N count view because they know they are damaged goods Yes, the world/society tries to restrict everyone, not just women. TRP is like men saying "ok, we get it, these are the rules if we want to be successfully, so let's embrace it" It's true everyone is restricted in some way. That's bulldust though that trp embraces it. They are a hate factory that pumps out hate. There are very few positive things there and the things that are positive can be found elsewhere, and better. And you are being disingenuous. Feminism obviously could not work within the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 11:33 PM
8	[CMV] BP obsesses over RP's N count view because they know they are damaged goods By RP standards I'm not 'damaged goods'. So I have no horse in the race. The attitude that terms some women as 'sluts' harms ALL women. Women must either be 'good' or sluts. To be 'good' there are going to be all kinds of pressures and restrictions put on you to constantly prove your goodness (taken to ridiculous lengths in some religious cultures). Being 'good' is limiting and holds women back in all kinds of ways. It also makes rape more permissible in some men's minds ("she led me on, dirty s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 08:42 PM
0	Existence of the Alpha Male Ghandi.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 08:24 PM
2	Has any Red Piller or anyone at all ever checked whether male partner count correlates with divorce rates. Which doesn't really surprise me, to be honest. In fact, exceedingly high partner counts tend to come with problematic chracter traits which in itself are already dealbreakers. I've observed this - in men and women (am assuming you're including both). I'm not saying it's always true, just saying I've seen it a lot. Which is partly why I personally would steer clear of a man with an exceedingly high partner count.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 08:14 PM
1	Existence of the Alpha Male There is hardly a quality more universal in leaders, in some form or another. I'd agree with you on this in terms of leaders of the past (and much of the present) But you missed where i said "great". I don't consider great leaders to be dominant. Too often, people follow those people with sociopathic qualities and allow them to rise into leadership positions. We'd have a better and more just world with better leaders.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 08:09 PM
-1	Existence of the Alpha Male In the context of sexual value it is women who define which men man is "alpha" by choosing or rejecting sexual partners. Ok, then the women men choose the most must also be alphas. This likely depends on the situation, sometimes being dominant and without scruple can be necessary for a leader; sometimes people need to fight, kill and subjugate to survive. I don't consider a "great" leader to be without scruples. Sometimes people have to fight and kill that's true, but that doesn't necessarily ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 08:06 PM
2	Any Pill: Should men's SMV include fertility? We don't know what fertility procedures might have been needed for those pregnancies to occur. And, we don't know what the consequences are (in terms of defects) of men siring babies that late in life, partly because it doesn't happen all that often and partly because it's barely been studied. If we're talking fertility procedures (which we often are in the cases of much older men) then the gap is closing. Already, scientists can take a slice of a young woman's ovary and transplant it back when …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 07:57 PM
1	Are "nice guys" only nice? This is absolutely correct. Women don't date "logically." If that were true short men wouldn't suffer in the dating market. This is an excellent analysis that disproves the feminist notion that short guys aren't screwed. Few people date particularly logically. Except for people going for money. I'm a feminist and I definitely can see that short men have a much harder time. Women do in general like tall men. (Although if the guy is cute, short is fine. If he's not cute, height can compensate some…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 09:14 AM
1	Are "nice guys" only nice? TRP Men, do you think that certain "nice guys" underestimated the importance of "appearance" and "presence" and used "being nice" as the "bad guy" because it's easier to blame women than it is to "lift" or "groom" or care about style and how you look? But the assumption that cute guys are jerks to gals is really overblown and not matching up with what really happens. I'm not a trper but I agree with this. The video I'm linking to is an extreme example of a guy saying that the guys that girls go …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 09:06 AM
1	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? Then please explain why these religions all extensively restrict male sexuality as well? How do they restrict male sexuality? In terms of circumcision. Kellogg's punishment wouldn't stop boys from enjoying masturbation. I've had SOs who've been/not been circumcised and can't see a difference in their pleasure. You're presuming that women in general have no say in marriage customs and that all of these were invented entirely by the men. You're implicitly assuming that cultures in general are crea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 06:32 AM
1	Survey: Readers of PPD, what is your age, gender, and number of people you have slept with? Ah, so it turned into an open relationship. Well, good for you two :) Sounds like you found your tribe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 06:05 AM
1	Are "nice guys" only nice? Damn but your alphaness is overwhelming my hamster.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 06:03 AM
1	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? Doesn't matter the effect on women. I'm speaking of the equivalent effect upon men. Would you like seeing pictures of naked young men on Page 3. Would it interest you or would it piss you off that women's sexual interests are pushed in your face all the time? Would you like seeing your wife check those pictures out at the breakfast table and made comments about how big the guy's penis is? Would you like your sons to grow up seeing those photos and thinking of themselves as objects to be ogled an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 05:58 AM
3	A question for feminists Everything rp132 said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 05:48 AM
1	Existence of the Alpha Male 'Alpha male' seems such a ridiculous term. And i'm not putting men down in saying that because women use that term too. history is riddled with many men who share the attributes of an alpha male (dominant, composed, courageous, focused, strong ect..) History is riddled with psychopaths and sociopaths and narcissists being leaders. Is that what you call alpha? The qualities of being ruthless and without compassion are helpful when wanting to be in control. If so, then yes, they exist. These are q…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/15 05:45 AM
2	Are "nice guys" only nice? I feel like sending you photos of me. Only, I'm afraid they won't be up to your standard...	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 08:50 PM
7	Any Pill: Should men's SMV include fertility? The research into male fertility is just beginning. What we know so far is that there is a decrease in fertlity and increase in birth defects with men past age 35 and that sperm counts are dropping (possibly a 50% decrease in sperm counts over the past 10 years ) Already, clinics want sperm donations from men under 35. When this knowledge becomes mainstream, it will be included in male SMV. I don't think it's mainstream at all yet. (Have to say here I detest the SMV label for anyone but understa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 08:43 PM
3	Any Pill: Should men's SMV include fertility? You're linking a parenting website written by god knows who. And god knows how old the info is. This is info from a fertility expert. one could get the impression that the problems are almost the same when in fact, the gap is extreme. We don't know what the gap is. The fertility expert above says "we're just scratching the surface". In the past, only women were studied and not men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 08:34 PM
5	Any Pill: Should men's SMV include fertility? Just because it's hip within BP circles to operate under the far greater delusion that male and female fertility suffer a similar decline with age doesn't automatically make it true. Hey, I just answered a post of yours in another thread in which you said the pretty much the same thing to me. And I hadn't said that at all. All I'd said is that male fertility decreases quite a bit after 35.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 08:26 PM
1	What is a woman's SMV? enough women in general would go for guys a decade or more ahead of them. What is 'enough'? Females marrying men 10-14 years older form just 4.8% Within 5 years is of a similar age. Almost 70% of couples marry with the man being no more than 5 years older and the greatest number (33%) are no more than a year apart. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships) What? Unless they live a more taxing lifestyle, I don't see why they should. I see a lot of women and men around a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 08:20 PM
1	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? Even if I grant this, are the men pressuring women to do this because of religious reasons or because of a desire to control female sexuality? Because of a desire to control female sexuality. So they don't desire sex with other men and will remain faithful to their husbands. (Also a few other reasons, such as 'looking better for their husbands' but that is the main point I read of) Women do these terrible operations to girls so that the girls will be able to marry. The more education for these w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 07:51 PM
2	Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are? Thanks!	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 07:31 PM
-1	What is a woman's SMV? However, they don't depreciate as quickly as women do and they can more than compensate by building up the "100,000 other things" It's not a compensation thing. Most young women want young men who are are good looking plus have other qualities. Men depreciate much more quickly than women do in looks and when you take a woman's age/fertility into consideration (also the fact that men's fertility decreases past age 35), men and woman depreciate pretty much at the same rate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 01:51 PM
2	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? A man of my caliper wouldn't see a prostitute anyway, so such things do not bother me. What do you do with this 'caliper'? Is it a penis-measuring instrument? Is your penis too big too waste on prostitutes? I commend you, for freeing up your gigantic penis for women in general (not for the nasty whores of course).	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 01:20 PM
2	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? A shirtless man is not the equivalent to a shirtless woman in terms of shock value. You need the penis.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 01:13 PM
1	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? I would not call her "batshit insane". After reading that article, I would.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 12:58 PM
1	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? I think it's more accurate to say that feminists want to constrain male sexuality even further. "Eye rape" is a good example - while women are free to wear whatever they want, men must avert their eyes. Do you have a link to prominent feminists saying that? Both women and men look at boobs and can't help doing so. Yes, BOTH women and men, probably equally, in the case where there is bare cleavage showing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 12:56 PM
2	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? FGM, by the way, is usually done (in Africa) by women. And there's tons of MGM amongst African tribes too, which is done by men to the boys. And in Northern Africa there's the Fundamentalist Islam (which also restricts male sexuality in a myriad of ways) motivation playing into things. I'm suspicious of describing that as being driven by a desire of the sexes to control each other's sexuality per se. FGM is done by women under pressure from men. I'm not aware of MGM in Africa - do you have an ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 12:50 PM
1	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? Onto part 2.... By the same token, men want to be treated as worthy of receiving such protection, particularly if they are not strong and not capable of protecting themselves. In what way are men deemed not worthy of receiving protection? And in popular media, men are too often the victimizers, inflicting vicious cruelty upon innocent women. Very true. Am tired of this trope. And it helps set up fear of men in women's minds. The point I have been trying to make is that there is no female equival…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 12:24 PM
1	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? PART 1 of 2 Hells bells, 2 parts?! Of course there are going to be universal elements! I certainly don't contest that. But that doesn't mean the story, which was written by men, for men, and built out of facets of the male experience and cannot be fully understood independently of that experience, needs to be made "more inclusive." I think you'd agree with me that instead of simply changing traditionally-for-male stories to make them universal, a better thing to do would be to either make new un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 11:59 AM
2	What is a woman's SMV? Ok SMV is finally something I think trpers have right. Except SMV is the wrong stupid term. I'd call it KWMYH (Knowing What Makes You Happy) Men do go for: looks, looks, looks While women go for looks + 100,000 other things. And so if trpers are saying men should go for the type of woman who'll make them happy in the long run, even if it means going for someone less pretty, this is a good thing. In the case of a pretty woman, men will mold themselves to what they perceive that particular woman w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 11:39 AM
0	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? Ok understood now. What I wanted to confer is the idea that movies with a overwhelmingly female cast simply don't have that much of an audience; while those with an overwhelmingly male cast definitely do. I think you're confusing quieter/issue-based movies with an 'overwhelmingly female cast' with blockbuster action movies. But now you argue that yes, you could swap the gender ratio and sstill make blockbusters; so I ask you think of the LOTR-trilogy: probably 80-90% of the cast (regardless of w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 11:17 AM
1	Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are? What is ITT???	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 08:21 AM
1	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? Would you be happy to see sixteen year old boys with their penises showing on page 3?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 04:13 AM
1	Survey: Readers of PPD, what is your age, gender, and number of people you have slept with? Mostly for recruiting purposes, lol Do tell :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 04:12 AM
3	Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are? lololololololololozzzzz	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 04:11 AM
0	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? Chill bro. It's one movie in a sea of movies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 01:37 AM
1	How many of you identify as former "Nice Guys"? Yes. I'm a former nice guy. No longer. There's now nothing sweet about me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO_TaTblcP8	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 01:31 AM
1	Survey: Readers of PPD, what is your age, gender, and number of people you have slept with? They're swingers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 01:28 AM
0	What do you think would happen if TheRedPill had to do verification posts like GoneWild subs. It would ruin the fantasy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 11:26 PM
7	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? Put this in a post for TRP. They eat that stuff up there :D	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 11:23 PM
2	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? I'm lost. Carry on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 11:23 PM
1	Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are? True enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 11:21 PM
1	Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are? You need only to look at porn and other sex markets to see the very obvious difference. Women's bodies are just more exciting than men's. Women already have women's bodies. They don't need to look at them in porn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 11:17 PM
3	Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are? Sex mostly seems to be wanted with a certain guy after they've become invested, but in MY experience, once shes invested in you enough to have sex with you, she wants to get her fucking moneys worth. What on earth? You meet strange women. Woman's sex drive is free floating, dude - comes out of nowhere. No trigger needed. It's just there and wants to be satiated. Most days of the month, it's there. If your analysis is true, then the zillions of sex toys sold to women are actually being used as ne…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 11:15 PM
2	Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are? Testosterone is not the be-all when it comes to sexual desire. Women can have raging sex drives and men have low sex drives, even though the man has 'moar testosterone'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 11:10 PM
1	Do you think women are as interested in sex as men are? Agree that they settle less often. No such thing as perfect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 11:06 PM
9	Do women want to control male sexuality? If so, is it justified for men to control female sexuality? I didn't know about the page 3 thing, but that's hardly an attempt to control male sexuality. Those newspapers are seen by EVERYONE. Lots of men don't want to see half-naked sixteen year old girls in their newspaper either, esp. if they have their teenage daughters sitting across from them at the breakfast table. I could find nothing intelligent in the linked article.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 11:05 PM
2	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? Yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 10:56 PM
3	What are your thoughts on this TwoX post? I don't personally think the red pill could change a man that much. He'd have to already be that way, deep down underneath. I've shown my SO lots of red pill stuff. We're often on our respective computers in bed before we go to sleep. He just shakes his head. It hasn't changed him at all. But the boyfriend (if the account is true) sounds like an asshole and she's better off away from him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 10:51 PM
1	Bluepills, how would you explain the "where have all the good men gone" trope? And what do women mean when they say "I feel like he's using me for sex" or "Men are just afraid of commitment"? American Pie is a movie. In real life, men get hurt. You only don't mind being 'used for sex' when it's with someone you don't want a relationship with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 10:40 PM
1	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? Yes. Apparently it's now going to be a slimer vagina.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 10:38 PM
1	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? They aren't interested in seeing that many women either. Yes they are. It just hasn't been presented to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 10:37 PM
4	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? Joanne K. Rowling wrote her book way back when publishers generally only accepted 'boys as heroes' books. Girls will watch 'boy movies' and relate to the hero. Boys refuse to watch 'girl movies'. But it's changing. All-female action movies don't currently seem realistic because most soldiers/detectives/warriors of the past were men. But that's changing too (except for the past of course). Men watched the Hunger Games in droves. But you could definitely have all-female movies such as Ghostbusters…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 10:36 PM
2	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? This means males live in a constant state of Precarious Manhood This is something I realized on my own a very long time ago. Men constantly have to prove their manhood. And I notice small things all the time, just as the increase in voice depth when a man talks to another man (when they were talking to a woman/women just prior). I understand what you mean about spiderman/thor etc and I understood what you meant the first time. But on another level, when you're talking about unrealistic superhero…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 10:28 PM
1	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? Agree. If they try to make the women into men, it'd stink. But I don't think they'll do that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 08:02 PM
1	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? I'd agree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 07:59 PM
1	Bluepills, how would you explain the "where have all the good men gone" trope? And what do women mean when they say "I feel like he's using me for sex" or "Men are just afraid of commitment"? I can't speak for everybody here, but I can think of worse things than being used for sex as a man - while women as a whole seem to be a lot less inclined to think dm,hs. I don't know if you are partnered or not, but if not, if you met the girl of your dreams and fell deeply in love and thought you'd marry her - and then found out she was using you to sleep with until she found someone better, are you saying you'd just shrug it off? I've known men this has happened to - one was suicidal when he …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 07:58 PM
2	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? The point I am making is that the production and creation of stories and narratives by, for and about women and their experiences should not be done by forcing this material into stories and narratives by, for and about men and their experiences. Yes, and I'm saying that the woman-as-hero or woman-in-thriller-story is a woman story. Thor and spiderman are not really about men and their experiences - they're about people and their universal secret desire to be powerful, to be able to protect othe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 10:12 AM
1	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? They were originally books, not films. And if you haven't seen or read them, how do you know you don't relate to them? I know about the books and movies and story outlines. In the industry I work in, I know about a lot of that kind of thing. The solution to this problem is for women like yourself to make more media which does reflect you and your life experiences, rather than demand that someone else's media change for you. I write stories about characters I relate to. You can do the same. Uh, w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 06:00 AM
5	If you like the Ghostbusters movies, are you disappointed with the all-female casting of the new Ghostbusters movie? Is feminism to blame for the casting? By the same token, there are stories by women, about women's experiences, intended for women, which males would not be able to easily relate to. Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants and Joy Luck Club and that kind of stuff (including acclaimed works like those of Canadian-American author Carol Shields) are, you know, about women. I don't relate to those films, nor have I seen them. What I'm tired of in films is women seen through male eyes. I don't see myself. Women like to be heroes too and not j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 04:45 AM
13	CMV dragging along friendzoned guys is just emotional plate-spinning. Unanswerable as you didn't set up any scenarios. A man can plate-spin willing women who are also plate-spinning. A woman can have orbiters she doesn't want and can't get rid of (and is too polite to tell them to eff off). Or, she genuinely thinks they are her friends and doesn't realize they want more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/15 12:08 AM
2	Bluepills, how would you explain the "where have all the good men gone" trope? And what do women mean when they say "I feel like he's using me for sex" or "Men are just afraid of commitment"? "guys are just afraid of commitment" You have red pill men complaining that women won't won't commit to them. But no one is writing very public articles about these men. In your first article, this is stated: In New York, says publisher Sarah Giles, success is not so much a problem. "Men here like powerful women. It's a turn-on. But back in Britain I know it's not the case." So that's explains the UK in 1997 (the date of that article). Things have probably improved by now. It's true that men who…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 11:53 PM
6	Red Pill Men interested in marriage: hypothetically, would you sleep with a woman who was an amazing unicorn in every way other than wanting a relationship with you (or being chaste)? The word slut was made to refer to promiscuous women, calling a man a slut doesn't even make sense. Language evolves. Slut = promiscuous. Therefore, men can be sluts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 11:24 PM
8	Red Pill Men interested in marriage: hypothetically, would you sleep with a woman who was an amazing unicorn in every way other than wanting a relationship with you (or being chaste)? why does a man with a high N count as a stud. Only in other men's eyes, not in women's eyes (except maybe for very wild lasses)	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 11:22 PM
2	Red Pill Men interested in marriage: hypothetically, would you sleep with a woman who was an amazing unicorn in every way other than wanting a relationship with you (or being chaste)? The fact that it is viewed as a negative for women by future prospective boyfriends and husbands whereas it is viewed as a positive for men by future prospective girlfriends and wives. lolz	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 11:21 PM
2	If women are children, how can they consent? lol :) So, red pill = imitation assholes (who are actual assholes for all intents and purposes)	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 11:07 PM
0	CMV: Lower SMV Men have nothing to gain from feminism However, OP has good a good point in that feminism has given birth to a subset of itself that aggressively and subversively enforces and reinforces traditional male gender roles, putting low SMV males who can't or won't conform in a tight spot. How does it do that? Feminism has wanted more choices for men -to spend more time with their children or whatever they choose and not to be stuck in a provider role working long hours until they die.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 11:05 PM
1	CMV: Lower SMV Men have nothing to gain from feminism For the same reason they no longer diagnose women with high libidos with hysteria, I sincerely doubt they'd be lopping my balls. Medical science has developed beyond that point. I meant in retrospect - if women had been doctors from the start. But with regards to merits, it comes down to how you perform as a doctor depends on how well can diagnose/treat a disease and your ability to interact with your patients. Nothing else matters. If you can do those two things, you can be a good doctor. And f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 09:56 PM
2	CMV: Lower SMV Men have nothing to gain from feminism Yes, but what are merits? In the case of doctors, the ability to remember things and do well in tests? There is more to merits than that. Doctors of the past (all male) used to believe that women with high libidos were suffering from hysteria. Uteruses/ovaries were seen as useless after a woman finishes having her last child. A man can't know what it's like to be an operator of a female body. Similarly, a woman can't know what it's like to be an operator of a male body. I don't believe it could …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 10:45 AM
0	CMV: Lower SMV Men have nothing to gain from feminism Personally, someone on the operating table couldn't give a shit if their surgeon is male or female. They just want them to be good and do a good job. Female doctors are essential. If all doctors were women, men would most probably suffer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 09:34 AM
1	CMV: Lower SMV Men have nothing to gain from feminism TRpers can't seem to get this point. Before feminism (and before the pill), many men weren't getting laid either. If they didn't get married, they didn't get sex. And if they got married, they might have had duty sex from their wives or very little sex (the wife didn't realize her husband would want so much sex and she's also depressed out of her skull from the monotony of chores and children.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 09:32 AM
11	If women are children, how can they consent? RP sexual strategy is amoral. That's how they get around any conflicts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 09:25 AM
1	RPW I want to hear you defend RP Men With Christian male headship, at least you have a buffer - men are taught that they should love/treat their wife better than they love/treat themselves. (Not that many wouldn't take advantage of their role as head of the family and treat their wives badly) But red pill provides no such buffer. Red pill provides only dread and game and ego. Many of the RPW seem to be STEM or INTJ type of women married to gentler types of men. Red pill might work out fine for them. I don't see it as working out we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 09:20 AM
1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Not at the level required for cooperative hunting. You make my brain hurt. I didn't say lions use verbal communication when hunting. I said they are deadly QUIET. You can also just wear down one animal chasing it until it collapses, which works well, it just takes a while and it takes a lot of energy, but even in this case, yelling to someone else is a huge help. There's evidence they hunted one animal to collapse. I don't have those articles at hand. Here's how Aust. Aborigines hunted, observed…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 09:05 AM
3	Would you support a law that made false rape accusations with malicious intent, punishable? It's not logic, it's a thought, a question - adding to the discussion. Doesn't sound as though you noted me saying I'm out of my depth with this discussion. I don't know enough of the overall picture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 08:25 AM
1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Lions aren't capable of vocal communication. What the? Of course they are. You can shout something like "drive them left" and your fellow hunters will know how to better hunt in a group. They weren't herding. They were running down a single animal. They probably did both, but generally hunters would not be in an effective distance for hand signals while driving the animals towards the trap. Cave men probably used this form of group hunting rather than stalking their prey because we're just not a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 05:29 AM
1	RPW I want to hear you defend RP Men I see it as bad because of the misogynistic teaching of red pill, that's why.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 05:22 AM
1	Would you support a law that made false rape accusations with malicious intent, punishable? That's such a difficult one. If a man/woman was trying to frame someone for a rape that didn't happen, that does seem like a criminal act. I'd want there to be consequences. That's a devastating thing to do to someone. But on the other hand, what if he/she wouldn't admit the truth because he'd/she'd be thrown in jail? The accused person doesn't win and gets to spend years in jail when they are innocent. I'm all for the innocent person not doing jail time. I feel as though I'm out of my depth on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/15 02:30 AM
5	Is there such a thing as WGTOW? Good on her. What a great mother.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 11:58 PM
2	TRP says that aloofness and holding frame fosters attraction in women. So why don't women find the fact that Christian Grey is a needy crybaby repulsive? So, there are two contradictory and yet co-existing beliefs that you can find on TRP. In one hand, there's the belief that women want a man who holds frame all the time, so it's hard to be a man because "men can't ever relax". On the other hand, there's the belief that women want to be a man's confidante, they want to see a man's vulnerabilities and heal him (like Ana does with Christian). Probably stronger women who are confident in themselves are fine with men showing a vulnerable side. I have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 11:53 PM
6	I know rapists gonna rape, but this is annoying, why!? How revolting. Scum-of-the-earth men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 11:43 PM
0	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Senior women age 50 and older control net worth of $19 trillion and own more than three-fourths of the nation’s financial wealth I'd say that women over 50 have more because that's a very broad group if we're talking age 50-100. Men die earlier and the women are left with the assets. And that probably describes the women that are over 70 mostly as most men die over age 70. Women over 70 are probably not doing a lot of 'moving and shaking'. they're probably mostly at a very mellow stage of life. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 11:35 PM
1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? She had an issue with the proofreading and a few other things. But who is she, exactly? Someone who once studied anthropology but became a proofreader instead by the sound of it. Scientific texts are up for debate though, of course. This describes the authors of the book: The authors are archaeologists J.M. Adovasio, the founder and director of the Mercyhurst Archaeological Institute; Olga Soffer, a professor of anthropology at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign; and Jake Page, a fre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 11:24 PM
1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Of course, my mistake - lions roar to each other when they're about to pounce in a group on a deer they're tracking, don't they? They don't sneak up by stealth by any chance? And cave guys used to yell to each other across the land when tracking animals, right? No use of hand signals. Carry on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 11:15 PM
1	RPW I want to hear you defend RP Men They don't need red pill to have a better marriage. They could call it something else. It's exactly the same as what the Christians call male headship. I'm not religious myself, but why follow the teachings of a group of pick-up-artists? Seems really, really odd.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 11:12 PM
0	Women started civilization. Thoughts? This is nothing negative about men, but because women had more to do with children, they would have been more aware of their needs and would have wanted to create healthier spaces for them. Women are more in tune with beauty and nice environments for people to live in. Men don't see that as much. Disease has been rampant throughout all crowded societies throughout history. The relentless build-build-build without consequence or thought just kept on going. The 60s were a time of progressive think…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 11:09 PM
2	CMV: Lower SMV Men have nothing to gain from feminism Can I ask a question? What do low SMV men want? Do they want to get married? If they want to get married, here's the thing: You cannot (repeat: cannot) argue that 80% of women are marrying the top 20% of men. Now, it still won't work out that there is a match for everyone. Some people choose not to marry or have a SO etc. Some people are gay. Some men and women will hold out for someone better and then marry a divorcee later on. And for a rare few, no one will marry them. But in general, most pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 10:59 PM
3	CMV Women Want Hyper-Masculine Men Not Dweebs Dude, do you not know that a woman's body/face is not her brain? Some women are nerdy, some like gaming, some like science, some love musicians (lots of skinny men there (and pale if they're white guys) ) Why does a nerdy man have to be unattractive? Why does a muscular jock have to be unattractive. Often it's the complete opposite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 10:51 PM
5	Blue Pill what is your response to this video on male distaste of female promiscuity? What do I think? He's so red he's the discarded blood that flows from me each month.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 10:47 PM
-1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Awwww here's a banana.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 09:55 AM
-1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Trend analysis and the biological imperatives in men to invent. Literally, the oldest inventions known to mankind are primarily invented by man. No evidence. Your argument holds no water. Never said they were, but were "men" like me. Please allow me to repeat what I stated to another user on this topic: Feminists need to read the defintions of words like "tend" and "majority". I can't discern a point here. Once again, never said they were. 99% of men did not make innovations, but close to 99% of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 09:55 AM
-1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Calling "bringing home meat" important after crediting women with inventing civilization smells of disingenuousness. I'm sure you'd be satisfied by the narrative that "men built civilization, created empires, and used their superior intelligence to create all the world's technologies, but women did housework and raised children and that's important, too, I guess". [/s] Yes, it was disingenuous and tacked on. Just through lack of time, really. I was posting about women's contributions and didn't …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 09:35 AM
1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Thanks for your reply - appreciated. It means that men and women have similar levels of ability to shape society to suit their vision. I can't agree with this one. I think the people with the most bargaining power/shaping power are the ones who already have power and who have the most money. From there, people who bring in the highest wages have the most say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 09:29 AM
0	Women started civilization. Thoughts? As long as you start with the book mentioned in my sources and try again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 09:27 AM
1	With the male birth control pill almost upon us, how will this change the sexual marketplace? Why does the time frame matter? I'm totally out of my depth in relation to something that happened back in 1974. I don't have any context for it, when there's only one account of what happened, "Constantly pregnant"? How about not slutting themselves around and actually responsibly choosing whom they decide to be intimate with? Seemed to work pretty well the last... few millenniums. RP have sluts on the brain. MARRIED women used to have MARRIED sex with their HUSBANDS and have broods of up to th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 09:25 AM
0	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Men sustained women during the early game when the tribe was vulnerable to rushes by sabretooths. Most probably true. I mean, a woman scattering some seeds around and shit is good and all, but when it's an actual farm requiring back breaking labor and she's pregnant 9 months out of 12... you do the math lolz. Oh no ... don't go there. Women produce up to 60% of the world's food and in some places, up to 80%. They work pregnant or with babies, with the babies on their backs. Do land, seeds and cr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 09:19 AM
0	A bit confused about generalisations about female attraction Maybe women over 40 go for Brad Pitt. In general, there are patterns, but still wide variations in those patterns.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 09:10 AM
-1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? The vast majority of "prehistory" innovations were also predominately invented by men. How exactly is it even possible to even cite a source for that? But you stated it as fact. How do you know that prehistory innovations were invented by men? There are very few female Thomas Edisons, Nikola Tesla's, Henry Ford's, Isaac Newton's, etc in history. Yep but those men were not you or men like you. They weren't like 99% of men. More men have a genius level intelligence than women plus the ability to s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 06:08 AM
4	RPW I want to hear you defend RP Men Because RPW call themselves red pill, obviously. There must therefore be shared theory. Much relates to all women and to relationships. I think that much should be clear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 05:47 AM
1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? It's shaky. But I keep seeing RP state that men created civilization and women were merely silent backdrops. To me, the most feasible start of civilization is exactly what I stated. It makes sense. Most of our prior knowledge was collected by men and filtered through male eyes. Such as if tools were found, they must have been made by men. Female scientists and progressive male scientists are re-examining the evidence (as in the sources I gave).	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 05:43 AM
-1	RPW I want to hear you defend RP Men Such as Japanese elder porn?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 05:30 AM
0	A bit confused about generalisations about female attraction Women are hugely different to each other and can be as different to each other as they are from men. That explains it :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 05:27 AM
1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Of course their achievements should be considered as far greater than comparable mens' if they had to struggle against patriarchy to achieve it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 05:15 AM
2	Women started civilization. Thoughts? He's allowed. No one took down records back then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 05:08 AM
-1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? What the?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 05:06 AM
0	Women started civilization. Thoughts? As an MRA, I always say that men and women have similar levels of power overall. What does that mean? (I say that in a non-snarky way)	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 05:04 AM
-1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Source? (from prehistory times that is, as the innovations that came afterwards are easily explained).	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 05:01 AM
0	Women started civilization. Thoughts? There are precise scientific claims. For the purposes of PPD, it seems a bit over the top. I thought the bullet points would work better. but point noted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 04:59 AM
0	Women started civilization. Thoughts? I didn't say it was a matriarchy. Perhaps it was even equal? Men hunting and bringing home meat would have been an important role too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 04:57 AM
1	With the male birth control pill almost upon us, how will this change the sexual marketplace? Can you please provide evidence of feminists doing anything else besides writing on a blog that they supposedly "want it"? Any fundraisers or supportive events for male birth control? I could look but I'm not sure I'd find it. All I can offer is that I know many women who would love for male BC to be an option, esp. if they have issues taking female BC. What is your opinion on Dr. Cotinho's experience with feminists on male birth control? Something that happened way back in 1974? A bit hard sinc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 04:55 AM
0	Women started civilization. Thoughts? It's a discussion statement. I qualified it with 'Thoughts'? to show it was debatable. I don't know how to change it. I've sourced all of it, except for the sex one, but I'm sure I can find something :D Ok, I'll change it to CMV and let it ride. EDIT: I'm confused. Do I need to repost this or not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 12:42 AM
1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? Dude, no one man invented the internet. I think your knowledge is sorely lacking. And the technology that the internet was built upon involved the work of women such as Elizabeth Feinler	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/15 12:33 AM
0	Women started civilization. Thoughts? ???	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 11:15 PM
1	Women started civilization. Thoughts? True. Although men and women could have worked alongside each other, instead of the way it went. We could have far better civilizations today if it had been like this. Although, civilization isn't necessary for happiness. Some tribes are happy living the hunter/gatherer life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 11:14 PM
0	Women started civilization. Thoughts? True. If they have no scientific understanding, they'll have nothing but snark to offer. I don't mind. It's expected.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 11:11 PM
3	RPW I want to hear you defend RP Men Kink might have been the wrong word but I can't think of another one. Unless for religious reasons or a woman was raised that way, I see purposefully seeking out the c/FM dynamic as a kink. (And totally ok) I agree with just about everything under your 'very strange ideas' link, except for this: Femininity is: Yielding: submitting and/or relinquishing oneself over to a higher power. God no. People tell me I'm very feminine - I look very feminine, dress very feminine, speak gently, smile and laug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 11:07 PM
0	With the male birth control pill almost upon us, how will this change the sexual marketplace? Freudian slip? Anyway, links?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 10:44 PM
3	CMV: Revenge porn is often a fundamentally just and noble act Revenge porn justified? Why, just last week I remembered how an ex boyfriend dissed me - and I grew righteously, biblically angry. I fetched my old porny vids and pics of him and got straight to work. I photoshopped off his beard because he'd hate to seen beardless (he was a hipster) and I photoshopped his penis down to half (it wasn't large to start with so he didn't have much left). I work as a photoshop expert, so it was fiendishly easy. I made a compilation of the best clips, esp. the ones w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 10:11 PM
0	RPW I want to hear you defend RP Men RPW is a type of kink and nothing wrong with that. Most will want to believe all that stuff because they like the captain/first mate dynamic. So while they'll say they have nothing to do with TRP men (because TRP forum is all about sex) they'll believe RP theory. The RPW way of life might relieve them of stress and a feeling of responsibility/pressure in their lives. They like the feeling they're being steered. They might also not feel very feminine and this gives them a way of feeling ultra-fem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 09:44 PM
-1	Here is why I lean towards accepting MGTOW's decision to not engage in relationships given the current unequitable I agree with this: Good luck teaching sociopaths not to rape. I hate the 'teaching men not to rape' thing. It's horrible. Most men don't rape. All men who rape are not sociopaths. But there are a degree that are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 09:22 PM
1	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman In that case, the official TRPer definition of game is off. It cites behaviors - things you do. I can't help it if TRPer logic is inconsistent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 09:17 PM
1	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? This is true. I will be more judicious with my fucks in future.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 09:15 PM
5	With the male birth control pill almost upon us, how will this change the sexual marketplace? sigh If male BC had been foisted on men and then later they'd discovered drops in libido, headaches, blood clots, early andropause etc - and women had by then refused to take any BC ... I'd LOVE to see what men had to say then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 09:13 PM
1	With the male birth control pill almost upon us, how will this change the sexual marketplace? Feminists are hardly entirely in support of this. I've seen articles by feminists lamenting that this will take power away from men. Take power away from men? How? Can I see these articles? I'm afraid the women who are far more likely to be upset about male BC are traditional homemakers who love staying at home and raising children. Women often want to have more children than their husbands do. (I'm not saying all homemakers are not feminists, as that's not true). Our birth rate will plummet if …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 09:08 PM
2	BP: You disappoint. Where is the cutesy terminology? lolz Hey, I thought you were serious on the last one. You must be the first person with a sense of humor, so you tripped me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 08:57 PM
2	BP: You disappoint. Where is the cutesy terminology? They are jooooooookes. Did you notice the 'pegging not negging' one? Nothing wrong with pegging but I only included it because there was a thread about it in PPD at the same time. I'd never heard the term before. Of course, I'll reserve my own opinion on which TRPer things I think work and which I don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 08:54 PM
1	BP: You disappoint. Where is the cutesy terminology? Oh What Malarkey	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 02:18 PM
8	With the male birth control pill almost upon us, how will this change the sexual marketplace? Female BC was thrust upon women in the 1960s without proper testing and the consequences were dire. Female contraception is still shit. It lowers sexual desire, causes health issues and some types can bring on symptoms similar to early menopause. Male contraception isn't here because scientists are being WAY more cautious and responsible than they ever were with women, and also because dealing with millions of sperm is harder than dealing with a couple of eggs. Women, not just feminists, want ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 02:15 PM
4	Why are most PUA's, TRP's and people trying to learn seduction mostly men? Women go elsewhere to learn seduction. There are popular blogs where they discuss this stuff. They're more focused on relationships than sex though. Not because sex is easy for them to get but because they'd rather a relationship than just sex. I'm assuming.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 12:25 PM
7	With the male birth control pill almost upon us, how will this change the sexual marketplace? I never down vote anyone. I just think a strong, leading statement like Male BC will never see American shores deserves framing and sticking on the PPD wall. I mean, if you're so sure and everything. Feminists want male birth control. When you realize that, am I next going to see statements like this: "Feminazis trying to force-feed male contraceptive pills down men's throats!!!" Feminists though, have no control over whether it reaches American shores. If there is enough demand from men, it wil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 12:21 PM
1	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? I think you (fucking) need to (fucking) discern the (fucking) meaning of posts a bit (fucking) better. :) I didn't say anything about what you're expected to do. Or what your wife is expected to do. I know a young couple, where he runs a passive business that brings in great income - neither of them work. They basically travel. He does most of the housework when at home because he likes doing it. The house was his before she moved in and he likes it cleaned his own way. I'm building up my own la…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 12:11 PM
1	Is Feminism going to decline in the following decades? Will Redpill ideas start burgeoning? Iran doesn't have the history of education that western countries do. When was the revolution? In the 80s somewhere?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 03:14 AM
1	With the male birth control pill almost upon us, how will this change the sexual marketplace? Male BC will never see American shores. Let's frame this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 02:40 AM
1	Why feminism needs an enemy. Red Herring. No one would be particularly happy if their spouse, or family member was a porno actress of any kind. Wha-a-t! We're not talking about porno actresses. We're talking about either a private film/photos or film/photos taken without a woman's consent or knowledge. A porn actress consents. Your wife or girlfriend did not. I answer this in the above link. Can't be assed going to look. I know I'll just find more of the same. This is such a slippery slope I'm not sure I can give an answer …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/15 02:26 AM
1	Is Feminism going to decline in the following decades? Will Redpill ideas start burgeoning? What is MRM?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 11:21 PM
1	Is Feminism going to decline in the following decades? Will Redpill ideas start burgeoning? We are going to enter a world with a much higher disease burden due to "superbugs," multi-drug resistant bacterial strains, floating around. I'm pretty sure most people have heard about the age of the superbugs. It's true that diseases are most probably coming (and some are already here) that we cannot devise treatments for and that we cannot develop antibiotics for. People will most probably die in large numbers. Yes, that's reality. Worse, the bees are diseased, and if bees keep dying in the n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 11:18 PM
3	BP's: Was Karen Owens empowered? If she had lots of sex and liked it, I don't see it as being empowered, but sounds like she had fun? If the men didn't give their consent to this 'thesis' going public, then she is at fault for sending it to her friends. She couldn't control what would happen to the 'thesis' once she'd done that. It's pretty disgusting to attach such comments as "small dick" to a man's photo and allow the possibility of it going public. That's describing the guy she gave the highest score too. Go look at the act…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 10:24 PM
2	On double standards - why is it considered hypocrisy if a promiscuous man is more attracted to women with low partner counts, but it's acceptable for a poor woman to be more attracted to wealthy men? Yep. But am not willing to debate this particular topic anymore right at this moment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 09:59 PM
2	Why feminism needs an enemy. 1) If it was your mother, sister, girlfriend or wife, would you also be happy with everyone treating their revenge-porn videos/images as entertainment? 2) Revenge porn can ruin a woman's reputation, job and emotional health. Would it be okay if a woman did something like that to a man? Would he deserve it? 3) Hate against women is responsible in part for women getting hurt, raped and battered. The idea that women deserve what happens to them is rife in our society. Would you agree that one isola…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 09:57 PM
2	On double standards - why is it considered hypocrisy if a promiscuous man is more attracted to women with low partner counts, but it's acceptable for a poor woman to be more attracted to wealthy men? If he thinks it but doesn't spread hate, I'm fine with that. About your stats, it could also be argued that men who are promiscuous before marriage are the greatest factor in the failure of a marriage. And those men might be more likely to marry previously-promiscuous women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 09:44 PM
1	Trp and the anger phase He searched for some obscure bullshit until he found it???	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 09:34 PM
10	On double standards - why is it considered hypocrisy if a promiscuous man is more attracted to women with low partner counts, but it's acceptable for a poor woman to be more attracted to wealthy men? Sigh	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 09:32 PM
1	With the male birth control pill almost upon us, how will this change the sexual marketplace? Apart from the fact that the responsibility for contraceptives gets a bit shifted now, the biggest impact will those women suffer who wanted to get pregnant against the will of the guy. Very true - it would be good for men to be able to protect themselves against that. There would also be a lot fewer accidental 'whoopsies' in relation to women getting pregnant in committed relationships/marriages. I don't know what the percentages are but I suspect a lot of pregnancies happen this way. And the c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 09:30 PM
6	With the male birth control pill almost upon us, how will this change the sexual marketplace? If this works and is safe, it would be fantastic for men to be able to protect themselves against unwanted pregnancy. In a committed relationship, men might take on the responsibility for birth control. But in terms of casual sex, I don't see women giving up their birth control. As someone else here said, I'd hope it wouldn't cause a rise in STDs due to people thinking it's ok to throw away the condoms. Edit: I wrote the following in a reply. Am adding it here: There would also be a lot fewer ac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 09:25 PM
24	On double standards - why is it considered hypocrisy if a promiscuous man is more attracted to women with low partner counts, but it's acceptable for a poor woman to be more attracted to wealthy men? but there's outcry and condemnation if a promiscuous man wants a more conservative woman? No. There's condemnation if the man goes around calling promiscuous women sluts (or any woman with a partner count greater than O really) and putting them down, all for doing exactly the same thing he is. Other than that, he can do as he pleases and marry who he please. No condemnation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 01:53 PM
1	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman If she's 18-25 she might be doing zero to maintain her figure. Or even if she is, not for the purposes of game. And how can that or natural facial attractiveness be part of girl game if your trp bible says this?: Game – A loosely based set of behaviors specifically designed to increase attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 01:39 PM
1	Trp and the anger phase In blue pill areas women and men are advised to make decisions based on their emotional state. Links please and there must be overwhelming evidence for such a strong statement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 12:35 PM
1	Trp and the anger phase Male emotion = based on logic. Female emotion = based on irrational thoughts. I'll give you some examples: When a mother loves her child: Irrational. The child is probably a little turd and she just doesn't realize. If the child is a baby, then it's ugly and the woman's mother-love doesn't allow her to notice. When a man is angry about his team losing and then gets so sad that he drinks so much he can't get up for work Monday morning: Logical. Sport is more important than anything. When a woman …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 12:30 PM
1	The three most important factors for millennial women when deciding to have sex with a man in 2015 Fair point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 11:09 AM
3	The three most important factors for millennial women when deciding to have sex with a man in 2015 Pretty realistic list for that age group, though I'd put beauty/symmetry first, nice body second, cocky attitude third, status last. Penis size matters but I don't think women focus on it as much as men seem to. As long as it does the job, and is big enough, he's good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 08:21 AM
2	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? Uh what the fuck. Why would a guy nag. That just goes to show nagging is detrimental always, no matter the gender. You are kidding me, right? Did you pay the electricity bill yet? Can't find my socks-Did you wash my socks-Why don't you wash my socks with your stuff? Why didn't you clean the kitchen? Did you buy a present for my X relative? He never ever nagged me for sex, which is the one thing i would have liked him to nag me for. Not that he'd have had to nag. And also I think we almost stumbl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 08:07 AM
1	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman Carol says no to girl game	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 07:53 AM
7	RPW Test! Did I get this right for an accurate if not a hundred percent scientifically rigorous look into trying something out? Keep his balls empty and his belly full Perhaps you could hook up some kind of machine. One part that does the daily milking and one part that pumps in viddles. Then, even if you're're sick, he's catered for. Hope this suggestion is helpful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 07:43 AM
2	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? I totally agree with you, if she doesn't do chores and no working she is a lazy slob. However, if she has a job, I would gladly split chores as her schedule would allow, or as I'd do with a male roommate. Nice. On a second note, you'd be surprised, male roommates don't nag at all, they're great. Sometimes I leave the dishes out for days, sometimes the roommate does, sometimes we both do. Sometimes if I clean the entire house I get beer too. Trying being with a man as an SO. They can nag constant…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 07:37 AM
1	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman Computer's AI says is not faulty	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 07:34 AM
4	Why feminism needs an enemy. I've seen some revolting posts here at PPD, but this one is one of the most revolting by far. OP, you chose THIS to make your point with? A seventeen year old kid has her nude photos spread around the internet and then has the added trauma of the emails and messages. Kids have committed suicide for less than this. I cannot believe you'd try to make your point off the back of this. This is so, so weak. How BRILLIANT of that girl to try to counteract the damage by what she did next. We should all …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 07:25 AM
-1	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman Computer sez no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 07:10 AM
2	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? Did this person work in a saw mill before they met their SO? Did they take care of their own shit at home? Yes? Then they can continue. You get with another person in order to have a relationship, not to take on a servant. If she doesn't work and doesn't have kids, then the two of them can work out an agreement, but there is no book of law that says she must do all the chores. I'd think she was damned lazy if she doesn't have kids to stay at home all day - chores or not. Why can't she get out to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 07:08 AM
0	Blue Pills who don't disagree with it all, have you successfully used a Red Pill Tactic in your love life? It was too silly to bother constructing a reply for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 07:04 AM
4	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? If there are children involved, no way. Both are a job. Both should share the chores.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 07:03 AM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? There is a ton of gray. If you check out 'sex by deceit' you'll come across some of it. the criminal kind I mean. The kind where someone manipulates someone by telling them they'll be their SO when all they want is sex - yes I see that as wrong. I don't think you could take it to court, but such a guy is very low - you wouldn't wipe your feet on him kind of low. If a man gives a woman a $10,000 diamond ring because she said yes to marriage, and then she makes it clear all she wanted was the ring…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 07:02 AM
1	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman I'm not sure what this reply means. Does it mean men ARE teaching women summin'?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 06:50 AM
0	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman Yep but not through any game. It was said in the post I replied to that girl game was RPW. Are all RPW super attractive? I'm confused.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 06:49 AM
2	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? It means jack shit in relation to household chores. If you live by yourself, you pick up your shit. If you start a relationship with a SO, you don't start expecting your SO to pick up your shit. Or if you do, THAT'S where a lot of relationships go out the window. Picking up someone's dirty socks is a love/sex killer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 06:48 AM
-1	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman Nope. Not something they're consciously doing. Cannot be game. Does not compute.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/15 06:43 AM
4	Why does Bluepill/Feminism insist so vehemently that rape has nothing to do with sexuality? Men who rape are far more likely to be criminals. Most men are not rapists. Men seeking/chasing women for sex is not predatory. The wish to have sex with whoever we want without consequence is not predatory. Women feel that, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 09:42 PM
2	Why does Bluepill/Feminism insist so vehemently that rape has nothing to do with sexuality? My view is that in general rapists feel entitled. They want sex, so they take it. Yes, it's sexual (in general) but certainly not always. Men who rape are far more likely to be criminals, thieves etc. They feel entitled to take what isn't theirs. If you get a rapist off the street and behind bars, crime goes down (generalizing here, as not every rapist commits other crime but is just more likely to). I don't believe rape is always about power and have never believed that. In war, there would be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 09:31 PM
2	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? If you stubbornly believe you're owed "X Y Z" because you do "A B C" and that's the end of the conversation, I'll be sitting here chuckling while you struggle to figure out why she seems to harbor some unspoken disdain for you. Yep.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 09:20 PM
1	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? By this logic, if I convince my girlfriend to be my doormat, TBP should theoretically stop bitching. But they don't. If by doormat you means she freely chooses to do all the housework, I'm cool with that. If by doormat you treat her badly, then it's a gray area. If she doesn't want to be treated badly but you manipulated her into accepting such treatment, then it's wrong. If she has some kind of fetish and can't live any other way, I'm okay with it (as long as she isn't being physically harmed a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 09:19 PM
3	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? Who has the permanently indentured servant and how?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 09:12 PM
0	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman I can't hand you that one. Some girls are just naturally very attractive - no makeup, hair natural. That's not game. 'RPW' is not code for Really Pretty Woman. It's code for women who believe in red pill ideals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 09:10 PM
1	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman Does it? I haven't noticed. Men should do it more. That'll teach women and their rampant sex drives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 09:07 PM
0	Blue Pills who don't disagree with it all, have you successfully used a Red Pill Tactic in your love life? I'm glad I provided you mirth :D	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 09:04 PM
7	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman Ah, how I long for the days of the future. When a man might say, "I think you're attractive, but not a good future wife and I'm also not going to have sex with you since there's no future."	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 03:41 PM
0	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman Hmmm, let me call to your attention to this little nugget: Not to mention that in order for a man of high SMV to settle down and marry a chick, that chick is going to have to demonstrate that she is worth settling down with. She needs to have girl game (RPW). What I quoted is from the actual study, and says that women who consider themselves very attractive don't hold any fear - which is saying they don't need the 'girl game' that Bormato claimed they did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 03:40 PM
0	Blue Pills who don't disagree with it all, have you successfully used a Red Pill Tactic in your love life? I agree with zero tactics that are specifically red pill (the tactics they didn't steal from elsewhere and slap cutesy names on and I also don't agree with a lot that they did steal). Red pill states that women can never be red pill and those who try to be are delusional (because only men can be red pill) - so as a woman I don't qualify anyway to use rp tactics. Negging (which PUA coined before TRPers) and which I call teasing (as have all rational people for a verrrry long time) has worked for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 03:12 PM
0	Blue Pills who don't disagree with it all, have you successfully used a Red Pill Tactic in your love life? lolololololololololololololololololol	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 03:03 PM
4	what is a fair division of household chores if one partner brings in 100% of the income? Unless one partner is a paid servant, it means jack shit what money the other partner brings home.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 03:00 PM
1	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman Nah. study found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands because they fear these men will be unfaithful, but this fear wasn't evident among women who are themselves highly attractive (Chu et al., 2011).	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 02:56 PM
4	Researchers found that women tend to shy away from attractive mates as husbands- Dr. Laura Berman I got a 'study' like that too! Woooooh! Let's all break out our studies! http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/allwoman/Men-prefer-to-marry-less-attractive-women--study	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 02:51 PM
1	TRPs is mostly comprised of life's losers who are upset that women don't want to be with...losers I'm afraid that's too inconvenient a truth for TRpers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 02:44 PM
0	TRPs is mostly comprised of life's losers who are upset that women don't want to be with...losers Unless you speak out about the beliefs listed in the post that started this topic, I'll believe you hold them. (Such as women thinking like children and being irrational). And those ideas about women are seriously twisted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 02:36 PM
2	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? He consented to taking a stranger home, not to the robbery. He consented to the actions leading up to the robbery, not the actual robbery. If he saw her stealing, I doubt he wouldn't have tried to stop her. And the woman in your scenario consented to the actions leading up to a relationship, but not sex without a relationship. If the sex was nonconsensual, then it was rape. Was she raped? No, not raped. Manipulated. I didn't say the sex was non-consensual, but it's a very, very gray area and I d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 02:31 PM
2	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? That is like saying a woman consents to getting raped by taking a stranger home. Exactly. Which of course she doesn't. Just like a woman consenting to the promise of a relationship isn't consenting to sex alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/15 01:44 PM
-1	TRPs is mostly comprised of life's losers who are upset that women don't want to be with...losers I never use the term 'loser' to refer to anyone. It's neither an insult or snark as I don't use it or apply any meaning to it. And I don't see any group of men as being 'losers'. I was merely using it in this instance in the context of this thread. I apologize for any insult. Okay, I take it back and fix it with my true meaning :) Sorry, person who holds twisted ideas about women :(	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 08:47 PM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? That's exactly the context that is applied to feminists. So you think the term is merely overused? Wow, I see TRP use it all the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 08:41 PM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? I think we can agree that her intention to steal was wrong. Why? In this case, he was mislead. He didn't "consent" to getting robbed like someone consents to sex. You could say he consented to being robbed by taking a stranger home. You could say that in your scenario, the woman was robbed. She was consenting to a relationship, not specifically sex. If she expected a relationship and instead got 'pumped and dumped' then in her mind she was robbed blind. He's stolen a night from her she could hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 08:34 PM
2	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? If a woman tells a man she wants to go home with him and he takes her home, and then instead of having sex as he expected, she runs away with all the money in his wallet - is he inherently stupid for taking a stranger home? Is her manipulation wrong when he should have been aware of the possible consequences? What if she does this every night? Do intentions matter? Is there anything wrong with wanting money? You tell me. (You didn't outline the actual situation but if in your scenario the woman …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 02:01 PM
1	What’s inherently wrong with manipulation? Oh, c'mon now. How many times do TRPers call feminists 'feminazis' in a day? Boom!!!	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 01:34 PM
0	TRPs is mostly comprised of life's losers who are upset that women don't want to be with...losers The TRP guys are not all losers, but they're angry at the wrong people, and willing to believe dumb things about those people (women) because of that anger. But very nice post. If TRP keep on believing women are children, women will continue to run past them and TRP will continue to grow angrier. Where will all this end? I don't know. Maybe TRPers will all end up going monk mode in some remote TRPer village, where they can build their own civilization . . . without any women to make them angry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 01:17 PM
2	TRPs is mostly comprised of life's losers who are upset that women don't want to be with...losers It is as the great Christopher Hitchens said: "The cure for poverty has a name, in fact: it's called the empowerment of women. If you give women some control over the rate at which they reproduce, if you give them some say, take them off the animal cycle of reproduction to which nature and some doctrine condemns them, and then if you'll throw in a handful of seeds perhaps and some credit, the floor will start to rise. The floor of everything in that village, not just poverty, but education, heal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 01:10 PM
1	Men are shit. AMALT. Why am I wrong? This is a fine list. Is this the manifesto of an upcoming brand new reddit sub? blinks One where women hide away and fester like pimples and say snicketty snarky marlarkey things about men? Ooh ooh, I know. We can call things men say "Red" or "DoubleRed" if it's really dumb shit (which it normally is). And if it's so bad we're laughing until we vomit, we can call it "DoublePlusRed. Too bad I think my SO is damned scrumptious and non-smelly and not an angry little hemorrhoid. I wouldn't earn admi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/15 10:35 AM
-1	How can you claim that women are mentally children and also that it's wrong for women to get lighter sentences? This is easily explained. At one time or another, the red pill founders read the book, 1984, and mistook it for an instruction manual. And so doublespeak became a perfectly valid thing to the red pill. It's okay to hold two opposing views, or to flip from one to the other. All you need do to make this kind of thinking valid is to give things catchy names, such as "oldest teenager in the house" and "hamstering". The people can follow catchy names. (Pedophilia is amoral. It's actually harming chil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/15 08:57 PM
1	Is getting married young to a man who will be hot enough to pull women with higher SMV when their youth fades a risky gamble for red pill women? That all sounds very believable. I guess I got the wrong end of the stick in thinking you were saying 'the wall' doesn't happen for men until their fifties. Yes, totally, people of all ages are attracted to each other and fall in love with each other. But marriage stats bear out that most women marry men within three years of their own age. When I used to hang out in the POF forums (for giggles) there were a ton of angry men in their late 30s/40s who couldn't get the 20s woman they thought they …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/15 08:40 PM
1	Female Masturbation It was indeed neglectful of me not to mention that. I also forgot hypergamy tingles. I must learn to do better ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/15 08:27 PM
1	Is getting married young to a man who will be hot enough to pull women with higher SMV when their youth fades a risky gamble for red pill women? I'm also not trying to be rude, but do you honestly hold with the notion that men don't 'hit the wall' until their fifties? We all know that red pill thinks that women hit it at 30. There is a wall for men too, and unless they are goddamn Hugh Hefner they're not going to be able to keep pulling hot, young women in their 50s. To me that means you see men as being able to pull 'hot, young women' until they are 50. So that's 20 years (between 20 and 50) where a man remains able to pull 'sex things'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/15 04:37 AM
1	Objectively speaking, how many young women (primarily on campuses) are going to hold third-wave feminist views? You don't think cheating is a bad thing? Or behaving ridiculously oversexual/in perverse ways? Do you call men who cheat or are sexually perverse sluts? And by the way, that's not what the word means. Try a dictionary. I'm saying that the fact that I said being a slut isn't a good thing bothers you. But yes, most of the really "devout" third wavers, at least from what I've seen, have no problem with screaming a lot and otherwise acting hysterically. It's stupid but that's just what they do. Yes,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/15 04:21 AM
1	Objectively speaking, how many young women (primarily on campuses) are going to hold third-wave feminist views? That seems to be the case with a lot of those who use the term "slut shaming" in earnest, not least because they break out that accusation all the time and especially when they think they or another woman is being "criticized" or "their choices as a woman aren't being given the respect they deserve". That's not commentary on female sexuality in general or women in general or anything or anyone other then those women who do use that term that way-- I think that's fairly straightforward. A slut is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/15 04:15 AM
1	Besides offering pick up and male/female relationship advice, what does the red pill truly offer? At the grocery store. Aisle 9, near the condoms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/15 03:54 AM
1	@RP: How would you teach your children (specifically your sons) about the Red Pill? @BP: Do you think children should be taught about TRP from a Red Pill perspective? Why or why not? Does having a bit of sensitivity, emotion and compassion have to be 'feminine'? I'll tell you one thing for free. When men shed a tear when their babies are born, it's the most masculine thing in the world. I say that seriously and honestly. Look, I agree with the post you linked to. That is how girls are. Yet every time I try to say that girls/women ARE visual, I get laughed at by red pill. A few days ago I got lol'd. But so are men. They like the pretty girls more than the not-so-pretty. It's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/15 03:52 AM
1	@RP: How would you teach your children (specifically your sons) about the Red Pill? @BP: Do you think children should be taught about TRP from a Red Pill perspective? Why or why not? Possibly. Most likely he'll feel resentment because of how he saw his sister treated. Red pill is pro-male and anti-woman. He might not feel overwhelming resentment until he's way past the rebellious years, when he realizes he's having trouble breaking away from his negative view of women and when he realizes 'holding frame' is demolishing him as a person, and he can't find any real happiness within himself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/15 03:43 AM
0	Female Masturbation Of course women should not masturbate and the practice of it does reduce their value. There are no emotions involved when a woman masturbates, and women are supposed to be all about the feels at times (not physical feels, mind you). She's divorcing herself from her emotions every time she masturbates. Every time it's herself and not an SO who gives her an orgasm, she dies a little inside. Women are meant to only be triggered sexually by their husband or significant other. Vagina tingles should n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/15 03:36 AM
1	Besides offering pick up and male/female relationship advice, what does the red pill truly offer? that's just good advice in general. That's the point. This advice can be found in lots of places, not just red pill. I think that's what Niess was saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/15 03:59 PM
8	Nagging/Peer Pressure for Sex He's an A-grade idiot. He should leave her and let her find someone better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/15 03:56 PM
2	Round the world Canadian girl (with a boyfriend) didn't have sex or romance with guy who gave her free ticket (contrary to 300 comment TRP thread saying she will - links inside). Thoughts? What a cool concept. He didn't mope. He got on with his life and went on the trip and started a charity. I'm not a jealous person at all, but I don't know if I'd cope with my SO going away on a world trip with a woman. I'm big enough to admit it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/15 02:19 AM
2	@RP: How would you teach your children (specifically your sons) about the Red Pill? @BP: Do you think children should be taught about TRP from a Red Pill perspective? Why or why not? I'm not riled at all (we're talking about virtual children). Just curious. I did read the posts above, which is how I found the post I commented on (naturally :) ). It was these things that had me scratching my head: your description of what sledhgehammer-depedestalization is and that you're going to teach your kids so that teaching them about sledhgehammer-depedestalization later on won't be necessary. That's why i asked. I have no idea what you'd teach kids so that kids aren't 'delusional abou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/15 02:06 AM
1	@RP: How would you teach your children (specifically your sons) about the Red Pill? @BP: Do you think children should be taught about TRP from a Red Pill perspective? Why or why not? That sort of depedestalization isn't "oh, take women down their pedestal, but do it gently and make sure you don't drop them too hard while doing so" (and probably just put them on a slightly lower pedestal), it's rather "kick them down from their pedestal and make sure really they landed on the ground". You'd teach that to little kids???	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 11:47 PM
2	@RP: How would you teach your children (specifically your sons) about the Red Pill? @BP: Do you think children should be taught about TRP from a Red Pill perspective? Why or why not? Women have a tendency to think they know whats best for children just because they have a vagina. Two boys messing around wrestling? FIGHT! This is horrible we need a parent teacher conferance. Girl practices gymnastic 3 hours a day? Shes overworking better push her back down to mediocrity. Boy draws a gun? Call the FBI. As a parent you constantly have to deal with these busy bodies enforcing the progressive agenda of dependency and mediocrity. You don't understand women at all. Women don't thin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 11:45 PM
2	@RP: How would you teach your children (specifically your sons) about the Red Pill? @BP: Do you think children should be taught about TRP from a Red Pill perspective? Why or why not? So I'm getting married soon. Soon afterwards, I will be having children. As my flair says, I am a Red Pill Man, and I plan to instill the tenets of TRP into my son so he can be a sexually successful man. If I have a daughter, I will work with her to maximize her SMV and secure a good husband that will treat her and my grandchildren well. Your daughter is most probably going to resent you for treating her differently to any boys you have and might rebel in ways you can't anticipate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 11:43 PM
1	Objectively speaking, how many young women (primarily on campuses) are going to hold third-wave feminist views? It isn't a good thing because being a slut in the first place isn't a good thing. Why? hands renner1 a shovel. Yet you're getting all out of sorts and throwing baseless accusations around. You also seem to dislike the fact that I said it's not good to be a slut. You say I'm 'getting out of sorts' because it's your narrative. If a feminist speaks, she's either screaming or hysterical or out of sorts. Nice. The women are going to loooooove you on campus. I'm not throwing baseless accusations aroun…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 11:28 PM
2	Objectively speaking, how many young women (primarily on campuses) are going to hold third-wave feminist views? Name one extreme view that I hold. That's actually been proven as opposed to you "determining" my "misogyny" because I used specific words to describe how specific people who hold specific views conduct themselves. Your view that women can be sluts and try to hide from their slutty behavior by using the term 'slut shaming' is extreme. That view is as extreme as it can get about female sexuality. You're as red pill as you can get. Welcome to TRP - they've got their arms open wide for you. Did I s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 11:19 PM
1	Objectively speaking, how many young women (primarily on campuses) are going to hold third-wave feminist views? girl who tries to use "slut shaming" as a way to hide away from being criticized for doing something slutty. What is something slutty? Have you ever done slutty things?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 11:04 PM
0	Objectively speaking, how many young women (primarily on campuses) are going to hold third-wave feminist views? Renner1, You're an obvious example of someone who holds extreme views when it comes to gender. You're not tired of 'gender wars' at all. You're perpetuating them. You used the word 'screaming' over and over in your comments below to describe anything women say. Also, the word hysterical. You replied to a TRPer who said something about women bleating to agree with him and use the word screaming in relation to women yet again. It's ironic your username thingie says 'I don't like delusional bullshi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 11:00 PM
2	Objectively speaking, how many young women (primarily on campuses) are going to hold third-wave feminist views? "proud sluts" is a good thing Proud sluts IS a good thing. And I've never done a gender studies course, or become hysterical over something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 10:45 PM
0	AWALT and cheating - just marry ugly women? Cheating is not such a big deal for him. He said he wants to cheat. Again, with trpers, what's good for the goose is not good for the gander.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 12:25 PM
4	Are western caucasian women hypergamous and slutty because they are beautiful? In whose eyes? How can you make such a statement? Japanese and Black women also stay looking good longer. I say this as a fair Caucasian woman who thinks you have no discussion point whatsoever because your question is senseless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 12:21 PM
1	Is getting married young to a man who will be hot enough to pull women with higher SMV when their youth fades a risky gamble for red pill women? splutter You're going to compare TOM CRUISE to most 50 year old men? He's not looking that good now anyway, but still football fields ahead of other men his age. He's not the usual. He's also had loads of work done on his face, whereas it looks as though Kelly is letting herself age naturally, Sandra Bullock and Cindy Crawford are Tom's age and they look amazing, but they are not the norm either. In any case, you're comparing a 47 year old Tom to a 52 year old Kelly. Not a non-celebrity 50 yr ol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 12:15 PM
2	Rpers, what do you think of this relatively recent study on men and women's behavior with regards to dating, selection, and casual sex? Didn't realize it was the only thing stopping women from creating matriarchies. Glad to know that. Yes it is the unfortunate truth. Women want men. Not under patriarchy, not under matriarchy. just in a damned equal society. Too much to ask.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 12:05 PM
1	Study states: If you treat women as equals you're viewed as a misogynist. It might be a thesis, but what I read of it is perfectly true. From the study: These findings have troubling implications, as misunderstanding the link between HS and BS can lead to dire consequences. Not only are ambivalent sexist men more likely to classify women in polarized subtypes, such that women are either placed on a pedestal or in the gutter (Glick et al., 1997), but ambivalent sexism is also associated with men’s and women’s attitudes that legitimize violence against women (Glick et a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 10:48 AM
2	Rpers, what do you think of this relatively recent study on men and women's behavior with regards to dating, selection, and casual sex? Not just that sex was pleasurable sometimes but that women have sex drives. A sex drive is a powerful thing. Argue against with something reasonable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 09:06 AM
1	Is getting married young to a man who will be hot enough to pull women with higher SMV when their youth fades a risky gamble for red pill women? But his healthy sperm are diminishing with every year. You can't honestly say that a man who is 10-15 years older (as you said) is going to look as good as his younger counterpart. If she's 25 and he's 40 when they marry, by the time she's 35, he's 50. Love is another thing, and if couples meet of whatever age and fall in love, so be it. Love is more important than age. But it's not a good strategy for women to go looking for someone 10-15 years older just because he'll be more established. He m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 04:33 AM
2	Rpers, what do you think of this relatively recent study on men and women's behavior with regards to dating, selection, and casual sex? If sex hurts and isn't pleasurable, ever, women won't be lining up for it. These days, we have guns. If guns also disappeared from the world, women would be taking off on their own and developing muscles and strength and their own enclaves. That's wut.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/15 04:27 AM
3	Rpers, what do you think of this relatively recent study on men and women's behavior with regards to dating, selection, and casual sex? Another no shit Sherlock. The male orgasm is more important than the female orgasm. Nature has selected for this. If all women on Earth stopped having orgasms tomorrow, the species would continue because men would continue to fuck women. If all men on Earth stopped having orgasms tomorrow, the species would die because men wouldn't see the point in fucking and sperm would not leave his body. I very much doubt this. If women stopped having orgasms/lost their sex drives this would have a profound …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 09:37 PM
2	Having your cake and eating it too Number of sexual partners for a woman is closely correlated to divorce and an unhappy marriage. Women of certain social standing are less likely to have a lot of sexual partners and more likely to want to stay married and increase wealth. The men of this social strata are pretty much the same. Women of lower social classes are more likely to have more partners before marriage and has a greater chance of marrying a man with addictions, who is violent etc Not a lot to do with number of sexual part…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 03:29 PM
3	Having your cake and eating it too You'd be surprised how little women care, unless you're excessively promiscuous. You'd be surprised at how much they care. There have been studies of young women that support this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 03:23 PM
2	Having your cake and eating it too What you fail to understand is that women are caring less and less about how 'some' men view them and their sexuality. You're playing a losing game.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 03:15 PM
3	Having your cake and eating it too A plate spinner is a very poor proposition for any woman wanting to marry. I'm not talking about the guy that's had a few sexual partners and girlfriends. I'm talking about the plate spinner who either blatantly lies to women or omits to tell them he's screwing other women. He has led a life of lies and cheatery. He has treated women like scum because 'sexual strategy is amoral'. He has ruined anything good inside himself along the way. He's washed up and sleazy and awful and will only manipulat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 03:11 PM
3	What inherent differences do you believe exist between men and women? minus the part about drug curbing sex drive; arguably the sex drive of men drives the success of the species. in more ways than one. How? I'd argue it works against the success of the species. If only physically and mentally desirable men had mated with women - because they were chosen by the women, we'd have far healthier stocks of humans today, instead of so much disease.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 02:55 PM
2	What inherent differences do you believe exist between men and women? Women are more visual than men. They are attracted to beautiful things moreso than men. They like looking at beautiful men and are sexually attracted to them. Men have far lower standards than women when it comes to beauty in the opposite sex. Men aren't as visual. As long as she looks young enough to bear children and is pretty enough, they're good to go. Women are more resilient than men. Men are more stoic than women. Men can compartmentalize emotions moreso than women. Men are more likely to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 02:49 PM
2	Pretty balanced views but I do somewhat agree that men are (naturally) the gatekeepers to commitment In the wild, devoid of society and the rule of law, most men would be raped by other men and forcefully submitted to servitude by other men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 02:27 PM
1	Is getting married young to a man who will be hot enough to pull women with higher SMV when their youth fades a risky gamble for red pill women? This scenario unfortunately doesn't account for the young attractive wife who loses attraction for her husband as the years go on, because in the TRP ideal, he's quite a bit older. She might cheat, she might leave or she might just grow bitter and resentful that she didn't realize what she signed up for when she was 24.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 02:21 PM
2	Is getting married young to a man who will be hot enough to pull women with higher SMV when their youth fades a risky gamble for red pill women? A woman's best bet for relatively safe long term commitment is, imo, a man 10-15 years her senior, while she is still pretty young, and kids. But what if she loses attraction for him ten years down the track because he's now 50, bald, paunchy and boring - and she starts having affairs with men who sexually attract her? That's not looking good for her marriage. It's ludicrous for women to marry much older men simply because of the reasons you stated. He gets the attractive partner and she gets th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 02:13 PM
1	Is getting married young to a man who will be hot enough to pull women with higher SMV when their youth fades a risky gamble for red pill women? So, a wife will hit the 'wall' in her thirties and her husband will hit the 'wall' in his fifties? That's twenty years in which the husband will consider his SMV to be much higher than his wife's.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 02:03 PM
1	I know it's not red pill or blue pill, but what do you guys think of "Seduction" and "Pick-up Artistry"? ok thanks. I wonder if the ideologies are at all different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/15 12:19 AM
1	Evolution and Natural Selection If you like :) No credit needed though!	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/15 12:17 AM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? I support you in that quest (not personally, just generally ;) )	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/15 12:16 AM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? lol lol lol We don't care if we have chocolate or candy, we really don't. But we mostly choose chocolate. Not that we care. Really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 10:15 PM
1	I know it's not red pill or blue pill, but what do you guys think of "Seduction" and "Pick-up Artistry"? Guys at /r/seduction will generally tell you that red pill is frowned upon in that sub. Why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 10:08 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Doesn't matter what link-bait internet articles claim. All i'm interested in is the raw data. Career men are marrying career women. Which disproves all the argy-bargy that says they're not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 09:57 PM
2	Evolution and Natural Selection I have an evolution question and I'm too lazy to start a new discussion for it. From what I see, traditional western women would like to have more babies than their husbands do. Husbands are usually the ones saying, 'no more kids' and limiting the children to two. I do understand economic restraints etc. But the urge for western men to put more children out into the world and 'spread the seed' doesn't seem to be there, even when they could easily afford more kids. Please don't respond with cries…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 09:52 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Still makes no sense to marry if you acknowledge trp views I support TRP in holding that view.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 09:37 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Men care if she's attractive and a nice person. They don't care if she is professionally successful or has a PhD. It really is that simple. Data please.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 09:35 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? men are attracted to people because of socioeconimic status. No, I didn't say that. My point is that career men with options are not (overall) choosing the kind of women that RP is saying a man with such options will choose. I think if you'll take a step back from your obvious glee at what you think is a home run attack on TRP, Glee? You're mistaking glee for extreme confusion over where they get their theory from. But you just flipped it around and pointed out that women doctors marry male doct…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 09:32 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Thanks for the very thoughtful reply. The RP-consistent argument: A woman's value as a mate would be weighed against her possible detriment as a drain on those resources. Therefore, women's SMV also increases as they become financially independent - though then you also have to ask if there is a benefit to be had (sexual politics-wise) from having a partner who is dependent on you... The RP consistent argument I see is this one but what you said might also be true. In that case, there are wildly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 09:18 PM
2	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Does anyone else think that StatingTheObviousz is a regular who decided to start a new username so he could run around and make little needling jabs with the little needles he's carrying around in his sewing kit?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 09:11 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? No, not blaming anyone - if you read my edits you'd see that. The real problem here, which you refused to state out loud for idealogical reasons, is that most men outside of TRP are very classist when it comes to dating. Most affluent people are focused on building more wealth, and marrying high is part of that. No, I didn't shrink away from anything. RP has stated over and over than men (in general) don't want career women but instead want traditional women. If that's so, what's stopping a care…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 09:08 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Your assertion doesn't support the data.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 09:02 PM
3	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Thank you. I was starting to believe i was living in the world of 1984. No, that is not what we believe, THIS is what we believe!!	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 09:00 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? No not really, the advice overwhelmingly given is do not marry at all. Yes, I see a lot of that. Second most common and what you are referring to is marry a young stay at home wife, which by trp logic is retarded due to the likelihood of divorce rape. No. Dead wrong. This is what I see repeated in posts everywhere. Marry a young, traditional woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 08:58 PM
2	Red Pillers: If the entire world took the red pill, what would change for men and women? Would women benefit? ok, go ahead :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 08:55 PM
0	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Does this make sense to you? Yes. But posts like yours are not given in response when RPers say that men don't care about your job and would rather a woman who isn't a career woman. Which doesn't fit with what you said. This kind of stuff is what I see everywhere: men want traditional women and career women (expressed in less eloquent terms than in this article, of course: http://illimitablemen.com/2014/07/20/women-the-death-of-femininity/	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 08:54 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? 16 might be too young, but 19 or 20 yes. And I've seen that kind of thing said in RP so much. Get them young and innocent and eager to please.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 08:17 PM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... bazmeg and his wife step out of their usual routines and decide to go to the PPD bar. It is indeed exactly as they imagined. They both decide hanging out with the baby at home is vastly more entertaining.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 08:15 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? So, in that case, women are doing the choosing when it comes to marriage. Men are not the ones doing any of the choosing - a wealthy man with a great career and great prospects is not in a position to choose a wife but must wait for a woman to choose him. Is that what you're saying?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 08:12 PM
-1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? This requires too much explaining. Look up the terms in the article.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 06:35 AM
0	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Why are men the go-to social safety net of any class of women? That's a separate discussion all on its own. Please start one :) Why should men marry at all? Who is saying they should?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 06:34 AM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? He didn't say so. I did. On the basis of the data.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 06:31 AM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Women are at fault for this too. Actually I would say women are more prone to homogamy than men. Does anyone else see this? In my field we call it the 'power couple' Most definitely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 02:42 AM
2	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? I would but it would be a complete bore. He would just shrug, grin, give me a kiss and ask where we're going out to dinner tonight. Nothing fazes him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 01:25 AM
-1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Easy peasy. I'm talking about the red pill constitution, as in 'red pill thinking'. http://illimitablemen.com/understanding-the-red-pill/red-pill-constitution/	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 01:22 AM
2	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? What I'm getting at is that red pill asserts that men don't care about education/career and don't want career women as wives. Also, that they should not marry career women. Yet, in the real world, career men are marrying career women. Career men are not (as red pill asserts) stepping outside of norms and marrying women who are as young and hot as possible. Red pill asserts that this is what all men do - when they want to marry they seek women who are as young and hot as possible. Yet, the stats …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 01:01 AM
3	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? I don't think red pill should be doing anything. I'm just asking 'shouldn't they' on the basis of what they preach.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 12:43 AM
2	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Tell that to illimitable man: http://illimitablemen.com/understanding-the-red-pill/red-pill-constitution/ Then come back and talk to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 12:42 AM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Gosh yeah. You speak truth. But - and I'm starting to get hoarse from repeating myself - RP asserts that men (all men) only care about youth and hotness when it comes to marriage. Do you see the discrepancy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 12:11 AM
3	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? No argument there. But it saved me from linking to several quotes as it was all in the one place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 12:08 AM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Can't wait to ask my SO if he's willing to be my little sugarbaby bitch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 12:06 AM
2	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Fair enough. I have no argument with your opinion. Nor am I advocating marriage in my post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 12:05 AM
5	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? I've seen lots of rp instruction on specifically not marrying career women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 12:02 AM
0	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? I don't think it's men's problem or responsibility at all. I'm being sarcastic when I'm calling on red pill men to take up the challenge. Sheesh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/15 12:00 AM
-1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? I'm not specifically referring to TRP (the red pill sub on reddit). I'm referring to red pill in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 11:58 PM
3	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? protip: if it's not the dailymail's own opinion and they're quoting sources, just follow the sources. Nice try at running away from real data though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 11:56 PM
2	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? I think you're missing that assortative mating means genetic and phenotypic pairing. Yes people typically date within their race, and that fits with genetic and phenotypic pairing, but such pairing also includes intelligence and other phenotypic variables. Close to half of female physicians marry male physicians. This isn't just marrying within a certain economic class. This is people marrying people with very specific attributes. There are a large ratio of white women in the US who do not have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 11:43 PM
2	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Yay for Sir Nemesis.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 10:52 PM
3	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? But shouldn't rich men be swooping in and marrying the hottest and youngest of the poor women? This is what RP says men do (not just rp men but all men).	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 10:51 PM
4	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? RP men fdont care about womens social caste or education Yes but rp say all men think the same. Clearly, they don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 10:45 PM
2	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Interesting proposition. Do you think it is the responsibility for men to provide for women? Not in the least. See my edit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 10:44 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Red pill is actually strongly against what these researchers mean by homogamy. Red pill is all about rich wealthy older dudes marrying smoking hot airhead trophy wives young enough to be their daughters. Finally. Yes, you get it. (Only you're not red pill sigh)	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 10:43 PM
1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? And TRP generally advocates the same. Really?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 10:22 PM
-1	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? But why are men marrying the lawyers and high-flyers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 10:21 PM
4	What are examples of women having to curb their natural instincts? Which is driving the incels crazy. Good job, rp.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 10:05 PM
3	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? No, it's not nearly as steep, but must be taken into account. Women at age 30 have a 75% of pregnancy within a year and a 91% chance of pregnancy in the four years between 30 and 34. Men have a 35% chance of impregnating a woman at age 45. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2051041/MALE-biological-clock-After-41-chance-father-declines-rapidly.html	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 10:03 PM
1	Redpill relationships and online gaming. Thanks for your explanation and I'm glad it works for you and her. Personally, I understand the challenging her to grow and become more than she would have been without you. Your example of the restaurant is a good one. It's just hard for me to accept that a man must take this role of leader. If all people respond when a man is a good leader then all people should also respond when a woman is a good leader. I hope, if in the future your relationship is not as good, you don't take all the respons…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 09:39 PM
3	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? No, you're talking smack. A woman aged 30 has a 75% chance of falling pregnant within a year and a 91% chance of falling pregnant in the four years between 30 and 34. A man aged 45 has a 35% chance of impregnating a female. Forget the 50 year olds. Why do you think sperm donor clinics don't want sperm from men aged over 35? And NO, there are far more birth defects stemming from men and these increase with each year. You really need to research.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 09:29 PM
2	Red Pillers: If the entire world took the red pill, what would change for men and women? Would women benefit? Dead serious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 09:22 PM
2	What is feminism? Easily. You had groups of women who were unhappy with the setup of society. This was the root of the feminist movement. They campaigned for anti-slavery rights, including the rights of black men to vote. (Lucretia Mott, Elizabeth Cody Stanton etc) They were denied a voice at the world anti-slavery convention in 1840 simply because they were women. They decided that the voices of women against inequities in society would be heard only if women had rights. Hence the official start of the women's r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 09:22 PM
2	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? 1) If men want the best chance of a healthy baby and successful pregnancy, they'll marry in their 20s. Same for women. Men don't do fertility checks in their 20s either - half of fertility issues stem from men, and worsen as they age. 2) I agree that you should do what suits you best. And no, the demographic of women most likely to be single are POOR women. Hence, single mothers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 09:13 PM
1	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? How on earth is that statement shaming men? If a man asked a sex-positive woman what women look for when they want sex, he would have got a straight answer. Nowhere did I say "all men want is sex". Because I know that's wrong. The advice on what women want is everywhere. The advice on what men want is everywhere. People close their ears and eyes sometimes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 09:06 PM
2	Red pill - we need you to fix the homogamy. Are you up to the challenge? Aren't you red pill? I thought any red pill guy would know exactly what I'm implying with my post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 08:43 PM
10	What are examples of women having to curb their natural instincts? I've seen RP argue that myself. It's insane.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 08:42 PM
8	What are examples of women having to curb their natural instincts? If she's totally into you: not to kiss you before you kiss her not to have sex with you straightaway In general, on a date: not to look at other guys not to flirt with other guys not to call her friends or mother when she's bored Though I suppose RP types might argue that flirting with other girls would establish higher value. Really? Most girls would think 'next' if you did that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 08:20 PM
5	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? How can you speak for all men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 07:54 PM
1	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? You cherry picked. I said the whole truth is out there. Remember, women feel a similar way about men. If a woman knows a man has been sleazing around using women (pumping and dumping) for years and now wants to get married, she'll think ewwwww.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 11:09 AM
1	The damage of the cock carousel... What was that, son? Let me put my hearing aid in. Slutting his best years away with women until he can find the woman who is stupid enough to commit with him. I'm sure any woman will be happy knowing you were easily used by so many women in your younger/thinner/more desirable years without any commitment. Ah, well, fair enough, if that's your opinion. And Western women are wondering why men are leaving them in the thousands for women in foreign countries :) Western women don't care, except to ho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 11:06 AM
2	A survey for sexually experienced women (with high partner counts) 1 67 and 3/4 and I've have exactly that many sex partners He had flabby elephant-ears love handles and people called him Dumbo Yes I now look for a partner with teeth I can't lie about my past. I marked my bed post and my hubby and I sleep in that same bed Open a noodle store. I like noodles. Yes I felt terribly, terribly used. I would have given that 50 Shades chickie a run for her money. Yes, all of them were red pill. I like the ones that try hardest to be manly. It's cute. No, he has terribl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 10:51 AM
3	Making future predictions I am from an Indian family, and many of my cousins have high profile careers which they worked their butt off to get. Now they are looking for husband material in their 30s and are having a difficult time. I'd assume a woman in her mid-30s who was looking for a husband had either decided she didn't want children or she'd been looking for a long time and hadn't found a man she wanted to marry. There are men who either don't want children or have children and don't want more - these men are out th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 05:27 AM
1	What is feminism? No, the feminist movement was created to allow black men access to the mainstream of society. Get your history right, then proceed as you will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 05:12 AM
1	What is feminism? I know this second in time won't last. But it's nice while it lasts (until you come back with a counterpoint...)	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 05:10 AM
12	Red Pillers: If the entire world took the red pill, what would change for men and women? Would women benefit? Don't we already have evidence of what would happen? Look at what happened in Afghanistan when the Taliban took over. That's exactly what would happen if everyone took the red pill. The red pill thinks: Woman's submission demonstrates her man's alphaness and masculinity Men are not interested or attracted to intelligence in women. Women think like teenagers anyway. Women should not have sex outside of marriage (or at least, not more than two LTRs) Women should marry young and not have careers Wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 04:34 AM
4	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? Women want bad boys for sex and nice guys for marriage. Same as men want bad girls for sex and nice girls for marriage. How on earth is that hard to understand? NO ONE and I mean NO ONE could possibly miss women talking about BAD BOYS. You'd have to be living under a rock. All of this "but I didn't know!" and "Women misled me!" is FALSE. It's lies you guys tell yourselves to explain why you're not having luck at dating. It's easy to BLAME WOMEN for everything. They're an easy target. If you were…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 04:11 AM
7	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? Most women can have kids between ages 34-39. That's plenty of time to have 2 kids. Half of fertility issues stem from men. And so older women who marry men of the same age will come up against that issue more often. And women should definitely not marry men who are older than themselves if they want the best chance of not having fertility issues. Most men DO care about a woman's job. Red pill guys are a little subset that want traditional women only. You don't live in the real world. Losers or l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 03:55 AM
1	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? Women lie to men and tell them to do things that are "socially acceptable". That's why "just be yourself" is so widely accepted as sane dating advice. Female shame mechanisms prevent her from being honest and saying, You guys are mixing up 'women' with your mothers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 02:16 AM
12	Can men give advice to women on how to attract a high-quality man, or does the "fisherman" analogy work both ways? That is the crappiest and most laughable advice I've yet seen from a guy. Hold onto your fantasies. A woman of 30 in good shape who is interesting with a good job is bowled over with great men the same age who want relationships. All you know is red pill rhetoric. The women complaining they can't find a good man unfortunately couldn't find a good man when they were 22 either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 02:14 AM
2	What do you think about this TRP thread discussing Elliot Rodger pre-shooting? The fact that you can write an awful lot of stuff about men that would get you booted if you wrote something comparable about women is a testament to this. Simply put: there is no white-knighting for men as a gender. I think this is true in some respects. I do see what you mean. On the other hand, most journalists, ad creators, film makers and news camera-people are men and most of what is presented objectifies women or places them in a strict role, and I see this as negative for women. I see th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/15 01:10 AM
5	What do you think about this TRP thread discussing Elliot Rodger pre-shooting? I'm not sure if 'feminine-centric narrative' is the right term. As far as I understand, feminine-centric means 'from a female viewpoint'. I'd say that most media reporting is coming from a male viewpoint and is colored by tradition. In history, men went to war or tried to protect women/children from invaders and also sent them off sinking ships first. In general, not always. (The Titanic is an example of rich men getting off the ship before poorer women and children). So, people react more to wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/15 10:53 AM
7	What do you think about this TRP thread discussing Elliot Rodger pre-shooting? Happens all the time. Next time you read about war casualties, pay attention to how they say "X number of people were killed, including Y women and children." The focus on women and children showcase the disposability of males. This is true, Aerobus. I've definitely noticed it. Blame the media. But if you think women are behind this, think again. Who campaigned for to bring back the men from the Vietnam war and end it? Women. Who campaigned for black men to get the vote? Women. If you think wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/15 08:41 AM
8	What do you think about this TRP thread discussing Elliot Rodger pre-shooting? Oh god no. The death of those young men was tragic and devastating - just as much as the deaths of the women. Don't EVER claim that feminists don't care. You can't speak for all feminists - just the same as I can't. But I do know a lot of women who identify as feminists, and their comments on facebook and elsewhere included ALL the people who were killed. It was misogyny, fuelled by some kind of mental illness or disorder. He killed the men because he imagined women gave to them what they wouldn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/15 08:36 AM
0	Redpill relationships and online gaming. Will take a look - looks like a long one. Might take me a while to digest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/15 03:17 AM
2	What is femininity? I'd agree with this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/15 03:16 AM
2	What is femininity? I can't stand the dumbfuggery any longer....	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/15 03:16 AM
2	If make up and dressing up is something women do for themselves or other women... Sorry dude. I've seen those sites where guys post pics of big hot mummas, esp. if their body ratio stays the same. If I put on all that weight, I'd only attract a different subset of men. Can't win.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/15 03:15 AM
0	Redpill relationships and online gaming. That's not a Darwin quote and there is lots of such material from scientists of that era. Christianity was not interpreted the same way it is today back then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/15 03:11 AM
0	What is the female equivalent to "thinking with your dick?" Too hard, as women are diverse with sexual response. For some women, sensation in the uterus rules all, for others, it's the clitoris and surrounding organ. For some others, it's the vagina. And for others, it's a whole body thing. Also, women don't admit that wanting sex got them into situations. Lying cheats.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/15 03:06 AM
0	Redpill relationships and online gaming. that's so blatantly false it's insane. A man wouldn't sacrifice his life over livestock but he would over his wife and children. Was this in reply to someone else? It doesn't seem in connection with anything from my post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/15 02:57 AM
3	What is femininity? I'm going to assume it's some kind of satire, because no three people could seriously be that kind of dull-witted. I don't know which line is my fave - I can't choose! I feel so female right now. I'll just pick my top three: David: It was Otto Weininger who said that if a woman does anything scientific, or masculine, it's because she's out to please a man - like her father, husband, or son. There is no pure motivation for knowledge in a woman. Sue: Well, to start with, you're talking about a cre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 11:20 PM
1	What is femininity? ;) Which is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 09:41 PM
2	If make up and dressing up is something women do for themselves or other women... Name 1 thing you do with make up or clothes that makes you less attractive to the opposite sex. Man, I gave it the old college try, but nothing worked. Any suggestions?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 09:38 PM
1	TRP, what do you think of alpha men who go after the same "trophy" women like Eric Clapton pursuing Pattie Boyd during and after her relationship with George Harrison or Drake and Chris Brown fighting Women like men because of the trait that they are desired by other women. You mean for sex purposes? I guess that would make sense. For marriage purposes? No. She's looking for a lot of things other than women pursuing her future husband.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 09:22 PM
1	Redpill relationships and online gaming. The nature of women needs to be kept in check. The law keeps men in check and constrains our base extremes. It seems you have no understanding of women's base extremes. Sex whenever you want with whomever you want, murder, rage, revenge, theft - these are all very human things. Where I see the biggest divide is that women are more likely to act on what benefits children rather than what benefits themselves. But that doesn't mean that the base desires aren't there. Thankfully women are naturally …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 08:54 PM
1	Redpill relationships and online gaming. Glad to hear :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 08:45 PM
0	Redpill relationships and online gaming. Of course I've read those stories. Show me where I said that women in the west never spoke or did anything for themselves. Obviously, I spoke about traditional women who didn't step outside their 'supporting roles'. It's not revisionist to point out the prevailing scientific opinion of the day. Show me how I'm wrong on that and I just might change my mind. No one can say I'm not reasonable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 08:43 PM
0	Redpill relationships and online gaming. Yea, I was scratching my head. Maybe I'm just having trouble understanding the captain/first mate thing and need to understand those couples more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 08:37 PM
-1	Which gender do you think has a better sexual strategy in general? The non-red pill one, naturally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 12:42 PM
1	Redpill relationships and online gaming. Yes, they would. This is my personal opinion: Because women do the bulk of childcare, I believe they care more about harm coming to the children of other people/countries. Not to say some women aren't bloodthirsty/warlike at any cost etc They are such a small percentage of the actual conflict. there are also lots of women part of ISIS too... True, but they're doing a stellar job and proving women are more than capable of going to war. The women in ISIS believe wholeheartedly in a patriarchal sys…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 12:34 PM
1	Redpill relationships and online gaming. you say that you are a realist but you fail to acknowledge that in certain times children do need to work. Imagine if we go to tribal times, after 8 hours of hunting no food is found, do the guys are like well, my shifts over maybe on Monday. While your tribe is starving are the kids supposed to just play around? Are you ok with wealthy industrialists sending children down to work in the mines all day, with many of them dying? If they'd paid the parents more, the children wouldn't have needed to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 12:14 PM
4	Redpill relationships and online gaming. I call bullshit. We were discussing relationships. Of course I've had male teachers and bosses, and some have been great. Why the F-k would you pick that characterization? I'm seriously quite curious. Of all the characterizations, that seems oddly specific. You said she chose you because she knew you would lead her. If not for religious reasons, I can only assume she finds the world overwhelming. This isn't saying something bad. Some people feel like they need an umbrella to operate under. And s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 11:54 AM
5	Redpill relationships and online gaming. And gee, you must be a ton of fun in a relationship. "Hi honey! I just discovered this great new place that I think we should..." "Stop right there! Are you going to suggest that I do something that I don't already know about? Don't you remember, I don't listen to any plans you have unless I helped you come up with them! You're just trying to control me, aren't you? I'm outta here!" Holy crap... He thinks I'm fun, but he could be deluded. In actual fact, I'm likely to say 'you decide' to him, an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 11:23 AM
4	Redpill relationships and online gaming. I'd assume that people who want the captain-first mate dynamic are happy with that part of their relationship. I'd assume they're not playing roles but just being who they are. Of course we should not play roles in relationships that we don't really believe in - it would be exhausting and unfulfilling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 11:02 AM
0	Redpill relationships and online gaming. I'm unsure why any RP women have the audacity to be online discussing things. I don't see how you imagine women have the intellectual ability to discuss anything at all. After all: Women . . . represent the most inferior forms of human evolution and . . . are closer to children and savages than to an adult, civilized man. They excel in fickleness, inconsistency, absence of thought and logic, and incapacity to reason. Le Bon These were the common thoughts of the scientific community back then. If…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 06:40 AM
3	Redpill relationships and online gaming. then this means two things one, feminists need to acknowledge that the past was a not a system of oppression but a system of survival and utility. Feminists are realists and can see where things happened due to survival and utility. But you cannot say there were not systems of oppression in the past. Slavery. Poor wages. Terrible working conditions. Children forced to work in dangerous industries. While the rich got richer. Where did women fit into all this? Before women were in the workforce wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 06:25 AM
3	Redpill relationships and online gaming. Sounds like you have a good relationship and I glad it's working for you. If a man is a strong, inspiring, and, most of all, proven leader, the women in his life won't feel forced into following him - they will follow him willingly and love him for the leadership he provides. You can't speak for all women. It is unnatural for me to follow a man's leadership, as it is for many women. I want to walk beside him and share and grow together. If he leads, I leave. I was able to provide for my wife thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 06:08 AM
2	Redpill relationships and online gaming. The reason women now have jobs, is because of the industrial revolution. Many of the jobs back in the day required lots of manual labor, and only because of the advent of machines were women at all useful. Women worked alongside men on farms, and worked hard, before the industrial revolution. These days, women produce over half of the world's food. In some countries, they produce 80-90% of the food. Women could fight in wars, but when large portions of women would die, a country's population wou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 05:58 AM
1	Hypothetical Situation for Both Pills It's not that it "matters more", it's that whoever has control of the finances ultimately has more power over the family, its well-being and the direction it goes in. You could argue that the person in charge of raising the kids and taking care of the household is also important, but ultimately it's down to who pays for everything. In many traditional households, the man hands over his paypacket to his wife. She then pays the bills and buys groceries etc. In fact, in all the traditional relation…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 04:46 AM
2	Hypothetical Situation for Both Pills Great question! It's both red and blue. I think what RP keeps missing is that a man is a man is a man. He's a man no matter what he does. A man at home raising the kids cannot be other than masculine. In some western countries, the number of stay at home fathers is rising and rising. Like in Australia - when you consider the population there, 100,000 men is a large amount.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 04:40 AM
10	Redpill relationships and online gaming. I agree that roles get things done. Roles work. Masters and slaves work and are responsible for a lot of the building of the great civilizations of the world. People working in terrible conditions for terrible wages work and got lots done during the industrial revolution. Men doing stuff and women supporting men to do stuff works and gets things done. Where it comes undone in terms of happiness is where anyone playing these roles feels like they're playing a role and aren't living life according…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/15 04:17 AM
1	Question for all Pills: Jealousy and Sexuality According to the survey, men were fairly evenly divided on being most upset over emotional versus physical cheating. It makes sense women would say they're less upset with physical cheating - because many have been led to believe that if they don't satisfy a man in every way possible, he'll cheat. And it will be their own fault. Also, obviously, many married women's husbands see prostitutes. Those women who wish to stay married will rationalize that it's okay, even if deep down it bothers them g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/15 08:56 AM
2	What's the relationship between a woman's partner count and how well she performs sexually? The main argument from blue pillars is that more partners = more practice I'm non-red pill. I don't think that. Good sex comes from learning one another, and learning how to learn from someone. I don't think good sex can only come like this. Good sex is good sex, however it comes (no pun intended ;) ). You could have a one-night stand that is amazing in every way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/15 08:33 AM
1	Where do you draw the line between narcissism and the normal human desire to be validated and loved? From those on the BP side: at what point do RP relationships, in your view, cross the line from normal human desire for companionship, love, and validation into a narcissistic personality situation (if you hold such a view)? I'll admit I'm having trouble with this question. Relationships don't "cross the line ... into a narcissistic personality situation." One (or both) persons might have narcissistic personality disorder, or not. Examples of narcissistic behavior in a relationship: believing an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/15 08:06 AM
1	For all: which life would you choose by 40: slept with 500 men/women and no money and career, marry 1 man/woman and be a successful millionaire in your chosen field, or slept with around 20-30 m/w and What bothers a lot of RP people is when people who slut away think they are entitled to what those who don't are. Why does it bother them what women think?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/15 12:40 AM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... GuildedCasket gets kinky. 82.7% people at the bar approve.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 11:49 PM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... winndixie hits on a hottie. The PPD regulars scramble to take notes in order to discuss the technique and results at length in the forum the next day	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 11:47 PM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Just as the bar was closing, boscoist comes alive and gets the party started again. Tables are danced on, drinks are spilled, good times...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 11:45 PM
1	The damage of the cock carousel... This is true. Women are thinking 'babies' around that age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 11:40 PM
1	For all: which life would you choose by 40: slept with 500 men/women and no money and career, marry 1 man/woman and be a successful millionaire in your chosen field, or slept with around 20-30 m/w and No regrets.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 11:39 PM
3	Are women more identical to each other than men are (in AWALT terms, not in looks) because they have two X chromosomes rather than XY? It's not a fact it doesn't matter who observes it. When it comes to traits such as blue eyes, yes. But when it comes to phenotypic attractiveness or behavior, there are filters according to who observes these things. This results in more phenotypic variation. In who? And why? The expression of genes is not a reason - it's a statement without any interpretation offered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 11:39 PM
1	Are women more identical to each other than men are (in AWALT terms, not in looks) because they have two X chromosomes rather than XY? With a percentage of x-inactivation, the genes are expressed to whatever degree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 07:44 PM
3	Are women more identical to each other than men are (in AWALT terms, not in looks) because they have two X chromosomes rather than XY? Just internally. Across all members of our species, females are phenotypically less diverse. In whose observation? Furthermore, studies suggest that the X chromosome is rapidly evolving.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 07:42 PM
1	The damage of the cock carousel... Sorry, I stopped believing in soulmates some time ago; and I have a hard time believing that the best man possible comes along Cut me some slack. I don't believe in soul mates either. I have an open mind to scientific theories of multiverses tho' ;) Alternative explanations: social expectations, since in our current cultural climate having married around 30 is perceived as the norm. their SOs (who are more likely to be the same age) starting to exert increased pressure to marry. Also, any new SO…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 10:44 AM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... I'm talking about people who are known to be victims, yet are blamed. Women are blamed for wearing short skirts, or being alone with a man or for telling the police when "the bitch should have kept her big mouth shut". tryin2figureitout and petticoat_rule get into a fun-killer conversation at the bar. Everyone starts leaving. The bar closes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 10:36 AM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Wouldn't be a victim if it was the victim's fault.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 07:38 AM
2	Bluepill advice focuses on philosophy, rather than results. I think it's silly to cherrypick responses on reddit to prove an entire argument. We don't know who these responses come from, and blue pill is defined as "not red pill". They're not a movement or a group and they don't have their own theories and dogma. You could go into the red pill subs and cherrypick responses from there. It wouldn't be pretty (or realistic). My response to these: • Hitting on girls when they have a guy next to them that might be a boyfriend. Stupid • Guy asks on /r/sex if h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 03:25 AM
4	For all: which life would you choose by 40: slept with 500 men/women and no money and career, marry 1 man/woman and be a successful millionaire in your chosen field, or slept with around 20-30 m/w and I want to be a slut.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/15 03:08 AM
1	Empathy quiz 55 and I didn't know you could do a survey like this using google docs - very cool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 09:57 PM
13	How do you know if a guy is a slut? -if he tries to have sex straight away -if his friends are sleeping around -if he goes about without his shirt on -if he's so sexy, I automatically suspect sluttiness -if his shirt is too tight, forcing me to look at his abs -if he talks about sex -if he goes out too much instead of staying at home fixing things -if he does or says something I don't like -if I want him but he wants someone else that's not me -if I can't have sex with hot men but he can have sex with hot women -if his penis droop…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 09:36 PM
2	all women are not hypergamous; only women with less attractive/unsymmetrical boyfriends have a wandering eye Link me. To peer-reviewed science that is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 09:23 PM
7	CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind. Genetically all human beings are pretty fucking identical. Women even more so thanks to the presence of two X chromosomes rather than XY. What? WHAT???? Is this the kind of 'science' TRP espouses, or is this your personal opinion? I'm curious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 09:19 PM
3	CMV- AWALT is a ridiculous thing to say. Women are a population of over 3 billion people, not a hivemind. My sides... my sides.... I just had an 'interesting' discussion with ECoast_man, who assumed I must be a certain other person on reddit because our usernames are the same (except mine has an underscore) and he said the name was 'obscure'. I replied to say that if TRP knew anything about feminism, they'd know what petticoat rule was. There you go. I didn't see you stepping in to chide him for his lack of observance of the 'fundamental rules of debate'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 08:54 PM
2	all women are not hypergamous; only women with less attractive/unsymmetrical boyfriends have a wandering eye All women are not hypergamous; only women with less attractive/unsymmetrical boyfriends have a wandering eye Women appear to lose sexual interest in their SOs/husbands after a the first few years. That would cause them to look around. Link But most would choose family life over the alternative of leaving to find someone new. Women don't want to 'branch swing' to find someone more alpha/with better resources - they're just wanting that sexual excitement again. TRP doesn't get that at all. It woul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 08:43 PM
-1	Why do some redpillers avoid/dislike "sluts" (women who have sex with many men)? Please, no juvenile urban legend type reasons (her vagina loose, sloppy seconds, AIDS, etc...). Maybe if you stop using the term, these problems will go awy. Sorry, but I have to blame the source.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 08:28 PM
2	Why do some redpillers avoid/dislike "sluts" (women who have sex with many men)? Please, no juvenile urban legend type reasons (her vagina loose, sloppy seconds, AIDS, etc...). Yes they do. Red pill ideas - creating feminists out of young women everywhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 08:22 PM
1	Why do some redpillers avoid/dislike "sluts" (women who have sex with many men)? Please, no juvenile urban legend type reasons (her vagina loose, sloppy seconds, AIDS, etc...). I am that :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 08:20 PM
1	The damage of the cock carousel... Of course they don't see it that way (even - especially - those women who actually do settle), because this would require an amount of lucidity and self-awareness most people don't have - admitting that you screwed up and the ostensibly best man in your life is just a consolation prize? You must be joking. Instead they convince themselves that the poor guy is the best thing since sliced bread (at least for the time being) and rationalize their choices as something like "finally coming to their s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 08:17 PM
2	Why do you think women disdain low status men? True comments.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 08:03 PM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... I only read her last posts, but I remember her saying she doesn't like the term, 'rape culture'. Neither do I. 'Victim blaming' is real.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 08:01 PM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Bless you. Neither do I.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 07:58 PM
-1	is it beta to hit on women? Teenage girls show that times are changing and there isn't so much of a stigma about girls going after what they want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 07:58 PM
2	The damage of the cock carousel... Women don't marry because their value is declining. They don't see things in those terms at all. They marry because they're ready to or because they met someone who made them ready. You're somehow totally ignoring the possibilty of her having been rejected/dumped by stellar guys in her past, her having tanked good relationships because she thought she could do better Those things are possibilities. And it's true I ignored them. But I was talking about a woman who falls head-over-heels in love an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 01:22 PM
-2	is it beta to hit on women? You do care. It is relevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 01:09 PM
-3	is it beta to hit on women? Poor analogy, dude. A woman isn't playing a console game if she pulls a real live male out of her computer screen. And she selected and she made the initial choice. She dominated the situation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 01:08 PM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Sounds legit	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 11:54 AM
-2	is it beta to hit on women? I just asked my SO if he cares he was 'acted upon' when I approached him online. Uh, nope.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 11:52 AM
-2	is it beta to hit on women? Yeah but I still get to choose who I talk to. I'm not waiting passively to see who approaches me. Still makes me dominant in TRP theory. Doesn't matter where or how I do it. I'm still changing the dating dynamics, as are a lot of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 11:49 AM
-3	is it beta to hit on women? Women are mostly passive in dating/sex. Do you hang out with a lot of women? Teenage girls these days go after who they want unapologetically. Women might be reluctant to approach a guy at a bar, but they have no qualms with approaching men in online dating. ...in the real world it's like 95% dudes approaching chicks Considering how much dating is arranged online these days, TRP might need to update their outdated data. That's totally wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 11:42 AM
3	is it beta to hit on women? He seemed to have a mental illness. He did have Aspergers and maybe a social disorder. If he'd got a girlfriend, who knows? he might have killed her for not being the 'perfect pure woman' to his 'perfect gentleman' (he described himself as a perfect gentleman).	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 11:32 AM
-3	is it beta to hit on women? Ok, so when I've contacted men on dating sites, I'm the dominant ones and they're the submissives ones? If you wait for people to approach you, you don't get to choose who you talk to. If you have the balls ovaries to approach people, you decide who you talk to. I agree with this. Which is why internet dating is so damned good. I'm too shy in real life to approach men, but online, it's cool. Why should I have to choose only among the men who approach me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 11:28 AM
0	is it beta to hit on women? red pill goes on about how women throw themselves at alphas, so it seems like only guys that don't attract women would have to pursue/approach women. which brings up the question is hitting on, pursuing, approaching women, supplicating/beta behavior? That's interesting and can't just be dismissed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 11:24 AM
8	Why do some redpillers avoid/dislike "sluts" (women who have sex with many men)? Please, no juvenile urban legend type reasons (her vagina loose, sloppy seconds, AIDS, etc...). Sigh Why so many posts about sluts? I've never heard the word so much until PPD. Going to go hang out with the normal people for a while...	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 06:55 AM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... You're in luck - sounds like petticoatrule (the other one) is Canadian (at least, that's what I understood from one of the last of her posts). You two can swap notes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 06:49 AM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... ECoast_Man (with an underscore) gets drunk and starts flinging around wild accusations about double identities. ECoastMan (without an underscore) walks into the bar right at that moment... the room hushes in anticipation...	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 05:28 AM
2	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... If RP were familiar with feminism (which they're not) you'd know that when men were protesting giving the women the vote, they claimed that some places would be under 'petticoat rule' if women won. Any feminist worth her salt knows that ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 05:25 AM
3	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Says COPCO to anyone who'll listen. No one does, and COPCO, deprived of attention, ends up busking on a street corner and singing bad renditions of Kanye songs, before making zero dollars and going home, hat in hand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 05:17 AM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Finally! Fisticuffs!! Yes, that's what I was hoping for. Bring it on :D	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 05:14 AM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Ahhh no. No idea what article you're talking about and that other person is not me. Actually, just went to check out the no-underscore username. She sounds like me, only more kick-butt. I'm jealous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/01/15 05:13 AM
3	Why do you think women disdain low status men? This isn't my experience at all. It's expected that men will come up and talk to an attractive woman -women don't feel entitled to this, it's just what happens. She's not offended because she expects it to some degree. She doesn't lose any social points because everyone else expects it too. Logically, she can't talk with every guy - especially not if the end point for most of those guys is for her to go home with him and sleep with him. She also knows that many guys operate on a 'numbers' game a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 08:34 PM
9	Aren't women just people? I'm having trouble unpacking the question. On the one hand, you're saying 'why can't we treat women like people?' and on the other hand, you're saying AWALT (which means 'all women are like that' as far as I understand). 'People' are diverse with diverse thought-patterns and approaches to life. They can be can be selfish, entitled pricks and generous and altruistic and a million other things. So, if women are people, they are this. If AWALT, then women are some kind of pre-programmed robots.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 08:10 PM
6	A little thought experiment on the whole "men=studs, women=sluts" debate. Now let's say we have a black man who was born into a very poor family who is also working at the same business as a financial analyst and making a lot of money. I'd say he's doing very well for himself. Now, the guy who PUA'd his way into having sex with 50 women? Not so much. He has absolutely ZILCH to show for it. No money, no prestige, nada. Totally unimpressive by most people's standards. Let's say we have a white man born into a wealthy family that ends up as a financial analyst at success…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 07:33 AM
3	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... ...said ppd-tw to the police later that night. They scoffed in disbelief, and locked ppd-tw in the slammer despite all the protestations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 07:18 AM
2	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Once that starts playing, everyone at the bar puts down their drinks and starts playing air guitar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 07:14 AM
3	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... HHL starts partying like it's 1989. Refuses to allow the band to play any cover song past that year.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 07:11 AM
3	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Until the karaoke started. Suddenly everyone thought they were good enough to audition for The Voice. Things got ugly from there...	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 07:09 AM
2	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... bakerofpie spends the night in the tiny, hot kitchen, whipping up cakes and pies and handing out slices to everyone. Ends the night exhausted, wishing she sat at the bar having whiskey shots instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 07:05 AM
2	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... plot twist. Buartha discovers a horrifying item belonging to one of the PPD members in his pocket the next morning. He still hasn't been able to bring himself to talk about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 06:51 AM
3	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... redpilltom leaves in a huff, claiming the talk is below his standard and contains too many Star Trek references. The PPD mods stop him at the door and deny him exit, telling him that once entered, he can never leave....	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 06:47 AM
1	You walk into a local bar on a Friday night and all the PPD regulars are there ... Mistress Natalie herds the boredom-inducing bar-goers into an inpromptu game of paintball out in a back alley. The night hangs with a slick of rain as pellets fly thick and fast - catching the thick members of the PPD quicker than the fast ones. What were their usernames? No one knows, due to the various states of inebriation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 06:39 AM
1	I am opposed to a 50 year old man dating a 25 year old man. How about you? Man/man, woman/woman, man/woman - and consenting - means I am not opposed in any way, shape or form.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/15 01:02 AM
2	The damage of the cock carousel... Marriage and commitment isn't for everyone. If you realize it isn't, and you steer well away, I respect that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 10:00 PM
3	At what point did you realize that you were beta? Ok. You snicker, but the mirth dies in your throat like ashes. The voices return... Howzat?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 09:55 PM
4	At what point did you realize that you were beta? Can you hear it? The deep, masculine, mocking, somewhat chilling voice winding through your ears ... "You'll never be an alpha ...." You hear it in the dead of the night (after you've shut down your computer for the night and typed up your last alpha-as-shit response in TRP and you're in bed). You open the closet ... but no one's there ... Just the dirty socks you forgot to wash... You wonder if while you were in TRP getting fistbumps because you said you negged or applied some dread game to som…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 09:26 PM
0	what terms does red pill use to delineate a sexually/physically attractive male with a desirable personality from a sexually/physically attractive male with an undesirable personality? A DH (does housework) kind of guy with a BC (big cock) is ACDC (alpha cool desirable characteristics) and electrifying in bed. I hope that helps sort things out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 08:58 PM
2	Discussion: Why Taking A Cock Other than Mine, and Particularly Larger than Mine, Will Ruin You Forever Cool bananas :D	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 01:42 PM
3	The damage of the cock carousel... Fun/sex/fun/sex/fun/sex... Then she meets someone who's more than just fun and sex, but someone she wants to get serious with. He blows the memories of every other guy out of the water. She's in love. He made her ready for marriage and commitment for the first time in her life. How does any husband compare with the rush and excitement of sex for the first time at age eighteen with an eighteen year old guy? He can't compare. He can't be eighteen again. He can't go back in time and be with his wif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 01:35 PM
4	Slut shaming is at its core anti-male. Men who use the word 'slut' are disgusted by penises. Penises are kind of like this weird, ugly tail of an elephant attached to their crotches. These men can't bear that women see too many penises, lest the women have lasting nightmares and refuse to allow a man to take his pants off in their company ever again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 01:11 PM
3	Discussion: Why Taking A Cock Other than Mine, and Particularly Larger than Mine, Will Ruin You Forever ....12" monster dongs Sorry, my mind wandered after reading that bit... Was there anything else to this post?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 01:05 PM
2	The Sexodus is BAD for women. Both anecdotes and hard data show this. If you're a heterosexual woman who values long term relationships/marriage, you should be against the blue pill view of the world. Say what? I meant friendly games and team sports - yes there's a competitive element, but with an emphasis on challenging yourself, working in a team, getting exercise, having fun.... all kids included. I'm unsure how you got 'mortal combat' out of 'physical competition'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 12:58 PM
4	The Sexodus is BAD for women. Both anecdotes and hard data show this. If you're a heterosexual woman who values long term relationships/marriage, you should be against the blue pill view of the world. It has everything to do with feminism. I spoke about the collapse of the manufacturing industries. You went on to speak about other things entirely. 1) The college gender gap is at all time highs True 2) Public schools are dominated by women, there are very few male teachers/male role models. So women hold boys to girl standards. Male teachers teach the same way as female teachers and teach the same things and hold students to the same standards. Schools aren't dominated by women. Men just don't…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/15 01:53 AM
10	The Sexodus is BAD for women. Both anecdotes and hard data show this. If you're a heterosexual woman who values long term relationships/marriage, you should be against the blue pill view of the world. The actual research article is interesting: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/04/19/a-gender-reversal-on-career-aspirations/?src=prc-headline The quotes from the article are just anecdote after anecdote and I see them as irrelevant. Collapse of male-dominated industries such as manufacturing aren't anything to do with feminists and why so many men can't find work.I see it as a tragic consequence of advances in technology. I agree that women see it as important that their marriage partner have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/15 10:41 PM
1	Question for both: what do you think of women who didn't ride the carousel in college and their 20's and married later? Do you think they wasted their youth? Should have they gained more "life experie It depends on what people want and what will make them happy. She might have traveled an done things she couldn't have done if married. Marriage can be a waste of youth if the person feels restrained. She might also have a much better idea of the kind of man she wants when she's 30 or older than she when she was 23, and therefore have a happier marriage. If 'not riding the cock carousel' means not having sex with men, then whether she wasted the potential to do so depends on whether she didn't d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/15 09:30 PM
2	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? Lighten up :) When two sides disagree, they simply disagree. This is a debate, right? The hamstering thing is cute but doesn't really belong in a debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/15 08:28 PM
2	What is the explanation for the much higher incarceration rates for men? I seen with feminists and liberals alike that as people we are all inherently the same so positions in our society should reflect that. Feminism doesn't say we're all inherently the same but that all facets of society should be represented. We all have biases and filters, and we shouldn't have all of one type of group representing, being given opportunities and making decisions for all the different groups within a society. My question is, how do feminists go about explaining the incarceration r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/15 01:23 PM
2	My Final Debate: TRP, TBP: Why is feminism such a bad thing for men? Why is it getting such a bad rap, why is such a hot button now? Feminism is irrelevant unless it works toward the ability for both men and women to achieve their personal potential in life. The only way to move forward is if we all do. I don't think feminism enables men to be 'less masculine' but to define masculinity in any way they choose. Men can be what they want, same as women (within reason - causing harm to others is out, naturally). And yes I agree that feminism is not about stopping anyone from living a traditional life if they choose. I think femin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/15 12:05 PM
2	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? Ah, thanks for the explanation. In that case, each of us thinks the other is hamstering ;)	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/15 11:23 AM
5	What does PPD make of this? Testosterone administration impairs cognitive empathy in women Testosterone administration impairs cognitive empathy in women. That isn't what the research paper you linked to said at all. It said that it significantly decreased cognitive empathic ability in women who underwent fetal testosterone priming but not in those women who didn't. The women who underwent the priming already had brains that were more 'male' than the average woman. Read this, from the same paper: The group effect of testosterone administration on cognitive empathy varies strongly acco…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/15 11:13 AM
1	If not anger, what emotion should a man display after discovering that he has been lied to about the true nature of women his entire life? That's not a question. That's a statement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/15 10:04 AM
1	CMV: The Male Sexodus is Good for Women Hasn't the sexodus already happened in Japan? Both men and women are removing themselves from the dating pool. EDIT: This was already spoken of below - just read the oldest comments. If men have a sexodus, women will have a sexodus and then the economy will suffer. But ... economies are already suffering and going into finiancial crisis without sexoduses. This system of pumping out babies who will grow into adults that will carry the old on their shoulders is fragile.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 11:41 PM
2	Are women attracted to money/power/status, more so than men are? What we've personally seen helps form our opinions. I see loads of good-looking men with women I consider not pretty at all. I think men have a much wider scope of what is attractive. But when you look at the broad picture, it's obvious that both men and women are attracted to the best looking of the human species. Women don't 'care less' about physicality. Some will settle to gain money and status, but if was a choice between two men of equal income and status and both with good personalities, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 10:49 PM
3	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? Men can give stuff to get sex from prostitutes. In the end, it's cheaper. They're looking for human interaction on an equal basis if they seek sex or a relationship with a woman, where she is not paid. They're looking to 'have' sex, not 'get' sex. What is hamstering? I've seen it thrown about. I just don't understand it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 10:39 PM
2	What is your opinion on the Kaley Cuoco feminism debate? Feminism is an examination of the constructs of gender roles and inequalities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 10:32 PM
1	The existence of the BluePill subreddit PUAHate was seen as red pill. They had their own 'scientific' theories on women and why women 'are they way they are' which goes way beyond the surface PUA stuff (just like TRP). They rejected PUA, not red pill. Ridger was already damaged and angry, with deep issues, when he arrived at Reddit. I agree with your statement - despair can make someone dangerous, and usually to thenmselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 10:27 PM
-1	The existence of the BluePill subreddit Why does everyone forget that Rodger hated TRP? "I’m the perfect guy, and yet you throw yourselves at all these obnoxious men, instead of me, the supreme gentleman" is blue pill nice guy turned up to eleven. No, he was someone who was unable to form connections. He had Aspergers, which made things even more difficult for him. Then he found TRP-type forums and most probably basked in the anger he found there. In his last words, he spouted the kind of red pill anger that red pill allows to run ram…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 01:02 PM
1	The existence of the BluePill subreddit Extremist thinking creates an opposite reaction. The more red pill type ideas get out there, the more opposite reaction will be created. When women realize how much certain groups of men hate them, it creates fear they'll be hurt/ killed/ raped. Blue pill is a reaction to red pill. Just like the suffragette movement created opposite reaction in some men - who worried they'd lose positions of power etc (and in some women, who worried they'd lose their domestic roles etc).	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 12:44 PM
3	Is TRP really about gaining power over others? It turns out, when you shelve all the PC feminist bullshit, that women are into some really really dark stuff. I mean like bondage dominance stuff. Like "Imma gonna fuck other girls and you can lick my dick after I'm finished" dread games. The thing that made one girl approach me was in her honest and ashamed words "the psychopathic look in my eyes" - and this wasn't some blond airhead bimbo, this is the sweetest and smartest and most caring and perfect woman I know. It is just so fucking dark a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 12:35 PM
4	For Blue Pillers: What leads TBP to conclude that sex is NOT something that men "get" from women? What in tarnation? You can't 'get' sex if sex is something two people do together. You CAN get sexual services, but those are a different thing altogether. The other person doesn't really want to have sex with you and they're only doing it because you're paying them. If you 'get' a massage, do you expect to be massaging the other person at the same time? No? If you do 'mutual massage' do you expect to be massaging the other person at the same time? Both giving and getting? Yes? Lastly, if women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 12:27 PM
2	[Discussion] Video : Girls, If You're Physically Unavailable I'm emotionally Unavailable. I agree with every word that man said. Also: he's extremely cute.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 11:46 AM
8	Are women attracted to money/power/status, more so than men are? Put a positive spin on it, and I guarantee the vast majority of both sides will suddenly agree: Women care less about physicality. Oh wow, wrong, wrong, wrong. Women care a great deal more than men. Men seem to think a huge variety of women are hot, whereas women are far less forgiving when it comes to men. Whether consciously or unconsciously: Women want the best looking men (even features indicate good health) with the best body (indicates health. Also strong enough to protect her and offsprin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 11:32 AM
2	What is your opinion on the Kaley Cuoco feminism debate? How do you feel about Kaley's initial comments? Her comments are fine. Being traditional is fine. She doesn't understand what feminism is, but a lot of women don't, and she shouldn't be criticized for that. How do you feel about the Twitter backlash? Let's examine the 'backlash'. The worst word I saw was 'disappointed'. Hmmm, none of that "gonna rape that bitch, rape her first-born, murder that slut, tits or get out, needs a bullet in her head" kind of stuff that is fired at women who state a fe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/15 11:06 AM