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| 2 | Does AWALT really mean AWALT, or are we talking mostly about American and European women?IMO one should consider AWALT a warning rather than a law of nature per se. It means there is no way to assign a reliable probability to a woman becoming detrimental to your well being. The prevailing thought among men has been that you can identify characteristics that make a woman "low risk." i.e. Educated, Christian, Asian or Eastern European, grew up in a stable family, good with kids, likes sports, likes video games, likes housework, etc. etc. etc. Then MGTOW shared their stories and found … | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/07/21 03:44 PM |
| 18 | Does society prefer us dead?Some of us, definitely. The question is, what are you contributing to society if you have chosen not to provide for a woman and her children? MGTOW who work only hard enough to support their own lifestyle are at best a wash. Some MGTOW of course are still motivated to work hard, invest, and contribute to their communities, so they may still be useful, but in either case MGTOW are an example to other men that they might be better off opting out of their role as providers for women and the next ge… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/02/21 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Question about MGTOWwomen that did treat him like an equal and loved him for him and not just what he could give her a Most of the men here who came from broken relationships or marriages thought this exact thing about the woman they were with at one point. Or am i misconstruing/missing the bigger picture of the group? The bigger picture is that if you are interested in pursuing women and marriage, there are countless avenues available to you for engaging in and discussing that pursuit. The entire world expects you… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/02/21 09:39 PM |
| 1 | My Whole Perspective of Marriage and Relationships are ChangingOne of the outrageous things I've learned about marriage is that women will tell you that it's about security, implying that you will abandon them and their kids to pursue your own personal satisfaction, when in fact they're taking out a put option on their own behavior. In the last relationship I ever had, we had been together for just over a year, although because of work we lived a couple hours apart at the time the following happened. She brought up marriage, and I told her that I had no rea… | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/04/20 10:13 AM |
| 4 | Relationship w/ mother on pause— thoughts?When I was in college I had to cut myself off from my mother because she and her side of the family kept turning to me to whenever she had a crisis. I was getting calls at 2 AM begging me to come to the hospital because she tried to kill herself again, and finally I decided that at my age, in my situation, that wasn't my responsibility. I had my own life to live. I stopped answering the phone calls and listening to her voicemails, calling her for any reason, showing up at family gatherings on he… | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/03/20 09:14 PM |
| 1 | A couple questions about MGTOWKeep in mind that this particular sub is somewhat of an anomaly among online MGTOW communities. Many here are MGTOW who got rejected from, or don't want to be a part of, other MGTOW communities. Consequently, the opinions you will find here tend to be a lot more diverse than you will find elsewhere. RE: gay MGTOW I had a roommate who was gay. The observations he made about female behavior twenty years ago are many of the same observations MGTOW make today. Coupled with the fact that he has had t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/03/20 01:16 AM |
| 1 | [SERIOUS QUESTION] Is hypergamy real?It must be the loyalty gene in our Y chromosome. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/12/19 04:35 AM |
| 2 | [SERIOUS QUESTION] Is hypergamy real?Yes. But there are quite a few men who seem to get caught up in the idea that hypergamy is basically the start and end of the discussion when it comes to female behavior. I consider the dual-mating paradigm (AF/BB) to be no less important, for example. Hypergamy may exist within each component AF and BB, but an AF can have potentially zero worth as a provider of resources, and a BB zero worth as a provider of sexual validation and genetic material. There's also the uncomfortable truth that anoth… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/11/19 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Why do we need MGTOW ?MGTOW is a repository of information and shared experiences that allows men to make more informed decisions about their personal well-being. It's needed because society, in an effort to protect and promote the interests of women (either deliberately or as part of a mating strategy), attempts to hide the negative impact women and marriage can have on men's well-being. In a world that attempts to isolate men and blame them for the destructive choices of the women in their lives, MGTOW tells men "Y… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/11/19 07:12 AM |
| 1 | What's your guys estimate on how many men are mgtow?Maybe a half million men around the world who truly live MGTOW, some that know what it is but a larger number who don't. There are a much larger number of men who are not MGTOW, but might look like a MGTOW to an observer. These include: (1) Men who have figured out that they have low SMV and are working on increasing it, potentially for many years, before pursuing a committed relationship. (2) Men who have figured out that they have low SMV but have come to understand that they will never be "go… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/10/19 04:10 PM |
| 1 | A question about hypergamy and female behavior.I don't think men and women are really as different as we want to believe. We would both pursue our biological imperative in the absence of other incentives/disincentives. The incentives/disincentives that used to encourage women to act against their nature have been largely removed, while those men face have not. If maintaining a relationship with attractive women were not so expensive, and divorce were not so costly, and men were not stigmatized for failing to provide and protect, we'd see men… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/06/19 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Just banned from r/MGTOW for condemning vandalism.I appear to have gotten banned for mentioning in a thread about Bill Cosby being #metoo'd that he had admitted to giving women drugs in order to have sex with them and that we shouldn't defend bad men just because they're men. We should strive to be better than women, who regularly try to justify their own sex's bad behavior, not stoop to their level. Unfortunately, MGTOW has collectively defined morality as all men = all good, all women = all evil. Acknowledging that some men do bad things and … | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/10/18 06:44 AM |
| 3 | I got a question...Think of MGTOW forums and youtube channels as a repository for information you either won't find or is rejected elsewhere. It offers the "other side" of the relationship story, based on the experiences and observations of tens of thousands of men. What you choose to do with that information is up to you, but I would like to think making a more informed decision is almost always preferable. When you buy a house, it would be foolish to only listen to the bullshit the realtor feeds you about how pe… | /r/MGTOW | 25/09/18 06:45 PM |
| 4 | Truer words have never been spokenHer position on father's rights was admirable, but as the leader of the most powerful feminist organization in the world, she caused a lot of damage too. | /r/MGTOW | 24/09/18 07:23 AM |
| 5 | 2018 folks'It reads like an advertisement for this woman's erotic novel being presented as non-fiction, which Jezebel and Cosmo were happy to run with because it promotes both "all men are evil," and "incest is natural." Having a sexual relationship with her dad would, while horrible, not really be interesting enough to sell books. Instead, everything about her story is over the top: Her dad is from Jamaica and ran when he found out he got her lesbian mother pregnant. It appears her lesbian parents tried… | /r/MGTOW | 23/09/18 07:23 AM |
| 0 | Not every man in here desires peace, freedom and solitude.Didn't post it, but I had written out something similar for another thread last night. "Many MGTOW would love to go back to the plantation, if only our slavemasters would say, 'Please' and, 'Thank you,' and not whip us so hard when we step out of line. Maybe reward us with a piece of pumpkin pie once in awhile." "I know I'm in a minority for believing this, but feminism set us free. I would never trade the life I have for what my grandfathers had. You can shackle a woman to the kitchen sink, but… | /r/MGTOW | 16/09/18 11:46 AM |
| 1 | Should I feel guilty for just wanting sex and not a relationship ?No. I was doing the exercises in the No More Mr. Nice Guy book, and I realized this about myself also. Except that for many years I chose the opposite from you. I fell prey to guilt and shame. I did definitely also want to find someone I could love and share my life with, but there were many many girls I came across that I would have liked to have just sex with. Many I even turned down when I had the chance. I spent much of my life feeling ashamed about what I wanted and trying to hide this side… | /r/MGTOW | 15/09/18 02:45 AM |
| 13 | MGTOW is not a movementI think it's maybe more accurate to say that MGTOW is not a socio-political movement like feminism or the Civil Rights Movement. However, in the sense that the Enlightenment, Renaissance, Clacissicism, or Romanticism were movements, MGTOW probably qualifies at this point. It represents a growing shift in the way men think, about women, relationships, the pursuit of happiness, and the laws that govern them. That is a movement; an intellectual and philosophical one. Unfortunatley, because the worl… | /r/MGTOW | 14/09/18 12:57 AM |
| 3 | How do you GYOW when already married with kid(s)?You don't. A husband has to balance is own needs and desires with the needs and desires of his wife and children. That precludes a married man from going his own way in the sense that a true MGTOW would. Were you to try to live like me, for example, there would be severe consequences. You would not stay married long. Everyone you know would blame you for being selfish and ruining your marriage. You would lose regular access to your son. You may be saddled with financial obligations that woul… | /r/MGTOW | 10/09/18 09:49 PM |
| 8 | Dear fellow millennials, marrying at 22 is the best decision I ever madeEr, "Best decision I ever made?" This guy got married literally two months ago. And USA Today published this... When I was 22, I was going to ask my girlfriend to marry me after graduation. When I brought it up, she told me that the older guy she had told me for over two years was "just a close family friend" was actually her other boyfriend, and by then her fiance. | /r/MGTOW | 08/09/18 09:42 PM |
| 3 | Is the pendulum reaching the end of its swing?I doubt it. Women and their male allies will eventually double down: Dissent is obviously the result of toxic masculinity running rampant, so we must pass more laws, spend more money, mandate more education, and increase the punishments until men are brought to heel! The election of Donald Trump in the USA bought us a temporary reprieve, because so much attention is being devoted to bringing him down, but it won't last forever. The immigrant crisis in Europe has played its part too. When Tru… | /r/MGTOW | 07/09/18 12:21 PM |
| 5 | Baby boy dies of herpes at 10 days old because mother is a slut..Of course the story is written from the perspective that the mother is the real victim here. Yes, let's all give our sympathy to someone who made terrible choices and got a baby killed. Maybe start a GoFundMe to pay for her medical bills and all the baby gear she bought. Screw this world. | /r/MGTOW | 01/09/18 03:59 AM |
| 12 | Can somebody explain like I'm five the difference between trying to change the system and MGTOW?You sit down to play Monopoly with two other boys and a girl. The girl insists that you play with special house rules: (1) Every time you pass Go, instead of collecting $200, you must give $500 to her. If at any time you do not have $500 in cash, you must sell improvements and/or mortgage your properties until you have enough to make the payment. If you still do not have enough, you go directly to Jail. (2) If she lands on Free Parking, any player she chooses must transfer half of his cash and a… | /r/MGTOW | 20/08/18 03:27 AM |
| 2 | Dear Incels...When MGTOW hate on incels, it is being directed at those who come here making posts that encourage self-loathing and the punishment of women and attractive men. It has nothing to do with hating on you because women don't want to have sex with you. So drop the victim bullshit. This is a MGTOW community. We want men to love themselves, so that they don't need validation from women or anyone else. I'm sorry that you incels don't have a place to wallow in your anger and despair, but you lost it on m… | /r/MGTOW | 16/08/18 09:53 AM |
| 2 | 300m view on Athens, from Mount Lycabettus. BreathtakingI love views like this in general, but this is doubly cool when considering that 2,500 years ago men who walked on this same land were laying the groundwork for the way we think about the world and our place in it today. Somewhere in the city below Plato told the Allegory of the Cave, the philosophical foundation for concepts like the Matrix and the red pill, for the first time. Forget selfies in front of landmarks posted on Facebook, the feeling that leads one to take a picture like this is why… | /r/MGTOW | 10/08/18 08:12 PM |
| 11 | Has hell frozen over?!?I hope that boy gets whatever caused him to jump off an overpass sorted out. Sounds like he'll have another chance at life thanks to this woman. Props to her. | /r/MGTOW | 06/08/18 11:35 PM |
| 158 | NYT lets Sarah Keep her Job (after being the force that got Roseann fired)... calling it "Counter-Trolling"Better to know your enemey and look them in the eye than have them holding a dagger behind your back. Sarah is a mouthpiece for Asian-American women under 40. She's telling us what many of them think but won't say because their parents raised them to keep their head down and not rock the boat. Some men still need to be awakened to the fact that Asian women are not special, so I'm fine with this. There are no NAWALTS. And it's not like the Times was worth reading before hiring her anyway. Disclos… | /r/MGTOW | 06/08/18 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Fucking pink really?In recent years MLB actually has done light blue for prostate cancer awareness on Fathers Day. https://www.mlb.com/cut4/this\-is\-how\-mlb\-celebrated\-fathers\-day\-2016/c\-184989632 https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb\-goes\-blue\-for\-prostate\-cancer\-awareness/c\-237105660 https://www.pcf.org/c/prostate\-cancer\-foundation\-and\-major\-league\-baseball\-team\-up\-against\-prostate\-cancer/ As far as I am aware, they are the only major professional sports league that has a prostate cancer awareness… | /r/MGTOW | 14/05/18 12:47 AM |
| 6 | What things do you do that would turn OFF girls in an instant if they found out?I drive a 1996 Honda Accord. | /r/MGTOW | 27/01/18 06:33 AM |
| 6 | When a cunt promises she(fucken liar) will be there for you she wont the moment you lost your job.In my professional experience this applies even to extremely wealthy men who can afford to not work. There's something at play that supersedes even financial resources. Women can never go back. They climb up the ladder and kick out every rung beneath them. We generally think of hypergamy as something relative, but there is a component that is truly absolute. Three of my male coworkers are in their mid 70s. All of them could have retired and spent the last 10 years sailing the world on a private … | /r/MGTOW | 04/01/18 07:36 AM |
| 3 | I've got a problem regarding my faith.This is a repost from a reply I gave to someone else questioning whether his faith was compatible with MGTOW: Faith can fill a need many people have, either temporarily or over the course of their entire lives. Nothing wrong with that. I'm reminded of a couple I knew who lost their 2-year-old son to an extremely rare disease. Their faith helped them come to terms with their loss and continue being active in the community. In the end, both they and many other people benefited. Too many people are… | /r/MGTOW | 31/12/17 05:43 PM |
| 7 | Looking for advice on becoming MGTOWConsider what it would mean to be the best version of yourself, in your own eyes. What do you like about yourself? Forget what society or women value. They don't matter. Do you like that you are good video game player, a nice guy, are knowledgeable about dinosaurs? Cultivate those things. Not so that other people will like you, but so that you learn to appreciate the person that you are. Accept that there are things you cannot change. We cannot change our height. We cannot prevent women from bei… | /r/MGTOW | 23/12/17 07:44 PM |
| 26 | Although this is often the final stage of any modern relationshipThis guy would have taken a dump on MGTOW when he could say he was married. Probably still would if you offered him a handful of red pills. We're all just too immature and hateful to understand women and marriage on the level he does. Men like him deserve zero sympathy. I say this as a man who has been cuckolded and tolerated it because I had it in my head that my self-worth depended entirely on being a woman's boyfriend/husband. She too left me for one of her "bulls." It is within every man's p… | /r/MGTOW | 17/12/17 07:59 PM |
| 26 | Anon on how, without a Carrot for men to follow, society dies.I am more or less in agreement with this, but I don't think women have changed in any fundamental way. They simply have greater opportunity -- and social and legal backing -- to act in accordance with their nature. But certainly for a society to grow and advance, it needs its men to be invested in its future. Our forefathers figured this out millennia ago. The "common man" will not spend all day working the fields or charge an enemy phalanx if they are not given an incentive to do so. Enforced m… | /r/MGTOW | 17/12/17 07:08 PM |
| 7 | I’m honestly not surprised by this anymoreHaha. Reminds me of a time a buddy's friend (a legit Chad) and I were in an elevator and two really hot girls said they would make out if we paid them. When we left the elevator I turned around, gave them a smile, and told them, "Why would we pay you? The last two girls we ran into did it for free." Which was the truth; literally three minutes earlier two girls made out in front of us in the parking lot for nothing but some casual attention from Chad and I suppose the hope of something more. | /r/MGTOW | 08/12/17 03:34 AM |
| 2 | Do you guys still listen to love songs despite being MGTOW? Why?For sure. I also listen to rap, even though I'm a suburban white dude. For one thing, I think one can appreciate the craftsmanship of a song without having a personal investment in it. However, we also often connect music to memories that evoke emotions we enjoy feeling. I say "enjoy," but that can really apply to the full range of human emotions. Because acknowledging anger, sadness, loneliness, heartbreak, etc. is also a part of acknowledging the things that made us who we are today. If you li… | /r/MGTOW | 08/12/17 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Can you believe in God or higher power and be MGTOW? Also, are there any other "Believers" out there?Faith can fill a need many people have, either temporarily or over the course of their entire lives. Nothing wrong with that. I'm reminded of a couple I know personally who lost their 2-year-old son to an extremely rare disease. Their faith helped them come to terms with their loss and continue being active in the community. In the end, both they and many other people benefited. Too many people are concerned about being "right," and not enough about every individual figuring out what's right for… | /r/MGTOW | 05/12/17 02:51 AM |
| 9 | How many false accusers do you know of personally?When I was a kid my father cheated on my mother, so she tried to get back at him by falsely accusing him of sexually abusing my sister and me. Child Services got involved and tried to use leading questions to get us to say things that weren't true. Those people are the worst scum on the planet and I do not feel the least bit bad saying they deserve to die horrible deaths. Nothing happened to my mother of course. The whole thing was just dropped. My father actually stayed with her, I now realize … | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/17 07:45 AM |
| 4 | Schools in Germany Have Resorted to "Renting" Male Teachers.We are a society that celebrates every study and statistic that shows girls are doing better than boys in school, and laments every one that shows boys are doing better than girls. Does anybody really believe that boys succeeding in the classroom because they now have a positive male role model will be acceptable to these people? The push for more male teachers isn't about the ideas, perspectives, or skills a male brings to the classroom, and certainly not about ideas, perspectives, or skills th… | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/17 03:48 PM |
| 6 | Ester Vilar, *The Manipulated Man* (1972), the O.G. red pillVilar wrote at a time before the sexual liberation of women had exposed 80/20 and AF/BB. That's one of the shortcomings of The Manipulated Man. Otherwise much of it informs the same red pill theory MGTOW stand by today. She deserves recognition for her contributions IMO. Writing that book required an incredible amount of introspection and intellectual honesty. Things most women are not capable of. | /r/MGTOW | 28/11/17 04:13 PM |
| 5 | It's all Mens fault that Women don't play football or write articles about football in the media...This article applies specifically to the UK, and perhaps Europe. I can't answer for other places, but I do know there's a huge difference in opportunity between the United States and most of the rest of the world when it comes to female sports. Many girls play team sports in the United States. Almost every middle school has a girls basketball team, and many have one for each grade 6 through 8. Practically every high school has at least a varsity team, and many have freshman, and sophomore teams … | /r/MGTOW | 28/11/17 03:28 PM |
| 11 | Omg! I have found my NAWALT! (Sarcasm intended)This young woman should be commended. This is a great example of how women can use the power they don't realize they have to do good in the world. You know, instead of those cam girls who spend their Patreon donations on makeup, plastic surgery, and trips to Abu Dhabi. Incidentally, as OP sorta suggested in the title, AWALT gets misunderstood and misused in the sense that it doesn't really mean that "All women always act the same way," or "All women are out to get men." It's meant to be about wo… | /r/MGTOW | 24/11/17 07:18 AM |
| 4 | What are your thoughts on homosexuality?No problem with it. I was taught that homosexuality is offensive to God, but I am no longer religious. From a MGTOW perspective, a gay man is still a man. When you choose to not let the approval of women define manhood, you can see that quite clearly. I did twice have sickos try to sexually assault me in a Port Authority restroom, but I don't hold it against gay men in general. I had a gay roommate in college. He was a good guy who, quite logically, liked guy things. He was big into aviation and… | /r/MGTOW | 23/11/17 05:44 PM |
| 4 | Worst deal of the centuryCertainly some red pills in there, but this is not really about anyone's assessment of the value of this chick or her pussy. It's about rich dudes competing with each other to show they have more money to throw away. It registers as news because a woman was involved. If it were a rare sports car nobody outside of sports car enthusiasts would care. Most Arab businessmen who can afford to spend $3 million on a prostitute can get pussy all day for free. | /r/MGTOW | 22/11/17 06:38 PM |
| 17 | Google Trends shows MGTOW is on the rise.I find the geographic growth even more interesting than the volume. Just a year ago MGTOW searches were pretty much limited to the Anglosphere. Now the term registers basically everywhere except the Muslim world (stuck in gynocentric patriarchy), China (censorship), and dirt poor countries. Trinidad & Tobago a MGOTW hotbed? Who knew?! Japan is an interesting anomaly given that we know a significant portion of their male population are their version of MGTOW, but they also have an established ter… | /r/MGTOW | 20/11/17 01:44 AM |
| 22 | A woman stood for 6 hours and let people do what they wanted to her body. She left objects 50+ objects on the table which ranged from pleasure to destruction to be used on her.This work reveals something terrible about humanity. It shows how fast a person can hurt you under favorable circumstances It shows how easy it is to dehumanize a person who does not fight, who does not defend himself. Laugh at the outcome of her experiment if you will, but her comment above is an important lesson for men too. Society does put women in favorable circumstances, and it does teach men not to defend themselves. Not all abuses are physical. Some of the wounds men suffer, such as havi… | /r/MGTOW | 19/11/17 06:24 PM |
| 9 | Doing large favors for people, how would you (or wouldn't) respond, and handling toxic shame.Helping people move sucks, particularly in the big city. You suck it up for each of your bros -- once -- because you know that one day they will do something that sucks for you in return. This girl won't. They never do. At least, that was my experience from my blue pill days when I didn't know how to say "no" to a girl. Just straight up tell her that helping people move sucks and sorry, but you're not going to do it unless you get paid (or even leave off the last part if you want). Your male fri… | /r/MGTOW | 19/11/17 04:37 PM |
| 5 | Patriarchy is real! | Blind recruitment trial to boost gender equality making things worse, study revealsI find it interesting that Dr. Michael Hiscox, who thought he was so smart he just knew he would prove the patriarchy is holding women back, refuses to acknowledge that quality male workers are the ones actually being discriminated against by current hiring practices and that this might also be a problem. In fact, he advocated a return to the status quo, so that women would continue to be given opportunities over more-deserving male candidates. On next week's episode of 'The PhD After My Name Me… | /r/MGTOW | 15/07/17 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Cassidy Boon Sues Man Who Saved Her From Drowning For RapeAs originally reported by The Stately Harold and now in the Portly Gazelle. The Stately Harold is a satirical website. None of the stories have a grain of truth to them and the opinions do not belong to real people. All stories on this site are satire and the opinions expressed do not belong to any real people. If persons appear in the picture they have nothing to do with the story. (The Portly Gazelle) Cassidy Boon is a troll. She was a regular contributor to The Stately Harold with articles su… | /r/MGTOW | 19/06/17 02:29 PM |
| 3 | 1 year agoCheers. MGTOW can arm you with information, but ultimately you were the one that made the choice to seek a better life for yourself than the one society wanted for you. Good on you. It is unfortunate that many of us have to lump family in with "society," but that is all part of the trap you have escaped. I'm sure it has helped give you insight into why it can be so difficult for men to take the path that you did, despite it leading to a better life. Enjoy your freedom. | /r/MGTOW | 17/06/17 02:03 AM |
| 6 | Is there a graphical representation of subscribers over time for this subreddit?http://redditmetrics.com/r/MGTOW | /r/MGTOW | 16/06/17 05:10 AM |
| 5 | Why do men "vote" against their own interests?I think it's more general than trying to get laid. Whether or not there is a biological component, we are certainly raised from birth to seek the approval of women, starting with our mothers (increasingly so in a world where single motherhood is so prevalent) and teachers, then moving on to potential mates, perhaps even the HR staff and lower management that serves as the gatekeepers to career success in the corporate world. Our mothers and teachers generally reward us with praise for behaving l… | /r/MGTOW | 03/06/17 06:07 PM |
| 11 | Any experiences with high-earning "career" women?AWALT. It doesn't matter how rich or poor or light-skinned or dark-skinned or smart or dumb or lazy or motivated. The women I have dated and lived with were what would be considered successful career women. I think my blue pill self saw this as a means of proving how enlightened I was. Two of them were also raised in cultures that many men seem to think produce higher quality mates. Yet, I am still here, just like all the guys who dated trash or have never had a woman interested in them. You wil… | /r/MGTOW | 02/04/17 07:25 PM |
| 4 | What is the whiniest beta cuck song ever recorded?"Everything I Do (I Do It for You)" by Bryan Adams immediately came to mind. | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/17 07:32 AM |
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