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This. Nothing TRP says is new. Their ideas have been around for a while, they have just been rewrapped to fit the era. Really? A movement exposing women as dangerous/fucked up is kinda novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 02:53 PM
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Hetero men need women more than hetero women need men. Only on a short term basis. It's women who push/nag/beg for marriage. And it's the reason why feminists hate trp/mrm/mgtow, if marriage gets exposed as a bad deal, it hurts women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 02:50 PM
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Here's a good litmus test: A BPer would watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3BL6pbP7FM And cheer on the feminists as being logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:59 PM
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Why on earth would alphas give up sex? You can hurt women more by withholding commitment, and that's sort of what's going on right now with men opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 12:00 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2ok5xg/do_you_think_women_have_it_better_in_the_dating/ Gottlieb: ... I did talk to hundreds of men and women, single and married, for this book, in addition to the researchers and scientists. Talking to men was eye-opening. Men and women were asked, if they [had] any deal-breakers for going on a second date, what would those be? And men named three. If she's cute enough ... warm and kind ... and interesting enough to talk to, she gets a second d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:16 PM
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you assume to little of women. I am delusional? No you the one that thinks that all women are the sameand are incable of ajusting ot the new dynamic. women aren't nearly as hypergamous as you would believe I apologize for being unfair to women... PSYCHE!!!! http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2ok5xg/do_you_think_women_have_it_better_in_the_dating/ Gottlieb: ... I did talk to hundreds of men and women, single and married, for this book, in addition to the researchers and scientists.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 11:16 PM
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You're only partially right, feminism has amplified the message of AF/BB by encouraging women to 'explore their sexuality', which has created the hookup culture with alphas and women holding off marriage until later in life (with the full expectation that she'll get her prince charming). And yes, feminism has explicitly said you can have family and career at the same time, never pointing out the drawbacks of trying to do everything at once, which is why backlash articles have been posted here: h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:57 PM
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Aren't you the one making the claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:44 PM
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Feminism has been teaching girls that they can have virtually everything they want in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:39 PM
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Stop making excuses for women. Women are already financially independent. They're not going to tolerate 'dead weight' (while men will be more than happy to have a SAHM). This is always brought up but never with the accompanying statistics that say that the majority of divorces are due to infidelity and the majority of infidelity is done by husbands. So it would make sense that more divorces are initiated by the wife. Uh no http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/10357829/Why-do-women-initia…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:22 PM
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Sorry, but everything from Disney to Feminism to Commercials (capitalism cashing in on feminism) have been telling women they can 'have it all', from youth to adulthood. Edit: parents too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:16 PM
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Do you think that women who are financially independent are more likely to be disrespectful to their boyfriends/husbands vs. a wife who is dependent on her husbands paycheck? Yes, statistics say that's what happens. Divorce skyrockets when men lose their jobs. And women are the overwhelming majority of initiators of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:29 PM
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Yeah, i sorta jumped ideas here, but basically, women have been conditioned since childhood to expect the perfect man, a big home, a great career, a great family, high social status. Women are going to be extremely disappointed at the pool of men who don't meet their expectations. Men aren't going to put up with THAT shit and you're going to see more men opting out. I explain this more further below.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:28 PM
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Disrespect/being taken for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:14 PM
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Yeah that sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:13 PM
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Men wouldn't care? Men want sex on average more than women do anyway, and definitely get as lonely as women do. Again, i think women will get hurt more with this, the men who opt out of society have porn and videogames to anesthetized them. The thing about Dave Chappelle is that quote is going the way of the dodo. Again, the era of 'manchildren'/'herbivores' is accelerating. If you have to fit the ridiculous standards women impose on men for sex, it becomes less and less worth it. Men are findin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:12 PM
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edit: BTW, you're arguing against your own outrage at the average man being less attractive than the average woman, by saying that "Men are at a significant disadvantage in the physical attraction department" . If this is the case, then why are you so bitter about the fact that women rate guys lower on average? Be consistent! Men are at a significant disadvantage because women don't have much testosterone. Men will fuck just about everything. You really don't know how sex and attraction works. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:57 PM
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If men can't handle that then I'm not sure what to tell them. Notice you're ignoring the other side of the coin: Women will suffer too, moreso actually, unless they somehow figure out how to deprogram female hypergamy out of their genetics. A lot of these men simply won't care. There will be a LOT of lonely women. Again, i think women will get hurt more with this, the men who opt out of society have porn and videogames to anesthetized them. Women grew up being taught that they could have everyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:53 PM
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Oh, like inventing a time machine and using it to stay 20 years old for the rest of her life? Her shelf life is longer than that, but it's not the man's fault if she wastes her youth on the CC. Face it dude, what I'm saying is that with women gaining economic power, you're going to have to bring more to the table than just money - in other words, guys will actually have to care about their physical appearance the way that women have for eons. For some reason this is apparently terrifying and ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:41 PM
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Sure, i'm an average guy. I'm not particularly 'butthurt' over it. But am i not allowed to point out that women have ridiculous expectations and it's not exactly a controversial stance to take? In response to my comment that, now that they don't have to worry about money, women can afford to be more shallow. So maybe the takeaway is, since men could historically get women through being rich, they didn't, on average, put as much effort into their appearance as women did? So now, with the scenario…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:33 PM
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none of them are my type You don't say but I don't know if they're below average. significantly below average, according to okcupid women so I see no reason at all to continue this discussion MmmmmmmmHmmmmmmmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:19 PM
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Yeah...wasn't that based off some small dubious okcupid chart? Have you seen the way guys take pictures? A dude can be totally hot and look like a smurf in all of his selfies...just saying. http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ Scroll down. The guy with the guitar is pretty good looking and the other 3 guys are average, but women rated all 4 significantly below average. In any case, that same study also showed that women were totally happy to go out with all the guys Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:09 PM
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The overwhelming majority of men are 'below average' in looks for women. That's going to be a lot of disappointed women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:42 PM
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Which means that men are going to have to adapt, to learn to respect women and expect to be an equal partner in the relationship, or be left in the cold. "or be left out in the cold" implies unwillingness to be lonely. It's a cost/benefit analysis. Men aren't going to put up with that shit just for a woman, they are beginning to opt out. And you will continue to hear the shrill cries from pre-spinsters about 'where have all the good men gone?'. Japan is ahead of the curve for the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 06:40 PM
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Naw you redpiilers are out there. sure the scarcity of high earning men will increase, but to assume that high earning women will stay single is crazy they will readjust there criteria for thing that aren't related to money. This is true, but it will also be true that these women will be incredibly bitter as they all expected prince charming to sweep them off their feet ever since they're young. Also you may see a rise in stay at home dads. Also, more divorce! suddenly that high earning alpha do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 04:48 PM
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In your opinion. Anyway, my point is made, she said "all of them" not "just the bad ones". If you think the examples she gave are just the bad ones I am sorry you feel that its impossible to be cool and still be a good guy, frankly. But she left good men off the list! She clearly meant men that 'excite' women, but are terrible for LTR's.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 09:07 PM
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"cool guys" are going to be the ones fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 08:17 PM
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Not "only the bad ones". You are just strawmanning your ass off. Yeah, all of the bad ones, notice she doesn't list GOOD men? Do you know how to read? In a photo I'd probably get a 6/10 on a good day. In person? Much higher, but thats nothing to do with being good looking and everything to do with personality. Or maybe you have extraordinarily low standards? Hard to tell when we're just talking over the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 06:30 PM
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No, she is literally saying "date whoever you find attractive but choose carefully who you marry" When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. She clearly points out that women should be dating men who won't really give a shit about them. I'm a dependable guy and I always have been. I got laid loads. What's your excuse? That's subjective, maybe you're really good looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:27 PM
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She is saying "date whoever you want but marry someone who will treat you right". She's saying, date the shitty guys first, then marry the dependable guy. So, in other words, dependable guys wait on the sideline while all the girls fuck around. You can see why good men might be put off by that. She isnt looking for someone to take care of her - she is a multi millionaire in her own right and her entire book is about being self-reliant and successful as a woman. Yes, that isn't advice for her, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:07 PM
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She's saying: date shitty (but 'fun') men when you're young, and when you're about to hit the wall, snag a good man to take care of you. THIS is why men are becoming more suspicious of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 02:16 PM
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Going to repost this for you “When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his share in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 02:12 PM
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It's not my view, it's feminism's view: “When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 02:11 PM
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Except they have the microphone at respectable media outlets. We're not talking about some random blog.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:39 AM
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Sure we are. Yes, and the ones who conform the the masculine stereotype are the ones who win with the opposite sex. You understand that you can be assertive and a caretaker at the same time right? It's not one or the other. A caretaker is probably not going to be assertive. Men who do chores that are considered 'feminine' get less sex while men who do chores that are considered 'masculine' get more sex (and women with the latter men report more sexual satisfaction). http://www.asanet.org/journal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:38 AM
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Women are free to move away from rigid gender roles. Men are not. Women will simply never be attracted to unnassertive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:28 AM
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You don't think the work-heavy Japanese lifestyle has anything to do with that? Men will move heaven and earth if they were guaranteed a good woman to go along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:12 AM
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i think if the trend continues you see more women approaching more men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:09 AM
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then take the role of a care taker lol, yeah women are attracted to men who fill this role, lololol come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:02 AM
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Most people don't give a shit about feminism. They're not crazy rad fems. They have the media microphone though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 02:04 AM
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maturity, strength, patience, understanding, steadfastness, vulnerability, effective communication, and unselfishness. Women are encouraged to leave long term relationships for later in life and focus on their careers. Sorry, but women screwing around and wanting a man later to settle down with when she starts losing her attractiveness is not my definition of a 'good' woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 07:56 PM
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You'll meet someone worthwhile as a byproduct. The number of worthwhile women are dwindling. It's really hard for good men to meet good women, too many men chasing the few unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 07:35 PM
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If your gay partner treats you like garbage, you can easily drop them and find someone else (which is what straight women do). Not so easy for most straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 03:10 PM
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Except in the OP's example, there is no (or limited) sex. In our society, low status men and to some extent, high status women get shut out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 07:22 PM
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Reposting: Slate, of all places, debunks several of the rape studies that feminists use to push their anti-civil rights agenda as well as highlights several cases of false rape accusations here. Even the author of the "1 in 5" study says it's stupid to extrapolate that as a national trend from his study of TWO universities: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/12/college_rape_campus_sexual_assault_is_a_serious_problem_but_the_efforts.html It's no wonder that relations between men …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:56 PM
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I wonder if gay men realize how lucky they are that they don't have to deal with the same bullshit hetero men have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:40 PM
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Slate, of all places, debunks several of the rape studies that feminists use to push their anti-civil rights agenda as well as highlights several cases of false rape accusations here. Even the author of the "1 in 5" study says it's stupid to extrapolate that as a national trend from his study of TWO universities: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/12/college_rape_campus_sexual_assault_is_a_serious_problem_but_the_efforts.html It's no wonder that relations between men and women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 03:14 PM
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Here we have a human being whose existence alone would indicate that TRP might not be 100% correct. Masculine, alpha, admired, successful and...doesn't hate women. Yeah, it's amazing that a millionaire actor with a body like that wouldn't have a bad outlook of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 04:19 AM
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absolutely gorgeous man. Stopped reading right there. You answered your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 05:53 AM
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but this simply goes way too far and is frankly kind of ridiculous. Aka, modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 05:28 AM
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But my individual needs as a person never seem to come into play with a majority of the woman I have known. This is what happens when women are treated as the center of the universe from childhood to adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 08:59 PM
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Huh, something i agree with a bper for once. "Just be yourself" = Never touch a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 01:26 AM
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Congratulations, you're an outlier. Asexuals also don't feel that way (and it sounds like you are leaning asexual).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 01:23 AM
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Even liberals think SJW's have gone WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY too fucking far this time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Y6VH4PShQ
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 06:03 PM
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh https://archive.today/20141116124417/http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 06:00 PM
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I'm of the opinion that women should be able to slut it up if they want to, but they should also be educated on the consequences of doing so. Feminism doesn't teach the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 11:02 PM
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And then be called out for being a misogynist afterwards. Yeah whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 10:58 PM
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Heh, it's an innate skill that women have though, so you have contempt for a LOT of women. Manipulation is the woman's weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 03:01 PM
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Women are given a free pass to by abusive to men (physical or mental) in society. Have some self awareness about your biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 01:44 PM
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Men are stastically more likely to cheat and less likely to be dumped for it - I see you have gotten into the spirit of the TRP victim complex and misogyny though. LOL, you're so old fashioned, this generation of women are not only bigger cheaters than men, they are incredible hypocrits about it: http://www.news.com.au/national/women-more-promiscious-at-sex-than-men-more-unfaithful/story-e6frfkp9-1111118269034 And a quarter of young women have slept with more than 10 partners in the five years s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 06:33 AM
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The reason why 'it's a bit odd', is because you fall victim to the 'women are wonderful effect'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%9CWomen_are_wonderful%E2%80%9D_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 06:29 AM
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I do. But how many men know of TRP? .000001%? Manipulation comes naturally to women and is embraced and encouraged. Women are angry that there is a microscopic minority of men who recognize that and want to turn the tables around them by using the same tactics women use.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 04:30 PM
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Manipulation is the woman's weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 07:16 PM
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Huh, you know i've been catcalled once before, as a man, i didn't mind and actually made me feel pretty good. Maybe it's just because it happened once.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 10:46 PM
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In our society, when women get hurt, the world stops and it becomes a national tragedy. When men get hurt, nobody gives a shit and is often the butt end of jokes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muuFygvXPAM
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 07:51 PM
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How many men know about RP? Emotional manipulation and sexual strategy is common among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 07:30 PM
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emotional manipulation is the woman's weapon, BPers are outraged when men learn how to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 07:13 PM
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But I want it AFTER I know he's The Man. Yeah good luck with that. You narrowed your dating pool down to a very small subset of men who are capable of that (just like men who only go after 'good girls' who aren't turned off by emotionally vulnerable men).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 06:17 AM
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The point is, she has an infinitely higher number of options than a similar man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 03:37 AM
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It's infinitely preferable to single mom's raising children. We need to stop venerating single moms as saints. It's more of a tragedy that only one person raises a child (unless they're independently wealthy and don't have to work).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 03:33 AM
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I'm not sure you read my post. She doesn't have to settle for a one night stand if she doesn't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 03:32 AM
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Maybe the girl in question should stop being an entitled ass and go for a beta guy who will treat her nice? Oh wait, that would mean settling for a guy who isn't an alpha bad boy. Women have it rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 03:25 AM
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Because feminists, who have the political power, are taking care of it already, they keep saying so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 11:20 PM
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Actually, let me amend that other thing: A white girl caught with a bag of weed would probably be let go by the cop with a warning. A black guy will have a bag of weed planted on him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6aOM4Xq5gs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 11:06 PM
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You won't see a complaint from me on that, however, hedge fund managers make up a tiny fraction of the male population. The fact is, society punishes men harshes for virtually everything than women. Where are feminists fighting against that imbalance? crickets
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 11:02 PM
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You don't know how to read... at all: "A new study by Sonja Starr, an assistant law professor at the University of Michigan, found that men are given much higher sentences than women convicted of the same crimes in federal court." If you're a black guy with a bag of weed on you, you're probably going to jail. If you're a pretty white girl with a bag of weed, everyone's hearts will break at such a sad story and you'll get off with a slap on the wrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 10:49 PM
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I was off on how much longer men get sentenced than women, but it's still a gigantic gap: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html And it's not corporate fraud, it's all crime Remember: feminists say we don't need a mens rights movement because they're taking care of it already (LOL) A new study by Sonja Starr, an assistant law professor at the University of Michigan, found that men are given much higher sentences than women convicted of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 10:09 PM
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93% of work related deaths involve men and men get incarcerated 6 times longer for the exact same crime as women do. Nobody gives a flying flip when men get hurt, but when women do, it's a national tragedy. I think i'd rather be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 04:34 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 04:32 PM
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Yet, if Rodger was a woman, she would STILL receive attention from desperate men. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 02:45 PM
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So in some ways she is the victim, of manipulative Beta-game. Heh, yeah but beta game almost never works in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 02:44 PM
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Unfortunately, feminism permeates throughout life. Things like the VAWA which leads to male victims of domestic violence being not only ignored, but presumed guilty (when men call 911 after being assaulted, they actually are arrested instead of the women), or feminists demonizing male sexuality and destroying the concept of due process and creating kangaroo courts with sexual assault cases in colleges. If feminism didn't take hold in legislation or popular media, or everyday life, we could just …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/14 03:04 AM
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In social psychology, there is a classic theory called "exchange theory." It is a bit cold-blooded, but it predicts that a person's actions will be based on trying to find a balance of give and get. Each person's resources -- of all kinds, including money, looks, background -- are traded back and forth for a "good deal." For example, a "good deal" scenario could be a woman who makes an excellent living pairing up with a man who is a writer and is willing to work at home and be the primary child …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/14 01:18 AM
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That's not really true. Men have fewer options anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/14 01:16 AM
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That doesn't mean they won't marry/fuck them. WOMEN, OTOH will recoil in horror at the thought of marrying a man less successful than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/14 01:15 AM
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One of my favorite essays about 'nice guys' and the manosphere: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ So am I claiming that the feminist war on “nice guys” is totally uncorrelated with the existence of the manosphere? No. I’m saying the causal arrow goes the opposite direction from the one Barry’s suggesting. As usual with gender issues, this can be best explained through a story from ancient Chinese military history. Chen Sheng was an officer serving the Qin Dynasty…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/14 12:37 AM
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Ok, i meant 'modern westernized women'. Look, there are outliers and you could definitely be a catch for a lucky guy, but we're not talking about individual women here, we're talking about trends. When BPer's say 'well, you just have to avoid those shitty women', that's not good advice when the pool of good women are shrinking and a large number of men have to fight over them. but this seems to be mutually pleasing to the people doing it this way. Heh, read this article http://www.smh.com.au/fed…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 09:00 PM
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What I mean by that is that if he's a stay at home dad by choice, they're okay with it. VERY few women will like that arrangement. That's the problem. Society is ok with women working, but not with men being a stay at home dad. This is why i don't trust feminists when they say they're for breaking down gender roles for men AND women. In fact, men who lose their jobs are at a very high risk of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 08:57 PM
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I'm saying women are entitled spoiled brats and men shouldn't marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 08:54 PM
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Blue pill, everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 08:16 PM
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Sex, relationships, marriage, it's all about hypergamy. Hypergamy in wealth (for long term relationships) and hypergamy in looks/status in short term relationships/flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 08:13 PM
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If I had to guess, then I would propose it's because when women talk about "marrying up," it probably relates to the socioeconomic reality that women are disadvantaged in the workplace, Which, of course, is bullshit because women who make a lot of money still seek out mates that earn more than they do. This is a BIG reason why we have inequality, btw, the rise of 'power couples' has created more unequal household earning power as high earning women seek out high earning men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 08:11 PM
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But implicit in that is that men DON'T have options (except alphas). If an average looking (hell, even below average) looking woman walks down the street asking for sex, she'd get a ton of offers. If an average looking man does the same thing, lolololol, he'll probably get the cops called on him multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 08:05 PM
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"You're only as loyal as your options" - Chris Rock. -- funny how nobody gives him shit for pointing that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:57 PM
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Dump her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:45 PM
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Women have no loyalty, to any man (unlike men do with women, you know, women don't love like men do). Not in 100% of cases, but it's basically true as a function of supply and demand. Women are demanded more by men than vice versa. Women are only attracted to a small percentage of men. However, imagine a society where there were 100 women for every 1 man, and then you'll see women super loyal to men and even put up with polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:40 PM
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Eh, it mostly is: http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/sjp/71/3/157/ Research has found that, for long-term dating, women value men with greater financial resources and higher status, while for short-term dating they value men with greater physical attractiveness. However, there are discrepant results for both long- and short-term dating. As most of the previous studies used only questionnaires, we conducted a field experiment to evaluate women’s receptivity to men’s date requests. Young male confede…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:38 PM
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I think i'm just going to leave this alone because we're just typing for the sake of typing at this point. You should probably not get so upset over these things so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:32 PM
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Actually it does, because if it's the former, then you wouldn't willingly absorb the information even if i did tell you. That's how echo chambers work, you tend to deflect information that makes you uncomfortable while feeling more comfortable in the safety of a hugbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:30 PM
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The way you ask it's more like 'i don't believe you' rather than, 'hey that's interesting, teach me'
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:26 PM
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If you can't be vulnerable with a woman, that's not a woman you want to be in a committed relationship with. Congrats, you've just reduced your dating pool to a very small percentage of women who will still find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:24 PM
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I do know about the college rates falling for men. Thats a shame (and hardly the fault of just women) Actually, it's almost entirely the fault of women. Educators are desperate for male teachers, but men who want to be teachers are afraid of being seen as a potential sex criminal being around children. So what happens is, you have mostly female teachers who cater to mostly the needs of girls, but not of boys and boys get punished for being boys. Boys learn differently than girls, but the educati…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 07:21 PM
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Geez, it's not like i was THAT mean to you. It's common knowledge. If you don't know anything, what's the point of you challenging me?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 06:42 PM
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lol, single fatherhood is bad as well, but guess who gets the kids in a divorce most of the time! Or when women women irresponsibly get knocked up by criminal/slacker/good for nothing alphas, for that matter, and get left with the baby by herself. Women carry the child, remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 06:40 PM
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lol, single fatherhood is bad as well, but guess who gets the kids in a divorce most of the time! There aren't nearly as many single fathers as single mothers. Nobody gives a shit about single fathers like they do single mothers, btw. Notice i said "single PARENTING" is bad. Still no statistics. I seriously have to look up statistics that virtually everyone knows for you? I guess BP really does live in a bubble. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/06/womens-college-enrollment-gains-leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 06:38 PM
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Yes? Is that a problem? It's a problem because if you even follow the news just a little, you know those things to be true. In fact, I want to see citations that indicate women not needing men is a problem. Birth rates are falling. That's going to be bad when you're supporting social security, medicare, old people. I guess if you don't care if society going to hell in a handbasket is a problem... "But you don't NEED to be married to have babies", you object! In essense women are not asking men t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 06:28 PM
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Because women are growing up to believe that they don't need men (until their raging biological clocks and fading looks tell them otherwise). Also, men are falling behind in the middle class (see: the mancession and fewer men going to college), and that fucks up the hypergamous nature of women big time. I have to cite these 2 things... really?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 06:10 PM
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Because women are growing up to believe that they don't need men (until their raging biological clocks and fading looks tell them otherwise). Also, men are (rightly) more distrustful of women (does she love me for me? or is it because she just turned 30 and all the alphas don't want her anymore?). Also, men are falling behind in the middle class (see: the mancession and fewer men going to college), and that fucks up the hypergamous nature of women big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 06:06 PM
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Yeah, it was pretty damn popular though. As you'll notice, marriage rates are falling still.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 05:59 PM
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LMAO, you just proved my point. "Oh, he doesn't make a shitload of money, is incredibly attractive, and has a huge cock? Guess i'll just have to survive on TV and long island ice teas"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 04:51 PM
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Don't mistake this for TRP http://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2ft02u/men_who_dont_want_to_get_married_why/ckcj34b
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 04:50 PM
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So you don't believe there's a huge cultural shift in women's demands?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 04:16 PM
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Sure, it's called delegation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 04:12 PM
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I think modern women is a good term for them. They've been tainted by 'positive' reinforcement over and over again from society and media (i.e. sex in the city) that they can have everything they want and they absolutely deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 04:09 PM
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If a captain makes a mistake, a first mate can object. If a captain makes a lot of mistakes, you made a mistake choosing the captain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 03:57 PM
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This is what modern women believe in general. They believe men serve at their pleasure. The kids, the house, the bank account belongs to the wife. Want to know why there are 'man caves'? Because the rest of the house belongs to the woman. "Here, have this basement, stop whining!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 03:56 PM
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Because they believe a woman should dominate, anything else is slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 03:48 PM
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Again, first mate isn't a slave. A good captain listens.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 03:47 PM
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Is having the final say more important than a good family life to you? Believe it or not, women have a ton of agency in this: choosing the right man. We're in this mess because women make god awful choices in who they choose to be romantic partners with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 02:49 PM
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That's not true at all. A first mate isn't a slave, they actually have input. A leader who doesn't take input from people under them is a poor leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 02:09 PM
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah ok. Don't like stats? Just say it's wrong without explanation. Women are repulsed by the fact that the men 'don't pull their weight' in terms of breadwinning, but some have no choice if they want marriage, so that may in fact increase, but as it stands now, women are hypergamous and try their damndest to find someone who makes more than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 01:39 PM
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Uh no? http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/24/us-divorce-alimony-men-idUSBRE9BN0AW20131224 Up-to-date numbers are hard, if not impossible, to come by. According to 2010 Census records, of the 400,000 people receiving spousal support, only 3 percent were men. Last year, the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers surveyed its 1,600 members and found that 47 percent had noticed an increase in the number of women who are paying alimony. Still, as women increasingly become the chief breadwinners,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 01:32 PM
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It's a rarity. Alimony will be legislated away by pressure from women when these two things happen: 1) Instead of 70% of divorces being initiated by women, it's the men who initiate most of the divorces 2) Women become the majority breadwinner No feminist will tolerate it becoming common that men receive alimony from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 01:05 PM
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I'm a man, so obviously not RPW, but having read the subreddit a couple of times, i have a feeling that many of them don't want to end up like so may 'liberated' modern women who become lonely cat ladies in their 40's. They're smart enough to know that relationships that last need to be about respect that goes both ways to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 05:07 AM
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Hah, yeah nothing can be gleaned from the fact that the overwhelming majority of divorces are initiated by women. At the very least, men should be WAY more cautious with women than they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:41 PM
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"Well, obviously men are shitty. They probably beat their wives too. Also, there is no such thing as spousal abuse where women beat their husbands or emotionally destroy them" There, you happy? Total BP/feminist answer for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:37 PM
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Explain to me why the overwhelming majority of divorces are intiated by women then. I guess the BP answer to that would be: "Well, obviously men are shitty. They probably beat their wives too. Also, there is no such thing as spousal abuse where women beat their husbands or emotionally destroy them"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:32 PM
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Women have more sex than men, cheating way more than men, then getting all pouty if men cheat is the very definition of 'have it all'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:23 PM
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but you have the full autonomy to leave if you two are not considerate of each other's likes, dislikes, desires, personality, etc... Interesting how husbands are not entitled to sex, but women are entitled to alimony when she calls it quits.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:12 PM
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http://www.news.com.au/national/women-more-promiscious-at-sex-than-men-more-unfaithful/story-e6frfkp9-1111118269034 And a quarter of young women have slept with more than 10 partners in the five years since losing their virginity - compared with a fifth of young men. Young women are also twice as likely to be unfaithful, with 50 per cent admitting they have cheated on a partner - half at least twice. Yet if their man was caught being unfaithful, 99 per cent of the 2,000 women surveyed said they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:11 PM
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And yes, being (significantly) unhappy in a marriage is a very valid reason for divorce Let me fix that for you Not measuring up to all the alphas she used to fuck is a very valid reason for divorce Take a guess why women initiate more than 70% of divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:11 PM
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The tides are changing, HOUSE HUSBANDS ARISE!! :P. LMAO, as if women weren't unattracted to their boyfriends/husbands enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:09 PM
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Agreed. Maybe she's from a different generation though, young women are like this nowadays: http://www.news.com.au/national/women-more-promiscious-at-sex-than-men-more-unfaithful/story-e6frfkp9-1111118269034 And a quarter of young women have slept with more than 10 partners in the five years since losing their virginity - compared with a fifth of young men. Young women are also twice as likely to be unfaithful, with 50 per cent admitting they have cheated on a partner - half at least twice. Yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 10:04 PM
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Isn't it hypocritical that TBP don't rally against women, who do FAR more manipulation than men? And society condones it? TRP is in response to female sexual strategy, which is pervasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 08:52 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2jbomp/blue_pillers_has_any_rperpper_convinced_you_to/clatzxr
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 04:46 AM
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I don't get the point of TBP. You guys are so angry at TRP, but how many know about TRP? Like .0000001% of American men? Female sexual strategy is used by most women and nobody bats an eye when women hurt men. It seems TBP is mad at TRP for figuring this out and scared shitless that men will start using women's sexual strategy as well and level the playing field? This is why even someone as progressive as myself is turning my back on feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/14 04:45 AM
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So I said that it is you dating a promiscuous woman that is risky, not the promiscuous woman. There's a difference? The danger is not being self aware of this risk or dating a woman who hides her history. i.e. when you say it is risky, do you mean that it is a risk you take when dating with an eye to commit, or it is a risk you take when spending quality time with someone after you've committed? Uh, both? The only man who isn't at risk is the man who is sleeping around with no intention to commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 01:05 PM
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Wut. I think it's pretty shitty to date multiple people at the same time, honestly. I guess i'm a bit of a traditionalist there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 03:02 AM
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Dating in a committed relationship or in a marriage. Short term flings who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 02:36 AM
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This is one of the greatest rationalization hamsters anyone has written.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 02:13 AM
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I've seen women shame men with little sexual experience in /r/TwoXChromosomes Goes both ways. Not that feminists care when men get shat on by women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 02:12 AM
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A promiscuous woman is the equivalent to several bullets in a chamber in a game of Russian Roulette. Why risk it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 02:02 AM
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Former guy has women swooning all over him and maybe he gets conjugal visits? I dunno, i thought he wasn't in jail yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 02:00 AM
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iNvestor, Denier, Idealist - The Hopeful Romantic This type of woman suits my RP sensibilities iNvestor, Justifier, Realist - The Modern Woman lol, what, "The Modern Woman" is not an 'investor'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/14 08:55 PM
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Which skit is that? I'm thinking of the Chapelle show skit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4568PIRnk
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/14 08:49 PM
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Everything else does work Looking at the increasing divorce rates and decreasing marriage rates, yeah no that's not true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/14 08:43 PM
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What good is that happiness if it's at the expense of others. If it makes you happier and is not at the expense of others, fine, but that is clearly not the case a lot of the time. This is a good question for all the women who fuck alphas in their youth then marry beta suckers and sap the life out of them/withhold sex from them/drain them financially/destroy them emotionally, etc. TRP is a sexual strategy for .0001 percent of men. Female sexual strategy is a sexual strategy for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/14 08:38 PM
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Also mostly due to social conditioning. Women are more outspoken are more aggressive in careers than previous generations. Why is it that they haven't caught up in relationships? Because they can just sit back and relax. Don't be daft, men act and women are acted upon and women sure as fuck aren't going to change that anytime soon. Outside of super alphas, women will never approach. I'm sure Leonardo Dicaprio has to beat women off with sticks when they mob him all at once though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/14 08:33 PM
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"What is traditional courtship to you?" Getting rid of hookup culture and women demanding commitment from any man (alpha or beta) before sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/14 08:31 PM
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Wonderful post. It's the "Women are Wonderful" effect where there's a cognitive bias for both women AND men to associate positive traits to women more strongly than to men. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%9CWomen_are_wonderful%E2%80%9D_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 10:38 PM
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Typical women who says they like 'nice guys', but go for the highest alpha they can. That's why TRP advocates not listening to what a woman says, but observe what she DOES.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 10:55 PM
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I don't see much media telling women to marry rich, but i see a shitload telling them to fuck bad boys. Hypergamy is innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 10:18 PM
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At the same time, 78 percent of never-married women say that a mate with a steady job would be very important to them, more than any other quality in choosing a spouse. Is this a socialized behavior? Do these women's parents tell them to marry for a paycheck?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 09:34 PM
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Hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 08:04 PM
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More Evidence: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/upshot/for-the-young-money-is-increasingly-trumping-marriage.html?abt=0002&abg=1 Men are more likely than women to remain unmarried, 23 percent to 17 percent. Part of that is linked to the fact that the share of men aged 25 to 54 who are not working has been increasing for 50 years. At the same time, 78 percent of never-married women say that a mate with a steady job would be very important to them, more than any other quality in choosing a spouse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 07:45 PM
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The funny thing is, these women probably don't think of themselves as prostitutes and probably look down at 'street walkers'. "B-b-b-b-ut i'm college educated, it's DIFFERENT!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 04:44 PM
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Is that true. Did they act this way even in societies where gender equality existed? If women act this way because they traditionally had lower incomes, and in virtually every society on earth men have higher incomes than women, then that would potentially explain the effect. Again, marriage rates drop when the wage gap decreases. In practical terms? Yes. It would mean that it might not be a biological drive, thus some women wouldn't care about income. In terms of policy, it absolutely matters. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 03:12 AM
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When women of virtually every society in existence past, present, and most likely future act in a hypergamous way, does it REALLY matter if you can't definitively prove if it's related to genetics or not, in practical terms for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 03:00 AM
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I have to admit that I haven't seen any evidence for hypergamy. lol http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/sjp/71/3/157/ Research has found that, for long-term dating, women value men with greater financial resources and higher status, while for short-term dating they value men with greater physical attractiveness. However, there are discrepant results for both long- and short-term dating. As most of the previous studies used only questionnaires, we conducted a field experiment to evaluate women’s rece…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 02:35 AM
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Pretending that women are not hypergamous is dangerous for men. The importance of marriage to women has actually gone UP to younger generations of women while the importance of marriage has gone DOWN for young men. This has caused a market failure and successful women who want to get married have MUCH Lower marriage prospects and need to compromise. Especially because successful women are more likely to marry older - thus they make themselves less desireable in the process. Also: http://psycnet.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 02:32 AM
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Your logic is rather horrid. You assume that because more women outearn men in marriage than before, that means women are not hypergamous. However, you do not account for the fact that the women in question have much fewer marriagable prospects and are FORCED to compromise. The redpill argument makes more sense: 1) Men don't care how much women make (this is certifiably true) 2) Women are now focusing more on education/their careers (certifiably true) 3) Men are doing worse off economically than…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 02:13 AM
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Marriage rates are also going down. Women are not finding 'suitable' men (i.e. men who make a base level of money they're happy with). Divorce rates go up when men lose their jobs or women surpass their husband's earnings. Your argument is way too simplistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 01:28 AM
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I think you're the first BPer to admit that sex is either transactional or a 'duty'. That's the fucked up part of relationships, women just have to exist while men have to be something (rich, a 'bad boy', good looking, high status, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 10:01 PM
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lol. Between the two scenarios, the man will take the woman who is offering sex 99 times out of a 100 over the rich woman offering the trip, especially if the girl is better looking. The thing is... that almost never happens. Which is why women act so shitty to men - because they can - men have a greater demand for women than the opposite. I can't say I'm the type to do something like that, but if George Clooney propositioned me and I accepted, it wouldn't be because I desire so much to fuck Clo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 09:51 PM
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Men are definitely more shamed for being a stay at home dad, while there's no stigma for a woman who works. Given the higher divorce rate for men who make less (or don't even work), it makes women look REALLY shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 09:10 PM
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Also, one other thing, it's not just money, but prestige as well. Even if the man makes decent money as a plumber or other blue collar job, college educated women will look down on them for not having a college education/a job that requires a college education.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 09:08 PM
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I question whether this dynamic really exists the way you described it. I mentioned earlier that 62% of minimum wage workers are women. Women dominate the lower pay scales. They aren't dominating the middle-incomes. Maybe this will change in 10 years, but it hasn't yet. There's a reason why the recession was referred to as the 'mancession', women are in jobs that are more recession proof than men, also women dominate college enrollment and fewer and fewer men go to college with each passing gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 09:06 PM
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Heh, you think men have to be a rich moviestar/singer to make women cheat, that's rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 08:50 PM
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You assume that the reason for this trend is that women will inherently only want to marry men who make more. Correlation does not imply causation. There are other potential explanations for this trend. Why is your explanation the right explanation? In the past week, BPers have admitted that women's dating pool is MUCH larger than men's dating pool. If most women can offer their looks (even when they aren't the most attractive women) and men can't, then the only other superficial thing they can …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 08:48 PM
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It's funny because he can't see that women don't want to marry men who make less and will divorce men who make less, this is why marriage rates are going down, reposting: Women RESIST marrying men who earn less, not that they refuse altogether. Part of the reason why we have such a high divorce rate is because women are 'forced' to marry someone they don't respect (aka, a beta, who doesn't earn as much as she does). This study found two things: 1) In marriage markets where women have a higher ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 08:33 PM
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And i'll repost this: Women RESIST marrying men who earn less, not that they refuse altogether. Part of the reason why we have such a high divorce rate is because women are 'forced' to marry someone they don't respect (aka, a beta, who doesn't earn as much as she does). This study found two things: 1) In marriage markets where women have a higher chance to earn more than men, marriage rates are rates decline 2) In marriages where the women earns more than the husband, the couple is more likely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 08:32 PM
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Women RESIST marrying men who earn less, not that they refuse altogether. Part of the reason why we have such a high divorce rate is because women are 'forced' to marry someone they don't respect (aka, a beta, who doesn't earn as much as she does). This study found two things: 1) In marriage markets where women have a higher chance to earn more than men, marriage rates are rates decline 2) In marriages where the women earns more than the husband, the couple is more likely to divorce than the rev…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 08:31 PM
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Women who make 200k resist marrying men who make 200k.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 08:14 PM
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It indicates that women who use OK cupid are gold diggers. Clearly only OKCupid women are gold diggers. FYI, women who have high income resist marrying men with low income. This has led to two outcomes: 1) More inequality thanks to rich women only marrying rich men, creating 'power couples' 2) Many rich women losing out in the marriage market and marriage rates going down. AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/14 08:13 PM
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It's shitty behavior that women want an equal partner in a husband (translation: someone she doesn't respect) but don't give a shit about how their partners view them when they're fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/14 01:37 AM
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How is this about "beta bucks" if the woman in question has a successful career; she has her own "bucks" and she didn't refer to the man needing to be a breadwinner or provider. Because successful women will resist marrying men who don't make as much. Women are hypergamous. This is a big reason why inequality is rising so sharply (power couples) and why there are so many unmarried women. Is helping around the house, being supportive of your partner's career and raising your children chump-y now?…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 02:22 AM
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It's pretty shitty behavior by women. If the tables were turned, women would have their own RP forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 11:36 PM
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who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his share in the home. Interesting how these aren't important qualities when you're having fun with bad boys but somehow really important when you settle down with your future husband. Sheryl Sandberg's quote is basically 'DON'T MARRY' for virtually every man out there. The fact that BP women aren't denouncing this outlook is indica…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 11:05 PM
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Yeah, a single incident where feminists across the country showed their true fucking colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 04:09 AM
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So some random internet posters have some sympathy. Nice you're still avoiding the issue. Mitt Romney's wife was shamed for being a stay at home mom. Where were the protests from feminists across the nation? Again, fucking CRICKETS
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 04:00 AM
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I always love it when RP-ers prop up their straw feminists and then bring up isolated incidences to somehow prove their beliefs. So here it is: I am absolutely sure some women out there have disdain for SAHM. I am sure that some SAHM frown upon women who choose to pursue a career (Women Against Feminism, anyone?). But as far as mainstream feminism goes, SAHM is not shamed. Mainstream feminism fights traditional gender roles so that women and men can have options. Unless you can give me solid evi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:48 AM
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Honestly I think it's more based on looks than anything Yes and no. Women's standards of beauty for men is beyond ridiculous: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/ Okcupid found that women found 80% of okcupid men 'below average' in looks. Which of course is illogical. But hey, there's your 80/20 pareto principle in action. Read the blog post, it's about the most thought out explanation of why we're in this mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:43 AM
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Going to repost this: Watch through these videos. You'll find feminists doing the following: Turning off the lights to meetings, pulling the fire alarms, blocking the entrances to the meeting, going into the meetings and screaming/banging desks so they can't hold the meetings, screaming/swearing at people who try to debate peacefully. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOnuZsXRwTA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2KPeMcYsuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:30 AM
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Actually, i quoted the wrong part of the article: Being a mother isn't a real job -- and the men who run the world know it. Heh, feminists, nonjudgemental, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:26 AM
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Here's one good argument: Yeah, women should be allowed to explore their sexuality, but feminists never tell women the downsides: If you 'explore too long' or 'too much', men will be less attracted to you because of age and partner count. And you become less fertile as you age. Feminists NEVER preach responsibility, only privilege and freedom. Ask the 30/40 year old spinsters if they're happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:25 AM
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Of course this is nonsense, feminists shame SAHM's all the time: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/06/1-wives-are-helping-kill-feminism-and-make-the-war-on-women-possible/258431/ Let's please be serious grown-ups: real feminists don't depend on men. Real feminists earn a living, have money and means of their own. Edit: Being a mother isn't a real job -- and the men who run the world know it. Remember how Mitt Romney's wife was treated by feminists because she was a SAHM? There's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:23 AM
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Doesn't make it less true. You honestly think the bad boys are suffering? When the women finally get sick of their shit, they don't care if they withold sex or leave them, they just jump to the next women. In many cases, they have multiple FWB's at the same time, big whoop. That nice responsible guy? Hahahahahahahaha, yeah, she has him by the balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:18 AM
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opportunities for marriage aren't distributed to women equally so in a way, it is fair after all That's women's own fault though. OTOH, good men are denied sex because they aren't dark triad enough. Read this passage, it's kind of long. The guy isn't red pill, and in fact speaks against it, but he articulates incredibly well why the red pill exists: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ Pay special attention to the part about 'henry' and why someone like henry, who b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:13 AM
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20% of men get all the sex (I guess the other 80% are virgins or something?) You're taking this too literally, when the 80/20 number gets thrown about, it's referring to the Pareto principle, not that it's literally 20% of men getting 80% of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:02 AM
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Yeah, i meant the bolded part, genius. The responsible good guy gets the ultimate prize: a dead bedroom and possible divorce rape. No good deed goes unpunished.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:00 AM
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More like to sleep around without any attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 11:36 PM
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Plenty of reformed I don't personally like playing Russian Roulette with 3 rounds in the chamber: https://i.imgur.com/rrLe319.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 08:09 PM
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What bucks is he providing her? She's advising women on how to get their own careers with kids. A stay at home husband would be the ideal. No bucks there. There was a study done that showed women who make a lot of money hold out for men who are equal or more in terms of their earnings. This is a big reason why inequality is growing rapidly: because of power couples. Women have no respect for men who are stay at home dads. In fact, men who lose their jobs are at MUCH higher risk of divorce. Hyper…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 07:37 PM
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A man who clearly doesn't give a shit about women other than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 07:31 PM
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Read her pivot: The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. She clearly has 2 separate categories of lovers. A dual mating strategy. An alpha that women fuck, and a beta that provides them bucks, if you will. One gets privilege, the other saddled with responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 07:16 PM
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lol, yeah, he's there... to be the woman's bank account/slave. You're deluding yourself if you think he gets the same benefits as the bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 07:13 PM
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lol, feminism encourage 'sex positivity'. What the fuck do you think that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 07:10 PM
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I put 'artist' and 'band members' in quotes because i'm talking about men with nothing else going in their lives and who obviously aren't making a living at these 'jobs'. However, they are more likely to be successful at dating than the guy who studied hard in STEM and was a responsible adult. BORING. Anyways your using the term "women" to broadly again and not breaking it down. Do I know people who have partnered up with criminals and druggies? Yes I do. Do I think these are quality people I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 07:09 PM
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That is a VERY charitable interpretation of what she's saying: “When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 06:29 PM
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Sure, people change, but isn't it funny women change in a very specific way in lockstep when it comes to their view on relationships at around 30? It's almost like their looks are fading or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 06:16 PM
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It's amazing how women change when they reach around 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 06:09 PM
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Of course. But not because she's somehow 'dirty', but that it means she has decoupled sex from love. And that she's probably a very irresponsible person. That is the modern woman in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 05:57 PM
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the BP subreddit. If women told BP men (as in society) the truth, society would come to a halt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 05:55 PM
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Don't live in the internet land echo chamber. Go to the real world and do a survey on how many people actually even know that name, even know what she writes, or even listens or agrees to what she writes. Sheryl Sandberg is just an example, she's a very well known businesswoman, and you'd be a fool to think other prominent women don't encourage that idiotic behavior. And why shouldn't a women explore her sexuality? Is this bad? When they do it with criminals, 'artists', 'band members', drug addi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 05:52 PM
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Not really, BP mocks TRP on just about everything. Sounds like someone's moving the goalposts here. If even BP admitted AFBB was real, reddit would come tumbling down into the abyss.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 05:50 PM
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Stop pretending this is a rare phenomenon. We're at this place because feminists tell women that being a Stay at home mom is shameful, not focusing on your career is shameful, every woman should explore their sexuality, etc. Do you think influential women like Sheryl Sandberg telling young women that they should date bad boys in their youths and marry betas later in life has no effect on impressionable young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 05:43 PM
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Oh... BP agrees that AFBB is an actual phenomenon now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 05:36 PM
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Well, the innocent until proven guilty concept went the way of the dodo thanks to feminiists. Also because of Title 9, you don't get to have lawyers present or present evidence in your defense. Also, in one of these cases, they had people like the library manager on the judiciary adjudicating these cases. Isn't feminism grand? If a rape occurred, send the guy to prison, don't do these bullshit half measures that punish the innocent just to appease a bunch of shrieking feminist harpies who want b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 10:23 PM
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The reason this happened is because the Obama admin pushed through punishing schools for 'violating' title IX and pushed schools to lower the burden of proof to 'preponderance of evidence' (meaning, no proof needed, just take her word for it) Two questions: 1) Who do you think Obama was doing this on the behalf of (answer: feminists) and 2) What do you think the implications of such an action were going to be (answer: kangaroo courts, false 'convictions')?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 09:27 PM
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But feminists want women to be treated like children in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 08:54 PM
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Watch through these videos. You'll find feminists doing the following: Turning off the lights to meetings, pulling the fire alarms, blocking the entrances to the meeting, going into the meetings and screaming/banging desks so they can't hold the meetings, screaming/swearing at people who try to debate peacefully. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOnuZsXRwTA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2KPeMcYsuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxY-5ISEHPg https://w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 08:30 PM
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Do you honestly believe women's rights protests don't receive backlash? They do. A lot. People fighting even for reasonable things like domestic violence and rape victims get backlash. Look at you. I bet the "obnoxious twats" you're referring to are fairly resonable, but you fight against them. Welcome to a world of multiple opinions. I don't fucking block people's right's to hold assembly or pull the fucking fire alarm. That's what feminists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 08:13 PM
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Then don't make dumb accusations without proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 08:03 PM
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Interesting how women can organize protests and be obnoxious twats about it, while men who want to discuss serious issues can't even do that without women acting like absolute children and it's... the men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 07:55 PM
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Actually, i just figured out a way to 'prove' i didn't downvote you... ready? in about 30 seconds, all the other posts you were whining about being downvoted by me will have additional downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 07:51 PM
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don't really care if you don't believe me, msg an admin if you want proof or something. I just downvoted your last post though, because you're being a retarded twat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 07:44 PM
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And if you genuinely give a shit about what happened to him, you'd be maybe organizing a protest against the Dean, or contacting lawmakers. lol, shit, when men want to get together to discuss something like the male suicide rate, batshit fucking crazy feminists will block people from attending and pull the firealarm so the meeting can't take place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 07:43 PM
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I don't waste my time with that shit. If you're getting downvoted, it's other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 07:41 PM
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I dunno, when there's DNA evidence exonerating you and someone else confesses to the crime, do you still throw the person you originally accused in prison? Because that's what's happening here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 07:02 PM
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There are precedents for handling crimes in this manner. There are precedents where there's incontrovertible proof of the accused being thrown in jail anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 06:49 PM
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You're fooling yourself if you don't think this would happen at virtually every single campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 06:47 PM
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lol what? So you think taking out a full page ad to besmirch your name and giving F's to the accused on the basis of being accused is a 'straw man'? LOLOLOL. 88 fucking professors signed that thing. Again, those in engineering, science, and law saw through that bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 06:38 PM
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"I respect myself too much to watch you flirt with all those other dudes, stop it or GTFO" Nothing will dry up a vagina faster than something like that. What next, give her hurt puppy eyes? I thought RP dudes were supposed to be above worrying about how they come off anyway? If that were true, there would be no RP strategies to speak of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 06:14 PM
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You can't negotiate attraction. If you communicate with your SO that you don't appreciate her flirting around, you actual hurt your own attraction because she knows for sure she has more value than you. Abuse (aka 'shit tests') are programmed into women's psyche. Dread game is passing those tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:57 PM
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And brian banks before, and the vassar rape case and the OP's rape case. yeah, other than that, it doesn't happen. What happened at Duke was shameful. It does not go against what is happening across thet board. lol, 88 shithead feminist professors at duke signed that document. EIGHTY EIGHT. That is a lot of shitheads at one school who don't give a fuck about due process. Do you honestly believe that this wouldn't happen at virtually every other school?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:53 PM
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3% proves my claim. That's so insignificant it might as well be 0. If 60 percent of alimony was awarded to men, do you honestly believe women wouldn't be complaining? This only works if you have logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:51 PM
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Oh yeah, because their lives didn't get fucked. The group of 88 did nothing wrong. The accused didn't have to transfer out. And those professors giving bad grades to those accused out of vindication were right to do so. Up is down, black is white. Shitty people do shitty things, color me surprised Yeah, 88 feminist professors. You're fooling yourself if you think this wouldn't happen virtually everywhere. Notice how engineering and law professors refused to sign. It's amazing people who value lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:49 PM
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One singular case... and all those other cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:47 PM
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No, his point was that after a certain number of years, the damage to the earning potential is permanent, also depending on the field. 5 years out is the same as 10 years out is the same as 15 years out. For example. You didn't address that claim at all. It's not the same. Again, ageism, and loss of skills are different at 5, 10, 15 years out. His claim is fucking retarded. And again, you can always find cases of miscarrying of justice. So what? It happens. It's bad when it does. Feminists are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:46 PM
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False convictions where there's incontrovertible proof that the accused is innocent get thrown out on appeals at the very least, much less even go to trial. Feminists have turned the legal system on top of it's head in these kangaroo courts where incontrovertible evidence doesn't even matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:44 PM
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Duke Lacrosse. Didn't get convicted, but their lives got FUCKED thanks to feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:34 PM
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Also, lol, "Yes people get falsely convicted.". Yeah fuck that guy! You just threw that out there like it doesn't matter. This is a case where there's incontrovertible evidence that the man is innocent and he still got expelled. It's not like it was a typical 'he said/she said'. There are lawsuits all over the country because of cases like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:33 PM
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Again, their actions. If you're coddled through life and get validation all day long, you tend to turn into a spoiled brat, so it's not like i'm saying there's no reason for why women act the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:31 PM
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No, the journalist said that. And I don't know if he is a feminist so what does that have to do with whether or not you respect him? And you've taken the sentence out of the paragraph that explains the why, which is very convenient, of course, since you are not addressing the why. I already took HIS 'why' and explained why it's dumb. Just like a feminist you cover your eyes and ears. Feminists wanted a situation in which reporting to the university would be useless because the people there are u…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:28 PM
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With attitudes like yours, what we're going to get is more Duke Lacross scandals and feminists departments (who still haven't apologized) who do shitty things like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_88
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:25 PM
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3% really doesn't prove your point. I don't see what your other post has to do with anything, more women are working.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:19 PM
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No, that is not what is happening. Evidence matters. Really? So explain occidental. Also, explain how this man was expelled from school when his accuser basically said it was consensual through facebook and that she had a 'wonderful time'? http://reason.com/archives/2013/12/17/guilty-until-proven-innocent Now get back to how women are not responsible and how you are justified in treating 3.5 women as children. Again: Their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:16 PM
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It's illogical to tie alimony to the length of a marriage. You keep saying this, but this is the dumbest fucking thing ever and this is EXACTLY why i don't respect feminists. I've already made clear why it makes sense for an older woman who was married longer to receiver more alimony: they were out of the workforce longer and there's ageism at play. If you don't want to acknowledge this then fine. If you think NOW was arguing against this bill in good faith then you're an idiot. You know who say…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:09 PM
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It's so rare that no woman in their right mind is going to march against it. I know that men get alimony. What i meant was that when it becomes common, it will go the way of the dinosaur, because alimony will start hurting women more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:02 PM
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It's because the DOE is investigating colleges over Title IX 'violations'. The standards of evidence has been lowered to get men into trouble. It's a FEDERAL initiative, this has put pressure on colleges to punish men, no matter the 'evidence'. It's amazing how little you know about this situation yet you're commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:00 PM
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Give me the percentage of women who receive alimony vs. men please.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:57 PM
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And literally everybody agrees with her? Feminists surely aren't marching against that sentiment. They're the ones who got us in this mess in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:55 PM
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Guess what, people get away with horrific crimes all the time when there's no evidence. Why should we give special treatment to one crime and not the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:53 PM
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Yes, but it's still not the majority case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:52 PM
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This reminds me of an old reddit post where a redditor saw an abusive BF beat on his girl. He stepped in and punched him, and he got rewarded by getting kicked in the nuts by the girl. I'm pretty sure the next time he sees that happening, he'll just walk by and whistle as if nothing was happening. Outside of children and the disabled, there's really very few people in America who deserves to have a hero step in for them... This hero/anti-hero trope needs to stay with comic books.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:51 PM
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lol, you believe NOW argued against the law in good faith. I want to see what their proposal was. Two seconds of googling showed the problems with the law. Two seconds. That's your twisted opinion. Someone married a long time SHOULD get more alimony than someone who wasn't. You're illogical. which mess? For passing laws that were perfectly acceptable for the time period in which they were passed? Do you know what historical context is? And back to rape. Again. The problem is that within our curr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:48 PM
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An entire gender did no such thing. Ok fine, you got me, it was asshole feminists who did that (aka most women). But that is not, in fact, what has been happening. Underreported. Not taken seriously. Penalty for the victim. You do know a lot of those statistics are B.S., right? Also, again, sorry we can't arrest men solely on the word of women... yet. But hey, at least cops will automatically arrest men in DV situations, even if the men are the ones who call 911. That's a win for you feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:43 PM
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I personally don't care if women want to go to work, it's their right. However, you need to go deeper than that. If/when women finally outearn men, you will see alimony go away completely and women will argue that in the name of equality (LOL).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:41 PM
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Research shows that women who take time out of the workforce experience a permanent loss in earning potential. Think of the lawyer who gives up her one chance at making partner to stay home and take care of kids. She's sacrificing her career for her husband and kids. That's taking a hit for the team. That's not a gold digger. Please stay on topic. Yes, and? A woman who stayed with their husband for 20 years sacrificing their career has it MUCH worse than a woman who stayed with their husband for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:30 PM
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It's because that entire gender fought for this mess IN THE FIRST PLACE. The only reason why we have these kangaroo courts where you could be innocent in the eyes of the law but guilty solely by the word of a woman in college is BECAUSE of feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:18 PM
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often can't prove that she's been raped Yeah, it's a shame we can't lock up men solely on the word of women. Don't worry, feminists are trying to fix that. Might as well set the constitution on fire as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:14 PM
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Why is it illogical to tie alimony to the length of the marriage? If a gold digger marries a man for his money and divorces him after a year, should she get the same alimony as someone who stuck by their man for 20 years? As for Duke - why are you taking the quote of one person "other females" as you call them, and using this to say that 3.5 billion people people want no responsibility? Where are the feminists/women who are fighting against this injustice? THEY are the reason why we have these s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:14 PM
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NJ wanted to end permanent alimony and reduce alimony where the spouse paying alimony when they lose their job or retire. NOW fought against that in the name of equality (LOL). I mean, if you lose your job, should you really be paying the full alimony still? Women want slavery for men. Also, read the OP's post, how do you explain this other than females wanting no responsibility and putting it solely in the hands of men? During the trial two months ago, Duke's dean of students, Sue Wasiolek, was…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:56 PM
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Explain to me why the National Organization of Women fought against alimony reform in NJ (No permanent alimony? The HORROR!)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:48 PM
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Because women/feminists fight for privileges, not responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:46 PM
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Yep. One of the most idiotic posts here was one BPer who pointed out Ryan Gosling as an example of a 'nice guy' who doesn't fuck around and cooks/cleans for his GF. If he can do it, so can you! (completely ignoring his stratospheric SMV that 99.99% of men don't have). Most men I know want to be the 'good guy', but they get punished for it by being lonely. Men are angry that they aren't allowed to be the 'hero' - feminists even shame 'nice guys' for being deceptive. So why be nice at all when bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:40 PM
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Of course you can be friends with them. My point is that when you become friends with a modern woman, you enter a point of no return and they'll be insulted if you try to pivot to romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 01:30 PM
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Lets change that to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 01:22 PM
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That's because of how modern women behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 01:13 PM
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And honestly, you really think people don't marry their high school sweetheart in this day and age? Much rarer of course, because marriage is going down the toilet and the age where people get married is going higher and higher. Also, you don't think the men of previous generations of men didn't have intentions of having a romantic relationship at the same time as they were seeking friendships with these women? Declaring your intention right away only makes sense for FWB situations. Making frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:14 AM
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Yes, i do know what it was like because i've done weird shit like... talk to older people. My mom and dad were friends in high school and got married after college. It helps that i'm not so self absorbed into social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 04:05 AM
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Your view is EXACTLY why relationships in the 21st century are fucked up. It used to be that men and women got to know each other, often as friends, before they went out with each other. Now you have to declare your sexual interest up front the second you meet a girl. That is fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:58 AM
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What are women qualified to give advice on? I'm not sure but there's no disputing that women are the absolute worst people for dateless men to ask advice on how to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:49 AM
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How else do you think AFBB happens. Do you think the women are emotionally attached to their alphas?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 06:10 PM
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Heh, i can also offer sources showing there's an epidemic of women who are on anti-depressants (while societies where women put children ahead of work have happier women).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 06:07 PM
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keep in mind that we mentally and emotionally mature more quickly than males I'd like to dispute that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 05:28 PM
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to me sex is really no big deal, I'm just saying. That's actually the reason why beta men shouldn't trust women. Sex isn't a big deal anymore to women and they've successfully decoupled sex from love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 05:25 PM
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Men are more emotional with respect to relationships. Women less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 05:19 PM
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Dutch women are rejecting climbing the career ladder and focusing more on raising their children, to the consternation of feminists (read the articles).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 01:20 PM
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Most men can't bring themselves to sleep with a 6 There have been a lot of stupid posts in this sub, and this has to take the cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 12:29 AM
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Well, whatever, i don't know where you're from, but in America it's like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 11:32 PM
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are people who have a co-ed group of friends and incestuously date among them, which I think is actually more of the norm. BULL FUCKING SHIT. Whenever the 'nice guy' bitches about why he can't date one of his friends and he's in the 'friendzone', women/feminists come out of the fucking wood work and scream at how he was dishonest about his so-called 'friendship'.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 11:31 PM
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and at least moderately attractive Not even, i've seen enough 7 and 8 men with 4 and 5 women in my life to know that the imbalance is UNDERSTATED.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 11:25 PM
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See: Hookup culture. Modern day women are basically men with options. Also see: Rejection of traditional gender roles. Notice how feminists shame Stay at Home Moms and really push women to advance their careers over anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 11:12 PM
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"The View", "The Talk" come to mind. Virtually ever daytime talk show.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 11:10 PM
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Probably because modern women want to be men now and by hell or high water, they'll force society to adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 11:01 PM
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Sharon Osborne is a halfwit reality TV star You just described every 'you go girl' feminist TV show host.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 10:51 PM
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Unless they're ugly Yes, the absolutely lowest tier of women don't. But feminists have created a situation where even below average women can get attention. Unless they're handsome Oh, you're telling me a small minority of men benefit? Tell me more! I didn't know it was an "incel" place. I still don't actually, no offense. Well, you said you spend too much time on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 08:24 PM
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Statistics bear this out, older women have a harder time marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 08:15 PM
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This is true, and the slut/stud double standard, along with other factors, does create an imbalance. I'm not trying to argue otherwise. But to me, "women are the gatekeepers of sex" suggests that all men are trying to sleep with any woman at all times, and that women never approach, and that men never reject. This is, of course, ridiculous. No it's not, you're ridiculous. Women have an abundance of suitors. Men do not (except for top alphas - see hollywood men and their harems). That's why they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 08:09 PM
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Maybe there are, but women are judged for giving up sex too easily while men are judged for not being able to get sex. That kinda tells you who has easier access to sex by itself and why male incel communities are common while female incel communities are not. Is there a mirror image female slut community? I doubt that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:57 PM
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If you say so http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2011/12/14/barely-half-of-u-s-adults-are-married-a-record-low/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:56 PM
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Again, this isn't true. People aren't all nice. Many people are vindictive and incapable of fully loving anyone. This isn't reserved specifically to women. People scheme and backstab to further their own selfish goals. People cheat and lie and steal. Again, none of this is specifically reserved for women. There are just shitty people in the world of all races, religions, colors, creed, sex, what have you. Have any RPers stopped to think maybe they just go after really shitty people and it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:53 PM
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However, much like the Civil Rights movement, there are factions which have misused the cause to further their own toxic and seemingly militant ideas. For the most part though, those ideas remain on the fringe. Heh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:52 PM
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http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:48 PM
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I learned of a new one thanks to the Zoe Quinn Scandal: WizardChan Then there's that PUAHate board that Elliot Rogers frequented. These are exclusively male communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:47 PM
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Constant validation from society means most women don't mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:45 PM
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Yes? Because just looking at a woman the wrong way is rape nowadays. Just look at what feminists did to college campuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:44 PM
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Marriage rates are going down. Young men today rate having a successful marriage as less important than young men of previous generations, while the importance of having a successful marriage has gone UP for women this generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:43 PM
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"Women are the gatekeepers of sex" is a gross oversimplification and is becoming less and less true. Please tell me why there aren't communities for female incels like there are for male incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:37 PM
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That doesn't answer why you think men are incapable of controlling themselves. Men DO control themselves. Lets be honest, if men acted like males in the animal kingdom, society would be a whole lot more rapey. But we, as a society, said that's not ok, so men need women's consent. That is why women are the gatekeepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:36 PM
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are old For marriage, yes. I was referring to marriage, not cock carouseling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:34 PM
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Heh, yeah ask lonely post-wall women in their 30's and 40's if they still feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:24 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex. They're having sex with shitty men. Good men are being ignored. Good men are figuring out that being good is a loser's bet. You get the behavior you incentivize. Do the fucking math.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:21 PM
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I've got options. Up until 30 anyway. See: Every spinster woman in her 30's/40's full of regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:18 PM
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Yes, reddit hates TRP. However, Reddit sure espouses lots of TRP beliefs: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2ft02u/men_who_dont_want_to_get_married_why/ckcj34b
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:17 PM
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That "agreement" only benefits women in the context of "traditional" households when women relied on a husband for support, and it benefits men far more by ensuring their wife is "untouched," i.e. solely his. It seems to me that agreement was more likely created by men than women. Oh, is that why there's an epidemic of women in feminist societies that are on anti-depressants while women in more traditional societies are happier? Who benefited again? http://www.thumotic.com/feminism-depression-ep…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:15 PM
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I'm glad I had the alpha bad boy experience even though it was traumatic. I'm sure all the lonely dateless betas want to punch a hole in the wall at this sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:10 PM
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So in other words you want to put your fingers in your ears, and blinders over your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:09 PM
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Because if you get constant reinforcement that you're more important than men, you become a selfish asshole. Men are expendable, women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:00 PM
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You're fooling yourself if you think they somehow become mature adults when they finally get that degree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:59 PM
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Women are pretty shitty actually: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ I will have to use virginity statistics as a proxy for the harder-to-measure romancelessness statistics, but these are bad enough. In high school each extra IQ point above average increases chances of male virginity by about 3%. 35% of MIT grad students have never had sex, compared to only 13% of the average high school population. Compared with virgins, men with more sexual experience are likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:58 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2gh1xw/survey_results_young_women_have_more_sexual/ckj1ksq
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:54 PM
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Why isn't being a model citizen, someone who works hard/has a decent job, have a 'nice' personality and not a disgusting slob 'enough'? If you're a woman, you don't even have to be any of those and you STILL get attention. This is really the most important part of that blog post that's relevant to this discussion: So am I claiming that the feminist war on “nice guys” is totally uncorrelated with the existence of the manosphere? No. I’m saying the causal arrow goes the opposite direction from the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:53 PM
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Eggs are vastly more valuable than sperm. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:44 PM
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Just like those older women who can't find a man That's partially their fault and partially feminism's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:43 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex, it's always been true. independantly of the sexual environment - half of which includes men. You mean feminism Given the chance, men will fuck everything they can, that's always been true. There used to be an agreement, unspoken, between women that most women will look for commitment before allowing sex to take place. That agreement is now null and void.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:40 PM
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I find Nice GuysTM use niceness as a way to cover for cowardice and a lack of personality. When you beat up on "Nice Guys", you are basically telling them they should be more like the wife beating Henry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:18 PM
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You don't need to, just open your eyes and see how modern women act.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:01 PM
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attractive husbands AKA small minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 06:00 PM
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More like evolutionary biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:59 PM
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This survey was YOUNG women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:59 PM
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Do you wish to have another go at it? No. meaning fewer women of marriage quality for the rest of men? The mistake you make was thinking those women were of marriage quality to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:56 PM
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I suspect a lot of RP men are mad that they can't find a trustworthy woman to have an LTR with and 'spinning plates' is actually more of a way to exact revenge upon women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:48 PM
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You responded to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:41 PM
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I think if you're a young man who wants to be in a LTR relationship and young women are getting laid MORE than you and cheat MORE than you and basically 100% of them will kick you to the curb if YOU cheat, that's a troubling development, no? My advice to men young and old: Don't marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:37 PM
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Biology has everything to do with it. Take a village of 50 men and 50 women. If the village gets raided and 40 women die while all the men survive, the existence of the village is in jeapordy because the women can reproduce only so much. However, if 40 men die and all women survive, 10 lucky men get to repopulate the entire village. This is why we protect and coddle women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:34 PM
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Just because someone is a women, that doesn't mean they are inherently more selfish. I disagree. It's part biology and part society. A woman's happiness is paramount. In fact, the whole purpose of men is to make women happy. And women get that idea reinforced into them every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:29 PM
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Ryan Gosling is in the top .000000000001 percent of high status men. He can AFFORD to act however he wants and not lose attraction. Don't be stupid. However, there are lots of shitty Ben Roethlisberger alpha shitheads who aren't rich and famous who get laid a ton.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:27 PM
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Women moreso
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:26 PM
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BPers believe that men and women have the same sexual options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:23 PM
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But every time we bring this shit up on reddit you feminists say we don't NEED "mens rights" because Feminism ALREADY TAKES CARE OF THAT. WHICH IS IT - DO WE NEED A MENS RIGHTS MOVEMENT OR ARE FEMINISTS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:56 PM
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Oh, but I thought feminism took care of ALL sexism?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:53 PM
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Stop making excuses. You bring in BILL FUCKING BURR when he's a freelance comedian. He says LOTS of offensive things, but even he doesn't do something as gross as cheer genital mutilation. Stephan A Smith does LOTS of editorializing. That's his job. So the view doesn't have a fanbase? What the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:49 PM
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Now we're making excuses for misandry. This is something mensrights and Terpers address: Nobody gives a shit about men because men are disposable and it's not a new phenomenon. It's been that way for thousands of years. You honestly believe that nobody wrote to CBS about Sharon Osbourne? OBVIOUSLY they did, but feminism is so ingrained in media that they don't really care THAT much. Why else does almost every sitcom and family guy/simpsons type cartoon features a fat dopey incompetent dad and a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:43 PM
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In July 2011, Osbourne and some of her fellow "The Talk" panellists were criticised for their conduct when discussing the story of Catherine Kieu. Osbourne described Kieu's cutting off of her husband's penis and then throwing it in the garbage disposal as "quite fabulous", also laughing about the crime along with a number of other panellists and large portions of the audience. When cohost Sara Gilbert offered the counterpoint "Not to be a total buzz kill, but it is a little bit sexist. If somebo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:34 PM
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Please tell me why she deserves to keep her job, she wasn't even sincere in her apology: In July 2011, Osbourne and some of her fellow "The Talk" panellists were criticised for their conduct when discussing the story of Catherine Kieu. Osbourne described Kieu's cutting off of her husband's penis and then throwing it in the garbage disposal as "quite fabulous", also laughing about the crime along with a number of other panellists and large portions of the audience. When cohost Sara Gilbert offere…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:32 PM
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But that's something most "feminists" and "MRAs" actually agree on as a problem left over from "patriarchal" norms and ideas. AHAHAHAHAAHHAHAH Get out of here. Feminists don't give a flying flip about negative gender roles AS IT RELATES TO MEN. Stephen A Smith said something SLIGHTLY controversial and got suspended over it. Sharon Osbourne said something incomprehensibly offensive and got a slight tap on the wrist (forced to issue a half assed 'apology'). Don't tell me the media hasn't been comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:26 PM
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You didn't watch the video
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:24 PM
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SHE KEPT HER JOB And Bill Burr still has a job. Never said anything ever so offensive, he's a freelancer Stephen A. Smith Never said anything so offensive. WHOOPIE GOLDBERG said almost the same fucking thing and she never got censured. Ann Coulter still has a job. It's her JOB to be a terrible fucking cunt. You could say the same thing about everyone who works at Fox News or who works in rightwing media as a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 04:14 PM
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and Cosmo has said far worse than this, even advocating genital mutilation for perceived slights. I guess sure, it's in jest, but it's pretty offensive and not cool. Only scratching the surface, Sharon Osbourne joked and laughed about a man getting his penis cut off and kept her job. Feminism has infected mainstream culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muuFygvXPAM
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 03:55 PM
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Then again, you can be a mainstream TV host and laugh and make jokes about a man's penis being cut off and keep your job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muuFygvXPAM
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 03:54 PM
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Just a reminder that Sharon Osbourne joked and laughed with glee about that Wife who cut off her husband's penis and KEPT HER JOB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muuFygvXPAM
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 03:53 PM
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Beta is more about grooming/proper fitness. It's also about attitude. Men are raised to be feminized. Not only that, they're taught that the whole purpose of their incompetent existence is to make women happy (see: every sitcom ever). Like I said, women get everything they want. It's time that changes. Unmarried spinsters in their 30's/40's should serve as a cautionary tale to young women, to counterbalance the narcissistic 'ME ME ME' message of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 02:57 AM
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Women are getting what they want though, they got the sexual experience in their youth while getting provisions as they age. What do betas get again? A sexless marriage to a wife that's not attracted to them because they don't measure up to alphas? I'm glad men are going on strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 02:43 AM
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My point is women will ride out the cock caurosel in their youth with alphas, but then settle with betas when their looks start to fade. That's pretty predatory as they're preying on the desperations of betas who never got attention. I think more betas are waking up to women's sexual strategy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 01:41 AM
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Weird, they seem to have no trouble riding the cock caurosel of men who give no fucks about them and have no future prospects, but who have a nice square jaw and rippling muscles. Can't say I respect the choices women make when they form 'relationships' with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 10:22 PM
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Women are more likely to divorce when men lose their jobs http://www.livescience.com/14705-husbands-employment-threatens-marriage.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 09:00 PM
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Women are more likely to divorce when men lose their jobs http://www.livescience.com/14705-husbands-employment-threatens-marriage.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 09:00 PM
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Newsflash, men are more afraid of women and they aren't even TRP (and even hate TRP): http://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2ft02u/men_who_dont_want_to_get_married_why/ckcj34b
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 08:57 PM
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Well that's true of women. No it's not. Feminism has helped average and even below average looking women a lot. The top tier women have gotten royally screwed though. It's the opposite effect on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 08:43 PM
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http://www.livescience.com/14705-husbands-employment-threatens-marriage.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 08:41 PM
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OP, there's one thing you need to know, you're not unique. The world simply doesn't care about you. You're a man. You're not a rich man. You're not a famous man. You're probably not a good looking man. If you were one of the 20% of men or 80% of women, you could skate by life, but you're not, you have to earn your own happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 05:19 PM
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Sure, what part do you want me to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:50 PM
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It's in the same realm of uselessness and really harms the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:49 PM
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Well, like i said, there are so few women worthy of a loving relationship, maybe that's part of his despair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:49 PM
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If anything it's easier to get now and comes with fewer repercussions. For alpha men. There are losers in this new paradigm: Beta men (the overwhelming majority of men) and alpha women. You're probably confused at the last part of that sentence. Let me explain. The most beautiful/high value women are losing out because less attractive women have made sex so cheap, men who are their equal or higher value have no reason to commit to them. It's why alpha women like Bar Raefeli can't find a man easi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:47 PM
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It's probably because he's also looking for the emotional aspect of sex and he is in despair because modern women have become so cold and have detached emotion and sex. It's not just because he can't get sex, it's because there are very few women who are really worthy have having a relationship with these days and he knows it. A prostitute isn't going to help him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:35 PM
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My question is should a beta (virgin to be exact) just kill themselves. Sounds like he is. And sounds like you were trying to give him advice. Do us a favor and keep your advice to yourself. BP "Just be yourself and girls will come to you!" type advice is why men like this are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:30 PM
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And feminism isn't "darwinism" because it has nothing to do with sexual strategy. In the simplest of terms, its about having equal rights Yeah, that's why the National Organization of Women fought against alimony reform. http://www.nownj.org/news-x/press-releases/171-alimony-reform.html It's about female domination, not 'equality'. Stop pretending men are drooling idiots, we have the ability to think you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:22 PM
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This is why BP advice is useless advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:18 PM
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Too bad studies say otherwise: http://www.timesofisrael.com/women-really-dont-go-for-nice-guys-study-indicates/ http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886913012245[5] -The Dark Triad personality: Attractiveness to women -We create high and low male Dark Triad (DT) characters. -We obtain ratings from women of the attractiveness of these characters’ personalities. -Women rate the high DT personality significantly more attractive than the low DT. -Raters also scored the character on …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:16 PM
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Read this entire askmen thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/2ft02u/men_who_dont_want_to_get_married_why/ckcj34b Askmen hates TRP, yet even they admit marriage with a modern woman is stupid as hell because of how women act within a marriage. I have another theory: the rise of the internet has allowed us to communicate with so many more people than before that threads like the askmen thread educate more men about relationships than in the past. Men can now vent anonymously online. How …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:11 PM
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Also in long-term relationships. If that were true, marriage rates wouldn't be shrinking. Men are wising up to how miserable married men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 03:02 PM
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Yeah, early dating you actually get sex and maybe affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:59 PM
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Studies have shown that women are attracted to dark triad traits. Dark triad traits typically don't include being sensitive and communicating your 'feelings' - especially feelings that indicate weakness. Feminism has done a terrific job of destroying gender roles - for women, but has done jack shit for destroying gender roles for men. Read more here: http://www.timesofisrael.com/women-really-dont-go-for-nice-guys-study-indicates/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:54 PM
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When you say 'old traditional gender roles', and say TRP should encourage 'removal' of gender roles, you are implying you are a feminist because feminists want to remove gender roles (which is the biggest lie ever).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:49 PM
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The National Organization of Women fought against alimony reform. Stop pretending that Feminists give a shit about egalitarianism, it's all about female domination. http://www.nownj.org/news-x/press-releases/171-alimony-reform.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:41 PM
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The National Organization of Women fought against alimony reform. Stop pretending that Feminists give a shit about egalitarianism, it's all about female domination. http://www.nownj.org/news-x/press-releases/171-alimony-reform.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:41 PM
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And women may be less likely to cheat They're almost at parity with men thanks to 'sexual liberalization'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:40 PM
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C/P from another post: One way to lose your wife's attraction is to communicate pain and hurt to her, which shows weakness. Women are the root cause of toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:39 PM
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men are less likely to communicate that they're unhappy and therfore the wife/marriage will be less effected than if the wife is unhappy One way to lose your wife's attraction is to communicate pain and hurt to her, which shows weakness. Women are the root cause of toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:37 PM
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Don't fool yourself. When the economic power of men goes away and it becomes the norm that women are breadwinners, women will legislate away alimony. TRP preys on men's insecurities and fears The overwhelming majority of men have no idea what TRP is about, but they're rejecting long term commitments with women. Which nebulous organization/group is behind this? Men have eyes and ears and brains and can see that men are absolutely getting shafted in marriage, TRP isn't needed to remind them of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:34 PM
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Women are the ones to divorce if the man loses his job though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:33 PM
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The wife's happiness is paramount in MODERN marriages as well, don't fool yourself into thinking modern women give a shit about the husband's happiness. This is why men are going on strike and not marrying, we're wising up to the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:30 PM
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The funny thing is, i'm a liberal and i became somewhat TRP because I feel modern day women LACK empathy and are pretty vicious and selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:13 AM
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I dunno, i'm pretty liberal and i lean somewhat TRP. I think libertarianism is pretty stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:11 AM
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I'd like to point out that more women are also opting out of marriage (more common in my generation). Still more important for most than it is for men, but it's a trend that is going to continue for decades. The number of women who says a successful marriage is important to them has INCREASED: http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/ I for one am anti-marriage and view it as a archaic tradition that's had it's time and now nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 07:34 PM
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Yeah i find that hard to believe. Maybe they just don't complain about it out loud, but i guarantee you they are thinking it. Statistically speaking, women place marriage as being important to them much higher than men do and as time goes on, fewer men view marriage as important to them as more men are learning how lopsided marriage is. You don't need to look very far to find women complaining about this: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/society-and-culture/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-2…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 07:23 PM
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You've never met a single woman in her 30's or older? That's odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 07:14 PM
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Yeah, i mean online dating for men = send out hundreds/thousands of messages and cross your fingers. It's not analogous to approaching women IRL. It's figuratively throwing spaghetti on the wall and hoping something sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 06:44 PM
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OKcupid asserts that most men on the site spend the vast majority oftheir time messaging only the top 1/3 of women That's why i said: Outside of online dating Since it removes a lot of the pressure men have with approaching women above their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 06:40 PM
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I guarantee are just aiming for the hottest women in the room who are out of their league and then blaming their being "too nice". You had me up to here. This is incorrect. Outside of online dating, beta men typically don't have the stones to go after the hottest women. Many hot women (like really hot) complain about not getting approached because men are intimidated by them. The only marginally attractive women have no incentive to go after men who are equal on their looks either because the al…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 06:30 PM
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http://www.womanist-musings.com/2011/03/stop-denying-white-female-privilege.html
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 04:45 AM
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Ha ha! No! We actually have a term called intersectionality Black feminism and feminists focus on this the most, I think. Mainstream feminism is basically a movement run by and benefits spoiled middle class/upper middle class white women almost exclusively (other feminists get table scraps).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 03:10 AM
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Modern feminism seeks to even out those discrepancies. Modern feminism seeks privilege without responsibilities or consequences while really doing nothing for men. They don't do shit for fighting against fighting oppressive gender roles (outside of bs lip service) that hurt men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 03:04 AM
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They're not great odds either way anyway. I would have guessed ONS orgasms would have been higher because of the danger/excitement/novelty factor alone though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 03:00 AM
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Women usually don't have orgasms from intercourse period. Only 25% of women get orgasms from intercourse. Feminists are basically advocating women slut it up for validation, which is an even dumber/narcissistic reason than why men want to sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 02:54 AM
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Also, what if she wants an LTR, he lies and says he does, but he doesn't? (This happens a lot IME) Maybe women should consider friends as potential LTR's to get to know them first. "Oh, but he's a friend, i'm not attracted to friends, he probably doesn't even feel that way about me! And even if he did, that's so dishonest! FART"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 02:42 AM
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I don't think women want casual sex usually. It's moving that way due to the messages that women get from society (especially feminists, 'explore your sexuality while you're young!')
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/14 02:38 AM
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Whether it was time or sweat equity. For some men, it's very little time or sweat equity. Some men are naturally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 03:08 AM
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No, it's really women who lie on surveys about sex. Men will give the same number of sexual partners regardless of whether the survey is anonymous or if they're not. Women will give a higher number on anonymous surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 09:11 PM
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gaslight lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 06:13 PM
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Right, so if more than 70% of divorces are from women, it means the overwhelming majorities of divorces are the fault of men and women are rarely at fault. This is why BP isn't taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 11:36 PM
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LMAO, of course you know why they got divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 09:47 PM
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But it says it's stupid for men to get married. That's all that really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 08:36 PM
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You're argument is entirely speculative. Do you have any evidence to back that up? Having gone to church when i was young, i can confirm what he says. If you're part of a religious community and you divorce, you become sort of a pariah in the community. There's a lot of pressure to make marriages work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 03:26 PM
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The more sexual partners a woman had before marriage, the less happy she reported her marriage to be. Men did not report significantly lower marital quality as their number of sexual partners increased." No shit. Women are insanely fucking hard to please. They have this 'grass is always greener' syndrome and they always have options to 'upgrade'. Men are more easily content. It's no wonder women initiate 70+% of divorces. Women in wealthy countries are spoiled rotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 03:24 PM
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Considering women initiate more than 70% of divorces, he might be on to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 03:20 PM
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Want to get rid of the draft? Fight for women's 'right' to be drafted on the front lines. This would also get rid of bullshit wars when you see more women coming home in body bags and debilitating injuries. Nobody bats an eye when a man dies. Society loses its collective minds when women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:33 PM
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White Women are at the pinnacle of what society values and they reap tremendous privileges that nobody else gets. And they're also the most obnoxious when it comes to demanding MORE and MORE. This is why i can't take feminism seriously. It's a movement mostly for entitled middle class/upper class white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:31 PM
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I would be very surprised if you found many feminists in support of "women and children first" Oh i'm sure they don't verbalize their support for it. It's implicit in that they don't march against it. Women's lives are worth more. White Women's lives are worth the most. Every time a photogenic white woman gets kidnapped, the media goes fucking nuts for months on end. Again, tell me why nobody cares that almost 100 little boys were kidnapped by boko haram when we went ballistic when they kidnappe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:17 PM
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Cool, way to ignore the issue. Notice how when Boko Haram was kidnapping girls, Barack Obama made a big fucking deal out of it? But both before AND after, little boys were being kidnapped and massacred and nobody gives a shit. Also, notice how it's always, 'women and children' first? Society implicitly AND explicitly state that men's lives are worth less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:24 AM
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Because bill burr makes the point better than anyone else could. Where are the feminists fighting to equalize deaths between men and women? Oh that's right, cricket sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:02 AM
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Yeah, because feminists are known to fight for women's 'rights' to die alongside men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr162OZ2Z0w&list=RDr3RHLqiJj0I That's why i laughed, i thought it was self evident but apparently i had to explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:59 AM
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Well, was more about your contention that Bar Rafaeli isn't 'pretty', your judgement is suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 12:22 AM
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Bar Rafaeli isn't pretty to me. Ok http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/super-model-rafaeli-laments-single-status-article-1.1489317
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 12:16 AM
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Along with the economic/evolutionary explanations: men are attracted to a much wider range of women than women are to men. Thus men naturally value women while women do not have to value men as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 11:53 PM
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HAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 11:44 PM
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I would advise you not to get into the Red Pill shit. If you're pretty, you can find an attractive guy that isn't a tool. lol, good luck, the attractive guy is fucking lots of women and has no incentive to settle down. Ask Bar Raefeli how easy it is for HER to find a man. Now look at her ex, Leonardo Dicarpio. He IS the cock carousel for hundreds of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 11:42 PM
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Look at college. Men are now presumed guilty until proven innocent in rape cases. And the laughable 'courts' that colleges have installed are run by people who have no business adjudicating those cases. Feminism has always been removing sexual agency from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 06:50 PM
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I agree with this. But women have to be aware of the flipside of the coin: Men have a right to NOT feel attraction to women who wasted their youths chasing alpha tail and now want to settle down because their looks are fading. If you want to see 'pity party', just read these 2 articles: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/society-and-culture/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html http://www.independent.ie/style/sex-relationships/40-and-single-26801376.html Feminists forget that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/14 05:32 PM
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I think a woman who is a serial monogamist who takes her relationship seriously and respects the boyfriend/husband in her life would make me respect her. I don't think 'needs to be a virgin' is a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 10:17 PM
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Alphas and assholes may date or sleep with higher numbers of women, but that is only because women constantly get tired of putting up with their shit and next them. You have the other way around. Because alphas are so rare, ALPHAS are the one nexting. Leonardo Di Caprio dumped Bar Raefeli so he could do this: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/26/article-2331383-1A03D765000005DC-926_634x384.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 10:14 PM
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You forget the other side of the equation too: should men be forced to marry women who are only doing it because they're providers while they road the cock carousel in their youth? The real reason why women are pissed at TRP is because they don't want men to wake up to this reality. Men have choice in the matter too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 07:01 PM
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Blame those damn "Alphas" for ruining it for you poor "Betas" then? Women are the gatekeepers of sex. How? She sounds pretty "dark triad-y" to me. Those are the traits you guys seem to respect. Female love is mercenary. I wouldn't call it dark triad, it's just their nature. Just like men's desire to fuck everything in existence is not dark triad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 06:52 PM
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Anyway, she'll probably only be able to LTR it with someone who looks like her current boyfriend. And this is the problem. She's used to fucking men way above her station in looks but can only settle for a beta/omega man. How could she not be dissapointed/angry/bitter at that? Hypergamy, alpha fux/beta bux is real. She sounds like a female TRPer! That rationalization lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 06:35 PM
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I've always said 20% of men and 80% of women are fucking everything up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 06:18 PM
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But she was fucking alphas like a wild stallion before. From a redpill angle, OBVIOUSLY she doesn't like sex anymore when she has to settle for a beta boyfriend and future husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 06:16 PM
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and I still don't see why it's unreasonable for her to have decided she didn't like something (porn-style sex with facials and anal) and to decide never to do it again. It's one thing if you later find the act disgusting and refuse to do it with ANY man, it's quite another if you put men into defined boxes and only give yourself to them based on which box they belong to. I've even overheard women say shit like, 'i'm glad i'm getting married, i don't have to have sex anymore'. Even PIV sex is bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 05:28 PM
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It's disgusting and dehumanizing to assign arbitrary numbers to people based on subjective levels of attractiveness. Maybe the people she slept with thought she was more than a 3/10 or whatever you believe her to be. She's below average, it's not even debatable. It may be debatable HOW much below average she is. Cheating is bad, betraying someone's trust is bad. No one is defending her for cheating on her boyfriend, but I think the boyfriend is bitter and shitty for posting old history on the in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 05:10 PM
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Maybe the people she slept with thought she was more than a 3/10 or whatever you believe her to be. I know beauty is subjective and all, but it's not controversial to say that she's below average. Now whether you believe her to be slightly below average or REALLY below average may be up to debate. Bar Raefeli is clearly above average. Is that a controversial statement? If she was a man, none of this would even be news. I dunno, if she were a man, i think it'd be huge news, men really don't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 04:04 PM
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I guess if you don't mind catching something. Zoe apparently had unprotected sex. Fucking gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 02:04 PM
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Instead of sucking up to people and providing material bribes, she's slinging them some pussy. It's cheap and effective. Except anyone can do bribes. It's a non-gender specific corruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 01:46 PM
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Or they find her attractive. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh god, i don't think i could get drunk enough to find her even REMOTELY appealing. These men were so god damned thirsty they drank cyanide laced ocean water.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 01:35 PM
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Imagine a man cheating and someone saying they're "set men back in the industry 20 years". Its absurd. That's the thing. This woman is incredibly unattractive and still used her vjay to corrupt an industry. The overwhelming majority of men, even ones you would consider 'attractive' wouldn't have that same opportunity. Just accept that men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 01:31 PM
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Let me just say this, and i'm echoing the other RPer here. If you treat all men that way, it's commendable. If you don't, well, then, can't say i find that all too attractive. It's like the story that was in /r/relationships a while ago where a man found an old tape of his wife doing a gangbang oral, and anal in college and she refuse to even give him a BJ when they were dating or married. Unfortunately, most women have this double standard with alphas and betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 06:05 AM
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ignore the masses of happy Quickly dwindling and many are lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 04:07 AM
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It's because Ryan Gosslings are fucking lots of women and Bar Raefeli probably wants to settle down at 28/29
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 03:55 AM
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No, i wasn't using a woman to make a generalization, i was using observable TRP generalizations and applying it to this woman. Some of it is commentary about how society reacts to these incidents.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 03:35 AM
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I'm pretty sure you've seen my posts on the subject before: http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2czsnx/question_for_bpers_is_it_ok_to_not_want_to_commit/cjllwen
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 03:22 AM
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I gave my explanation from a TRP perspective, i said in my title that BPers are welcome to give their explanation from a BP perspective. I don't think ever example has to 'prove' all women or all men are a certain way, but some of these a great examples that you can fit a narrative to. And you can branch out from the initial post. For example, can BPers explain why a 4/10 man can't hookup with 6/7/8 out of 10 women like that? Bpers ridiculed me when i made the assertion that men and women do NOT…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 03:18 AM
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Like i said, easier for women to do when they have lower SMV and when all women are hypergamous. It's why Bar Raefli can't find a man: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/super-model-rafaeli-laments-single-status-article-1.1489317 While Leonardo Dicaprio has a harem of ever changing nobody women: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/26/article-2331383-1A03D765000005DC-926_634x384.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 03:07 AM
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I wasn't contradicting myself. Alpha Fux, Beta Bux. Women want all those qualities in the same men. Of course there are VERY FEW men who embody BOTH those qualities. That is why women have a dual mating strategy. Either a) She fucks those criminals/'artists' in her teens and twenties and then marries the beta provider in her 30's or b) does both at the same time. Do you even READ trp?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 02:45 AM
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Women are stupid/shallow for caring about every aspect of a man (personality, practicality, compatability, etc) while men are .....somehow not more stupid and shallower for only caring about looks? How is that a good idea? No wonder terpers are notorious for their strings of unsuccessful relationships, all they care about is her body. REAL SMART, DUDE! If women cared about 'every aspect' of a man (lol @ you believing this), they wouldn't be dating drug dealers, criminals, 'starving artists', and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 02:32 AM
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When women go to male strip clubs and grope the handsome/ripped men and blow them (something men won't/can't do at female strip clubs), do you think they give a shit about his personality/ambition/intelligence, etc? Women are practical and care about the whole package. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH. Yeah, you only need to be at least 6 feet tall, be white, have a 10 inch cock, be handsome, be masculine, and have a 6 figure minimum salary. Oh lordy lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 02:12 AM
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I'm a man, i'm not attracted to men and to ME a couple of those men were good looking. None of them are 'significantly below average'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 02:01 AM
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I'm a man, i'm not attracted to men and to ME a couple of those men were good looking. None of them are 'significantly below average'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 02:00 AM
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Yeah you are dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 02:00 AM
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They're not 'significantly below average' don't be retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 01:59 AM
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And because of the rise of women in the workplace in Japan (and elsewhere) and hypergamy, they don't need those men (a slightly more pc way of saying 'women are whores')
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 08:49 PM
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Nobody said anything about 'getting aroused', you can appreciate someone's attractiveness without needing to pull your pants to to rub one/schlick one out. None of those guys are 'significantly below average attraction', you people are crazy and making up ridiculous excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 08:47 PM
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Men in Japan are not becoming productive members of society because betas don't have any incentive to anymore. Look at the rise of the manchild in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 07:57 PM
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None of them are 'significantly below average', which would imply a 1, 2, or POSSIBLY 3 on a 10 point scale. Again, women are insane. This is the reason why PUA and TRP came about. Everyone should be mad about this development, but that anger should be pointed at women. If these men are basically "ugly" in the warped minds of women, then what other choice do ACTUALLY average looking and below guys have?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 07:52 PM
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It will take a while. Take a look at Japan. Who is going to support all the seniors. Who is going to make widgets. Men are regressing and unmotivated. It's happening everywhere, Japan is just ahead of the pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 07:45 PM
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Okcupid women have rated the following men as 'significantly below average': http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/your_looks_and_inbox/chriscoyne.jpg http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/your_looks_and_inbox/crudder.jpg http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/your_looks_and_inbox/sammy.jpg http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/your_looks_and_inbox/mkrohn.jpg The first guy is above average, the second guy i would say is good looking and the last 2 guys are average. In other words, women are insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 07:35 PM
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Don't remember, maybe the rp subreddit. I just bookmarked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 07:33 PM
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The difference between men and women is that men usually mean what they say when they list what they want in a mate while women often betray their subconscious/animal desire. Look at this study: Men are attracted to 'nice girls' but women are sexually repulsed by 'nice guys'. And, as we all know, women have a habit of telling 'nice guys' that 'any woman would be lucky to be with you', or 'just keep being yourself!' http://www.newsweek.com/study-finds-men-nice-women-not-other-way-around-261269
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 07:25 PM
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Society crumbles without stable relationships. When marriage/LTR's decline and sex and love aren't intertwined anymore, then we more resemble animals in the animal kingdom where the alphas keep a harem and betas get occasional scraps. Also, as more men wake up to this fact, marriage, children and society will crumble. Women also hurt themselves in the long run by acting in such a way, women are the ones who actually lose the dating game eventually in such a society: http://www.smh.com.au/federal…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 07:19 PM
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If all women date assholes in their youth, as TRP claims, there must be a huge oversupply of assholes, impossibly huge, in fact. This is incorrect. Women want to date alphas (who may or may not be 'assholes', especially depending on your definition of what an 'asshole' is, it's different for everyone), however, women will settle if they can't find one (of course they won't be happy about the situation). It's why women on okcupid rate 80% of men as 'below average' in looks (talk about warped real…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 07:11 PM
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It's not about it being a moral act, but the fact that sex and love has been decoupled (thanks to feminism), that's a very troubling development.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 06:19 PM
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Here's a graph of divorce rates against women who've had none or many sexual partners (along with other interesting findings related to # of sexual partners): http://i.imgur.com/rrLe319.jpg Lesson: Don't marry sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 06:17 PM
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I think physically he's not alpha (he's average/above average), but remember, alpha is a lot more than that. It can include game (which he has) or status/celebrity. The fact that he can call a woman a 'dirty whore' and make her laugh/attracted to him basically screams alpha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGEO6ig8WsM#t=565 If he was beta, he'd get slapped and screamed at, but because he doesn't give the beta 'provider' vibe and instead he's the sexy/fun/adventurous guy, he can get away with it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 06:09 PM
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He's slept with hundreds of women so i would say, 'yes'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 04:25 PM
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1st girl wasn't drunk, 2nd girl probably was, 3rd girl wasn't. I don't think you created this thread out of good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 06:26 AM
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Of course if we used only anecdotes and outliers, BP would be a worthwhile ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 06:25 AM
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So where the required marrying up of hypergamy? All you've mentioned is dissatisfaction as related to a social norm. I don't know what you're asking, the study is mostly about marriage. Also, hypergamy, as it's discussed on the internet, has really expanded to more than marriage, it's about relationships in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 06:24 AM
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Just realized the video jumps too far ahead for some reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGEO6ig8WsM#t=1 Here's him calling a woman a 'dirty little whore' and making her laugh and getting her attracted to him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGEO6ig8WsM#t=565 Status and confidence matters, words really don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 06:13 AM
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It doesn't use the word hypergamy, but the entire study is ABOUT hypergamy. The distribution of the share of household income earned by the wife exhibits a sharp cliff at 0.5, which suggests that a couple is less willing to match if her income exceeds his. Within marriage markets, when a randomly chosen woman becomes more likely to earn more than a randomly chosen man, marriage rates decline. Within couples, if the wife’s potential income (based on her demographics) is likely to exceed the husba…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 06:02 AM
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Well, except for the first part where he goes in the field and shows that his methods and ideas work on women. It's not what you say that makes you a creep to women, it's what your status is relative to the woman that makes you a creep or a possible sexual partner. If you're complaining about him and men learning these techniques, i only have on thing to say to you: you get the behavior you incentivize.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 05:58 AM
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No shit. It's funny though. And a hilarious illustration of the fact that if a man is good looking/high status enough, he can treat a woman like a 'sex toy' and the woman will play along with it and be attracted to him due to his boldness. Here's a real life example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGEO6ig8WsM&index=28&list=PLE6F7C6DE434E9D55
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 05:45 AM
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Women don't exist to be your walking sex toy Weird how women will forgive alpha men who ACTUALLY treat women like walking sex toys though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbeEuYAZFL4
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 05:32 AM
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hat's the BP "angle"? That hypergamy isn't real or is overstated. I would argue that relationship cases are best looked at individually Or we can turn to science: http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2013/05/further-results-on-hypergamy.html We examine causes and consequences of relative income within households. We establish that gender identity – in particular, an aversion to the wife earning more than the husband – impacts marriage formation, the wife’s labor force participation, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 05:27 AM
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Read what i wrote about Bar Raefeli and Leonardo Dicarpio and hypergamy. Bar Raefeli makes no logical sense when you come at it from a Blue Pill angle. However, from a Red Pill angle, it makes complete sense. I think it's the simplest and purest example of Red Pill: http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2czsnx/question_for_bpers_is_it_ok_to_not_want_to_commit/cjllwen Even fairly attractive female D-list celebrities have a very difficult finding a man she can be happy with: https://www…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 04:26 AM
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Does the girl have a couple screws loose? Is it because she's scared of losing him? Can science explain this? No, it's logical. There was a study done where it showed that men who were surrounded by women were more attractive to other women. However, when those men were by themselves or surrounded by other men, they were less attractive. It's pre-selection at work. Men and women are different. Women are hypergamous so if you have women surrounding you and showing affection, other women are going…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 07:49 PM
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Next you're going to tell me that the woman who dates a man who was sentenced to prison for sexual assault several times (and that she KNOWS this) bears no responsibility when she gets sexually assaulted by the man. You are so devoid of common sense it's not even funny. Rapist? Oh sounds like dating material! Wait, why are you assaulting me??!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/14 06:52 PM
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Just out of curiosity, do you think believe Christy Mack has any culpability for getting her ass kicked? When i first heard of the story, I had sympathy for her as I had no idea of who she or War Machine was. However, my sympathy dropped like a rock when i read War Machine's rap sheet on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_(mixed_martial_artist)#Legal_problems He's literally a violent sociopath with a very long criminal history. You know, i find it ironic that people can be calle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/14 04:52 PM
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TIL ignoring the autonomy of men is the 'logical and honest' thing to do. Putting the responsibility for the actions of men on women's shoulders is the furthest thing from honest or logical. And this is why we can't have nice things in society. Because we put NO responsibility on women's shoulders, we cannot tell women that getting blackout drunk at a frat star's party is a really bad idea that leads to a high risk of sexual assault (truth be told, going to a frat star's party is a bad idea alto…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/14 07:20 AM
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Lets take a hypothetical: Say that tomorrow every single women on earth said they'd only have sex with assholes, do you think that a) the number of men who are assholes would go up exponentially and b) it'd be a reasonable explanation that women created assholes by creating a demand for assholes? This line of thinking only works if you're logical and honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/14 06:23 AM
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It's women's fault that they chase assholes. These idiot fem-children even KNOW that these men are bad for them, but then they have idiotic thoughts like, 'oh but I can CHANGE him'. The arrogance. It's not their fault that they exist, in a vacuum, as assholes. Although, that's changing as more and more men realize that being an asshole is what helps them get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/14 05:29 AM
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That has nothing to do with women choosing idiots to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/14 05:04 AM
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As the gatekeepers of sex, yeah, they kinda are. Men will do the dumbest fucking shit to get laid. I find it odd that we're not allowed to criticize Mack for going after the violent thug who ALREADY had a violent rapsheet, but then again, porn stars aren't exactly known for rational thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/14 03:25 AM
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Meh, i consider myself to be very liberal (anti-war, pro-single payer healthcare, pro-welfare, anti-global warming, pro-progressive taxes, etc) and anti-feminist. It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. There are still big issues with discrimination with race and sexually orientation, but i don't want them tainted by mixing it with feminism. Also, there still are legitimate issues that feminists have, but they've completely poisoned the well so much that any sane feminist needs to reject femin…
/r/MensRights17/08/14 03:00 AM
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Because anyone who chooses to be a porn star is irrational?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 10:20 PM
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Combine these things together: a) Hypergamy/AFBB/Dual Mating Strategy b) The uneven desirability between the sexes (most men are invisible to women) c) the short time women have to chase alphas before they're no longer desireable by alphas anymore d) the biological clock that women have to secure betas that gets louder as they get older and e) Feminists and media telling women, 'you can have it all!', to 'explore their sexuality' and getting rid of slut shaming. And you get a hedonistic reality …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 10:16 PM
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The problem is, he has no solution to the fact that most women have their own sexual strategy that's quite toxic and they have the ability to wield it with great success because most men are thirsty and at a disadvantage (top tier alphas not included). Who practices RP really? Natural alphas who aren't really aware of RP, and a miniscule population of internet folks. To get rid of RP behavior, you really have to reform female behavior (women are the gatekeepers of sex). Female sexual strategy is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 10:01 PM
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They almost have complete control now. Not surprising because women make up the majority of college students now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 09:49 PM
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This is the other thing wrong with Feminism. Yes, it's bad that Mack got fucked up, but you can't make any moral judgments about the fact that these women go after alpha thug bad boys. Here's an idea, maybe women should stop entertaining alphas with prior convictions for violence and the incentive to be an alpha piece of shit would go down (or they'd be considered pariahs in society, rather than 'hot broken men that need to be fixed by a woman'). The real irony of feminism is that their sexual r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 09:45 PM
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The ones rejecting feminism might be. Lol you're so bitter if you believe they need "comeuppance" for enjoying their lives. It's the universe's way of self correcting things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 05:05 PM
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"why i suggest", cool, lots of women aren't listening to that advice. I hope they don't, they really deserve that comeuppance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 05:03 PM
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"until they choose to" LOL, 'choose' to, you mean 'forced' to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gfxjAaZg0&list=PLE6F7C6DE434E9D55&index=39
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 04:58 PM
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Thank you feminism for making society believe that all men are potential rapists, aka '10% of M&M's' and basically introducing 'guilty until proven innocent' kangaroo courts (no, the guy in charge of the college library is NOT qualified to handle a rape case) in colleges.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 04:47 PM
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So maybe we should raise children communally in extended family units? Like with aunts/uncles/grandparents taking care of the kids. BUT MY INDEPENDENCE!!!!!! Funny thing is, as the economy gets worse, whiny bitch millennial are going to have to live with their families. I suppose the "red pill" strategy for women would be: Stop being a slut. Realize that your numerous choices in mates paradoxically makes you MORE unhappy in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 04:46 PM
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I'm going to remember your post the next time a post-30's post-wall harpie shrieks 'WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MEN GONE!?!?' And lol if you think alphas are settling down. It's difficult raising children when both parents are living in seperate households (and you're assuming both parents would even stay in the same vicinity of each other). Having 2 parents is MUCH better for the well being of the child (and i include 2 parent households with gay parents too!). Having high birth rates with low Marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 04:37 PM
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Marriages rates decline -> Birth Rates Decline -> Civilization = fucked because the young have to support the old. Divorces increase -> single parents increase -> Civilization = fucked because people growing up in single parent households tend to have more problems. Those women in that article sure sound bitter though. That sexual freedom doesn't seem like roses when they're all used up and not 'marriage material' anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 04:26 PM
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Marriage rates are falling and as more and more beta men realize that women are just fucking around in their teens/twenties, realize their looks are fading, get scared and try their damndest to snag a beta for provisions. This is what happens when betas figure this out - they sorta turn into alphas and start turning into players with the late twenties/early 30's women who are desperate to lock down a man and have no intention of marrying (or only marrying when they're much older... to much young…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 12:58 PM
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Are you one of those good looking guys who live in a bubble?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 12:45 AM
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It's a rude way of putting it, but the guy in your link isn't wrong though. men still approach more often. That's because men HAVE to approach. Dating is brutal for most men, it's a numbers game. LIke i said, women can get sex more easily than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 12:39 AM
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Having mostly female teachers is a big problem because they tend to discipline boys for being boys and also their curriculum is heavily tailored for girls. Boys like to take things apart and put them together and have competitions, but schools don't like that. I don't know about outside the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 12:35 AM
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I kinda agree, TRP takes things too far sometimes, especially with politics, but at the same time, there's a HUGE unjustified backlash to some things that TRP believes that are just common sense (for example, the idea that women can get sex more easily than men).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 12:00 AM
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Don't get married, don't be obsessed with women, focus on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 11:58 PM
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I didn't say women would be able to snag men who had ALL those checkmarks checked off (those men typically have soft harems of ever changing women they're fucking anyway, not like they'd settle down easily), but that's what women EXPECT.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 11:53 PM
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I like the fact that even another BP poster 5's and 6's are acting like tremendous bitches these days because they spread their legs for 9's and 10's. Have some self respect! Don't jump through hoops for vagina. Learn to not let sex rule tor life. That's what TRP is about. If sex were harder to get from men, more women would be less stringent. Doubt that, if RELATIONSHIPS were harder to get from men, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 11:51 PM
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http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/19/school-has-become-too-hostile-to-boys/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 11:50 PM
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She's attractive. But not approachable. And she'd be more attractive if she smiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 11:12 PM
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Right, so men need to be both alpha and beta for women. Also need to have a good job, be at least 6 feet tall, handsome, broad shoulders, drives a nice car, has a nice house, has ambition, be attractive to OTHER women to keep your interest etc. If only men held women to higher standards than just 'at least average looking' and maybe not a 'completely horrible personality'. I like the fact that even another BP poster here realizes how ridiculous women's standards are. There is literally NO pleasi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 11:11 PM
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I'm just saying, people who smile are more attractive and approachable. Women are fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 10:59 PM
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I don't know a single man that likes a woman who doesn't smile. Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 10:55 PM
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Through media, through schools, etc. The overwhelming majority of boys are taught by women, there are very few male teachers left (because they're presumed to be possible rapists).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 10:51 PM
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but questioning how good those husbands are in the first place is ok. That's feminism for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 10:50 PM
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I don't know about you, but when i look at pictures of women, i find the ones that smile more physically attractive. And in person, the ones that smile seem more approachable than ones that have a 'dark brooding' personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 09:22 PM
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Can't, reddit keeps blocking it, as explained here: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2djy3i/psychologistmarriage_counselor_why_great_husbands/cjqaj19 Can you see my pastebin link?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 09:03 PM
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Women are attracted to dark triad personalities... in fact they are turned off by men who smile and are more turned on to men who have a dark, brooding style (i posted a bunch of studies here): http://pastebin.com/RzF3Q19r In a PERFECT world, nice guys would be able to get the girl. Actually, funny anecdote, i was reading an interview with Emma Watson and she said that when she was attending Brown University, some random guy just walked up to her and asked her out. It was weird for her because, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 08:57 PM
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I believe he was trying to reply to me, but replied to you by mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 08:14 PM
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One more time since reddit is blocking it: http://pastebin.com/RzF3Q19r
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 08:08 PM
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Well apparently it's being blocked, but here it is over at pastebin: http://pastebin.com/RzF3Q19r
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 08:07 PM
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Here it is at pastebin: http://pastebin.com/RzF3Q19r
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 08:07 PM
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Reddit's blocking it for some reason, i put it to pastebin: http://pastebin.com/RzF3Q19r
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 08:06 PM
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I don't think a man having both alpha and beta characteristics means 'captain/first mate' (but i do think the captain/first mate model is a good one), it means that a man can't be 100% alpha (i.e. like a criminal bad boy who gets all the girls) in a LTR because he'll lose the woman eventually and has to show some beta characteristics (i.e. showing love and affection) to keep the girl. I don't think men and women need to adhere to any sort of order to have a good relationship. They just need two …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 07:36 PM
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Reddit, amazon, yahoo, scientific american, science direct... doesn't exactly sound objectionable. Wish they'd tell me which one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 07:32 PM
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because women are still disadvantaged in many ways. You probably responded to the wrong person, but even in those so-called remaining disadvantages like employment, i think the pendulum has swung to the other side too far. Corporations are moving more and more towards this: http://i.imgur.com/zBLT2Gm.png But you have fat acceptance bloggers who also happen to be "feminists" preaching that overweight women have a right to be overweight, while also having a right to date guys that look like this. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 07:31 PM
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Traumatic events like a relative dying or losing a loved one can trigger clinical depression though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 07:11 PM
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What rule is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 07:05 PM
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Not to THIS level of course. There was never a hookup culture and any casual sex was done on the 'down low' rather than celebrated by pop culture and feminism. Casual sex was looked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 07:00 PM
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A much more reasonable Bluepill post. However, I think feminism has to take the brunt of the blame here. The "You can have it all!" and "Explore your sexuality!" themes that feminism has pushed on women has been absolutely destructive to relationships in general. It used to be that love and sex were one and the same. Women used sex to secure commitment and men used commitment to secure sex as well. Feminists decoupled love/sex/commitment and now we have a hedonistic hookup culture with alpha men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:58 PM
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Apparently, people can't see my dark triad studies link, so i copied/pasted it into the thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2djy3i/psychologistmarriage_counselor_why_great_husbands/cjqa1yz
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:53 PM
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So you think we should use the promise of sex as an incentive to be a good member of society? Yes, because sex and love used to be one and the same, but feminists have successfully decoupled both ideas (hookup culture). When women used sex to attain commitment and men used commitment to attain sex, it was better for society. Now society is all sorts of fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:51 PM
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I think i know what you're talking about, a study that compared people who put more thought into how they look/dress vs. those that didn't (which is supposedly to show 'narcissism', which is ridiculous). Anyway, i'm also talking more about romantic/sexual attraction as well, not attraction in terms of who you want as a leader or who you vote for. Here are the studies i'm talking about: http://www.reddit.com/r/PunchingMorpheus/comments/2acmoe/studies_women_are_attracted_to_dark_triad_traits/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:44 PM
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Ahh yes. The classic "it's the woman's fault" because she left a relationship she wasn't happy with from TRP. You people need to tone down on the fear mongering of evil women and realize there's just as many shitty males out there. These men were 'perfect' in the eyes of feminists, they were feminine, supported their wives in their careers/being in charge, shared the house chores, etc. What more do you want, chop off their penises too? You've lost all respect/credibility you've had left by using…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:38 PM
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We got to this point BECAUSE feminists wanted to be large and in charge while they hammered in the feminization of men since boyhood. Yeah, people should choose what gender roles they want, but women want BOTH alpha and beta characteristics in men, IMPOSSIBLE (this is why there's a dual mating strategy for women). You also forgot to quote this part, the author replied that she agreed with this man's assessment: Well, I'm sure I'll be criticized for it but here goes......women just seem to want w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:33 PM
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Initial attraction? Like first sight? I would think that it's completely superficial. It is, but it doesn't negate it's importance. Yes Here you go http://www.reddit.com/r/PunchingMorpheus/comments/2acmoe/studies_women_are_attracted_to_dark_triad_traits/ Again, what does being a good member of society have to do with marriage? If hookup culture didn't exist and sex was incentivized by being a productive member of society, you'll see more productive men. So why would a woman not be hypergamous? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:25 PM
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Without knowing the dynamics of every marriage or committed relationship, you cannot know why people have the desire to leave a relationship. No one just leaves a good relationship for no reason. I would argue than in our society of instant gratification, we are all searching for the feeling of euphoria that we get from a new relationship instead of fostering happiness (a state of being as opposed to an emotion). You're kind of agreeing with me here. This is especially true for women, they have …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 06:13 PM
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Because those women are selfish, hypergamous, and narcissistic. Interesting how you never ask about whether the wives are great to begin with. Also, because very few women are attracted to 'sensitive guys' on a base level. If you ask women directly, of course they say they like 'nice guys' though. But of course, what women say and what women do are often at odds with each other. Also, women are incentivized to divorce because of laws that benefit her. See what Robin Williams had to go through wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 05:22 PM
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Hypergamy doesn't always mean 'money', it could be looks, game, status, etc. Many of those women could have had their hypergamy fulfilled already as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 01:44 AM
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http://pjmedia.com/drhelen/2014/03/03/hypergamy-cars-and-phone-numbers/ However, a study on status in the book shows otherwise: In a carefully controlled experiment (Guéguen and Lamy 2012), researchers tested the idea of how important status is to women. They placed men in expensive cars and instructed them to approach women and ask for their phone numbers. Then they had the men do the same thing in medium- and low-status cars. The results? The men were successful 23.3 percent of the time when w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 12:33 PM
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BP, being feminists, promotes 'sex positive' (aka slutting around) behavior. Sluts are typically idiots, or at least psychologically broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 12:29 PM
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Well gosh, you sound happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 01:36 AM
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A husband who happens to be a 4 would have very few options to cheat, especially with a 10 mistress. In this case, a 4 wife is cheating with a 10 male paramour. Not surprising at all - hypergamy in action. There's a natural firewall that prevents many men from cheating, especially those with low SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 01:30 AM
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It's emotional cheating with some physicality involved. No man or woman would put up with their SO's displaying such behaviors. Again, if she's doing it for 'ratings', that doesn't sound very good, now does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 12:44 AM
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2 actually. And this wasn't proof about 'all women', it was an illustration. Not even the shame of cuckolding their men on national tv stops these women from doing it. All women are hypergamous, not all women are sluts (although, that may be changing unfortunately).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 10:16 PM
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No, the thesis is that women will cheat even when the world is watching them do it. The other thesis is that women have more opportunity. Imagine the reverse: a 4 male getting with a 10 female. I'm sure it's happened, but it sure is a helluva lot more rare. Women are hypergamous and men are hypogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 09:23 PM
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That's poppycock, Asymmetry of Information IS a market failure and has nothing to do with government. When you go to a mechanic, unless you know a lot about cars, they can say whatever the fuck they want about what needs getting fixed and you basically have to trust them not to screw you over. This dynamic doesn't change when government isn't present.
/r/RedPillWomen12/08/14 08:59 PM
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yes -- any woman will admit to you that she can go out and get laid at a bar any night she wants basically -- even ugly/large ones I don't know, it seems to me that women pretend this isn't the case, maybe so betas/whiteknights don't lose complete hope. Women are some of the most dishonest people when it comes to relationship advice ("just be yourself!" yadda yadda). but men have it easier in other ways, such as we're not judged as much by our hair/body/etc I think most men would trade in being …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 07:17 PM
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I personally don't believe that 'religious virgins' are ideal and one of the things TRP is wrong about (some RPers are coming to this conclusion). The EXCEPTION is if the woman in question fully knows about and fully embraces RP thinking. Women with high sexual counts are AWFUL marriage partners though: http://i.imgur.com/rrLe319.jpg It appears women who marry as virgins are still statistically better in terms of stable marriages/happiness, but it doesn't say anything about cheating behind their…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 07:04 PM
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as a self-respecting guy i personally wouldn't put up with it The problem is, a lot of men would. Women aren't held accountable. What drives me up the wall about BP is when they say incredibly stupid shit like, 'men and women have the SAME opportunity for sex', i mean, even someone who isn't into RP/BP shit knows that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:54 PM
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Judging from his response, he's not, he's just not holding his wife accountable, and only the alpha in question. Which is why society is fucked up in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:52 PM
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Men are hypogamous, women are hypergamous. Men aren't as picky with sexual partners (Cody [a 10] and Christine [a 4] are GREAT examples of this), while women are typically more picky, especially if they're more beautiful. It's why someone as hot as Bar Raefeli complains about why she can't get a man (i'm going to c/p a post i made a few days ago): Hot women don't have it easy, you're actually wrong about it. You think it's a linear relationship: ugly women have it bad, average women have it sort…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:50 PM
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Well, again, this woman is cucking her husband and broadcasting it internationally. There's no shame anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:47 PM
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Right, i'm not saying all women would do what these women do on the tv show, but there are 2 things at work here: a) The urge is still there and b) The opportunity is there, even for someone as unattractive as Christine. She's a 4/10 (her beta husband is about the same). If less attractive men had the ability to do what these women do, they would act shitty as well. There's a natural firewall that prevents that for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:46 PM
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BB is different than most reality tv shows, it gets streamed 24/7. A lot of juicy shit between Christine/Cody isn't even on the actual TV show, it's over the webcam. And the husband isn't part of the show. He's acting like every other beta ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:41 PM
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It's not like Cody is beating her over the head like a caveman and dragging her back to his cave. Feminists don't want any accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:40 PM
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Ask the unmarried 30+ year old women who rode the cock carousel. The thing i forgot to mention is that the 2 people in question are heavily religious and they met when they were teens and were each other's firsts. So Christine has the urge to see what she missed out on. In this case, it's a man about 6 points higher than her on the looks scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:39 PM
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Ahhhhhh, i gotcha, forming factions allows women to cheat. I think i know what the hamster is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:36 PM
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Game show/voting makes people become adulterous? Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:30 PM
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Either that or there's a logical inconsistency for feminists at play here. Rejecting a relationship with someone who's a slut is the ultimate slut shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 12:00 AM
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Ok, then lets put it this way, it's the fault of the overwhelming majority of women and the shitty ass 20% of men who happen to be alphas. And that shit is incentivizing people to do PUA and TRP. But really, women need to start learning to take responsibility. Our society is setup to say it's never a woman's fault and that she can have it all. Just look at what women consume: Sex and the City, Twilight, 50 shades of Grey. I can't take women seriously when they basically broadcast to the world th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 07:29 PM
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Hot women don't have it easy, you're actually wrong about it. You think it's a linear relationship: ugly women have it bad, average women have it sorta ok, and hot women have it made. If we were to chart it out, it'd actually look more like a normal distribution curve rather than a straight line going up diagonally up. It's actually the 'not' hot women who have it easy. Because of the hypergamous nature of women and hypogamous nature of men, the REALLY hot women don't have as many options. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 07:24 PM
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Right, i didn't say that you WOULD, i'm just saying that you can (while men can't) (edit: one exception, celebrity men could probably pull it off, their SMV is off the charts) This whole 'walking around and asking men to have sex with you' is more of an intellectual exercise to show the disparity between the genders when it comes to obtaining sex in general, rather than, 'oh this is something men and women do regularly'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 06:56 PM
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The thing is, if you went around to guys and said 'fuck me', you'd easily be able to find a man who you're attracted to who will. An average guy can't do that. Even a good looking guy can't really do that either, they'd have to work some.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 06:24 PM
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TRP is full of beta men trying to be alpha. Women are incentivizing alpha behavior by chasing alphas. Not sure how this is such a hard concept for you to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 05:56 PM
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Can't really tell whether a woman has STI's or not based on just looking at her, but it's a normal reaction to be disgusted at a woman who has a high partner count as it indicates she is at risk for STI's (plus it also indicates really poor decision making, especially if her partners are all idiot alpha bad boys). I personally wouldn't want to do anything with sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 05:55 PM
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Yeah, you're the brick wall. Commercials, TV, Movies, Magazines, Internet/Social media, Newspapers and most radio is dominated by catering to women. Shit, even reddit is trying to be feminized, after they made twoxchromosomes a fucking default sub. And it makes sense, because women are the spenders in the economy. Woah, you found an outlier, that must mean the rest of it is false!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 04:43 PM
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1) I think a lot of TRP guys want commited relationships but are supremely pissed off at the way women act, so they give up the idea of LTR's completely. Betas are viewed as the cornerstone of society, but because society treats them like shit while Alphas build harems, what choice do they have? 2) Women are the gatekeepers of sex. If women started rejecting alphas, then we wouldn't have this problem in the first place. It used to be that you couldn't really BE an alpha like you could today beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 04:39 PM
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You didn't disprove anything I just said except for citing the example about women mostly being slut-shamers, which I agree that most of them are, but your point was completely irrelevant to my point. It's completely relevant to your point. Shitty media is the fault of women. How else do you explain fifty shades of grey/twilight where abusive alpha men are glamorized? Because that's what many women want. Women still aren't allowed to show their boobs on cable. Don't pretend to not know that. Aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 04:31 PM
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Call me back when all the major tabloids stop taking pictures of women at the beach having fun and nitpicking their weight Media created by and consumed by women. Also remember: slut shamers are mostly women, not men. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html?_r=2& Stigmatizing female promiscuity — a.k.a. slut-shaming — has often been blamed on men, who have a Darwinian incentive to discourage their spouses from straying. But they also have a Darwinian incentive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 04:20 PM
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That's great, you don't agree with it. Society does, that's the problem. You're not listening. That's the other problem. Get back to me when it's ok for men to create commercials where they turn their wives into cuckqueans rather than the other way around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRXrhTL5u0E
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 04:11 PM
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lol, you are crazy. I'm not disagreeing with you on a lot of things, but you are basically denying reality. This is why i stopped being a feminist. You're enablers for people like sharon osbourne.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 04:08 PM
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No, of course not. But most men were also given a shit sandwich too. The chieftans/leaders of the villages had harems of women and didn't have to do the dirty work while the rest of the men did the dangerous work. What i'm saying is, just admit that women basically control the media and what's acceptable to say and not say in society nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 04:02 PM
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Sorry, but women have near complete control of the media. You're absurd. And the idea that men are disposable isn't a recent phenomenon. In ancient days, if a village has most of it's men die out, then that's ok because a few men could impregnate the women and they could grow the village again. If most women died out, then they'd be fucked because there's only so many women who could give birth to repopulate the village. That's why society was setup the way it was in those days: men did all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:56 PM
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But Sharon Osbourne DID keep his job. I mean, jesus christ, a man joking and cheering on a woman getting her clit cut off wouldn't even have the episode air or would cut to commercials or 'technical difficulties' if it was a live broadcast. That's the point. Men are disposable and there's an implicit agreement that putting down men is ok in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:50 PM
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BP is turning into some sort of weird cult. I mean, you don't have to agree with everything RP says, but unequal access to sex is such an obvious 'thing' that even your average person off the street who has never heard of RP and BP knows it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:42 PM
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If men and women had equal access to sex, why is it that there's a PUA community for men where men will pay THOUSANDS of dollars and spend HUNDREDS/THOUSANDS of hours learning how to attract women while there isn't a similar community for women? Don't be absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:39 PM
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I don't think they were heavily criticized. Michelle Obama correctly thought she could say it without too much condemnation, and really only conservatives and reddit MRA's criticized her comments. Men = dumb, women = smart is a common theme on TV and belief women have, don't be daft. SHARON OSBOURNE KEPT HER JOB. Again, you have to imagine a man joking and cheering on a woman getting her clit cut off. Do you honestly believe he'd keep his job as a media personality? This question only works if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:35 PM
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Or, under 50% of women married the best sex of their life. It doesn't add up to 100% for some reason. But look at men, the MAJORITY married the best sex of their life (which is no surprised because there are so many sexless beta men). Hypergamy: It's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:24 PM
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You're agreeing with red pill: Sex worth having means sex with Alphas. The majority of men aren't alphas. So women will have sex with Alphas and Alphas, who like variety and power that comes with sleeping with lots of women will gladly sleep with women below their status/looks. So these women aren't eating 'shit sandwiches'. Edit: Oh, forgot, they do have to settle for shit sandwiches when their looks start to fade then have to settle for betas though. Answer me this: If men and women had equal …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:19 PM
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Actually, women ARE allowed to say women are smarter than men: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/6/michelle-obama-women-are-smarter-than-men/ Just how disconnected are you from reality? RP is a dark corner of the internet that hardly anyone knows about. Shit, you can even CHEER about a man getting his penis cut and KEEP YOUR JOB in the media: http://www.mrctv.org/videos/sharon-osborne-leads-laughs-about-male-genital-mutilation Imagine a man cheering/joking about female genital mutilia…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:13 PM
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They're only reporting a survey some OTHER site did http://www.ivillage.com/married-sex-survey-results-sex-week/6-b-520245#520280
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:08 PM
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http://nypost.com/2012/11/25/nobody-marries-their-best-sex-ever/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:54 PM
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Yes, there's no doubt that women enjoy sex with alphas and only alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:50 PM
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Now they just trade sex for alpha tingles. Or in the case of clueless betas, the promise of sex through marriage/commitment/resource allocation. (this promise is broken often by 'spreadsheet wives').
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:47 PM
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Of course sex is a transaction. It used to be that women implicitly asked for commitment before they gave up sex. Now they just trade sex for alpha tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:46 PM
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A lot of RPers love sluts actually. But this is what RPers talk about when they talk negatively about sluts - There's no doubt that sluts are BAD for society - they lower the cost of sex and thus lower the willingness for men to commit. Hookup culture has exploded and LTR's/Marriages are declining as a result. It's a bit more meta than merely 'eww gross'. That's quite a bit different than what women do: shame sluts because they're 'gross'. They also have the same attitudes against prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:43 PM
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And? The creators chose to make Homer Simpson to be a fat bumbling idiot, what's his attractiveness, like a 2 out of 10? Marge is the very definition of a 5 in attractiveness (and far smarter than homer). That brings me to another point: in society, you're allowed to say 'women are smarter than men' without any repercussions. But oh boy, if somebody says the opposite on TV, there'll be hell to pay. Again, it's about the messages these shows send to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:31 PM
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Misjudging someones bad character is not as big a flaw as having the bad character. If you don't know that the guy with no job, deals weed/is in a band, sleeps with lots of women is not a good LTR and probably not a good father figure, then i don't have any respect with those women who even entertain the idea of sleeping with him. less assertiveness, less status, less power, Aka, less likely to impregnate you and leave
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:28 PM
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This is why i don't like BP. RP may exaggerate some things, but get real, women have NO trouble getting sex if they want to while there are a ton of incel men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:24 PM
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Lets not flip that around, when i say 'astonishingly hot wife' i mean the fact that the man in question is way below average in looks and the wife is average or slightly average (but still WAY above her husband). Lets not pretend Marge Simpson is a looker.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:23 PM
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It's women who slut shame, not men: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html?_r=3& “Women are indeed very capable of aggressing against others, especially women they perceive as rivals,” said Dr. Vaillancourt, now a psychologist at the University of Ottawa. “The research also shows that suppression of female sexuality is by women, not necessarily by men.” Stigmatizing female promiscuity — a.k.a. slut-shaming — has often been blamed on men, who have a Darwinian in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:19 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers to sex. They are the ones that really choose their mates. If they're sleeping around with irresponsible alphas, that's they're fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:17 PM
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AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is why RP exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:48 AM
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This isn't hypergamy in it's purest form. It's ignorance and poor decision making at it's highest form. Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:46 AM
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Men really don't have an incentive to do it (EXCEPT in the case where they find out that their SO is a slut); women have a LOT of incentive though: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html?_r=2& Stigmatizing female promiscuity — a.k.a. slut-shaming — has often been blamed on men, who have a Darwinian incentive to discourage their spouses from straying. But they also have a Darwinian incentive to encourage other women to be promiscuous. Dr. Vaillancourt said the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:41 AM
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In the words of L'Oreal: "Because you're worth it!". Women are bombarded with messages everywhere that they're special little snowflakes and deserve everything that their heart desires. Just watch any sitcom or any cartoon - it's an ironclad trope that the husband is a fat bumbling idiot while the wife is always incompatibly hot and smart and has to clean up after his messes. This HAS warped women's expectations and a LOT of women are dissapointed that the messages they've been fed by feminists,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:36 AM
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I don't think 'all women are x', unlike RP, i think there are more 'unicorns' than they admit to. However, I think it's batshit insane to ignore reality; there are simply FAR fewer good women to have LTR's with. I think a lot of RP men don't really care to fuck as many women as possible either, they are really dissapointed that there is a dearth of good LTR women. Feminism has been an absolute disaster for women AND men; the message [from feminists/corporations/media] has been that you can have …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:24 AM
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Why don't you place any blame or responsibility on the 'dark triad'? There is nothing acceptable about dudes going around manipulating women and freely pumping & dumping without a care in the world, and then when there are consequences it's OK for them to "cut and run" because it was the woman who was promiscuous and made a bad decision. You're basically saying women are stupid and have no agency. Women need to learn consequences. If they don't want to go for the responsible beta, well, that's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:15 AM
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Because it's glaringly hypocritical and awfully convenient that ya'll belong to the gender you believe gets to have the most fun. Hehe, it's funny because it's only a small percentage of men who get to have fun. There are tons of male incels. Even below average looking women can at least get sex if they wanted to without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:05 AM
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Why is it when men say RP shit, it's the devil's gospel, but when women do it, nobody bats an eye? http://totalsororitymove.com/the-types-of-guys-just-not-worth-dating/ The problem is, we want a man who takes what he wants. We want a man who knows who he is and is cool with it. Every guy can’t be a #fratstar. Some guys need to be skinny. And smart. And nerdy. And that’s totally cool, too. We like those boys because someday when we’re sick of being treated like shit, we end up marrying them. http…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 03:00 AM
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This might surprise you, but a) women don't like men asking about their sexual history and b) women lie about it (literally, the default is '4 to 5 guys', it's like a 'thing' women do these days). The thing is, the woman who fucked 73 guys was SURPRISED and devastated at her fiancee's response, if she knew how guys really felt about women with that high a count, i bet you she would have lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:48 AM
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The problem is, not every woman is honest like the one i linked to. That's another scary thing for men. There are so many stories about how women hide their sexual pasts, like this one redditor who posted about how he found a sex tape of his wife having a 4 some with other men in college and they were doing anal and other wild stuff that she wouldn't do with him and it destroyed him. I think it's not a bad thing for men to fear and be paranoid about such stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:47 AM
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Hookup culture has exploded since then. I don't see how you can argue that more people having more casual sex is conducive to good LTR's down the road. Marriage and commitment has gone down the shitter SINCE 1995. IIRC, i remember there was a study done that showed that women who have more sexual partners have lower self esteem. Why would anyone want to marry someone like that, there's just too many reasons why it makes sense to shun a woman who has too many sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:44 AM
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I don't think slut shaming is really a thing that men do, but women certainly do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:42 AM
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I think part of it is because women know at a certain age, their SMV goes plummeting down and they have to lock up a beta otherwise they're SOL. They can't go banging alphas forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:39 AM
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Well, i said most women, not all women. It's kind of a stereotype that women want to settle down eventually, at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:38 AM
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Just a hypothesis, but i'm guessing women are getting these STD's from the upper echelon alphas who are high risk of getting STD's. Men who sleep with hundreds of women are spreading it to all other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/14 02:37 AM
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Huh, weird, telling your fiancee that you won't marry her because of her sexual history would seem to be more devastating to hear than some random guy telling you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 05:59 PM
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https://www.bcm.edu/research/centers/research-on-women-with-disabilities/reprod/modules/sexually.html Most STDs are more easily transmitted to women than to men. Women are twice as likely as men to get gonorrhea, hepatitis B, and HIV (AIDS). Kinda makes sense, fluids go into women more easily than men (obviously).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 05:58 PM
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I'm cool with women rejecting men with high n'counts... the thing is, that man probably doesn't even want to marry anyway. On the flip side, whether you're a slut or saint, most women have biological clocks that tell them they gotta settle down sooner or later, which is what's dangerous for men, especially provider males who probably don't have all that much relationship experience. Also, women get STD's much easier than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 05:46 PM
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I think a man with a lot of options but who looks for committed relationships is commendable (if naive, considering the state of dating and marriage) though. Same goes for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 05:33 PM
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Thing is, if you decide to leave a woman over her sexual past, feminists will decry slut shaming. So it's ok to slut shame in certain instances? If i were a woman i wouldn't want to marry a man with a high partner count either, because the man has options. Which is kinda why women will fuck those men for fun, but will marry the dependable beta guy with a decent job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 05:27 PM
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done thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 05:17 PM
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Cosmo isn't about delegitimizing consent. Or calling men stupid & one dimensional. Or about finding emotionally fragile men to manipulate Yeah, that's what feminist controlled media is for. See every sitcom with a stupid fat man with an astonishingly hot wife who berates him for being stupid. Edit: forgot cartoons as well, idiot husbands galore (i.e. simpsons, family guy etc). They're even reaching children with that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 11:40 PM
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No matter where you stand on the social ladder, beating your girlfriend and throwing punches at your friends and family members over minor disagreements isn't a step in the right direction. Doesn't sound very red pill to me. Someone who subscribes to red pill doesn't get angry easily, they have a strong frame and embrace stoicism. Sounds like you're making up a caricature of what RP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 04:04 AM
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If the whole thing is true, I am not sure if the gym would channel the violence or increase it For me, lifting weights has decreased my aggression considerably. Right after lifting, i'm more mellow than a monk high on chronic. Since i left 4 times a week, i'm pretty much mellow all the time. My posture is better and my confidence has soared.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 03:05 AM
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And that's kind of the problem. Men go out of their way to help women (especially the ones they find attractive) while men typically don't get squat from men or women. That's why many women have become entitled/spoiled in our society. Along with other BS like women getting lighter sentencing vs. men for committing the same crimes or the belief that women can hit men with impunity and men aren't allowed to retaliate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:14 PM
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RPers will say they wouldn't help a women if they wouldn't help a man in the same situation. Seems fair to me. If all men acted that way, women would go apeshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 12:48 AM
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The OP may be surprised, but there are only so many rich men to go around. I know, shocking that there aren't enough to marry. It's called 'settling', and one of the reasons why America has such a high divorce rate: American women are spoiled and get angry that they have to settle for 'less of a man'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 12:46 AM
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Withholding sex is a reason not to get married. That does not mean sex is the sole reason to get married. You are bad at logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 01:44 PM
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Do they not go out? Average women get hit on constantly, as far as i can see.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 05:14 PM
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Problem is, the women have a validation (a false validation), he has none. The issue with women's delusional requirements is a more intractable problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:28 PM
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Did you NOT read the sentence after? I basically agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:10 PM
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Read this: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2bp3d6/if_women_cant_give_men_dating_advice_can_men_give/cj7i3ja Lower SMV women want nothing to do with Lower SMV men (until they hit the wall).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:04 PM
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To some degree i agree with that, however, that's really the fault of women. There are many men who are good men ("nice guys") even, but women have deluded themselves into believing a) They can secure an alpha and b) these alphas want commitment to these women, rather than fucking as many women as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:44 PM
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Did you really a) Insinuate i'm gay to try to make me mad b) Find the most unflattering photo you could of Leo doing everyday things and not even on a runway or anything and c) Find a red carpet papparazzi shot dolled up in makeup and expensive clothes of his supposed girlfriend to compare the two? Lets do this again: Here's Leo: http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23300000/handsome-leo-3-leonardo-dicaprio-23352465-500-697.jpg Here's his 'girlfriend' sans heavy makeup/nice lighting: http://im…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 08:35 PM
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No, he's really not. He's not a 10 in terms of physical attraction. He just has good game. Many of the women he's dating could easily do better. He's a 10, don't be absurd. But you're forgetting one thing, what makes a man attractive is not only his looks, but also his status as well (edit: he's a 10 already even if he WASN'T a celebrity though). He may have good game, but he sure as hell doesn't need it. He could just approach women on the street and bluntly ask them for sex and he'd get a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 04:29 PM
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Who is more attractive than Leo? He's a 10. Him, Brad Pitt, Clooney etc. are at the top of the food chain. He has equals and lower. He's not dating women, he's fucking them. And these are nobody women too. Your mistake is that you think a top tier hollywood man gives a shit ONS is a celebrity or not (he doesn't). The only reason why he MIGHT care about who he's with when paparazzi/hollywood gossip 'reporters' are around is because it's good business to have another celebrity attached to you, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 04:04 PM
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Just like a 9 or 10 women might every now and then settle for a 5 guy, but it's not going to be a common experience. This is far rarer. Look at Bar Raefeli, she's bitching that she can't find a man. Now compare that to her ex-Leonardo Dicaprio. He basically has an ever changing harem now. Men date down, women don't (until they hit the wall).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 03:54 PM
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but 4s and 5s? They absolutely do. They can still attract men (even 9's and 10's), but maybe only for ONS I have a feeling that most RPers were average looking guys in high school and college, trying to date women in the 8 to 10 range. No shit you had to go through hell to attract attractive women. If you're a 5, you should date a 5. If only it worked that way, 9/10 men will happily sleep with these 4's and 5's and they get the idea that they have more SMV/deserve higher SMV as a result (not rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 03:33 PM
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Men need to go through hell to attract a woman (unless they're in the top tier of status/attractiveness). Women expect/are expected to be acted upon and generally don't have as much problem attracting a man. The only advice men can really give to women is that too many women waste their youth chasing bad boys and moan about not being able to find marriage material when they've hit the wall, but that's not exactly a secret nowadays. This is really something their mothers should be teaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 03:11 PM
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You can't talk a women into being more attracted to you by telling her your problems. It has the OPPOSITE effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 01:17 AM
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Women don't really want the relationship to end. Under ideal circumstances, she can get the alpha lover and beta provider in one man, but this is very rare. In most circumstances, the woman settles for a beta, but she lusts after the alpha. It's not that her sex drive is destroyed, it's destroyed for her husband
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 01:04 AM
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They were often flings lasting a week to a month. Wow, a week to a month? Mr. Commitment here! Again, he treated them as disposable cum dumpsters. I've never heard him speak disrespectfully about them. It would surprise you that most women want more than a week or month long fling. Your brother's astounding good looks mitigated their disappointment/anger/hurt though. A lesser man would never get away with that. I'll assume that they settled down with someone else Yes, beta herbs who aren't nearl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 08:53 PM
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How is a woman supposed to know that she'll lose attraction years down the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:59 PM
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Well yeah, a man can cheat, but my post was assuming he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:55 PM
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But the dangerous thing is, she may not have a high libido for her HUSBAND. That's were AF/BB comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:46 PM
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It's possible the change to a secure relationship changes her libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:43 PM
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But men still have a ton more testosterone than women even after that drop. But it appears this lack of sexual interest from women doesn't have much to do with hormones, especially considering that women's libidos SUPPOSEDLY increase after 30. It sounds more psychological.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:36 PM
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Err, are you not reading the article? Conversely, the team found a man's libido remained the same regardless of how long he had been in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:27 PM
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"Researchers from Germany found that four years into a relationship, less than half of 30-year-old women wanted regular sex." Remember the lie about how women's libido starts to really ramp up at 30? YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH NO
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:26 PM
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It's just the way women are built.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:24 PM
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I can imagine making the same boring love over and over again for 30 years would be boring :( Seems like only 4 years is the cutoff point for less than half of women wanting it. Talk about loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:22 PM
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I personally feel the spreadsheet is an effective way to communicate. It'd be very easy to deflect without it. The only bad thing the husband did was send the spreadsheet to her WORK email (i think personal should be fine) and not return calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:15 PM
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Communicating WHAT? It's pretty obvious what has happened here, read this link: http://readability.com/m?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F2%2Fhi%2F4790313.stm
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:01 PM
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Life is just not that binary, though. Read this: http://readability.com/m?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F2%2Fhi%2F4790313.stm
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:00 PM
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You're assuming the husband wasn't doing exhibit b already. It's pretty obvious that this spreadsheet didn't come out of the blue, and the lack of sex was probably a thing that happened for several months (at least) prior to the start of the spreadsheet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 05:58 PM
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Lets ignore the fact that your brother used women as disposable cum dumpsters for a second. The fact that he 'racked up a huge partner count' indicates that he probably doesn't give a shit about non-shallow characteristics of the women he's pumping and dumping. The fact that you say he looks like Brad Pitt means he's in the top 1%, maybe even top .1% of good looking men. Interesting that top tier men can be 'feminist' (not surpisingly, many men in holywood/music proclaim themselves to be feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 01:46 AM
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He racked up a huge partner count. Man, he respects women so much!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 09:07 PM
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Because we don't do it for procreation anymore and bad outcomes from STD's and pregnancy are mitigated by the pill, condoms, sex education, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 07:50 PM
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That study is unrelaible: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3936-fake-liedetector-reveals-womens-sex-lies.html#.U71ELpRdW7l
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:55 PM
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Morality is very subjective and in my opinion these changes are a good thing. Most people enjoy sex, and getting rid of the taboos and restrictions surrounding it can only be good for society. It seems like a lot of people on the red pill are just sore losers who can't accept the fact that life isn't fair. It's a great idea to tell these men to wake up and accept reality, but you don't need to be misogynistic and bitter about it. Except that as a result of no strings attached sex, you will see b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:29 PM
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I don't think these are really requirements for a women that's committed to working her entire life. Look at the stats. Successful women resist 'marrying down'.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:25 PM
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That attractive emotionally mature guy wasn't there. How can a man, lets take the 'engineering men' as an example, be 'emotionally mature' when he doesn't get the chance to date and BECOME emotionally mature? The 'engineering guy' becomes lonely and spiteful towards women because he doesn't get a chance to date them!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:23 PM
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Except you can be a beta male and still have a good job already? he's already typecasted For some reason, you seem to be using Red Pill Women and Women in general interchangeably, the whole purpose of RPW is to have some self awareness about how women behave based on instincts and how women view men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 07:19 PM
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Lucky guy! Wish more women were as mature as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 05:30 PM
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The thing is, an RP woman would KNOW that an alpha male would be highly likely to screw around. That's not something she wants. Remember, this isn't an average woman who's clueless about these social dynamics. Most women want the alpha and beta characteristics in ONE man, but those men are extremely rare. Hence why she needs multiple men to fill those roles. An RP woman knows this and knows she's going to have to work to get that one man. I don't like the penny stock analogy. I think it's more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 04:49 PM
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Solid advice but if a female can get somebody who exhibits more confidence, is more socially well-versed, and has likely experienced more success... why wouldn't she? Because such a man has lots of options already and gets attention from LOTS of women. I highly believe she would rather have somebody who is set and try to reform him to her liking than to work from the bottom up. Think of it from a beta man's point of view. Especially if the woman in question is attractive relative to him. A beta …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 04:20 PM
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Personally, if I were a RP Woman, I would look to lock down a Man with a mix of BOTH Alpha and Beta traits* and who is looking for a LTR rather than a quick lay (so perhaps a religious man, to be sure he wouldn't screw around). A man with both Alpha and Beta traits is somewhat rare. Most women have a really awful dating strategy: waste their youths on alpha bad boys and expect beta losers with decent jobs to marry them when they're around 30 and their biological clocks are ticking like a time bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 03:43 PM
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What? 50 Shades and Twilight are straight up bad. I agree, they're bad. But they're also what women want. They're both popular mainstream media. And they confirm TRP. It's almost like women are the problem here or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 03:31 PM
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Lets see, she was miserable when she was assertive, now she's happy now that she doesn't have AS DOMINANT a role. I say that's a GOOD thing. She's not a freaking slave. That's insulting and you're a terrible person for making such a claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 06:55 PM
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Second out of two, and subject to beheading at the King's order. Sure. Queen, whatever. Not really any different than a slave in this context, except for the amount of jewelry. Wow, i have to say, you're a judgemental prick and you're the opposite of being open minded that you purport to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 03:33 PM
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How can you be so sure women are to blame for this? Men have much more to gain by creating a society like this. I just came across your comment and this is flat out false. Let me rephrase that for you: "A small minority of men (lets call them "alphas") have much more to gain by creating a society like this." Any man that isn't good looking enough/have enough status lose out on this system.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/14 11:32 PM
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Eh, it's not like there isn't a cliche of guys making regrettable relationship decisions. "Crazy bitch", anyone? There are so many lonely men, they'd even be HAPPY to take a "crazy bitch" as long as it meant companionship. That's the real difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/14 10:44 PM
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I have a somewhat different take on this than TRP. I think it's rational for a woman to be wary of being invited to a party full of random guys and alcohol, ESPECIALLY if there aren't that many other women. HOWEVER, the hypocritical part of how women behave is that if the men in question are good looking/high status enough, they will throw themselves at the chance of going to their parties with booze. Since we're talking about college, these will typically be the men in the most popular frat hou…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 04:29 PM
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I consider myself partially redpill as i think it speaks to a lot of truths about human/female nature, but I think the community really needs to get rid of bitter elements of the community like Roisy/Chateau Heartiste and Roosh... way too much hate and bigotry from them, they are really a poor representative of the community. I think the guy who runs the rational male is a much better representative of the community. The other thing that concerns me is advocating 'dark triad' traits. No doubt th…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 10:29 PM
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Here's a hint: Most CEO's have high dark triad traits (one could argue it's necessary, especially sociopathy, to climb up the ladder to become one), if you think only women CEO's act like this, then you are far beyond naive. The fact that she could publicly admit that she's naive makes her LESS solipsistic than most male CEO's. A male CEO would do a mass layoff, then bitch about how these unwashed plebes get to go on unemployment, driving up his costs (not to mention lobbying to cut the length o…
/r/TheRedPill25/04/14 01:04 AM
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She was "forced to fire him" (because, even as a CEO, a woman lacks agency) This is stupid, this is a common phrase that lots of managers use, not just women.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/14 12:45 AM
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Your relative's accountant isn't the CEO of a corporation, big distinction there. Again, the CEO is ultimately responsible for every policy that affects their employee and is the public face of the company.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 01:20 PM
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This is going to be an unpopular opinion here, but this wasn't some low level guy or even VP, this was the CEO. He is the public face of the company, he is the final arbiter of company policies that affect his employees, and the message the company is trying to project on the world. I don't think someone who supports anti-civil rights is really a very good leader for a company, especially one that supports open source software. If he donated money to the KKK, could he be an effective leader?
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 02:50 AM
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only individuals completely reliant upon the state. This isn't accurate at all, in communism, there is no state.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 11:31 PM
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