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Question For WomenPierceTheEye/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:37 PM
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Question For MenPierceTheEye/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:28 AM
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Post for ModsPierceTheEye/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 02:26 PM
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You are absolutely right. In Christ through grace we change when we forfeit everything to Jesus. I fell back on my faith between 20-29 and just recently have come back. So I'm very much in a same position as you. I wish I had never let go of Jesus. I bless you for rebuking me, it is an act of love. I've been celibate for the past 2 years of so and to be honest if God is willing I'll be celibate for the rest of my life. God's will is the best. God bless you brother <3
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:46 PM
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I don't date rn. Perhaps in the future but I believe Jesus is coming soon and now is the time to get stronger in faith, confess and repent. I don't think it's good for a man to have sexual relations with a woman, but if he chooses to do so, it should be only in the context of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:48 PM
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It doesn't matter what I think. There's only one Truth and that's all that matters. The claim is that there's an dark occult satanic priest-class and they manipulate the collective humanity by subtle brainwashing and occult means. If you want to hear more on their agenda of depopulation, take a look at this lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65GNSDDnh_8 Btw, I have no interest in convincing or debating anyone who doesn't believe this stuff. If you're ignorant of it, it's your choice and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:46 PM
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Most female narcs are covert and are never diagnosed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:09 PM
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This is all part of the elite's depopulation agenda
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:45 AM
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While I am in disagreement with the "men will fuck anything" trope, that doesn't matter. Are you sure? (NSFW)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 09:22 PM
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It doesn't matter. If you want sex and/or be a sensitive guy with a woman you just need to keep lowering your standards. I'll use myself as an example, I chose to be in a relationship with a woman who was 20 years older than me because she could help me with my mental issues in ways no 20 year old hottie could. Was it a sacrifice? Of course, a big one. But I believe that relationships are ALWAYS means to an end, many people just hamster and rationalize it being something different. Your with som…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:43 PM
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Hmm this is a good point. Maybe your friend is masculine by nurture and not nature? If she likes feeling feminine/being feminine then she probably grew up in circumstances that made her have to toughen up and shed vulnerable and feminine attributes for her own safety. In these cases then they’d probably need a hypermasculine man to assuage their anxieties. You're spot on. Seems like women know women. There's nothing strictly masculine about her looks, and since she had a child recently she's bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:14 PM
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From my experience, this isn't a good solution. My close female friend who's masculine (and admits to it) said she needs someone who's VERY masculine in order to compensate and for her to feel feminine. So if I dated a masculine woman, I would just feel insecure and expect to get cheated on by a more masculine guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 09:20 AM
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This is why I don't date. It's pointless because at some point you will want to be yourself. And then you will get abandoned. I love you making this topic though, thank you so much for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 09:17 AM
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That's true. But a man who has overcome his lust has already solved more than half of his problems. The great thing is with God's guidance I can direct my sex drive onto things that are actually of value, such as my creative pursuits :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:18 PM
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Men need sex I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:45 PM
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No worries man :) You couldn't insult me even if you tried. I'm on my way to healing, it's all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:33 PM
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I'm not a dog. I'm a human being
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:29 PM
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Oh you're into the prostate ejaculate? I thought it was sperm retention, but it's a religious thing? O.k. then. I am personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:28 PM
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Surely
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:28 PM
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Only happens a few times a year for me. Not a biggie
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:27 PM
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I'm sure all women would agree with you that this is the case
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:23 PM
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My mother sexually abused me. I'm weird like that, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:23 PM
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Yes. I'd rather not be spiritually blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:53 PM
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You're free to believe what you want. If you've never tried semen retention I don't know what else to tell you, other than to try it for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:53 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:51 PM
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Your comment has opened my eyes on a level I thought was not possible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:51 PM
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You don't seem to get it. It's fine hun, always happy to provide amusement to people :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:47 PM
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Please, I'm so tired of the word "Chad". How does your comment have anything to do with my CMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:47 PM
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Your choice. I suggest to give semen retention a try at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:46 PM
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This...actually makes sense haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:26 PM
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The rest might as well be talking about crystal therapy. In fact change out the two and read it. Its mumbojumbo. Your comment is confusing, but I'm sensing you're being sarcastic. Semen retention has clear benefits every guy can experience for themselves if they choose to. No need to believe a thing, just try it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:26 PM
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Did you read the article? Porn addiction or not, our lower brains cannot tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:24 PM
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Dude. Semen is much more than sperm if you didn't know, sperm only makes 2-5% of semen. Semen is produced seminal vesicles and the prostate gland and it has tons of valuable nutrients and other stuff you throw to waste when you cum. You still ejaculate after having a vasectomy so your solution is pointless. The whole point of semen retention is to get beyond "fuck all the whores you want". Jacking off doesn't solve jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:23 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:19 PM
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And how exactly does it do all that? What's the mechanism behind it? It's a practice as old as humanity itself but it hasn't been researched. The only good explanation I have is that when we do not ejaculate our bodies do everything in order to maximize our chances to do so. Our body literally cannot tell the difference between a wank and an intercourse, which is why masturbation is a huge problem. Nofap is placebo. You are just keeping yourself horny for no reason. Also what's the point of all …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:19 PM
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Only to people who cant tell the difference between porn and reality. Our lower brains cannot tell the difference between porn and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:11 PM
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No ejaculation. You can have sex without ejaculation, although I think PERSONALLY it is wise to abstain from all sexual relations in order to avoid suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:10 PM
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No. It comes with a lot of existential dread, paranoia and anxiety. But that's not the reason certain people are drawn into conspiracy theories in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:08 PM
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About what specifically? I made several claims in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:06 PM
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Nofap is not the same as semen retention, so /r/semenretention
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:06 PM
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This is such an oversimplification
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:05 PM
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Sure they can
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:38 PM
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I just don't have the heart to tell him he's getting used along with a ton of other guys probably. He's a 30+ year old virgin too. Please do tell him. If I cared about him as a friend, I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:33 PM
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This is a great question. Thanks for starting this thread OP, its a breath of fresh air compared to the usual circle-jerking. I will send you a dm for my appreciation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:05 AM
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Women's ability to nurture, love and heal what is broken. The maternal instinct. It's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:30 PM
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Then why the comment in OP (link)?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:37 AM
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I think the relevant point is that you need to stop caring about women and focus on higher pursuits
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:37 AM
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Tucker Max Great podcast. Thanks for linking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:11 AM
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Amen brother! Society works best when we are compassionate and understanding towards each other and try to love and help each other instead of judging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 07:04 AM
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Jesus bless you too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 09:10 PM
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It's ok. God has blessed me with some amazing people in my life and I'm recovering. And I'm able to relate to a lot of people who are suffering and help some of them on their healing journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:01 PM
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I have a personality disorder. That's what it is in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:44 PM
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Well plenty women do. That's why guys keep doing what's working. Not me though. Because emotionally I'm 4 and sex is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:28 PM
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Yeah. That's my point. People don't give a shit about what's moral. People only care about what's attractive. Most people are moral relativists and if people cared about morals, people wouldn't be filled with shitty parents and fucked up people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:13 PM
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Well you fuck them and that's the thing most men care about. Why should a man commit to one women where there are loads to choose from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:11 PM
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Able to cheat and to cheat are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:03 PM
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Me too, me too...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:31 PM
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No. But you may find your man boring if he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:22 AM
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Also, don't be unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:21 AM
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The thing I’ve come to understand about dating is that regardless of gender, when someone is really attracted to you, it’s very difficult to fuck things up. TIL: No one is really attracted to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:21 AM
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No way. I CAN get ONSs if I want to, the problem is I'm so deeply involved in my healing process I have no desire for sexual relations at this time. Not to mention the fact that I'm a Christian so I would want to wait until marriage anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:10 PM
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No. I deconverted in my early 20s because I wanted to sleep around and do drugs. Most my Christian peers married and in happy marriages. I regret my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:08 PM
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Darn these mods are effective
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:06 PM
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Thank you brother "DaphneDK42" ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:06 PM
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Well. I have to mostly disagree with you sir. If you believe you are nothing but your body, you are already spiritually dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:05 PM
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I'm not really concerned with that. Tbh my relationship with God and Jesus is becoming very important to me and only a girl who's similarly devout to me could appreciate it. But I trust God in these matters. If it pleases him for me to be alone serving him, I'll do that. If he wishes to provide me with a partner, I'll gladly accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:04 PM
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I do it precisely for internal validation and healing. But it's just heartbreaking to see that it's taking me exactly to the opposite direction on what is attractive to women. I literally need to regress in my healing process in order to provide care and nurture to the most traumatized aspects of my psyche and in a sense, provide myself with another childhood in order to have a shot at life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:02 PM
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I'm pretty much forced to be MGTOW due to my mental health issues. And honestly, even if I was that way for the rest of my life, it would be a life worth living. I have hobbies, I have passions, I enjoy helping people and bettering myself. I contribute to society. I have things to offer to the world and information that can help some people who struggle mentally like I have. I see a woman should only contribute to this lifestyle, if it were to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:40 PM
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Nah. People never change. You just really get to know who they are deep within.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:38 PM
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I take those odds. They are much lower if 2 virgins marry young btw
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:38 PM
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A good woman to me is someone who is loyal and chaste. But then again, high value women have way better options and I see no reason to be in a relationship with a low value woman who will cheat on me (they always do).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:37 PM
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This is a great response. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:35 PM
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Depression, social anxiety and borderline personality disorder as a result of emotional, physical, sexual and religious abuse in childhood. Add a spice of psychotic traits there from my genetic background. It's pretty bad, although I've healed a lot too. I still find that the only way for me to be functional and relatively stable is to avoid romantic relationships and generally isolate. Even attempting to set up a date with woman feels like being stabbed in the heart. I can only hide so much of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:35 PM
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There's no way to become high value with severe mental health issues so rip
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:07 PM
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My mother is a covert narcissist. She abused me sexually, physically and emotionally when I was a child. It took me 10 years to realize who she truly is and I'm still struggling emotionally seeing her for who she is. I loved her as a child, as children always love their parents. But people like my mother turn it against the child and it becomes part of an incestic cycle of abuse and manipulation. My life is mostly about healing work and sorting out my issues, I don't think I would mind dying muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 09:01 AM
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Because it's painful. Truth hurts. These may be men who have been rejected a lot and have desires, hopes and needs of a relationship with a woman. Only to find out that they will never be good enough because they weren't born tall. It hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:55 AM
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I like you and this post. It's like a breath of fresh air compared to the regular circlejerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:43 AM
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This is so true. Most men don't see women for who they are and instead reflect on an idea of a woman in their own heads. I think this has something to do with their own maternal attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 03:37 AM
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Thanks man, I appreciate it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:08 PM
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but I personally despise people looking at me This is what I've experienced or sensed from most women, they seem really uncomfortable so even glancing can cause discomfort. This is why I'm seeking to get one of these, because seeing yoga pants fills me with disgust https://nypost.com/2012/08/11/blurry-eyeglasses-help-ultra-orthodox-jewish-men-avoid-seeing-immodest-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:46 PM
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Great comment, thanks for sharing. I need to master this skill. I hate women wearing yoga pants, it's just, yucky and...too much :(
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:41 PM
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From my experience women see all forms of looking at "staring at lust" based on how uncomfortable they seem. So I think it should be either or. I mean, how is a woman supposed to know the difference? If I look at a woman of course she's going to assume there's interest
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:31 PM
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Sure, you can have your partner :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:28 PM
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I was originally going to this Q4W but I wanted both genders side to this to arouse more discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:28 PM
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We all liked to be approached differently. But we are not talking about approaching at all, ever just looking. Why did you bring approaching up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:53 PM
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I'm just waiting to die. Everything life gives can be taken away, death is for certain. Life's short anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:51 PM
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Yay, we are all getting to be old and ugly. Well, most of us
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:29 PM
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Which one would you choose if you could from these two: a.) almost every man staring and glancing at you sexually wherever you go b.) being invisible to men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:29 PM
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That sounds great
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:28 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Do men approach you even if you're not wearing make up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:28 PM
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I mean, a respectful glance or look and then move along if you’re not going to approach us. I don't think there's a way to have a respectful glance. Even when I glance at women respectfully they act as if I look at them sexually. I seem to make a lot of women uncomfortable so I'm just trying to not look at them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:27 PM
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So are women getting upset that men are simply looking at them now? No. Nobody's saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:59 PM
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Not using makeup can work great, unless you're attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:59 PM
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It will be a problem for women too in the long run, as it will lead to destabilization of society. Neither gender lives in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:44 PM
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Ok. I've just noticed I a lot of women seem to be uncomfortable when they are even glanced at. The put their head down and seem startled. And women seem to have this supernatural sense that they sense when they are being looked at even when they can't see it. I hate how my body is making me look at things I don't want to look. Wait. Now I get it. I'm a creep
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:43 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:40 PM
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That is my whole life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:39 PM
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Great insight
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:35 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:34 PM
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I think this kind of behavior would be seen as somewhat creepy. When one purposely avoids eye contact, it leaves not the best impression. But for me personally, it's either or. And I'm talking about passing strangers on the street or in the shop. Either I look and make some women uncomfortable (based on how they react by their body language) or I make effort to avoid looking at them at all. It's really hard to NOT look, so I need to make an effort to avoid visual contact. They are strangers so I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:33 PM
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I totally agree. That's why raising awareness is important. After all these things stem deep from the unconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 01:43 PM
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Here's another one: Something is very wrong in society and sexuality in today's world. People are having less and less sex, there's more mental illness and loneliness and the marriage as an institution is in danger of (or has already become) obsolete. This is a problem for everyone and society as a whole. Upvote if you agree, downvote if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 01:04 PM
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Both men and women need to understand and accept their primitive sexual nature for what it is, and strive to resolve it in a way that leads to the betterment of society. Upvote if you agree, downvote if you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 01:03 PM
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I am not judging women' sexuality. It's nature. And nature does whatever it needs to do. Nature doesn't care about morals and things most "civilized" people consider to be "good". Nature is raw and primitive. And that's what human sexuality is at it's core. It's ugly and primal. Sure, it CAN be a beautiful thing in a loving marriage, but we defile it. I am not blaming women nor do I think they are evil or bad in any way. It is, what it is. All I wish is that society would openly talk about the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:58 PM
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This is also the reason I don't date. I did whatever I needed to get laid in my early 20s and while being a narcissistic asshole worked wonders, it wasn't who I truly was and I suffered as a consequence. I'm bit older now so I've decided that for me it is more beneficial to be truly who I am and not abandon my faith and my morals and principles. I'm striving to become a better person through the grace of God, even if that means I will be unsuccessful with women. And I totally have been since. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:52 PM
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All women, not just insecure ones. It's pure science at this point. Women just don't want to admit what they are sexually attracted to: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cux0dm/discussion_research_finds_that_women_do_not/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:34 PM
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All women, not just insecure ones. It's pure science at this point. Women just don't want to admit what they are sexually attracted to: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cux0dm/discussion_research_finds_that_women_do_not/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:34 PM
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It's pure science at this point. Women just don't want to admit what they are sexually attracted to: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cux0dm/discussion_research_finds_that_women_do_not/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:33 PM
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It's pure science at this point. Women just don't want to admit what they are sexually attracted to: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cux0dm/discussion_research_finds_that_women_do_not/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:33 PM
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It's pure science at this point. Women just don't want to admit what they are sexually attracted to: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cux0dm/discussion_research_finds_that_women_do_not/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:33 PM
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It's pure science at this point. Women just don't want to admit what they are sexually attracted to: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cux0dm/discussion_research_finds_that_women_do_not/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:33 PM
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It's pure science at this point. Women just don't want to admit what they are sexually attracted to: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cux0dm/discussion_research_finds_that_women_do_not/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:33 PM
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As some have pointed out, most men are going to emulate whatever works
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:28 PM
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Well, some women do choose good, strong and mentally healthy man. These are probably woman who were raised by such father. But since those fathers are a rarity nowadays many women revert back to their more primitive biological sexual programming, if you will. After all, in this day and age, plenty of people are raised by terrible parents and are not mentally well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:47 AM
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No. I'm specifically asking you to change my view in regards how women on the very primitive, biological level respond sexually to the traits I listed. And plenty of women in this thread have challenged this view, although some admit dating narcissistic men "in the past", which would further prove my point. I don't care about more "advanced" forms of attraction that deal with the higher, more developed aspects of human emotion when it comes to sexuality. I'm talking about pure primitive female s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:45 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:35 AM
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CMV: Sexual promiscuity is always related to mental health issues, lack of self-worth and low self-esteem. IN BOTH GENDERS. Sex is the most intimate thing you can do with another person. Why would you go sleeping around with people you barely know? It's only going to lead to emotional damage and decrease your chance of having truly meaningful sex with a person you actually love. And the person I actually love is OP, kudos to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 11:19 AM
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The problem with this kind of correlation is that it is so one dimensional. Perhaps we are biologically programmed to respond to signals that indicate fitness but that doesn't mean the signals are static or that they'll result in an evolutionary win. But that's the whole point of this thread. We are talking about pure raw biology that's opposed to women's more developed side.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 08:54 AM
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Well tons of women date and fuck these guys, so it's working
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 08:53 AM
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Lol no. The best sex of my life was with the kindest, most considerate man I dated. And I’ve dated narcissists, so I have the data. That just proves my point. They excited you so you slept with them. You needed to grow and mature to aspect sex in it's better form, but the narcissistists had you first when you were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 08:52 AM
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Good! That will teach it haha. No seriously, I hope you find success and love in your relationships :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:47 AM
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Yeah. This thread is all about the sexual attraction, not the provider aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:40 AM
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You're projecting. Men mainly care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:58 PM
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I'm always happy to hear if people are in happy LTRs and faithful to their partners. Hoping it's true. My position that even the most healthy woman will be aroused by these traits, but will possibly be smart enough to have discernment regarding their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:13 PM
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After all, if her Alpha is committed to her and only her...then how Alpha is he really ? This is the root of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:10 PM
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This is true. Men very much have the same degenerate form of their sexuality that is solely concerned with reproduction, nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:06 PM
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Obviously, I'm generalizing. There are always minorities and exceptions to the rule. We are talking about the rule here. The majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:05 PM
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Doesn't matter. Sex is sex and the women will come back. Even after marrying a boring provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:05 PM
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I don't believe every dude on here who wants to tell me he banged 20 women a day or w/e but also.... It's almost like these men who are all similar.... Attract a type of women who are all similar. -narcissism/cocky/arrogance: you're confusing "confident" here, they are not equivalent. But also you're using words that mean the same general thing. You will never find a person more confident than a narcissist. Even if it's based on an illusion and a form of personality damage, it's still unwavering…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:03 PM
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Me personally? Yes, but that's simply because I'm a weak bitch who doesn't want to accept reality. Because that is all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:50 PM
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Well these women are certainly as stupid as the orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:30 PM
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Even the secure women will be excited and aroused by these traits, while not necessarily choosing to sleep with the man. Please read the caveat at the end of the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:29 PM
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Removed it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:27 PM
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You don't have to be some Hannibal Lecter type to arouse a woman. Maybe not but it certainly helps. ​ There are plenty of men who are masculine and competent and they're good for relationships while also being able to arouse their female partner. Sure. But what percentage of the women they are with are happy with their partners? What percentage of women cheat? What percentage of women divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:25 PM
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The reason I'm posting is that as someone who's suffered from a personality disorder containing narcissistic traits, it's sad to realize that as I heal and retain more healthy qualities as a person the less successful I am with women. I was doing so much better when I was being narcissistic and treating women badly. But I personally believe that morals and principles are more important than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:21 PM
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Ask that from any man who's been divorced. Do women not care about commitment? The problem is women try to get commitment from wrong kinds of guys. The kind of guys who are above their level and who thus excite them sexually. Women are not rational enough. They do not understand that some men are in very high demand and have tons of options similar to like most attractive women do. Most women are confident that THEY are the ones that will lock that man down. Most women do not ask introspective q…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 09:49 PM
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If most men are unattractive then they must use some form of force. Why protect? Why provide? Just let the walls crumble. Well I guess guys find other solutions...which I'd rather not even talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 09:17 PM
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I think both genders have difficulties relating to other gender issues because men and women are fundamentally different down to our brain structure. Being sexually desired by most women to a man is a fantasy for most, but the reason (I think) it's uncomfortable for women because they are physically weaker than men so there's an inherent risk of physical violence and the attention isn't merely "flattering" as it is also "dangerous". Most men will never be truly sexually desired by a woman, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:56 PM
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Finnish girls are great
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:16 PM
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Finland
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:30 PM
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Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 02:39 PM
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Hard with 0 matches, I actually received a lot of matches on tinder with a fake funny picture so that's a superior strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 02:36 PM
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You must be crazy attractive and/or have a great bio with lots of activities
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 01:53 PM
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You guys get matches? I literally never got matches with my own face. Which is weird because I get attention IRL from women based on my looks. But trying OLD has been repeatedly one of the most degrading experiences of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:59 AM
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I've been arguing this ad nauseam. Dating apps are worthless for the vast majority of men. Apps inflate women's egos in an unnatural way because there are always twice of thrice as many guys on the platform as women. The amount of thirst is simply disgusting. Any guy will have infinitely better odds in real life because most men are too scared to even approach a woman. Using a dating app as a man if equivalent of digging through trash hoping to find something worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:48 AM
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Great comment, thank you. More and more I'm starting to think human sexuality is a societal problem to be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:31 AM
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Men need to put their principals and morals above their primitive desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 03:53 AM
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Yes. But they don't admit that "I am jealous of women for that" instead they just bash women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 03:50 AM
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Well, I asked I got an answer. If most men here had said "Yeah I'm actually jealous towards women about this" but that's not what you see
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:56 PM
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But do they openly admit it by saying "man I'm jealous to women"? If they do, then consider me surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:40 PM
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This thread
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:39 PM
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Men rarely admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:22 PM
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Yeah, like 2 comments in this thread out of 52
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:33 PM
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level 1 Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:32 PM
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Friendzone. You need more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 12:03 PM
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How high are their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:53 AM
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A lot, especially when I was younger. But then again I have BPD. It feels good to get attention and bad when I get none. But lately it hasn't mattered that much. The less I want women they more they want me, the boring old story. It's a pointless game I'm too tired to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:47 AM
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Thank you. God bless you man you're the first! I'm guessing this is a difficult topic which is why this thread isn't gaining that much traction
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 08:18 AM
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Emotional health and progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:37 AM
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For their own sake, to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:27 AM
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Ok. That makes sense. In essence men's power comes from being able to walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:12 AM
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What is men's relationship power?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:07 AM
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True. That is why you see so many men frustrated at simps and thirsty guys. Men need to become men again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:53 AM
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I know all this and I still choose to grow in spirit and in unconditional love towards all people by the grace of Jesus. Not because I expect people to like be, I'm striving for holiness and love because God himself is the definition of Holy and Love. In my early 20s I gave up my morals in order to get laid and while it worked, it caused me immense emotional suffering and basically killed me spiritually. Spirit trumps flesh and a living relationship with the one God is above all earthly things a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:49 AM
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I'm so sorry to hear you've had that experience. Having BPD, I've struggled immensely trying to form healthy relationships. It takes time to heal and find the right people. Check this video out, I made it for us BPDs who are struggling with this stuff: https://youtu.be/8K9yrQSJ088
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 06:22 AM
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No one does, but the father himself. God is prolonging his coming in his mercy so that people might have more time to turn to Jesus and start the spiritual journey towards holiness. It's a process that takes time, just as it takes time to get to a deeply know a person, it takes time to deeply know God. Time is relative, and God is light. You probably know what happens to time in the speed of light, it stands still. One day for God is like thousand years, and thousand years is like one day. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:14 AM
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For whole life, unless God has another plan. At this time though, I consider being unmarried and childless to be a blessing. Jesus is coming back soon and everybody needs to focus on their own salvation through him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:36 PM
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I abstain from sexual relations, porn and masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:30 PM
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Organized religion most certainly has been and is used as mind control tool. True Christianity is living communication and relationship with God through holy spirit. It is real and it doesn't require belief, anyone can experience it for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:14 PM
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God is so good. I was deconverted for a long time and my heart aches now coming back to him. So much work to do for the spirit to cleanse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:13 PM
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The bible is filled with verses talking about sheeps in wolf's clothing, especially regarding spiritual teachers. One needs spiritual discernment regarding spiritual teaching, after all, Christianity is all about one's personal relationship with Jesus and working out one's salvation. You think you are taking a stab at God, but you're really taking a stab at satan. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 03:52 PM
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Sex is of paramount importance in an LTR, and yeah, men weren't so pissed off if they didn't care about LTRs. If everything works, sex is 10% of the relationship. If it doesn't work, it's 70% of the relationship. It's equally important for women too, just check /r/deadbedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 02:01 PM
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Whatever. This thread has 600+ comments and is dying down at this point. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:58 PM
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Some people are just born attractive, regardless of age, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 12:43 PM
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You make me chuckle. I have no need to provide 'evidence' for you or anyone else. What I've personally experienced to be true is good enough for me. Am I open to new experiences and make adjustments to my views accordingly? Sure. That's what I've done my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:50 AM
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break up the family unit as an institution Because we all know men were better off when women were glorified sex slaves. Oh hello Lilith. Always a pleasure. No matter the history, there's nothing in the bible to warrant women for being sex slaves. 1 Corinthians 7: "Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 10:05 AM
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Doesn't matter. He got what he wanted out of you. Sorry to hear that you got used.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:53 AM
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This thread is hilarious. Thanks OP for starting it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:34 AM
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A fantastic insight. Now, go step further and realize that originally feminism was created to: 1.) Lower wages, and tax the whole population, rather than just half of it 2.) break up the family unit as an institution 3.) indoctrinate the children by the way of government schooling E: And realize that I'm totally for equal rights for women. I am in no way saying women not being able to work and have freedom is somehow desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:42 AM
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Yes they would. That is why sexual immorality destroys relationships and marriage as an institution. It's precisely the reason why the bible commands bible to marry as virgins. Sex is paramount. I'm sure you heard the saying, when sex happens and it's good, it's 10% of the relationship. When it doesn't work, it's 70% of the relationship. It's literally the glue that makes two people into one flesh. Sexual immorality defiles this and is damaging to people's spiritual and emotional aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:34 AM
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I'm happy for you guys. I hope you stay loyal and grow in love towards each other. Whoever does not love, does not know God for God is love.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:17 AM
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You're focusing on external things, rather than on information and the truth. An attractive newscaster could whisper beautiful lies into your ear all day, while an unattractive hobo could be screaming essential truths into your ears. Information is what is relevant, not whatever you think or perceive of the messenger. If you think otherwise, you will be prone to emotional mind control, which unfortunately many people are. I could share a great video on this as well, but I doubt you would watch i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:16 AM
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The thirst is real smh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:11 AM
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My life is completely unchanged. I go to work, I go home, eat, computer and sleep. Just the way I like it. Rinse and repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:51 AM
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No. It's simply a sign of value. And I claim that a man who cheats is more valuable than a man who cannot cheat or is very unlikely to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:29 AM
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This obsession that the men on Reddit have with the number of men women have slept with is absolutely ridiculous. I actually agree. It is a sign of insecurity and low value. ​ Sure, promiscuity may be a sign that someone is not LTR material, but that goes both ways as in it effects both men and women. Furthermore, it’s not the fact that someone is promiscuous that is the issue, it’s whether or not there is an underlying problem that is causing it. Promiscuity may be related to mental health diso…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:28 AM
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What is "a lot of partners" to you? And what are some of the signs a man has had a lot of partners if he did not tell you? There are many women who opt out to have an LTR with an inexperienced man, but if they themselves have experience, it is unlikely that they are truly sexually desire their long term partner. And why would they if they've had tons of better experiences in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:18 AM
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That's the thing though. Do you think it was by chance you were attracted to a guy who had 40 or more past sexual partners? You are literally proving the point I made in the OP. And that's the thing, you can never trust people to tell the truth about their sexual past, especially if they know it could be detrimental. It's so pointless to ask that most people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:16 AM
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I'm confused about one part.. you said men gatekeep commitment but also women don't mind men who have a high likelyhood of cheating? If men's main value is their commitment, why would a women settle for someone who wont commit? Not all woman are capable of having a high-value male commit to them. These woman adopt the dual mating strategy, alpha seed and beta need. They are married or in a relationship with a beta guy who provides for them and have their sexual needs met by the alpha guy that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:14 AM
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This is a fallacy. Sex is the most intimate thing you can do with someone. You cannot cut off the emotional aspect from the physical aspect. Some people are so spiritually dead and numb though that I guess for them it does not make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:46 AM
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Check the very link in the OP on this exact thing. The issue is the men with whom you have sex with provide you with better sex than the man you would commit to. Once you have both it is impossible not to compare. This leads to lack of satisfaction in the relationship and in many cases infidelity. If you and your husband would be each other's only ones, it would make the sex actually special and incomparable, which is how God intended it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:45 AM
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That's what my ex who had an n count of over 100 by her own words said. Inexperienced men are easier to control with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:21 AM
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They are still more valuable than non-promiscuous and chaste men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:20 AM
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I find your opinion to be very female
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:19 AM
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I'm hoping all men do that. Turn away from sexual immorality towards a relationship with God. Being spiritually alive is much more fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:18 AM
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What points of the video you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:18 AM
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Personal experience, testimonies of multiple other men an TRP. Women do not like inexperienced and chaste men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:17 AM
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I don't know. I'm asking myself the same thing often
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:10 AM
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If you can't even get sex, how could you ever find love?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:48 PM
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I'm not going to link 8 billion threads here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:47 PM
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According to studies, generally 25% of men have 20 lifetime sexual partners of more. So congrats, you have a lot of promiscuous men in your family I guess. 55% of men have 2 to 20 lifetime sexual partners, 20% of men have only one. So, like most women to my understanding, you prefer the promiscuous part of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:47 PM
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May I point out that you are still putting women on a pedestal by giving them the magical strength to withold from sex, while you yourself had your issues? I should be judged and shamed from my mistakes by society and so should women. I was stupid and messed up, and it is not ok. I caused a lot of harm to myself and other people. I think both men and women ought to be chaste, for their own sake. Every girl was a virgin at one point. Really doesn't say much about them. True, but statistically it …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:42 PM
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Oh, it is in no way a new discovery. See the link I posted in OP about a woman who misses her crazy ex (who probably cheated on her) and the crazy sex they had, while now being in an LTR with a man who is much better suited for an LTR. There's an inherent adversarial dynamic at play when it comes to human sexuality, there's the primitive fleshly side (temptations, lust) and the spiritual side (bonding, healing, love) that are at war against each other. This happens to both men and women by the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:34 PM
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Well, how does your brain hurt then? Maybe it hurts for the same reason mine does. It's good to remember though, that men's and women's brains are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:31 PM
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Yeah I agree. But men who reach those numbers are statistically rare. And the chances are they are going to have no problem finding more whether for hookups or LTRs. And I personally am in no position to judge. I've made my own fair share of mistakes. I hold on to the belief that having multiple sexual partners is damaging and pointless. At least when I was in a truly loving relationship I regretted every single past affair that I had had, and I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. Sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:30 PM
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Ok. I see your usage of the word "traditional" is way more sophisticated are correct than mine. When I said I did not value "traditional women" when I was younger was because I was a good looking guy who wanted to sleep around instead of committing to a one women. Which was a pointless and a dumb thing to do, but I have my issues. I simply meant that when I was younger there were several young, pretty girls who were interested in me, some of them I found later on were even virgins, that I reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:23 PM
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More things that never happened. This just sounds so... so... cringey. It's the blind leading the blind. Hilarious but also sad. I worded it badly. It's not the bragging itself but myriad of subconscious signs and messages the guy emits signaling he is a high value guy: confidence, posture etc. lol. If a woman asks how your sex life has been, what she hopes is that you've had a long dry spell and that she is the one to break that spell, making the encounter special. She's hoping for a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:15 PM
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No worries! And welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:08 PM
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Nope. Read the OP carefully, especially at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:08 PM
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Long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:55 AM
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I think it's mostly that most people don't ask, because it's pointless to ask. Another issue is if they knew for certain how they would feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:47 AM
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The ability to cheat with attractive women is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:46 AM
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I respect your opinion man. To be honest, I usually feel sad for promiscuous women because they usually suffer from low self-esteem and come from abusive families. Another part of me feels disgust and anger towards sex and sexuality but that's simply because I'm a victim of child sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:45 AM
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Dear coconut, I meant "value" in a purely biological, primitive and sexual context that usually has to do with the subconscious. It is not the act of cheating, but the ability to attract multiple attractive woman and have the choice to cheat. Obviously cheating is not admirable LTR behavior but I claim that a woman would rather choose a high value man who's prone to cheating than a low value blue pilled man who's loyal and think women poop rainbows.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:39 AM
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Goes to both genders I think. Fortunately there are loyal people too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:36 AM
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Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:32 AM
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That would be me haha. Out of curiosity, if a man is abstaining from sexual relations, does it make a difference to his value whether he masturbates or abstains from it completely as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:32 AM
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Trust me. It hurts many men's brains too to witness this behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:30 AM
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If I know a man has gotten around, I wouldnt want to touch him with a 10 foot pole. Something that like that isnt getting access to my body lol. I can agree with that. I personally view a high quality woman as someone who would make a great mother, is loyal and marriage material. I'm glad to hear that for your own sake. But as I and others in this thread have pointed out, most women's actions indicate the complete opposite of what you stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:29 AM
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Here's a video on them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lAdgC6OZRM
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:26 AM
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but the biggest reason is that promiscuous women make statistically for worse long-time partners. You keep saying this on this sub, but non-promiscuous women highly value a relationship that most of you on this sub don't want. I do. Or at least I did. But I'm a low value guy and high value women have better options for successful LTRs. Like there are roughly 2 types of women, some overlap offcourse but roughly. Traditional or modern women. You hate the promiscuity of modern women, but you hate d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:25 AM
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"I have never seen somebody think that. I recognize and respect the element of choice, but men opting to be chaste are seen as odd or even creepy. Some might even think it is just an excuse for being unable to get some." I have in the past. Myself and many other young guys who are confused what to do with women at first. I don't personally care if me being chaste if seen odd or creepy, it is deeply fulfilling and strengths my relationship with the spirit. It is a sacrifice for sure, but for me, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:32 AM
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In general? True. Doesn't matter to me personally since I go monk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:18 AM
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I'm a victim of child sexual abuse, my mother did it. I'm messed up but not without a reason. I don't hate women, I hate my mother for what she did. I'm afraid of people and disgusted by human sexuality in general. That is also the reason being a monk is the most sensible choice for me. But hey, if you want to put me into the box of misogyny, that's your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:17 AM
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No. I'm not a native english speaker and I find the word "female" to be pleasant. I use it because it is more neutral than "woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:11 AM
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Hvm don't have sexual relations nor masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:10 AM
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Actually. If a woman is attractive, it doesn't matter if she's promiscuous or not, unless there are very clear outwardly signs and severe mental illness. She will be able to attract a high value guy. The opposite is a male fantasy. Check the edited link in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:09 AM
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" Same with men, no? Men who cheat on their wives will also get a divorce. I don't see how that's a good outcome." In my understanding, yes. The same applies to men (somebody correct me on this if I'm wrong). That is why 2 young virgins marrying is the ideal situation and provides the best chances for a successful lifelong LTR. Multiple sexual partners damage people emotionally and spiritually. They destroy us. "Probably an exaggeration. I don't really care if you don't like promiscuous women bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:02 AM
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"Also who the heck decided men with a lot of partners, let alone cheating men, are considered attractive? Isn’t it the complete opposite? That it doesn’t say anything positive about the man’s abilities, but more about his lack of standards, probable STDs, and society’s large pool of lonely women?" Nature. Or the "flesh" (as opposed to the spirit). Manifesting as the subconscious sexual side of women. I don't personally think being a "fuckboi" is true "alpha" behavior, although purely biologicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:46 AM
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"That's because men and women are attracted to different things. A man can be visually unappealing but still be powerful and masculine and thus sexually attractive. A woman cannot be visually unappealing and still be sexually attractive no matter how they act. " I'm literally copy-pasting my own comments in this thread as a responses to same arguments. The sad thing is, that this disgusting, primitive side of men is what sexually arouses most women. Only way to avoid being cheated on is to absta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:37 AM
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Yuck
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:33 AM
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Cheating man is a man with options to cheat, therefore attractive, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:32 AM
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Incorrect. Read more comments in this thread. The more sexual partners a woman has, the more likely she is to cheat on you and divorce you, statistically. There are tons of sensible reasons to avoid promiscuous women, other than "insecurity". Women who are promiscuous also very often suffer from mental health issues, among other things, which makes them worse mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:01 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/g437dj/women_dont_understand_why_promiscuity_is/fnv8a05?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:57 AM
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You are absolutely correct. The difference is a man might appreciate a woman being inexperienced and chaste. A woman never would. Attractive women won't have issues getting into LTRs with high-value guys, as most men men appreciate looks above all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:55 AM
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That's because men and women are attracted to different things. A man can be visually unappealing but still be powerful and masculine and thus sexually attractive. A woman cannot be visually unappealing and still be sexually attractive no matter how they act.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:53 AM
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Thank for your honest answer, I appreciate it. You are absolutely correct. I hope if you have children they are loved and cared for in a context of a stable and good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:48 AM
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Thank you, I appreciate that. My relationship with God and his Holy Spirit is the only thing that gives me strength to abstain from sexual immorality (porn, masturbation) and relationships. And I feel great about this. Apostle Paul in the bible advised people from marrying to spare them from suffering. God set his rules regarding sexuality to prevent social decay to spare us from suffering and the destruction of our spiritual aspect. That's what sin is and what it does, it kills the spirit and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:46 AM
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I don't doubt the sincerity of your words, but for most women, subconscious or conscious, this is the way it works. Any man who's gamed would testify this experience. This is literally what me and other men have found to be successful with women we may want to sleep with. If you brag about your sexual success, either discreetly or openly, it signals you are a high value male worth mating with. It doesn't have to be open bragging, it can be more subtle signs that the man is successful with women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:38 AM
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That is why I specified " However, there is the big difference between a man who's had multiple attractive sexual partners, and a woman who's had multiple sexual partners.". It's still the same. A cheating man like that will subconsciously stimulate a woman more than a chaste one. That is why I specified " However, there is the big difference between a man who's had multiple attractive sexual partners, and a woman who's had multiple sexual partners.". It's still the same. A cheating man like tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:31 AM
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That is why I specified " However, there is the big difference between a man who's had multiple attractive sexual partners, and a woman who's had multiple sexual partners.". It's still the same. A cheating man like that will subconsciously stimulate a woman more than a chaste one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:31 AM
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Both genders do this. Projection. That's why women believe that education and having multiple sexual partners is empowering and would make them desirable. A man who has had few or no sexual partners is most likely low value (not attractive), a woman who has had few or no sexual partners is high value (being selective). Also that's why some men think it is of value for them to be chaste, or that would make that sexually attractive to women when the opposite is true. As a Christian, I still think …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:26 AM
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This is just my opinion, but I think there's a huge crisis of masculinity in our society. Masculinity (strength, protection) is demonized because the last thing governments want are strong men who are capable of standing against government oppression. On the other hand, the feminine characteristic of CARE that is present in both men and women is being suppressed as well. Many people are so apathetic and dull and don't care about anything, young and naive people think that not caring about anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:19 AM
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100% truth. People need to be more honest and open. Thankfully it seems to be that many things are being exposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:14 AM
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Because they have the ability to cheat. I told a married woman whose man opened up about his affairs to me, that his husband is a cheater. They're still together. The woman doesn't care, in fact it might even subconsciously excite her because her man is high value and desirable to many other woman. Plus, to some people it gives them permission to cheat as well. That's one reason why I refrain from relationships. I refuse to play such game of immorality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:13 AM
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Nope. Literally any man you would want can cheat. You don't understand how anyone can sleep with their ex? Because their ex provided better sex although they were incompatible for an LTR? People cheat because they are selfish and want both. And thankfully not everyone cheats, some do, or at least claim to just masturbate to them. And if it isn't a problem why not tell your current partner too? And yeah, people are not trustworthy sweetie. People cheat and lie all the time. That is why it is wise…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:11 AM
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High value man has options and experience. Does a high value man go around cheating repeatedly? No, but he can if he chooses to. And that's what women want over a man who does not have this capability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:07 AM
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That's why I specified desirable for LTRs. Because there's a difference between sexual and LTR desirability. Women think they're the same, they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:06 AM
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I've heard somewhere that in lifelong relationships the chances of either partner cheating rises up to 50%. So it's not a small minority of women or men. People cheat more in this day and age because people have more opportunities to cheat via dating apps and such. Most women not cheating at all is, for me personally, wishful thinking. Why would they not cheat if there are tons of better options thrown at them? That is why many women do monkey-branch trying always trying to look for a better par…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:12 AM
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I partially agree. But you need to understand that men can only ever be true friends with women they do not want to have sex with. Sexual desire gets in the way of true platonic friendships, especially if it is one sided. I never understood why especially women have difficulties understanding this. Perhaps it's because women are tormented less by their sexuality and therefore cannot relate.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 10:26 AM
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Yeah I should die
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 11:18 AM
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Too late. I got what I wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 10:58 AM
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I'm happy to hear that. But the only reason you were attracted to your man because he was already in a relationship with another woman which is proof he was a man of value. Just proves women prefer men who are taken. Which is totally ok by the way and makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:05 PM
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But a man who arouses you will have plenty of options to cheat though. And people will cheat. Only thing is, that not everyone get caught. Do you want a man that other women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:55 PM
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Cuz I thought women were pure innocent beings who don't fart and who don't have promiscuous dirty sex, just like my mother
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:38 PM
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A loyal man won't be able to arouse you honey
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:36 PM
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Well, their husbands are having sex with someone else like the "high-value" men they are and they have a nice maid at home. And their spouses will put up that. Actually the fact that they are cheated on makes them value their men more. You think men who women desire are loyal?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 04:05 AM
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Amen. That's why abstaining from sex before marriage is the way to go. I grew up in a pentecostal circle and most of my peers married young and virgin. Guess what? Most are still together, have children and to my understanding, are happy. It's the recipe for success, but obviously there are people from broken families who don't make it. So it's not a guarantee, but it's is pretty much worth the risk. The argument that people need to "experiment" is nonsense and a dangerous lie that causes a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:32 PM
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I'm a man who is suffering from BPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:22 PM
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"They want masculinity and deep down they want to be fucked, not made love to." This sentence broke my delicate blue-pilled Christian heart. Women, please tell me this isn't true :O Edit: WOMEN PLZ RESPOND
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:59 PM
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Being used always starts with seduction. Part of the process. Men master the art of seduction to get sex out of women. Not every woman who is seduced ends up being used, but many do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:44 PM
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The sad thing is that a woman probably is more turned on the less you do. At least then there's a tension that you can escalate. You know, that whole TRP dominance "women need drama" crap. It seems to be there are plenty of women who complain about their husbands being terrible years on end and yet stay. And then there's plenty of men who get left because they were too nice and boring. So is it better to be a-holish than do the chores? It seems like a better strategy honestly. Obviously the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:33 PM
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It is good for a man not to be sexually involved with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:57 AM
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Disclaimer: this is just my personal view and opinion.This is a complicated question as human sexuality is complicated. Think of human sexuality on a spectrum or a pyramid from biological-primitive (bottom, low-end) to emotional/spiritual-advanced (top of the pyramid, high-end). The lowest expression of human sexuality is a meaningless raw physical pounding with a stranger. Little to no emotional connection, therefore emotionally and spiritually unfulfilling, at worst damaging, at best a trivial…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:23 AM
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Ok. It seems to me that human sexuality outside of marriage is a problem that simply cannot be resolved. I need to get off this subreddit, what am I even doing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:00 PM
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Excellent point. There's definitely a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:52 PM
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Both of these come with an emotional cost of experiencing betrayal of trust (among other things), which is a heavy heavy cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:51 PM
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I was just arguing in the other thread with someone who said women love to be seduced. So pick one. Either get seduced and get used or use your discernment. Same goes with men. If you let women use you for resources while accepting sex in the transaction then you lack discernment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:49 PM
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Yes. But my point is people need to learn from the mistakes they make. Not repeat them over and over and be a victim. "I did it because I was seduced" - in a kind of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:48 AM
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Because they get hurt and used? I've been seduced by women too but it's still a choice whether you choose to have sex with another person or not. That's why you need to vet them before you do. And I understand especially young people may lack experience and discernment. I don't want people to get hurt, manipulated and used regardless if they are women or men. But if you keep choosing manipulative partners who abuse you, YOU need to take responsibility and admit yourself to therapy to understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:42 AM
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Yes, men get seduced too and it is a choice to ACT on that seduction. You are always responsible for your ACTIONS. Being seduced by someone is NOT the same as having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:36 AM
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'Narcissist' as in having a Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)? Disagree. Like it or not, as people we make value judgements all the time whether we are conscious of it or not. There are traits that people value in a romantic partner so there're traits people do NOT value in a romantic partner. There's nothing wrong for having good self-esteem and not settling for people who lack the traits you desire. I understand what you mean in the context of an equal relationship with someone who's you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 08:16 AM
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The example of how people killing their born children? Nothing. That was an example of human brutality. The main theme from the book regarding female treatment is that they were regarded as cattle and at best children regarding their mental capacities. I think the simple reason female sexuality has been so demonised is simply projection. Men who are not born again in spirit are slaves to their lusts and as they do not take responsibility for their own disgusting desires they project them on wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 06:31 PM
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This is very true. I read a book written by a Finnish feminist and a historian on the history of women and how they were treated. It's probably one of the most eye-opening books there are. It not only exposes how cruelly women were treated but how disgustingly barbaric people were. One of the most sickening examples is how, as a means of "contraception" when people had kids they didn't want, they would kill the already born children by laying over them in their sleep so that the babies would suf…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 06:18 PM
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I understand. When I was still dating all the women I was with smelled extremely pleasant to me and it was connected to emotions of arousal. Pheromones are real.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:22 PM
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I would advice you not to insult God, for your own sake. Man is but a beast (666) without the Holy Spirit of God (777). God is a triune being and as we are created in his image we are triune as well (thoughts, emotions, actions). But as God is spirit, without his spirit dwelling in us we are consumed by the sinful desires of the mortal flesh and we are slaves to sin. When you receive the Holy Spirit you are happy and content are free from these desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 10:31 AM
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"For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.” Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preachb to sav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 09:45 AM
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Please don't insult God. I spent 10 years believing what you said and trust me, the power was NOT in me. My life got better thanks to God, I couldn't do it on my own. God got me off of drugs, helped me resolve a lot of my mental issues, narrowly got me out of jail among many other things. It happened so many times through mere 'coincidences' through things that were beyond my ability and power to control. At the end after years and years I was always forced to resort to sincere prayer and I need…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 09:02 PM
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Why of course, God bless you ^ ^
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:26 PM
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Nice catch, "A crazy cat lady" would be even funnier. I love dogs! They love us like God does, unconditionally and forgivingly. I really wanted to share that Bible passage with you since in my own language the word "foolishness" is translated as "craziness" which I find very amusing that God thought of a way to save people in a way that is very difficult for intelligent people to grasp but more easily understood by the more simple minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:25 PM
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Ha! Noticed your comment. How many cats do you have? Do you have a moment to listen what the Holy Amplified bible talks about being a fool for Christ's sake? "For the message of the cross is foolishness [absurd and illogical] to those who are perishing and spiritually dead [because they reject it], but to us who are being saved [by God’s grace] it is [the manifestation of] the power of God. For it is written and forever remains written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise [the philosophy of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:19 PM
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I applaud your courage and honesty. Thank you so much for sharing openly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:08 PM
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Yeah I guess if you were raised in a good family and you have a healthy sexuality and you manage to have healthy relationship I guess a person would have little need to look into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:06 PM
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Dude. Our bodies are supposed to be temples for the Holy Spirit and we are supposed to be part of the body of Christ. So yes, my whole body is in service with God. I used to want to have a long time partner but I recently changed my mind as I am happier and more at peace this way. "Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:06 PM
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You have Free Will to have and express your opinion man. The story I shared in the OP is genuine. "Why do you think women that are deeply damaged, highly sexual, sticky and needy is something a man should not be attracted to?" By attraction, I suppose you are talking purely about sexual attraction? If yes, the answer is because they are not the kind of women you would consider marriage material. If no, they are not the kind of women you would consider marriage material. Sin corrupts and kills us…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:49 PM
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Well since people who don't have a spirit of God dwelling within them are spiritually dead and only know the pleasures of the flesh, I don't think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:04 PM
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Reproduction is the point, the mere act doesn't satisfy the need completely. There's a reason why most people describe having children as the most transformative and incredible experience of their lives. The only good reason that comes to my mind is that outside of the context of marriage sex is a sin. Why is sin a bad thing? Because it kills us spiritually as it sewers our connection to the source of all Love and Goodness that is God.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:57 PM
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A fellow survivor, I pray that you may find healing in the Love of God. It sure is a long journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:51 PM
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This is very interesting to hear. Thank you for sharing. Human sexuality sure is a complex thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:49 PM
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The flesh of man is only concerned by the act, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:48 PM
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Great insight, thanks for sharing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:46 PM
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Well, this is just my understanding but women who've had many previous sexual partners are statistically less faithful. This is bad news for the offspring as the matrimony between man and a woman is supposed to be a psychological safe-haven for the kids to grow and mature to be successful adults. Successful people are less likely to come from broken homes. The ideal scenario is the one that goes according to God's commandments. If people must marry in order to prevent them from being sexually im…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:45 PM
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Shh, the mods are sleeping. I was actually interested in hearing men's answers too but I think this question was better directed to women directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:38 PM
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Most wild animals don't do LTRs now do they? Humans are more complex as our offspring requires much nurture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:45 PM
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I think the real problem is that in today's society so few men are truly men. I blame the decline in testosterone levels partly to this, it's biological warfare and depopulation aimed at men. A man needs to be someone every person can truly respect and overcome his fleshly desires with the spirit of God flowing in his body. If you have time and want to learn how the elite use subconscious programming among other things to depopulate us, please check out this lecture: https://youtu.be/65GNSDDnh_8
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:42 PM
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That's a good answer. Do you see in your interactions with men that they reflect your interactions with your father at an emotional level? I'm asking because knowing I'm attracted to wrong kinds of women I have to be very careful when I feel that familiar feeling of "deep love" towards someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:38 PM
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You are aroused by the act, not necessarily the consequences. It is good for women and men not to marry if they want go monk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:35 PM
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But do you know why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:17 PM
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Do you understand why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:16 PM
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It's also a deeply rooted biological thing. Feelings of sexual jealousy are related to the chance of another man fathering offspring to your mate. It's the same reason why men are biologically attracted to young women; because they are fertile. The sexual attraction is primitive. And since sexuality is so fundamental to us it is understandable that it is also deeply related to our self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:43 PM
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Amazing comment. Shared it on here: https://www.facebook.com/Red-Pill-Media-104701554400502/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:25 PM
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Q4W. Do women have a conscious understanding of what arouses them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:22 PM
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I care about the process because that tells about the person and how they got there which tells about their qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:17 PM
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I'm a conspiracy theorist, so I've been thinking for a while that we are seeing in a society at a larger level is a depopulation program. Look at Japan, so much of the young population is isolated, living their lives on the Internet and unable to mate. This is what is happening in most developed countries. This is not a good development for society as a whole. I think men and women are being brainwashed into hating each other so that we would be weaker as a people. The foundation of a strong soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:54 AM
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Really? There are studies that show women prefer pets to men. Ahahaha that's pretty funny honestly :D Perhaps the world would be a better place if we all got pets instead of trying to date. Men have a choice, nobody is forcing anyone to 'be a tool'. If you want to 'be a tool' then be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:21 AM
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Well, I guess some men do actually go their own way and we would never know. Why? Because those men would not lurk on forums or create MGTOW content. All we see are the men who create the content and lurk on forums. I think we all should stop get offline, stop browsing Reddit and just enjoy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:18 AM
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I'm happy for you man! Life's usually the best when I've been single too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:16 AM
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A lot of men could avoid heartbreak if they stopped pursuing women. "Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman." -1 Corinthians 7:1. So go monk. Ask any women here on PPD and they'd be happy if you stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 03:30 PM
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That's the comment I was looking for!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:55 AM
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I like this answer. Stonks ↓
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 04:50 AM
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This answer is so brutally honest. Thank you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 06:53 PM
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Reproduction is a physiological, biological and a psychological need at the very bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. And no, masturbation does not fulfill it. And if you are a woman you cannot comment on how men's needs work because unlike for women it's also a matter of stupid physiology as our stupid body keeps pumping semen into our stupid balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:49 PM
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Yeah but that just proves my point. You don't have problems getting sex so you have no reason to be bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:15 AM
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I'm so sorry to hear you've been lonely for so long, I feel that. I'll pray for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 09:13 AM
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Sorry, this is my personal projection because I was sexually abused that's how I FEEL about my sexuality. But there's nothing wrong with men's or women's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 08:46 AM
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True. A man who's been sexually abused by their own mother would.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 09:51 PM
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I love this comment, so on point. This is why more men need to stop focusing on women and focus on bettering themselves for their own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 09:12 PM
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As a Christian I'd say misogyny is good for the flesh but not good for the spirit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 09:07 PM
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I understand your point. This is a universal problem of our age. In places like Japan there are tons of single people but women who are single are more happy than men because women are single by their own choice, men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 09:06 PM
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Me too. What a foolish dream it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 09:05 PM
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This is a good and insightful comment. Thank you sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:55 PM
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I agree. I was a virgin until pretty late and the main reason I strove so hard to lose my virginity wasn't that I wanted sex so badly but that rather I was so afraid to falling out and becoming more and more isolated in that way. I've been blessed with good looks so luckily it wasn't that much of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:54 PM
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Why should you as a woman be attracted to someone whom you are not attracted to? You shouldn't. And neither should any guy. I'm guessing many of these guys would not be well-adjusted but does not being well-adjusted make their feelings irrelevant? Society at large seems to think so and in my opinion that is not a viewpoint that comes from a place of understanding, empathy or maturity. To your last question, I don't know but hey, maybe feeling validated in this way would be a great place to start…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:53 PM
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The rules are not made by guys, they are made by evolution and nature. No one can force attraction and desire, that's why you have to play by the rules if you want to get laid. As for the hierarchy, there are 4 other layers of top of the most primal ones. So just paying for sex or settling for someone you do not even want is not very healthy, yes? And it's not just a matter of blowing a load, unfortunately humans are more complex than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:20 PM
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Sex or "reproduction" is absolutely a physiological need, both for men and women. It's at the very bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs which holds much more ground than your opinion. Especially for men sex is a physiological need because our stupid body keeps pumping semen into our stupid balls which leads to us acting like idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:58 PM
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I agree. In general I've found Christian women to be much higher quality too. And by Christian I mean truly Holy Spirit filled Christian who are actually trying to live by Jesus's teachings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:42 PM
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I'm glad to hear that! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:39 PM
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My ex did tell me that it is fine and normal. Thanks for the encouragement. I used to date and chase women when I was younger but I'm almost in my 30s and rn I feel to vulnerable and fragile to approach women. I need to focus on my healing process. I feel way too broken inside. When all of this started I was actually going to have a ONS and I completely froze so rn I would first need to develop a really safe relationship emotionally to even consider anything sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:35 PM
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Yeah because this is Reddit and I'm guessing most people here are outliers. I'm certainly not normal and I think most guys only get into RP because they struggle with dating or because they went through a nasty relationship or a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:31 PM
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It's sad. I wish we could uplift people who struggle with dating instead of putting them down. Sometimes we do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:29 PM
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Thank you. I am and I have been for the past several years. It's been slowly getting better but I'm in a difficult place right now. Part of the process. I couldn't see myself dating at least not right now. Gotta keep on grinding I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:29 PM
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I'm hoping you found happiness and peace. I'm considering opting out from dating too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:26 PM
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Because we are human beings that long for companionship, love and connection? Sex is much more enjoyable too in a context of a deep relationship too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:25 PM
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I've consumed so much RP content I think I have a grasp on the nature of this said disappointment. Makes sense, sexual attraction is primitive and primitive is not pretty. I'm not even sure how to define myself anymore. I think I have an RP side (pessimistic) to my mind and a blue pill side (idealistic). If I'm being completely honest though I think most dating advice is irrelevant to me personally. That's because I was sexually abused as a child so emotionally I'm a sexually abused infant stuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:52 PM
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I felt the need to post this because tons of men here cite various other reasons. Maybe this is a good reminder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:44 PM
0

I'm still waiting for a link to one example. I've found plenty of puas and ex-puas describing women's nature as "ugly" but they're still not resentful and are successful in their LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:44 PM
3

Really? Can you give me a one example?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:58 PM
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I have no idea and I don't even know if there's a way to know. I guess you could study history on that (yuck). Suffice to say, that's how it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:51 PM
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Thanks for the clarification haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:47 PM
2

This comment should be higher. Reddit and pillism overload is a disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:33 PM
2

How do I do this? I'm unable to even set up a date with a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:32 PM
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I have heard so on so many occasions women say men are "projecting" themselves onto women. Well your post is an example of a woman projecting themselves onto men. Men in the aggregate do not care about how educated or well-earning a woman is. Women on the other hand do care about these qualities in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:12 PM
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The majority of those men are simply beta providers. It doesn't mean there's genuine sexual attraction. They are simply men who fulfill the provisional needs a woman may have. Multiple needs, multiple men. The true sexual attraction is for the higher level guys these women cheat their partners with. And these are guys who would never commit to a "lower value" woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:30 AM
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r/Men_of_the_Wall
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 03:44 AM
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I'm glad to hear to managed to heal! Thank you, likewise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 10:34 AM
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From my perspective, it doesn't matter. I don't care why a woman is a single mother, they made bad choices, I will never commit to a one since I want to have kids of my own. There are multiple dangers to date a single mother and this short video outlines them well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-o304ftoGM I'm sorry you've been abused, I truly am. A woman I used to date was raped by her ex husband and he manipulated her for years under threats of violence and emotional subordination. After her…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/20 08:59 AM
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Oh, I'm not claiming men and women are equal when it comes to the amount of lust. Testosterone by default makes men hornier. "Could she find a dozen men to fuck her a day? Could she cheat in every relationship with little effort?" She does and she will. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD3cYJ72pgU
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 08:06 PM
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Yes, but not as often. Because most of us aren’t looking for casual, no matter what the pillosphere believes. There was just another thread here on PPD with more than a few women claiming plenty of women do look for casual sex without commitment. So I don't what do believe anymore. Now I could socialise and figure it out myself but cough corona cough
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:49 PM
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Boohoo. I hope the RP / MGTOW spreads like a wildfire and that men would "man up" and leave these these hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:38 PM
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I know you mean well, and want to encourage her self esteem, but the problem with this is that it trivializes things, and might encourage other people to act poorly, since there's apparently no difference anyway. Well, I guess it all depends on the n-count number. I don't want to be judgmental but I personally expect every woman I date to have an n count that is at least double or triple mine. That's just reality. I was very chaste when I was younger so my n count is less than 10 and honestly I …
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/20 02:06 PM
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I've noticed that rp men don't seem to think that women can be genuinely horny. You seriously think that they're wanting to lock down every sexy guy they see? They can't just want to have fun? They can, but very often they do compete for these men and try to lock them down in one form or another. It's just what happens, most women want to tame the high-value guy who's in high demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:44 PM
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Because many men are waking up and no longer want to get settled for as Plan Z. To the hot, high value guy she's just a fortnight's fun. Not enough men. There are always desperate losers unfortunately. I hope these women are absolutely miserable with them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:41 PM
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I agree. Have kids with the hot guy and be a single mother. If any man is stupid enough to raise another man's child it's their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 01:41 PM
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You're likely fine. You are super young. You are not in any way damaged or unable to pair bond. Hold onto your faith, it will serve you well. Make amends with Jesus and confess your sins. Just focus all your effort into finding the best possible long term partner. Find someone who is strong and a leader but also has their life together and has good father qualities. Avoid hookups, players and losers who may be very skilled in seduction. Vet men extremely harshly because you are precious, you des…
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/20 12:18 PM
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Men become bitter because they take women way too seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 07:50 AM
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unlike all the men in here acting like their dry dicks are the end of the world. I love this comment. Thank you for the chuckle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 12:58 AM
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Most men are crap. They are either a) weaklings b) assholes. True strong men with integrity are rare. And those men would never be concerned with female approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 12:55 AM
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Most women would admit something like: "He was just this and that.." which is KEYWORD for she was seduced. It's still a choice to let someone seduce you or not. It's good to always take responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:39 PM
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You guys commit massacres over your hurt feelings. You're not more logic, you're less empathetic. I like you Lillth. Never change.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:51 PM
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Accusing people in being sexually attracted to abusers most likely won't help them, it will just make them defensive and probably bitter. Compassion is always a good thing, but some people need a wake up call.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:39 PM
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​ And my point is that it isn't always true. As I've written to other commenter, I lived in a village with really small population, so a lot of women had to move out to find a husband. And I'm guessing they did find them. If a person is insecure, they can stick to the first one who noticed them, even if they are terrible together. Guess this is true. Insecure people are more easily controllable. That's great, that's what people should do, but there still isn't any point in reminding them that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:46 AM
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​ It really depends on a person and their situation. In a small city or village there aren't always any options to beting with. This is not what I meant. I meant that women are always in demand, men are not. You don't believe that there are some highly insecure people of both genders, do you? I do but I can hardly see how it matters since men are the ones that approach. I'm not sure why you would bring up the "he turned on" stuff if someone was telling you that they have been abused. I've been i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:24 AM
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A person can be just extremely lonely or insecure, so they stick to whoever is around and ignore all red flags Women have always options, men to a lesser degree. I don't buy the lonely/insecure thing at all. I agree what you say about abusers but when there's a relationship there's attraction and sexual desire. I've been in an abusive relationship with a master manipulator. I don't argue that lust/desire is the only component, but it is always an component and some women do not want to admit tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:17 AM
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You talk about God and spirituality, so as a Christian I want to share what bible says about sex. https://ca.thegospelcoalition.org/columns/ad-fontes/5-surprising-things-that-the-bible-says-about-sex/ https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-sex/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:57 AM
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Honesty / Straightforwardness / Openness (for communication purposes) Kindness Loyalty (this one is up to me though, people are only as loyal as their options and I need to be someone worth committing to) Maturity Sanity / Mental Stability E: Removed filth, changed number 5 (was motherly affection towards children). So many people are commenting on attractiveness, to me that is relatively insignificant since I'm attracted to wide variety of traits and honestly if people do not have the traits li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:02 PM
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that's your own choice. Except when it's not bada-bum-tsh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:36 PM
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I kinda agree and kinda not. Depends how TRP is defined. I'm all for self-improvement but I think men are too obsessed with women and sex, I'd like men to focus on their goals and other areas in life first and foremost. Sexual energy can be controlled and sublimated. Men need to simply not 'care' about women and not as some bullshit strategy to gain women's attention but as a genuine way of life to build themselves up as future leaders and fathers. I think men shouldn't care about getting laid a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 10:58 AM
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Hmm maybe I should start reading the links I post. It would be easier I knew how to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 05:38 PM
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Sympathy, no. Empathy yes. I want women people to be happy, be the best versions of themselves, make good choices in life especially when it comes to partners, be good mothers and treat men with basic courtesy. I think empathy and understanding helps. Unfortunately many people today come from broken families which reflects on their poor choices in life and their mental health. I think society benefits when women and men work together, not in opposition to each other. Lastly, women are not in any…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 10:14 AM
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"Consider that beauty truly is, by a thin margin, in the eye of the beholder: https://www.livescience.com/52355-beauty-eye-beholder-environment.html# Symmetry isn't even always attractive: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7644543" Beauty is objective and measurable in the brain
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 05:24 AM
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...or you can risk neither of those? Whatever works for you though, your pipes.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre09/03/20 08:31 PM
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Remove the condom yourself, tie it off, and flush it down the toilet. Please don't do this shit, it's clogs the pipes. Only shit and piss is supposed to go into toilet. Rinse it with plenty of water until the condom is empty and throw it in the trash.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre09/03/20 08:12 PM
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Cheaters smh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 04:54 PM
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Men have more time to figure their shit out and work on themselves as they can have children to the later age. Women are pressured by the biological clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 04:37 PM
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Thanks man. I'm doing well, I'm currently in recovery processing my trauma of sexual abuse and to be honest I don't think I even want to be in a relationship at this point in my life. Sex to me has always been a difficult subject since although it is physically pleasant emotionally it's something that something that makes me feel disgusted and ashamed. Ironically, as I'm not interested in women at this stage of life it seems to make me more interesting to them. I've decided that I can use that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:11 PM
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The average male redditor is indeed struggling to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 07:46 AM
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No worries. You have to understand that from the perspective of evolution there's 500 million years of biological hard-wiring when it comes to reproduction and sexuality. Personally as a man who's a victim of sexual abuse I hate it and I wish that part of me vanished. By the way, Lous CK made a really funny stand-up joke about this very topic, you should check it out, I think you might like it. Louis CK - Constant Perverted Sexual Thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:17 PM
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Tbh I sometimes wish I was asexual. I hate my sexuality, it's a bothersome nuisance. I heard some guy was chemically castrated due to prostate cancer. Said it made him completely asexual. Sounds like a dream. Human sexuality makes me want to vomit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:13 PM
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They can't and they shouldn't. When these men grow up they learn that the best way to get sex is to be aloof and indifferent toward women, treat them like crap as that is more attractive. And that's why women should only befriend men who are in a relationship where they are getting their sexual meets met so they are not acting desperate. Just don't befriend people who know want to fuck you. And as a guy it is really difficult to see women as people, something about our brains and testosterone ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 01:40 PM
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As a victim of female-perpetrated sexual misconduct I'd say it is not rare, but it is somewhat different from male-perpetrated sexual misconduct. Women are way better and smarter at hiding it in a way that is difficult for them to get caught. The biggest difference-maker is testosterone, which makes men hornier and more aggressive when it comes to this type of misconduct. The similarity is that both have to do with power. I've been raped by my mother as an infant, which left me with life-long C-…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 12:19 PM
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Online dating is for losers. People of highest value do not need it and do not use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 08:22 AM
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In her 40s. 46 or 45 I think she mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 06:21 AM
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The real reason men don't get it as much as women is that there's this idea that women can't ask men out. It's changing though. The real reason women don't have to ask men out. It might change though. There are probably biological reasons as to why men are supposed to take the initiative. It's just the way things work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 05:30 PM
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Exactly, and that's what I hope more men would do in the future. There's tons of people in the manosphere giving this advice though so hopefully it spreads like wildfire. Working on it myself atm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 05:04 AM
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...that YouTuber is fucking crazy if she thinks she hit the wall. I'd hit that wall over and over again, if you catch my drift She's good looking, but I understood she missed her window to have children with a high value male due to fooling around so... She's not sexually attractive to me in the least though. I love what tons of porn is doing to my brain, women simply become invisible and you can be free of the sexual shame of having urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:46 PM
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Boring? Who cares if the world is boring if we can end wars, feed everyone, have free energy, discover secrets to eternal life and travel to other solar systems. I'm sure a spiritually evolved species can come up with number of ways to elevate their consciousness to avoid boredom. It's tricky because as things our now sexual desire is essentially life force that is linked to so much more than just sex, so it's difficult to imagine world without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:30 PM
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The world is changing. Men need to learn how to live without women and yet still motivate themselves to be the best versions of themselves. Luckily there are tons of men in the manosphere sharing incredible resources so I think humanity is going to pull it off eventually. This is just a bump in the road :) And I don't think truly high value women love bad boys and criminals. The problem is the family unit is destroyed so most women come from shitty families with absent father figures who weren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:27 PM
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Yes! YES! SHIT!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:14 PM
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Thanks, I'm trying hard but I still have way too many emotions to kill. I still feel bad for hurting people and that makes me feel like I'm such a failure as a psychopath :(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:05 PM
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Yes I know, and that's a problem. I'm heartbroken by state in which so many young men are today. I personally believe society needs men to be strong in order to flourish, but we are literally destroyed by this technology that is nuking our brains with quick and easy pleasure. I hope men can overcome the reproductive problem and live fulfilling lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 09:04 PM
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Yeah, that's my point. I wish there was a way to remove human sexual desire altogether so that we could use our reason clearly and uninterrupted. Just imagine for a moment how much better the world would be if human sexuality ceased to exist altogether. Men would probably act much more rationally and work on to build a better world instead of obsessing about women and sex. Societies are ruined because of sexual immorality, single mothers, rape, child sex trafficking, child abuse, porn industry, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:59 PM
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When I look at the younger dudes I work with, a huge chunk of them are socially stunted video game/internet addicts and their social lives are mostly online. They're not out there living interesting lives and talking to women, they're gaming, talking to other dorks on discord, and swiping on tinder. They're boring, uninteresting and weird. In a social situation they’re buried in their phones. Hey HEY HEY I DON'T COME TO THIS SUB TO BE JUDGED LIKE THIS. SCREW YOU!. ... ...you're absolutely right …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:08 PM
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For 57th time. I haven't seen that, make it 58th.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:05 PM
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I think it's a mix of biology and societal programming that fuels hypergamy. Women have options so they pick the best they can get. I think men should focus on being the best versions of themselves and do everything they can do to be as happy as possible barring having a relationship or a sex life. Reasons: -Low self-esteem -Anxiety -Depression -Lack of confidence -Lack of experience -Lack of status -Lack of muscles -Lack of drive -Lack of good looks -No assertiveness -No goals or ambition in li…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:03 PM
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/r/Men_of_the_Wall/ Briffault's law applies regardless of women's age. Dick is cheap and abundant, unfortunately for our society. I wish more men had more noble aspirations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 06:58 PM
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Always happy to be corrected. Thank you the response and also for the reputable source.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 05:48 PM
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It is not. It's a way of understanding evolutionary biology that is based on science. AFBB is part of women's sexual nature (hypergamy) and it's biologically related to their ovulatory cycle. During the first 14 days of the cycle women are more attracted to more masculine men with more testosterone-based "alpha" traits (arrogance, confidence, jawline, need for dominance, deep voice etc.) and this intensifies towards the time of ovulation. The evolutionary purpose of this is to breed with the bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 05:29 PM
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This is the difficult distinction between attraction and arousal. Human sexuality is truly a disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 09:15 AM
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" The ratio between 30+ single men and 30+ single women is laughable. " Can anybody provide statistics? Very curious and would prove the point out that women do hold more inherent power when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 09:01 AM
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"This damage to the social contract is likely irreparable". While I disagree with the basic premise of your argument, this statement is nonsense. It's useless doom and gloom drivel. What we are seeing today is simply a phase on the longer process of societal evolution. We simply didn't have the technology to prevent pregnancies and STDs in the past, it's all brand new just like the fact that women work and are taxed like men. Has this newfound 'freedom' had negative consequences? Sure, but it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 05:57 AM
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Well, just like /u/hehatemeat said, women will pick up on if you're below a certain threshold of experience
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 04:32 PM
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Damn. I need to up my number then. I just don't want to sleep with worthless dirty sluts just for the sake of the number
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 04:31 PM
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Yup. I had to respond since you made a blanket (all men) statement. Otherwise your point is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:53 PM
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"I’m just saying earlier 30s for men seems as if it would be the equivalent of early 20s to women in terms of options." Disagree. For low value men it might be worse than when they were younger (15-20). And good luck trying to lose your virginity in your 30s lol. My friend didn't have a lot of experience and women he managed to date told that they were not interested in "training" him. Sex is all about performance and you won't get into LTRs if you cannot even get over the 'base' threshold. Mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:40 PM
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You NEED to rack up experience as a man, otherwise you'll be deemed undesirable/worthless by the vast majority of women later in your life. Most women (if you're different I don't care, don't respond) WILL look down on you and value you less if you don't have sexual experience. It's understandable and totally ok and women need to stop lying about not caring about this. Please for the love of God don't tell me or any man it doesn't matter because it absolutely does and it makes sense. *cough* hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:29 PM
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Awesome post. Thank you for sharing
/r/RedPillWomen26/02/20 09:16 AM
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Men who are trying to give women hook up advice are idiots. I'm done with this sub. You're trying to change millions of years of how biological female attraction works by saying things like "don't use non verbal clues". Why would women ever approach and risk rejection and humiliation? If they are attractive they have plenty of options and they know that the best options (most assertive etc.) will pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 05:26 AM
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It's not a stupid question at all. It's phrase not commonly used. It's basically the male equivalent of "daddy issues" which is a broad phrase referring to (usually) young women who's fathers were abusive and absent thus leading these women to be attracted to wrong kind of guys. "Mommy issues" can be anything that's unhealthy between the emotional dynamic between a mother and a son that reflects itself on the romantic relationships. Here's the Urban Dictonary definition: "Mommy issues is actuall…
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/20 05:58 PM
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This is what they mean
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:48 PM
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Misogny? Don't you mean misandry? I'm shitting on men not women here. I'm the guy who for the longest time preferred older women for the reasons you mentioned only to grow out of it and realize my own immaturity. And I meant "value" strictly in the biological context of having a family and having kids, which in my opinion is the the mature thing for a man to do. And last thing, maturity doesn't necessarily come with age, it depends if a person is willing to work on themselves or not. Sometimes "…
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/20 04:44 PM
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"In his profile hes only looking for fun and something discreet. He was upfront about what he wanted." "That hes a man who has needs and also feels lonely and longs for someone to hold at night etc but right now not looking for anything serious." Unlike women, when we guys say things like this we actually mean it. Look for other options, it's the most likely thing that might draw him to you. There's nothing you can do, he has already made up his mind. Watch this video to understand better: https…
/r/RedPillWomen22/02/20 04:21 PM
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Your boyfriend is immature, ignorant and has mommy issues. He wants to be mothered by someone "stronger" instead of taking responsibility wanting to lead. I personally think this is true for all men that are attracted and being able to be seduced by an older women who's obviously lower value. Older women have more experience and are able to play with a man more efficiently. In any case, this is good for you. As a male who's worked through his own personal "mommy issues" this is my 2 cents.
/r/RedPillWomen21/02/20 09:14 PM
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That wiki has compiled actual verified studies that you cannot refute by 1. stating that it's a wiki 2. by incel shaming. Btw I'm actually applying to go back school this spring to wish me luck :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 05:48 PM
1

Beauty is objective and measurable in the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 04:23 PM
6

You're probably right. 20 is very conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:37 PM
1

That is true. I stand corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:31 PM
2

It isn't as simple as that. Women have the menstrual cycle and in the first half of it he wants the alpha, especially at the time of ovulation. After that she's fine with staying with the beta who provides protection and other perks. Notice also that I never said 80% of men do not have sex, but that 20% of men do 80% of the bangING.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:31 PM
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"It’s so difficult to sympathize with redpilled/blackpilled dudes for one reason: how on earth is it some shocking, devastating, groundbreaking revelation that women are attracted to attractive men?! How is this extraordinarily logical fact a huge enough deal to form a whole philosophy on? How could SO many of you not have known this?" Societal conditioning and lying about reality. Men are told that if they just "be themselves" it's going to be ok and that women like "nice guys". It takes time t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:16 PM
1

Briffaults Law is the basis of my argument on why females (women) not males are the stronger sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:09 PM
1

Hmm. Good point. But there are things men can do to influence hypergamy, such as gain status and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:08 PM
0

Get on Tinder and you'll find a cuck husband for sure. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:07 PM
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Check out Briffaults Law to understand my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 09:04 PM
2

I like your comment. You changed my view. Thank you. WE HAVE A WINNER!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:59 PM
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I have to say that I'm unable to respond to your argument because I'm simply unmatched in comparison to you when it comes to understanding of this topics. So I tip my hat off to you and thank you for your insightful comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:58 PM
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You’re not arguing that women are stronger, you’re arguing that women are the more privileged sex. Which is probably true and explains many things. Secondly, your argument doesn’t follow. If competitive forces that encourage improvement towards “alpha traits” exists for men but not women, it suggests women are coddled and definitionally not the stronger sex. Shitpost is shitpost. No I'm arguing 'stronger'. Strength is power. In nature it is almost always the male that works hard in order to impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:55 PM
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He's saying that if men wanted to, we could treat women like cattle where they would be housed and bred against their will. It's possible. We have the strength, the manpower, and the technology. All that's missing is the collective will. This is possible for women, too (as they sometimes joke), if the men in our society continue becoming more docile and feminized. Just don't forget that if it was like this the strongest, most ruthless males would kill off the weaker ones in order to reproduce
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:51 PM
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Everything has to do with attracting a mate. Deep within our subconscious there's the mother of all fears, which is the fear of death. All of our other fears are connected to this fear. Similarly all of our pleasure can be linked to our most primal needs, the most strong of which is the need to life and thus reproduce (carry on living). I'm trying to say that deep in our biology we are primitive animals that on the context of evolution have just barely become conscious enough to realize any of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:50 PM
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I know you're joking but you still should read The Myth of Male power if you haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:44 PM
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Well, I guess it makes sense then why hypergamy is such a big taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:42 PM
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I still don't understand what you mean by "pleasure prisons full of women" and how it is "sustainable". Alpha fucks all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:41 PM
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I've watched it. And it isn't a documentary. It's up to us as a society to fight for education, higher learning and our rights. Hypergamy does automatically weed out the weaker and less desirable genes. Intelligence is one of the traits desirable by hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:38 PM
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It's their choice to wait. There are always options, although they get worse with time. Hypergamy isn't some uncontrollable force of nature like polygamy isn't. It can be understood and recognized. The problem is simply talking about it is a social taboo. Open relationships are for losers and cucks as far as men are concerned. And yes, hypergamy does weed out some women too but they have an option to get impregnated by an alpha and look for a beta (or government) for provisioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:33 PM
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Good times produce weak men, weak men produce bad times, bad times produce strong men. Men will adapt and the 20% is always relative to the other 80%. It's all a cycle and it's always been this way. We have it way better than than our ancestors ever did, equality and human rights don't look too bad for me. Population rates will decline but maybe it's a good thing since we are so underdeveloped as a species we are unable to provide for everyone despite our scientific understanding. It's going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:30 PM
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Yes. Natural selection weeded out a single weak specimen, so what? Most healthy women survive childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:25 PM
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Maybe this would be true if hypergamy actually selected for traits that are beneficial to the continued survival and advancement of our species and society. But it doesn't. I beg to differ. How many narcissists and psychopaths are in positions of power? Plenty. These people get shit done and destroy those that are weaker than them. They are winners in our society. You need to cultivate "alpha" traits in order to be strong and win. Strong men are good for the society, but since there are narcissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:23 PM
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Wait, if only 20% of men are “worthy” of being with a woman wouldn’t that mean they are less common and a lot harder to find? That’s just simple supply and demand a product that is in high demand but low supply is worth more. So those 20% of men are the prize. Of course if a woman can’t find a 20% man than she will settle for a 80% man because the 80% woman has the ability to do that. But she still have to settle. That’s why you see so many 80% men in relationships. I never said 20% are "worthy"…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:20 PM
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Well women need to man up and stop caring what men think. Men need to stop being bitches and face reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 08:15 PM
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You miss the most sedentary point...women have the power that men allow them to have because of the difference in evolutionary traits of the two genders. -"Allow" is kinda tricky verb to use. Yes socially I guess men "allow" that but you cannot simply deny the biological drive for reproduction. Given the imbalance in natural strength, aggression and drive to compete and build, men could simply take all the pussy they want and there would be little that women could do about it.....There is a reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:45 PM
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With that logic why not have eugenics? Because it's nonsense. First of all there is no such thing as "the best genes". There's far more benefit to each woman taking a partner, reproducing and under changing environments or conditions have successful genes survive and unsuccessful genes perish. Women are not some laboratory scientist that analyse what the best genes are, who have them and then fuck that guy silly. Otherwise Swarzeneggers would be 24/7 filling different girls waiting in line Hyper…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:33 PM
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On number 2 I would say that after making something of themselves, more men are not going for the marriage and relationship thing. Being 'alpha', as you say, is just boring and one dimensional. Men are realizing that it's much better to become something, not for women, but for themselves. And so when women come along once those men are successful, those men are now just staying single. Why not? That's what 'alphas' do, right? Alphas can and do have families. They can just play the field for very…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:27 PM
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We need both sexes obviously. We are not in the stone age because men competed over women. The base desire for reproduction fuels every other effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:23 PM
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Tell that to the hordes of fatties I've turned down at the clubs the past 12 months or so. Men can be choosers to. Men can be hypergamus too. Women being the stronger sex is a joke as well. Both sexes have their advantages and disadvantages. 99% of women can't kick my ass and I'm not even that strong. Women spend more time on make up and all that shit than men. They are competing too. They just compete differently. You're 20'%. What's new? Of course 20% can be choosers. Women are stronger simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:23 PM
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#3. Men are lied to and told this isn't how reality is, but instead are fed BS for half their lives that this isn't the case. Yes. And this is the biggest problem. We need truth and transparency.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:21 PM
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Are you MGTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:20 PM
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You remove that element and we could have pleasure prisons full of women. I haven't done the math but this is probably sustainable. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:19 PM
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So you mean 20% of men are the stronger sex and the remaining 80% of men and 100% of women are their slaves? -No Women are naturally selected too. But as a cucked society we try everything so women stop being selected while putting more pressure on men. -Men need to be more selective I agree. It's not women's fault most men are just bitching instead of working on themselves to maximize their alpha traits. Man I hope women won't regret it the day we go sharia law 2.0 in white countries as a count…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:18 PM
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Yes. I think the problem is that female hypergamy is such a big social taboo. It needs to be understood, researched and openly discussed and accepted. You can't change millions of years of evolutionary biology like that, we just need to make sure we act in the ways that is best for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:16 PM
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I’d argue that women know their own sexuality more than women do. I guess it depends on the woman then. I honestly do not know how many women are aware that variations in their ovulatory cycle affects their sexuality and sexual preferences. I also do not know how many women are aware of hypergamy as a strong sexual drive comparable to polygamy in strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 05:23 PM
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Well. There's a difference between what women claim they're attracted to and what they are actually attracted to. There's a difference between what understand and accept on a consciousness level what is attractive to them vs. what turns them on subconsciously. There's a difference between honesty and lying. Women often get judged when they are brutally honest about what actually turns them on, so usually women describe socially acceptable things they look for in a long term relationship (funny e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 03:56 PM
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" I can’t for the life of me understand how men here can be so knowledgeable about what women are/aren’t attracted to and still want them to sleep with men they’re not." My brain hurts reading this question. Men here still want them to sleep with men they're not? Can you clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 02:40 PM
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I don't know about sex robots, I think people are overrating them and their influence. But the combination of VR porn and some kind of fleshlight contraption is actually a scary thing. But then on the other hand, the rate at which AI is developing it's probable that we'll see programs possibly surpassing human intelligence in our lifetime. And then we all die. *shrugs*
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:29 PM
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Evolutionary biology and need for safety
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 02:45 PM
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That was a great story, thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 08:07 AM
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I want personally a long term relationship, the sex is way better and that is what I enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 08:29 PM
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Because male sexuality is a ****ING DISGRACE! Idk I hope all men could get laid regularly so that they wouldn't be so obsessed with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 03:17 PM
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Yes, finding validation in sex is creepy and shows poor mental health. For a woman. But for a man it's a little bit different since sex doesn't just happen. Most men have to work hard for the chance of it. And if they are unsuccessful aka. unattractive of course it's going to affect their mental health and self esteem. Imagine no one wanting you. Similar to when older women start complaining that they are invisible to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:47 AM
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The marketplace determines who is high value and who is not. If a guy's getting laid he's high value. The feelings of any individual woman are irrelevant. There's a difference between relationship value and sex value. Both for men and women. But you have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:45 AM
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Because women are never nice to men. So in that incredibly rare case that a woman is nice to them they think they’re interested in something more, because they never are nice. The exception to this are the really good looking guys. Good looking people have it easier regardless of gender. I'm a guy and I've had it way easier than some of my peers simply due to my looks & height.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:41 AM
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This is the best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:39 AM
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Nah we are all plan Bs
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:37 AM
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I think it's more biological. Positive signs = sexual approval on the primitive level of the psyche. Most people may not be as aware of these primitive thoughts and may not be able to question them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 12:14 AM
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We already got one!
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/20 03:54 PM
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That scientific stuff is bogus. This is why r/nofap existed. The creator is going on a legal battle with the porn industry and those scientists are paid to fabricate those studies. Someone's in denial. And yeah r/nofap exists as men have discovered the benefits of abstaining from masturbation and porn. Your point was? I wouldn't be surprised about the legal battle, porn is a big business and the information about it's harmfulness, especially the scientific proofs that we have, are relatively new…
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/20 03:54 PM
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I don't think it's healthy to watch porn in general Scientifically, it isn't.
/r/RedPillWomen16/02/20 12:32 PM
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I don't get this. How does this work? Does hypergamy somehow make women think LTR will follow from an ONS? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 11:58 AM
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Thank you for your honesty. On the scale from 1-10 how would people rate you (out of interest)? I don't think anyone should 'settle', people have free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 11:57 AM
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You live in the US?
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre12/02/20 07:01 AM
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Your username checks out. Have an upvote. And yeah, get out and off the internet. Edit: Reddit is cancer, internet in cancer, pillism is cancer etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 12:08 PM
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I never care about hotties. Average or below average face with chubby body is my type. I don't find skinny girls that fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 10:07 AM
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I understand your sentiment, I hate the world too and most people. You can either consider yourself as an "isolated" material individual or a cell in an organism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 07:38 PM
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You are correct. Thank you for posting this. I'm still figuring this stuff out for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 06:20 PM
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You could be right, I really do not know. But what I've understood about hypergamy it is more than simple sexual "lust" for a "higher status" man. It also evokes feelings of security etc. I could be wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:43 PM
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I kinda see what you mean but uncontrolled/unnoticed hypergamy also causes a lot of issues, especially in LTRs. For example a wife "falls in love" with some fuckboy, divorces and it breaks up the family and traumatizes the kids not to mention the damage caused to the partner. There are unfortunately negative implications to both polygamy and hypergamy. People should be educated about these things though, perhaps that would help them be cognisant of these urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:06 PM
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Men don't want to control their urges. Women don't either. If it feels good most people do it, because most people are selfish pieces of shit with a satanistic mindset. Women just have lower sex drives in comparison. Because I'm a heterosexual male I'm not competent for comment on the rest of your comment, as I don't date men. All I can say is that I'm sorry that you've had this unfortunate experience of what sounds like a mix of uncontrolled male polygamy and immaturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:55 PM
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Ew Yes I know, it's all disgusting. But the sad reality is that most guys that cannot get laid are most likely not able to get on nofap successfully, though they should try it. The second "best" thing in order to combat thirstiness is abuse porn until it kills your sex drive by overloading your brain with visual stimuli.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:50 PM
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Honestly I would probably work far less and contribute much less to society if I wasn't concerned about staying on top of my game and being desirable. If it works for you, it's all good as long as you are not hurting other people. I get that we people have primitive base desires that are very strong. By "something actually worthy" I meant things like helping and healing other people, making the world a better place and evolving yourself spiritually, so called "higher" aspects of human consciousn…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:47 PM
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All the problems we see today in dating stem from men having too much freedom to express their sexuality. Blaming men only is short sighted. I'd say rather most problems are due to people lacking true self-knowledge and understanding and being slaves to their primitive urges and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:37 PM
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CMV: You’re an idiot I agree. What I meant is that if you forgo having sex and pursuing it you can direct your thoughts and emotions to greater pursuits with way more efficiency. Think about it. After you've masturbated or had sex, you are satisfied and likely do not have the same "drive" to do and pursue things if you didn't "release". This has been true in my own case and other people have read about this subject too. Think how much time, effort and energy an average guy spends thinking and pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:34 PM
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I disagree. Society wants male sexuality to be invisible and repressed. I do too, thirsty guys are disgusting and pathetic. And who cares about what society thinks anyway? Trust me, most women will be happy guys are treating them as non-sexual subjects, like a lamp or a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:13 PM
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Sure you can "enjoy" sex and sexuality. -If you are able to have sexual relationships in the first place. I know I'm sounding like an incel but there are people who struggle with this. I have and at times still do. It's stupid and bothersome. -If you are able to trust people enough to risk cheating/STDs/pregnancies/false rape allegations. -If you are willing to put up with people and their fucking bullshit. Attachment, emotional baggage and relationships. Fuck that. Relationships pose tremendous…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 02:42 PM
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Can't be picky if you can't work and support yourself! Glad that's in the past now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 02:07 PM
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I agree. I'm getting fucking sick of male sex drive and human sexuality in general. It's a fucking useless waste of time and energy that could be sublimated into something actually worthy. Here's my CMW: If you are a male and you can afford internet and a fleshlight, how do you even get thirsty for women after you've jerked off? I understand the need for intimacy, but sex? Just jerk off and you're done. Horny again? Jerk off again. Just do it until you don't care anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 02:06 PM
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People have the right to freedom of speech. Is using terms as "used goods" derogatory? Yes and I personally wouldn't. However, here is the thing, I absolutely do THINK and RECOGNIZE there are women like this. I do see women like this and think, "wow, she's been used". The fact is that dating is a marketplace, women and men value different things, and it also varies depending on the person. Does a 30 year old single mother have same "value" as a 20 year childless woman? No, to most men the answer…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:38 AM
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Mostly yes. So they do share a beta view of women. It's part of the problem. This has nothing to do with it. Women are the biggest consumers of products in comparison to men. That's why companies cater to political views that appeal to women, to sell more products to them. Most men are doormats that follow women so if you control women in the population you end up controlling men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 07:52 AM
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This list had some good points on what not to do and how to fix it.
/r/RedPillWomen07/02/20 01:26 PM
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I don’t think straight men can handle it 🤷‍♀️ These fucking hormones I swear...my boners are platonic ok? Edit: Wait how do you have a yellow flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 12:25 PM
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well that will certainly help men be attractive to women and get sex. Fuck women and sex. I just want hugs :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 12:20 PM
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How so? Elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 03:01 PM
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Men Getting Triggered Over Women
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre06/02/20 12:01 PM
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The true nature of female sexuality and what women find sexually attractive as opposed to what they claim they find attractive. Here's more scientific info on that. I was never really 'lied to'. It was more of a process of maturation and gaining more information, experiences and understanding on women. The world is full of painful and uncomfortable pieces of Truth that most people would rather shy away from than accept in order to maintain a positive outlook on life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 03:29 PM
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Yeah. Because I'd be a guy and would want to have regular sex. Have you ever seen these screen-captures of very unattractive, obese women on Tinder with tons of matches? With that many matches there will be always to date you as well. Men's standards are way lower than women's, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 07:25 PM
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Yes. But most women would not admit to this. Some people have morals too so nOt aLL w0m3n aRe LiEk dAt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 07:49 AM
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You live in US by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 06:44 AM
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You are on point. This is exactly the problem. Men are too thirsty and lack self-respect. Although I also understand men, I struggled with this myself when I was younger and was lacking options. But luckily I was so prideful that I wouldn't stoop low into getting sex, like trying seduce some women I absolutely despised as a person. I utilised porn and aimed for relationships. Worked on myself, and I'm glad I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 06:42 AM
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N0t aLL mEn aRe LikE tHaT
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:34 AM
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Can't anymore. Chopped them off in my sexual frustration. Now I'm free!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 05:32 AM
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*Human sexuality is depraved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:45 PM
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Sex certainly can be and is used as a tool of control. Absolutely. And stupid men allow this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:44 PM
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Obviously not. Since you are on this sub you should understand the sexual dynamic between genders. Women are gatekeepers to reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:43 PM
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We are animals and we are not capable of being “higher beings” No we are not. We are human beings and we are vastly different from animals. Yes, we have a primitive animal component and needs to our bodies and consciousness, what makes us superior to animals is our capability to move beyond those needs, senses and urges in our actions. How are we not able of being "higher beings"? I mean just take a look how fast human societies, technology and cultures have developed! Let me share a quote with …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:13 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:03 PM
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This leads to this almost desperate attempt to find some reason why men should be shamed out of enjoying it and why it should be banned. Porn is a drug. It's a sad substitute for the real thing. People defend it because they enjoy it (like any drug user would), but the fact is that it has harmful effects on the brain and human heart. There's growing body of evidence showing exactly how destructive porn is. Plus, by watching porn you are supporting human and child trafficking. And I am saying thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:02 PM
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OP has a very odd mind set about sex. And not a healthy one either. You got me. It's probably due to the fact that I was raped by my parents as an infant. I'll admit it, my perspective on sex does probably differ from most people. I used to wish that aspect of myself didn't exist at all, let alone in other people, but I have had positive and healing experiences since. Still though, there's something about sex that feels utterly repulsive, animalistic and disgusting to me, I'll admit it. This doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:54 PM
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In no way, shape or form I'm giving away my power. The fact that you feel like you do, is probably the reason you are not happy with how sexuality works. In a way, yes you are. Attention, time and care are a spiritual currencies, that's actually all you have and own. If you 'spend' all of your attention/time/care (the true mon-eye [one eye]) on looking at women, drooling at them in lust and looking at porn, you won't have any left for yourself. Think of a typical incel or MGTOW who spends so muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:50 PM
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I agree. But I meant this in the context of solely focusing on our animal drive, which for a lot of guys means desperate attempts to try to get laid while forgetting all the other aspects of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:41 PM
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But that's exactly my point! If you are solely focused on women you will get NEITHER. Your chances of finding a good partner increase as you ignore women for a while and focus on improving other aspects of your life. That makes you more interesting and attractive. I have never been in a position where "just be yourself" would be good enough, and it is so for many other men too. My goal is to get married and have kids, that's why I'm working so hard in other to attract someone who would make a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:39 PM
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There's a LOT wrong with my me, that's why I've spent the last 10 years of my life fixing myself in order to have a shot at life in the first place. I wasn't good enough for those women that would have made good mothers 10 years ago and honestly, I wouldn't have been even able to be a husband and a father due to my mental health issues (mainly psychotic depression, BPD and PPD). The fact that I'm able to work now is a miracle. My goal is to get married and have a lovely life, that is precisely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:32 PM
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You make a false dichotomy between someone who wastes all his time and energy jerking off and pursuing girls and some wise man achieving glorious life goals. This is an interesting point, thanks for bringing it up. I've suffered from sexual self-hatred in the past and I am a kind of a hermit. I guess this is the male variant of the whore/madonna-complex in a sense. I personally believe and have experienced that if my status is "high" enough the women will come to me eventually, so there's no nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:23 PM
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I changed the flair of the OP to "Discussion". Hopefully that is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:59 PM
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Why was the comment removed? Did it break any rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:44 PM
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I'm aware of the risks, trust me I've read so many horror stories it's insane. Cheating to me is inevitable in any relationship, it's only a matter of time. I'm only thinking what's best for the kids, and it would be a shitty thing for me to do to cheat so I won't. If my wife would get caught she would lose her face in front of her kids. Divorce is almost given too, but then again all you can really do is do your best to prevent it and be the best dad you can be. Children are worth any and all s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 11:32 AM
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I don't care. I'm willing to sacrifice sex in order to raise my children well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 11:17 AM
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Second to that. Please, you have still hope in seeing people neutrally without bitter vitriol. Leave this sub, heck leave Reddit, hell leave the whole Internet if you can. This place distorts your mind while pumping your brain full of dopamine so that you get addicted and can't stop browsing. Please for the love of Truth leave now until it's too late, I can sense from your OP that you are a sensible, good human being. I want you to stay that way friend...leave...now...before...I...I...can't...ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:40 AM
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That subreddit seems really wholesome. I'll check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:38 PM
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Verbal human communication is based mostly on lies. Body language is where the truth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 12:48 PM
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Internet too much. I actually went out with some friends recently and it felt like breath of fresh air. Reddit is cancerous echo-chamber, go socialise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 12:43 PM
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For me, romantic relationships are about eventually having a family. I'm looking for a woman that has qualities that would make her a good mother. I actually care about that more than that they would be a good partner to me, I'm thinking more of the kids. So, in reverse, I appreciate women who look for qualities in men that would make them a good father. Meaning empathy and good humane characteristics, loyal, loves children, mental stability etc. Not just someone who's hot and good for sex but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 12:36 PM
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*crickets chirping*
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 04:29 AM
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Is there anything you think you could do in order to increase your odds of success? I don't mean this in a condescending way. Life is a numbers game. You've recognised the issue, what are you going to do about it? And to your question. I don't have any revenge fantasies. I hope that all people could find their ideal partner regardless of gender. Wish you success.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 10:48 AM
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I really don't care that much, but since I'm posting here I'm curious as I see people being called out constantly about "bluebill fantasies".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 10:43 AM
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As a ma...well a male I agree. Porn and fleshlight help, and there are also ways to sublimate your sexual energy into more productive things than trying to chase women (e.g. creative pursuits). Nature is unfair, and some people are unable to reproduce. If I was a ugly low status man I would probably try not to pursue sex/relationships and focus on loving myself and other things life has to offer. I could for example start a movement and try to connect with other people who have similar struggles…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:01 PM
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....and civilization saved. That's no joke. The number of "leftover males" is growing rapidly I hear this a lot but are there any statistics or studies to back this up? Links would be appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 08:02 AM
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Wow! I didn't expect any positive comments. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:56 PM
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"The vast majority of naturally good looking, well off, charismatic guys I know (a) had no trouble hooking up with women throughout high school and young adulthood (b) had no trouble finding happy long term relationships and marraiges whenever they were ready to settle down (c) are still in healthy, lasting relationships and enjoying family life and fatherhood" I'm naturally good looking relatively charismatic and I did. I had few "girlfriends" and interest when I was younger but despite this I …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 01:56 PM
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I'm loving this thread. Love to hear from women's side and these are great points that my ex often brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 08:03 AM
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Face fear Tap into your anger, it's there somewhere and it is as healthy of an emotion as joy or happiness Nofap (increases T levels, motivation tech) Excercise Martial arts, self-defence Challenge yourself, cultivate interpersonal growth and development Work on your personality, know yourself and your strenghts and weakpoints. Focus on career and making money Learn game and how to approach women, study human evolutionary psychology Have a social life Bond with other men Focus on yourself, forge…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 12:36 PM
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Your attitude is the issue. Whether or not you get woman should not matter. You should lift and dress well because it improves your life regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:57 PM
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You're at the crux of the issue when it comes to many men. Women in general are more pragmatic and accept the nature of the game. They'll do pretty much anything to appear more attractive externally because that's what men seem to mostly value. I hope that men would start valuing more other things. And your sex drive is only an issue when you're young. When you get older you have to start to limit your porn consumption in order not to kill off your sex drive completely. Issues like having childr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 05:55 PM
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This is my life. Fuck BPD
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:10 PM
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How does that prove FDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 01:09 PM
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This is what I thought. My people aren't even aware of their own subconscious primitive impulses much less having an compelling understanding of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 04:28 AM
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don't underestimate how many dudes spend half their lives watching porn but are squeamish af about pussy I'm in this picture and I don't like it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:22 PM
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People actually communicate who they are, but underestimate how often people pick it up. I agree. Body language is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:19 PM
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That's a hallmark for BPD You called me, I came.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:18 PM
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Men don't matter. Dick too cheap. Just watch porn until you don't care anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 04:20 AM
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Please let Chris Rock explain it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 04:23 PM
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u/Reisiluu Dude check out his response: " I'd say it was a combination of the fact that A) I was NOTHING like the guys they had been with in the past (for starters, I'm Asian), B) knowledge of their sexual history, and C) how they treated me. I could taste the condescending sentiment in the air. "
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:55 AM
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I'm glad you're doing well man! I'm closing my into my 30s and making wayy less. Time to get to school I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:53 AM
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Tinfoil hat time! Tbh honest I think what's taking place in US. is mind-control. Women are being brainwashed with princess programming and natural hypergamic tendencies are being exasperated. In my country women are actually super independent, more family oriented and value money less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 09:51 AM
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Man that sucks, I feel you. Totally would've dumped them too. If I was constantly reminded of my SOs ex I would tell her to fuck off. You made a good choice. Btw, do you live in US? It seems like the culture with women is the worst with there. Maybe try travelling and moving to another country for a bit? And always put yourself first man, that's the best thing to do. Better to be happy alone than miserable with a settler.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:35 AM
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This. It's just nature. And men can do a lot of raise their own value. There's porn + a lot of other interesting things to do on planet Earth rather than just try to get with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:31 AM
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I don't know if this is actually true, but it's an interesting thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:30 AM
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You reek of self hatred. I feel bad for you and I hope you can find someone to make you feel better about yourself. 99,9% is NOT reality bud, that's just emotional reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 08:28 AM
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I'm curious about this too. What evidence do you have you were a safe option? What it just a general feeling? Something about the way they treated you? Knowledge of their sexual history? Did your partners have any regrets about some better options than you that they "let go"? These for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:50 AM
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/u/RinneReghanRue I totally understand you. I've been feeling so depressed over reading too much TRP related stuff. I've heard many relationships broken over people getting into this information so it's not all good. Sometimes I get my tinfoil hat on and think that TRP/MGTOW/FDS stuff would be great to break up families and lower the birthrate if I wanted less people to be born. So I think it may be means of depopulation and making people feel isolated and hopeless to have proper good relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 04:33 PM
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For men, sex is like pizza. When it's good, it's really good. When it's bad, it's still pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 02:41 PM
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I'm so glad to hear you've had positive experiences :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:04 PM
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I'm in middle of a recovery process. I was sexually abused by my parents as a kid. Since I started eating my meds again my libido has actually risen because without my meds I'm constantly too anxious, depressed and dissociated to even want sex at all (I went without any medication for about 3 years). It used to be the other way around but I'm in a particular point in my process where the oldest memories of abuse are surfacing and therefore the levels of anxiety are high. Sexuality is a complex t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 01:00 PM
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I absolutely agree. While women have more options, men have way more room to improve upon themselves. If you manage to hoard enough wealth and power it doesn't matter what you look like. Women don't have this option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:03 PM
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This answer should be on the top of the thread. So many men simply have never experienced this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 12:00 PM
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This. The problem is lack of genuine good human relationships and connection. It only takes 1-2 good human relationships to fix this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:59 AM
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According my physician there's no need as I don't have symptoms of low T. What I do have are antidepressants, 2 personality disorders and a deep need to avoid people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:55 AM
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I'm a man and I disagree. There's porn which you can abuse to systematically kill your sex drive and need to have sex. People cannot compete with porn, especially if you are using drugs on the side. I have zero physical interest in women if I watch porn regularly. Yeah it doesn't fulfil the emotional aspect of things but it does take care of the physical aspect. Once I've jerked off I can actually be productive and interested in things that actually matter such as my own projects and work. On th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:47 AM
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I am new. I must admit I am disappointed about incels being banned as I sympathize with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 08:26 AM
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So in other words, are you saying that the men that are available to these women are not good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 07:44 AM
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Sorry english is not my first language. I literally meant that this is a place where to the two sides collide e: meet . I've seen and read so much shit that anything that isn't a full blown massacre is a win in my book. Mutual agreement isn't important, being respectful and trying to increase your own understanding by occasionally stepping into the other gender's shoes is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 08:10 PM
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Thank you /u/AutoModerator for your hard work. Are you single btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:39 PM
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OH shit E: They are not sleeping guys
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:37 PM
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We need more drama! Let me find some incel content real quick
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 01:32 PM
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I agree that it is unhealthy. In general society favors socipathy/psychopathy as long as the person can mask it appropriately. The fact is that there is some scientific evidence supporting the claim that women are sexually (subconsciously) attracted to psychopathic/sociopathic traits. Researchers have theorized that this is most likely due to evolutionary reasons and biologically it makes a lot of sense. I quote: ""Evolutionary psychology can possibly explain this phenomenon. Women evolved to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 02:57 PM
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This thread is fantastic. I'm a man and I think women are in general more practical and socially adept. Shows here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 04:57 AM
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I mean, dick is free.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/12/19 07:11 PM
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"someone who is all mine" I puked. So messed up. Children are not your property, they are individuals. And you need a family unit to raise one well. Is it really that there are no average, decent men for this woman to raise a family with?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/11/19 02:47 PM
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Ugo?
/r/TheRedPill07/05/19 03:18 PM
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Stupid question. Is it bad sign that women that I have casual sex with me always seem to want to lock me down? Am I being seen as a beta? I feel like I have to trick women into thinking I want something long term when I don't.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/19 07:19 PM
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This cracked me up, thanks sir. That slogan has come to perfectly represent the carefree, irresponsible lifestyle these women lead on, gives me a chuckle as it is somehow ironic.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/19 11:11 AM
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As a mentally ill, insecure, beta male loser (wip) here are my thoughts: ​ This is purely on my own experience. Psychologically, our relationships with the opposite sex stem from our relationship with our own mother, as this can seen as the 'blueprint' for all future relationships. I've had similar experiences as you have, where I would have had an opportunity to have sex with the opposite sex but have felt uncomfortable/anxious/afraid to take it. My mother used to slap me in the back of my head…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/19 12:51 PM
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Do any of them ever ask themselves the question "what do I have to offer in a long term relationship?" Do women just assume men want to be in a ltr with them for no reason?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/19 06:40 AM
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I don't want to bash her but she looks like she has mental issues, like most of these women seem to had. The whole thing is sad, most of them were raised by single mothers, were abused and on the cycle goes... :/ I wish more people would focus on healing
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/19 04:50 AM
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I disagree. Truth has nothing to do with perception and everything to do with facts. Truth is that which is in accordance with facts and reality. You either realize the truth or you don't.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/19 03:10 PM
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The original post is so fake though, so baity
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/02/19 06:54 AM
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She is fine with you having one night stands? She's a fucking idiot.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 11:17 AM
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Did you pay for her`?
/r/MGTOW07/02/19 03:35 PM
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Im on nofap. Ive found porn to be harmful for me. Still I have zero desire to have sex atm.
/r/MGTOW07/02/19 08:40 AM
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MOst of them are telling him to run tbh
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 10:11 AM
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MGTOW isn't a solution to mental health issues this man is clearly suffering from. He needs help, upliftment and encouragement. Also, it's weird to "go mgtow" until you've actually had experience with women, because then you don't differ from the fox who thought the grapes were sour when he couldn't get them. This dude is young and depressed. Being ugly isn't the problem, being depressed is. ​
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 09:44 AM
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Awesome. I'm gonna be so openly emotional and juvenile they leave me the fuck alone.
/r/MGTOW05/02/19 05:27 AM
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Theres some face on her makeup
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 04:11 PM
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The Best way to stay safe is to follow their advice and be yourself. I let my insecurities and mental illness show and man it works well.
/r/MGTOW04/02/19 04:07 PM
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Hating women for this is pointless. Men need to stop doing this to themselves.
/r/MGTOW31/01/19 08:46 AM
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Sorry Im out of the loop. What is this about?
/r/MGTOW28/01/19 06:48 AM
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Wow this is a fantastic analogy
/r/MGTOW18/01/19 06:40 PM
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Pardon my ignorance, but when was this?
/r/MGTOW18/01/19 06:30 PM
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I wish somebody made a parody of that commercial with gender roles reversed
/r/MGTOW17/01/19 07:31 AM
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Id love to hear womans definition of that
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 03:45 PM
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Thats hilarious
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 08:51 AM
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Somebody tweet this pic at gillette
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 07:15 AM
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But then he couldnt have taken this great picture
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 07:09 AM
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Im not sure I get the joke. He got cucked?
/r/MGTOW15/01/19 05:30 AM
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Everyone has anger. It is a Basic human emotion. You feel angry when somebody breaks your boundaries and mistreats you, right? I have been mistreated my whole life, so the anger is there. By accepting it, letting it Flow it becomes my power and a healthy shield that protects the vulnerable parts of myself. Like normal healthy people have. Itwasnt safe for me to feel or express anger whenI was abused so I was forced to suppress it and project it onto myself (as children internalize their experien…
/r/MGTOW10/01/19 08:59 PM
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I wish my parents had divorced, rather than us children being used to keep the marriage together.
/r/MGTOW10/01/19 06:13 AM
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I crossposted this on /r/feminism and got banned immediately 😂
/r/MGTOW10/01/19 06:03 AM
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It's always funny to me when people perpetuate this myth that forgiveness somehow magically heals you. Forgiveness is in my opinion, the last and optional step in a very long healing process. Let's assume someone rapes and molests you, you being a child. You're traumatized and this event will set the course for your life. It will absolutely destroy and you will continue to live through the emotional consequences for the rest of your life. After a long therapeutic process you will slowly start to…
/r/MGTOW10/01/19 03:59 AM
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Man I love this ​ Also I'm triggered /s
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 12:13 PM
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No I don't. See it is a process. First I needed to deconvert from Christianity because I experienced myself as a sinful being and was afraid that I would go to hell. Second, I needed to see my mother truthfully through all the manipulation she put me through, this has taken me 9 years of therapy work because she made me internalize all the hatred she subjected onto me. Basically I blamed myself for everything and continued the abuse my parents put me through because I didn't know any better. Thi…
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 10:18 AM
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Keep on grinding and you'll figure it out! These things take time
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 09:21 AM
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Wow thanks for posting this. I feel like this was needed. I feel embarrassed to admit that I do get some sort of pleasure reading posts here about women revealing their true nature on socal media etc. Quite frankly it's feeding an unhealthy addiction. Personally I recognize that this pleasure I feel comes from my own unresolved anger towards my own manipulative mother and subsequently towards all women that manipulated and used me. I feel like this is unhealthy and it is fruitlessly feeding my a…
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 09:11 AM
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What does ROI mean?
/r/MGTOW08/01/19 06:34 AM
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No I don't. Its not worth a post really. My Mothers a narcissist who emotionally abused me and my siblings. In by birth certificate it says she had genital herpes. She lied to my dad that she had gotten it from him via oral (lol!). My dad is a devout Christian who also abused us, by projecting everything he hated about my mother onto us children. My parents were absolutely miserable together and hate each other, but neither of them admit it. My dad is in absolute denial about my Mother. I was th…
/r/MGTOW06/01/19 12:07 AM
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This is basically my mother. Fucked around her whole youth and did drugs. She had a great fiancé whom she cheated on with multiple men. Became a Christian after her fiancé left her and found my beta virgin father. Fucking slut, hope she burns in hell.
/r/MGTOW05/01/19 06:00 PM
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How so?
/r/MGTOW03/01/19 10:13 AM
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I almost hooked up with my best friends ex that he was still deeply in love with. I did the right thing and killed two birds with one stone by sticking to the code not ruining our friendship and also exposing her, giving my friend a big dose of the red pill so that he can finally get over her. Thank you for this. You did the right thing. Thinking this over more carefully, I don't think I could do this to other men. I just wish these fucking sluts would get exposed and these simps would leave the…
/r/MGTOW21/12/18 08:26 AM
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