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| 0 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityAh I see, so what I said doesn’t matter - as long as you’re able to find a way to interpret it into sexism then I’m the one in the wrong (: Not very strong logic | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 05:23 PM |
| -1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityAre you even able to speak without insulting someone? It’s kind of weak You’re again making things up. I never said people were being sexist to me in this thread. Feel free to find any quote proving otherwise | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 05:21 PM |
| 0 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityI have no idea what a “cronie” is but here are examples of the sexism I go through: Being sexually harassed on the street by men Being told I’m undeserving of my academic accomplishments because I “only got them from being a woman” Being pressured away from STEM subjects due to my gender Being threatened of rape because of my gender Being unable to wear certain clothes without being catcalled or called a slut Having to worry about dates potentially drugging me and raping me Need I go on? | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityThis is the least intelligent comment I’ve come across so far, unfortunately. You can throw every insult you want at me, I’ve been called worse - I don’t care. You’re committing what’s called a “straw-man fallacy” where you purposefully misrepresent my position to make me look unfavourable. I never said anyone was sexist for disagreeing with me. I called behaviours which marginalise women and harm men simply for being born as their gender sexist. Which it is. If you can’t accept that, I can’t he… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 04:48 PM |
| 0 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityThe person I was reply to in the above comment was not stopping at feminism. I already said this, I can’t tell you any other way I never said the believe was objectively true, I said it was a fact that I believed in it which is completely true. I made a prediction that this thread would be an echo chamber of sexism and it exactly was. Your logic is that you can’t predict KKK members of being racist due to them being in the KKK. Of course I’m not going to persecute people for being in mens rights… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityFeminism is already a word for equality. It’s called such because women are the underprivileged party in society. That doesn’t mean men can’t have issues covered by it. It has gotten a bad name recently due to extremists but I’m not going to change my own standings because of extremists. They are in the wrong and we agree they are in the wrong, so why change what I call myself when they are the ones who are not upholding feminist ideology of equality? | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityI feel a little out of my depth talking about specifically American politics and media so I don’t think I can contribute much but I don’t think the issue is as big as it’s made out to be. It’s played so often in the media for sensationalism which will always inherently favour extremist views (favour as in coverage, not political standing) Your 2nd paragraph is wrong though. The patriarchy is still a thing and is also harms men. Worn out example: the draft only includes men because they view wome… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityYou hear so much about radical feminism in the news because of sensationalism and America (where I’m assuming you come from) is a prime example of this. This inflates your understanding of how common it is. It’s out there but it’s not nearly as prevalent as you believe | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:19 PM |
| -1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityFeminism is not pro male or female. It is pro equality. It always has been. Some people like to call themselves feminist yet go against, but they are not representatives of the overall feminist community. Claiming such is just bias We amplify female issues because they are still very large issues that aren’t being taken seriously. If these issues were fixed then we would move onto more sexist issues. Just because men aren’t being given the spotlight doesn’t mean it’s sexist The thing you don’t s… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityIn what way are radical feminists “taking over”? I don’t see any laws being passed to discriminate against men, or hate crimes men? | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityI don’t care what they call themselves, they’re wrong in their views and we agree they’re wrong. But the people in this comment section seem to believe every feminist is like this which hurts both men and women because feminism is fighting the patriarchy which harms men too. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:08 PM |
| 0 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityThe reason I am here is because I noticed sexism. I don’t care where sexism comes from or who it is against, I will always fight against it. Claiming I should just let sexism slide because there’s more sexism somewhere else is ridiculous. I believe men do experience sexism, but what you seem to think is that all sexism against men is caused by, or protected by, feminists. This is not true. Feminism is fighting the patriarchy to make equality, which includes the harm it does to men too. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityYou act like it’s common knowledge that not all feminists or women are like this, whereas the person I literally reply to in the above comment thinks otherwise. I’m glad you agree that this is not a representation of the overall feminist community but obviously there are people in this very thread who don’t agree with you. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityPlease show me any example of where my actions have not reflected my view on equality. I’d love to see it | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityPlease find any source which proves over 50% of women hate men | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 12:53 PM |
| -1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityDid you actually read those studies? They are saying that girls were achieving higher marks on the same quality of work due to girls being more likely to be less disruption during class, more attentive in class and spend more time doing their homework. Teachers should mark objectively, but you’re implying that girls are being marked higher simply for being girls. They’re not. They’re being marked higher on average because, on average, they are better students out-with tests. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 12:52 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityFemale genital mutilation is already a thing you understand that right? And the reason women aren’t involved in the draft is because we are seen as too weak to fight with men. This is already sexist And the draft is a very worn out argument. When was the last time you or your friends or your friends friends or anyone at all in your life been sent off to a draft? Claiming women are privileged because we aren’t considered as strong as men is more ignorance. All you’re doing is stating “these thing… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 12:45 PM |
| 0 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityThe issue is people aren’t stopping at feminists. I’ve already had a conversation with another person in this thread who believed all women were sexist because he had individually had a bad experience with women. Clearly there are in fact people who believe the extremists represent all women. I stated a fact that I believe most mens rights groups are an echo chamber for sexism and this comment thread has already proved that to be true. So many of the comments here aren’t about fighting against s… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 12:38 PM |
| 0 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityWhile accusing someone of rape is absolutely wrong and should be punished, this issue has been over exaggerated. If someone were to simply scream rape after being accused of sexual assault she would more than likely be seen as insane. Of course you see these outrageous things in the news a lot which makes it seem more common but statistically speaking it’s extremely unlikely to be falsely accused of rape. I do believe men have to experience sexism too which is an issue we tackle in feminism, I d… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 12:27 PM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityI can only tell you the truth. They are definitionally not upholding feminist ideology. That is all I’ve ever said and it is correct. I’m not trying to revoke their feminist pass or something, I’m telling you exactly what they are. They are extremists who do not share the popular view amount feminists. You only see them so much because they are outlier and gain lots of attention for having an outrageous belief system Same thing as looking at Muslim terrorists and attributing it to all Muslims. T… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 11:51 AM |
| -1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityYou seem to have the view that feminism is only fighting for women. It’s not. It’s fighting against all sexism to make men and women equal - this covers sexism against women and against men. If the extremists like to call themselves feminists then they can do so but they are definitionally not upholding feminists ideology. You can argue ‘no true Scotsman’ if you like but these radical feminists are called radical for a reason. They’re not fighting for equality they’re fighting for matriarchy so … | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 11:48 AM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realitySaying <1% is just a way of saying it’s a very small population. It’s not meant to be a statically valid percentage. I don’t even know how you’d extract data on the population radical feminists I never said everyone here is sexist, but I would wager a bet that the majority of this community is, considering all I’ve been saying is “feminism good, equality good, sexism bad” and I’ve been met with outrage from the community. I think my original comment reached some 42 downvotes so clearly this sub … | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 11:34 AM |
| 0 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityI’m sorry I genuinely don’t understand what you’re trying to say. Can you reword it another way maybe? | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:35 AM |
| -2 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityThis is false. Only the extremists want a matriarchy. You have either seen far too much sensationalised radicalism and now attribute that to the whole population of feminists, or you are so used to having a bias in your favour that you view not having that bias as a personal disadvantage And there is not a single country on the planet where women have more rights than men. Please tell me anywhere in the world this is true | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:33 AM |
| -5 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityIt doesn’t matter what they choose to call themselves. I’m stating a fact. If you don’t like it, I can’t do anything to make you accept it Feminism is about equality. Equality is being equal. These people were not trying to treat people equally. They were therefore not upholding feminist ideology. It’s as simple as that. I’m not going to pretend I know what these organisations are to have a full picture, but if they’re doing that then they are wrong. No idea what more you want from me | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityWho is holding you to any of this? No one is persecuting you for being part of a statistic what are you talking about? You’re saying I’m not qualified to speak for these people because I don’t know their lives. Several problems with this argument. Firstly, I’m not trying to, what I’m doing is using your own logic in another situation and you had an adverse reaction to it, showing your own logic is flawed. Secondly, I am a student actually so I do know what it’s like. And I am white so I also kno… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:26 AM |
| -2 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityYes the most vocal are often the extremists because they gain the most attention due to sensationalism as I’ve already explained. If she believes more men should be killed by covid she is an extremist. This is not upholding feminist views as feminism is a movement to equalise men and women. Wanting to kill men is not equalising, it’s radicalism. This is the same logic as called Muslims terrorists because the most vocal Muslims are extremists. Radicalism attracts attention so obviously the most v… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 01:18 AM |
| -3 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityI’m pretty sure she’s an extremist. Why would I want to read a book by an extremist? What does that have to do with the overall goal of feminism or baselessly judging half the human population for being the same gender as someone you don’t like? | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 12:58 AM |
| -6 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityWe never hear No, YOU never hear feminists calling out sexism against men because you only look at the extremists against your view because of sensationalism. It’s out there if you were actually active in progressive communities instead of stuck being outraged by extremists and attributing it to half the human population. And the number of accounts of sexism against men is far far lower than that of women. I’m not saying this to belittle sexism against men, but the reason you don’t see as much o… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 12:37 AM |
| 0 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityIf one then all. Oh so I take it every German is a nazi, every man is a rapist, every student is a school shooter and every white person is a KKK member then? | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 12:26 AM |
| -27 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityThe point of feminism is creating equality. If these people were willingly ignoring victims of sexual assault then they are not upholding feminists views. They may call themselves that but it is directly against what feminism was built for It’s supposed to be equality, not a matriarchy | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 12:24 AM |
| -3 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityI feel like you’ve misunderstood the comment I replied to. The <1% of extremists I mentioned aren’t women abusing their male spouses, it’s <1% of radical feminists who say men who aren’t married are incels And I don’t see how men are being Both men and women go through hell when getting a divorce, stop acting like all women do is marry men and abuse them. First of all, more often it’s the other way around, and second, that’s not all women. That is a select handful of people that we absolutely sh… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 12:22 AM |
| -18 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityYour silence was consent. You never spoke back to them. And how do you know exactly what I was doing against radical extremists? Yeah you don’t. You’re, once again, attributing the actions of a few onto an entire group of people. I don’t think you understand how individualism works. I speak out against all sexism, I don’t care if it favours men or women - it’s all wrong Utter bullshit. I had a bad patch, and cried openly. Men were incredibly supportive, women stopped talking to me, wouldn't even… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 11:59 PM |
| -42 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityYou act like the average feminist wants men to commit suicide and wants the patriarchy to be a matriarchy. All you’re proving is that you’ve never talked to feminists. All you’ve done is watch radical extremists get their opinion voiced over social media because it outrages people, and it should outrage people, but you’re attributing the acts of these extremists to every woman and every feminist. I have no clue what a ‘kangaroo court’ is, I’m not American. Male suicide stems quite heavily from t… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 11:34 PM |
| -22 | Some feminists have an alternate view of realityThis seems like it’s going to be an echo chamber of sexism but I’ll ask anyway Do you actually think feminists believe this? This kind of stupidity only comes from the <1% of extremists, it’s not a representation of all women or even all feminists so please don’t make it out to be such. It’s only perpetuating more sexism | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 10:10 PM |
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