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I don't fully agree with this. I think sometimes what they offer is just not what people want I think they didn't truly appeal to both people but you should try and do if you're making consumable art. We came out for Wonder woman we came out for kill Bill, I mean we actually came out for the movies that did bad but it just didn't broadly appeal to more men and women. Again I made this joke before and another string I'm like see how good magic Mike or fifty shades would have done if they chose a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:26 PM
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And if we want to go older we can put in Buffy, angel, friends. If we go newer then you have p valley, insecure, euphoria. Reminded me of the movie challengers. Then let's not talk about how Korean men are basically objectified now lol come on now
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:21 PM
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Whattttt ? Magic Mike, 50 shades of grey, twilight,coyote ugly, I mean thor to a certain extent , 365 days. And then you have shows on HBO and regular TV but you're way more over Then you have books and their troupe.. "This man was chaotic with some good in him with a whole bunch of muscles The other guy was really good but he had a slight dark side with a whole bunch of muscles these men muscled so much but they muscle just for me" 😂 Not considering as a rough estimate I think about 90 to 95% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:12 PM
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😂 supernatural is so good. We just don't talk about the last season or two
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:28 PM
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I've seen men get beat up by women The cops get called and then the Man gets sent to jail
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:01 PM
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Couple things here but I would say on a different note but kind of related if for some reason you guys lost your house Do you think your husband would get more grief or you? No granted Man could just walk away from your pregnancy but they still get a penalty of up to imprisonment if they do and don't help you financially. Not to be nitpicky but I kind of feel like these are good points but doesn't really defeat my thought process of its accounted for and another way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:52 AM
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Can you be more specific on the thoughtfulness style and communications? I think women judge us on how we might be unthoughtful every once in awhile to them but they think that they're more thoughtful. I like what this one comedian said. Doesn't it just sound like a bad day if your wife chooses to just try to make you Happy? I left every gift that I ever received from a partner that I can tell you there's a definite gap between what they think makes me happy and what would actually make me happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:46 AM
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Actually I travel to different countries all the time and I can say parenting now is probably easier than almost any other point in time with the advent of technology information and all other things.the trade-off aspect comes to if women are more likely to be the home managers and men are more likely to be the primary bread winner Is it really that the standards are lower for men or that they're just different. And even within the category of just women you pretty much have to make sure your ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:45 AM
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Yeah. I agree with all of it mostly. And I want that to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:57 PM
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I can honestly say with being truly neutral that truly helpful advice has not been something women or men have been held to a standard to adhere. Often when we talk to each other it's with the hope that you can be reflective of behavior If someone didn't know something then they didn't know but if they had all the information in the world to make a better or more cautious decision then they should have
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:20 AM
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I just saw this and I want to say men literally beat the crap out of each other lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:53 PM
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That wasn't the point of the stat is that when you are in the act of doing something you should be punished for it regardless of your gender. Speeding is speeding and you can't accurately say one group is less likely to do something if you don't arrest them when they do. None of my post was anything to do with red pill or manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:46 PM
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It's completely discounts a huge chunk of things I love women in this feed were saying That would be like saying if you're being abused by someone you have no right to defend yourself with murdering the abuser. So it's either your point of view is you can never disproportionately defend yourself against an abuser. Or you're saying that only men can't disproportionately defend themselves against their female abusers. So either you justify a man escalating to defend himself or you don't justify wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:39 PM
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Never said that at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:34 PM
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You're a kind of saying that a man should be a perfect victim in all situations. That's where the discrimination comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:33 PM
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Here's the thing what you're saying doesn't really make sense as far as logic goes. If you hit someone and they choose to escalate that's completely within the rights it should even be more impactful to say that women should stop hitting men if they don't want to experience violence that would be the biggest drop in non-mutual domestic violence cases by far
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:32 PM
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I don't have to pick one of anything. They are both My overall sentence is women are not as innocent. And as a byproduct of that women are actually more violent still not more violent compared to men but more violent than The stats say they are. The secondarily the stats are affected by that partially because one they don't receive as much harsh punishment and second they might not be arrested at all. It's all one coherent framework of a statement You are allowed to approach all of it or just on…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:09 PM
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I mean there's a whole bunch of cascading things that can result to that The women are less likely to be arrested then they're less likely to have previous convictions. Someone with a shorter sentence would have better time reintegrating into society. Do you see it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:39 PM
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Are you saying that no rape victim should not be taken as seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:36 PM
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Yes that's the point of the whole post. That's why I gave violent and nonviolent examples
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:30 PM
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No it's actually a point I wanted to make. Considering that you have to go to the 1820s as some of your examples is pretty telling but even historically with the injustice of things women still would not go to prison or die for some of the crazy stuff they have done. I think the issue is that the Justice system looks through things from the lens of the patriarchy. And because a lot of crimes are male coded women kind of slept by a little bit. But like I said in the post women are the fastest gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:29 PM
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Here's a couple things. I think your assumption is that I'm against defending yourself which I'm not I didn't even say any of that in the post In fact I don't even think women and men are equally violent or criminal. The second thing is I feel like you're not seeing the distinction between premeditated murder and heat of the moment murder or someone's about to kill your kid yeah you should kill them. That's not usually the situations that women who Go to prison for killing their abusive exes go …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:25 PM
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No they're situationally different and they should both get the same penalty. I would say someone who schizophrenic is probably more likely to be more violent than someone who kills for money maybe. They both should be in jail. Only thing I can give a caveat to is accidental.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:21 PM
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No one says that they are. Where you're saying that they're not innocent as they come off to be. But also statistically it is already proven that women get less penalty for the same crime
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:20 PM
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that range is too wide to take as valid truth in addition to that there is a empirical difference between premeditation and heat of the moment. Do you have the right to defend yourself in the heat of the moment absolutely and in all situations My point is premeditation is a whole different category of thing that there's almost no defense for That's why you can defend your store in the heat of the moment but you can't shoot someone in the back as they're running away
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:19 PM
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It's already been studied and it's objectively true women do get less sentencing for the same crimes and women are less likely to be arrested for the same crimes etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:13 PM
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I don't think women are more violent either but you have to admit that they're just not accounted for as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:12 PM
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There are no huge chunk of crimes There's no statistics on that at all that I can find That justifies that a huge chunk of killing abuser crimes is based off heat of the moment versus premeditation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:11 PM
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That's a whole lot of mental gymnastics to justify murder. And considering. That there's actually no statistics to support if people go to jail for premeditated murder versus in the moment I can't really dispute that but also you can't make that claim wholeheartedly. Murder is murder just like how speeding to take someone to the hospital and speeding for joy are two different things but they're still speeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:10 PM
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In fact I did not disregard it The main post is talking about stats. And she twisted herself comparing murder to abuse. You have to do apples to apples
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 05:00 PM
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Well that's part of my thesis is that a lot of violent crimes aren't accounted for accurately because women just get away with it less. My point is the stats are skewed Not that the stats are not reflecting what they researched. The second thing is your flaw is your comparing murderers to abusers. Wouldn't be the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:59 PM

I can see how it can be painful for some but I think there's some naivety to it. The fact is a man who likes you and a man who's your friend are going to hopefully show you similar qualities but if a man is doing more for you than you are doing for them You kind of have this and they might like you and at least approach that earlier on. I've been a situations where I have specifically told my female friends to not let men do a lot for you until you've confirmed they're doing it for truly friendl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 10:23 PM
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Actually the way you phrased it was probably appropriate It's a good question. Like how do you dismantle someone's terrible thought process without questioning them on it? Even in coaching at work they'll be like hey you probably shouldn't have done that This was probably a better method. Or they ask help me to understand even though this is usually the case why did you think this was the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:20 PM
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Cancer's a strange example to pick, because it actually proves my point. You get warned about smoking and sun exposure before, on the box, at every checkup. During treatment they tell you what caused it.And after you survive, they tell you to be careful so it doesn't come back. So there's a version of cancer that's pure bad luck, and a version that came with a decade of warnings. Which is exactly what I'm saying about people. You picked the one example that has both
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:51 PM
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Cancer is not sentient. Men/women with terrible histories are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:30 PM
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Nope you can complain all you want It's a free country You could be mocked for complaining lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:23 AM
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You can absolutely complain about anything you want. Getting into a relationship with those things is a whole different thing lol. Let's stay on track here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:24 AM
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I guess in general having high standards and dating above your social level is fine If you want today abusive men I guess that's on you too but I think where I probably would draw the line is lying about it or seeking empathy when you start to feel the detractors of each, If you want to date above your social class then you yourself must have to work for that a man that has higher social level probably is more likely to cheat or drop you once you become inconvenient, having high standards is fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:32 PM
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I don't know what point you're trying to make. Can you rephrase it so it's coherent
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:25 PM
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If you think you're in love when they treat you bad then you're not in love you are insatuated. I've been in love before and I have fallen out of love when treated badly if you cannot leave someone with nature treat you badly then that's nearly a fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:32 PM
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The spark is just attraction. You're not in love. It's essentially what I recall that pre-nut clarity. Essentially the same mechanism that makes men do stupid stuff when they're horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:23 PM
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Yes I used to be friends with some of those jerks. There's no way in hell it should work and I would be very surprised when it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:21 PM
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I don't know I hear what you're saying but being attracted to someone doesn't mean you should be in a relationship with them despite all their other flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:14 PM
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It doesn't have to be that intentions it could be ego or misguided intentions. No one goes into gambling with bad intentions they hope they win they know it can be bad but they think they are luckier than anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:53 PM
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I hear you. I think the issue is this a cheater is a cheater there's no debating it that's the end of the road. But a person who dates a known cheater feels like there's nothing that could have done to avoid being cheated on. Out of the friends I did have who cheated I never had to convince them that they did not cheat But the friends who are women who have been treated on I swear it was a surprise and that there's nothing wrong with them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:40 PM
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That does not make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:35 PM
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Because unless you tell people that they're better involves them being better then they won't get it. You can't be doing the same things and making the same choices and hoping for a different outcome.. I'm happy that we can agree that people with children don't get any relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:23 PM
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I can concede that sometimes little things are not big things but sometimes big things are not small. For example a specific example and it's not all encompassing. I had a friend who fell in love with a recent divorcee who told her up front he does not want a relationship and he just wants to have sex and focus on work and his kid. I told her that man is being upfront with you. Either going there knowingly what he wants or step away. She got upset when he broke things off because she wanted more…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:21 PM
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No no one deserves to be heartbroken even if they deal with a heartbreaker. No one wants that. But they absolutely work hard and made all the right decisions to get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:17 PM
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Oh I'm definitely been treated by someone before. Both men and women I don't know any That would make me want to go through it again.. at the very least I would find new traumas. When you fall from the same thing over and over. I wouldn't be like wow this woman like crap just like my ass. Well better go ahead and attach myself to it. Theoretically is it possible that we are to forgiving of this behavior and that's why people keep on falling for it? Like maybe if we told our friends you've been t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:15 PM
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I think it's kind of multifaceted one I think it's a kind of a rejection when someone is looking for sympathy and also to induce reflection. To be fair If a dude came out to me and said he got robbed from a prostitute in Colombia I would absolutely say They should have known better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:58 PM
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It's hilarious people cuz my friend pretty much said the same thing. It's like they almost find it funny. And I've told him like just don't tell me anything else I am no longer taking interest in your love life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:48 PM
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I think that's a mostly fair thing to say. But I also think that predators be manipulative is too much of a cop out. It's like when some people say they were manipulated by red pillars. And I'm like how did someone manipulate you by treating you like s***. That don't make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:45 PM
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I mean that's kind of the scenario we're talking about is like if there was nothing else but red flags how can you truly have been deceived. But I think for me I still say it because even though some women have all the red flags when they're hurt they start the kind of go into why did this happen to me type mode. Then you kind of have to remind them because this is what you gambled with. However my friends who have been in relationships where it was truly a surprise I have nothing but straight e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:36 PM
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I think and I'll try to be fair about this. I think the reason why men jump to the conclusion of the woman should have chose better is that in our personal lives most of the experiences are women who have the information and got hurt by it. I have met More women who have been hurt by known abusive men and even warned not to date them then by women who were with a nice guy and he spontaneously became abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:32 PM
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I would beg to differ. I've avoided relationships is based off what I've learned about them before we got serious. But yes that's why I put the difference between being surprised and gambling. If you honestly didn't know that the person you're dating had domestic violence charges then you were deceived. If there were rumors or he acted very aggressive with you earlier on then you should have chose better
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:30 PM
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I actually wanted to post it to both women and men but the mods told me I have to do it specifically for women.. in your cancer analogy I would definitely advise to both men and women that they shouldn't smoke cigarettes. They're going back to my topic Men and women who date known cheaters are dumbasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:29 PM
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This is something that needs to be talked about more no one is more confident in their actions than a bad mother who makes terrible decisions. It's almost habitual
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:26 PM
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I agree. I find that when women get heartbroken from some men they always say are kind of have the attitude of I didn't deserve this or why me. When the why me is right there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:24 PM
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Yeah I hear you. I think there's some logic to that of being given advice I want to look for it but I find often that that advice falls on deaf ears. I mean it's kind of a meme at this point about the male best friend to a woman when she calls and he and me we start saying " I told you so" instead of giving console. To be fair I think about 80% of my female friends heart race could have been avoided if they just would listen to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:24 PM
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I hear what you're saying but is there any caveats for the fact that there are obvious warnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:22 PM
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I don't agree with the analogy but I understand what you're saying. But considering that there are multiple studies and warnings on the box then yeah it is kind of your fault And it shouldn't be a surprise especially if you're smoking like five or six packs a day
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:21 PM
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I think it's fine for women to have attraction to specific types of people. I think however the whole action of attaching morals to attraction is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:42 PM

Yeah right. Next thing you're going to tell me is female orgasms exist. Get real
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:06 AM

Things haven't been the same since the day I found out women poop. It was all downhill from there. Worst 25th birthday ever
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:44 AM
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That she wasn't the bodily autonomy per say it was never at risk. But the respective by the autonomy. Is like I said that no one's obligated to anyone's body yet the women in the original post felt like I was wrong not to help
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:07 AM
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Sounds like a lot of of men feel validated I lose behavior. I see it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:38 AM
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Here's my issue: most of the gaps you're listing are single digits. 8.4 vs 9.7. 69 vs 77. You're presenting each one like it's a canyon, but they're margins,and a margin treated as a chasm is the exact thing I posted about. Moving isn't once-in-a-lifetime either. Renters move every year or two on average. Framing it as a rare event assumes a stability a lot of people don't have. which might be worth noticing. And factually: women serve less time than men for the same crime, and are less likely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:22 AM
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There's no benefit for me in being a victim of this, nor do I claim to be one. What I do see is hypocrisy. What you're saying is that we don't see it as a problem because it's not a problem for women typically and I acknowledge that, which you agreed with too. My question is: is that healthy? That's actually what I asked and mentioned toward the end of it. But I see you don't want to approach it, because it either has you expose your bias, relinquish your bias, or worse,answer the question. So p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:02 AM
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I didn't say it was trampled again I mentioned that multiple times I'm just saying it's not respected. I don't know why everyone is saying that I'm equating things I kind of made sure to write specifically that things are different That was like the main point and yet all the women maybe except two on this feed have understood that but all the men who have responded have greatly understood what I'm saying It kind of doing this on purpose I feel
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:52 PM
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Thanks for clearing finding your appointment actually and talk about this on a different response The issue wasn't what she asked per se the issue is the attitude from her and the people on that specific post. The part about body autonomy that usually goes with it when people discuss it is how traditionally when men are not okay with them not you getting sex after they feel like they're entitled to it is their attitude. So I was correlating the fact that it's really weird that the group that onc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:17 PM
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You're arguing against "these are the same thing." I never said that. Same category, not same severity. And my actual point wasn't even about the act, it was about the attitude. The same people who treat bodily autonomy as sacred dropped it the moment I invoked it for myself. That inconsistency is the argument. Not the size of any single instance. On the anti-vaxxers: they weren't wrong that it's their body. We override them anyway, and we're honest about why. the provax position is that individ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:00 PM
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I truly don't know what you're talking about and I mean that not in a dismissive way but like what are you saying. What are you actually disagreeing with
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:35 PM
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No actually this is where I think you're critically wrong and maybe you're not reading what I wrote well. I said specifically that because of the gender differences we do not experience the same things. That's not online thinking that's critical thinking. In addition to that I didn't say I was violated I said that no one is obligated to anyone's labor or physical body. In addition to that the attitude is what's weird. I'm starting to wonder if you're debating someone else on it different post an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:20 PM
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I think you remember mostly correctly. But yes I do say in the comments even with that that no matter what no one's obligated to any of your labor or body regardless of your reasons I know should always be a no and a reaction to it is telling. Now people from the church community are your community they are almost friends
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:14 PM
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No don't see myself doing that. I don't ask women I barely talk to for favors. And if I heard That a woman said no to a guy she barely knows when he ask her for example to make him soup while he's sick I would not shame her for not doing a nice thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:12 PM
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I know that comes off as a disc but I don't know if you actually have enough experience with women to really say that so broadly. You can go out with women or they can come over to your house or you go over there. I don't know what point you're trying to make really. Are you saying all men have to work hard for it no maybe most men. Are you saying that women don't have to try? Maybe not most willing but a lot do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:55 PM
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Oh I'm not complaining about that. I'm being out of contrarian to your statement that women go on dates for relationships. Women can go on dates for a lot of different reasons Free food, sex or relationships or just a waste your time There's not one reason
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:51 PM
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Nope sparsely dating we only went on two dates and they pretty much ghosted after that which is fine and randomly after some time wanted me to help them move
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:49 PM
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Women will 100% want a date before having sex just so they don't feel guilty.- a guy who has sex after dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:48 PM
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Yes the literal treatment of the word not the meaning that only validates one side. And considering that even within main liberal frameworks coercion of sex or how one show has put it " the implication" is still a taboo thing then yeah The other guys definition is the definition in the correct one as well even within other groups. You have the empirical freedom to criticize someone who doesn't want to give you sex or labor but doing so for either still morally makes you a jerk
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:46 PM
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I think you're not accounting for certain things I'm rightfully saying that within the same category One group of people might experience more things than the other. So assault for me is not as prevalent as assault for women. But there are other things as a man that are more prevalent for me that I feel should be taking seriously as well. On your volunteer thing there is a couple things there You can include the fact that men work more hours. You can include the fact that men work more physical …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:35 PM
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Then just make a post about it. I really do invite you to do it I'd like to hear from other men as well from their experiences I can tell you that I'll be just sitting here reminding my own business and get a message from a girl when on one date on a year ago asking me for something or be on a dating app where they asked me to help pay a phone bill. Right now it's the moving season I've already been asked twice but we're meant to help the move even though we didn't progress further. Maybe it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:42 PM
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What I want to respond with saying is that no I actually point out specifically that she had no interest in me and that not all situations are the same situations but they are the same category. And even on top of that people did feel she was entitled for it because people were upset that I didn't say yes to her. Regardless of your tire analogy you shouldn't call a person terrible because they wouldn't help you with a tire. Just like people should not be shaming people for having sex with someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:38 PM
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Does context.decide your objective morality when it comes to building bridges between people? How about you just do one further. You're on the same subreddit I am Why don't you just ask men make a post ask men how often they are randomly asked for money resources or other help from women they barely know. You don't have to take my word for it but also I don't think you should be strongly dismissing it so I invite you to post and see what other Men say about their experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:33 PM
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No I said specifically a lot of women would ask me I didn't say that I actively do it. You got to learn to read better lol I'm making good choices over here to the best of my ability and I'm actively saying how I choose not to be taken advantage of and yet you're arguing that I am lol Are you bored?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:22 PM
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So again. Do you agree with the premise of being more empathetic to each other's struggles between the gender or not
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:20 PM
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I mean it's not too far fetch I'm pretty much asking towards the end to have empathy with each other and that my struggles are not your struggles. And most of the women here are saying choose better women. Few of them said that I let her on and then after that said I shouldn't have given time to a woman. So it's not that far-fetched because you can read down this post and see other things lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:12 PM
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Okay now I'm definitely confused lol at what point did I make generalization about women. And how is me saying no to a woman not having standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:47 PM
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I'm getting kind of nitpicky because everyone is focusing on the wrong thing they're telling me that set boundaries even though I did and this is not even the premise of the post so again do you agree or disagree with the premise of the post outside of the framing example
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:30 PM
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I'm 100% down for it I even mention in the post how even though it might not be the same situation or severity all things must be taken equally. Thank you for agreeing This is what I was looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:27 PM
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Lol That was after the second date. Again I didn't really lose anything the premise is actually how I set a boundary What are you even complaining about? I didn't marry her give her money or get her pregnant and a firm boundary will set. This is the way. How do you disagree or agree with the premise of the post golly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:23 PM
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Okay calm down. We don't choose to have people ask us for money. They start full ass conversation faked interest and then ask you for money. Then at that point I promptly disengage just like I did with this lady with the moving. Also do you agree with the premise of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:21 PM
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Oh after I said that boundary she absolutely didn't lok
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:19 PM
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Oh I didn't lol pretty much dead it that link all together 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:19 PM
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Yes. Does happen everyday no. But ask other men in the dating if women ask them for money/ favors
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:18 PM
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Nope. She actually did not want to date me and that's fine She goes to me again that's fine. Why did you assume that I was leading her on sparsely means rarely we would rarely see and talk to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:17 PM
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Why are you assuming I was the one She was the one who did not have interest in me and that was her right. I'm more confused as to why she thought she can ask me to help her move lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:17 PM
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Oh no that was the opposite actually She did not really have interested in me which is totally fine but then asked me to help her with manual labor. We've been on two random dates in between 3 months. She showed no interest no replies back often but then at the nerve for ask me to help her move. And this happens a lot either a woman randomly asked me for money or to buy her dinner or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:14 PM
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Yes! There is no doubt most murders are done by men. But also like my original point this has nothing to do with the actual post. Not only is men who commit murders a very specific slice of all men as well. It has nothing to do with my initial question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:01 PM
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I mean even on this feed there are women who have said there are in cell mass murders and that's more problematic but then when I point out there are more women in any given year who killed their own children then mass murders who are in cell since 2014. They then give excuses or caveats like mental health blah blah blah. So I do think on this one point it is skewed towards being a toxic trait that's more prominent in women is like how overall violence is still more skewed towards men. As far as…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:57 PM
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No not necessarily I do think both people can be capable of do this by see this more skew towards women. I don't think you necessarily have to convince men that bad men exist. The women almost don't believe stuff. Like even someone in this feed was like incel group support killing women which is a very fringe thing yet we'll just dismiss the fact that "kill all men" was a mantra for a while. The main thing here is using the internet alone as a near soul proof of a gender being good or bad is rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:15 AM
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I research something because of the whole conversation There's only been 17 deaths related to incel people since 2014, But 200 to 300 kids die from their mothers per year. In a year maybe 200-300 people die from mass murders So that means mothers killing their kids are actually a bigger threat than in cells in literal mass murders
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:38 PM
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He made me want to research something and here is a crazy thing about 200 or 300 That's occur by a woman killing their kid Only 17 people have died since 2014 related to what they call involuntary celibate base attacks So honestly a woman is more likely to kill her child then a incel to kill anyone. That's actually really sick if you think about it on both sides but considering that women are actually out here are bigger epidemic and more risky to society
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:34 PM
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So again to break down what you have said. You only go to subreddits that make men look bad. But how do you know that women don't do something similar if you don't go on those pages where women are doing equally toxic things? You can easily go to a femcel Page right now and look at what these women are writing. And it's kind of crazy. They are hating on women for being beautiful. They're saying nearly the same thing that incel say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:29 AM
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Ass feminist one of the top things for today is literally the misogyny of male suicide. Other women's pages say why are beautiful women dating ugly men. Multiple women-based pages called that sleeping man and the DoorDash girl crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:04 AM
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We are discussing specifically internet statements and should they act as a summary of men and women equally even more particularly talking about if women use online statements to judgment why don't they also accept criticisms of women based off things online. This has nothing to do with murder specifically your introducting this and then defending your point with saying what the topic is even though what you're saying is not even the topic Do you actually want to participate in the actual argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:00 AM
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Okay let me see if I get this correct terrible people did something terrible and that's fine but the terrible people who did something terrible and had signs of it previously are not fine? It doesn't matter the reason you can't just alleviate someone of doing murder simply because of what you might have perceived or guessed as mental instability. I mean for God's sakes it's babies out of the womb that they're killing This is objectively just a very bad take and hopefully you think about what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:25 AM
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No one is disputing that bad people do bad things All I'm asking is if opinions based off what you see men say is valid is it equally as valid But also: What's up with women killing newborns Marisol Flores (30) – Oxnard, California, USA (2026) Infant: Newborn son Allegation: Charged with murdering her newborn shortly after birth. Prosecutors also charged her in the 2015 death of another infant (25 days old). 0 Yeniffer Tavarez-Cepeda (25) – Reading, Pennsylvania, USA (2026) Infant: Newborn boy…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:17 AM

It's kind of weird though but I get you. It's like I wrote a post about something and they're like men complain a lot just look at this website or the internet I decided to go on some moon centered pages and they are saying some just straight up terrible stuff.. he just got to be consistent. Of men saying crazy stuff on the internet is proof that men have issues then women doing the same thing should be at least the same amount of proof that women have issues
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:31 AM

Most of the things I wrote about is how they need to meet their own
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:12 PM

I think women are absolutely settling for overall below average experience. Think about it this way You got women out here who are dating pretty much their fetishes and dreams. Those dude are cheating or wouldn't cook l after their wife give birth You see tons of stories and friends talk about things like this They thought he was a great guy and then they find out he wasn't. So I don't think women are dating above average men they're just enjoying the above average qualities until below average …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:05 PM

Here's the thing though. The men that do expect more out of women are usually considered unsavory by a lot of women. The men who enable those behaviors are considered very attractive but ultimately treat those women wrong. Women are also enabling the type of men they don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:00 PM

By the way I like the after you put in your response. Enjoyed reading you. But I think the issue here is this kind of twofold. You being able to attract a lot of guys but not the right one that's not the biggest flex you think it is. Prostitutes attract the most type of men but it doesn't mean those men are the best type. There's a lot of women out there who are straight up very attractive but are not finding the men that want and are often choosing the men that work against them. another part o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:58 PM

I'd say what's a insult versus a fair criticism? A lot of the times any criticism can get you called a incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:53 PM

Yet why are men called uncles for having and inflated since of what they deserve for women are pretty much called Queens for it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:52 PM

Actually do pretty fine dating. I think even average and above average guys will have some type of problem with an average or below average women coming for them and saying they are surprise. Women are lovely but often they are not individually above average as far as everything. Me myself I'm average on a lot of things above average on many others below on some things. I would never go through a woman and say I'm deprived honestly what makes you not be doing that to me either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:09 AM

You should actually look at the studies directly and what the person who conducted them actually said. You're a little bit off
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:04 AM
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Accused a measurement of emotional intelligence You cannot have a high EQ if you're not able to self-regulate and motivate well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:31 PM
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And a mixed setting conversation the study was done at workplaces They essentially found that men talk more because they were usually the people leading the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:24 PM
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Are you saying why am I complaining about someone complaining because complaining is normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:24 PM
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I agree I do feel like however that the ability to express and see emotions does not equate to actually being able to regulate. For better or for worse excluding men I don't think it's accurate to say that on a trend women are better at regulation I just think they're better at expressing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:32 PM
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The research shows that girls have better recognition of emotions not regulation of emotions research shows that boys are better at depression. There is no brownie points for being able to be mad visually versus being upset and not showing it at the very least it's toxic in their own unique ways
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:46 PM
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I would say venting without solving a problem is problematic. Have all you know how to do is vents but not actually solve a problem I would say that's more important to than venting less or more
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:36 AM
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No my statement was not meant to be a totality of what is in emotional intelligence just one important aspect of it It's like when saying a chef should know how to cut an onion. That wouldn't be the only thing the chef knows how to do. But yes if you have problems you should be able to learn how to properly communicate with someone especially the person you are with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:59 PM
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I don't know about what women are wearing. But I will say that sports team is just casual conversation. I will say as a counter that I have talked to women who rehash the same stress they're going through with every friend. Like They will literally call every friend they can think of to talk about the same problem and rehash it 10 times every detail. Straight up exhausted
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:57 PM
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Yeah I will agree that I complain less than any of my exes. You're totally right
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:53 PM
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The feminist page is literally almost every other question is is this sexist. And almost every other response is this is men's fault. Literally also might want to add that this is just the internet and everyone complains and that's why my examples were more grounded in real life. If you go to almost any page on here that's meant for debate discussion or anything like that you will find complaints from anyone This is more for personal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:52 PM
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"High EQ means recognizing your frustration but choosing solution-based action over expressive venting" But yeah a sub that allows people complain isn't a good indicator that more people complain less or more. I mean technically the feminist page complains literally about everything being the fault of men It wouldn't be fair to use them as an indicator
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:42 PM
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I'd love to find women who don't complain about small things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:27 PM
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You don't know what I'm trying to get out of my post You're literally the only one. You can agree with the premise or you cannot that's about it Do you think men complain less or do you think something else It's really that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:26 PM
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You telling me that forums for specific type of people attract certain type of people who communicate the topic? That's a big surprise. On the second topic I think it's kind of valid in a way not completely. Imagine if they did a remake of fifty shades of Gray and it was Elliot page playing the male character.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:26 PM
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I don't know everyone else is doing a good job except you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:24 PM
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Lol happens a lot on this feed. That's why I said I'd wager not that I know for a fact but I would guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:24 PM
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According to an article on emotional intelligence from the solution's journal: "High EQ means recognizing your frustration but choosing solution-based action over expressive venting"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:23 PM
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Okay. Most anything like this is going to be opinion based You can have some facts and some opinions That's okay. I don't think it really contributing anything so no need to respond :-) Thank you for your reply
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:22 PM
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Opening up choosing your battles and knowing how to convey things are three different skills. Complaining is not being emotionally intelligent communicating your problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:21 PM
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I would say the internet is its own thing everyone comes here to complain. But I would say in real life the women in my life complain way more than the men in my life by a large factor
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:20 PM
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I would wager that men do complain less in your life You're just more sensitive to when they do it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:20 PM
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No not all of them some of them. For example never been in trouble for following a woman online but it's some stuff my friends have gone through. About the mutually exclusive thing It's not like you can't complain of your emotionally intelligent but if you're emotionally intelligent you're able to be empathetic with other people's flaws because you know you have some of your own. I feel I'm emotionally intelligent so I don't try to yell at people for things I know I could be just as guilty of
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:19 PM
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It's a good question. I can only speak for myself but I'm assuming it's because we really understand the meeting of being stressed so we try to avoid it as often as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:15 PM
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I don't know I am just leaving a meeting with my boss where I am defensive. Do you see aggression differently?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:49 PM
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I get told "as a man, you should" more often than not not by humans who are not infact men. I get told about stuff consistently by people I know more than. I wouldn't consider it any type of -splaining. Though I would call it many other things
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:06 PM
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2 hours in one week is a lot ?. Yes that's can be a little bit off but the thing is if women based their whole personalities are part of the personalities of it and either means that studies as they are are valid enough to take and make critique from or they're not and people should be a little bit more forgiving
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:48 AM
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The assumption is that if I were gay I would just agree with a man which is not true. If I'm being accused of something I have the right to accurately and fairly give a counter. And I broke up with her partially because of her inability to be financially stable, are being able to properly communicate her needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:12 AM
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Yeah talk to your father about why he didn't do anything. And in that situation your mother wouldn't have delusions of grandeur. Sorry your dad don't contribute much. But I would probably say as a guest he probably don't go around saying my wife is nothing without me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:22 AM
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No I would not. If everyone's contributing 50/50 and no one is feeling like they're better than the other person externally then no that doesn't fit. It's strange how I specified the example and yet you're going off on something that didn't say would you like to talk about it more?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:10 AM
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And their relationships where the husband brings home a bigger portion of the family income, where is there something broken he has to fix it or figure out how to get to monies of the to fix it. He earns the benefits that allow his wife and kid to see the doctor on insurance and if they don't then he pays for it. My thing is the mother may cook the meals but often more than not that husband is paying for all or more of it. And women always bring up medical and dental like how often are people go…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:07 AM
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Delusions of grandeur Do you not understand what that means? Delusions are Not connected to how much you contribute the idea is if both people are contributing equally no one should have the right to feel their superior to the other person. What are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:04 AM
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I think a lot of old school thinking gets more ingrained into women than it does to men. I had a date with a woman recently and she told me she wouldn't go 50/50 with a man because she would be responsible for everything. I said who decided that? I have my own place currently are cooking clean for myself and I find it weird to even let someone else do my laundry. The idea of full financial responsibility in exchange for maintaining the house seems unfair and against my benefit splitting the work…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:02 AM
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No let me simplify it in that situation She would not be delusional to say we both contribute fairly and help each other The delusion is when they're saying I contribute equally but I'm the only thing that is keeping things together
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:59 AM
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Feeling value is different from feeling like you're the main source of that all stability That's what I'm talking about. That's literally what I posted about and that's literally what's in the body so I don't see what's missing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:58 AM
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It's not. Grandeur doesn't depend on what you actually contribute. You could be participating equally but still feel like you're the focal point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:46 AM
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Yes everyone benefits within a relationship one way or another on average. The issue I'm pointing out is that often more often or not when we believe that either everything depends on them or men don't contribute much
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:45 AM
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I truly don't think anyone holds the team together on a level to where I can say one team is doing more work than the other between men and women. I think everyone does a critical role in the average relationship. Having people for the most part do you find without the other person and any stress that comes out of it is just pretty much growing pains or reactimating to things you did before. Making someone's life easier is not equal to making someone's life possible. I myself don't have So much …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:44 AM
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The closer to your topic thing is not that close that's just entitlement. Which of the first thing maybe it's because I'm not a father but I have taken nieces and nephews to the park I've babysat kids and I was never called amazing lol. And again there's a fine line between being appreciative and exalting someone. If you want to say someone's great for helping you out fine but that person shouldn't feel like your whole life would fall apart if they didn't wake up and change that diaper. That's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:40 AM
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I think the sub actually shows that many women care about each other a lot and it's frustration and the ability to take care of themselves is evident by being able to have opinions that don't just placate the opposite gender
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:38 AM
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Most men are absolutely fine on their own. They eat work and play just like women. Wanting a relationship and being unable to be alone are two different. Usually men are at worse in the former
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:33 AM
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I think for most average men who are in relationships they would rather women spend less money on clothes and makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:44 PM
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Why not just keep it all men versus all women regardless? That's exactly how a lot of the wage cap stuff is calculated
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:53 PM
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When it comes to a relationship stuff people should try to understand each other more. This is why as a general rule if I feel offended about something I don't come in hot I come in trying to figure out the intention and really think about what I'm saying before I say it because it's hard to unring that bell..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:27 PM
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On a couple of points here. Yes however this is done often in this subreddit women consistently use stats as to how they shouldn't trust men. So that's kind of what I'm saying is that on the broader scope of things things are better than they look not that the individual should be unafraid but they should be less afraid because and brought a terms they're unlikely to feel some effect. I do understand. But usually people make lifestyle and personality traits based off misinterpretation of studies…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:14 PM
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I think I understand what you're saying but I see a glaring your shirt back. That was essentially mean that your feelings matter more than reality. And that being unclear should weigh more than clarity. Saying I play games too much when I don't and that can be proven is someone throwing an accusation at you and also not being direct with their needs saying I would like to spend time with you Are you up to that? Is an invitation. The angel here is feelings can be weaponize and if you have facts I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:57 PM
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Lady, In which part was I talking about sexual assault at all You were responding to razor blades lol. You lost your point and you lost the small miniature debate please just calm yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:56 PM
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You were commenting on the part when I talk about the pink tax that was related specifically to that. You responded with a link about men being riskier drivers. And they get a more accidents You are by the purest definition victim blaming people even though they contribute to the accident they're still victims and I just agreed with you saying that men are riskier and that sometimes there's a reason why they are charged more So what is it that you're saying. Need help with staying consistent Jul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:41 PM
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Yes there are definitely some factors that lead to certain things costing more between the genders based off behaviors. You are exactly right and you get my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:31 PM
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No not at all I was just directly responding to your statement with what I found
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:36 PM
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Are we taking manosphere as statistical analysis now? They can make any claims they want. We try to go off empirical facts or at least studies with methodologies over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 09:27 PM
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Yes according to statistics 1 in 3 women and one in four men when it comes to intimate partners But pretty much have all types of victimizations Men are more likely to be victimized in women if you add all the categories together
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:39 PM
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A few cents to a few dollars? I'm assuming the difference would be what brand you're buying but if you want to razor blade at the same level as a males raise your blade I'm pretty sure it's essentially the same https://www.shrm.org/hr-today/public-policy/hr-public-policy-issues/Documents/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf The quote from the The department of labor's own commission "The raw wage gap continues to be used in misleading ways to advance public policy agendas without fully expla…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:43 PM
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I mean for my response to what you just said I just looked into the documents you posted and refuted them completely.. You used a non peer reviewed document Worldwide stats including extremely terrible locations. And other things with flaws. This is the summation of what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:21 PM
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Yes we are on this point. 😂 I don't know what we're arguing about lol You think I'm right and that's okay
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:18 PM
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PR ? What are you talking about That's just what I believe lol. That's the whole point. If someone says I have the flu and I feel like I'm going to die, telling them the survival rate is 98% isn't dismissing how terrible they feel. The feeling is real. The odds are also real. Accurate information about probability doesn't erase the experience it calibrates the response to the actual risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:16 PM
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The wage gap absolutely disappears when you count for hours, experience and all of that It's literally in the same report The pink tax absolutely disappears You can go to the store right now or go online look at the same quality of products and you will find that they're the same price within a couple of cents. Using razors I'm actually seeing that women's razors cost a whole lot less
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:13 PM
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Lol Are you just summarizing my statements now as a counter to what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:11 PM
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Yes it does exist. I'm agreeing to that I don't know what you're arguing for. I said specifically that it doesn't exist on a grand scale. And the report that came out in the early 2000s literally points to the fact of how the wage gap basically vanishes when you account for all the other factors that are reasonable so what are you talking about. Are you trying to fight an argument that does not exist cuz that would be poetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:09 PM
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So I acknowledge it exist.... Are you saying that I'm trying to be comfortable with how little it exists? Or that I am down playing it by saying that it exists? I'm kind of confused here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:07 PM
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It's legitimately based off the work you do.from the EEOC The EEOC's Compliance Manual on Compensation Discrimination states that compensation differences are not unlawful if they are based on a legitimate, nondiscriminatory reason rather than a protected characteristic. Examples include: Seniority systems Merit systems Quantity or quality of production Experience, education, or training Performance evaluations At this point I don't think you know what you're talking about. And again I'm happy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:06 PM
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It absolutely is rare I was referencing the report but also I did say this " Now I'm not saying nothing is real. Some things are genuine problems that should be addressed and eradicated. But accurate information about the actual scale of a problem should bring some relief." What are you even fighting at this point? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:01 PM
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To give you another example if there was an office that was half men and half women and the women were doing more work and staying longer hours and the men didn't have as much work but you guys had the same roles and titles and minimum standards but both men and women got paid equally then you would have a case for gender discrimination
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 05:00 PM
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But it's based off work you do. The same work for the same pay If you're working more hours then you're not doing the same work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:57 PM
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I didn't downplay violent stats I reported the stats as they are ? I gave an accurate reading of what the report said. It's not as prevalent as so many other things It exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:56 PM
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It existed in your particular scenario. On aggregate it does not really exist So prevalent that there should be an uproar about it. Getting treat it worse because of a whole different factors exist we have laws against it You have the right to defend yourself when it does occur. I don't consider certain issues rampant but I'm definitely happy that there's laws in place to protect me from what it does happen. So I'm happy you won. But I'm also happy that it's rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:55 PM
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Salaried workers still work different numbers of hours. Salary means your pay is fixed, it doesn't mean everyone puts in the same time. The BLS hours data covers salaried workers too. A salaried man working 55 hours and a salaried woman working 42 hours are both on salary. The hours difference doesn't disappear because the pay structure is different. I am a salary worker that makes more than my male counterpart within the same role. Why ? I do extracurriculars that make me more valuable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:53 PM
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You're right, the data is unreliable ,which means the pink tax claim it was supposed to prove is also meaningless. Can't use bad methodology to establish the gap and then use the same bad methodology to dismiss the counter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:50 PM
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That's why some of them not all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:49 PM
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Love that you look it up the pew review is referencing the previous study. This document doesn't go into it but if you look into the original study that the pew is referencing under table five it breaks it down further The Senate one is not peer-reviewed either That one is a advocacy document. Essentially it's for policy and so they conducted their own review based off what they believe again not peer-reviewed If you look at an actual study you can look up the one from University of Minnesota. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:39 PM
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Actually you did participate one way or another The bureau of Labor statistics has access to all incomes that are documented or they use the same thing that all studies use which is a sample size. They took women who did not work an incomes of women who did work and mashed them together to compare it to men who did work and did not work
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:30 PM
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Kind of agree with this little bit and this is someone who is on the left wing. For years I was like yeah we should definitely make a law on them and I realize there's already laws about this and you can easily contact the federal government a lawyer or your local labor department and they will sue the crap out of them I was like we already have it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:23 PM
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No men aren't just out here fighting to be fighting in general. The main point is domestic violence against women by men and we don't have 80% of men being violent to 80% of women It's 6% of men who commit nearly 73% of all violence towards women. Should it be comforting all around probably not Should you be out here saying that all men are the problem Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:22 PM
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The original BLS document that a lot of women use for the wage gap mentioned this Also the 2009 labor statistics department mentioned this Google "An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity in Wages Between Men and Women" Then as an added bonus you should look up the differences between single men and women without kids and how much hours they work. Men still work on average an hour and a half more than women with the same home life responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:21 PM
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Who says that It's doing nothing? Outside of subsidizing child care which I do agree with. A lot of women just don't want to return back to work if they have the option to. Even a lot of men would rather stay home with your child then go back to work but they have to go. Legitimate question to this because I've heard about this and I've never actually asked but what would be the reasonable thing for this? There's no way if you pause your career to take care of your kid that you will come back an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:17 PM
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I have told every woman I've dated that if we want to work towards her being the breadwinner in a household I would gladly take the harder job of being the stay at home parent not one of them wanted to work towards that goal ultimately they don't see it as masculine and more likely to see the man as being lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:06 PM
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😂 who said it was dumb? Who said there was not important? I think it's very important I think a mother and a father do very critical things in regardless of who's breadwinner or homemaker both lose out on something when they are fulfilling their role. I would never say a woman who who chooses to stay home with children is dumb I just hope that while I'm out providing for a family the wife doesn't assume I'm just doing nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:05 PM
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I'm kind of confused a little bit about your framing. Men do more paid work at a job women do more housework unpaid at home Even unmarried single women and men without kids there It still shows up. Men do about an hour and a half more paid work than women who are single and without kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:02 PM
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Even to the the own reporting in these studies they account for all of it and still a good logical response is if it's the same then just get the men's version. You can go online right now and look up the same quality of razors between men and women and you'll find that they are about the same cost. Strangely what I'm finding here is that women stuff are actually very cheap compared to men's stuff Have you look at the luxury versions of everything. If you want to look into some real stuff look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:59 PM
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Men experience the loss of critical child development progress while they're out providing financial stability for their family.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:55 PM
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I On the pink tax, you're right that it includes products only women buy like menstrual products. That's a real cost. But men paying more for food due to higher caloric needs is also a real cost. Both are trade-offs of existing as the biological creature you are. Neither is systemic oppression. Calling one a tax and the other just a fact of life is the framing doing work. On the feelings point, you're actually right and it proves the original point . The issue was never really the hours. I loved…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:54 PM
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Lol. Are you just tell someone you want more time with them and not attack things that aren't true. Throwing around bases accusations is not necessarily the green flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:47 PM
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The first part is men are not significantly more violent towards women. What's happening is that there's a small population of men that interact with more women. And DV cases with they usually find is that it's not the man's first time they have a history of doing this with multiple women kind of like robbers who robbed multiple places. As far as the video game thing I wholeheartedly agree. The problem wasn't that I was playing too much video games It was that they wanted to spend more time with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:46 PM
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Actually not true is what I'm telling you things geared towards women are not more expensive inherently You could probably go down to your store right now look at the same quality of products. You will find that like to like products are either the same price or sometimes a little bit cheaper for women. That's what the study shows when you account for categories. If you go on Amazon right now and look for things men versus women you will find that it's the same cost if it's the same quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:44 PM
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That's actually counter to what's actually true that statistically it's not a whole bunch of men assaulting women is a small group of men assaulting a whole bunch of women. Let's use college where there is a lot of victims by research they find that 6% of college men have either been a situation where they have raped someone or almost raped someone but each one of those people usually do that to six different women who issue is not that men are more violent is that the violent ones are doing vio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:41 PM
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There's a 2018 study about the pink tax that was done by all women. The kind of sneak it in there but they say that when you were just for size quality level and all that stuff is actually the same cost. And what they also found that for a certain items things actually cost more for men insurance, work clothes etc. The wage cap thing could be found within the same rage gap study that everyone references The household gap study actually is accurate for what it presents but it's not accurate as to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:36 PM
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Oh I agree and I see that on the RP part. I would say the only difference here is that there's a way to easily resolve a lot of women's issues whereas the resolutions to men's fears is often pushed back against. Some of your fears can be refuted in the same study or resolved going to a cheaper store.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:30 PM
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Yes we know that but the messaging is always the same work for the same pay It's never been about comparing people who are raising kids versus people who are actively working. By default no matter what There's always going to be a gap on that. If I were to do an inverse study and say what percentage of financial responsibility are all men taken care of compared to all women It would be substantially disproportionate. I would then be able to say women aren't taking up as much financial responsibi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:26 PM
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Yeah I think the difference is you're talking about people who are actively inside the minority issue versus people who assume that it's happening to them. If you know the wages of your counterparts you can go to HR or sue. If there is a pink tax then just get the cheaper brand regardless if it's men or women, If you feel your partner is playing too much video games you can look at the stats of how much they play. Being within the actual problem at that point would be more defensible than procla…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:23 PM
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But that's still assuming that men in the same experiences and category have a vastly different experience. What I'm finding is that a lot of nuance has to be put in place to make men seem like they are overwhelmingly perpetrators or benefiting. Again I don't think it's accurate to say that women have no grievances But if you're within the same scenario men and women do you believe there's truly a big gap between certain things. If you are a single mother and a single father with the same access…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:18 PM
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I think it depends on how you define a good man. But I think there are more good men than people think. But you just can't define a good man by those willing to put up with bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:21 PM
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I don't know how I didn't disagree and didn't claim he didn't for her saying but Adam did too does nothing to disqualify what I said :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:41 AM
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No the one about the gang assault One was developmentally delayed. It's all trash absolutely. Kids who assault should be in jail for a very long time did you read your articles you sent me? For anyone reading this please read those I think two of them involved children one was he said she said and then two of them in general were all fat. Anyone proven beyond Shadow of a doubt to be a rapist should be in jail for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:16 AM
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Trash results. I will say cases involving kids usually end up this way. However two of these are so horrendous I'm surprised that the judge themselves still have a job if they do. Two of these however are straight up he said she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:02 AM
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And that's part of a debate I'm cool with that but you cannot assume I said want anything even though the counter is obviously stated
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:36 AM
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The first thing I say is believe it or not, I did talk about people we know from high school, adults in out adult life. The fantasies that women get aroused to and I also talk about psychology. :-) I don't know what more you could have wanted but obviously you stuck to something you feel like you might have a crack in. If you don't get the point that's okay but it doesn't mean I didn't convey the thoughts adequately
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:37 AM
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Thank you for understanding. These people we'll talk about subtext and understanding and be like he said literally even though I said "believe it or not"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:20 AM
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I literally say in the first paragraph that if you believe it or not the Bible.. It's just the only thing you can grab on too but no one is yet even talked about the fact that I mentioned research studies. Go go head
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:19 AM
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Online says 31 to 40% of all rapes are reported. The rest comes down to evidence and a jury. If you don't have evidence of something you cannot put someone in jail for it that's the unfortunate side effect of anything. And it is extremely rare that a panel of jury is just men when it comes to a court case of sexual assault. So you have to also convince a jury of your peers. Do I think every person who is accused of this crime is innocent no Do I assume everyone who's accused of this crime is gui…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:02 AM
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You can Google the average sentencing for rape. It's 14 to 19 years That even means with the outliers of a few months or a year it's still almost two decades for a lot of people. Have you separated by men and women it's drastically different. You can't judge a system purely off outliers men are going to jail for this and they are going to jail for a long time. Women however are not going to jail as long if not not at all for the crimes they commit usually. You cannot say outliers don't matter of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:24 AM
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I actually addressed it a couple times
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:59 PM
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There was a woman who bullied her depressed boyfriend into committing suicide She only got 11 months for murder And let me tell you about girls who are bullies that get no attention. Girl bullies are one of the most documented things next to male bullies female bullies it almost no repercussions The average female rapist gets two to five years. The average male rapist gets 10 to 18... Brock is a outlier not the norm women sentencing are five times lower for the same crime Make it make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:41 PM
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Yes, lesbian relationships statistically are the shortest ones Money and height aren't relationship qualities 😂 that's why. You're judging someone else by what they seem to be passionate about which is fine that just means they're not compatible with you and are they bringing up sex too much or are they just bringing it up at all? And I don't that's why I cut them off but they have the right to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:22 PM
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Exactly and that's why I'm here. I don't let women scapegoat on affirmative statements based off their opinion online. We are two sides of the same coin so no more talk about why even care Your assumption is that women on average aren't fickle either Even good women can be fickle. No one is perfect I'm a fall short some days are all the time so do women. For women are more likely to have a I am perfect complex. Divorce with alimony andchild support does nothing but just show that women couldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:20 PM
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If they blame everyone else for their problems why even care about them You don't have to make this post yet you're here. And I'm here with you I think a lot of women are fickle there's not a lot of women you can criticize and they still want to be friends with you I dare you to try it I once spent the whole day cleaning the house The only thing I didn't do was make the bed and she was pissy about that. Lol Of course all these things are important but men and women have different standards of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:06 PM
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Brock Turner was 11 years ago. He was convicted. The judge was terrible and likely influenced by money and resources not by gender. The system identified that and the judge got recalled. That's accountability happening even if slowly. But since we're talking about examples here are some recent ones that don't get the same energy. Stacey Sharples falsely accused ten men of rape over twelve years. She was just convicted in 2026. Mahendra Patel was accused of trying to abduct a child at a Walmart i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:02 PM
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Eve was not there when God said that to Adam Adam had to tell Eve
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:01 PM
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There's literally a phrase within the lesbian community called U-Haul lesbian about women who habitually get into super intense relationships too early without knowing someone and it fizzles out very quickly. What do you want in a man is a conversation starter for an open dialogue to communicate what's potentially compatible and incompatible. You can talk about traits you can talk about what you like You could talk about what makes you feel comfortable You can even choose not to answer which som…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:00 PM
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I'm asking you to tell me where this actually happens to where it was used to protect someone in a court of law. We were talking about anecdotal things I can tell you real life situations and legal situations where women get passes on their behavior You can't hit a girl back she's a girl just take it You know how women can be during their time of the month I am the table " I'm sorry that you feel this way" And all types of things. In addition with that you can look up any law almost any law you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:38 PM
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I don't care about a lot of things I speak on. Seems like you don't care about unsocialized non-emotionally intelligent men but you made a whole post on here about it so I think all is fair I don't think you guys kicked them out of the group honestly I think more often than not you feel pity for them and collectively feel their hurt. We can barely call women gold diggers without a lot of other women saying no they have options and preferences and we must respect that I think it's easy for you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:34 PM
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No I think there's a difference between getting along with women and also understanding them. To understand them means they are static and when you are static that means you are responsible for deviations that results in something happening against your own benefit. Most women do not want to be static that's why they are often vague. Now I know how to navigate that doesn't mean I get why women are like that. Yes I'm saying women are more often fickle than men. As far as sexuality ask bi men how …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:30 PM
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These are a lot of women! These are relatives friends people you're attracted to and people you're unattracted to. I don't know why women tend to think that unreasonable ones are so few when they pray I have a couple of these type of women in their own circles one way or another. I see you're stating it as simple as clean your room take out the trash watch your kids hey we haven't spent any time on a date but most of these things are still things to communicate I don't know what's the big issue …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:14 PM
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Love your responses. There's a difference between understanding people and having something to base understanding on. For example I met some neighbors for the first time and they told me they were vegetarians. Next time I saw them they invited me out to a steakhouse and I said I thought you were vegetarians and they said oh not all the time. This is what it's like to talk to women not that I'm not willing to understand and miss that usually you guys give a surface understanding of your thoughts …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:59 PM
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Boys will be boys is one of the most use things I have never actually seen in real life. Like in what way has this benefited men at the detriment of women on such a scale that it was actually used as a institutional tool. The case is like this are usually super far and few between and usually is associated with money more often than it being used for gender protections. But the fact that women get less jail time for the same crime but not mean that girls will be girls is more prevalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:45 PM
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The overarching thing is about women making well informed bad decisions. He wasn't dark triad but the fact that he came from a family that was pretty much mortal enemy of her family must have made the whole situation more attractive to her
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:43 PM
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Bro literally said if you believe in it or not there are stories from a long time ago that speak about this habit with women and then mention like three or four other things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:42 PM
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Exactly I think there's an issue with some women that make it hard to accept that their decisions are bad even after being well informed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:41 PM
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If you read further I literally talk about those things. So again even with all the information present it to you chose to make a definite definition based off what you felt emotionally valid to say
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:26 PM
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That's why I put even if you don't I'm saying it's still being written about and I don't think it's very accurate to say it's only used to control women It's used to control men and as well There's like multiple stories of men being punished for things Heck one dude got angry and he was told he couldn't go to the promise land.. another dude did nothing and he got humbled sent to jail and made a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:22 PM
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Yes you're getting the point exactly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:21 PM
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Have you look at the contacts I'm saying that the concept of women making bad choices is one of the oldest things. I didn't unassign blame from Adam. He should have followed God and never listen to his wife. Even in the Bible it doesn't unassign blame from him that's why he was still punished. Regardless I gave like four other non-religious examples
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:20 PM
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" if you believe in the Bible or not" That's why I said it. The fact is the Bible as it is is over 2000-2000 years old and it's current iteration and they were still writing about this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:18 PM
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Yes he absolutely did . No doubt he by fault takes responsibility for his actions and he should have never listened to his wife
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:18 PM
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A little bit more to say to that I think you see us as obtuse because you know you see your communication as understandable well subconsciously demanding nuance. If you say you want a nice guy yet you're with someone with the extensive violent criminal history we're going to ask for some explanation your answer is going to be like you're not my type but yet we're seeing that your type isn't even your type. Another clear example is let's take something about hey if things need to be done around t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:17 PM
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The thing is woman kind of thriving arbitrary greenness. So understanding woman is a lot of trial in error. And this is coming from someone who's actually successful with women. Women absolutely do not make sense at face value you do absolutely have to dig deeper. The fact that you can't take women literally at their word his signing up that women can be difficult. However on the other side the average male will tell you something and they will want that exactly. Women on this Reddit and didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:11 PM
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Dating is not overall better for women. the entry of dating is more rewarding. Womenn have a higher rate of getting pregnant without getting married, STDs amongst other things. It is not better or safer all around
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:48 PM
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Anyone who's hostile is more likely to be by the hostility does not equal violence hostility does mean you are a little bit hostile and should be avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:14 AM
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Hostility does not equal violence feminist can be very hostile towards men but I wouldn't say they're violent
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:05 AM
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That's not intrinsic to it or even talk from what I see. I can see why you would assume that happens but I don't see that it happens. You see very few of something inherently talks if it's something used to manipulate woman so I don't see by your logic about the junk but I disagree with it that's the reality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:40 AM
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Yeah I know I don't necessarily see that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:44 AM
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Violence against who?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:26 AM
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It is absolutely destructor for both men and women. I do not recommend a party lifestyle for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:40 PM
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If you ask a feminist they would say all of you can history in almost every culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:37 PM
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There is a world history and counter movement called feminism that specifically talks about how men don't care about women and decentered them. I don't think what you're saying is very accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:33 PM

Think Like a man literally sold 3 million books, made a movie etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:42 PM
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But for those who do have a history of abuse that is well known to people then it's kind of your fault got to heal I'm willing to die on again in this specific example the guy is a known cheater with a whole bunch of women who Said how bad he was as a partner. This would be like modern day people leaving their young underage girl around r Kelly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:35 PM
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I'm not arguing for the alternative. What I'm saying here is you can absolutely be independent and happy without spending tons of money yet a lot of self-help things require you to spend
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:07 PM
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Will sheesh sorry for working in corporate where we have to use words like that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:35 PM
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I don't think it's okay to scare women into submission at all. I do think there's hypocrisy and saying that one thing that talks about self-improvement success in decentering the opposite sex is considered a money grab while for women they're saying things is considered empowerment. This is nothing about intrinsic rights of working ETC This is more along the lines of lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:31 PM
3

I consider calling a group of people undercover an insult. And if it were true outing people is also taboo. So you're incorrect in two ways
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:38 PM
1

If you want to have the time of your life you'll go to a club. If you want to feel beautiful you buy some clothes or some makeup. If you want to girls weekend you go to Miami. The feeling of empowerment is different from the cost of it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:35 PM
0

There's actually some new studies emerging that's actually contrary to what you said. In summary because taller men have more success They are less likely to be jealous and have more access to cheating. Not to say that all tall men cheat but there are some connection there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:33 PM
2

Your perspective is not valid. Just a terrible opinion. You can have it. But not valid. It's a broad insult disguised as a wise take
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:31 PM
3

You can feel anything you want lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:25 PM
5

I think you just contradict to yourself red pill regardless of you like it or not does work. It's just not the healthiest for the individuals or for others but it teaches you a lot the same thing that self-improvement industry folks teach women. So again if someone finds that it's helpful and that is useful according to your own words then it's not a scam It's your opinion that it can never help men It's not the truth that it can't work for a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:06 AM
2

Okay I can live with that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:46 AM
0

You ask me a question and I answered it and those people usually Will tell you that being hypersexual is not usually healthy actually by all measures hyposexuality is one of the most destructive things. Don't ask the question if you Don't like the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:44 AM
-6

The children who have to live in single parent homes The therapists who have to help them heal from alcohol and sex related traumas The Doctors who have to help them recover from STDs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:43 AM
1

You do you commented on a post you didn't have to respond to on the string that you were not a part of so yes you do in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:40 AM
7

You can love yourself as much as you want eating multiple books, events and listening to Superstars that get money off of you listings by not the best way to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:28 AM
6

Offset is literally known as someone who cheats. His songs are about cheating. This whole demeanor is about cheating. There's nothing about him that would make me feel confident he would not cheat lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:22 AM
-14

They usually not though they're usually encouraging to a pretty much arranged downwards value of a quality of life, consistent clubbing thinking of the male species as evil and hyper-sexualization is not inherently a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:47 AM
1

The hypocrisy was about they themselves proclaiming they don't have to do much while doing everything and choosing terrible people to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:40 AM
-1

These women said they didn't knee relationships while getting into relationships with some of the worst-known people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:40 AM
7

You can still be scammed regardless of what the reaction is to
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:39 AM
2

According to Google the top book right now or one of them is called why men love b******. It's 24 years old and is very popular amongst young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:24 PM
0

It's worded differently but it's exactly the same. If you withhold sex from someone who's interested in you you're pretty much making sure they are invested. Because most people are not 25
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:09 PM
-1

There are women I've had to tell" I am not goodfor you" and they still keep on messaging me. It's like they have some type of prey drive or something cuz like I've been in a situations where I was broken up with I took it very well and said okay I respect your choice and I still get harassed a year and a half later lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:37 PM
1

Oh I wanted to ask this for a while but like as they are really that much of a money grab? I mean everything is online for free and I'm assuming people who pay for it are very few and far between
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:22 PM
-3

I mean again both are kind of dumb but one tells you to be as uninterested as possible to get something. The other one tells you to Not put out to get something. Both are appealing to a nature of pursuing. And there is nothing wrong with just wanting sex in the first place It seems to be red pill leases honest and behavior is not like pretending to be nice and wanting a relationship to have sex and disappear
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:21 PM
1

Don't have to respect it, But women have book clubs and million books bought
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:19 PM
0

Not missing the point. And I don't know about truly agree. Fact is unfortunate thing is without saying I agree with it or not is that both sides actually work that's Why there is some success
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:10 PM
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Men literally go to jail for being violent and get more time in prison compared to women because of it. We don't question it because there's already an answer for it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:34 AM
-1

Either or. I guess he felt safe enough to reply in a casual non-violent manner. Trust me the lady had no one on her side people including me were visibly disgusted at her. She completely escalated the situation for no absolute reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:13 AM
-2

People literally only don't say things because they feel the ramifications I was doing so are not worth it. I don't know what you're really arguing against but no no one should feel safe abusing another person verbally or physically. It is an opinion. A strong one but otherwise it encourages the wrong thing. Considering that we are on a platform right now that can ban you and people avoid saying certain things because they fear getting banned off it I think my way is actually working one way or …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:08 AM
0

There's a difference. I don't believe anyone should feel safe abusing another person in any form. Should you feel safe going up to a group of gay people and calling them the f word? I'm black and I know for a fact no one feels safe coming up to me and saying the n-word. Should I hit them ? No , Should they feel the immediate gut fear of saying the n word to my face because it Could be the last thing they see before getting knocked out? Absolutely. Also congratulations. And I hope you never do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:00 AM
-2

I got some more asking Why do people see a man who defends himself against this type of woman a predator
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:45 AM
-1

You know my response initially was to say would I want to protect a woman who proactively gets me into dangerous situations. But that felt wrong even though it's right. So I guess I should ask Is a woman obligated to be an unsafe situations if she's in love with a man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:59 AM
0

I hear what you're saying I have two things I kind of want to say though and I'm interested in your response. The first thing is why does it have to be a crazy person couldn't it just be a person who is fully cognizant and things she will be protected The second point is being the bigger person is an option Not a default in general if a man comes up to me and tries to push me and all that I will defend myself I'm considered in the Right regardless of what I do walk away or stay and fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:47 AM
1

So, It's still kind of wild though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:34 AM
6

I agree I can totally see how anyone could be crazy. But why in situations like this are the men look that at any point as the crazier person. Like a violent woman is still an innocent person even if they are the first offender?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:33 AM
3

I'd love to find a girl group that doesn't gossip. I actually defy you within your own relationships with women to find conversations that don't result and talking about someone else near negatively behind their back
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:34 PM
3

No I'm telling you This is legit I promise you there's always a problem with the women in my friends group. My closest friend always has some new problem at work and in every job that's not related to actual work. Outside of that for the most part there seems to always be beef with love female groups
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:29 PM
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No you're just assuming that doesn't happen on the broader level. Again this comes down to how men speak to each other and how society speaks to men. And as far as losing value let's not talk about the fact that men literally are considered not value for not being able to take care of another adult's expensive sometimes, high value man is just as much prominent in the zeitgeist as high value women. Criticism itself is not gendered the individual criticisms might be but they're not more or less t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:20 PM
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I call my male friends sluts, when a guy turns 30 everyone definitely tells them when they're going to have kids or get serious. I don't tell anyone who's a stay-at-home person that they're lazy. I just don't assume that they're the only one doing work. Men don't cry as much so that's another point. I don't call anyone left over lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:10 PM
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Nah just a woman's attempt to turn a non violent male thing into something that's violent. I get your point exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:08 PM
2

I know. But this has nothing to do with physical violence at all. This at most is communication styles
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:01 PM
3

. Why change. Why is women's way of communicating default or objectively better ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:44 PM
2

😂 no body said anything about hitting women. And women's kindness has a lot of lies in it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:43 PM
0

Lol nah that was not valid question at all lol. That was just straight to the gut
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:12 PM
1

Invoking the angry black woman stereotype? No talking about times black women were rude heck yes. I was raised in New York grew up there and went to school there This is a lived experience not me evoking a stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:12 AM
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I am a black man. And they way black women talk to anyone can be more on the true disrespectful side rather than attempted bonding. I once told my (black) ex that she needs to be better with money because she was late on her rent. She told me that she was was use to having gifts because her parents spoiled her and that I wouldn't understand because my mom died and no one was there to love me the way I should.. men have an air of Hyperbole when we dig into each other women in general want to caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:41 AM
1

I don't think so. I feel like a lot of female relationships have issues with drama. I mean think about it if women were much more emotionally developed why do they consistently have more new problems at work every time you talk to them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:17 AM
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I say there is a nuance between being blunt and humiliating. When my friend said something I don't like I know he's trying to help in a way. When a girlfriend uses something I don't like she's deliberately trying to hurt me. This is the difference between. If I say I can't trust women a bro might be like you're a simp or something of that nature. A woman might say is because your mother used to beat you You remember you told me that Is that why you can't trust women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:26 PM
5

The assumption is that they are doing worse but that's not necessarily true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:11 PM
0

I think I'm agreeing with you basically You could be blunt You could be insulting You could be blunt and insulting. You can be blunt and then someone feel insulted. I do feel like sometimes the lightness for women just be out of nowhere though. For men they'll be like why can't I get a woman and will be like oak You're a little bit ugly. A woman will answer no one's obligated to date you You sound like a rapist. You see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:20 PM
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What's more honest than punching someone in the face ? But let me be real I think it's part of the byproduct of being more direct. With women you guys seem to hate people You're in close proximity to all day in your lives are measurable for it. Always felt it was so strange that the emotionally intelligent crowd would always have a new problem of the week at work. But yeah if you know where you stand with someone then you're less likely to beat around the bush and get right down to it one way or…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:17 PM

I feel you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:07 PM
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I call that absolute BS to your BS lol. I would say in a workplace that's someone who has been a people leader In multiple departments The men almost instinctively talk to women differently because more often than not women are more likely to randomly cry in the workplace. I've told men that they're doing terrible And they moved on from it I've had to tell women that they have opportunities to be better and I'm going to help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:04 PM
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There is a very fine line between bluntness and insulting. But also they ask you for your honest opinion and they couldn't handle it then it's on them completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:03 PM
1

You don't need to be abused to know things are the red flag...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:36 PM
1

The Dread game one is funny because a lot of it could just be anxiety that's not valid. I've seen examples like him not texting quick enough or the guy going to the gym more which is signs of anxious attachment or just someone who wants to go to the gym more. Again these only work with people who are almost toxic themselves. Faking it to you make it is pretty much advice and almost every level of anything. Heck popular women's relationship books give the same advice that you saying are toxic. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 12:55 AM
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So negging is manipulation because it makes someone feel a certain way to influence their behavior. Okay. Then we need to talk about women loudly announcing they don't date broke men. Women calling short guys "short kings" as a consolation label. Women publicly ranking men by height and income on dating profiles and podcasts. Women playing hard to get and waiting to text back specifically to seem less available. Women following "He's Just Not That Into You" and "The Rules" as documented strategi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 08:29 PM
1

But how is that something that misleads you? Their actions are upfront if they choose withhold affection That's not pretending to be more appealing In fact that is through and through showing their true nature. Is someone comes up to you and says you're not my priority Why in the hell was that be considered manipulation. Why are you attracted to that in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 08:12 PM
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I mean preconceived notions are definitely something people debate all the time. But other than that I can agree that it has a lot of misogyny in it 100%. I just can't agree that it's manipulative. It's so upfront with what they do that it pretty much have a playbook of what they're going to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 08:07 PM
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They usually say it by , You're not that important to me, I have other people, and an assortment of backhanded compliments. They tell you directly by action and by how they treat you. There should be no way that red pill behavior should be considered manipulation because it's just shit behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:29 PM
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I agree with what you're saying I just disagree with it being called manipulation If someone says to you I'm going to wreck your life or shows you the steps on how they're going to wreck your life How is that manipulation It's like the most upfront thing of someone acts like a jerk you can't say he manipulated me into believing he was a jerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:21 PM
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Which part says I support it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:20 PM
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Actually he specifically always said that was the case She just assumed she could convince him otherwise. She was actually one trying to manipulate him into a relationship dynamic he didn't want
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:23 PM
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I don't know about the murder and assault aspect of what you said but I can concede to the point where it might result in men hating women. But I don't think they're necessarily being lied to I think what's very uncomfortable that you kind of spoken to and that I've spoken to you is that attraction It's complicated. We don't always want what's actually healthy for us we want what we are attracted to. If it were not true NBA players would have the same amount of success as the average man and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:43 AM
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I think there's a slight difference in that. Though there is an argument that all men like big breasts and that they do date very in types of women but there hasn't been a significant portion of the male population that shows discuss when seeing a small chested woman. And even more so the social ramifications of men doing that are pretty intense. So validate the first part of what you're saying but I kind of disagree with the impact of when both genders do it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:37 AM
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My gut reaction is to disagree with you but I am intrigued. Can you share a little bit more about your thought
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:30 AM
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Of course we do. But they don't try to keep it a secret which is an important part The problem I have with some levels of feminism is that the advocate for a quality well not dismantling the aspects of the patriarchy that's also harmful to men but beneficial to them. The red pill seems to have a mantra that works but also they're not keeping it secret that they are toxic as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:11 AM
2

Agreed and I'm not saying that the behavior Should be celebrated I'm saying that at the very least it's the most honest version of interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:45 AM
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Them presenting something that makes them super toxic actually is toxic so they're pretty much just showing themselves but yeah that's the point of what I'm trying to say You're not being manipulated if they're being a dick. You just like someone who's an a****** and then after you're done being used you don't want to come office immature so you completely blame the other person. I honestly don't know why women don't like admitting this but like men have no issue stating that they love crazy wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:40 AM
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And again you know what they are about and what the warning sides are. Yet people still fall into it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:21 AM
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I mean not to make a week response but this is no different from wood a lot of women everywhere say. Everyone makes generalizations
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:20 AM
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According to what I'm reading and from the very few red pill like men I do know they never actually plan to be exclusive. In fact their history and what they say through otherwise. I remember watching a video where this man said he wants to be with a lot of women but she's not allowed to do the same thing. But if she does want to do that they just will no longer be in their relationship she said it was such there I thought he was saying what his dynamic comfort is. She was never manipulated she …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:19 AM
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And I get that I'm not saying that there isn't toxicity I'm just saying how can something be manipulative if they tell you exactly what they want from you Andrew Tate I would never want him to be around women but no woman can say they were manipulated into something that he openly says he wants to do. I don't know If you understanding my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 01:57 AM
0

a lot of women on dating apps would say (not all of them) nested but solo poly 😂. And yes I've seen a lot of women say that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 01:47 AM
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You don't know both of us right I am telling you directly that she talks to me often about her problems meaning she feels comfortable with it yet I'm just saying I don't want to share and I'm talking about how she feels I'm not giving enough and your assumption is I think she's wrong even though I allow it and make myself available to her to vent? Unnecessary vilification that doesn't actually fit what was written. But regardless of how I feel about it as her friend I'm giving her space to conne…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:49 AM
1

1,000% * 10 agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:32 AM

I would strongly say that's not true considering that if he wanted to he would is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:11 AM

Objectively I wouldn't want to be with a woman knew me for one summer and left a man she committed to. On the other side I wouldn't want a woman who would leave me for a guy she only met for one summer. Red flags all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 03:10 AM
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I have to disagree There's a song by Taylor Swift with almost a billion views that say otherwise, if you Google where's my Romeo it comes up like crazy. Also you have to consider that dark Manistee looks are actually 10 times more cringy than Romeo and Juliet. Also considered there's been hype at least three or four remakes of the story and multiple plays about that story that women have I think you're kind of wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:58 AM
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No I think we're speaking the same language I'm actually advocating for people just both doing what they need to do. And having fun while doing it. And with that is because you do dishes after cooking doesn't mean you deserve an award for that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:56 AM

Oh I'm never against doing a nice things but at the expense of your own peace that's not good
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:53 AM

It's been a while since I watched it. But considering she left a man that was already committing to her for a man she hasn't talked in decades. Why would a healthy minded man want that type of woman who would just leave on a dime
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:52 AM
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Okay I don't think you are kind of doing the same thing you're against. If you're telling someone who is given to you in a way that they are comfortable with that they need to give more that is as problematic as someone saying that you need to be less
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:21 PM
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There's also like 80 other things you could do in a relationship I'm not going to stay here and list all of them for example being there for someone when they're sick or picking someone up from work if their car breaks down. These in general worry about the more basic things in the relationship compared to the over exaggerated things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:13 PM
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I don't think I'm missing the point really. I think you're the second person on this post that says that two people experience it differently but kind of pointing in a way that one way has to be done more than the other My point isn't that it's wrong to always want more when I'm saying here is that when people are doing the minimum you can't consider that as not enough in general versus you just demanding more than needed. In my example with my friend she thought I wasn't contributing enough whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:07 PM
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It's very interesting that stability for some people does not include fun I value stability and I have a lot of fun with it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:05 PM
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Again why would that not be included in the bare minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 11:04 PM
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It's not that women aren't allowed. It's when women assume it's nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:58 PM
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Lol as you should. Do you consider that above bare minimum ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:41 PM
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I mean what part doesn't sound like any healthy relationship? I'm legitimately asking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:22 PM
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It's very interesting that you read it that way because I'm saying the opposite. I'm saying that she sees my contributions as less. I didn't say anything about it being superior I did however say I don't have as many problems to talk about. I'm curious why you see that I'm saying I'm superior and how you're not accusing her of the thing you're accusing me of. Very curious indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:21 PM
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😂 okay now I know you don't read The first thing I said is yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:19 PM
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I agree. I think it's fine to when I have a nice loving relationship and to be happy. There's nothing wrong with that but I think there are some things that people kind of take too far when reasonability can be considered low bar than I think that can be very problematic. But if you're happiness depends on someone else not respecting themselves then you don't want happiness you want submission
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:19 PM
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Lol who says romance isn't included.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:16 PM
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I mean those are implied I even talked about going out on dates You could plan a life together without anxious attachment. No one does ignored but no one is obsessed on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:16 PM
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Yes however this post is not the big deal it's just an example so let's not get too caught up in. It was made to be an example about how people think what they're doing is bonding when reality is just kind of anxiety inducing. Now the major problem wasn't that she was sharing with me that's fine That's what I signed up for the problem is she feels I'm not contributing enough
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:15 PM
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Being someone's priority is fine being someone's only focus and orbit as a completely other thing. I really think the practice of loving healthy and the The way people want to be loved sometimes are not The same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:13 PM
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Very good response, I actually remember at some point probably within the last 10 years there was a big emperor about the cultural differences and diagnosis. People did not like the fact that some medical professionals were trained specifically and how to interact with different cultures though I thought it was a great thing. For example being from an African American community I find that a lot of people want to pray away some issues I don't think that makes you culturally insensitive. I truly …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 10:07 PM

😂. What conversation What even produce that statement. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:18 PM

Ask a therapist of ambiguous good for any type of interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:01 AM

Yet they're still five different answers between two different post on two different subreddits. Do you know what feminism is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:27 AM

I didn't say anything about supremacy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:26 AM

You are not blocked
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:25 AM

I absolutely did not block anybody never have and never will unless it's straight up nuts. I don't know why this person is saying I blocked them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:25 AM

That's the thing you can't really 100% say they are with or against What I'm saying
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:24 AM

You're not blocked if you're talking about me 😮
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:22 AM
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There are more women on this post and on the original feminist page that are basically saying yes you can hate men and be a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:25 AM
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I don't have to like like it. But now I know
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:46 PM
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I mean those are alll basically true. 😂. I've rarely met a hot guy who was told by a girl You're not my type. But I digress a little bit. So I guess you're argument is women should have the right to be vague and we shouldn't complain about it and you're responses men are vague and they complain about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:04 PM
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That's fine. This is mostly for a conversation I was having with another woman. She asked me if I was a feminist and I said no because there's some man haters out there and I can definitely be an advocate for women's rights But feminism as is broccoli allows for the hate of men and I don't want to be identified with any group that's against or silence on issues that affect me. She was swearing up and down that that's not feminism. So I wanted to ask women directly and seems to be I was right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:52 PM
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Not asking women about feminism is pride something a lot of feminists would probably not like to hear lol I chose to ask women a question about something that primarily benefits them and I think that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:48 PM
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Great I remember that going forward that's all I want it and with that information I can go forward knowing that man haters are inside feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:47 PM
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That's still extrapolating something which can still be true but that comes later down the road The answer to the current question shouldn't be dependent on the reason I'm using it down the road It's either a yes or no It shouldn't change off the context of how it used later if you hate men but still think it's okay to be a feminist It shouldn't matter how I use that information because it would be universally true regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:41 PM
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These are examples of at best bad answers but direct answers these are not examples of answering a stated question or responding to a statement with an alternative
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:39 PM
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So how would you answer it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:38 PM
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Do you feel it is the right of anyone within the form to be as vague as they want to be? That solves nothing and only feeds contention So yes as adults were trying to find the best form of communication not scuff at anything that tracks to make things more clear
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:37 PM
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Lol The lady just asked why it's fairness a good thing? Am I understanding you correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:36 PM
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I don't think it was a broad question I think the question itself kind of lends itself to be specific. I think you can interpret it broccoli but the answer is simple it's a yes or no. It kind of goes into what I'm saying is that it doesn't need a nuance answer. For example if I ask can you be a man and be a feminist they would say yes or no. But for this one they feel like there has to be more to the answer when in general I don't think it needs it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:43 PM
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Correct. Before it example the first one is still doesn't answer if you're still a feminist or not. It just says you can advocate. For example I feel like they don't want to give a yes or no questions because both have drawbacks if you say yes you can be a feminist and hate men then that would have to admit that part of the group are man haters if you say no you will disenfranchise part of the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:37 PM
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Oh I wouldn't have mind either way a yes or no It's just something to know going forward. I wholeheartedly agree but sometimes the interpret it subtext it's way off the contextual tree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:35 PM
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The thing is the stated question is still just a stated question you agreeing or disagreeing with a statement or question doesn't automatically mean you agree with the worst interpretation of it. For example saying you like the color green mean that you automatically hate every other color
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:27 PM
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No it doesn't really answer the question The question was can you be a feminist and still hate men. The first one for example seems to ask can you advocate for men and hate them similar maybe but not the same question
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:25 PM

No I think you're not taking the example for Apple's topples to what happens in real life or at least what I'm saying. Leaving your door open happens and if you get robbed because of that and you are a victim and it's unfortunate however if other people in your neighborhood got robbed that same week, there's news reports on this and you live in a rough neighborhood and you don't lock your door then yeah that's a little bit on you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:44 PM
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I'll send you the link in the message. But essentially the message was they were listening to men about giving people a chance I just don't know how men say give people a chance equated to date a 7 ft tall rich basketball player who has a known history. That's not giving someone a chance that's just perpetuating bad behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:45 PM
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You got a a couple of things wrong In the USA at least the least likely type of victim is a woman. By far victimization rates are the lowest between any gender by a large margin. MLMs are multi-level marketing scams. Almost even crazier Is that they get women to try to scam other women and it works. And day-to-day life and you can correct me on this the most unlikely things happen to a woman statistically is safe on any day-to-day the chance of you being victimized by any man is less than catchi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:23 PM
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Oh no don't leave it to just know related things You can do it for female to female relationships. Went to invest, choosing jobs literally everything. I mean you can take MLMs for example there are now movies, organizations facebooks and news articles that say don't do it. But for some reason 75% of the victims are always women. I like what someone said above It's not about trusting men or not. Have better wisdom when choosing the situation involving anything
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:10 PM
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You see what you did there. My words are plainly right there You quoted them yet missed a lot of the key things I mentioned. The words I added to those are actually very important but if you keep them they kind of takes away point of what you're trying to say. You reframed it 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:08 PM
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I don't know if you're serious you don't know the difference between a fraternity and a group of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 09:08 PM
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Nope it was just the more prominent example. Stuff like this happens all the time in personal life It's not like that widespread epidemic but it happens more than enough to work It could be spoken on I know many men and women who make terrible decisions but I feel like men are quick to blame themselves by his women will blame everything except themselves. You don't know what happens behind closed doors that's true but that's the case that they should keep it behind closed doors but at this rate …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:45 PM
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In my specific scenario. This is kind of an offshoot but connected conversation that happened a week or two ago where a celebrity man was found are accused of cheating. Every man knew he was going to cheat he has a history of cheating in his previous girlfriend said he was going to cheat This is specifically for that type of woman If you got with a man and no one saw it coming then you are a true victim but if you got with a man or even a woman and their history is known and bad then that's part…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:40 PM
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Also a very interesting stat I looked up just right now the rate and which college students do sex work is 7% for women. The amount of men who are in fraternities are 7%.. weird that it's statistically lines up like that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:38 PM
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Come on let's be fair and accurate now. I said there's a lot of them there. considering at what I said is not inaccurate got to be a little bit fair when I say that. A lot of sex workers are college or college age women. That's literally part of the reason why only fans got famous That's literally what's at most strip clubs. No , college sex workers primarily work for themselves. It would be more accurate to say that there are a lot of drug dealers who are men in colleges. So not the pimp but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:36 PM
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"That is not a group of college girls. That is an area of desperation and poverty, typically drug addiction." Not to be snarky but have you been to a college before There's a lot of drug addict college girls who are desperate in trying to get out of poverty there. Some of the prostitutes and sex workers are actually college students lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:19 PM
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Yeah it could be rough but I can never personally be mad at someone who's trying to make the best possible decision for themselves. I do have personal opinions about standards that seem unattainable but from what you're saying I mean what is it like 67% of people are into person households are grew up in one or something like that? So it's not too crazy. I do believe that it's not just men telling women this but women too I truly believe that love women are given other women it's terrible advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:17 PM
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I honestly you could not tell you why women would go to an event that other women have been victimized that some, colleges ban, their parents would not want them to go to and that have had multiple natural news coverages on. Can you inform me as to why we went with those of that type of place? And I see what you did there You reframed And that's something I mentioned in the post and I can see why you're compelled to do so. But I didn't but I'm sure you going to tell me that's what I did
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:19 PM
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Nope not what I said at all. The male equivalent is don't think with your penis. It's safe advice that mental each other all the time. You can be attracted to anyone you want but like I would tell any of my friends don't commit to them just because they're hot as hell or your type. Unless you think women are too smart to fall in love with men who are bad for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:12 PM
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I don't know I have a lot of friends who are women and they definitely keep on making dumb decisions In fact they're more likely to choose the bad decision if I advise them that decision that they're making might not be the best. And isn't there the whole trope of the father one to protect the daughter and the mother saying oh she's young but her make mistakes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:11 PM
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I think women would have More trust of men if the men didn't choose to be around them weren't already assholes that they were just attracted to in the first place. But other than that yeah I think you missed the point I wasn't saying don't trust men I was saying don't trust what feels good as the best option
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:10 PM
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To answer both of your points at once: do not go to fraternity parties. I believe women 100% on this. They are known trouble spots, the risk is too high, the documented incident rate is what it is. The same logic applies in reverse for men and red light districts or brothels. Both are places people go expecting a good time and end up drugged, robbed, assaulted, or worse. The advice is identical: don't go. And notice what I'm not saying. I'm not saying every guy in a frat is a predator, the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:07 PM
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You're collapsing two different things. On the cheating example, I didn't say the cheated-on person isn't a victim. I said she isn't a pure victim, because she walked into a known situation with the information in front of her. There's a difference between "you were wronged" and "nothing you did contributed to being wronged." The first is often true. The second usually isn't. On the frat party point, you've actually reframed what I said. I didn't argue that assault victims aren't victims. I argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:00 PM
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I think you're mistaking my post for a different argument. You're describing a woman who held high standards, used discernment, ignored bad advice, and waited for someone who actually met your criteria. That's not a counter to what I'm saying. That's literally the thing I'm advocating for. The men who told you you were asking too much were giving you bad advice. You correctly ignored them. You picked well. You owned the decision. By your own description, you're not a victim of anything, which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:54 PM
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I think what's on the cracks here is that you say you had some control in the outcome to some feels like you're saying all the outcome was on them which is not true And I think you're kind of getting what I'm saying is that the person is doing something harmful. When you are cheating you're setting yourself up for arrest as well as putting others at risk The harmful part for themselves is putting themselves in that predicament in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:49 PM
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For the first thing you're reframing what I said I said specifically fraternities. Let's be accurate and fair about what I'm saying especially when it's directly written. If you're telling me you're going to a hot dog eating contest I'm going to be like okay you're going to be fine. If you're going to a place where it's been the news that people are getting assaulted and that their own members are dying I'm going to be like yeah you probably shouldn't go. I said that exactly. You see how for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:40 PM
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Lol I didn't say any of that. And actually I would say my point is empathetic because it's telling me to listen to other people versus my own experiences in something. A lot of people say they are not good places to go for women. So don't go. You completely glossed over the point that I said yes I went to fraternity events. You're kind of counterproductive to your own point and you're reinforcing mine I can see how you don't see it though but I don't think you're qualified are in the good head s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:36 PM
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I'm stealing this and making a post about it tomorrow lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:23 PM
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Not really, I can understand that my experiences as a man in certain areas might be different from women's. I can just choose to believe what's out there and give advice based off that plus an individual situation. For example could you be friends with a cheater you probably could probably be a great friend. Could you be a romantic partner with a cheater. Absolutely not. Very good faith. And I don't even need to be that nuanced about it I could just be realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:21 PM
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I said nothing about having ho phases specifically You can have a whole phase all you want but you can't be a victim of the byproducts of a hoephase You enthusiastically went into. Men are called out all the time hell even men who are not terrible get flacked for the men who are That's the way things are. Have your whole face but no that you might get called a hoe and treat it like one just like man whores we'll have a reputation that follows them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:12 PM
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I really appreciate this thread specifically You acknowledge the point gave a criticism without trying to defend other men. She however has deflected and reframed the point from taking responsibility for your own actions to men are stupid too. This is like my whole post in action
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:09 PM
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Absolutely is unfortunately . My keyboard caught on fire from how righteous it was
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:06 PM
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I'm trying to find a connection to the original post Is this reframing?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:05 PM
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Sure okay what does that have to do with acknowledging your own mistakes? Deflection at work
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:05 PM
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Well I'mma attack your response from two points I've been to a couple. But not the traditional ones that are known to people I've primarily been to divine nine fraternity events which are a whole different vibe So yes I have. The other way of looking at it is I was safe but if I believe all women, if I believe male victims of hazing if I believe news reports then why would I tell a woman to just go? And also why would a woman go in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:04 PM

I choose about validate both. I didn't set any thresholds to anything You did and I'm just following suit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 11:57 PM

I honestly don't need these women to choose me. The issue is their inability to choose good men makes them self validate that it's all men who are the issue which does kinda ripple through the dating community.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:25 PM

Are you of the assumption that something needs to happen to a majority of a vendor for it to be valid please let me know that now and I can either validate put men go through or invalidate what women go through
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 10:07 PM
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No I agree. Rape at any level is terrible and should be eliminated completely. But at the same time. The rate in rich alimony divorces is higher and almost double actual occurrences. Your point about it being small is not necessary for the debate. It's that it still happens
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:28 PM
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That's still 100,000 new alimony agreements a year. It's very strange that the threshold for what's considered important is always super high for men but as low as possible when it comes to women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:08 PM
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Yes I emotional regulation thing is super true. I can't tell you how many times in my life where I've shared an emotional story and I then had a console a woman based on something that happened to me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:53 PM
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Yes I'm very excited to learn something new and debate and good faith at all times. I don't take it personally if I'm proven wrong. If there's an opinion I don't like I don't take that opportunity to insult the originator. That would be pretty low brow for me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:50 PM
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It's your first point Yes this is true some men have an aversion to it but yet there's been a steady increase in children born out of wedlock. So that means even with women understanding how crappy some men can be The amount of times they're having sex without any type of birth control has only increased. To the second part what I was trying to say is that women have not reacted positively when they themselves have to pay child support or alimony so why do you think they would react positively t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:47 PM
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By what metric? Because our encarceration rates, mortality rates, victimization rates across the board and years sentenced compared to women for the same crime say otherwise by huge margin
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:44 PM
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If there is literally no major repercussions for doing something then you are literally protected from ramifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:39 PM
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I'm going to ask a general good faith question. How can you be so sure that women are not going to Care for the birth control thing? Use another more recent examples The conversations I have seen about when having to pay child support or alimony have not been as enlightened as they want men to be in the same situation so I'm just curious why you would think women reaction to It would be any different from men's behavior about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:37 PM
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There's not One recent case where a woman was shown to beyond shadow of a doubt lied about assault go to jail for it. Perjury is not really prosecuted unless it's felonies. Parental conduct takes years in court and alimony is Definitely gendered the same way anyone can go to jail for taking off a condom during sex but it's primarily a male offense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:34 PM
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Nah. People who insult people on the internet don't get to dictate how other people respond to it. Responding good faith and you'll get good faith responses
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:32 PM
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The comments above me didn't even truly respond They chose to insult me and chose the situation where I'm in the shower. They definitely could do better I'm up for debate but they chose to insult
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:31 PM
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You're actually pretty wrong but almost right about the fabricated claims of sexual assault. Unsubstantiated claims of sexual assaults is not grounds for firing. That's literally title VII. The thing is with him being mentally unstable he could actually believe that he was sexually assaulted. And again I support this guy being held accountable completely and also any other woman who does the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:29 PM
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Sounds like a conversation I'm having here that you're part of unless you're saying we're in the same shower together 😮
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:15 PM
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It's absolutely supported by psychological literature. If you literally Google it there's multiple articles, videos, and education institutions that bring this up as well as legal professionals
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:14 PM
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I specifically argued that men should face the same consequences when they lie about birth control. You read past that and assumed I was silent on male accountability. That's the reframing pattern I keep pointing out. Point by point: On child support fixing the male birth control issue: Child support isn't accountability for deception, it's a baseline obligation that exists regardless. A woman tricked into pregnancy gets, at best, a fraction of what the man earns sometimes nothing if he's low-in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:12 PM
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That's interesting I feel like women demand emotional men but also don't know how to deal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:51 PM
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Unfortunately more often than not it's just true and I don't know why women don't like to hear it but there are plenty of assholes out there that have a lot of very consensual sex. I wouldn't call my self and asshole but there are definitely women in my past who I didn't give my top tier version of care to and they at some points with damn their beg to hang around me. At one point " please make the best healthy decision for yourself and I will not be mad at you but I will never be in a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:50 PM
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Yes, yes you're almost there to the same point I'm making.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:05 PM
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A branch of the main post in the direct coherent response to your replies. I responded about how women do this too. You asked me which post I was talking about. Confirmed give an example. You said a statement about how it was valid. Then I give an example about how things are the same family mention can still be dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:53 PM
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Do you know how women don't like it when men say you should have chose better to women cuz they feel like it kind of flames the woman and the men kind of get away with what they did? Isn't choosing a terrible man part of the experience of going through something traumatic with them sometimes? But you can also see how women still don't like it It's kind of like that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:45 PM
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That one. But I've made other ones in the past about very topics and women absolutely hijack it. and within that Plus you see a lot of women justifying it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:31 PM
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I literally made a post about how every concern that men talk about on your women hijack and talk about rape. Women do talk about their problems women are like shut up it's not as big as ours or say it's just not that important
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:16 PM
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The lady above us litteraly went back and forth on what it meant and it being consistent and different. Different women have gone between it being and insult/ anything that brings women down for male approval, or derogatory
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:55 AM
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If you want I can send you a post I made after this to kind of prove my point. I said it's not Fair to bring up rape when men talk about any type of struggle they have. And the women were like "tough shit, stop raping".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:12 PM
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No because you just said that not all women have the same definition of what a pick me You said exactly " Well I think you are forgetting that not all women agree on who they think is a "pick me" and who is not." And within the comments it goes from what you just said to women who throw other women under the bus I acknowledge to your second answer of the question that not all women have the same definition however I am simultaneously attacking the meta understanding that why are women criticizin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:17 PM
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I get that and I guess in a way it's kind of what I'm trying to expose here because think about this for most professions when you working a profession you are expected to know better than the average person. So when women are the main ones believing and pronouncing that all women are not the same and women are not a monolith I kind of feel like there should be the standard that women should not criticize other women for thinking differently. But I feel like they have this thing where you should…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:02 PM
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To play devil's advocate for both sides I've seen stuff like this. men tend to take things straightforwardly. 'If I do this, she shouldn't be upset.' Very literal, cause-and-effect. Women seem to operate with the assumption there's always more to the situation. More context, more subtext, more meaning than what's explicitly stated. So for exampleWhen a man says "don't date terrible men," women hear "date unattractive men." When women say "all men," we think you literally mean every single man, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:59 PM
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I don't know if I necessarily agree with you. Using the logic that women use when they talk about terrible men this is actually way more specific compared to women usually do. Women say yes all men, men need to do better, The bar is is in hell for men In different variations. Why is it that it's offensive to all women to talk about a specific type of woman whereas women broadly talk about men feeling like we should know they're talking about specific type of man?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:51 PM
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So educate me that's why I asked a question It's in the title of the post and towards the end of the body. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:18 PM
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But wouldn't you say the fact that if you have to form your opinions based off how other women would think of you as a woman aren't you in the way enforcing some type of pick me behavior on its own?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:13 PM
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These are things I've seen and they are not all encompassing That's why I put specifically examples. You can have your own examples if you like
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:09 PM
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You think it's false like it doesn't exist or do you feel like it's not a problem cuz those are two different things If it's still exists on a small level then it's a problem if it's non-existent that means you're dismiss it to some people's experiences. Regardless that's one example that you got stuck on and it's okay if you don't want to participate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:06 PM
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Nope I'm agreeing with you while giving an example when people broadly directly or indirectly include a whole group of people then I can see how people get their feathers ruffled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:52 PM
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Kind of like how women say yes all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:45 PM
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Isn't that the issue of your implying things rather than reading things directly. I mean it's kind of self-containing If you do have a good reason then you shouldnt If there is then yeah keep them away. I think the danger is if anything can come off as a criticism of any type of woman it is considered a criticism of all types of women. And what you said just kind of proves that a little bit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:35 PM
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I won't say the following as an insult or I'll try not to but I feel like women like adding stuff to statements I didn't actually say and I see this a lot in different posts. It's specifically says in my example "if she stays home"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:19 PM
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Okay you don't want to focus on the core aspects of the post? Have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:15 PM
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I didn't say anything about an epidemic. I'm asking specifically about specific behavior within the context and not knowing where is the consistency within the use of it. Is it kind of like how some women call some dudes incels ? Has the word or phrase lost meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:11 PM
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There's no context needed specifically in what I gave you I said" for no good reason" If there is a good reason then yes keep them away. But if there is none then you shouldnt. Example not liking your ex husband it's not a good enough reason. However if he is an alcoholic that would be a good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:00 PM
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Get what you're saying I guess I just often see it more when it's someone's general opinion that includes a man versus them actually saying anything of wanting a result of wanting men's approval. Like I saw one talk about how any woman who keeps children away from their father for no reason is trash. Let's just say The nicest thing said to her was pick me She was called other worse things for something that's objectively not controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:49 PM
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Interesting. Do you see any issue with the fact that some men call other men Sims even though the activity of that person is probably actually mild or even considered to women and not necessarily pandering?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:41 PM
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Is it any woman or any neutral woman because I can think of tons of times where you would put another woman down in a reasonable way. Are do you specifically mean the whole group?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:34 PM
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I wrote about this before and I think you're not really getting what you saying. Just a kind of related back to what I wrote about. Your standard is not a standard if it changes based off who you were talking to. Someone staring at you intensely should be bad regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:02 PM
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Love women that's why I want to encourage them to make better choices and avoid terrible men. Thank you for seeing eye to eye
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:43 PM
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This post is 3 days old. You chose to comment, I'm just responding , took you longer to write your reply than it took me to write the original post. And no, you didn't tell me to date men, you told me to become gay. Different thing. For the record, I do take my own advice . I don't involve myself with women who make bad choices. You walked yourself into the manipulation you're accusing me of. Also, my actual position is that women should make better decisions about men when the evidence is in fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:38 PM
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Yet you chose to make yourself available on my post and invited me to be gay. obviously I mean so much that you had to share your opinion with me. I'm happy to be of service to you And I know you look forward to my responses
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:30 PM
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Already have solid male friends. But it's pretty telling that you rather men become gay than women be encouraged to make better decisions based off the reputation of the men They see. Very telling indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:27 PM
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In which example? I hope you're not talking about the woman who's literally been in the news multiple time with toxic men. Or are you talking about something else specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:16 AM
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Empathy stops when you have deliberate choice. She needs to be warned and she needs to be educated on these choices literally the last person shot her in the foot. She needs an intervention
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:33 PM
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No not at all. I think you missed the point completely and almost on purpose. Why didn't you mention the fact that I mentioned his cheating history I'm using the height the wealth and profession as to why she would dismiss it. You don't have to date anyone you're not attracted to. But you shouldn't date someone with a bad history and excuse it because they are attracted That's the summary of what I'm saying and if you think I'm saying anything else then you're just making your own narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:50 PM
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So you're saying to disregard a cheating history? Isn't that something you just said you were against earlier on in a different stream You can't accuse them in a disregarding cheating and telling women to give again another chance while you are the same time say disregard history
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:42 PM
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Exactly She got with a man who's rich and tall and excused his past
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:43 AM
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I never treated in my 20s or 30s. Why would anyone get a pass on that That is a terrible take lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:42 AM
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No 🙂‍↔️ to your first statement. Second statement answer if you're not always going to know but if your boyfriend or potential lover happens to be a nationally known person who's on the internet with their history known then yeah that can help you a little bit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:55 AM
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Don't need to go deep give me one or two and I'll laugh at them for you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:48 AM
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I don't like to usually play this card but I'd like to see either on here where that's been said or a page so I can legitimately laugh at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:46 AM
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You think that when men let's say of the red pill variety you know the group that is known to not get any girls as asking you to give a chance to the men that get all the girls who are millionaires and taller? You think they were talking about the 7-ft All-Star basketball player versus maybe a more average guy? Come on lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:30 AM
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Literally You can be manipulated and lied to about that. However if they upfront told you that this is the stuff they do then yes it's your fault in a way if it happens to you. I've been in a situations where women got too comfortable and told me something messed up things they've done to previous partners and I immediately cut them off
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:57 PM
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No get infamy for being a con man. Literally in this situation you would have to give them a pass to put them back in their life after knowing what they've done to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:54 PM
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Yeah I don't think that's a valid point you're making at all. Considering that women have opinions about everything men do. There's literally a whole movement about how men should act with them. Everyone has opinions on every gender this is normal This is literally what the feed is about. You can say I'm wrong on the opinion but saying I'm wrong for having an opinion is pretty oblivious to the fact that literally even you have an opinion about men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:51 PM
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You're right I definitely shouldn't believe a woman off hearsay that's on me. I should dismiss the statements for multiple women who said that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:36 PM
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But to answer your question more directly yes I would blame myself if everyone knew you were a con man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:28 PM
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If I came into your life and you knew I was a con and I was a known con. And I have conned my ex's family then yes I would blame myself because the universe is basically telling everyone to stay away from me and you're like I'm going to give him a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:25 PM
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Google Klay Thompson diary
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:24 PM
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I think what they are saying is that women should have the right to take pictures and get remorse when they cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:22 PM
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No you can date anyone you want but when you date someone just because they're super tall while trying to convince yourself it's because of love and you're more likely to get cheated on because you are essentially getting into a relationship with a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:21 PM
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I don't know if Megan nastallion is a good example of this. She is habitually got involved with violent men or married men her last boyfriend shot her in the foot and she lied about even being with him. Women were supporting her for getting with this guy while men was like this is going to be terrible now she's saying men are all terrible because of one guys actions even though that guy historically has just been a cheater. The fact is women will support women making bad decisions and then we'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:19 PM
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She is definitely not perfect. No one is. In fact I'm saying the opposite. A woman like that is definitely showing all her flaws. If history shows us that an individual is nothing but flawed then why would we hope for the best? It's one of those situations where when they got together all the men were like yeah that's a terrible choice and all the women were like hell yeah she found the one. You didn't need to be perfect just like you don't need to be a chef to cook an egg.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 11:09 PM
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It's crazy 🤣 they are saying " we gave the cheater a chance , I give up on men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 09:09 PM
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First message said" Men did something to hurt women somehow women's fault" You made it a little bit broader
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:16 PM
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I don't know man. All of her exes seem like terrible dudes. At best this seems on par for her
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 07:04 PM
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I can probably post you situations where I talked about that a man who has sex with a woman who lies about birth control is a victim if she gets pregnant. And all the women said well he should have chose better. Victim blaming is only victim blaming to women when it's targeting women it seems. This however is not the complaining it's just calling someone stupid for playing with fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:47 PM
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100% untrue. There's literally songs about this. You made me cheat is actually something women say when they're caught cheating. Also an addition with that men are way more or less likely to go online and talk about being cheated on so it's just less likely to happen. But also they literally have phrases like don't try to turn a hoe into a housewife as a warning. And people definitely clown men for p falling in love with a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:43 PM
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😂😂😂😂. I agree with this. I once had a conversation with an exit cuz she got mad at me. She's like I love the fact that all my friends are beautiful. I said that is an absolute lie You only have two beautiful friends. I told her it's okay that not all her friends are attractive. I'm like listen you don't have to call him beautiful to be friends with them It could be beautiful on the inside but don't try to convince me there eventually beautiful. They're nice people and I love hanging out with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:37 PM
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No that's a wording thing I'm saying she should take accountability for her bad choice not the actions no one makes another person cheat no matter how much women use that as an excuse when they do it. I'm saying specifically You chose a situation with all available information leaning towards the fact that he is very likely to cheat. Otherwise it's like saying women have no agency or they don't have any foresight
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:33 PM
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I can totally see why you would choose a parent. Again your choices do not surprised me. Good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:26 PM
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I like how you said the benefit of the doubt. There is no doubt that that guy was a cheater lol. And that's fine. You should have boundaries. But if they change their mind and want to give another man a chance it's probably going to be a cheater then they're going to be out in the forest wishing a bear was there that would treat them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:06 PM
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Yes let's be specific Don't give habitual cheating men who are known cheaters who have diaries of cheating who XS say don't talk to him cuz he's cheating a chance. You are probably specifically proving my point of the post. On her own her choices in men are not that good. This is me saying that the men are bad but also her choices are bad too. The last dude shot her in the foot She needs an intervention of therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:36 PM
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There was no defending what he did at all. That was just one example by the way. But if you choose to go out with a guy who has habitually cheated and said he's a good man and are in love with him then you are doing way more than defending you are perpetuating. That guy is not a good guy to be a partner with. I'm on record saying that you can quote me. Other than that any woman who decides to date him is simply delusional Reading your post again it's strange because that's exactly what Megan did…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:27 PM
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Nope but I know how your logic works
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:18 PM
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You're adding nuance where nuance is not required This is not quantum physics. The man is a known cheater. Like straight up cheater. I think this is why men are blaming her a little bit because at that point you chose a cheater. He himself has talked about loving cheating. He's been called out before for cheating. The same way we don't blame the tiger It's the same way with we don't blame cheaters for cheating it that's what they're known to do. You cannot mentally gymnastics your way into being…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:05 PM
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Yeah I can see that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:01 PM

Nope you're using and optimize scenario where the man is specifically in front of you and the bears just randomly somewhere in the woods. a bear that's 2 ft away and a man that's 2 ft away It's obvious that a bear would be a more threat to you. You want to sound clever and that's okay. So go ahead and choose the bear. I am Not surprised. That's the point I'm making. Making a hyper scenario does nothing but show the fact that women do in fact have a weird way of burning themselves with fire and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:00 PM
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The difference is how do men react to known serial cheaters versus women who date men who are serial cheaters
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:50 PM
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Nope and that's the bad conclusions I talk about in the post. You extrapolated the wrong thing. They are not surprised when they choose someone and something doesn't come out right If it's based off the context they already know about the woman. Have I dated women who were bad for my sanity. Yes, was that an unknown potential never. It's the difference between being robbed and gambling. Gambling you hope you get the best outcome being robbed it's a blind side.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:49 PM
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I wanted to say this in the post office honestly being sad for a woman who to choose terrible man is a dumb choice in the first place her last known boyfriend literally shot her in the foot. She's also dated tons of men who are problematic in their own right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:47 PM
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1 minor example over the overall post. Do you have any things you want to add to the general point of the post
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:45 PM
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No I think you misunderstand me. If you are deceived then you are legitimately deceived. If you have probably available concerns or first-hand facts about a person then you are more to blame. And mess based off my whole post that I just talked about you picking the bear actually goes hand in hand with what I mean. You enthusiastically chose the more dangerous thing. Lol you literally confirmed my post
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:43 PM
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Yhere's a difference between being deceived by new information and deceiving yourself about information you already have. A man finds out his girlfriend's body count was higher than he thought that's discovery. He was given false information, then corrected. A woman dates Klay Thompson who has documented cheating history and thinks 'but he won't cheat on me' that's denial. The information was available. She ignored it. Those aren't the same thing. One is about the woman lying. One is about the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:37 PM
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No it was for this specific situation. But yes also that could be true too of you want to go digger then you should go after I go digger If you don't want to go digger then usually you're surprised when I gold digger happens to appear in your life. But men don't confuse themselves usually about who they're with If you ask a rich man who has a gold digger around him if he truly knows that's what she is He's probably going to say yes he knows that if he stops making money she will break up with hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:34 PM
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Okay this is something I wanted to bring up at some point. But I don't think men are saying don't date attractive guys I think they're saying don't date people just because they're 7 ft tall. There is a stark difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:29 PM
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That's a good choice honestly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:28 PM
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Sure be shocked and that's okay but he's never going to be like this was never in her nature or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:25 PM
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Absolutely, but there are dudes in between known cheater and socially awkward guy. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:21 PM
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Dude this dude had at least like eight women he cheated on and he wrote a diary. And when it comes to certain matters less about giving someone a chance and more about wanting their turn. You're not doing any type of community service by dating a tall millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:20 PM
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Sure absolutely definitely toxic on his own right very hopeful and delusional if you're a guy like this. But you see he still hoping that things can change instead of assuming she's perfect. He's still willingly chose to be with something knowing who she is versus him changing the person into someone she's not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:18 PM
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Subtle difference he still acknowledges who she is and wants to change her not convinces himself that she's someone she's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:08 PM
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This is a picture from Google trends that measures the top trending things in the USA over the last 7 days Klay Thompson is number two If you type Klay Thompson on Reddit it will come with the trending indicator as well. I'm not going to copy and paste the whole internet but you get my drift <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:06 PM
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It's like a trend going on right now online It's come up in real life conversations There's even a sub trend of women saying they're going to cheat on all their men because Klay Thompson cheated on Megan stallion. Mostly love fans and women of color who were upset mostly but it's happening and lowkey it's hilarious Not one man would have been like yes if you want a stable relationship go out with this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:02 PM
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Nope I do not think it's the same actually. And I address it's in the post. There's a key difference I think men usually in most cases know exactly who they're going out with. They can still be side by it but they never fool themselves into saying they were not. I've never met a man who went out with the gold digger and said "but there were no signs"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:01 PM
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Good response but I would say no. Considering that I've said repeatedly and have repeatedly gone to the rescue of women who have gone through some issues is not something they actually have to convince me on. I know there's bad men out there I think most men even some of the red pillars would agree that some men can be bad. I guess the main thought is outside of that does anything else matters
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:14 AM
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Got you That's how I get for posting lol It's very interesting between How women and men read statements. Because when I read some of the statements it seems kind of straightforward not requesting sex but requesting understanding or at least equal treatment. Do you think it's at all possible that some women missinterpret. I know in real life there have been women who have assumed I liked them And I was just being nice. There is this one woman I found out posted about me She called me a nice guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:50 PM
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What is it always come to this I'm actually going to ask you a legitimate question. This is maybe because I have no problem with getting sex really but like I like to see something like women should be f****** us type of post maybe I'm blind to it but are you seeing complaints like that because usually I'll talk about something like and this is a week example " why do women like terrible men over good guys" And then I get responses stop complaining that women don't want to f you. Is it that ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:49 PM
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The rape also is statistically one of the least likely forms of violence that is perpetuating on a woman statistically. So though it has higher rates of PTSD the amount of people who have been tears from that we lowered then the other categories. Again I'm more likely to be killed walking down the street than any woman who walks down the street has of getting assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:18 PM
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As with 99.9 percent of people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:12 PM
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I once talked about how women who lie about birth control should go to jail. I was told that no one should have a baby for free and that's raped to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:05 PM
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I mean this is literally a purple pills everyone brings her opinion page You're just saying that your opinion on how people should answer I should dominate the space.?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:54 PM
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Yes assaults at least by USA standards have gone down. But it does seem like women perpetrators are increasing. Why is that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:52 PM
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Nationwide there's over 2,000 domestic violent shelters, Google how many are there for men. Actually Google how many shelters are there for men in general. Look at who are the majority voter block men or women Look up What percentage of women voted for the current administration. I guess if women were a little bit more sensitive to women's needs they would stop being attracted to and voting for these disgusting men. Putting it solely on the feet of men other than realizing that sometimes women v…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:44 PM
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This is not about gold diggers leaving you alone or not It's the fact that they approach you. There's multiple online and in-person firms about men approaching women when they're not wanted. We don't like being approached by Gold diggers and a couple other types that are toxic so should all people stop complaining about things?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:35 PM
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I don't know how that is a threat unless this person holds political power but let's say it is. Is he consistently applying your own logic to the situation. He is directly giving you an example of how when your logic is applied how it can have disastrous results on the overall well-being. If it is not women's duty to give solutions. If that is applied to other things that men participate in would that be for the better or for the worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:14 PM
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I think what's really strange is that you're kind of doing exactly what I talked about in the post Not every situation is specifically about having sex with women. Have specifically talked about the worst type of woman in those conversations still get brought up. I'll talk about how when women lie about birth control they should go to jail or how first dates always be the most cheapest date or going out with someone just because they are attractive is problematic You should seek depth even with …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:12 PM
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So if I'm understanding you correctly everyone has the right to complain in any space or forum about any other space or forum? And back the internet should not be a safe space for anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:07 PM
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Absolutely you can I never said you couldn't but wouldn't it equally be strange to talk about women's sht behavior in In situation where women are specifically calling out men's behavior? For example if I were on a post about how women say it's weird that some men expect sex on the first date. Wouldn't it be strange for me to bring up how it's unfair for women to expect to give child support to a baby they don't want. Both are very good conversations One is specifically out of forum
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:05 PM
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Yes that is true. There are solutions though. If my problem usually isn't about not getting laid and like I said in the post not every issue men have is specifically on how to get f*****. Sometimes we just think women have shit behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:02 PM
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Yeah if we have a feeling about something and women come out and say your feelings are stupid because this is more important than you specifically say what you might feel has no space. It's like the domestic version of You can't complain because you don't work outside the house Or don't complain about your job because as a manager I have to do more than you Or anything of that nature when say that this is more important that's specifically invalidating women themselves are like a big proponent o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:01 PM
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There is actual bowl solutions domestic violence You have shelters, programs, social services there are so many things including calling the police. There is a solution there There's literally nothing else men can do That hasn't already been integrated within the societal level. I don't know what the topic was to this picture though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:58 PM
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Why is this being changed into another conversation This is so odd lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:56 PM
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That specifically has nothing to do with a lot of things. Specifically it's 62 million visits. For example just on my post I probably opened and closed it maybe 50 times since I've posted. Second it's worldwide. Third That's assuming all of them are men which most likely is not. There were 20,000 individuals who uploaded documents and that's still assuming that it's not some of them weren't staged because it was a porn site and porn is faked often unless you truly believe someone is having sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:55 PM
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It's a monumental problem however One of the least amount of victimizations specifically for women.. But they should have the right to still be concerned about it and have space to talk about it It's not having interject into other spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:49 PM
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The lack of fear from it doesn't mean it should be any less of a general concern. I am more likely to be murdered Then you are to be raped yet I don't go outside with a fear of murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:48 PM
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Sure but also rape is more important than almost any other issue that women go through but women complain about plethora things. So the issue is more honest if you say that you don't like it when men complain not that rape Should be the forefront of all conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:46 PM
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Do you consider all non-rape related topics to be whiny?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:45 PM
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Sound like you're too traumatized from past the experience to have legitimate dialogue
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:44 PM
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It's not always the topic if of making it easier to date or to go on a date with a woman sometimes just the behavior of women. And the kind of brings it back to the other point I date not everything men talk about is related to having sex with women sometimes it's just about being treated well. Give us a chance to be emotional humans
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:43 PM
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Won't let me tag the post but essentially go to any male Post about loneliness on here and in the search bar for search comments type rape or assault and it will pop up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:41 PM
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Those are specifically attacking the point not bringing up a new topic altogether. Terrible example
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:38 PM
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I just made a post that I simply do women believe some of the bad experiences that men go through when dating. I'll talk about gold diggers. Nothing else just if you believe it not necessarily if rape happens but if when a man says something about women is it believed. I had a whole thread talking about different sexual assaults. It was such a tangent that I replied to someone and they replied with a story They directly rejected a question I had so sometimes it's not even a conversation ending I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:37 PM
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The focus on one concern is not that dismissal of another. If that was the case women would also cry fowl when women talk about anything that's not rape-related yet you guys don't
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:35 PM
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Well that was just a conversation about rape while trying to avoid the word so that conversation would be applicable to talk about assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:34 PM
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But often the conversations has nothing to do with forcing a woman to have sex with you or they should be obligated to do something. Usually it's questioning certain habits and holding people accountable to what they do and say
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:33 PM
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It's not. Not even a little bit. Because depending on the topic it doesn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:20 PM
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Comparators are valid within the same category of things I would respect more about comparing two sides within the same issue but these are two different things altogether. If I say to you I have back problems because I work and a office and sit down all day telling me that well at least you're not breathing toxic fumes from the coal mines doesn't really help either of us it just makes it a struggle Olympics and it makes a competition of something that doesn't need to be
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:16 PM
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I also find it very strange that way men talk about issues they have with problematic women women's specifically say you need to fix yourselves and not saying that this is a problem with women. There's nothing a man can do for himself that stops women from being gold diggers if they are gold diggers. There's nothing to individuals men can improve That results in fixing some issues that they might have with women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:40 PM
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Yes as I updated older women swimming around my age and a little bit younger. I would say outside of trying to be contrarian it might just be something it's one of two things your friends are not doing it or they're just not telling you both are equally possible but just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist at least significantly enough to where it's potent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:53 AM
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No one ever thinks it's in there age group or their friends until they're surprised. You know how one of the main criticisms from women is that even though the individual man might be good they know a man who's doing bad? It's kind of like that. It's kind of like we know women get abortions but you probably don't know a lot women personally who have done it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:40 AM
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I think you're actually really close to getting what I'm saying here. And I said this before and I was actually downloaded like crazy a woman who really cares for you sounds no different from a woman who's trying to deceive you at first. I think that's kind of the crazy part about it. Until the switch happens there's no legitimate way to tell the difference. Think about it this way there are some men out there who pretend to really like you and come off as really good guys and then you have sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:01 AM
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Thank you for the opportunity to expound. I feel like a lot of women and some men kind of pseudo santify The problematic people. So for example a woman who is abusive always has a reason to be abusive. A woman who takes advantage of men for money only does it to rich people like there's some type of Robin Hood. Essentially if a terrible woman is going to be terrible they are going to be the most robust form of terrible and justified even slightly for it. And no do you understand that there are l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:36 AM
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It's all of that. The problem is you have high standards for problematic people. Strippers that dm charm, only fans folks and digital pan handlers survive off many men giving a few dollars . Woman's view of a gold digger is a fantasy. There are woman who literally put their cash app on their profiles
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:16 AM
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I mean you would have to bypass the other five or six people included myself that's that congratulations and other congratulatory things. You take advice but device doesn't really change the fact that there needs to be changed internally from other women to other women from certain problematic behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:49 PM
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These women are your friends. It might be hard to believe but they will not admit certain things to you. It's probably not all of them but at least one or two of people you think highly about are involved in these type of activities. There is a woman I met one side of gym who at least once or twice a month ask me for money
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:39 PM
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I address that a little bit but I guess the question is if it's objectively wrong then doing it because the other side does it doesn't make it right. But on the other side sometimes because I'm problems that can depend on certain things It doesn't erase that it still happens. And us choosing these type of women is not the same as specifically looking for these traits and saying we're not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 09:24 PM

Yeah I'm just going to dismiss everything you say going forward and I don't wish to continue talking with you. Seems like you're too traumatized to have a conversation that's meaningful. My post is not even about getting a woman It's about having bad situations with women sometimes. I wish you luck on your healing journey and I truly think you should probably get off the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:56 PM
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That's the ultimate funny part. They're usually people you would consider close friends personally. Why would you consider someone who wants money from other people low class. That's literally people who have fallen on bad times, gold diggers, people who need emergency funds for help, financial manipulators. Have you considered the act of asking for money low class onto itself then your standards are too broad for that category. My specific issue is for gold diggers and manipulators. Remember th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:23 PM
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I am confused on how you think this is a legitimate response to Do you believe the dating experiences men have. Not saying to dismiss your question but like do you legitimately feel that what you said fits into this post or even the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:19 PM
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Jesus Christ lol we're just saying don't be dicks and that women help us out with not being possible to assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:12 PM
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The answer has nothing to do specifically about murder stats. This is just believing if any type of negative experience when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:09 PM
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I appreciate you sharing that. But how does this connect to the original question,do you believe men's dating experiences are real? Because this is about sexual assault, which is different from the dating struggles we're discussing."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:07 PM
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There is no need to talk about taking on risk and dating when the post isn't even about risk in dating. It's about specifically do you believe that men approach any problematic situations with women and dating. It's not a competition yet almost every woman on this feed is making it so. It's literally one of the strangest things ever. I'm over here asking you that men go through problematic things during dating a woman in her like doesn't matter a man might murder you. Two different conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:05 PM
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That's a good faith response I can honestly say women think we want to f*** them every time we don't get our way when in reality we just want more clarity. I once talked about how it's not good for women to just want someone for money. I was approach with responses with me once obligated to f*** you for free. In reality I was talking about shallowness can leave you to be with someone who's terrible. I think a lot of women because they see men as threat they take every interaction as a man trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:56 PM
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You know I always have a little bit of a back and forth about the topic of nuance versus being direct I actually wrote a post on this and it was called problematic in general. But the fact is it can't be both ways. It's either okay to say men are a problem and understand it in a nuance way or to criticize generalized statements like that. The study you're speaking on specifically about dominating the conversation is slightly misleading as it was talking about men and women in the workplace and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:40 PM
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It's the back and forth of how one should complain I've made the same point before in a different post that we should be more specific yet that was pushed back heavily by women. So I guess the question or the core point is should we be more nuanced when complaining or should we be specific
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:36 PM
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Trying to find that comment because specifying who gets murdered the most in dating without acknowledging men get murdered The most overall is such a crazy manipulation But it's crazy to even say
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:35 PM
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I heart counter that this is only an extreme feminist spaces It's literally almost every feminist and non-feminist I have talked to who believes in our says something like this. I swear sympathy I think you might be confusing ongoing support with passiveness. But what it looks like usually is saying "that's their preference"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:30 PM
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I mean to be fair the running mantra of a lot of feminists or outspoken women is that men need to take accountability for the men that are problematic. There's literally yes all men, All men know a man, and Men don't protect women. I mean there are men out here who are now making living s on YouTube setting up pedophiles and beating them up at Walmarts. We're just ask women to not be sympathetic to gold diggers and not encouraging manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:19 PM
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A couple of things I think the difference here is in real life when someone is talking about their acne you're not going to be like well at least you didn't have cancer. The second thing is that means in a way you will never take mens issues as serious because you don't believe it rises to the level of Rape. Which makes it so you are dismissive to men which is not a good thing for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:09 PM
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Men are not a monolith 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:05 PM
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I mean terrible narration is valid but I think we got to look at the impact of what someone is saying. If we going to women's belief that all emotions are valid then and feeling his wife is mean is valid. He could be wrong and to what he's doing he could be the source of the problem but his emotions are valid. Not with me being a contrary in a little bit I've seen women turn men who walk down the street next to him and to creepy monsters who want to assault them in their brains
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:03 PM
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Yes you just proved my point rape is different from sexual assault and victimized victimization from a man can be anything not just sexual assault if you act victimization then everyone has been victimized. You got to be a little bit more specific. In addition to that don't you think it's a little weird that any post when men talk about struggle it's somehow change to a at least you might not be raped mill? It kind of makes it seem like men should not have any complaints
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:02 PM
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This one. There's this big thing in culture right now where women don't believe that men are being used for resources. But as a man who has some money I'm definitely being asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:58 PM
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Asking another group of people to care are to bring awareness or something is literally some of the main point of all movements. Me too and feminism is specifically is about awareness and then societal change for it. Why is it it's perfectly acceptable for women to seek sympathy from the masses yet when men ask for the same thing It's approached by a " Go cry to your mom about it"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:57 PM
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And you did it again. You are now complaining about the same thing You just talked about. And this is not an attack on you it's just showing you how easy it is to devolve into a hierarchy of traumas The thing is the traumas you speak of are not even yours The guy above you talked about his personal experience and you're bring ing hypotheticals and general activity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:52 PM
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Lol. You did a great job. Hope you two are happy and congrats on your engagement
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:50 PM
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Digital panhandling is crazy especially mixed with the fact that I get real life panhandling from women as well. My own therapist thought I was over exaggerating so I started screenshotting all the messages to prove to her help much of a problem it is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:49 PM
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I understand your point of view, I think the only thing I kind of pill is unfair sides essentially every woman talks about rape and yet every woman is not being raped I hope this doesn't come up as dismissive but you can't simultaneously say if men just vented it would be okay but it's the thinking that they have it harder is the problem yet specifically talk about how you guys have it harder and not just vent. I think when everything can come down to being raped it kind of does it soft dismissa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:47 PM
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No that's the difference of it being a widespread epidemic of a whole gender versus the concentrated problem of the criminal few and I think there is a difference in that. According to recent statistics to it's a little bit off but this kind of proves my point a little bit. Maybe I'll let you judge If one in five is a lot Then we would have to admit that as of the newest stats men are going through a lot of domestic violence as well https://www.thehotline.org/stakeholders/domestic-violence-stati…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:02 AM
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Men who don't rape are literally blamed for men who do rape. Somehow is become internal jargon that even though women have no idea who is rapist and becomes victims of it somehow men are supposed to know who rapists are. Literally no one is liking the draft. We call Simps and White nights some of the worst people. Really as a group have a word for a man who is made a father unbeknownst to himself (cucks). The worst of us trying to tell the ugly of us to stop being ugly and to make more money and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:12 PM
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It's directly in the federal database. And that would be almost numerically impossible for 10 to 30% of men to perpetuate that much violence. Have you look at victimization rates that would mean at least if I remember correctly 30 million instances of violence against women in a year. Considering a good chunk of that usually results in someone dying the rate and Richmond would be unlived would be in the millions yet it's only about 5,000 a year. And do you see how it's legitimate problem if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:42 AM
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Yes and I think you're getting to the same point I'm getting. The main question is is generalizations okay or not. I guess the sub question is should women and men be more specific in their words. I have zero problem saying that women are more likely to go out with you just for a free meal if on the other hand I am permitted to say not all men if a woman generalizes a behavior about men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 11:11 PM
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I blame women if they miss obvious signs. Not when they were well deceived. Same for men You think men are out here thinking " bro I know you married a prostitute, and she ran off with your money that was never your fault" nah. Blaming women for bad choices is ironically treating them as equals
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:37 PM
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No. It would be strange for me to want you to take certain issues as seriously as others. But what I would like is to not dismiss issues because it's not as important as other things. I consistently use the phrase nuke to a knife fight because that's what it is sometimes. Men will have real discussions about things like if a woman lies about birth control Should he be responsible for child support indoor should she go to jail if it was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. And someone will come o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:41 PM
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Are you saying that women should do the same thing too when they talk about men? The main post is about consistency so are you saying only men should do that or women should do that too
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:36 PM
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There's a couple issues I have with this statement. The first one being is that you've essentially made a blanket rule that men usually don't have anything to complain about when it comes to women. The second thing is you're saying it's okay to generalize the broader gender based off the legitimate few offenders of a gender. The third thing connected to the second thing is that's only okay when it comes to men. The other issue which you're not saying specifically I think but I have seen as that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:59 PM
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That goes back to my earlier appointment Maybe it wasn't on this string but I mentioned another time Is there a threshold. If 3% of men who convent all the domestic violence make a trend enough to wear women start movements would you consider that too small. But if 30% of women don't want to get married or something like that is that too big. There was a study that said 33% of women go on dates just for free food Is that a lot ? Some studies say that 20% of men lie to have sex with women. 5,000 …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:46 PM
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" PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to r/TheBluePill and r/TheRedPill" I would say partially Yes but specifically to this post no
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:40 PM
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Why does every conversation on here not related to having sex gets turn into something dating or sex related. There's nothing in my post that would suggest I want to talk about dating relations yet every third comment from women in some men is changing it into this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:36 PM
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Exactly.. It's the knee jerk reactions to statements like this that women and men both have the women seem to not understand it when it comes from men used against them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:34 PM
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You're right that context matters. And in that context you're also right that "not all men" can be dismissive of real fear. Agreed. But here's the thing , when men raise legitimate patterns about women's behavior and the response is "women aren't a monolith" that's doing the exact same thing in reverse. It's like saying dogs can be violent and someone responds with "actually cats kill more animals than any predator on earth." Objectively true. Completely correct. But within the context of the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:30 PM
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No I algorithm is Zoos and curvy women. This is real life conversations I've had with the women in my life who are friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:17 PM
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Which part? This literally one of the biggest things in the news. Going to try to complete it by December. Did you honestly not see this I don't know if this is a joke or not
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:15 PM
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Exactly. Leaving children alone with mothers makes them More likely to be criminal offenders. Fathers do a better job of keeping order in the house than others yeah. I can say that exactly Thank you for agreeing. No I can say all mothers do this or I can say that this happens with some others and that household needs two parents. Which one is more fair
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:11 PM
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Contacts of the situation does not invalidate the style of communication. No one is talking about saying that it doesn't happen. We're talking about is it fair to generalize everyone and or is it fair to defend your gender in certain situations to say you have to judge the individuals. There's actually a couple comments by women on this feed who actually talk about the same thing you talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:57 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you. I think you're nearly 100% right The main thing is the hypocrisy in it.. either everyone has the right to say that not all version or no one has the right to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:48 PM
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Next time someone says all women are beautiful I'm going to say women are not a moniloth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:43 PM
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I don't know. Nowadays I hear more women talking about height, penis, and rough sex more than I hear weight size, tightness and being doms
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:35 PM
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Sorry there was a spelling mistake There's no sympathy in any topic. I'm not solely talking about dating I'm talking about nearly anything that men take seriously. Like I asked another person Tell me one legitimate thing that's not dating preference that men advocate for that women take seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:31 PM
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Oh you're going to love my response. Not all men. I've said this before You have stories of men threatening men who date their daughters. You have men who kill pedophiles in jail, people outside of jail who are doing their own versions of to catch a predator, men who have made fortunes off making YouTube channels telling men how to treat women nicely. You have a lot of men who want to treat women exactly how they demand. The work is either largely ignored or the men are considered boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:17 PM
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There is no simple in any topics. There are many post on here and in real life where men who look for sympathy even reasonable ones that are more egalitarian are pushed back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:10 PM
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Yes the point was that the studies they use are a little bit skewed to get a certain result. And that depending on how you ask or frame the questions anyone can come off as a perpetual sexual harasser. In that study specifically is one of the ones where there are some general flaws
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:54 PM
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Accusations are almost never pursued even when blatantly presented as such. Women don't have to petition to make them lehal because as is no one is going to jail for them And at this time 50 to 60% of all cases where a DA is seeking a prosecution they results in jail time/ plea. I don't know where there's 7% is coming from. I mean I can see it if you're counting once that aren't counted. But that doesn't say of society takes it seriously or not. Essentially if you bring your case towards a DA an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:47 PM
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You don't have to get someone drunk specifically to invalidate consent. By current laws if you do anything with anyone and they are drunk and you are more sober you are an offender. And it's not just sexual names that will get you in trouble. It's any type of pet name. Do you see how even with women being the primary victims of sexual harassment, you yourselves sometimes don't know the clear boundaries of what counts? Now imagine asking men, who are socialized to never see themselves as victims,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:34 PM
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Wait. Women who do false accusations have nothing to do with women? Women who do reproductive coercion have nothing to do with women? Men being forced into child support or men not having access to their kids automatically but having to fight for 50/50 sometimes does not include women ? Did you read it too fast or is English possibly a second language nearly all of my examples include women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:30 PM
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Equality is never a problem. Treating or acting as if all men are potential time bombs is. And we can't pretend that having strong beliefs toward s of people is not hazardous and some type of social way. That's what a lot women believe about red pill folks and it is true. Part of their whole thing is once inequality which is always fair part of the issue is that they believe that certain things are inherently volatile specifically to women. That's where it gets disastrous
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:20 PM
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Oh let's clarify something right now I am not disagreeing with you that violence primarily is American I'm disagreeing that it's an all-man thing. Within these topics I feel that sometimes people go between in and out as far it's when it's okay to be nuanced or not. It's like if I said women are 100% responsible for all crack babies the nuance portion of it will be yeah because only women have babies inside them while they use drugs Or if I say the majority of violent offenders and serial killer…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:08 PM
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You're so far is the only fair take. Alongside mine my general thing is is it okay to interject with not all men and women aren't a monolith or is it not. But in general should it be okay to generalize or not. Your take on it not being okay is a reasonable one but even that can be considered as dismissive as a whole pattern
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:35 PM
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I'm not cherry-picking something that attacks the heart of the statement. My argument was about consistency You're bringing in specific things so we're just changing it a little bit. Stats is not something I wanted to talk about but you're kind of guiding it towards that. We're talking about experiences yes the difference between men and women are vast as far as their experiences but that differences shouldn't be the key qualifier of what's considered a threshold or not. Women unfortunately are …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:21 PM
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Actually I scaled it up just to be fair. The actual report says 1% of people are responsible for 63% of crime https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/#:~:text=Among%20known%20risk%20factors%20for%20being%20convicted,%5B11%5D%20and%20in%20general%20population%20samples%20%5B12%E2%80%9314%5D.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:16 PM
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Nobody said it's all women's fault. That strawman at the end is doing a lot of heavy lifting. The point is simple, you just listed circumcision, prison sentences, the draft, and insurance as legitimate men's issues. Great. We agree they exist. Now name the active movements working to fix them. The draft just got automatically expanded for men last week and women are actively lobbying AGAINST being included. Prison sentencing disparity went to the Supreme Court and got dismissed. These aren't pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:05 PM
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I'll dive into this one a little bit because I talked about it with a friend recently.But there are things like statistics, ancedotal experiences and studies about how men like assholes. Women say that a lot of the men they date are terrible. Men will say women like terrible men. Terrible men feel like they have no issues really dating So the only conclusion you could logically get from what women, men and studies say Is that men like assholes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:56 PM
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This isn't a post about safety. This is a post about consistency. Her telling me that women are not safe in certain categories there's nothing to the point of my argument. She essentially bought a nuke to a knife fight. Women are unsafe and certain categories. Within that same category it is true that women are safer than men. When it comes to who are more likely to be victims of men. That's not dismissing that's going deeper into her point. So again when is it okay to generalize a gender What i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:55 PM
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Nope Not ignoring. Women are more likely to suffer from partner violence based on some studies. The statistics are very skewed and represent that fact very well. About 5,000 women are murdered a year in the USA. Now with that being said it's 5,000 the threshold to anything? 5,000 is a very small number or a very large number. Does it skew up or down because it's murder should be doubled if it's not before a man's experience can be called valid as a generalization?. It takes 5, 000 murders to gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:53 PM
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Okay you don't see what just happened there? I gave you an example about how anyone can engage in sexual harassment or be sexually arrest without knowing. I am called sweetie consistently at work My shoulders are touched at work. Periodically as people specifically women walk by me. What I'm saying here is that anyone can be caught in a gotcha but if you were to see these things face-to-face they wouldn't come off as such. Just like the DoorDash girl who swore up and down She was being sexually …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:48 PM
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I don't think a lot of what you just said actually works against the point I'm making. Women sharing experiences they had with men is not a problem. Women demanding things that can affect all men or being vicious towards men at large is definitely a problem. Now within that same take men sharing their experiences with other women should be shared. Wanting things to be better or avoidable the best of realities ability is a good thing. In general I'm asking if dismissing it as a problem at all is …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:41 PM
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Yeah that study was ultra flawed in so many ways. On a little bit of a tangent You can make anyone into a toxic demographic just by wording alone. For example this is a rough one but if you were ever in a club and saw a drunk woman tried to kiss another woman randomly then you have witnessed sexually assault and done nothing. Some some of the studies are very one-sided and methodology Another example by pure definition if I call a woman beautiful or sexy In the workplace or any other pet name th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:37 PM
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Or and hear me out You just walked into my thing You have felt how giving a statistic to something in a response to a general ization is this massive. We did the same exact thing but you only feel yours is more validated. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:34 PM
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Yes you brought something else completely into a discussion that wasn't about the topic and you're being dismissed. Please don't have this discussion here 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:26 PM
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I think you might be kind of right about certain things. The thing is any concern that a woman might bring up is taking more sense seriously than even some of the serious concerns that men have. I want you to tell me a couple of concerns that men actually have about women that are legitimate that women or society take with actual seriousness. Where as women can talk about the most frivolous things from height to responsible financial situations and it's taken as near gospel
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:22 PM
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In the USA. 5,000 women are killed each year, 15,000 men are killed each year in the USA. Just by that demographic men are more likely to be victims of men than women are victims of men. So specifically within that category of offenses you're actually least likely to be murdered in general by men But other than that our generalizations okay or not. I'm not over here trying to do oppression Olympics. Just saying is consistency's one side different from the other side
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:19 PM
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Nope I'm comparing the responses to generalization. It would be very unfair to categorize them the same. I think the title does that well and the body does that too. Is it okay to generalize or is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:16 PM
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You're not wrong. Statistics exist to solve problems, not indict entire groups. That's the whole point. But that's exactly what I'm saying. If "men commit 90% of violent crime" is a valid pattern worth discussing without saying "not all men" then the same standard applies the other way. Women are more likely to kill their children. Women initiate the majority of domestic violence in bidirectional studies. Women are statistically overrepresented in Angel of Mercy killings. Women consistently choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:13 PM
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The post is about certain things being validated more than others within the public eye specifically. you're in a way kind of reinforcing the idea that certain things don't have to be acknowledged but can be said without social context
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:06 PM
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This is not particularly about relationships. But I don't think you could fairly dismiss the fact that women aren't a monolith has been stated very often to almost know that would pushback whereas saying not all men is legitimately a taboo in society. Believing is valid is one thing but you have to at least acknowledge the social impact of each from specific genders
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:01 PM
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I would say look at how deeply women are against male shelters vs women's shelters as an example
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:09 AM
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The stat is a little bit skewed on that because women are more likely to have children and so they go into family shelters. The population is more of a 40-60 split and they're less likely to stay homeless because they're more likely to get housing because they are part of the family where's individual men are less likely to get post homeless resources. However I do agree that you have kids you should be a priority. Forever what I will say with that going back to the main point if Mel's seeking h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:54 PM
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I think it's one of those interesting things and I don't know which came first the conditioning are learning through response. I think in general the boys that we hang out with help us the way we request. But society as a whole hates s helping men in most ways unless they actively proactively working for it. However romantic partners already love us and so it's easiest but if you look at society and look up anything related to men's health, homelessness, depression anything like that you can fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:40 PM

I don't think she realizes how good of a response this is. Regardless of what else she says this is objectively true there's a loud woman who've been through what they proclaim to be traumatic sexual experiences who still go after relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:37 PM
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I think mostly it's romantic loneliness which I can see. I do think overall though female relationships are not as deep as its perceived. And they're very fragile usually this could be excused as when you have a lot of interaction where things are likely to break down but in reality as a man who is friends with love and seeing how their social groups run a lot of them barely like each other but that's their tribe. Yes they go through things together but usually the things they go through are ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:27 PM
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Definition: a mental health condition defined by a long-term pattern of manipulating, exploiting, or violating the rights of others without remorse. Does this sound more direct or emotional behavior ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:06 PM
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Lol. Maybe they do Maybe they don't. One thing I'm not is dismissed and unloved though. I thought of group chats invite list and called upon for advice. Also another thing they can't say is I'm very hard to communicate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:04 PM
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That's a little bit more advanced. And basic households I think it's less of that in more of a timing issue. It's more of a do you do laundry as it happens a load at a time or do you just do all your laundry on a laundry day. Do you do dishes and after you're done eating or in the morning. If you have not flying around that's at least a couple days. That's a problem lol please leave that guy. But only after you've told him directly that you consider it a problem. If it's okay for people to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:02 PM
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This was a while ago. I think you have a tendency to go so deep into the examples without understanding that they're just examples to tie back to the sentiment. And yes we did communicate about it that did not stop her from still having her own feelings about it and not wanting to understand. But are you stuck on the example or are you disagreeing with my premise because examples are not really the issue here it's the premise that my thought is women love the most ineffective communication metho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:39 PM
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Oh thank you very much for asking questions this time instead of assuming. But no not boring at all. At that point I was working nights and we didn't actually have any plans. All my days off I would spend the days hanging out with her we either would go out to eat go to the movies or go visit her parents house. She wanted me to do something in the spur of the moment that I just simply didn't have the energy for which is fine. But it just wasn't that fine to her. Do you want to ask anything about…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:31 PM
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Yes. I don't think I disputed that. You could still Make a choice on how you communicate and still be objectively just bad at communication. Your feelings are your own. I'm talking to no one else has to do with them. But if your goal is communicate and use One of the least impactful options then in my opinion you're not really trying to communicate You're just trying to express blindly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:12 PM
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I think this is a perfect example about how you are responding to what you feel I said versus what I actually said. I never said I canceled plans I just said I didn't want to go outside with her because I'm tired. That sounds like your husband was able to not respect your boundaries and you're okay with that. I can tell you that I love women would not be okay with being convinced to do something they don't want to do. Same thing with men There's actually a big feed about something similar to tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:07 PM
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I don't agree with the premise but I agree with the logic. I see this often. It's weird that it's not logically consistent for women to see how it's inappropriate to say this. Men: I don't want to have to pay child Women: Don't have sex then Women: I want access to abortion cuz I don't want this baby. Pro life: Don't have sex then Women : impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:05 PM
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There's no contradiction there. Women aren't saying I'm weird either. When I'm directly communicating with them however I do make it known that there's a miscommunication they can be direct with me. Is this they choose to not be lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:32 PM
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Let me go through the line of responses as I understood. You asked How does the average man have it worse than the average woman I gave you the answers and the categories and which I believe that. Then you responded with equal rights and I said I agree with what you're saying but they would still be worse in the categories I mentioned. I don't think I'm missing anything here. And we absolutely can say with numbers and logic. You can't feel your way into being worse or better You can say x is les…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:27 PM
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It doesn't, that's actually direct communication of your emotions not emotional communication. So yeah you actually got it An emotional communication would be like I feel like you wanted to hurt me And I don't see how someone who cares me would want to do that. You got it congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:24 PM
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That's true. But still doesn't take away from what I said as well The most suppressive country in the world right now is Afghanistan. They have almost no rights and can be killed almost for anything as long as it's religious. And even with that men still have a lower life expectancies than women and are more likely to be killed and die from other diseases and whatnot. And just to clarify before anyone gets on me women should have equal rights everywhere. Men on average regardless of the quality …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:20 PM
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I would just tell them. I think we're confusing tact with directness There's ways of being tapped and direct. For example it's time for me to go. I would just say that versus I'm leaving now because you're boring. Again direct communication skills into itself is not offensive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:16 PM
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I'll concede it's not exclusive to women. But the argument was never that men can't do it. The claim is that women are more likely to prefer and defend it even when it's clearly causing miscommunication. Which is what makes your response interesting, you admitted your ex did this to you and it hurt. You've lived the damage of this communication style firsthand and you're still here defending it. On intent vs impact ,you can critique someone's impact but you cannot make them responsible for how y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:12 PM
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I've never dealt with a man before were direct communication makes them think I'm weird. If I say amen I don't feel like hanging out this weekend cuz I'm feeling tired I've never been told oh you must hate me lol I don't know what type of communication you're doing to where it's considered weird
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:04 PM
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Dropping to conclusions is something that can be done but I feel like there's a difference between responding to how you feel something makes you feel versus responding based off what you can extrapolate and still be wrong on. If you tell me that you are not hungry and don't want to eat dinner I can have an emotional response and say oh you just don't want to eat with me. That can be wrong Or I can have a logically consistent but still wrong response and say oh you must have been earlier. And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:03 PM
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You said average , specifically average not every single. But yeah we can honestly say that every single man versus woman in the same predicament as best as possible to man will always usually be more likely to face victimization in general not category. Again just to specify you said the average man and so I gave you average specifics
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:59 PM
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Life expectancy, likelihood of victimization, cancers, diseases,
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:57 PM

Nah. You asked me a question. I answered it directly and gave you and example and a nuanced understanding of my reasoning. You asked specifically about gender. So I geared my response towards that. Now if you want to ask me broadly I can tell you that my core argument is a practice what you preach mixed with a rules for me and not for thee. If you believe stealthing is wrong and is a crime you should believe lying about bc is wrong and should be a criminal offense. On the otherside if you are a …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:04 PM

No I think you're falling into your own drop I said specifically in general. Actually gave a breakdown of what I don't accept as an argument. It's very clearly a yes, 🤣 And it was very clearly an example to help showcase my breakdown not a change of subject. Actually go back to the original topic in the response. Did you read the whole thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:36 PM

I mean not to be a smart-ass but they literally are only for men currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:07 AM
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In general I do believe that someone can have a difference of opinion on something not because of gender. But some things are so straightforward and fair that the only reason that can be that way is because of it could I be wrong I can accept that I can be wrong however when it comes to certain topics let's say stealthing If you tell me that it's wrong for someone to take off a condom during sex and that should be illegal I would say yes. But if I say women who lie about birth control should be …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:55 AM

Thank you for taking the time greeting your responses on what you saw is very good but again I must push back a little bit on the whole. Versus practice. If the world were like you think it is they would have made a law in California specifically for reproductive deception and not specifically for condoms.. So I think most people intrinsically believe in their hearts that it's a bad thing but based off the reality of what's actually in place considering that new laws are updated or created and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:16 PM

I appreciate everything you're saying but I think it's one of those things where in theory it's true but in practice is something else. I'm going to send you a link of a post where women were defending or giving excuses as to why this couldn't work. Even though they're excuses can easily be said about condoms. You forgot to take your birth control fine the condom accidentally slipped off they're both hard to prove but once an actual criminal offense in the law https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillD…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:08 PM

I agree with the first part completely. I think the disagreement comes into play with how things are handled even on this post you'll see that some people specifically do not handle toxic women the same way they handle toxic men thus the results and talk to women feeling safer to act out. For example I remember posting something very recently about how women who are proven to have lied about sexual assault should go to jail. More women were given excuses as to why that shouldn't happen then how …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:18 PM
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Here's some counter points. The rate of a false positive or negative is 0. 001 or something like that are 0.01. You are safer trusting of paternity test than you are a condom. Also I think it's very strange that you say that it would cost too much money and then on the next point say they're very very cheap. If we go by what hospitals charge for things being given aspirin is more expensive than what it would cost a high school to run a subsidized DNA test program. In addition with that the gover…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:57 PM
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Thing is what you're describing, The leeway in courtesy give to women is exactly how patriarchy is maintained. So you can't really say you're against the patriarchy as a theory you're just against the court component of it being a benefit to men. Which is in a way problematic. Do I agree that anyone should be targeted for a low level offense no but for us to really move on from abusive systemic benefits we have to equally apply it across the genders. In reality I have great relationships with wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:44 PM

It's not exactly the same thing. It's the non consensual removal of a condom. That is less likely to happen than a woman lying about birth control. As of right now there is no criminal penalty for a woman telling you she's on birth control and You find out she wasn't actually on it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 02:48 AM
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So if someone is willing to hang out with you purely to use you as leverage and they will hang out with you for a long amount of time with no financial payoff what makes you think they wouldn't hang out with a man that they have no interest in for an hour or two for free dinner for the night (+) ?. And I can tell you that ugly woman are definitely taking advantage of sexually as well. I'd recommend you ask a Man they're feelings on it and maybe ask some of your unattractive female friends have e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:22 PM
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No not at all. Just like having sex isn't implying a relationship but some women believe that sex will lead to it. The thing is women will go out on a date with you without any intention of actually being interested in you. Why do you think only men have the ability to waste a woman's time but a woman cannot waste a man's time?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:21 PM
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I didn't say that verbatim but I get the point you're trying to make. And let me ask you a question Is there a woman too ugly to try to try to try and tricl into having sex ? If I were to say only beautiful when you get sought after for sex would that be accurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:14 PM
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Let me ask you legitimate question Have you ever been used by a woman? This is not a godric question or just simply trying to respond but I think there's a big disconnect between how men use women and how women use men. For example if I were to say you're too ugly to be taken advantage of would you believe that to be absolutely fact? If I say men will only want to sleep with hot women would you say that I'm silly or accurate for saying so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:12 PM
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Nope I didnt
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:52 PM
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Why is it that every time us men talk about bad women specifically this somehow changes to hating at all women. I'm starting to think that The women must be a little bit misogynist if we talk about bad women they somehow automatically change it to all women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:30 PM
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They absolutely will. By far nothing is too small
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:36 PM
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Well that's the thing I don't think women think women are human in the nuanced social sense.. again that's why I made the example above like calling a tomato a fruit is technically true but not applied in practice. But to get back to your statement yes women are human They have the infinite ability to do bad things. It went and say anything bad about them women simply usually cannot believe it just like with the gold digger example It's very common that women don't believe that women will take a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:43 PM
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That's a byproduct of any group fighting for anything For example; Those who are racist for example will complain about too many black people on food stamps while they themselves complain about their own being cut for any reason. In general I would say that a lot of the advocacy and feminism can be good things and I agree with a lot of things however there are too many things that kind of directly results and complexity without benefit to men at all. For example I've seen in the last 10 or 20 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:39 PM
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I'm going to assume that you are responding to a different post by accident ? I don't think what you're saying is making sense. Do you need help?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:31 PM
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Where exactly do I say that? A blind spot doesn't mean you have to learn to hate something you don't see. It just means you have to be more aware of it. Why is it that you equate understanding something to hating it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:27 PM
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I've been told multiple times by women that feminism isn't about equality between the genders is to progression of female specific goals. Nothing about feminism as is a racist some of the benefits that women get as a consequence of the patriarchy but instead chooses three enforce it while wanting new benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:54 PM
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The demand isn't the initiator of a healthy market the producer is. I can want anything I want but until someone makes it it doesn't become a viable product.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:13 PM
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Also have to add that this is the most insane take for what someone says. I don't know why women primarily do this and go to that actually wrote about this in a previous post. I said something like It looks like women are doing less time for the same crimes compared to men and women will be " well you men rape women so it's fair". Where the show You're acceptance for female violence and to blow up a conversation. Nuke to a knife fight. Grow up please
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:08 PM
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I think that's part of my argument though Maybe I should specify it but why is it preference when it comes to women but moral judgments when it comes to men for example when you say something like men should just leave women alone they're not there to talk to you etc That's more of a moral judgment on the whole activity then some women like to be approached some don't. Why can't you say some men approach some don't and just not have a negative reaction to it at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:34 PM
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Except we kind of do for a lot of different things. If a man has a daughter he does everything up until murder sometimes to make sure that the man is a good man.. Male abusers get beat up in jail Mel rapist are more likely to die in prison Pedophiles are not safe on the streets or in prison. Pimps pretty much go to jail as well. Porn is becoming more restrictive based off males making it harder to do into aquire. Recently there was a situation where a woman tried to steal from a man and the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:28 PM
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I don't like his argument but his argument is consistent. If you unilaterally make a decision that makes another person essentially without sex as a matter of lifestyle that's pretty much forced celibacy without the aspect of you're actually married. Outside of medical conditions at the very least it is a conversation about why. But with the nature of sex being what it is within society and not necessarily a religious thing you cannot have the soul power of making a marriage sexless while also h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:21 PM
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Ever not seen one time worth the supply to a woman who was saying something objectively wrong usually this woman are just simply not saying the woman is right not throwing the woman under the bus but letting them be responsible for the wrong day actually did.. I once all a woman get called to pick me because that unless something is objectively really wrong with the man there should be no reason why a father shouldn't have 50/50 custody of a child
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:51 PM
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But of doing the right thing as a matter of opinion and preference for women why would it be a moral thing when it's for men? For example if it's okay for women to be cold approached why would it ever be a bad thing for a man to code approach a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:13 PM
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I mean we kind of do for a lot of things I mean in general why would you push back on a man who likes cold approaching then? Why be angry about anything that anyone else does if you don't consider it something that someone else can have a very opinion on and still be healthy why would that only be secluded to women are not for the men who enact on the practice too..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:12 PM
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I hear you and the monolith point is fair in isolation. But I think you're missing what I'm actually arguing. I'm not saying all women think the same thing. I'm saying the same woman often holds different positions depending on where she sits in the equation at any given moment. The woman who doesn't want her man looking at Instagram models is very likely the same woman who has a following of men on Instagram for exactly the same reason. She's not a different person from the woman producing the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:04 PM

I am very confused as to what insults you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:18 PM
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Here's a very confident thing I can say. You looked into all the logistical reasons as to why It cannot work versus if you would support it or not I'm not saying the law has to be enacted right now but the thought of mandatory testing alone scares you. Again the original premises is if you can get on board with it not about the problems it could technically bring up. And it seems like a lot of women on this post have a problem with certain examples I made to the point that they're not even answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:36 AM
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You have some points that I can acknowledge however I don't think we should correlate things that are good for the community with if a politician would push it or not Universal healthcare free education other things is wildly popular but there's a lot of politicians who just won't push it. As far as the raw cost of things between what we pay in the United States realize things they would just tack it on hell if you only do a markup of 20% companies would legitimately make profit out of it. As fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:21 AM
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As of writing down in the United States a DA can choose to put you before a grand jury It is not something that they are forced to do. And no that is not true. Within the realm of people who are known to falsify rape reports the amount of people who are known liars who then go to jail or even go to court for it is extremely low. And when it does happen punishment is usually a year or less. The difference is not if it's valued or not because I believe everyone doing something is valued The issue …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:10 AM
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Well one is kind of necessary to do to the process of what giving birth is. If you agree to it or it happens then you've accepted part of the process. Again it should be a woman's choice if she wants to be pregnant or not. On the other side of that it does nothing for the woman to have a man go through simulations as it will not help or hinder anything.. I don't require any spouse to do back bragging laborious work to show how difficult it is. Just to have an appreciation that I'm willing to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:35 PM
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I mean one purposely inducing pain on another person It's not necessarily . That's why the conversation of if you'll have a baby for me it should be a conversation not a you have to do this But. But the second part absolutely agree everyone should know how to cook clean and fix stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:25 PM
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😂. That's not reasonable at all. But I understand where the thought comes from
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:19 PM
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No I understand that not all people have the same opinions on that It's more like if you have a positive opinion of sex work you should have a positive opinion of consumers If you do not have a positive opinion of consumers you shouldn't have a positive opinion of the workers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:04 PM
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That's why I don't believe and I think I want to clarify something on this This is not in case it's when a man is found innocent This isn't cases where it's overwhelmingly evident that someone lied. I think that should be a key distinction there
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:44 PM
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No I wouldn't even make it like that I would say if it's proven beyond the shadow without that someone lied about being raped then they should go to jail. Like if you find proof that they were setting someone out or you find out that the person wasn't even there like it has to be so blatantly obvious. I would not advocate that a person's found innocent of great that the accuser has to go to jail it's just in situations where it's so obvious which there has been some cases like that And that's ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:44 PM
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I hear you but would not just make it equally fair for all other people who currently don't get a pass or something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:27 PM
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I think that might be a good idea. Issue is and I'm going to announce my bias Is that love women think any type of compromise is mental labor or something that humans just don't do. But I would be willing to try it out to see if it could work cuz it's not a bad idea
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:47 PM
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Agreed and that's pretty much what I'm saying here. But I think a lot of women and I'll say this broadly because the only people who are against this seem to be women is that sometimes you have to remind people and sometimes you have to put structure in what you want. I get the response of people are human that's not how humans work. I'm like yeah I mean technically the way you want it to go is not working so you got to meet people where they're at I've done the same for past partners
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:29 PM
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Oh the one I hate with a passion is when I say something that in theory is not wrong and maybe we clear a lot of things up for example: I've already said that's probably best to make a list of things to do around the house instead of saying it and expecting it to be done immediately. I can't believe how many times I've been called autistic for saying things that therapist would be like okay that's a good tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 06:22 PM
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I think what's kind of weird about that is that there's like a underlying understanding that most things people talk about isn't universally experienced. I mean most men do not beat up on women but I think most men understand that men have the capability of great violence. So it does feel weird when women dismiss something that they have an experienced while wanting us to accept the fact that our gender is responsible for a lot of things that most men don't contribute to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:23 AM
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Loll 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:20 AM
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To be fair a lot of the data is mostly crap once you have investigate the methodology. But yeah I think recycling points without really feeling them is very crappy debate tactics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:04 AM
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The last part is the main part of what you're saying. I find that men truly and honestly do not know that something is up versus women who have a lot more information and should know what's up. For example the freshly divorced man who's young and tells you he just want sex is not going to commit to you but a woman who wants to use us in a woman who wants to love us forever act exactly the same
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:02 AM
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Yeah it seems like women are a little bit interesting when it comes to sexuality. For example I learned from a lesbian friend that lesbians who have slept with men before are treated a little bit differently from lesbians who never
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:35 AM
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I understand that you might think it's not that black and white but it's absolutely that black and white. Otherwise think about it this way men wouldn't have anything to complain about If there were a lot of women willing to date men who were average or short than average or short men wouldn't be complaining about things One of the interesting things about this too is that a lot of women who are dating statistically taller men don't see them as tall they see them as average. There was one of tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:33 AM
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I agree with this for example I'm most recently wrote about how I don't do labor for women I'm dating only for a female friends and romantic partners. A lot of women couldn't understand why I wouldn't help but a lot of women don't understand that women could use men without any intention of romance
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:28 AM
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Lol I give what you're saying. I think we've reached a threshold where it's not everyone who acts like this when it comes to women but it's more than you think it is. I would say that you as a woman probably aren't seeing it as much because when men date women were not looking at height. But who this way If one out every 5 men were blatantly saying I don't date fat women it wouldn't be all men but it would be significant enough to where you would say wow this is actually a problem. This is the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:23 AM
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Oh my god there's this one person specifically I feel like who does that on every single post. I'll be like I don't like it when women ghost you. They'll be like women are not obligated to f*** you lol. I'm like bro I'm just asking for a proper departure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:19 AM
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😂. Yep I've seen that every once in awhile
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:14 AM
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I agree with you to a point and if I can give an explanation to this as well and maybe a contrasting opposite gender thing. I think it's because women support other women regardless if they are that type of woman or not. If I say gold diggers want you for your money and that's bad women who aren't gold diggers will say something to defend them usually might get your money ETC. But also to be fair there is some strong rhetoric right now that even if a man is not a rapist they are in some way supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:13 AM
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Thank you for participating in it. You must align well since you felt composed to participate in it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:01 AM
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This happens a lot even in real life when you say hey this one thing is not healthy then it'll be like so why don't you date a man or you must hate all women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:01 AM
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That one's a tough one if I can give any explanations because some of the things women say are common are just so unbelievable so when it comes down to even some of the smaller things it's very hard to believe that it happens for some woman. I wrote a recent post about how the average experiences are not that bad when it comes to men. We had a good amount of woman saying no every single interaction was bad. Statistically it's unlikely but when people are adamant about impossible things being pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:00 AM
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Oh by other people she would. And the people who would call her that would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:02 PM
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Exactly. This is a very good point. I feel like men have a better understanding of what a boundary is regardless if they follow it or not but I feel for women a boundary is what you're willing to do and not do for them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:15 PM
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women who say they want princess treatment, to be wind and dined, and yes women who say they're celibate yes women are this direct
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 07:32 PM
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Nope didn't say that at all you want respecting boundaries however does include how you react to them. People in the street have told me to lie. Or that I should have pissed out even when I didn't among some other things. You cannot say you respect boundaries if when approached by a boundary you become distraught
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:12 PM
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Look through the post there are people pretty much advocating that I should have just lied instead of telling the truth. There are a lot of unhealthy things I'm seeing here objectively it's wild
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:01 PM
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I don't believe in half lies or white lies to people I want to date
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:57 PM
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Beautiful response and you get what I'm saying exactly I think people miss a point where I said I'd still help with food for her other movers. I was not being antagonistic at all I just didn't freely give something but they don't have an inherent right to and the woman on this feed absolutely have a problem with that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:56 PM
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Okay zoom out a little bit. So if a man is upset that a woman won't have sex on the first date is that respecting boundaries or not respecting boundaries? I think there's a difference between following the boundaries and respecting them In most cases you have no choice but to follow someone's boundaries. Respecting about boundary also includes how you react to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:52 PM
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Yes I think you're absolutely right You can choose to be not of use to someone in any specific scenario for this woman for the moving thing there is no obligation morally or otherwise to be of use to someone to be valid as a human or even a good human. And then the other time I and no point in time or anyone any human women or man or non-binary has the obligation to do something that they don't want to do at a specific moment This is why to flip the script a little bit and make it more gendered …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:49 PM
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It Was Jonah Hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:44 PM
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Why is a boundary being debated? I'm like for many other reasons other than my ability are inability to help someone move a literal house that I was courting, Not someone who's a friend not someone I'm sleeping with just courting. Boundaries don't need to be like they just need to be respected in all cases. Rejection should be okay. I actually think I chose the most perfect example because in the end This boundary didn't produce harm or coerce anybody yet a lot of women and very few men are sayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:15 PM
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That's fine You don't have the same boundary some people have sex in the first date some people don't. Boundaries are not just for sex It's for anything you want to be to be comfortable with your cell phone not forcing another person to do / not Do something for you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:12 PM
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On top of that I do find it very strange that the examples are about boundaries and people are nitpicking on the example versus agreeing or disagreeing with the title itself. I'm saying women don't respect boundaries and they're like yeah but why wouldn't you help her move in the first place 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:35 PM
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I'm confused so in summary is it okay to say no to a partner or is it not? Please be advised that I will go equally for men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:29 AM
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I don't know what you're talking about now. Where did organizations come up? But to try to use your analogy please show me an organization where you do work for free and then get chewed out for not wanting to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:28 AM
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That is totally fine. Absolutely okay :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:15 AM
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Sure and I definitely have I sent sometimes they say Yes and sometimes they say no. Have I been disappointed when they say no yes. Have I tried the guilt trip them and to changing your mind? No because that's rapey behavior and the sign of someone who does not respect answers or boundaries. No means no and that should be respected. I hope the answers your question and if it doesn't please go ahead and give that example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:14 AM
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Oh thank you for replying to this one You giving me a an opportunity to expand. You could actually find the other comment I was referring to. And the original comment I reference I talk about how I didn't want to see my ex's family every weekend simply because I'd rather stay home than to go every week I would go once or twice a a month. In general I have no problem seeing in-laws. However for many people it should be a personal decision. Because that is you're right. But no one has to write to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:58 AM
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No I think we're on the same page. Same exact page You are agreeing with me then Thank you very much You are very smart to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:51 AM
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There's nothing shall about it I mean so let me ask you this sincerely. If women have issues with men who become friends with hopes that it can develop into a relationship why would it be an issue that men have issues with women who treat them like a friend before relationship can form. There is nothing implied there It's very strange that I post is talking about how women don't like when men have boundaries and you're saying that a boundary especially as stated is not coercion and you're saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:07 AM
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In this situation they are not with you at all. And no one ever said anything about controlling someone The boundary itself is how you should proceed in any situation into the purest definition it is that unless you believe all boundaries are subtle form of manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:09 AM
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I mean you're kind of proving the point a little bit It doesn't have to be transactional because it's something you don't have to ask for in the first place. People who are pursuing you for romance should not be in the same category as a friend. I wouldn't absolutely not ask a woman to come over and cook for me or my family, I wouldn't ask her to do my laundry, I wouldn't ask them to do a lot for me because it would be inappropriate to ask them to do something if they are either not my friend on…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:08 AM
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Sure. Regardless no one should be poorly responding. With even on the spectrum of things that still not the worst thing I could have said as a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:02 AM
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No. A boundary is something you do for yourself not for others. But as people are willing to be irritated when people have boundaries as was the woman the person with the boundaries can think this person is toxic as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:37 AM
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Lol. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:35 AM
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Yes and wouldn't you say that people who react poorly to healthy boundaries are not truly healthy themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:10 AM
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😂 guy above you is totally wrong lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:52 AM
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I think you are probably conflating a couple different things as a friend I've helped other female friends move consistently. The thing is as a man there are someone who will take advantage of you and kind of lead you on in hopes for money and labor and it's definitely happened to me So as a perspective potential partner no I should not be doing something that should be a lot of for friends or actual committed relationships just like women sometimes tests men by seeing if they . If you say no to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:19 AM
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Fair enough and it's okay not to like certain boundaries I would say in most situations not liking a boundary would be a red flag for tons of women. I think with the problem is that women have the tendency to want to break your boundaries so I actually wrote about your same examples I don't want to see the in-laws. That's not a problem The problem comes when the wife is like if you love me you would do it. Or if every time you said no it starts an argument. I think this happens more often than w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:13 AM
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It's crazy cuz I specifically put an example down to avoid that this is why I specifically said " example not all 2!encompassing" couple ladies are like it's just one person You're upset about lol Tell me you ladies on here are very strange. You can disagree and I'm fine with that but you guys are nitpicking at and legitimately the wrong thing. I'm up for a good debate but it's like you guys just want to be chaotic which is fine but I just can't take you too seriously when you do that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 12:09 AM
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Absolutely but you would think that the gender who advocates for emotional intelligence, therapy, and healthy boundaries would be better at accepting it. The angle is more about hypocrisy than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:54 PM
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The gender issue specifically isn't necessarily the boundary loving. That gender issue is that women don't think it's a problem for them to respect boundaries because they don't think of men having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:51 PM
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This is why I said all encompassing. In reality I think women even inside relationships do not respect boundaries that much I mean not to the point where it's destructive but happens more than you think. For example I can say that there have been times I did not want to go and exes family house or did not feel comfortable at some type of event. Was it every single time no I love doing stuff. But I can tell you telling a woman no it's one of the most eye-opening things I've ever done. If you love…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:47 PM
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You wouldn't. That's already the main stream thought that men already do. In fact I would say most generalizations on this page do that That's the nature of this subway. The thing is it's kind of the pot calling the kettle black type situation where women think they're not doing anything wrong but they're just as capable and some instances more likely to commit violations
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:38 PM
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Lol multiple women. That's why I said (example but not all incompassing"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:34 PM
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Making excuses for violating boundaries already?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:33 PM
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I mean in general I don't think it is wrong if you want to have sex just as much as it's not wrong for women to believe that a man must be subjected to complaining from their women. I like one quarter therapist said about how men respond to the whole I don't want advice I just went to vent. It is not wrong for a man not to want to hear constant complaining or for them to want to try to fix something especially if in life they are expected to help solve problems. Men or not everyday voice in whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:02 PM
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Please read the title... Jeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:01 PM
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I'm open to getting boob pictures until that comes to fruition. I enthusiastically will start the path to being wrong. The journey is worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:26 AM
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I mean I've never seen a pair of boobs that I was like never do this again. I can compartmentalize things I guess. If it's boobs I like it. That simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:22 AM
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Some of my lady friends right now send me boo pictures and it's honestly one of the coolest things ever lol. No one should be sending unsolicited pictures I just feel like men are less likely to be offended by it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 05:38 AM
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I mean the man in the situation would still act like a man. You essentially have two dudes in the house. You should look up the stats on that It's pretty amazing. But in addition to that we don't go around acting like we call the plumber every week. I've been in my house for 5 years and only called them twice. Also men are less likely to complain when they are raising kids. And you're a man. There's a 50% chance you won't have to work according to statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:32 AM
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It's very true. They're wondering where all the women are at and one comedian said it best. It's kind of wild that a man has to go to a place to get rejected now he can just do that at home for free lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:11 AM
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Seen some of your responses and I have to disagree with one key point. That one has to be a rapist when they are aggressive. There are many men out there who are just jerks without forcing women to have sex. I will give you an example it's not all incompetent but essentially I knew a guy we used to be close friends he was very attractive I mean eight pack not that smart terrible to woman not that he beat them but he would just habitually cheat on them. And the fact is when he was caught he did n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:58 AM
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You strangely do this on every post I see you respond on It was not I to change the subject It was you and I followed your reasoning. The thought on this post is talking about how men would like it if women treated men like men treated women. Specifically within the average cases of what's the average what's good and what's bad. Then you coming here talking about not being taken seriously and judged. Then I make a response about how men are also judged and criticized. Then you would spawn on a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:48 PM
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You want me to not debate on a post I specifically tagged debate !
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:36 PM
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I don't think that's the only thing you're good for. It's probably the easiest thing to get at this time. You're probably having the mail equipment of a man who uses his money to get physical connection. Do I think any less of you for allowing yourself to be used? No is there more potential out there for you ? Yes but it's going to be hard and difficult and you may or may not get something healthy but it's possible. Attraction is tough, I'm a little bit above average and I can have sex almost an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:23 PM
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I want to say something to you that a lot of men never hear.You are worthy of love and connection. For a lot of men those two things don't come together. You can get physical desire without emotional connection. You can get companionship without being truly wanted. But genuine love and genuine desire at the same time is something a lot of men spend their whole lives hoping for and never fully receiving. A lot of men lose weight or grind to make money not because they believe it will make someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:01 PM
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A woman sitting on your face is literally something men want.. badly. And your boyfriend was a dick and that's not average male behavior that would be outlier
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:53 PM
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Literally men get those type of statements from women for forgetting to take out the garbage or forgetting a birthday so that's not true. If we're going by a lot of things women are legitimately upset when men are emotional. We are also called robots. We have the whole " as a man you should" discourse. We have a lot of relationships even if it's mostly good where women believe that men can't do anything correct because it's not the way the women wants it to be. Men experience this from other wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:47 PM
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Number one is awesome Number two is hilarious Number three is acceptable Number four is acceptable Number five is a question that I would say no to and it would just be a no Number six is fine unless you're in a relationship Number seven is annoying but not a deal breaker Number eight is most interactions with women unless you're legitimately in a relationship with them. When you're dating men kind of understand that women out of nowhere can develop the ick It was best not to get attached to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:31 PM
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Well sure. Again this is going off of basic interaction not necessarily a purity test of their whole life That's not what I'm looking for I'm looking for something more realistic on average walking down the street or talking with a random person Do you think you're going to have an extreme predator and angel or someone most likely in between. I think what strange is on this post women are trying to make it seem like every interaction with a man in real life is a deranged one. When in reality peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:28 PM
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You know I think what strange is that when it comes to some of the terms that women use about rude men They act like men aren't like that with other men. I've had chats with men about careers and it went the same way you just mentioned. I've done the same thing to other men. I've definitely talked about things I didn't know a lot on but felt confident about and other men have been that to me. Is it that women are more sensitive to it or that they're only doing it to them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:21 PM
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I think you misconstrued where I said I said the average toxic behavior is not the same thing as average behavior The average behavior of a person is most likely middle of the road does no harm and is either uneventful or not a problem. I am very confident in saying that most of your interactions with men are not this bad very very so
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:18 PM
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I think it would be a interesting dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:31 PM
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Thread versus reality. 50% of the USA is men. You're most likely experience is not this bad I'm very confident in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:58 PM
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Women's dating advice for themselves pretty much suck. Imagine trying to take advice with someone who's like yeah this guy checks all the boxes but he's only five inches taller than me when I wear heels. Where as the most unhealthy self-improvement advice works for men. If you tell a man don't focus on women for a little while you get as rich as he can and work out because these women are shallow you will almost definitely have more success unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:56 PM
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Nothing too so with the point of the post. Woman are still safer but to answer your question. Men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:57 PM
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Yes. Most of them have started with a woman doing some dumb s*** but the man now has to fight over. I can say that with very high confidence that that's usually the case
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:09 PM
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Yet 44% of voting women voting women voted for him. So women enthusiastically found it to be no problem. Showing yet again. A man can be dangerous but a significant amount of woman would not find it to be a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:56 PM
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Kind of question I have is why is it that in this post women are saying men are more likely to be victims because of the risk and that's an acceptable thing to say but you using the fact that women are more likely to be caregivers as a reason why the stats might be skewed? Does it really matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:36 PM
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You're close to being almost right but women are more likely to be victimized by other women in relationships https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_in_lesbian_relationships. So in theory you're safer with a random man then you are dating another woman. You are safer dating a man than you are another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:38 PM
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This is how I make my points on here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:08 PM
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Never, I do it for the love of the game. This whole page is basically opression Olympics. And if you're not first you're last
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:06 PM
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I had to laugh at this because it's so simple
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:03 PM
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Yes they do. But you can't say that because you guys are outliers on a couple of things that overall you're less safe overall. You are less safe and a couple specific things that's undisputed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:53 PM
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If a woman goes to a frat house then specifically is known by the fraternity themselves most feminists and a lot of men who don't want women going to a friend house if she truly a victim of something happens there? If a woman dates unknown abuser and she truly a victim. If a woman goes to a nightclub with alcohol knowing that it will take away her ability to defend herself and properly say no doesn't make her a victim if something happens? When you drink shampoo there is a known risk to what can…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:48 PM
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You know honestly I hear more women say they hate the phrase boys will be boys then anyone else using the phrase boys will be boys as an excuse. Very interesting on this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:42 PM
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Well we get 70% of the brunt of it...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:41 PM

😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:40 PM
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Okay but how does it make him less of a victim? Or why would it count less if so money dies in a dangerous environment? You don't necessarily use stats of women have been abused by I've been violent in the past versus brand new offenders. We also don't say we should exclude stats from nightclubs or frat houses because they should know risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:34 PM
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Literally women by on average 6 years
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:23 PM
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Wouldn't that be the opposite. If women are legitimately less likely to be victimized wouldn't that mean they are the best protectors?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:22 PM
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Are you saying that people can't be considered victims?. And the whole thing about the mother is objectively true it's not false it's backed up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:21 PM
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It is There's a huge difference Men and women both engage in this but I think if we start disseminating men and women victim in situations that were voluntarily I think that's won't look any better
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:18 PM
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Maybe but by pure stats men are mostly to be victims. There's only a few categories were women are higher
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:10 PM
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Your argument primarily only works if you say that there should be a threshold of victimhood. Unless you are saying that the risks or are in an environment that has higher point of risk than you cannot be a victim which objectively isn't true. In general you have to include all forms of of it and even by the broader scope of things women are still overwhelmingly safe. If you make it specific then you are choosing to fit a narrative if you make it broader you're saying overall who carries the mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:04 PM
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Think it's a wording issue I had there I was trying to say that until 1990 It wasn't against the law to rape your wife
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:12 AM
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Oh no. Women have doubled their violence rate since the '80s. That's actually more about right. Men have decreased their violence by 20% these are all wonderful things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:11 PM
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Okay so that means you're arguing for nothing and agree with my post then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:02 PM
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National violent crime decreased an estimated 4.5% in 2024 compared to 2023. Murder dropped 14.9%, rape dropped 5.2%, aggravated assault dropped 3%, and robbery dropped 8.9%. (FBI) Gender breakdown of offenders: Approximately 69% of violent crimes were committed by males in 2023 according to FBI crime da wow that was probably the worst year to observe for women. Again trends are increasing men are becoming less violent. This is actually a win for everybody but it's strange that women are becomin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:35 PM
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I see what you're saying and I will say along your lines that allow abuse towards men is very open but never acknowledged. I have seen more women in public hit men than men in public hit women but I have rarely seen a woman go to jail for it. I think a lot of women have more pride in the abuse they give to men because it's not acknowledged as abuse but more like empowerment. This is not to say that men don't have issues I'm just saying that because it looks different based off culture both are h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:27 PM
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You are not saying anything I'm disagreeing to. So I don't know why you even are trying to debate something I'm not saying this isn't about saying who's the most violent what I'm saying here is that women are more violent than we think. Do you disagree with that or not And if you don't have an opinion on that then you shouldn't be on this post at all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:23 PM
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Women have double their violent offenses since the 1980s were men. Meanwhile male violent crime arrests dropped 51% in raw numbers from 1980 to 2024. That is legitimately surprising and with that being said we've been there still less likely to go to jail for the same offense or get the same amount of length for it. I'm not saying men are less violent than women but women are definitely more violent than we think
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:09 PM
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Overall violence is minimal. It doesn't happen to everyone everyday but within it there are strange things happening the rate in which women are being arrested for vibe an offenses are increasing while the rate in Richmond are violent are decreasing. This is objectively interesting thing to view.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:03 PM
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I think maybe it's a little bit the opposite around but I'm interested in your perspective I think men are very cautious of men. I mean put it this way we tell men not to hit women because they're weak. But often we warn women about other men are to be cautious at least. Or I feel as women sometimes minimize the threat of men they're attracted to and increase the threat level of men that are just unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:02 PM
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Agreed. That's why I framed it that way women are more violent than we think and men are less violent then we think at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:34 PM
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Oh yeah but I think a lot of us will be debate things are going based off of our own countries or region statistics. But even to go into that there is too many ways to interpret things and what happens is things are still gendered or not properly identified or defined. World stats are kind of hard to use because there are some crimes that are not crimes by our standards and vice versa So for the sake of fairness I'm only going to use the USA
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:33 PM
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https://counciloncj.org/womens-justice-by-the-numbers/ The postery thick but these are Google able things
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:29 PM
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I don't know if I fully agree with that If every woman wanted this guy and all the men were like no this guy is definitely cheating and then the women were like you are jealous. Then who's responsibility is it. I don't think men are the best liars as far as when it comes to other men at least. And it's very odd too because for women you almost can't convince them that they're wrong once they have a thought and their head about someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:51 PM
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If you read anything please read this comment. You should look up Derek Jaxon. Earlier in his career as a relationship coach women love this guy. Every man was saying he is toxic and he's a manipulator and he's only telling you what women want to hear. But this didn't stop women from comparing every guy to him and supporting him financially on YouTube. Lo and behold he comes out as a serial cheater. All the men knew this but the women didn't. I think you have to kind of look at it like this. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:43 PM
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Wait what point are you thinking I'm making? Did you read the full post
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:52 AM
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I think we have softer hardlines. Women throw up at the thought of having to compromise with a good man if he doesn't fit 100% of their desire sometimes men are generally attracted to more variety of types but of course still have a preference if they had a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:13 PM
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But you don't have to though. In fact you would have to deliberately choose to become pregnant by your own choice. Baby can't come into life unless you want it to the pregnancy could be unintentional the choice to continue with it is deliberate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:09 PM
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When you have opposing beliefs that's literally contradiction. And of course you can have hypocrisy within anyone. And I would love to see you post something about men's and consistency. I'm curious cuz I will honestly say sometimes men are outlandish but they're not inconsistent for the man who wants to stay at home life they also talk about wanting to be the primary breadwinner there's consistency there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:24 AM
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I hear what you're saying. What also strikes me a little bit is that you claim that no one said some of the things I've mentioned here. So I'm wondering if it's just a perspective of you being a woman and no one would really say these things to you in the first place? But this does happen. I would go to your married friends who have this dynamic and ask them if their husband should still help. I would ask you to Google it and see if any majority opinion is aligned with what you just said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:10 AM
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To a couple of your things. Not exclusive to men but more utilized by women in this generation Maybe it's in the wording but put it this way If there is a stay at home mother do you feel comfortable saying even though you're taking care of the house you should still be providing financially. Versus if a man is to sell income provider is it comfortable to say you should still be helping out around the house There is no discomfort religious agitation. I even said to a woman at one point it was ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:01 AM
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That's kind of not true either. The process of trying to kick someone out you still legally have to give him access to electricity and water and you cannot reduce the quality of their living situation while there. On top of that they can still sue you if you do violate any of those things. But I digress a little bit. The fact is laws can be changed They do often definition of things are changed very often.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:21 PM
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You having a personal belief about something doesn't negate your ability to have choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:56 AM
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I don't get that you're kind of touching on a little bit and this is not to be confrontational with you but how come it's kind of approached like hey you don't get to have a baby for free but the man doesn't want the baby I feel like if you look through this feet a lot of women are like you should deal with what you decide to do and I'm like the dude specifically does not want that and yet you're saying here this is what I did for you pay for it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:41 AM
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That's what I'm saying There's a lot of very idiot women out there just as much as idiot men. No one should be dating idiot people if they can avoid it as best as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:27 AM
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You can objectively just abort. That would be the financial abortion You have also the option for adoption You have two forms of financial abortions available to you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:12 AM
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1.1 at any point you can absolutely reject an invitation however usually would happens in the case of what's commonly then you cannot kill someone as soon as you feel they've overstayed their welcome. And in fact in that situation you would have to depend on the state to remove them for you. In the case that they've been there for a long time you'd have to go through a lengthy process to do so through your local ordinance eviction No now in the case of citizens and rights that's not true everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:24 AM
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I hate this argument because with all things that are paid the customer has a right to reject or throw away certain aspects of it. Equating sex and pregnancy to some type of transaction does nothing for anyone in any type of argument and it's actually groups
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:17 AM
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How do you think some people feel about abortions in general or aborting a child to save your own life.?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:54 AM
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Yes because a significant portion of men who don't pay are in jail for other reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:53 AM
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No pregnancy can occur in the first place of a woman isn't willing to receive the seed. That point about. Having Not the best options doesn't negate the fact that it's still options. I don't know I mean they kind of are right now and be our stressed about it women however keep on having babies with men who are absolutely terrible and end up for the worst for it. I think this. If child support were not mandatory they would be a lot less children Born out of wedlock
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:50 AM
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Yes and no one's saying women can't use diaphragms or be a birth control or get plan b or not get an abortion well in some states partially. But what I'm saying is that there's so many options after the fact and let's not forget this You are consenting to receiving sperm and most cases overwhelmingly sex is not something that happens to a woman is something that they choose to participate in no one saying they don't have autonomy over what can happen and what should happen when it comes to their…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:44 AM
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I feel like there's a mismatch here in your argument One it can't be a trespasser if you willingly let something in your body. Regardless of what happens the invitation was consensual in most cases. Two you can't on one end say that in the case of considering a baby inside your body a person That it's okay to abort it even though it potentially has personhood depending on your beliefs. And if you keep it you can coerce through the state a man to provide financially and to accept some responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:40 AM
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You're forgetting like the whole part about the female reproductive system. And a lot of states you can still choose You have plan b You have the ability beyond birth control you have diaphragms which in all my years of having sex have not approached a woman to have ever used one of them. There are so many options available essentially for when you have sex without protection or with protection and they both fail and however if you want to have a child and the man is like I don't want to be resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:32 AM
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I can tell you as a man that has dated women if you look all right men are willing to do for someone that disrespects them that kind of answers it. I'm in trapped himself with a man who ultimately they hate but find attractive. Child support for some is just revenge
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:25 AM
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50,000 men are in jail because of it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:23 AM
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It's long the same lines I've said in this feed something that I actually correlates with it. If you are an individual that has HIV And you knowingly do not tell that person then that's criminal. If you knowingly have sex with someone who has HIV and then you get it then that is your own fault. If you. I always encourage condoms. But going on diseases side I don't even like meeting up with people if I are they have a cold. However if I knowingly hang out with someone who has a cold and then I ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:30 PM
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But I always found strange is that within these conversations there's always the assumption that the mother has to be broke and that taxpayers have to pay. And I think that's part of the issue here. If you cannot support a child and you want to do so without the express support of the Father and without public taxes then you should not have that right in the first place if we're staying at least partially internally consistent. It seems like every excuse as to why it needs to happen supports the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:26 PM
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Yes you absolutely can. In the case of marriage. Other than that for child support you do not need to acknowledge who the Father the mother just has the name you you can absolutely look it up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:03 PM
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The foundation of an argument is that sex is not something that happens to you in the consensual sense sex is something that you do together so to say that someone else has to have the ramifications of something that's on a choice is insincere. If we decide to have sex together consensually and well-informed than any ramifications of that should be dealt with individually unless otherwise stipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:57 PM
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I think you guys realize how messed up paternity is. There are people defending that even when you're not the father you still have to be on the hook. If a woman just decides to pit your name on a certificate and you didn't know about it you're still in the hook. You have to admit that there is something objectively wrong with that you could be raped you could be lied to you could be a lot of things that you did not consent to and you're still on the hook
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:52 PM
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You can't expect someone else to pick up the tab because you chose to have a kid. That's the thing You can't reasonably objectively if you are on the side of consent to sex isn't consent to pregnancy then that person should be separate from your decision to have a kid. 18 years of being responsible for an adult is a lot if you didn't sign up for it. 9 months creation and then 18 years of responsibility is not as bad if you specifically chose to have that baby
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:50 PM
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Her choice to carry a baby has nothing to do with another person becoming a parent. These are two different things something I do should not affect the decision you have to do what you want to do. These are two separate things that both under the umbrella of choice after an act. If you know the risk of being pregnant and still decide to do it then you should do that independently of someone wanting to be a parent or not
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:48 PM
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It does follow the same logic essentially you're saying that on one side the potential but potentially expected ramifications of sex should not apply to women however you cannot apply that to the broader sense of what can happen to men. Have you are not near or even exactly protected when it comes to sexual acts then sets unto itself has a power dynamic that women could abuse that's protected by the state There's something inherently wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:25 PM
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Single fathers absolutely do better with a quick research it looks like they're half as likely to be empoverty
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:22 PM
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I think in general if I tell you beforehand that I expressly do not want children or have not expressly told you that I want children then if you do have a child then that's all on you. The only caveat I would give is if having an abortion would literally kill you as a known fact. But even in the example there should be no way that if a woman goes through the garbage to get your sperm that you should be responsible for a child It's like are you responsible if someone goes in your garbage can and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:21 PM
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Stealthing is literally lying about a condom and it is considered rape lying about using any type of birth control should be considered rape if lying about a condom which is birth control is considered rape
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:17 PM
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Legally that's not true even though I agree with you for the first part. It goes into what is rape. There's a lot of things you would have to change around that that men can easily defend. For example if you have sex with someone and they lie about birth control then that is reproductive coercion. Equivalent to still thing.. And then to your second part why can't people say that about women who have sex and get pregnant and then want abortions It's not that I'm for or against it It's just you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:08 PM
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The thing about child support is that you are still on the hook for even if you don't consent. The other thing is that remember consent to sex isn't consent to pregnancy forcing someone to become a parent is in general reprehensible. And again going back I am not against people getting pregnant or at the individuals having the choice It's the child support. Your individual decision to advocate or not is personal you however cannot force someone to participate in a choice you made within that bou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 10:02 PM
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You have men should keep their legs closed but they don't either That's why I said add me a smart ass to say that and gave an actual option. I don't want to make child support illegal I want it to be voluntary. And how come women just don't work more There's tons of men who are single fathers they either get food stamps which allow women on child support still get I don't think just work more like the men in the same situations
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:57 PM
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There's not one part of my post that says that at all. Women can still get abortions I'm not debating that Like I said blatantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:53 PM
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If I was a smart-ass I would say keep your legs closed unless you're ready to have a baby, but logically I would say you can still have kids if you want There's nothing stopping you from that if you want a child you should be able to have a child But you just won't be able to enforce the other person to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:52 PM
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Yeah well that's kind of the thing here. What I'm saying is that your individual desire to have a child should not affect the choice of another person if applicable that's really what it comes down to. I'm going to bring up a fringe case example. Let's say you have sex with a woman and these scenarios you would still be under child support. If you use a condom and she grabs a condom and gets to seed and put it in herself, If you finish in her mouth she gets the sperm and puts it in herself, If s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:50 PM
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I'm not debating the right to abort I'm debating the right to not have to provide financially. Men should have zero say over the abortion process.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:47 PM
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15% of child support providers are women so this is definitely more skewed to men. And it's not a biology thing it's a choice thing if women have choice shouldn't men have choice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:46 PM
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I think they kind of go under the same umbrella. Because they have to do with consenting to sex versus consenting to parentage. They go over the state influencing your decisions one way or another and someone else having the rights to exert state control. The fact is an 18-year financial agreement is different from a self-decision to give birth and then raise a kid. I think they have married to be discussed together
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:45 PM
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And that would be their choice to do so There's a lot of things that we find reprehensible however people should have the right to do it if women can have abortions to avoid becoming parents then men should Have the same ability. But it's not even about that It's the fact that the word said to justify one thing or considered terrible things to say when the defense goes the other way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:44 PM
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Here's the definition of bodily autonomy Bodily autonomy is the fundamental human right to self-governance over one's own body, enabling individuals to make decisions about their health, life, and future without coercion, violence, or state interference And I'm not arguing the second part at all please stay on topic I do know that the mother is legally and financially responsible for the child. We agree on that Do you understand what I'm asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:42 PM
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And I say this with sincerity. Truly I think it's very strange that people don't at least see the blatant connection of someone creating a baby in their body to someone who is required and responsible financially under the risk of restricted rights or prison for 18 years plus just because there's no growth inside a person doesn't mean that they're bodily autonomy isn't controlled are influenced under duress
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:39 PM
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I think women have all the responsibility when it comes to childbirth and a whole bunch if not all of the inherent bodily risk that comes with it. Mention not be forced into an 18-year obligation based off what someone else chose to do if they have multiple options
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:10 AM
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Of course with everything there's dynamics that come into play kind of how like some women don't want to be called thick but a lot of people see it as a compliment at the same time. I guess in general considering that nowadays short women will call average and slightly above average men short and refuse that they can because of it I can easily see the connection between calling a woman fat and calling a man short
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:59 AM
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I think women sexually harassing Men is way more common than people think I just think it's underreported and not properly identified. Again we had so many women who believe the woman who went into that unconscious man's house and took a video was not in the wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:13 AM
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What is advocating for taking away free will. I'm advocating for a consistency for societal responses. That's why I outline specifically men don't have a choice in what you do. There's no accident I'm pregnancy the act of sex How's that potential. But what's funny about it is that Western society has many examples that if two people go into a situation willingly knowing what could happen one person cannot be how to countable of an unintended but possible result occurs. That's why when two people…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:19 PM
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I think some of this is based off how you see it and what part of the argument you pick more stock in. For example there is no problem and you having a baby but requiring someone who didn't want the child in the first place to participate is. And I want to say it plainly You having the baby or not is outside of the man's control You demanding that another person participate is at the very least a problem or a valid argument You wanting to have a top-tier man is not a problem but you can still be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:05 PM
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I see this one a lot I have some female friends who do this and don't understand how calling someone a short king is the same thing I saying you're pretty for a fat chick
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:48 PM
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I have seen cheating by women be justified unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:47 PM
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Very solid example! Lord knows I've been through this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:46 PM
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Got it those are very good examples!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:44 PM
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It was a pure question I wasn't implying that you said that I was just curious. No ill intent there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:39 PM
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I specifically outlined lesbian relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:39 PM
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I think that's a good one. Would you say then that women don't have any female primary toxic traits but men do? Or do you believe that everyone has the ability to have the same traits but one gender gets away with it or is encouraged to do it more?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:34 PM
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So why do we call them valid when it's in a hetero relationship at all. If emotions are so fickle I can women demand that they take Preston's over the facts of the moment. Why that emotions lead a relationship if we know they are not reliable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:37 AM

Not true at all lol I actually do pretty well with women. The women with high self-esteem and actually great careers ,people on this sub reddit assume that just because I criticize women it means I'm not successful with them. It's the opposite It's because I am successful with women I am very confused by this stuff they do and say that just legitimately makes absolutely no sense objectively. I was hanging out with a lesbian friend that was talking about how much she hated men even though she nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:54 AM

Bold to assume that women aren't having sex with men who are terrible for them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:45 AM
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For would not be internal pressures versus external pressures? Someone saying if you're going to be gay then you have to be gay this way..... Except the people in the community
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:17 PM
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Definitely worse. But that has nothing to do with varied gendered dating profiles. Two different things that might connect but are not exactly the same
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:33 PM

Again according to therapy psychology and just simple understanding of how people work and should work there is no way that you should be getting into habitually unsatisfied relationships Have you ever telling me like maybe you get into a new one every one or two years Maybe even once every 6 months maybe but lesbians go in and out of relationships consistently within one year and again you can search what I told you search on Reddit or any other website or just talk to your local lesbians It se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:32 PM
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This specific quote has nothing to do with ending sooner It does however talk about more conflict
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:21 PM

Again. We are getting hung up on the breaking up part there was a whole thing that goes with that why are good communicators more likely to go into relationships habitually that will not work in the end myself a great communicator when it comes to pre-relationship talks almost nothing is a surprise once you get in a relationship with me because I would have already talked about it beforehand. I have a lot of opportunities to get into relationships but I don't get into them easily because I know …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:21 PM
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Jealousy. Again those mental barriers of dating women That's worm habits. I guess you would have to ask a gay man if he was suddenly straight or by would he be okay with his female partner being open. With that being said it does seem like bi men are more okay with this. So I guess this is a purely straight habit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:02 PM
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I've heard this before as well. And there are kind of two different points I can bring up here I don't know which one I lean towards The first one is then you would have to say that there is nothing truly wrong and a man that doesn't want to seriously commit The second thing is I don't necessarily see lesbian relationships consistently ending on the positive note
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:59 PM
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So what you're saying and please let me know if I'm stretching too far but lesbian women are consistently dating or better as platonic Friends than they are romantic partners? Does that kind of confirm the fact that these people are getting into romantic relationships too quickly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:57 PM
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That's a very good question actually and I thought about it before you even asked. I think partially it's because frankly as a straight male I'm only conditioned to date women. I know what women like in this like and I am partly conditioned by that. I know that if I go to a straight club and I accidentally touch a woman inappropriately or even do it on purpose that's going to be a big problem So I am making sure that I'm extra vigilant to make sure that I don't do anything inappropriate even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:54 PM

I think a lot of women are getting caught up on the fact that said break up and not my broader point of having so many breakups. Ranking up is necessary sometimes but you would assume that people were more intact their emotions and are self-proclaimed better communicators would either be able to properly fresh out relationships that would not work or be more likely to properly resolve issues within a relationship. In the comments I use the example of someone saying they are very good with money …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:49 PM
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I've responded to this before and honestly if gay men are able to adequately detach emotions and physical needs that results in the overall more meaningful or stable relationship That's a point for it not against it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:41 PM
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By the way my below response It's not against you it's for you It seems like she's reading passages she's feeling and not actually seeing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:39 PM
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How are you quoting things that people are not saying. It's actually a little bit confusing but also right on brand
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:39 PM
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I literally give you a quote from a psychology outlet. If you don't see the problem actually reinforces what I said in the post. Thank you very much your reality proves my point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:36 PM
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I mean sexual minorities still have a gender and they are actually great for showing if certain beliefs survives same-sex pairings. I know it's a tangent but I think maybe you have some critical points there because women in general outperform men when it comes to education. It doesn't mean that the outliers don't matter it means there might be something crucial within the dynamics that allow the outliers to occur
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:32 PM
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Again you're very stuck on the point about breaking up in general people should have the freedom to break up My thing is is if you're habitually breaking up with someone then there is a problem "Habitual relationship cycles, or "churning," involve repeatedly breaking up and reconciling, affecting over 37% of cohabiters and 23% of married couples. Driven by underlying trauma, low self-esteem, or insecurity, these patterns stem from childhood emotional blueprints that cause individuals to subconsc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:29 PM
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I said specifically "You're not getting my main point here It is objectively not a good sign for someone to go in and out of relationships consistently" Can I stand by that if someone told me they were good at handling finances but consistently going bankrupt then I would say they're full of it too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:21 PM
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I mean things I'm saying is stuff you can look up these are already studied things some of these things women in the chats are already agreeing to so you can go ahead and find reports or studies or go to the lesbian Reddit pages themselves or ask lesbian women themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:19 PM
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I'm actually not upset at all. But no you don't have to adhere to traditional values There's no traditional people saying that there must be a masculine woman and there must be a feminine woman in a gay relationship That's not something the intense conservative core traditional folks or out here saying if you tell me that lesbians are being yelled at to be in straight relationships hell yeah because that's what traditional folks are doing. But no externally people who are traditional are not try…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:18 PM
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You're not getting my main point here It is objectively not a good sign for someone to go in and out of relationships consistently I understand in a minor way leaving a relationship when it gets bad but the habit of habitual relationships usually isn't indicator of something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:16 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:12 PM
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I objectively don't think what you're saying is correct. But why would women who are considered greater communicators more often be an unstable relationships why even start a relationship with someone who is more likely to give you instability if you both are great communicators in the beginning shouldn't the red flags and the icks kind of be pre-known. Wouldn't you be able to solve alive issues better?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:11 PM
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You just pretty much did exactly what I talked about in this post and in the comments.b You made certain things look like they're not bad things. And yes there's no outside pressure to be forced into traditional binary roles because it's two women it's not traditional any roles that are enforced are done so internally by purest definition that's like trying to say a stripper is being forced to have a conservative lifestyle inside a strip club. In summary none of your responses really account for…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:10 PM
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That's funny to assume I only talk to people online. I can't tell you how many times hanging out with female friends they're like I hate men. This is not an online narrative This is people in real life This is also lesbians who say this as well. Most women are not There's a few sides every story type people. Little woman came up to you inside this man was following me home Are you going to be like well he must have a good reason? If her friend came up to you and said my husband is a slob or I fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:07 PM
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Completely different things. Because your emotions are something you can literally just choose not to convey unless you're saying against feminist ideology and psychiatry that you just can't control your outburst which I do not agree with. You can feel anything you want have even boners or something you can hide
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:43 AM
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With the example of the boner. Yeah we can have boners at any time we can't control that sometimes but we surely are held accountable for making someone else's problem. Having emotional reactions is fine but when you're conveying it to other people you do have a responsibility to make sure your responsible
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:25 AM
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Using psuedological tactics can derail a conversation just as much as emotions can. It's really not better like you are claiming it to be. It's one of the most common tactics people use to dismiss arguments and avoid accountability. I know like trying to make a conversation out something that's completely off the rails from the initial post
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:39 AM
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I don't know but this is in response to particularly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:30 AM
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She specifically said men think they're being logical and then go off. She did not say some men a lot of men majority of men she just said men so I think I understood her correctly based off what she said specifically To your deeper point Do I believe that there are individuals who proclaim doing logical and who are not logical and actuality yes this is the same argument for why I believe there are women who want communication but suck at it. But also this post was not about logic. This post was…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:20 AM
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That's not a logical person that's a person who's using emotional intelligence. And again you have to understand that even if you're emotionally intelligent or logical very emotional people will try to derail the conversation and to something that makes them feel validated again like this conversation on a post that's about women and how they use communication skills being turned into men and their perceived and accurate use of logic
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:13 AM
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Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:03 AM
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Well considering that I said nothing about being logical in my post and I'm only saying logical and a response to you You're actually proving your point correct You've used the word logic to start a sub conversation about something I didn't even want to discuss but here you are. If you are logical person talking to someone who's emotional you definitely can try but sometimes that just does not work out well for example telling someone to calm down is absolutely the correct response to someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:03 AM
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I think in general someone's able to account for your needs without communicating then That is a good thing but not being able to proactively account for needs It's not a bad thing of that makes sense. It is not a character as well to not know It just mean to simply do not know. And with that if someone is able to do something when you communicate it that is amazing unto itself. I kind of made the analogy it was accrued run but effective. If I as a man ask for sex and I am upset that I had to as…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:48 AM
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I do think men are good at being logical is usually a detriment to their emotions. Usually men will want logic when it comes in there relationships and is very unlikely to be like you should not be logical when it happens. I've seen women want emotionality from men and also demand communication and then throw that out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:44 AM
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I know that study you're talking about It's about power dynamics and gender "Concrete speech may be better suited to meet women's typical communication goals in small groups, and abstract speech may be better suited to meet men's goals of interacting in larger groups." (SPSP) And the more direct one from InsideHook's summary: "Women are forced to prioritize minute, practical and highly detailed speech in order to have any chance of being heard and taken seriously." Meaning women aren't taking se…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:57 PM
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I don't think it's better considering a lot of the problem resolution skills that women talk about usually involves the other person being the more stable person in the disagreement or "just knowing"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:37 PM
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Yes indeed I don't like it when women communicate in a way that's contradicts the way they the man men communicate. No one is obligated to communicate with anyone and the way they don't want to. But as people we should communicate in the best way possible men communicating with each other I wholeheartedly agree with that.. And please take my full title. Women aren't the great communicators they claim to be. And you're just proving my point right now You took part of what I said and not all of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:17 PM
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No you're expressing the same way writing a letter without sending just proves that you are writing a letter. Anger is not the summary of communication anger is the spirit of what you're trying to communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:16 PM
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Lol. sounds like he was dense
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:02 PM
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Yes we're on the same agreement then. Directness is best. It's one thing to ask someone to improve in another to chastise them for not being good at something when you yourself aren't that good at something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:54 PM
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I mean you still question yourself which I think is good The one guy who said hey you might be over sharing did the right thing because that means at the very least something you said he wouldn't want to be shared if he was the topic that you were talking about. There is a certain level of empathy when it comes to what you say and I do think women usually are the main offenders of it. I think the thing here is to have one conversation about what's okay to share and what's not okay to share and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:47 PM
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You don't communicate anything when you're angry and belligerent. I mean one can say that punching someone in the face is communication but it doesn't really tell you why or if you deserved it on either end
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:45 PM
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😂. There's two possibilities here either he was just that dense which is possible or you didn't say what you actually think you said. I'm just going to take your word on that and say that you were direct but I will tell you based off personal experience with women I've dated they've assumed they told me something and straight up didn't. It's like this situation which has happened sometimes. They tell you they're hanging out with some friends come to find out there was a boy there and then they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:44 PM
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It's not the burn eggs themselves are not being able to cook It's the humility of knowing you can't do any better that helps with a lot of things in relationships. I can never escalate with someone on something that I myself couldn't do better on because no way to have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:29 PM
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I'm happy to hear that. I don't know you that well so I won't speculate on you specifically but but I will say is that women still have the ability to share too much They just don't know that they are I personally have been a situation on both sides where a significant other sharing stuff either a they should have already known not to share or be I've told them not to share they just simply forgot and I simply just gave up because I did not have the emotional energy. No I don't think this makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:25 PM
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I guess with the understanding that women are people and they should be given grace why aren't women giving men grace considering they are people. I mentioned this in another comment but it's like the pot calling the kettle black. You can't really say someone sucks at cooking if you yourself can burn boiled water. It just seems like there is something weird there where you can tell other people to be better and it doesn't make sense that they aren't while simultaneously seeking forgiveness becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:18 PM
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I don't think it's necessarily true that men claimed they don't feel anything. I think we are less beholdent to whatever we feel as far as what the common Man. Not disconnected but compartmentalized more often than not. Women have a lot more space to be true expressive for their emotions and thoughts What's up ramifications or concerns. Men can barely play games, be with friends, be angry or be upset without some type of negative response.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:16 PM
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Men are not out here proclaiming they are the best communicators or communicating in the way that women are pronouncing they need men to communicate. Women however are suffering from the case of a pot calling the kettle black when it comes to this topic..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:10 PM
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At least the structure in the house I don't know what you're really asking here for a lot of these things. But usually when they are consequences that helps correct behavior in children. And I am 36. I don't know what you're trying to get at and I don't know if you're on the path to an insult but this is a general conversation which I'm genuinely curious about so let's try not to go there Thank you :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:56 PM
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I've seen Father's take doors off rooms to teach lessons. Regimentally take away cell phones put tracking devices on their children pick them up say the whole day at school embarrassing in front of friends. Spankings confronting other kids parents. I'm not saying that mothers don't do this I'm saying I see you fathers do this more often than others. On top of that I rarely and I'm only saying rarely because I'm not foolish person this doesn't happen at all but mothers definitely be setting up dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:46 PM
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And you essentially would be saying that mothers would be doing the terrible job of enforcing of working fathers edicts?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:36 PM
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Sure but I think there's a difference between a spoiled personality and a enabled person. I spoiled father would probably get you a brand new car but they probably wouldn't enable you to be out late at night at 2:00 a.m. skinny dipping with strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:36 PM
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I can do that next. It you can do it 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:50 PM
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You can Google any of them and they'll come right up You can track GPT them and they will come right up. Also a lot of places on Reddit kind of frown upon link so I usually avoid them but you can Google any one of them and It will show. Or I could just message you directly if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 03:19 PM
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Yes please join me. Spreaded in real life and on Reddit that men deserve to be in the house while a woman go out and work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:18 AM
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Hell yeah I am down for that. No disagreement on that either. Supposedly and I have to look for it again but if you Google it it comes up that father's report more happiness we can stay at home parents. Yes let the women go out and do work. I've repeatedly heard that being a stay at home mother is very hard. The men Should take a turn at doing all the hard work
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:14 AM
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How many majority of men are doing all the hard labor work. And that's okay there's no complaints about that and men are still working in mines technically. I just googled it and it looks like there's 11,000 mines active in the USA. That's not forget the oil rig in offshore and on land.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:09 AM
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Miss.... The whole post has multiple examples. Like at least three or four. They are right there. Right there in the post. This response is kind of ridiculous and I'll give you a chance to delete it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 06:31 AM
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No I don't think it's that simple I think I'm fine when I learn something or have a gap and understanding but this is more like saying someone can never win a game of heads or tails and then you find out they only play with dice. The methodology is not honest the results are but the question is framed to make it more skewed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 02:10 AM
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The question doesn't line up with the data. For example people are believing that for the same job women are making a lot less than men for the same job hours. And because of that there is no new law that can be created to account for that as of right near now there is a law that makes it illegal You any woman has access to sue or make a report but with that being said it will not make a dent because the narrative is that people are making less just because they are women been reality is that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:22 AM
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I mean it can still easily equated. Women take care of kids no one can take that away but men on average are doing the way more physically intense jobs. If I think it kind of evens out. The thing is if you start going into the minutia of things you also have to do it for men too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:22 PM
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L I think there is some type of agenda when it comes to individual groups I mean there are religious studies and specialty group studies that have reports that are definitely based on an agenda they start seeing methodologies. For example but there was a study that said found out that women have better overall quality of life when they are married with two children. Do you think a feminist group would post that even though it would mean showcasing a better quality of life for their demographic? …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:11 PM
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I mean in this scenario she didn't earn any income but still had her needs met
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 11:01 PM
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Logically if someone cannot afford to take care of children they should not be in that person's care primarily unless it's mutually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:58 PM
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That's not a vibe that's a direct correlation that's almost exactly perfect. You're telling me that women make 14% less. I'm telling you based off stats that men work 14% more. It's almost too perfect that's not fives That's just reality right there. You didn't have counter mathematical arguments but you can't dismiss what I'm saying as vibes if the numbers are aligning and I'm sending you a report. Congratulations I think I've beaten you grammatically end mathematically.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:53 PM
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Within the article itself They don't know why this is the case yet. There are actually a lot more studies that say that women live longer than those that say that they do not. The fact is if you're married you're less likely to die in general at any given age, you're more likely to have longevity when it comes to mental acuity as well and there are more important saying that women have a higher life expectancy when they are married Heck if they were divorced they have a higher life expectancy th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:51 PM
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There is a direct correlation within same roles. Between hours worked and how much you get paid So you think how much people are paid is directly linked to how many hours they estimate they work in a day? 😂 You that's how most people get paid per hour. What are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:40 PM
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Sacrificed her earning potential and got things still ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:24 PM
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https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/time-spent-working-by-full-and-part-time-status-gender-and-location-in-2014.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:23 PM
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Married women live longer and have a lower mortality rate actually. Might want to look that up again
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:21 PM
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I'm not sure why she should get more money. She happy years where she didn't have to compete at a job to get her basic needs met. Had children and none of the monetary expenses and benefited from her partners advancements. After a divorce he loses out on that home support. They both technically lose out on something at the very least You cannot say that only one deserve something
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:15 PM
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Do not dismiss the part where I said Men are usually working longer hours. And if you do the math the average difference between men and women working per week is 13 to 15% 😲
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:10 PM
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Everyone is negatively affected in a divorce. But it seems that only women potentially have the chance of getting financial conversation at all. For the average person credit might be deemed a whole bunch of savings might be obliterated life expectancy goes down The worker loses out on someone that was taking care of the household and the woman herself loses out on income from those years but isn't that part of the divorce? Why should anyone get any type of recompense from a divorce and if so if…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:08 PM
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It would just go right back into the man's hand since you technically have income to account for your own financial needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:03 PM
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If you break down every aspect of a stay at home individ ual that's not the same mothers let's just stay individual. It's not that unfair and some cases you're ahead. As an individual you are responsible for half a child half of all your necessities all your wants your housing all of that. Put a number to that right now and someone says I'm going to take away all your financial requirements to live a life handle the labor part of my life. I will pay your half of what's needed to raise this child…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:02 PM
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It does not make sense. Because that's a narrative writing as far as including women in that. For example if I'm going to stay at home husband and I have a wife to works it would make no sense to say you make more than me because whatever she brings in would be going to the collective household. There's not any policy that you can make that would adjust for that it isn't a sacrifice it's an exchange of services. That would be the equivalent of saying retired people are unemployed. That would ske…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:59 PM
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Nope not 100% wrong there and I'll explain it easily That's why I don't think so. First thing I was coming from a very USA point of view. Second thing in that same article when accounting for the same job the difference goes down to an average of 7%. Then you account for what's not spoken on in this article which is hours worked. Men are more likely to work longer hours in almost every country and they are more likely to get overtime and even with that the difference is only 7%. Also within that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:56 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:13 AM
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With all that being said I don't dismiss it being a problem. The fact is in relationships it's kind of a known thing that women talk a lot about personal business and have to be reminded often not to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:10 PM
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I think what you're doing kind of proves my point a little bit I've done nothing but show you things are objectively toxic on its own right and you're like let me give a couple of excuses for this. On your last point these people are mostly shunned from society outside of other rich douche assholes that so happen to be surrounded by tons of gorgeous women and lonely men. For however how much women do not like Trump and Tate. They sure do leave a lot of space for women who cater to trump and Tate…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:52 PM
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That's on me bro. So sorry about that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:31 PM
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Agreed with your second part kind of maids are inaccessible for most people reminders are not the responsibility of the person who needs to be reminded a reminder is almost by definition outside of the individual. Reminders are also not a requirement but when you have to remind someone or have to be reminded that's usually means you've put that responsibility on someone else. It being good or bad is two different things but I don't agree with The wording.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:10 PM
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I don't think you're saying anything I don't agree with The point is asking people what they are sometimes it's not going to work because sometimes they don't even know about themselves that's why I go by what they actually do same thing as what You're saying. I think we're lying on the fact I think we're just disagree maybe and I could be reading it wrong at women aren't offenders and just their own way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:49 PM
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The everyone but not everyone arguments are contradicting each other. If most things that we complain about on here aren't everyone why even complain at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:35 PM
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I never said it out women versus the men. I'm saying women are playing super well within the field of toxicity and they meet or exceed standards based off what park of the field that they are playing and I think when people say everyone I think that it kind of downplays the women's aspect of it because when you think toxic behavior people inherently think men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:34 PM
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I see the point you're trying to make but the kind of go back to the main thing is I think a lot of people don't see their own traits as toxic in the first place. If you ask a man if they are a slob in the house they will most likely say no they're significant other might have a different opinion So I guess if you ask other women if they talk too much about personal issues or do the other things that are mentioned here they're probably going to say no I know right now one friend who tells me way…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:31 PM
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Forgetting to take out the garbage in itself is not a toxic thing It's just task. I think one point I made in a previous debate was very pointed and kind of speaks to this a little bit. A man shaves he'll clean up pride didn't do a good enough job There's one or two hairs on the counter The wife or girlfriend comes home and is very upset makes a huge deal about it and says you're dirty You're this and that I try to keep the house clean and you don't appreciate me. It becomes a moral judgment. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:16 PM
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Very good question actually because I think maybe women and women have two different understandings of how to deal about things I think men in general do vents but we don't talk too much about things unless something can actually be helped from sharing. For example at one point I was pre-diabetic. I had a plan for it already talking to my doctor about it and I shared it with my girlfriend at the time. Her mom called and she was sharing everything with her mother and I was not happy about that an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:05 PM
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I mean I kind of challenge that a little bit I think maybe an older folks maybe but I want you to ask a woman in your life between the ages of let's say 25 and 35 One of their toxic traits and see if they respond in a way that shows they actually have guilt for it and try to work on it or have some actual pride about it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:55 PM
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Okay. It's not a balance those are two different scales One is about personal trust and being unguarded The other one is about seeking next step advises. Both are about how one person reach out to someone. Two different scales altogether It's the difference between saying my partner is insecure about the bald spot versus my husband is in a coma and I need help navigating benefits I can get through the state. Two different things altogether
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:53 PM
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I mean you kind of proven one of the first ones about how everything is generally one-sided There's not one scenario you're like yeah I can see this happening. And what you said about just telling them it's the same thing I say about hey just tell your husband to take out the garbage It's not that big of a deal but women like to say they should just know you shouldn't have to be reminded. I actually find women to be horse narrators because they go off of the feelings of a situation and nowhere n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:51 PM
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No I'm reminding the court issues of things where we are both forgetful and we have to remind each other of things. I think a lot of men can say that women love bringing up personal things and arguments I think we've also said that they love talking and sharing business. This is a major problem as well One is basic home stuff that you can solve with having a maid or just a reminder The other one is about violating trust
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:27 PM

Oh absolutely they are. I don't know how many women you know but you talk to any woman who's into K-pop and you can see the fetishism
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 01:03 AM
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You're right I know I posted. So now you're doing a great job of mansplaining for women and for another man. You're killing it today. No one asked you to post it wasn't an invitation for you particularly though you're taking it like one. Well I'm happy to have you here to contribute. It says it is a debate. However you came with accusations. So congratulations You said a lot and still didn't contribute to the overall spirit of the statement even though you seem to understand that it wasn't debat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:26 AM
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Here WE are bro. Both of us. The women were doing fine making great come back and rebuttals regardless if I agree with them or not. But you chose to interject yourself in a conversation that didn't need what you were trying to add to it. Grade a dude bro performative allyship. Tsk tak
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:17 AM
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Oh man. I don't know if they need me to tell him that but I tell you that women don't mean just two men acting like they know everything about women. Seems like he wanted to be the same exact thing that paper from the opposite spectrum. Kudos and shame on you for white knighting it bro. You got to do better
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:07 AM
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Yeah and all they needed was you a man coming up right behind them to just reaffirm what they already believe. Typical dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:02 AM
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Oh thank you very much for stating your opinion instead of letting women speak for themselves I'm sure that works out great for you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:58 PM
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Nah. There's not one real study in the current reality that says women do not have fetishes. But go off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:47 PM
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Noo. I was equating how old literature is often substandard and you shouldn't believe it. I'm equating the fact that women can't have fetishes is the same as when doctors for using vibrators as a solve for women which was also old outdated medical beliefs. You must have a very traumatic life to go there. I'm so sorry id that's happened to you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:33 PM
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I'm confused about what you're saying or asking
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:23 PM

You said it yourself it becomes a fetish when it reaches an obsessive extreme. That's literally my point. When a preference becomes so rigid that you'll risk your mental health for someone who checks the box but treats you terribly while dismissing good people who don't that's the extreme. We just don't label it that way when women do it. And being sober and stuff like that isn't a rare anomaly also that's a health thing. Look I understand that the line between the preference and a fetish is ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:19 PM
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Yesss I think you're getting it. You're getting the points of what I'm saying..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:11 PM
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The literal Oxford definition form of sexual desire in which gratification is strongly linked to a particular object or activity or a part of the body other than the sexual organs. It is not a requirement for sexual arousal It's strongly linked
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:08 PM
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That is not even necessarily close to being true. That was prevalent maybe an old literature when we were using vibrators to cure female stress. But you on Reddit. There are whole subreddits dedicated to female specific fetishes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:02 PM
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The literal definition of this makes it a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:52 PM
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It has nothing to do with the definition of a fetish at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:18 PM
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So if I came to you to talk about how the state was so terrible and just said this woman had the flattest butt and I assumed she had a wagon you yourself by consistency we're not saying I have any type of problem no fetishes no negative detractors to my personality at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:13 PM
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Yeah I definitely think that height thing for love women meets that threshold. My one specific example that's that's ultra specific I think of a female friend of mine who told me she had a terrible date experience asked her to explain why and she spent 30 minutes complaining about that he What's 5'10 But in his pictures he looked 6 ft. The dude didn't even lie about his height she just assumed and had a disappointing experience not because of what happened but because of the height thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:10 PM
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No that's not the actual definition of the word at all The true definition of fetish is more aligned to what I stand. So you actually just complained about what you're doing. You are using a hyper specific clinical definition at best
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:08 PM
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I mean that goes into a deeper question Do you have to acknowledge it as a fetish for it to be a fetish. If I say I only date women with a figure butts But I don't claim it as a fetish They could be internally true but externally untrue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:06 PM
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Shaming people for not meeting your fetish requirements is the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:54 PM
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I honestly think it's because they make a bigger deal out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:29 AM
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I would also kind of counter to what you're saying by asking if someone truly your brother or deep friend if it requires constant interaction? I know that we're both talking like the other person is that extremes but I know more friendships where they talk to each other everyday that split up over a one-time thing versus relationships that are low maintenance that have been together forever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:02 PM
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I disagree slightly. If you think about it a lot of the things that women and men mention as complaints are common but our physicians as extremes. Women are definitely willing to start an argument over trash not being taken out. Men are out here complaining that they're wives aren't cooking It wouldn't they even selves can cook. I mean if you look at the core of this post of emotional labor you'll see laundry and remembering birthdays as legitimate grievances but they are poised as extremes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:16 PM
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I would debate that's not even two different levels of I think a lot of this stuff comes down to preferences of style of clean. For example I only have towels in the kitchen that I would use for cleaning. Another person might have decorative towels and then cleaning towels. Both are used with the intention of cleaning but if you use a decorative towels someone might be mad. This is not level of clean this is preferences of a comfortable house. They're online examples of this thing like a husband…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:43 PM
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As you should. And if one person is failing are not picking up the slack The first initial response should be can you help me with this versus why don't you help me with this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:31 PM
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I was pretty much saying those things as things that we shouldn't consider mental labor. So I think we're agreeing here. But the fact Is these are mundaned low emotional energy things. Mostly just tasks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:03 PM
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I think that's a point of diffusion right there just because you do it for kids doesn't mean it's not okay for adults for some period If you are living with someone who's inept please stop living with those type of men point blank. If you guys are merging chores please stop considering that mothering someone. I think it really comes down to even how Men look at things. It is not a heavy thing to do stuff for someone you love It's a thing that we are thankful for but it is not something one shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:09 PM
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I don't think there's any research that says advocating for your needs and desires is a bad thing I think there's personal feelings for having to but there's nothing inherently bad about it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:27 PM
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Yeah there's a glaring reason why women who go to OBGYNs and can get pregnant would go to the doctor more than men. Like a very specific reason why doctor's appointments will be more frequent for women who at some point would have to go into their doctor once by weekly for their pregnancy would have higher rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:20 PM
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Interesting. I'll be very curious to be your therapist. I wonder what happened in your childhood we're asking for something as akin to begging ? Seems like your mother was probably too proactive with your needs to a point we're probably communicating was considered a problem. I hope you're not a position where asking for help while struggling is considered a bad thing in your eyes. You totally blocked over the fact I said your father should have been proactive as well. I can't call your mother n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:54 PM
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Now let's get even deeper I don't even send Happy birthday messages on Facebook. And no people don't drift away from me at all. I'm well liked by both men and women in my circle. Have a lady friend who does all these things She has more pictures with women But she's no longer friends with for whatever reason than she does with me. I'm usually people's most consistent friend not because I'm planning every event but because I'm there in the way that matters. And I'm confused on your question a lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:37 PM
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but I am happy ☺️,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:34 PM
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I think we're arriving to two different conclusions. Yes men can do it and they should if it's not a big deal. But objectively a lot of these things are not big deals. Have you asked a man and you put them in a safe space and ask him what he does for his female partner he would list a lot of things some small someday but what I feel men don't do is make the small things seem like big things. Have I had to remind a woman of something yes, haven't had the cal. A woman down ? Yes have I taken woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:30 PM
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That's why I said specifically don't dismiss lovers ETC. But I would challenge you to this ask him If he wants a big extravagant party or celebration or would he rather have something nice relaxing, and intimate and you do that one thing you only do on his birthday?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:23 PM
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I've seen people get legitimately stressed out at these birthday events doesn't happen all the time but I rather do with this guys saying spend some personal time with your closest folks and enjoy the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:20 PM
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In every discipline, religion and study of the world being happy with us is a virtue not an insult so thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:19 PM
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Seriously. This is why I do the dishes every other day. Most of my meals requires at most two pans. How use paper plates during the week or use a regular plate and just rinse it off and clean it the next day. I also have a dishwasher. So simple
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:18 PM
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Jokes on both of you guys I use paper plates mostly 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:15 PM
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Exactly, I would go around telling people that I'm friends with a billionaire. But Loki I like the thought of ranking all my friends and making people fight for the top eight spot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:14 PM
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Well that's kind of what I'm saying They don't have to remind me but if it's the quickest way to solve a problem then yeah remind me. Reminding people to do things is not this ultimate form of Buddhist monk style emotional regulation. I remind people of things everyday. I've reminded lovers of things. I reminded lovers and multiple time within one day that I'm allergic to something. I reminded lovers of things that were important to them. I have never not once been like this emotional labor I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:11 PM
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You should absolutely be helping out with something. I don't know what the lifestyle is currently I totally agree with the fact that someone's doing all the income work that someone should do all the home maintenance work. I've been on both sides of that and never had a problem. But if you're working outside the house and he's working outside the house equally then yes he should be helping
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:07 PM
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Let me ask you a question It's slightly tangible associated with this but I feel like every woman I've talked to you on this fee will do the same thing you just did they'll ask for a specific example and then say that sounds like a personal problem or that's not all women of course it's not all women. It's a specific example It's by definition tunnel vision that exposes a overarching problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:06 PM
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Okay you just said he didn't do not one thing but paying the bills is an administrative thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:03 PM
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Great question. My house is actually cleaner than my female friends houses. I have an ungodly amount of towels. Three sets of dining sets. Three types of vacuums ETC. Cleaning is really not that difficult. Like at all. I even wipe down my walls. Cleaning every day with stressful so simply I do maintenance cleaning every other day and a deep cleaning on Sundays. My garage is messy but that's what garages are for but other than that it's not really a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:02 PM
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What's What's required to be happy as inflationary and I can say that honestly. I just don't require as much for someone to be friends with me. I do not require the same things my threshold of what's in the fence is completely different and they're not associated with forgetting birthdays or birthday cards. I am so easy to be around that people feel relaxed around me I take pleasure to that. I've never had a friend say I must do something to avoid losing this person. Instead they feel I want thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:59 PM

I hope your friends never do you the discourtesy of not being able to please you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:54 PM
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I can't imagine being in a friendship so fickle that unless I do customize interactions then the whole relationship will fall apart. And to also be transparent a lot of my friends are women I've seen them go on whole girls trip spa days and go through major life things together and do amazing birthday things and only lasted for a year or two I'm over here doing basic stuff and the occasional nice gesture and we've been going strong for multiple decades. Performative friendship It's just performa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:51 PM
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But that's the thing I think people have different standards of what preciprocation looks like. And I think that's a big part of the problem If I do something nice for you I actually don't want anything back most of the time and if you do something with me I don't want it to be a big deal. I think a lot of times once a woman does something for a man she wants to be exalted to a certain degree or at least she wants her perception of the impact of her labors to be given back to her. But sometimes …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:44 PM
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Emotional labor is part of it but that's not the summary of what caregiving is. It's like calling work emotional labor, playing a sport, going on a date, talking to the mailman. These things require some emotional interaction but they are Not unto themselves emotional labor
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:41 PM
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Lower standards have a negative connotation. I'd like to say that I know what makes me happy and some women don't like that it requires less than them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:39 PM
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Bro. It is not that serious. I think most men are okay with text messages of Facebook notification or anything like that. Unless you are someone's immediate family it is absolutely not necessary. I think it's kind of weird to tell men that they should demand more or do more than what's required to actually make them happy. Had a friend take me out for dinner for my birthday one time and it was great. Would I have been just as happy if she sent me a happy birthday hell yeah. I don't think we shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:36 PM
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Bring back myspace
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:33 PM
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Men do it their own way and women shouldn't do it for both unless it's a gift or there is near equal burden. I've lived with a woman before I did a lot better I actually planned with vacations, I listen to her problems, cooked her dinner and help her with car issues. I never not once said I do a lot of mental labor. Because those were things I gave willingly or felt she was doing something of equal value for me. Now when she would cook for me which I did enjoy she would make it a big deal that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:32 PM
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That still wouldn't be emotional labor. That's primary caregiving. Your mom Should have advocated for the needs and your father should have been proactive in that. But at the same time I do believe a lot of mothers want things a certain way to the point where when husbands do help they just don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:29 PM
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I think women hover over problems a little bit more than men and so they become more problem in the solutions become more announced. As a single individual once I make an appointment I don't really care about it until a day or two or three before it comes. There have been days that I would forget till the day of. In a relationship I would be reminded consistently that I have a doctor's appointment next week. Cleaning is nearly the same. I don't do any big changes in my house and I'm comfortable …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:23 PM

Never trauma dumped on someone who wasn't ready for it in the first place. That's the other half of it What I'm saying is if they are consenting to it and you believe they are ready for it then you can share. But the simple advice of never do it is not 100% the correct one
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 02:04 AM
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