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What exactly do you feel a woman has to gain by lying about such a thing Why do humans lie ? Power trip, revenge, mentally deranged - any one of those reasons. What do you feel was gained lying in this case where she bashed her own face with hammers? Why do we need to ask? At the end of the day humans can do shit things so we should not just believe everything. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-63793969
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:02 AM
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There are social pressures in everything, women experience it too. But male sex drive is way higher than women's so their obsession with sex isn't entirely socially constructed. It's pretty evident your drive was lower to the normal since you didn't care much about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:06 AM
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Reduction also because likely those people drink far more over a lifetime too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:07 AM
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AI won't do everything in the physical domain only the digital domain. Without enough people we equally won't have the skills needed or the teachers needed or the healthcare needed or the infrastructure maintained. You don't know what you are talking about. A lack of population causes a decline in tax income which decreases business innovation due to both a lack of investors and a lack of customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:34 AM
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You can't have non legally binding dna tests you need consent for a dna test from both parents due to medical confidentially laws
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:00 PM
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Not true many countries require both parents to consent to it. Or a judge can order it in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:20 AM
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Guys care more about muscle than women do. The ideal physique for women typically is just an average guy within a healthy weight range, muscles holds little impact on mate selection for women. Height however is the only physical attribute that has a strong correlation to desirability as does having a deep voice to some degree. Not even chiseled jawlines or symmetrical faces increase correlation in any significant way. A very chiseled jawline can have a negative impact since women perceive it as …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 10:16 PM
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Yes, but that's how you meet people. So are you besties now? Because otherwise your point is moot. Men don't do good at serious social connections. They can talk all day but if it doesn't formulate to a deep social long term bonding it has little value. Small talk is not serious socialising anymore than talking to strangers on reddit. It's good social practice to make conversation but thats all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:13 AM
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I don't know about mixed gendered. Men have to act different around women compared to when they are around just guys. They need male spaces to develop male friendships without women being there imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:22 AM
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Men socialise through online gaming these days which creates very fragile social bonds which don't last, end up finding themselves losing connections as they get older. They spend too much socialising digitally rather than in person. Women still put more effort in face to face socialising.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:07 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9765081/American-men-suffer-friendship-recession-15-not-having-ONE-close-friend.html It's based on USA but it's got a bunch of graphs i suspect it applies to most of the west at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:26 PM
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It costs nothing to go to a bar if you don't buy a drink
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:53 PM
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They still socialise but they do it via gaming which only creates thin bonds of friendships that don't last but it still fulfils their social need in the moment, so they end up losing friendships. I think its the lack of socialising in person thats more specifically the problem. Socialising whilst gaming with your friends feels like it fulfils your needs but only shallow deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:52 PM
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Men report having fewer friends than women but 2 decades ago it was quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:50 PM
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Men suck at making friends even with other men. Women are slightly better at that. And if you have trouble making friends, naturally you will have trouble finding relationships too. For men, a big error is linking loneliness to relationships. They need to prioritise friendships not love if they lonely, but instead they conflate it to basically finding a girlfriend as the solution instead.... so when that relationship ends - they are back to square one. Men make this mistake far too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:33 PM
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No its not its about sexuality. There's plenty masculine men who are gay aswell as feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:06 AM
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Its 100% the definition of gay and to be honest what has any of this got to do with either blue or red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:33 AM
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'he respected her body, as its her choice' Not really applicable if he doesn't want to get back with her because she is sleeping around thats his preference. Most guys typically have the preference of not dating promiscuous women but rather prefer to only sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:57 AM
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Every single reply so far has been people using anecdotes. I swear this subreddit isn't blue or red pill it's just anti science pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:40 AM
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Your anecdote is statistically irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:36 AM
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Your anecdotes is not statistically relevant to the entirety of society. Thats like me saying all my friends had homes in their 20ies so homelessness doesn't exist. You can joke about what ever you wish but statistics show women prefer older guys typically within 5 years and guys prefer young women and the dating / marriage stats back this up in all age demographics and in almost every country.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:35 AM
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Women do not generally date younger, not sure what social circles you're in but its pretty uncommon from most statistics done on it. It might be more accepted but it certainly hasn't become common by any measure. Edit: Would people stop using your personal anecdotes as evidence that the statistical data is wrong this is just stupid and a waste of people's time. It is overwhelmingly evident in almost all countries women date older men usually within a 5 year age gap on average. Women dating young…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:58 PM
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There was a brief moment where women did outearn men under 30 years old the new spread like wildfire but it was short lived and has long since gone back to the normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:31 AM
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If it's our bluff why do women report high rates of unhappiness and lower life satisfaction than men over all ? If they called it, they kind've shot their own foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:52 AM
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If the relationship is serious which i would consider it to be so after 2 years....she decided to just go on a trip without me that relationship is over, its either ride together or not at all in my book. Thats the point of a relationship. If you been together for 2 years even thinking of travelling without partner is just not something that should be in your mind at all if it does the relationship isn't as serious as you think it is or you've never had a serious relationship before if you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:49 AM
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If it's consensual and legal i don't really give a shit what any human does. If people take issue beyond that point, they should focus their energy on lobbying to change the law not wasting time trying to change people via criticism and lectures on morals and ethics. Such acts never change anyone's opinion and never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:31 AM
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Blame what? Men don't want to get married in their 20ies in fact a lot of men don't want to get married generally anymore. I'm not sure what there is to blame? Marriage isn't a necessity. All i am saying is it's not unique to women as per the title of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:12 AM
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Neither do most men to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:32 AM
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Women have different rules for attractive/unattractive men So do men this isn't unique to women. Ugly/fat/old do not get the same treatment as pretty/slim/young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:32 AM
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But is pretty to you the same pretty as men perceive in women? Pretty to most men is feminine, small, cute looking. Does the word mean the same to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:57 PM
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Ehhh the TikTok eboy “pretty boy” aesthetic is definitely in demand for Gen Z girls. Faaaaar more by gay men than gen Z girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:56 PM
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Women who say that don't propose wiping out men or separating from men on some kind of malefree island of amazons. They just don't want husband or boyfriend in their life. Are they somehow obliged to pick a man because they are using fruits of men's labor? No. There has been plenty of research showing a lack of intimate relationships or connection leads to significant health issues in everyone. But it is especially bad in women given women are more emotionally and socially driven, there needs ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:14 PM
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paternity leave exists Doesn't even compare to maternity leave so try being a single father and then get back to me on that one claiming it "exists". ​ concept of toxic masculinity Not really relevant to the topic of the struggles men have in society but on the topic of toxic masculinity women rarely address the fact that the traits involved are not just something men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 09:48 PM
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Then why do feminists who claim to be changing the rules focus only on women's issues, and moan about women being suppressed in a patriarchy when you evidently have it quite a lot better in many respects. Perhaps feminists should stop acting like endless victims as if men are not also.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:38 AM
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Even men hold these double standards on men. I see a group of men walking towards me in the street, i immediately think i might get punched or robbed and get uneasy especially if they young men. I never think this when i see a group of women walking towards me. I've never felt threatened around women ever even if outnumbered because i am so much stronger and bigger than them and statistically they are just not likely to try anything. Statistically men are more likely to be the creeps so our mind…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 01:50 AM
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If sex truly doesn't matter so much Pretty sure its because it matters to a lot of people? Especially guys it seems. Given its the most intimate thing you share with a partner, that specialness is kind've lost if you happily give it to strangers from a drunken night out. It would seem more men view it that way than women do hence the double standards when it comes to body counts. I guess women view that intimacy more to do with connection over the physical act where as men see it more relating t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:50 AM
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It's not defeatist if it's true. Unless you've asked a million women it is defeatist. There is always more women to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:28 PM
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Thanks interesting so you think it is more that men unhealthily might form self esteem over women and dating? Yes. Not sure why they do, i always found it very odd and not very masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 09:48 PM
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How can low self esteem cause a lack of interest from women? Because it kills confidence, your self worth and increases depressive mood. Which means you lose motivation to try under the defeatist mindset of "what's the point, no one will want me anyway!". By interest i mean, not actively trying to pursue a woman. You might still find women attractive but you lost all energy to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 09:46 PM
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Yes but one must occur before the other. I am certain low self esteem occurs first. If you have a great life regardless of your situation with women and have good self esteem you'll automatically attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 09:44 PM
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Sorry but thats just pathetic. I don't respect guys who place women at the center of their wellbeing, i just find that creepy as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 09:42 PM
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No, I think he has it right. When I had no female attention, I felt like shit Then i mean this as kindly as possible, you need a damn life. And stop putting women as such an important part of your wellbeing. If you have a great life you will feel great regardless of your situation with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 09:37 PM
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I'd say yes. I've never had much interest from women so naturally, my self-esteem is low. Maybe you have that backwards. Low self esteem leads to low interest in women. Rather than low interest in women led to low self esteem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:55 AM
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I personally do not but many men do based on their ability to get women. Which i have always found hilariously pathetic. My self worth comes from my skills, education, health, successes and talents i've accumulated over the years. And my economic standing as i am doing well for myself in my career. I don't need a woman to validate it. I would not be surprised if women find it unattractive if guys use women for their own self esteem...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:50 AM
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Of course, why wouldn't they know before the first date? Well then they probably just thinking your showing off your wealth. I prefer to hide mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:54 AM
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I wish to god there was a dating app that was all nerdy women that liked to play Smash Bros. They usually have a relationship though and are not on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:53 AM
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Good for you i guess? Irrelevant though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:53 AM
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Not at all. Just pointing out that you cannot buy attraction. I'm a doctor with millions in the bank/investments. But do they know that, unlikely until after a few dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:24 AM
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No this indicates they have no hobbies. Travel is not a hobby everyone does it. Same when they put going out for drinks is a hobby, which also isn't a hobby it's a habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:23 AM
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how do you expect men collectively to shift toward respectful behaviours and showing vulnerability if they’re being penalised for doing so? Why would you show vulnerability after just brief dating? Thats called emotional unloading and will put women off. Whilst it doesn't put men off when women do it since men like that trusting exchange, it doesn't work in the reverse. You wouldn't want to show that side until you're in a serious relationship with the woman imo. There has always been double sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:32 AM
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Why would older women be changing men for what they can get? They usually have their own career by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:32 PM
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Maybe young women < 22 years old. I wouldn't say most in that age group either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:49 AM
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Sex is the most intimate act, two people can share. Casual sex, has little, to no intimacy. This is a contradiction since casual sex is still sex. I get the point you're trying to say though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:22 PM
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Most men don't even get a match or maybe get 1 a month and that won't go anywhere. It's only a small % that do well on those apps which is also the same % that dating apps make money from. But dating apps are not really indicative of how successful you might be in person which a lot of men fail to realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:13 PM
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On dating apps, women swipe right at an average of 2.5%-6%, depending on app and location. Men swipe right 40% of the time. Women are definitely pickier than men. As would men be if they had that many women swiping on them to be fair. It's really not a matter of gender its a matter of how many choices you got.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:12 PM
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Well, women are more poly than men and also women date older men so theres a larger % of men in their 20ies single compared to women in their 20ies. They choosing older men who are more successful than the 20 year old equivalents because they have abundance of choice. And generally older men are deemed more attractive up to a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:18 AM
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Except stats show more women are in relationships than men so they seem to have less difficulty in general. Yes the men many orders above their level will ghost them. But many men within their range of ideal will still also happily have a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:52 PM
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Or is it men's almost non existent standards leading to women having abundance of choice? If men had standards and were not thirsty losers women would have to adapt just as much as men would to get a date. But alas a woman barely has to try and she will get male attention so of course they will be picky. Men would be just as picky if they had hundreds of matches on dating apps and women sliding into his DMS.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:30 PM
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Just let people want what they want. Who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:48 PM
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You're talking about modern concepts of society, such as let's be generous and say the last 5,000 years and even then only a handful of those societies had arranged marriages. From an evolutionary standpoint of how our brains have evolved to find attraction thats such an inconsequential amount of time it's not worth factoring in. Our brain wiring has been the way it has since modern humans have been around which is somewhere around 350,000 years. So 5,000 years is around 1% of modern human devel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:33 AM
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now the average man wants to split everything in half. Uh what? It was not men that pushed the equality narrative. You want equality so you got equality. If you don't want equality, quit your jobs and men will provide. Why would men pay for everything if you earn just as much as him or in some cases even more than him in 2024? ​ Women arent attracted to most men Theyre attracted to most women ​ Who's faults that then ? Consider being less shallow and stop daydreaming for unrealistic looking men …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 06:56 PM
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They have many digital friends but not actual friends. It's society's obsession with the internet world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:05 AM
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This mainly stems from facial appearance. Men have more collagen so they experience far less wrinkles and skin aging than women do. A cruel irony given how important facial appearance is in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:04 AM
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Why don’t men care? Because they gave up by the time they notice aging affects. A lot of men seem to give up with women by mid to late 30ies these days. Just as aging starts to begin in terms of balding at least and belly fat increases. But besides that for the ones that don't give up they probably just don't feel the pressure since women don't pick by visual as a primary selective quality especially later in life, they just want to find a man to be happy with and grow old with. Though men will …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:01 AM
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You can still go to college at any age. As for inexperience just fake it or just pay to get experience and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:44 AM
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Women don't have to listen to the social pressure of being pretty Yes they do because they face negative consequences if they don't do you not read i already told you that. Men don't face negative consequences just because you're freaking single you sound ridiculous comparing these two things. ​ Men have also raped women since the dawn of time, but I doubt you think that's a good reason to not change. Completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. ​ And men experience negative outcomes in all aspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:35 AM
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Ironic given that the way society is set up pressures men by telling them implicitly and explicitly that his worth is directly tied to his ability to attract women But you don't have to listen to it. Since men did men become so concerned by social pressures in recent decades. ​ It would be like telling women to just stop caring completely about beauty standards, Not a fair comparison. Women experience negative outcomes being unattractive in all aspects of their life, jobs, pay, friendships, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:13 AM
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Easy to have standards when you're at a buffet, less easy when you're starving for physical and emotional connection. No it's easy to have standards when you have a fulfilling life and don't endlessly focus on a lack of bitches in your life as a measure of fulfilment. Stop using that as a metric of value and you won't care and all of a sudden you will become far more selective even when you have less options.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:14 AM
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Meanwhile, women are allowed to be as neurotic and anti-social as they please Because men have zero standards. Most of these differences is entirely because men will fuck just about any girl that is at least not ugly. ​ Reality is the whole dating market is a train wreck because men and their standards are a trainwreck. If they had similar standards as women there wouldn't be all this bitterness from men and entitlement from women to start with. It's on men to change the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:53 AM
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It's well researched that women have better social skills than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 10:01 PM
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In our world money is incredibily important. It is artificial though, tribes don't have money. But they still have sexual attraction - one is natural one is entirely not natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:05 AM
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How do people watching know that the women are promiscuous just from dancing... To be fair thats the whole point of partying during Mardi Gras lol But this video is perfectly fine imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:33 AM
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So you have no research to back up your claims. Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:04 AM
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Men is programmed to protect women I'm going to need some scientific research sources on this not a massive wall of text. Men certainly protect their own woman / kids but women as a general whole i don't see any evidence of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:33 AM
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I thin we agree on this point. Protecting women are written in men DNA. There's no evidence for that. Men are pretty barbaric and cruel to women without a well structured society where there are consequences for doing so. Most civilisations in history and during the break down of civilisations and war would tell you men are not at all "wired" to protect women, they are more wired to suppress and control them mostly for the acquisition of sex. If there was no laws created, you would probably be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:44 PM
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Matriarchal societies definitely have existed and some are still extant - they tend to be very primitive equatorial societies. Name one. Just one. I'll be waiting. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy#History_and_distribution As i said in my post there has never been in human history any evidence of a matriarchal society ever. You can have matriarchal families which are basically matrilineal but thats not really a society so it's a moot point. Everyone who claims they have or do exist neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:41 PM
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Who are "we"? Lots of modern societies have put protections in place to preserve tribes and other societies from outside influence. Also please use quotes so it's easier to know what part of your message you wrote and not just quoting me lol Humans are one of the most weak and small mammals, yet we're able to dominate all the others, because we're smart. Completely irrelevant. At no point did i talk about the hierarchy of predation in the animal kingdom. ​ Clearly, women are neither strong nor s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:24 PM
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This promiscuity led to uncertainty about paternity, resulting in descent being traced through the female line, known as mother-right, prevalent in ancient societies. Women, as the only certain parents of offspring, held high respect and honor, leading to the establishment of a rule of women (gynaecocracy) in Bachofen's view This is just made up nonsense. In most of history promiscuous women were heavily shamed, controlled, criminalised or even outright killed to prevent loss of knowing who the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:52 AM
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If you reach the final level in Sonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:57 AM
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I'm simply observing how it is currently being used. A couple bad actors doesn't mean thats how it is . ​ If a guy regularly gets laid, but goes on Reddit and complains about "women ruining football with Taylor Swift" or some nonsense... He will be called an incel. Yes and thats exactly the point, people using the definition wrong because they have low IQ and don't even know the meaning of the word. Most people don't even realise according to research that most incels are left leaning feminists.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:19 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:17 PM
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Most incels probably don't just because some do doesn't mean the whole group does. Thats low IQ to be conflating the entire group to bad actors. You don't get to change their community definition it's their term lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:44 AM
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Because it would prove they keep a ledger and do care :) But of course, you're not interested in being proved wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:12 AM
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Money is OUR money. If you out earn him are you paying the majority of things or is it 50/50 ? All my friends have homes doesn't mean homelessness doesn't exist. Your one experience is not indicative of society as a whole. Most women expect men to pay, and men who withdraw from doing it will soon see their relationship end. You know there is some truth in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:52 AM
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Then stop paying for future dates and see how that affects your prospects my guy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:51 AM
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LOL sure sure. So you think most women don't have expectations on men paying for dates from the start? Christ this subreddit is mind boggling delusional on times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:32 AM
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No its not lol. Ask any woman and they already have a mindset of who should be paying for things. Before they even get in a relationship. The one who earns most should be paying the most. Otherwise the relationship simply won't work. It's partly why so many relationships where women out earn the men don't work anyway because even in those dynamics men are still expected to pay and so that won't ever be a functional long term relationship. That is the true delusion. Fairness of equal burden matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:27 AM
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I see so that relationship was hardly balanced. Women keep ledgers on who pays you should too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:39 AM
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Curios were you still the one paying for all the dates? Or was it 50/50 or some other kind've arrangement ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:37 AM
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So yea this is pretty much the only redpill take I agree on. The red pill take only applies this to men, they do not think its okay for women to cheat due to a dead bedroom she should just leave, they only think its okay for men to get their needs outside of the relationship because men view sex different to women. So if you think its okay for women to do it as well then no its a red pill take you agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:22 AM
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Most of the women i've had relationships with enjoyed watching porn with me. Don't waste your energy around women who shame men. Just find the ones who have the same values as you. If men just ignored the women who shame men then they would probably stop doing it since they no longer get attention from the attempt to shame. The same way women who do only fans don't care that men shame them, they just avoid socialising with those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:10 PM
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Would you mind rephrasing that question? I meant change not chance. Sorry. I thought we were talking about feminists. They're not synonymous with women. For all intents and purposes it is female feminists fighting against sexual shaming not men. Men or lets say feminist men do minimal amount of actual protesting or social engagement for change. Women do most of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:29 PM
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So you don't think there has been any change in the social acceptable of sex work ? Because i can tell you now both onlyfans and women who sell sex has become very normalised, including porn and promiscuity. Women are the ones who have been pushing to reduce the shame of these facets of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:23 PM
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If you have friends and hobbies and still not happy just because you can't get laid you got bigger issues and a lot of growing up to do you sound like a 17 year old. And that is quite sad but also really not my problem because it's a bit pathetic to put so much emphasis on sex. Either way your post isn't really adding any intelligence to this debate. The idea that just because you empasise happiness just from sex somehow dismantles everything i said because you think the world revolves around yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:21 PM
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you can just go hook up LOL or pay for it No. And screw your illusion of independence, men depend on women for sex and relationships and vice versa. Then be sad because you can't get laid. If you want to pin your entire happiness on women you're in a rough time. I don't care. Most men however should stop relying on women as a source of their happiness because that is pathetic and a recipe for a lonely life. The point is stop putting so much importance on it and get some friends and hobbies. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:50 PM
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Only 4% of men are virgins by age 27, and less than 8% of men haven't had at least one LTR(5+ years) by 35. No the west isn't doing as badly as you think they are, and neither is Japan. I guess you just bury your head in the sand then. Sex isn't everything and doesn't say a lot either. So what if people have had sex that doesn't mean people are having families. Are you seriously that oblivious to the stats that were posted here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:48 PM
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Well they might remarry based on the above reasons i mentioned, the second time there is less chance kids are involved, and hopefully both him and the woman have their own money so he has less to lose in a divorce. It could also be a generation thing too, more religious also means marriage is important to them and they grew up in a world where getting married was the most important thing, difficult to shake that mindset off. But that still doesn't mean marriage rates are not decreasing and men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:41 PM
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You said "due to feminism" as if the only reason sex work is common these days is literally because of feminism I never said that in my original post? I said it was normalised. It's been common long before feminism was a thing, its one of the oldest professions in human history. However it is becoming normalised and accepted in society due to feminism so more men will pay for sex as there is less social backlash to it. It is not false it's pretty well known in research that feminism has been pus…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:36 PM
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Feminism didn't normalize sex work, capatilism did. Feminism is historically very anti-sex work. in 2024 we are not in a historical feminism period we've gone through multiple waves of feminism. You need to keep up with the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:35 PM
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Having sex would make me happier, but it's not all that's needed for happiness. And as a single man you can just go hook up or pay for it. So to suggest you can only be happy by being in a relationship makes you a dependant on women and thats a big failure in developing to being an independent man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:34 PM
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Japan is (to an extent) more capitalistic than the west Are you just making stuff up? This isn't at all inline with research on the cause of Japan's asocial generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:31 PM
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So why are these issues so much worse in Japan? It's not like Japan is more capitalistic than the cultural west. I think the answer more about the culture than its economic system Because they are all connected via the digital world the same way we are. IT's not related to culture or capitalism it's just we keep substituting socialising with online communication. Thus everyone atrophies in their social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:30 PM
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They always had that work culture and yet had a major population boom.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:29 PM
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Feminists hate sex work aside from onlyfans. No they don't. Radical feminists do. But most women do not identify as radical feminists. The vast majority of feminists have been pushing to normalise sex work because they believe it makes them safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:27 PM
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Here’s a really important question though. If divorce is so universally awful for men, why do they remarry at higher rates than women? Sounds really risky. Where do you get that idea from ? Marriage rates are dropping rapidly. One reason however is that they learnt how to protect themselves for the next marriage in the event of a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:24 PM
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If sex is the root to your happiness you have failed as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:23 PM
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In the year 2045 Japan must be having some kind of mass orgy or something to have slightly altered the course of population decline. I wonder how the 2017 researchers predicted that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:58 AM
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These stats minus the herbivore is pretty much how most of the west is going. I think the west won't see a huge rise in "herbivore" men since sex work is becoming more and more normalised due to feminism. Researchers keep saying, Japan isn't different to the west its just ahead of the west. What people don't realise is they had smartphones, connectivity & social media before the west even had myspace. They had their own thing just in Japan. South Korea was also similar, they were influenced by J…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:52 AM
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Dumb people get with dumb people. So yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:49 AM
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Problem is many of them would solipsistically assume that female carnal attraction was also purely based on looks. If we are going to use instagram/dating apps as a metric which is the 2 main ways people date and meet now. I do not believe that this is truly the ideal way for women. It's perfect for men ( assuming there was not an abundance of men ). Because for men they get to see pictures head to toe, women posting full bikini pics we can assess straight away. We rarely need to check the rest …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:45 AM
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Divorced men are less happy than married men because divorced men have often lost their home, frequent access to kids and forking over money to their ex who could've been a cheater, an abusive person or just someone they don't like at all and yet you're still handing money over to her for some times 18 years or life in some US states. So of course married men are happier since they have yet to go through that, but it's a bit of a red herring if we compare to divorced men and thus conclude "marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:31 AM
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It's going to depend on country/culture. In Japan most women don't consider it an issue or cheating if a man pays for sex with a sex worker. They only consider it cheating if you're romantically involved. So it would seem in their culture marriage isn't about sex. But in the west most women will not agree with it even if the bedroom is dead but TBH you should not be shocked if you get cheated on if your bedroom is dead and has been a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:22 AM
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I always felt responsible to “show” the woman a good time. Then how you know they like you just like what they get from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:29 AM
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Yes i just summarised your entire post in 4 lines noting that science backs the stance that far less men are sexually fluid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:28 AM
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According to studies: Not much at all. Women however almost all of them to some degree. Which makes sense to me since women want connection if there are an absent of men they would be more fluid to still find a connection. That need for connection is far less in men generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:12 AM
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Sure but sex is for both parties. So they both get and she gets free dates whilst he spends money. That doesn't seem balanced to me but i am not surprised women like that arrangement. Maybe some men do too since they can have multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:09 AM
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Dates are fun. Yeah because men are the ones paying for it all the time. It's not necessarily fun for men if it leads nowhere. Yay we pay for all the dates you just have to show up and contribute minimally in return like cook dinner. It's a total mystery why women find it so fun. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:21 PM
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If men are struggling because they don't have a woman in their life then they have failed to be independant men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:19 PM
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She's told me the landscape shes in the industry. Most of the women are not what you claim them to be you're just following the usual stereotypes which is just not the reality for most sex workers. Most of self employed who voluntarily went into it because it's good money and a lot of them enjoy it. I would argue well over 90% of sex workers are not some crack whore with a pimp surviving by taking what they can get on the roadside and those women are not exactly advertising themselves on SB site…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:42 PM
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Just like the men who visit them. Vastly incorrect. I know a sex worker and she has told me about the type of clients she and her friends often see, they have a huge collective network across the country and share a block list of clients to avoid and often do a lot of social networking to keep everyone safe. It's all middle aged married men who are super wealthy and have really powerful connections in law and politics most of the time. The trope that clients are loser men who can't get laid or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:19 PM
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Yap. I wonder if the reason why feminists hate men that pays for sex is because those men can then simply aim for smarter prettier women. That and it's an easy way to cheat and never get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:14 PM
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A$AP Rocky says that the majority of rappers find some hot IG model and flys them out for sex, gives them money and takes them shopping, then sends them back. Its not considered prostitution because everyone is high status. Thats not the same as having children with is it........which is what you said in your post. If we talking just sex, i know a sex worker and most clients are rich married men. So its a lot more common than you think and its definitely not "loser" virgin men paying for it like…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:13 PM
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I don't think i at any point even used the world undesirable. I still have no idea what you're even on about ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:21 PM
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secondary sex characteristic. What relevance does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:28 PM
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Sure but the same can be said if a woman meets a man of such high calibre then a woman would not be considered settling either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:24 PM
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Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:01 PM
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Well regarding the ageing part not so much the wall part which isn't related to biology. Firstly, 80% of all immune diseases affect women which typical onset around 30ies onwards, this makes sense since biologically women are expected to already have had a child long before 30 where they usually have a stronger immune system than men in order to protect a newborn. But after a certain age that strong immune system isn't needed anymore and things go a bit haywire for a lot of women. In terms of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:51 PM
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I know a woman who does sex work and dominates men. Almost all her clients are rich and/or powerful men of which almost all of them are married too. I think men who have a lot of power/responsibilities at work or with their family enjoy the idea of the opposite in a fantasy setting temporarily. Helps switch off the stress etc. Many of them also like to still be dominant with their wife but need the opposite with someone else temporarily without changing the pre-existing way of things they have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:13 AM
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I would argue then that men also settle because they won't get the supermodel they all jerk to from porn. But is that really settling or just realizing some realistic expectations. So one could argue the entire world settles.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:47 AM
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This is why when men who want women to lower their standards or “settle” I think it’s a bad idea. ​ For the most part if a man is not that appealing in the looks department, women tend to admire what a man does for her Would you not consider that to fall under the category of settling from women's perspectives? If looks is maximum priority to women i would say its a form of settling but if looks are not a maximum priority like they are for men when selecting who to date then is "what a man does …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:32 PM
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It's fine to regret but a lot of women have body counts in the double digits by the time they hitting 21 - thats not a regret thats just hedonism without thinking about the long term consequences of how men will judge it. It's also not on men to waiver in their mindset on your regrets either. If thats how they think, then thats how they think. It would just be better if women were informed of this early on but even if they are warned its apparently slut shaming for men to have such preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:07 AM
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In the context of marriage under law its illegal but i think OP is referring to polyamory not so much the marriage part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:40 AM
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What do you want with these women exactly? To have one date that ends up with sex and then you both ghost each other? No you just need to be be consistent. Don't hook up with randoms to start with then have the mindset of "wait a while" from dating. Either be a one and done hook up or never be a one and done hook. Thus every guy you get to know was treated the same. It's not hard to grasp. If you treat two guys completely different and one finds out they were treated different they will not be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:17 PM
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Not engage in hookups to start with and only get into bed with someone you really want commitment with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:16 PM
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We're talking about dating before a relationship has yet occured obviously. Pay attention to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:15 PM
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You missed the point entirely. It wasn't about money spent as such. The point was there was surety with the one girl so went all out but cautious uncertainty with you so not willing to woo you. You have to prove yourself worth going further with when the previous girl did not. Which would make most women feel insulted. That was the attempt of equivalence in how men think when women hook up straight away but make other men wait to spend multiple dates on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:54 PM
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Last girl I dated I took to a fancy restaurant on the first date. But for you as you are higher value, I'll take you to McDonald's for the first few dates just to be sure. That's the same logic in a man's eyes and the logical is arse backwards. You should hookup with the guy you really want and not entertain the guy you don't consider high value. God knows why women don't understand and practice that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:39 PM
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I think the man's perspective is, why does some random guy that you met once get to hook up with no real effort but the guy you really want to have commitment to you will make him date you, spend money, time and effort to get the same outcome of sex. It makes guys think they clearly aren't on the same level since they have to put more effort in to get same benefits. And sex has to happen for men to decide if they want to commit, most men won't ever commit before sex unless they really are foolis…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:34 PM
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Why the fuck would you want to work in a manufacturing facility in a highly developed nation. That's for low paid jobs not skilled workers. Skilled workers work in offices on computers doing research and development. If we bring back factories and manufacutring it better be automated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:28 PM
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A lot of people from low GDP/capita have better productivity output than those living higher GDP/capita because they want to get out of poverty. Where as the rest are complacent. For example, some of the highest earners in USA are first or second generation. Caucasian i think is 3rd after Indian and Chinese. Whether you like it or not they are simply better workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:18 AM
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If you had the choice between a wealthy athletic man and an average looking average wealth man there is a clear difference in value and they will have a enormous difference in dating success. The same goes for women with their beauty. You would be surprised how rigid our conscious decisions are, so much so that ai is pretty good at predicting who would be the ideal partner for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:29 PM
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All of which you categories. Traits and appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:21 PM
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You do otherwise how else do you decide who to date and who not to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:16 PM
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Everyone does it subconsciously or not some are just willing to openly say it. Even the field of psychology categorizes people. It's a normal thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:21 AM
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None of that is relevant. Women can still be emotionally ridiculous and "woman child" would still apply but the term simply isn't used.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:38 AM
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I can't control the fact men will send thousands of $ to women for feet pics and fly them out for sex and spend a lot of money on them just for a date or sub to their onlyfans and simp for them and swipe right on every girl they see. None of these are indicators of good social skills in men, this is all signs of poor social skills and desperation. If you have used dating apps i am positive you have swiped right more than most women ever have because again men have zero standards and are not pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:52 PM
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This would explain why so many turn their nose when i post actual scientific data they still reject it. It's honestly a waste of time most of the time even giving them any attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:29 PM
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Women use the term narcissist about their ex's all the time when less than 1% of people are actually clinically a narcissist. Maybe even less than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:28 PM
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Yeah but there enough loser men who will tolerate it and not walk off that they continue to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:32 PM
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Free food.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:29 AM
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And that inept-ness actually describes a lot of women. But it's not very noticeable because women are not expected to take the initiative in communication. Disagree, women are far better at social connections, friendships and emotional sharing than men are. Men suck at making friends with other men in any real capacity beyond high school and university ages. If the woman isn't communicating with you on the date its because she ain't into you. Not because she doesn't know how to communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:21 AM
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If thats the case allot of women are in the same category. Agreed but the burden is not on them to do so. It's on men to approach so men need to get practiced. Women are generally far more socially skilled at human relationships on emotional level than men are.... Men are terrible at making friendships with men let alone relationships with women on an intimate level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:20 AM
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Most single mothers are economically disadvantaged and dead last in prosperity. And also struggle to find relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:43 AM
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Not being able to talk to the opposite sex in a normal manner for the purpose of relationships is a form of social ineptitude. Without which the human race would not procreate and survive. If you are failing at it you are technically socially inept at it. Other animals don't have much difficulty in understanding cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:55 PM
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I'm not reading your reply just going to mute you since you evidently don't care about scientific truth. So i will leave you with this to school you infront of everyone. I literally work all day around researchers as i am one myself I speak to many researchers who focus on this issue a lot. They all say population decline is happening and will happen to nearly all countries this century. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57003722 https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:45 PM
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And yet they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:20 PM
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Stop talking nonsense it is well known the population will likely go in decline theres been plenty articles on it. It's called population collapse. Tons of research papers on it, plenty articles on mainstream media covering it and youtube videos. Not one is saying its a "decrease in the rate of increase". The population is expected to lose 2 billion people over the next half century.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:18 PM
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On top of that women's growing financial success and continued progress in the field of IVF and fertility will mean that women will be able to have children pretty much whenever they want and will have the resources to provide for them. You can already see this with sperm banks sharing their info on what kind of donors are most requested. This is completely at odds with the fact birth rates are tanking and populations are going down. They already have access to this but are not opting for it bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:41 AM
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Are you sure you're not asexual ? Or maybe asocial ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:57 AM
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Women watch porn just as much as men. Would be rather hypocritical if they judged men for watching when they do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:05 PM
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Fair enough, whats the reason behind to this dramatic rise in loneliness? They grew up behind screens so have far less deep connections with people, thus atrophy in their social skills. This will lead to people being more distant to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:52 PM
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Loneliness != mental illness. Your post seems to be mixing the two topics together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:51 PM
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There is no metric you can use where you could prove women have superiority in any category. Any position they are in required an entire feminist movement, quotas and huge social change just to get where they are now and that took thousands of years to get to this point and even then we see feminism slightly waning and not really achieving all of its goals anyway. This is not in any way proof of superiority since it can be taken away very quickly if enough people wanted to do so. In the physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:39 PM
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When most men try being selective with sex, they end up going without for a very long time. Because theres infinitely more other men who are not selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 09:42 PM
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Do you need standards for a one night stand😬😬😬??? Lmao. Obviously, both men and women should but men typically do not so they then shouldn't complain how easy it is for women to get sex. Resulting in women being highly selective. If men were highly selective sex would be easier for guys because women would likely not be getting enough of it. So their standards would adjust and then men and women's standards would likely become pretty similar so there would be little different in how easy sex is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:17 AM
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Its easy for women because men will sleep with any one with no standards whatsoever. So what do you expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:57 PM
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Yes but they won't end a relationship over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:52 AM
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A lot of people on the subreddit don't care about statistical data i have come to realise - even when showing it to them they still refuse. It's frustrating to say the least when trying to converse given i only care about the research side of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:05 PM
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There is just no science to back any of what you're saying here. Using your personal anecdotes and experiences is too low IQ to bother my time with. The vast majority of women would avoid criminal men because its not inductive to a secure relationship. Especially for high educated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:29 PM
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Don't get into a relationship with someone who wants marriage in the first place and save your time and hers Men aren't the ones who really care about marriage to begin with. If they don't care married it's not a deal breaker for most of them. It's far more an important factor to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:26 PM
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Well don't get into a relationship with a guy who isn't into marriage in the first place so you don't have to break up with them, thus saving your time and his.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:32 AM
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How many famous criminals vs just criminals? You're using a tiny marginal select few to represent the entire thing. Being a criminal really doesn't serve men well for relationships with women at all it ranks very negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:31 AM
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The same way criminal men get women They actually really don't. A very small % get lusted over by women who are drawn to such men but most women avoid criminal men. But the reverse is not true because men are thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:57 AM
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Women get triggered* I don't think men give a shit, if anything women dressing modestly is probably something most men approve of and find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:20 AM
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But some dude here wrote about how a guy was a twitch streamer married to an obese ugly lady. When he became rich and famous he ditched his wife and went for skinny hot women. Women do this same thing notoriously when they earn higher education or significantly outearn their man. I would argue that happens far more often than what you're suggesting guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:19 AM
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Given the drop in marriage rates, most women should start to come to terms with being just a girlfriend. There is a huge rise in men who don't see most women as wife material, for a myriad of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:17 AM
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Sure, but if a girl talks me down in public that relationship is over. A man does not have to tolerate such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:21 AM
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I mean men do it at 18 to get experience they will do it at 40 to get experience. Not much can be done about that. I don't think age is main factor here. It's just their need to get experience at whatever the cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:09 PM
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If you find the perfect girl and shes your first girlfriend, you're very likely to fail in maintaining it due to lack of any experience. You need some level of experience first in relationships and sex or she going to walk. Especially as you get older and expectations increase. It's an interesting dilemma for men out there right now. I would advocate get experience before you aim for something serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:53 PM
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Because looks in women increase social status so as a woman you want to gravitate to those attractive women to increase your own social status without getting pushed away due to overstepping. Unattractive women will bring lower social status outcomes so attractive women will exclude them. For an extreme example, you aren't getting into the club for free or invited on to super yachts if you are hot but all your female friends coming with you are ugly. In men being competitive to be the best at so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:49 AM
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Population level statistics don’t apply to individual scenarios. Actually thats the entire premise of statistical analysis and correct data sampling ... the risks are the same but the causes might differ in anyone's marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:58 AM
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I know a woman who does sex work and most of her clients, (maybe like 90%?) are all married men and many claim to be religious. lol It's often a myth that people think its the losers who can't get laid that pay for sex. It's often a way for men to cheat and never get caught since its confidential. Men will always pursue sex, so i imagine almost none of the men are virgins before marriage. But i don't think it matters as much as the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:27 PM
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So important to me I'm not doing it until I'm married Does it make you anxious about the amount of guys being turned off by marriage these days ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 09:40 PM
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Generally speaking no it typically decreases after the initial lust stages. It typically decreases after some years. As does men's. But for women it often decreases far more. It especially drops after children too in some women. Last i read somewhere a large % of men say they don't get enough sex from their partner whereas a lot of women were happy with the amount they were getting in their relationship. Which may explain to some level the different amount of cheating between men and women. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 12:00 AM
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Anyone who takes care of the child full (or most) of the time pays child support No the person who is not taking care of the child pays child support to the person who takes care of the child. Which is usually the father paying it not the mother. What are you on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:33 PM
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Skincare is also expensive but it seems to be important to men on the PPD that women maintain a youthful appearance. My routine is roughly $69-$79 monthly. You do know men also have skin care routines right ? And if you go out with your friends you're still spending money on skin care so why does it suddenly only become a factor for dates but going out with friends is different? Why do you think so transactionally with someone that could be your soulmate but not regular friends? This merely redu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:35 PM
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many people feel that marriage is worth it. Actually the majority under 35 don't think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:49 AM
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Yes because men spend far too much time trying to not be single thus ignoring important aspects of being single. If you actually enjoy your life it's quite easy enjoying being single providing you maintain your friend connections. The issue with singlehood with men is they suck at making sure their connections with friends continue. So singleness often becomes loneliness for them and loneliness is a big issue. Although it should be noted loneliness is worse in women at the moment and they fare w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:05 AM
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If he thinks I'm the type of woman who will just divorce him for fun and profit, he shouldn't even want to date me. There's something wrong with him. It doesn't matter if you don't do it for profit the law is the law he still pays out regardless. It has nothing to do with the reason of divorce. Some times divorce is unavoidable but he will still have to pay out to you. I'm sure you think you're in the 30% of women but most women and most people getting into marriage vow to be together until deat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:45 PM
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Ok change parachutes to % chance of cheating then. Would you still go for it? Obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:40 PM
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Divorce is leading cause of suicide in men i consider them both equally a risk of death.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:26 PM
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So why should I be fine if my partner assumes we have no shot? Would you date someone with a 70% chance they will cheat? So why would a guy marry if theres a 70% chance she will file for divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:26 PM
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In the US, the divorce rate has actually fallen to around 45% I mean that still 1 in 2 lol.. Not great odds. Would you date someone with a 45% chance of cheating on you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:11 PM
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Where did you get that stat? Pretty sure it’s closer to 40-50% for first marriages at least. Divorce rates are yes. But 70% of them are initiated by women so the trust in a partner is meaningless. Would you jump out of a plane with a parachute having a 30% fail rate ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:26 PM
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Marriage isn't risky for men. Research bears out that men benefit from marriage, in numerous ways, and more so than women He obviously meant risky if the marriage ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:32 PM
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I would understand his worries, but if he refused, I would take that as a sign he refuses to trust me. I would find it incredibly difficult to move past that. No one gets married under the assumption their partner will divorce but you're still well over 70% likely to anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:31 PM
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In my life experience all my friends have a home, I guess I should conclude any data showing homelessness exists is total horse shit using your logic. I'm not wasting more of my time with your anecdotal experience, I prefer to converse with open minded and intelligent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 11:28 AM
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The science of surveys? Lol Yes where else are we going to get information from? You evidently pulling your statements out of your ass because research does not support your view on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:16 PM
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I thought every dude would fall in love with me but that wasn’t the case. That is not a man alive that would think this because, but rather they think the opposite, "there is likely no women who will love me". The worlds are totally opposite to start with for you to have that mindset. ​ The women who get 500 messages from dudes are actually putting themselves out there with very selective images and suggestive poses - if you are doing that you too will get tons of messages. If you're not being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 08:59 AM
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There's definitely no "Biological imperative" to do it while in a relationship . That doesn't change the fact men want sexual variety...and they do it in a relationship all the time. Cheating rates in men in somewhere around 2 out of 3 men cheat within 10 years of a marriage. For women its more closer to 1 in 10. Women are just more likely to up and leave if their needs are not met, men are more likely to try balance it to get best of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:48 AM
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No one said men are thoughtless apes. Stop being ridiculous. Plenty research as asked why men and women cheat and the results are vastly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:47 AM
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Just not true according to plenty studies - women cheat rarely just for the pursuit of sexual pleasure because theres little guarantee a hook up will even achieve a better result. ​ This subreddit is shockingly anti science it's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:46 AM
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Because sex isn't everything, emotional needs are met but sexual variety is always desired in men, 99% of men would love threesomes after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:17 PM
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Just not true, far more men cheat just for sexual pleasure than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 09:14 PM
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Lol for a maths teacher to be so head in the clouds and genuinely not think there is an objective idea of beauty is beyond belief for the state of the education system in the UK. There is absolutely a consensus of beauty on women that men are consistently in agreement with. However not the case with men because looks do not take priority in mate selection for women. Most people will dominantly agree Amber Heard is more attractive than Lizzo. That is objectively measurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:33 AM
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There's a general consensus on attraction so there is an objective truth to it. Animals evovle to attractive to a mate in nature it's not at all an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:13 AM
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Because women don't like men who are obsessed with their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:12 AM
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Would it be fair to say you cheated at the end but you had already mentally checked out of the relationship? It seems women are blind to other men when deeply in love, but once they check out they turn into thinking the way men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:34 AM
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The reasons men cheat are generally quite simple - they want variety of sexual experiences. For women its way more complicated and sometimes not even sexually motivated to begin with. You probably won't learn anything new hearing from men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:32 AM
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See? That’s what I mean. It is red pill to assume almost all women are actually dating up in looks too— you believe it yourself. You’re demonstrating what I said. What? Most women based on basic math should be a 5. But women rate themselves far higher than men would rate them. But this means women look for men well above what they really should aim for then conclude there are no good men. The reality is most women are average, think they are above average and so try to get an above average man a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:01 AM
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All the chatter is about how female 5s expect to date male 8s because they all think there a 10, but they are women and actually all suck. Yes but a man who is an 8 is not talking about his looks. A woman who is a 5 in looks should date a man who is socioeconomically a 5. Which is basically the average man (Joe the plumber). Not a 100k software engineer who is above average socioeconomically (say a 6 or 7). I don't think theres much use in using the 10 scale for appearance in men, because more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:58 AM
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I think women do care about attractiveness but it’s different than how men value looks but I agree that men take bad photos. Yes - for example imperfect faces on a man, non symmetry and even scars can be attractive to women. Perfect symmetry on a man makes a man look youthful and less masculine (for example asian men) and thats not the main desire for most women who like masculine faces, but generally for men they would find imperfections very unattractive on a woman. This is part of the reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:50 AM
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I said nothing about dating apps or Instagram I did because those are overwhelmingly the main way people meet for relationships now. A woman’s body is overall more interesting if you ask me since there are more secondary sexual characteristics. Any part of the body can become a sexual characteristic those are learnt not innate. We just promote the woman's body more in the media so it creates the idea that women are more attractive than men in significant ways. But generally the distribution of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:44 AM
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I really don’t think that’s true. Even a woman with no makeup is visually more interesting than almost every man. How often are men coming across makeup free women on dating apps or on instagram or out in social situations, it's actually quite a low number so such an anecdote doesn't say much. In research context, using symmetry, women are only slightly on average more symmetrical than men, so they have an ever so slightly higher score in attractiveness but not enough for it to be significant. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:48 PM
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she’s beneath him in look That absolutely is not the redpill mantra. Redpill are under no illusion that women are considered more attractive than men physically. I have stated this to the guys barking about hypergamy repeatedly, and they almost always strongly disagreed that the women men date were ever better than the man in any way. The point is more that the more socioeconomically successful you are as a man (not how much more attractive you are as a man) the more you can attract more attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:42 PM
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Men are the ugly gender, women are the pretty gender Remove makeup and science tends to find men and women are almost equal in attractiveness, women score only slightly above men in attractiveness averages. Women artificially inflate their beauty. The equivalent of a guy flexing money to pretend hes wealthier than he is. But most men will stick with the girl once the make up is off anyway so the trick works and works well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:35 PM
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The dating down is in regards to socioeconomic status because men don't care about socioeconomic status in dating prospects. You could be working in starbucks for all we care, if you're beautiful and nice to be around we will try to get your number. Most women on the other hand would rather a guy with a fully fledged career, not a man with no career prospects working in starbucks...thats what dating down means here. Men date up in other metrics such as beauty, women are typically far more beauti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:19 PM
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The point is men still choose the same type of women in their 30ies as they did in their 20ies. If you're chosen just for stability, as soon as they want fun again they will leave you. Plenty of articles out there talking about how married women get bored. Men don't want to be settled for or be the last option they want to be the first option.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:16 AM
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I don't think it's an intentional strategy. Most men just suck at communication. Or just don't need it as much otherwise it would happen more already and we would be more skilled at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 07:46 AM
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You say that, but I can't think of a single person I've ever met who got all of their needs satisfied, especially sexually, by just one person. Well for one most women don't prioritise sexual needs as per the conversation to begin with. Whilst men do (which is why men cheat so much more). But men won't accept sharing their woman so short of having it open on his end and not hers - 9 times out of 10 people just opt for monogamy and not all needs met. But men typically step out to get some sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 11:47 PM
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ND afab with no dating or sexual history, so my hierarchy might be a bit unusual or impractical. Was about to say your list is unusual but that line explains it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:27 PM
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So if my partner and I share that value and we are not sexually compatible, we would be able to add or subtract sexual partners If you're poly sure but thats such a rare exception here. TBH if you need other partners your original relationship is likely incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:24 PM
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Not according to the replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 09:23 PM
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It's interesting to see in the replies so far how...just how low down sexual compatibility is for women in importance. I imagine for men thats right near the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:18 AM
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Or the women also just wanted sex lol But you said: Compatibility, how they treat you, your common goals, morals, etc. I think are more important. But what you said here, none of that really matters if you just wanted sex so thats a moot point. If it does matter then men can still lie to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:03 AM
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Compatibility, how they treat you, your common goals, morals, etc. I think are more important. Men lie about these things to get sex all the time especially when young. You have to give it time to find out how real they were being. A lot of women fall for the same tricks guys do to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:27 PM
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Most of their issues with dating is their standards being super high and picky bordering unrealistic. Nothing wrong with that if thats how you want it to be.....but you can't also then complain that no one meets those standards, because thats entirely your own doing. If no one meets your standards it's time to reflect on your standards because maybe you can't get such a man because you yourself as good as you think you are. Otherwise it would not take long to find the ideal person. ​ 200+ dates …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 12:44 AM
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True their sex drive decreases more than men when it's already generally lower than men to start with. But desire for relationship doesn't really decrease from emotional standpoint. There are known physical health issues women suffer with if they don't have relationships. Men too but men seem to be less effected by physical health from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:44 AM
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Cheating rates are pretty equal between men and women these days. Though how people cheat is vastly different. Men typically cheat for physical pleasure even when they love their partner. Women typically cheat because their relationship is pretty much dead and wouldn't care if the relationship ended anyway. The rates of cheating is somewhere between 1 in 6 to 1 in 10. Different studies give different answers but they are often very similar between men and women. Cheating is much higher however i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:21 AM
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You said “more feminine chores”, which is exactly what I said as well If the chore is considered "more feminine" and the man is doing it there is a correlation between sex frequency. For example most couples consider taking out the trash as a man's chore so if a woman is doing it there is lower sex frequency. This is not hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:42 AM
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So you want the school to take over the role of the parent in thrashing the kids. Why you being so facetious ? If you're going to turn everything into what i said to just "so you want kids to be beaten at school" then i'm just going to mute you and not waste my time on low IQ responses. Not interested in your emotional responses and low hanging fruit nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:12 PM
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I said “more chores” I'm not reading that wall of text because i never said "less chores". Again READ my post for goodness sake. I said men who do chores that are associated as feminine get less sex. I never said equal division of chores was associated with less sex. Infact equal division of chores typically increased sex. But the division of it was also important. If the chores that the man did were considered feminine it led to more sex... that plays no part in how the chores were divided. ​ I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:09 PM
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I know what you're trying to get at, but I would argue the concept of "bad" you're invoking is not very scientific. Oh you think joining a gang is considered good in the world of science assuming science really had an opinion on that? I think we can categorically agree it is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:24 PM
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You don’t know the cause for your “fun fact”, so don’t present that research as though it is proof that men doing more chores causes them to have less sex, because you don’t actually know that at all. Thats not what i said though. Please read my comment slower.. i am surprised how lacking in critical thinking and anti science this subreddit is on times. I made no statement on amount of chores one does... only whether the chores is seen as masculine or feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:24 PM
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I just told you, asian kids have it more strict due to parents demanding success. If schools had that mindset then all boys would do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:23 PM
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That didn't disprove my point, all that proved is sharing of chores improved relationships which doesn't contradict my statement. Please read slower next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:22 PM
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But if those Asian kids do better without changing the format of how things are taught then we don't need to change how we teach, just need it to be more strict.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:07 PM
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Strict as in less tolerance for stupid behaviour and poor grades. I think boys do better in schools when it isn't just "try your best" but rather "you must succeed". Just look at how Asian kids do better due to family pressure on success. It works well on those boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:03 PM
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It does mean conforming to social expectations I never really said that wasn't a part of it. The choice of expectations however is the question. Women typically want to fit in with other women. Men typically want status / respect from other men but there's many bad paths to achieve that in men, and they are usually easier to do such as joining a gang, gangs often target disenfranchised young boys with the concepts of loyalty and brotherhood etc. Some women take the bad path too, they can end up …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:25 AM
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Those are both attempts to fit in, but joining a gang is a shortcut to doing so because you don't require to do much self improvement. Women typically do more self improvement resulting in healthier positive outcomes. For men a lot often end up in bad outcomes when they have no guidance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 10:51 AM
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It's pretty well researched as if it's anything "wrong"... Well men like sex and sex is a major component for men above all else for successful relationships. For women it might not take such a priority but for men it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:42 AM
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There is some evidence that men with no purpose typically end up down a bad path rather than self improvement, society suffers as a result in the long run especially women who are often victims of men's bad choices. It seems men are better with guidance whereas women are often better at self improvement. But we have largely eroded men's options for guidance other than from mothers and female teachers and schools just aren't strict enough imo. Not really a surprise women self improve better, sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:33 AM
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If the man isn't pulling his weight in unpaid labour outside of those 3 things, dump him. He ain't worth it Fun fact, men who do chores that are often seen as "women's chores", get less sex than men who only do chores that are considered "men's chores". So if you have fair division of chores - splitting them so they are the stereotypical chores for each person, often makes for a better sex life in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:30 AM
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There are also women who go on dates just to get free food with no intentions of being interested in the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:19 AM
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Last i read, 45% of men under 30 have never approached a woman - ever. Thats nearly 1 in 2. So thats certainly risk aversion. We also know male managers are avoiding 1 to 1 conversations with women in the workplace since the me too movement, which is again a risk aversion. Commitment i don't think has that much risk, if you are hooking up and having situationships - i see no reason risk aversion explains no commitment, more likely enjoying the pleasures whilst not being tied down to one woman mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:31 AM
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women dont even want to go on dates where the man is paying for dinner lol Think you worded that wrong, most would go on a date if the man is paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:24 AM
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If your woman has toys, then get some toys for yourself as well and both of you can enjoy playing with toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 10:05 PM
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Most men are not interacting with women who look like IG models. They do online and young women especially confuse internet attention to be the same as attention for relationships etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:57 AM
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What's natural will occur dominantly if left alone. There is always outliers in any species but outliers tell us nothing. A tall woman doesn't disprove that men are taller than women in nature for example. Examples, nursing is predominantly women because women are more naturally interested in caring for others. Men are predominantly into engineering because they are more naturally interested in things. Almost every society in existence in human history formed patriarchal hierarchies so humans ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:51 PM
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I really doubt if you poll'd a bunch of men that Buffy or Katniss would be on the list at all and if they are it would be a very tiny % at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:19 PM
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You're not wrong but a man with frame would easily say "not interested in someone who randomly gropes my ass thanks". You'll get respect for that by any one. A man with standards get more respect in society especially by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:18 PM
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For hookups sure - i doubt men care since you won't see that girl again, for relationships it matters a lot to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:13 PM
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There doesn't need to be context for sexually touching others randomly without having some initial interaction to know they are first interested. I can only assume any female attention is good attention for you because you don't get enough of it to have any boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:16 AM
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Just not desperate enough to give random groping women my time becusee I prefer the company of better women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:10 AM
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So do you think going up to a woman and grabbing her ass will be considered an appropriate approach? If you can grasp the point here, that's your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:09 AM
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Any example male characters you imagine yourself as ? Kind've curious. I don't imagine many men imagine themselves as female characters no matter how relatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:46 AM
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So she literally groped you ? And you still gave her your time and chatted with her? Your standards sure are something to behold.....
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:30 AM
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I am pretty spectacular Okay but why not look for a spectacular man to match you rather than someone worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:02 AM
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I'm just muting you at this point, i made it clear what i said you're just rambling at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:36 PM
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Your the one telling men to speak up and then simultaneously gate keeping when they should speak up. Yes with your own movements not piggybacking on women's movements.. seriously are you dumb i said this so many times now. I'm not further wasting my energy with this conversation if you have no IQ to engage in this. Go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:35 PM
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They will be listened to if they do it in substantial numbers. There hasn't been a single movement by men ever so far because not enough men put any energy into trying to. The MRA could be a strong movement if it ten fold increased its size but it pales in comparison to feminist groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:46 PM
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What the fuck relevance has any of that got to do with my point that men don't raise the issue? Women started the metoo movement not men, thus proving that men are never the ones to speak up and start movements they piggyback off of stuff started by women. You're not really disagreeing with initial point - you're just ranting about the progression of the MeToo movement which i don't care about because its not relevant how toxic it went...has nothing to do with my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:45 PM
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but are functional enough to post online about their dating woes are way advanced compared to the vast majority of people with autism. That still is a long way from being socially skilled to have full relationships. Statistically autistic men are the least likely to get relationships from women, thats just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:38 PM
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I am the opposite of everything you just typed You look for a man who is worse than you in most things in every way? What???
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:36 PM
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You are aware of how men tryed to talk about their experience and trauma during the metoo movement and they got slammed by the metoo movement? Because that was women's movement not men's. Like i said in my post, men need to do their own movements stop hitching on the backs of others it's really stupid thing to do and causes resentment. Men are lazy as fuck and can't ever be bothered to start their own movement for their own issues. Not once has men ever done it... not once. Women have multiple t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:18 PM
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You don’t think 25% is significant or “far more”? Not to the point of just ignoring men's issues...no. 60% is still more than one 1 in 2 thats enough to take it seriously....arguing "well women have it FAR worse" is stupid at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:11 PM
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Because men don't hold them to account or speak up about it. Women speak up about men's behaviour all the time so there is awareness. If you want that to change men have to stop enabling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:15 AM
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It always staggers me how such women who have endless options end up getting tunnel vision on a particular guy who oftentimes isn't even anything special to the extent that they will ignore far more respectful and even successful men Just shows how significantly different men and women are when it comes to sex and dating strategies. I don't think women understand themselves why one guy stands out over all the others - they kind've rely on their feelings when around the guy the same way you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:47 AM
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You don't have to like the podcast but i cannot get behind deplatforming nonsense. Thats just an overly emotional response that you see in teenagers. If you don't like freedom of speech you can move to a country that controls the content you can see and produce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:58 AM
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the scientific data shows that women are FAR more likely to experience sexual harassment. Actually the difference is not that significant, i believe last i saw was 85% female to 60% male victims, i wouldn't consider that "far more" and also factor in men don't necessarily complain....60% might be lower than the true value. I will need to find the paper that revealed this as it was only a few months ago. The perpetrators were even split between men and women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:43 AM
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Men don't complain thats why. If men complained as much as women and demanded change then change would occur. It's not hard to understand this. Women unify and create a strong message in society such as the MeToo movement... men just mutter some words and move on...then men complain of the double standard but they are the ones being quiet about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:41 AM
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Move on to love with the girl? Or move on to someone else? That depends on if you think it's worth it only you can decide that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:44 AM
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If you have to ask "is it worth it" then you already know it isn't. Have your fun with the initial lust then move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:04 AM
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I’m telling you women do it every day and we’ll never know why. Do what? Ignore approval of their female friends ? Or the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:59 PM
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Maybe post actual science,not people spouting their point of view in an opinion piece before you make statements: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2023-08884-001 (2022 peer reviewed) ​ We conduct a comprehensive meta-analysis of gender differences in sex drive based on 211 studies, 856 effect sizes, and 621,463 persons. The meta-analysis revealed a stronger sex drive in men compared to women, with a medium-to-large effect size, g = 0.69, 95% CI [0.58, 0.81]. Men more often think and fantasize abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:52 PM
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Nah a study came out recently that proves that women have the same libido as men This is not even remotely accurate most studies show men almost universally have higher sex drives than women by quite a substantial margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:46 PM
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Not if they want relationships, they will only meet fuck boys on there who do quite well on those apps.. but yeah it serves them well if they looking for a hook up for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:44 PM
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Thats a consequence of having a lot more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:43 PM
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This is a good point. It also shows that a woman can find a man attractive even if the rest of her friends think he’s ugly which proves that there is no universal chad. If all your friends find your man ugly would you want him ? Lots of studies suggest approval from other female friends matters to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:43 PM
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Men suck at taking photos anyway, generally don't care to take selfies as we are busy and we don't have makeup to help. Only those photogenic will get far as a guy in photos. In person women see the whole picture to make a decision and time aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:41 PM
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Economy has changed, out everyday lives have changed. Sure but the quality of life now is orders of magnitude better than 60 years ago.. so how would that explain most people saying they are less happy and more lonely and people's inability to hold long term relationships in the present....for me the only changes that could cause this is the late stage feminism that is challenging and trying to enforce changes to gender norms that formed naturally over centuries. Early feminism was fine such as …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:36 PM
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Wanting an attractive woman who takes good care of herself and is confident in her sexuality, but has a 0/low count and turns herself into a goody two shoes and a lady the moment this specific man puts a claim on her. This isn't really a contradiction, you can be an attractive woman and also be sexually reserved....lol How sexual you are is a matter of your core principles not how hot you look. ​ Wanting an expensive-looking woman, but wanting her to be low-maintenance. You can be an expensive w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:20 PM
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It's pathetic there are humans out there that think garbage Men or plumbers are beneath them especially Women who think that. They made this statement which you kind've glossed over their point too, which is referring to what was once normal standards is now not normal standards - because women's standards have completely warped. Women seem to have now seen normal guys with good paying jobs as beneath them if the job has no real social status. Men have done similar in how men expect supermodels …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:28 AM
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The attitude that your way is the correct one and others are just delusional just adds to the confusion. Only because since we have become more modern in relationships we see rise in divorce, dropping marriage rates, dropping birth rates, more toxicity between men and women, more loneliness in both men and women, a huge increase in women who have anxiety/depression and using therapy and antidepressants. And a large number of women being used for sex, being unsatisfied by the hookup culture reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:06 AM
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My point is that women de facto won't be happy with men who don't meet our standards, Yes thats kind true for all human beings... it goes without saying. What is there to really debate on that? So the only really debating point is on the fact that standards have shifted to sometimes stupid things that no one will ever really be satisfied until people start to get more realistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:01 AM
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The original person's point is women's standards have shifted to self destructive levels where they will never really be happy if they lowered their standards to even be normal standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:26 AM
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Oh lol my bad i misread
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:25 AM
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Dunno if i find that conflicting, i just ignore the modern view and stick to my usual self. lol Those who have a modern view i just ignore because they are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:25 AM
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We're expected to work like we don't have kids when we do and raise those kids like we don't work I sense more pressure coming from women on that one. With the sluts/prude i think it depends on the guy. Some guys like sexually reserved women others like slutty women so its more about coming across variety of preferences in men on that one. Is that conflicting though, people are going to vary in what they like after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:33 PM
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I don't have a choice to avoid half naked women, and women promoting their asses online and i have no way to avoid it. Just scrolling X and then suddenly WHAM big juicy ass promoting her onlyfans inbetween comments talking about politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:29 PM
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Both genders have conflicting expectations put on them. What are men's conflicting expectations in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:28 PM
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Was it this one: https://twitter.com/firasd/status/1732430176724697097
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:49 PM
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They become like the young men in their 20ies, bitter towards the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:49 PM
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The problem is more why is an honest job like a plumber suddenly shameful in the modern day. A handyman used to be a very masculine and desirable trait. Now women prefer dudes with social clout on instagram over a hard working plumber etc. Plumbers earn damn good money too! Why are they ashamed or embarrassed by it. Hell if you don't use instagram etc thats almost a red flag to most women now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:46 PM
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You seem to know a lot about your ex wife's dating life...kind've odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:43 PM
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It would possibly make them bitter.. women just need to be realistic in their standards some are definitely delusional and leads them to dead beats without realising it, or a guy so far out of their league that the guy doesn't really take them seriously but is easy access to sex and cheats on her. Then shes 30 and has wasted her time. If she just had realistic standards she would probably get some where. Women get more realistic as they get older. When they 18 they often want a 6ft 2 guy earning…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:39 PM
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You're spoilt for choice in your 20ies, it's entirely your own doing by not taking the opportunity to pick a viable guy when you could.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 11:46 AM
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That doesn't mean we don't want male only spaces though just because women want to in them all doesn't mean they should be
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:30 AM
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Doesn't change the fact that men are the ones that created such a society. Men lack a lot of empathy for other men - men are pretty misandrist to men by ways of lack of caring about any one but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:04 AM
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Doesn't change the fact it's an option even if its risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:23 AM
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You're not being genuine in your arguments at all. I am almost reading this like you're trying to be a troll or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:19 AM
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Why would the community exist BEFORE they were incels? And if you weren't an incel why would you seek out the incel community? These things are created / found after the fact someone is an incel not the other way around. The same way Tate didn't start any particular thing hes a symptom of a pre-existing sentiment young men seem to have. Otherwise no one would listen to him. Whether the community turns toxic is another matter, they got pushed to make their own because they got pushed out being ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:50 PM
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Bold of you to assume it doesn't. Men certainly do have a pattern of going after the same woman more often than you would suggest. Where did you get this conclusion from ? Are you talking hookups or actual relationships? Men definitely do not like to be with women who have been with a lot of guys so that doesn't add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:24 PM
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Everyone knows that taken men are more attractive to women, but taken women aren't really more attractive to men. Why? ​ Men don't like competition. We don't need validation from other men that a woman is worth dating. Men want to be the first and last where possible. We can see with our own eyes if shes beautiful... i don't need men to tell me this. The metrics of whether a man is worth dating is not visible because they are character attributes. For women its how she looks which is we can see …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:22 PM
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Lolz, you realize that mentality does the exact opposite. That mentality had created inc*ls I wouldn’t call them the most happy, mentally healthy dudes out there. That mentality never created incels. Incels are always going to be incels because they always had mental health problems to start with. An overwhelming number incels are on the autistic spectrum...The idea that male created subcultures "created" incels is not really grounded in facts. They were already incels and THEN they created thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:12 PM
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You would have to ask them for the source but pretty sure OF posts its data once a year somewhere and i recall seeing similar data.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:08 PM
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I do believe that women are afforded a 90% bonus over men in the "trust worthy, love worthy, and gift / help worthy" traits, and that that preference is unearned and undeserved. Entirely men's doing because men don't form strong brotherhoods. They waste their time over attractive women because they thirsty. Can't really blame those women being delusional or acting how they act if men literally act how they act towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:50 PM
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Ppl (especially men) wouldn’t watch the podcasts if they were just regular women. Regular women aren’t attractive enough or exciting enough. I would if it led to a good heated debate. It's quite boring having women on the show that nod and agree with the hosts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:47 PM
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How did 2-6% suddenly turn into half…? I live in a city of 5 million and have lived in New York. Not one woman I am friends or acquainted with has an OF… Your little social circle isn't how we objectively figure out facts. Its around 1 in 8 women have signed up to OF or considered it under 35 based on sign up data - the user literally posted the info for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:45 PM
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They also kick out women who argue against their point in any real capacity. They always reach the point of saying "you're just arguing to argue" then kick them off for derailing the show lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:41 PM
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I don't think it is incorrect to say women probably have far more sexual experiences than men in the present day - certainly not 200+ body counts... but they definitely have more counts than men do. That is a relatively new phenomenon since social media gave women much easier access to a huge pool of thirsty men. Body counts of like 30 or so in the average university women would not surprise me...most have probably had a fair few threesomes as well if i had to guess. It would not be difficult fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:36 PM
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Yes, because blaming women for men not getting laid is productive and healthy and should be encouraged. Carry on then If it makes men feel mentally better and thus avoid them turning angry/violence or suicidal... logically thats probably a healthy outcome in men's eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:29 PM
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it's not clear to me that women understand why men of varying ages typically prefer younger women. They often get triggered by it possibly because when they aren't young anymore they feel like they are helpless since theres no time machine for them. Feelings drive a lot of women's reactions to things that are logical. Same way short guys can't get any taller - although they can now have surgery to be so i guess even short guys have a way to opt back into the dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:27 PM
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I know the whole point of this subreddit is to exchange communication, but my experience here has taught me that some things will just never be understood from the opposite sex. And thats fine as long as we can all be civil about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:24 PM
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Because thats not accurate and completely stupid thing to say? Most men have more options when they get older. It's women how lose options as they get older because they get uglier. Men's looks really aren't a major driving point in women's dating decisions like it is the other way around. And yes men do "make it" ... in their 30ies they typically outpace women in salaries and career ladders and starting to reach higher positions in the workplace where the money is reaching levels where you coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:23 PM
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Who told you that at 30 you can have the hottest women available just because your "worked in your career"?? Because having a successful career means you have money, possibly your own house, your own car, you've hopefully travelled a bit, you've figured out your hobbies and interests, you can afford nice suits and to go to fancy places. You're financially secure/stable... All of these things are desirable to a woman so your career directly relates to your dating successes as a man. Which is a fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:21 PM
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They need to talk about their problems and feelings in a more productive and healthy way than simply laying the blame for everything wrong with their lives on “Chad” and women. They are - but for some reason productive and healthy is only under the guise of women approving of it. Men's idea of productive and healthy is however they see it to be. If it wasn't healthy and productive they wouldn't get involved in those subcultures. If you don't approve its lucky those subcultures are for men so you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:12 PM
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That's only in usa, tradcon in Europe doesn't have any mixing with politics and rights. Only usa struggles to separate the church and the state on the conservative side. But equally why be in any movement or community if you don't want to spread it to the rest of society because you beleive it is best for society to follow it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:35 AM
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I don't think so, even in this very sub I've seen women trying to get argumentative for me trying to explain things from a male perspective they just do not and will not get it. For example I got called out for attempting to explain why men like younger women typically, waste of time that was.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:33 AM
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Perhaps tradcon community is more for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:24 AM
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According to women it's already 1/6 given how so few men appear to be meeting their expectations lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:23 AM
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To be fair women are very intolerant to the realities of how men really think, borderline disgusted by it, so I'm not surprised men did their own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:20 AM
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What is your personal faith, if feminism and red pill are not suitable curious what might be? Feminism only promised space for men after solving women's problems which won't happen, they promised it to try get me to support feminism lol. Some men fell for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:18 AM
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"Men talk more about your problems and feelings" ​ > men make subcultures to talk to guys about their problems, feelings and views of the world ​ Result: "This is disheartening"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:18 AM
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There’s nothing wrong with their energy. People aren’t impressed by common things accomplished in their own age range. Okay not "wrong" but i like to be admired for my achievements and where i am at. If some one goes "meh" after I spend 10 years working on myself as an adult i'm hardly jumping for joy to spend time with them. ​ Plus older women objectively have experienced more. Naturally they won’t be easy to impress in comparison to younger women. Fair but equally they are less desirable to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:06 AM
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He really thinks younger women don’t want him for the same thing older women do. Like this is delusional. The older women who are into you don't typically treat you the same. Younger women kinda look up and admire you because of the accomplishments maybe not literally but the energy they give off is vastly different to the women of the same age who typically act more like they are not impressed by it but rather think it's "good enough" it's the wrong energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:30 AM
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Did she really lower her standards. Or she settled for somebody below her standards... which is a sure way to later resentment, dead bedrooms and in lucky cases divorce. Well the latter happens a lot, there are a lot of relationships where the bedroom is dead. If their standards were unrealistic then became realistic i don't think they lowered their standards, rather they adjusted them to be realistic. If they lowered them out of desperation to have a family which can happen because women have p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:17 PM
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There are no absolutes in anything that goes without saying but I see no reason why that is suffice to prevent normalising women approaching men if they want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:46 AM
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I'm speaking in generalities don't get your feelings invovled in the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:27 AM
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Don't think you can speak for all women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:25 AM
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Oh yes I have seen short clips of that. Never really got into podcasts they like 4 hours long - ain't got time for that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:02 AM
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They could go for guys their own age, right? They could and some do because some guys that age are luckily successful and doing well in life already. Other guys "fake" their success with bling and splashing money around pretending they are rich when they ain't. And so they literally have the same mentality has the women in their 30s. Yes but now that mentality means the attention is on me because i am the guy that fits the criteria so finally i get to enjoy an active dating life after years of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:54 AM
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I honestly thought i was getting scammed when a girl walked up to me. I started to look around to see if there were guys lurking to jump me and rob me or something. Turned out she legit was asking my number lol. It happens so rarely you put your guard up instinctively. I personally am all for normalizing women shooting their shot if they feeling it, life is too short not to go for something if you want it.... Men feel uncomfortable because it rarely happens, heck men feel uncomfortable when a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:49 AM
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Than those younger women didn’t want you from the start either. Those younger women would not even be in the equation when the guy is 20 because they would be too young? What are you talking about.... When he is 30+ they are in their 20ies looking for successful experienced guys which won't be guys their own age but rather it will be older guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:36 AM
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The women guys here like being around say they settled. That, or guys are only getting their experience of women from fresh and fit types podcasts. I'm not sure what fitness podcasts has to do with this? All i'll say is....just avoid ever saying "I settled" out loud because it might hurt your man's ego. We want to be the first choice not the settled choice thats just how our egos are. It would be like guy going "I wanted a hot girl but i settled for my girlfriend". That would hurt your feelings …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:32 AM
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So when men lower their standards, its realistic. When women do it, it’s settling? If a woman's standards are already realistic, but then due to pressures to have kids or whatever, opts for a guy below her realistic standards thats "settling" and a guy will be unhappy if he found out. If she had unrealistic standards then became more realistic, thats not settling thats just becoming more realistic like guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:31 AM
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How is that working out for yall? Last time I checked shaming women into lowering their standards has not resulted in more relationships forming and/or lasting. I don't think telling someone their standards are unrealistic is "shaming" lol. Unless you're that easily triggered by it. Saying "your standards are terrible you should be ashamed of yourself you're dumb" that would be shaming and not a good way to go about it. Frankly i don't really care if society fails to form relationships, the west…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:28 AM
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In my country prostitution is illegal but you can still pay for sex with an escort under the guise of what you said "paying for her time" which is a loophole. Lots of rich men do it, all the time. The law is pretty loose in USA as it is in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:27 AM
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Yeah but those women in their 20s who are now interested in a guy in his 30s, wouldn’t be interested if he was also in his 20s. Correct because in his 20ies he hadn't got his life together yet. So when a guy gets older he has options of younger women, and the next wave of 20ies men get shit luck until they get older and the cycle continues. The reverse is true with women, since men like younger women, women get alot of attention when young because of their looks, then as they get older the atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:18 AM
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I mean, without the prospect of jail time. I just said as far as i am aware its perfectly legal to sell sex online as in to offer sex in exchange for money. Sugar daddies exist, people fly women out for sex, theres also escorts and women who sell "girlfriend experiences" and mistresses for kink etc. What's not legal is prostitution which is a very specific type of sexual service..these are women who sell sex in the street or who operate brothels etc. This is usually an offline setup and operates…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:13 AM
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The problem with the concept of settling is that most people understand that perfection is impossible. Thats kind've what men complain about with women's expectations, the same way women complain about men expecting women to be like pornstars in the bedroom. But a man opting not to have a porn star in the bedroom isn't really "settling" he just eventually became realistic... which wouldn't be insulting to any one to say he just became a bit more mature about it. But women say they settle which m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:12 AM
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f a 6’2 tall 300k earner man is what she wants anything below that is settling for her. A fair argument, but once you actually get her to realise how ridiculous her standards are then she sets a realistic one then its fine - so then shes lowers her standards after having reasonable standards thats going to be insulting to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:09 AM
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You can if there are women selling it - plenty websites for that if you're looking to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:08 AM
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And how is that refuting what she says? From what i understood she is saying the next wave of women in their 20ies would still not be interested in the guys who are 30ies if the girls were not into them when the guys were in their 20ies? Or did i misunderstand? Because if thats what she is saying, she is simply incorrect because at 30 you should have your career on point, your own home/car, experience and just be more mature generally. Which is more attractive to women compared to when your 20 s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:03 AM
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Sex work is legal but prostitution which is a subset of sex work is only legal in one state. As far as im aware it's legal to sell sex online on your own such as through onlyfans or whatever...to have sex with someone for money anywhere in USA. But to advertise it in the commercial business sense is only legal in Nevada. Same goes in most of Europe too. So only Nevada can legally have brothels etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:43 AM
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There is such a thing as unrealistic standards and being settled for as being an insult - they can both coexist it's not hard to grasp. If a woman is 5ft 3 and wants a guy 6ft 2 and earning 300k a year when she looks bare average....that is stupid standards so of course people will call it out. At the same time, women lowering their standards and accepting you as a last resort is equally rather insulting to the guy who gets chosen from that criteria. The equivalent exists for women and they too …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:37 AM
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The same women that didn’t want you when you were younger will be the same for the 20 year old in the present. This is pure delusion. No because when a man is 30 hes got a career and life experience, possibly his own place and is older. Younger women find that attractive. When a man is 20 hes probably still living at home, not much money, low life experience so the 20 year old women then were more attracted to the more successful older guys as i previously described. It's well known as guys get …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:52 AM
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Yeah but the games the game, everyone tries different strategies
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:46 AM
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Well if you're not a man why would you understand? And you don't need to understand either. I don't understand why women care so much about the jobs us men have or our education level when we don't really care about women's job or education as it has no indicator on how well a relationship will be. But thats life. You surely know most men do not like women having a sexual past wherever possible, or doing only fans or porn or posting nudes online etc. Even if it was 10 years ago, most guys will n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:07 AM
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Because sex is a real big deal for men, so it's not completely unfounded? Men often like to start with sexual compatibility much to the annoyance of many women - thats just how men are. Most men initiate and approach a girl initially based on sexual attraction, no man approaches a girl on the premise of "bet shes got a great personality"... it literally starts with butt, boobs and attractive face. This might be an alien concept to women who need a more emotional connection first. So if a girl wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:03 AM
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It's a fair point but i would argue a guy in his 20ies working on his career is the same guy in his 30ies but with more money and they overlooked him for materialistic reasons. It was his drive that got him to where he is at 30. Women want you at the finish line not whilst you grind to get there. Once you're at the finish line you're going to want the hottest woman you can get because now you get attention and have options your standards go up. Much like how women have high standards from the ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:41 AM
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The chance of hook is much lower in your 30ies than early 20ies so its not so drama fueled later in life to be friends with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:04 AM
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It is highly likely their plan all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:02 AM
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Thats why guys go for younger women because they want you from the start. The women your age didn't want you when you were in your 20ies so why would you want them now you made it in your 30ies whilst they slept around having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:02 AM
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But if this is true than why does TRP and the manosphere encourage guys to take success of their newfound sucess in their 30s, if that success is crap though? Well they tell them to date younger women not the 30ies something women that didn't want you when you were in your 20ies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:43 PM
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If she didn't want you when you were up and coming why should she have you once you're made?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:42 PM
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Does that not indicate you'll likely be in relationships with women who have slept with a lot guys though, not sure that's much better in most men's eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:05 AM
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I’m saying if a woman is lonely in a relationship then he’s not useful to her. Being lonely in a relationship means there’s no intimacy really. I don't think those are the same thing. When you say loneliness i tend to think lack of friends/social life not a lack of intimacy from your partner. I don't know anyone who would say lack of intimacy or dates equates to being lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:24 AM
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If a man isn’t useful then he’s useless Not seeing how that relates to him and your lack of social life, its not on him to recruit friends for you? Why do you link your loneliness to the man's utility to you ? Men don't provide you a social life they provide provisions and security. Your own friends is not the man's responsibility, thats kind've weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:02 AM
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My point is men use being lonely as a shaming tactic to get women to settle with them. I don't know if it's to make women settle for them but rather to make themselves feel better. But women do the same thing in other aspects of life. I remember when there was an article about men not having as much sex as women which turned out to be wrong but so many women gloated about it along the lines of "well men are trash and women are wising up" etc. So women get off on trashing on men to make themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 11:46 PM
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Women can easily feel lonely in relationships with men but men don’t ever mention that nor care to try & combat that. Is that really men who need to mention it or combat it? I don't think it's men's responsibility for women's loneliness and more than women's responsibility for men's loneliness. which is why women are choosing to be lonely & single than lonely and in a relationship. Why would you choose a double negative? Unless the relationship isn't going well there is no logic to choose single…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 10:15 PM
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If by "naturally" you mean men using their greater size and threat of male violence to gain female compliance, as "natural" sure. I see it as coercion and indoctrination, personally. Yes, we are animals and thus naturally men dominated because nature made men bigger and more intimidating and more prone to violence.. thats still nature??? Are you going to say thats artificial? We're not robots you know??? We are animals and for the last 300,000 years no one cared about morality until maybe the la…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 09:44 PM
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The point about autism is that it amplifies interests which means there's a biological component to interests it even amplified yours you must admit not many women care about trains and motorbikes but your biological makeup amplified it for you making you more an outlier in those interests so that cannot be entirely indoctrination. There is only one known matrileaneal society called the mucoso society, even there the men have similar roles as every other society. The draft is forced I'm talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 09:56 AM
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Because even in tribes separate from modern society women take up the same roles. It is far too overwhelming and persistent in both time and varieties of cultures for it to be indoctrination. Also being a nurse is a free choice, as is a teacher as is child care or charity work. Women choose to do them far more than men. Is it indoctrination that more men join the military, or police? Of course not they are just more suited to the more extreme physical stuff. Men aren't nurses because they genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 09:32 AM
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AI is not going to generate a physical human, why would more porn end prostitution? AI connected to sex toys could be sufficient for a lot of guys out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:28 AM
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Hopefully I am alive by 2080 or 2070 and that such thing is top notch tech. I will put all my money in it, have high hopes. I am not being sarcastic, this is a legit way to end human prostitution and I am all for it! :) 2070? More like 2028. There is already companies making sex toys integrated with ai voice and video generation.. its going to happen far quicker than you realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:28 AM
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Is this a joke? How often do you hear red-pilled guys rant away about how single women over 30 are “bitter and surrounded by cats and boxes of wine”? They are talking about lack of relationship/family not loneliness in sense of friendships and general social connections....which a lot of men don't have and are considered "red flags" by women - which isn't without merit but its a real thing. Women ain't dating guys with no social life lol Men will still date a girl without a social life though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:26 AM
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I agreed. The thing that seems to be bothering the average man is that they’re unlikely to end up married in the first place. I think the vast majority of men don't want to get married due to the cost of divorce especially those under 35 (i'm included). I am not seeing lots of men desperately seeking a wife out there. I certainly don't mind cohabiting and having long term relationship with someone but marriage is out of the question for me. I don't like the government involved in love. Especiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:20 AM
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f they leave their assets have to be split which is something most men would want to avoid. If married but marriage rates are tanking for this very reason. So in future it won't likely be an issue for men to up and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:07 AM
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Men cheat more than women though the gap is closing, even though its easier for women to cheat they are still more loyal because for a lot of women a random hook up isn't all that satisfying to begin with unlike for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:06 AM
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Red pill dudes say women are much more prone to leave their husbands (or cheat on them) when things get difficult. This is true if early into a relationship or if its financial struggles. 10 years into a marriage perhaps it would be less true. Financial struggles is one of the biggest reasons women leave (after infidelity).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:05 AM
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A man stuck caring for someone who cannot work on his career is destined to be alone for life. If you don't have a career you're never going to have a family of your own because women don't want to date you if you have nothing going for you in life. This is not the case for women, women can take a hit career wise and still have a future and a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:03 AM
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There are some men that view women that way Those men don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:01 AM
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I think its because we're conditioned to be caregivers Are you conditioned to be overwhelmingly nurses, teachers, therapists and carers and contributors to charity? Such overwhelming differences between men and women isn't "conditioning" at that point, its an innate component that a lot of women want to care for others and provide to their community some manner especially on a social level. Men prefer a more mechanical provision to society, building/fixing etc. Hence why men dominate constructio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:00 AM
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but what i don't understand is why are women much more likely to stay while the man is sick Same reason more women want to be nurses than men. Women are more likely to be carers and to want to provide support for someone in need. Also the same reason more women do charity than men do. There's a nature element in women's nature to care for others. Maternal instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:58 PM
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Then discuss that idea to your partner you have to have been together some years before even getting married anyway.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/23 12:40 PM
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I'm just explaining why men don't propose anymore men avoid risks.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/23 08:22 AM
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How is being married a higher commitment? Other than titles it's the same thing day after your marriage as it was before only now you have a legal binding which becomes a nightmare if your marriage breaksdown.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/23 08:21 AM
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I get your point but I disagree not all cultures even have a concept of a marriage. Its a ceremony created by religion. Love is a human emotion it isn't invented. So love and marriage are separate things are don't need to exist together. Men avoid marriage to avoid the risk of divorce. It isnt a total generalisation because stats literally show high divorce rates and low marriage rates. Less than half will be married in the gen z age group.
/r/RedPillWomen02/01/23 08:19 AM
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You can’t just say that men don’t care about marriage when that’s objectively not true. It is objectively true, marriage rates are at their lowest ever and are continuing to decrease, it isn't just marriage its also birth rates and sexual activity and relationships..as a whole men are increasing withdrawing from all of it - we see the extreme cases of this in Japan and South Korea. Men's attitudes to marriage have become more negative over time whereas women's has not. You really think they don'…
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/23 08:05 AM
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People assign importance to different things and that’s okay. Yes and men do not assign marriage as important hence why not getting proposals is something you should learn to either accept or possibly be alone. Lots of people on RPW are women and women care but the topic is about men not proposing and not wanting marriage. ​ Yes wearing a dress and all that is fun for women but it tells men often that you care more about that than the actual relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen01/01/23 12:16 AM
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I’ve had many friends who whinge and whine to me that they do xyz (cooking, cleaning, crazy sex shit) for a man who won’t even commit to them. Why do it? Marriage is not the same as commitment. You can commit without marriage if you don't realise that you must live in a country that still heavily thinks marriage is super important when it simply isn't. If a man don't commit its because you ain't the one. And commitment isn't expressed by marriage. Other than a ring on your finger and some legal …
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 09:15 PM
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Or they discover younger women will date them now, and due to that shoulder chip they feel no obligation to date women their own age No one has an obligation to do anything anyway to start with.
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 09:12 PM
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I think the problem is that there’s no real incentive to marry because they get all the perks of a wife without the big flash wedding. That’s why I say don’t do wifey shit if you’re not a wife. Thats incredibly materialistic you sound 19 years old. Who cares about the wedding thats just a expensive "look at us we are in love" party and not at all important in the grand scheme of things.
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 07:09 AM
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I was awarded child support and collected none. I'm not sure what country/state you are from but normally the law will force the man whether you collect or not. I guess its very exceptionally different where you are. I don’t need material things Because it sounds like you got a good income, but that means you're an exception because most women want a man more successful than themselves so the material is important. But we are on a tangent now anyway. The general point is in the modern times men …
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 03:48 AM
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Or vice versus - I made the most money. That explains why the money was kept apart then - when don't typically try to extort money in divorce thats what women do. Thought that was unusual but it makes sense now that you earned more than him. Usually since women earn less they try to get as much as they can out of their ex. But since you earned more you somehow convinced him to not take yours. ​ But you would still get money off him and custody of the kids even if you earned more than him or did …
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 02:20 AM
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They both knew very well I was old-fashioned in that sense and that I believe in marriage, not living together. Did they express a desire to marry though ? Did you even check for shared values before committing to them ? If you have "old fashioned" lifestyle choice, which is fine, then that would explain the no proposals. Most people live together before marriage to make sure you are a good fit and reduce the chance of marriage becoming a divorce. If you got married then realised you hated livin…
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 02:08 AM
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If you don't have kids it can be a little bit easier if you agree to not mix the money. But once you got kids - the government will force him to pay and also force him to become a weekend father and for a lot men thats not worth marriage.
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 01:59 AM
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I didn't even live with those 2 bfs. I never believed in cohabitation and my time still got wasted. Well you didn't live with them so clearly they never thought it was going any where - did you even express to wish to live with them ?
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 01:57 AM
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Unfortunately you are in a generation of adults where men didn’t learn to be men This doesn't relate to marriage at all. Marrying or not is not part of the definition of being a real man. We live in a generation now where men realise they get the raw end of the deal in a marriage if it fails. To the point now that it isn't worth it. Men are still forming relationships and cohabiting and having kids - just less so marrying. I am not sure what men get out of a marriage that they can't out of just …
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 01:37 AM
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At networking events or hangout, or meetups, at least in my city, guys don’t really approach girls. This is not unique to your city this is quickly becoming a global phenomenon with extreme cases showing in Japan and South Korea where men are avoiding women in record numbers even on a friendship level so much so that governments are trying to encourage people to have children due to population issues. I imagine a lot of men believe or have experienced negative responses from their approaches (I …
/r/RedPillWomen31/12/22 01:24 AM
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The average Joe's settle for the average Jane's. Even though both would prefer the best in their fantasies. Its that group that cheat the most. With men typically doing more of it than the women on average. Probably because they can just pay for it discretely with little time and effort where as women have to put time in to meet a man and keep it secret somehow.
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/22 02:10 PM
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They do but that wasn't what I implied in my post. Men who settled for less than what they really desired are more likely to cheat than the very successful men who typically get what they truly desired. So they cheat more as opposed to successful men. But yeah men cheat more than women anyway but that's a different topic.
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/22 01:51 PM
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I guess that is true. But it’s soooooo many that think that way that it’s hard to see past the numbers It's not unique to humans its just biology which explains the numbers. Males in other species will quite literally eradicate the other male and his offspring to secure his place. in humans men want to secure their place by being the first i guess and thats why theres a natural desire for virginal women - i don't think it's a conscious thing. In the same way women prefer experienced men, so natu…
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/22 07:36 AM
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I often wonder if men's preferences will change Us men are the most stubborn and unchanging in our wants and desires since the dawn of time - don't expect a change in your lifetime. What men want today is pretty much no different to what they wanted 1,000 years ago. The only reason you see men not always have what they want is because they realise they can't so have to compromise (and they are the ones who cheat more because they are not happy they didn't get everything they wanted). At 20 and a…
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/22 12:32 AM
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It's actually 5% for Tinder currently - not sure about other apps.
/r/RedPillWomen24/12/22 08:06 AM
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If problem after problem keeps arising you have to at some point question if its worth still fighting for this relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen02/11/22 09:28 PM
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Why would agreeable women encourage to leave? They would be agreeing with her thinking process instead of giving her actual solutions.
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/22 10:46 PM
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man finds his girlfriend in bed with another man and shoots the man that dead. The video clip is quite violent. The Wikipedia page doesn’t even have a section to critique the track, the singing, the video. Is silence meaning this is acceptable by society? Had he shot his girlfriend it would not be silent is what I believe. The fact he shot the man would suggest no one really cared because you see depictions of men murdering men all the time in media like TV shows / Movies. For example, murder sc…
/r/MensRights11/02/21 04:25 AM
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Did anything change? An individual worker won't be suing Amazon any time soon.
/r/MensRights11/02/21 02:22 AM
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By the way, a simple example of some comments on youtube of the actual song in question: https://imgur.com/3mavy3U Women laugh about literally being abusive and destroying a man's property and play it down. There's many comments joking about it. But there are women out there who do this stuff to men and get away with it.
/r/MensRights11/02/21 01:04 AM
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I don’t think it’s fine for anyone to sing it. I think if you survey people on the specific language and ask them to actually listen to the words of the lyrics most won’t think it’s fine either. Except it is in a very popular song and the artist never got cancelled. But if a man did it would go down like a brick. Even if people say in a survey it is unacceptable - society still seems to give a pass on it.
/r/MensRights11/02/21 01:01 AM
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I think it’s fine to call out the issues. I feel that the comparative structure of this post of men vs women with the examples chosen is poor. Well i agree on that, had he compared it to lyrics of male rappers etc this argument would be dead in the water. I personally just take issue with lyrics like: “I bust the windows out your car. You should feel lucky that that’s all I did. Which is literally abusive and threatening and would never fly if a man sang it, yet a woman sings it and its fine. Bu…
/r/MensRights11/02/21 12:07 AM
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It's not about cherry picking, its about if a man said similar lyrics in his song aimed at an ex girlfriend, how would society react... it would be people saying he is promoting abusive behaviour towards at her for leaving him, and people trying to cancel him on twitter you know I am right here. But it's okay if a woman sings it. There are some women who are abusing towards men by smashing stuff. But its normalised in pop songs when women sing it. I am not saying "all women are this" or "all men…
/r/MensRights10/02/21 11:04 PM
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But how is this a men's rights issue? Become an artist as a man and sing a song along the lines of: “I bust the windows out your car. You should feel lucky that that’s all I did. Aimed at a woman and see how far your career gets. You'll be cancelled in a day on twitter.
/r/MensRights10/02/21 09:54 PM
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Pretty biased selection as usual for this forum. Broad generalist statements that have a lot of cherry picking. What about some Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Whitney Houston. Find me a single male artist where he sings something similar to threating to bust the girl's windows or laughing at her when she cries. You won't because people would be pretty angered by it.
/r/MensRights10/02/21 09:52 PM
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Sorry, this page was recently deleted (within the last 24 hours). The deletion, protection, and move log for the page are provided below for reference. WTF
/r/MensRights10/02/21 09:36 PM
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They are like incels They are incels imo. Though i guess some men might sleep with them, though thats not exactly an achievement given how thristy some men are.
/r/MensRights10/02/21 09:29 PM
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You literally used an advert that got tons of backlash online for objectifying women in 2014 on twitter to the point the advert was pulled. This was an awful example, lmao. The amazon ad has been praised by most women on twitter, it's the complete opposite reaction which highlights the hypocrisy of women.
/r/MensRights10/02/21 09:22 PM
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Bikini babes have been in commercials for years. Who the hell cares. Not in a long time except to sell bikini's. Also the commercial literally plays around the idea of her being a cheater in front of her own husband whilst the husband looks like helpless fool.
/r/MensRights10/02/21 09:20 PM
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Sue amazon ? I mean come on who is going to be manage that....
/r/MensRights10/02/21 09:19 PM
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The opposite scenario looks much different because society knows that men have the sexual power over women, they know that male sexuality is superior. You're an idiot. Clearly you're not aware of how easy it is for women regarding sex compared to men if you think men some how have some superior role. Its easier for women to cheat and get laid by a significant margin compared to men because other men are always thirsty and ready to go.
/r/MensRights10/02/21 09:18 PM
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