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PlagueDoctorD/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:40 AM
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Many ways. Depends on how strict you want to be. From a soft approach like giving single women tripple taxes or a hard approach of literal government forced cohabitation and marriage, there are tons of ways, in the extremes and in-between.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:59 AM
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If its the only option then hotness doesnt matter. I like tall pale shorthaired girls and am passionately against smoking. If my options were "Forever Alone" or "Small tanned longaired chain-smoker whos overweight" id chase the latter in a heartbeat. You have no concept of how miserable it is to be forever alone. Most FA men would be okay with literally anything if they got a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:52 AM
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Many would, but even 1/10 women dont give 1/10 men a shot. A broke, jobless, fat, ugly, unfeminine, overemotional, socially awkward, desperate 30 year old virgin woman could find a boyfriend pretty quickly. Wouldnt be an above 5/10, but she could. A broke, jobless, fat, ugly, unmasculine, overemotional, socially awkward, desperate 30 year old virgin man is shit out of luck. No woman will ever be with him. Not even the above described. If women went for their equals there would be a lot less ince…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:04 AM
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Women would go into public buildings and just smash and destroy stuff en masse, and due to chivalry it was seen as unmanly and brutal to be violent to women in public, so the men that were around just let them do it. They didnt attack people, as that would warrant violent interference, they just did lots of property damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:45 PM
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If it is genetic and not learned, then there should be a way to alter or remove it from the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:11 PM
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You certainly can. If tomorrow we discovered Hollow Earth is real, and the civilization beneath us is exactly like us in every way, but has the biological imperative to kill and eat their own children if they show maladaptive traits, like being disabled, needing glasses, being slighty below average in anything, etc, then their civilization would be seen as evil and monstrous by everyone. Because it is. Something being a genetic impulse is no excuse. Society exists to curb our worst impulses so w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:17 PM
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I agree in a way. Its the only probable and realistic way. I hope the coming conservative pendulum shift isn't the "Women are Ladies and fragile Flowers" type of conservatism, but rather a more strict and effective one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:01 PM
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They literally did though. Being in a relationship did fix all of my mental problems that years of therapy couldnt even dent. And like i said, its a common trend with ex-incels. You think im putting women on a pedestal when i am talking basic facts. And none of my friends were incels. I met incels through the internet and irl travels. My personal friends around me were fine. I was the odd one out. I am not advocating for average men. I am advocating for below average men. The un-masculine, broke…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:07 PM
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This, but unironically. No one should live their entire life without a partner. No one deserves to live a life without intimacy. Any measure is justified if it helps ensure that literally everyone can easily get a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:44 AM
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The west is soft and weak. If women lost their right to vote tomorrow youd have a couple of months of protests and thats it. Especially in Corona Times. Itd be George Floyd 2.0. Ineffective protests paired with opportunistic rioters that make the protesters look bad. "Yeah, i like women, but these protests are affecting my everyday life."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:43 AM
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Thats a way. Making it mandatory to be in a relationship, having all relationships registered by the government and limiting lesbian relationships to the number of registered gay male relationships is another. Arranged marriages for everyone is another. Making women that are not in a straight relationship pay 80% income tax is another. There are many more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:06 PM
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Then fairness should be governmentally enforced with an iron fist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:01 PM
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When genetic engineering becomes an affordable thing in 80-200 years, the government will be able to legislate biology. Women will rally against having their offsprings hypergamy switched off, citing discrimination and "killing an essential part of womanhood", mark my words.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 09:49 PM
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Thats how it works though. Outliers exist, but on the whole men are Robots and women are batteries. Batteries can exist on their own just fine, but Robots need to be charged to function properly. They can work on fumes for quite a while but eventually they do need those batteries to function properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:07 PM
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Im talking about single people. Sure, actual coupleds are often in the same range, but im saying most LVWs dont even let that happen. Theyd rather be single than have someone actually in their lane. Even 2/10 women will not settle for anything less than a 5/10 man, and that leaves most 4/10 and lower men with no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 11:53 AM
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It is. I have been very active in meetups and other irl activities with groups that include lots of LVMs and their equivalent women in the past all over my home country (Germany) and it was the same everywhere. And Germany is supposedly much milder in that regard than the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:03 AM
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Thats just not true though. Most ugly gals want nothing to do with ugly guys. Most awkward gals want nothing to do with awkward guys. Broke gals want ESPECIALLY nothing to do with broke guys. And an ugly, awkward, broke guy has almost 0% chance to get an ugly, awkward, broke gal to even look in his direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 09:10 AM
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If there was no other option, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:57 AM
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I was an incel for most of my life (though i didnt associate with the crowd. Was very egalitarian and left.), had crippling depression due to it and was fat due to depressive eating, and getting into a relationship literally fixed all my problems. Lost weight quick, felt happy for the first time since childhood and never slipped again. Lots of other ex-incels have similar stories. Sex isnt gonna fix you, but a relationship is. Multiple therapists didnt work. Meds didnt work. Having an active fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:46 AM
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That doesnt work. I was in that situation despite having friends. Many other ex-incels were, and many incels currently are like that. And a common trend between ex-incels is that all the mental agony disappeared entirely after getting a girlfriend. Like i said, you people never believe it. The only thing that helps is actually getting into a relationship. Nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:28 PM
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My dude, we are on the cusp of genetic engineering. Soon women choosing mates will be entirely obsolete as even Becky Ham and Nerdy Jack can have genetically healthy and strong kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:33 PM
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For many men, having an active romantic or sex life is necessary for happiness. And due to women's nature, their freedom is antithetical to male happiness. Men are like Robots, women are like batteries. The battery can exist by itself but the Robot needs the battery to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:01 PM
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You people never believe it when i say it but its true: For most forever alone men ANYTHING is better than staying that way. Most would be perfectly happy in a fully egalitarian society as long as they wont die without ever having had a relationship. If the choice was A) "continue as is", and B) "live in a world where the earth explodes in a year, but for that year they are in a relationship", them most would choose B. Because being forever alone is actual legitimate torture, and expecting peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:57 PM
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Id agree for guys who do get dates/relationships now and then. But if you have no options and odds are you will die without ever having had a relationship then anything is better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:48 PM
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Because men literally need it. You cant complain when someone suffering from severe pain cries for medicine, because they need it and it is inhumane to deny them that. If men who are forever alone just felt sexual frustration, id agree with you. But like i said, it is literally one of the worst things a human can go through. No one deserves that. Not emotional men, not broke men, not short men, not bald men, not awkward men, and not even emotional, short, bald, broke and awkward men. And its not…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:30 PM
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Because women are literally the only ones who can fix that loneliness for men. And another time, you are a prime example why the middle east treats its women right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:17 PM
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No. I think LVMs do not deserve the crushing despair that comes from being forever alone. The women shouldnt be mindless slaves. They should do normal couple things, have their own friendgroups and interests, etc. All the stuff normal couples do. You are trying to make it look like me not wanting these people to live a life of suffering means i want the whole world to bend to their every whim. No. I just want them to be able to live a life that isnt filled with pain and suffering because they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:02 PM
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Never said it did. You brought up my personal dislike of women, so i responded. Stop projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:08 PM
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Yes. I hate women because they let LVMs suffer. If every LVM could easily get a girlfriend i wouldnt hate women. Its that simple. As long as no one has to be alone, egalitarianism and women's rights all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:54 PM
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We already went through it. The hard conservative backswing is inevitable and it consists of a lot of people who hate women. So id rather wait here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:47 PM
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Like i said two times, that mindset proves the middle east treats its women right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:40 PM
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Right. We live in an age where letting people suffer for no reason is considered monstrous and evil. If you want to pretend we are still in a time where survival is difficult and we are at natures complete whim, then go and live in a cave somewhere. We are past letting nature decide who suffers unjustly, or hospitals, glasses, heating, refridgeration, food shelters, end-of-life-care, pensions, retirentment homes, etc, etc, etc wouldnt exist. Appeals to nature are an incredibly stupid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:21 AM
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Right. Thats why i said am not egalitarian anymore. I was for most of my life though. I dont care about procreation. Sterilize LVMs for all i care. Just dont let them suffer the agony of being forever alone. Fuck economic, political or social advantage. I only care about no one needing to be forever alone. That is it. If that could be achieved by treating women equally, perfect. It cant though. So they shouldnt. Like i said, if women paired up with their equals 1 to 1, none of this would be nece…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:02 AM
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Im against death. Everything else is fine though. Its not about you wanting tall men. Its about women in general spurning certain kinds of men. If women paired up with men 1 to 1 then id still be an egalitarian. Most forever alone men arent creeps. They just dont have masculine qualities, money or good looks. Nothing that makes them deserve enduring crippling loneliness. Being a weirdo is not a sin deserving of being forever alone. They are plenty of female weirdos too. They should just date the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:40 AM
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Yeah. Thats why i said the way they treat women is right, not anything else. And a hard conservative backswing in the west is inevitable. And since most far-right youth today have incredibly low opinions of women, the future will be interesting to see. Its not going to be pleasant for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:00 AM
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Im stating the truth. Most men need partners, even LVMs. And women are literally the only people who can fix that problem. But they are perfectly content letting these men suffer. Which brings me to my original point: "Purge week is proving more and more that middle eastern societes have it figured out when it comes to women."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:32 AM
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Im saying that men as a whole need partners and that most men cannot live without a partner forever. Its not about me . I have a partner. Its about the millions of men women let suffer. You dont even aknowledge a single one of my points and when you cant argue anymore you act like im whining about myself. Arguing with women is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:07 AM
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Yes, but i have been around a lor and everywjere i go lonely men are the same. And thats just IRL. Most online communities of lonely men have them report the same. I have been through multiple therapists for depression before i met my wife and all have said that this kind of depression is becoming more and more common among men, a lot of whom do have friends. You ignoring reality doesnt make it disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:59 AM
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No, as someone who had friends but no partner for most of his life and met plenty others in the same situation: You need a partner. It is the only thing that helps. Not therapy, not meds, not friends, a girlfriend. Maybe women can live without, but most men cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:47 AM
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Like i said, you live in Fantasyland. Plenty of LVM are lonely to an unhealthy degree entirely without choice. You are the one trying to deny the reality that being partnerless forever is incredibly painful and unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:39 AM
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Idk, if society breaks down the skinny weirdo with a million guns and a bunker with supplies seems more safe to me than Chad McMuscles. They may be one and the same depending on where you live, but if you had to choose id take my bet with bunker boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:29 AM
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I am specifically talking about the suffering that comes from being forever alone. That is what we have been talking about this whole time, so i thought i didnt have to specify the obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:19 AM
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In every woman is a little Nazi General just waiting to come out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:13 AM
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I never viewed women as sex objects. I was an egalitarian feminist most of my life who actually did something. I helped women escape abusive relationships. I and a team stopped little girls from being flown off-country for circumcision. I went around with others and tried to better lives for women in arch-conservative villages. I cared about female suffering greatly because i thought it was unfqir, unjust, and horrifying. But women do not care about male suffering at all. Its disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:00 AM
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No, it just means youre wrong when youre wrong. "I dont like X" is a subjective view. "Apples are purple and 2 + 2 equals 34. Sand is soft and sunlight feels cold." is objectively wrong "Lonely men just want sex and being alone forever isnt that bad." is objectively wrong because most lonely men do explicitely want a connection with a girl and not just sex. In fact, there is a trend of lonely men feeling no better after getting laid, but feeling basically reborn after getting into a full relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:11 AM
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Reality is literally the one thing that is 100% purely objective. You live in Fantasyland though, so i guess it makes sense you believe nonsense like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:55 PM
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Keep denying reality then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:39 PM
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Yes. That doesnt mean sex is all they want from women. Most lonely men want a relationship. Not a sex-buddy, not a friend, a girlfriend. Sexual and non-sexual intimacy. Not just sex. That is what lonely men need. The lack of which for their entire lives leads to the state of constant agony i described before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:34 PM
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You are wrong on every level. Most lonely men explicitely dont just want sex. You have a completely fantastical view of what LVMs are like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:22 PM
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Its not just about sex. Its sex and non-sexual intimacy. I have an incredibly low libido (Id be okay with sex once a month but my wife likes it much more often.) and yet i still went through that. You are talking out of your ass. No. Some men do. Most dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:09 PM
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You dont know what its like to have no options and are likely to be alone forever. It torments you mentally. You feel despair and pain 24/7. Nothing is enjoyable and can take your mind off the pain. As someone who had his legs destroyed in accident, id rather go through the painful reconstruction process again forever than to be in that situation again. It is one of the worst experiences a human can go through. So no. Most men cant live without a partner their whole lives. They can survive, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 10:49 PM
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Basic human empathy? Being forever alone is such intense existential agony that no one deserves it. Women being okay with letting men suffer like that provres that their historical oppression is 100% justified. "Why shouldnt these people who have done nothing wrong suffer one of the most painful and despairing lives a human could live? They were meant to suffer. We werent though, cause we are sexual selectors." Legitimately on par with Nazi ideology. Women are inhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:56 PM
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Purge week is proving more and more that middle eastern societes have it figured out when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:42 PM
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Ideally women would get over themselves and just date their equals and be happy with that. But since they are genetically designed to be picky to an absurd degree they will have to be forced. Something akin to sharia law or other systems designed to keep womens vile genetics in check. Any suffering endured through that is their own fault. They could just date lonely men willingly. Being forever alone is literally one of the worst experiences a human can have. Dating your equal is unpleasant at w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 07:45 PM
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If you look at the old Taliban rules they have stuff like "Behead a woman for laughing too loud in public." That is way too easy a way out for the evil, subhuman garbage that most women are. They should live and suffer. Beheadings or other killings are not the way. Death should never even be an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:37 AM
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It does, but its not the majority by far. Loneliness wears you down until you have no standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:33 AM
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I was never talking about that. I was talking about you saying people want hot women to fuck ugly guys. I was saying that a large number of below average people do not expect hot women to be all over them, they actually want women in their own league to give them a chance, which is not a common thing. Most ugly women still want at least an average guy, otherwise theyd rather be single. My issue is with the commen "Ugly losers just want supermodels to fuck them" rethoric, which is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:00 PM
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"I dont see it so its not true" is a kindergarten level argument. Fact is, there are lots of men who cant get a partner, and its not because they have too high standards. Sufficiently lonely men have next to no standards. They just want any partner. Like i said, i was majorly involved in spaces were unattractive men and women were common. Most of those women wouldnt date their male equal if their lives dependet on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:39 PM
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It was a major step in turning me from a lifelong feminist activist who helped stop girls from being sent to the ME for circumcision, helped women get out of abusive relationships, etc, into a full blown misogynist who thinks the Taliban are too soft in places. So yeah. Success? I dont know. It did something though, thats for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:24 PM
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Thats why the Taliban have a good system for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:18 PM
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Thats a strawman. Some people want that, sure, but a lot of people just want someone in their lane. Its not that hot women should be all over ugly men, its that ugly women shouldnt spurn ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:15 PM
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As someone who was lonely to the degree that it seemed impossible to ever get a partner (Ugly, passive, broke, all that good shit), i can say that that state of mind is worse than any physical agony. People like that are suffering more than most modern western women ever have combined. It is truly miserable. Just getting a girlfriend solved most of my problems and made me actually feel anything but deep abysmal despair again. Humans are not designed to be without a partner for their entire lives…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:51 PM
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Spoken like a true sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:39 PM
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Spoken like a true sociopath. Everyone deserves both love and sex. Even ugly broke losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:38 PM
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Cant the woman sue them then? Seems like discrimination, but idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:59 AM
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Youd be surprised. As someone who spent a lot of time in IRL nerd circles (Meet-Ups, Events, PnP, etc) the ugly couples are mostly REALLY into each other. Love to spend time together, majorly horny for each other to an awkward degree, even though both are hideous. Many ugly men would kill for any woman. The problem is that most ugly women do not want to be with ugly men. If ugly women went for their equal then the amount of incels would be reduced by 90%.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:40 AM
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There are people that can barely afford the internet who have to live without heat because they couldnt pay the bills otherwise. Many sexless people are too poor for an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 08:38 AM
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Many broke ugly nerds would be extatic to have a broke ugly nerdy girlfriend. But women do not want their equal. There are enough social fuckups of both sexes that we could easily pair everyone off, but loser women dont want anything to do with loser men. So its not about LV men having high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:34 AM
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Optionless lonely men are broke. I made less than 5k a year before i met my wife. If sex workers were cheap id agree with you. Modern men have nothing to do with the sins of past men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:14 AM
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Yeah, im not egalitarian now. I said i was for most of my life. Up until a year or two ago. If women paired up with men 1 to 1 i still would be. Most women are okay with a large number of men suffering their entire lives because they couldnt make a pussy wet. That is so cruel and evil that women should be given equally little consideration by these men. If you are okay with their suffering, why should they care about yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:57 AM
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My ideal world is one of egalitarianism. I was one most of my life. My post-history for most of my time on reddit is explicitely pro-woman. I was an IRL feminist activist for a long time. But egalitarianism only works if it doesnt make men miserable. I want a world of cooperation and love. But women are against that. If women paired up with men 1 to 1, if no man no matter his value had to be unloved and sexless, then egalitarianism would be worth it. Women dont need men, but men need women. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:38 AM
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Yes. Intimacy is a psychological need. Most men need it or they will go through debilitating mental suffering, despair and anguish. You are morally justified to get what you need by any means. My wife gave me a chance when i was fat, jobless, broke and depressed. Im none of these things now thanks to her. I am still non-masculine, passive, and a major gamer. Guess what? She just started gaming too and in exchange i got into musicals for her. If all women were like that, Rape would be completely …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:48 AM
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Ideally, yes. But if i am a NVM and my only choice is between a wife that doesnt want me yet still has sex with me/is non-sexually intimate or being alone forever then the choice is obvious. If you dont have options and are despised by the world for having the same sexual and romantic need as everyone else then the womans opinion matters less than the overwhelming suffering of loneliness. For average people id agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:15 AM
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The fact that so many women are in favour of their own oppression just proves that they are inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:14 PM
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Women dont need men the way men need women. Most women would rather have no relationship rather than having a relationship with someone they consider below average or worse. Most men would rather have a subpar relationship than no relationship. Men need it. Women dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 08:25 PM
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Correct. For most men, other goals come into play when they already have or are reasonably sure they are going to get a woman. In ancient Rome sexless men sold themselves into slavery rather than pay the Bachelor tax, that should tell you all about male motivation. Women are like batteries for men. As someone who was sexless and alone for most of his life, i had no motivation to do anything at a certain point. Not even go to the doctor when i was seriously ill. And literally all my problems vani…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 06:08 PM
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This but unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 05:55 PM
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Because they indoctrinate their children. Adult women who want to be submissive and trad are stupid, but its their choice. Teaching a child that their role is to be submissive to their eventual spouse and that the opinions of the opposite sex mean more by default is child abuse. Both Tradcons and Hyper-SJWs should be forcibly sterilized and have their children taken away. If Redpill Women didnt teach their daughters to be Redpill Women, much less people would have problems with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 07:52 PM
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Its not like that though. Fat women want nothing to do with fat men for the most part and ugly broke men are lucky to find ugly broke women willing to give them the time of day. I bet many sweaty, greasy, shut-in nerds would love to have an equally sweaty, greasy and nerdy girlfriend to be shut-ins together, but it rarely happens.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 06:11 AM
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Eh, id be okay with it if she likes the same boring stuff i like. Being lazy, boring, ugly, broke and unhealthy together is better than being all that and alone.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 06:08 AM
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Wasnt that study debunked? I remember reading that in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:25 PM
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Stats, not stories. Actual studies. I mistyped.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 10:10 AM
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Then why are arranged marriages equally or more happy than traditional couples according to sudies? These stats tell us that the concept of growing to love someone you are not attracted to is just as or more effective than getting together due to attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:39 AM
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Love my wife. Love my daughter. 99% of women are sociopathically evil and should probably have no rights at all. And i dont even like submissive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 01:31 AM
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No, they arent. My first argument in the last post was against the notion that bodily autonomy has merit. You havent engaged with that at all. Thats not how arguments work. I made an argument against eugenics, which you call evolution, when you first brought it up. You havent engaged with that either. Again, thats not how arguments work. And the law has literally no bearing on this. Im arguing for a new system, which would of course have new laws, so you bringing up current laws means nothing. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:49 AM
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"Yes. If something leads to more suffering than not, it is bad. People shouldnt be allowed to smoke, drink alcohol or shove greasy food down their faces. That would lead to a happier, more healthy and objectively better society." This is an argument. "My argument was that arranged pairings are provably equal or better in happiness than attraction based pairings. Thus, growing to love someone you are not attracted to is just as or more effective than getting together based on attraction. Thus, by…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:32 AM
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If you really think that then talking with you is pointless, because 99% of my replies to you are arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:25 AM
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I have made plenty and you havent engaged with them. Do that or stop replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:03 AM
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Yes. If something leads to more suffering than not, it is bad. People shouldnt be allowed to smoke, drink alcohol or shove greasy food down their faces. That would lead to a happier, more healthy and objectively better society. You cannot justify yourself. You wave around bodily autonomy like it means anything. That doesnt prove your point. Thats not how arguments work. And again, calling me sociopath has no sting from someone in favour of eugenics. Its like Stalin calling someone power-hungry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:19 PM
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My argument was that arranged pairings are provably equal or better in happiness than attraction based pairings. Thus, growing to love someone you are not attracted to is just as or more effective than getting together based on attraction. Thus, by making it so every pairing is arranged we will have lost no happiness and ended a lot of suffering. Your argument was laws, which mean nothing. Eugenics, which makes you look like a sociopath. And bodily autonomy, which also means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:16 PM
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Counter my arguments, or dont reply. If bodily autonomy leads to more suffering it is objectively bad. You repeating it like a gotcha means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:04 PM
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Laws are fallible. Almost every western justice system is a mess of unnecessary laws, corruption, loophole-abuse, etc. It was illegal to be gay 40 years ago. Dont mean it was right. And no, you need a coherent argument. Your behaviour just shows that "A woman is the oldest child in the house" is correct, because thats literally how 10 year olds argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:59 PM
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Right. Miss Eugenics "Let millions suffer" calls me a sociopath for wanting happiness for as much people as possible and cant muster any argument that doesnt make her seem worse. Like before, come with a coherent argument or not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:39 PM
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That is pure sociopathy. There is a reason people with that mindset are usually the villains in literally every piece of media, because we as a society decided that it is cruel and vile to let people with "bad genes" suffer. Literally Nazi eugenics mindset. And im the sociopath? Dont kid yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:30 PM
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I think everyones pairings should be arranged as early as possible. And you still havent justified how this provably equal or better system is inferior to letting millions of men suffer all their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:13 PM
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Come with a coherent argument or not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:57 PM
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Id say orientation should be respected. Lonely Gay men, sure. Incels and Femcels, lonely nerdy loser guys and lonely nerdy loser gals, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:56 PM
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Again you fail to provide any counterargument. Like i said, keep being delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:28 AM
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No, i feel justified in proposing that a system that provably leads to equal or better outcomes than what we already have is preferable to millions suffering because you think they arent hot enough. If unwilling action leads to more happiness for everyone involved it is justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:19 AM
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I already did, which you failed to counter in any coherent way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:12 AM
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Sure. In your whacky reality anything is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:06 AM
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You didnt pay attention at all. Arranged pairings for all is not rape, or sociopathy, and the stats agree with me. Keep being deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:02 AM
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Im not moving goalposts. My point has stayed the same throughout: My system leads to less suffering for EVERYONE, while yours leads to the mass suffering of men. If you are a human, you deserve both love and sex no matter how attractive you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:56 AM
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No. Arranged marriage stats prove you wrong here. My system would have objectively happier men AND women. But you think being with a nerd is icky so you refuse to actually process the facts and delude yourself into thinking that letting millions suffer because Nerds Are Icky is in any way morally justifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:49 AM
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Women dont know what they want, and arranged marriage stats prove it. Growing to love someone you arent attracted to is a real thing and it works as well or better than what we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:45 AM
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As if most losers are into chocking or rough sex. They are the ones with less testosterone for the most part. Most would be grateful to have sex at all. Good that i dont want that then. You are focusing on the sex. I want lonely people to be in relationships, not for the women to be sex slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:42 AM
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Right. Thats why the stats show either equal or more happiness in arrainged pairings. Continue living in your fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:30 AM
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Bad sex (Which isnt even a given. My wife isnt physically attracted to me at all and i make her cum every day.) is not comparable to the abject misery of prolonged loneliness. Cant you see the difference between these things? Being in a relationship with a loser isnt misery. I speak from experience, my wife is quite happy with me. Im not even a buxxer because she outearns me by a lot. And yet we are happy. Why? Could it be that losers have just as much potential to be good or great partners as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:27 AM
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No, they arent, or arranged marriages would be much unhappier. My own grandmother was in an arranged marriage with a man she despised and he became the love of her life, and she has stories like that for many of her friends. You are talking out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:17 AM
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Letting millions live in despair for no good reason is sociopathy. But PPD has taught me that women are solipsists so your inability to grasp the difference between women being in fine relationships with decent men being preferable to millions suffering doesnt surprise me. Vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:14 AM
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Yes. But being in a middling relationship isnt abject misery while prolonged loneliness is. So men have the greater need here. And seeing as arranged pairings are happier than attraction based pairings, learning to love over time is more effective than attraction based pairings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:02 AM
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First, you underestimate how widespread male loneliness is, and second, arranged pairings arent free use or rape. And once again, you being fine with people living in abject misery because they failed to reach an arbitrary standard is nothing but selfish sociopathy. Pure evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:59 AM
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No. I want as many people to live as happily as possible, unlike you. Im not even a guy who wants a submissive woman, in fact id hate that. Glad my wife isnt. But unlike you i believe if every single were to pair up tomorrow, even at random, wed have a much happier society. Because most non-radicalized incels as well as regular losers would make fine partners. Not amazing, but not terrible either. And since arranged marriages tend to be happier, the fact is that growing to love over time is more…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:50 AM
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Im not, but i was for a long time. Thats why im so passionate about this. I know the difference. And yes, knowing what it is like, it should be an obligation because id rather relive the time i was in constant agony from my mangled legs and had to learn how to walk again than relive being in abject misery due to loneliness. You are only so flippant about it because you have no concept of how awful it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:39 AM
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Like i said in another comment, i wasnt talking about seperating couples. Im talking exclusively about singles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:28 AM
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No, but if i was single i would to ugly straight women. I once fingered someone i wasnt attracted to at all and would have gone out with her if she asked. I wasnt getting anything out of it, but it made her happy for a while and she needed that desperately.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:27 AM
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What? Thats not what i meant at all. Im not saying couples should split up. Im saying singles should get together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:24 AM
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But he will if you dont. And having sex that isnt amazing and living with someone who isnt your ideal partner isnt abject misery, wheras prolonged loneliness is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:23 AM
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Sure. That would be ideal. But if that system leads to a huge number of people living in abject misery its not worth it. Your happiness is not more important than another persons suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:21 AM
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Letting countless men live in abject misery because they do not fit an arbritary standard of wit, wealth, looks or status is more horrific and evil by a wide margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:13 AM
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Like i said, pure selfish sociopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:06 AM
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Thats why i added the moss. Hell survive, just be in misery and pain the entire time. You guys are obsessed with death being the only consequence that matters. Living in Misery is just as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:57 AM
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And that is pure selfishness and sociopathy. I guess a starving person ist obligated to recieve food as long as he can eat the moss off the ground to survive. Evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:40 AM
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Thats not what i said and you know it. If loneliness wasnt as excruciating and detrimental to your health as it is id agree with you. But it is as bad as i described. You not taking a real issue seriously doesnt mean it isnt there. And i am specifically talking about sex and non-sexual intimacy. A relationship. Just sex is not what i meant at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:26 AM
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Im serious. You people do not realize how essential sex and romantic intimacy are. You think im making a mountain out of a molehill but its the other way around. People dont take the detrimental effects of loneliness seriously enough at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:23 AM
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Great argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:21 AM
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It does, even though few here will agree. Id say the same for lonely women. As someone who has starved, was almost frozen to death, had hundreds of tiny stones buried in his face that had to be plucket out slowly, and had his legs mangled so badly he had to learn to walk again, id say only starvation is worse than loneliness. If people like you knew how terrible true loneliness is, youd see my side. No one deserves that. Your sentence may as well be "Just because this immortal is on fire doesnt …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:06 AM
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I never said that. I said "decent" because most people are neither terrible nor amazing. And being an unnattractive Nerd does not mean someone deserves to suffer in agonizing loneliness forever, without love and intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:37 AM
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How about you marry poindexter and dont divorce or deadbedroom him? Doesnt seem that hard. Have him do his fair share of chores so you arent mommying after him and wow: You got a fine relationship with a decent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 12:54 AM
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If women are allowed and trusted to be lawyers, something far more mentally challenging than just having a basic grasp on how politics affect things, which even most voting men don't have cause they are super tribal or think politics are boring, why shouldnt women be trusted and allowed to vote? If they are mentally competent enough to be lawyers, surely they are mentally competent enough to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:57 PM
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You are a lawyer against womens rights? Seems hypocritical to me. Unless you specifically just dont want women to vote, which would be very arbitrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:49 PM
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When i am lonely too, yeah. Even if i wasnt lonely, just not in a relationship, id do it. I also wouldnt fuck fat chicks who have options but just dont like them, like many Incels. Just truly lonely fat women with no options, because that state is so miserable to be in that i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:49 PM
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Idk, id imagine people who were into that would just get a slave and treat he well, like a beloved pet or something, so she develops some kind of fucked up affection for him for treating her much better than he could if he wanted and much better than her kidnappers treated her. Dont think wanting to be liked by your woman would stop guys like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:21 AM
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If any approached me while i am single, yeah. I have been miserably lonely and can empathize enough to understand that having mediocre/bad sex is nothing compared to the torture and agony of loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:55 AM
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What if they had a much higher sex drive? Lets say it increased to be proportionally comparable to the difference between men and women now, with women having the higher drive instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:38 AM
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So if you had the choice between the uber-manly Chad of Chads who only cares about his own pleasure, an average dude who will try to make you cum at least or a fat/ugly un-masculine shy dude who is amazing in bed and makes sure his partners orgasm hard every time, whod you choose? Id still say if this choice was offered to a million women Chad'd get the most, Average guy much much less and ugly sex god only a handful by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 10:35 AM
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Not necessarily, but most likely. You could fix things somewhat by being creative. Just not in the sexual department. If you make adult single women pay double the taxes while keeping all other rights you can balance it out a bit. Making it illegal to be single for more than a year past the age of 18 would ensure everyone has a partner. If you outlaw cheating and polyamory too and stipulate that everyone in a relationship has the right to sex with his/her partner twice a week at least, which can…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 04:21 PM
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Nah, my wife is way hotter than me. She just came from a string of bad relationships and wanted to try building a relationship based on something that isnt going to give you rose-colored glasses like sparks or sexual attraction. Despite that she has sex with me every day despite me having a low libido (Once a week would be more than fine by me) because she knows she cums everytime with me. She makes quadruple of what i make and still wants to spend most of her time with me because she grew to lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:58 AM
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I disagree. I am like that and i have been in a very equal happy relationship for a while. All because a woman gave a fat, nerdy, broke, awkward guy a chance. Id argue most women would be happy with pre-radicalized incels or other relationship losers if they engaged with them. She had 3 prerequisites. I do most of the housework. I actually put effort into pleasing her during sex. I lose my weight during the relationship. In return she actually tried out videogames instead of shunning them and it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:46 AM
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Youre right, but it should be. If society outlawed being single for more than a year past age 20 then the world would be a much happier place despite the loss of meaningless freedoms. Sure, but loser women dont even want loser men. I care about people with no options. If a guy has options, but they are too unattractive for him, then thats his problem. He has an easy solution that he wont go for. People with no options though live some of the most miserable lives in existence. Losers dating loser…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:34 AM
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Because loneliness is so crippling that no one deserves it. No matter if they are desirable. Ugly and autistic people have the same needs as the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:20 AM
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Its more about them not deserving crippling loneliness and the lack of companionship. But most people on here are sociopaths, both sexes, so they dont care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 07:10 AM
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Submissive women are a massive turnoff for me, and i hate to be considered masculine. Not everyone thinks like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:43 AM
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Wasnt that study debunked?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:17 PM
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It is. But most women deliberately avoid the kind of men who actually want to get them off. If you actively want to please a woman you probably do not have the attractive "Alpha" characteristics they find attractive. I was a 300 pound, passive, self-loathing lard silo without a job when my wife gave me a chance. Now im skinny, self-assured and together with a person i truly love who loves me in return. If a woman had given me a chance earlier i probably would have never sunken that far. Love is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:12 PM
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I would've literally killed someone for a shot with any woman for years, i was that lonely and miserable. And while i eventually got a spouse in my mid-twenties, my one and only, literally all but 1 of my former loser friends ended up miserably alone, and they were much more socially adept than i am. Not saying youre lying, different environments and all. Just saying that "People usually end up with a compatible SO of their level if they aim for their level" sounds pretty Utopic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:24 PM
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But as a former overweight non-masculine introvert gamer who wouldve been perfectly okay with an overweight non-feminine introverted weirdo woman i can tell you that even that is near impossible. Id say a lot of loser men would be perfectly fine with loser women, but even loser women want nothing to do with loser men. If women were willing to date their equal then TRP and MGTOW probably wouldnt exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:55 PM
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But that is the point. Its not about being dumb. Its about rejecting what makes human wortwhile. Their sapience. Not making decisions because you dont give a shit is like a whale drliberately beaching itself because swimming is lame. Two naturally submissive people who are in an equal relationship despite their inclinations is fine. Its great, actually. There are many smart women who whalebeach themselves. It has literally nothing to do with intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:50 PM
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I made a more detailed reply to another guy who commented on my post. That one explains my reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:39 PM
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Im no leader and neither is my wife. We are both still not submissive. We decide everything together because our important decisions impact both of our lives. That is how it should be. Im shy as hell. I still have enough self-respect to want to take an active part in making life decisions. In general, when i say submissives, i mean people who deferr to their spouse in most or all things. Or people who utilize shit like the STFU method that is so popular on RedPillWomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:24 PM
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No, its disgusting in any relationship. Read my reply to the other guy who commented on my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:03 PM
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Deferring to your spouse in most / all matters. Or doing literally any of the things RedPillWomen recommends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:59 PM
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Yes. For me, the good and valuable thing about humanity is sapience. Being aware enough to rationalize and make your own decisions. If you are submissive, you are actively repressing the thing that makes you worthwhile as a person. If you just vote for whoever your partner tells you to vote you should have no voting rights. If you do not go anywhere without permission from your husband you should not have the right of free movement. If your spouse makes all decisions for you then he is your owne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:51 PM
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I definitely agree there. I do more than my share of chores and despite being her objectively least attractive partner we have more sex than she had with her much more Chad-like boyfriends because i make triple sure she cums every time. Men sure could pick up slack in that department. But i think plenty invisible guys would happily do that in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:22 PM
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Id qualify and i dont even want such a woman. Submissiveness is deeply disgusting to me. I need to respect a partner as a person and submissive people are lower than animals in my view. Submissives do not deserve human rights. Not talking about in bed, idgaf about sexual preferences. I mean in regular life. The fact that so many women are submissive and "femininity" often includes submissiveness when described, even by women, is a great factor in my turn from radical egalitarian to more of a mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:14 PM
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Yeah. But thats the reality for an increasing number of guys, and not just losers. And as someone who was on both sides of the Devastating Loneliness / Having a Loving Partner - Coin i can say that relationships ARE a need for many men. Id rather die than be that lonely again. It also makes it very easy to resent women. Literally all my problems vanished after i finally got into a relationship. Every single one. I lost all my excess weight over time, i became confident, i actually enjoyed living…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:39 PM
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Not where i live. The only one of my former loser friends who didnt end up miserably lonely was the one who turned into a skater-bro midway through 5th grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:20 PM
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Idk. I was an overweight, unambitious, feminine loser and my standards were non-existent. Just wanted a companion for life. Ill take an overweight, masculine, unambitious female loser, i dont care. Dont even have a high libido. Just wanted love. Certainly not a submissive feminine darling or a supermodel. But even female losers want nothing to do with male losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:44 PM
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Isnt mimoxs a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:07 AM
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What if you are viscerally disgusted by the concept of submissive women and can only accept an equal partner? What if you hate being dominant? This shouldnt doom men to a love and sexless existence but it does for many. Its sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 11:08 PM
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Same, though i think im further along than you. I was fiercely egalitarian for most of my life but this sub has slowly turned me into a deep misogynist. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:59 PM
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I disagree. Fat socially inept depressed poor non-masculine shy 30 year old virgins with no job wont get any woman, no matter how " Low Value" she is. "There is someone for everyone" would include these people too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:45 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:22 AM
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Basically arranged pairings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:07 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:50 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:35 AM
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No, the social unrest will happen before that. You can deny it all you want, doesnt make it less true. Im married. I wont be part of that unrest. But you underestimate how much men need women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:21 AM
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Thats how it works though. Sadly, most men need women to be happy. Most women do not need men. If the needs of a large percentage of the population arent met, there is social unrest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:25 AM
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No. That came after a literal decade of rejection. A slow increase in getting fatter, more lonely, dirtier, etc, every year. If she broke up and i spent another 10 years alone, maybe. Point is, most men NEED women to stay mentally healthy and the mere presence of a partner is enough to solve most of their mental problems. Even the most put together masculine attractive man has a good chance to become a suffering, dirty, fat slob if they are sufficiently lonely. Men NEED women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:18 AM
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Yes, a partner can give you self-esteem and make you like yourself if you didnt already. It happened with me. If you are depressed because you are lonely and have no self-esteem because of years of rejection, a partner can fix that by simply being your partner. It also helps with every other problem. I was 300 pounds when we met, have an actual medical problem that makes it easier for me to gain weight and harder to lose it, and after getting a partner i could finally do the hard work of losing …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:56 AM
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Im the opposite. If you dont like someone's natural look then you don't like them at all. (Appearance wise.) I asked my wife to stop wearing makeup shortly after we started dating and she complied. Makeup is unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:43 AM
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Many below average men just arent that masculine, or masculine at all. That women need that is part of the problem. Especially since those guys really dont care if a gir is feminine or not. Obesity is a hard habit to kick when you eat out of depressive loneliness. I was fat af when i got together with my wife and had little problem sticking to a diet with actual companionship to motivate me. Now im skinny. Id argue a large number of these guys are fat because they have no chance with women, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:36 PM
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You people are sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:40 AM
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Natural selection does not work that way. It doesnt select for the best option. Plenty of widespread mutations caused by natural selection over the millenia have turned out neutral or negative. If natural selection was a force that always selected for the best outcome then women in modern societies wouldn't be attracted to bad boys, dominance and masculinity, but rather intelligence, compassion and be turned off by the other stuff. Natural selection cannot keep up. An egalitarian society would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:17 AM
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I know, but its very disheartening. I am a feminine, unambitious, poor, unattractive, incredibly un-masculine guy. Literally all my (meager) strengths come from my personality. I am incredibly lucky i found my wife, but according to most women and many men here i would totally deserve to be single and unloved forever if i wasn't taken. And i was lonely for a large portion of my life. That was the most miserable experience i ever had. I would honestly prefer death to being that lonely again. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:21 AM
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If humans cant live happily without gender roles then our entire species deserves to go extinct. No one should have to work hard to get a basic need such as intimacy and companionship met. How would dating look in a future fully automated society where 99% of people dont work? If all women value men for is their cash or masculinity then they are subhuman garbage. I thank the stars my wife isnt like that at all. This sub may actually turn me into a misogynist, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:51 AM
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2, 1. Anything is better than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:25 AM
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I def would. Companionship trumps all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:57 PM
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I had a whole thing typed and accidentally deleted it. Then i typed a shorter thing snd accidentally deleted it too. Lets speedrun this. I was 300 pounds, depressed and majorly awkward when we met. She was willing to invest in a lardass loser with personality traits that MAY resonate with hers if he gets a bit of confidence. And it worked. I ate due to depression, which was due to loneliness and had no confidence because i was a mid twenties kissless virgin. It turned out we are very compatible …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:46 PM
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Because for a LTR you shouldnt think with your pussy or dick. Thats what casual sex is for. Her priority was finding someone who was compatible with her in a way that she loved spending time with and would not want to lose. A deep emotional connection. The sexual requirements were lowered to "Can he satisfy me when we have sex?", and i can. As a result i am the best relationship she ever had. I even talked with one of her exes once who is way more sexually attractive in both looks and personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:29 PM
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Isnt it because they target men who are non-commital, because those have personality traits and looks that are exciting? There is an ocean of men out there who would be as faithful ascan be, but they arent attractive to women. I earn less than my wife, am uglier, in no way masculine, very emotional and have never been at the top of any social ladder. I wouldnt cheat even if i had the opportunity. My wife loves me because we share important values and niche interests, we can have exciting in-dept…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:00 AM
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I think that is irrelevant for truly lonely people though. Before i met my wife i was at a point where (as someone who is very much a coward and gets anxiety about even being slightly rude to complete strangers) if a female serial killer came to me and said "I will pretend to like you and once a week even sleep with you if you help me hide the bodies", i probably wouldve taken that deal. I once fell off a bike while riding down a mountain and slid a few metwers with my face at high speed. I had …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 11:29 AM
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No. Just correcting the nonsense you spout.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:06 AM
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I can tell you from experience that that isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:06 PM
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I was a lone'y virgin until my mid-twenties and the mental anguish from the loneliness was worse than any other time in my life. I would prefer the 5 months i spent in the hospital having tiny stones plucked out of my face and learning how to walk again to my time being a lonely virgin. You are massively downplaying the suffering it causes. Intimacy is a need. You wanting others to spend their lives like this is more psychopathic than anything i said. My wife agrees with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:40 PM
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Its prefferable to letting people live a life of suffering. That is crueller by a significant margin. The sex wouldnt be violent either. I was awkward af as a mid-twenties virgin when i had sex with my wife for the first time. Cant imagine other lonely people will be different. People are not entitled to anything they dont need to not be miserable. Standard un-kinky vanilla sex is all that these people need. Everything else would be handled via usual consent. No means no, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 06:55 PM
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Sure. But some never manage. If you are naturally unmasculine and are unlucky with jobs it doesnt matter how much you try to improve. There are many people who try their best to improve and never manage. I grew up poor and never had the means to improve. Hell, i didnt have internet until my late teens and had a big nokia brickphone for most of my life when others had smartphones. I went to group meet-ups, cons, was sent to winter and summercamps and never managed making any connections because i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:34 PM
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A slave is someone who is under complete control of another person. Im not saying they should have Islam level restriction and be under complete authority. If you still have the freedom to do anything you want, even have affairs, then you are not likely to be miserable. Not happy necessarily, but i dont care about happiness. I care about not being miserable. The prevention of misery is more important happiness. No, it doesnt. Look at it this way. Lets say half the population, regardless of gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:47 PM
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I did? We have a solid social safety net, ergo it would still be as easy as we have it now. Even if we were both unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:17 PM
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We live in Germany where we have a solid social safety net. I was unemployed when we met with little chance for another job anytime soon if ever (Luckily it worked out) and we still got together despite us both being very clear we wanted at least one kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 04:38 PM
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I make barely above minimum wafe and my wife makes twice the amount i make. (Still not much.) We are still raising a daughter with little problems. We eat less, buy only new clothes when old ones are broken, ect. Its still fine because we love each other. That kind of bond should be the minimum in any relationship. Finances shouldnt matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 04:27 PM
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I wont changd your mind, but you can check my post history. I was a major irl activist for womens rights for years, even after i was well aware that it doesnt get female romantic attention. Its a subject i care deeply for, especially since my daughter was born. But due to my past as a lonely loser i know personally how horrible it is. No one deserves that. Socially retarded people dont, boring people dont, losers dont. The fact that you argue these people should spend their life miserable makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 08:25 AM
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Yes they are. Everyone is entitled to sex AND intimacy. People who argue otherwise are sociopathic monsters. Edit: To elaborate: Arguing people deserve mental anguish, loneliness and misery because they are naturally unmasculine, are not skilled enough for a good job, or unattractive is sick. Most humans, or maybe just men according to some here, need sex and intimacy to not feel miserable. Need. All basic needs should be met for every person, both physical and mental.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:51 AM
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No. Arranged marriages happened all throughout history. Most losers lack masculinity so they wouldnt abuse women. They may not be happy with these men, but they wouldnt be miserable. Im not saying the lonely person should get a slave. Just someone who pretends to care about them for a couple of hours a day and have sex with them. Same with lonely women. In fact, the best case scenario would be to pair the lonely of both genders up. As long as we dont live 3000 years and there isnt proof of an af…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 11:44 PM
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Yes they are. Everyone is entitled to not be miserable. Not happy, not even neutral, just not miserable. If people with chronic pain are miserable, they are entitled to painkillers. If someone is miserable in their dead end job they are entitled to be able to quit. If you do not have a home you are entitled to a roof over your head and enough food and water to survive. (America's homelessness problem is embarrassing for a developed nation.) If losers and unlucky people of both genders are misera…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 10:52 PM
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Gender roles suck and should be abolished.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 05:50 AM
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Men who cannot gain employment even though they actively try, or men who are forced into early retirenment through no fault of their own should not be destined to be alone forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 05:46 AM
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You are free to not believe me if it makes you feel better about yourself, friend. To be fair though, she is the only partner i've ever had, and i was a pretty pathetic mid-twenties heavily depressed virgin when i met her. Unlike other blue-leaning people here i fully agree with the "Intimacy is a need, and most eternally single people can't just 'get over it' and 'learn to be happy alone' " thing i often see redpillers say, due to how much my life was impacted for the better after we got togeth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 07:33 AM
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I am shorter than my wife, uglier, not masculine at all, very emotional, make barely above minimum wage and i was fat af when i met her (Not anymore though.) Nevertheless we are now happy, raising a daughter and i am pretty sure she doesnt cheat on me as we have sex 3-5 times a day (On average. Though i never initiate.) I always knew i was lucky but people here make me feel like i am living a life so improbably rare that i may as well have won the lottery 10 times in a row. Its really weird to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 03:03 AM
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Strangers, at least here in Germany, who are very awkward rarely talk to other strangers of the opposite sex at cons. Most awkward people would only be comfortable to talk to opposite sex strangers in quiet, private settings with a handful of people at most. If you can find a Pen & Paper group with an awkward single girl (Very rare), you have some chances. On cons, only if you are a cosplayer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:58 PM
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The problem is getting awkward people to meet each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:41 PM
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I personally am an exception to this, but i can say that in my pretty vast sea of aquaintances no awkward, non-masculine, or excessively nerdy man who is broke or a low earner has ever had a girlfriend. As someone who knows from experience how miserable loneliness is, this really sucks. Most of them are good people who dont deserve to be alone forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:29 PM
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Wont bring them much if they want physical intimacy, like most humans. Someone to be lazy together with in person. If there was a reliable way to get awkward weirdos in contact with other awkward weirdos of the opposite sex a lot of incels would not be incels anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:38 AM
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Depends on the person. I prefer natural looks for the most part, though i agree that that is a minority opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:55 AM
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It depends what the social-pressure situation would be like in such a society. Id also imagine a government that involved would let you change your registered sexuality, so women who say they are lesbians just to avoid the possibility of being paired up with an undesirable man would be stuck with other women forever without the chance of any sort of straight relationship. Then there is the propaganda factor. While plenty of bad match-ups are sure to happen in that scenario, really great partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:23 PM
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Im not advocating for that, im just having fun writing hypotheticals. Sexual redistribution would only be possible in a full on dictatorship, so im trying to see it from the lens of the people in charge, presupposing they are genuinely trying to "help" and not just power hungry. Id guess aromantic people would just be locked out of relationships for good. Just like all couples have to register, aromantic people have to as well. They are exempt from any of the mandatory dating stuff but in turn f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:08 PM
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Almost no one who says they are X read X literature. Communists, fascists, feminists, red pillers, MGTOWS, Tankies, Monarchists, Traditionalists, Nihilists, ect, ect. Its always just a small subsection that does, and most of the ones that do go all in and devour every scrap of literature possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:56 PM
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Lol, i like creative writing, let me try. Lets assume we live in a world where the government has total control over everything and there are no rebels or whatever. Stable dictatorship, but one that aims to "help" its citizens as best it can. No booze, no drugs, no fatty foods, ect. A society like this could mandate that no one above the age of....Idk, 16, is allowed to be single for more than a year. Furthermore, no relationship is allowed to be shorter than one year. All couples have to regist…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:29 PM
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I think for people who are truly miserable alone unenthusiastic intimacy is prefferable to no intimacy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 08:17 PM
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So naturally non-dominant men are destined to be forever alone if they are of average height and looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:58 PM
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Human nature is our greatest enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 03:55 PM
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It doesnt have to be this way in the future. Gene editing can be the great equalizer and get rid of most of the dimorphism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 10:23 PM
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No, not not fucking him. But acting like that kind of loneliness is "being dramatic" or no big deal is. And in the end, these disaffected males are going to vote in more and more far right politicians and all the progress that has been achieved in gender equality will be for naught, which is greatly troubling to me as someone with a baby daughter. Making light of these men is not only pretty horrible, but will also have wide reaching consequences. I may just be paranoid about this, but i cant he…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 03:15 PM
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I am probably as blue pilled as they get and was a virgin till my mid twenties (When i met my wife.) , and i have a lot of sympathy for (some) incels. I was so miserable that i was weeks away from suicide and every day was a struggle just to do anything. I probably would be coping much better if i was alone now, but being convinced you'll never get to kiss, hug, cuddle with, have sex with anyone and die without ever having had a partner isn't something i wouldnt wish on my worst enemy. I lucked …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:56 AM
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Idk, what about broke, jobless, autistic, average-to-ugly, socially awkward, non-masculine 28 year old virgins? I know a guy like that and i doubt he'll ever get a girl. Makes him absolutely miserable too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 08:32 AM
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In this case gender relations, as that is this sub's thing. I heard that Gen Z is very politically divided to the extremes of both sides, and that doesn't bode well for healthy gender relations. Then you have the rising misogynist sentiments among young men and the fact that traditionalists like the Quivers breed rapidly while sane people barely have children, and i have a very bleak outlook on the future, especially for women. My wife says i'm too paranoid about this but i worry about raising m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:44 PM
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As someone very removed from Gen Z but with a baby daughter, can you (and anyone else who wants) give me your take on Gen Z?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:29 PM
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I dont think you understand. I meant that using genetic engineering to make both sexes equally physically strong would change the dynamics a lot. I am not talking about looks at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:12 AM
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Oh, i meant muscle-growth wise. So that both genders have equal strength potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:01 AM
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Making it so women are on par with men on a physical level alone would really shake up dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:54 AM
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Why wouldnt it be for casual sex? If you just want to fuck and not actually get to know the person then choosing the most hot available option is a no-brainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:32 PM
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He does not lift. He uses these Elastic Resistance Bands things. Well, he has no driver's license and has no experience with computers at all. He probably didnt try the right way. He is incredibly awkward with strangers. Its a sight to behold. Probably not something that leaves a good first impression with potential employers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:39 AM
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I do not know if such courses exist in Germany but i'll look into it. His sister'll gladly splurge for him and he is usually very cooperative with suggestions. He is deathly afraid of most animals. Ironically, he likes snakes a lot but always says they are too expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:31 AM
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That makes sense. Lol, he doesnt get early retirenment because he has autism. ^ ^ He is in early retirenment because the government couldn't even get him a job as a dishwasher for his entire adult life. (He went to countless job interviews and just never got hired. Its better than the lazy types who dont even bother to try to get a job, but i'd imagine also much worse for your self esteem.) There is very little right now. We are in a very liberal part of Germany and here Covid is taken very seri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:02 AM
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It is what it is. We have to look at the world how it actually works, not how we'd like it to work. We are seeing the rise of far right parties and the spread of deep misogyny worldwide. This will not stop until these people succesfully vote in their hateful, backwards governments, or until their grievances are otherwise met. Many blues and feminists, and even FDS types, have their heads in the sand right now and refuse to aknowledge the trajectory we are on. It will cost all of us dearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:17 PM
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Isnt that the whole crux of the Pill stuff? Sex and/or relationships? The gist is that both sex and emotional intimacy are something that most humans need to not be miserable, and men are getting left out of that to a larger and larger degree. In this sub it is best to always mentally add "in the context of sex and/or relationships, or the need thereof." to any non-specific statement. I also dont think its about feeling sorry, but rather being willing to accept low status men the way men accept …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 01:10 AM
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Having read a lot of this forum in the last couple days, i think he means recognizing that relationship and sex-less young men are legitimately suffering, and/or lower their standards to that of men? Those seem to be the common complaints. The first is self-explanatory. With the second, people here always point to women caring much more about looks and status and money, as than men, and also are not attracted to non-masculine men. A broke, 3/10, un-feminine woman could get an SO easy, while a br…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 10:46 PM
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First time on this sub (prob last time too), but i agree with this completely. The problem i find is that many people who recognize this also seem to have a problem with women in general. Its like if you are someone who agrees that anti maleness and anti whiteness is rising and a problem, but youd like to keep womens voting rights, women in education and women's issues being just as important as men's issues, then you have no team to turn to.
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