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When you’re young, it’s mostly just infatuation. Isn't it the same as when you're in your 50's as well? The infatuation I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:13 AM
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My husband and I still have romance and a great sex life and we’re in our 40s and have been together nearly two decades. And this is the most passionate relationship I’ve had, the ones I had before him weren’t better, they were worse. But that's because it all depends on luck, or the choice of your partner, no? I bet if your husband is abusive and/or gaslighting you, you would surely agree to this submitted post. Sometimes you have to take into account of potentially negative things, not just ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:01 AM
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I am a woman with lots of money and my bf stays at home and has strong depressions, social anxiety… Just curious, why won't you find another new partner who's more in-line with your financial standings? You could easily get by and live comfortably if you're with someone who's richer than your current partner, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:30 PM
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Not really, no. I have just not made that kind of connection I have with him with anyone else before or since. I’m just not convinced it’s so easy to come by. Perhaps because I’m just in love with him and it clouds me to my options or something, but either way to me I’ve just always felt so lucky to have found what I do. Interesting... You're 1 of the very rare women who would rather stay in a long term relationship based on stability, rather than jumping on the next best thing to improve your l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:26 AM
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I’m pretty pragmatic, I’d rather commit to a known compatible relationship than risk it for something unknown due to potentially being better in some small area. Okay but, for discussion's sake, let's remove any gender stereotypes. Question is, don't you feel that you will miss out on lots of fancy vacations, luxurious gifts, able to stay in a high-rise condominium/house if you're with a richer/more established guy? Note that I bolded the word miss out. Because I believe that at this day & age o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:55 AM
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Women who're with you just for the money will obviously leave you the moment they find somebody better off financially. So if you use finances to attract women, don't be surprised if you attract the type who'll jump ship quickly for a better opportunity. Okay but, for discussion's sake, let's remove any gender stereotypes. Question is, don't you feel that you will miss out on lots of fancy vacations, luxurious gifts, able to stay in a high-rise condominium/house if you're with a richer/more esta…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 01:55 AM
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Even when you were still dating your husband, you didn't have this "what-ifs" thought at the back of your head? Like what if you can score a more handsome/richer guy if said guy is as kind, smart, funny as your current partner? No? Find it hard to believe since women could just flock to the next best thing either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:01 PM
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But would you also agree to say that women in general have the chance to "jump to a better ship", so to speak? Because if we remove kindness, personality, emotional compatibility, ambition and goals (shared between you and your partner), you could very well just dump your current partner and go for the next best guy in terms of looks and finance, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:41 PM
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Thanks for the in-depth comment, appreciate it! But won't you have a what-ifs? What if you could settle down with a better partner? What if you'll miss out on a more compatible partner in terms of looks and financial status?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:44 PM
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Okay, what you elaborated and explained with the pizza analogy makes perfect sense. I can agree on that. In fact, I had a MUCH wealthier and arguably better looking guy after me at the same time I met my current boyfriend. Why didn’t I choose him? He was narcissistic and annoying to be around. But when it comes to what you wrote above, could you guarantee that you'll still be choosing your partner everyday for the next few days/weeks/months/years though? Because if I'm your partner, I'd immediat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:49 PM
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I do love my boyfriend and he brings everything I want to the table so why would I leave him? Because you would miss out on a more grand experience, you would miss out on other guys who would be better, capable of giving what your current partner is currently doing/giving, and then more. The analogy that I give is akin to working, you keep climbing up the corporate ladder and get promotions after promotions, increments after increments. It's the same in the relationship landscape, you strive to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:57 PM
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I mean have you ever heard of emotional bonding? Feelings? Love? Yeah, but not many people practice that, because these are only nice on papers. Do you truly love your partner though? Like genuinely why do you think people stay together? Not everyone thinks of relationships as business transactions The main reason people stay in a relationship is because they are exactly a transaction, you provide something on the table and expect something good in return, out of the relationship. You won't trul…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:36 PM
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So he IS the most attractive TO ME As of right now. There's no telling if your taste will change in the next 5, or 10 years no? I do hope that you will take your time to ponder about what your options are and how much time you have left, though. I mean you know you worth a lot, so you should just sell yourself to the highest bidder, so to speak. But I wanted him so I'm really just exercising my right to choose Again though, why you wanna go for a 5 or 6 when you can go for a 9 or 10 in the scale…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:08 PM
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That's the thing he IS up to my standards, I wouldn't be with him otherwise. How in the world can you make sense by stating the above sentence, then proceeded to go ahead and write the statement below in the same paragraph: Lookswise he isn't the most conventionally attractive guy You're contradicting yourself with the above 2 highlighted sentences, don't ya think? And if your partner knows about this at the back of your head and figures out that lookwise, he isn't the most conventionally attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:33 PM
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I see great looking guys all the time at university but it does nothing for me so I don't even think about it Deadass, you never thought of hooking up with good looking guys?? You're peculiar and odd one out. Because from what observation and experience tells me, women would surely flock to hotter/richer guys, that's just women's nature and there's nothing wrong with that. Survival of the fittest, if I'd say so. Going back to our debate/discussion, I think it would be neat if your partner realiz…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:59 PM
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History and the connection built together over time have value, too. Otherwise what’s the point of commitment? What's the point of commitment when you can enjoy better stuffs then? Don't you have a "what-if" at the back of your head when you take a glance at someone hotter/richer? What if you could travel and have a luxurious vacation? What if your new partner showers you with lots of luxurious gifts? No?? I find it hard to believe. It's only natural that women date up/level up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:25 PM
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You're saying I'm just holding out till I meet a better guy but I wouldn't even want to get to know another guy enough to determine if he would be better But what if you've get to know a richer/hotter looking guy after some time then? You surely would have some kind of what-ifs at the back of your head, no? What if you're with this new guy and you could go on a luxurious vacation? What if he could get you a new car, living in a better house? These things didn't cross at the back of your mind? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:04 PM
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And no, if a guy isn’t at least somewhat physically attractive to me, I’m not going to be interested. First you wrote the above statement, which I completely agreed. Then you wrote the statement below: looks and money are far from the only things to value in a partner, and the other things increase in importance and value as time goes on. If you base their value on looks alone, how can you expect to grow old together? What are you on about? I don't get it, it's like you're conflicting 2 differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 12:59 PM
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Also an obvious answer would be loyalty, I spent all this time building a bond and emotional closeness with one person so why would I throw that away for another supposedly great guy who's basically a stranger to me at that point? That's weird, is loyalty that important to women in this day and age? Let me give you an analogy, you would've stopped working in your current company if another company provides you lots of opportunity for climbing up the ladder, expanding your skillsets, on top of gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:26 AM
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Despite what you read here, 99.9% of women don’t need the richest or absolute hottest dude, I smell a bullshit take here. Riddle me this:- Suppose you've found a guy who's has these good traits: (kindness, personality, humorous, sharing similar outlooks in lives with you). What happens if there's a guy who shares the exact copy of attributes and traits as your aforementioned partner above, on top of having greater looks or richer? Why would you still stick with your partner then? You would surel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:19 AM
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You know you can also value people for who they are, right? You are trying to oversimplifying things in the above statement. First impression matters. Good looks and financial status puts a guy's foot in the door, not saying he will be successful in a relationship or get valued, but at the very least he has a chance. You would be lying to yourself if you say inherent values (kindness, personality, humorous, sharing similar outlooks in lives) are the only thing that matters. These matters yes, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 09:13 AM
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Wow is it really that hard to believe women can love their partner for the person they are? I think you misunderstand me. Women should love someone if that someone has attractive qualities (i.e: shares similar outlook/mindset, funny, kind) on top of being rich and/or good looking. Because it only makes sense as a woman that you choose guys with following criteria for following reasons: Good looking - So that you can have access to better gene pools to propagate for your kids. Richer - So that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:56 AM
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I wouldn’t be with my boyfriend if I didn’t value him. But you value him only because he's good looking and financially stable, yes? I bet you wouldn't even bat an eye on him if he wasn't attractive and rich enough for you yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:20 AM
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but that's how women think. They wanna date up because it's just a practically logical thing to do, dating better looking guy so that she can have better genes to propagate the good looks to their kids, and of course stronger financial status makes it more secure to put food on the table and roof over their head. These above are the main reasons/criteria when it comes to women filtering out guys. Of course its better to have guys who are kind, humorous and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:14 AM
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How could I not love and value him? The only reason you love him is because of all those chivalric/kind things he does, on top of having good looks and/or money.. I can bet my monthly paycheck you're gonna dump your partner if there's a next best thing/better guy with better looks and/or stronger financial status comes into your life. There's nothing wrong with admitting to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:07 AM
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why would she marry him if he didn’t make enough money fir her in the place. You must be new to Earth, that's just how women think. If a guy doesn't have looks and/or money, why would she bother interacts with said guy? Women only dates up in terms of looks and money, there's nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:05 AM
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I started hanging out on a female only sub for tips on looks and it's refreshing to hear other girls talk about appearance with less of a filter Yes, so from that sentence alone, women too emphasize the importance of appearances, yes? I don't know what's so wrong about it though. That's like saying you are in the wrong for not falling in love with a guy who you're not physically attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:11 AM
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Just embrace it, no biggie. There's nothing wrong with wanting an attractive and rich partner. You'll only be lying to that poor guy if he's not attractive from your POV. Just be transparent - lack of it for the sake of being "shamed" is just ridiculous. Everyone of us have different taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:15 AM
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Looks matter in a relationship, that's the 1st baseline when it comes to accepting/rejecting a partner from women's POV. Even if the guy is kind, funny and is capable of holding tonnes of intellectual conversations, all of that mean jack shit if a woman isn't physically attracted to him. I hope both men/women can be honest with each other in that matter, the dating landscape would be a way straightforward sphere. Then after looks, comes money. Money matters too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:41 AM
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Interesting, that was her mom's mindset, what about her's?? Was she a mommy's girl too and deviated towards her mom's mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:32 AM
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Why is that a shallow mindset? I mean its only natural that women only wants to be in a relationship with a more attractive and richer guys, no? We live in a society that constantly compares one to another, and your parents just wanna ensure that you have the partner with best financial standings to safely put food on your table and roof over your head. Plus they might hope for having cute grandkids (just my assumption)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:28 AM
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Isn't that was because those women learned that you're richer later on?? There's always a motive behind their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:24 AM
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You're truly loyal to your relationship, that's a fresh perspective, thanks for sharing and your partner is lucky to have you. I just wish the entire world would have this perspective like yours, but unfortunately its more jaded than that. Relationships are getting more and more materialistic, and money/wealth is needed to put food on the table and roof over our heads, so I can't refute that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:44 AM
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Why don’t you believe us? Ok, yes, I'm starting to believe you guys because this is what you've personally written. So yeah, NOT EVERY woman is gonna leave their current partner for the next best thing. It's misogynistic. But may I know WHY? I mean if you're having a good time with your current partner, why would you not dump him for someone hotter and richer? The richer/more accomplished guy could very well exhibit all those positive intangible traits (kindness, caring, humorous, provide intell…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:33 AM
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Did you actually tell her you had feelings for her? I didn't explicitly tell her. But she had an inkling and she even wanted to ask me out multiple times for a 1-on-1 dinner, but I avoided that by coming up with some excuses. When I deliberately switched my schedule and chose different classes to avoid her, I remembered she outright asked on what's happening (to us at that time)? I just brushed it off with stress due to hectic lifestyle from academic workload. She offered to wanna have more stud…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:05 AM
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Especially if the economy is so bad it drives people into relationships and parenthood because two incomes are better at staying afloat.. Interesting you brought that up, because based on my social circles and the rise of r/antiwork with r/collapse, the number of people having pessimistic views on the economy and environment for the long run also increases. These are the folks who wanna avoid getting married and/or avoid having kids due to how expensive it is to maintain a nuclear family. Rent a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:17 AM
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Alright, I admit, my apologies on previous comment for being too brash. My bad. But my reasoning came from a perspective where this sorta thing happened before. It's not my imagination, but it was my experience. I formed a deep connection with my university coursemate since sophomore. She was kind, good, exceptional and had lots to offer to the world. I learned a lot from her, we chatted/spend time chilling in our homes, picnic, the whole deal. I initially never thought of her as much because I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:34 AM
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We as a society have to see this as it is and realized that traditional monogamy/family doesn't cut out anymore. This ain't the 50's where the man brings home the chunk of the money, and the wife is a housewife/mom. This is a new era where women have the choice to be a breadwinner WITHOUT having to deal with these kinds of issue. I have no idea why, for the life of me do women and men BOTH still looking forward to getting married/tied down when this is the type of problem they're gonna be dealin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:00 AM
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He doesn’t even notice or acknowledge the fact that he (generally) has several hours to relax after work while I’m hustling the whole time. Why are you still with your husband?? You should file a divorce and jump onto the next guy who could support you both AND be putting in the effort. Find a richer guy who's established and respect your wishes would do that. Most issues can be solved with money, not sure why are you still staying with him if he gives you so much trouble...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:55 AM
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That's how the world works. Not sure which fantasy you're living in, but old traditional long term monogamy is outdated at this point. Don't you see the rise in fling, hookups due to the advent of technology? Now people have more choices in choosing their partner. That also means women don't have to stick to the old shtick of staying loyal with their partner till death do them apart. Guys do too, they only wanna hook up on hot/sexy women who fulfill their sexual needs, because that's more than e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:20 AM
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The divorce rate among millennials (who are in their 30s & 40s) now, is less than 25%. The only reason divorce rates are lowering is because many people don't care about getting married anymore. Being tied down is a liability, cheating spouses, gaslighting, abuses, you name it. Plus, divorce is expensive. It's not reliable anymore. Another side to OP's argument is that you need a job to survive. But you don't need a partner to survive. Sure, some people might add that marrying a spouse (as a bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:56 PM
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Have you taken into account of horrible relationships that ended up in divorces?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:12 AM
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That's an honest feedback, thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:27 PM
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Okay, when you put it that way and elaborate your thoughts, I can see why. I respect that. But from my POV, we as a society always go for the top, the best. Don't settle until you've found out the one job that you really wanna work on that pays you well, or be in a relationship with that 1 person who has a lot of things to put to the table. Because the way I see it, women will just dump their current partner to go for the next best thing - it makes perfect sense actually. And I believe even your…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:22 PM
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But why though? Would you truly believe in the "in sickness or in health, in rich or in poor" type of deal? That's noble and all, but that's a thing in the past. I found it weird/intriguing that you'd be willing to stay with your partner in the long run, even if you could have more choices in choosing a richer/more good looking partner. Why you'd wanna settle for an okay, when you could go for the very top percentile of men? The way I see it, if your partner with his current financial state/look…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:01 PM
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But won't you have some sort of what ifs at the back of your head? What if you could score a richer and more good looking guy instead of your current partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:39 AM
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Respect that! Wishing you & your partner to have a more exciting journeys ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:15 PM
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Like a woman who's planning to marry a man with less money? Wait, that's surprising. Why aren't you choosing men whose way more financially richer than your fiancé/partner? Wouldn't you have some sort of what-ifs at the back of your head? What if you could spend time in a more luxurious vacations/classy homes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:41 PM
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Yes divorce can happen, but unless your relationship was truly toxic and unhealthy it seems like the years you had someone in your life is still a plus if you were happy during those years/months But is the pain in a relationship worth it though? If you've been in a decade long relationship with a partner, it would hurt a ton if said partner died, even if there's no toxicity or no divorce in that relationship. You still lose either way, whether the relationship turns sour or stays healthy till t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:02 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:50 PM
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I think your selflessness is rare It's not my selflessness actually, I'm just afraid of losing my partner that I would be traumatized/depressed by her death. So, rather than me building an intimate/close bond with someone, I'd rather for her to just build it with someone else. Just so that I won't have to suffer the pain if something bad were to happen to her. That also gives me a peace of mind at the same time. I'm posting this here in hopes that majority would at least consider that losing you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:01 PM
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Why are you so so worried about suffering? I'm not just worry about myself, but I worry more about losing my partner and the emotional hurt that comes with it. I'd imagine that if I were to avoid falling in love, then I won't experience what it's like to be in one. But the upside is that I won't feel the pain of losing my partner too. This is an extreme example (death of a spouse), but this has to be taken into account - a redditor made a post about it (linked below) and lamented on how he regre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:52 PM
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Hmm, I see. Thanks for your feedback, I'm not sure how my future would hold. But if I were to face in a similar situation again where I meet a really amazing and cool person, I could foresee that I would avoid building intimate relationship with said person because I'm unable to provide more. She deserves better. For me, that's the way I guard my emotions and justify my choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:38 PM
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I think if people find romance to be redundant or not worth the risk that’s okay! That being said I think most people won’t fit that category I see, I actually agree to your sentence above now that I've think about it. But one question though, why won't you think most people would fit in that category? The main reason on why I avoid relationship is due to my mindset. Just to share an anecdote of my personal tidbit with you: I've felt an intense crush on an amazing close friend. So before that gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 07:28 AM
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Have you talked to a lot of 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 year old single people, or listened to their opinions on the matter? Or are you just speaking conceptually from opinions you’ve constructed in your own head? The latter actually, lol..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:27 PM
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I'm married, because I wanted to, and while I've experienced heartbreak it does not break the top most negative experiences I've had to suffer in my life by a longshot, and I've been cheated on too. Oh shit, for real though?? Interesting. Relationships are as meaningful as you put effort into, true, but you would nevertheless be sad you lost every relation you know. In regards to your above statement, I beg to differ. Just to share an anecdote of my personal tidbit with you: I've felt an intense…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:23 PM
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But to claim that relationships are “redundant” because you’ve achieved true happiness by yourself, is denial. Why is it denial? If you go around and ask widows who lost their spouse, almost majority would say that they feel sad because they've lost their spouse, and would NEVER EVER enter a relationship again because of how hard it is to navigate in the dating world, especially in this day and age. You wouldn't call these poor unfortunate widow/widower that they're living in denial, would you? …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:18 PM
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Well first of all, if I have a time machine I suddenly have much bigger priorities, though apparently they can't include killing Hitler. Shit.... I can get behind that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:13 PM
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Is it bad though? I mean, some people have a phobia of heights, so they avoid bungee jumping. You wouldn't tell these guys that they're in the wrong for not entertaining their fear of heights, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:41 AM
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To me, anything with wheels that gets me where I’m going, even a bike, is fine. I don’t care what’s printed on it. My god, please not this rubbish again... You wouldn't be satisfied if your partner just be lazy and didn't work harder to provide for both of y'all, would you? I've heard NUMEROUS times that people say "Oh, well I don't care what he or she earns as long as he/she can support themselves". Then next thing you know, they argue about personal belief in managing finances. Same thing with…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 11:33 AM
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So, you say that love gives meaning? What if I say that the love you get from family, friends, support or hobby-based groups are already sufficient on its own?? Riddle me this, suppose you've known a friend who's been single for the past 30 years of his/her own life. Would you deem that friend of yours as miserable if he/she avoids relationship? Would you deem that person as "incomplete", because he/she avoids to get into traps by getting into a relationship or whatever crap that society/media e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:05 AM
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Others can show you that you are worthy of love but only if you’re willing to accept that. Does it even matter though? If you wanna let others affect you that much, then, by the same principle, if others wanna show that you are worthy of being hated, then you're willing to pander to that too regardless of how ignorant their reasonings are? It would be way, way better to just treat both (love & hate) from others as one and the same - a distraction. We’re also social animals so even the most well …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:45 AM
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That's splendid!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:39 AM
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are they just supposed to shut out a mutual attraction with someone who seems really good for them? If they're living a carefree YOLO life without a care in the world, they would've known better to avoid relationship. Hence, there's no need to shut out any sort of attraction, why?? Because there's no attraction to even begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:39 AM
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Let me ask you this: I'm not sure if you've been into a relationship before, but have you ever thought to yourself that you were "incomplete" when you were/are single, solely because you haven't find your "other half" or whatever nonsense that society expounds of? That's the my main gripe. We each of our own born out of our mom's womb being single from the very start. We don't have the spouse/partner crap assigned to us ever since we were little kids growing up. We were able to do fairly well ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:39 AM
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Plenty of people find themselves falling in love and partnering up way before they reach contentment or self actualization And that above statement of yours proves my point that most people who're in relationship are also confused on why they're not being happier compared to when they were single. Because if you're okay being single, then the only reason you wanna enter a relationship is to be happier, richer, or something to gain out of it, right? Most people who're entering a relationship maki…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:24 AM
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I don’t need to need someone in my life to want them in it. There, you've said it yourself. If you don't need someone, why do you need to poke the bees nest and find some troubles if that relationship goes haywire, down the road? We don’t need people but we should have them. I don't see why we need to enter a serious long term monogamous relationship? Just find some FWB/ONS would do then. I mean even biologically self sufficiency doesn’t exist. Self sufficiency doesn't exist, but you don't need …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:59 AM
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Your SO doesn't mind-wipe you. You can break up and still have the knowledge. It doesn't wipe the bad memories, but those bad memories lingers. That's what we should avoid. Riddle me this hypothetical scenario then:- You know a friend who's totally content being single. Then she enters a relationship and ended up being abused/gaslighted and faced a terrible breakup after years of being with her ex. She became a shell of her former self because of all the hate and trauma that she got from that re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:54 AM
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I don’t know how the presence of another person can add to the life I’ve built for myself so far. That's what I totally agree. Romantic relationships can bring new perspectives to things and introduce you to more things if you’re open minded. New perspectives could be good, and bad as well. Say, would you abandon your comfort zone now and venture into a relationship, only then to end up with a cheater or abuser? It would be easier to say yes, but when we face harsh heartbreak, we would then wond…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:51 AM
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most people who are alone long term are absolutely fucking miserable Then you must've missed a large chunk of folks who hated their partners, but ended up staying with their spouses just for the sake of maintaining fake image of being in a relationship. We as humans don't need romantic/spousal relationship. We only need food, water, shelter, money. If we still need relationship, we can join a group/find friends without needing the serious attachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:49 AM
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People shouldn’t be entering into relationships expecting to suddenly become happy. Then what's the point of being in a relationship then? Might as well just don't disturb the peaceful state of mind in being single, and throw it away by being in a relationship, only to then ended up being cheated/abused. Even if everything goes well, partner could potentially die, and the hurt/trauma of losing yet another loved ones doesn't outweigh the benefits of being in said relationship. You need to be able…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:47 AM
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I disagree, matter of fact, we've increasingly realized what constitutes to our needs as the years go by. Think about it, all those fluffy stuffs that society and media props up to you, almost none of it are totally required. Case in point - society places a large emphasize on education: Society keeps on urging teenagers to attend college/university because that's the most "stable"/conventional way of getting a job, right? Well, times have changed. Many have realized that it's also possible to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:42 AM
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once you’re happy alone i feel like you should have much higher standards of compatibility for a relationship. then it’ll have the potential to make you even happier Once you feel you're happy alone, then full stop. Don't need to disturb that state of equilibrium any more. The only reason people abandon their contentment in singleness is that they expected more out of a relationship, right? But that expectations shattered once they find out that relationships could go bad. And you might then ref…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:37 AM
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The idea is not that you’ve found “true happiness” being alone so you don’t NEED to find happiness in a relationship. The idea is that by being comfortable with yourself and not being dependent on someone else for your own self worth, you wont over-burden the person you eventually end up in a relationship with and risk ruining the relationship by being overly dependent. No, that's the main gripe that I have with the above statement. My main thing that I wanna point out is that lots of people (gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:27 AM
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It's unrealistic to go into relationship expecting it to be more fun than being single/content. The only reason it seems happier is due to the love-dovey bed of roses with tinted glasses that media and society has portrayed. My main thing that I wanna point out is that lots of people (guys especially) started working out relentlessly, work more to climb up the financial ladder, groom themselves, join out hobbies outing just for the sake of getting into the relationship. I bold the previous state…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:22 AM
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If you wanna gain something, you at least gotta be ready if that good thing would come to an ugly end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:59 AM
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Can you fully guarantee that you'll be happy 100% all the time, throughout your married life? Impossible. We shouldn't aim for happiness or avoid sadness, we should just strive for maintaining contentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:58 AM
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my Dad died from overworking himself while I was still in school Damn, my condolences. but I still acknowledge that we do need people in order for society to function and people come from relationships not flying storks with babies. Hmm... Can't say I totally agree with that though. At the end of the day, society is replaceable. What I meant by that is that we can easily hire immigrants for social care jobs. Or, in the case of Japan where they're already facing shortages of caring for the elderl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:36 PM
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Content is enough, not everybody is lucky to land into a good relationship. Relationship is akin to investment. If you've invest wisely and get lots of good ROIs over the years, you'll feel that it's all worth it. On the other side of that same coin, we'll have to acknowledge that if you're losing lots of money over investing the wrong things, you would be really miserable and suffer from your mistakes in investment. The highs/happiness are higher, but the lows/sadness are lower as well. Relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:15 PM
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If a relationship does end in heartbreak, all that indicates is that one has met the wrong person, not that relationships themselves are bad. Easier said than done. You and I both know how much of a devastation it would be, especially true for a partner who faced heartbreak after finding out that their years/decades long marriage life have been shattered by a scandal/cheat/abuse. Like what another commenter wrote - I do agree that having relationship has lots of positive feedback, as you already…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:12 PM
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I don't think normalizing celibacy is going to solve problems because the discontentment is up to the individual, not society. I don't see why that's a problem. People normalizing relationships as 1 of the ultimate milestones in life. Heck, social medias, movies, and celebration events often hypes up how much one would miss out if one doesn't have a partner or brings a partner to events like holidays and shit. Again, valid concern that discontentment is up to individual, but this can be trained.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:08 PM
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Valid POV, thanks for your feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 02:02 PM
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You raised some very valid concerns. But again, I wanna highlight some stuffs based on your comment: How old are you? I'm 26. I'll be financially independent and, on the track to becoming a self-made millionaire by 35, money is still just money. Dude, you're doing way way better than me. I still have about 40k worth of student debts, and I don't think I'll even earn my 1st million till I'm in my mid 40's. What are you worrying about? Relax and chill. My money is not going to do shit if there's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 01:58 PM
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I don't think that issue really warrants a heavy attention since the population decline is only gonna be severe in about 50 years from now, by the time which we would be either very old, or already gone. It's not our problem to worry, let the future generations and leader figure this out. I'm sure they'll find some ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 01:38 PM
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Alright, I rest my case. Let's agree to disagree, because we've many back & forth, but we have totally different POV. I appreciate your feedback though, I just don't agree with your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 01:11 PM
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Well, the issue you've mentioned here where older generations are getting more than youth/middle aged gens ain't nothing new. Matter of fact, it's happening all over the developed world. Japan, South Korea, US, Germany, other European countries, etc... are all recording a declining population. It's not bad, its just that people are realizing that it takes a lot of work, effort, time and money to be in a committed relationship, raise families and shit. So it only makes sense that as the year goes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 01:00 PM
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Ummm, that's not bad?? Because we have a lot of people going around, so I totally don't mind if we try to control the population a little bit. Though that's not the point of my argument in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:51 PM
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Do you stop doing anything because of one possible negative consequence? I don't think its wrong to take into account of potential traumatic negative consequence. Its logical actually. Does a spouse dying negate all the positive experiences of the relationship? It doesn't negate all the positive experience, but it makes the living widow/spouse to feel way more isolated/lonely, compared to another person who lived alone throughout his/her life, without any strings attached. How many time we heard…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:33 PM
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Though the more happy/content you are single, the less likely you will settle and tolerate someone abusive Yes, this is the statement that I relate the most. If you're already happy/content being single. You no longer need a relationship. I think I've pointed out in another comment, but another similarities for relationship is gaming. Gaming is a hobby, not everyone plays game, not everyone even enjoys it, though majority of young adult plays them. I've known some friends who don't play or have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:22 PM
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What’s the issue? If you find/happened to meet a good partner who is compatible, it’s like gaining a lifelong friend/partner. The issue lies in the potentially dealing with heartbreak that comes from a relationship. You're happy now, because you're in a good relationship. I bet you would swear your partner off and avoid relationship if you're in a bad/abusive relationship. That's a risk that we have to take into account. Think of it this way, i’m full/content most days after a meal. Do i need a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:12 PM
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Are there people who are better off alone? Yup, I totally agree on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:08 PM
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the idea to avoid any close human contact usually comes not from personal happiness, but fear. I'm not saying we should cut off human contact forever and move over to the south pole and live with penguins, though. I'm just saying, society as a whole should stop pushing the narration of finding romantic partnership. This is another analogy that I wanna present - society keeps on urging teenagers to attend college/university because that's the most "stable"/conventional way of getting a job, right…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:05 PM
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You're totally on the money, that's right!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:41 AM
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I was content with being on my own (as content as a teen can be), but dating my husband made me happier. The above sentence you've written is literally the textbook definition of survivorship bias. You mentioned the beauty/benefits of falling in love only because your husband is amazing/wonderful guy. But do you take into account of a scenario of other contented/happy single ladies who wound up hurt because they've been abused/cheated by their spouses later on? Do you take into account of you be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:39 AM
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You've said it yourself, individual peace is requisite for romantic, therefore, without the former, you won't have the latter. This also means that romantic relationships with others is dependent upon our inner peace. Hence that further proves my point - if you already have inner/individual peace, finding a romantic relationship/cohabitation is already redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:30 AM
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That sound alright, not gonna lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:29 AM
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Hookups are not for those who are not strikingly attractive(aka look hot and have a strong presence). What could an ugly person do? Go to a prostitute? The way I see it, going to a prostitue/hookup for sex, in exchange of money is way more simpler, but straightforward. No strings attached. You wanna keep on having sex because the sex is amazing, even though you don't care about anything else? Well good for him/her. That totally beats a situation where many married couples complained about having…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:24 AM
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Agree, thumbs up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:12 AM
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Because if you've been into relationship, you could ended up feeling somewhat incomplete or something wrong with you after you've break up. Again, if you're single all the way, you won't know what you're missing out on. No gain, no pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:45 AM
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A relationship should be something that enhances your life. It shouldn’t be something so integral to your happiness that you end up trapped in it. That's the thing, almost majority of people enter a relationship in hopes of getting and/or expecting happiness. Oh, I've landed in a relationship with cute girl, hence I should be happy... Till I found out that relationship requires lots of effort, work, sacrifice. There's nothing wrong with wanting a relationship. But my main gripe with it is that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:14 AM
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Yeah, let us become post discontent instead of post scarcity Wait, can you elaborate more on that part? I'm unclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:02 AM
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But once you love being alone, then I personally believe that you should avoid getting into a relationship. The main reason we see lots of people being miserable/sad online is that they're not in a relationship, and a major part of them attributed those sadness to FOMO, being lonely, etc... But if these same group of people are busy indulging in their activities, hobbies, or being content with their own lifestyle without involving anything related to dating/relationship, then they would be in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 09:01 AM
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