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CMVPleb-Tier_Basic/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 04:00 AM
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Post for ModsPleb-Tier_Basic/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:33 PM
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So I've been in and out of the pill scene for a while. Discovered the red pill back in 2013, hung out there for most of the year before switching to blue and the end of the year, hung out there until maybe mid 2015 before stuff in my personal life changed and I took a hiatus, just came back to this sub maybe a month ago due to boredum + wanting to see if the old fires still burned. My point being that I've been in and around these communities for half a decade. I've watched them grow, evolve and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 02:16 AM
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I think TRP, among other things, suffer from being trapped in its own epistemological horizons. You insist that all human relationships are essentially just market relationships, and then deduct from there that people are essentially easily replaceable or can be "swapped out" based on a semi-standard criteria, or worded differently, people are fundamentally commodities in the dating "market". If you start with the assumption that romantic relationships are at their core a market interaction, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 07:57 PM
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I've met a few guys who were accused of rape and they basically faces no consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 12:17 PM
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To be fair, most civilized places outside of america recognize that more than two political ideologies exist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 06:02 AM
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Why is this trend occurring? There has been a general shift in North American politics towards the right since at least 2001 (arguably as early as the 1970s). Obviously as this shift occurs left-wing positions such as cosmopolitanism, pro-labour, and yes, feminism, are going to lose ground. That fact that most of today'ss power feminists (such as Emma Watson) need to water down their message and adopt moderate or even conservative positions and are still losing ground speaks volumes (and I hate …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:59 AM
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Just because somebody is wrong doesn't mean they aren't human.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 05:47 AM
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Yup hit the nail on the head. My complaint is more that traditional masculinity is by far the most common
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:50 PM
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How are we defining success? Getting laid is easy, entering a meaningful relationship is wayyyy harder
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:43 PM
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Could it be a race thing? At my university many of the engineers are first/second gen immigrants from the middle east, india, or east asian. Most of them have really strict parents that don't allow them to date
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:35 PM
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I am a man. And my experience is that generally speaking, men are incredibly hostile to each other. I have no love for any of the men here because you could also be the guy that tries to fight me next time I'm leaving the bar. At least in real life, women actually listen to me and try to understand what I'm saying. Most men seem to either be trying to one up me, or trying to tear me down in front of their bros, and I have no patience for it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 06:34 PM
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First things first, my blue pill advice is that you shouldn't assume that your experience with this one person is universal. Was this a girl shitty who used you? yes. But that doesn't mean that the natural order of things is AFBB and that mutually beneficial relationships are impossible. Other than that, dump her. I've been saying it for years: if you're in your first relationship, dump them. It never works, ever, and even when it does it work it doesn't really work. You said it yourself; you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 06:03 PM
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This question has been asked dozens of times before
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 05:56 PM
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Discuss What is the complaint here exactly, that women want the best for themselves and have options? It's bullshit that they would rather stay available than settle for you? Maybe the reason this date didn't work out is because despite your well paying job and good communication skills, you're still the kind of person who responds to rejection by blaming everybody else and throwing out accusations of entitlement and perfectionism around. Imagine if you held this view in other areas of your life…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 02:14 AM
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A general rule I follow in my day to day life is that I don't ask questions unless I know I will be comfortable with all possible answers. If I meet a woman and I like her and she likes me, I don't generally ask about her previous sexual experiences. Don't get me wrong, I am perfectly secure in my own sexuality. But hearing what she did with who, and how often, are details I don't really care about. All that matters to me is what she does with me. TRP gets wrapped up on this question of who is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 01:47 AM
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A lot of field reports seem to be conjecture; the OP is assuming things about the target's mindset based on a handful of non-verbal cues and/or guessing. Consider this which is currently on the TRP front page: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3tzrru/fr_met_up_with_my_exfiancee_at_a_bar_last_night/ ...The truth is that I was in fact going somewhere "close" to the bar afterwards - home, to go to bed. I didn't lie at all, I just didn't tell her what I was doing. I let the hamster do all…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 03:57 PM
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I didn't dodge. I said that qualitative relationship attributes, such as level of shared interest can't be easily condensed into measured units. That doesn't mean qualitative values don't exist and don't have an effect on the work place. And if your female boss' hobbies were predominantly women-centric and had no bearing at all on the type of work you did, and yet she only promoted employees that also were into those irrelevant hobbies (which happens to be almost all women), then yes I would say…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 08:55 PM
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anecdotes and assumptions Which is so far all you've given. Are you denying the relationships have a qualitative angle to them, and that generally speaking, that angle can directly affect one's access to promotions/power/etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 02:09 AM
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Wouldn't this defeat the purpose though? TRP maintains any man can "get it" if they do the steps you suggested (take better care of yourself etc). Why would class action be necessary then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 10:45 PM
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Not all measures of social success are quantifiable. In fact I would argue most relationships, professional or otherwise, are characterized by their qualitative value added. No, I cant put a number down as say "rooting for your boss' football team will increase your salary by 5$ on average" but it's just as ridiculous to say "not giving a fuck about your boss' football team will have absolutely no impact on how he views you as a person" And if a promotion comes down to Jim and Deb, and the boss …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 10:26 PM
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What does that have to do with Gawker?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 03:19 AM
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Did you even read the OP? The quote OP is talking specifically about as the content of this post is that women get passed on for promotion because they have less in common with their male bosses Because men are almost always going to have more in common with other men, that’s who they’re going to default to when it comes time to pass out a tip, a piece of advice, or more noticeably, a promotion Literally right there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 03:18 AM
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Women hate bitter men because they take their experience with a small handful of people and assume that it applies to literally 50% of the population, and then use that assumption to prejudge people the first time they meet them. Nobody likes getting stereotyped, but stereotyping is the hallmark of the bitter man, ergo people tend to avoid them. It has nothing to do with success.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 12:13 AM
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do you care about the truth yep
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 12:09 AM
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Why is this sexism? Because bosses are hiring based on shared male interests rather than gender-neutral measures like value added and/or merit, which make way more sense in a co-ed, profit driven entity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 12:09 AM
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I strongly disagree with both slut and player shaming. I also think it's safe to assume that the kinds of people who slut shame also player shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 09:40 PM
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Nope, I fundamentally disagree with TRP views on attraction, game, and the rest. Your tone doesn't help, but even with a better tone I would still dislike TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 09:39 PM
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Later this week: "Q4BP: why do people think TRP is sexist"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 09:38 PM
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Well then it needs to be enforced more
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:42 PM
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okay? So what is the big insight then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:33 PM
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Speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:21 PM
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This is literal insanity. Next week he'll be telling you that lizard people from the center of the earth have infested the royal families of Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:21 PM
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Wait, what if I think fraud and rape are both problems our society should seek to get rid of? Why does it have to be one or the other? Is it not possible for me to rally against both?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 10:15 PM
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Girls are fundamentally untrustworthy-simply not true. Trust should always be distributed on a case by case basis and any other method is braindead Female friends are impossible- not true either, I have a lots of women as friends
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 07:28 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 07:25 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 01:51 AM
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Man forget patriarchy and how this ties into society. This guy is an idiot for not getting a lawyer immediately when he got arrested, a lawyer smart enough to tell him to stay the fuck away from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 01:49 AM
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Hey I apprecaite you taking the time to send this reply. I know often PPD feels like yelling into a black hole so I really appreciate you taking the time to follow up, it does mean a lot to me to know that at least one person has been taking my ideas seriously. As for your friend, I'm glad you found a solution. I know that one of the biggest buzz kills in my own friendships was when we got into the habit of hanging out at the same 2 bars every weekend, so I'm with your friend 100% on the need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 01:32 AM
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You are right. You win. Claim your prize Edit: oh and just because you don't understand something doesn't make it a fallacious argument (sophism). I don't understand quantum mechanics, that doesn't make it a sophism
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 09:24 PM
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Your question was "why doesn't patriarchy help MRA" but you refuse to either a: recognize the ideology (structural feminism) that could answer that question or b: enter a discussion about ideologies themselves and how they help to include or exclude different modes of thought. So I don't know how I can help you. If you want a structural explanation of patriarchy, pick up a book. I don't have time or patience to walk you through the last 400 years of academic history, especially if you intended t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 07:12 PM
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I think that your answers show that your clearly do not know what you are talking about. For starts "utopia" is just a catch all phrase meaning an idealized society. What the utopia actually looks like depends on which ideology you ascribe to, which is why diametrically opposed philosophies (ex. Nazism and Stalinism) can both be claiming to be building a utopia. If you live in a liberal democracy (US, Canada, UK, Western Europe, Australia) then the dominant ideology (today) is liberalism (freedo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 07:28 PM
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Its one of those truisms that sounds deep but really just conforms to your pre-conceived ideas about how sexuality works. I could easily say "a pencil sharpener that sharpens all pencils is good, but a pencil sharpened too many times is useless". As for your biological arguments, they're basically just conjecture. To start, the goal of reproduction in a survival of the fittest scenario is to pass on her genes, not the best possible gene combination; as long as her 50% survive to the next generat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 06:00 AM
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it just sounds like you are more in tune with how men exhibit their sex drive v. how women do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 05:50 AM
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It's not a competition. Coontown is absolute garbage but it is offensive for different reasons and in a different way. You're comparing apples to oranges
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 05:47 AM
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If they are, as feminists say, a regressive and anti-equality reactionary group, You answered your own question. Imagine progress as a continuum. As time has gone on, society has moved from one side to the other, continually breaking new ground. This movement is called "progress" and people who support it are "progressives". Where we are today (as a society) is somewhere in the middle of this continuum; we're more progressive than previous generations, but less progressive than is ideologically …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 05:45 AM
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This applies to all old people. Even if your happily married, its very unlikely both of you will die at the same time, which means that when one does die the other will be still around and still need to be taken care of. In Canada we have social security which is a government funded subsistence program for the elderly. It isn't lavish but, combined with free healthcare and targeted assistance programs (such as nursing homes), it enables them to live out their life without having to worry about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 05:36 AM
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The real question: who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 05:32 AM
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I am a man and I wouldn't; how do I fit into your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 01:55 AM
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"I met two girls, got there numbers, and they stopped talking to me in a week" Yup sounds like a flawless victory to me -.-. I find it telling that you don't explain why it didn't work with Rachel (i.e you're only telling us the one that fits the TRP narrative)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 11:37 PM
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Why? Isn't this like completely against TRP doctrine? When are you going to tell her? Will you? Are you afraid of her reaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 10:47 PM
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Every week here: This one person agrees with something TRP has done; doesn't this prove that feminism is about to collapse? I mean seriously guys if you were religious you'd be the people declaring "Jesus' about to return so sell all your shit" every 2 years
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 10:41 PM
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If this happens, it is by the hands of their boss, .... Feminist Frequency is making bank. So you basically have no idea how the creative process works. Noted. Zoe Quinn has....isn't Malcolm X. Well both Quinn and Sarkeesian had to flee their homes due to real life harassment. So I think it's a little more than just 14 year olds on twitter. Also, I'd like to remind you that Sarkeesian is a Critic by profession and has been targeted because she was doing her job. It's true that Sarkeesian is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 10:25 PM
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P2 Why should everyone fear sex and violence in entertainment? I'm pretty sure if games caused violence, like smoking causes cancer, we would know about it by now. I don't see how you go from "lets get everybody onboard" to "lets expunge all violence and sex from all media". The problem isn't that people are squeemish and want to take the violent entertainment from you, the problem is that for some mediums (gaming being the most obvious) violence is the only option except for a tiny handful of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 09:19 PM
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So I read your post and I guess I'm laughing because you're basically making an argument basically in support of what the person you're replying to said. They clearly said: They want to change the status quo, which right now is predominantly catering to straight, white males. A new status quo would be more critical of this and attempt to reach not just straight white guys, but everyone.... People are getting tired of seeing whitey mc dude bro rescue some helpless twit or sex up all the hookers i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 09:18 PM
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Its true that women tend not to stream into the (geek) creation field. But I think we're coming up on a chicken and egg problem; is the field sexist because it lacks women, or does it lack women because it is sexist? Sarkeesian and her contemporaries obviously believe it's the second, and I think there is a lot of reason to agree with them. Plenty of barriers exist to bringing women into the field, the biggest being that attempts to write more realistic depictions of women get blocked or discard…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:50 AM
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Though I agree that people would be annoyed, I don't think it's a fair comparison because Sailor Moon is the exception in an otherwise male-dominated genre. If 60% or greater of all "geek" shows had the structure of Sailor Moon then yes, I'd agree with the MRA complaint. But as of 2015 basically the opposite is true; Sailor Moon (and it's few contemporaries) represent the exception, not the rule, and so I think that it is unfair to use it as a counter example against Sarkeesian
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 03:14 PM
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sorry I meant the top post right now, as in like the first thing one would see if they just went to www.reddit.com/r/MensRights I should have specified
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 01:07 AM
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Either way you have completely ignored my point. The top post right now is basically just dudes complaining about the actions of one person, which they believe represents the "established" view of men. To an outsider who isn't sold on the movement and wouldn't necessarily make the jump from "this one person did something wrong" to "this is how society writ large treats men", this seems like incoherent ranting. I know it is difficult but please try to step out of your bubble; why would somebody w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 12:04 AM
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Right except one random activist isn't "the establishment"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 11:43 PM
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Fight Club is about the irony of swapping out one shitty dead-end ideology for another. The narrator starts the movie as basically a slave to capitalism, waiting to die and completely alienated. Tyler comes along with a philosophy that starts as anti-capital but quickly evolves into some kind of extreme traditionalist, almost tribal view of how society should be. The narrator at first feels more free but then quickly realizes he's just as stuck as he was before, maybe even more so because his li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 09:56 PM
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sub: too much hyperbole. I like joking around as much as the next guy but I think more nuanced take downs would be better BP: I will concede to TRP that traditional dating advice is pretty limited for men. I think that as BP we sometimes put too much stock into the idea that things will just magically work out; I look at my own dating history and realize that things didnt just magically work out, but rather I had to change as a person first. I don't believe this means swallowing TRP but I do thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 09:48 PM
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I think the reason this line of thinking is rejected is because it's non-transferable. If being an emo is who you are and all you do is try to hook up with other emos, that works great for you but will fail for anybody who isn't emo; as you know it's basically impossible to fake your way into a subculture. TRP tries to cast as a large of a net as possible, meaning it's advice is naturally going to be the most no-duh, boring mainstream bullshit; any advice more specific than what you could find i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 09:40 PM
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From what I've seen, they seem incapable of packaging it in a way that isn't hostile to women, women's rights, or feminism. I mean, I just opened r/MRA and this is the first thread (excluding pinned ones): Entitled "anti-rape-activist" threatens her date and gets angry when he cancels. Some comments: He was a total fuck boy about consent. And you're a raging cunt about it, sweetheart. (+139) Showing your crazy cards before the first date? C'mon that's naive. (+71) I can relate to why he canceled…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 09:27 PM
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it upsets they're warped view of history
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 09:14 PM
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Divorce is cheap and easy If you are a citizen. I imagine most mail ordered brides are not citizens and I would even wager that a good number are probably in America illegally
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 09:09 PM
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So why did you ask the question if you have already decided the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 03:23 PM
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how you met -- what you did to attract her sexually -- what you did to keep her -- were you having sex with more than one woman simultaneously, whether the women knew about each I'll do the most recent one so that there is no confusion how you met Tinder What you did to attract her sexually asked her for coffee, hung out, got to know her, got her number, kept hanging out, decided to "netflix and chill" one night, starting cuddling, then dry humping, then banging. what you did to keep her Nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:51 PM
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Well it stands to reason one TRP would actively avoid other TRPs, unless that TRP were trying to pickup men. Seems to me that it's just common sense that TBP (who is mostly women) would have more interactions with men using TRP (a sexual strategy), than TRP men would have with other TRP men. You don't run into redpillers in real life because why would you? Unless they're trying to pick you up they're not going to openly display redpill techniques, except for the universal ones like "be fit" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:47 PM
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Look for women who want a non-stereotypical TRP man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:41 PM
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Is this even a question?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:39 PM
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What do you think of this analysis of the recent interest women have taken with nerd culture? I think you're taking a large scale cultural shift and attempting to explain it as women lying about what they're really into because women in previous eras weren't into it. Nerd culture is a huge field but there are some common threads; mainly that was is popular now is what kids in the later 1980's/1990's grew up with. During the 80s and 90s childrens television was dominated by Western animation (Bat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:34 PM
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My family ran pretty traditional gender roles. Dad was the primary income earner, mom did the majority of the domestic labor/child rearing/etc, though she also worked PT to suppliment my Dads income how was it? Lots of conflict between my parents. My mom took on too much work because she was balancing domestic duties against a PT job. Her and my dad got in conflict a lot because although he made the money, around the house his ability to do simple domestic tasks (like cook) was pretty limited. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:23 PM
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So you're gonna just completely ignore the first half of my post? Rad. You want advice? Use the search bar. This topic is asked here every week. And the sad reality is that most TRPs do need to be told to treat women as humans, cause many of them seem to believe that women are simple mathematical equations wherein x+y=z, and so as long as you make the right moves you'll get the same output each time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 05:15 AM
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Wonder how that dude is doing now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 05:11 AM
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I bet that if we added up all manosphere users and found a way to do that were we only count each user once (because I bet there is a lot of crossover) it would still be significantly less that 999,870,000 people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 05:09 AM
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It's a win win because it makes it easier for us to quickly sift out the dickheads in reddit at large
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 05:58 AM
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TRP specifically defines anybody not "unplugged" as bluepill, and anybody who subscribes to the TRP community as redpill. So in reality that means that it's 130,000 reds to ~7,200,870,000 bluepills. Even if we disclude developing countries and only look at the first world it's still 130,000 reds to ~999,870,000 bluepills. So by the TRP's own ideology, yes, bluepill is dominant. If you're refering specifically to the subreddit though, Reddit's demographic is skewed in a way that benefits TRP, not…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 05:57 AM
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(citation needed)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 05:47 AM
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Same dif on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 05:43 AM
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Oh joy this question again. My bluepill advice for you is to learn how to use the search bar before you post. Edit: also, "treat women like humans"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 05:41 AM
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Never had this problem with male friends but with all my female friends. One difference between my close male friends and my close female friends is that I hang out with my female friends more often. Not because they were more important, but "going out less and making it count" was always the M.O in my male circle of friends. Maybe this is why? It sounds counter-intuitive but the more you chill with somebody the more friction is likely to occur; you're more likely to do boring things together, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 05:25 AM
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Did you really fix it though? Previously, you were unhappy and figured more friends would make you happy. So you made friends. You are still unhappy, but now you figure a girlfriend will make you happy. Do you honestly believe that? You were lonely before, and you're lonely now. Where does the cycle stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 05:03 AM
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Idk normally I would give you a long answer but I don't have the energy so I'll just say this. A man said to the Buddha, “I want Happiness.” Buddha said, first remove “I”, that’s ego, then remove “want”, that’s desire. See now you are left with only Happiness. Although Buddha never actually said that I do believe that quote applies here. You want a girlfriend because you think you feel as though you are owed one/need one to be happy. Your unhappiness stems from a need to fulfil your ego, as you …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 04:57 AM
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If he's happy and they're happy then who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 04:34 AM
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I got it a lot from my folks growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 04:26 AM
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It's Cracked so who gaf. It's a dead magazine that's been reanimated as a listicle site. What's next, a dissection of the race politics found on Buzzfeed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 04:21 AM
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The three things you listed IMO definitely count as personal faults. No pre-selection/all male friends As a guy, this is a huge red flag for me when I meet other men. Even in my grade school, "eww cuties" stage I still had friends who were girls, and excluding maybe an 1-2 year awkward stage in highschool, I've always had a lot of girls in my social circles. If I meet a single guy (who is older than 16) who has only male friends, that really makes me wonder why that is. 'Pre-selection' is a thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:25 PM
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Not really a falsifiable theory
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 09:12 PM
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Until I see some hard science I'm not listening to a word you say about biology. You want to make the claim, you have to support the claim. Everyone who lacks in social status in a certain environment must be absolutely horrific to be around? Seriously? Every person who's been ostracized or has social difficulties is horrible? Every human or group of humans in history who have not been accepted by the majority are horrific? Never said anything about any of this. I said that somebody who is lacki…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:32 PM
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....? I avoid 4chan typically so that doesn't mean much to me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 10:04 PM
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Both diploma's, both work in a professional field
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:57 PM
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To be fair most suicide bombers aren't nihilists, they're martyr's for whichever cause they're bombing for (also not all SBs are Muslims or doing said bombing in the name of religion; for example, the Tamil Tigers used suicide bombers for a nationalistic, not religious, agenda)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:55 PM
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Seriously? There's 318 million people in America, or about 159 million men. So far in 2015 there has been 293 mass shootings, which are defined by wiki as 4+ victims. So, without even looking at the causes of these shootings (most are gang related) and assuming all shooters were men (many were unidentified) we can say that only 0.00018% of men will commit a mass shooting in a year, or that there is only 1 shooter for every 542,662 men in the country. To put that in perspective, Schizophrenics in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:51 PM
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thousands of years of tradition, and we've managed to undo it in about a century. If only those damned feminists could focus on a cure for cancer or colonizin the moon, we could've done that instead
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:23 PM
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Also this is an American problem, not a gendered issue. This shit happens elsewhere, yes, but not even at like 1/100th the rate it does in America
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:21 PM
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How did you get that he was an incel from that thread? OP gives no reason for the shooting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:20 PM
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I think you might be projecting a bit. Just because you would cheat at the drop of a hat doesn't mean all men will
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:18 PM
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Social status isn't genetic, it's social (as in, right there in the name). Women aren't attracted to men without status because they are biologically hardwired to seek specific values, it's because somebody absolutely lacking in status is probably absolutely horrific to be around (which is how they wound up with low social value to begin with). I'll draw an easy comparison. Roosh said once that he hates how he has to do things like "shower" in order to maintain appearances for women. To any sane…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:15 PM
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Why on earth would the world's super powers go to war with each other? America and China are each other's third largest trading partners. Russia depends heavily on China and America to buy their oil, which is why their economy is tanking currently thanks to American led sanctions. Not that any of this matters because all of the world's super powers currently hold a shit load of nuclear weapons, which means that any real war between super powers probably won't be hyper dependent on conscripts get…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 09:05 PM
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Rome was a single state that relied on perpetually expanding its territory in order to fund the military that allowed it to exist. The similarities are few. I don't think America will be on top for ever but I also don't think there is going to be another war that will require conscription, unless we enter some kind of doomsday WW3 scenario but were that to happen too many nukes would be flying and it wouldn't matter anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:56 PM
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Well to be fair I think the conspiratards are looking to get into a Red Dawn type situation where they can run an insurgency for years until the government is forced to concede, not unlike what defeated the US occupation of Iraq or South Vietnam. I think any serious survivalist conspiratard would be avoiding an actual battle at all cost because there is litterally nothing to be done against drones/jets/etc but I digreess
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 08:45 PM
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Nothing says "pussy magnet" like leaching off your parents well into "adult"hood
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:51 PM
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Self-awareness and narcissism typically don't play well together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:50 PM
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NEET is a thing? What do these people do with their time? How is their internet connection paid for? Fuck eggman or whatever I want to know more about what a NEET is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:47 PM
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I'm not making a comparison here and then the next 3 lines was a comparison. One or the other bro. Also it's telling that you completely blew past my point about your views on biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:45 PM
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Who fights our wars now? Most men in any western country today would last about 35 second on a battlefield. Our wars today are fought by: Robots/drones/computer-guided missles/etc Foreign paramilitary units covertly funded/equipped by our government(s) Technically adept, highly specialized, highly trained operators/engineers utilizing billion-dollar pieces of equipment from miles away (pilots, sailors, etc) And as a last resort, a highly trained, highly specialized, technically adept and technol…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:29 PM
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Man what the fuck are you even talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:11 PM
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Nah, we would never build an economic system based on perpetual growth...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:10 PM
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Except TRP and MGTOW right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:08 PM
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The amount of salt this comment has generated is inspiring
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:06 PM
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Okay wait so, you're comparing your view (as a MGTOW) of women to that of a Stormfronter's view of Jews? And you're making the (totally baseless) claim that women are biologically incapable to idealized love and affection? On second thought, I change my mind. I wish MGTOW was just the case of a child throwing a temper tantrum. Your perspective is way scarier
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 09:59 PM
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which comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 09:53 PM
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A common insult towards feminists is that they're salty fat bitches who are bitter because they can't get laid, and thats why they're feminist. I think that's a fair comparison. Example
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 09:47 PM
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I never thought I'd say it but listen to TRP on this one. If you're too old to be a frat bro than it's time to let go of the dream. Live the life you have, don't go chasing ghosts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:58 AM
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Meh the world is a cold place. Everybody else grew up in this culture too but only a small handful of dudes become "incels" like OP, the rest of us learned the rules of the game and got on with our lives. Most people figure this shit out in highschool, and even the late bloomers typically get it wrapped up by their mid 20s. If you're 25+ and still a virgin and/or can't seem to get laid to save your life, you probably have some serious interpersonal problems and need to talk to a therapist, not i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:56 AM
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If a guy wants sex, he has to pay a prostitute, marry and provide for some woman, or work super hard to be attractive and have "game" to keep women entertained/attracted. Wait whats the complaint here again? Shouldnt you always be striving to be a person who is entertaining and attractive? This reminds me of a redpill thread where a user was complaining about having to do basic things like shower in order to attract women. Typically life gives out what you put in; if you approach life with the v…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:47 AM
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Man how old are you? I mean, your complaint here is what, exactly? That nobody wants to get intimate with you? Like it's about figuring each other out and exploring another human being at a really intimate level. But damn what I miss the most is looking into someones eyes and having them smile at you. I was walking through the park and saw this lady like, smile at this dude and reach up and give him a bear hug and you just feel your heart wring itself out like god damn how are you that pathetic,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:33 AM
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MGTOW to me is like a kid throwing a tantrum. If a man was truly going his own way he would go, he wouldn't need to talk about it because he would be doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:22 AM
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If you throw enough darts at the bored, some will stick. I won't deny that TRPs have some success. The question is, is TRPs success because TRP "works", or because it's statistically inevitable? Plenty of people praise TRP and talk about how they never had the confidence/know-how to ask a girl out before discovering TRP. What that says to me is that their success rate initially is 0/0 (0%) and litterally any success with TRP would "confirm" that trp works; after all, if a user is 0/0 but then st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:17 AM
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Dude sounds upset that people who make money can spend it how they choose?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:12 AM
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This is a false dichotomy. I can reject TRP/PUA (which is a very specific set of ideas/instructions) without being FA/Incel (which is also a very specific situation). The bluepill guide to women is simple: Don't be afraid to say what you think/ask for what you want Treat women like people Discover/hone tact Don't get discouraged by failure Don't take rejection personally Pursue your passions in life
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 05:05 AM
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Reading your post, I think I have come to the crux of the issue here, which is that what we consider as sources worth considering are not defined the same way. From what I can tell, you seem to have defined a source in a very narrow, specific way, and I think that that is clouding your ability to see and consider alternative advice. I don't think you understand what kind of advice and what kind of guidance people are looking for. Evidently I do not, so I guess I want more clarification. You are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 02:57 PM
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Not pre-emptively. Hell, I'm banned from two of those subreddits and I've never posted in them. If you think those are the right sources to get advice from, how, exactly, do you intend for me to get advice from them? Right, of course, first you have to post before you get banned, doesn't change the fact that TRP bans dissidents. Oh and if you're getting pre-emptively banned from places, your opinions probably aren't as universal or objective as TRP would lead you to believe. You're recommending …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 09:55 PM
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TRP of course would never ban somebody for having the wrong opinion. /s Movies/TV are not a good reflection of reality but they are the most common medium through which people in our society are taught social values. Just because Spongebob is a show about anthropomorphic sea creatures doesn't mean the values promoted by the show (friendship, integrity, honesty, etc) should be completely ignored because the delivery mechanism isn't 100% real. here is some sources that can help, and the further do…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 04:13 PM
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You're looking at a source right now. Me and thousands of other blues are saying day in and day out that TRP is wrong. We provide reasoning, we provide evidence, we share our own stories. You guys ignore it. Are we an academic source? No, but neither is TRP; the vast majority of info on TRP is curated by everyday people like you and I, or handed down from mano-sphere identified bloggers. The "science" used is heavily contested and often derived not from the tap, but from twice or even third-remo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:59 AM
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So you're just going to totally sidestep my answer then? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:34 AM
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So you're just going to totally sidestep my answer then? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/15 03:31 AM
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I'm talking about the snowbunny slayers in college. The ones white girls start rumors about for their huge cock and masculinity. Almost all women want what in their mind they think of as a "big" or "above average dick. Man which is it? All women, or just women that fit your pre-concieved stereotype? I still think that desegregation and changing social attitudes are far more likely causes, plus your theory doesn't explain the overall increase in long-term (i.e. not just ONS) of interracial relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 11:28 AM
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The whole "just be yourself"/"be nice to women" advice is advice that works only if you didn't need advice; if you do need advice, it tends to fail catastrophically TRP and PUA are the only alternatives that seem to be available Right here is where I disagree. Lots of people seem to falsely believe "be nice to women" means "do whatever they say all the time for any reason" i.e. be a door mat. If somebody is doing that then they can hardly be believed to be "being theirself" unless they themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 11:23 AM
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This is the kind of thing that someone who's never written code, plowed a field, or repaired an instrument would say. None of those are mechanical follow-the-steps deals. All of them are unpredictable, all of them require massive amounts of practice to get good at it. So what exactly makes you think dating is any different? Many people joining TRP are those who already tried that and are now staggering under the emotional weight of years - sometimes, decades - of rejection. At what point are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:42 PM
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I don't know who Mark Manson is. I suppose my question is why, as a reasonable adult, do you need to be told to avoid people who are manipulative, absuive, and narcissistic? Seems to me like any self-respecting person would automatically steer clear of people like that. Doesn't really require a whole website/ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:16 PM
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I'm not arguing that they exist. What I'm saying is what exactly does their existence prove? Your OP tries to claim that the trend in society towards increased interracial dating is because black men have large dicks, but then when confronted with other (more likely) explanations such as demographic changes or changing social attitudes, you back track and claim that it only applies to the girls who are going after men specifically because they have large dicks, which brings me to my point: what …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:11 PM
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Totally missed my point. If feminists literally don't care, and are even against giving men dating advice, then they should shut down their dating advice blogs for men. Rather than waste our time. If they were just honest with the representation of the movement, then we'd be annoyed for a while then simmer down and move elsewhere. This will be hard to grasp, but feminism is not about you. It doesn't exist to meet your every need, it doesn't have all the answers to your personal problems, and it …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 08:22 PM
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Okay I guess I should have been a bit more clear; All the skills you have listed are technical skills; when you read about them, you read about the technique and memorize it, and then perform it; things like writing code, ploughing a field, or repairing an instrument are all techniques that need to be executed in a specifically ordered way in order to work. Dating is not a technical skill, it's an interpersonal communication skill. You don't execute these skills in a specific way because it can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 08:08 PM
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Okay then I'll refer you to this: I mean, on one hand, I think that it's dishonest of you to arbitrarily narrow your 'sample' down to a specific group that already fits the belief you're arguing for and then try to claim that your belief is something of note. I mean, what exactly is your post? "Chicks who like black guys with big dicks like black guys with big dicks" another brilliant TRP truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 07:50 PM
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I'm assuming OP wasn't around 150 years ago to ask this dumbass question. I'm also assuming that he hasn't asked "feminists" questions about FGM in Sub Sahara or what happened to Pussy Riot in Russia before throwing out this gem but hey who's counting right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 07:48 PM
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Women create a movement for the liberation of women, and the first question (some) men can think to ask it? How will it help me fuck more women. Dating is something you do, not something you read about. Feminist blogs won't help you, but neither will TRP or PUA or any of that shit, because they're trying to universalize a non-universal experience; relationships are relatively unique. I'm sorry feminist blogs didn't help you get your dick wet, from one man to another. But don't throw out the baby…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:18 AM
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Hmmm I'm not even sure how to approach this one.... I mean, on one hand, I think that it's dishonest of you to arbitrarily narrow your 'sample' down to a specific group that already fits the belief you're arguing for and then try to claim that your belief is something of note. I mean, what exactly is your post? "Chicks who like black guys with big dicks like black guys with big dicks" another brilliant TRP truth. On the other hand, I also think that your idea of 'white college girls' seems to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 04:15 AM
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Neil Strauss made it pretty clear that "PuA" and other 'sexual strategies' won't actual lead the user to happiness, I'm not sure if that counts because the Game is older than TRP but I think that's a good starting point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:43 AM
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Pretty sure it's just a result of de-segregation and changing social attitudes. 3 generations ago it would be consider immoral for a white and a black to date, but that attitude has changed. How does your theory explain the increase in white/Asian, black women/white men, or Asian/black pairings? All those stats have also increased alongside Black men/white women dating
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:39 AM
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Nope, I just don't think it gets them significantly more girls than any other 'method' and therefore, lacks justification for the ideological baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:35 AM
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Sorry can you please phrase your question as a question, not a (super long) anecdote with a question mark at the end?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 03:34 AM
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Confirmation bias. A user who tries TRP and goes nowhere isn't going to post, obviously, because the theme of the sub is "thanks, trp" not "get fucked, trp". Also Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy, because there is no way of knowing how long/much TRP a user has used before hitting success. If a TRP gets rejected 99 times and laid 1, is that proof that TRP works, or proof that if you throw enough darts at a board, you'll eventually hit it? I don't think TRP are doomed to a sad life of celibacy and lonel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 11:10 PM
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Well, to start, I wouldn't ask, because I don't ask stupid questions. But were I to ask, I wouldn't really care what the answer was, neither would especially bother me or especially excite me. I really don't get the obsession with a girl's past sexual escapades. The vast majority of girls you have sex with will gasp actually have lived full lives before they met you, and for most girls (unless you're scoping out your local junior high) will probably have had sex partners before you. I don't thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 10:59 PM
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people like you Please, elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 04:02 AM
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I live in a city notorious for it's manosphere presence (Toronto). I'm young, I'm in the bar scene, etc. These people are people I have to deal with in real life. That's why I care. Belief doesn't exist in a vacuum; some kid reading this online is some dick I have to deal with at the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 08:45 PM
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Gotta love how OP is all over this thread but completely ignores this response
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:26 AM
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Political economy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:19 AM
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trying to highlight the bad logic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:47 AM
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Blue pill, if religious wars are so bad, why does Christianity do it? Blue pill, if bombing abortion clinics is so bad, why does Christianity do it? Blue pill, if lynching blacks is so bad, why does Christianity do it? Blue pill, if stoning gays is so bad, why does Christianity do it? Blue pill, if soliciting door to door is so bad, why does Christianity do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 08:11 PM
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Idk if this is a technically a fallacy, but TRP has a really poor understanding of how burden of proof functions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 01:00 PM
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It's cheaper than a movie
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:46 PM
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Except TRP makes constant claims to universality; a huge part of the philosophy is that the TRP depiction of reality is the "natural" one when it clearly isnt
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 12:10 PM
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I guess I find this funny, because despite all the chest puffing, you really are still plugged into the matrix. What if I told you that men become feminists for non-sexual reasons? What if I told you some men don't give a fuck at all about sex? What if I told you that very few men would agree on what a "HB10" looks like. What if I told you that your own perception of an HB10 is largely informed by mass media and your own cultural expectations. What if I told you that any secure individual probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 04:23 AM
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Male, Canadian I don't think either is okay in an ethical sense. The problem with this framework is that it is still putting your happiness in somebody else's hands; whether you throw a tantrum because woman aren't giving you time, or you change who you are so that they will, you're still making something external (somebody else) the source of your happiness. Somebody truly taking responsibility for their happiness would not especially care if they are attractive to the other sex or not, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 04:03 AM
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You know what? I'm not going to reply anything you bring forward as proof until you start linking these "examples". I'm guilty under feminist law? Great, lets see an example. Doe v. W&L? I want a link. You dentist example is flawed because medical professionals are required to inform their patients about what they're doing and the risks before they operate, and failure to do so could be considered negligence. He wouldn't be a criminal because negligence is a tort, not a crime, but that doesn't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 09:35 PM
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Off the top of my head; Fiction Authors: George Orwell, Tolkien, Hunter S Thompson, Brett Easton Ellis, Robert Kirkman, Allan Moore, H.P. Lovecraft, Jeff Lemire, Bryan Lee O'Malley Non-fiction/Academic: Romeo Dallaire, Karl Marx, Antonio Gramsci, Noam Chomsky, David Owen, Machaivelli, Michel Foucault, Judith Butler, Che Guevara Muscians: Porter Robinson, Kendrick Lamar, Cage the Elephant, Courtney Barnett, Gerrard Way, Jcole, Smashing Pumpkins...too many to name here Don't really have a preferen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 09:07 PM
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Hey look everybody, the Chinese minster of the environment said that MRI's cause vaginal cancer, what does PPD think of this? Basically about as valid. Scott Adams said some shit; cool, why should I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:56 PM
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I think it's a stretch to consider Dilbert part of a 'progressive cultural vanguard'; might as well call Garfield Marxist propaganda. Not that it matters because I don't believe being are artist inherently gives somebody's opinion weight. There's lots of hacks out there just feeding into the status quo. Artist like how? Like visual arts? Muscians?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 10:01 PM
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I didn't say they'd make you an expert, I said they'd give you a good start. I don't know they're right; I just think they're closer to being 'right' than some random hack. I included biology because this is PPD and I knew that if I said just sociology and gender studies nobody would even consider my point, which leads nicely into: The only way to learn a subject sufficiently to discuss it is to get a degree in it? I don't think that the only way to learn a subject is to get a degree in it. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:52 PM
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Its not automatically legally invalid, you have to be pretty intoxicated and make your case , it wont be assumed you are a victim. Also the person you wanted to sign with has to know your state, the courts will have due process and they will not have their lives destroyed . If you while drunk approach a drunk person and want to have sex with them, and its all fine and then later regret it, are they a rapist? Okay well if you want to get anal about process, the person in Roosh's example also auto…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:40 PM
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but bruh sentence splices are so fun
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:15 PM
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Okay? He can be the funniest funny writer in the history of the Sunday paper, that doesn't necessarily lend weight to his views on gender. Many consider Tupac to be the best rapper of all time; does that me we should accept his views on American-Chinese relations?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:13 PM
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Absolutely not an ad hominem; questioning somebody's credentials is 100% rational
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 09:10 PM
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My favourite part about Roosh is that he frames things up in a way that falls about under deeper scrunity. I saw women who, once feeling awkward, sad, or guilty for a sexual encounter they didn’t fully remember, call upon an authority figure to resolve the problem by locking up her previous night’s lover in prison or ejecting him from school. Emphasis mine; If I am intoxicated and sign a contract, it's not legally valid. That's the law and it's as simple as that; if I'm drunk to the point that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 04:23 AM
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And what if 1/10th of legal adults shit on library steps? Hell, what if 1/100 legal adults shit on the library steps? You'd consider throwing up a sign that says "please don't shit on the steps". And you want to talk about pulling your head out of you ass? The vast majority of rapes committed against both genders are committed by men. Focusing on one gender is called be pragmatic, in the same way that we don't send disability cheques to the able bodied. Open your eyes dude. The "why do we need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 03:43 AM
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A degree in sociology, psychology, or biology would be a good entrance point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 03:26 AM
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Still trying to figure out how you go from "this is a seminar where we tell both genders what is an isn't consent" to "all men are potential rapists" but hey keep projecting. I mean, I want to know why you have a problem with people being told in clear terms what consent is and how they can secure it, but I'm sure you have a valid and 100% not rapey reason
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:46 PM
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I'm sure the guy who writes a mediocre bit for the funnies is an expert on gender relations, in the same way that my retail job makes my opinions on theoretical physics relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:40 PM
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I'm going to just copy my response from the other thread, where another user claimed I didn't read the article: By attempting to teach men not to rape, what we have actually done is teach women not to care about being raped, not to protect themselves from easily preventable acts, and not to take responsibility for their actions (1). At the same time, we don’t hesitate to blame men for bad things that happen to them (if right now you walked into a dangerous ghetto and got robbed, you would be cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:35 PM
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Oh get real dude, it's way more in depth than "how not to stick my dick in unwilling people", and simplifying it down to that level is practically a straw man. Have you ever been to one of these seminars? I have. They talk about STDs, safe sex, define rape/sexual assault, types of consent (verbal/non-verbal), dispel common truisms ("no is yes, yes is anal"), discuss the aftermath of rape, talk about the legal process/shelters/etc, and a lot of other things. So I need a consultant to clearly defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 09:28 PM
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This is literally the same logic deployed by 9/11 truthers, etc. If you assume your position is true, and then deny/ignore any contradictions, you're not behaving critically at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:29 AM
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Why is it bad to object to women having consensual sex and the deciding it was rape afterwards But that isn't what Roosh's 'satire' is about. He basically says that a woman shouldn't go home with a man unless she's prepared for him to rape her. It has nothing to do with a woman changing her mind, and everything to do with him wanting to be able to just do whatever the fuck he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:15 AM
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What are the "consequences" of sleeping with somebody?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:06 AM
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How exactly is this a net gain for society? For women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 01:01 AM
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Here's my question: why do you see this orientation as a personal attack? Orientation often also includes an icebreaker; does this mean we're assuming all men are socially awkward and can't break their own ices? Orientation often also includes a tour of campus, does this mean we're assuming all men are incapable of finding their way around? It's just information, they're saying, openly and public, what constitutes consent and what doesn't, information that is probably useful given that that type…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 12:58 AM
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By attempting to teach men not to rape, what we have actually done is teach women not to care about being raped, not to protect themselves from easily preventable acts, and not to take responsibility for their actions (1). At the same time, we don’t hesitate to blame men for bad things that happen to them (if right now you walked into a dangerous ghetto and got robbed, you would be called an idiot and no one would say “teach ghetto kids not to steal”). It was obvious to me that the advice of our…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 09:38 PM
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I read Roosh's article. The basic premise is that rape is a net gain for society because it encourages women to be more fearful of men and "act responsibly" (which in the context of the article, is basically code for 'know their place'). So why do I think Roosh is advocating rape? because he openly is, in plain English, and you have to 'hamster' pretty hard to get any other reading out of the article. Onto points: First of all I want everyone to acknowledge that the very definition of rape has b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 05:07 AM
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Obviously people are only going to date the people they're most attracted to. But attraction is subjective. The "top 20%" of men will be widely different between women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 04:32 AM
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So whoever wrote this clearly hasn't done any reading
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:51 AM
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From Drake's From Time Landmarks to the 'muses that inspired the music/ When I could tell it was sincere without trying to prove it/ The one that I needed was Kourtney from Hooters on P Street/ I've always been feeling like she was the piece to complete me/ Now she engaged to be married, what's the rush on commitment?/ Know we were going through some shit, name a couple that isn’t/ Remember our talk in the parking lot at the Ritz/ Girl I felt we had it all planned out, guess I fucked up the visi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 01:10 AM
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More time studying means less time socializing; less time socializing means less time meeting/dating girls
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 12:57 AM
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How would you know she doesn't make you feel that way if you also don't know better? One or the other friend
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 01:13 AM
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So your hangup is that she's dated white guys then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 12:51 AM
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Does that matter? TRP likes to make a huge deal about 'divorce rape', which is a problem; a common thing tossed around is that "marriage is betting somebody half your stuff that you'll love them until you die". Which then raises the question: why on earth would anybody (especially a TRP) enter a marriage with somebody they weren't 100% on? If divorce is rape, then 'settling' into a marriage is asking for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 04:06 AM
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People who settle have some serious dependency problems imo. I think that any sane person would prefer to stay single over locking themselves into a relationship that they find sub-par. The person may not be "perfect" but settling shouldn't be giving up and entering a relationship you don't feel 100% about
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 09:55 PM
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I guess my question is where does your hang-up lie, exactly? Like, would you still be pissed if she dated a lot of indian guys and then settled down with you? Are you pissed that she's doing experimentation before meeting you at all? Or are you pissed specifically with the fact that she dated white guys in the past? Because honestly white men aren't significantly different than men of other races, except for maybe self-imposed cultural differences. There really isn't anything a white guy can bri…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 09:52 PM
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Capitalism isn't blind though. It's heavily biased in favour of those already possessing wealth/capital
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 09:41 PM
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Supply and demand; demand for feminist advocacy is higher than demand for 'manosphere' advocacy, ergo, more of it is produced/consumed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 09:10 PM
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Yeah but how it looks on your body is not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:35 PM
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From that thread: If a woman says something that confirms TRP then it gets put into the evidence pile and shoved into TBP faces. If a woman says something that goes against TRP than it gets put into the trash pile. You can't trust what women say! Look at their actions! They are hamstering. BAHHHHHHH!!! This is why Bloops are constantly telling you your examples suck. TRP suffers from some seriously bad confirmation bias, and it really clouds your guys' ability to make judgements. For example, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:35 AM
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so maybe the pornaholics of this generation should seek out gay men if putting it in the pooper is their ultimate goal. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohh kill emmm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:16 AM
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I think most cases of ED that you need meds for are in the medical category (person getting older, result of long-term drinking/drug use, low blood pressure, etc) I think the case of a typically virile guy not being able to pop a boner fall into 3 categories (or such has been my experience): Whiskey dick - hopefully this doesn't need explanation Not in the mood/already JO'd/ had sex too many times that day/etc -basically, to quote Brad Pit, "I get fucked out" Anxious/Bad feeling/She's not that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 04:13 AM
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250 in muscle is heavier than 190 in fat, but is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 03:55 AM
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What do you do for fun? How are the people you chill with? What do you study? Where do you live (like countryside, city, suburbs, etc)? What initially attracted you to your last gf? Why prostitutes (scratching the itch?)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 03:54 AM
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I'm no "attacking" the golden rule. Don't be so dramatic. In the context of a debate, attacking is another term for trying to refute a premise The golden rule wont get you a job or a girlfriend. It's not supposed to. It's supposed to be something you do at all times, in exchange, it opens lots of different doors. If you're a total jackass to 98% of people you meet, and then suddenly try to be empathetic with a girl you find cute, it's not going to work, it'll come off as false. The golden rule i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 09:39 PM
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Eh it's more like, "so you dislike a movement fundamentally dedicated to the advancement of worker's rights, that is also pretty much the only serious actor moving towards workers rights, that also pioneered the vast majority of political thought around workers rights and fought all the battles to bring them from 'thought' to 'policy'? Why are you against worker's rights?" Good try though. Oh and for the record, as any communist would tell you, socialism with the end goal of communism is the onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 09:08 PM
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I'm just going to repeat what I said, and then break it down for you, just so that we're on the same page, because clearly, we aren't yet. "What do you mean your hungry? There's a perfectly good hotdog on the floor over there" Or, to help you translate it, there is a difference between fucking somebody, and fucking somebody that meets your standard. Some fat chick on altnet is fucking around a lot, cool story, doesn't say much until we see some pictures of the dude(s). I personally don't believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 08:59 PM
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2.5 years; dealt with "high T" by jacking it like a normal human, I did experience sexual frustration but it never became hatred, self loathing or regret. I fortunately was able to realize pretty quickly in life that getting laid is not the be-all-end-all and stopped basing my self worth off of my number and that made it way easier
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 05:30 PM
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As a woman, you can get laid easily on your own. "What do you mean your hungry? There's a perfectly good hotdog on the floor over there"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 05:25 PM
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I think you're projecting. If you see the advancement of rights for women as zero-sum and 'guilt-tripping', and fail to see the value of having an equitable society, than you need to take a long, hard look at your life and what ethics define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 05:22 PM
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Ironically, this post is why our society needs feminism. A huge movement of women bands together to tackle women's issues ranging from domestic violence to the wage gap, and the only thing you can think to ask them? "If I sign up, will women blow me?" Feminism won't get you laid. Nor will socialism, or nazism, or anything that ends with an -ism. They're modes of thought, not pick-up lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 05:18 PM
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Only on PPD could somebody seriously attack the Golden Rule. This is, in a nutshell, what people are talking about when they say TRP completely fails to understand empathy. The Golden Rule is really simple: If I was person A, how would I want to be treated? Kindly/with respect/whatever. So I'll treat person A kindly/with respect/whatever. Treat others the way you want to be treated. It's really simple and it scares me that you don't understand this basic, 1st grade-tier empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 05:11 PM
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There is no guide. There is no need for a guide. The day you stop seeing fulfilment, relationships, and workplace success as something in the future that you're chasing, rather than something you're living through right now, you'll be happier. Something I see on TRP as well as everyday life is that people are always "one thing" away from being happy. When they're fit, they'll be happy. When they have that hot girlfriend, they'll be happy. When they get that promotion, that new house, that new ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:57 PM
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The problem isn't with specific techniques; the problem is that your trying to formalize something that can't and shouldn't be formalized. Human relationships, whether friendship, ons, dating, whatever, develop organically, and are unique; PuA is trying to essentially create a one-size-fits all method for developing things that fundamentally can't be one-size-fits-all, and the end result is that it just comes off as inauthentic and forced, two features of an unhealthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:46 PM
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Humans can learn Research on feral children has shown that after a certain age, it's basically impossible for a non-socialized child to learn a first language, which is basically the #1 survival skills possessed by humans as well as the basis of all society. This alone shows that a huge part of our identity as humans isn't innate, but rather something socially conditioned into us by other humans. Learning, more than anything else, sets us apart from other animals; we can consciously train oursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:37 PM
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Idk man maybe we've just had two different experiences but everybody I know is either hard single or in a committed relationship. I know there's a lot of talk about poly stuff on the blogsphere but that's just because articles about normal everyday people don't push page views.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:21 PM
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In no particular order; My "sexual strategy" (which is really not an accurate way of describing it; there is no conscious 'plan' or whatever that I follow but I digress) operates at a different level than my feminist views. My feminist views are a value set I hold and try to live by, while my "sexual strategy" is just a series of actions I perform with specific people in my life occasionally. What this means in practise is that my sexual strat. is not dependent on my feminist views, but rather s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 01:03 PM
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Where do sex-negative feminists fit into this view?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 01:02 PM
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Dude and his wife have something that works for them, bravo. I disagree with his conclusion that you have to be polygamous to be a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 09:28 PM
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What exactly is your point? That if a woman met the perfect person for a one night stand, save for one ideological difference that probably won't even become apparent during said one night stand, they would have a one night stand with that person? Well, tell you what; if you are literally the perfect person for somebody, then yes, that person will find you attractive. That doesn't really prove shit. If you're reading TRP, it's because you aren't that perfect person, and you think TRP will get yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 09:19 PM
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Yeah, within reason. I mean I wouldn't date a girl that was 300lbs or something ridiculous like that, but a little larger than me? Sure why not. Out of the people I've dated, about 25% have been larger, 25% have been about the same size, and 50% have been smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 06:21 PM
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From a legal standpoint, an adult can date an 18yo no issue. From a pragmatic standpoint, why would you want to? Aside from the ability to fuck somebody with the "ideal" body (which isn't even guaranteed; plenty of 18yos are less than ideal) what exactly is the appeal? The common ground between an 18yo and a 40yo is narrow, if any exists. The whole idea, of an older guy looking at an 18yo and being like "oh yeah that's definitely somebody I want to spend time with" says to me 3 things. Either th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 05:57 PM
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This is absolutely ridiculous. What's your reading of slasher films? That most people want to be brutally murdered? They we have the desire to be chased by a psycho with a knife and gutted? How do you explain the popularity of the Saw series? Do people have a desire to be put in no-win torture situations? Even though I've said it like a dozen times already, what people want as a fantasy is not a direct analog for what they want in reality. You're little conclusion, that fantasy implies desire, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 05:12 PM
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First things first, I do have a brother, and we're quite close. Second, I feel quite confident in saying that not every boy wants to go to war, seeing as how I'm a man and do not want to go to war. Third, and I feel like a fucking broken record because I have said this at least 5 times in this thread, but as I said to at least a few other people, The same could be said of female erotica. I'm not going to deny that many women are probably turned on by the idea of being dominated, for example, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 09:43 PM
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I clearly state in my first line that I disagree with the Red and Blue approach, then I explained why, then I offered (my) alternatives. I know that the thread wasn't an advice thread but I knew if I just went "well TRP is wrong too" or "yup they're both retarded" I would have had at least two comments going "hurr durr you don't know what your talking about" Oh and I don't really care that OP claims to be a feminist. I can declare myself king of Spain, doesn't mean that my will is law
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 09:21 PM
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Oh no I believe you; I'm saying things like "logic" and "critical thinking" tend to go over some heads here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 09:19 PM
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Occam's razor Yeahhhhh good luck with that here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:36 AM
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One of the few threads where I disagree with the bluepill opinion in question (don't get excited, I also disagree with the redpill opinion here too). Both people in this example are making a fundamental mistake: their placing the blame on the partner for the relationship problem, when the relationship problem is within themselves. Let me explain (for the love of christ, read the whole thing before replying; I know sometimes thoughts that are longer than a sentence are hard to process for some pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:07 AM
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Don't put me in a box. I'm nihilistic as they come; I also, however, don't believe that nihilist = selfish inherently; if anything, I think a true nihilist wouldn't see value in being altruistic or selfish, but rather would use both throughout their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 12:15 AM
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and my comment was in response to OP, who is falsely comparing fantasy to reality. Which is also what you're doing, in a different way. But here in the most popular erotica with women are anti blue pill tropes. Sure. But that doesn't really mean anything. Just because something is popular as a fantasy doesn't necessarily mean it's something people want to experience in reality. Know what's infinitely more popular than erotica (across both genders)? Slasher films. Does that mean people actually w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 11:40 PM
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Yeah my original point was in response to OP though. Question for blue pill...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 11:31 PM
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Part of my response to another comment The same could be said of female erotica. I'm not going to deny that many women are probably turned on by the idea of being dominated, for example, because it's probably true; go to any askreddit thread listing sexual fantasies/fetishes and you'll have hundreds of women discussing their little rape/rough sex/s&m fetish. But these are just fantasies, and just because somebody wants to engage the fantasy via lit, doesn't necessarily mean they would actually w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:56 PM
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Just going to ctrl-v my response to someone else The same could be said of female erotica. I'm not going to deny that many women are probably turned on by the idea of being dominated, for example, because it's probably true; go to any askreddit thread listing sexual fantasies/fetishes and you'll have hundreds of women discussing their little rape/rough sex/s&m fetish. But these are just fantasies, and just because somebody wants to engage the fantasy via lit, doesn't necessarily mean they would …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:48 PM
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Not at all what I said. from a different reply: The same could be said of female erotica. I'm not going to deny that many women are probably turned on by the idea of being dominated, for example, because it's probably true; go to any askreddit thread listing sexual fantasies/fetishes and you'll have hundreds of women discussing their little rape/rough sex/s&m fetish. But these are just fantasies, and just because somebody wants to engage the fantasy via lit, doesn't necessarily mean they would a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:39 PM
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My point stands; MMF, cuckolding, fisting, male sub, etc etc are all far more popular as porn than as real life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:37 PM
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Chances are, if you look at what arouses a man, it won't deviate THAT MUCH from what the average man gets aroused by. Why can't we say the same about what gets women aroused? This isn't what I'm saying. I'm saying that there is a difference between enjoying something as a fantasy, and enjoying something as a reality. Paintball is arguably a better example than MW, because it's incredibly close to real war; defined fighting units, set objectives, limited ammo, and (most games) getting shot = "dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:31 PM
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It's fiction? This is like saying all men secretly want to be in a warzone, because Modern Warfare is a top seller. I can play modern warfare, and enjoy it, without wanting to be in a gunfight in real life; fictional gunfights are exciting and engaging; real life gunfights are probably terrifying and scaring. Horror movies are another example; I like movies where a ghost terrorizes people. Would I ever want to be terrorized by a ghost in real life? No. Engaging something as fiction is completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:35 AM
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Exactly. The movie is pretty self aware; the whole plot is about how these three (for lack of a better term) loser are trying to get laid. Like Jonah Hill spends a solid ten minutes at the start of the film repeating how he's never gone past a blow job and that it is imperative for him to get laid before school lets up, a point he (drunkly) repeats to Emma Stone's face later in the movie
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:18 PM
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Why would you want to? 99% of 18 year olds are retarded and/or look like children. Sure maybe some are insufferable but TRP doesn't believe in unicorns right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 12:11 AM
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I think you're underselling Superbad like a motherfucker. Jonah Hill specifically states early in the movie that Emma Stone's character wasn't considered hot for most of highschool and hadn't yet realized that she had left the awkward stage. It's made pretty clear that Michael Cera and his girl had a history and she had been crushing on him and was waiting on him to make a movie, and the girl McLovin gets with was incredibly dumb (she actually believed he was 25, named McLovin, a badass etc) and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 11:32 PM
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Can I get a summed up version?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 06:24 PM
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How does chastity=honour?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 09:37 PM
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Too subjective to hold any useful insight. I'm going to assume that all field reports are "true" and not just blatant lies (though, for the record, some of them are definitely blatant lies). The problem is that even the "true" ones are still incredibly one-sided. For starts, we have the problem of an unreliable narrator. The field report may say that the situation went by the book, but did it actually? Or is the narrator just drawing lines where none exist? Was that a shit test, or a genuine que…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 09:29 PM
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Attractive is a subjective quality, ergo, this advice is pretty useless
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 09:11 PM
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There is no "right" or "wrong" time. There's better and worse, but no 100% yes or 100% no. Better context would be in social situations such as bars, clubs, parties, classes, etc etc. Worse would be in non social situations, such as walking down the street, a quiet library, the women's restroom, etc. But with that said, there's so many exceptions that it's basically useless to divide them like that. Sometimes, you can approach people on the subway, or in a quiet library, or whatever. And sometim…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 09:09 PM
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Depends. If the only only dates women coincidentally, then no. If he specifically targets Asian women (turning down women of other races etc), specifically because they're Asian, then yes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:22 AM
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Is it though? TRP is a holistic theory. If TRP is proved by actors dating down, then we should also have a similar number of actresses dating up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:43 PM
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My question is where are all the middle aged-actresses dating seniors?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 11:39 PM
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Some is common knowledge, such as improving your look, genuine confidence, flirting/teasing, etc Others is manipulative, such as looking at things as shit tests, overcoming lmr, or dread game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 03:02 AM
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Don't put anybody on a pedestal. Give people the admiration/respect you feel they have earned from you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 03:00 AM
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Sound's healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 01:19 AM
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Redpill: totally not misogynist. 100% about self improvement. No rape apologia in sight. 100% compatible with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:33 PM
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Well because your experience is non-universal (plenty of men have no problems with the friendzone etc) and, more importantly, because TRP doesn't have a monopoly on solutions to these problems. I was the poster child you described (friendzone, be yourself, etc) but I'm not TRP today. Just because you sucked with girls in freshman year doesn't mean you need to download this whole ideology to 'fix yourself'. You can flirt without being a jerk, you can be friends with somebody without wanting to fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:19 PM
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Doesn't this defeat the whole point of the self improvement deal? It's not like being able to bench 200lbs will secure you a better arranged marraige
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 04:05 PM
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Do you believe that women should be controlled for the good of the society ? Leading question; I don't believe controlling (whatever that means) women will be for the good of society. Would removing them from the workforce and schools solve our problems ? No? How many families can survive on a single wage these days? How many of our top professionals are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 03:52 PM
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This is kind of what the dude is saying though. You're just moving the goal posts on him. I mean I didn't get a mad vibe at all from this, but that's aside the point. He lays out pretty clearly what he doesn't like about TRP, where it falls short, and alternatives that worked well for him, and you write him off as "angry" and "internalizing" the pill, as though TRP is some ultimate truth and any success is a factor of accepting the pill to some extent. I mean it's just not honest at all and is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 05:56 PM
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I think a lot of stuff that happens in porn between people who know each other through a third party (ie. hooking up with your girlfriend's stepmom, banging your best friend's wife, etc) wouldn't be nearly as good in real life due to the fallout. I also think a lot of the wife swapping or swinging stuff, while interesting in porn, probably isn't that great in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 05:47 PM
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check out my other reply to that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 05:43 PM
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Yeah my complaint is that with a claim that wide is basically useless because there are too many exceptions. How does this explain emotions experienced by post-menopausal women? How does this explain gays and lesbians? How does this explain a man killing his spouse in a crime of passion? How does this explain child molestation or prison rape? etc etc Now sure, we can say "well all those examples are just people that are getting bread out of the gene pool" but that just raises more questions. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 05:25 PM
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So wait, depression is an emotion or an imbalance? And yes, behaviour is driven by emotion. However, I disagree that all behaviour is done with the ultimate goal of reproduction. For example, women post-menopause still experience emotions such as (non-platonic love), horniness, etc. How does this fit into your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 05:15 PM
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The epitome of the masculine character is confidence. To know yourself, know what you want, and be willing and able to act in a way that achieves what you want. Being a nice guy, being an asshole, neither helps you; they simply streamline you towards different people. It's confidence, more than any other trait, that helps a man come off as attractive. 'Emulating' those around you is the exact opposite of confidence. You no longer know yourself, but rather, construct yourself based on a (distorte…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 05:09 PM
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Emotions are simply incentives to behave in ways that benefit our genes, and the genes of the human race. Are they though? There are lots of emotions that don't benefit the propagation of the gene; depression, for example, makes somebody less likely to have sex, not more. My big problem with evopsych is that it is way too convenient given how many assumptions it is based on. Saying that emotions are "simply incentives to behave in a way that benefits our genes" is a huge claim; that can describe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 03:51 PM
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