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RIP for my slapping brothers! Jokes aside, this reminded me of the time a woman asked me to punch her in the face during sex. Safe to say, I was taken aback lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:01 AM
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Hate is a strong word. I think if they trully want to have it, most are certainly able but they better be ready to start socializing a fuck ton AND get used to rejection. I'm not sure most of you guys can do this tbh... not because you are not attractive enough from a looks perspective. But because you are not mentally rezilient enough. So you better get to work, practice flirting, bantering and escalation, learn as you go, take "defeats" as educative opportunities and get fucking used to a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:24 PM
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Even if I had a ton of sex before him though I dont see why that would matter Of course it would matter. Not so much the number but the consistency of it. or how he would know. Incredibly easy to find out, you just talk with a woman/man and you can definitely estimate with enough accuracy. Hell, they will even offer this info on a silver platter of you know how to entertain the subject. If I am in a relationship with him then my past relationships shouldn't matter just like his shouldn't. Of cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:11 PM
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It's only a problem when there is no consistency I think. For example, and excuse me if this is too personal, but did you make previous partners wait less than 6 months? Or have has casual sex/hookups/ONS, stuff like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:23 PM
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Your own advise was spot on btw. Morality is irrelevant in attraction, at least in the early stages. Looks get you in the door, the ability to flirt, banter, escalate and built sexual tension actually get you into her bed. Coupled that with confidence, assertiveness and comtepetence.... that is how you remain in that bed. Notice morality had nothing to to with it? And no one of this quality is "bad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:49 PM
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That's what gets me man... these women (and men tbh) around these parts are weird.... like "no money would be enough to even consider dating" weird. Their beliefs are totally fringe, borderline feminist lefty ANTIFA type shit and they think they're normal 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:17 PM
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Most couples people have sex early in the relationships, within the first 3 dates specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:29 PM
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Interesting response. Would you say you were always lile this? Like only prefering sex in commited relationships with an emotional connection. Or have you tried casual sex/hookups, found out it wasn't for you and thus acted accordingly (waiting for a connection)?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 01:25 PM
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But if I was someone into quick sex and this person had a FWB on the side and wasn't gonna fuck me, I'd nope out of that. This is exactly where I stand myself!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:22 PM
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Yeah I can imagine in that situation, you probably needed to let off some steam. Completely valid take.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:18 PM
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So basically casual sex is not something you endorse at all. Have you every tried it before? Or your dislike for it has been there from the start?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:27 AM
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This has been the perfect approach to me also. I'm a bit more flexible in the sense that my rule is 3 dates... but in 98% of the cases, we fuck on either the first or the second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:12 AM
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So basically you are ok with quick sex in dating but you are not ok with that person also having a fwb on the side. Seems reasonable as fuck and tbh, I'm the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:08 AM
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I have a three date rule so no, I would definitely not continue seeing her regardless if she had a fwb on the side. I ain't waiting and frankly I'm yet to be put into this situation irl. And if I was, I would not bitch and moan or any crap like that. I would simply wish her a happy life and that's it. For both of us, the vetting would have worked as intended in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:03 AM
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Many guys don't know how to fuck even if they had multiple partners tbf. The stories I heard from some of my exes regarding their past experiences... Jesus wept.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:16 AM
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That's probably the main reason a woman may or may not be more sexually open with a guy than with another. Now incels will ask why did she marry a judgemental guy then (in the beta bucks case that's used as the common example around here). Well the answer is simple: she saw other parts of him that she liked besided his sexiness and fell in love with him regardless. It's pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:40 AM
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Because he may or may not have fucked? Do you try to be obtuse or it's part of your actual personality/character?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:06 PM
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It tells you only what you want to hear though. It's very good for mirroring once emotions but not much else. Real long term growth is only possible if you do it yourself. Alone. It's a one person trip and sure, you might get encouragements from people close to you but, at the end of the day, it's you yourself and the road ahead and what you want to achieve/resolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 01:04 PM
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the demographic most likely to engage in hookups as a whole, with about 70% of the group stating that they do - only 7-18% do it on a monthly basis. I've found an even better statistic that proves your point even further. In the 70% of hookups, the term is used loosely. Meaning that hookups didn't neceassarily mean penetrative intercourse (aka sex), but kissing, touching, making out or heavy petting etc etc. Looking at the studies that do mention actual sexual intercourse as being part of a hook…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:59 AM
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It says right there. "Visibly bigger than my other partners". Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:17 PM
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I think people are overthinking a lot of unnecessary shit and waste time. This is a prime example. Who gives a shit about any of this? Who thinks stupid crap like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:10 PM
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Fuck are you talking about. Half the women I ever interacted with, both irl and online say they prefer men with beards. What anti beard agenda? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:13 PM
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I mean, he could just not wait and stop seeing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:30 AM
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Except red pill has been pushing the 80/20 rule for over a decade. If you don't personally believe it, great, that doesn't change the fact it is still the cornerstone of red pill arguments. I believe it's only true in regards to casual sex. When it comes to relationships it's totally irrational to believe it as most men and women are in relationships, especially after let's say, mid 20's or so. It has a kernel of truth but it's widely misconstrued. And I'm sure Republicans from 70 years ago woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:29 AM
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Yes we are indeed playing it because it is incredibly relevant to the shift in opinions happening on this spaces. To not take it into account would be a mistake. The red pill from a decade ago would make fun of the losers from this sub. Rightfully so. As for the islamic bit, it's pretty simple: their obsession with virginity. Most western men don't give a shit about that. Yes, including the red pillers you so vehemently hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:36 PM
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A lot of it is "feel good" advice. If you follow it, you will not improve anything that will lead to dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:29 PM
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The 80/20 rule is a core red pill theme Incel theme more likely. Red Pill nowadays has been invaded by incels and islamic grifters from non western countries. I would say the 80/20 rule is only true for casual sex. After all, only a minority of guys can regularly have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:14 PM
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Well, what ages are we talking here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:07 PM
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What a retard. He should have done it without telling her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:38 PM
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But who said he is bad at sex? Maybe they have a perfectly satisfactory sex life. Considering she didn't even mention having a good sex life when she supposedly listed the good parts of her husband, I will assume the sex is shit. Or if I'm generous, shit when compared to her best. Who is even saying she's not attracted to him? He could literally be better looking than the other dude. She never mentioned once he is hot. When a woman finds her husband/bf hot, she states it. Especially on an anonym…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:35 PM
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Do you feel the same about men who fuck sluts in their youth, "sowing their wild oates" or whatever, and then find a nice wife material woman to cherish and love and have children with? There is literally a saying "can't turn a hoe into a housewife". Can't speak for others but yes, I feel the same way. Because this strategy is retarded (aka when the sex is shit it tends to override the other good parts of the relationship) and it's basically virtue signaling using people you're not attracted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:25 PM
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I fully understand the context now. And yeah, this type of thing doea happen. But it's not developing attraction from nothing. The guy did pass the looks threshold, and became attractive thanks to his flirting and escalation and personality. Good for him!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:55 PM
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Well it seems the guy played his hand very well so cheers to him. But it’s not like I thought he was gross looking, I just didn’t see him in any kind of sexual context until he made it very clear that he saw me that way. I mean the whole drive to the club he was talking about how much he still loved his shithead ex boyfriend. So basically he was a "maybe" that turned into a "yes" thanks to his personality. It is quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:53 PM
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but a lot of guys wouldz, until your a woman and have been judged for having sex early you don’t get to judge women for protecting themselves. Would you even want to commit with a man that would judge you based on this? But what u meant was early sex can ruin things early even if you aren’t judged by the guy as it can cause it to fizzle earlier for various reasons, poor performance, artificial closeness from sex, loss of interest etc. Poor performance would mean we are not sexually compatible th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:58 PM
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Because you're not attractive for just sex. And being attractive is a combination of looks and personality. Aparently, your mixture sucks for getting casual sex. If you want me to guess, judging by your threads, you probably come across as too neurotic and socially awkward. And my dude, those are killers when it comes to casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:00 PM
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In most healthy relationships, regular sex is a given, but it's a small part of the relationship. Well, you know what they say: when the sex is fine, it's 10% of a relationship. When it's bad, it's 80%. So knowing the overall impact sex has, it's absolutely a vital part of the relationahip. Guys that know that and have options absolutely do care about being with a woman that's funny, smart and supportive. I agree but my statement above and this are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:37 PM
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I think he’s totally hot now, but it’s becuase I’m in love with him and wildly sexually attracted to him. Not the other way around. Also, can you expand on this? Just so I fully understand your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:01 AM
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I mean, I agree with you. I never said the guy should be a passive idiot who doesn't know how to talk to women, or know how to flirt and escalate. Those are skills he 100% should learn if he wants to fuck a woman in the first few dates. As for you and your boyfriend, I must admit, I have never heard anyone go from 0 attraction to hot. What I hear and have experienced myself is having someone go from a "maybe" to a "yes". But if I found someone totally unnatractive at first? Nah, they never becam…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:55 PM
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I know which Is why I mentioned both in my first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:49 PM
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Yes because I don't fuck women I'm not attracted to lol or who I don't find as attractive as others in the past. Doesn't mean they all looked the same, mind you. I don't have a "type". But abso-fucking-lutely, every woman I've ever fucked I was attracted to her. What would be the point otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:34 PM
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For example, when I was in my "Just enjoy sex. Who cares?" era, any guy I dated ("safe guy" or not) was getting the same energy. When I was in my "I want to vet for the long term" era, every guy I dated was getting the same energy, with bad boys being purposefully weeded out. The different treatmeant is what annoying to most guys on here. For example, if you've fucked a guy in your "just enjoy sex era" but you made another guy wait in you "vet for the long term era". That's the thing that gets t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:10 PM
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Do you have a link for the thread you mentioned? I'm pretty curious for the answers tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:54 PM
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I would be open if she asked as I see no reason to hide what I think in general. If she doesn't like it, well, she'll always know where the door is. Not my problem at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:28 PM
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Idk I don't spend time thinking what 14 years old are doing in a sexual context. Not my favorite subject but damn, perhaps I'm the weird one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 01:06 PM
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No it's nor confirmed apparently. The nature of the relationship is unknown.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:54 PM
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Why did you take the convo to 14 years old having anal sex? What spurred this on specifically? Seems out of left field and frankly weird that you kept insisting on this point. Is there a new statistic or smth or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:50 PM
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You came to me talking about 14 year olds watching porn, then when I told you I was uncomfortable talking about it, and then you pressed ahead and did that anyway. I just want to emphasize that I respectfully declined to engage in this thought experiment with you and you pressed ahead with it anyway. What's funny is this guy paints the whole "pressuring people" as bad.... while actively pressuring someone to talk about something they clearly stated makes them feel uncomfortable.... Wow. Just wow…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:48 PM
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I said it "didn't work out" I thought that in the context of the convo that you implied his simping didn't work out. if the poster's version events are true, he should've broken up with her right there on the spot. Agreed, fuck that bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:47 PM
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My ex Thank you for confirming that it ultimately didn't work out. Tbf that's not exactly simping. He tried to be decent and his ex was a fucking bitch. Good women generally hate simping but like good treatmeant from the men they are in relationships with. The example above was one of good treatmeant, not simping imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:35 PM
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People on this sub in general conflate mens' sexuality to womens' sexuality. They think women operate the same as a man when, in reality, the ways the two genders build attraction are totally different. That's the core of this black and white thinking, this fundamental misunderstanding on how womens' attraction really works. Best exemplified by your comment here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:40 PM
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I’ve found that many men will basically die on the hill of, “I should be allowed to watch porn, and any woman who expects me not to is controlling, denying my biology, and irrational.” Many men, especially online but irl as well, are stupid and don't know what's good or bad for them. Porn has basically no upsides to a mans life. None. It adds nothing. This constant attack of our pleasure centers has lead to a generalized dopamine addiction that's been carefully manufactured since our birth (talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:36 PM
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I’m addressing the practical implications of who attractive men actually sleep with. In reality most attractive men aren’t sexy crazed degenerates who are trying to sleep with 10 new women every day. Most are normal guys with normal lives and time constraints. The practical implications are impossible to know given that humans are individuals with their own different lives. What you do, is not what man B does etc. When are talking about attractive men, both in looks and personality, we are talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:37 PM
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And most men swipe on an attractive woman. My point is, men find way more women attractive than the reverse. It's common knowledge at this point as there is a clear difference between male and female sexuality. Obviously he can sleep with an average woman, but that requires him to forgo a night with an attractive woman. Most men don’t do that. And my point is, most men do find most average women attractive. Yes even the attractive men. They are not a different species and operate like most men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:50 PM
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Assuming he’s in a city, an attractive man always has attractive women readily available, between dating apps and social media. To sleep with an average looking woman, he has to choose her over readily available attractive options. The vast majority of attractive men don’t do that. Of course he has attractive women available. But that doesn't change the fact most women will swipe on him and from that pool, he can pick and choose. My point he can fuck both the average and the attractive options. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:46 AM
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personality is a major factor in that competition. Agreed, with the focus on charm, the ability to flirt and banter being the main factors that determine success in dating. Having a fun, confident, and assertive personality in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:33 AM
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She’s gotta get instant lusty vaginal tingles and always want to fuck on command, simultaneously have no history of giving that treatment That would be ideal yes 🤣 simultaneously have no history of giving that treatment to any other man, I don't give a shit about that as long as I get what I want. I prefer women with a healthy sociosexuality and those tend not being virgins or very low n-count and she needs to fit into his favorite porn category. Only the pornbrained incels on this sub do this. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:31 AM
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You are conflating casual sex to relationships. I agree, wherever league you are currently fighting sucess is where your level is. What the above poster is saying though is that regular casual sex is only achievable by a minority of men. Those have both the looks and personality condusive to that. I always say the 80/20 rule is only true for casual sex after all, not relationships. Well, some women (not all) fuck up and think the men they can fuck casually are their league. When we all know men …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:25 AM
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Sure, but the same is true for men. But most men don't have the options of sleeping with those attractive women. Women, on the other hand, can sleep with those attractive men. The 80/20 rule is not true for relationships, but it is certainly true for casual sex. That's just makes sense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:13 AM
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Combo of hookups and ltrs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:45 AM
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I can agree with this, yes. Thinking back of my own experiences, the easiest path was through friends of friends... that way you are already pre-vetted in a way. Especially when I was still in college. The common college parties were also a very good setting to introduce yourself to women... after all, a lot of hookups are also between two drunk coeds 😂 Alcohol is veeeery underrated by the incels on this sub. Though dating apps haven't been bad to me either and I must say, apps and hobbies have …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:24 PM
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You know what's weird about that? Men outnumber women vastly on dating apps. The number of men on dating apps looking for hookups vastly outnumbers women on apps. True, yes? Yup, that's correct. I always believed the "80/20 rule" (or any variation of the theory that a majority of women find a minority of men attractive) is only true for casual sex. When it comes to relationships, average and bellowe average guys have a much much higher chance of finding a woman... because there are more factors …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:52 PM
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We don't have that in Europe, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:21 AM
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Finally some fucking nuance here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:13 AM
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Because some men can. Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:07 AM
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Entitlement refers to feeling like you need x,y,z from someone else's body. I don't care what your reasons are it's entitlement. By this token you are act entitled too. You want a man who doesn't value sex as you do. You go for it because you feel entitled to that man. Otherwise, you would accept any dickhead as a husband. Following your own definition: you need a man to believe the things you want in order to be in a relationship with you. It's the same principle. Stop trying to moralise having…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:09 PM
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See when I'm in a relationship my benchmark is me Am I happy. And I being treated the way I want to be. If a man wants to benchmark this on Chad or sex then that's on him. My benchmark is on me too! If I found out she was more passionate with an ex, well that makes me unhappy and unfulfilled, therefore I break up with her. The benchmark is still on me. What I want, is total devotion. I want it, I can get it, I will get it, even if that woman is a different one than the one I'm currently seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:01 PM
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So let's say somehow that it's true that this woman gives out "less" in terms of sex to her partner than she did to some fling 30 years ago Hw should break up in this case be more discerning with his own needs going forward. You are not entitled to the same thing. No one is. Sex is a mutual act. You start acting entitled that's on you. Exactly. So he should just dump her and go find what he wants. You're allowed to have feelings about it, but personally if you think "better treatment" is about s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:58 PM
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That's why practice makes perfect!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:46 PM
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Or how about just vetting for women who want to do the same things you want? It's really not rocket science dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:29 PM
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Shhh are you implying women do not actually have that third sense they always make a such a fuss about? That they "know" when you're this and that and bla bla bla?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:23 PM
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You used far more eloqeunt words to describe exactly what I was trying to say in this thread. This, right here, is the response that should be at the top. Absolutely agree with everything you just said. Being a simpy loser who "befriends" (let's be honest, it's not a real friendship) in hope of getting crumbs of pussy is totally inneficient, weird and the mark of social ineptitude. Learning to flirt, banter, and finding the balls to state your intentions clearly, assertively while also accepting…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:12 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:01 PM
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You want him to remain sexless lmao 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:59 PM
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"Judas"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:59 PM
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It's about common decency. If I was rich I wouldn't talk about the new car I just bought to my friend who cannot afford rent. Fuck sake, seems like your friends are only usefull of they aren't an inconvenience or have boundaries. With friends like you, who enemies fuck sake 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:56 PM
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Men have the options not to be mewling simps in hopes for crumbs of pussy. Also, friendships are a two way street. If you feel like your friend doesn't care about you as you do for them, drop them. All of this is called "self esteem". The pussies you're describing should learn that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:46 PM
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Bro, Jude is just a simp, a "nice guy" who didn't get the memo that "befriending" a girl he actually wants to fuck is the most retarded strategy ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:42 PM
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I mean tbh he can do whatever he wants. In a way, by internalizing that all relationships end, you yourself devalued them it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:40 AM
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Women let it die a long while ago buddy. Most earn as much as men. From the 80's onwards it's no secret attractive fun guys slayed. The only expectation women have financially wise is for a guy to have a fucking job, pay his own bills, support himself and have a general plan for the future (and when I say "general", I really mean it, you don't have to think much about this shit).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:05 PM
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I think OP is Indian. Make of that what you will
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:40 PM
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Dude..... you need serious help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:26 PM
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Mentall illness. That's what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:24 PM
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You need mighty therapy dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:22 PM
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People like each other for reasons other than looks and money Especially money. When will this notion that a man needs to be a provider dies?!?! It's not been relevant in more than 50 years ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:13 PM
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How an individual values relationships is up to them. If however they choose not to value relationships to the degree they avoid them out of fear? Of the relationship ending? Speaks volumes. Amazing comment but can you expand on this? It just feels like you left on a cliffhanger 🤣 What volumes does such an approach speak?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:11 PM
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I will preface this by saying that understand perfectly all your other points btw and agree with you. Kink without consent is not real, it'a abuse. It's clear OP doesn't have a clue what's he's talking about and is confused. Now though, when it comes to Cucking specifically... I think many that partake in it are totally unhealthy porn brained fucks that use their wives as their kink dispensers. Sort of what you are alluding to: aka kinks done without consent, by pressuring the wives and not taki…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:48 PM
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I think when it comes to cuking there are more things at play than just straight up role playing... After all, it is quite hummiliating asking your wife to get fucked by another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:34 PM
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If she's currently choosing me over (n) number of other experiences, then Dick(me) > Dick(OtherDude)*(n) Meh here it's a little bit of wishful thinking as well. After all, she might chose you for reasons other than sex. With the rest, I fully agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:48 PM
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I could not care what you think or find attractive I mean, he doesn't seem to care either. Tbh not many people care in general what others find attractive, they're just concerned with getting what they want. I’d never in a million years dream to ever date someone who speaks or thinks like you How do you you know how someone thinks? He can not air this info out to you because most women lose their shit over this (it's common knowledge at this point). Soooo he just hides this particular view and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:02 PM
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I argued the conent of the analogy. Jesus Christ and you call me brainrotted? 😂 You might want to look in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 09:22 PM
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Your reverse analogy is totally retarded, the fisherman still catches the fish. So you go an ask that guy that uses small fish, once you realize worms don't work as best as they could. Still you don't ask the fucking tuna 🤣🤣🤣 Now, leaving retardation asside, if I were to ever listen to any women advice on dating, I would still be a virgin. Blue pillers (both men and women) and incels advice are one and the same from a practical standpoint: totally shit and will not produce any success. Hopes tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:25 PM
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For someone who will get salty about having casual sex if they don't get a relationship afterwards, the best advice that can be given is for them to wait till they get the commitment first then start having sex. And still, if the sex is more important for one person than the other and, after waiting for it, finds out it's shit, they might still decide to cut things off because of sexual incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:20 PM
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The more I read shit like this the more I believe the "waiting for sex" strategy some women employ doesn't weed out fuckboys at all... just exposes them even more imo. After all, if a guy desperate for sex learns that they just have to wait for it a little bit... they will. And bounce as soon as they get it. Tragic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:15 PM
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I just think that being shy and socially awkward is a net negative in dating in all mediums, be it online or irl. It's just an unattractive quality in general, for both genders, but women are excused a little more by the circumstances: it's not expected of them to approach/make the first move so they "get away with it" in a way. Being introverted is not a death sentence and not the big problem imo (if we define "introvert" as someone who expands energy in social interaction). After all, PLENTY o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:50 PM
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I couldn't agree more with everything you've written. That's exactly why I mentioned thr importance of being perceived as "fun". Because even when a man isn't "hot" right away (as it happens in like 95% of first time interactions between a man and a woman), he can inspire lust through flirting and bartering and generally having a non serious, non commited and happy vibe. Dating apps are a literal scourge on dating imo and the fact that so many people use them as their primary way of meeting pote…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:27 PM
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Very few men are so incredibly attractive or perfect on paper that she immediately knows she’s interested in a sexual relationship, I agree with everything you said but I will only add a counterpoint here: some women are sometimes in the mood for a hookup or are at a point in their lives where casual sex makes sense so they will probably sleep with whoever they find hot and fun, without taking additional factors into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 12:48 PM
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Yet most have had it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:49 PM
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For women, it's easier to get casual sex than relationships. For men, it's the opposite. Not that difficult to have a gf but consistent casual sex? Only a minority of men can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:15 PM
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They never seem to understand this part. It's not that they don't understand. It's just doesn't seem to be worth the effort to reach it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:02 PM
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"All the time" is a generalization with no basis in reality... and not how the world works anyway. I agree, it does happen. But not all the time. Some do and some don't. Don't be obtuse and assume things one way or the other. The blue pill says no one ever settles (which is bullshit), while you say everyone settles (also bullshit). What are you basing this theory on? Do you know the story of every couple or did you already decide on a narrative that gives you leeway to whine all day? After all, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:35 PM
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Women are not attracted to men they don't respect. Food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:16 PM
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I might not like what they want Idk about other redpillers but I personally don't want a virgin bride. I just want someone who desires me and I have a specific way of gauging that. At the same time, I don't bitch about how women gauge the same thing, even if it contradicts my approach... it just means we wouldn't be compatible if we met irl. And that's fine and means the filtering is working as intended for the both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:13 PM
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I mean the constant whinning from the losers and the defensive attitudes of the nigh n-count people here. Constantly the same bunch of people btw. what is not insecure stance? Easy. For the incels: stop bitching and start doing. For the high n counts: own what you did and what you like and what you are. Aka, a horny person with unrestricted sociosexuality..... not a slut or a manwhore.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:11 PM
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It's either action or inaction. Go out there and maybe score or suck your own dick alone. The choice is easy imo. Your business what you do. But don't bitch when the women you like date other dudes that just put themselves out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:07 PM
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YOUNG women are dating the guys they find attractive and fun, trying to figure out what they want, which is why it's not serious. That includes what they want in a relationship, what they like in bed (both giving and receiving), and what kind of negative treatment they are/aren't willing to put up with because nobody's perfect. Dating casually is part of that self-discovery process. Some women become jaded when they're older, but that's a choice, just like romantically unsuccessful guys turning …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:52 AM
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While I also agree with your general message, I will have to correct you on one thing: this incels are not red pilled men. They are just whinny losers who don't have the courage to go after what they want and become the type of men that can actually achieve that. They are too lazy to enact change and, while they know the terms of the core concepts of red pill, they have 0 cluse what they actually mean. Everything is about looks and whinnig. They are black pilled to the core. Even in your example…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:53 AM
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What does that have to do with anything I said? Explain how "men are angry about it" refutes my point that people have different standards for different roles regardless of gender. Because in your original comment you were asking why men don't understand it. I explained why. They do understand... you just don't want to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:05 PM
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Mate I think this is a narrative you made out in your head. Sure, this shit happens. But not everytime. Thinking "husband material" is always bad or always good is just obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:25 AM
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How would I know if I want to LTR you after a first date? 😂 And there's no "should". What people "should" actually do is whatever the fuck they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:55 PM
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This thread is fucking awful lol. The insecurity is leaking through the screen (from both the incels and non incels btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:34 PM
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Hey dude! Yeah I'm a man. Basically what I'm saying is that most guys want to be "hookup material" first and only AFTER the woman gets to know him, to upgrade him to "husband material". Basically the "I want to spend the rest of my life with this man" to came some time after having sex.... not to be a condition to have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 09:18 PM
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Men here are angry if you made the "husband material" guy wait for sex while sleepig with the "hookup material" guy right away. That's pretty much the only thing that angers them. If, for example, a woman would fuck the husband material guy early (and thus proving she's just as attracted to him as the hookup guy) and she had all those additional standards she had... than nobody would bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 08:01 PM
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I do agree with this. But one of he best things to help them with this is not living with their parents since they will get an opportunity to live with peers who are presumably not incels and they'll get to watch and observe how their roommates/friends interact with women and the kinds of social lives they maintain. Friends play a key role in getting to meet more people and developing social skills. And you really don't see what people are like all the time nor pick up those kinds of skills when…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:36 PM
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Exactly! Like the party lifestyle definitely isn't sustainable once you have a job and out of college. The OP seems to believe everyone who doesn't party just as hard as they work post college to be lazy bums. Like her social circle represents the whole millenial generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:05 PM
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The point is, living at home puts significant dampers on a relationship. And if a woman is living in an apartment with a bunch of other women where they have all have rooms and privacy, spending 50% of the time at a guy's place with his parents constantly around is going to put a big damper on any budding relationship, or at the minimum the guy's ability to hook up if he's pursuing casual. I think you're under the impression women are more repomsible and independend than men are... they are not.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 04:02 PM
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Ok ok I'm not really one to defend lazy fucks but I will say you are greatly overestimate the.... 4-5 women that are on the thread? 😂😂😂 Also a few don't even agree with you. So, I let's be honest. Some people work hard and play hard, other don't. Or some only work hard, others only play hard.... just because your social circle was uber energetic and oh so amazing, doesn't mean everyone wants to work their ass off in their 20's. Individual choice, individual lives, individual perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:52 PM
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But did you also party your ass off as the OP suggested everyone was doing in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:42 PM
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So many men were blasting my observation that people use to stay up until 4 am and then get up the next day…as if staying up hanging partying and ordering pizza with your friends is not a reasonable trade off for sleep, esp at 25 As a gen z I will say, people do seem to be much less energetic in general compared to the previous gen. We either work hard or party hard.... not both at the same time from what I can see. But, this also may be a cultural difference as an European. You guys kinda take …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:36 PM
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I was fortunate enough to be able to move out quite soon out of my parents place... but that's that the thing.. I just got lucky as hell. Upper middle class family yada yada yada. Pure luck. So I get you, it's far more awesome to live alone. Thing is, the people less fortunate than me still dated around despite all the obstacles. You'd be surprised how much shit people can accept in order to bang. Now onto your points: Where are you going to kiss together? Not having a place requires you to do a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:13 PM
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IMO a big thing now is people choosing to live at home vs. living with multiple roommates. Nothing kills a social life AND a love life like living with parents, not having a pad, and not having a place to host. And for those who do want to party or host gatherings, it's infinitely cheaper to buy a few snacks and six packs, and asks guests to contribute, than it is to go out to bars/clubs. The additional rent pays for itself in social freedom. Meh this is also influenced by different cultures. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 01:56 AM
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This whole thread is nightmare fuel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:59 PM
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Some actually do. You'd be surprised. You don't have to be a thin model in order ti fuck as a woman. Now, as a man, in order to have casual sex.... well...... things are much more difficult. And I say this as a man who actually did have an easier time getting casual sex than those around me. It was pretty easy to see that I was in the minority. Good news is that girls seem a lot more open to serious relationships with less conventionally attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 11:50 AM
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That's what I found interesting... from what I can see, multidating is largely a USA - UK phenomenon. I've lived in France, Spain, Germany, Italy and fuck me, everyone was commited like after the second date. Most were not even dating anyone else before we started talking. Most European people are definitely a one person type of gal/guy when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:15 AM
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I've noticed it's slightly drops down in the mid twenties range... which is a bummer 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:26 AM
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She said "more than likely" which is a valid statement from a logical perspsctive. Low N women tend view sex as something emotional. She didn't say "all low n-count women think this way". You may or may not fit in in that "more likely". According to you, you don't. Even so, are you sure you're not retroactively changing the narrative about your previous ltr? Not throwing stones but "more often than not", I've seen people make bad statements about exes upon the dissilution of a relationship. Duri…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 01:44 PM
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I mean her point still kinda stands. Of 3 people, two have been in LTR's, only one hookup. A lot of years spent in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:00 AM
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Plenty of men care about body count. What planet are you living on?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:36 AM
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How would someone know they want more than that after a limited amount of interaction? Now, unless they were friends for years beforehand (meaning they had plenty time to get to know one another and shit), I don't see how it's possible to really gauge what you want from someone. Maybe if they appear usefull at a first glance (aka good job, seems responsible etc etc). Then, the above theory of the commenter may actually be correct (she doesn't find him as attractive as the hookups).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:37 AM
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I mean she is basically confirming it lol. The husband wouldn't have gotten casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:22 AM
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I do care to some extent. Who gives a fuck if some nobodies on an obsucure subreddit think I'm insecure? My answer would be: ok, and? Do whatever the fuck you want man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:53 PM
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Honestly I didn't read his comment as him lamenting not being able to have casual sex. More like, he never had it so he wants someone who didn't have it either so they're matched on the experience levels sort of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:48 PM
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Also, thing is, it's a fact no every man gets to have casual sex. In fact, it's quite a rarity for a guy to "get lucky". So his point is that women who have casual sex are attracted to a certain kind of energy that he just doesn't bring to the table. So his viewpoint is actually beneficial for everyone involved: he doesn't date a woman who might have settled for him and she doesn't date a guy that is resentful of her sexual past. Win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:18 AM
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If that's the case then he still can do whatever he wants and have any standards he wants lmao. Like why not? Why shouldn't he use his own arbitrary standards anyway? He wants a woman who didn't have casual sex because he didn't have it either. Fair deal to me. I would be weirder if he had casual sex and wanted a woman who didn't imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:11 AM
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He describes not wanting to date a woman who has had casual sex. He doesn't like the idea of casual sex therefore he wants someone with the same view as him. He absolutely describes an incompatibility. Different views on one of the pillars of a relationship. So yes, it does matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:39 PM
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You wouldn't get in the relationship in the first place lmao. I had casual sex. I wouldn't be with a woman waiting for marriage for example. It's common sense lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:38 PM
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Apparently not most. Hence the example above.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:29 PM
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It is about their extremely different views on sex. Therefore about compatibility. Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:29 PM
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He's not tall compared to a let's say, a Dutch guy. But he is objectively above average when you take the whole world into account. Couse omg maybe you haven't noticed but the whole world is bigget than Netherlands or Croatia. Like take a 7 inch dick. It's a big dick right? In Nigeria it's bang on average. So, if in one or a few countries in the world, a 7 incher is average.... that means it's not a big dick? 178 cms is above average however you cut it the fuck. Maybe not like "super tall" or an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:19 AM
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Your country is not the world lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:25 AM
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I didn't even think he would be ugly. Who fucks ugly people lmao Just the word to describe him, "embarrasing" was kinda funky. Anyhow, why not date him? Like what made him unappealing for a ltr but good enough for sex only?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:01 PM
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Why would you fuck an embarrasing guy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:10 PM
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Why is it nonsensical? It makes perfect sense =)))
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:56 PM
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You ask? =))))
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:23 PM
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It's simple really. If she let her ex hit up earlier, it means she was more attracted to him. Why is that so hard to get I wonder? Plus, in this day and age, most people fuck within the first few dates. If you don't get it by the 3rd date, well, imo you should dip but I agree with you, there are a lot of desperate men willing to wife up women who don't really like em very much. Sucks to be them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:21 AM
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I was moreso refering to the "hoe phase" or people engaging in lots of casual sex. It's not such a wide spread phenomenon my dude considering the afformentioned body count statistics. Sorry not sorry but I don't think having sex with like 4 people in a lifetime can be considered "fucking around" :)))
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:24 PM
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Yeah I mean it's the exact same story with me and my gf! Started out as FWB, we liked each other and then started to date. Same general feelings on the matter as you, nothing too deep about it. Hope you have many more years ahead of you together!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:13 PM
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I guess the disconnect comes from some women having different strategies for different men. In my experience though, most of the time people have sex within the first 3 dates =))) Again, I never said I agree, just tried to explain the anger you might see around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:02 PM
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And again, millions of couples where people fucked around in their youth, then found each other, married, settled down and raise normal, well-adjusted kids. I wouldn't say millions nor plenty though. The average number of sexual partners is like 3-7 or smth like that. Like in a lifetime. Facts are, people that trully fuck around are a rarity and they get mostly paired up with other people that fucked around. And they're not the norm imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:34 AM
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There are plenty of people who had fun NSA sex and then went on to have perfectly normal and loving relationships. I always feel like people on PPD view that as something impossible. I think the problem some men have on PPD is the notion of "being made to wait" if a woman is looking for smth serious when that same woman didn't make guys she had casual sex with do the same. Different treatment and all of that. Probably that's why they get mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:29 AM
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Still, you made a shitty generalization. Liking a specific dick no matter the size, shape etc is totally fine and I'm actually happy for your guy. Saying you understand americans where their circumcisions weren't done for medical reasons at all and praising circumcised dick is not really warranted and frankly shitty. Their situation and retardation and your individual experience have nothing to do at all. And I'll bet you would have loved his dick just as much if it wasn't circumcised. Having th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 12:51 AM
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That's kinda fucked up tbh It's straight up supporting mutilation couse you like how a dick looks (you can't tell me it makes any dfference techincally wise, it's not size we're talking about).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:57 PM
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Wow, sexual compatibility is the lowest lol :)))). Any particular reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 11:47 PM
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