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no way to report the problem. reddit doesn't do anything. they won't ban them. i'm being threatened with violence. i am afraid for my life. no one will help me. i have to kill myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:15 AM
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No one will help me. I have to kill myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:14 AM
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I have been threatened with violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:14 AM
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People on reddit are threatening me with violence and no one will help me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 09:44 AM
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I am a victim. No one will help me. I have to kill myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 08:52 AM
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If that's how you're defining it, then no, self esteem might not help some men. I mean anything MIGHT help, that's easy to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:36 PM
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Disagree. It feels like it's true because most people assume that a person who didn't have success didn't really try.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:31 PM
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To what limit? What about sexual orientation? What about finding non-human things sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:00 PM
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I've never heard of that guy. What I see as the "main" incel twitter is here: https://twitter.com/IncelsCo/with_replies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:48 PM
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I've noticed the same thing, but female cousins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:26 PM
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Is confidents and self esteem from actually succeeding?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:18 PM
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You're regurgitating what you think are blackpill talking points, and that's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:58 AM
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Basically shit about how if you don't look good enough, there's very little chance of "ascending" (I think this means losing your virginity) But that's a testable hypothesis. What if it is true? I mean, in some way. Looks are #1 determinant on if you are desirable to the opposite sex Again, is it true? Not for platonic friends, sure, but what about for dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:58 AM
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But is that actually incel content? Or, just what you think is incel content?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:54 AM
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because I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:54 AM
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Incel blackpill content is what you find on incel.is, I think. Which is ... what, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:59 AM
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Literally just reading through your comment history. People who dont care just dont bother. Which is why I don't need to write more, or pick a comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:34 AM
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Hobbies are important too, and I genuinely don't see that TRPers even have any besides "working out" and "making money". No one owes you "proof" of hobbies Usually, mentioning other hobbies isn't relevant You're complaining about no one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:30 AM
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The proof is your comment history, and me replying to one of your comments doesn't mean that I care about your opinion. More like, I'm warning others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:18 AM
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You know l feel sorry for majority of guys who cannot be honest to women on that they just go on dates for sex The guys who you think are like that are not. Does the possibility of sex make them more interested in going on a date? Yes. Is that literally the only reason? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:57 AM
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You think anyone who cares about physical attractiveness is shallow, so I don't care about your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:55 AM
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What exactly is "Incel/Black Pill Content"? I would argue that most people have distorted views of what "Incel/Black Pill Content" really is. Like, there's "Incel/Black Pill Content" as it lives in the heads of non-incels, and then there's the real "Incel/Black Pill Content".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:54 AM
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But l just don't why it places looks as the one determination of your dating success It doesn't, you don't understand what Blackpill beliefs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:46 AM
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those weren't the parallels I was drawing, but go ahead and keep pretending you don't know what an analogy is, ... or maybe you really don't and I'm so sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:55 AM
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Because you're intentionally ignoring the relevant parts of the analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:47 AM
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What a terrible argument, if she didn't want to get raped she should have worn such slutty clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:28 AM
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no thanks, it's not fleshed out, and I don't want people yelling at me about how terrible my idea is when it is something I never intended to be a finished product in the first place. How about you? What proposals do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:36 AM
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I don't have any fleshed out proposals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:31 AM
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I don't have to choose
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:28 AM
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straw man argument
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:59 PM
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Honey, I'm not running a charity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:31 PM
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Huh? Neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:07 PM
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If you’re whining about paying for dates, why not take that date money and get a $100 blowjob? I don't think you realize how shitty a $100 blowjob is. Or....are you not already paying for dates and putting in effort? Don't make it personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:50 PM
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I didn't have any specific ones in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:06 PM
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... An alternative path that, for practical purposes, isn't questionably available. Well, women here have categorically ruled out any other options. Not that there aren't any, but women and BP'ers insist they are unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:37 PM
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It doesn't matter how difficult, illegal, or such it is. With that qualification the suggestion isn't saying much of anything. Once you admit paying for it is largely out of reach for most men then you've watered it down so much that it makes no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:25 PM
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But when someone tells you that they do not wish to have sex on the first date, you need to respect that boundary Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:41 PM
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How you do compare practically impossible to practically impossible? Both are very, very hard to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:46 AM
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Obsession is when you every day “wants” lead to behavior that becomes detrimental to your everyday life. It's not the "wants" that are detrimental, most of the time, it's not getting what they want which is detrimental. But, hey, fine, I'll go along with your theory. The vast majority of people are sex addicts, and most of them are able to satisfy their addictions. "Sex addict," is the normal, "healthy" state of most people. Pick one: wanting sex is deviant being "obsessed" with sex isn't a bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:14 PM
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I won't
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:45 PM
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Purple pill agrees with a lot of black pill things, they just don't realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 05:37 PM
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Why is her selection process faulty for not picking you? not about me I set up the the hypothetical scenario that way
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 05:17 PM
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only if it's cheap, convenient, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 05:10 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 05:07 PM
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What you're failing to account for is the difference between positive rights/entitlements and negative rights/entitlements. You don't get to dictate the framework, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:58 PM
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It does matter because you are saying they want to satisfy “healthy normal desires”, you need to define what “healthy” and “normal” mean. How? Give me two example definitions, and show me how it makes a difference. Your post basically means nothing if you are not defining normal and healthy sexual appetite. We don't need to define "normal and healthy sexual appetite." We could spend hours and hours coming up with a precise definition, but it wouldn't change the conclusion to my post. More over, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:20 PM
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I don't but why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:13 PM
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People should continue having sex with people they are attracted to. Some people don't get to do that, so how do we help them get what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:54 PM
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"Go see a prostitute" is the standard flippant response. I could like to an example, but here's the relevant part from the comment: If you're chronically sexless you can go to a strip club with a couple hundred bucks or hire an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:54 PM
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Dude do your food desires match with your actual needs? It doesn't matter either way. We don't need a static metric for my argument to work. Completely unnecessary. Think to yourself: how would I define normal sexual desires? Then, assume that's my definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:50 PM
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Nope, you just want to demonize me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:48 PM
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There are lots. small percentage of the population No, I want your definition. Because for your assertion to make any sense there needs to be a static metric to compare these sex obsessed people with. We don't need a static metric for my argument to work. Completely unnecessary. Think to yourself: how would I define normal sexual desires? Then, assume that's my definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:40 PM
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The people who insist that hiring a good prostitute is cheap an easy are always the ones who have zero experience with how these things work in the real world. If you're homeless just buy a house. That's what they sound like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:33 PM
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In the hypothetical we have a "god's eye" view.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:31 PM
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You're thinking way too literally, reading too much into my comments. So what should a woman do then? I don't know, how do you think they should help them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:30 PM
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But I never believed I am entitled to it or hated men because I wasn’t getting it. and neither have most men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:28 PM
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Don't misquote me. There are plenty of virgin or sexless men who do not obsess over sex. asexuals. We're talking about the majority here, not the edge cases. Obsessing over sex means that you have an unhealthy fixation on it. Most of the people you think are obsessing actually have a healthy level of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:28 PM
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“Can’t satisfy their healthy, normal desires” - define normal sexual desires..? Use your own definition. People can have different opinions. There are lots of people who are obsessed A small number out outliers, sure, but not lots of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:24 PM
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You're still comparing not having sex to rape. I'm not, I'm showing how your argument is wrong. Flying to Vegas and going to a brothel is perfectly legal and accessible Accessible? How rich do you think people are?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:22 PM
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If women want an abortion they can do so in international waters. The means are there. Sometimes you'll have to work for things.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:20 PM
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The hypothetical makes no sense Her choosing method is faulty. If she knew the truth she would have picked someone she rejected with her faulty methodology. and presumes people can read each other's minds. Nope, not at all necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:19 PM
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Not willing to try new stuff is not other people’s problem. No one said it was, so not sure where you're getting that from, but more importantly, it isn't an issue of not being willing to try new stuff. Why would someone try something they've already tried and know doesn't work? Why try something "new" that you know won't work for other reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:17 PM
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Nobody owes you sex I never say anyone did. The rest of what you're saying is just "I don't care about men."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:15 PM
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I love how woman equate "I want more sex" with "I'm owed sex." The only way that can wrap their head around it is to assume the person is entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:14 PM
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If you're chronically sexless you can go to a strip club with a couple hundred bucks or hire an escort. Hell fly to Vegas or wherever prostitution is legal and take care of it that way. Just unreasonably go out of your way, spend unreasonable amounts of money How does the man know she made a mistake? Irrelevant to the hypothetical She's rejecting him because she has no desire to get to know him. She's not interested. Not being interested isn't a mistake. In the hypothetical, she's making a mista…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:12 PM
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Then STFU and keep doing the old way. Simple. We started out with the old way not working either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:10 PM
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Literally they can buy it. as if it were easy and cheap
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:09 PM
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There isn't a point. Here it is again: You won't fall over and die if you get raped either, so by your logic ... I hope you can see how wrong you are. Instead of arguing against my point you ignored it and tried to change the subject. If you "need" sex hire an escort. Let's apply your same logic: if you "need" to not be raped, then just consent to the sex. Of course, your logic is crazy. you do have a right to not get raped. No, only that there might be negative consequences for someone who trie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:08 PM
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How is it everyone’s problem that you’re not getting your dick wet? How is it everyone’s problem that you're getting raped? It's the same idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:04 PM
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The obsessed are the ones that let it occupy a lot of their time and headspace and prioritize it heavily a large majority of the time. Not obsessed, you're just trying to frame normal behavior negatively. they have normal desires they can't get that thing what they want they think about how they can get it they make getting it a higher priority over the other things they like that they can get they can get the other things they like relatively quickly, so the left over time is spent trying to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 03:03 PM
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I can only speak for myself. And then refusing to change when the people he’s pointing the finger at suggests a new method. That’s whining. Usually that "new method" won't work in some way, depending on what is specifically suggested. Pointing out how the suggestion isn't helpful isn't whining. Like whining about how psychologically damaging it is to be constantly rejected, but wont do shit to change that situation. I'm already doing tons of things to change the suggestion. You just don't see th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:59 PM
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The obsession comes from not having sex at all At this point your just arguing semantics. Overall, the underlying "demand" for sex is the same for those who have it and those who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:55 PM
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Because nobody has to compromise their desires compromise on something, there you go. Rape is a crime that involves violating one’s autonomy Unwanted, chronic sexlessness should be a crime too. It isn't, in contrast to rape, because with rape there's only one person to punish, and in the opposite, there's many people. So, they just leave that one out of what is defined as a crime. and causing great psychological damage amongst other things. So does unwanted, chronic sexlessness. You just don't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:52 PM
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Rape can kill you if it’s violent enough. No, it would be that other violence, not the rape. And what do you mean she doesn’t realize she missing out? Her faulty selection process ends up making her reject men she would actually be happy with. Do you think she cares at all that she’s missing out on sex with you? She would if she knew what was actually happening, that's the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:48 PM
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Having sex on your mind at all times would qualify as an obsession. No one has sex on their mind all the time, including the men you think are sex obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:45 PM
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Fine, then it's not "plenty of people."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:44 PM
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Trying to change the subject when shown to be wrong. Peak clown world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:44 PM
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There's nothing stopping ugly men, Average Joes — the entire menagerie — from "using women for sex" if they can. IF THEY CAN, that's the key part. The lack of consent on the part of women is what is stopping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:33 PM
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Me: Have you thought about narrowing your search based on compatibility and type? Most men have already tried that, or are already doing that. Narrowing the criteria doesn't make those women come by any faster. All it does is preemptively reject women who might be good enough. while men here act like whiny ass women. men complain: men are too whiny! men don't complain: men are perfectly happy! Huh ... it seems like to matter what men do, you refuse to take their problems seriously. It's not an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:30 PM
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incels: I don't actually hate women, I just can't find any of them who want to have sex with me non-incels: incels are dangerous, crazy, woman-hating men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:23 PM
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being a hot woman trumps both
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:22 PM
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Who wants to deal with anyone who’s constantly whining, I see men sometimes saying critical things here, so they must be constantly whining all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:20 PM
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No they shouldn’t. Why not? Sex is not a right. You’ll never fall over and die if you don’t have sex. Irrelevant. You won't fall over and die if you get raped either, so by your logic ... I hope you can see how wrong you are. If a woman doesn’t want to have sex with you, that’s it. More like: she doesn't realize she's missing out on what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:19 PM
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but women could compromise, so there you go
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:14 PM
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maybe they're not fucking anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:06 PM
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Plenty of people do not get any sex or the level of sex they desire but sex doesnt occupy as much headspace to the point they talk about it all the time, or much really. asexuals. we're not talking about them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:48 PM
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not important either way
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:46 PM
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presumably, empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:46 PM
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Why can’t the healthy, normal state of man be an obsession with sex, It isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:46 PM
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obviously, I'm talking in general
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:45 PM
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everyone's
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:44 PM
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You can't accept that wanting isn't the same as obsession. I'm sorry you can't see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:43 PM
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because I’ve seen her say looks are important before she says that only the "shallow" losers think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:00 AM
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tell that to lilyth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:54 AM
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are you sure? Yup plenty of them around Nope, and that's what I'm calling out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:50 AM
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men who place life or death importance on sex Those men don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:47 AM
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i don't know where you read that a woman said sex isn't important see the person who's username starts with "lil"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:45 AM
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If physical attractiveness doesn't matter then women should marry the ugly men with good personalities. It does matter to them, and they see sex as important, so they reject the ugly men. If physical attractiveness doesn't matter then they'll be able to have just as enjoyable sex with ugly men as the do with non-ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:44 AM
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Because unenjoyable Totally irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:42 AM
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Then only date an ugly man. You shouldn't care if they're sexy or not, since sex isn't important. because we're not public service holes You don't care one way or another under the "sex isn't important" theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:41 AM
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Most women on here wrongly assume that men who want more sex are obsessed with sex. They aren't, you're just being stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:39 AM
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No one is obsessed, like I already told you. Thanks for agreeing that no one is obsessed with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:37 AM
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Woah you need to chill out. Hah, nope, you're not my boss. You need to chill yourself, my bro. I didn’t try to subtly say anything. You did with your I think being obsessed with it is unhealthy but being infatuated with it is fine. There's no reason to say that other than trying to subtly, or maybe not, that normal sexually desire is unhealthy. No one is obsessed so no one is unhealthy, thanks for agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:33 AM
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it can be enjoyable without being important. same goes for wanting. Regardless, no one has to prove why they should, only that doing so causes no harm to them. If you make someone else feel better and it's no big deal to you, then why not doing it? With sex being unimportant, it doesn't matter if it isn't going to be enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:28 AM
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I already said I agree with you you tried to subtly say the opposite. "Well, being obsessed is bad," trying to imply that the main problem is men being obsessed all the time. Why do even mention "obsessed" when you've already agreed it's irrelevant? I remember how I felt so I understand what you’re saying. Again, you're trying to be cute and pretend that I'm crazy. You remembering "how I felt" doesn't change what I'm saying. Maybe I'm wrong, and you agree that men aren't generally obsessed with …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:23 AM
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If sex isn’t important for someone, what would they get from sleeping with many men? It could be unimportant but minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:15 AM
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I agree with your sentiment but I do think being obsessed is unhealthy. Fine, but they're not obsessed! You think they are, but they really have a normal amount of desire but with an abnormally low ability to satisfy their desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:14 AM
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If sex isn't important than women can just date/fuck men they aren't attracted to. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:04 AM
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except for sex, which is pretty damned important.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:03 AM
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Take away sex any "normal" person and you'll find that they're "obsessed" with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:03 AM
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It goes beyond being young, so no. Maybe I am delusional, but I believe I know the difference between normal desire for sex and obsession for sex. You are. You're confusing overall desire with "desire given what I already have." Of course a starving person is going to be "obsessed" with food so long as they don't get it! Take away sex any "normal" person and you'll find that they're "obsessed" with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:03 AM
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there is a difference between wanting something in a "sane" way and wanting it regardless of how they do it or consequences. So? Setting aside the random crazy, usually, people confuse the former with the latter. I want a Mercedes (sane desire), but I am not willing to steal it (insane desire) or force Mercedes to give one to me for free because "reasons". Right, and men aren't saying the analogous thing. Also it becomes an obsession if it's all consuming and all other desires/wants become unimp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:37 AM
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How is any sane person surprised that men who can't get enough sex/dating/whatever, to match what they want, want that? How can any sane person equate "I want the things that I want but don't have yet" with "obsession"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:19 AM
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I thought that's how it works, giving you "matches" based on your network of Facebook friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:08 AM
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I'm not, you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:53 AM
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I'll probably never use Hinge because I try my best to avoid Facebook, and have moved a few times. Pretty much no one I'm Facebook-friends with is in my location, so none of the "exploiting social networks" thing will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:52 AM
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replace your weasel word of "attitude" for "theory." sorry, bro, it's already at rock-bottom-simple, I guess you need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:43 AM
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Women who have partners: if you are reading this you are mentally ill. Please call 911 or go to your nearest emergency room, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:38 AM
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just because you would fuck any women doesnt mean you should build your whole life philosphy around that. No one does, they just have a normal desire for sex without getting the normal amount. Being a loser is fine, just have some fucking self respect for yourself. Why should anyone try to please you? You aren't offering them anything that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:37 AM
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This attitude comes from a position of helplessness and weakness. Where it comes from doesn't make it not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:34 AM
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Doesn't matter, they're never going to change. You're just baiting men into saying things you can shame them for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:33 AM
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Is it a “life partner,” Yes, with a few qualifications: you've over-specified you left out the sex part. if sex isn't in the mix then we can throw out the whole monogamy thing. Sex is THE THING that separates spouse from best platonic friend. don't come back at me like "well, that's never going to happen, so settle for less!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 07:31 AM
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no thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:47 PM
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.. and there's an order of magnitude of difference. Pulling the “woe is me” card is dumb. no one is doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:47 PM
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I'm sure if we dug deep enough, if you'd even be honest, we'd be able to pinpoint where your experience was much easier than that of most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:06 PM
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But you also can't really force women to be with men they don't want to be with. That wouldn't be fulfilling for either party. Who knows? It's worth a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:04 PM
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that's not funny
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 10:03 PM
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he was being reasonable, you weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:59 PM
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I don't care what anyone says about what "some guy" wrote, especially when they don't link to the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:45 PM
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So where are men like you when guys here are going on about how women only need to be attractive to attract and keep a partner? I've got better things to do with my time, but your welcome to include a link to my comment when you reply to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:44 PM
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Do men ignore personality and status and focus solely on beauty? Without physical attraction - at or above the bare minimum - the most you could ever be is a platonic friend, but once the beauty "check box" has been checked, other things matter. Other things can even be "very important," even deal-breakers in the extreme, even if she is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:11 PM
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At this point, I'm pretty sure you're reading a different subreddit when you say those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:08 PM
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People would have to be forbidden from trying to date IRL too. Impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:06 PM
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You mean also having an authoritarian government prevent anyone from trying to meet people IRL too? It could never work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:05 PM
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Average women will recognize they aren’t receiving top men anymore and either leave the app or reduce their standards to get matches. They're not going to lower their standards, they'll just complain about how it isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:53 PM
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This way women aren't flooded by messages and can be certain that whichever guy picks them will be someone who probably really likes them. That won't work. Women will still do their "where are all the good men?" complaining All women will try to match with the same 50-ish guys men who want a relationship: they will start with the very attractive women, so it will take forever for most women to get any matches men who want a hook up: they'll shoot a bit lower to make it more likely to get a match…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:50 PM
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My loss? Dude your attitude towards women sucks. Why should i have to date a guy who seems You don't. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:25 AM
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Yeahhh sorry. Your comment history clearly indicates you do not meet my standards lol. Your loss, so just remember that the next time you want to complain. Not guys who think they need to be 10/10 attractive to even bother dating in the first place. I don't think that, but I can't stop you from shooting yourself in the foot. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:20 AM
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I see dudes saying this all the time but I’ve never met anyone with crazy ass standards for men besides those redpill gym bros really. Good for you. Hell my standards are: not homophobic, sexist, misogynistic, racist and the guy needs to be progressive. That’s it. I’d date a guy with no car and no job if I liked him enough. Idc. I'm right here, send me a DM.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:13 AM
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... and if you die before you get a good relationship then you'll have nothing to complain about, because you'll already be dead. One hand washes the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 02:06 AM
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Unproductive or not doesn't change the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:42 AM
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And yet you're the one saying they you are ugly. I'm not, I'm just relaying how other people treat me. I believe I'm amazing, okay? Fill in the blanks however you like: I believe I'm good. It makes no difference. You haven't met every woman. And I never will. You're the one saying you have solutions, you find me a woman. I don't know how you engage with women or what you tell them. You're the one saying you have solutions. You tell me what works; that'll solve the problem at hand. No? Then you'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:41 AM
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You're skirting the real problem: women have way more demands, and in total, they aren't reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:20 AM
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Fair enough, I don't care about your definition of "compatible."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:08 AM
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There are millions of women out there that are perfect for you. Then tell me who they are. You're the one making the claim, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 01:04 AM
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It cannot be a woman's fault that you aren't good enough for her. No, it can and is. She could change her definition of "good enough for her" and then he'll be good enough for her. Easy. It's just like how incels are wrong for only wanting super models. Presumably someone out there is good enough for her, if it's her fault and not yours, then how come someone else is successful where you failed. You're changing the scope of the question. Whoever is responsible for maintaining/designing the ship …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:55 AM
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You've been made to believe that looks (and possibly height) are everything. No. If we're talking about platonic friends? Sure, physical attractiveness doesn't really matter. We're talking about dating, so it does, it matters a lot, and it matters first. If a woman tries to qualify you on those things, she's not the right woman. And if every woman does that then no woman wants you. And so seek out people on your level, not below you. I did, and it turns out that none of them want me: what now? H…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:46 AM
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What do you mean by "blame"? How are you defining that word? If you have a choice then you are to blame. It's just that simple. It may not always be fair to blame yourself for rejection. But it's never fair to blame someone else. Well, sure, if you qualify everything by "fair," and you choose to define "fair" however you need to in order to make your statement true, then it's very easy. If someone rejects you it's because they don't think you're good enough for them (no, it's not because they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 12:12 AM
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People who suggest trying to expand your social circle, and then maybe dating people you meet that way, don't understand how hard that is in your late 20s/30s, and beyond. Usually, these people recommend that in contrast to OLD. I have to assume most of these people are young, topping out around 25. It's definitely easier for women in their 30s, but for men in their 30s, trying to expand your social circle, outside of what is already obvious, is practically impossible. Not that it isn't impossib…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:46 PM
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Well, sure, if you define "not compatible" as "she said so."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:31 PM
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Oh, good for you then. Most people aren't that fortunate (to have such low standards or be some kind of "trust fund baby").
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:29 PM
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Why can't you get everything you want? Because of objective reality? Because I don't have a magic wand? Seriously, it's a pretty basic concept for adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:25 PM
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What many men claim: "Women hate seeing men express their feelings!" I think you're getting caught up in misreading what men claim. What many men ACTUALLY claim: Women hate seeing men express NEGATIVE feelings OR VULNERABILITY! (Vulnerability is not necessarily negative, hence separating that out.) Women have no problem when men express positive feelings. It's so-so when men express aggression, it depends on the context, the woman in question, etc. All women hate when seeing men express sadness.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:23 PM
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If I can get everything I want, I'd want marriage. Everything less than that is less than 100% of what I want. At some point, "less" crosses from "eh, not perfect, but good enough" to "this is not desirable." For example: if someone is going to give me a car, my dream car is a Ferrari, but if they can only give me a Honda Civic I won't give it back. If they're going to give me piece of junk that won't even work, I would give it back. Make sense? or you want an open relationship. If it was in a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:16 PM
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There is no need to wave a magic wand. Marriage and children are pretty standard. No, I mentioned "wave a magic wand" to give a feel of the kind of "want" I was describing. Like, to want world peace and an end to global warming: without consideration of what might be reasonably possible. My point was to describe a range from "perfect" to "good enough," and even good enough is practically impossible. It's not just me saying it either. "Marriage and children" is pretty much out of the question for…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:03 PM
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Weird or not, women sometimes reject men for not having enough of a social media presence. I know, it happened to me, while in my 30s. We matched over Bumble, scheduled a coffee date, but she cancelled at the last minute because of my lack of a social media presence. ... she wouldn't have known the social media of the guy at the next table, but my lack of social media was a problem, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:57 PM
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If I get to wave a magic wand and get everything I want: a happy, long marriage, with children (within reason; I'm not going to write out every little detail) If I have to settle for the bare minimum definition of "a life worth living": serial monogamy without unreasonable dry spells, including the option for one-off sex or FWB, if the mood strikes me. Note that I don't even get the opportunity for 2. All women have the option for 2, even if it isn't with men who would be their first choices. Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:54 PM
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It's their choice, so, obviously, they play some part in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:32 PM
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Just keep trying. After enough rejections you'll find someone, or you'll die from old age. Or, stop trying, and accept a life without the things you want. Either way, I don't care, just make sure you only blame yourself for other people rejecting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:55 PM
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These guys insist sexual availability and looks are the primary things that matter. No, these guys are saying that sex is important, and must meet a minimum threshold to be considered a "dating candidate." Otherwise, the woman, just like men, is only a "platonic friend candidate." Sexual availability? ... well, yeah, if the idea is that the relationship will include having sex with each other, then that goes without saying. When you listen to guys talk about “typical women” there’s a pattern of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:26 PM
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I understand what you're saying. My disagreement with you is that you're not addressing the questions I posed. No where in your wall of text do you address the goal we agreed we were trying to achieve, get attention in the romantic sense. If you work on your confidence and self esteem, you'll separate yourself from others who are just surface level detail but no substance underneath. We're talking about dating, romantic relationships, sex, etc; confidence and self esteem are not enough to make w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:12 PM
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Again, this calls into question the idea that incels set their standards too high causing them to have difficulty in finding a mate. Rather, they adjust their minimum standards in line with what they feel they offer. Uh-oh, I think that comment needs to be deleted for promoting incel content.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:16 PM
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Think about it. No, I'm asking: let's make the goal "to be noticed by the opposite sex," so how is someone supposed to go about achieving that goal? I agree about self improvement for it's own sake, let's set that aside. I bring this up because, often, when someone - usually a man - talking about their lack of dating success, often, someone will recommend self improvement. You'll see them as the problem when it's got nothing to do with them. How so? Success or failure depends on the choices of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:05 PM
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idk why “he can’t be ugly” has to be explicitly stated. Many women and blue pillers here believe that physical attractiveness doesn't matter, for example: Not irrelevant at all. Plenty of short and/or ugly dudes who clean up because of their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:48 PM
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Best description I ever read on here, Funny, because, five days later, the comment is deleted. It's also the top comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:25 PM
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just in order to be noticed by the opposite sex. What are you supposed to do if that's your goal? ("be noticed by the opposite sex," date, get a relationship, get sex, etc.) Confidence and self esteem should be the first traits gained. You're contradicting yourself by making confidence and self esteem the "self improvement" things. Let's follow your theory though: now I have confidence and self esteem, so now women will magically want to date me? No, you're just engaging in the red pill mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:42 PM
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I don't get the obsession with "self improvement goals." Like, why are you basing your self esteem on meeting some criteria? So what if you can knit a sweater, or bench press 25 more pounds than before? Who cares? Answer: no one. If you have a healthy amount of self esteem then you'll see yourself as already good enough. "You should self improve for its own sake." ... implying that if you don't want to "self improve" then you're lazy and bad. But also, if you have things to improve then you're n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:29 PM
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