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No one is flipping out. It's only one post and the OP says its likely Matel doing so as their sales have been low lately. The top comment says women can do what they want, but live with the consequences. Next top comment is a joke that Ken is likely the same. Despite what TBP will have you believe, not every post on some current event on TRP is guys foaming at the mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 03:25 PM
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I might have to stop reading these BluePill cheating posts. I might be developing an NTR fetish.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/16 07:33 PM
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There is no "taking things to court" nor is it likely there ever will be. So men should just turn over and be forced into parenthood when women don't have to? The universe we live in is the one in which this is expectable, because the man has no other recourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 10:01 AM
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I take it if you switched the genders in your post, you would still stand by it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:53 AM
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What's weak is you not fully quoting him. What if he said he condones intimidating pregnant women who advocate drowning newborns. Would you still call him weak or can pregnant women do no wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:36 AM
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being a man just happens to be rolling over and being a wage slave at the threat of imprisonment and doing whatever women want lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:27 AM
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I don't understand how someone lacking so much self awareness could get paid to write shit like this. At least when guys write stupid and idiotic articles lacking in self awareness, people rightly call them out and/or ignore them. Yet no one does that to these women "writers". In all likelihood, she'll get paid to write many more. And women will swallow it up. entitled bullshit Its baffling. Truly fucking baffling how women don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 07:41 AM
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This goes to show that feminists skill is top notch at controlling the social narrative and conversation on gender issues when most people still equate MRAs to white supremacists.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 08:22 PM
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If you are going to read TRM, might I recommend starting with Year Two. That's when he really hits his stride, and Year Three is much easier to understand when he draws differing concepts together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 12:25 AM
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Can I get the name of that book?
/r/MensRights05/11/15 03:50 AM
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would not be compromised by the participation of female troops Someone brought up a very succinct point I hadn't thought of. That fact that parents wouldn't be comfortable with men in the woods with their daughters, even with other female leaders around. Eventually, like teaching, men would be forced out and/or very reluctant to join. With the eventual female leadership, physical activities would be discourage/banned and a focus on education presented, like in Canada. It would just turn into the…
/r/MensRights30/10/15 12:47 AM
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but at the same time it's a problem that girls don't have the opportunity to be in something like Boy Scouts Like someone else said, the fact that the Boys Scouts are all male is a feature not a bug. The fact that the Girl Scouts camp on someones front lawn is a feature, not a bug. The girls and their female leaders want it that way. Nothing is stopping them from doing differently. When the girls see their brothers go into the woods, there's no Patriarchal overlord telling them they can't do the…
/r/MensRights30/10/15 12:32 AM
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We can all see how this will end. girls join boys scouts The adults pushing for it get into leadership positions Within ten years, they start reforms Capture the Flag, full roam, Hide & Seek in the woods that drew the girls to BSA all get eliminated as being to dangerous or having to little value. Gets replaced with after lunch nap, sitting in bunk reading and coloring, and writing letters to friends that the girls didn't want to do Likely, boys start their own organization that either gets shut…
/r/MensRights29/10/15 09:51 PM
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But so many of these women are doing it because they want a relationships. They throw themselves at these guys because they have little else to offer. Most of these girls who call themselves "experienced" would have gladly entered a relationship had the guy agreed. Most of these guys would appear noticeably more attractive then the girl side by side.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/15 01:46 PM
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No, I'm calling you ignorant, because you didn't even bother to do your homework I'm calling you ignorant, because you believe an answer thrown together on the spot, without information, has more value than one arrived at by an exchange of ideas I have an answer. Pro-lifers have an answer. You do not have an answer. Because you disagree with pro-lifers does not mean that they did not do their homework. It does not mean they have put no thought to their answer without information. Yet you still c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 02:59 PM
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At what point between conception and childbirth does a fetus become an human being? If you can't answer that question, how can you say that pro-lifers are lying when they answer that fetuses are human beings? Nearly half the U.S population has an answer to that question. advocating ignorance How so? By asking someone who is pro-choice to answer when a fetus becomes a human with their own opinion? If you refuse to answer because it's a difficult question, it is you who are deflecting when you say…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 02:32 PM
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Like when we closed down all those abortion clinics? One question proving it is an ethical issue. At what point between conception and childbirth does a fetus become a human being? Answer me that question, and I will agree the abortion debate is about controlling women's bodies and not a question about ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/15 12:41 PM
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There's a large difference to "have fun" and "ignore the Beta and fuck the bad boy or just any boy that's not beta until you want to settle down".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 04:01 AM
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Lame as it is, I felt a bit of pride seeing my username.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 03:04 AM
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They are liberals who hate her because she is liberal? You think that makes sense? Or is it they generally agree with the liberal positions on government, except for "social justice" and "diversity" which Clinton has strongly supported? Do you have to agree with liberals on every single issue to be considered a liberal? What if I told you RPs share many of the same views with you except for "social justice"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 10:06 PM
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feminism and social justice "forced diversity" Hillary Clinton First, is this all the left is to you? Are these three issues the sole reason you pull the lever for "D" at the ballot box? What about the environment? Taxes? Business regulations? Our military? Our foreign policy? Federal and State relations? Second, I'm sure we don't have similar definitions of feminism, social justice, or diversity. If your idea of "social justice" is college kangaroo courts, then no I don't believe in social just…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 06:48 PM
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Wait, are you say having "negative" views on women negatively effects men's hand eye coordination?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:59 AM
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Feminism. At the same time Scottish parliament was enacting more community service for women and mothers convicted of crimes, under the auspice that it was what any advanced liberal society would do, they were increasing the length of time for male convicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:41 PM
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You really can't quantify how many people are redpillers here because there are probably lots who just check theredpill and returnofkings but don't have a reddit account. Let's assume that is true. That there is five...no, TEN times the number of RPers as there are subscribers. That make 1.9 million men. That still leaves us with 2,700 BPers in this sub. One of those 2,700 BPers came to this sub, saw this little thread, and saw my post at 1 am on a Saturday night and replied to it withing 38 min…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 05:41 PM
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In what ways are sugar mama's and milf high status? Milfs certainly are not and the very few guys who have sugar mamas are doing it for the financial benefit, just like women. In your pursuit of making everything equal and making disclaimers, you made very illogical leaps and statements. I think you did so because you truly want everything to be equal no matter how unequal it is in reality. Putting disclaimers is something I really hate. It is something mostly women do for whatever reason. Your …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 05:18 PM
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Most of those "average looking girls" are probably getting (1) offers of commitment from Average Dude, which offers "don't count" because they're not sufficiently attractive This is the main problem that TBP refuses to acknowledge. The bulk of women fall in the 4 to 7 range in terms of attractiveness, just like a bell curve. They refuse to acknowledge what happens when most of these women can sleep with an 8+ for a ONS or just a few weeks. These average women then think they deserve a man who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 03:46 PM
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Let's do some quick math. /r/TheRedPill has 119,000 subscribers A sizable portion live outside the U.S or not in major cities. Let's say one third total. That leaves is with 79,334 people. /r/TheBluePill has 22,000 members. /r/PurplePillDebate has 5,500 members. And I doubt even half are active, as we see the same people post and comment. Even extremely popular comments from either side very rarely breaks three digits. Let's also assume half of these members are either RP or BP. This means only …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 05:40 AM
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Virtually all of them guard their RP membership secret with their lives. Any BPer claiming to have met a RPer in real life is lying. /r/TheRedPill only has 119,000 subscribers. A sizable portion live outside the U.S. Nearly everyone one of them, like you say, guard their membership status. Even if every member lived in major metropolitan cities across the U.S, what are the chances they know and regularly interact with a BPer, a much smaller and less known sub, and that that BP also post here in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 03:33 AM
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THEN...fall for the "he's to shy to perform around you" excuse. When I first read that part, I assumed he went back after the guy was able to get it up. But then further into the post I realized that he didn't go back in, and that the guy just basically fucked his wife while he waited in another room. I was flabbergasted. I re-read to double check and but nope. Reading it as a whole, it's clear that he never actually took part in the threesome. That makes everything else just so much infinitely …
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 04:59 AM
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Damn, I haven't seen someone get rekt that badly in a long time. That was quite the insightful post on the mentality of BPs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 10:05 PM
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Maybe someone will come up with the opposite of gay conversion therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 10:01 PM
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I.e "Never imply or suggest that any single woman does anything wrong or have bad qualities"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 02:23 AM
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Got some stats on the voting topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 05:15 AM
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Yup. Jerry "Airplane Peanuts" Seinfeld finds college campuses to much of a hassle to do gigs at.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/15 06:18 AM
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Although I know what you say is truth, it still hurts a bit to read.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/15 06:14 AM
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However, it also makes you quite cynical in your view towards women Like many people, you confuse cynical with realistic. Easily 90% of the time I've seen people use cynical or pessimistic, they are referring to the more realistic scenario/outcome. These men have a more realistic view of women, not a cynical one. So many BP's also say that women don't want to be on the pedestal, but when actually practiced, equate it to throwing women in a ditch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 04:47 PM
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So when Obama ran, are you seriously going to tell me that 99% of black people didn't vote for him, regardless if they agreed with his politics? Blacks are more conservative then whites, yet since the 1960's have voted for Democrats in the 80-90% range. So Obama only benefited from having a few more black come out to vote. Also remember that blacks only make up 12% of the U.S population and are heavily consecrated, so it wasn't much help anyway. It was whites wanting to feel good that got Obama …
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 04:01 PM
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This way feminism will destroy itself much faster. Sadly, this won't be the case. It will simply be an accepted fact of corporate culture. Women obviously won't see anything wrong, and men in these culture are being taught more and more that just thinking of how it might be unfair makes them sexist and thus proves why it is needed.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 03:53 PM
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While employers may not actively seek to exclude women, factors such as perceived family and child-rearing responsibilities lead to deep-seated stereotypes suggesting women are not be able to take on corporate leadership roles While they simultaneously keep increasing the amount of time that women are allowed to take on maternity leave and maintain 80-100% of their pay. It's what, almost two years now in some countries?
/r/TheRedPill10/06/15 03:37 PM
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There are evil women indeed, but it's not like we spend our childhood/teenage years plotting how to capture a beta after banging alfalfas TRP as moved away from this idea of malicious intent. When I began reading, the idea that women were doing this purposely was in full swing. That doesn't mean women are not aware of it to some extent though. It also doesn't mean that the consequences of a woman following AFBB will be any different. At the end of the day, women follow AFBB and men have to deal …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 02:00 PM
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Admittedly, the rape presented in this documentary might not have happened. But like The Rolling Stone rape story, Mattress Girl, and Ellen Pao's case, this will help bring light onto what is a serious pandemic of sexual assault and harassment women face. So I still think many people should still watch this documentary. /s Edit: Looks like CNN will be airing this in the fall, just a couple months before the first primaries. Expect Hillary Clinton to be use this at every opportunity imaginable be…
/r/MensRights02/06/15 06:01 PM
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The discrepancy is between STEM and non-STEM positions. Not to mention it's a flat pay of $3515 for every female, when that was only the average. Then there are factors, like departments, which they probably didn't take a close look at like they said they did. Social science is comprised of disciplines what can vary in pay quite substantially. Take Economics and Political Science. Political Science is roughly split I believe, but more men go into Economics which can pay much more. Plus there's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/15 01:31 PM
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What would you recommend he do? Keep trying when it has not been working for until it does? Say he is 25. Should he try for another 10 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 05:54 PM
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I'm literally laughing out loud. This is exactly what TRP means when they say men and women communicate differently. Guys read that and take it as a joke or as nothing serious. But TBP and women have to write everything in such a way as to offend no one. No guy reading that is going to think less of women, but women think that they will. I'm a minority and say and read the same shit, yet I don't think that someone else saying or reading it thinks less of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 05:33 AM
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It's an easy way to get out of admitting there are differences between the sexes. Just misconstrue what your opponent is saying and go for the easy kill. Obviously it's impossible to say one gender might enjoy sex more just like saying someone enjoys food more. That's why they always change what the argument or debate is about. Notice how the OP has yet to acknowledge the difference even when multiple people bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 05:07 AM
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You need to stop conflating enjoying sex and desiring sex. They are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/15 05:01 AM
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Part of it is, the worst a father to worry about his son is that he is getting strung along by some chick who is using him. The girls likely to lead him down some dark road of drugs and debauchery are already hanging out with guys doing the same. For the daughter, a father will worry she will be taken advantage of by the guys looking for a new lay. The number of girls I know who were doing normal girl things or even pretty straight laced suddenly being swooned by the guys with the car and partyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/15 04:39 PM
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I've learned that some people aren't worth arguing with. That most people are simply parroting whatever they have read. The same is true of both TRP and TBP. Thing is, this is a debate sub. So in this particular sub, it means TRP members who come are arguing in good faith, and TBP members come simply to troll. If i had to guess, there are an equal number of TRP and TBP members who are simply parroting what they have read regarding their ideology they lean towards without putting much thought int…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/15 07:45 PM
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I doubt you're a walking encyclopedia on libertariansism when you can't even begin to comprehend the opposing view of arguments. I doubt you've spent more then 5 minutes to consider why you believe what you believe. You didn't even address any of the points I made, instead just resorted to an ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 10:29 PM
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There is no hypocrisy. You're just too stupid to not realize that. If you believe life starts at conception, then that life trumps anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 10:17 PM
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First, so you don't instant dismiss me in your mind, I'm pro-choice. How is denying bodily autonomy not hypocrisy for a group that claims to support liberty? Because it's about the life of a human being they believe starts at conception. They believe that chumps whatever "bodily autonomy" a woman may have. And that whatever cut off date we currently have is arbitrary. Which of you know your law history and Roe v Wade, sort of is. Just because you refuse to see it that way doesn't make it go away…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 09:09 PM
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It's not hypocrisy. I think they both believe that life starts at conception. Not some arbitrary time after a few weeks or birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/15 08:38 PM
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it feels almost like an /r/conservative[1] post with the breitbart link. Speaking as a liberal, don't fall for the "it's conservative thus it must be wrong" fallacy. It's liberals that do that much more then conservatives. It's what so many publications tried to do with Gamergate. "Don't like my feminist views in you're videogames? Then you must be a conservative and are thus wrong" Not sure who said but I found this quote to be true. "Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think cons…
/r/TheRedPill12/05/15 05:59 PM
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Wanting fair pay More then enough info out there debunking the 77 cents wage gap myth abolishing shitty gender stereotypes Mostly negative stereotypes and keeping all the postives one that favor them. Ex:Most women still believe men should pay on a first date fair representation in politics/media Entirely the fault of women nowadays. Let's not even get into the fact that it's mostly media targeted at men they demand to be be abolished as part of "patriarchy" or gender switch characters instead o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/15 11:28 PM
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Lots of people hold feminist beliefs yet don't call themselves feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/15 12:08 PM
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There are a lot of "normal, balanced, self-actualized men with successes with women and careers" who held blatantly misogynistic biases about women. The majority of humanity that's ever lived even. There's a pretty good chance, if you have a historical figure that you admire, that he or she was a "misogynist" too. The great Buddha, Napoleon, Florence Nightengale, Nikola Tesla, Queen Victoria, Oscar Wilde, Tolstoy, and millions of others. Many more than even that but they're less documented. Coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 04:24 PM
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TRP is basically about traditional gender roles It's not. It's about what women respond to, which is general masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 02:28 PM
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This is scenario is a clear cut example of "watch what they do, not what they say". Everyone will agree that women have agency and should be just as culpable. That is until a real case pops up (likely next week) and suddenly everyone is making excuses for the girl and ready to lynch the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/15 02:23 PM
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Then I guess everyone in this thread is talking out of their ass. How about explaining the connection between the two then for us lowly and uneducated people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 05:47 PM
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sex is fucking easy to get Are you a man or woman? I've honestly never met any man that thought that man and women have anything close to equal difficultly getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 04:03 PM
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Not whats her p count? And what if those views conflict with what women want? What if to a large population to men, in addition to to personality, they are concerned about how many men she has been with. The same way a large population of women are concerned about how much money a man makes. Keep in mind men have been giving away sex for free for ages, maybe it time for men to start assessing a toll. That's a game men will lose. Did you watch the video of the very same guy you linked to. He says…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 02:52 PM
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IT locks men in to male role TRP follows whatever women respond to. If women take an interest in math geeks tomorrow, TRP will say to pick a up calculus book the day after. It's a numbers game for men. If being traditionally masculine decreases the number of rejections, that is what men will do. A) be fully human According to whom? It does nothing to solve and of the problems it complains about That's not what TRP is about. That concerns MRAs. adapts and reinforces problematic attitudes on the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 02:37 PM
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Because TRP isn't concerned about changing the system. It's about relationships with women. It doesn't complain, its merely to show the system is rigged in certain aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 02:24 PM
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I see, so you are going to ignore the gist of my argument. Let me type it out again and see if you will ignore it again. How does this video relate to TRP? Where are you getting "toxic" from the video. He brings up very little to relationships other then saying abusive boys growing up to be malfunctioning adults have not are good at maintaining healthy relationships. I also found this other video of him and would like your opinion on one part in particular. https://youtu.be/pdcAxZI5Qlg?t=328 Fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 02:15 PM
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I give zero fucks about you sex life. You brought this video up to oppose TRP by calling it "toxic". TRP is about sexual strategy, so that is what I'm basing my comment on. If you are basing it on caring for men, then what does TRP have to do with anything, considering the video says very little about relationships between men and women? TRP has very little concern for Men's Rights, other than to show how rigged the system is. Not that it doesn't care, just that it is a separate issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:58 PM
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This video doesn't relate at all to TRP, unless you think all RPs grew up in abusive households. It's 20 straight minutes of "Men who grow up in abusive households become malfunctioning adults". Anyone whose taken Psy 101 can tell you the same. Society compounds male abuse by ascribing men as hyper agents As you say in another comment, but I didn't hear him say anything of the sort. (or I missed it, as I was cooking breakfast). You say he is a MRA, but my impression after watching the video is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:42 PM
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or reject that role and be a sexual leper and all around loser? Progress and growth requires some pain So just be a leper until women decide they don't want or need someone with a more masculine mindset? Because in my experience, it's the guys who follow more traditional masculine mindsets that typically are in stronger stable relationships, or are hooking up more (exploring sexuality for you ladies) when they are younger. Not just my generation, but for guys both 10 years older and younger than…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:33 PM
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What makes you think it's good, particulary to how it relates to OP's post. I'm not sayin this isn't a good video, but it doesn't relate to TRP at all. It also seems rather rudimentary. Abusive upbringing for men (or women) leads to malfunctioning adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/15 01:25 PM
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Which happens to look remarkably like AFBB.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:06 PM
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When I hear Asian men, it was 1) My dating life was not great to normal 2) Older now and at about marrying age. Asian women who ignored Asian men before now pay me and my friends more attention. So many BP's conveniently leave out when lecturing Asian guys the fact that most people marry within race. Meaning the white guys Asian girls were dating are marrying white girls. Though White guy/Asian female is the largest interracial marriage group. I guess this leaves some Asian men wondering is she …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:25 PM
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Yup, and nine times out of ten, this leads to AFBB. Not for all women, but most.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:15 PM
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It's related The point being it doesn't matter who she fucked. She fucked someone and he would still be upset. It's not at all related. This has been an issue for Asian men long before TRP existed. It has nothing to do with the number of sexual partners. It has to do with Asian women seemingly going out of their way (intention or not) to not give Asian men a chance. You're changing the issue into one you know will get more sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:12 PM
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I call that a nonsense argument. Men and women change their preferences over the course of their lives, is my point. What's nonsense? I'm in agreement with you. What I'm saying is that for women, this leads to AFBB. .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 03:02 PM
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No I answered your only question, which was... Its a debate. I'd be retarded if everything had to be addressed as a question. So do you need me to rephrase everything for you to offer counterpoints? Now on to your own projection. You didn't state what that was. Nah, not at all what I'm saying. That's exactly what you're saying. If the relationship fails, it's because of his unjustified insecurities. That her past dating relationships decisions says nothing about what kind of person she is or how…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:41 PM
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What you want when you're 18 isn't necessarily anything like what you'll want when you're 25, Yup. TRP calls this AFBB. The fact that she'd only dated white guys probably has more to do with where she lived She lived in San Francisco. I shouldn't have to tell you SanFran has more then it's fair share of Asians. Asians are heavily consecrated on the either coast. And people of similar background, whether race, religion, or whathaveyou, generally live near each other. So that's rarely an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:17 PM
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Nice job avoiding every point I made. "I have no dog in this fight." isn't an excuse to lay a bunch of crap in a debate sub and then not defend your argument. If he marries her he will always resent her Again, your own bias is showing. I guess you honestly can't see it. Here's a hint. What you're saying is "women can make any decision and it says absolutely nothing about the type of person she was, is now, and most importantly, will be in the future. If the relationship fails, it's his fault. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:17 PM
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Would you be upset if it were only black guys? Why even bring up black people? It's more about excluding Asian guys as dating prospects rather then mostly dating white guys. Probably. You're jealous of white men and disgusted by black men? Unfairly assuming these Asian men are jealous of white men and disgusted by black men. You probably didn't think for one second these Asian women exclusively dated white men because they see white as higher value socially, and thus are more sexually attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 01:00 PM
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Thing is, I don't think that BP's would believe she was lying unless there was photographic proofand with her own grandma telling her husband she cheated Unless the OP had added that she had a box of condoms in her purse with two missing, I bet the top comment would still be "You should trust her". BP require extraordinary evidence to ever suspect a woman is at fault. Even then, the top comment TOOK AWAY HER AGENCY to imply they don't have a healthy relationship. Reverse the genders and every BP…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 10:14 PM
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If women respond positively to said abuse(it's not abuse), then who is to blame?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:38 PM
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his worries were about her being unfaithful, which didn't happen BP don't realize they are falling for the Women are Wonderful effect every time they believe a woman who claims to not have done something and there is no evidence. His wife can walk out of their bedroom closet naked with the two men, sweaty with a used condom on the floor, and as long as she claims nothing happened, then nothing happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:35 PM
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Nor is there a set consensus So everyone's a special snowflake? No two people hold practically identical views? If I asked you if I should buy flowers for my gf, will you tell me "some girls don't like flowers. Some are even allergic!"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 04:26 PM
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TRP hates nuance TRP is regressive, and is detrimental to men in the long term. Mind expanding on these two?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 04:04 PM
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How many of your female friends still hold onto that view?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:54 PM
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What are you're views on fiscal policy? Taxes, spending, and such?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:22 PM
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try to be physically attractive,charming ,confident and social Can't believe I never thought of that. Thank you /u/HappilySingleWoman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:27 PM
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When it comes to women, not matter what you've been told , most of them want kind man and a gentleman How much more specific do you want? If someone can't get laid doing the above, something is wrong with them. Ipso facto, all "nice guys" thus prove that they are/were not being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 07:24 PM
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I hold that a woman consciously trying to be a good person can end up living AF/BB without ever even knowing it. It happens precisely by living in the moment, and doing what feels good/right at the time. Exactly this. It was years ago, but I believe it was Joe Biden who said something akin to "Don't ever think you're opponent is doing something out of malice." In this way, it's very similar to politics. Your opponent may be doing something because they truly believe it or for selfish reasons, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 06:26 PM
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/u/abXcv said it best in that link. "Is she the kind of woman who wouldn't have looked twice at you 5-6 years ago?" Any guy marrying a girl who wouldn't have looked at him twice before a few years ago is setting himself up for deadbedrooms and an unhappy marriage. It doesn't matter what the female rationalization is or the reasons she did it. It's about self-respect. It's about not being a consolation prize. It's about the fact that she doesn't see you as a sexual being respective to her past fl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 06:18 PM
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Literally ZERO. You have no understanding of TRP whatsoever. Men are not alpha or beta. Behaviors are alpha or beta. The sweet spot for most women are for men to have a combination of alpha and beta traits. I.e someone that are attracted to and will provide for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 12:59 AM
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Plenty of arguments as to how TRP could be wrong, so why resort to lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 04:20 AM
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Your son will, and be happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 01:48 PM
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No true Scotsman. Don't bother replying to any of my posts. You're a troll. I thought we established that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 03:59 PM
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I was referring to why women would want to enter the manosphere. As for the rest, Men insult each other by describing others as feminine because it is usually the opposite of masculine. Not out of hatred for women. Tom girls get excluded just the same from women often times. You also don't know what your talking about when it comes to TRP. Most RPs if they got married would want a SAHM. What does child support/alimony have to do with feminine traits? Child support gets a bad rep for numerous rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 03:02 PM
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Not sure why you got down voted. You are only applying the same standards to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:49 PM
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The same argument can be said that women have numerous option to not get pregnant and thus outlaw abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:46 PM
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Then I take it you think all psychology and sociology studies are junk science because "all people are different". Edit: also why would women want to be part of the manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:40 PM
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What are you trying to say? It's not clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:32 PM
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The father has to pay, otherwise the government will in some capacity. That's part of the reason things are unlikely to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:31 PM
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women want to enter the manosphere Why would they want this? As for rejecting the feminine, that's entirely the fault of feminism. Men like feminine women. But feminist in their drive for equality set the baseline as masculine. Such as the desire for sex. Any scientific study will tell you that women desire sex less often then men(note I didn't say enjoy sex). But feminist say the exact opposite. Ironic really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 02:19 PM
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What areas would that be and what problems are they facing that men don't face?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 11:16 AM
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You are such a fucking troll, mate. How the fuck the mods haven't banned you is a wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:27 PM
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It's satire. Read the link. Edit: I get that you tuned out at Aryan, but I went out of my way to mention that this article was published in The Washington Journal in the post title and in the first sentence of the post. Plus the fact that this sub had nothing to do with Jews should have tipped you off that it's satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:21 AM
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Yeah, I think that's the guys name.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:18 AM
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It's satire. Read the link.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 02:16 AM
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Read the link.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 07:27 PM
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1) if anything, the average male actor is less attractive then the average female actor. This still didn't effect men's perspective of women, as they rated women in an almost perfect bell curve. If anything, this points makes women look worse, showing they are more suspectable to media influence. 2) again, improving pictures doesn't show much influence on mens perspective to much. Maybe if we had a close look at the data, we might see that the bell curse is skewed somewhat, placing an undue amou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 03:12 PM
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Well put. The problem is that 5,6,7/10 also mostly find only the top 20% attractive, mostly ignoring those on their level. At least when it comes to hooking up/ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 02:51 PM
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Part of the reason you're not hooking up with very attractive girls is because they sleep around much less often then below/slightly above attractive girls. Above attractive girls know they can enter relationships with above attractive guys when they want. They don't need to sleep with a guy on a first date, and if they do, they know he is a going to stick around. Average girls between 4-7 sleep around much more and with guys more attractive then themselves in the hopes they "have the magic puss…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 02:31 PM
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You'd think so, no? But never put it past BP's to not only negate any advantages women have, but to say they in fact have it worse. "You know how difficult putting on make up is? Or deciding which low cut dress to wear? They always and without fail conflate having easy access to sex with not being able to have sex with guys out their league. To them, a 5 not being able to sleep with a 7 or 8 is the same as a guy getting nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 12:39 AM
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I think I'm going to write a post soon asking BP'ers to list as many scientific peer reviewed papers in any field that paints women in a bad light and have men come out neutral/positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 06:39 PM
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There's a post right now on the front page where a guy knows that his wife goes to work at a hospital as a nurse with a bunch of guys that railed his wife. He actually says that he "won in the end because he put a baby in her". I wanted to ask if at the time she was in nursing school, would she even have given him the time or day? A shitload of guys got to fuck your wife while she was young and carefree and had an abundance of time and energy. Would she have given you a chance then? Now you both…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 01:07 AM
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It mostly applies if they have a history of sleeping with people more attractive then themselves, and its mostly in the long run. Not something they contemplate when walking down the isle. As for you second statement, did you sleep with people more much more attractive then yourself before meeting him? If not, it doesn't apply. If so... well...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 06:53 PM
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Yes it is. As I'm sure you know, there's a whole mess of reasons why we don't have accurate numbers on how large the gay community is. (On iphone, sources later) Fact of the matter is, it is likely less then 10% of the total population. And that's including the trans community. Let's not even get into the otherkin/pan-whathaveyou sexual community. Also, TRP is strictly straight men seeking straight women. There is a prominent gay commentator here, but frankly speaking, the opinion of gay men is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:44 PM
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This all but confirms Will_I'm_not is not someone worth responding to. How anyone can graduate from highschool and not know about Roe v Wade making abortions legal in every state is baffling. What other retarded things do they believe or are just ignorant of?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:17 PM
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TRP lives in this black and white world where men only like sex and nothing else. It's very much the opposite. I'd imagine most were men who wanted commitment, but just got jaded when dealing with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 05:50 PM
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No, you are wildly misinterpreting what you link to. I don't mean to talk down to you but there's a huge gulf between what you're saying and the links you're posting because you're not interested in understanding what's going on. You want to demonize feminists. I've seen the laundry list of MRA complaints. They don't understand their own issues. Highly recommend you post to askfeminists to sound more credible. Feminism is much more than more women in STEM- that's just the activism I do. I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:32 PM
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Easily 90% of RP's here give honest answers and are here for debate, and to have their views challenged in some way. I figure 20% of BP's can say the same thing. The rest are believe "eveyone is here to have some fun and talk shit to each other" or are trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 07:11 PM
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Just to be clear, you are only banning calling each other white knights right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:19 PM
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I doubt they'll change anything. I brought this up before about /u/strategicatomicmoose linking to TBP numerous times for posts only a few hours old and the mods pretty much just told me it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/15 06:17 PM
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The real rage inducing part was her sister hitting the buzzer and saying "No one want to hear that answer" when two seconds prior her husband very clearly says he wants to hear the answer.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/15 05:07 PM
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I said "hateful nerds" Hateful towards who? You meant women of course, just given the context of this post, the context of this sub, and the context of all the nerd bashing by feminist in the last few years. I have never heard anybody "on the left" say such a thing Just Google "nerds and myisogynist" you you will come up with a slew of articles by feminists in major publications claiming nerds are"hateful misogynists". Just look at any Gamergate article. Too lazy to Google. Here's what comes up …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 07:49 PM
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Being low SMV doesn't mean they are not nice. They were just told that being nice would be all it took.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 06:23 PM
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Because the extreme left is just as crazy as the extreme right. Even if I vehemently disagree a BP point, I take it at face value as something the poster believes. Though just like there are extreme right-wing idea's you won't even take the time to bother arguing with, there are extreme left-wing idea's of the same caliber. (I say that as someone left of center). On the left, it's that nerd's are misogynistic for X,Y, and Z. It can only mean that someone saying such a thing is mostly likely a tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 06:08 PM
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It's just they aren't so intimated by women as to be a pushover, supplicate, etc... Like you said in another post, it's mostly a feedback loop because he's attractive. I think the lengths women give attractive guys to be awkward is much greater then most people seem to realize. Women's hindsight is not taken into account to often as well. Looking back, the attractive guy was smooth and didn't make awkward pauses when in fact he did. While the unattractive "cute" guy had the same amount of awkwar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:45 PM
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"nice guys" i.e. entitled hateful nerds I don't even know why I come to this sub anymore. At least half the new BP's in this sub in the last couple months are clearly trolls. At least RP's give good faith responses even if they seem rather extreme. At this point there are only a handful of BP's I can think of that can give a BP response that I know are sincere, even if i vehemently disagree. The rest are clearly just thoughtless repeating talking points of Tumblr feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:29 PM
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Guys all over the world would kill if the only requirement to being attractive was their appearance. As most men will attest, not just RP's, they also have to carry the conversation, at least in the first approach and a while afterwords. One slip up or awkwardness and their out of the running.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:08 PM
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I also noticed that Boys X, Y, Z assumed that Boys A, B, C were all "assholes." When really, Boys A, B, C were all super chill and sweet (around us ladies at least). Now perhaps they were jerks to the guys. But the assumption that cute guys are jerks to gals is really overblown and not matching up with what really happens. You have to understand that the way the Boys A, B, and C treat and interact with you is exactly the way Boys X, Y, and Z were told not to treat women. And as /u/reginleifer sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/15 05:00 PM
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I think Hollywood struggles writing female characters because they have blue pill it up or something. To many feminist critics, it's either make a Mary Sue character or it's sexism. Carrie Mathison from Homeland got this same treatment. She almost exactly like a lot of anti-heroes in dramas on TV today, in that they have major character flaws that make them hard to root for. I.e Don Draper, Walter White, etc. So because they gave Carrie a weakness that hampers her from being an uber competent CI…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 06:59 PM
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I much prefer TRP hate articles by men. When women write them you know that when they say "I and other women hit on guys all the time" what they really mean is "I hit on three guys in my life. Usually just batting my eyelashes at the attractive guy across the room who has been throwing glaces at me". That's just the perspective they come from. When guys write them, it makes one wonder if they really drank the extra strong Kool Aid when they write "women hit on guys all the time and men shouldn't…
/r/TheRedPill29/01/15 04:30 PM
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I talk to her like she's a human being and not a walking vagina Can you tell me what the difference is? How does one talk to someone like they are a walking vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 05:25 PM
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Let me get this straight. You're in a debate sub between TBP and TRP. You are contesting a point that even most BP's are willing to admit to be true, but won't offer an actual counterargument beyond saying it's an empty talking point. I'm just going to mark you down as a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 08:27 PM
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Doll up, make some pictures and set up a profile at PoF or make an entry at Craigslist and you'll get loads of messages, not all of them from fakes or fuglies. Or just approach a guy of your choosing in a disco and say "wanna go home with me?" Or visit a swinger club, if you're inclined to do so. In fact, odds are that you'll score above your league. Seriously though, are you even going to attempt to refute it or just give another sarcastic remark?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 02:14 PM
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Let me guess, you thought the Cat Calling video released last month was a travesty and clearly shows all the daily harassment women go through, but at the same time say none of the guys hitting on these women would sleep with them. You are seriously delusional if you think the average guy and the average girl have equally difficult time getting laid. For women, it's just a matter of lowering their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 02:04 PM
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Exactly. She's not empowered, in keeping with his point in his article. She's just you're typical 22 yo who throws herself at athletes and considers it some sort of accomplishment. Meanwhile ignore the difference a typical normal 22 yo guy would have at even attempting to sleep with the hottest chicks on campus. Or at least that's how the feminist and the MSM tried to portray it. So we both agree, "Karen Owen is nothing more than a pretty normal 22 year old girl". Except I might add that in a fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 01:02 AM
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TBH, I tried looking for the feminist definition and got nothing. So I just take it to mean whatever feminist want it to to mean during their argument in order to win. E.g: "nice guys" who mean no harm and have no game and "nice guys" who are uber privileged and objectify women and are fake "nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/15 12:05 AM
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Yeah, the dawning realization that you've become the relic of a shameful history. That's it? Out of everything in Owens story and and Tucker Max's analysis, that's the best you can come up with? I'm not even going to bother refuting how idiotic the point you're trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/15 11:56 PM
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Admittedly, but it's more of a "this is how society is structured" then any call to action to change social structures or law. Go into any thread tagged as MR and you will usually see the top comment mentioning it has little or nothing to do with sexual strategy or self-improvement. More then a few in the sub would rather see that section gone entirely, but it does serve a purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 01:08 AM
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all have been carefully selected by Bradford’s team and an are-you-cool-enough algorithm There's no algorithm. It's her and her team looking for alphas. It's alpha's and (clearly) wealthy beta's only. All other singles have to wait in a virtual line and hope they’re top-notch enough to join All women can join.
/r/TheRedPill22/01/15 10:51 PM
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Exactly. This is obviously a response the the recent "Women are Children" post in /r/trp and hour or so ago. PPD needs to remember that anyone can post over at /r/trp/. In fact, I think this sub focuses to much of what is going on at /r/trp when TRP in is fact much larger outside of reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:36 PM
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You seem to be under the mistaken impression that TRP and the MHRM are one and the same. Complaining about the PussyPass is thoroughly in the realm of the MHRM and has nothing to do with TRP. TRP has no political positions whatsoever and does not advocate for any changes in U.S law.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 10:32 PM
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You're right, it's uneducated to ignore the data, I just don't give it much weight when used in arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 08:07 PM
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HAHA! Our local "personality researcher" always on the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 07:16 PM
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I think Dr. NL is actually instilling that fear into his readers. Take a look at his most popular post. My response to each and how it leads to nerds walking on eggs shells around women less they make them feel uncomfortable. His site does the exact opposite of instilling confidence in nerds and is mostly clickbait for feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 06:09 PM
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He knows where the money is. It's not from helping men. It's from getting linked to from feminist blogs as an "alternative" to PUA/TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:52 PM
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Not him, but I'm a minority (#NotYourShield), and I'd also say we aren't living a patriarchy. Nor do live in the racial equivalent of a patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:49 PM
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Recent, I found out I automatically discount any study that paints men in a negative light, especially in regards to matters of the brain. Mostly because studies that might paint women in a negative light either don't get funded or published. I figure the ratio of such studies has to be 10:1 easily. Regarding you're "I don't have sex with dudes like you", I'd also bet women respond more much positively to guys with this mindset then the nerds who spent a whole year reading Dr.Nerdlove for dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:44 PM
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Pop Third-Wavers really find nerds to be icky or a turnoff etc, and thus they hate nerds because they only care about the men they find attractive/gender-compliant-and-thus-useful. I don't think most of what you said can be limited to tumblerinas. I've seen more then a few articles by established feminists in major publications decrying the privilege and entitlement of nerds and men on the bottom rung. Just googling "Nerd Entitlement" brought a slew of articles on major sites. In other words, si…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:34 PM
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Some guys who are paranoid about offending women -- too paranoid to approach them -- don't comprehend what can make a guy appear creepy. They don't understand women's concerns. Often their concern is how the interaction will make him feel rather than her. That's a contradiction. These guys are paranoid because of the way he might make her feel. Just look at the titles of the articles again and tell me how a socially awkward guy won't only get more paranoid after reading them. "Nerds and Male Pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/15 05:11 PM
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Let's see what on the front page. "Nerds and Male Privilege – Nerds Behaving Badly" Clicked the obviously shitty post and see a link for the top 6 posts made on his blog. What are they you say? What's Really Wrong With Nice Guys - Entitlement, Nerds and Neanderthals Typical feminist argument about why girls don't like nerds/nice guys. "You're only nice to be for sex that's why I sleep with guys who are jerks to me to my face. What's Wrong With "Taking The Red Pill" Not even going to click on tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 06:05 PM
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OP, any chance you can have your friend come here and chat with us for a bit? I think it would make for a lively debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 04:20 AM
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When it comes to ONS, some women will go for whoever shows the most "masculine" traits, but that's not true for LTRs. Same with men. We'll go for the bombshell at the club, but then settle down with Susie who was in the same graduating class back in highschool. And TRP contends that this is not true. Average Amy fucks the alpha and thinks she's hot shit. The average guy has no chance with the hot chick unless he running super good game. Alpha fuck Average Amy simply become he can. (That's the te…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 03:47 AM
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The problem is that they see everything through an angry testosterone fueled lense so what they would consider a "privilege" is not necessarily one if you look at the other side of the fence. Would it be fair to say women see things through a estrogen "muh feelings" lens, and are unable to see things from a male point of view? They grew up with warped views about men and women and think that sex is something women give men as a reward for their behavior instead of realizing that women are also i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 08:38 PM
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In AWALT term, yes I would say so. Personality wise, my entire life experience shows me women are much more alike them men. It seems to me men are much wore willing, especially at a young age, to pursue hobbies and interests outside the norm of what is socially acceptable. I.e, to become geeks or nerds playing D&D or just a general interest in scholarly subjects. It seems to me women are much more rigid in making sure other women follow whatever may be in style or hip. Otherwise they are ostraci…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 11:12 PM
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How you managed to write such a saccharine comment without vomiting or with a "/s" tag is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 11:31 PM
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Yeah, I'm also eager to hear what our local "personality researcher" has to say on these findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/15 04:49 AM
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Because it turns sex into something she doesn't enjoy. That's a bullshit argument and you know it. I not even sure where the hell you could have pulled an argument like this from. How does it in any way lessen a woman's enjoyment of sex to trade it whathaveyou?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 02:50 AM
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So do you agree or disagree that that is the situation most people live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/15 02:47 AM
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/u/taiboworks HAHA obsoluntely not. He claims to be a "personality researcher", yet has no background in psychology whatsoever. Not to mentions he makes at least one post a day trying to pathologize RP's. Just last week he was arguing that men desiring women to almost any extent was mentally unhealthy. He'd be almost as bad as /u/strategicatomicmoose .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 11:03 PM
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I'm definitely of the former. It's Roosh who convinced be, with his post The Wall Is Softer Than We Think These men, while not in the elite like she could have had in the past, is still better than most men this woman could have gotten in her prime had she been born and raised in a man-poor country outside of the West. And because a woman’s rationalization mechanism is so strong, she will have no problems finding happiness at 35 after marrying the whipped beta that she can easily control, convin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 05:46 AM
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Before I even started reading or watching the video, my first thought was on how long it took to veer its focus to "helping women and achieving equality". Didn't see or read any of that, so it's a big plus so far. Second thought was the same as a youtuber, that it sounds like a gloried boot camp. Third, that it has nothing to do with sexual strategy, which is what TRP is mostly about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 05:35 AM
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This makes no sense there's a power dynamic between ages HAHA. I'm fucking dying over here. Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 11:04 PM
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My father hated women because he felt inadequate. His rationalization for his violent behaviour? He was too young to join the army and all of his brothers were praised as heroes when they came back from the war, and he hated his parents for refusing to let him join the army and for not lavishing attention on him. FOR REAL. (little wonder that I often compare my father to Hitler, they are so alike it's creepy). This is his rationalization. Daddy and mommy didn't pay enough attention to me so now …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:36 AM
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2.9 percent — too high but nowhere near 20 percent 'reported rapes' figure is nowhere near the 'actual rapes' figure If there is literally 10 times as many rape victims that are not coming forward, that's their problem. Getting rid of due process is not the solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/14 04:06 AM
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Just as culpable. There are no statistics as far I as know, but from my own life experiences, I figure 2/3 of fathers with single mothers didn't want to have the child. Whether they confided in me secretly or it was it open secret that the father didn't want to keep the child and tried to convince the mother to have an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/14 03:25 AM
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No, because it shows she's a poor judge of character and is generally bad at decision making.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 09:00 PM
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Just as culpable. There are no statistics as far I as know, but from my own life experiences, I figure 2/3 of fathers with single mothers didn't want to have the child. Whether they confided in my secretly or it was it open secret that the father didn't want to keep the child and tried to convince the mother to have an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:58 PM
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A woman who ends a relationship with the father of her children for any reason Doesn't that say something about the women who chose the man to be the father of her children? of how the children grow up As outlined here, there are numerous reasons I have little empathy for single mothers. First, you have a child. This means it's a packaged deal. The child will always come first. A good thing really, but most men would rather rather come first unless its their own child. I wholly believe most men …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 08:33 PM
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Suicide, male suicides in particular, are rare enough that I doubt it effects the rates of single mothers by any large amount. If I had to guess rates of suicide probably drop for both sexes once they become parents. I can't find the figures for that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:41 PM
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I forgot I really have to qualify my comments or BPers will take everything as absolute truths I believe. It's not that I zero empathy for single mothers. That wouldn't be possible unless I was a sociopath who feels no empathy for anyone. What I mean is, if you can imagine every cataegory or group for the human species I feel empathy for, the list would look like the following, in which single mothers come dead last. ... KKK Radical Feminist Single Mothers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:31 PM
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I see it no different then caring more about my fellow countrymen then people living in some third world country. Reading comprehension. At the end of the day, children of single mothers are worse off on nearly every scientific metric of living a decent life. More likely to drop out of HS/college, lower test scores, work low wage jobs, have health problems, shitty relationships, and of course to become single mothers or abondon a child. As for TRP and having empathy for single mothers, others ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 07:07 PM
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I see it no different then caring more about my fellow countrymen then people living in some third world country. In-group/Out-group bias and all those other psychological terms everyone is susceptible to. When it comes to single women, there is everything I have seen in my life and a whole host of RP reasons that came later. Almost every single mother I have met in life have been nothing but drains on society, who raised numerous children to continue the cycle. Again, this is before finding TRP…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:49 PM
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Mind explaining which part and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:43 PM
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Yes, although I must say I feel much more empathy for men then women, particularity women in abusive relationships or single mothers. Actually, I can't say I have any empathy for single mothers unless the father died.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 06:28 PM
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It's not that the SMV10 guy is is keeping a hoard of 5's, it's that he fucks them when tired of stupid shit from the 8-10's chicks, or drunk at a party, or just because he can. Suddenly the SMV5 girl thinks she's hot shit. Often times, it's just he keeps the SMV5-6 girl as a booty call or side chick who'll be more then happy to come over right away on a Tuesday night. What TRP calls soft harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 04:14 PM
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Imagine going to the most elite college in the world, in the richest and most powerful nation possibly to ever exist, and having the most freedom ever to do what you want with your life without repercussions or judgement, and then using that opportunity to spend four years studying how oppressed you are, a white woman.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 02:53 PM
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Not even remotely close. TRP doesn't say to fuck anything that moves. It's more that you know what you want and you should do what it takes to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:23 AM
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I think this is mainly an extension of the argument that men show no preference or self-interest when it comes to women. Remember that the women writing these counter articles believe even morbidly obese women that identifies as other-sexual should have just as many options when it comes to men as the skinny blonde.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 11:09 PM
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Exactly. Take for instance if the Communist Leader of China came to Washington and said that we value freedom of speech to much and should censor groups like the KKK or people who openly talk of separating for the U.S. It's all talk, meant to look tough at home and knowing a 5 min speech will change nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:56 PM
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I don't mind 'crude talk' at all. I mind it when they use it as an excuse for when people call them out on it. This really makes no sense at all. Two people are having a private conversation and when what they say upsets you, you think them saying it's a private conversation is not a valid excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:24 PM
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Yes, but the victim is whoever reports it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 07:57 PM
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I claim that the opposition to TRP expect males to continue cooperating when they are in (or perceive themselves to be in) an environment where a significant portion of the females are defecting. In this light it seems that the traditional approach to relationships, while not perfect, was an attempt at cooperation that was satisfactory to both men and women. And that in recent years we have moved away from this set of behaviors. The society is in state of defection, and TRP is the natural respon…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 03:59 AM
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it's not very independent, free thinking. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You can't make this shit up. Pathologizing the desire to be in a group? I mean, really? If the employers of a "personality researcher" heard their employee say something like this, they would be fired on the spot for incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:14 PM
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I love how even the anti-RP posters of CMV utterly destroyed the non sense of calling RPs psychopaths. I bet the OP went in there expecting to create another EMSK post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 05:07 PM
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you hijack common advice such as exercising or eating right. That's garbage. We just put exercising and and eating right as the #1 priority. We just emphasize it much more then typical advice given to men struggling when dating. People, online or off, will put it in the middle or even last in the things a guy needs to do to change his situation. Getting rid of fat, putting on muscle, and the psychological benefits from exercising all give a boost in confidence that will do more for guys then alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 04:45 PM
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So let me get this straight. You have no actual schooling in psychology? You know full well you are misleading people into thinking you are at least a grad student, if not a doctor in psychology, when you say you are a "personality researcher" and are clearly attempting to psychoanalyze posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 04:16 PM
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It's easy to easy why no one takes psychology seriously as a scientific discipline. People like you give it a bad name. No, not because you're BP, but because you're you think you can know people from what they post on a forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/14 03:59 PM
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Women have Hypoagency. The belief that women aren't actors in their own lives,they are simply acted upon. However this only applies to negative situations that don't benefit women.If a women has an abortion she is afforded agency as someone who is able to make decisions independently, however if she robs a bank with a male accomplice then obviously he threatened her or "tricked" her into doing it and so she gets a light sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 04:46 AM
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What I don't really understand is the American definition of "dating". Well I guess that explains it. I don't think it's either RP or BP to say most American women who dated you in this period would find anything memorable about it. You would just be that asshole they dated back in November/December who unceremoniously dumped them/cut contact. Not even worth bringing up as a past boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 05:30 AM
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So I went on a few dates with each of them Only a dew dates? And you didn't even make out with them, except for one. I hardly call that evil. Not even close. Those girls will have forgotten all about you after a month or so. If you had entered weeks or even months long relationships, playing the BB, then I could see what you did effecting them. Especially if you made it clear during the break-up that you saw them as nothing but easy post wall chicks worthy of only pumping and dumping, which you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 02:31 AM
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Only in the USA where homophobia is absolutely rampant and "faggot" is still a commonly used insult. ...Ok. The following questions are just a ramble of questions that popped into my head. I'm just interested how far you think men and women are identical in every way; and that it's possible to create a society fully 50/50 without technology or changing our bodies. Do or don't answer any, I'm sure you're sick of all my questions by now anyways. So do you think the XY chromosomes has no effect on …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:43 PM
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Come on. What could he say besides "You go girl!" that you wouldn't say was borderline victim blaming? His question seems like a normal follow up question when someone does something illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 09:15 PM
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I know far more women that would be 'unicorns' in the RP view than 'sluts'. I highly doubt this is true. You're a guy, which means you are not privy to all the shit these women are down to when you are not around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 04:58 AM
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This has done more to change my view on TRP then everything else you've written in this post. Not much of course, if at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 07:07 AM
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ITs been known for decades that there is a scale of human sexuality and most people lie between the two extremes Perhaps for women, but men are much more likely to view themselves as fully one or the other. The reason I brought sexuality up is because it is still a function of what sex you are. Most people, a large majority in fact and especially men, consider themselves heterosexual. So if the chromosome can determine the sex you want to be with more then 90% of the time, isn't it possible for …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 06:29 PM
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you'll still be able to use much more advanced hormonal treatments to gain the secondary sex characteristics you want. Lol. Suddenly those 4chan memes of living in a feminist society with forced hormone treatments in the name of equality doesn't seem so far fetched. Back on topic. Even with my limited understanding of biology, I'm fairly certain changing sex chromosomes, and thus large chunks of your DNA, will be damn near impossible for a long time, if it's possible at all. But, just two more q…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 03:27 PM
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Hm. A large portion of men are not chosen or aware of when women go out to expressly sleep with someone. That's reminds me of something. Oh right, 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 04:02 AM
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That would work if women rated men on a bell curve. According to OkCupid: Men rated women on an almost perfect bell curve. The average was 5 and the rest was evenly distributed on either side. Women rate 80% of men as unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 05:06 PM
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The usual checklist TRP brings up, and that we're all familiar with. There's no need to rehash. Check the /r/TheRedPill sidebar if you're still unsure what they are. No they can't. TRP might grow and some of it's ideas might reach the minds of more men, but society and the feminist push to make society androgynous will continue on. At that point, the 80/20 will be set in stone, and men everywhere we be conditioned to be more than happy to be the Beta Bux for women. I'd sooner see civilization cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 04:57 PM
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Gender will be optional medical/technological experimentation Let's just ignore the fact that people can't change one of their chromosomes. Let's also say, however unlikely, we ban all medical/technological experimentation in the future. That means no designer babies that are all 6'2 and with perfect facial symmetry. Yet feminist are successful in pushing people to be as androgynous as possible, but only socially, not through technology. Do you still believe that men and women will be completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 08:38 PM
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Not really sure what to say to that, so I'll ask a few questions. Do you think men and women are completely identical in every way, physiologically and psychologically? Do you think that a few centuries from now, men and women will be indistinguishable from one other? Do you think their will be equal representation across all professions? Not just in high end fields, but in low end such as janitors or lumberjacks? Do you think the burden of pregnancy had no influence in the psychology of women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 06:10 PM
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Did you read the comment of /u/FollowThisAdvice, the person I was quoting? If negative social consequences to female promiscuity decrease (less shaming), women dont need to be as picky who they fuck. Women as a "gatekeeper to sex" is SOLELY a result of social pressure on women not to be promiscuous. Her comment is right below yours. More or less yes -/u/FollowThisAdvice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 05:58 PM
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In fact, read classical texts, anything right up until about the 15th century / renaissance, and believe it or not women were also consistently portrayed as the more libidenous sex! So? That's how they are portrayed in texts, not how they actually acted in real life. The same was said of black people. It is just a form of describing women and minorities as lesser evolved and prone to give into their animal instincts. Testosterone is one tiny factor in female libedo, not the determinant one. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 01:13 AM
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After this age, men usually will have established themselves enough to be irresistibly attractive to most of the women in that age bracket. For this part, I disagree. Do you disagree that women have an easier time getting laid? I hate qualifying, but just so we're clear. She doesn't have to find most of the guys sexually attractive, just average or an equal to whereever she falls in the 1-10 scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 07:01 PM
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You get what you incentivize This is one of the posts that turned me RP. Only the most delusional feminists think that the Computer Science major is getting as much sex as the random frat guy or random player on any sports team. It really highlights the bullshit when women say men have to change and yet they keep rewarding the bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 06:02 PM
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Traditional gender-role conservatives will die off as a movement. You would be right if TRP was about maintaining tradition gender roles for it's own sake, which it is not. You clearly just outed yourself as knowing very little about TRP. In short, TRP is about sexual strategy. If women decide the D&D geek is the new hot shit for a ONS tomorrow on Tuesday, TRP will say to pick up a D&D strategy book on Wednesday. Legal rights will become equal across the board Mind telling me of these rights tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 05:49 PM
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The distinction between attraction and arousal is something I see getting a lot of play and discussion in the future in TRP/manosphere. Currently, attraction is pretty much used synonymously with arousal when they are quite different. What you experienced is something a lot of men will grow conscious of. They will learn the differences between the two terms through time, maybe by osmosis. She found her previous boyfriends sexually arousing and she finds beta's attractive. Attractive because of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 04:45 PM
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who we all think are horrible No, who you and BPers think are horrible. RP thinks they are the unfortunate byproducts of feminist ideas on how to attract women. I'm guessing you probably think they all view women as walking vaginas when that couldn't be farthest from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 10:54 AM
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Personally, I think there's way to much talk about women for a Mens Conference It's not the least bit surprising. NPR did a whole series last summer about men called "Men in America" that seem to focus more on how men should defer to women. Pretty much just shaming anything masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 06:14 PM
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Mind explaining how? Because I don't want to get cuckolded? I don't want my wife fucking other men? Because if I have children, I would want them to be mine? Or are you sorry that I hold a view you think means I want to "control women's sexuality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 03:54 AM
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Are there actually laws on the books saying single men can't adopt? Do any adoption agencies have rules saying the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 11:55 PM
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I would rather be a father of 3 kids, one of them biologically mine, two cuckolds or adopted (like Roman emperors found it normal to adopt) and live a good stable life and not inquire much into what wife does once a week on a girls night out, and never have sex, than to be an independent alpha who fucks my wife but lives alone. This is cuckoldry. It almost makes me sick reading it. To think this reasoning is growing among men and perpetuated by feminism makes me want to reach for a bucket. I mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:21 PM
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Gender: Men and women are the same gender, and what we think of as women are really just lesser males with micro penises. Lol. What? Mind expanding on that a bit, because that just seems batshit to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 04:26 AM
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Fuck STEM parity and the people pushing it. I'll never agree with them unless they also say we should have an equal number of women as construction workers, garbage men, lumberjackers, truckers, etc. They just want women in STEM because it prestigious and well paid. Let's not forget the fact that quite a few of these women taking these rare spots in these tough to get in schools end up taking the mommy track and working part-time, or just flat out stop working after graduation to become a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/14 04:22 PM
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This American Life did a podcast a few years ago about a couple, both 30 years ago and who have been together since they were 18 in college. A rock solid relationship that's the envy of all their friends. Shortly after both turned 30, he brings up the possibility of marriage. Her reply? And then she said, well, I think that before we get married, we should probably sleep with other people. He says sure, sounds like a good idea and it "made sense to me". I think this is pretty solid evidence of p…
/r/TheRedPill14/11/14 07:26 PM
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Because men want more than just sex, believe it or not. But we're only talking about sex and the disparity between the genders in the desire for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 03:36 AM
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The use of "Patriarchy" in the abstract says a lot about this study for starters. In the study reported here, data from implicit and behavioral choice measures did not support sexual economics theory’s (SET’s) central tenet that women view female sexuality as a commodity. Women don't view themselves as whores. What a surprise. That is, men were more likely to suppress female sexuality because they resisted female empowerment Lol. Seriously though, it doesn't matter how women view their sexuality…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 03:30 AM
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The woman he married rejected him in college, they reconnected after she got divorced in her early thirties. He considers this a success at getting out of the friendzone. Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 04:37 AM
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Women would finally be valued solely for their personality, ambition, fun-to-be-aroundness and other personality traits. I think women tend to have shittier personalities then men, though mostly because of nurture then nature. Like women themselves say, they are taught to get their validation and self worth from their sexuality. One consequence of this that many average to above average girls never develop a deep one or are shallow. Why bother picking up hobbies or being genuinely funny when eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 04:46 PM
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Women Lose Ambition Once They Get To Work http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2014/11/04/women-lose-ambition-once-they-get-to-work/ Despite the conventional wisdom, marital and parental status have nothing to do with women’s aspirations, says the report’s co-author, Bain partner Julie Coffman. The marriage and children stats are the same for the women who want to get ahead as for those who don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 04:35 PM
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TRP does not even have the slightest coherent inkling of a theory about what will help society flourish. Maybe because TRP could give two shits of how to improve society or help it flourish. You might as well ask what their position is on global warming.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 01:52 AM
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If I were an angry maybe autistic youth male No one wants to marry Chris Brown You really just need to stop. Add in the word semantics of alpha and beta and it becomes clear you don't know the basics of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 01:41 AM
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No, I don't advocate it because it hurts another human being. Same with stealing. If both became legal tomorrow, I still wouldn't do either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 12:03 AM
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Yes. How else could I word it so BPers understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 04:35 PM
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So would you say it would be acceptable for women to characterize men, collectively, as immature, sub human and evil? What women do is their prerogative. Plus, isn't that was feminism does anyway with their "toxic masculinity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 03:55 PM
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We cannot be shamed, we cannot be guilt tripped, we take no prisoners. We will get ours at the expense of yours. That's just how it has to be. Not gonna lie, it's mine to. EDIT: Well his name is FullRedvolution. Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 03:46 PM
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Red Pill Philosophy advocates for the abuse of women on the basis that they are inherently abusive I wouldn't describe much of what women do as abusive. I think it's just human nature/the way women are brought up. Men are then told not to respond in kind and held to a higher standard. In a way, TRP is saying to men they don't have to have take the high road because the other side isn't. Everything that follows after that is up to the each individual man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 03:42 PM
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I don't really care what you think is shitty. My happiness is all that matters. I think BPers would be much less argumentative and understanding with RPs if they said this before every comment. TRP does not in any way promote physical abuse. Emotional abuse though is much harder to define and requires context much of the time. Ultimately, it comes down to a spectrum and where your beliefs fall on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 03:25 PM
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In my opinion yes. Im sure there are some TRP who would suggest TRP is more a tool to assist men cope with the real world and adjust to....better deal with women? Like, as a self improvement tool. I do not agree with this. I find it back-peddling apologism I don't see why it can't be both. Like you said "sexual marketplace really became a free-for-all" in the 90's for women and men were still being told to play as if it were the 1940's.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 02:47 PM
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...what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 01:22 PM
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It wasn't something I could easily believe. That is until you see how much hate guys get when they try to increase their chances with women beyond "being themselves".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 05:10 AM
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To me it just seems like the same rehashed complaint that women are going for the "alpha" types when younger Because it is. The difference is that it is very black and white (no pun intended), with little ambiguity. White guys are seen as having higher status then other races, particularly to Asian/Indian men. So when Asian/Indian women spend their 20's fucking around with white guys, there is no hiding the fact that they are going for lower status guys and want to settle down. Asian/Indian guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 12:17 AM
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they "sample" many different types of women but at the end of the day settle down with someone they view as a good wife and mother You should probably browse the sub for a bit before you start making up bullshit to win an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 12:03 AM
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This still holds true in places where there are more, because East Asians/Indians are still a minority except for certain small parts of America. Unless they are living in a fly-over state, this is mostly bullshit. Like many other races or nationalities, Asians tend to congregate. Unless the OP of a story says they grew up in a secluded suburb with only a few others of the same race/nationality, it's safe to assume they were surrounded with people of similar background.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 11:53 PM
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There's a very important part OP left out. It's that these Asian women dated almost exclusively outside their race until they were looking to settle down. Now, how is it bullshit? Asian/Indian guys have a notoriously more difficult time dating outside they race. Just taking a look at the OK Cupid analysis, white guys are open to pretty much any race, and white girls are the least likely to date outside their race. Add to the fact Asian men were seen as some of the least attractive, or at least h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 11:42 PM
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The logical fallacies and mental gymnastics of some of the posters Which fallacies do you think the posters succumb to?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/14 07:26 PM
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If they were good men who suffered years of rejection, why would they want to go back to being good men? They are getting what they want now. They will go back to being "good men" when women want good men. If women now sleep with these RP men, they are getting what they want. A RP man. Whether that's good or bad for them doesn't matter. They are grown adults. By your logic, women need good men but reject them for bad men and then complain there are no good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 07:47 PM
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To be fair, French judges say men can't have paternity test of their children. So it was already half believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 09:23 PM
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Come the fuck on dude. You know they can just remove the NP and brigade like they have before. This should honestly be a bannable offense. Especially because you are subbed here and in a live thread. It's not just a random BP looking for a laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 03:40 PM
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However, quite a bunch of people even in here are still in denial when I (or other redpillers) point out how pervasive feminist ideas have become (up to the point that even people who don't describe themselves as feminists hold them). Exactly. The growth and influence of TRP is better judged on how mainstream its ideas become rather the number of people calling themselves RP. Very few people call themselves feminist, yet no one can deny the social and political power they wield.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 03:27 PM
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I suspect that the growth will slow down considerably in the next year or so. Like feminism, I consider it's growth to be better judged by how its ideas are incorporated into the mainstream, rather then how many people may call themselves RP or feminist. Not a whole not of people call themselves feminist or even respect them, yet many of its ideas and goals regarding women or women's issues have successfully infiltrated the mainstream and are not considered feminist ideas anymore. Take for examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 03:06 PM
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I like how you didn't address the point OP and I were making. FuckForget the language. For all his sister's talk of feminism and guys needing to treat women with respect and as equals, she was dating the bad boys. Do you not realize I was only semi-joking that she, a feminist, likely dismissed these guys as "fake niceness is not real niceness"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 06:19 PM
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You're teacher told you the way you did it was wrong because it won't always work. Especially when you move on to higher level math. Most people end up in some form of LTR. You can choose to go about it by being outgoing or wait for the girl to get off the CC. Either way, both end up in the same place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 05:17 PM
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also no healthy female (or male) is going to have anything to do with someone that says things like "never hooked up with a pussy pedestalizer". Doesn't matter how you word it. His sister still hooked up with the bad boy types and not the guys that have a feminist mind set. Oh wait, those won't guys who believe in equality and feminism. They were "Nice Guys" who were only nice to her to get in her pants. Disregard what I said earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 05:13 PM
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Wow, you know nothing of these people or their history yet seem certain they are "selfish covert narcissistic asses" and "never cared about anyone". Let me guess, you think "nice guys" and "friendship tokens" are an actually thing? That they prove they don't care about women when the girl they like only offers friendship instead of anything romantic, and turn the offer down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 04:42 PM
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they aspire to be like that (more antisocial/sociopathic) They aspire to be less BluePill then they were before. Less empathetic or concerned with others needs. To put their needs first for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 01:29 PM
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Honest question. What do you think of the website 4chan?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/14 12:22 PM
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I saw that post by Gawker in the archive. I say we don't get involved. To much irrational hate towards TRP to make it worthwhile. Doesn't even mention the manosphere specifically, but the various chan communities. Don't get the manosphere involved in a discussion that's meant to be about journalistic integrity.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/14 01:14 AM
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You use these tactics to get attention under the thought process that "all PR is good PR." The wording of TRP is to prevent any discussion of compromise to become politically correct. To become politically correct would make TRP useless. I doubt you'll find many RPers who disagree it can take extreme forms, but it's better to exclude people who are too sensitive then to lose then to lose the meaning of the TRP. Take responsibility for the actions of your movement. Don't be surprised when people …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/14 07:04 PM
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I'm not sure how, but I think a better job could be done presenting a more appropriate face to the outside world I am thoroughly against this. I think there are to many aspects at the heart of what makes the TRP work that are simply impossible to make acceptable to the general public. Take for instance the "hamster" you disagree with. It's a core part of TRP and would undoubtedly be one of the first things purged in order to make a more appropriate face. After the purge, the advice would be iden…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/14 12:35 AM
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I like how you didn't mention which Pill, so it can be easily applied to either depending on reader leanings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 12:45 PM
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but it's a far cry from a world where all men have been stripped of all social power. No, but the small percentage of men at the very bottom will only grow. I don't understand how open relationships would help most men. It won't. That's why I said in a perverted sense. The men will be able to say that they are in a relationship. He will take her out to eat and a movie. Then drop her off at the alphas place. Maybe she'll give him a handy before she leaves. If women do not need men for anything Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 03:08 AM
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If we engineered society so that 80% of men were forced into omega-pariah status, we would be forcing a lot of healthy, vital males into suicidal shame spirals There are more omega males now then there have ever been. Doesn't change the fact that violence has been falling decade after decade for some time now. Society will come up with a way to deal with them before shit hits the fan. This is through Open Relationships. Its even possible that open relationships will help these men in a perverted…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 02:34 AM
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http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/14/every-woman-needs-a-gaggle-of-men/ HAHA! This is pretty much exactly what I meant. I imagine we will be seeing more articles like this in a few short years on front pages of various sites. In a generation or so, college girls and beta feminist men will be advocating for such an arrangement. Only saying it's all an open relationship and they too can have multiple partners to sleep with. Of course we and they know that it won't turn out that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 02:18 AM
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Massive rape? Redistribution of wealth? From women to men? Not in a million years. men may simply drop out of society, forsaking careers, education, and resource hoarding and just not give a shit MGTOW would see a rise, but that would likely be offset by the rise of a new relationship paradigm: Open Relationships. I.e Women and society telling men that it's great to be in a open relationship. So women get a a round of orbiters while she and other women maintain sexual relationships with a small …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 01:29 AM
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I think both scenarios You think if women made more money that marriage rates would increase? I don't doubt that men would be willing to marry for money, I just don't think the average woman making more would be willing to marry the average man making less.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 01:05 AM
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otherwise I would expect to see rape and Elliot Rogersesque violent outburst occur with alarming frequency I doubt this would be the outcome honestly. I think the shit men are willing to put up with when it comes to women is much higher then users of TRP think. Will there be an uptick? Sure, but only among those already very susceptible to commit acts of mass violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 01:01 AM
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Couldn't agree more that if women made 150% of what men made, marriage rates would plummet. I go so far as to predict that women would stop dating a large portion of men, and instead only pursue those that they found most attractive. Yes, even women who are well into their 30's or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 12:15 AM
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If, magically, a giant wage gap appeared, marriage rates would increase I would bet that domestic violence, unhappiness within marriages, and other such things would follow In which scenario? Men making more or women making more? Do you think the current wage gap, which is much smaller then the 77% so often repeated, actually creates coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 12:07 AM
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(come on, don't tell me at least half of those "field reports" aren't made up) I'm almost certain upwards of 90% are bullshit or exaggerated beyond belief of what exactly happened. I could tell that back when the sub was 1/5 the size and much less notorious. The few I do skim I use as an example of what I could do or say in a similar situation, without looking like an idiot or asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 05:10 PM
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Which girl? I've been told that girls are replaceable, fungible, and in plentiful supply (except for losers). Do you disagree with this position? The girls that are good for a LTR. They are in much shorter supply. How did you get from one to the other? Wouldn't this sort of extreme example, including things that aren't relevant, normally be called a straw man? It may not take months, but the guy would at least committing several weeks on something that is not likely to work out. I'll do somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 03:51 AM
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Oh, is that a waste? Yes it is. If a RPer is looking for a LTR and possibly marriage, he'd be wasting time giving every woman the benefit of the doubt. We don't have an infinite amount of time. I'd assume he would be completely monogamous as well. Spending months on a single woman and getting to know her, knowing full well she is a compulsive shopper and in massive debt, or a former drug user, or whathaveyou would be a waste of time. By the time he ended things with them, in all likely hood the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 03:17 AM
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You have no idea what the painting is until you study it thoroughly Imagine there was a big flashing red sign before entering the room that said the painter of this painting is 16 years old. Next to it are a row of rooms that says the painter ages range from 14 to 65. You are only give 30 minutes (on this Earth) to judge a painting to see if it may be worth anything. Would you really waste several minutes scrutinizing the paintings of anyone under the age of 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 01:51 AM
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RPers take partner count as an indicator more seriously than getting to know someone's character through sharing some of their lives together So what you're saying is RPers should waste months of time, energy, and resources getting to know an individual woman. if someone is judging my character by using my stats to associate me to some average group rather than getting to know me There's something about this that to me says "I'm a special snowflake and unlike women who are similar to me". If a R…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/14 01:40 AM
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Doesn't change the fact that Beta's outnumber Alphas 8 to 1, maybe even 9 to 1. Unless she was a sorority slut girl who scoffed at the idea of hanging out with betas even as a friend, she must have met plenty. It doesn't change the fact that she only came to the revelation of loving betas until she was in her mid twenties and the alphas she dated weren't good LTR material. A key point of RP and AFBB and the female mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 07:12 PM
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Yup. I asked her if she didn't have any beta male friends, or was she perpetually surrounded by guys who fit the alpha stereotype. Did she not realize she was attracted to the beta types and behaviors before she wanted to settle down?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 06:14 PM
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You didn't have any male friends who didn't fit the alpha stereotype? You were never approached by your male beta friends? You never thought while hanging out with these male beta friends that you were in fact sexually and romantically attracted to them and not the alpha with his arms around you? Knowing nothing else about you, can you really blame TRP for saying you were not a bystander in your dating life before meeting you husband or are you going to argue you lack any agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 02:34 AM
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And it may still fit. Young, naïve women may be more interested in volatile rollercoaster relationships because they are inexperienced. Then the woman in the OP you quoted can't say she just found out she was attracted to Betas now that she's post wall. In all her years of dating, she must have been approached by several men and close males friends who are exactly what she was looking for, yet now that she's post wall she comes to the realization (hamster) that what she was always attracted to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 02:05 AM
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She absolves herself of any responsibility by saying that alphas were the only only she paid attention to that hit on her, so she she ended up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 01:36 AM
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How is that textbook? Because you said you didn't see a future with the alpha. Like RP says, women only see them good in the short term. Long term they go for beta's. Exactly what you did. Do you really not see that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 01:21 AM
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RedPill doesn't care how you feel now. All they care about is the decisions you made. By your own admission, disregarding every reason you give, you never hooked up with anyone but alphas. Now at age 25, you come to PPD saying you are with a Beta. If that's not textbook AFBB, I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 01:15 AM
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Look at it from the RP perspective. Your post can be summed up as "I am very good looking and hooked up with a bunch of alphas. Now I'm close to hitting the wall and with a beta. I just found out I always wanted betas. I'm a special snowflake."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 01:09 AM
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If you want people to take your comment seriously, write in complete sentences and use proper punctuation. I made it two paragraphs before I could no longer take your point seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 02:50 PM
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No problem. I'd been meaning to do the math showing how the average may be the same but the distribution between the sexes can vary widely. You put it much more succinctly than I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/14 03:54 PM
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Take a man and a women, both 25 years old and working minimum wage jobs. The woman for the past decade was to lazy/ lacked the social awareness and skills needed to go to school or get a decent job. The man meanwhile was dealing drugs, fired from numerous shitty jobs, and has a record for minor offenses. The woman thinks it's time to change things around and decides to go to school and graduates with a bachelors in business at 30. The man meanwhile, after many years of playing the lottery and lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/14 03:44 PM
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No way to tell for sure of course, short of asking everyone in a major city who they slept with and creating a map. But we do know for a fact that we have more female ancestors then male ancestors. I'm not going to say it has been the same for the modern era for the past couple millennia or modern years of course. Ignoring EvoPsy though and just looking at modern society, you also have to account for the fact that men are much less selective then women and have a higher sex drive. Until it comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/14 03:16 PM
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Not Modern Family. He is literally Beta Bucks. I remember how they were talking about his wife and how she had a wild past but she settled for him and how they portrayed it has him winning.
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 07:09 PM
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Malcolm in the Middle perhaps marked the first post-modern sitcom. It had a grittier, more cynical view of the family, and furthered the alpha-mom / weak father stereotype. Not cynical, but realistic view of the modern family. Also, both Hal and Lois were both portrayed as working tirelessly to provide for their low-middleclass family. Remember that they were raising four very troublesome kids. Often the reason the the role of the punish-er fell to Lois is because Hal loved his boys too much and…
/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 07:03 PM
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Is your actual point that "women feel no guilt"? No, it's that they don't change because they realize they made a mistake or are doing something wrong, they change because there are not enough of the men they want to go around. They don't actually learn anything. If she could, she would just marry one of the guys she was fucking if he would commit to her. What the average woman in terms of attractiveness learns, if anything at all, is the super attractive guys who would occasionally fuck her or …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 04:53 AM
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Without hard numbers, it's all conjecture. One study I saw said that women and men both tended to have about the same number of partners over a lifetime. True, but the distribution of partners of wholly uneven. I.e men at the top have a whole lot more partners then those at the bottom. The gap isn't as wide for women. I'm going to copy a comment from /u/AFormidableContender that explains how the number of partners don't have to be equal for both genders. EDIT: Ok, so here...I wrote out a small a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 03:46 AM
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I find RP's claims of single mothers doomed to spinsterhood to be greatly exaggerated. They don't say they will end up alone. They say that anyone for marries a single mother is beta bucks, no two ways to look at it. In fact, RP says society encourages men to "man up" and and go so far as to take care of another man's baby if his SO were to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 03:29 AM
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Men change because they realize they are wrong. Women only change from being promiscuous because they have no other choice. They change because the there are not enough of the men that they want. It is not a choice she makes or even want's, but is forced upon her because of logistics. Suppose we have a woman who sincerely thinks she fucked up. She's doomed, but an ex-bp/now-rp man still has hope? Do you realize now the differences between the man and the woman in you're quote? Add to the fact th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/14 03:19 AM
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This is going to be the death of feminism. I highly doubt this. Feminism already gets very little respect by the average person. Remember Watson and her speech remarking they already get viewed as "man-haters". Where the power lies is in the view that women are still discriminated against and, somehow in the year of 2014, still have less rights then men. So any law that says it will help women will still get wide spread support. Ask the average smuck walking down the street if they dislike femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 01:52 AM
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Only an idiot thinks: 1) taking women off the pedestal necessarily means making negative comments about them, and 2) that it's impossible to make a negative comment without being sexist or misogynistic. I could hardly contain my laughter. You want a place that is inclusive and welcoming to women's imput and at the same time allowing "negative but not sexist" comments from men. Sorry, but all negative comments is and will be viewed as sexiest. The women you are so desperate to have a say will vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 01:13 AM
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Two quick questions for the mother of three boys. How do you feel about this advice by Sheryl Sandberg that was almost universally praised by both TwoX and AskWomen? "When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who think…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 03:59 AM
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By BluePill, I mean mainstream advice. One of the major foundations of PUA or RP is taking women off the pedestal. This encompasses not treating every woman a man meets like a unique snowflake. This is anti-thesis to almost everything you will hear in the mainstream. You may think saying "treat women as people" is the same, but it's really not even close. The sub you imagine you will create will be only reinforcing the stone pedestal with steel. Especially if anything unsavory said about women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 03:07 AM
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Nobody has said that ever. You do realize that OP's post is an analogy, right? That it never happened? "You're just insecure because I have more experience with LOVE." is meant to stand in for "You're just insecure because I have had more sexual partners."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 04:39 PM
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So I'd have no problem banning shitholes like greatapes, beatingwomen, creepshots How is any of this free speech? /r/redpill exist as it does now because Reddit, for the most part, allows free speech. None of these sub advocate violence or are breaking any laws. I have nothing against mods (or private companies) having a heavy hand when it's required. /r/askhistorians wouldn't be a good sub without it. They don't go around saying they love and promote free speech though. To say there is anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 04:49 AM
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All your suggestion leads to the BluePill. There is no way in which you can allow mainstream advice, and yes women's advice, into the sub and not have it turn BluePill. transphobia, and racism(no white nationalists in my required readings!)...bigotry There is very little in /r/repill. As a minority, in all my time browsing the sub only once comment comes to mind regarding a link to a explicitly racist blog. Another user even mentioned that its a racist blog and got more upvotes. Anyone who says …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 04:28 AM
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I wouldn't hide behind a warped sense of "free speech" It's either free speech or it isn't. You can't claim free speech and banned others for things the that would more than likely stand up in any court of of law in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 04:05 AM
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You would be really surprised. In my experience, most women underestimate a man's sexual appetite. Women don't need to know the exact value in order to know that withholding it or giving it out selectively will get them what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 06:54 PM
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But I don't think it's "red pill" to say so, since it's so well recognized by the mainstream. I wish that were so. But so many people, either willfully or out of ignorance, conflate the enjoy and wanting in order to win the argument. Any article or report that's not strictly scientific (typically on the effects of testosterone) will say that both genders want sex equally and that it's just men with hangups and can't get laid that perpetuate women enjoy sex less.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 06:49 PM
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Some might say "alpha fucks, beta bucks," but I'm not sure. It most certainly is. If most people care little about long term mating until their mid to late twenties, it's all AF/BB. nor do they understand how much men value sex Really? Women have no idea how much men value sex in a relationship? At the very least that they value it more then themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 06:37 PM
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the ability to go to a college of your choosing/based on your academic credentials the ability to pursue casual relationships in college due to the availability of free/cheap contraceptives the possibility of having a serious relationship where you don't have to consult senior members of your family for approval various opportunities to compete for a job where you are not limited by class or caste. How is any of this limited to males? Even typically discriminated minorities, myself included, enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 06:29 PM
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Wow, /u/MuchPriviloge, just wow. I'd be surprised if you could find even the bluest bluepiller to agree with you on how badly you just characterized the RedPill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 04:07 AM
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That's why I'm asking them to define it. And that is why so many are giving dictionary definitions and saying "others may consider it so". The word is about as offensive and meaningless as a Christian calling an atheist a "heretic". An atheist can spend all day reading how God is dead and never once have the thought that what he reading is "heretical".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:03 AM
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I think the reason you have to press so hard in this thread to get RPers to say it's misogynist is because the term has become nearly meaningless to them. Take #GamerGate for example. If you follow gaming news at all, you would know that gamers have been called misogynist, racist, bigot, sexist, homophobic, trans-phobic and everything in between in major publications over the last couple years and in the last month in particular. Right now, I bet there are a lot of gamers who consider "misogynis…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 01:58 AM
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"what about your SON!?!?" You should probably learn what an emotion appeal is before attempting to argue someone else is using it. Here are some helpful links. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emotional_appeal I'm guessing you also respond to any guy that says feminism isn't concerned about male problems as "what about the men?". EDIT: Are you really going to tell me you are OK telling you son to treat women as equals and then turning to you daughter an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 06:17 AM
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I'm going to copy a comment from /u/AFormidableContender that explains how the number of partners don't have to be equal for both genders. EDIT: Ok, so here...I wrote out a small anecdotal number sample. Here is a demonstration of how average partner counts do not demonstrate the socio-sexual conditions people actually find themselves in. 10 men 10 women ~ 2 alpha men bang 6 women 3 men bang 3 women 5 men bang X (where X is a variable below 2)* ~ 6 women share the 2 alpha men, and up to 2 of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:59 AM
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This is straight alpha fux/beta bux and you know it. No ifs, and, or buts. She says herself that "Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his share in the home." is not sexy. If all women were to follow this advice (more then currently do), a whole lot of men who want to treat women like they say they want to be treated would spend their youth sexless and with little experience in relationships. Tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:52 AM
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I'm glad I had the alpha bad boy experience But Sandberg is advocating that women spend most of their 20's dating these guys. ONLY THEN settling for the guys who should treat them as equal partners. She even admits that what makes these guys sexy, e.g arousing and someone you want to be with, is not someone who treats women as equal partners. To guys who have trouble getting dates in their teens and early 20's, the guys these women hook up when they are in their prime are the winners. Only when …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:35 AM
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If you can acknowledge that men have a harder time to get laid, how can you deny all the outcomes from that fact? Facts which are mostly RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:15 AM
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How old are you? HAHA, I had the same thought. I have her tagged as "Old Lady". Very far past the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 05:01 AM
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Not sure how RP it is since I've only ever seen it on reddit, but every couple months or so I see a post or comment about how the downfall of western civilization is inevitable and the main cause is feminism. That's the point that makes me question if the posters upvoting this are all there in the head. Not that these post get very many upvotes, but still the idea of feminism bringing about the downfall of civilization is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:59 AM
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There are no unicorns. I've known too many so called "prudish" women who, at least half I've known and usually church going, slept with a guy within days or even hours of knowing him. The other half I just assume I wasn't close enough to witness or hear stories about. I agree when someone else said in this thread that women not looking for a promiscuous man is because she got burned by guys like him in the past. It's just a matter of getting a guy with the right attractive features to her and a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:54 AM
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You are talking to a woman in this very thread who demonstrates otherwise. Is she lying? Of course not. But she is one woman. When speaking about women generally, male promiscuity is not looked at too harshly. I, and I think other RPers would agree, that most women want a man that is wanted by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:42 AM
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The whole "you're not really nice" is the most blatant case of attempting to get rid of the cognitive dissonance of not being attracted to nice guys when you say that you are. That's the same as saying "all guys are assholes, so I'll just fuck and date the guys who are assholes to my face". Wouldn't it be easier to just admit that you like assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:16 AM
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don't try to trick her our mislead her with niceness How do you trick someone into a relationship. Here's a better question. How does one mislead someone with "niceness"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:14 AM
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So where then does the gripe come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 11:01 PM
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What were these discussions with feminists friends about that there actually turned you RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 10:59 PM
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There's a top post right now on /r/redpill about what age men find women most attractive and predictably a lot of comments are how women past 20 are shit out of luck. They never remember the load of sex starved beta these women rejected waiting in the wings to scoop them up and cushion the wall. They forget/ignore the second part of the female strategy. Beta Bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 10:37 PM
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Funnily enough, I didn't, yet somewhat still ties into what you said about consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 10:22 PM
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I think the wall is much softer then we think. We like to trump up the wall as this time where consequences catch up the the choices made earlier, but they are easily bypassed by most women. Roosh really brings it home in the closing paragraph of an article. There will be no redemption. There will be no comeuppance. For most of their lives, women will have it easier than us, no matter how much we work out, how many books we read, how many languages we learn, and how decent or moral or virtuous w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 10:12 PM
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women want security What do you mean by this exactly? Physically? Well the U.S is as safe as it has ever been. And statically, women are less likely to be the victim of all violent crimes (including rape depending on how you count it). Economically? Women earn nearly as much as men do (lets not get into the wage gap myth) You mention men have independence, in that they can't have children (in another comment). Obviously women don't need to have children either if they don't want to. In fact, wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 05:27 AM
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But RPers are taking responsibility. They admit that how they went about getting girls was wrong. Then they try an learn how to go about it correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 04:31 AM
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Then what about feminism's new initiative to teach men not to rape. It either implies men are taught to rape by our "rape culture" or that men will rape innately. Either way, they are making a statement that applies to men in general and not to women. So what could RedPill say about women in general that is a product of either nature or nurture? If feminist's can make statements about men that can appear in the NYT's, then so can RedPill about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/14 06:39 PM
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I've only read part one but I mostly have issue with "It is potent and dangerous information." and "It will teach you the hidden secrets of female sexuality and female sexual psychology". This gives it a very pseudo-scientific vibe, like Scientology revealing the secret of the human condition because of ghost in our bodies. Then the "But Things Do Get Better . . . With The Red Pill!" Just about screams "But Things Do Get Better . . . With [WHATEVER BULLSHIT CULTS TRY TO SELL YOU]" I definitely w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 04:32 AM
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TRP understands the power of words better then most. That is why they refuse to moderate and tone down their words in the subreddit to be more "politically correct". When that happens, you get "politically correct" responses and subreddits like r/seduction, which recently had a top post disparaging using seduction techniques because it doesn't treat women "as people".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 12:07 PM
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show how rare the drugging of drinks really is No, the argument would be that now that women are wearing this nail polish, the use of date rape drugs has fallen dramatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 06:30 PM
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Because there's no science to back it up I'm guessing you don't want to have this conversation again, but there actually are scientific studies supporting the lock and key analogy. http://www.elainehatfield.com/79.pdf http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight/201009/how-college-students-respond-being-propositioned-sex Who gets to decide what's too much? As for who decides what's to much sex for a woman? Well men do. Just like women decide what is attractive in males. Men have no say and vice v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 04:22 PM
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Don't make "Plate" sound more insidious than it is. It's simply being non-exclusive, much like the beginning of any relationship. Most RP'ers will say to let women know that they are not in an exclusive relationship. The hamstering and CC stories you read on the front page of the redpill is no different of the stories of any other subreddit like 2xC, athiesm or MRA. Extreme examples that don't account for most peoples day to day lives. Just something to watch out for and be aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 11:43 PM
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Obviously only he can make the assessment that RP improved his life. "Be confident" is about as helpful for a guy with relationship troubles as "make more money" for someone with financial troubles. Using supposedly "manipulative" RP tactics is what he is getting at. He's asking why using the RP, not why being successful with women, is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 11:20 PM
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Most guys are BluePill. RedPill is less then a decade over, only growing in the last couple years or so. If you asked me, I would say the decade old divorce statistics implies women are sick of bluepill groveling men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 10:57 PM
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I'm going to paraphrase what you just said more succinctly. The words of anonymous men online saying it improved their lives are lying. The words of anonymous women online saying it ruined their relationships are telling the truth. Did I get anything wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 10:39 PM
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If by successful, you mean get one night stands with not-very picky women, then perhaps some guys have had some success. If that's what they want, then go for it. However some of them allege that they want long term relationships with nice women and TRP will never get that for them. Let me get this straight. You admit that it get's them laid, a goal many of them want before getting married if the choose. But that none of them are in relationships? Women decide they are sexually attractive enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 10:35 PM
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if the woman doesn't jump to meet his demands, she's discarded If women don't like where a relationship is going or have problems with the dynamic, they are fully capable of leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 10:24 PM
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Since you're to immature to offer an actual counter argument, I'm going to infer that you mean to say what men and women have an equally difficult time getting a ONS or FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 04:21 PM
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the duties of a wife were important, difficult and valuable or you don't. Important and valuable. Sure. Difficult? Not so much. I don't think sweeping the floor is difficult or needs to be done five days a week. Cleaning any part of the house top to bottom doesn't need to be done five days a week. The most difficult job was childcare. And although tiring, it can be very fulling. Very few men could be said to have anything close to a fulfilling job prior to the industrial revolution. More often t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:55 PM
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The Red Pill is only concerned about heterosexual men attracting heterosexual women. Gays, trans, asexuals, etc. have their own dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 04:27 AM
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A red pill man doesn't care that he is part of the cc because his youth was void of positive female interactions Women have an easier time getting laid then the average man. So when they want sex, they sleep with the most attractive man they can get. There are a lot more men willing to sleep with a woman less attractive to them then there are are women doing the same. Most men are not found to be attractive to women and are not taking part in the CC. Women create the CC and men try to take part …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 02:08 AM
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The "hamster" is used to justify doing something wrong in the past. By "taking the red pill" (a stupid term I admit) you admit that what you were doing before to attract women was not working and that you are at fault. If you're going to use our terminology, at least use it correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:54 AM
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Why do you think it is bullshit? Are you saying that the average man and the average woman has an equally difficult time getting laid on the weekends?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:47 AM
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I think a lot of men are really don't know how much the average man gets sex compared to the average women, particularly is she really went out of her way to get it. 'The I'm a man and have sex' sounds similar to the mantra that because it takes a man and women to have sex, the average number of sexual partners must be equal. A grade schooler can show that though the number may be the same, it can be heavily screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:37 AM
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Most men couldn't sleep around as much as the average women, no matter how much he tries. Most women are not sluts, but are just having sex with the small percentage of men that they find attractive while they are young and in their twenties. Most men can't fault the men who sleep with all these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:31 AM
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Not an entirely unfair assessment. Though I would say that they would mislead about what attracts women. Being 'nice' and supplicating to women is the wrong way to go about it. Remember that the ridicule of 'being nice' is only a recent mainstream development. I think it is only a latch on to what PUA/redpillers have been saying for years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:26 AM
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Is there an epidemic of women raping men No, but men have a higher sex drive then women. When the RedPill says women are the gatekeepers, they mean that, in our society at least, men approach women and are much more willing to sleep with a women who says yes the the other way around. If we were talking about why women are hesitant about hooking up/agreeing to a date by a random man, you would say it is because she was afraid of her safety. A completely legitimate reason. But this in turn means m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:20 AM
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I couldn't disagree more strongly that traditional marriage is/was a free ride for women. We have completely opposing views then. Mind explaining your further?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:08 AM
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Although there has been a recent push that last couple years by feminists saying men are attracted to women with careers and such not, contrary to almost any actual SCIENTIFIC study saying otherwise, women know that the more attractive they are the easier time they will have attracting a man. They know this and use it to their advantage to create and ride the CC. Only the most hardcore feminists think that men and women have an equally difficult time getting laid on a Friday night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 01:01 AM
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Numerous studies have shown across cultures that the number one indicator for beauty for both sexes is youth. You may be able to dye your hair, but neither sex can hide the wrinkles, receding hair line, or sagging skin. Fortunately for men, this can be supplicated by the increase income and status that comes to men with age that many studies have also shown to be attractive to women. And no, income and status of women is not a strong indicator of attractiveness to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 12:52 AM
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Literally nobody is trying to convince you to do otherwise as far as I can tell But they are. Not us specifically, but all men with the Slut Walks and anti-slut shaming. Most men are not taking part in the CC because most men are not even considered attractive to women. When it's easier for the average women to have sex with a man more attractive them her comparatively, why settle for less. So when the late twenties roll around for both sexes, women want men to forget/ignore many of these women …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 12:43 AM
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Women create the cock carousel. You have to understand that a major feature of the cock carousel is that only a few men are actually taking part (The most attractive). The reason is that the average woman, generally speaking, has an easier time convincing an attractive man to have a ONS/FWB then vice versa. Many redpillers goal is to get into that that small group.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 12:37 AM
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If you feel you were lied to, what makes you think the other side wasn't lied to as well? The other side (i.e women) weren't lied to. To many men were told what it takes to attract women that is no longer applicable in this day in age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 12:19 AM
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First, the guy in that story says that he doesn't want her to have wild crazy sex with him, because it will be out of guilt. Not genuine desire. I don’t feel entitled to other types of sex with my wife. I want her to want to do them. Now even if she does do them it will be out of guilt, not out of desire. it stems from her not enjoying making that tape the way he assumed she did. Second, I hope you can understand why redpillers say this is shit, otherwise she would not have kept the video all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 08:54 PM
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Look at it from the husbands perspective. He married a woman wasn't very into sex beyond missionary and who told him she had a low partner count. He entered into this marriage knowing this and accepted it because he thought he was getting the best from her in terms of their sexual relationship. Now he finds the video and doesn't know what to think. She's getting gangbanged by four guys and screaming "I'm your little whore!" all while getting taped. I don't know about you, but I don't think it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/14 08:35 PM
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I thought I would give some insight from an incel perspective when OP says incels like the guy from the article is actually sexists. "It's not the guy who has fucked a several dozen women and half my female friends without calling them back who is the sexists. It's the nervous incel who stuttered when asking me out to eat and maybe a movie on Saturday night who is a sexist and views me as a walking vagina." That's what your argument sounds like from an incel OP when you call them sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 09:08 AM
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What is the point of this post exactly? I take it you want us to talk about that last bit you wrote about. By using these PUA tactics they hand the power over to women. They go out of their way learning these techniques while women just sit there and wait to be approached. I would disagree here. The Red Pill isn't about changing dynamics so things are equal. That will never happen. Not today and not tomorrow. One aspect of the red pill is about increasing your chances in being chosen. One of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 04:07 AM
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Umm... maybe because guys want a wife that love them, whatever that means, and not one that married them for money. In the husbands mind, this just means she would have married someone else with more money us she could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 02:05 PM
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But it's relative isn't it. A top post over at r/sex right now and so many Blue Pill example post at r/redpill, are stories of men and women in content marriages, when he discovers his wife had a wild sexual past. Lost of partners and crazy sex with past boyfriends. Yet all they do now is missionary. The guy over at r/sex, and guys in general then feel this just means that their SO isn't as sexually attractive to them as much as their past boyfriends. That they only married them because they can…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 01:48 PM
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OP, what does this term mean to you: Alpha fucks, Beta bucks? Not knowing some very vital information about you or you SO, i would contend he is the Beta bucks. Why? Because of all the things you say you find attractive about him, sexual attraction was not one of them. AF,BB means women do find betas attractive, just not sexually. Otherwise they wouldn't enter a years or decades long relationship with them. What women find attractive is the provider role they fulfill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 01:35 PM
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Having a child is a pretty big mistake. No one in this day and age except very young naive teenage girls think having a child is a cake walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 11:26 PM
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or she spent almost every weekend in a bar/party since she was 16. Just to make up for all the small periods of relationship with or without cheating. Just think about that for a moment. Most likely wasn't fucking a new guy every month right after losing her virginity. Probably took a couple years or so to ramp up. Which means she must really have been fucking a several different guys every month for several months in her later years before meeting her soon to be ex-finesse (if he's smart).
/r/TheRedPill08/08/14 04:55 PM
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Assuming she became sexually active at the age of 16, at her current age of 22, she would have had to have sex with 1 new guy every single month non-stop for six years. (12.16 every year) Assuming at some point she entered a short term monogamous reationship, got sick, got tired of fucking a random every month, she would have had to fuck 2 to 5 different guys in a single month on several occasions to get to her current count of 73 at age 22. But hey, the past is the past, right. Past decisions s…
/r/TheRedPill08/08/14 03:13 PM
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She said that she had "laughed" as an "of course we're dating" Typical trickle truth post. What stood out to me was this lie by his girlfriend. If you're not using words, I'm not even sure what a laugh as a 'yes' is even suppose to sound like. A laugh to a question is meant convey as if the very premise of the question were ridiculous.
/r/TheRedPill05/08/14 07:38 PM
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Wasn't r/niggers banned for brigading, not because it was racist?
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 04:55 AM
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So do you know who your biological dad is? Have you thought about contacting him? Even if no normal relationship could form, I'd definitely want to know that I do have a grown son I didn't know I had.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 10:12 PM
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. reddit com /r/ relationships/comments/1pgnlo/update_me_26m_with_my_gf_24_f_8_months_she_asked/ He deleted what happened unfortunately. Anyways, he confronts her about it, she lies, but he doesn't let up. She eventually confesses about going back to the dude's car and blowing him. At that point, OP started looking for his girlfriend (remember, he actually believed she was looking all over the house for him as well and just not running into each other, haha). She says she's sorry and he does the…
/r/TheRedPill29/11/13 02:25 PM
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You didn't read the follow up post a few days later? She did blow him. Was a soul crushing read.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/13 11:46 AM
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she yet seemed unlike the other girls around me. My eye roll could have sent the earth off it axis.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 12:13 AM
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spending time with him also meant having oral sex with him on two occasions Yeah, I'm sure it ended there. Trickle Truth.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 12:08 AM
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I can smell that shit test through my monitor.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/13 08:50 AM
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I have a sick feeling this is what will be written on Jezebel and other blogs and pushed by feminists in a few years. Clearly they are doing a good job of beta'izing men if on reddit, a majority male site, 'straight' guys who suck dick for their girls get upvoted.
/r/TheRedPill25/11/13 08:45 AM
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Some guys are suggesting this is simply a ploy for boyfriend hopping. I disagree. Instead I see this as a growing trend of girls with beta boyfriends, who they threaten with a breakup (which is usually over a year old), in order to continue their ride on the carousal. She does all this under the guise of being "progressive" and "sex positive".
/r/TheRedPill16/11/13 02:59 PM
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