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Thank you.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 06:00 AM
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Not just fourth. They have 1/8 the viewership of their next closest competitor. But viewer numbers aren't only point. The point is that they have showcased Ezra Levant, a hate mongering ideologue. The point is that they have acted as a mouthpiece for the Conservative party, to the point of falsifying studio events. They have provided a platform to Rob and Doug Ford. They pushed to change Canadian broadcasting regulations so that they could be allowed to have false or misleading news in their bro…
/r/MensRights09/02/14 02:26 AM
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most definitely why the woman was called out. But Karen should have been the one calling out, instead of the crowd shouting her down. It was the shouting down, not the rebuttal, that I found strange. I'm missing a bit of lingo...WRT?
/r/MensRights09/02/14 02:15 AM
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No, the point that it's a little strange to argue over who has the right to hit who, when really nobody should be hitting anyone. My point was that Karen seemed to be trying to make a cogent response, but the audience was just trying to shout down the questioner, so it became rather silly.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 02:13 AM
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She is clearly delusional since she claims she has never hurt anyone not even animals. What is the betting was probably wearing products created with animal products right when she said that Isn't that a different lady?
/r/MensRights09/02/14 02:11 AM
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Interesting to listen to. The lesbian at around the 25min mark was a strange interlude. Nobody except Karen actually seemed to trying to communicate. The questioner had a great point that really, nobody should be hitting anybody. So shouting her down at that point was kind of silly. However, when the questioner was presented with exact examples of systematic oppression, she simply would not hear it! Edited to add: Perfect Line - Feminism is not synonymous with Women's Rights.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 09:32 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_News_Network#Ratings_and_viewership
/r/MensRights08/02/14 08:51 PM
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I don't know anything about /u/yellowcushion, but they are correct. Sun Media is essentially a laughingstock in Canada. Most of their views are far outside the Canadian mainstream and being highlighted there, even if done well, is not a positive entry to the Canadian consciousness. They are failing so badly that they tried to get political intervention to force cable carriers to carry them. The have 0.1% of viewers, compared to their next nearest competitor, which has 0.8%
/r/MensRights08/02/14 08:33 PM
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I want to believe in the Loch Ness Monster. I just need some evidence first.
/r/MensRights16/12/13 12:10 AM
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Everyone involved sounds crazy. I don't expect any sort of sane ruling out of this, but ultimately some sort of settlement out of court. I'm also surprised at how dingy their head office looked. I guess there isn't a ton of money in nostalgia.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 09:47 PM
5

Why would this be a good thing?
/r/MensRights02/12/13 09:43 PM
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Fair enough. We disagree. But I really appreciate you taking the time to lay out your way of thinking.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 07:46 PM
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There is nothing wrong, per se, with body modification. As long as the person is of age and wants the procedure. I'm not a fan of ear plugs, but I don't think they're a sign of mental instability.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 03:47 PM
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Old enough to given informed consent, to me, means it's fine. Curious though, why do you ask?
/r/MensRights22/11/13 03:46 PM
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Even the feminists thought it was silly.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 06:13 AM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 09:53 PM
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I was actually wondering what would be the best way to go about getting the article out there without giving them clicks. Screenshot then imgur?
/r/MensRights19/11/13 09:09 AM
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Gaah...the McGill Paper is seriously insane.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 06:56 AM
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Source? For the misandry.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 09:40 PM
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Nicely said.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:51 PM
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Yes, but it's not even something that should up for voting. Be it resolved, women only belong in the kitchen Can you imagine the hue and cry?
/r/MensRights09/11/13 12:28 AM
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I'm hesitant to even give their page hits. To me it seems completely beyond the pale to even float this as a topic.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 10:42 PM
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This is beyond disgusting.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 08:30 PM
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I strongly suspect that there is more to the story.
/r/MensRights08/11/13 03:57 PM
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Which is the most likely next step.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 08:46 PM
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-Not relevant to the discussion, but there are some nice shots there.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 02:54 PM
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Is this important to the work a Marine needs to do?
/r/MensRights13/10/13 05:22 AM
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Well said. We probably shouldn't use diminutives or insults for for anyone, even those who are not working to the same ends. The facts are compelling enough. Insults alienate potential supports.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 06:42 PM
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I've been ambivalent about Atwood. Sometimes I think she's awesome, sometimes I think she's overrated. She is an interesting voice on the landscape though.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 10:56 PM
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Does the notion of writing actively feminist work not interest you? No, it’s that that term itself has always been very rubbery. It’s hard to get people to say exactly what they mean by it. So they say “feminist.” Does that mean all the female characters are good and all the men are bad? Would we believe that? Probably not, unless it was some kind of other-planet-type science-fiction sort of thing. Does it mean that we are exploring ways in which life is unpleasant for women? Well, it might mean…
/r/MensRights24/08/13 10:19 PM
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Garry Trudeau is a great critic of the status quo and a great supporter of military personnel and veterans. Write to Trudeau and mention the male side of the coin regarding sexual assault in the military and I bet he tackles it as well.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 10:11 PM
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This is a terrible article, designed to incite outrage, not to report facts.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 08:50 PM
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I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I think you're saying: "When having sex, assume your partner doesn't want to be photographed unless they say otherwise." I'd agree with that. I'm saying: "If I see a picture taken of a sex act, without further context I can't tell if it was consented to or not." Would that put us somewhere on the same page?
/r/MensRights11/08/13 06:29 AM
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Glad to the side represented. But I'm don't see the point of the Slut Walks.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 05:38 AM
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How can you be responsible for someone else's irrational fear?
/r/MensRights11/08/13 05:37 AM
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I understand what both of you are saying. the collateral damage is that legitimate victims are discouraged from reporting and are less likely to be believed. This is very true. But everytime a false accusation happens other women are held out to be the victims most impacted, which really pisses me off.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 05:22 AM
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Recorder Greg Bull QC told England: "False allegation of rape is a terrible thing which affects not only the person against whom you make the accusation but it affects the prospects of women genuinely raped from receiving justice in their case This part grinds my gears. If I'm falsely accused I frankly don't care how it affects rape victims. I care that it's ruined my life.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 05:20 AM
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I don't think it would be treated much differently. But I also wouldn't be surprised if I was proven wrong.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 05:16 AM
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We should not judge her on her consensual sexual activities. What on earth would give us that right? We're not feminists, to be policing who sticks what, where. Calling her a whore or a slut is using insults based solely what she does sexually and are off base. Calling her a shitty friend? Sure, no problem. Judging her based on making what appears to false accusations. Sure, no problem. How she fucks. No. Seriously, it's people like you who make people ashamed of their sexuality and help create …
/r/MensRights11/08/13 05:10 AM
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I don't agree that as outside observers it's reasonable to start with the default position that someone who was photographed during sex didn't want to be photographed. I think it's reasonable that, absent evidence in any direction, we can say that we have no idea if they wanted to be photographed or not.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 05:05 AM
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(it's a reasonable default assumption that someone does not consent to having sex while being photographed) I'm not sure I agree with that. It's sort of a statement that relies on context more than anything else.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 10:59 PM
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Thanks for the insights about appropriate sexuality /u/Pornography_saves_li. However, thousands of years of civilization where life was nasty, brutish and short can get bent.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 10:55 PM
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This is his view, as told to him by his daughter. However, it doesn't seem to be consistent with other accounts being circulated. From the outside we are being presented with two wildly diverging accounts and being asked to select which one we believe, while lives are torn apart in the process.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 10:07 PM
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According to me. I think that picking on someone for their sexual choices, with the one crucial caveat about consent, is, at best, a sign of immaturity. Do you think someone should be picked on for trying group sex?
/r/MensRights10/08/13 09:47 PM
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I can't speak to the situation in the school and who is responsible for that. I have almost no information of there. The picture seems challenging, as (from my information) it isn't explicit and says a lot more by implication than anything else. Trying to figure out an appropriate level of punishment would be challenging.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 09:44 PM
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You are wrong. She was 15 in a high pressure environment. This is adolescent, having sex with adolescents, being picked on by adolescents and adults. To expect the same choices and responsibility that you would expect from an adult is unrealistic. She also didn't make the choice to be picked on for something no one should be picked on.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 09:31 PM
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The waters seem very muddy on this issue. The "boys done wrong" side seems very intent on this being cut and dried.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 09:23 PM
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Sorry, what do you believe unequivocally that the boys did wrong? The picture?
/r/MensRights10/08/13 09:21 PM
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The dictionary isn't slinging pejoratives at a young woman who experimented with her sexuality who was then hounded by her peers and pressured by her parents until she lashed out with what appear to be false accusations until at least five lives were destroyed. False accusations are terrible and they happen for a lot of reasons. One of those reasons is when people are made to feel ashamed for perfectly valid sexual choices. We don't need to add to that.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 08:47 PM
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Calling her a slut and a whore might fall under freedom of speech, but it is also part of an archaic, puritanical mindset that is very destructive.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 08:43 PM
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or...just think about this...because everyone around her was attacking her for her actions. 2 things 1) There is nothing wrong with group sex. Or multiple partners. Or any kind of consenting sex you can name. 2) Teenagers will mock the hell out of anyone having any kind of sex other than what they perceive as acceptable. That can be hard to live with.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 07:25 PM
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it was much easier as a parent to believe their daughter was an innocent angel that was raped by those bad boys then consider that she was a willing participant. I would agree with this. However, I take issue with labeling sexual activity as "slutty" or not. I don't care what whoever you are calling "my allies" thinks about sex. What I think is that we shouldn't be viewing it through a negative lens.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 07:22 PM
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Stop with the slurs.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 07:02 PM
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our daughter wanted to be a slut until she decided she didn't want to be called a slut. This part, especially "wanted to be a slut" is just vile. Teenagers having sex shouldn't be harassed and denigrated for that. From the articles it sounds like people using slurs like that is whats really causing the problem in the first place. Beside, denigrating young women for their sexuality is exactly how we get painted as misogynists.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 07:01 PM
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total whore and fuck a bunch of guys at a party This, we shouldn't judge her for and I reject the slur. Women should be free to explore their sexuality and not be judged for it. The bullying that happened because she had sex was wrong and, appears to be at the root of why rape accusations happened.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 06:58 PM
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True. But it gets me angry.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 05:15 PM
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The internet needs to look away, give him a chance to cover his shame and rebuild his shattered life in privacy. And he needs to be never heard from again when it comes to serious issues.
/r/MensRights10/08/13 07:10 AM
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He seems like a pretty disgusting person all around. Honestly, I take him completely out of the equation. He has no impact on how I feel about MensRights or Feminism, he's just a sad sack who has no place in any conversation, even one as acrimonious as the "Gender Wars."
/r/MensRights09/08/13 11:01 PM
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Nicely written
/r/MensRights09/08/13 10:02 PM
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Perfectly said. I get tired of hearing about the things that unify atheists. The only one true commonality to us all is "a lack of belief in gods." Anything else comes from outside the strictly "atheist" part.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 09:50 PM
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If I went to the men grad students and complained about how some female professor has "a problem with men", I assure you, they would not be swayed without a significant volume of evidence. I don't think this is true. People are people and are pretty easily led by rumour and innuendo. Men as much as women.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 07:06 PM
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"When a false allegation of rape is made, it heightens the difficulty for those victims who have suffered from sexual abuse." This is true. But police always highlight this fact, while neglecting to mention that the accusation itself made life a living hell for someone.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 07:03 PM
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That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. That being said, Myers is looking for a lawsuit.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 02:48 PM
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Yeah, ESPN reads more like "Look, another athlete got away with a crime." as opposed to the real story.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 05:17 AM
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I'm not punishing her. I'm answering your question.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 01:25 AM
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There is considerable debate as to the truth of the article.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 08:13 PM
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In contrast, I once had a similar encounter (although no one ended up on the ground). 2 other strangers and my friends all called the cops and they were there by the time I started retaliating. Took a while to explain that I wasn't the one who initiated the encounter. Point being, I suppose, that people react differently.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 08:12 PM
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Anecdotal evidence having the weight that it does, I still feel compelled to say that I've only seen this behavior in Italy. For what it's worth I've traveled extensively.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 07:22 PM
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I'm not mad. They were products of their time. I just wouldn't do it to my kids and would push for changes in laws and awareness.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 07:21 PM
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I was wondering if that was the law or not. In some places it isn't...I believe.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 11:22 PM
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I noticed that he is declining to press charges. I think that's unfortunate.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 07:52 PM
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Then they deserve our sympathy and understanding.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 07:45 PM
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There were some valid points in the article, but yes, it was terribly written.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 02:23 PM
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Yup, devolving into infighting. Classic step for any movement. How about instead you thank her for the interest and support, point out things you felt she got wrong or missed and move on?
/r/MensRights01/08/13 07:47 PM
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Looks like they changed the content after I posted it.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 07:36 PM
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Found safe: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/canadian-press-newsalert-amber-alert-issued-niagara-region-083319426.html
/r/MensRights01/08/13 04:44 PM
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Thank you for answering.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 07:48 PM
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Why not? Genuinely curious.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 04:38 PM
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No. You're actually missing out. Once you take away the older language and the more stilted style of writing that was popular, she's very funny. For whatever reason the BBC went through a period where the had to turn everything awesome into something boring. Compare old BBC Sherlock Holmes with Benedict Cumberbatch, for example.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 02:22 PM
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That article is literally gibberish.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 05:10 AM
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Jane Austen has made a great contribution to all English speaking cultures. Pitting science against culture helps no one. Money changes faces with regularity in a lot of countries, and it's good to represent the diversity of a nation.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 05:05 AM
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How is a "woman centric" home different than a "normal" home?
/r/MensRights29/07/13 10:46 PM
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Well said.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 09:18 PM
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Which happens. If it's not Men's Rights we need to be unequivocally clear that it's not.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 09:16 PM
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I definitely noticed that she was getting portrayed as a victim, whereas men who kill their children are usually seen as monsters. From my perspective anyone who kills their infant child is a monster.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 08:54 PM
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I'm not judging the author, she seems to address "parents" frequently, instead of "Mothers" or "Fathers." However, I do wonder if there would be, or should be, calls for compassion and understanding if a Father slaughtered his children. Also, biology is obviously a factor, how much a factor should it be?
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:55 PM
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I think we should be abundantly clear, misogynist attacks and rape threats are vile and have no part in the MRM.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 07:31 PM
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I would expect that many men simply accept that they won't have access and that fighting for more access is simply throwing good money after bad.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 03:56 AM
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Upvoted you both. It can happen and it can work. But, long odds.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 03:52 AM
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20? Who knows anything at 20? Who is married at 20?
/r/MensRights29/07/13 03:52 AM
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Fair enough. You might have a higher opinion of people's attention spans than I do.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:25 AM
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I think when Swift was writing there were fewer readers, with a higher level of education. I feel like, in order to communicate in the digital age, we need to do so on a more basic level.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 11:14 PM
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I just don't think its a good writing tactic. Writing something deliberately so that your audience tunes out, or misunderstands your intentions opens too many doors to miscommunication. However, that's only one perspective.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 11:11 PM
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Took a bit of deeper reading on my part to understand what you were saying as well. It's part of the problem with internet conversations, our attention span is severely truncated. Anyway, upvoted for the sentiment.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 08:21 PM
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Yes, Men's Rights are for all men.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 08:12 PM
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To be honest, if the message isn't contained in the first paragraph, usually the first sentence, the message is lost. Our current culture does not read beyond that before deciding whether to continue reading or not. I'm not saying that's good, or that it's bad. It just is.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 08:09 PM
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From the article it seems like he was suspended because police wanted to talk to him. That's a pretty lousy discipline policy. If the surveillance video is as described, why is she not being charged?
/r/MensRights24/07/13 06:07 AM
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Wow. He's basically advocating rape.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 01:46 AM
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I thought I identified with the Young Turks for a while, but then I actually listened to them. They are as bigoted and as close minded as anyone they attack.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 01:43 AM
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According to most feminist groups, this is not a thing. Move along, nothing to see here.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:49 AM
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RadFem implies extremists, which implies fringe groups. Mainstream feminists groups fight against equal custody arrangements. Mainstream feminists fight to have women's only clubs while attacking men's only organizations. Mainstream feminists fight to prevent men's shelters and organizations that help men. Mainstream feminists fight to cover up true domestic violence statistics. Mainstream feminists pull fire alarms to suppress free speech. Maybe everyone walking around casually calling themselv…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 01:09 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g2eme/feminists_tell_you_that_the_solution_to_mens/
/r/MensRights23/07/13 12:39 AM
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No. I'm not on a fence. I believe in equality for all. I will call out inequality wherever I see it. But the male side of the equation is currently under represented, so I direct my energies there.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 12:38 AM
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Holy crap. I'm usually pretty level headed, but from some reason this pissed me right the fuck off.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 11:33 PM
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Of course, unlike her, most people have to work, so they don't have the time.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 11:20 PM
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I basically consider myself egalitarian, but as there are already groups fighting for women it seems like there needs to be louder voices on this side.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 11:17 PM
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I can only comment based on my experiences there.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 09:17 PM
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I was thinking: I want to elaborate, but that's a lot of work and I'm lazy. Then Whabam! u/MRB2012: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1it2bv/irony_feminist_article_about_historical/cb7zcoy
/r/MensRights22/07/13 09:10 PM
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"It has a point, and I do think they do have a valid message, but I think they are going the wrong way in getting that message out," Fine. What's the right way?
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:43 PM
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2X is actually a pretty reasonable place. They have about as many crazy people and trolls as we do, but at the very least they're usually willing to hear out a contrary opinion.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:42 PM
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This seems pretty ignorant of actual history.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:39 PM
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I agree. Over the top hyperbole doesn't help.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:28 PM
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It may be equally significant that this is really, really, really, bad music.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 06:22 PM
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from what I understand, and it's not like I've read up on it, he is divorcing her.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 08:11 PM
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Charles Saatchi
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:43 PM
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No. SRS represents extremism. That's about all.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:21 PM
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It really is the most valid perspective.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 02:17 PM
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That looks like they are trying to make women extremely threatening.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 03:36 AM
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Boo...
/r/MensRights17/07/13 03:35 AM
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I think that people need to back away from the Trayvon Martin case for a bit. Every political agenda is trying to put an oar in, with only muddy waters for their efforts.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 03:32 AM
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Women are welcome. Discussion is welcome. It's really a friendly environment. The hostility only comes because our concerns are so often marginalized.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 03:30 AM
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So. Like any other sub, downvote those you don't think add. Upvote those you think do. Add your own content.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 02:26 PM
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In the last three days, there have been three posts complaining about the content. If you don't like what's being posted, post something of your own. Be the change you want to see in the world.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 06:52 AM
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Film it. Filming feminists at events has been the best propaganda for the MRM.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 06:51 AM
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Posters for everyone!
/r/MensRights16/07/13 03:53 AM
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Hopefully in a few years time there will be enough active MRA that it isn't possible. A reason to mobilize as soon as possible.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 03:52 AM
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Also, people create and abandon identities regularly. I account for a least 4 people subscribed to this sub. Nothing malicious, I just don't subscribe when I create a new user name.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 11:25 PM
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It is very similar to what happened with George Lucas once he had no one telling him no he did whatever he wanted and everyone hated it including the people who liked his old work. I'm going to use that on a friend. Thanks!
/r/MensRights15/07/13 11:18 PM
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I didn't get the impression that this was a done deal: Justice Ellen Gorman said she intended to impose the recommendation by the end of the week after she had a chance to better review it and make corrections. http://www.pressherald.com/news/Hancock-County-prosecutor-admits-to-ethics-violations.html
/r/MensRights15/07/13 08:45 PM
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As ridiculous as I think this is, it appears to be optional.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 08:41 PM
10

I've seen this cited a number of places and I've thought "Boy, it's easy to stop rapes. A few posters is all it took." /s
/r/MensRights15/07/13 06:19 PM
1

This is a very good article and should be highlighted as a cogent and relevant response. I'm a little disturbed by how the comments following it proceed
/r/MensRights15/07/13 06:17 PM
3

Which province?
/r/MensRights15/07/13 05:55 PM
1

Totally 100% disagree with you! :) But after getting deleted in rfreminisms I love the fact that we have people with polar opposite views staking claim to their contrary positions and still coexisting!
/r/MensRights15/07/13 05:51 PM
2

I can't help but notice that every single political cause that exists is claiming the Zimmerman verdict proves that their cause is the correct one. Its a little sickening.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 03:04 PM
7

Feminists are going to have stop doing that. Stop coming in here and demanding to know why we can't just call ourselves feminists and then ignoring our answers. Someone asked in rFeminisms the other day: "How Do You Get Men to Understand That Feminism Is Important?" I answered: "Stop marginalizing men's voices." I was deleted. This subreddit is full to the brim of examples where feminists are fighting against equality. Look around at them. Read them. Feminists aren't living up to the propaganda.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 02:31 PM
1

Feminist would like you to believe that "feminism is all about equality." That's why so many people have the knee jerk response that they are feminists. But there are so many instances where feminism is clearly working towards goals of female superiority and not equality, and feminists really prefer not to talk about those.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 02:58 AM
2

It's hard to have a serious dialogue when places like /r/feminisms deletes posts and bans users for answering questions.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 02:56 AM
4

I really hate that. I believe the equality is the only way. But I look at the feminist movement and I loath it. I really hate that the only way they can try and get legitimacy is by pretending to be something they are not.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 02:07 AM
1

When anyone drops the term “male gaze” your blood boils with rage. I can only assume the blood is boiling because it's a ridiculous term to be using.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 02:03 AM
4

How can it be over? Are we dead? Are we in concentration camps? It doesn't benefit anyone to paint things as hopeless. We are in the middle of compelling conversation. Feminism has had the floor for a while, it's merely time for some reasoned, rational and passionate rebuttals.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 12:53 AM
1

I'm not sure why this would be a Men's Rights concern.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 12:44 AM
2

Great. Step up and create what you are looking for.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 05:57 AM
2

Wow. Whole lot of ugly out there.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 05:29 AM
1

Really? Only in Canada? Only a MR perspective? Susan sarandon Feminists everywhere are worried that women are refusing to adopt the label feminist. Katy Perry CEO of Yahoo. ...badly truncated to remove blocked websites.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 03:02 AM
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"Women are bad at leading and being in a position of authority because of their hormones... I mean c'mon, you're like crazy 7 days of every month..." "women are just bad bosses, they're so shrill." These are not Men's Rights positions. I would find them very sexist. Men are not better than women, nor are they worse. We are looking for equality.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 09:11 PM
1

This is pretty much exactly it.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 08:50 PM
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I would disagree with you pretty strongly. The women at the UofT protest are fast becoming the recognizable face of feminism, as are the feminist who angrily protested the SFU men's center, as are the women's studies professors in Edmonton who claim that false rape accusations never happen, as is NOW which ardently fights any attempt to equalize custody arrangements.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 08:02 PM
1

This is fine when you speak about an specific subset of individuals. However, the broader movement...the louder voices if you will...are not working in a way that makes working together a feasible option. You can say that the screaming individuals at the UofT events do not represent the intellectual roots of the current movement, but they have become the public face.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 07:44 PM
2

Upvotes for Everyone!
/r/MensRights13/07/13 07:40 PM
1

Thanks. The more you know...
/r/MensRights13/07/13 07:34 PM
1

Really? The impression the media gives is that it's not. Would it be the act of drawing it that is illegal?
/r/MensRights13/07/13 05:07 AM
2

:)
/r/MensRights13/07/13 02:51 AM
1

I think we're too far apart to come to any agreement on this issue.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 02:10 AM
7

Gonna have to dismiss you as a troll.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 02:09 AM
6

Then I don't think you've been paying close attention to what they are really saying.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 01:49 AM
2

Laws, however, can also come first, and nudge morality in certain directions. And they often do.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 01:48 AM
6

Or whether there are enough groups creating interest. Canadian women's hockey players are the best women's players in the world, not because Canadian women are genetically suited for it, but because there aren't major women's leagues anywhere else* *USA not being included in this analogy.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 01:47 AM
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Agreed, we should all be able to tackle gender issues. However, feminism has decided to ignore, marginalize or attack men for raising men's issues. "Patriarchy theory" alone speaks to why we cannot ally with feminists. Equality? Yes! Feminism, however, is not about equality.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 01:44 AM
4

Seeing things in a larger context is a great idea. However, we can't pretend that feminism has not either ignored or openly attacked men's issues. I agree fully with equal rights (I feel stupid for having to spell that out), but I don't agree with feminist ideology.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 01:41 AM
1

I think you and I have a pretty fundamental disagreement about the nature of law. I would understand many laws to be both shaper and reflection of morality. They don't always mesh, but that's the idealized goal anyway.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 01:34 AM
3

That's a terrible segment. If feminists want to talk about "checking your privilege" that's it right there. Besides, whatever happened to biology not being destiny?
/r/MensRights13/07/13 01:07 AM
1

Canada has some reasonably stringent laws that create and shape that diversity. Some I disagree with, most I don't. Although this article is in the Vancouver Sun, the incident it refers to is in the States. I'm reasonably sure this would be illegal in Canada.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 01:00 AM
1

Or, at least, it's what I think it should be.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 12:55 AM
1

Sorry if my tone didn't sit well. It wasn't really a call to action, it was more a reflection of something that pisses me off about feminism. I think of the men's rights movement as a group of fully realized human beings who care about everyone's rights.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 12:50 AM
5

That's fascinating. Is it just that there aren't that many women playing, so the best isn't that high?
/r/MensRights13/07/13 12:17 AM
5

Thank you for the info. That is the strangest thing I've learned in...a while. I wonder what would account for the differences.
/r/MensRights13/07/13 12:15 AM
3

Why would chess be a farce? Actually asking. Are there stats somewhere to back that up?
/r/MensRights12/07/13 11:25 PM
3

I was with them until: The letter notes that a separate race called Tour Feminin that was once held, "but it lacked parity, media coverage, and sponsorship." So, it's not that they want to compete in the Tour De France, which they should be allowed to do if they can manager it, it's that they want to hitch their failure of a race to an international star. Sort of like demanding that there be a WNBA game going on at exactly the same time as NBA one.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 11:21 PM
4

Then, for your concern's I would highlight my second point. Men are not mindless drones who can't think of anything other than sex.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 11:12 PM
5

Well said.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 09:51 PM
1

Again...not a lawyer, so don't pin any hopes on me. However, I too would like to see this undone.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 09:01 PM
6

Although I disagree, I appreciate you taking the time to articulate your belief. I can see why you'd believe that way as well, it's not a position without substance. However, I come from the belief that this opens people who are powerless up to too much abuse. Our disagreement is something I find interesting, it points to the idea that "Mens Rights" is neither a left wing or right wing movement.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:50 PM
8

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I believe that people can be dismissed for performance issues, or the financial state of the company, but should not be dismissable for things like race, sex, or orientation.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:26 PM
9

Because they're black, for example?
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:17 PM
3

I'm not a lawyer, but the article references a Stay of Proceedings, not an aquittal. The Canadian Law Dictionary says: A suspension of the court proceedings. For up to one year, the Crown may lift the stay and re-institute the proceedings. After one year the matter is stayed permanently. I believe they still have time to unstay the proceedings. How that could be initiated, I don't know.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 07:03 PM
1

30 years is potentially more than murder.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 07:02 PM
3

Upvote for geekery!
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:59 PM
1

This is a well written article and the author should be commended.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:47 AM
5

There is a strange set of conflicting emotions on this one. I don't think a man in a similar situation would be given these chances. That said, I think statutory rape laws in the US can be ridiculous and 30 years seems insane for consensual sex.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:21 AM
3

So? Help men that got the shitty end of the stick and post about. Post about ways other people can help. Post defining what men's rights means to you. Contribute, or not, as you chose.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 02:54 AM
6

Then contribute what you feel the movement needs. Be the change you want to see in the world.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 02:45 AM
7

Valuable commentary, but again makes it all about the value and experience of women and trots out the "But the problem isn’t too much feminism. The problem is we don’t have enough."
/r/MensRights11/07/13 08:54 PM
1

I thought, at one point, that I agreed with the Young Turks on many issues. Turns out that I'd just been seeing a lot of clips taken out of context. The Young Turks appear to be simply an attempt to capitalize on the ranting screech that characterized political discourse right now. They stand for nothing other than their own ability to holler.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 10:12 PM
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