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Somebody posted the stats a few hours ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:52 PM
0

You also failed to mention the correlation is a lot less for men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:59 AM
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FDS seems like a place where undesired women go to pump up their egos when they repeatedly fail to get a "good man". They talk about about filtering, but that only works if you can attract the guy you want. Something tells me they aren't. Worse, the response seems to be filter harder rather than improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:29 PM
4

Women tend to pick useless degrees. I do find it funny when one of these women considers herself educated. Personally I think a lot of them come out of college dumber than when they went in
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:54 PM
10

Whatever you say man
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 03:40 AM
16

Most factors driving women's attraction are not mutable. No amount of working out is gonna make you taller. Sure, maximize what you got, but if you're 5'7 you are not going to be drawing any women's eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 09:56 PM
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Does anybody here actually step outside? Go to a bar in any major city. Good looking guys are getting women there too. Game means nothing. An attractive dude on dating apps will also do comparatively well at a bar. There are no "other ways" that don't involve looks or money or being literally famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 09:52 PM
2

This analogy is just an easy way to expose the hypocrisy of women. Women (who are more liberal) will talk all day about income inequality and hating on the rich, but will go on banging Chad. The equivalent of the rich in the sexual market. In fact it's even worse than this. At least you can make more money. You can't just get taller or change your race, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:30 PM
1

The premise of your take is based off a clickbaity and purposefully trashy podcast and this somehow is representative of real life? Facepalm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:28 AM
1

I love how you assume I struggle with women. I don't. Also thanks for confirming my point. Looks give you a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:34 PM
0

Nope. And there has never been an experiment backing that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:31 PM
7

Way to conveniently ignore his point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:29 PM
1

High inhib attractive men don't have issues getting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:37 PM
4

Gotta call it like I see it. This post was a really long winded way of saying "just be chad, bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:16 PM
5

Just go to parties bro. What a meme this post is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:26 AM
3

Attractive guy says dating is easy. More news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:35 AM
12

Maybe, but having a line of 6-7s they can bang without trying is pretty nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:32 AM
75

For women and attractive guys, certainly. Everybody else, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:40 PM
12

PPD women logic never fails to amaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:05 AM
21

Exactly. If you are invisible as a woman you are almost certainly well below average. Notice how another woman in this thread claims to be below average but still gets too much attention on dating apps. Lol the memes continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:10 PM
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men aren't attractive Press x to doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:30 PM
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Nope not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:25 PM
1

Have you tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:23 PM
1

Of course I have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 06:40 PM
1

Bruv all you need to do is spend 5 min on PPD or any other feminist leaning sub to know you should avoid these women. I've gone on dates with "feminists". After 3 times I decided any girl that declares herself a feminist is an immediate deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:26 PM
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Lay off the feminism juice brah, this is nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:21 PM
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a woman who makes every man wait I too love anecdotes about unicorns
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:19 PM
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Because women don't grow, they just get older and switch priorities to finding somebody with resources but they don't lust for like the ppl they banged in their 20s. If a woman actually matured and improved they wouldn't have n counts in the double digits by age 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:16 PM
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Just be Chris Hemsworth bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:12 PM
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Never heard this one before 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:11 PM
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Yeah, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:08 PM
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Maybe if women breaking their "principles" for attractive guys wasn't such a common occurrence men wouldn't think this way? I'm not surprised, most of this women on PPD are pretty far removed from modern dating so these ideas may seem foreign to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:08 PM
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Yes we are aware the anti social shut in sheltered women on PPD are all about "personality" and "would never do ONS" and "aren't like the others". blah blah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:05 PM
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Women do it all the time because they confuse the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:02 PM
2

Lol that disclaimer. Did an incel kill your dog or something? Very cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:01 PM
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You are out of touch and it shows. Women's actual standards, especially young women, are largely based on physical, unchangeable attributes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:53 PM
2

You would be surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:50 PM
0

Not everybody has access to cheap prostitutes. An actual good woman can be a benefit to your life. Finding one is extremely hard these days, but can be done. Dating isn't that miserable. Go Dutch, do stuff you were gonna do anyway, have sex, don't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:11 PM
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Women and accountability do not mix
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:03 PM
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LOL. more like men don't care because a political party or ideology is a poor judge of ones personality/character
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:02 PM
1

White collar workers don't use Ashley Madison. That doesn't mean they cheat less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:18 PM
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Yup the ideal scenario is the super hot guy chooses her to settle down with, however delusional that may seem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:35 PM
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In general this is true tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:32 PM
2

Makeup has never moved a girl from the would not into the would category for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:14 AM
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Yeah more ppl need to get this. Good looking guys slay, whether they are muscly or not. Be tall, have the right skin color (not gonna delve deeper cuz race talk isn't allowed), have a good jaw, and have low body fat. And that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:46 AM
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The emphasis is "equality" you know the thing that women demand so much. But as usual, women are only feminists when it suits them, as evidence by all the women in this thread saying men should pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:23 AM
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There are few impressive men. There are even less impressive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 06:24 PM
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OP straight up misquoting the study by the way. It theorizes sexual frustration leads to misogyny, not the other way around. In case you didn't already know she isn't debating in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:11 PM
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Lol this is a meme take. You seriously think having negative views on women prevents success with them? Hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:07 PM
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Yes, but high n count usually does not mix with those other things
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:04 PM
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I've never seen that, can u link to an example
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:37 PM
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Which dating subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 08:04 AM
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Where
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:24 AM
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Why do women equate not wanting you date as hate? Imagine if we applied the same logic to women. "Why do young women hate 30+% of men?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:07 AM
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Small difference Yeah this guy has no idea what he's talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:28 PM
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Considering the number sexless men is increasing, and the same is not occurring for women, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 02:28 AM
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Lolol this website is great. I got .086%. I definitely don't feel that desirable but it gave a little ego boost so that's nice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:35 AM
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And I'm saying that is bad advice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:01 PM
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Lol you're assuming women are here to understand men or learn anything. They are here to feel better about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:01 PM
2

Ok that's not what I said though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:58 PM
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Men would be more happy they had enough matches where harassment was a problem tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:57 PM
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Then your advice is bad since more than half of dating is online now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:56 PM
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Most of the guys here are younger, the women are older I think. Which explains a lot of the discussion here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:56 PM
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Lol always remember the rule. Multiply by 3
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:42 PM
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This is a rehashed version of "personality is most important". It's not. It's not even close to mattering as much as how you look. there are a million studies, datasets, papers that outline this pretty clearly, but just step outside and it becomes pretty obvious. Happy guys aren't hot, hot guys are happy. Vibes aren't attractive, attractive men give off good vibes to women. Women will attribute whatever positive attributes to a hot guy to make her seem like she's with him for his "personality" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:41 PM
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That's not saying as much as you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:46 AM
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Mgtow is too small to make a dent in metrics like these. They also skew older.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:40 AM
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lol what kind of convoluted humblebrag is this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:51 PM
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That's not my assumption. I think it's more that women who choose to message first are women who care less about physical attractiveness and more about other things. A more practical woman maybe. But again this is conjecture. Whatever my assumption is though, it's still a small minority of women who think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:44 PM
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"debate"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:41 PM
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Men who can afford to give commitment, typically don't until later or do it whenever they want. Others don't have that luxury, but are happy to just find one person to stick with them for the long haul. Unfortunately, women don't really care about the first guy because he's probably not that hot. And having casual relationships with hot guys and trying to lock them down is preferable to a long term one with a regular guy. Well until it's time to settle down. Then the standards slowly begin to dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:40 PM
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Just don't be a neck beard bro. Lol. You can't make this shit up. I refuse to not partially believe this is a secret incel troll account to spread blackpill by using purposefully stupid arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:35 PM
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Worse, that's just for women who messaged people first. Very few women message first on dating apps. So she's even more wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:31 PM
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Women make certain men jump through hoops. Men would be wise to not put in effort into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:22 AM
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Yes of course. This is one of the main reasons young male sexlessness is rising
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:17 AM
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He's a full 3-4 points above her. She'd look alot better if she lost weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:26 PM
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Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:23 PM
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This is very very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:04 PM
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Yeah no. Most men don't think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:03 PM
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Taking dating advice from women, and particularly women on this sub is a terrible idea for men. They have trouble separating their feelings/perceptions from reality so you get very inconsistent advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:02 PM
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Because there's some truth in it? Women, despite liberation, still prefer to not get their hands dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:07 PM
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Wrong. If this were the case you'd expect a dramatic increase in achievements in stem as women became more liberated. This obviously has not been the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:23 AM
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Lol u seriously think social media has had less of an impact than porn? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 08:18 AM
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That's not ironic at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 03:51 AM
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People's personal experiences are wrong all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:11 PM
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You're a good looking dude. You were never destined for beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:19 PM
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Women and introspection is like oil and water.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:13 PM
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You think there are more safety nets for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:13 PM
3

What is with ppl on PPD and scapegoating video games and porn? Literally all my friends who are successful and worth millions partakes in vices like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:11 PM
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the rest of us struggle just as much or more No, you don't It's not magically easier for women. Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:07 PM
3

Maybe we do maybe we don't. But we do for sure know how they act. And their actions can be reconciled with what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:05 PM
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Nah guys notice you, but you don't notice them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:03 PM
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More evidence the women of PPD are either old or shut-ins and know zero about modern dating. If she's not treating you like a priority, you aren't one. Guys now understand how women treat guys they like. And also understand to bail if you don't get that treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:02 PM
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More evidence the women of PPD are either old or shut-ins and know zero about modern dating. If she's not treating you like a priority, you aren't one. Guys now understand how women treat guys they like. And also understand to bail if you don't get that treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 03:02 PM
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Hot* dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 02:50 PM
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Mgtow is not misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:27 AM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:57 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:57 PM
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Apex fallacy again. Remember, when women complain about men it's top men. Men aren't always about getting sex. But the men they want are only looking for sex from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 11:16 AM
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You didn't answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:54 PM
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What percentage of women send messages first on OKC?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:46 PM
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Yup, the fact of the matter is, a lot of things that made you desirable 20+ years ago don't matter to most women today. Because social media and technology have made us all connected artificially, women have pivoted their priorities to match. If a women couldnt see you with her on her Instagram she ain't dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:45 PM
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Stop reposting your terrible interpretation of this OkCupid study.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:41 PM
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There is no changing the view. Because the view is correct. The data is out there. You can say otherwise, but men will wait till observed reality and the data actually changes. Which it probably won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 10:39 PM
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Yeah, people really don't get how insane girls get over good looking men. Literally two different universes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:28 PM
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lol we need a hall of fame for inane PPD comments like this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 05:02 AM
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Your quoting it yet, drawing incorrect conclusions. What percentage of women message first? Without knowing that the data does not really support your point. Maybe not you I don't use OKC so yeah that would make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:57 AM
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Read carefully. I have no reason to believe the data is incorrect, the particular conclusion drawn by the OP is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:45 AM
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No, it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:37 AM
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You are misinterpreting the OKC data. Using data from the small subset of women who messaged first is misleading. Most women don't message first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:36 AM
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https://news.stanford.edu/2019/08/21/online-dating-popular-way-u-s-couples-meet/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:18 AM
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over half of relationships are started online now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:37 AM
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You mean dating. Most dating is online now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:04 PM
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I'm gonna need access to the full studies here, but these don't seem as definitive as u claim. not to mention, these studies kinda reaffirm my beliefs. Personality is nothing, looks/status are far more important. A lot of this seems self reported as well, which we know for things like this isn't very reliable. That being said if you have full access I'd like to dive in. Secondly these studies are still kinda old. Tinder was released in 2012. Thirdly, my main focus is mostly on under 30 crowd. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:03 PM
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^ you didn't actually understand the OKC study at all. Of women who messaged people, it showed they messaged people more in their league. Most women don't message people first on dating apps. OLD is the norm, tinder and other apps are representative nowadays. OP is 100% right. Dating app data is very good for understanding trends dating, especially among younger people
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:37 PM
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No, men understand chasing a girl when she's got 5 other men in a rotation is stupid and undignified Women definitely don't need to be beautiful. Just not fat and you'll be hit on. Actually even that is optional. If men have nothing to offer than I'd say women offer even less
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:31 PM
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Lol is this the new meme? It's the porn and video games! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:24 PM
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Yes, this is trivially true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:22 PM
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All of these studies are 30 years old. A lot has changed since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:20 PM
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Maybe because they used to have somewhat romantic views on finding a partner, and realizing that women don't really care about being a good person, or having principles, or believing in growing together, or modesty, or anything resembling maturity, is not fun. It's quite disappointing. So they learn the new game, which seems less fun than they old one. And a lot more superficial, but seems like there only real way to play. And it seems there's a small amount of winners compared to before. But th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:51 PM
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more tied to personality No, this is incorrect. Women care far more about physical attractiveness above all else, and far more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:43 PM
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I've seen guys with autism and asp get laid. They were physically attractive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:56 AM
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In the absence of Chad, a slow drip of various new age media anesthesia fills the gap. These fleeting dopamine hits are more satisfying than ending up with a guy they can't flaunt to others on Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 09:48 PM
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The rest was drivel as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:28 PM
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Outliers exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:37 PM
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No, I think it's you who doesn't understand the concept of an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:36 PM
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This is a very important point. When women complain about men, they are always almost talking about top men. "Men run the world", no, extremely rich men do "Men have unrealistic beauty standards", no, just the top men you want "Men just use me for sex", again nope just the ones that can afford to And so forth. Average men don't really even register as an entity to the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:50 PM
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That's an expression a lot of women on this sub seem very unfamiliar with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:43 PM
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Toxic masculinity is a nonsense term used to shut down ugly men who stopped taking women's sht.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:18 PM
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Meh, I don't find the homogeneous and exclusionary culture of many European countries to be all that much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:25 PM
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In my experience, the guys girls have casual relationships are a subset of guys they want a relationship. they would like to turn it into something more serious but a lot of times he is out of their league
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:22 PM
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Yup most of this post is pure projection and falsehoods. There such a funny irony in a woman complaining about men's standards. Such a tone deaf take.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 03:15 PM
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The normal guys that are in their league, that can't afford to have casual relationships and looking for LTR don't exist to these women. They are insta left swiped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 09:49 PM
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Did I state otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 05:25 AM
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Just because someone is being honest about their preferences, doesn't mean I have to like them. Is that really THAT hard to grasp. I swear, some of you never learned basic logic in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 04:06 AM
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That number includes single mothers, and excludes marriages where the mother doesn't work at all. Please read closer into your own sources, especially if you're about to call someone ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:09 AM
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I don't feel like teaching a man how to have sex I don't know why, but despite far from being a virgin, women who think this way is a massive red flag to me. I think I know why I think this but too lazy to explain it rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:19 AM
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40% are breadwinners When you start with a claim as wrong as this you know it's gonna be a trash take.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:14 AM
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Women are notoriously terrible at gauging attractiveness, they rate 50% of men unnatractive. So to them while what you say is true, in reality it is not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 12:15 PM
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Mostly. Personality matters, but not much compared to how you look. I don't think there's a single experiment done that showed personality even having a 10th of the correlation looks has to attraction. As a guy ending up dating below your physical league is fairly common, given mens physical standards are more reasonable. As a woman, pretty rare, but can happen. Usually cuz he's rich or famous etc. IME intangibles can at most bump u up or down 1 point..and I'm being very generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:52 PM
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Yup what she meant to say was, men that can afford to have standards are attractive. But that's because they are already attractive. I've learned over the years is that women hardly understand their own attraction. They create some narrative in their head and retroactively apply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:42 PM
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I think he posts links hoping nobody reads them. He's never posted relevant data backing up any of his points.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:32 PM
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You've haven't met any of the men on this subreddit in real life. You have no idea of their social skills, prospects, or hygiene. You assume these things because youve succumb to just world fallacy. Those who complain, those who have issues, it must be something wrong with them, it couldn't be possibly something else. This is the analog of a rich person telling all poor people could be rich, they are just lazy, and dumb. This subreddit is getting so repetitious. The same illogical sht brought up…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:33 PM
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We aren't, that's a meme trotted out by old career women who can't find a man to make themselves feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 02:50 PM
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If a women is in to you, it won't seem very reactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 02:48 PM
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orgasm gap Is it really a gap if it's much easier for men to orgasm. Seems more like a logical outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 02:47 PM
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Jesus, lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 08:03 PM
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I think there are a few studies showing physical attractiveness being a major factor in spurring orgasms in women. "Getting it" may just be being hot rather than some technique. In my experience, most girls don't orgasm from PIV. Or at least say they dont. Its not clear to me if this is them trying to be nice, or I'm not hot enough for them to orgasm from PIV. A minority of girls I've dated take a proactive approach and literally just tell me what gets them off. And then we do that. And it's tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:56 PM
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Yeah I would say most men under the age of 30 are at least moderately red/black pilled. But idk tho I do see a lot of simps out there... But yeah as 80/20 turns into 90/10 it'll become more and more prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:15 PM
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Red pill is not a personality trait, so the premise of this post is already off base. Better off not following a script I doubt you know anything about what makes a man "better off" in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:38 AM
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Women dictating the smp has been a thing since humans were a thing. Women and education isn't relevant to this. Your statement about millennial men seems to be based on personal anecdotal experience, so I can't really take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:42 PM
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Because the average guy eventually gets a relationship doesn't mean the average guy is bp. That logic makes no sense. Also, I don't think the average guy is bp. And no. Average rp will do better. A big part of rp is understanding how important maxing out attractiveness is. Just on that alone means they will be far more successful. I'm not even rp and this much is obvious. I don't know who you're talking about, but I have seen the phrase "pay attention to what women do" which is very different th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:37 PM
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Men have a much higher sex drive, this isn't surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:28 PM
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empatheticgender
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:25 PM
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I'm not even in the "manosphere", but somehow I can tell this person isn't in it either. But I'm speak as a non blue pill. This post is quite disingenuous. "look at these people realizing mostly unspoken realities about women, stop doing that!". Then again it seems you get life creeds from girls on Twitter, not sure what I expected. I don't think RP and manosphere is "millennial dissatisfaction", its a reaction to rapidly changing female behavior. Women dictate the rules, what women want, men wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:22 PM
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It has become rare in the sense that women, due to a variety of factors have upped the standards of who will receive their love. There's a lot of love going around, just between a small subset of men and many women. I reject the premise that today's relationships have "more" love than ones partially born out of necessity. A lot of relationships today are still grounded on things that aren't "love".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:06 PM
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1 The truth is inherently valuable to noble people. 2 nobody expects a revolution, but perhaps all this BS gaslighting about men's dating issues will finally stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:09 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:06 AM
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I don't think men are the gender that has unrealistic expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:41 PM
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Also wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:37 PM
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If each women's 20% were diverse 80/20 wouldn't be real. The reason it exists is because women's preferences are very samey. Not sure why this "different 20%" for each woman comes from. It doesn't make mathematical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:42 AM
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Don't need to, I said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:37 PM
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It is very clear to me that PPD women don't actually talk to men IRL. Or at least not in any meaningful capacity on this topic lol. Men value casual sex because they have to work for it Loool what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:36 PM
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And thanks for being an example of the modern solipsistic woman. Here's an upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:33 PM
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Not belief, but fact of the modern era. In case you didn't know, a lot has changed in the last half century. You say these are beliefs when there is data out to prove it. Nobody seems to be able to provide contrary evidence. Instead it's just "I'm not like those women" blah blah. Except statistically you probably are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:31 PM
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Women have more options than men for sex and relationships, period. You do have it better. I don't understand why women on this sub have an intense desire to always be the victim. And wow what a false equivalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:28 PM
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Attractive men get dates extremely easily on these apps. So do women. Otherwise you don't get much. And yes there are certainly tons of fake women's profiles. Makes it even worse for men using the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:23 PM
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Not only is it not relevant. It's also flat out wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:39 AM
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Not if you're a woman or an attractive male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:07 PM
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There are enough non gold digger women to need to make the distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 03:16 PM
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I don't think PPD women actually interact with men in a meaningful way. If they did their opinions wouldn't be so detached from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:09 PM
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Do you ever read back to yourself what you post? None of this makes sense. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:03 PM
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Men don't wait for women who didn't make other men wait. They will wait for women who make other men wait. There is nothing confusing about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:19 PM
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We always find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:15 PM
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The problem isn't standards, but double standards, hypocrisy, and gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:13 PM
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Yes we should treat people as individuals. But I'm also not going to ignore hard data and observable trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:04 AM
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A small percentage of women, actually factor in personality as much as looks. They will sometimes bang guys in their league and maybe a bit lower. This is exceedingly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:58 AM
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Yeah true, I only take 5 a day. 10 will surely do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:43 AM
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Nope we aren't ignoring you, in fact the opposite. We're taking notice of what women actually do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:34 AM
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Most women over 25 I'd wager have far above that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:48 PM
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Remember the rule, multiply by 3
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:47 PM
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At that point it doesnt matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:44 PM
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He's Chad he's displaying his attractiveness by existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:54 PM
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The difference between a nice guy and a "nice guy" is how attractive he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:53 PM
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Those things are prerequisites. That's what women don't seem to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:52 PM
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In other words, Chad gets a pass for being manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:51 PM
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just interact with women Wow nobody ever thought of that! Hey guys, she cracked the code!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:49 PM
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This isn't a twist, it's just wrong. And we have data to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:54 PM
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Is this...satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:45 AM
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Of course women's standards have risen. This is not really up for debate. And yes men have a right to be mad. Does it make logical sense to be mad? Probably not. Better off channeling that energy elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:39 AM
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Just because you're a loser doesn't mean most men are. Thanks for sharing though?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:36 AM
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I never said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:09 PM
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U seem to have a loose grasp of the English language.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:08 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:07 PM
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No issues, just don't complain when they don't stick around or treat you badly or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:03 PM
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Yes porn addiction is bad. But watching porn somewhat regularly is different than porn addiction. most men don't have issues with porn addiction. So the theory that men are undateable due to porn usage is pretty stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:01 PM
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That's not what I said at all. But women's decisions have incentivized men to watch porn. Watching porn is still an individual decision. Also I don't watch porn so why are u referring to me specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:00 PM
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This makes no sense at all. Avg men date ugly women all the time. Because avg women still try to lock down attractive men so they have to settle often.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:56 PM
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Classic "it's men's fault post" Most men aren't addicted to porn Watching porn regularly does not equal addiction Men watch porn as a response to outrageous standards women have (which are only accelerating). Men do not prefer it to actual sex, but given the numbers the juice often isn't worth the squeeze. I agree on one part. If women do not want to settle for less than Chad, then yes they should prepared to die alone. Maybe they can finally shut up about "where are all the men" then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 07:54 PM
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Being good or bad is mostly orthogonal to dating success. Just be hot. The reason asshole theory gets thrown around is because women will put up with asshole Chad because tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:51 PM
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Lol no man is insecure about a women's status as a slut. It's not a high status moniker. It's not immature to not want to commit to a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:47 PM
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^ I don't know why this is so hard to understand for women lol. It's about respect and vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:45 PM
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Sexual history doesn't bother men. It helps them make decisions about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:43 PM
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Money yes, sex no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:40 PM
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I think it's not a crazy conclusion looking at social media, shopping trends, and psychological differences between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:38 PM
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If that were actually true women wouldn't date at all. it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:57 PM
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Ah yes the ol' having a large selection of food to choose from is worse than starving argument, only on PPD can u hear such tomfoolery.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:34 PM
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They have more choice period. You are better of having options to try and discard if they don't work, than not having any options at all. If you want to find your favorite flavor of ice cream, having many flavors to choose from is better than not having any flavors at all. This is basic logic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:23 PM
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Ugly girls still have more choice than ugly guys. But yes the uglier u are the harder it is, but it's still much harder for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:18 PM
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Ok I guess I have to spell this out. Same amount of sex And More non sexually active men Means More woman banging Chad than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:16 PM
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No. Women to a more significant degree have more choice. Men do not. Choice is the first step. The fact that women choose poorly doesnt mean women have it harder. And even if they choose poorly it's quite easy to find another.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:07 PM
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I see. Interesting perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:02 PM
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Your flair should give you a hint
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 10:01 PM
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It is known.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:57 PM
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Lol no. You are minority in this thinking. Men don't like promiscuous women because it correlated with certain undesirable behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:56 PM
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People maturing later (is this even true?) Has nothing to do with this. The same amount of sex is occurring, just with a small subset of men and a large subset of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:52 PM
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Lolol yeah that's it. They are studying too much. Someone oughta frame the rebuttals in this thread they are hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:50 PM
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Nah. Women's standards for who they want to bang have simply shot through the roof due to social media. Less sex isn't happening, it's just among a small set of men. Women really don't mind sharing Chad at all. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:45 PM
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Of course, because obviously this is all men's fault /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:42 PM
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We've been at 80/20, it's worse now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 09:40 PM
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Sure that's fine, but most people do not find watching porn as bad as making it. Those "many" is most definitely a minority. And that makes sense, as the social connotations around each are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:15 PM
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Do you have a strong jawline? Then it doesn't matter. If you don't, full beard is better. Generally whatever looks more attractive. It's usually clear what looks better. Not rocket science
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:12 PM
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Watching porn and making porn are very different things. Judging one more harshly than the other isn't inconsistent. Nice try at a "gotcha" tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:10 PM
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90% of posts by women on this sub are attacking wild strawmen, this is no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:03 PM
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Choosing to shame or not shame, does it matter? If it makes people feel better why not. It may not change anything, but it's not hurting anyone either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:16 PM
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In what universe are women more self sufficient? Men are far more independent and less homogenized. They invent more, work harder, spend less, and are less of a tax burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:11 PM
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I think you might just be old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:25 PM
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Don't bother, she never debates in good faith. And only constructs strawmen to fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:23 PM
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Press x to doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 04:33 AM
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The definition of responsibility, or taking responsibility, doesn't change depending on the gender using the word. That's besides the point though, this wasnt supposed to be a super serious comment anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:39 PM
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The year is 2021. Woman asks what responsibility is. Christ, we are doomed aren't we?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:32 PM
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It's not a solution because girls want to bang Chad, even if he is an asshole. Girls don't bang guys because they are mad at them what kind of logic is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:30 PM
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choose perfectly Based on how many women complain about dating, sounds like they can't even choose even close to perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:28 PM
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I'm gonna tell you youre full of shit. A women doesn't need to be much more than not fat to be found attractive. An Instagram model isn't the barrier for attractive. It's far past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:16 PM
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Your stats about online dating are several years old. Pretty sure more than half of relationships are started online today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:10 PM
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You don't know what a Slayer is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:09 AM
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Can I get a source on that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 04:17 AM
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average guy shooting with finesse is much hotter women understand the courage it takes to approach Yeah. No. I've never met a Slayer who wasn't attractive. Ever. There's a good reason for that. But don't take my word for it check speed dating results. Women feel good around hot guys. They mistake this for "being magnetic", or being good at "flirting". It's called the Halo effect and it has a huge effect on how women perceive personality in men. Nice guys are convenient designation for women when…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:08 AM
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good looking cat Lololol. People aren't rationalizing anything, he's not a Chad. Hahaha wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:00 AM
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Nah. Men love ig models for sure but the barrier for a woman to be considered attractive is much lower than that. Men rate half of women attractive on a normal distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:59 AM
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You posted a paper which literally stated a positive correlation between height and choice and mating success and are claiming blackpill is wrong. Are u daft?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:57 AM
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women are happier with the men they choose Hmm idk about that. Divorce rates would imply otherwise but that's probably not a good proxy for relationship happiness anyway. Otherwise yeah I agree. Womes standards are crazy, but let them have them. They wont all get what they want and men don't have to settle for leftovers unless they want to. Live and let live. I think the annoying part is hearing women complaining about dating, when it literally has never been easier for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:56 AM
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Define rich
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:51 AM
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All evidence seems to indicate men have normalized standards, while women have fairly skewed standards. Hence the rise of the 80/20 "rule". So yeah the premise of this post is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:49 AM
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Did u just link a study on monkeys? Lol. Ok bud u got it chief 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:44 AM
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I've read this before, look closely at how they measure attractiveness. Kudos to you for actually posting a paper though, more than most do here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:37 AM
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Maybe u should u dunce. Perhaps u wouldve have written a post more coherent than this if u had.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:32 AM
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Again wrong, but being physically attractive men and being chased by women are so closely tied together I can see why u could get that mixed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:29 AM
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Nah not even close. 30 is where the difficulty starts ramping up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:28 AM
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Chad isn't a fictional character. And no it is not the equivalent of gender reassignment. Lol what are u on? Chad is just a physically attractive male. Stop overcomplicating things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:26 AM
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I guess I should specify, as ppl get older other things start mattering, namely money. But you can see why this result may not be desirable if one is aware of why this happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:23 AM
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Yes, this dictates whether it is a short term or long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:45 AM
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You can't imitate good genetics. This is where RP goes off the rails.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:38 AM
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Mostly true. It can happen but it's pretty rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:37 AM
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"just become rich and famous bro" Lol. Meanwhile as a woman just exist and not be fat. It's pretty weird that you think blackpill = giving up. Finding a relationship isn't everything. And with women the way they are these days, it's becoming less and less. Blackpill is just admission that a majority of a women's attraction is bases on how you look (with some exceptions). Doesn't mean you stop living life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:36 AM
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Wanting to have the same level of desire as women != wanting to be women. This post is kinda dumb. Most men would rather be Chad than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:25 AM
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This is your brain on feminism. The only thing men are "mad" (more like laugh at) about is women with high standards with nothing to offer themselves. They get old, and complain incessantly about lack of good men and the patriarchy. Women want to be independent, but still eschew responsibility for anything. If you really want to know the truth men don't give a damn about "controlling women". Never have save for fringe extremists. Men want women for children, sex, and to make their lives a little…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:57 PM
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Women in their forties have reasonable standards, but not by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:43 PM
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Or maybe just vet better. Men aren't that good at lying. I never can really buy the "he was fine for months and then suddenly hes an asshole". 99% of the time, the signs were there, she ignored, cuz you know, tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:36 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:47 PM
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Imagine listening to a woman for dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:31 PM
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You don't need to be, because if you were right you would have posted the data that supported your claim. But it doesn't exist so you didn't. Thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:28 PM
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Nope, compare paid + unpaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 11:06 PM
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Show me the stats
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:55 PM
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Men work more hours in marriage even when factoring in housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:50 PM
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Outright lies. Men do more work, even factoring in housework and chores. Nice try tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:46 PM
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Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 04:07 PM
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No, but overly political women are usually low quality. If your profile mentions your politics or you're wearing one of those stupid t shirts (e.g. future is female) it's a left swipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:04 AM
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I don't think reading comprehension is your strong suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 07:30 PM
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Holy hell this is cringe. MLK is rolling in his grave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:20 PM
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My point is most dynamics that occur stem from survival strategy, not a Boogeyman patriarchy. There wasn't a common belief among men to keep women down. True equality in any other time period would spell disaster for women. A large portion of women didn't even want the the vote, men helped that change. Getting us away from those times was done on the backs of men. Ergo men have really helped women much more then they have helped themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:17 PM
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went over to ask feminists Were you looking to get rid of a few brain cells?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:05 PM
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I didn't say oppression didn't exist. I specifically pointed that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:02 PM
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Something something empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:35 PM
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It's not that simple. Before modern civilisation women could not complete as equals in the free market. Period. You needed to hunt and fight. That's not oppression (though not saying oppression has never happened), that is just survival. Men provided, women produced children. That biological concept has guided our society until recently. When the requirement of physical strength to produce value waned, women were able to become independent. Through the technological advancements of mostly men, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:33 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 02:24 PM
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I don't know what that is. The post was deleted so I can't re read. But there was links to data and it sparked some good discussion. Also what qualifies it as "incel content"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:20 PM
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How was this post "woe is me" incel content?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:12 PM
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There's nothing more important for increasing your chances to get an LTR than attractiveness. This is a statistical fact. So while other things are important, this is still most important, by a large margin. I don't need to make assumptions because the data is already out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 12:03 PM
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I've used girls tinders, I felt like every other guy had professionally taken photos.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:59 AM
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Nah, a lot of us have at least one Slayer friend. You can see 80/20 in action, no dating app needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:58 AM
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holds remnants Ok what are they and how are they affecting women. You keep avoiding answering this question It's your biggest problem I find it very funny you keep trying to paint me as a loser. It's not gonna work. Since you enjoy meaningless numbers, I graduated from the #1 University in the world at the time I attended. I made 7 figures last year. I'll probs clear more this year. I have an IQ of roughly 130. I've got a decent social circle and have gotten with fairly attractive women. I'm doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:51 AM
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Not a relevant question really. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:55 AM
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Wait what? I don't disagree with anything u said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:53 AM
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men inherently more interested in violence Ooohhh so there are inherent gender preferences and inclinations??? WOAH. Maybe that might explain most or possibly all the differences between men and women, not a Boogeyman holding the women down. Who would've thunk? Women attempt suicide 3 times as much And yet still have lower suicide rates. You can take this as women being so inept they can't kill themselves properly, or these are more cries for help or attention than actual intent to kill. "Less i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:52 AM
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Cuz we have realistic standards. We don't demand supermodels if we are just average. We are content with someone at our level (and a lot of times, below our level). The same does not apply for women, hence guys resorting to dating way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:35 AM
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Most couples aren't looksmatched
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:31 AM
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No, it's a low iq take. An intellectually lazy way to play the victim. Who make up most of the jail population? The homeless population? Workplace deaths? Suicides? Who is falling behind in college attendance? Homicide victims? Harsher jail sentences? Who controls consumer spending? Who gets custody? But yeah, muh patriarchy. Nice ad hominem btw. Fastest way to show me you don't really have an argument. Just another intellectually void feminist. You are a dime a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:31 AM
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Just be positive bro. I love all the comments from women on this post. Can't really refute the data so it's just wishy washy non specific advice. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:19 AM
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Cool, stop gaslighting ppl about caring about personality tho. That's the annoying prt
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:17 AM
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Just leave the bubble bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:17 AM
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5% lied Hahhhaha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:16 AM
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Men by and large have done more for women than women have done for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:13 AM
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Or... Just don't waste your time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:10 AM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:06 AM
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You listed a bunch of mainstream stuff. But beyond that, Now it's mainstream to be "nerdy". A lot of girls realized by pretending to be nerds they can get alot of ppl to simp over them. So yeah a lot of men are attracted to these "nerds".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:47 PM
4

Lol quick and clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:20 PM
22

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 08:16 PM
9

You can say whatever you want, but until actual observed behavior actually reflects that, no man here is going to believe you. Men are logical, that's why we observe what women actually are versus what they claim to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:11 PM
13

Huh? What are you talking about? It was a humorous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 11:23 AM
1

Lol what a load of nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:08 AM
1

Literally anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:47 AM
2

Wait, what. Define racially charged?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 12:44 AM
16

Just go to parties bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 07:38 PM
4

Yup, pills are a response to changing female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 02:04 PM
25

Height, facial features, and race are far more important factors
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 12:15 PM
5

That could also be true. And there's a fairly logical basis for that. Since women give a pass to attractive men, there's less incentive for them to treat them well. In my experience I can't say I've seen that play out. Most attractive guys I know are ok people, but it's a small sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 05:16 AM
53

Imagine writing an essay to justify your shallow preferences in men. Couldn't be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:13 AM
12

Nah you're misunderstanding what men think about this completely (like most women do here). Men don't think good looking men treat women worse than ugly men by default. What they do know is that women put up with being treated badly by good looking men much much more than being treated badly by ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 04:11 AM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:32 AM
3

U see to her, these people don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:45 AM
4

Yeah people need to stop quoting this blindly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:43 AM
4

Lol. 1 your definition of marriageable sounds like wealthy 2 there are multitudes of women trying to bag attractive men who have their sht together 25 and under. They are unmarriageable in the sense that it takes a fairly high value women to get him to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 12:39 AM
5

Strawman. Nobody has issues holding out for a consistently chaste woman. People have issues when a women who was formerly not chaste wants to make you wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:08 PM
2

Perhaps, but women can bat even more out of their league than they usually do in SF
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:42 AM
-1

WMAF, name a better(?) duo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:07 AM
2

Theyre have been multiple experiments, one of which conducted by a dating website itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:06 AM
1

So you're paying her for sex? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:45 PM
5

Gender imbalance plus extremely wealthy dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:27 PM
6

If you're a woman doesn't matter as long as it's a large city. For absolute easy all cheats mode, pick SF. For men, it won't move the needle unless you go to third world countries and have the right complexion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:36 PM
5

women go for ugly men Not sure if I can take rest of this post seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:32 PM
1

Right, traditional norms. I ask to hang out with my friends all the time, we still split the bill. Again not trying to criticize how you operate, but your original reasoning does not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 09:29 PM
1

femcels This sounds like an absolute oxymoron hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:23 PM
9

Youre not addressing my point. A date is supposed to be a mutual thing. You're spending time, she is spending time. Why do you feel the need to pay for something you both are doing? Because you're the one who set things in motion? That seems to make even less sense. It's ok to pay, but your reasoning is more rooted in traditional norms than transactional logic, which is what you initially claimed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:22 PM
1

I am continually impressed by the stupidity expressed in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:13 PM
17

If the willingness to spend time together isn't mutual, why are you going on a date in the first place? So you're paying her to do something she doesn't want to do? Seems illogical to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:12 PM
9

You're also spending your own time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:07 PM
13

That's terrible reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:04 PM
25

The people who talk about dating success are likely to attribute it to things they can control. And thus, if you're not successful, they think you are doing something wrong. Irrational logic, but it's what people love to believe It's like a rich person telling a poor person they are poor because they didn't try enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:57 PM
11

According to recent data it's 30% among young men. That is a significant number. That was self reported too! Real numbers are probably worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:48 PM
18

Yeah its really a non statement
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:47 PM
13

They wouldn't be making anybody wet anyway. Because they are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:40 PM
2

No, it's a lie because it isn't true. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:39 PM
12

I sincerely hope no man takes this seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:37 PM
8

Most women do not have a strong self improvement mindset, so getting with a girl based on potential is a risky play.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:33 PM
21

I agree, always important to maximize what you got. However, for a lot of people, that won't ever be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:31 PM
38

"just change your genetics bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:00 PM
21

/endthread
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:00 PM
12

I'm not red pill. And red pillers don't hate women. Tbh you're part of the problem with this childish mentality. Everything a man points out that is negative about women is "misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:46 AM
5

When did I say anything about men's preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:43 AM
7

"resentful of the women they are trying to date". Yeah this is utter bullsht.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:43 AM
87

I also tell poor people money won't really make them that much happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:39 AM
9

It's also easy to classify any statement on how superficial women's preferences are as "finding excuses". stop with the Kafka traps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:35 AM
3

Game is subset of personality/behavior by definition. As u know this does not matter much, so can't say I can take your experience as generalizable in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:28 AM
11

It is simple, but nobody wants it to be. Thats why these forums and arguments exist. Nobody likes being reduced to "simple" even though most adhere observable and strong trends. So people will spend endless time, saying "women are complex", or "I'm not like that", etc. Everybody wants to be unique, especially when it comes to dating, even though it is one of the most painfully predictable things there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:26 AM
5

You learned to not be socially awkward. Yes being aturbo autismo can mess up anyone's chances, even if you're attractive. Either way good for you, but I've never ever seen game change a woman from no to yes. Which makes sense given what we know about how little personality/behavior affects initial attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:16 AM
8

Ah yes one of the most famous actors in the world, great example. I think you've more than proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:03 AM
9

Didn't say it was the same. But it isn't complex. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 02:01 AM
9

a lot of women have a thing for mind ugly men I need to know which planet you're from.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:57 AM
8

Lolol this is one part of RP that is straight up pseudo science and exists to sell people crappy self help books. You've got to wonder why masters of seduction in movies and such are all attractive, perhaps because without that, it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:51 AM
10

It just so happens women "vibe" with more attractive men. They must be better people /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:48 AM
8

All data points to the exact opposite of what you said being true. Women only care about your personality if they find you physically attractive. Women find a small percentage of men physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:46 AM
13

sexuality is complex When will this meme stop
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:43 AM
5

Look harder. Game is essentially another word for personality, which does not move the needle much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:42 AM
3

Meh, game at best can up you 1 point. And I'm being extremely generous. Realistically, it does absolutely nothing. Flattering pictures are important though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 01:41 AM
0

🙄 can't tell if serious. Finding a religious girl isn't a panacea to the awalt problem and if that's the best you got as for advice, lol. then again not sure what I was expecting from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 08:14 PM
0

My point you're assuming religious girls aren't awalt, which I'm not so sure is true. Not to mention, what if I'm not religious, then what.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 07:45 PM
2

"chads life is just as bad as yours because he made bad life choices vs you being unchangeably disadvantaged" Lol this reminds me of those posts saying women have a harder time dating than men. Like women, chads issues are almost entirely self inflicted
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 07:23 PM
1

What exactly do you think I'm looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 07:20 PM
1

Also to add, assuming religious girls aren't as shallow as non religious girls is also a stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 07:20 PM
2

"Just move to Iowa bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 07:18 PM
7

"just find a unicorn bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 03:50 PM
2

The guy I replied to, not you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 01:24 PM
2

Not all blackpillers are incels, so you're already offbase. And it isn't inherent defeatist either. So yeah maybe learn a bit more about it first before throwing random labels out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 06:40 AM
4

You seriously lack critical thinking skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 06:34 AM
3

You make assumptions about people you don't know every day, hundreds, maybe even thousands of times. This isn't really an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 04:06 AM
1

science obsessed freaks People with basic understanding of psychology are "freaks". Look, if you're happier believing romance is magic, go ahead, ignorance is bliss. I suppose flat earthers and climate change deniers are also happy in their own little world of ignorance. But calling people freaks because they don't believe your mythical concept of romance that isn't reflected in the real world is asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 01:34 AM
2

Not really, those studies explicitly claim the possibility of screwing up cause and effect. E.g. happier/healthier men choose to get married, not marriage creates happier men. Key to an indentured servant Or the key to losing half your wealth. Given divorce rates, divorce laws, hypergamy, you making the claim that men are the parasitical entity in marriage is pretty hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 03:02 PM
9

I agree, but people are saying that the top 20% are varied among women which isn't true. My point is, of you took 100 women and put them at a party and asked them who the 5 hottest people in the room were, there would not be much variation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 02:55 PM
2

Are you asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 09:03 AM
3

That 15% does not differ much among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 09:02 AM
0

It is true, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 09:00 AM
11

Yup women don't really know what an average guy looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:58 AM
15

Wrong. There is a top 20%, and it's fairly concentrated. If women had a diverse top 20%. Then there wouldn't be a top 20% by definition. Women's preferences are not that diverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:56 AM
5

Thy name is lillith, destroyer of strawmen. Rich nerd more attractive than broke supermodel Looooool. Hahahahahah. Wait...lmaooo. no
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 10:39 PM
25

Equality, yay /s. Armed with this knowledge men should be even more careful when choosing to marry. It's a worse deal every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 10:36 PM
2

capable, secure, men aren't synonymous with losers Depends on how attractive you are
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 02:38 PM
2

Never said it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:11 AM
3

Tame compared to the way women treat unattractive men. I don't think it's right, but understand this RP rage is partly a reaction to changing gender dynamics. I think most of RP is wack but even I can see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:22 PM
3

Seriously, it's mind boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:14 PM
2

With a healthy dose of just world fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:29 AM
7

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:25 AM
5

And again, that last paragraph is patently false. Why are you contradicting yourself. You just admitted that looks get you in the door, but now it's behavior? Men can't fathom it because it's not true. And we have eyes. You're living in fantasy land.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:22 AM
0

Counter counter point, some of those things are not very accessible, and if they were they would decrease women's smv considerably.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:19 AM
10

Op implied "presence" (whatever TF that means, So I assume it's some derivative of personality) raises SMV. It doesn't. RMV, perhaps, but also a dubious claim because of the Halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 03:16 AM
42

Zero evidence to support this. Female arousal is highly correlated to looks. In fact you claim that men care more about looks than women which is false. There is not a single study or experiment confirming this. In fact it's quite the opposite. Why do people bother posting ridiculous opinions with not even a semblance of data or logic to back it up. It doesnt matter what pill u are, if you don't cross an attractiveness barrier as a guy its not gonna happen (with certain exceptions). Having a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:57 AM
20

Most of us want true romance Lol. One of the biggest mainstream lies is that women are the romantic gender. It is the opposite. Guys do the stupidest things for women that aren't worth their salt everyday. I've asked them, why. Why. Why. And they unironically want to fix, console, protect, help, etc and they love her. Even though she brings nothing to the table compared to him. They are broke, have emotional issues, drug addictions, debt, mental disorders, family issues. They aren't even hot. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 07:34 PM
1

I agree, but these are high quality men who most of the time are out of their league. With age expectations become moderated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 07:17 PM
3

Women do not "settle for anything" unless they are getting old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 03:56 PM
2

Most men don't have the options to be selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:58 PM
8

Here we go again. Different problems, but magnitude of these problems are miles apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:54 PM
5

if you're unattractive If you're attractive it doesn't matter what you like. Girls won't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 03:40 AM
7

A HVW would fulfill the same standards I set for myself. The issue is there are like .1% of women who could do that. And of those, their standards are past Jupiter. But yeah in general it is so much easier for women to have value vs is a man, since men are far less shallow and indiscriminate in mate choice. Imo actual hvw are unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 11:46 AM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 11:36 AM
5

Nice guys don't finish last, ugly guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:08 AM
13

Lol there are plenty, you just don't notice them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:06 AM
1

That is literally what Chad is. You can have your own definition if you want but you'll end up looking kinda dumb using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 11:33 PM
2

Nope. Very attractive men are not a strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 09:02 PM
6

Nah I'm yawning at your lack of logical thinking. Chad is a very attractive man. That's it. They exist. And you thinking they don't is pure lunacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 07:21 PM
5

Yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:21 PM
0

They do, theyre invisible to them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 06:18 PM
2

There are plenty of men who want serious relationships under 30, they are just invisible to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:27 PM
6

Nobody thinks he's a Chad, but he is without a doubt substantially above average
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:47 PM
11

Nah, I think what we now realize is that women are ruthlessly shallow when it comes to attraction. And we should be wary of women who have a history of Chad chasing, especially if you aren't Chad, to avoid a beta bux situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:46 PM
5

Exactly zero, can u point me to some?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:37 PM
5

He is above average, but not Chad. Nobody is saying he's Chad. He wouldn't get approached a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:43 PM
19

You don't understand, with women and framing men's dating problems it goes like this: If you are successful - u tried hard, had a good personality, and respect women If you aren't - you hate women, something is wrong with your personality, women can sense your misogyny, u didnt try
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:39 PM
7

How in the world did you come to this conclusion from this post. if anything you should come to the opposite conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:35 PM
3

By choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:30 PM
6

It was metaphorical, we know from numerous studies what makes a man attractive to a woman. Not that men needed a study to know that, a few nights bar hopping will get you educated real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:11 PM
8

I got a degree from the school of "having literally eyes". Im not telling you, women told me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:07 PM
7

Honestly your comments demonstrate a remarkable low iq. I mean who else could make such dumb comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:05 PM
19

Given the women on PPD, this guy is likely out of the league of 80-90 percent of them. Assuming hes at least normal in social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:03 PM
5

Maybe thats better than reading these delusional comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:00 PM
15

Yup the rare shy Chad. Or in this case maybe Brad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:59 PM
2

In America he is definitely above average. But yeah I can see him bring pretty normal in Nordic countries. Compared to us Americans slightly above average there is almost Chad here. when my Norwegian friends visit, they slay like crazy over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:57 PM
2

Lol oh man I wonder if 80/20 has gotten even worse since the OKC study. "Below average facially" looool
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:54 PM
25

This thread is a giant blackpill, in B4 lock
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:52 PM
9

Well duh that is the point
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:51 PM
7

We already know what they find attractive, you're the one who is clueless. You say idealistic things like women have a complex framework of assessing attractiveness. They don't. It's actually very simple and we have the data that shows it. You have nothing but a wish to make women seem more noble then they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:51 PM
7

No, women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:48 PM
4

Harsh, but yeah generally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:38 PM
9

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:37 PM
4

🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:37 PM
1

Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:15 PM
0

These studies didn't ask women what they want. They were based on what women actually did. Women will tell you all day long about how much personality matters, but in general, it is not true, unless you are sufficiently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 09:34 PM
0

Possible, but rare. but since we're talking about outliers already (women dating down in attractiveness) then yeah maybe more likely among this group.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 09:31 PM
-1

There is not a single study supporting this. By and large, physical attractiveness is the #1 predictor of sexual attraction from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 09:27 PM
2

Bro stop, you are out of your element here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 09:25 PM
13

Rape isn't common enough for us to factor it in heavily into any of our decisions in a meaningful way. I don't distrust other men even though they commit most violent crimes. Why? Because most men don't commit violent crimes. Couple this with the extremely broad definition of rape used these days and a lot of women choosing to date abusive men, will result in apathy, and for understandable reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:59 PM
17

Online dating is the new norm
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:52 PM
17

Or alternatively, women are more shallow than men. You truly have mastered the art of turning any fact about dating into an attack on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 07:51 PM
1

I have empathy for trauma that isn't self induced. Most of the time when women talk about their relationship traumas, it is almost entirely self caused. I have female friends that have gone through real trauma, and we have created deep bonds discussing it. But empathizing with a girl who wants to take things slow because the previous 6 guys she dated and slept with on the 2nd or 3rd date ended up abusing her? Nah, thats called being a sucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 05:07 PM
8

You said it was debunked, you prove it. You simply claimed it wasn't true while providing a link to an experiment confirming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 11:06 AM
9

80/20 has not been debunked. And it doesn't just come from OKC.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 10:53 AM
56

Being nice is irrelevant. The nice guy meme is a convenient way for women to dismiss when ugly guys are interested in them to make them seem less shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 03:59 AM
3

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 10:33 PM
1

Damn, destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 09:59 PM
5

I wouldn't say more, just more comparatively to when they were in their twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:53 PM
1

Lol no. Maybe the top 5% though. You get invited to all sorts of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 12:41 PM
8

Imagine eating food poisoning for nearly a decade when you had other edible options available. This sounds like a self inflicted problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 12:33 PM
20

Now you are just being pedantic. Replace those words with "in general" or "on average". Happy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:48 AM
15

No. More like, "would you rather starve, or have to choose from a menu with 200 items to eat".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:36 AM
17

Ah yes, pointing out basic truths about modern dating that portrays women in a slightly less than positive light = incel. The memes really do write themselves here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:31 AM
24

Doesn't matter, all things equal, a woman has more options. You've chosen a strange illogical hill to die on. Extreme abundance > scarcity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:26 AM
19

This is some next level hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:21 AM
28

"but rape!" 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 11:18 AM
5

Knowledge is a tool, what u make of it is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:36 AM
5

Yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 11:05 PM
2

A lot of implicit offers, less explicit ones. Taken more than most think, less than what many men on here would like to think. the famous girls on Instagram make enough money that they can easily ignore most of these offers. The further down the more receptive they are. Source: friend deep in the influencer space.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 06:11 PM
8

I'm not threatening anybody with anything. Also apparently your study has been exposed as a fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:06 PM
2

None of that will have a chance to play a role if you aren't attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 03:28 AM
31

It's already tacitly accepted now under the guise of casual dating. Girls don't mind sharing a Chad when they aren't settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 03:27 AM
21

Arent recent studies concluding women are getting unhappier every year while men are basically staying the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 03:24 AM
6

As a guy: be tall, not fat, with above average facial features, and light skin As a woman: not fat, average or above facial features, some semblance of a shapely figure Generally, if you are a 8+ as a guy on average women will find you attractive. Generally, if you are a 5-6+ as a woman on average men will find you attractive. After you've crossed those barriers above you need to then have a personality that appeals to a lot of the other gender. I'm not sure if there's a single personality that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:28 AM
12

Seems like you're the one projecting your personal desires on to all of women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 10:55 AM
18

Example #67352 of a woman not knowing literally anything about average men. Move on nothing to see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 10:46 AM
10

Just try harder bro. lol classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 10:43 AM
1

Not comparable 1 the chance of a man assaulting a woman after a rejection is quite low, so factoring this in as a major dating problem is a bit disingenuous. 2 men make up a large majority of violent crime victims
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 10:38 AM
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Ah the classic "you've got to be happy alone to be happy together" Not true. Plenty of emotionally damaged people have no issues finding relationships. Especially women. And they do just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 10:39 AM
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What a dumb question. The chance of sexual assault on any given day is miniscule. How many young men compared to young women aren't having sex? How many choices does the average man vs the average women have for a partner? How hard is it for a man to be considered attractive vs a woman? And so on and so on. This "but rape" argument is not sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 10:24 AM
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Men not getting sex is not a rare occurrence. Do you even hear what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 10:05 AM
7

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 10:03 AM
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The relatively rare occurrence of such scenarios makes your point mute.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 09:58 AM
3

Real talk, no. Murder rape is such a rare occurrence that factoring it in to this discussion is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 09:55 AM
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No, I'm correct, as evidenced by your petty response.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 09:52 AM
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Oh no, poor women, they have to deal with so many choices and attention. I also scream woe is me when entering an ice scream store due to all the flavors available to me. Its just so difficult. Yes women and men both deal with dating problems, but don't try to pretend for a second they are equal problems or of the same magnitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:30 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:18 AM
4

The term chubby chaser exists for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:37 AM
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I know a few people making 5-10 times that and still have trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:19 AM
12

Man women really are oblivious to men's dating experience. 1 everybody in SV has money, so money isn't a differentiator 2 none of that matters if youre not physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 12:14 AM
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lol at thinking tech money helps. Perhaps if you're looking to bb then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:19 PM
2

Counter study to a study I still haven't seen? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:41 PM
0

It might as well not matter a lot compared to attractiveness is my point. That page does not have anything but a summary without details of how much personality affects attractiveness. It just said it does have an affect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:39 PM
1

https://ifstudies.org/blog/better-educated-women-still-prefer-higher-earning-husbands https://www.npr.org/local/305/2020/02/18/807050015/more-couples-are-embracing-female-breadwinners-despite-decades-old-stigma
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:36 PM
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Nah. For acquiring both short term and long term relationships, physical attractiveness is most important. It matters a little less for long term. But personality is still far behind I'd say. with modern dating the gap has probably narrowed. But you are painfully oblivious to how dating works nowadays so not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:31 PM
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Can u post the actual paper. I tried to get to it from that page but it goes to a dead link. It does not mention to what degree it affects perceived attractiveness. I doubt its anywhere near the effect of just being hot. Which is the point being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:26 PM
1

Not sure when this study was done, but it isn't the case now as verified by labor statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 03:19 PM
1

Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:17 PM
0

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:35 AM
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Not sure, but women on this sub definitely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 05:34 AM
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Nope we just aren't as shallow. But you can describe it however way you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 02:18 AM
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Nice strawman, talking about != bitching.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:15 PM
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Press x to doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:36 PM
2

Yeah this isn't true in the slightest. Ugly guys don't date hot girls anyway so it doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:35 PM
1

I'm sure you thought u sounded smart here, but you really didn't. What are you trying to say. Speak clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:01 PM
2

Ok good for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:23 PM
1

Given this sounds like being attractive is extremely important given the lack of "smart" girls. It's almost as if in general women don't care about personality nearly as much as looks. Ah wait we are back to the original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:23 PM
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Somehow, women losing basic houseworking skills is men's fault. Lolol. The reason a lot of women suck today is the attitude you just displayed. The willingness to blame others and never look inward.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:19 PM
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There seem to be a lot of dumb girls out there then
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:13 PM
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According to an OkCupid survey, women found 80% of men unattractive. Seems like women don't agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 02:11 PM
2

See women-are-wonderful effect
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 04:02 AM
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"I am immune to widely undisputed psychological behavior". Not saying youre lying, but understand why a lot of people wouldn't really believe this given what they witness in real life and what the science says.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 03:58 AM
1

I don't really know much about that sub so can't say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:00 AM
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The point is, if you're attractive you are given a pass on creepiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 11:58 PM
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asks for data Receives data No no not that data
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:30 PM
17

Oh yeah 100%. Game is mostly a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:24 PM
6

Just read the Wikipedia article on the Halo effect
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 09:42 PM
10

Yeah for sure, it's a defense mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 09:20 PM
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Well this is a commonly observed phenomena called the Halo effect. So again, you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 09:19 PM
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The difference in treatment average women give to good vs ugly looking men is wild. You know what's weird, 8-10 women don't do this nearly as much. Sure they still aren't going to date an ugly dude. But they usually aren't actively hostile like average/ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 09:03 PM
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Can be, but is much less likely to be perceived as creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 09:00 PM
1

And I'm saying all that is irrelevant if you're good looking. There is no "right timing" if you're ugly. If you're Chad it's always the right timing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 08:59 PM
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Lol no. Women make exceptions for Chad all the time. Also nobody is angry at Chad. Pointing out attractive men's extreme advantage in dating due to extreme female standards is not anger at Chad. It's just pointing out simple facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:45 PM
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Nice strawmanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:40 PM
1

Yeah exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 04:36 PM
2

Eh I'm not sure I fully recommend that either. Just don't put a relationship on a super high pedestal. Don't simp, don't double text, dont spend money on dates, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:54 PM
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You know if women defined rape culture this way I wouldn't even be mad. It be the first time in awhile women would be honest about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:51 PM
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Well yeah it's gonna be tough. That's how it is these days. Hypergamy, online dating, and choice paralysis, has made women very very picky. My advice is to do your own thing and don't break your back trying to find relationships, not worth the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:42 PM
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If a woman is rejected, it's usually because the guy is taken or is out of her league. I've never, literally never, seen a woman ask out a guy less attractive than her. Guys get rejected by people in their league all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:33 PM
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They will break these rules if you're famous or rich enough. Holding frame and style don't do anything. This is the part of red pill that is bogus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:30 PM
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Out of all the countries I've visited, Australia had the largest attractiveness gap between males and females. Not only are the guys decently good looking, the girls are pretty mediocre looking. It was bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:26 PM
1

Ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 06:38 PM
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Because a small but growing number of men realize they are usually one of many dudes a woman is talking to and putting in the time at the start is a bad ROI. Smart guys know if they are keeping the conversation going, or have to double text, etc they need go into low effort mode because that's likely ending nowhere. This might not apply to your specific case, but you get the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:50 PM
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This is some next level pseudo-intellectual male bashing with some extreme strawmanning tossed in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:02 AM
1

Nobody asked you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 11:56 PM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 11:56 PM
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See what I said above. Good on you for telling the truth though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 11:55 PM
3

Ask again, or talk to her friends. It usually comes out one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 11:54 PM
2

Usually I just ask again. Or a third time if it's obvious she's lying. It's usually 3-4 times higher than the original number.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 11:52 PM
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For women multiply by 3-5, men divide by 1.5-2. This has been stunningly accurate in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:53 PM
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Quality girls don't ride the CC. If Chad is smart he'll get one of them without too much trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 02:33 AM
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So you have nothing but anecdotal evidence, as I expected. As such, my point still stands. Thanks for playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 02:30 AM
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Their own* not others. I already knew this. It says nothing about how men rate other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 08:20 PM
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Can u show me a study where men rate other men on a skewed distribution? You said it's been documented, show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:59 PM
1

Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:58 PM
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Don't look at me, that's what the data shows
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:55 PM
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You gotta adjust for the skewed physical ratings women give men. She probably considers a dude that's a 7 a 4. Unless she's living around very very rich guys, I would take this with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 08:55 AM
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Having access to relationships doesn't automatically mean access to mutually beneficial, healthy, or loving relationships. Access to relationships is necessary to get one though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:42 PM
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It's valuable to me, but only as an indicator of character, similar to n-count. If a woman makes good money, she probably has a skilled and/or demanding job. To get and keep that job you probably need to have a good work ethic, organizational skills, good planning etc. I don't actually care about the money itself (I make more than enough).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:39 PM
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It's also sufficient for many cases. But not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:09 AM
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ppd women be like: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/582/360/ba9.png
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:04 AM
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Yikes, more blue pill nonsense, but as a mental exercise let's go through this. What I noticed is that their level of evidence is almost entirely internet-based : instagram comments, youtube videos or some thirst tweets about Henry Cavill . Either that or some statistic that validates their confirmation bias. Ah yes 'some statistic'. You can't dismiss data driven experiments as simply 'some statistic'. Nice try at handwaving that away. It's the average or below average women who seek the casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:01 AM
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You didn't do any research at all. I'm not going to teach you how to use Google.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:04 PM
2

What does that have to do with anything, did you read their old blog posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 08:00 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 07:07 PM
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I agree, I do think it's better, but not by that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 02:46 PM
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Lol OkCupid literally wrote multiple blog posts on how they weren't different from tinder despite their focus on profile descriptions and compatibility rankings. In the end all that stuff didn't matter, or mattered slightly at best. I really do wonder, are you trolling with these posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 02:45 PM
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I don't think you even understand what you write honestly. I am a single person. I do not control the way people act. Whether it's OKC, Tinder, or others it does not matter. The same dynamics occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 02:22 PM
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Nearly half of all relationships are now started online. It's not that shallow people use tinder, it's that people are shallow, period. Dating dynamics of tinder don't really differ that much from IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 02:11 PM
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I never said they weren't punished, read my comment again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 01:59 PM
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Not sure what universe you live in, but unless Stacy is borderline autistic, she's not getting with anyone below an 8. Women aren't nearly as punished in the dating market for social disabilities as men are. Overall though yes, social capacity can reduce attractiveness for both men and women, but at extremely different degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 01:32 PM
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Women have sex with hot guys, in casual or non casual settings. This environment nonsense is a load of junk. Just be hot. That's how u get casual sex. That is 90% of it. Attractive people can literally order sex on hook up apps. Tinder exists for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:32 AM
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This... Is a troll post right? Literally everything in this post is demonstrably false.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:59 PM
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Lol this is some serious mental gymnastics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:39 PM
0

Do you have evidence men rate other men on the same skewed curve? I haven't seen any. Not self ratings, assessment of others. Which study are you talking about? Your last statement doesn't even make sense. No gender is more beautiful than the other. It is all based on a relative scale. The most attractive man is a 10, the most attractive woman is a 10. this concept isn't hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:58 AM
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This is why we use data not anecdotes to form conclusions. The trope is not real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:08 AM
9

Black/red pills expose some ugly truths about dating, and women. People don't take kindly to things that put them in a bad light or doesn't match up with their perception of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:19 AM
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The guy is usually hotter than the girl. Women will say otherwise but that's because they grade men on a harsher and skewed distribution. In reality the man is usually more attractive. If the man is truly uglier, he's probably very rich and or famous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 01:13 PM
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Dismantled the entire post in a sentence. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 02:31 AM
1

Weird that's what the MSM also says (well that at least women do). So is the MSM reality or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 11:48 PM
1

Do you agree that women don't care about personality and looks are paramount?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 09:14 PM
2

We do have different problems in different areas of life. Most problems women have today in terms of dating are entirely self inflicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:14 PM
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Key word much. We have entire movements for body positivity in the msm. Doesn't really sound like we live in a society that hates fat people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:09 PM
2

I stand corrected, I was thinking about the wrong guy, she married down physically for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:07 PM
0

Well... Yes? Being overweight has serious health effects. That isn't good. Also u are strawmanning. There isn't much hate for far girls, just people who won't date them. But even then that isn't even quite true, plenty of cubby chaser men exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:25 PM
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She didn't marry down at all
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:22 PM
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Women do the same thing in the sexual market, to an even greater degree by ensuring these alphas get a large majority of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:13 PM
1

Wow you definitely showed me!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:51 PM
4

This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:47 PM
1

Wow you are pretty clueless. I really wonder how people get through life without an ounce of critical thinking, boggles my mind. Go start with the ok Cupid blogs and tinder experiments. And if you want more rigorous material there is plenty of psych papers on this. So, bring some good data or stop talking. Your "real life experience" is hardly quantifiable or sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:47 PM
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You're daft, if he was ugly he would been reported and banned within an hour
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:35 PM
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Congrats? Not sure why you'd even bring that up. As if your anecdotal experience (which you probably misinterpreted anyway) is enough to make claims about anything. Bring some actual substantive evidence of your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:32 PM
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Depends on who's giving the advice. Reasonable blackpillers give the best advice. Followed by reasonable red pillers Blue pill advice is the least useful and borderline detrimental. I say blackpill is the most useful because it probably has the most data backing it. It's also the most simple advice. Nothing will improve your dating life more than becoming more physically attractive. This is known and undeniable. One you've achieved a physical peak, then use RP to achieve marginal gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:00 PM
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your social intelligence matters most This is zero evidence to support this. You talk like you know about how relationships work, but you really don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 10:53 PM
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Don't even bother, he doesnt care about the truth, he just wants his just world fallacy reinforced. He's not debating in good faith and nor does he want to. He'll likely never understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 10:50 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:14 AM
1

I would say it's harder to find one of these sahm women if you're upper class than otherwise. I'm a 1%er and it's never worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:04 PM
8

Damn he brought the receipts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:00 PM
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"I'm not like the other girls" Now I'm not saying you are, but understand almost every girl thinks/says this so men are understandable skeptical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:58 PM
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It is not much more effective if you're not at least average looking. And even then it's not too much of a boost. most likely you'll end up alone but with less money. If you do decide to try it, make sure it's something you actually like, so when u fail to pick up a chick it's not a complete waste of time/money
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:56 PM
1

Not if you're attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:23 PM
2

I think this post was trying to give advice but was really just regurgitated blue pill nonsense with a side of strawman and a dressing of condescension. It's this kind of fucking self absorbed masculinity that pisses me off so much because even though your body count ascends, how are you growing as a human being? I dont care for the red pill, but it pretty sure it encourages self improvement. That is growing as a human being. For someone with little sexual experience, getting more IS growth. Inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:24 PM
1

Are you seriously trying to argue that men take less responsibility for themselves than women? Lolol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 12:58 PM
4

Lol you're a woman, online dating is a walk in the park. You'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 12:56 PM
2

Not always, but highly correlated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:59 PM
93

"here's why being sexually deprived in your youth and being settled for later for your money is a good thing!" No. Nobody says you have to wife up every person you date. The issue is a lot of men can't even get to the dating part. They don't even have the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:58 PM
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She has no idea what she's talking about. This was an unintentional troll post. And lol at complaining about high 'porn' standards from men when we all know women's standards have shot through the roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:01 AM
20

This is projection at its finest
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 10:55 AM
1

Dating app stats say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:15 AM
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Women are not that diverse. If they were the 80/20 rule wouldn't be a thing. Let me correct this a little bit. They are diverse, but not when it comes to sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 11:46 PM
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We tried this, it was called womens sexual liberation. Turns out with the "shackles" off, they wanted to bang Chad. Stopping slut shaming does not help the average man. It helps women and chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 07:24 PM
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No men have accepted that for awhile because we're hit over the head with this idea that men are horny, shallow, dogs, that are toxic by the msm. Turns out women are all that and then some. I'm ok with everyone being shallow, I'm not ok with people lying about women not being just as shallow as men (with all evidence pointing to them being even more shallow).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 05:04 PM
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No he doesn't. He will not have trouble finding another person. He's still highly desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 05:01 PM
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Men who do better in a big city is just a numbers game. More chances more scores. Obviously if you're sufficiently good looking u can pull pretty much anywhere. I think the demographics, rather than number of ppl is a bigger deal. Not gonna go into details because apparently talking about race related dating issues isn't allowed or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:59 PM
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All I'm saying is that blue pill has at least a semblance of accuracy for attractive people, like Channing Tatum. Channing now understands divorce, but he doesn't understand what it's like to be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:53 PM
1

And that is where you're wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:49 PM
2

Oh I have no idea who that is then. Til
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:55 PM
3

What's your point. Nobody cares what you in particular think about pete. If he was shorter women in general would like him even less. As usual, you're not really making a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:49 PM
2

Never said that, read again please. An actually short man has a cap on his attractiveness. He can still be attractive, but he's not getting beyond an 8. And no , 5 8 is not short. In addition he has to really make up for lack of height to make that bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:41 PM
3

I never moved any goal posts? I never said women only want 6ft men? Stop strawmanning please. Still waiting for the data showing women in aggregate don't like tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:37 PM
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Ah yes rich and famous people, great counterargument! Not Also Tom Holland is not that short.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:29 PM
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They comparable in that they are both largely uncontrollable properties, but not comparable in how they affect overall attractiveness. A girl with small boobs can be an 8, 9, or even 10 depending on the guy you ask. A short dude cannot be an 8. Period. There is no fetish for short men. Womens preferences are simply not as differentiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:27 PM
7

Yay a study with self reported sex stats! These have known to be so reliable. Got anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:20 PM
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Idk about red pilled or whatever. But at one point I believed that personality was just as or slightly less important than looks. But as I grew older I realized that was just naivete and social programming fed to us by the media. That kind of love isn't really real and never was. Nothing really happened, I just observed people in everyday life. Hot guys picked up chicks and got into relationships, ugly guys didn't. There were no other confounding variables. Online dating came along and exacerbat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 01:16 PM
22

"attractiveness is not a formula", and other things girls tell themselves to not seem shallow. Data shows otherwise. Honestly at what point are posts like these going to be banned? They are so low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 12:39 PM
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Uh honey u don’t understand, women love guys who look like Danny devito. That's why you see short guys with supermodels everywhere. Women don't even care that much about height. Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 12:32 PM
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They aren't bad people but it is prone to producing bad results. I don't slut shame, cuz people should do whatever they want, but it's hard for me to say with a straight face that sleeping with hundreds of people will do you a lot of psychological good. It's also hard to say because there are so few examples of what i would call a well adjusted slut. Most I've known have serious issues. So you have this phenomena of sluttiness feeding into mental issues and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:37 PM
1

rampant scientism Lol when science contradicts my beliefs, it's the science that's wrong. You sounds like a climate change denier.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:29 PM
1

They are both fallacious ideologies to an extent. But TRP at least has some directions that undeniably will improve your chances. Those mainly being take care of your body. FDS doesn't really seem to offer any of that. On a cursory glance id say one is somewhat more valid as a way to a better dating life. Then again I haven't been on either subs so I'm going by what I've come across tangentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:27 PM
1

They lie, sometimes unintentionally. A women will say they are or are not many things. But around Chad none of that applies. She's whatever will keep him around. Generally most women do not really give you the honest truth about themselves to avoid internal dissonance. Sometimes they let it slip though. One time a woman told me she thought her fiance was not attractive, and admitted she settled, "but he makes good money". Keep in mind this chick was a straight 3 on a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:23 PM
2

No they don't do it because they've tried it and it doesn't work if you're ugly or below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 03:09 PM
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Congrats, you are attractive. But either way good on you it's still takes guts even if you are. Just understand this will never work for a majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 10:53 PM
6

there is no formula There is, you just don't like it because people like you have trouble accepting it. You also assume, because this formula makes you uncomfortable, that someone who knows it must be broken and unhappy or is lying. And I get it, some people let the truth get them down and become despondent. But that's not the only outcome. You can understand the dark realities of modern dating and still be happy. Knowing the realities of the world is a double edged sword in life, you can use it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 09:14 PM
1

Like having a high n count, this likely indicates a girl is not LTR material, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 01:42 AM
6

Or just rising female standards in the era of instant gratification, social media, and dating apps? Occam's razor man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 07:55 PM
6

You've got cause and effect mixed around. Women find men attractive confident, not confident men attractive. This is called the Halo effect, you can read numerous studies published in journals about this. Women will assign positive traits to attractive men even though he does not possess them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:58 AM
1

Like most vices, because of poor foresight and self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 11:54 AM
1

No, I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:37 PM
2

Ah another Lilith post. Looks are the single most important thing in modern dating. You saying it isn't doesn't make it not true. Prove me wrong with a single experiment showing this not to be the case. In addition women are more shallow when it comes to looks as well. Also shown in experiments. Why try to gaslight ppl into thinking otherwise lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 07:36 PM
2

It's almost as if u didn't read the last half of my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:51 AM
-1

This has been debunked
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 04:51 AM
20

Women don't date ugly guys unless they are even uglier. By a large margin. There are no stacies dating unattractive dudes unless he is extremely rich/famous. I wouldn't call that giving them a chance though. A chance at his money maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:32 PM
1

They are more prone to groupthink in all areas of life, not just relationships. On average they are less individualistic and more agreeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:59 AM
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Intelligent women, are a hot/rare commodity in the dating market, and just because they are intelligent doesn't mean they don't want Chad too. Just a smart one. Going after intelligent women doesn't really solve anything if you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 02:08 PM
2

Yeah I knew a few girls who told me they got nervous or had trouble taking to really attractive guys. Tbh I was so surprised because this wasn't even in a romantic context. Literally just talking to them, about anything, was intimidating to them. Wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 08:36 PM
8

None, cuz it doesn't work. Notice we never hear advice from ugly people talking about success stories like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 04:40 PM
15

Lol life isn't a comedy sitcom, this does not work unless you are in the general ballpark of Chad attractiveness (7-10), but even then it's a bit tenuous. If it did work, you had a decent shot with the girl anyway. I've experienced this first hand a lot. Never seen it work unless both dudes were already good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 04:08 PM
2

What do you mean by charade in this context?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 04:03 PM
13

Besides the painfully obvious advice of staying in shape, this advice is rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 04:02 PM
2

I don't necessarily disagree with you. What I'm saying is instead of learning how to please your woman with intricate steps or extensive foreplay (which I think does help) you are probably just better off hitting the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 03:20 AM
2

Except it's backed by experiment results. Do you have any contradicting data?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 09:00 PM
5

No, because women don't even meet their own standards. If they were what they demanded, then yes, but that's rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 08:44 PM
4

If it's applicable most of the time, then these generalizations are useful, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 05:27 PM
8

Ah I just realized you're the OP why did I even bother. Just another troll post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 05:22 PM
15

over half of relationships are now started digitally Small portion of women Already your post is invalidated. To further dissolve your arguments, every other dating app has the same dynamics as tinder, even ones that are supposedly more personality based and less casual, like OKC. The dynamic being it sucks for the large majority of guys due to absurd female standards. The rest is the classic, same old nonsense. "Just date ugly chicks" "Just be a sugar daddy bro" "Just shower bro" Lol it's like …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 02:48 PM
0

Most men don't have the opportunity to date someone of much higher attractiveness than they are whereas this is relatively common for women. So yes men can be Stacy widows, but it's pretty rare comparatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 03:24 AM
2

Charles Manson wasn't famous and or rich? Lol what. Wasn't he also a psycho? This is a terrible example. Why don't u find me a single study or experiment that shows personality matters as much as looks. I'll wait. No anecdotes. Data.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 08:00 PM
3

There are plenty of interesting ugly people, that aren't rich and famous that get nothing. There are a miniscule amount of good looking people who aren't rich that don't get any (whether they are interesting or not). That is the point that nobody can refute, because it is a statistical fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:52 PM
2

It isn't, but that's beyond the point. But I guess you felt the need to say this since you don't have a counter argument, as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:45 PM
3

Cool even if what you say is true (I doubt it) it isn't the case most of the time. So your advice really doesn't apply in general. There is no study on the planet that has shown personality is more important than looks, money, or status. You're peddling blue pill nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:41 PM
3

It's well known that women do not give good dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:39 PM
9

U must be trolling. You're arguments are so low effort and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:38 PM
1

You are either overweight or have extreme issues communicating in a social environment. or you aren't really trying. maybe a mixture of all 3. You should have no issues getting a woman if you fix those things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:37 PM
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Just be rich and famous bro. Lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:33 PM
7

Lol playing make-believe are we? This does not happen in real life unless the man is incredibly famous or rich. Statistical outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:31 PM
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Not really. I know precisely zero girls with high n counts that I would consider quality people. I know plenty of guys with high n counts that are fine people. I do think the arguments apply but the degree is so much less for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 12:43 AM
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Ah so now u are assuming the women I was with were lying. How gracious of you. Pretty sure most women dont orgasm during sex. But most still enjoy it a lot. Its ok that u feel differently but you're gonna be pretty incompatible with a lot of people I feel. U seem a bit defensive about this so I'll leave it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:06 PM
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That part is fine, but the part about not orgasming is a bit off putting to me. Most (all?) women I've been with enjoy it whether they do or don't orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:42 PM
-3

No offense but you sound like a terrible sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:30 PM
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Looks threshold comes first. The more attractive you are the less the actual personality matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:29 PM
1

And that 50% is wrong. Again not understanding me here. These two stats: 80% of sex had among 20% of people (80/20) Women finding 20% of guys attractive Are separate things. But together they disprove the point you are trying to make. If the 20% were different, it wouldn't be distributed so heavily into small group of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 11:48 PM
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I agree but that harem period is getting longer and longer. Which means more and more younger men being left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:49 PM
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People here are really bad at basic math. If the preferences of women varied so drastically then the 80/20 stats wouldn't exist. The fact that it is real automatically implies there is a set of physical characteristics that is generally attractive to women since women rate ~1/5 guys attractive. Thanks to other studies from OKC and in the academic arena we know those to be height, light skin, sharp facial features, athletic/lean build. Much more women are concerned with safety when dating Not sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:47 PM
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Recent dating data is proving otherwise. I don't think you fully understand what's happening at a low level. When one of chads f buddies is with him, she does feel she's the one for him. That she's gonna win him long term over the others. She knows it's just a fling and he's way out of her league but thinks she can reign him in and consciously or subconsciously pushes all the other scenarios to the back of her mind. You're right, this behavior has long term consequences. But is the current or ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:00 PM
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Not sure if we are reading the same sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:53 PM
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Yup Note: when women say they find X personality traits attractive, what they really mean is they find X attractive on a physically attractive man. In fact the man may not even actually possess that trait, she may rationalize that in due to his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:52 PM
0

This is so wrong its almost funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 06:58 PM
0

No, it isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:42 AM
6

In certain exceptions yes, far from the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:20 PM
6

Neither of these people get laid with pretty women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 08:10 PM
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It is most certainly not true. All dating statistics confirm this. For sleeping around, it's rare a guy can grab a girl more attractive than him. Usually the person saying they see ugly guys sleeping with hot women all the time are women. We also know women rate 80% of men unattractive. So in short it makes sense why this gets said alot. If 80% of guys are unattractive, then women will say they see a bunch of ugly guys dating pretty women. In reality it's that womens bar for an attractive man is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 06:05 PM
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If u are the average or below male, it sucks. If u are the average female it's amazing, access to plethora of chads If u are an attractive male, it's amazing, accesses to easy bangs with average women If u are an attractive female, it's amazing, but your life was probably already amazing dating wise so not really a big deal. Attractive women get enough play in real life and didn't really need dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 05:38 PM
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I have seen unattractive men getting laid With attractive women? No, u haven't. Unattractive men sleep with even more unattractive women. Unless they have...u guessed it, status/wealth. Any cases of this are guaranteed statistical anomalies in any modern country. All they are taught is that women like money and they have to beg for their love Again wrong. We are taught to be kind, be a gentleman, and court women we really like (I suppose u interpret this as begging). Recently though, large swath…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 05:34 PM
6

Yup exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:33 PM
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Don't even know where to start with this post. But in short no, there is little evidence to support your thesis. Make sexlessness has risen due to the rising standards of women. Women don't want less sex, they just want sex with an increasingly small fraction of men. Notice how female virginity is not on the rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 04:28 PM
11

Nah, I'm just bored sometimes. I do ok socially. It's also fun seeing how badly people understand how people work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 05:35 PM
1

Putting in work isn't always the answer. How do you put in work to become taller? Or become white (if you aren't). These are two things at the very top of the attractive marker list (see literally any study). Working yourself to death in the gym isn't gonna change either of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:59 PM
1

Yikes you are totally missing his point. You seem bent on hearing stuff that confirms your naive world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:51 PM
1

Nah most people here have it right, I think you're the one lost in delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:45 PM
1

Is this satire? Like do you actually believe this. lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:44 PM
1

Here we go again. Most things that put you in the top 20% are things you can't change, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 03:41 PM
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Why shouldnt we blame women? I don't blame women for me choosing to date psychotic chicks that end up in disaster. I knew the bish was cray, and I take responsibility for it. Women should know the status of their relationships. It isn't that hard. And no they aren't being tricked (99% of ppl are horrible liars). So it's either: 1 they are too dumb figure out if their relationship is casual or tenuous 2 they are aware but don't care I imagine it's far more of the second. Personal responsibility, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:44 PM
1

People who fall for the "toxic masculinity" bit are doing themselves a disservice. It's not a real issue. Toxic masculinity is when a man women don't like does something they don't like or is perceived out of line. Or when low tier women complain about Chad's behavior (they are really complaining about Chad not giving them the light of day). They then proceed to ridicule all men with criticism. What does exist are jerks and scumbags, but that's hardly a gender specific issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 11:34 PM
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Wealthy people are marrying other wealthy people Kinda, at my tax bracket and age there are a vanishingly small amount of women. A lot of educated men would love if their mates made the same or more money. There's just not many of them, and those that do exist marry even richer men. The reality is men usually marry down significantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:50 AM
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Do you not think gaining 200 lbs would decrease sexual attraction? Also who cares were talking about what Patrice said not a fictional Patricia.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:11 PM
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Adam driver isn't conventionally attractive only face wise. But he's not ugly. When you take into account that he's 6 2, and white, he would do well on any dating app. He would do well at bars. What brings him over the top for girls is because he's an actor. For "nerdy" girls, even more cuz Star Wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:04 PM
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“Who cares” ah so u are purposely being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 03:25 AM
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What is your point? That's still a whopping 30%. Within the 70% how is the sex distributed? Do you purposely misinterpret data on purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 01:02 AM
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Based on how men rate attractiveness, id say women care far more about sex appeal than men. The rest of the post was also off base, but others have already pointed out why.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:47 PM
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This makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:45 PM
1

Yeah I think that's it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:31 PM
2

Probably matters more for ltrs than casual flings. Out of the trifecta of money, status, and looks, it probably matters the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:28 PM
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"there's no way to really know" uhh yeah there is. Just ask. Or ask her friends. It doesnt even matter though, I've never met a high n count girl who I was considering for a LTR before I knew what her n count was. It's highly corelated with non ltr characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:13 PM
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I know plenty of guys that have done everything you have suggested with no luck. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:59 PM
1

Men sleeping around and women sleeping around are not the same, because men and women are not the same. This post is built on an false premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:56 PM
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1 there's an argument to be made that it is a pretty decent proxy for nightlife but whatever 2 ok it isn't, what's your point. A lot of guys try in real life with similar results. Is it so hard to grasp that people do most everything reasonable in trying to attract women and fail anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:52 PM
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Lol classic just world fallacy. "If you can't get a girl it's YOU that's doing something wrong." Nah dude. Some people are just ugly. They will get nothing and best case scraps. And a lot of the time, it won't be for lack of trying. These people always existed, but never in numbers as great as they are now due to changing social dynamics. But of course you can never be convinced because it shatters your entire worldview and removes your moral superiority. You care more about preserving that anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:47 PM
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Hmm I've never seen that IME but that's a shame if it happens. Ugly guys are invisible everywhere not just on the streets. Most obvious in social settings. Since you're not an ugly guy or even average guy it's probably hard to wrap your mind around the experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:39 PM
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No, a most try and fail alot. I don't blame them, return on investment is shitty for the average guy in terms of asking people out. So they eventually reprioritize and spend time on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:48 PM
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It depends, average looking 5-7, I think the feeling might be comparable, any below that they might actually be offended for the guy trying. To a lot of women these guys are supposed to be invisible. In fact there was a study that if asked out by an unattractive dude a woman will behave harsher towards other unattractive dudes or something like that. I've never ever seen men behave this way towards gay dudes. Usually they have an awk conversation and try to make it clear they are not gay asap lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:42 PM
1

End thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:36 PM
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Men do care, but not for flings. And at least for me, it's very easy to find out the real number, or an approximate range.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:34 PM
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Or just multiply whatever number given by 3 and make judgements from there. Most times she'll eventually tell you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:31 PM
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Huh? Mathematically you would just shift the phase of the correlation, it doesn't change the correlation. So no those studies are still valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 08:09 AM
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See edit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 04:32 AM
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I usually just multiply by 3 for a woman and divide by 2 for a man, in my experience that's been the most accurate. Scientifically it's hard to measure this. I think there was a study where when hooked up to a lie detectors, the n count reported by women was sig higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 04:30 AM
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Lol at believing self reported stats about n count. Women undercount and men overcount. AWALT is dumb, but to ignore general trends is also as dumb. Also your post did nothing to explain how dishonest men are. They are pretty straightforward about wanting hot chicks this isn't a secret. They won't pretend that it doesn't matter or it doesn't matter lot. That is the difference. I'm not even sure what you're implying men need to be taking responsibility for?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 02:11 AM
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Fully agree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 07:12 PM
4

It's always a catch 22 with this particular topic to avoid making women seem shallow. If a nice guy doesn't get any, it's because he wasn't really nice anyway. If he does it's because he actually was. And then the next level of catch, "well niceness is just a minimum", there's more needed etc etc In reality, it's (mainly) because he's just ugly. If you're attractive being nice barely matters to the average woman. If you're ugly being nice probably won't help. This has been established in multipl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 10:43 AM
1

Men don't make excuses and lie about it. Women often do. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 11:01 PM
12

I know the difference, touching my arms and chest repeatedly is more than being friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 10:58 PM
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Yeah I don't think feeling up my biceps counts as "just friendliness". It actually made my girl a bit uncomfortable at the time and we had to talk about it afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 10:54 PM
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I'm not sure why u keep bringing up the 60s. My point is that women capable of being the breadwinner are still showing a bias for their partners earning more, today. And unsurprisingly u are unable to see the 29% in a different light. If the man is not working that could be from a lot of things. He might not need to work, because he doesn't need to (retired, annuity payout, family money, etc). Or he is still in extended education (grad school, med school, etc) You are assuming this is because he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 10:51 PM
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U know somehow I legit missed that. Das my b. I do understand your broader point as well. I don't think we are in disagreement on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 04:16 PM
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Yeah preselection among women is a thing. I didn't believe this untill I showed up to a party with a girl on my arm and a girl who basically ignored me for months was all up on me. I almost couldn't believe wtf was going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 04:09 PM
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My definition is literally from the dictionary. You are the one who needs to adjust your understanding not me. The US is NOT a patriarchy by the standard definition. If you want to make up meanings to words go ahead, but u are no longer debating in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 04:03 PM
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38% not 40%. And this number includes marriages where the man isn't making anything at all. In marriages where both earn some amount of money it drops to 29%. You aren't helping your case here at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 03:52 PM
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Not going to define bad boy, but my point was u were pointing out a contradiction that doesn't exist. Women have jobs now, they still date up financially. Call it gold digging (which I don't agree with) or whatever, it is the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 02:25 PM
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?? It doesn't prove anything. This could lead to disaster we have no idea
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 02:18 PM
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Eh I guess when I speak in absolutes I think of the average man. So yeah there are some ppl on here who may blame women in a sense for being picky. I haven't seen it much. And it isn't any different no. Being picky about the"wrong" things is what creates single mothers. Of course ppl can do whatever they want, but you can see how annoying it may come off to guys when women complain about men they chose to have relationships with. The average guy does not GAF about revenge fantasies. You spend to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 02:15 PM
1

Monogamy isn't natural, so no you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 02:08 PM
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Nobody blames women for being picky. They resent women for complaining about the consequences of doing so. (eg afbb, waatgm, single mothers, blah blah) Your argument is also kinda weird. Going against our biological urges in many instances help build civilization as we know it today. Reverting back to primordial state in the context of relationships could be a step backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 12:21 PM
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Not really, it's a good proxy metric for other things. I've never met a girl with a high N count that was relationship material. High n count is correlated with bad relationship qualities. by the time I get to knowing a girls actual number, I already know the ballpark. And I've never been wrong. Judging by n count directly is kinda weird and impractical, but would generally work if you did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 12:09 PM
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Bad boys != Low earner, so not a contradiction. Women date up and across financially, men date down and across. I don't think any gender deserves the label gold digger, but if one did it would be females based on the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 06:10 AM
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I think if a really attractive dude that was out of your league asked you out you would say yes. This is rare, because there's by definition not many of them. So in that sense I agree. Due to the high barrier of attractiveness to inciting lust in the average woman, women do not care about sex as much. But when a man that women wants is involved they definitely do care, quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 10:46 PM
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They can care more than the average man depending on a few factors, the primary one being how attractive the man is. There is pretty conclusive evidence around this. You also phrased this weirdly, just because sex comes easier for women doesn't mean they care about it less. Guys don't resent women for getting sex easy. There are guys who resent women for complaining about not being able to find a guy when it's extremely easy to do so as a woman (comparatively)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 10:29 PM
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That's not the definition of patriarchy. A patriarchy has specific systems meant to subdue and prevent women from amassing wealth or power. That is not the case in the Western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 09:50 PM
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