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| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesEntymology as you spelt it isn’t a word. Then say that. I'm aware already and it was a typo. I was making a weak joke about entomology Already made by the other person. And I don’t use online sites to learn Ancient Greek. I got that. But you need to cite a source if you're going to just tell everyone else to shut up because they're wrong. What would you use? Or I say "I studied super Ancient Greeky Greek and you're wrong". I don’t know how you’re supposed to fact check it if you simply don’t kno… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesEntomology is the study of insects. I didn't say entomology. ‘Histor’ is not the origin of the word but a derivation of it. Give me a site you will accept as a fact checker. Wikitionary? | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesYour last comment was over 2 years ago? Why did you add to this conservation specifically? | /r/MensRights | 13/05/22 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesYou believe I'm the troll after reading everything said between us? What on Earth makes you come to that conclusions? This person has literally lied and changed facts to suit their own narrative and pointing that out has annoyed them more. You are a troll because you only care about them responding to you because in the eyes of a troll the more someone responds, the angrier they are and the more fun they have. That's not me. You win when you change someone's mind You've annoyed me by saying this… | /r/MensRights | 13/05/22 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesWhy do you say that? | /r/MensRights | 10/05/22 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesSo that's a yes then. | /r/MensRights | 10/05/22 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesYou done responding because you can't admit to your wrongs then when you've got no more bull to give? | /r/MensRights | 10/05/22 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesu/Fearless-File-3625 Yellow? | /r/MensRights | 10/05/22 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesYou can swap his for hers. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesHis can swap for hers. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesYou're just saying me explaining why I don't agree is agreeing with your point. You said no. That's then agreeing with my point. You use the word histor as evidence that history is derived from it, history is gendered Never claimed history was a gendered term... You've not really read any of my points have you? but when I point out what histor is derived from is not gendered, you dismiss that as "not the actual word". Because you said those definitions were the definitions of a different word. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesAnd so the definitions we are using are... say it with me... in Modern English. Which you don't get to...stay with me...apply to the etymology of words older. What do you think modern definitions of older words are? We have a meaning in older times were explaining with modern language. I'm not forcing anything onto that doesn't belong. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesNeither the modern nor original term history is gendered. You already agreed my interpretation of histor* being gendered in Modern English was correct. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesYou're saying back to cavemen is a continous line of words that mean women? No inspiration come from other words to get wif? No? So you agree with my point. All words going far enough back will lose all meaning. Will you say woman doesn't relate to the idea of women or something since far enough back the words it comes from don't have that meaning? By saying no, you agree with the point of this. Sure, as long as you ignore where its root say person, and that "wise man" isn't gendered inherently.… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesBack then? These definitions come from now... do you still not get that? Ancient Greeks didn't even use the word wise. It comes from the PIE root for wit: weid. In Greek this would be oida And so the definitions we are using are... say it with me... in Modern English. We've been over this. We have, and you still don't seem to get that. You agreed it was a gendered term in Modern English and those definitions are Modern English. As in *you* are imputing onto a word that isn't modern English a mod… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesI already said. All words come from something. The terms history comes from doesn't always relate to the modern definition of history... are you going to say history doesn't relate to history now? | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesNo, since the word woman derives from man itself *since "man" means person* plus the modifier that it's female. You're saying back to cavemen is a continous line of words that mean women? No inspiration come from other words to get wif? Nope. Evidence rules out possibilities. It doesn't just accommodate your thinking. What evidence? All the evidence you've shown has used the Modern English definition of "wise man" and you agreed my interpretation of that phrase in Modern English was correct. No,… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesYes, it just magically becomes "wise man" from "wise person" for no reason at all, despite the fact that they are the same thing back then, Back then? These definitions come from now... do you still not get that? Ancient Greeks didn't even use the word wise, that's Modern English. I'm not really sure if you're drunk or something but this refusal to learn and to make such bonkers points is weird. and "wise man" isn't gendered. You already agreed it was a gendered term in Modern English and that d… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesSecond go to your edit [histor](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%B5%CF%83%CF%84%CF%89%CF%81#Ancient_Greek%5D(https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%B5%CF%83%CF%84%CF%89%CF%81#Ancient_Greek) Spoiler: it means "Wise person" or "judge" from " "wéydtōr" You literally ignored the actual given definitions to the word here to quote another completely different section refering to a different word instead... Why did you do that? | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesLook at the root of the words. You skipped that part. All words going far enough back will lose all meaning. Will you say woman doesn't relate to the idea of women or something since far enough back the words it comes from don't have that meaning? You're not looking at all the information. You stop looking once you find a satisfying conclusion. You already accepted that my conclusion was satisfactory but just disagreed with the evidence I used to support it till you realised the evidence existed… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesTo your edit. [histor](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%B5%CF%83%CF%84%CF%89%CF%81#Ancient\_Greek](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%B5%CF%83%CF%84%CF%89%CF%81#Ancient_Greek) Spoiler: it means "Wise person" or "judge" from " "wéydtōr" It also says "a wise man" You see how they purposefully changed person to man because they're clearly not using the genderless meaning? You really need to real the full website. And work on your hyperlinks. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesHave you understood that your own evidence disagrees with you very clearly? No it doesn't. You just choose to see the parts that agree with you. I chose to see all the information, just like I did before. But when you give only a select few definitions from your website and then I correct you to show you all of them, one being the one I stated that you seemed to think was ridiculous... I'm the one choosing to see parts that agree with me? Get a mirror. None of which are "histor" Your website dis… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesDo you actually think that "wise man" is inherently masculine when the etymological history and *actual greek words for man* don't comport with that? Before that, have you understood that the definitions given were in Modern English and not Ancient Greek? Have you understood that your own evidence disagrees with you very clearly? Then when you accept the answers to that Well you're applying the modern English use of man here. You agree yourself that modern English defines "wise man" as I have. Y… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesWhat relevance does that have though? Well you're applying the modern English use of man here. Because I gave you the modern English definition. Do you think Ancient Greeks defined the word hístōr as "one who knows law and right, judge / witness / learned, wise man"... those don't seem like words they'd use to me. histōr just means "expert" or "learned", not "wise man", A lack of complete information doesn't delete the information not mentioned nor is it evidence that it doesn't exist. ...but I … | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesNo, "Mann" is the protogermanic word for "person" What relevance does that have though? The Greek word for wise man and wise woman are nothing close to "histor"(sofos anthropos and sofi gynaika). Where did you get those from for Ancient Greek which was what I was obviously refering to since we didn't get the word history from modern Greek I'd think. You have been using "entymology" this entire time so it isnt accidental, just an odd mistake. Autocorrect remembers. Entomology was not written out … | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesThe word "man" comes from the protogermanic word for "person". It is etymologically gender neutral. It's entymology? This is it's modern equivalent definition... what does the entymology of a word in a different language matter for Ancient Greek definitions? Also "entymological" isn't a word. Etymology is the study of insects though. Etymological is. I just added an n by accident. Entomology is spelt differently. I didn't accidently refer to the study of insects. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 06:09 PM |
| 0 | Feminism tackling the important issuesThey can replace his with hers. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesThen do it. Sure. a system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is reckoned through the male line. a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. a society or community organized on patriarchal lines. Why was that necessary to copy paste it? You're the one with the weird idea of what patriarchy is given you think it's genderless. If you think gay men put expectation on majority of men … | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesHow does entymology work? Go on? | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesYes. Finally. That line of reasoning you responded with was asinine. hístōr referring to men doesn't mean history has male origins, It means it has an origin in the idea of men. especially since both of these words are separated by more than 1000 years. That's how entymology works. Meaning carried over long periods of time through language. And no intermediate words had anything to do with man. You have one intermediate word I've cited. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesWhy are you afraid? I asked first. No I did. "Do you know what patriarchy means ?" ... Supposed to have a gender neutral meaning? No it isn't. It's a gendered term as you say. What does it even mean to say it has a gender neutral meaning if it's a gendered term? Who told you that? Forget my first question since I'm not even sure what you think patriarchy means now. I've asked about what you think patriarchy means for a while. Maybe not directly but either way you still never answered this direct… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 11:12 AM |
| 0 | Feminism tackling the important issuesOk since you are so afraid to give the meaning, do you think it was used correctly in that link ? Why are you afraid? I asked first. SOCIETY Be specific. There is a certain group of people that put this specific expectation on men. Not really. Everyone does it. Society. Are you implying men have no role in perpetuating toxic masculinity? What would you prefer the toxic aspects of masculinity that society perpetuates be referred to Why are you afraid? We both now clearly see you think not answeri… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 10:45 AM |
| 0 | Feminism tackling the important issuesI'm talking about actuals historical facts. Yes you are using historical facts to insinuate the fact that "history" has male origins. Exactly. Nothing to do with the English his. Do you get that now? Do you realise that saying a word has male origins, because somewhere in its etymological tree there is word that refers to men is just as ridiculous ? No. Because it was a word that literally referred to men. Not just masculine or feminine spelling which clearly is a different discussion if you kno… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesDo you know what patriarchy means ? What do you think it means? You've already said it's a gendered term so how are people saying it's gender neutral? You don't think men were harming themselves with that surgery to fit into toxic expectations of masculinity put on them by society? Who is putting the expectations ? ... SOCIETY I already said. Give the meaning. a cultural concept of manliness that glorifies stoicism, strength, virility, and dominance, and that is socially maladaptive or harmful t… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 10:35 AM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesClick on the link, it is right there. No it isn't. It's using the gendered term because it is a gendered term. No where is there a claim that I can see that it is a gender neutral word. All of this is wrong but how is this any relevant ? You don't think men were harming themselves with that surgery to fit into toxic expectations of masculinity put on them by society? No, I am not going to list hundreds of different meanings that deranged feminists conjure up depending on the situation. You have … | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 10:24 AM |
| 0 | Feminism tackling the important issuesLmao the whole point of the girl in the post is that "history" related to men because of "his" in it. I'm not talking about her post though... I'm talking about actuals historical facts. Can you still not read and understand the comment? If hístōr meaning "wise man" implies that "history" has "male origins" then historíā being a feminine noun implies that "history" has "female origins". What? Being a feminine word doesn't make it a word with origins relating to women. A table is feminine in fren… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 10:18 AM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issueslink I can get you more examples but this one should answer both of your questions. What? Who told you that? Forget my first question since I'm not even sure what you think patriarchy means now. How does this answer the question of you being told patriarchy has a gender neutral meaning? Also, I know you don't like the term, but you know what it means... so how isn't this toxic masculinity at work? Men are harming themselves to conform to the toxic aspects of masculinity perpetuated by society. T… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 10:03 AM |
| 1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesWhat does the entymology of the English his have to do with disproving my comment? "The idea of men was involved in its entymological* origins it seems." Yes. Greek - hístōr - one who knows law and right, judge / witness / learned, wise man Not relevant to the entymology of the English his. Just it's Ancient Greek origins and their meanings. You do understand other languages have entymology other than English right? I've not brought up or relied on the English his once. I am not blinded by rage,… | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:48 AM |
| 0 | Feminism tackling the important issuesAs a derogatory term against men. Examples? Because it is a gendered term that "supposed" have a gender neutral meaning, at least that's what the gas lighters say. Supposed to have a gender neutral meaning? No it isn't. It's a gendered term as you say. What does it even mean to say it has a gender neutral meaning if it's a gendered term? Who told you that? Forget my first question since I'm not even sure what you think patriarchy means now. What would you prefer the toxic aspects of masculinity … | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:38 AM |
| 0 | Feminism tackling the important issuesDid you get too blinded by rage or annoyance to read my comment or are you just so forgetful you forgot the start when you got to the end? It's only a few lines. Greek - hístōr - one who knows law and right, judge / witness / learned, wise man What does the entymology of the English his have to do with disproving my comment? I'm refering to the Ancient Greek origins. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:32 AM |
| -3 | Feminism tackling the important issuesI showed it was. Got counter evidence to disprove my findings on Ancient Greek? Or is "no" all you need in this sub? Fine then. No to your no. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:21 AM |
| -2 | Feminism tackling the important issuesNo to what? | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:13 AM |
| 0 | Feminism tackling the important issuesHow do you see it used? Why use it as a counter example when it's a different context for complaints? Then offer an alternative so that the gap you want to create can be filled. You're creating a problem when trying to solve something you see as a problem. Fix that and people complaining about your desire have less to complain about. What would you prefer the toxic aspects of masculinity that society perpetuates be referred to? | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 09:06 AM |
| 0 | Feminism tackling the important issuesHis. Do you think they're complaining about the word Hi? | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 08:55 AM |
| 0 | Feminism tackling the important issuesDo you think that's true or is that a joke? | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 08:54 AM |
| -1 | Feminism tackling the important issuesHis to hers. Those are the equivalent words. "That book is his" to "that book is her" isn't going to make sense. If you're going to critique someone, atleast don't be more of an idiot when you do so. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 08:53 AM |
| 3 | Feminism tackling the important issuesGreek - hístōr - one who knows law and right, judge / witness / learned, wise man To Greek - historíā - finding out, narrative, history Then via Latin to what history means now in late Middle English. The idea of men was involved in its etymological* origins it seems. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 08:50 AM |
| -5 | Feminism tackling the important issuesGreek - hístōr - one who knows law and right, judge / witness / learned, wise man To Greek - historíā - finding out, narrative, history Then via Latin to what history means now in late Middle English. The idea of men was involved in its entymological* origins it seems. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 08:47 AM |
| -5 | Feminism tackling the important issuesWhat's wrong with the word patriarchy? What would you prefer the toxic aspects of masculinity that society perpetuates be referred to? | /r/MensRights | 09/05/22 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Pussypass kinda denied? 0.oNo, your referring to another phrase I'm not talking about that. I'm sayin what I'm saying. If you understand something well enough you would be able to explain it to an idiot. You wrote all of this out instead of just explaining what you wrote, just continuing to dodge about. I'm also getting bored now with your comments. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/06/20 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Pussypass kinda denied? 0.oAs people say, you don't really understand something unless you can explain it to an idiot. All you have to do it write it down and then you can move on if you like. You won't though since the interpretation I read is the one you'd be explaining so you'd be proving my point. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/06/20 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Pussypass kinda denied? 0.oCool, so you can't explain it can you. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/06/20 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Pussypass kinda denied? 0.oevolution has changed every single organ in our body between men and women (size hormones etc) you would absolutely have to be a stark raving denialist to claim that when it comes to the brain (the most expensive organ in the entire body by orders of magnitude) that it would have "No effect" What the fuck are you trying to claim here then? Because the only interpretation that makes sense is you saying that evolution has made male and female brains to fit with someone's sex meaning evolution has … | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/06/20 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Pussypass kinda denied? 0.oOkay I admit I was wrong on the definition of evolution then if that helps move this discussion along since you continue to dodge the actual question I'm asking. Why do you believe natural selection hasn't ended every other mental illness but you do believe it would have put an end to the existence of trans people? | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/06/20 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Pussypass kinda denied? 0.oYou're trying to talk about the concept of "survival of the fittest" showing your ignorance, and that again isn't even a perfect mechanism like you pretend it is. I think you're getting to angry and not reading this an intended. You just want to dismiss everything I write. I wrote "you're trying to talk about the concept of "survival of the fittest"" because that is what you are talking about. Not just evolution. I'm literally saying that "SotF" is the term to use when talking about genes changi… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/06/20 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Pussypass kinda denied? 0.oWhy did you completely ignore the argument I made that other mental illnesses exist, so why not trans people? Other mental illnesses weren't kicked out because of natural selection even with the level of importance the brain has, so why would trans have been kicked out? I believe I'm aware of the intended meaning of expensive just covering all bases. I obviously got it since you didn't correct my 1st reading of the phrase You quote something YOU SAID, and then claim that as proof of my ignorance… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/06/20 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Pussypass kinda denied? 0.oExplain how evolution has any relevence. Edit: Evolution is random and has not decided to make perfect "men" and "women". I assume you're trying to say that the brain is expensive to make so evolution would have removed any issues with it. But this would not be evolution, this would be natural selection you are talking about and that isn't perfect like you're pretending it is. How else would people with autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), bipolar disorder, major depression a… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/06/20 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Pussypass kinda denied? 0.oExplain how the brain being expensive has any relevence. Explain how evolution has any relevence. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/06/20 04:55 PM |
| -1 | Pussypass kinda denied? 0.oThe fact you call the brain "the most expensive organ in the entire body by orders of magnitudes," shows how much we are dealing with Dunning–Kruger effect right now. What are you even trying to get across? Also what are you also even thinking about with your claims of evolution? Evolution isn't some perfect thing that has purposefully made "men" and "women" and everyone fits perfectly into that. It's just a random process that can lead to anything. Evolution in no way could be used to disprove … | /r/PussyPassDenied | 07/06/20 04:49 PM |
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