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sir, did you short circuit? we were discussing experience vs lack of experience why is this now an anatomy lesson?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:02 AM
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if i had any clue what i liked and how to convey that when i was with him, i could have showed him, and the sex would have been much more satisfying and i probably never would have broken it off to see what else was out there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:53 AM
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that's interesting. i wasn't coming, like ever, with my first partner/boyfriend. i didn't have to have any prior experience to eventually get really bored of that and i started wondering what else was out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:12 AM
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but he picked a virgin her cousin is a man who married a virgin woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 11:03 PM
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it sure seems like men often assume/project that a woman who waits to have sex until she's married, or has a very low body count, has more overall personal integrity as a human being in all walks of life. am i right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:22 PM
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quick question are men with high body counts also trash to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:12 PM
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but, but pair-bonding, and other stuff! 😭🫠
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:03 PM
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wow, that's quite a leap to take in terms of her character.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:51 PM
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it's only as important as the individual woman makes it. there is no rule. when i was a teenager i decided i would wait until i fell in love for the first time. mainly because i saw a couple of my amazing, adorable girlfriends get treated like shit by guys who didn't even deserve them, and i thought being with a man who loved me would be a way to avoid that. and i was right. fell madly in love with my first BF in college. he loved me too. we ended up being together for 3 years. first time was em…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:47 PM
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it might also mean that sex isn't particularly important or interesting to her and you'll end up with a mediocre, or worse, sex life
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:35 PM
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how have i never heard the term "tribbing" before? what is happening lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 05:25 PM
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my focus is on his facial features, they don't have to be perfect at all, just appealing to me. his facial expressions, his voice, what he says and how he says it. how he holds, touches her body, does he look like a good kisser. my most most favorite adult male performer is small hands (aaron thompson) and he is quite well endowed but if he were half the size he is i would still think he was an absolute bombshell. there is one amateur straight couple i've watched before, can't remember their han…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:39 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:31 PM
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"You look at this thin slice of attractive women and think this top 10% of most attractive women are the only women men are attracted to." i'm not looking at these young women and thinking that. i'm taking men's word for it. the "young, thin, and nice to me" thing is repeated over and over. i didn't come up with these preferences myself and project them onto men. I personally think a way wider variety of women are attractive (not sexually just aesthetically) than men seem to. "Men find a large v…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:18 PM
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i didn't assume, i asked you questions placing blame on women for men being douchebags is just...like, come on sex is not the only way people's behavior gets validated there are plenty of asshole men with terrible personalities who never get laid there are so many circumstances of "bad" people both men and women who are rewarded for shitty behavior, where we can say if this party just did this then this wouldn't happen, ad nauseam having a grievance, with women specifically, for not sleeping wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:43 PM
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this is just such a weird thing to worry about and focus on. is it because you want those women to be having sex with you instead? because i don't look at an anti-feminist woman and think, how dare a man reward her idiocy with sex, or marriage, or attention, or anything? i certainly don't want him and he wouldn't want me either. why would you want the attention of women who repeatedly date men you see as bad people? why would you care? let all the assholes find each other and leave the rest of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:22 PM
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that or they don't know how to get on the internet and make a reddit account because they're old
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:02 PM
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it's a shared experience. thinking of it as a "reward" like a dog treat or something is pretty gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:00 PM
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i don't know first hand, sir i was not there
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 10:30 PM
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i've been wondering about this too and i think it's got to be something like, they only "care" about women in terms of sex and dating. that is a woman's entire role in their world. so the logic is, "hey, these dick warmers, oops i mean women, have been blabbering about being equal in all things, not interested in what that entails or anything, but that means i don't have to pay for their dinners anymore, right?" because to them, that's the most pressing issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 09:28 PM
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has anyone here even been alive long enough to know, first hand, what life was like before feminism existed?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 09:13 PM
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you've got to admit it's kind of funny that she thinks men are ugly losers and men do not care because she wears crop tops
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:54 PM
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sex isn't a reward. i don't agree with anti-feminist women, i'd consider them "douchebags". what their sex lives might be like, and who they're sleeping with, doesn't even occur to me. why would i care if someone i don't like is or isn't having sex. why do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:51 PM
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the woman who gushed about how amazing her boyfriend is, and how she wants to stop repeating her old pattern with him because he's a great person who doesn't deserve it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:19 PM
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you think women don't ever annoyed or snippy at men they desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:13 PM
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lol yep, all it takes to be a dream girl for them is being a physical baddie, not even openly having disdain for their entire sex can get in the way of an hourglass body's appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:10 PM
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no, they'll just desire you that doesn't equal worship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:03 PM
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same. yep, backrooms was interesting, and worth seeing, but obsession is a new classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:57 PM
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but would that even be infringing on your right to an education? not getting chosen for the particular educational opportunity you desire is not the same as not having access to an education.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:55 PM
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rita hayworth actually knocked out one of glenn ford's teeth in this scene. god i love this movie! (not because glenn ford got hurt lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:20 PM
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forcing myself into the convo to say that i also loved it loved the tension and the central dramatic question (will bear do ever do the right thing?) the acting from the two leads was just fantastic did you see backrooms?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:06 PM
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that virgin thing is totally made up since not every human has the exact same personality, and response ,to breaking up with their first sexual partner he's also going to need to find a woman who doesn't mind a man being a total hypocrite about body count
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:01 PM
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"in the same way that abortions give women pleasure" ah, got it. this is just ragebait garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:53 PM
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So thank you for proving my point, most men find most women attractive. IF they are young and thin. that's NOT "most" women. Women don't get to claim all the good parts of equality and leave all the bad parts out, that's not equality at all. you can just keep saying that if you want but it's irrelevant to what we're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:46 PM
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as a literal reality show producer (it is my job) you are correct
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:55 AM
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any specific historical eras or context you want to give for this? women were also hunters in various societies. i'm sure you don't really believe the whole of human history is actually as simple as this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 02:47 AM
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lol MILFs, you know not every older woman is a mom right? yes, some women also like "daddies" and dilfs and what have you. it's interesting you're saying this because so many men, even on this sub, will say as long as she is thin, youngish, and "nice to me" that's all i want. i never claimed that there aren't superficial women and superficial men. i said that the 80/20 thing is misused constantly. men and women both being shallow has nothing to do with societal rights and equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 01:40 AM
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i'm sorry but that is a you problem. i've had handsome male bartenders be extra attentive to me. smile. joke. exchange some fun banter. even call me little pet names. that is their job. being really personable is a great skill to have in the service industry. i never thought jeeeez this guy is into me! even when i was in my 20s and extremely cute lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 12:10 AM
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just clarifying further that the okcupid blog post/survey from 2009 is the source of the constantly misquoted, misunderstood, and misused 80/20 "rule". they asked a group of female users to rate the profile pictures alone, no additional information about the men. the women rated 20% of the men on the app as above average in terms of looks and 80% as average or below. however, the women still reached out to a far large percentage and greater variety of men, and didn't exclude that 80% entirely. s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 12:06 AM
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Most men admit they find most women attractive. this is WAY too general though. "most" women? older women? fat women? you mean most of a certain age group and weight range right? that's not the same as "most" at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 12:02 AM
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well this fantasy world you live in sounds like a wonderfully validating place for old men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:39 PM
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she make a flippant, hyperbolic comment to convey the level of hurt and betrayal she felt. she doesn't literally hold all men responsible for her husbands actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:11 PM
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...dig what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 08:55 PM
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oh, great i'll go tell the old guy with the gut who sits outside the coffee shop down the street from me, smoking cigarettes in the morning, that he's only getting hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 07:08 PM
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when women consider 80% of men below average, this is not a figure that applies to real life. it's based on that okcupid study from 2009 where they asked the users to rate each other's profiles. the 80%, 20% thing is not indicative of the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 07:03 PM
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No women prefer the strongest and the most powerful man that’s interested in them. Age is irrelevant to them. age is irrelevant to women when picking a partner? that is profoundly untrue lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:56 PM
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my cousin froze her eggs, and a reputable clinic or practice will absolutely be transparent about the chances of the process working.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:41 PM
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what? no the phrasing is bizarre. what aren't you understanding here, bud?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:13 PM
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i would absolutely understand that the man meant - a woman he dates in the future would have to earn his trust rather than it being freely given. using the word "jail" doesn't change the message because it's not literal. it's a way to convey their guarded emotional state. it's being said from the perspective of someone who was cheated on by their spouse. i can totally understand having trust issues after that. who wouldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:57 PM
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she meant that she is going to have a really hard time trusting men after she was betrayed. why is that so incendiary? you saying that your exes were sluts would be misogynistic. you saying you are having a hard time trusting the new women you date because you were cheated on, is not misogynistic. it's perfectly understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:32 PM
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and? not every woman is frothing at the mouth to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:30 PM
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that's exactly what i said. referring to sexual market place value as being "born with value" is bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:26 PM
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no if a women gets turned on when a man pays that's a kink
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:24 PM
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she didn't mean it literally. she did not mean literal prison. she meant a metaphorical prison where men will have to earn her trust rather than it being freely given.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:23 PM
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she's a CONGRESSWOMAN. how is she directionless?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:14 PM
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freaking gorgeous
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:10 PM
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a waitress being friendly is deception and manipulation? jfc come on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:07 PM
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yes, people who don't see their partners as disposable are the real losers. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:02 PM
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...she loved him specifically and didn't see him as easily replaceable? like, wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:57 PM
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no, it's not a failure of feminism it's a promising, imperfect but evolving, win for medical science.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:50 PM
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good to know!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:45 PM
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women attempt suicide more than men Try again if you're willing to be honest this time, otherwise don't bother. all i did was try and answer thoughtfully and honestly jfc, dude Patheticly screaming for attention does not equal actually offing themselves and you're pearl clutching over women of having no empathy for men? you're a total hypocrite
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:44 PM
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it's so weird to me when men say this because, we all agree that both men and women have innate value as human beings right? so what you're basically saying is, pussy is in higher demand than dick, right? but framing that as being "born with more value" is bizarre and frankly kind of gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:31 PM
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everyone knows that men are physically stronger than women. that's one of the reasons women are scared of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:24 PM
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that is a (right or wrong, your choice) common SOCIETAL expectation and has nothing to do with biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:22 PM
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"by finding out you're not a real person to women, but a status symbol, and as a low status dude you're am insufficient status symbol. You'll Never be loved, you'll be spat on and ridiculed by women everywhere because your entirely at the mercy of their judgements and women" this is essentially saying that women are incapable of romantic love with men which is categorically false. a woman can only love or desire a man of high status? what about the couples that meet when they're teens or college…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:12 PM
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kay, no, i didn't see that when i was dating i didn't pander to men and was just myself as well, but i wouldn't describe that as not taking men seriously or assuming men didn't know what they were talking about when they stated their preferences, but you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:07 AM
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are you talking about u/Steakman1 ? cause that's a dude
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:12 AM
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yeah, i was speaking generally i understand that your initial comment was supposed to be a dunk on women and not yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 12:39 AM
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people get way more turned on by nonchalance than desperation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 11:52 PM
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did your status as an adult affect your self-perception starting back when you were a child? no, because that's literally impossible? ah. i'm not just talking about dating. not everything is about dating. i'm talking about the lifelong lived experience of girls and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 09:14 PM
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"How if he the misandrist when your (sic you're) the one coming in the the BS feminist talking points? And what 3 ot 4 easily debunked points?" i didn't call him a misandrist. what? nothing i said has been debunked. here is the data on lesbian DV in one place - here i said that women and children being prioritized in maritime disasters was largely a myth and provided an article that concluded the same thing. how did someone, somehow debunk that?
/r/MensRights13/08/26 08:21 PM
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"learning at a super young age you will be valued mainly for your looks doesn't come with a sense of empowerment, if anything it's the opposite" "that's exactly the same feeling as when you grow up and realize there are some people who will date you based on your money" "...is it though?" "yes" ---- great, thanks for taking the time to try and see it from a woman's perspective, not immediately making it about men, and not totally proving OPs title is correct. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:19 PM
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when you were a little boy did women come up to you and say you were going to be "a real heartbreaker" because of your social status?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 06:35 PM
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how could it possibly feel the same as being judged and categorized for your physical appearance? maybe something comparable for men could be height or dick size. but social status? eta - also this happens for girls starting from elementary school
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 04:38 PM
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nice work, momma! 🩷
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 04:12 PM
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100% in agreement with you there. i also wish for male oral birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 04:10 PM
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realizing most human males will decide your value (in their eyes) based off of whether you're pretty or not pretty is depressing and it certainly doesn't feel like "realizing our sexual power" even if you're categorized as pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 03:54 PM
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not saying men have it better in regards to having a sex life, just that men do have it better in regards to birth control. you don't have to take something that changes your body chemistry. and just not taking it, when it's available, and pregnancy is such huge life altering thing that it can prevent, doesn't really make sense risk-wise to a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 03:22 PM
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those pill side effects can directly affect your desire to have sex because of the shift in hormones so it can just completely defeat the whole purpose. it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 03:10 PM
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not in my experience. the way so many guys talked about girls starting in middle school, into high school, and college, was so hurtful and completely put me off of the idea of ever having casual sex and i never have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 03:02 PM
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ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:20 AM
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dragging little girls into her baseless opinion about adult sexual dynamics? really quality work! i looked into the author and she wrote her book 55 years ago and made super broad claims about both sexes that were based on her opinions not on any kind of findings or empirical research. she said that women were less intelligent than men, while also claiming women could manipulate men, and therefore society, with machiavellian machinations. just drivel IMO. your best bet for finding a woman who do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:14 AM
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the idea that twelve year old girls are thinking about how to manipulate the system, and men via sex actually makes me want to cry. it is so so so profoundly wrong and untrue. and dangerous to think this way. it's galling. "make use of her vagina"???!!! no 6th or 7th grade girl on earth is thinking this way, much less "most" women. jfc i hadn't even been kissed by then. i still believed in true love. it never occurred to me to not consider following my dreams because there'd be some man to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:52 PM
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i mean IMO, it's one of the most vile, incorrect, sexist, deranged, truly infuriating and frankly sickening things i've ever read in regards to young girls and women. and it makes me wonder, if you feel this way about women, why on earth would you want one as part of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 10:17 PM
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that is truly chilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 09:54 PM
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i watched some of the video link you provided. "By the age of twelve at the latest, most women have decided to become prostitutes. Or to put it another way, they have planned a future for themselves which consists of choosing a man and letting him do all the work. In return for his support, they are prepared to let him make use of their vagina at certain given intervals. The minute a woman has made this decision, she ceases to develop her mind." do you agree with this assessment of women, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 09:19 PM
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"we’re better" not at using descriptive adjectives apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:07 PM
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"Well in my personal opinion I think men are better." i'm curious to know the reasoning behind this opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:59 PM
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what are you talking about? everything she said was factual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:30 PM
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And yet many still expect men to pay for dates otherwise they stop liking them. aren't you saying that you don't like, and wouldn't be compatible with, a woman who expected you to pay on the first date? so great. she doesn't like you, you don't like her. that's the worst possible outcome here? a woman won't like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 06:26 PM
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i feel like most men feel this way, no? is that just an incorrect assumption on my part? like, don't most men prefer/idolize male artists, athletes, authors? and a huge amount of men, like right here on this sub, empathize with other men and feel protective of manhood in general especially when women criticize men's actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:24 PM
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😭 (i tried, guys 🥕💔)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:17 PM
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i call literally every service worker, who is male obvs, sir. the gentlemen on the waitstaff, the men landscaping the neighborhood, our awesome repair man who comes and fixes things we're clueless about. just, you know, "thank you, sir" "how's your morning going, sir?" my mom and dad always did it and i guess i just picked it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:06 PM
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well, this makes me physically ill gonna go stare into the middle distance for a couple hours
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:00 PM
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might i throw a freshly peeled crunchy carrot out there for your consideration? 🥕
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:59 PM
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oh in that case i'll alert the president
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:43 PM
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"Mostly I just start kissing and touching and expect my partner to reciprocate." huh...i'm tempted to ask if there was any kind of foreplay or initiation she would have preferred but since you're not together anymore i guess it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:23 AM
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yeah, i don't actually know the specific stats on it, but i think a pretty big number of women are able to have orgasms from masturbation. not all of course. i think it's lower in hetero sex because the emphasis is often on PIV sex which a much lower number of women can orgasm from alone, now PIV with clitoral stimulation is another story, but still not a 100% guarantee. and yes there are other factors for sure like mental blocks, stress, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:49 PM
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telling an adult women whose passion is surfing that she can't post pics of herself in a bathing suit is nuts. let me go date a MMA fighter and tell him he has to always wear a shirt. like...whaaaa?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:06 PM
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hell yessss! i met michael sheen once and he is a ceeeutie! very attentive conversationalist, makes you feel like the only person in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:03 PM
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she wanted a relationship. not casual sex. why would she say yes to something she doesn't want?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:01 PM
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i guess i'm not really sure what your point is. she wasn't a hoe he tried to turn into a housewife. she was a surfer. he tried to tell her how to live her life including not posting pictures of her passion. she ultimately decided it wasn't worth it and they broke up. maybe she was being vindictive, maybe she wanted his wife to know these details about him and their relationship. okay. most likely neither one of them are awesome people. but the way you framed it like, she was some loser he scrape…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:57 PM
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i don't think being pissed off at your dick ex-boyfriend means he has control over you. she just wanted the rest of the world to know what a hypocritical, weaponizing therapy-speak, pretentious dork he is. i mean even jay baruchel admitted he hated jonah hill for years
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:32 PM
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Most women struggle to orgasm do you mean at all ever, or during sex with a male partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:21 PM
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i mean...jonah hill's ex-gf was a professional surfer and he told her she couldn't post bathing suit pics or surf with men. seems pretty bonkers to me. eta - semi pro surfer
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:13 PM
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*gaslit any chance you talked to her about why her libido might have lowered before dumping her or...? eta - i've actually seen gaslighted used a lot so i looked it up, and if you're talking about lighting a literal gaslight, it's gaslit. if you're referring to the term gaslight as first introduced in the play and then film Gas Light, it is in fact, gaslighted. my mistake and i learned something new today. thank you for your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 07:02 PM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:55 PM
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there are lots of reasonable issues that are overblown like they're an epidemic on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:54 PM
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that's literally what's in his bio, how is that my insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:49 PM
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yes, i understand, there are posts of men complaining about paying for dates like 4 times a week on this sub may i ask what this means to you? "Yes, i would love to be with a woman who isn't like other girls."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:47 AM
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Right but you said not like other girls and I’m saying that’s like plenty of girls
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:01 AM
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this is interesting feels kinda of weird just saying this but i'm reasonably objectively attractive, not in a supermodel way, in a petite brunette with an above average face kind of way and i've actually never really registered men who approach me as wanting to "benefit" from my looks, or thought like, how dare this fat man think he has a shot? i would just think "not interested" and try to be polite the only times i was, like, offended is if it was a man 20 - 30 years older than me with his wif…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 12:44 AM
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correct me if i'm wrong but this basically sounds like "i pedestaled sex until i had some and realized it wasn't that big of a deal"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:44 PM
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he just wants to make sure he's not offending the big-boobed "preferably dumb or ignorant" sex machine he's too respectful to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:42 PM
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yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:27 PM
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do you have any kind of actual point to make or are you just enjoying being antagonistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:09 PM
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mine and millions of women's lived experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:02 PM
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i understand that. but then how are you "going to say yes to a female life partner"? in this hypothetical is she pursuing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:01 PM
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you're saying this like it's unique and isn't the kind of "friendship" most women receive from men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:53 PM
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i guess i'm conflating finding a female life partner with dating because how else would you find them? you mean like if you and a female friend just agreed to be life partners or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:35 PM
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would you still want a female life partner if sex couldn't be involved, is an interesting question. i'm sure there are men who would say yes. lots will say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:58 PM
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i think there's a distinction here that's important. women dressing up to feel like their most attractive selves, to put on their cutest tightest dress, whatevs, wear the more eye catching jewelry that she owns but can't wear at work, etc. can be doing that just for herself and to feel her most glammed up for a fun night out. she could be doing all those things in the hope of attracting the attention of a man she is mutually attracted to, and all the other attention is just excessive fallout to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:14 PM
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open arms
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 08:02 PM
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there are plenty of women who don't expect/require the man to pay on the first date. plenty of women who will offer to pay. you just need to find them. we all have to dig through what we don't want to find the person we do, ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:47 PM
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man talks to other man about philosophy = hey, good talk. other man = totally. man talks to woman about philosophy = we're attracted to each other, right? woman = huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:03 PM
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really excited for his chris hansen movie
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:21 PM
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my point is if you have boobs lots of men will think talking about this stuff is foreplay instead of understanding it's just a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:05 PM
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that's not what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:04 PM
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lollllll this is legit one of the funniest things ive ever seen You know those old movies and stories about a man meeting the cute girl next door cashier or waitress? that never existed, movies aren't real life i understand that you've decided your mission in life is to make women feel bad about their weight but you dont seem to live on planet earth so good luck i can only assume that your BMI is 18 and your penis is 7 to 8 inches? because you wouldn't have the audacity to criticize others if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 09:09 AM
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i mean, i'm just at my mother's house i still have to account for my children's behavior. just go to some of the other men focused subs and you'll see what's up. r/PurplePillDebate is pretty much all about tearing married women down. you guys are just newbie redditors i'm guessing
/r/MensRights08/08/26 08:15 AM
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the funniest thing in the world might be men pissing their pants about how no woman will fuck them, and then mocking any woman who attempts to understand where they're coming from. and then screaming that women are emotional. usually i'm pretty open to male virgins trying to humble me on the internet but this time i just cannot let it pass. you have no clue what feminism is or what the various ideologies are within that framework. you have not bothered to look beyond me likey pussy why pussy no …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:03 AM
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:) i have a son and a daughter. it's super important to me that i understand what is going on societally and culturally for both of their sakes, and i take an active interest in straight male/female interactions because they are ever-evolving and not exactly the same as when i was their age. social media has changed the landscape of young people's lives in a way that i'm hoping to understand and navigate in a way that is beneficial to them both. i don't want to demonize either gender. i have big…
/r/MensRights08/08/26 07:49 AM
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haha, I’m not gonna read that essay after reading the first sentence. I’ve never heard of a man complaining about a woman outperforming anyone in college this is, honestly, so cute. i know i sound condescending but the fact that you don't know how often women outperforming men is brought up as a reason men should hate women is pretty naive and cute. like, legitimately. the redpill, purplepill, goldpill, all these ideologies, for the most part absolutely despise female achievement I went to schoo…
/r/MensRights08/08/26 07:05 AM
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therapy is just finding a mental health professional skilled and empathetic enough to guide you to an understanding of why you made certain choices at certain times in your life. it helps you understand where ingrained perceptions come from, why you blame yourself for things, why you don't take enough accountability for other things, just parsing out truths. it is just examining and making sense of the human emotional experience. anyone labeling that as "bullshit" sounds like a psychopath to me …
/r/MensRights08/08/26 04:06 AM
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part of it is because plenty of men will try to sell men (as a concept) as more dimensional than that. and not only interested in that. (teehee) and so we will often actually believe that ( i know) and give men the benefit of the doubt and think, "good grief, don't jump to conclusions, despite what your high school guy friends told you, men are actually multi-dimensional humans who value friendship, discussions about current and past cultural issues, movies, music, philosophy, etc as an importan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:27 AM
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it is so goddamned hilarious that you are complaining about paying for dinner. but I'M too focused on my own bubble? sure sure
/r/MensRights08/08/26 03:08 AM
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OMG no! not poorly worded!! oh god no the poor men!!!! women were just trying to make sure that other women's experiences and words weren't immediately discounted as "hysterical' and 'too emotional" by people in general and in the court of public opinion. you thinking that an organic movement of women finally having the courage and the solidarity (achievable through social media) to address a MASSIVE cultural issue was part of feminist propaganda and a narrative strategy makes me think that you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 03:05 AM
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no. haha a free meal ticket? you guys complain about women outperforming men in college and in the workplace and then are somehow convinced that women of quality just want your money? if you go out on a dating app date, and she was just using you for a free meal that's because she sucks. not because all the datable (employed) women on earth are just trying to get free food. how is that logical? there are women who make the conscious choice to be a part of the military, while many men make the ch…
/r/MensRights08/08/26 02:56 AM
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this is just you desperately grasping at straws when you know you are wrong. women don't want you to die in wars. wealthier men do,
/r/MensRights08/08/26 01:54 AM
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all i'm pointing out is that the pearl clutching anti-feminist men do over the "women and children" thing is ridiculous. why are you mad at women for something that OTHER MEN decided was best? men at the top decided that other men were expendable and yet you're mad at...women and children? like...? you're posting comments about women being superficial and not having each other's backs? well...first, you're generally wrong. and second, women don't see you as expendable war casualties, other men d…
/r/MensRights08/08/26 01:52 AM
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just google the stats, i'm sure you'll comprehend them
/r/MensRights08/08/26 01:43 AM
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not sure how that is in any way relevant to the idea of the benefit of the doubt. can you explain how your example "take advantage of women" vs "take advantage of ALL women" is relevant to women discussing their lived experiences? eta - men are predators...not ALL men!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:41 AM
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it’s because you ARE inferior fighters. oh, okay, so you agree. why would you complain about this then? put ten women in a room and see how many of you get along after 24 hours. lol i see. you understand that this is just misogyny right? i grew up with the same group of girlfriends, we all knew each other from age 5. we're still friends now, living in different cities, at different stages of our lives. i guess it's comforting to think that men have each other's back but women never do. except th…
/r/MensRights08/08/26 01:36 AM
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really? how could it be though? i remember being so relieved that other women were willing to talk about their lived experiences, and be honest about them, because it gave me the courage to speak up about things i had experienced that i thought i was just supposed to internalize as part of being a woman. then of course a bunch of men told us to shut up. and then people said, everyone is so used to dismissing what women say in favor of what men say because of the pervasive cultural idea that men …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:55 AM
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"like generally being a bitch for no reason" lol, are you 15 years old? i've been apologized to by my mom, my best friend, my 6 year old daughter, i've apologized to them, to my husband, like... if we are expected to understand that not every man is an aggressive sex monster, maybe you can accept that the women you hang with aren't indicative of every woman? eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:28 PM
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100%. it's honestly so easy to just dismiss something so absolute, it seems insane to just go with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:24 PM
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generally speaking the majority of the ire tends to get focused at the inoffensive majority this comes across like you have no clue how pervasive sexual harassment was (and still can be) for your average women in your average workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 09:03 PM
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it's interesting because from what i remember it was initially just "believe women" meaning don't discount a woman's experience as the default. then conservatives added the "all" in order to sob about the absolutism of it and easily discount it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 08:58 PM
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statistically it's overwhelming most likely to be a man that breaks in. that's just a fact, not something i'm making up. your anecdotal event doesn't change that. the lesbian couple thing and female leaders are the most tired arguments brought up by every anti-woman, ant-feminist ever and they're wrong. literally just google the claims of lesbian couple violence yourself like i did - "the CDC did not find that lesbian couples have the highest rate of domestic violence. It measured lifetime IPV v…
/r/MensRights07/08/26 07:48 PM
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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7567974/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 03:22 PM
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i'm talking about how it was debunked for maritime disasters https://www.cbsnews.com/news/women-and-children-first-just-a-myth-researchers-say/ i mean, i hear you, conscription is bad no doubt about it. the governments of the world need to do away with it. i understand how being expected to face (the extremely rare cases) of home intruders, would be annoying, but a man is almost certainly the person breaking into your house, so it's logical you would need another man to confront him i mean, fema…
/r/MensRights07/08/26 03:11 PM
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i asked a question. is there an answer or just downvotes...?
/r/MensRights07/08/26 01:18 AM
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why is it difficult to believe? because he can play wry, humorous, cool guys? he always sounds like a self-involved dingus in interviews. he comes across as very likable because he has an army of public relations people and brand managers doing everything they can to keep his brand A-list and viable. he's like his own economy and A LOT of people's livelihoods would go down the tubes if he fell from grace. that's why him losing his shit on his family on a private aircraft isn't known by your aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 12:26 AM
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how often, and where, are you seeing this phrase? like on news reports or something? because women and children being saved first in maritime disasters and stuff is mostly a myth
/r/MensRights06/08/26 11:44 PM
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getting divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:34 PM
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possibly controversial opinion, but sometimes i feel like male genital aesthetics would look better with just a dick and no balls
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:32 PM
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okay after reading your other replies i think what you're asking is - if a man, even before he is sexually active, sees a specific sex act he wants to try, is it wrong to try and use a woman sexually to do that sex act, even if you're not really into her. is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:27 PM
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yeah. i'm struggling to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:24 PM
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you mean as in, just seeing and desiring a woman because of her physical attributes but not caring about who she is as a person? like, using her "as a means to an end" i.e. just to get laid? or just wanting a girlfriend and almost any woman will do? i mean i personally see anyone who just settles for someone of the opposite gender without specifically liking that person as pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:23 PM
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"I don't really get all this proud talking about "normal men who are not like that" not like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:15 PM
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Try a new therapist because that wording and attitude are not professional
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:32 PM
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Don’t ingest anything but water after 5pm
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:10 PM
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neither one of them has given any specific details as to why they are splitting up other than "they grew apart" as far as i know. no one has said anything about losing attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 08:40 PM
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top 5 cruise movies? mine: magnolia the color of money mission impossible (1996) a few good men top gun: maverick
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 08:35 PM
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well that’s obviously in no way factual and just your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:08 AM
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well adjusted, mature adult humans who love each other do not just stop loving each other for no reason. they can go through dry periods of sex if they're together for decades but as the other poster said, it's more of an ebb and flow state what you are describing is someone who has the emotional capacity of a 15 year old OR used manipulation to get married in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:16 AM
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i believe she is saying even if it outright stops at some point, if you know the reason, it's understandable and/or addressable, and probably not dead forever. it won't just stop because one partner is like, "you know what, for unexplainable reasons, never touch me again!" just out of the blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:58 AM
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no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:47 AM
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i mean, sure, some women on this earth are manipulative wack jobs. but are you implying that women use sex as a means to get their husbands to do chores? i've seen the opposite where if the man isn't naturally inclined to pulls his weight around the house, the woman starts to view him as incompetent/childlike and unsexy and loses interest in him sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:26 AM
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you're saying that you saw a video where women admitted to using sex as a weapon and you assumed that applied to the majority of married couples...?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:18 AM
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not sure what you're trying to say here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:16 AM
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because that's not what is being said. it's not an ultimatum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:02 PM
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what people mean when they say that is, make sure you are sharing the household workload so your wife is not overly stressed, and therefore in a position to be relaxed enough for sex not literally chores = sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:56 PM
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i could be mistaken but i thought when you see women online say they don't need men, it was more so saying they don't need a man as a romantic partner to complete their lives. not that if every single man on earth evaporated society would be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:24 PM
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i also take issue with the word intimacy in this context. i know that everyone online uses it as a synonym for sex but "deny intimacy" makes it sound like the women is gatekeeping emotional closeness. she just doesn't want to have sex, that's what we're talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:59 PM
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i've done deep dives on the 80/20 figure because it's brought up all the time. especially over on r/purplepilldebates, and it all stems from that one ok cupid study. people talking about it a few weeks ago just means people were once again incorrectly referencing the study. yes, i think in hetero dating women are more in demand than men. there are tradeoffs like, women have to think about their safety in a way that men generally don't. but in terms of options, women do have more, even if they're…
/r/MensRights05/08/26 09:36 PM
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all you guys do is criticize women it's your fav hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:08 PM
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there aren't more studies that show women find 80% of men unattractive. that is the study and it is misused all over the internet by youtubers and tik tokers trying to get views for their channel.
/r/MensRights05/08/26 09:02 PM
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no there aren't. that's where that figure comes from.
/r/MensRights05/08/26 08:58 PM
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"heres a study that shows women find 80 percent of men to be unattractive" this figure is from an ok cupid blog from 2009 in which the female users of ok cupid rated (based on a photograph only) 20% of men as above average and 80% of the profile pics as average to below average. the women involved still messaged and showed interest in a way bigger variety of men than just the above average rated guys. this study is misunderstood and misquoted all the time so just clarifying.
/r/MensRights05/08/26 08:36 PM
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Truth be told men in my experience a lot more attuned to the true important jobs. women make up the majority of elementary school teachers, and NICU nurses both men and women can have important jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:27 PM
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So yes it is perfectly fine to not be a feminist and infact have some arrangement that let men enjoy sex and intimacy in society too or let society collapse and nature take over which would not be best for women but ensure everyone a free and fair chance at living what does this mean? like, literally what is being said here? feminists are trying to stop men who work hard labor jobs from enjoying sex? and if feminists don't stop (doing this thing they aren't doing at all) then society will collap…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:21 PM
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i think the majority of women are extremely aware that men and society at large want them to have babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:05 PM
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women want to be friendly acquaintances first so we have a sense of who you are. we generally don't want our guy friend from college, who we've never shown any romantic interest in, to suddenly put on angel by aerosmith, say i've never felt this way before, and then try to kiss us out of nowhere. (whew! sorry, flashbacks)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:57 PM
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well what was the issue? is it something that can be worked on?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:15 PM
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"Many women also seem to lack a deeper sense of self and are content to go along with the status quo. They are easily swayed by social norms and trends and have little interest in questioning or challenging them. They generally just play the role they've been conditioned to play by their parents and society without any real awareness or agency." this is not exclusive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:00 PM
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so did you know that about vaginas or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:26 PM
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i didn't say dead bedrooms = men only care about PIV i said one major aspect of a dead bedroom is predictability and lack of orgasms. and always defaulting to PIV can exacerbate that issue. orgasms and intimacy aren't the same thing but when one side is orgasming way less than the other one it can lead to resentment. if the woman is having sex that she looks forward to, where she's getting off, a dead bedroom is pretty unlikely doesn't mean PIV isn't central to intimacy for many couples. i just …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:22 PM
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i stated factual information about vaginas and arousal that a lot of men are unaware of/oblivious to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:52 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:43 AM
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i personally like to give them as little power as possible. and at this point in my life, it's sincere. unless i'm going to be thinking of you on my death bed, your opinion means absolutely zero. i do not care. this usually results in a wry smile from me and a sarcastic "hmm mmm, you know it" and then walking away
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:41 AM
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also pussies can feel really tight when they're not aroused at all, and you have to push because there's no natural lube aroused pussies get wet and open up to receive the man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:37 AM
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whew, oh boy. you do not have to tolerate that kind of nonsense, unless you're into it. let me ask a few clarifying questions about you and your friend if you don't mind. are you both about the same age? and is that age between like 19 and 25? sorry if you've already answered this stuff. what are your jobs? (not asking about income, more so if his is "more interesting" or something) are you attracted to the women he goes out with? like, is he attracting women you would date too? do you guys trul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:23 AM
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not interested unless you can give me an approximate BMI of every man and woman in this video
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:05 AM
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i very much care about the mental health and societal support or lack thereof for men and boys so i will take a look at these studies when i can. that being said, what does this have to do with feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:00 AM
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ah, okay that's interesting. i don't think it's a fetish for a lot of women but i have witnessed this dynamic before. back in school my friend dalina would talk to her huge boyfriend like he was a moron. and he not only tolerated it, he seemed to like it. and she also told me that she liked that he could crush her if he wanted to but he never would. not my vibe, but, yeah it's a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:51 AM
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what do you mean "talking crazy"? i feel like i'm learning so much haha
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:38 AM
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there are women with huge breast implants and overfilled lips who have men falling at their feet, that doesn't mean every man on earth prefers that look, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:35 AM
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lol, i left some other more detailed comments on the post, seemed like overkill to leave one here as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:33 AM
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yes, i was trying to back you up and agree! sorry i didn't convey that clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:32 AM
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huh, that's interesting. i grew up in the southern US so i'm much more familiar with bible belt dads, that whole mindset, and those dudes constantly policing what the girls in the community wear. thank god my dad was normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:24 AM
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gotcha. yeah, straight women have extremely varied tastes 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:22 AM
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and he does absolutely nothing for me because he doesn't seem like he's funny at all and that's okay! ladies like different things, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:18 AM
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wait, what advice are you looking for? how to get as many women as your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:14 AM
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i don't really associate large muscles with masculinity especially since there are so many gloriously fit gay men who don't project traditional masculinity personality-wise. NOT saying gay men can't be, or aren't masculine, just that, there's so much variation, and physical fitness to my eyes just conveys someone that is into fitness. that's it. i do like a deep voice. that's nice. but not a requirement. i like funny men who don't try to neg me. but growing up and into college, one of the things…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:06 AM
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i'm not saying there are zero women wearing revealing clothing. i'm saying men showing nip is considered a non issue and women showing nip is considered scandalous. doesn't seem very misandrist to me. i live in los angeles tho so i see lots of young guys barely dressed, shirts unbuttoned down to their navels, mesh shirts, ya know, all the things which is fine by me, live your life it never would have occurred to me to try and police what someone else is wearing, like, who the fuck do i think i a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:52 PM
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what do you mean lecture? "then women became allowed to reveal a lot of skin." men can go shirtless. outside. in front of everyone. a woman would be arrested for public indecency.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:01 PM
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lol, i mean...i can pull percentages out of thin air as well. as someone who is attracted to men...no. like pretty much all humans, men are at their objectively most attractive in their 20s, and 30s. there are people, men and women who can keep looking reasonably attractive in their 40s for sure, and some who can pull off a silver fox era. but 25% of men getting MORE attractive as they get older? come on. steve carrell is the only man i can think of, that i have ever seen be more attractive at 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:29 PM
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yeah, these are all referencing the 2009 ok cupid survey that is constantly mischaracterized and misunderstood. it's representative of ok cupid members in 2009 not the human population. on okay cupid the women rated the male profiles, based purely on a photo, as 20% being above average and 80% being average or below. despite these initial ratings the women still messaged and showed interest in a way bigger variety of men than just the ones they rated as the highest level of physical attractivene…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:21 PM
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yeesh. does this man want me to be uncomfortable around him or can we keep it cool and stay civil?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:10 PM
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right?! i do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:02 PM
3

some grow more attractive with age this is super rare
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:40 PM
2

just go over to the r/DeadBedrooms sub and you'll see plenty of high libido women complaining that their husbands won't fuck them anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:29 PM
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lol i'm going to start yelling "wrong!" at everyone who disagrees with me, that seems fun. what i mean is, in straight monogamous relationships, the focus from the man's side is often on PIV, and yes a lot of ladies love PIV, however, there's a lot more variation in how a woman can get off. many women can get off with just the clit and no penetration at all. stuff like, grinding, making out, dry-humping, or just oral for her or oral and fingers, all those variations that can be super important i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:22 PM
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i think a big part of not approaching, at least for me, is that it's really difficult to shift your (my) mindset from being on guard and deflecting unwanted approaches, to suddenly being the person inviting and initiating approaches. many women are on guard to some degree, because almost every time we go out in a public space, yes because of cold approaches from strangers but also from what feels like being constantly observed. and my introverted, ADD self is too focused on trying to relax, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:56 PM
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maybe not you but there are dudes with double standards, or religious trauma, and/or madonna whore complexes who definitely think being sexually curious, adventurous (even within a monogamous relationship) is something only "sluts" do and not something their precious, pure wife/girlfriend would even consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:52 PM
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lol what are you even talking about? jeez
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:45 PM
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he's the all powerful, immune to human emotions, built like superman guy who teaches women harsh lessons by not committing to them. in other words, a fantasy frustrated men made up to make them feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:42 PM
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who is this dominant man and why is he so unattainable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:40 PM
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i believe that women get tired of PIV focused monogamy much faster than men do and that's the reason for so many dead bedrooms, not that she was never attracted in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:37 PM
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i mean it's a common thing a lot of women are told. i'm not saying that old or young women en masse actually buy into it. some do. how would you know what young women are or aren't being told by their families and the people in their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:32 PM
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Why would you want to date a woman then? Just as a means to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:41 PM
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Are these percentages backed up at all anywhere? Because the idea that 30% of ALL datable men have so many options they’re just disinterested in a monogamous relationship seems like a big oversimplification. Handsome men with options fall in love and commit. Being a hot man does not automatically mean you buck monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:39 PM
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Who ever tells them to focus more on personality? this is actually a pretty common thing for a lot of women. "give him a chance he might be nice" and variations of that. lots of "ignore your lack of attraction, he could be a diamond in the rough" type of messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:29 PM
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i see, so you will not deign to have a pleasant, or possibly even good, conversation with a woman unless she will be providing you with access to her vagina. is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:33 AM
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the brain is an organ. pregnancy affects/changes every system in the mother's body. you're willing to accept that a woman can build another human body from the ground up, but not willing to accept the process might affect her brain chemistry?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:57 AM
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are you saying that feminists tell high earning women, who want a husband or partner, to give up on that and just hire a nanny and/or a surrogate? never heard that. if a woman either doesn't want to have a male partner, or feels her chances to be a mother are seriously dwindling because of her age, then this advice might be given.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:29 AM
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back at it with the BMIs i see!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:09 AM
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hotels on location for photo shoots, yes each other's houses, the model's mom is a real estate titan out here and they had and i assume still have a massive mansion. the real housewife had a huge house. you guys are always talking about how super handsome dudes play by different rules than average dudes and i'm having to explain to you that mike didn't have to buy them dinner to sleep with them but also didn't use them and toss them aside. why is this so difficult for you? and are you going to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:58 AM
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i usually think of dating as going on actual dates, in addition to the things i mentioned. mike and the women didn't consider themselves as "dating". i don't know what to tell you. as i said, neither woman asked for any kind of commitment or status from him. it could be because they all traveled so much that they didn't want to be pinned down? the real housewife was fairly recently divorced, maybe that's why? hard to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:48 AM
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lol romantic and sexual relationships are not always that clearly defined. "we are ONLY fucking" "we are OFFICIALLY dating" "i will be using you for sex now" have you heard of people seeing each other casually? sometimes it gets more serious. other times it stays casual. my friend mike models but is more so a photographer. he was casually seeing a female model and one of the "real housewives" at the same time. talking to him about it, the women knew he was seeing other people, he assumed they we…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:18 AM
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food is a need. sex is a want. your body will not cease to function if you don't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:25 PM
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hey, same! except i did usually have a drink or two but i ALWAYS paid for my own, no matter how many offers i got for a man to buy them, because then i was making it clear i was just there for my own fun and not to meet someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:11 PM
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r/bodylanguage https://np.reddit.com/r/bodylanguage/comments/1veputz/im_legit_going_insane/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:16 PM
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oh man, the body language sub has at least once a day, sometimes more, a man asking about his "gym crushes" body language. yeesh. here's the start of the latest one -- "So I had this gym crush I swear I was playing eye tag with. I was certain something was going on. She even smiled at me first and had a very brief conversation a long time ago." and it goes on and on. so basically this lady, and countless others, can't even make eye contact and be polite in a place that is supposed to be a safe p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:09 PM
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dan pays for those women to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:55 PM
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catcalling is being yelled at on the street by men you don't know. it's not when a man you don't find attractive speaks to you. they are totally different things but it seems like you think they mean the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:52 PM
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okay, so you actually didn't know what catcalling is. that's what it seemed like from some other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:48 PM
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there were no nationwide opinion polls back then so your claim that it was the majority of women is totally fabricated. there were men and women who opposed suffrage. there were men and women who supported suffrage. several states granted women voting rights before it went nationwide with the 19th.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:45 PM
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there are 2.89 billion women over the age of 18 in the world so, you know...math. you're essentially saying the majority of women on planet earth are psychopaths. bold claim. there are entire movements of men who want to take away women's right to vote in the US. there are groups of men who post "your body my choice" about overturning Roe v Wade here. there are men like you who think there's no harm in catcalling. both men and women can be dismissive and uncaring about the other group's struggle…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:37 PM
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this is a cartoon, why do men keep posting it like it's some kind of evidence? also, he's not catcalling her in the cartoon. do you know what catcalling is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:03 PM
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womens rights would have gotten nowhere without mens support and this is how you repay us. you mean the rights that never should have been restricted by the men in power in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:01 PM
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"the majority of women are happy that this is so high" the majority of women are happy that so many men commit suicide?! that is outrageous. effing absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:54 PM
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catcalling is a power play. it's not just about expressing attraction. it's done to make the girl or woman feel like an object and the man/men feel like he has the upper hand. like many women, i started getting catcalled by adult men when i was still a child. i have distinct memories of just walking down the sidewalk and getting yelled at by cars/trucks full of men at eleven years old. and i didn't look mature for my age. i had braces. it can be legit terrifying. when you get catcalled, it's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:47 PM
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when you find it let me know!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:04 PM
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it seems like you're assuming the women i'm talking about are only sleeping with him in the hopes of him becoming their boyfriend but these women have lots of options too, and not everything is that clearly defined and black and white. people can be attracted to each other, like each other as humans, and still not want a long term relationship with each other because of timing and various other reasons. So they will date uglier guys than these models and actors, but use the models and actors to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:33 PM
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lol I guess what you described is not “hateful” but it’s certainly not ethical by my standards. But really gorgeous men don’t need to operate that way, women don’t feel tossed aside by a gorgeous man having options. A gorgeous man just doesn’t need to treat women badly. If he is kind at all, women will come back. these super handsome guys, who I know, who are professional actors and models, can be very kind but noncommittal. And women do not care, in the same way that a man who slept with a Vict…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:23 AM
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Lol well your condescension is also cute Not a one night stand fan myself but I’ve had many male and female friends throughout my life I have observed who is and isn’t sexually successful and what is appealing about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:03 PM
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what does max out in all categories mean? you are asking me if I think women can find men who they are attracted to, who pay for dates, and want to get serious? I’ve seen it happen quite a few times, hell I’ve seen it happen to friends more than once, it’s happened to me more than once…I’ve been to the weddings of people it’s happened to. I don’t understand, what is your perception of most romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:42 PM
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you think I should shoot my shot? my BMI is 23 but maybe he’ll make an exception? fingers crossed!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:16 PM
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As I said, pretty likely. Cute men with jobs who want serious relationships are not insanely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 09:08 PM
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there are lots of cute men who want serious girlfriends/wives, guys. they're not mythical creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:46 PM
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it's different from befriending people platonically but it's not a super specific subset of social skills, guys. it's just being relaxed, friendly, and flirtatious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:44 PM
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😏 you're right, i'm obsessed with automaticmeaning3844! maybe if i can get my BMI down to 19 he'll notice me!! it's just pattern recognition. it comes naturally to a lot of people. you don't have to study someone closely to observe really obvious patterns. he put it all out there for us all to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:38 PM
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i noticed a consistent pattern in the public comments he makes. may i ask why you care that i asked him for an explanation? are you also super invested in the weight of women you don't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:16 PM
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Now women get used and abused constantly by hot guys who treat them like toys. in what world do you actually think this is happening "constantly" to women? there have always been people, men and women, who use people for sex. there have always been people looking for something more meaningful sexually. like, some tik tok videos or something really have you convinced that there is an epidemic of women en masse getting tossed aside by hot guys? one of the funniest things about this is the assumpti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:03 PM
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ah, i see. i didn't realize just having social skills was considered top tier behavior for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:51 PM
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he mentions those exact specifications for a woman's BMI in 80% of the comments he leaves, and has his own personal weight rating system for once the women get bigger than that. i believe it's: fat; obese; and landwhale
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:48 PM
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it is just wild to be that so many guys here think that women are incapable of wanting to eff the hell out of the man they fall in love with, and see a future with. have you guys heard of falling in love? do you have any clue how much a woman, particularly a high libido woman, wants to f*ck the man she loves? a helluva lot more than some dude she hooked up with once. i can understand the fear of being settled for, but you create this fiction where there are two distinct categories for men "hot, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:41 PM
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okay, got it. generally speaking, the guys who are capable of getting ONS know how to initiate physical contact, and then escalate physical contact based on her reactions/responses. they don't have to be james bond in terms of looks and confidence. and they don't have to be the top of the top, whatever that might mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:26 PM
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understanding the psychology of a pedophile, and knowing the tell-tale and more subtle signals that someone is one, does not mean the same thing as extending them sympathy or empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:10 PM
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it really comes across like it's a fetish or obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:06 PM
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"Casual ONS really are reserved for those at the top." you're describing a super boring profile with nothing to capture a woman's interest. why would a person with options waste their time with that? how does a lame profile attracting very little interest, translate to only "the top" men getting ONS?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:04 PM
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please explain the process of easily getting a girlfriend if you're unattractive and awkward. how does that work? what are the steps involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:51 PM
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pedophiles who act on their urges don't deserve one ounce of understanding or empathy ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:45 PM
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i've never felt entitled to the man paying for a date. i have always offered to split the bill. the man has always insisted on paying. like would not let me pay. is that considered simp behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:31 PM
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may i ask how you landed on this obsession with a woman having a 19-21 BMI? because you bring it up A LOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 04:55 PM
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i'd have to disagree with women not being interested in jobs that can be stressful and draining, as so many women sign up to be mothers, which can also of course be wonderful but it's not easy. not so much jealously as a desire to be equally represented in those high power jobs. i don't disagree at all that you have to be a psychopath to want those jobs lol. and there are statistically fewer female psychopaths so maybe you're onto something there.
/r/MensRights02/08/26 02:04 AM
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Social issues, philosophy, psychology, meditation, art you're not going to believe this but...the average man doesn't bring these up as discussions either. the "average" man is generally interested in sports and pussy. maybe also cars...wow...maybe also porn...and maybe podcasts about how amazing men are and how lame women are...jeez, these guys are so fascinating...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:57 AM
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i see, well, when people refer to a patriarchy, at least in the US, they are generally referring to how men still hold the majority of powerful positions ie CEOs, the president of the united states, senators, governors, etc
/r/MensRights02/08/26 01:45 AM
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with the first one, she was very clearly looking for a man she deemed sexually desirable to meet for a hookup. you met her criteria for a sexually desirable hookup. then you told her you were too busy with work all week. so she found another man she deemed sexually desirable who didn't have a week so busy that he couldn't eff her, and unmatched you. that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:24 AM
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What’s an example of deceptive self presentation to elicit sympathy from the larger group?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 10:08 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:31 PM
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well I’m on the edge of my seat to hear about your thrilling hobbies! eta to add - still waiting! did you design a whole lego city or anything? what's the awesome hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:30 PM
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i understand you don't have the imagination to think of any other hobby a human being might have and understand women could enjoy that hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:17 PM
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i understand you resent women and so you don't want society to protecting them but how could a society that caters to protecting children be a bad thing?
/r/MensRights01/08/26 06:14 PM
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no, not the majority, just women you don't seem to be able to attract lol i knew you would dismiss literally any hobby i listed, men are so boring and predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:10 PM
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okay, so your definition of "normal" is actually "consensual". BDSM has existed for way longer than the 90s lol, it was just more niche and not as mainstream as it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:01 PM
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sorry you don't attract interesting women you know there are women who are doctors of philosophy, and literal rocket scientists, and filmmakers, and musicians and authors, professors, scientists, hell there are women with more basic jobs but have cute interesting hobbies like cosplaying, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:56 PM
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haha so women are basic, boring, and childlike but you're not projecting your own mental image of women onto them? sure, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:53 PM
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no. lol. no. in fact, a lot of men who approach, put out the exact same energy as the one before. and the one before. they think you have to approach and talk to a woman in a certain way, rather than just being themselves. so it's just like different drones walking up to you saying the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:50 PM
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i think when people are talking about porn being fake, it's not so much that aspect of it as it is like, all the women looking like they're able to come from PIV, a lot of the angles and positioning used are more for the camera than for actual pleasure, or how a lot of men don't realize the ones where they just pick a woman up off the street are actually pre-staged, stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:34 PM
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choking wasn't "normalized" as part of an average straight sexual encounter until the last decade or so. i mean, if we're talking about porn, look at porn from like 2000 -2009 ish, the women are not being choked very often. it became much more common in porn and then much more common as an expectation in the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:29 PM
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an opportunistic, unethical, hate spewing waste of oxygen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:22 AM
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did you know gisele bündchen has a fraternal twin named patricia? she's attractive but she's not a supermodel
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:18 AM
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i watched her mindset basically go from - we've been talking for a while and i really like him and i hope our mutual acquaintance i asked about him is wrong about him being a misogynist, to (after all the replies) realizing he probably isn't the great guy she built him up to be and deciding to just sleep with him to pass the time, to realizing that sleeping with a misogynist who is known for discarding women is actually not the ideal casual situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:49 AM
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ask them about themselves. background, family, favorite drink (offer to buy it, if you want), school, hobbies, unusual interests, people often like talking about themselves. also generally speaking most people are at least somewhat interested in movies, music, shows. what are their favorites? why? who is the most underrated actor/musician out there? who is the most overrated? you know...stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:42 AM
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it's not man-hating circle jerk at all over there. there are posts about moving, life changes, surgery, general anxieties, family problems, getting sober, staying sober, all kinds of stuff. there are dating posts too but they're far from all man-hating. even in the one you linked the OP said she's still probably going to sleep with the guy lol. and there was one earlier where she was asking how to stop obsessing and fantasizing about her former FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:10 AM
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this is really hyperbolic and dramatic women don't constantly say we don't care about looks. we say they aren't the only, or most important, thing that informs our attraction to a man. individual women care about looks to varying degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:15 PM
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forgive me if i sound like a mom here but - in terms of the drinking, i'd suggest going super easy. like, order a beer (not IPA they have more alcohol), and then have a glass of water and see how you feel before having any more. and honestly, probably two beers is best, three over the course of a few hours is probably be the most you want to do. do not, have hard liquor. and honestly i'd avoid wine too on this first booze outing. okay, sorry, i'm done. "...make good choices!"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:56 PM
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guys have one too 😏 r/BoyDinnerDiaries
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:34 PM
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...does he have two enthusiastically willing female friends/partners? if so, yes. if not...it might be an uphill battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:01 PM
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"Women talk about hot men all the time." thank you. yes. *girls and women absolutely freaking out over handsome male movie stars, singers, musicians, influencers, athletes* men: why won't women just admit to liking attractive guys? women: oh, was the screaming, crying and spending all our money on their merch not enough of an admission? men: pffft. women are all shallow and only care about looks, money and status. women: well, actually if you'll notice, while many of us do love the handsome dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:52 PM
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this is for sure an oversimplification but generally, it seems like there are more variables to what an individual straight woman finds attractive/alluring about a man, than what a straight man finds attractive about a woman. lots of men say, looks first, then as long as she's nice to me we're set. and then we get into more varied and specific shades of personalities that men like as individuals, but the consistent thing seems to be physical beauty is the top of the list almost always. when wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:10 PM
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Our society is designed to cater and protect women and children how so?
/r/MensRights31/07/26 06:52 PM
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i mean...a country that was (is? meh) a global superpower. and as you've mentioned there are countries even now where women are considered second class citizens.
/r/MensRights31/07/26 06:50 PM
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okay, i feel like you need to do more research on serial killers, mass murderers, and women who are fans of those people, before trying to debate this. first, being attracted to serial killers and people who commit violent crimes is called hybristolphilia, it's a psychological issue. "Do you really think an ugly serial killer in jail would have gotten hundred of love letters, nude photos, and marriage declarations from women?" yes, i do. charles manson (not technically classified as a serial kil…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:47 PM
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so when women say things like "looks are important but they aren't the only thing" is that not truthful enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:15 PM
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Ted Bundy was not "hot". And he didn't have smoldering bad boy vibes or anything. What made him so remarkable in people's eyes was that he looked like a normal, reasonably attractive (i guess he looked like a total dork to me), man who was able to date, etc in a way that most serial killers are not. he didn't actually look like Zac Efron. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:00 PM
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are you thinking of Ted Bundy? Jeffrey Dahmer was gay and only killed men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:49 PM
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if he is genuinely funny, not obnoxious and always "on", just if he has a witty or humorous take on things, i'm super intrigued. then, is he polite/kind to the server, the bartender, the person who accidentally bumped into him in line? if so, my interest is still there for sure. is he intelligent? capable of abstract thought and empathy? i'm getting a full on crush. if i can i tell in his eyes that he's attracted to me, but he's not constantly trying to steer the conversation toward sex, he is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:47 PM
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jeffrey dahmer did not have "mad vibes" lol he was emotionally flat, struggled to make friends, couldn't make eye contact or hold conversations without being super drunk, like, just really passive and unremarkable in his day to day life
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:32 PM
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that's despicable. sorry that happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:12 PM
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i believe he means approaching lots of different women in the hopes of someone being interested. like the "it's just a numbers game" idea
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:09 PM
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eye contact alone is not enough, if you keep looking back at each other and catching eyes again, that's good if she smiles back after you smile, that's a pretty good but not definitive sign i'll never really understand the men that just stare at me but don't smile. from my POV, a man i don't know, is unmistakably staring at me but is not doing anything to make himself seem friendly or approachable. he's just staring, like we're two dogs on opposite sides of the street or something. i find it int…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:04 PM
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now we're talkin'!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 04:54 PM
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/women-and-children-first-just-a-myth-researchers-say/
/r/MensRights31/07/26 01:01 AM
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women weren't drafted because they were seen as inferior fighters until 1974 and the equal credit opportunity act, banks could, and often did, legally refuse to give bank accounts, credit cards, savings accounts to women and/or could require a the co-sign of a male family member. after the ecoa, it was illegal to discriminate against women in this way
/r/MensRights31/07/26 12:44 AM
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"it is also optimal for women" sorry but old sperm is not biologically optimal for a 20 year old woman. young sperm is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:23 AM
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haha, this is a big revelation to you? if a woman sees that another woman looks comfortable with the man she's speaking to, it helps to signal that he's a safe person to be around. that's it. it's a conversation that's been had and had a again. but sure, hypergamous...stone age...or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:08 AM
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ah hah, so you thought animal rights activists were a myth or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:00 AM
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perhaps they are just trying to understand how such a statistical anomaly is even possible and how a normal looking young man could be in this situation
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:15 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:49 PM
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thank god you included the BMI or i would have gotten really confused and assumed all the men who sob about being persecuted for not wanting to date overweight women had changed their minds! /s how is this male oppression? also, this is not universal. it's nice that you would blush and be flattered by a woman's romantic interest. but, i remember even in college, having cute (and yes, thin) friends who would get crushes on guys only to find out the guy wasn't interested. if a man you aren't sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:47 PM
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and plenty of the contestants purposefully decide to act as toxic as possible or as virtuous as possible, depending on what they want their personality brand to be, in order to stand out and have a better shot at getting popular ie making as much money as possible while the iron is hot eta - also, generally speaking, the story producers and execs pick the contestants that stay, or greatly influence who stays and who goes home, based on who is giving them the best story.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:09 PM
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you thought all human beings get dopamine hits from seeing animals violently murdered?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:04 PM
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this comment made me feel like my heart and stomach were contracting with sadness and despair thanks a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:02 PM
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you mean how she said the person who asks the other person out should pay? and that's why she thought he would pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:09 AM
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getting downvoted by people who hate orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:01 PM
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interesting. i didn't get the impression she felt like she was doing him a favor. she said she self-interrogated/reflected and thought maybe she's been too close-minded about who might actually be a good match for her so she decided to take him up on his offer to get drinks and apps, since they'd always had a good rapport in their interactions. and she liked him and was enjoying the date until he made it weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:58 PM
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ah, totally. fair enough. if i were in her position i would have been unable to control my laughter at how outlandish what he said was. then i would have gotten up, paid the bill in full myself, since it's not any kind of flex to do so, then walked out and blocked him. probably go home take a gummy and watch empire strikes back again. and never think of that man as anything other than a funny story to tell my friends. eta - oh! and as for what i think he was thinking. he seemed like he was tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:02 PM
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yeah, gotta go young as possible to avoid "baggage" right? 🤢 /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:57 PM
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you guys ever check out "the public offender"? woman ditches guy on date after he says something crazy curious to know what we all think the the guy on the date was thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:48 PM
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follow your dreams, sir! make that tall chad, your tall chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:45 PM
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god, that just sounds awesome. eta - having an orgasm 90% of the time with a partner sounds awesome. not sleeping with/fantasizing about someone you hate. no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:18 PM
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A grizzly bear in any random interaction is less likely to do major harm to a Woman than any random interaction with a Man. no. literally no. it is NOT that a bear is less likely to do harm. for the 1,000,000th time - the man vs bear thing was not literal. it was a metaphor to illustrate women's fear of sexual violence and the unpredictability of an unknown man's intentions. not that any man you get stuck with is likely to harm you. the way some men have been totally unable to grasp this is almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:31 PM
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yeah i think it's safe to say that MRA, various feminists sects, anti-feminists,etc are all criticizing the hell out of each other and not giving each other a lot of grace. i will say that my personal view of trad wives is, that if it's what they want to do with their lives that's fine. i'm glad i'm able to make a different choice for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:06 PM
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it's not universal. how would that even be possible? there is no universal rule that casual sex guys must be more attractive than long term relationship guys. both men and women prioritize looks slightly more for short term stuff. looks are still important in LTRs but other, deeper, qualities also come into play then. women are not only having casual sex with exceptionally attractive men. guys are chosen for all different reasons - mutual attraction, the overall context of the social situation, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:24 AM
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okay, i think i'm following you. let me make sure. feminists aren't given any, sort of, societal charity because they don't offer that charity to people who disagree with them such as MRA, ant-feminists, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:47 AM
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i wrote what i'm having a problem with in my previous comment. Unlike women with men, most men see most women as humans sir, are you suggesting that women objectify men more than men objectify women? because human trafficking stats, and virtually the entire porn industry beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:39 AM
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decently to me indicates more than a tiny trifle or a smidge, but honestly i don't really gaf about quibbling over what the exact level of attraction is we're talking about here. i feel purposefully targeting someone you deem less attractive than you, in order to gain experience for some future hypothetical someone you already see as superior to them, is unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:31 PM
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Being a feminist isn’t a relationship role; it’s a belief in an ideology. An ideology that doesn’t automatically make someone a good or bad partner. yes, thank you. exactly. but it seems they aren’t held to the same standard because they dont give this level of charity to any other group they disagree with. which groups that they disagree with are we talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:24 PM
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feminism is an ideology with the core belief that all genders are deserving of the same societal rights and opportunities. there are various sects, eras, and levels of radicalism underneath that framework. but, in what universe would "my money is mine and his money is ours" be a common feminist belief? in what universe would feminists be complaining about the lack of masculine men? i saw one comment where someone said that feminists require a man to be tall. there seems to be some kind of mass c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:12 PM
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ewwwwww.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:01 PM
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yes. they. do. gloria steinem, one the the world's most famous feminists, specifically criticizes the patriarchy and the pressures and roles it forces on men and women. she and MANY feminists who follow her, 100% challenge the idea that men have to be the primary income earners. A feminist may have a job and pay for things. But unlike men, she does it out of choice, not obligation. what? you mean when i was a young single woman supporting myself (married now and we're both freelance so we take t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:44 PM
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"That's why feminists prefer men which are traditional when it comes to giving, but don't expect women to be traditional when it comes to giving." where are you getting this information? what feminists are you talking about? do you just mean modern wives/girlfriends who aren't trad? they aren't all feminists...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:28 PM
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it has just never been my experience that, feminists or feminism in general, are/is particularly concerned with dating and romantic relationships with men, outside of addressing safety concerns, and consent, things along those lines. i keep seeing on this sub that "feminists" all want this from men and that from men. but there are male feminists. there are lesbian feminists. there are asexual feminists. there are unmarried, single feminists, radical feminists, intersectional feminists, and as i'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:19 PM
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meaning what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:07 PM
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i know plenty of men with reasonably good, to high emotional intelligence and it doesn't seem like it was some massive undertaking for them to achieve it. they just...lived their lives as far as i can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:06 PM
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many feminist in general okay, but not the feminists i surround myself with. one of the biggest gains in feminism IMO was the choice to either have a career or be a homemaker, as the boomers called it. you want your husband to basically be your boss? all good by me, but that also could never be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:02 PM
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how?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:26 PM
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huh. never heard of choice feminism. and i'll tell you what, now that i have, i'd say IMO it's a total horseh*t POV. i will 100% judge women and men for voting for a violent, narcissistic predator/r*pist misogynist. i support their right to make that choice, and i will shake my head at the choice, wondering how anyone could be so misguided, and wondering when some of the women of the world will stop gleefully internalizing misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:22 PM
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you have got to get some female friends who see men as people. jeez.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:09 PM
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my initial sexual adventurousness was within the confines of two separate long term relationships in my 20's. we tried all kinds of stuff, never involving another person though, i'm not emotionally evolved enough to share the man i love. i also made that choice to only have sex in relationships, not because i think i'm morally superior to people who have casual sex, not at all, but the way men i knew talked about the women they had casual sex with, and the way i saw some of my adorable, pretty, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:40 PM
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the men in the sewers... do it for their countrymen not themselves well, they actually do it because it's a job and they get paid which there's no shame in at all, but it's not some selfless act to be employed by the sanitation department
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:28 PM
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i just love it so much and i think she is 100% right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:23 PM
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fair enough. sorry, just a knee jerk reaction to that phrasing because i can't stand it when women are dehumanized in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:07 PM
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i'll concede that, i guess that could be one view point for some women. i've never heard a woman say that. and i've never felt myself, that my partner needs to be or seem "better" than me, he needs to be someone i respect and someone who i perceive as having qualities that are superior to other men i've met. but as we all know women aren't a monolith and i'm sure there are some ladies who think a man should be superior to her in some way, whatever superior means in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:04 PM
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pretty sure only like 2% of women identify as lesbians worldwide so as cinematic as a lesbian road warrior society sounds, the numbers just aren't there. also "when given opportunity and power advantage, women are more violent than men." welp, i'm not saying women aren't violent but men do murder men at way higher rates than women murder other women, where some of us could definitely have not only the opportunity but similar levels of strength and possibly even a physical advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:06 AM
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they're radical feminists. they say radical shit. gloria steinem isn't out calling for mass male genocide, ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:46 AM
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When left to their own devices by men, Women are more violent this paper specifically doesn't conclude that women are inherently more violent, but that a queen's propensity for war during this era (15th to 20th century of hereditary european monarchies) was institutional and not biological. the queen's marital status was the determining factor. unmarried queens were more likely to perceived by other nations as weaker than king led nations, so they'd be attacked and forced into conflict. this one…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:42 AM
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who is "you guys"? one women suggested this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:51 AM
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"it's easy to see how inappropriate touching can happen in that context" it is? not to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:45 AM
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i had zero idea of his financial situation when we met, except that he lived in a smallish house with 4 other roommates. one of his roommates was my work friend, that's how we met. he was/is an independent filmmaker. that is not lucrative unless you somehow hit it big. he is super intelligent, and so uniquely hilarious, i felt like a could fully be myself in every way with him which was not the case in my previous relationship. i was/am a reality show story producer making $2,000 a week. i make …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:21 AM
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sure, i mean. what would i know? i'm just a woman. who has fallen in love. it wasn't/isn't transactional. and i always made my own money so i could focus on a partner for who he is, not what he makes. i've never heard love described as rational. it makes falling in love sound sort of beige and bland. in my experience it's the opposite of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:07 PM
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no not better than them, better than other men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:58 PM
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sorry dawg but a woman who loves you as a person isn't going to pout about getting bigger better gifts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:55 PM
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number 1 is only true if she's interested in your money and not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:27 PM
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i actually think the root of the issue is this --- unless your close female friend is making it abundantly clear that she is sexually and romantically attracted to you, do NOT "confess". i know you're probably thinking "maybe if she just knew how i felt, she'd see me differently" no. 9.5 times out of 10, no. speaking from multiple lived experiences. "maybe she doesn't know how she feels and is open to it". no. she knows how she feels. "but isn't hiding your feelings a bad idea, shouldn't you be …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:35 PM
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just control and entitlement, huh? and those..aren't...wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:02 PM
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wowee, what's the business position? like to be their boss? i'd be great at that!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:28 PM
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i am? wow, that's odd of me considering i'm an adult and i've been ogled by men since i was eleven years old. you'd think i'd have more discernment and awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:24 PM
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kramer vs kramer, stepmom, past lives, before sunset, la la land, blue valentine, her, about time, jerry maguire, when harry met sally, the big sick, marriage story
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:38 AM
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but it's essentially the same idea as = high body count means she's worthless, low body count or no body count means she's better/special
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:30 AM
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leave her alone. she's probably just being nice. if she's not, well she's fresh out of high school and, age -wise you're 6 YEARS out of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:25 AM
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lol here are YOUR OWN WORDS: So why am I seriously dating a 19 year old? The answer is very simple: She chose me and I am not some 6'2" chiseled-jaw celebrity who can have a laundry list of requirements. you YOURSELF said that you're undesirable to most women. and you're right. an old man preying on a teenage girl is so clearly wrong there is literally no way to lose an argument about whether or not it's wrong. it is just so wrong. i'm far from the only person here who feels that way. i have no …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:17 AM
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🥱 very clear why you can only attract women with no life experience
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:36 AM
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and then get mad when those non-hoes don't want to f*ck them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:05 PM
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but if a woman wants nothing to do with a man because he's a virgin, is that wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:00 PM
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because women are human beings and not just "sl*tty" or "pure" sex entities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:59 PM
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...yeah. that was my point. it's not worth the effort on my part. as if any study would dissuade you from despising women and acting in your own best interest. "feminist nonsense" is what helps keep teenage girls away from old leches. just one of the reasons why it's so important.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:41 PM
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b*tch wh*re sl*t hag skank easy frigid bimbo piece of ass ballbuster bossy nag You throw like a girl Cry like a bitch She slept her way to the top Women are too emotional to make tough decisions Don’t be such a girl She’s not hot enough to act that way eta - are the downvoters denying that these are all terms and phrases men who hate and/or objectify women use, or...? like would you rather be referred to as a whore or as free food? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:21 PM
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pretty men have pretty privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:57 PM
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"A man’s desire doesn’t depend on what a woman does or says." "Male desire doesn’t depend on the female mind." this exactly why i hate being cold approached. it's basically the man being like, hi, i couldn't help but notice you are in possession of breasts and a vagina. any chance i could see them soonish? it's like, sir, you are a stranger and this is the produce aisle, i'm trying to find seedless grapes, if i don't ask you anything about your penis please keeps its desires to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:52 PM
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"To women, do these men essentially become invisible, despite their good intentions?" not invisible as another human being, but if he's not conveying any interest at all i'm going to assume he's not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:43 PM
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"if one guy treats a woman like a person who has thoughts and feelings, and the other guy treats her like a plastic sex doll he can put in the closet when he's done, why doesn't the woman choose sex doll guy?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:26 PM
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"it seems to me that, in many cases, women end up falling for the man who is consistently present in their lives—the one who checks in, spends time with them, listens, and gradually becomes part of their everyday routine. Is there any truth to that" this is called showing you care about someone, and both men and women generally respond positively to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:22 PM
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you can look up the studies yourself. the only proof i need is common decency. if you don't have that i can't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:18 PM
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no need to apologize, i'm not triggered. people throw feminists under the bus all the time on this sub, use them as a catch all for "women i don't like", and they try to use the same tired examples you did, just look through some old posts and you'll see. you took offense to me saying you're emotionally stunted. the opposite of being emotionally stunted is being emotionally mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:14 AM
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is this you displaying the emotional maturity you claim to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:46 AM
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you haven't proven that they aren't harmful, bud. i meant anyone who dates someone 35 years younger, but that certainly seems to include you. especially after that tantrum about feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:45 AM
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wow that really triggered you, huh? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:43 AM
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got it, you don't have an argument to support your position. 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:38 AM
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weird that he hasn't answered /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:01 AM
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jeff bezos wife is 56 years old, so not sure what you're talking about there. i have major problems with how madonna seems to target young male dancers. it's weird and wrong. First, feminists hate the idea of men pursuing their desires and getting what they want. lol. what? feminists want societal equality. why do you keep talking about feminists like they're the only ones who have problems with age gaps? This applies even at the level of ordinary people. For example, if a 35 year old single mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:59 AM
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teenagers are made legal consenting adults so they can consent to relationships with each other. not so their friend's grandpa can pursue them sexually. emotionally healthy mature people prefer a partner who is more of an equal. emotionally stunted people date people 35 years younger and then get defensive about how it's still "legal". if you had integrity you would not have engaged in this relationship, imo. if you feel good about your life choices, why are you so defensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:26 AM
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both men and woman are more vulnerable when they're younger simply because of lack of life experience. facing the challenges of entering the workforce are not the same as navigating a sexual relationship with someone who has had way more time on planet earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:26 PM
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filling a father figure role eta - go over to the age gap sub and there are plenty of young women being totally honest about trying to fill a father figure role. i didn't just make it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:25 PM
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as they are willing to hook up with a woman decently less attractive than themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:17 PM
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no it doesn't. some guys are chosen for it because the girl is horny and he's convenient. some guys are chosen for it because the woman is attracted enough in the moment but not so attractive that she cares if he judges her. but for women men need to be more attractive for casual. you guys repeat this over and over but it's just not universal and it doesn't really make sense when you scrutinize it. lots of men who are mid, and lower, have casual sex. but for some reason the men not having casual…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:13 PM
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legality is not an arbiter of morality. you are over half a century old. she is a teenager. you are old enough to be her grandfather. by virtue of this, there is a massive power differential between the two of you because you have well over twice the life experience she has. power differentials can be dangerous for the partner with less power. a nineteen year old is legally an adult, but is in a very tender, impressionable stage of life and should be treated with support by older adults, not dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:03 PM
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i've always felt like the much older person has a moral responsibility to protect the much younger person, even if that younger person is interested, by not indulging in a sexual relationship with them. i could go out and find a 19 year old guy to sleep with right now but i feel that would be deeply unethical. and i'm younger than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:59 PM
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absolutely not. what? when? who? bullsh*t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:54 PM
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women who don't know how to break cycles of abuse or have very little self worth might, not the most desirable women imo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:50 PM
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for sure good thing you won't get a chance to, huh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:29 AM
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i will quite literally lose sexual desire for a man if he is unkind. i go from seeing all his physically beautiful features to seeing all his physical flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:26 AM
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if you can't tell your girl that she's not the girl for you, sir
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:20 AM
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WOWWWWWWW, dude. remind me to never take one of your posts seriously again. also this genius had a pic of ariel winter in his first image. she's gen z, not even a millennial. everything about it is an absolute mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:10 AM
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""Men get called a great guy just for watching their own kids." Sure. Women get called great mothers for the exact same thing." no, women do not. what? anecdotal but, when i'm out with my kids with a fellow mom, people might say "oh they are so cute" or something, NEVER "wow you two are great moms for taking care of your children!" my husband and his buddy took our/his respective children out and told us they were told by two different older women that they were amazing fathers for being out and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 05:08 AM
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sure, bud. 👍🏻 and based on how you talk about women here, if you do get approached by women, you're only going to attract morons who can't tell when they're being condescended to. eta - i watched some of the video you provided. it's embarrassing. "these people are unaware that a dark priest class that holds occult knowledge about the human psyche is wreaking havoc on the human population who don't know a goddamn thing about it." these are the ramblings of a paranoid, deranged mind. why would any…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:32 AM
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please explain how it's dishonest and disturbing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:14 AM
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they didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:12 AM
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randomly selected orphan you willingly put your penis inside someone who can get pregnant. that's not random, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:45 AM
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"in having vapid and inane conversations with no real substance and have no interest in real-world issues or anything deep." newsflash - they weren't that interested in talking to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:41 AM
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it sounds like you just want this to be the case to punish men for sleeping with women they don't want to date i've actually never had casual sex because of how weird men are about it but there is a middle ground between casual sex with someone you view as an ugly disposable hole and sex with the intention of a relationship, and that, as far as i've observed, is casual sex where you don't think of the other person as a worthless uggo. you think of them as an attractive person you had a fun exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:36 AM
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"using the sex source" lol this might be the least arousing phrase i have ever read. i can't imagine why you're striking out so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:10 AM
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so nothing desperate in seeking sex with sexually attractive women. we're talking about hideous cave trolls not worth a LTR here, man. scraping the bottom of the barrel so OP can impress actually attractive women, who he considers human and not subhuman golems, by not mistaking their butthole for their vagina during sex or whatever. what isn't sexually arousing about that for the gross "uggos" he would deign to touch with his lil wienie?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:05 AM
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same with women, even though the guys here seem convinced that if they're chosen for casual sex it means they're handsome, sexual dynamos.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:56 AM
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"it's not hard to cite feminists who have had institutional clout saying hateful things about men" great! do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:43 AM
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"I believe that lowering your standards for casual fun helps remind men that sex/relationships aren't some unattainable goal...you are aiming for a woman that is worth it and not just taking any woman that is willing...men should sleep with some uggos" where do all of us lucky ladies sign up for this?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:41 AM
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empathy and intelligence aren't unsexy. it's something else about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:22 AM
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can you give one specific example of a "mainstream feminist"? like, a person's name?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:45 AM
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i've never had casual sex, but that makes zero sense. choosing someone to be your person generally means a hell of a lot more than choosing some guy who was available when you were horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:30 AM
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omg thank you. "squirting" is not always indicative of an orgasm. it can actually just be a weak pelvic floor, or women just peeing and calling it squirt like in most of the squirt porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:44 PM
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i enjoyed the emotional journey i went on reading this debate, as it became clear that OP meant orgasm and not ejaculation, and he was talking about women coming too quickly, and all the confusion that ensued from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:38 PM
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the original post actually said that she did. once she realized they had no future she broke up with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:33 PM
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right. she didn't end up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:30 PM
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you do know all the details of people's relationships? somehow? i didn't take your words out of context. do you know what context means? parts of this are legitimately funny. i'm like, i know smart, loved men, with dignity. and you're like, no men are all c*cked morons who can't choose a partner to save their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:47 AM
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most people are much more idealistic about sex and romance when they're younger. i'm sorry the realities of dating and attraction were so devastating to you, but that kind of disillusionment is super common. i was dreaming of finding my soulmate as a teen until i was informed by all of planet earth that young guys want to sleep with every girl they see, and to be super wary of their interest and intentions. it definitely dashed my fantasy of what i thought a relationship could be like. There are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:45 AM
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why the fuck would we go through all this buildup and then torture ourselves with never getting to touch and be sexual with each other?' you understand now though that it was only torture to you? if they wanted to sleep with you they would have. as i said in another comment, young women can have lots of flirty sexual friendships, they're not particularly special or rare. in fact, when you're a young woman most eligible guys will try to steer the conversation toward sex/dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:30 AM
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This is a cool experience I'm glad I got to have. i think the issue here might be that you are only focused on your own experience and (generally) people who love their partner also try to keep their partner's feelings and expectations in mind,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:12 AM
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"I had put in what felt like so much effort, and it was all for naught." as a former high school and college girl, i don't think your incredulousness was evil, just naive. at least in my experience, male/female friendships during that era of life, if you're both single, are often flirtier and closer than at any other time. so while you're methodically building interest and "putting in so much effort" they probably have a couple of other guy friends or potential love interests that they also have…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:59 AM
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cheap tactics? get a grip. lol "Most men have absolutely no dignity, know perfectly well their women don't love them, and only settled for them, and deep down have made peace with the idea that she's most likely cheating on him and they simply camouflage it with excuses like: "I'm not insecure, I trust my woman, that's why I let her travel alone" this is fear-based nonsense. has this dynamic happened in the history of the world? sure. is it the norm for the majority of relationships? the man is …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:31 AM
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for some reason a bunch of these guys think that a woman agreeing to be in a committed, exclusive relationship with a man is not as big of a compliment toward the man as him being used and discarded for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:45 PM
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"Women settle for money, status, fame, comfort, safety, control, and so on" money? status? fame? we're talking about the millions upon millions of average straight couples. "A relationship is not proof of love" sure, but it's not an indicator of a lack of love, like you're suggesting, either. "Men settle by agreeing to humiliating, and exploitative "relationships" where her money is her money, and his money is her money, where she wears the pants in the relationship and bosses him around, and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:30 PM
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she was being flirty and sexy, that doesn't mean sex is just a given.
/r/seduction20/07/26 06:24 AM
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her: (batting cage subtext) i'm interested and i like the flirting but let's do something fun, public, and not super sexual to get to know each other on a first date. you: come over to my home her: sigh. no thanks.
/r/seduction20/07/26 06:20 AM
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your argument is that, before women had modern day rights, they didn't all kill themselves, and that is proof... men are better than bears?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:07 AM
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i do think that women are most attracted to a man who loves himself and his life. if he seems desperate like he NEEDS her to complete his life, a lot of young women will get turned off. they want to be a part of the life of someone they respect (that doesn't mean he can never show emotion, just being super eager at the beginning doesn't work for everyone), as they are also building a life they love. when you see a man who loves himself, a lot of women will want to love him too. and honestly it w…
/r/seduction20/07/26 12:45 AM
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😎 whew okay fair enough. cherries?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:39 AM
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at least in the US ,she would have been a HIGH SCHOOL SOPHOMORE and he would be a grown man out of COLLEGE for at least two years. i'm glad she doesn't feel traumatized by it but a 25 year old man is out of college, in the work force, and should naturally be as far away from high school students as possible. a 16 year old is nowhere near that level of maturity. he for sure took advantage of her youth and inexperience. an adult man with a teenager is never about his love for her and always about …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:37 AM
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they have everything for young men to enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:30 AM
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would "me lord" work?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:29 AM
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i hope you're not insinuating that he would be dishonest about something /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:27 AM
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strawberries
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:26 AM
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"This is a Radical Idea to Women Here." no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 11:00 PM
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lolllll honestly, not only are they evil misogynistic losers but they are also total dorks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:25 PM
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i'm short and i have a pretty nice body, i'm not winning any contests or anything but it's still aesthetically pleasing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:23 PM
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i can't get over jennifer lopez being 56. she's some kind of ageless sorceress.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:19 PM
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walk outside and look at all the couples that are comparable in looks and income. on dating apps a small percentage of male profiles get a disproportionate amount at attention because women are pickier swipers and all they have to go on are very surface level attributes. there's way more nuance in actual dating and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:47 PM
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no, that's nonsensical twisted pretzel logic that isn't relevant to the thought experiment
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:13 PM
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i love my children very very much. i would never wish for a world without them in it. however, having them was a MASSIVE shift in my life in every way. we had to spend tens of thousands of dollars on IVF. the birth of my first was very traumatic. i had severe preeclampsia. massive blood loss. had to be put on pitocin, magnesium sulfate. had an emergency c-section. healing was a nightmare. my doctor instructed me to feed the baby every 1.5 hours 24 hours a day for the first week. so i got no slee…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:08 PM
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we don't literally prefer the bear jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:19 AM
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Most women in relationships are not attracted to their partners source? Women only pick the top 10-5-1% of men on dating apps dating apps are not representative of all dating. women are going to be pickier there because all they have to go on are some pics and a small bit of info.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:49 AM
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yes, as i said, men who didn't understand the sentiment either dismissed it or got offended. it wasn't a literal question about wildlife. it was a thought experiment about fear, and trust, and the unpredictability of an unknown person's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:36 AM
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yes you've made it very clear you're incapable of understanding any of this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:22 AM
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lol *pats head* sure, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:36 AM
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it's not about assuming every man would do that. that's totally illogical. why would you think that? it's just the idea that it happens often enough that women don't want to take the chance. it didn't set feminism back. lots of men understood the sentiment and moved on with their lives. the men who didn't understand it and took it personally were probably never empathetic toward women anyway. You literally make every man to be the villain and then wonder why they won't support your causes. lots …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:35 AM
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i'm a mom and am extremely aware of the prevalence of female middle school and high school teachers who prey on young boys. trust no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:26 AM
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That would literally change the whole world, because it would by default mean that most relationships are loveless it doesn't mean that women don't end up with men they're attracted to, just that we're not exactly getting whiplash from all the hotties we see out in the world ETA - just realized my wording was way off and the opposite of what i meant. fixed it. i think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:06 AM
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see the bear will just kill you, not make a concerted effort to take away our bodily autonomy and basic rights. do you get it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:51 AM
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That bear stuff single-handedly set feminism back a good 10 years if not more. how? it was a comment on sexual assault. i saw a clip where a group of men are asked if they'd rather be trapped in the woods with a bear or Diddy. and they finally got it. the fact that quite a few men took it personally and were incapable of seeing the point has nothing to do with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:48 AM
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feeling sad about getting cheated on or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 12:34 AM
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no you don't have to be done experimenting. you find someone compatible with your sexual tastes. don't settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:07 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:26 AM
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doesn't make any logical sense though since women have jobs and men have hands to clean
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:35 PM
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if you're talking about the body positivity movement that was about women feeling comfortable with who they are, not about forcing men to be attracted to every single body type. i mean, the media was insane to women, back in the late 90's early 2000's. famous women who gained ten pounds were on the covers of magazines being called oinkers. i don't think asking men (or women) to interrogate their beauty standards is a huge ask. for some reason a lot of men seem to think it means people are demand…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:06 PM
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let me make sure i'm understanding you, you think women are willfully participating in sex that does nothing for them in order to go complain about it? women would rather have good sex. but women will have mediocre to bad sex for a few reasons 1.) it's a new guy and they didn't know it would be bad 2.) in order to maintain a relationship and not hurt the man's ego 3. fear of what will happen if they don't have sex with someone demanding it, and more. bad to mediocre sex for a woman generally doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:53 PM
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exactly. so for women, no sex is better than the bad sex they're having. men seem to be the ones who think any sex is better than none.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:37 PM
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if someone can't find a compatible partner to share their life with that doesn't mean they're not sexually attracted to an entire gender
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:34 PM
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i mean that's 2 decades ago but okay "There was/is a whole cultural movement for several decades about how men have unreasonable expectations for female beauty" and this all kicked off in 2006? with one specific event or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:31 PM
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shortchanging? i seriously don't understand this line of thinking. it's like the "if she's not giving me her best" sentiment. you're talking like a woman is a quarterback who has to leave it all on the field even if she's transferred to a new city or something. humans grow and change. their tastes and appetites grow and change. most women are not going to stop doing something sexual that they enjoy just to spite their new partner. why would that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:58 PM
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they choose peace over a bad partner
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:44 PM
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bad sex is better than no sex is pretty much just a guy thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:43 PM
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lol that or female heterosexuality works differently than male heterosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:17 PM
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several decades?! i wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:05 PM
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because the majority of writers and directors are male and they can't fathom how an older woman could possibly be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:01 PM
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so money is masculine, and cleaning is feminine to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:43 PM
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"we expect sluts to put out' lol yeah, you hear that ladies! this guy means business! "we expect you to carry your basic feminine duty if we are to provide the masculine" meaning what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:59 PM
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most women have jobs too and still end up doing more housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:53 PM
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that's because when the draft was instituted, women were seen as inferior fighters. it wasn't about protecting us. eta - in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:40 PM
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women say that looks aren't the most important, or the only, thing that inspire sexual attraction, not that they don't matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:09 PM
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2.5 - the man is making masculine noises, grunting, moaning, heavy breathing, whispers something filthy in my ear 🤩 eta - women can totally fake any and all pleasure during sex. i do not endorse it but it is more than possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:32 AM
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i'm so grateful my mom told me, when i was young, that a man wanting to have sex with you means absolutely nothing about his feelings, regard, or even attraction to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:37 PM
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lol it's crazy. i also remember (when pregnant) buying a scented candle and the fragrance registered as SO intense i was like what kind of monster would create a candle this evil!?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:22 PM
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So much women use this excuse to justify not having sex with their beta-bux boyfriends on why they happily did anal and blowjobs with their previous bf's but not them. do they though? do they? i've never ever talked to my female friends about this. like, this being common behavior in women is not something that is known or discussed in women's conversations, like, ever. it seems like a very online male concern. "hey ladies, you know how you purposefully withhold fun sex from your boyfriend even …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:17 PM
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it's just not ever going to be this simplistic. you're talking about women's lives like they're programmed characters. plenty of women are down and dirty with their longterm boyfriends/husbands. saying you want to be the toxic ex? the one she regrets? the one who treated her badly? because you think her sexual boundaries will be easier to push? barf.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:26 PM
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"Except I and many men would want a Partner who'd do sex acts with me they don't usually like to please us or out of fear of losing us." wooooowwwwwwww. that is repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:08 PM
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my hormones went bonkers when i was pregnant and various smells made me physically ill. it's a thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:04 PM
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i get it. and obviously if a discerning woman who has waited for commitment in the past, has no interest in you because you haven't always waited for commitment, you'll support and understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:55 PM
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lol "most" women human beings are generally more experimental and wilder when they're young, it's not specifically a woman thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:42 PM
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right? my dad was liberal as hell and he used to rebuild old muscle cars as a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:15 PM
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I just implore women to accept the fact that what they SAY they want in a man, and what they DO want in a man are usually pretty different, and that smart men like myself are just getting tired of seeing that play out. every close friend i have is liberal and married to/dating a liberal man. some of those men are fit, some of those men are not, some of those men make lots of money, some don't. "But I've been rejected by almost every intelligent, liberal/leftist women I've ever approached, despit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:12 PM
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"An ex said that she hates giving head, though she has had great experiences and a great deal of fun giving head in the past she wouldn’t for me only vaginal or even anal sex. Her partner after us she had no problem giving head to isn’t that somewhat insulting? Or can anyone see why that could be interpreted as one?" i'm not saying there is at all, but did this make you wonder if there was something wrong/unappealing about your genitals? because that's where my mind would go (about myself) if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:01 PM
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seriously. the men on here, being convinced that they're the good guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:54 PM
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you weren't aware that different people have different sexual chemistries and compatibilities?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:27 PM
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what? do you want a woman to wait for commitment or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:24 PM
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wait, what? are you saying that, instead of just accepting someone you're dating making you feel less than, you could...not accept it and walk away?! what? you mean, he could decide by himself that he doesn't want to wait that long and date other women?! 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:22 PM
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"A real scenario is I had a partner that spent years being some dirty fuckers “living fuck doll for years” (her own words not mine) from the start till the end. But for me she wanted to impose a six month rule. And it gave me pause. Why make me wait? " she didn't explain her thinking behind you guys waiting? she said i was a fuck doll but not for you, and you didn't ask why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:14 PM
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need more context. happy tears? sad tears because she doesn't feel the same way about you? idk
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:59 PM
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find the phrase "let you hit" revolting but that's me. no, i know some men want to see a woman sleeping with them as some huge validation of his desirability etc but sometimes women just get horny and fuck whoever they deem "acceptable" enough for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:57 PM
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if it's coming from another straight woman she's just hyping her up. she's not actually viewing the other woman as a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:54 PM
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The divide here is not male/female its attractive/unattractive. it totally is. LOTS of conventionally attractive women are told to give less attractive men a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:18 PM
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"Its undeniable that Feminism has enabled the sex industry" it has? how so? "many of the political and cultural taboos of progressive society are completely allowed when it comes to the sex industry, whether its racism, incest, misogyny, 🍇," what does any of that have to do with feminism? "There are underage girls today literally seeing this as a viable "career" option, and you can thank feminism." yes, we all know the movement where feminists rioted in the streets to support *checks notes* a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 06:09 PM
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lolll omg yes, justin waller makes women as dry as the sahara
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:53 PM
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in the clip you posted she never says that she wouldn't do this for her husband. she says women should practice on a dildo or a banana before doing it on a man and mentions husbands in that sentiment. is there another clip where she actually says that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:46 PM
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All women must be ugly in media appealing to men. there's been a movement toward more normal looking women characters because of the overly sexualized way they were drawn, and depicted for, well, ever. you still have margot robbie playing harley quinn, zoe kravitz as catwoman, scarlett johansson as black widow, gal gadot as wonder woman., elizabeth olson as scarlet witch. not exactly a group of uggos. Men just glancing at a women in a gym or street is weird and evil. fun hyperbole. you mean men …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:37 PM
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women say that looks aren't the only thing, or not the most important thing. that's not the same thing as not caring at all about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:35 PM
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no. interesting that in your hypothetical example the woman is beautiful and the man isn't. You might be a hot slim blonde Stacy and you hit it off on the app with a random guy very curious to know if any men would use an app where they can't see the woman until they meet. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:32 PM
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The man is polite, strong, and aloof. The woman blushes, demonstrates emotional interest, and acts something out from instinct that is inherently seductive to the man. this sounds like how characters meet in some old movies you've seen. what is the real life basis for this? and you're blaming this situation no longer existing on... feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:52 AM
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Men are ostracized for stating a preference for any physical trait on a woman. by whom? certainly not by other men. i've had a lot of male friends over the various eras of my life and, in my experience, plenty of men's favorite topic of conversation with other men is which women are the hottest, and the specific physical traits that make her hot. edit-grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:21 AM
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i knew it was just a matter of time before a guy brought up being dragged for not wanting to date a fat woman. "everyone gets mad when i say i don't like fat women!!" actually everyone knows that most men don't like fat women. so when men announce it, everyone is like "this again? keep it to yourself". anyone, man or woman, who tells you to kill yourself for any reason, is a monster and not indicative of either gender as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:54 PM
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"he might be nice" is a pretty common thing women are told when they express not being attracted enough to a man to date him. because women are more likely to be attracted to someone as a sum of all their parts, and not just physically, people will use that and be like, 'hey don't be shallow, he might be nice!" that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:44 PM
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lol oh my god the idea of a man being told "hey give her a chance, she might be a great person", in the same way girls and women are about men, is just so funny because we all know men would scoff at the very idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:31 PM
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yep. "men are just more visual"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:18 PM
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andrew openly uses emotional and physical abuse, and coercion on vulnerable women so not sure those should be counted as "results".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:50 PM
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"try again" 🙄 this isn't my rule, dude. i'm telling you how tons of women feel about it. take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:38 PM
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in my experience, women don't usually break up with the man over it. they just lose attraction, want to sleep with him less, think of him as more dirty kid who can't take care of himself rather than the adult partner they hoped for. and then the man is sitting there in his own filth wondering why his girlfriend isn't sending any sexual energy his way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:36 PM
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people can lose the attraction they once had to someone. you're attracted to a man. then you see he uses a frisbee as a plate instead of turning on the dishwasher, and the attraction begins to dwindle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:31 PM
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it's because woman refers to a human and female generally refers to animals
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:53 PM
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that's interesting. i've never been on an app but isn't it possible that you just don't see anyone that strikes your fancy? like, can't you look on there and think, huh, no one is really intriguing me at the moment, maybe i'll check back in a month. rather than, i MUST pick the "best" option from what i'm seeing now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:49 PM
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most women hate being referred to as "females" fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:42 PM
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my son and daughter are both screeching with hysterical laughter while making a marble play set city right now. and generally they are both adorable, deranged, maniacs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:16 PM
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did they say in what sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:12 PM
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just in the initial dating phases right? because once you're actually in the relationship women tend to love romance and romantic gestures. i think this might be a symptom of women (generally speaking) having more options. being super romantic and fully focused on her can read as coming on too strong/love bombing/desperation/just trying to get laid, before you know the man better. men are not as used to being pursued/wooed so it would most likely feel more novel. i don't think that means men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:11 PM
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"Does it bother you when an "unselected man" insists that there's no such thing as good women, and that's why he's single?" no because we all know there are good women and that's absurd. the stuff on this sub that bothers me is more like "feminists don't want men to orgasm because of misandry" or some such nonsense. ah, so you inferred that these women are saying "there's no such thing as a good man" rather than "i'm done trying to find one"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:17 AM
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why would i think you already felt that way when you're complaining about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:06 AM
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why does a woman choosing to be single bother you? what do you care? eta - "some ladies i'll never meet or know want to avoid bad relationships and that makes me bitter as hell" 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:02 AM
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i'm not arguing anything, i was making a suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:57 PM
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no, insisting these women just can't find a male partner who wants them, and that's why they're single, is men protecting their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:54 PM
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sure. you could always just push back against misogynistic men because it's the right thing to do and not because there's some "incentive".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:48 PM
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The point is the fact that men that are attractive enough have no real reason to treat women well as long as women still date them and fuck them, and women who date and fuck misogynistic and abusive men are, in fact, at least some what complicit to this by means of not providing any negative incentive to these men to stop that behavior. you're right that's WAY different than "rewarding". 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:53 PM
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nope 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:08 PM
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you're saying that a woman in the midst of dating a misogynistic man, is fully aware that he is misogynistic, what that means and all that it entails, continues to date him, and calls upon "nicer" men to pushback against her own boyfriend's behavior? that doesn't follow any kind of logic. your initial post sounds like the usual "women reward bad men with dates and sex" gripe that pops up here all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:49 PM
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not in my life experience as a human woman, being friends with many other human women over the course of my life. sorry. lol. example?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:18 PM
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"Women want men to hold other men accountable for their misogynistic behavior towards women, but women continue to date men that are misogynists and abuse women." what if, the women who are trying to call out and pushback against misogynistic behavior, and the women who date abusive misogynists, aren't the same women? eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:06 PM
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example?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:04 PM
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what do you consider a romantic man? also eta - lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:55 PM
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women do try to help our female friends who date abusive scumbags and/or repeat those cycles of abuse, but you cannot make someone see something until they're ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:29 PM
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zendaya seems too self-possessed and intelligent to be the average man's celebrity crush. she also doesn't have any extra prominent sexual characteristics like huge breasts or a big butt, and she doesn't need them i think she's gorgeous, that tends to make the biggest impression on the straight male folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:21 PM
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you'd rather that little cashier play helen of troy huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:09 PM
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lupita nyong'o is sooooo beautiful! <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:17 PM
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it's subjective 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:07 PM
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you don't have to be woke and liberal to find black women with perfect bone structure attractive, babe
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 06:03 PM
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like a dog or a child, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:59 PM
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not to me! they're both gorgeous. the blond lady is cute as a button but nothing particularly special IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:57 PM
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they have convoluted nonsensical plots that spit in the face of much of the pre-existing cannon. terrible CG instead of puppetry. midochlorians?! the phantom menace is ostensibly for kids with super young anakin and the pod race but then there's a whole plot with political bureaucracy? siggghhh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:16 PM
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but you can call me and vent and i'll listen and support you, and i don't have any interest in astrology, my favorite activity is taking a gummy and watching a movie, so we can do that and i'll make sure i've got that snack you really like and we can talk about how our family dynamics affected our outlook on life, or we can just share inside jokes and shoot the sh*t. and we can order a ton of actually really good sushi for both of us for like $70, from a place i know. anyway, that's this lady's …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:46 PM
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love owen gray and small hands
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:28 PM
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already a big fan of dane jones and bellesa 👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:28 PM
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yup. my top 5 are empire, new hope, return of the jedi, the last jedi (yep!), rogue one
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:25 PM
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saying that the prequels are the best ones is deeply upsetting to me and i can't even...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:23 PM
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if you have a female friend and you confide in her that you are a virgin and then when you guys argue about something she says "well at least i'm not a virgin" or something similar, she either has the emotional depth of a 14 year old, or actually IS a 14 year old and the friendship should be over
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:30 AM
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plenty of men barely have those either
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:34 PM
2

no they don't and no they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:31 PM
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i never have and never would. i never even knew the status of my guy friends when i was younger and i didn't care. why would i?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:28 PM
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if she is a shallow, insensitive, vindictive asshole than yes she will bring up your sexual status during an argument. if she is a reasonably well adjusted, adult human she is not going to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:24 PM
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that sounds untrue and ridiculous. do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:20 PM
2

that's what toys are for
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:16 PM
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fuckboys aren't known for their honesty and integrity in dating. could it be they are often (not always) leading the women to believe it could evolve into something more?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:12 PM
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okay, i watched a good portion of the video and his personality comes across as pretty boring. his profile says he's an actor. a lot of women aren't going to like the instability of that. also on his profile it says that he just wants something short term. and it says that "we're the same type of weird if: you think empire strikes back is peak star wars". empire and a new hope are objectively (i'll fight you) the best star wars movies. so that's in no way "weird". the archetypes you described do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:10 PM
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that doesn't really matter to me though, i want to see the man's face, and his micro-expressions and hear his noises. i'm straight so the man does not have to be super handsome, just not gross to me, and i want to see his every move. i also have my favorites like robby apples and nathan bronson who are conventionally attractive. so they're my go-tos. eta - you'd be surprised how much they cut the guy's face out at the best moments and you just see his torso but see the full woman, it's a bummer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:19 PM
1

yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:13 PM
1

nothing to do with ethics, there just isn't as big of a market for you. but there are men who have gotten rich off of OF, just the majority of their patrons are gay men. top male OF creators if men were ethical they wouldn't show up by the thousands to participate in bonnie blue's videos. and who do you think the "poor trafficked women" are trafficked by?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:04 PM
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on one hand i hear you, being this straightforward leaves no room for gray area. and ultimately that can only be a good thing for consent, etc. but romantic feelings, especially in the getting-to-know-you phase, can develop and evolve. like, hypothetically, what if this woman did really like him based on the first date and she's thinking, i want to get to know him a little bit better on the second date, to make sure he is who he seems to be and if that goes well, it's on? and he's like just fyi,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:37 PM
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you're saying that when a man just wants sex from a woman and she says no, that was actually him rejecting her first? i think women understand that when a man just wants sex that means he's not serious about her. that's pretty widely known.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:56 AM
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thx for that. huh, could be wrong of course but this sounds, to me, like someone who is not very socially savvy. he is SO straight forward, with no self-consciousness at all about what he's saying, that he sounds like he's perhaps on the spectrum. this doesn't sounds to me like he didn't enjoy the first date necessarily, more like he has some kind of personal policy to not continue pursuing something unless he's sure there's sexual compatibility. that's a fair enough policy i guess but not every…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:02 AM
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making sure i understand your post. a guy left a voicemail letting a woman he went on a first date with that he isn't interested in her unless she wants to have sex. some people were dragging him for it? but you're saying it's essentially a good thing because he was upfront about his intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:37 PM
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yes i definitely have enjoyed the physical contact and sensation, if i hadn't i wouldn't have wanted to sleep with him at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:02 PM
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"Ah yes so society simultaneously hates women for wanting sex. While also encouraging women to... sexualize themselves. " yes! exactly. women aren't encouraged to have sex. women are encouraged to "keep their legs closed", because they think women are the "gatekeepers of sex" and have to keep everyone in line. society generally wants women to be sexually beautiful and sexy without actually being super sexual or promiscuous. sexually appealing but extremely discerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:38 PM
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huh, that's interesting. when i was with my first partner i faked it occasionally because i didn't yet know what i liked or what worked with a partner. and he didn't really know how to help me figure that out, which is okay we were both young. but i definitely wanted to have sex with him, it just didn't always lead a real orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:09 PM
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considering the fact that men would feel better if their girlfriends and wives told them how to pleasure them ,instead of assuming the man can read their minds and know exactly how to pleasure them. you'd be shocked at how defensive some men can get if you try to communicate that you like something different than what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:31 PM
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Why the hell would anyone rationally fake an orgasm and continue having pleasure-less sex with a partner and feel the guilt of lying to them? When they can tell their partner how to pleasure them? Again this bizarre mindset makes no sense. it's often more difficult for women to orgasm than men just based on how our anatomies are structured. i don't endorse faking orgasms. but generally the reason women fake orgasms is because whatever is going on is not quite working for her but she doesn't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:24 PM
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are you basically just asking if women get horny?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:46 PM
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because riley reid looks like the cute little teenage girl next door while doing bonkers sexual acts with gusto
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:41 PM
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The consequences of taking about my feelings are negative and not outweighted by the benefits. you don't talk to your partner of 10 years about your feelings? also this - He understands you don’t want it, but you should just do it. It’s a service to be provided. Correct wowee, i'm sure you're aware of how repulsive this will be to so many people, congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:23 AM
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this is nightmarish beyond belief my god this poor man sometimes it feels like the human race doesn't deserve to make it
/r/MensRights10/07/26 12:55 AM
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"In my experience men “behave” better and are more open to emotional connection when they are getting regular sex. They’re nicer, more pleasant to be around, more romantic… a lack of sex will cause friction in a relationship for most men. " but doesn't that kind of point to men caring more about sex than emotional connection? as long as sex is frequent, they are kinder and more open to emotional connection. if it's not they will withdraw from it and create friction until the frequency is restore…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:48 AM
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Men would rather sexually coerce (rape) their wives than leave them That's a hell of an accusation which sounds like it has no basis in reality. i know that sounds really incendiary but amidst all the totally valid/not problematic posts over on r/DeadBedrooms at least once a week a guy posts about having his wife perform duty sex to placate him. so they literally do that instead of leaving. it's unsettling. edit - grammar, formatting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:17 AM
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"I want her to do the work to figure out what specifically it is about me that's hanging her up about having sex with me... and maybe take a few steps to try and get herself back to whatever version of herself wanted me in the first place" that's so interesting that the thought process would be, "she needs to figure out what's wrong with her" rather than "i wonder if there's anything wrong with me". as someone who struggles with guilt and self recrimination, this mindset is just, well, mind-bogg…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:59 PM
1

oh dear god why am i replying? lord help me. you said no one is shaming women for whom it's a last resort, "they" are talking about women who make millions. and i said but why shame the women who make millions? i used the term "dislike" to describe your attitude toward rich OF creators, i guess i should have used the term disapprove of. but you took issue with me saying you personally don't approve? so the problem is that i referred to you? i'll try again "so there are men who disapprove of OF c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:22 PM
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i don't know if i've ever been this baffled by a reddit conversation. i'm starting to think i literally just don't understand your syntax and so we're talking right past each other. i think it's time to call it! ✌🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:38 PM
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i never said that men shame women for whom it is a last resort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:28 PM
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lol deep wells of empathy seem much more likely to you than procreation? seems clear, based on current human behavior, that it's a mixture of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:15 PM
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the lack of physical safety concerns seems so freeing being encouraged to try and get/have sex rather than being judged about how when where who and why you chose to have sex with someone never being expected to wax your privates
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:05 PM
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"Because they take advantage of sex-starved men and are a clear example of how supposedly important jobs aren't that important (since those people aren't paid as much),"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:39 PM
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jeez, who knows, maybe women would have exercised enough caution to design it with enough lifeboats for everyone in the first place men like to have sex with women and make babies with women = big incentive to keep women alive and healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:27 PM
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not being sexually attracted to someone doesn't mean you're prejudiced against them it just means you're not attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:20 PM
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"Any man, especially a man who has wealth whenever he says he wants a prenup to protect his pre martial assets, to get protection from paternity fraud or whatever in case the marriage fails is met with "you dont trust me", "so, you think the marriage is gonna fail" or "you planning on leaving me" or something similar. " no they aren't, lots of women sign prenups with no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:08 PM
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yep, you're right about the titanic ratios of survival and wrong about everything else. also, random thought but, men designed, built and navigated the titanic...did they do a good job protecting everyone or..? you're assuming A LOT if you think empathy was the only reason for these amorphous "historical" men to keep the women in their groups alive and healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:31 PM
1

not being flattered by every person who has sexual interest in you, does not mean you don't like sex at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:35 PM
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"your gender needs emotional conditioning and cuddling before you brains consider using logic." this is factually incorrect and loaded with disdain which is an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:31 PM
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there is no consensus in psychology that either gender operates "more emotionally" or "more logically/rationally"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:27 PM
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exactly, and he was on there complaining as if she's his only outlet for sex so poor him, but it's like, uhhhh, sir? we can literally see all your actual outlets listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:17 PM
2

here are two examples of movies about threesomes from the 90's! how'd i do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:15 PM
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the male only draft was created because women were seen as less capable fighters not because men decided to keep us safe "Throughout the vast majority of history, physical strength was by far the biggest key to survival." no, not for human beings. it's important but intelligence, knowledge, working in cooperation with other humans, were just as important to humanity's survival. "Thus, it became vital to share resources with women" in hunter gatherer societies women and men both procured resource…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:58 PM
2

one guy who posted the other day had a post history full of meet ups with escorts in his town.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:02 PM
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women are never held accountable for cheating now, but they were in the 1950s? what are we even talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:18 PM
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swinging and sex clubs are real ofc but a lot of the insane zeal that you see from women in porn is because they are being paid and making it look like they love every angle, and every different guy they work with etc, is part of their literal job. so, sure, they're are women in this world who are voyeurs, who are into swinging, etc but your average women, with a job, paying bills, being an adult is not preoccupied at her desk planning her next threesome or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:12 PM
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be funny. it's a superpower.
/r/seduction05/07/26 11:35 PM
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https://decider.com/2018/05/01/threesomes-were-the-best-mid-90s-movie-trend/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:44 PM
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so you're really asking how promiscuous the women here are and where you can find a woman who isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:31 PM
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you will never see a man on this sub pearl-clutch harder than when he is asked to deign to even think about overweight women's existence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:02 PM
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what do the 1950s have to do with accountability? this is just nonsensical snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:21 PM
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"And I know if I wasn't giving a bit of a pass on because of them being female, those relationships would probably end, and end with some kind of upset emotional outburst in my direction." what kind of behavior are we talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:14 PM
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because ugliness is subjective and not relevant to the point i was making
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:29 PM
1

that logic doesn't track because the vast majority of sexual violence against women is at the hands of men, not other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:21 PM
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what? of course women can be perpetrators of sexual violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:44 PM
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"nobody ever talks about this because it makes women look bad" i think you'll find that a woman having to limit her life in these ways, in order to avoid sexual violence at the hands of a man, actually makes men look pretty bad
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:54 AM
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yes you've somehow been privy to more conversations between women about men than i - a woman - have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:43 AM
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sure
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:29 AM
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"It’s sad that someone would take those experiences and let it fester to the point that they have a seething hatred and inherently pessimistic view of 50% of the world’s population." that would be sad but it didn't make me hate all men, it just taught me to be wary.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:27 AM
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"Most i can see woman are at average more greater bums as men, have less interesting hobbys, nag more and have less life goals." this makes me laugh so hard. okay, lol, so you are so boring that you only know boring women? but that is somehow the problem of all women? yeesh dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:13 AM
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i'm so with you. it seems like some of these men, on the sub, cannot conceive of the empty, scary, loneliness you can feel as a young women when you realize you are a commodity in the same way a new car is a commodity. you know that you are a full person with thoughts, dreams, desires etc. these guys see you as a fleshlight. men with no empathy hear that and think "gee whiz i'd love to just be a human dildo!" sure you would, for women. if things got weird you could physically fight your way out …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:34 AM
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lol this is the weirdest conversation ever. so, just to clarify, you don't like female OF creators because they are "taking advantage of sex starved men"? is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:22 AM
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i feel extremely confident saying that the majority of young women are not sexually interested in much older men. not wanting an old man's penis in your vagina when you're 21 years old doesn't make you ageist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:54 AM
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if you didn't want to have sex with a haggard old lady does that mean you don't like sex at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:48 AM
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i haven't experienced that but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:47 AM
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i called them bizarre interactions for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:38 PM
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"it's also a small price to pay for the perks of being a woman" according to you. not according to my lived experience. i've been followed around grocery stores, target, around a parking deck, had a man i considered an uncle type figure ask me on a date, was insanely sexually harassed by the owners at a company where i worked (and i was not the only one). plenty of older men purposefully try to intimidate younger women to feel a sense of power. it's confusing and upsetting when you're just a you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:35 PM
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i do hear you. and i also never get pissed off that a reasonably polite and well intentioned man of any age is attracted to me and expressing it. but i was remembering what it was like to be a very young woman and having men old enough to be my grandpa saying wildly inappropriate things. being pushy, sometimes scary, and there are men who will absolutely be way more out of pocket when you're in your teens and early 20's. it's enough to make you a bit angry about the whole situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:04 PM
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these men don't just "pursue" there were legitimately inappropriate, upsetting things they said and did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:47 PM
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"power and opportunity and choice you get" "and being able to sit back and simply pick and choose" this is your fantasy version of what it's like to be a young women. it's not. here's an example from when i was 20 years old - a married man of at least 50 came into the place i was working, i had to be polite because it was my job, but he started telling me he had a son my age, etc, then - out of nowhere - he told me the uniform i had to wear was a real shame because you couldn't see my body shape…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:43 PM
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generally i'm wary of age gap relationships but i've noticed your comments a few times and it seems like you and your GF have a great connection and love each other. that's wonderful, congratulations. (i am being totally genuine and not snarky at all, hard to convey that online sometimes)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:44 AM
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no because they sleep in separate rooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:31 AM
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this is such a sad-sack pitiful statement. "sorry you've noticed something older men do that's insanely delusional, hopefully you'll find the peace you need to accept that men good and women bad, sad young lady who's tired of old men making their libidos her problem 🙏🏻." "One day I will be an old man and my wife will still love me and find me attractive." this is about old men who think really young women think they're physically hot. what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:30 AM
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🙄 okay
/r/MensRights03/07/26 03:24 AM
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a young woman is allowed to be fed up with old men thinking they have a shot with her if she wants to and that doesn't make her "bitter". my god you have NO CLUE what it's like to be an attractive young woman and all the insanely delusional dick being thrown at you. when i was a younger women my friends and i would swap stories about all the bizarre interactions we had with older men and how annoying it was to have someone that your own mother wouldn't even see as a desirable option try to hit o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:23 AM
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men wrote the articles you all are taking issue with, it's another man calling men misogynists for not seeing supergirl. a woman did not write the articles being referenced. and yet you are all piling on women and female feminists as driving this narrative. but it's actually men pointing the finger at other men.
/r/MensRights03/07/26 03:00 AM
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so your opinion, and what you think is "right", is that it's wrong to support women who are sex workers if they make a lot of money. only women who are being exploited, because they have no other choice than to sell their bodies, are morally acceptable sex workers? and in every case the men are not to blame. this is emotional thinking, not logical thinking, that seeks to blame the woman no matter what. you are not correct. nothing you've said has been even remotely close to "correct". almost the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:57 AM
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you being mad at women for something men wrote
/r/MensRights03/07/26 01:53 AM
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haha, my bad. thank you. edited it to be BC.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:27 PM
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your scolding tone is very funny. since you still haven't provided one single woman in the media whose coverage on supergirl you're annoyed with, i'll take that as an admission that there isn't one
/r/MensRights02/07/26 03:26 PM
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i didn't say they don't count i asked you all to explain why you're mad at women for something a man wrote there's no logical reasoning but i wasn't expecting any, just thought i'd try
/r/MensRights02/07/26 03:16 PM
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I'M trying to make the facts fit MY existing bias? but you're not doing that right? 😏
/r/MensRights02/07/26 03:16 PM
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🙂
/r/MensRights02/07/26 03:10 PM
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literally what? you're mad at women for a fire that male reporters are stoking. it makes no sense.
/r/MensRights02/07/26 02:04 AM
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this is the title of this post "If you have to use Money or Status to attract a Women she just doesnt like you that much"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:31 AM
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lol i surely do. OPs whole point is that if a woman truly desires you PHYSICALLY, your salary doesn't matter. and you linked a study about how more money doesn't make you physically more desirable. you might be perceived as a more "attractive" life partner but not actually more attractive if she just saw you walking down the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:28 AM
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well both articles were written by men. so take it up with your fellow man? like, literally what women are you mad at about this? i just want the logical answer a naturally logical mind would provide. ETA - getting downvoted without one single rebuttal lol
/r/MensRights02/07/26 01:11 AM
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but isn't it possible something was already "broken" (don't like that term because hey consenting adults is all good) and that is what led to a huge amount of casual sex? not that they started from the same emotional base as someone who waits for marriage and then somehow went haywire, slept with a bunch of people and only then, are they less inclined to be committed to one person? it doesn't seem to follow logically for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:05 AM
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i read the study and i feel like it actually lends credence to OPs point. women had physical attributes they found attractive "Greater height, lower body adiposity and greater shoulder-to-waist ratio (SWR) or chest-to-waist ratio (CWR), indicating optimal levels of upper body muscularity are consistently rated by females as more physically attractive " -- that were consistent. now, once you attach the salary of the men, if they make more money, they are considered more attractive partners. but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:00 AM
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but not just for women obv
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:33 AM
3

i hear you but i feel like we've got a chicken before the egg type scenario here. are the people on this earth with really high body counts already predisposed in some way to not wanting a committed relationship? or did the high BC somehow change them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:31 AM
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got it, thanks. i mean, i give zero credibility to the new york times or to fox but that's me
/r/MensRights02/07/26 12:24 AM
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"When women put the onus of their “flops” on men, they are saying they can’t be successful without men’s support." did you see a specific article or something where a female reporter was blaming men? men are still, if not by all that much, the majority gender who shows up for super hero movies. maybe that's why men not seeing it gets brought into the conversation? eta - as a super hero movie fan myself i just don't think moviegoing people have ever cared that much about supergirl it's just not t…
/r/MensRights02/07/26 12:15 AM
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i've also seen "future difficulty pair bonding" used as a way to shame women who are into casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:04 PM
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how is he the problem? he's not the problem. she's clearly the problem and a murderer. again what does that have to do with feminism? because feminists don't think people should be raped? people shouldn't be raped.
/r/MensRights01/07/26 05:58 PM
1

what does feminism have to do with this psycho killing her boyfriend?
/r/MensRights01/07/26 05:14 PM
1

but, isn't the person calling him gay a dude?
/r/MensRights01/07/26 05:13 PM
3

"A 120k bridal gift for the pregnancy itself," what's this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:12 PM
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the average woman does not believe every man is a rapist otherwise society would cease to function i'm talking about women actually feeling unsafe. plenty of women do, from their own life experiences. what you seem to be talking about is someone vindictive going after an innocent person for spite. and that is not gendered that is very human unfortunately. i can remember growing hearing about how important it was as a girl not to be too sexual otherwise your reputation would be ruined and no one …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:09 PM
1

"it works the same way for most people" no it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:58 PM
1

why help someone when you can be one of the people exploiting them? great life philosophy. /s do you try to end every discussion by asking the person to reassure you that you were right? because, no, you're not right. i don't agree with anything you've said and your view of sex work is extremely juvenile.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:56 PM
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i wasn't serious, hon. just a bit of an uno reverse for all the "women should choose better men" rhetoric that goes on here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:30 AM
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what are we even talking about, man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:27 AM
3

choose better?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:45 PM
1

the man vs bear thing was about highlighting sexual assault, and not to be taken as literally as so many men seem to have done. the idea being, there are things worse than death, and a bear will "just" kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:19 PM
0

clarifying, how specifically have women weaponized feeling unsafe with men? curious for an example of how it's "actively used against men".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 08:15 PM
2

got it. seems more like you're describing mutual sexual attraction and being sexually desired not being treated as less than human.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:23 PM
1

what rules? there is no set of rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:09 PM
4

that i try to make friendship about my libido?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:58 AM
3

totally but you were implying that these women dress this way because they care about men and their dongs. but i think you and i just agreed that is just wishful projection on the men's part, because these women could not care less and dress for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:43 AM
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'that got women creaming" i just can't tell you how much i dislike this kind of explicit phrasing that is so transparently meant to demean women and our desires. ETA - "He's too pussy to ask out Nikki, let alone full on rape her." yes, it's boldness of spirit that cements a man as a rapist after all, amitire gentlemen?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:36 AM
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it's the majority of guys so...everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:29 AM
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i guess, if it doesn't even occur to the "good guy" that the "bad guy" doesn't know or care about his wiener and what happens with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:27 AM
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i know, right? i guess tell your fellow man to appreciate the women in his life who offer friendship instead of trying to make it about his d*ck?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:22 AM
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you can just give these desperate women money without her having to handle your dick in any way. that hadn't occurred to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:19 AM
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"Women know this and know this power and still do the hitting every day everywhere." interesting way to acknowledge that the average man's sexual interest is so irrelevant to their day to day lives that women will show some skin without a second thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:32 PM
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so you're not talking about any specific examples you've seen? women's main source of power is their looks --- sure, to horny straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:26 PM
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okay so just double checking, if someone you are not attracted to, say a man maybe? i don't know your sexuality. let's say a man you find repugnant, sees you as a disposable hole, a really cute, adorable, arousing disposable hole for his sexual gratification, and then to obviously be tossed aside when you're hole is no longer interesting enough, you would be....flattered?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:19 PM
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"Their looks are often a major source of power, and many invest huge amounts of money, time, makeup, surgery, clothes, filters, gym routines, and social media effort into maximizing that power. Then they act confused when men notice the very thing being constantly displayed and monetized." who? when? where? i'm sure you have real world examples so what are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:10 PM
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when i was a younger woman i would support, listen to, and care about my male friends with the same regard as my female friends. there ended up just being too many instances where they thought that i was in love with them, or flirting with them, or they got romantically attached in some way. after my friend max tried to massage me sensually and i asked him if we needed to have a talk about friendship boundaries and he flipped out, accused me of leading him on and then stood outside my building s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:51 PM
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"If anything, men have a moral duty to pay for these services." wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 09:37 PM
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there is no set rule book for all women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:14 PM
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if you think a basic understanding of social environments vs the grocery store equals magical mind reading i don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:24 PM
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not sure i understand your wording here you mean any woman or female character who male players find hot is insulted or attacked?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:26 PM
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this is because the amount of stories, media etc with a male protagonist who has agency and is a full human being, handsome or not, is WAY higher than for female protagonists. so in this regard, for men, there just isn't as much to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:24 PM
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yes, there are several pretty serious challenges that come with the idea that you will be much older than your future partner
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:21 PM
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well thank goodness men NEVER complain about the unrealistic depictions of male bodies in media...?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:29 AM
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so, women try to explain socializing to men who do not seem to understand it, and when those men are like, "i don't get it i guess sex workers are the best option" and women are like good grief 🤦🏻‍♀️...those women are lacking in empathy? do the men who frequent sex workers have any empathy for those women and their struggles or...are they just there to have an orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:24 AM
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"There are some amazing looking sex workers who love sex" okay, great but you do understand that it's just their job right? their job (generally, not talking about the ones who get to choose their own clientele) is to make people who they aren't attracted to feel like they are 1.) attractive and 2.) good at sex -- so they'll keep coming back. i could be wrong but it kind of seems like you think there are gorgeous, horny, SW women who want to eff all the men they're effing, and would even if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:41 AM
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she just fully explained that the best place to approach is in a setting meant for socializing. not when someone is just going about their day. and you still ask "how would someone know that?" come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:56 PM
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i think this was more about making sure women aren't depicted as disposable sex objects, for the sake of women and girls in general, and not about being spiteful toward men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:48 PM
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people in general have a more critical lens aimed toward men who buy sex because of the (super super long) history of women being exploited, trafficked, and abused in this line of work. of course boys and men can be exploited, trafficked, and abused which is horrific. just, the majority of people who traffic others, are male. and the majority of the people they traffic are female. if there was some kind of guarantee that the women involved are fully consenting adults who want to participate in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:35 PM
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according to this, it's actually slowly declining Share of U.S. adults living without a romantic partner has ticked down in recent years lol i got downvoted for this, which means the truth hurts? idk i didn't do the study
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:25 PM
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unfortunately life is full of gray area and there is no fool proof way to know. a woman can't be sure if the man approaching her is a threat or not. a man can't be sure a woman wants to be approached. we all have to go on context clues, behavior, setting, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:18 PM
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yeah. lots of women just do not like to be approached by strangers no matter the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:40 PM
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you got banned from a bar for speaking to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:39 PM
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this article is 12 years old
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:29 PM
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except that you still have to convince a young woman of viable fertility to have children with you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:03 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:59 PM
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not lesbians! hehe jk that's a stereotype. i mean, sure, but not because women can't do it, it's just gendered stuff, right? generally older generations teach the girls how to cook and sew, boys are taught car stuff, or home repair stuff. just anecdotal but my dad was super handy with cars, woodworking, home repairs, even gardening. my mom was more about interior design, etc. anyway he taught her all those things and now (he passed years ago) she comes over and does home repairs for me and my hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:14 AM
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"my girlfriend for example who really hates working, can’t do basic home maintenance, seems to constantly be involved in drama and takes an hour doing her make up, etc. " lol okay but you know that's not how all women live their lives right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:25 PM
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the majority of boys raised by single mothers don't become violent people. there are girls also raised by poor single mothers and they commit a fraction of the violence their male peers do. the biggest predictors of violent criminality are poverty and the various instabilities that come with that. mothers are more often the only parent who stays to actually raise the kids in those conditions, and so they get the blame. (lemme guess they should have chosen better) anyway, mass shootings are major…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:13 PM
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you tried to posit that the women who raised the men who commit atrocities are to blame for the way the men turned out. but that's totally illogical because those people raised the women - who aren't committing atrocities - as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:00 PM
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except that girls are also raised by those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:43 PM
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"So whats the issue with that? Im a big fan of andrew." ah, well i'm not a fan of anyone who thinks women shouldn't vote. he's also an insufferable, condescending prick but that's just my opinion of his personality. rachel wrote a book arguing feminism sprung from witchcraft and demon worship, so she's straight up bonkers. if you really need to believe that the whatever podcast is a valuable piece of media go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:12 PM
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where is the moral line for all the men paying for these services? since they always have the choice to just not go to a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:05 PM
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What is the point of citing that point if you're not trying to use it as an example of "how men are". just agreeing i've seen men saying what the other poster described and that her being aware men like that exist isn't misandry. just head on over to the sub and you'll find examples. i didn't say every man feels that way, i backed her up that i've witnessed men who do. i mean this "You're living in an unrealistic bubble and spreading misandry." because i've seen examples on a sub? i'm living in …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:23 AM
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ah, i didn't write that. i just wrote that i've seen examples of that on another sub. so, not generalizing an anecdotal story into a characterization of an entire class of people. just backing up that i've seen some examples. 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:02 AM
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"Nobody is shaming women for whom it's the last resort." got it, got it. so if a woman has no other choice than to "take advantage of sex starved men" or to literally starve herself, you're fine with that? but if a female sex worker starts to make a lot of money, now it's a problem? so, sex workers are only acceptable if they're being exploited to avoid poverty? not if they have money and agency?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:52 AM
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"The host has a stance but thats about it. They invite pretty much everyone." i'm sorry, no. i've watched a great deal of it as well. the one-on-one debates are okay sometimes, like when they let notsoerudite on, but they platform people like andrew and rachel wilson, michael knowles, charlie kirk and candace owens and especially in the earlier days they cast young, relatively uneducated women that they knew they could easily dunk on for channel views. their whole angle is making women (especial…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:04 AM
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the whatever podcast is easily one of the most biased podcasts out there. they have a very specific narrative they're pushing and they select the women they invite accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:23 PM
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"They do not just want to feel okay in their own skin. They want the pretty privilege experience and they are angry they do not have access to it." do you have any examples of this? like from specific creators or something? could just be my algorithm but i've seen overweight women talk about wanting to be treated as human, and not invisible, that kind of thing, as you mentioned. but not that they're expecting a billionaire playboy to buy them the hope diamond or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:17 PM
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there weren't national polls at the time, so there's no way to know definitively. but like most big movements, support was minimal at first and grew over time with both men and women. there are still women who vote against what i consider their own best interests now. doesn't change the fact that men and women should have always had the same societal and legal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:02 PM
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not to be pedantic, but half of all the white women who voted, voted for him. not half the white women in the country. still not good, but...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:32 PM
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right? he got to search through the raw footage? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:18 PM
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i am aware that there were women who opposed suffrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:55 PM
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women always should have had the same legal and societal rights as men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:32 PM
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welp, it's actually more like men shouldn't have denied women basic human rights in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:20 PM
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i see, and OP writing this - People (especially women) will typically do or allow things that they wish were not happening, purely to make their partner happy. Across most contexts. Sexual, emotional... is misandry too, or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:00 AM
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it's getting there if you make that desire known while knowing they don't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:52 AM
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just go over to r/retroactivejealousy and you'll see all the men who think the fact that their female partner was traumatized by a sex act and doesn't want to do it anymore, has nothing to do with her personal autonomy and preferences, and everything to do with her not "loving" him enough to exploit herself the way she did with "him".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:51 AM
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any ideas as to why women would be afraid of confronting a man or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:48 AM
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maybe from your point of view. but if men just magically refused to do it, in the way you're describing women magically not expecting it, that would work too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 09:49 PM
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none of the feminist creators i follow are focused on dating, it's generally much bigger issues like bodily autonomy, pushing back against rape culture, how to identify emotionally abusive behavior, postpartum mental health. not who's picking up the bill for a calamari appetizer...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:26 PM
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okay, i'm not sure how "if this large scale thing happened things would be better" is any kind of solution but i don't disagree that changing expectations on both sides could make this work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:11 PM
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i've noticed that men will often talk about how "crazy and toxic" a woman was, but then qualify staying with her by saying "but the sex was amazing." with very little digging, it's pretty easy, when they provide further details, to glean that the woman in question had BPD or a major mental illness. but because the idea of "crazy women are great in bed" they don't seem to know or care they are dealing with someone with major issues that they should be sensitive to, rather than going along with wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:47 AM
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"As I already said and actually correct about" lol, okay. "men aren't the ones who can change the expectation by themselves" this goes for literally any and all cis/straight gender norms. i'm not saying this expectation won't continue to dissipate as time goes on but, like, if both men and women stopped judging women for casual sex, more men would have access to it, if both men and women agreed women should also propose then men wouldn't be the gatekeepers of marriage, if both men and women agre…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:33 PM
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the women in this example have very clear ideas/opinions on how they want to be dated. why wouldn't a man have similar preferences/standards of his own? "Likes, dislikes, or what I'm comfortable with won't mean much if the person I'm talking to isn't on the same wavelength as me" right, so you're not on the same wavelength. that's okay. that doesn't mean it's time to change things about yourself to win them over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:25 PM
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which feminists? where? who are you referring to? it often seems like "feminist" is a catch all for "women saying things i don't like" on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:53 PM
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he would be doing what he felt comfortable with rather than constantly changing based on what he thinks women want from him edit - grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:04 PM
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that's largely a myth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:37 PM
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as i said and already explained, women aren't the only ones perpetuating this. and there are men who are more than happy to pay and don't complain about it and, in fact, enjoy having the "power" of being the one paying and therefore having a bit more dominance in the dynamic. i'm not saying that's "good", it's just true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:47 PM
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haven't seen it yet but i love jodie comer so i'm excited!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:58 PM
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but not every man with looks and charisma is gonna do that...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:57 PM
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just taking a look at the first one - a woman making excuses for cheating on her boyfriend is just a bad person. men also make excuses for cheating. this is not an 'en masse" thing where women are just let off the hook because they said "oops, my bad". i've seen women ostracized from friend groups for cheating. that's being held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:54 PM
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i didn't...that's what u/Designer-Pen-7332 said and what i was responding to 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:22 AM
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*i'd like to mention that i disagree being a nice, kind, generous male feminist doesn't *ever* get attraction. it definitely does. doesn't mean it will work for every man with every women in every scenario* ---- a man asks "what are women looking for in a man?" a woman says some version of "be a nice, kind, generous male feminist" to make sure he understands the baseline requirements a lot of women have. if the man says "i'm already those things, what else?" i'm sure the woman would expand on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:15 PM
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except that the men in the scenario are complaining about having to spend all their own money on dates
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:56 PM
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that's a common human trait and not specific to women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:07 PM
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that who already knows it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:00 PM
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i'm sorry to hear you're having so much trouble with dating, i know it's hard, especially when your personality isn't naturally outgoing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:12 PM
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people don't like spending their own money if they don't have to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:08 PM
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you mean if men ask how to get women, why is this the response some women give? because these are the most baseline traits that some (not all) women require to even begin to be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:05 PM
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what examples of women showing no empathy for men do you have besides your sister? ETA - "This leads to a mother with great sympathy for her sons often more than her daughters." uhhhhhhhh. what? when? where? who? you mean creepy "boy moms"? they're weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:49 PM
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i can and have gone 50/50 i wanted to see paul mccartney in concert at the hollywood bowl so i bought box seat tickets, food, the works, and took my (male) date with no expectation for him to pay for anything my point was, yeah, it would be more equal if both sexes were expected to pay. but women are far from the only people perpetuating this. if you won't do it, there are other men waiting in the wings to do it with no problem, because they know it gives them the upper hand over men who complai…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:42 PM
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"Being nice, kind , generous, male feminist doesn't help in getting attraction" you should want to be those things because they're indicative of a good human being. not because you think it's going to get you access to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:32 PM
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which feminists? where? what generation? what feminist creators are you talking about? which ones are being "snobbish"? a superiority complex means you actually think you're less-than and inadequate and overcompensate. is that what you meant? because it doesn't sound like it. "All the misandristic and man hating rhetoric has consumed most of the current feminist trends." can you please give a specific example? "The hatred can potentially undermine the entire cause of it." this is far from a new …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:28 PM
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i mean...tell this to all the men who have no problem paying for dates. women aren't the only ones perpetuating this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:23 PM
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"There is almost no women, that cant get sex or relationships, or dates." "men pay because if they don't, another man will." you answered your own question. women are much more in demand than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:12 PM
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more upper body strength?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:58 PM
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yes, a lot of adult men want to date teenagers because they're more easily moldable to other people's desires, without the life experience to have strong personal boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:31 PM
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yeah, i'm not sure what you were trying to tell me. that men will compromise their values for a hot woman? i think we're all well aware of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:15 PM
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it was just a hypothetical example illustrating that feeling personally wronged because someone you deem unworthy (even if you're right) has a partner and you don't, is illogical.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:42 PM
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"The truth is, women from third world countries tend to act more like the more beautiful gender. It's not just WITH western men, it's in general. It's like... they see themselves a bit more like how a regular female mammal would if it suddenly gained human-level intelligence." this description made me feel weird. also, what you're describing - women who see themselves as the ones who need to be won over, etc - do they not seem as entitled as western women because they expect less money and resou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:18 PM
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i can't imagine why anyone looking out for their own personal safety would offend anyone else. bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:25 PM
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i'm telling another adult to think for themselves, rather than taking advice that doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:21 PM
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i can't say i agree that the gender one is attracted to is to blame, in any way, for that gender not being attracted back. so you disagree with OP that "All this stuff just pushes lonely men (Incels) further back"? because that would be giving too much blame to one gender for simply trying to help. it's society and phones, and men and women in general, and lots of factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:13 AM
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okay, be cautious around women. why would that bother me?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:59 AM
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men aren't to blame for a woman not being able to find a boyfriend. why would you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:52 AM
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women know that. if they didn't, millions upon millions of women wouldn't be married to men. generally when women say they need to be cautious around men it's because there are enough dangerous men in this world (dangerous for both men and women) to make that a prudent idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:46 AM
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i'm not upset he's blaming women. that's par for the course on this sub. plenty of men have also given women unhelpful dating advice. i've been given dating advice i didn't agree with. some men say sleep with a guy on the first date to show how attracted to him you are, other men say don't sleep with a guy on the first date if you want to be taken seriously. i made my own choices based on what i wanted and what i was comfortable with. i'm not posting about how other people's advice is to blame f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:38 AM
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this post is about how women's advice is not only unhelpful but also so destructive that it's pushing even more men into loneliness. so once again blaming women for a man's lack of dating options. but my exclamation mark upset you? okay...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:28 AM
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my tone was flippant but i'm dead serious that relying on other people's opinions to form your own world view is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:53 PM
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in regards to the first one, on one hand it sounds amazing to be basically (i say basically because i know this is not a 100% thing and men have varied experiences too) guaranteed an orgasm during most sexual encounters regardless of how well the person knows my body. on the other hand that would come with the uncertainty that i can fully satisfy my partner. i think i'd rise to the challenge and do my best but it is a different headspace. as for the other one, it would make me feel insanely self…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:50 PM
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yep sorry i misread at first but i evennntuallyyyy got it haha
/r/MensRights18/06/26 11:32 PM
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do you mean if men's orgasm experience was as varied as women's and i would have to put more effort and fine tuning into exactly what he specifically likes? or everything is the same in terms of how orgasms work, the man is just more focused on me than himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:51 PM
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right, got it. the study looked at 18,700 young, hetero couples. of those hetero couples 24% experienced violence. half of the 24% was reciprocal. roughly the other half of the 24% was perpetrated by the woman as the sole aggressor.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 10:44 PM
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"the fact that most people call DV a women's issue, when men experience it from women more often than vice versa." that study is not saying that 70% of all domestic violence is at the hands of women. it's saying, in this study, when the violence was from a sole aggressor, it was more often the woman. still not a great look for women, but not the same thing.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 09:32 PM
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hard to back up an angry tangent full of misleading/wrong information
/r/MensRights18/06/26 08:49 PM
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because women hear all the time how men don't take them seriously if you sleep with them right away, and she wants to be taken seriously
/r/seduction18/06/26 06:26 PM
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at what point are you going to admit that these women are outliers and not indicative of women in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:03 PM
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agreed! think for yourself, it's pretty great!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:01 PM
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sigh. nothing "proves your point". yeah, those men had female fans. so does that skull face tattoo dude whose name i can't remember. women who are attracted to that are disturbed in some way and in no way indicative of women's tastes en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:56 PM
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same with me and my husband
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:07 PM
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never dated any man that had a provider protector mindset. so yeah, i do truly enjoy and appreciate a relationship without those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:46 PM
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"For a woman to not cheat on a man, that man needs to give her constant dopamine." no. a thousand times no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:41 PM
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what if he developed his own likes, dislikes, dating style, and personality rather than just being reactive?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:37 PM
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confused as to why you feel like a good man would be "losing out" by not being chosen by a women who would pick a criminal. isn't that good man just dodging a bullet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:24 PM
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no one has denied that there are women who do this. but these women are not indicative of what emotionally healthy, average women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:20 PM
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hi. i'm not manipulating you. i said that calling a woman slutty is not something i do and you got VERY upset. you called me a dingus lol, and now you're mad i don't think you're awesome? and you said "guess what buttercup?" i mean, that is so condescending that it's quite funny. but you still think you're a real swell guy who deserves a lady, huh? i never attempted to come across to you as good hearted. i'm trying to convey that societal fairness and equity has never extended to sexual attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:19 AM
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no, you didn't write it, you just provided it as some kind of proof that women in general would rather be with someone who assaulted them than an average man. which is really disingenuous and ultimately irrelevant to actual dating issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:58 AM
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do you want me to link articles to ted bundy and richard ramirez to prove men hate women? outliers are NOT the rule. basic logic. the fact that some women go for these men is not indicative of women's preferences en masse. are thousands of women lining up outside courthouses to try and date felons? no? well then what does this have to do with you not getting a date with an average lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:55 AM
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good grief, dude. if you're attached to being a victim that's your problem. ETA to add, basically everything you've said is really unappealing to women, that's not me attacking you, that's real feedback. i can see why women don't like interacting with you. but rather than taking that onboard, you're like, ugh just another lady who doesn't appreciate good dudes...you haven't ever considered that maybe you aren't that good of a dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:41 AM
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the door can open for men without amazing looks or charisma but the opening might be narrower (so to speak lol). you might connect with a woman in your same field, with your same hobbies, a friend of a friend, that kind of thing. i'm petite, pale, and brunette, with a sarcastic sense of humor and i love movies. a tall, tan, athletic man who doesn't care about movies probably isn't going to be interested in me. makes sense. i'm not going to go to basketball games to find a partner, i'm going to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:39 AM
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lol ""Slutty" only iron mans your example you dingus." what? i didn't even read past that. ETA - okay i read more "Guess what buttercup? We live in 2026 not 1900." but you're such a kind respectful man, why don't women like you!? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:28 AM
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i never said "slutty". ew. i don't use that word. the fact that you would even jump to the word slutty lets me know that you aren't the "genuinely nice guy" you think you are. i feel zero sense of unfairness because i've never felt entitled to a romantic partner. finding a spouse/bf/gf has NOTHING to do with fairness and it never has. thinking it does is concerning. this is the kind of emotional thinking that men claim to be incapable of (we're the logical ones!) that makes them bitter for no re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:16 AM
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lolllllll come ON, sir. that is laughably ridiculous. desirable/emotionally stable women don't want to date dealer/murderer/rapists or shut in losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:47 PM
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ridiculous. saying no to a date doesn't make you either of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:44 PM
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we're already saving up for my son's bar mitzvah so i don't want to hear it! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:27 PM
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this article is really bizarre and disturbing and quite obviously a major outlier in terms of rape victim's experience and coping mechanisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:46 PM
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looks and charisma might get a man in the door, so to speak, but content of character either keeps him there or gets him jettisoned out of her life, assuming the woman is emotionally healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:43 PM
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it is available to men, there are some extremely successful OF men who have mostly male subscribers. 89.5% of OF subscribers are married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:59 PM
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i have a hard time understanding how these situations get contextualized for men. if i hear men like soft, feminine, submissive, modest women and then i see a guy out with his loud, confident, curvaceous, girlfriend whose showing a lot of skin, i don't think "society lied to me about what men want!" rather, i think "i guess there's more gray area and nuance in this situation". right? you hear content of character is important to women, then see some women dating men with low moral character...an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 07:22 PM
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i avoid eye contact with most men in public because they will assume even an accidental look is an indicator of interest and come bother you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 06:48 PM
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yes, he was a teenager with a big crush on rosaline until he saw juliet. nothing dark triad about that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:54 PM
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"We are told that we must dismantle systems that harm women" no, you are being asked to. women are asking you to care about our safety and rights. you don't have to. plenty of men don't. a person not being good at dating just doesn't carry the same weight as personal safety and rights. and it shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:08 PM
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👍🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:54 PM
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they actually meet and fall in love at first sight before they realize who the other person is (Juliet isn't allowed out much) and then they are both totally devastated when they find out the truth. just read the cliff's notes okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:49 PM
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fair enough! the ages are problematic to be sure. but he is not a dark, controlling presence like (the book version of) healthcliff or the like. eta - also he is estimated to be between 16 - 18 but your point still stands and i'm with ya, also misspelling
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:46 PM
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so, there are women in this world who make romantic choices that aren't in their best interests. yep. there are men who do that too. there are also millions upon millions of men and women choosing partners who aren't toxic. may i ask why you are so focused on a relatively small group of women and their choices? in order to prove that women aren't perfect? yeah. it's true. not every woman is an angel with it all figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:41 PM
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Romeo was a total sweetheart, naive, ding-a-ling who married Juliet almost the second she brought it up. Not a dark triad man at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:34 PM
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don't go on dates if you don't like paying for stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:30 PM
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yes, sex can be important. but it's a want, not a need. your body won't cease to function without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:24 PM
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different perspective on female loneliness: went through a debilitating depression in college. cut my boyfriend at the time loose because i couldn't take him with me on my downward spiral. he was the only person i had ever slept with at that point. a male friend tried to swoop in when i was extremely vulnerable and coerce me into a relationship/sex. friendship over. thought i would trust a different buddy when we were hanging out with a group of friends. we all got drunk and this f*cker was all …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:18 PM
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didn't say every woman is a good person, i said that men contribute way MORE violence to the world than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:47 PM
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i'm not some female outlier from another dimension. i think quite a few of my views in this life are shared and i feel confident that MOST women would not leave the man they are committed to for some famous person. there's really no way to prove this either way so i think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:10 AM
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i'm not going to leave my husband for someone else. some stranger, just because he's famous? seems like a no-brainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:12 AM
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at this point i'm really going to need another man's opinion. because you're saying that an average man would not leave his average girlfriend for a famous, probably rich, physically perfect woman. a relationship that, even if it ended, would change his life and dating options forever. he would now be seen as worthy of rich, famous, tens. a man wouldn't do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:25 AM
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right, right i forgot that men don't care about literally anything other than hotness but then try to act like that's somehow more noble than caring about careers haha i'll try again. a man wouldn't leave his mid looking girlfriend for a famous 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:39 AM
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"Most men would not leave their woman for famous women." based on what information? your opinion that they wouldn't? a man would not leave his cashier girlfriend for jenna ortega?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:01 AM
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no. would most men leave their woman for sydney sweeney?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:35 PM
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...by their (predominantly) male subscribers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 10:34 PM
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it's not a shock, i was just disagreeing that feminism was the sole driving force of the sexual revolution why are men so obsessed with OF? get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:31 PM
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probably because men put "beauty" on such a massive pedestal. it's like the single most important thing to a lot of guys.
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:28 PM
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"They are talking about women who make $10k+ a month, women who make/made millions." but why shame those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:43 PM
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are you new here? this is the same tired argument men are constantly making on this sub. "choose better" "women reward bad men with sex" "not all men" "women should lower their standards" the reality is -- there are millions of average men married to average women. they are not jet-setting around the world. they are not getting constant dopamine hits. they are in the day to day of being in a relationship. chores, jobs, finances, being there for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:37 PM
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you don't understand correctly. do you actually believe that women are incapable of loving a man for who he is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:31 PM
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"What I would like to know is why women are often described as the more inclusive and kinder gender." mainly because women contribute a helluva lot less violence and death to the world than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:30 PM
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this doesn't sound like there's any kind of depth of emotion involved here. it's just a dressed up version of "dudes don't wanna bang fat chicks"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:09 PM
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certainly not from the majority of the male side of the sexual revolution who were also equally active participants
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:04 PM
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"so many career driven woman that still expect a very wealthy man to provide for their lifestyle " i never, ever see that in my social media travels. source?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:39 AM
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there are TINY numbers of men who are nurses for babies who have a low chance of surviving their infant-hood. the majority of people who hold, wanted, loved babies as they take their last breath are women. is that as important as construction, or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:34 AM
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and? they're doing it and you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:32 AM
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this is pretty good stalling. my 5 year old daughter does it when i ask her to answer for something she's done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:32 AM
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what do you know about women that women don't know about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:25 PM
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welp, you didn't name one single iota of specific information about your understanding of women. if men have such an in depth understanding of women why are so many men all over the internet asking how women think, what women want, how to date women? so men somehow inherit all of this information from men of the past? how? by reading books? women have also read nietzsche and you spelled it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:13 PM
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feminism was FAR from the only factor that contributed the sexual revolution. the single biggest shift was due to birth control pills becoming available. also the youth counter culture was a driving force, pushing against the established norms of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:36 PM
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i'd love to hear this understanding of women you possess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:55 PM
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right? like, they're never gonna believe this but that is actually HOW plenty of men become boyfriends and husbands. the relationship evolving from initial attraction/hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:54 PM
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"but being chosen for casual sex is a strong ego boost for men. They may need to experience it to understand how amazing it feels." but it is so often just being in the right place at the right time. the amount of personal validation some men tie to sex is just so misguided IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:53 PM
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good GRIEF. do women do maths? one of my childhood friends is a professor of mathematics. do you know who katherine johnson is? do women fight in wars? there are women in the military right this very moment, of their own choice. i feel embarrassed for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:48 PM
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most NICU nurses are women. women are the the overwhelming majority of elementary school teachers. the idea that men are irreplaceable and women are disposable is just incorrect and classic misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:45 PM
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believing women contribute nothing of value to society is demonstrably false and totally irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:40 PM
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except that women literally grew and birthed every human on this planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:39 PM
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women are over half of society. women work in infrastructure jobs like medicine, food service, child care, education. we all work together to keep society functioning. the comment "if women stop working nothing happens" is obviously false and illogical. how's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:37 PM
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"If women stop working nothing happens." i'd say this is the logic of a child but that would be insulting to children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:25 PM
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there are women who will absolutely never date a misogynist no matter how attractive he is. there are women who don't care and will date a "hot" man, hell, there are women with internalized misogyny who might agree with his views. there are men who would date someone they see as a misandrist if she looked like sydney sweeney. the world is a big place and there are people who prioritize looks over character. there are people who don't do that. if i lived my life according to the opinions of men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:25 PM
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but you said it affects men's lives in ways that women underestimate and can't fathom. you're saying that a man just cares more about the women he's with if she's hot. that's not unfathomable. that's just prioritizing looks over character.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:07 PM
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i just said that i trust your interpretation and i'll take another look. i was using rape and sexual assault interchangeably.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:03 PM
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okay, well denying anyone's sexual assault, even a fictional character, feels wrong to me so i'm not going to do that. if you feel you're seeing assault there, then you are. i haven't seen it since it came out, i'll give it another look.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:52 AM
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"Metoo is the prime example, women decided that they have the right to accuse anyone without any basis." no. many men made life in general, and especially in the workplace, miserable for the women who worked there, for decades. i was working in reality tv pre 2017 and some of the companies were seriously like mad men. one boss had his assistant, who he was sleeping with, tell me i could come over and use his pool any time i wanted. i mean that is the tip of the iceberg in terms of sexual harassm…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:29 PM
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the only reason i'm "refusing" to see it is because the people who made the film said that's not what is happening in the scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:11 PM
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okay so that's one. a man feels motivated and that motivation contributes to his happiness? what else?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:09 PM
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anora spoilers - i read a lot about anora when it came out and the ending is not supposed to be anora assaulting igor. at least not from sean baker's POV. she is trying to thank him the only way she knows how, he passively accepts, but when he tries to kiss her it crosses into a more ambiguous territory for her where she is not as in control of the encounter, all the events of the film come crashing down on her, then she has a break down while he holds her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:29 PM
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"Oftentimes women will reject a man's advances initially because, due to slut-shaming and purity culture, they don't want to appear too eager and "easy", but they still expect the man to keep pursuing. " quick question, why can't the man just think for himself, recognize that this woman's expectations for him to keep pursuing after a no, are unhealthy, and move on? consent really shouldn't be complex and nuanced. if it's not straightforward just get the hell outta there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:12 PM
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"Might just be right, it is just that the same attractive men damage all the "fresh" women over and over. This is a big problem with feminism." what does that have to do with feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:36 PM
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"Physical beauty matters even more to men than women want to believe and contributes to a mans happiness in a way many women underestimate and cant fathom." wow, that's weird! ETA - okay i've gotta know, in what (many) ways (that are beyond fathoming by me, a woman) does physical beauty contribute to a man's happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:00 PM
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"They still want a one-sided world where men are the only gender expected to follow roles." "In conclusion: Men shouldn't be responsible for grown ass adults feelings." but ahhhh, women do all kinds of things to manage (some) men's feelings and men's egos, and men's unwanted attention, and men's anger, and the entitlement some men feel towards our time and our bodies... eta this my lived experience and many women's lived experience, this does not mean i have no empathy for men and what they go t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:35 AM
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so interesting that, in the video, she says that norah vincent's biggest takeaway was how isolated men are from each other emotionally, and that was the most difficult aspect of "being a man".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 12:24 AM
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them not doing as much doesn't mean they shouldn't be
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:23 PM
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not sure why i'm getting downvoted, i mean it's fine, but like knowing if she's single or even the type to entertain dating someone at work is, like an important part of the success of seduction, right?
/r/seduction12/06/26 01:00 AM
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...i mean...still doesn't mean much. is she single? is she the type to date a co-worker?
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:37 AM
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were you the only person she spoke to? why do you think the make up was a signal to you specifically?
/r/seduction11/06/26 11:40 PM
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same goes with older men's bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:06 PM
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but, as always, the overwhelming majority of younger women will want to date their peers, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:58 PM
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"During that baby/infant stage when the mom does the bulk of the work, she resents it when he's not also working/busy with something." why is the mom doing the bulk of the work then? other than breastfeeding what can't he also do for the baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:54 PM
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last week he told me that dicks are "the ultimate symbol of sexual power". i'm getting suspicious he comes here just to talk about dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:35 PM
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he comes to most of these posts to talk about dick size and it is really weird
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:29 PM
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what? why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:28 PM
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yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:22 PM
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ew, what? are you serious? wth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:11 PM
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lol sure, bud.
/r/seduction11/06/26 04:50 PM
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i would absolutely consider ways to help as long as they don't involve my sexual organs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:57 AM
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no. women do not "find the idea of intimacy with men disgusting and are immediately hostile to it". that's not the takeaway here. the takeaway is that women don't want our bodies sexually, physically penetrated for ANY reason other than consensual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:56 AM
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yes i mean, i agreed that it can have an effect. as i said that's why i started just wearing a t-shirt and jeans when i was younger. i think the pushback here from other woman and myself might be, i'm just thinking this through as i type...that: a.) as i said, it won't really stop the cumulative sexualization that we experience in our lives and women will still be sexualized all the time without it in various ways b.) the onus should really be on the men to not harass, rather than women having t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:27 PM
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this is one video of a woman wearing a burka. i think there's a respect for religion element at play here because i have worn oversized, long sleeve sweatshirts and sweatpants that covered everything and been hassled. as i said, you can reduce the immediate in-the-moment attention, but there are countless interactions throughout the day when you're a woman that don't involve catcalling. conversations men try to have with you, the male friends/co-workers in your life secretly hoping to date, all …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:43 PM
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it it's any help, as a woman who has had female friends who go for this type of "game", generally speaking you weren't/aren't attracting women of real quality and character. you are using techniques that would work on any simple minded person, male or female. you might be "addicted to the validation" but validation from whom? women who are easily lied to and manipulated? congratulations? it sounds like an actual woman of quality is interested in you. and you still want attention from women who d…
/r/seduction10/06/26 02:11 AM
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you've given public head to 7 different women on a park bench?
/r/seduction10/06/26 02:01 AM
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watched both videos. yeah, i mean i started wearing just a t shirt and jeans when i was a teen/young woman because, while one still gets bombarded with unwanted attention, one has yes. people who wear revealing clothes with attract more attention from desperate horndogs. respectful humans will not make another person's day more complicated by yelling sexual stuff at them while they're just living their lives. there are men who will sexualize girl children wearing diapers so, while like, yeah you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:58 AM
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kiss her first?
/r/seduction10/06/26 01:47 AM
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read through his post history and he just does not see women as human beings. just a series of physical attributes that are good or bad. i would LOVE to see what he looks like and give my opinion.
/r/seduction10/06/26 01:41 AM
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what? have you had multiple sexual encounters that were the exact same because of the woman's face to body hotness ratio was *subjectively* the same?
/r/seduction10/06/26 01:39 AM
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get.a.grip. eta - "Most women would rather date a bald fat asshole as long as he's dominant" this is just...welp, profoundly untrue. i mean, dominant how? pushy and bossy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:46 PM
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but you agree that men can and will often sexualize even a modestly dressed woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:43 PM
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sigh. i don't hate MRAs. and i don't hate men. you see any pushback against your feelings/views as hate? "Mask off. Thanks for admitting that you just hate men like all the other feminists. Never fucking pretend to give a shit about men again, just own up to being a misandrist next time." lol this is extremely dramatic and filled with so much anger. maybe you're projecting your hate of feminists onto women and assuming we all hate men the way you hate us?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:47 PM
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okay, the women on that thread made a baseless and stupid assumption. and? doesn't change the fact that being kind is one, pretty essential, factor out of several that lead to attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:42 PM
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saying an attribute can help you find a partner is not saying that attribute will get you a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:15 PM
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"This is corporations using feminist language to extract money" what's feminist language?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:07 PM
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you are projecting a hatred of men onto me that i just don't have. acknowledging that men historically had more societal power is not hate. everything you write is super reactive and dripping with disdain for women so...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:26 PM
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lol so all the guys who lash out at other guys for "white knighting and virtue signaling" are mistaken and should be mad at ladies...?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:21 AM
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so you agree most men aren't safe? you're finally getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:20 AM
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okay. **i obviously meant show up to support MRA rallies "I said it shouldn't be actively fighting against men's equality". great. quick question - what in the eff is men's equality? the only reason feminism was even necessary is because women didn't have the rights men had. many women were, rightly so, extremely pissed off by the overall specter of men trying to muscle their way into spaces where women have been treated as less than human and asserting that they were important too. no shit. man…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:16 AM
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"But they must also virtue signal and lie, it’s in their nature." lol because no man has ever lied. it's just not in their nature. "so they say men are unsafe (feminist propaganda)". heeeheeee, this one is extra funny considering all the men who say "i know how men think, they just want one thing" to the women they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:40 PM
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every action a human being makes can be misinterpreted by another human being's perception of it. i can smile politely at a man and he will think i want to sleep with him. "Persistence is another example. A follow up message or continuing a conversation can be seen as interest and confidence when the person is already interested, but it can be seen as pressure or annoyance when they are not. " so when you get the idea that they are not, you stop contacting them. a 35 year old women could approac…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:37 PM
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feminism is not just one thing. there are liberal feminists, radical feminists, intersectional feminists, and more the original intent of feminism was to close the societal and legal gaps between men and women, the right to vote, own land, have a bank account, have a choice between being a STAHM or working, the right to an abortion, etc. the current issues i'm aware of - portions of feminism are focused on ensuring a woman's right to bodily autonomy doesn't vary state to state, closing the gap o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 11:29 PM
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i understand that it the various messaging could be confusing but if i just look at these warnings - don't harass, don't be entitled, don't be creepy - those all seem really easy to understand and extremely easy to follow. i live my life not doing those things every day. my mind would never go to, but does that mean i can't be confident, take initiative and be proactive? well, no. because those are totally different. only if someone has a real lack of social skills/boundaries are those more nega…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:49 PM
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once again "feminists" is just used as a catch all here in the headline. which feminists? where? conservative, traditional people who definitely aren't feminists also object to characters being over sexualized in media. so many of the people telling men they need to be bold, have rizz, etc are other men. selling ideas and fake solutions on how to be "better" at dating. Approaching women becomes harassment. Sexual interest becomes objectification. Confidence becomes entitlement. Persistence becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 09:17 PM
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you are just illustrating my point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 06:32 PM
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but if you have confidence and are happy within yourself without needing approval from anyone...the happier and more attractive you'll be. this goes for both sexes, and what you're describing is, essentially, just not coming across as desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:59 PM
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it seems like a lot of men on this sub just use the term feminism as some kind of catch-all boogeyman for everything a woman has ever said that they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:49 PM
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no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 07:42 PM
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So women are STRONG! and INDEPENDENT! and have agency....except when it's convenient to your argument that they don', got it. ---- what? the majority of the richest people in the world, with the most power, are men. that has nothing to do with individual women being strong and independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:25 PM
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i just wasn't experienced enough to understand that a person could perform their entire emotional life. but i was very lucky that my first relationship in college was with a genuinely good man, so i was eventually able to see, hey, this is not the loving relationship i thought it would be. yeah, it became clear that he usually preyed on vulnerable women. he thought i was one just because i was still pretty naive but his garbage only worked on me for so long before i (was the first women in his l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:04 AM
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i hear you, i don't mean there has to be any emotional commitment. i mean that the well meaning women of the world hear "you are gross and used up by 30 to most men" and while we may not agree we're gross and used up, we internalize the idea that a younger man would never be interested. but then they're giving us fuck me eyes in the check out line at target, it's confusing lol i will admit my shortcoming in relating to this. i'm on the other end of the spectrum where i was getting touched and gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:53 AM
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i came to realize that he had no inner emotional life. everything was performative and a mask. he mirrored my feelings/actions early on, to hook me, to make me think he had a similar emotional make up as me, when he was actually devoid of emotion beyond anything self serving. sharing this sucks but he ultimately SAd me when i asked him to please stop, then when i tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, that he hadn't meant to hurt me, he said i was looking for attention and being dramatic. o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:47 AM
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i dated a guy who rescued and took care of a three legged dog. a friend of his had a major health issue and he allowed that friend to move in with him to convalesce. he was very close with his older sister. he flew my best friend out to visit me as a surprise for my birthday. he was not. i repeat, WAS NOT a good man underneath all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:18 PM
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"So your argument is dependent on men taking action. Thank you for playing, we have some lovely parting gifts." yes, the men who have hoarded power and actually run things. "spoiler alert: it's like 92%-95% male" this argument is constantly made on subs where men try to humble women. societal infrastructure also refers to food production, healthcare, education, even the post office. women are involved in all these areas. it's not just road work and power plants. "smth like 2/3 of the workforce w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 11:13 PM
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i'm a woman and i stand up and give my seat to elderly people, pregnant women, people with a small child, people carrying large items that would be more comfortable on their lap... did feminist propaganda brain wash me?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:34 PM
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the chances of finding your future wife by startling her at the grocery store are even tinier
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:30 PM
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1 seems like a great idea 2 isn't going to happen especially as long as lots of men keep telling women they are disgusting swamp witches no one wants anything to do with after they're 29 years old. 3 isn't one of the issues with sex work that the men paying often understand that they aren't actually desired and that doesn't have the same sense of fulfillment/validation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:22 PM
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such a pointless hypothetical IMO if all the nurses in the NICU just walked out, many of the babies there would die if women decided to stop giving birth there would be no more new people in this hypothetical of yours do all the men in power plants lock the doors so no one can turn the power back on? because the ultra rich men of the world wouldn't stand for a civilization they are at the top of deteriorating, and they'd just find a way to get the working men back at it. or women would step in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:14 PM
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"Well, let’s make sure the next generation of men grow up like women and don’t grow up with a famine mentality." how?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:27 PM
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"virtually everything you see there was designed, built, repaired, and maintained by men providing for their families" that's just having a job. having a job is not some indicator of benevolence. and not all men with jobs have families.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:25 PM
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what does this mean? "Goldiggers don’t have the werewithal to get that lifestyle ethically" how do you get that lifestyle ethically vs unethically?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:49 PM
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lol sure, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:49 PM
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it's not about them being perfectly equivalent it's a question about sexual attraction i've never ever thought of a penis as "the ultimate symbol of sexual power". i honestly think you're holding penises in a higher regard than most straight women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:41 PM
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precisely, because if they were they would have no trouble attracting women in their own country.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:01 AM
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not the really stealthy ones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:59 AM
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do you think the women who initiate divorce are doing it frivolously? like, women en masse are only marrying in order to have kids and then try to bounce?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:58 AM
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if you need to believe that a straight woman could never be attracted to a man with a small penis i guess that is your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:45 AM
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lol i don't do casual hook ups. i've only had PIV in relationships. that's just how i'm wired. i'm far from virtuous once i get my hands on a man i'm super attracted to. hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:35 AM
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ah, i see, that weird question was genuine. yes. i find handsome (to me) faces and personality/vibe are the hottest things. (i'm married now, but in the past) if a man is a worthwhile partner, and i'm attracted to him as a human being? we are gonna work with whatever he's got, whether that be a micropenis or something like a garden hose. and i will 100% be turned on by that man because of who he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:25 AM
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i just recently watched a video on how many women overseas are getting wise to this and call these guys LBH's (ie "losers back home") and purposefully try to either ignore them or take advantage of them financially
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:07 AM
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if she is a consenting adult who loves him there isn't a problem. i think the issues people have with passport bros include 1.) the ones who exploit women in dire circumstances in order to "get a wife" and 2.) the weird logical inconsistency of saying western women are golddiggers and then going to a place where you are most valued for your money and having no problem with that as long as you have the power
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:04 AM
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does this extend to mothers of sons? it's interesting you say this because i've only ever seen this said about how men view women, considering how much women are objectified and commodified by "predatory males". what ways do you see women dehumanizing men? like, considering them just a wallet or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:53 AM
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not exclusively no, just where the main character is male.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:46 PM
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"You are equating two different things." "The equivalent to making generalized negative statements about men, is to make them about women."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:41 PM
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i'm afraid i must respectfully disagree. the majority of movies, books, shows, video games have male protagonists. hell, my favorite movie Back to the Future has a male protag. women come of age in a world where the male view is often the default in media and in religion, with essentially no choice other than to see men's stories and find common humanity/human experience there. now, is a young woman who is cold approached by a man she's not interested in going to stop to consider his fullness as…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:34 PM
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she knows, she's conveying that women's behavior is generalized on this sub all the time and no one bothers to say "some women" or "predatory women" or what-have-you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:21 PM
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so, just to clarify, you feel something like "male predators" should be used instead of "men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:18 PM
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i've noticed that you bring up dick size in like 70% of your comments, even on non-porn related posts so i think i'm gonna let you handle that and stop engaging
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:07 PM
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nice strawman? what? you literally said that women don't like porn because it takes sexual attention away from them. i mean, men's survival depends on women continuing have and raise male babies. like...? human survival depends on us working together in various ways...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:05 PM
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they don't always choose who they get to shoot with in the same way. they take what jobs/scenes are available sometimes. nathan bronson has a cooking show on youtube and he talks about this stuff with his guests (also performers). the man is not always packing in amateur couples. that's kinda the point. you can find normal looking people if you seek them out. may i ask what you were expecting in terms of "porn for women"? tiny penises and candlelight?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:50 PM
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lol bellesa has a few different offshoots under the umbrella of the brand and yes some of them are just pretty standard guy/girl scenes. but they also have fun ones where the performers get to choose their co-performer from a list of people they like to work with or want to work with or their real life partner, and then they'll have a conversation ahead of time. i just really like knowing that both performers like who they're working with and feel comfortable. they have a blind date series that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:43 PM
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the feminist movement was not saying "no people other than women ever suffer". it was saying "hey men are allowed to vote, own property and have bank accounts, since women are humans too, shouldn't they have those rights?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:39 PM
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okay. i mean just by opening my eyes and ears i see men upset they can't cold approach women because women don't like it. i read all the time that men way outnumber women on dating apps. this sub has frequent posts about how men like women more than vice versa and men are more attracted to women than women are to men. but sure, let's say you see women that want more sexual attention from men. "Perhaps not all men; and perhaps not in every matter. But more." and your logic is that those women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:35 PM
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"You can't quote some matriarchal tribe from some isolated island." 🤦🏻‍♀️ early human societies were incredibly diverse in how they operated. there was no single type of labor division that was consistent across the world. thinking that human history was just men hunting and women taking care of babies and/or gathering berries or something is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:22 PM
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are you talking about the revolutionary war? when america gained independence from britain? what does that have to do with feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:15 PM
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hmmmmm true fact about wall-e. irrelevant to the specificities of my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:54 PM
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no the idea that women don't like porn because it takes away our "monopoly on sexual services" is delusional = wrong. trust me when i say that women have MORE than enough sexual attention and interest from men. porn is not getting in the way of that. something can't be an "unflattering fact" when it isn't a fact at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:51 PM
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are you saying that only 3-5% of adult women on earth are heterosexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:40 PM
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"But they didn't need to hunt against dangerous animals" women actually did a great deal of hunting, depending on the tribe why is it that men's rights activists generally know so little about history?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:30 PM
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you mean when women (and some men) fought for women's right to vote? to have bank accounts? that's when the gender war started?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:26 PM
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i mean, the overwhelming majority of POV porn is literally from the POV of a man looking at a woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:15 PM
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the phrase "control over the purse strings" means control over money
/r/MensRights02/06/26 05:52 PM
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"Is that phrase supposed to replace "women and children"?" no. like, not at all.
/r/MensRights02/06/26 05:45 PM
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"She is insanely spoiled and coddled" who is? ETA downvoted with no answer to my question! yeeehawww! another confounding day on reddit!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:14 PM
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i feel like my memories of being a woman would only help me in trying to date women, right? it's like i've got a cheat code.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:11 PM
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fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:10 PM
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women often do take precautions when dating, like sharing their location with friends, not allowing the man to know their address at first, not leaving her drink unattended. no, you cannot live your life in constant fear because, what kind of life is that? but there are very real fears we have to consider and steps we take to mitigate risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:02 PM
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bellesa tends to employ reasonably conventionally attractive men who are attentive to their scene partner. in a lot of mainstream porn they want the man to be as quiet as possible so his noises don't distract or turn off the straight male consumer watching it. and they also cut his face out of the edit. as a straight woman i want to see the man's face and hear his reactions. bellesa tends to leave those in and that's another reason it's "for women".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:51 PM
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what? marty was cool AF and jennifer knew it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:43 PM
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yes, i hear you. it's probably best, in any situation where you feel vulnerable, to make sure you are confiding in someone you trust. and that includes a woman you are dating. vet her to make sure she won't react poorly when you need emotional support.
/r/seduction02/06/26 01:45 AM
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he was rich and famous.
/r/seduction01/06/26 10:41 PM
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i respectfully disagree. i broke up with someone years ago because he never showed emotion and it felt like i was with a male robot. asshole women who believe men aren't supposed to have emotions will make you feel bad for it. well-adjusted women who want an actual life partner they feel emotionally connected to will not make you feel foolish for showing your feelings. but i'm guessing you taking your insecurity, over him seeming more confident and likable, out on your girlfriend is what turned …
/r/seduction01/06/26 10:39 PM
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another post about what a bubbly, candy-coated world women must be living in on this sub. 👀 "having fun and probably hooking up with a well above average local man from a club or dating apps." women have to be aware of danger. going somewhere and hooking up with a strange man requires a lot more throwing caution to the wind than a traveling man hooking up with a local woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:39 PM
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making sure i understand, so we would still be women, inside and out, but the pursuer role in dating would fall on us exclusively? am i trying to date men or women? ETA - or i'm in a man's body and i'm approaching women? but i still have my inner past experience as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:43 PM
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the way you are not only wrong but just flinging all kinds of different eras together is really something
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:57 PM
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okay. we seem to be having a major misunderstanding here. i'm happily married, sir. when i was 25 to 28 i was in relationship that slowly devolved into something i found less-than, empty, i realized it made me feel way less happy and fulfilled than when i was single. idk maybe it's because i grew up an only child but being alone has never been scary or bad for me. after that i decided okay, i'm not going to even bother dating or looking or thinking about any of that unless i get figuratively str…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:56 PM
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wow. pedantic gaslighting. that's what we're calling discussions now? sheesh. not everyone has a romantic partner as the be all end all goal of their life. so if it doesn't happen for them, they don't see it as a failure. if you personally see being single as being a failure, i guess that's your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:25 PM
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why do you think being single is being a failure? it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:13 PM
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so be it. thinking that settling is a good thing is never gonna compute for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:05 PM
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and where did men have to go hide if they didn't want that life? oh, they didn't have to go hide because they had full personhood?! wooooooow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:03 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:00 PM
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i'm not doing either. you're just making assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:59 PM
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a woman who is in love with her husband is not going to leave him out of boredom. the logic doesn't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:58 PM
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haha. so you don't really want my answers. you're just going to dismiss them. apparently it's unfathomable to some of you guys that a man could be lovable enough for a woman to want to be with him because of who he is. woman had to depend on men for survival and that's bad. women don't and get to choose who they love and that's also bad/not believable. sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:52 PM
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to be a major money maker? no. as a human being who i want to be with and grow with? yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:43 PM
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"Money status security and if they get bored they can leave and government gives them a care package." leaving because they get bored equals love to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:41 PM
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yes, millions upon millions should have become nuns. no matter their religion. solid logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:24 PM
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being with someone i don't love and i only tolerate is shitty to me. that's settling and it's pointless if you don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:22 PM
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pffffft. degrading our grandmothers lol you're the one who is all over your post saying that admitting financial dependence on men actually makes women of the past look really bad, and women (then and now) are just too dumb to realize we're somehow telling on ourselves? what era are you talking about? like... the idea that women just didn't want to do work in order to be independent is...profoundly misinformed and misguided. how does that make any sense at all? in "our grandmother's" generation …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:20 PM
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women having no financial autonomy is hilarious amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:41 PM
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not me. hell no i'm not sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:39 PM
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being single is way better than being in a shitty relationship IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:38 PM
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you mean the men (of the past) who set up a world where women had to be financially dependent on them to survive? that's men having a greater understanding of love than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:34 PM
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how? what? acting dumb? what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:07 PM
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it wasn't women's choice to be financially dependent on men back then, it was the world they were born into.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:01 PM
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but lots of women are loved and lots of men have sex and vice versa...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:55 PM
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he didn't have money. he was a tutor and i was a reality show producer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:33 PM
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ah. okay. right, right. let me break this down. when you said it was hilarious that a woman would marry for love the implication is that a woman would never marry for love. and if a woman would never marry for love, only resources or whatever, then what does that say about women's overall capacity to love men...?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:32 PM
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so you feel that women are incapable of romantic love with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:16 PM
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that's why i got married 🤷🏻‍♀️🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:14 PM
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so do i.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:12 PM
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love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:10 PM
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repulsed or just indifferent? genuinely asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:21 PM
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people, men and women, can stay stuck in abusive cycles. a young woman watches her father treat her mother and/or other women as less than or disposable. it can normalize abusive behavior. she might have a much harder time discerning what is a red flag and what isn't. also people (men in this case) who are abusive can be manipulative liars. depending on the person and circumstance, they can be way more likely to tell a woman what she wants to hear to lock her down and to get access to her. a nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:20 PM
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the men in erotic fiction are a fantasy in the same way that a virginal perfect barely legal girl who becomes a nymphomaniac for one particular man is a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:11 AM
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"Sounds like I couldn't be happier compared to working man" i will say i found stay at home parenting to be more difficult and demanding than working a job. but at the same time, it ultimately feels more worth it because you're pouring your energy into your children instead of just making money. so, yeah. i hear ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:56 PM
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so you can dismiss someone's message as unimportant if they aren't well known? this lady is even less famous than nick fuentes, so i guess you guys are just overreacting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:50 PM
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he wasn't a "nice" guy. people who worked with him talked about how he was a wildly ambitious, exacting perfectionist. and also a master manipulator. like how paul mccartney confided in michael he was going to try and buy the rights back to the lennon/mccartney catalogue and michael outbid him for it. which ended their friendship. janet has talked about how she never felt any warmth or love from him.
/r/seduction29/05/26 08:56 PM
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she is not being serious about forced sterilization. have you ever seen any of nick fuentes videos about women? full of hate. wants to take away women's right to vote. he started the "your body my choice" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:43 PM
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"She starts with the same horseshit feminist portrayal of history as a walk in the park ("near total freedom for men")" she doesn't mean men, historically, were allowed to do anything they wanted. she means that men weren't dependent on another gender to have the rights of a full adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:36 PM
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i was supporting you in the idea that she could work, you could stay at home, and the baby could still have breast milk because she can pump. if you both can stay home, great. i think i understand that you were saying free play for a few hours is better than daycare for a few hours. that's your prerogative and your choice as the parent. when i say fill the days i mean that as the stay at home parent, every day, day after day, month after month, year after year, you are responsible for every sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:07 PM
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i find both gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:41 PM
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lol not vetting correctly after you've been together for years and he changes once you're pregnant/have the baby? be for real, sir. 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:34 PM
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so she would work but pump and leave bottles for you? i mean that can work as long as she's got enough supply. i did 3 hour a day, day care once my son was 2 years old. i vetted the HELL outta this place as it was private and at this woman's home. it was loosely structured with snack times and play times. and only 7 kids of roughly the same age all there together. he's 9 now and still friends with a kid we met there. i honestly hope this happens for you and you get to see what being the stay at …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:26 PM
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"A woman acting masculine is seen as strong, independent, and breaking barriers." what does "acting masculine" mean here? also, often on this sub, "feminists" seems like it's a just a catch all term for some kind of man-hating oppressive entity. lotssssss of feminists support gender fluidity and breaking down superficial societal barriers that keep people from expressing their true identities. "I always see feminists try to flip this into something else by saying that men are hated because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:09 PM
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right, so you would blame the person that got lied to rather than the liar, as long as the liar is a man. just like u/velvetalocasia said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:03 PM
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so a sahm basically. you know that you can do half day care, or even just like, 3 hours a day, so the child meets other children/makes friends while the stay at home parent can breath and buy some groceries without a baby strapped to her chest. it doesn't have to be all or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:58 PM
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"saddened" oh jeez sorry for hurting your feelings, bud. yeah i saw that. got it, so no viable artificial eggs currently exist, the technology is moving there but there are currently way too many instabilities in the development phase. but, they're also making artificial sperm. which, by your logic, means men's contribution to pregnancy would also be unnecessary. is that good?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:48 PM
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right? you're telling me i wouldn't have had to smell my own flesh burning from the emergency c-section i had to have after over 30 hours of labor and massive blood loss, where i was in serious danger of having a stroke due to preeclamsia? i could just be handed my new baby with zero effects on my body like my husband was?! sign me up too!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:33 PM
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artificial eggs? artificial eggs? there's no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:25 PM
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artificial wombs would still need eggs donated from a willing woman so even those will need a woman consenting to sharing her reproductive "materials".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:22 PM
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They can be any gender but i want someone staying at home with the child instead of daycare. until the child is how old?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:00 PM
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well, that was unhinged. do you think sh*tty men show up on the first date being sh*tty in all these cases? like, he was clearly an irresponsible prick from minute one and she for some reason still chose him over a kind, handsome, ethical man who was also offering commitment? what version of reality of this? people, both men and women, can misrepresent themselves in order to get into a relationship, in order to get into someone's pants. there are men who mask who they are until they get the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:55 PM
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good grief, sir. 1.) there are quite a few men on this very post complaining that women en masse have communicated that they don't want to be approached in public. if you won't take my word for it, perhaps you'll listen to other men. 2.) "thousands" of women coming online to say they want to be approached is an easy way to get engagement right now because men like you eat it up. you're tearing your hair out angrily, "ahhh what do women want why won't they be clear? they're the problem!" women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:14 PM
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"Oh so let me get this straight: women are "off limits" in places where socialization is not the expectation? So men are limited to approaching women in places where socializing is the expectation ALONE? " yes. that's what we've been saying over and over. and over. speaking to a woman out in the world isn't off limits. just coming at them with sexual/romantic intentions. weird that i feel the need to clarify that but here we are. "Seems like you're putting a lot of limitations on what men can an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:29 PM
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you want to cold approach women in the produce aisle that's your business, i'm just saying don't be surprised when the women is not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:59 PM
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it's not a strategy. i just don't have any interest in a strange man telling me he thinks i'm cute while i'm buying wallpaper. i didn't ask for his opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:57 PM
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my point is places where socializing is the expectation. how is that difficult to understand? is socializing the expectation at the grocery store?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:54 PM
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there are always interested men out there, if you're a woman you don't need to rely on someone cold approaching you to get into a relationship. you can meet through friends, family, extended social circles, church, hobbies. my husband was my best friend at work's roommate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:52 PM
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why are you guys so convinced that cold approaching a stranger is the way you're going to find your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:49 PM
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being able to contextualize situations and behaviors isn't being a mind reader 😬 so i told you some places where approaching is considered socially acceptable and places where it isn't and you're still having a temper tantrum you're acting like this is an unsolvable puzzle box but i look around and see lotsssss of men in relationships with women. they figured it out. i'm sure you'll get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:37 PM
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no. women in general don't want to be approached going about their day. by any man. lots and lots of men still do approach. that is the reality. maybe just not really young men? Women constantly tell each other "stop trying, they'll find you." What? like seriously, what are you talking about? "Even a good person can only take so many insults before theyre no longer willing to stand up and intervene FOR the people that consider their feelings to be of the utmost importance while openly claiming m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:32 PM
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a larger man followed you around, followed you to your car, and refused to listen when you said no thank you, and that's one of the greatest experiences of your life? 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:57 PM
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lol i listed other places but honestly if you can't decipher when/where and how to make connections with other people, nothing i can say is gonna help
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:54 PM
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no, you seem confused. maybe that's why you're so frustrated. there are different societal expectations at a grocery store and at a bar. one is where people go to buy groceries, not find dates. the other is a gathering place for socializing. surely you can see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:49 PM
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i just told you where it's acceptable. you're making it harder than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:37 PM
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one man followed me through the store and then was waiting for me in the parking lot after i checked out. i tried to pretend like i didn't see him. that didn't work. after i had to manage his emotions while i put my bags in my car, i finally got out of there and had to drive around aimlessly for 20 minutes to make sure he wasn't following me. i went there to buy groceries. i'm allowed to be annoyed by that, freaked out by that, and not flattered by that. even if you think it's harmless. let's se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:36 PM
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it's not just "my claim". read the comments from the other women here who are agreeing. parties, bars, clubs are places where approaches are considered acceptable. not always welcome, but acceptable. approaching a stranger just going about their day just is not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:22 PM
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it actually is legitimately unnerving to be thinking about whether or not you need more dishwasher pods at target, and have a man you've never met come into your space to tell you what he thinks of your looks. it's jarring. and invasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:57 PM
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the majority of women do not want to be approached while just existing out in the world. that's why women put that message out there in the first place. the women online complaining are a small minority and/or doing it for quick engagement. it fits a very appealing narrative for some men - that women are missing their attention, but women, especially young women obv, are absolutely still getting more than enough attention from men of all ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:50 PM
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despise is way too harsh. i'd say, just assume most women are just looking at you as another human being out in the world, not a potential sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:38 PM
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it's currently a popular topic that's an easy way to get a lot of views. i don't think it's genuine, no. tons of men do still approach (maybe just not gen z men? idk) so i don't think there's any kind of real deficit of male attention out there for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 03:36 PM
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for me, i would never return a glance, i'd actively avoid eye contact, like i was looking at cantalopes and nothing else, and men would/will still dip into my eye line to talk. then i'd be polite but terse. clearly not excited to be talking but not totally rude. many still would not take the hint. edit to add using past tense because my wedding ring (mostly) works as a deterrent now
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:07 AM
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