PostModernismSaveUs Archive

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0	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? Well, those "intellectuals in ivory towers" (I guess I'm one) are the one's doing the research and archeology - not you. Humans are adaptive creatures. Competition only works if there is something to compete for. Most early Paleolithic societies were very small and engaged in a primitive form of communism since sharing resources meant that the entire band would be strong instead of just one person. Altruism is often argued to be an evolutionary adaptation for this reason, a band is much stronger…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 08:35 AM
1	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? Why would you call anatomically-modern H. sapiens cavemen? And no, they were very different. Cognition-wise, especially. Rape and murder were still extremely frowned upon in early human hunter-gatherer societies since, again, the most important part of survival is maintaining your small community and protecting them from harm which means forming up as egalitarian groups. There are small communities which are still like this on our planet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 08:19 AM
5	Would the MRM be more effective if it used TRP principles? Using a fat fedora wearing beta such as Dean Esmay as an example! Hey, if you wanna lift weights and be independent then that's great. I wish other people were about those basics as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 08:14 AM
2	Realtalk time: Give up porn And mentioning that you don't watch porn is an attention magnet. That's one way to describe it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 08:12 AM
7	Would the MRM be more effective if it used TRP principles? Using a fat fedora wearing beta such as Dean Esmay as an example! Well, you can self-improve without insulting the intellects of women just fine. In fact, I see that as a tremendous improvement in and of itself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 08:10 AM
1	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? I love how you know so much about "caveman" psychology. I'm just gonna assume you meant H. neanderthalensis who did not live in caves by the way. You are also completely off the mark. Neanderthals always lived in small groups, both male and female, and rarely interacted with strangers because they had no real cognitive capabilities to tell apart strangers. They lived in very interesting micro-societies which were limited by their presumably basic communication skills. There is evidence of interp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 08:08 AM
8	Would the MRM be more effective if it used TRP principles? Using a fat fedora wearing beta such as Dean Esmay as an example! But you are claiming these are your beliefs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 07:54 AM
7	Would the MRM be more effective if it used TRP principles? Using a fat fedora wearing beta such as Dean Esmay as an example! TRP doesn't say that men should openly say such things to women. Well I guess the cat's out of the bag considering anyone (even women!) can google "the Red Pill" and see all the wonderful threads for themselves. Just like most feminists don't openly attack men for being "dogs" or other things Hmm, maybe it's because that's not what they believe? Or, is that too crazy of an epistemic stance for 'ya?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 07:50 AM
7	Would the MRM be more effective if it used TRP principles? Using a fat fedora wearing beta such as Dean Esmay as an example! Considering we don't have an accurate scientific model of behavior, I highly doubt your personal model fares better. And I would think that a stance which characterizes women as "irrational" and "instinctual" and "manipulative" would be alienating. How about you take a survey and tell me what your results are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 07:43 AM
1	CMV: TBPillers do think that the way someone expresses themselves can invalidate what they're saying. Yes just like it is for all human-beings, it's weird and awkward when you violate the general norms of communication. Pragmatics, semantics, and semiotics are all things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 07:40 AM
8	CMV: Attractive Women, in general, would rather fuck the Red Piller than the "Nice Guy" What's up with the weird dichotomies in this wacky subreddit? Why is everyone either a "Nice Guy" or a "Red Piller?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 07:36 AM
4	Would the MRM be more effective if it used TRP principles? Using a fat fedora wearing beta such as Dean Esmay as an example! So your plan for making MRA's less alienating towards women is to adopt the values of something even more alienating towards women? I don't think it'll work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 07:34 AM
1	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? It's not that we're not friendly. We're angry. We'll get over it. We just didn't wanna hear that when she says, "I like a nice guy," she's actually lying to everyone around her and herself. That women are manipulative as a product of evolution. It's not malicious. Women like sex, but don't want to be perceived as sluts. That's perfectly understandable. But men are realizing that they are in competition with the Chad Thundercocks of the world, and they are losing. And they are very pissed off. I'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 07:31 AM
0	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. I'm saying the basic propositions are wrong and the logic connecting the statements together is at best dubious. Just to be clear, please note how you're doing more to defend his position than the original poster was. I think that makes it clear that not a lot of thought was put into it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 06:49 AM
1	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? Very curious where you'll accuse me of being special (I never understood the snowflake insult, fractals are a good analogy for the complex diversity of human life) and then insist that your "red pill" is about somehow breaking through the glass and "unlocking" the "secrets" of someone named "Chad." If anyone is trying to be unique, it's the person defending an internet meme which steals its symbolism from a movie about being conscious in a land of zombies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 06:45 AM
1	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? You make it sound like all women go through a period of crazy licentiousness with some category of man separate from "Beta Buddy." (the random capitalizing is extremely funny by the way, makes me feel like I'm reading a DFW story) I don't know who Chad is but when I was 16 I thought I was into teachers because boys my age were stupid - now I like women. I don't think I had any interest in your buddy nor your chad, most of the girls I was friends with weren't interested either. Both "Beta Buddy" …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 06:38 AM
1	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? Or... maybe everyone has different ideals and your goals in life change because you age because surprise surprise, your brain doesn't fully develop till well into adulthood and it takes a while to build up a sense of identity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 05:28 AM
1	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? Maybe they develop more mature tastes and realize that the real Chad is someone you can build a life with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 02:55 AM
1	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? Like I said, instincts are defined as not subconscious by current psychological literature. For something to be instinctual, it has to be an observable behavior repeated without learning stimuli - making claims about the conscious or subconscious falls outside the purview of what we can empirically call instincts. I don't know if mating is instinctual. I can tell you that curiosity towards it is probably instinctual, as there's evidence that we might fall into patterns of learning behavior trigg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 02:21 AM
1	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? If you're going to do pseudo-psychology, you'd at least want to get the terminology right. I don't know how something can be "all-overriding" since it seems Darwinian evolution doesn't really care how a society is set up or anything. To say we have a biological deposition towards survival is an obvious tautology since we are very obviously here and alive right now. A survival instinct could be something like stepping on a nail and screaming so that everyone knows you're in pain - it's instinctua…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 02:10 AM
2	Question for BP: do you care about truth? Or do you care about protecting a certain group of people's feelings? I believe that TRP is mostly right in that all thoughts and actions by both men and women are rooted in basic survival and reproductive instincts Which is incoherent. Thoughts are by definition not instinctual, since instinct involves fixed patterns of behavior not explainable by learning stimulus. Considering that humans have to learn how to walk, crawl, and babble (i.e. not instinctual) - there is tremendous burden of proof.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 01:54 AM
0	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. I don't know why you're citing things without a works cited, unless you like copy-pasted this stuff from somewhere else - I have no way to check the veracity of your statistics. I am aware of Diamond's studies but the 5-7% minimum (not 5-6) for any same-sex activity is fraught with many statistical problems which result in wide number differences between studies, necessitating meta-studies which can only deliver baseline numbers to which we can measure statistical accuracy to. The number is stil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 01:43 AM
0	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. I'm questioning the OP's assumption because if he cannot defend his claim against counter-examples then in what sense can this claim stand at all? If I can't falsify his claim by providing counter-examples then in what meaningful sense can I even respond to his claim? There is a behavioral model being presented in the OP. I don't think submitting it to the same standards as we do to other behavioral models constitutes detracting from the "actual" discussion, it's the discussion we should be havi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/15 01:41 AM
0	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. I just gave you like three links, one of which is a treasure trove of modern cognitive science.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 07:02 PM
6	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. I mean this is all pretty well-known stuff you can google. You have to do some of the work too, educating yourself on the literature which can be dense with terminology. You don't get involved in the field of cognition by demanding links with a rude demeanor. Here's a primer on neuroplasticity: http://web.stanford.edu/group/hopes/cgi-bin/hopes_test/neuroplasticity/ Here's a youtube video on the tongue device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKd56D2mvN0 As far as language goes, Lera Boroditsky fr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 08:12 AM
2	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. I'm not sure guys blowing each other constitutes a secret society but hey, we all have our fantasies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 08:06 AM
2	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. Well "Manwhoneversuckedick," considering the stigma it would make sense that it would be kept hushed. If you're really interested that much I'd perhaps look on your local craigslist where you'll find a lot of straight men who are looking for other men to do things with. I think it's a healthy curiosity and I encourage you to explore your sexuality, hopefully in a space which is comfortable and safe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 07:54 AM
1	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. Despite the scientific research, only people who do not actively seek to change, will change. Others will not. It takes deliberate and consciousness or if there is a lack of which, external factors to change a person's thinking. I don't really know what you're saying. You say "only people who do not actively seek to change, will change" and then go on to say "it takes deliberate and consciousness" (sic) to change a person's thinking. For it to take "external factors" to change a person's thinkin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 07:17 AM
5	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. The brain is a remarkably unstable organ. Our brain matter changes constantly throughout our aging process, age itself slowing down but not stopping this activity. We know that through neurological research, the brain can remap things easily in order to accommodate for example loss of function. Take for example a study done with blind people who use a device implanted in their tongue to receive feedback on objects in their periphery. Not only do blind people report being able to see their enviro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 07:08 AM
3	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. But the fact that you don't "associate" with homosexuality doesn't actually change the fact that there's something wrong with your argument. Let's take another behavioral model: P: Slorgos don't want to date Dongos because they already have one. Slurgos don't want to date Dungos because they already have one. Okay but some Slorgos seek out other Slorgos with Dongos and some Slurgos seek out other Slurgos with Dungos. If the hypothesis is that Slorgos don't date Dongos because a Dongo has some be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 05:13 AM
6	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. I would be debating its legitimacy online if the person I was responding to could actually answer a single question. Instead I'm wondering why you're even bothering to do this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 04:56 AM
3	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. Well, sucking dick is far from the only sexual expression two or more men can partake in. But we do know that as much as 37% of heterosexual men will report homosexual experiences since adolescence. This is the famous Kinsey Report which was very controversial, most of which because at first glance it appeared institutions which had a far larger incidence of homosexual contact (such as prison) skewed the numbers significantly. However in research done more than twenty years later, it seemed that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 04:48 AM
4	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. You have a lot of braggadocio for someone who is barely coherent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 04:38 AM
6	Why don't TRP acknowledge the win-win situation of gay marriage? Maybe I should troll my family as it seems you've taken to doing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 04:22 AM
12	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. So the fact that there is counter-evidence against your generalization which prove it to be untenable is something you don't care about? You really want to maintain that your behavioral model for women and men stands just on the basis that your "red pill philosophy" allows you to dismiss objections? You should tell me for whom your behavioral model applies to because I'm having a hard time discerning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 04:21 AM
8	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. What's your rhetorical strategy here? The set of people who have homosexual contact is far larger than the set of people who call themselves homosexuals. In many societies homosexual contact and heterosexuality aren't even seen as contradictory. My point here is that your generalization doesn't actually predict anything. That makes it a pretty bad hypothesis. Even if you were to argue that there is such a thing as an exclusively heterosexual set of persons for whom this generalization applies ce…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 04:11 AM
4	Do all women want dominant alpha males? When you generalize "women," what you're actually saying is "okay, I have this cultural understanding of what 'woman' is and now I'll talk about that generalization". These cultural understandings differ tremendously across the globe. What you call an alpha-male in the United States would be a subject of absolute mockery in other places. In many parts of Asia for example, an attractive man is a man who is soft-spoken and democratic - the understanding being that intelligence in dealing with othe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 03:01 AM
18	Women don't want to date pussies because they already have one. Men don't want to date dicks because they already have one. you can't change the basic functioning of the human mind It's interesting that this sentence contradicts the vast majority of scientific research done into the mind since the 50's. You can very easily change even the most basic functions of the human mind. "dick" and "pussy" are abstract references that don't actually mean anything specific. If men didn't want to date "dicks" because they have one then you'd better have a great reason why homosexual contact is so pervasive. My guess is some men …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 02:54 AM
6	Why don't TRP acknowledge the win-win situation of gay marriage? Based on this comment, the presence of emotional problems comes as no surprise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 02:47 AM
6	Which kind of an anti-feminist are you? Thankfully, there is just one type of feminist: the overweight, blue haired, HR career woman who don't need no man but needs two cats. Right? That's because the only disgusting thing which comes out of a cat's mouth is hair.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 02:45 AM
1	TRP shaming tactics Obamacare boy is cuter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/15 02:38 AM