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DebatePowerful-Sherbert990/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:02 AM
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Question for RedPillPowerful-Sherbert990/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:06 AM
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Whats exactly absurd about it? With womens high standards and freedom to choose. as well as happiness staying single, it allowed us to see what men is getting the most sex, what women are swiping on, what men she takes home that night vs the man she makes wait 6 dates on his dollar. and guess what men are one side and not the other? Focusing on this allows us to see what mopst women find desireable, and men do want to avoid being incels, gay has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:38 PM
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Dont seem to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:32 PM
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Im not sure why women make it complicated, and men try to understand what we already know. ITS LOOKS, thats it. just looks. No gray area, none of that stuff. tall, good looking, and a somewhat decent job. thats it. thats what the grey area is. Most men will never expereince genuine attraction from women, they get crumbs, so they try to make it seem like "if i do this, and that, she will like me, be a gentleman, pay" blah blah Shes just making you do more because you failed the attractiveness bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:09 PM

I literally just how attrtactive you are, i dont know why women in PPD want to make this so complicated. tall, goodlooking, and at least a stable job, then everything else will work out for you,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:03 PM
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normal women are fucking the tall and attractive variant of these men, whych what reveals what is most important. Then When he comes to the obvious conclusion that bad personality, traits and mindeset doesnt matter, its just height and looks, literally in my first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:04 AM
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good thing that wasnt the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:00 AM
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Normal women, as in women we see everyday. just because he hasnt gone for those women, or those women dont have the confidence to pursue doesnt mean these women dont desire these men, ita not about literally the serial killer vs the shy guy, that is a such a very specific two groups of people that nobody can even argue or debate serial killers are super rare. its using these two groups as a representative for a more general phenomena. I didnt say that all the women i mentioned are ONLY dating te…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:51 AM
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Normal women are fucking these guys. Whats you did is basically is "no true scottsman", or at least something similar. it really isnt about per say a serial killer vs the shy guy, its about revealing whats most important to most women. The underlying meaning Its such a convenient answer. You take a average or below shy guy, hes unsuccessful. He knows he is disadvantageous against confident and taller good men. But then he sees the tall confident terrible men pulling women equally as good. Then W…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:19 AM

Your a small minority of women according to stats
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:05 AM

i missed that but yea, women set their height filters alone is filtering out most men, saying they arent shown average men is just wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:39 AM

Since men generally find most women attractive. that 3/10 woman still have a good chance of fucking these men, thus she will continue in search of these men or stay single, thus its the same thing in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:25 AM

Meh...i wouldnt go this far. id say it depends on consistantly, and availability to get it at any point. Most men perhaps get lucky once or twice, since average men are everywhere women dont really care for these men and are going for the best of their options
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:12 AM

im saying that talking about your point that i have no idea how non naive average women need to be on dates to be safe. as a response to me saying women have no idea how dating is for men. its not comparabe, to the level of effort men have to do in dating, but if women was so concerned they would just stop dating. but they wont. so they are not that concerned as you say, because as you said, its a minority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:39 AM

exactly, a minority. it weakens your point you have no idea how *non-naive* the average woman must be in order to navigate her "many options" safely onbioudly not enough to not date the men shes attracted too,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:26 AM
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i certainly hear more anti-male more than the other two. and i think alot of men would agree with me. if men saw value in feminism, they would have supported it. and that is thats group job to get mens support, and they arent really doing so good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:16 AM

You still havent adress the options problem. most men get barely any swipes. 60 percent of men are single compared to half that of women. and most women do not find most men attractive physically, meaning height, looks, money ect. average men, are the only group experiencing all of this. not necessarily sexless, but rising proven sexlessness, and competeing against better men in the vastness of womens options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:13 AM

i was talking about average men, and nobody was talking about rare terrible gross men. so that point was irrelevant and my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:05 AM

all the men she choose, otherwise if she was so concerned about her safety, she doesnt have to date. and stay safely at home. but when chad comes. they aint skipping out on that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:02 AM

again, your personal experiences. are just your personal experiences. were not debating personal experiences. because they cant be. equating average men to an old fat hag in her 70s is not the argument you think it is. because it only proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:57 AM
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The thing about feminism. its not a egalitarian group. its a womens group. and alot of the hatred of men spewing from it, it made its own bed really for the last decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:53 AM

i say this because women have a naive view of dating because of their many options. They do not need to pay, approach, really any of the effort a man has to do to be well...not an incel. Women have high standards because they have the pool of men to back it up. which is why i though OP was a woman because only someone from a privilaged position in dating would say that. it wasnt some sort of shot at anything,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:41 AM

ah. i knew something was up good thing most of the things i just mentioned is not just stuff from people online. everything i just said up top there are statistics for them that i can prove if you need it. women only swipe on 4-5 percent of profiles. guess which men they went to? i can prove that as well. dating apps dont exist in a vacuum, the same men women swipe on is the same men they go for in real life, or do you think that suddenly she finds short men attractive all of a sudden because it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:35 AM

the whole world isnt your friends, nor you. You still havent adress the options problem. most men get barely any swipes. 60 percent of men are single compared to half that of women. and most women do not find most men attractive physically, meaning height, looks, money ect. if most men have low standards for women, and still struggling, what makes you think higher standards, will make them better? love is born from options, and options create agency to have high standards for love. high standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:17 AM

Sounds good on paper, but this ignores the dating market dynamic. Obviously your talking moreso about men because women are the more pickier sex, Your whole posts goes on about the ability to love. but in order for you to even love, you have to have options in the first place. You speak from such a naive view i almost though you were a woman, and i had to delete several lines of my reply. This would be correct if men had anywear near the options as women, but they dont. and women dont desire mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:55 AM
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women do receive sympathy,generally. its just being reeled back alot more than what it was,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:36 AM
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im afraid this is just comprehension issue, almost all women are looking for a tall attractive man, so they ignore red flags, and it was just an example because if a woman is going to suddenly not see red flags and be oh so manipulated and cant sense it, it will be for this man. , the comment was showcasing ALL the choices she made and her abundant of options as a woman, and how at every level between when this man was a stranger to being in a relationship. that she has some responsibility for p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:32 AM
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If there wasnt an expectation or anything. it should be normalized then, thus OPs post wouldnt even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:52 AM
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this whole comment is based on something i never said,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:46 AM
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(and many women I know) are just deeply repulsed by men who don't even *like* women and can't force themselves to be attracted by someone like that. Still, there are many women who don't mind that, especially if a man is good looking, rich or similar. That should explain Tate, Musk and the misogynistic Chads who still get laid. It's enough to be attractive in one aspect to find someone who deals with the rest. im not talking about you or the women you know. im talking in general. and exactly the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:36 PM
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still, the women are to blame for picking a short/bald/etc. guy? i literally just said sure to this, whatever small percentage of them that can get into a relationship. I can only speak for myself, i discuss a lot in these subs and MANY men are completely unaware on how their misogyny *seeps through* every interaction they have with a woman. they have the impression of a normal discussion and just do not realize their internalized misogyny. doesn't matter whether the sub is incel or not. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:13 PM
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in 2022-2023, andrew tate was the the most searched man on google for a period. this is google were talking about. not every red pill man likes tate, i dont. but he was indeed red pill. that was his brand. not everything needs to accomplish something, in order to be useful. its an ideolology, a way to view the world, not a goal list. and more importantly to knopw where you stand in such a world., however it tells what to avoid and look out for. "a woman who had sex with that guy immediatly and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:49 PM
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you do realize that everyday, women are getting abused by their short, bald, ugly partners, too sure, whatever percentage of them is able to get into relationships anyway. with womens abundant options, its likely small. and even a smaller group thats abusive we are not some mystical monolith who can "sense" character traits??? like i said, it shifts from topic to topic, for example. if were talking about incels and why they are unable to get into relationships. Women just know because of their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:34 PM
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women do get sympathy, especially, especially compared to men, its just that men, like i said, are catching up to the "we dont owe" frame that women set. im saying that its just now. reeling back. and many men are coming to the frame i just said in my OP. but women still do get sympathy alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:05 PM
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I dont blame anyone for getting abused or raped in any way. that all falls on the individual who did it. however, when it comes to sex and relationships. women are the selectors. she does take some blame for choosing him, Lets think about the absolute vastness of the options that women have. from men every day approaching, to the thousands of likes on dating apps, That one is too short. swipe. That one is creepy looking. swipe. Ew why did he approach me... until she gets the one that she wants. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:59 PM
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if the red pill or the darker adjacent pill was is such a small, fringe group that you make it out to be. you, women, or anyone in general would not be here, debating so much. to prove such ideology is wrong. A common thing people misunderstands is that red pill has been around a long time, but red pill couldnt not get traction by itself. Women push men to the red pill just as much as the ideology is reaching to them. The red pill offers answers to question that nobody would tell them. "why am i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:13 PM
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Interesting. Sympathy from what type of men? and why do you feel entitled to their care and empathy or sympathy? because if im not mistaken, women started the whole "we dont owe" hole. yall dont owe us anything. Which is correct. but see men are just catching up on the "we dont owe" train that women started. And whom men are you trying to get empathy from? chad? he doesnt have to care, women desire him regardless of how terrible or good he is. unselected men?, women barred these men from sex and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:54 AM
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your are not a man, so the difference and the reality of his dating life and yours is completely different. Its reasonable that you cannot help. you never would have understood it from your position and options. Like telling a fish the concept of walking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:59 AM
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How does any of these have to do with unselected men like in my posts. You also assume i said they never get caught or something, most of them dont, so your couple of links means...nothing in the meaning of this debate means nothing. also. she did not, "blow the lid" off jeffery epstein, He had already been to jail and on the news way before she ever went over it. Even when she reported it. nobody really was paying attention until trump released the files.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:57 AM
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Nothing In this novel. actually counter points anything ive said. You just generalized and moved the goalposts so wide that we cant even debate them. and alot of it you just blatantly misunderstood. and im not going to respond to the whole posts for example I said And what statistical harm do unselected men cause on a grand scale other than make women feel bad? you said So point me to one woman who shot up men for not dating her. I'll wait. Thats not a fucking rebuttal. You dodged having to go l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:48 AM
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musk, tate, trump. all of them They need to say all the women they had were just forced and coerced. All of these men are married, have many children and have lots of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:40 AM
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me and you already had our debate. im waiting on her repsonse
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:38 AM
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you misunderstood. The husband, is the women, and the abused wife is unselected men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:36 AM

ok bro. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:35 AM
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You are admitting exactly what I am talking about. You just stated that women "back off" from male loneliness because it is inconvenient or annoying to be hit on, and then you equate that systemic dismissal of male suffering to a list of insults women face. it is a justification for treating men's struggles as a nuisance that deserves to be silenced or mocked until they go away. funny how you didnt hear any of it, then you suddenly heard of it. And we have to give these peole less weight, yet ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:32 AM
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You say no one is out to get anyone, but the moment a man voices frustration about his invisibility, the response is to label him a victim or tell him his problems are not for women to solve. If you truly did not care, you would be indifferent. Instead, you are here, actively ensuring that his perspective is invalidated. Why is it that the only men you feel a need to correct are the ones who are already struggling? If this is purely about logic, why is the tone of your correction so consistently…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:26 AM
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You claim to distinguish between incel communities and unselected men, but you fail to acknowledge that the label of misogynist or dangerous is used as a blunt instrument to silence any man who expresses his frustration. By tying his existence to those specific groups, you effectively gatekeep the conversation so that no man can discuss his struggle without having to defend himself against those accusations. That is not risk assessment; that is the management of his speech. Regarding Epstein and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:22 AM
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Ive been saying incels have no statistics or papers of being dangerous. Yet they are but only for the blue pill and women's narrative. They need these men to be dangerous. Otherwise they would sit in how powerless and weak they are compared to the men that are passing laws, and have ACTUALLY done alot of bad things to women. It hits to close to home, That they have been yelling, protesting, campaigns, groups.... and yet never actually went anywhere. the only difference is that they have a group …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:17 AM
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You admit your behavior is retaliatory, which completely dismantles the claim that you are indifferent. You are not just ignoring these men; you are actively engaging in schadenfreude against them because you have deemed their frustration to be a nuisance. Your attempt to paint this as a non-hierarchical response is a contradiction. You are asserting power by deciding which men are worthy of sympathy and which men are worthy of your ridicule. You claim men are the ones who think in hierarchies, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:10 AM
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The indifference you claim is a convenient myth designed to make the ridicule of these men seem like a natural, neutral state rather than an active choice. If the level of apathy were truly as high as you describe, you would not be here commenting on a thread specifically about the treatment of these men. You say no one is out to get anyone, but the moment a man voices frustration about his invisibility, the entire room descends to label him a victim, a misogynist, or a creep. Why is it that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:09 AM
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You are repeating the same tired claim that these elite predators are everyone's problem as if that makes the lack of consequence for them any less real. If it were truly a shared fight against corruption then explain why the powerful elite continue to thrive and maintain access to the exact same social validation they have always had. You are hiding behind the idea of collective resistance to mask the fact that women still choose these men over the ones they mock. And saying women ignore unsele…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:08 AM
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But when they try to argue they should get pity sex or that women's choices are wrong or that they should.have any opinion at all over their autonomy there is an issue. Did you take a survery? how do you believe this to be true of the whole group? as a "red pill man" surely you would have something to back up your claims
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:07 AM
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<image> this is a quick one. so yall have never seen any comments like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:03 AM
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"male lonliness is self inlficted" "they arent lonely enough" "they are getting what they desrve" You never heard of ANY of these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:59 AM
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In short you dont have any stats. or anything to back up your claim other than your eyes and personal opinion. were done here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:57 AM
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I just said unselected. Never said anything about innocent or made any moral classification of these men because its illogical to do that for a whole group of people, because people have different morals potential to do bad things. Im pointing out why that these men regardless if their good or bad, are used as a proxy "win" because women cant do anything to men that are actually doing mass actual harm. This is just a comprehension problem on your part. I cant help you with that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:55 AM

You commented under the auto moderator comment, to save from an actual argument, stay on the sidelines kid. Your not worth responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:51 AM
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any stats to support your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:49 AM
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You are trying to claim that men are the only ones talking about this to dismiss the entire argument, but that is a deflection. Even if men start the threads, the engagement, the ridicule, and the toxic moralizing come directly from women. You know that if a woman posts a thread mocking incels or lonely men, it receives massive viral support and validation from other women. If you really believe this is just a men-only echo chamber, then explain why the mainstream media and female-dominated soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:48 AM
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You claim these men barely cross your mind, but here you are, putting in the effort to mock the premise of the post. If the subject was truly beneath your attention, you would have ignored it. You admit that having a man above you is just a fact of life you have accepted. That is the point. You have normalized the dominance of the elite to the extent that you do not even view their actions as something that warrants your resentment. However, you clearly feel comfortable mocking men who fail to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:46 AM
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The argument that women only mock men who solicit it through bad behavior is a transparent rationalization for a double standard. Every point listed as a justification for ridicule—whining about sex, complaining about rejection, or expressing bitterness—is dismissed as entitlement when it comes from an unselected man. Yet, when elite men exert actual control over women's lives, bodies, and global circumstances, that same energy is never directed at them. If this were truly about stopping entitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:44 AM
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You claim this is paranoia, yet you immediately confirm the exact power dynamic I am describing. You acknowledge that men like Epstein and Trump operated in the shadows, blackmailing and abusing while the system failed women. You are clearly angry at that. Yet, what is the result of that anger? You claim you do not take it out on "innocent" men, but you then pivot to a story about a man rejecting a woman to prove that "both sexes do it." You are deflecting. By pointing to a single instance of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:42 AM
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You are doing the work for me by admitting that a man's value is still tied to his sexual success and that mocking those who fail is a feature of the system. But then you try to deflect by blaming it on the patriarchy as if that is some abstract force existing outside of the people who enforce it. Who exactly is doing the mocking? If you see a woman laughing at a man who cannot get a date, or is an incel? or even men having "unrelistic patriarchal standards" that keep women in boxes?? are you go…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:39 AM
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You are proving my point perfectly. You admit they do not ignore it. You admit they only ignore it for so long before they lash out. That is not indifference. That is a deliberate choice to engage with aggression the moment a man stops being quiet in his misery. Why is the response to that self pity flag always a coordinated attack instead of just walking away? You say these men are invisible yet you are here responding to a post about them. If they truly did not register on your radar you would…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:35 AM
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You call it hostility to point out that women treat men as a monolith when they label entire groups as dangerous to justify their own exclusionary behavior. You claim women are not a hive mind yet you immediately pivot to the exact same tired trope of painting unselected men as violent threats or misogynists to justify discarding them. If women are so concerned about safety then why do they consistently choose to overlook the actual systemic harm caused by elite men while focusing all their vitr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:25 AM
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Agree. in my mind the situation is similar to how a man who goes to work everyday and gets punked, made fun of and humiliated at work and goes home to abuse his wife. they (women) know they arent really powerful, and they cant do much about it. its just about feeling powerful than Someone, or in this case unselected men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:16 AM
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You claim women do not care about these men and barely register their presence. This is a transparent attempt to gaslight the reality of the situation. If women truly did not care, you would not see the constant stream of mockery directed at male loneliness, the endless threads analyzing male sexlessness, or the aggressive ways in which women dismiss these men as losers or creeps the moment they step out of line. If they were truly invisible, why is there such a massive, organized effort to labe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:13 AM
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OH my god. this is what ive been saying. women are the ones bringing it up three years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:24 PM
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Becuase they are the selectors, women choose which man is desirable enough to have children, access to sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:14 PM
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And then you see that 50% of taxpayer money for that thing goes into marketing that thing... it would not take anywhere near 50%, you vastly underestimate how much money our government receives. You don't have kids, so you aren't interested in funding schools. But the kids going to school are gonna the ones who will provide services to you in the future, so it is in your interest to support kids in general. obviously social security would be something a unselected man, or even a voluntarly celib…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:05 AM
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you can support whatever you want, thats my point, everyone should pick and choose where their taxes go
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:23 AM
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sure, homeland security is vital because well you want to be protected from potentially hostile other countries prisons is to keep the bad men out of society, like the r*pist you just mentioned. these arent men specific, but abortions is women specific so these dont correlate. but sure. you should choose where your taxes go
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:16 AM
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again, just because we can should pick and choose were our taxes go. doesnt mean these things will necessarily be defended en masse., its just that the people who care, and have the means to give up some money a month. will gladly do it. even at the end your picking and choosing where youd rather your taxes go. its thge same for men who dont want to support womens bad choices. for whatever reason
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:09 AM
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obviously social security would be something a unselected man, or even a voluntarly celibate man would give their money for. it benefits them, you invest, you get security, again, we should pick and choose where our taxes go, lesser known things, will have to garner attention for people to care and give money too. a woman laying back, having kids with a man she selected out of her options, should not be every mans responsibility. i believe only men who were able to successfully be desireable eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:06 AM
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im talking more so the broader society. not what you posted. otherwise i would have responded directly to you. common sense, sweatheart
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:24 AM
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wasnt really addressing what you said. that wasnt the point. talking more in the broader society
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:21 AM
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what??........r*pe is bad. none of my family came from r*pe... but r*pes only make up a small percent of abortions if im not mistaken, most of then are women who willingly laid down with a man she thought was good enough out of all her options. i believe your talking about extremes. im not saying abortions should go away, i just dont think all men should be paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:09 AM
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i mean,,,in that thread it was just men saying "we know women dont care" or "you dont have too" but yea id say its like three guys here expecting women to care
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:03 AM
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its crazy how people have this humanitarian equal outlook on certain about one thing because it aligns with their personal political side/narrative. but super individualized separate "your own your own" "nobody owes you anything" type of mindset when it comes to people we dont like or groups we dont like, or the narratives or political side we dont like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:55 AM
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i believe its more about womens poor choices getting spread across society. even the unselected men have to pay for. Its only fair for the all men that were chosen as partners to have children with should pay for these things if not, we should all have the ability to pick and choose which causes our individual taxes go to
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:49 AM
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body positivity, which leads into the patriarchy talks, which is included in the feminism talks, its more so all of these, but i focused more so on body positively. because they all moreso preach all these same things its in my first sentence......
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:15 PM
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Nobody is arguing that this movement is literally passing laws or taking away healthcare. The point is that it functions as a social coercion tactic. Its a psychological attempt to shame men into altering their personal preferences and resource allocation. Youre trying to set a standard where, unless a group is literally threatening to strip away legal rights, their behavior is beyond criticism. Do you really think social conditioning and shaming tactics are benign just because they dont come wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:58 PM
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just dont bother with the post. just skip this one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:53 PM
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this is, only maybe, a 2-4 min read. then people wonder why there such a high number of adults today who are illiterate. not even mentionioning the amount of kids behind on the level in which they are reading at. Do you need a graph? someone to read it to you? AI to shorten it to cliff notes? a video under it of subway surfers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:50 PM
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what exactly is...unclear about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 10:40 PM

i type fast. just say you didnt feel like reading, or couldn't. plenty of people engaged, but i would understand argument on a deeper level would seem too much for you for now on ill a make a dumbed down version and put it in the comments for the lazy, challenged or both
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:14 AM
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personalizing and strawman, ill wait on other better responses. were already done here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:30 AM

sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:20 AM
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sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:06 AM
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well. very long winded, to say you agree. even though you missed alot of points we didnt even have to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:48 PM
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"There was no audition I saw this guy, I liked this guy. He didn't really have to audition because I was interested already." You just described the exact phenomenon that makes modern dating so difficult for most men: you only bypass the "audition" when you are already internally sold. The reality for the vast majority of men is that they do not have the luxury of immediate, obvious interest from women. They have to bridge the gap between "stranger" and "date" through initiation, planning, and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:32 PM

well thanks for proving my point at least
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:27 PM
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again, i didnt reply because your comment was strawmans and personalizing, the fact i have to say this again says a lack of understanding and comrehension
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:17 PM
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this is just personalizing the debate and straw mans, and im not responding to a low level reply,
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:12 PM

thats convient
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:11 PM
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You just admitted the entire point. you view the man’s role as the "provider/performer," and your role as the "chooser." You are explicitly stating that if a man doesn't perform the labor of paying and providing, he is useless to you in the "mating dance." You call it "masculine" and "competent," but what you are really describing is a transactional filter. You are setting a price for the "privilege" of your time, and you are using "masculinity" as the moral justification for why he must pay tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:10 PM
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It is easy to call it "irrational" when the system is working in your favor. You are describing a relationship built on mutual reciprocation, which is the ideal scenario for everyone. The problem is that for the vast majority of men, that reciprocity doesn't exist on the first date or the fifth. When you say it's just "vibes," you are ignoring the fact that for a man to get to the point where those "vibes" can manifest, he is almost always the one who has to initiate, plan, and pay. That sounds …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:07 PM
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You are describing a system where the man provides the capital (the date, the planning, the paying) to purchase the opportunity to perform. You’re arguing that because the "return" isn't guaranteed, it’s not a transaction but that is a distinction without a difference. Even in business, paying for an opportunity doesn't guarantee a return; it just grants you the seat at the table. You say, "The word is reciprocation... He takes care of me and I take care of him." That is a transaction it is an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:06 PM
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men paying for the first date, is in most cultures and countries in the world. places like sweden in rare, and men are still paying more. men are still paying for most dates in a relationship. your trying to essentially water down, this phenomena, how much do first dates usually cost? - this question alone comes from a privileged position.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:55 PM
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You’re playing a semantic game to avoid the reality of the social expectation. You say men "want to pay," but the cultural reality is that men are pressured to pay as a prerequisite to get the "audition" in the first place. or be incels, considering most women want men to pay and most men arent tall and attractive enough for women to not mind When you frame it as "men who want to pay," you are taking the systemic expectation and relabeling it as a personal choice to absolve the system of its coe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:50 PM
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you didnt answer any of my questions, plausible deniability inf your responses. were done here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:44 PM
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nobody is entitled to anything, i never said this, and this is straw man, or a lack of comprehension on your part, or perhaps a mixtture of both. The fact that your immediate go-to is to label a date as "tricking someone into being a prostitute" tells me everything I need to know about how you view male effort. You want the courtship, you want the dates, and you want the pursuit, but you refuse to acknowledge the cost of that labor. and the transaction, for women to be transational, and men to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:40 PM
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My issue has never been with the existence of the game or the lack of guarantees. My issue—which you’ve now helped clarify is the moral posturing that accompanies it. If it is "fine" for men to be goal-oriented, and if it is "fine" for the market to be transactional and amoral, then the cultural gaslighting that calls men "manipulative" or "gross" for having goals if he wanted you to go home with him for 20 dollars and dropped you because he didnt, or even split the bill because of it. needs to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:33 PM
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and what will happen considering most men have to be very proactive in pursuing women in order to not be incels? considering the overwhelming majority of women expect men to pay? and most men have little options? your replies are so privileged and tone deaf.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:29 PM
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"Viewing paying for someone else's food by your own choice as something you need 'return on' is worth shaming. That's gross behavior." And there it is. the moralizing shaming tactic I mentioned. You call it "gross," but you immediately pivot to confirming that you are "auditioning" men for the role of boyfriend or fiancé. L"audition" is a transaction. You are evaluating a man’s utility, his personality, his stability, and his provision, how tall he is, and how attractive he is and deciding if he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:25 PM
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because what will happen on the overwhelming majority of times when the man takes her up on her offer to split? in the context that men already dont have alot of options?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:19 PM
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"Men themselves offer to pay for women and approach them because they inherently want women more than women want them. That fact that women merely react to male desperation isn’t hypocrisy." Thank you for finally being honest. You’ve just described a market built on a massive imbalance where one side holds all the leverage and the other side is "desperate" enough to pay for access. If you admit the market is "inherently discriminatory and amoral," then you also have to admit that the "just be ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:17 PM
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This is a convenient way to dodge the topic, but it’s a complete non-answer. Nobody is denying that "some men" like to pay. What I am pointing out is the systemic social narrative that frames male investment as a moral baseline, while simultaneously shaming men for having the audacity to expect a return on that investment. You’re trying to turn this into a conversation about individual preferences to avoid discussing the cultural machine that enforces those preferences. If it weren't a systemic …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:08 PM
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Source - A sample of 552 heterosexual college students took an online survey that included questions about their actual and expected payment for their first and subsequent dates. Participants also completed several measures regarding their gender roles. The findings indicated that traditional gender norms in dating continue to be popular in the new millennium because in actual practice, men almost always paid the whole bill of the first dates and paid more for subsequent dates. i have more. you …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:04 PM
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You’re missing the point entirely. I am not demanding that every woman change her preferences. I am criticizing the hypocrisy of the collective narrative. Your trying to shift my argument or personalize it If the overwhelming majority of women continue to uphold traditional dating norms where men are expected to be the proactive, paying, risk-taking party then the culture needs to stop shaming men for acting in accordance with that dynamic. and not for "just to be nice" You can’t enjoy the benef…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:03 PM
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Maybe in your circle, but that ignores a massive segment of modern dating discourse especially online, where any man who expresses that he wants an outcome (intimacy, a relationship, or even just reciprocity, or even just to fuck her and leave her) is immediately branded as "transactional" or a "Nice Guy." There is a very vocal contingent that insists that if a man isn't performing "pure," altruistic acts of chivalry with zero expectations, he’s doing it wrong. IMy point is that the current dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:58 PM
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Your a rare exception and im not talking about, debating personal experiences nor do i care about them. in talking about what happens in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:54 PM
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Its not a case by case thing, your trying to nuance a situation where there isnt any. Here is one in my literal OP Source - A sample of 552 heterosexual college students took an online survey that included questions about their actual and expected payment for their first and subsequent dates. Participants also completed several measures regarding their gender roles. The findings indicated that traditional gender norms in dating continue to be popular in the new millennium because in actual pract…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:51 PM
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This is a beautiful example of the "Pure Intention" fallacy. You’re trying to gatekeep what constitutes 'liking' someone by forcing it into a box of selfless, zero-expectation altruism. . In the real world, "liking" someone and wanting a relationship or just sex and done with her with them is the "win." If I invest in a partner, I am doing it because I want to "win" what i set out to have. There is nothing inherently wrong or unloving about that. its a amoral martket The "smaller pool" of women …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:47 PM
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This is the exact kind of "romanticized narrative" I’m talking about. You're trying to frame the whole process of dating as an exercise in pure, altruistic devotion, which is a great way to ignore the structural realities of how it actually works. You’re asking if we "like the woman" or just "like what she means to us." Why does it have to be binary? When a man pursues a woman, he is interested in her specifically, her smile, her personality, her quirk But we aren't children. We are adults livin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:43 PM
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"Either you want to date these women or not, they won’t change for you or anyone else. Dating and relationships are buy as is." Exactly. Dating is "buy as is." My entire post is pointing out that women are the ones refusing to accept the "as is" reality of male courtship. If the "as is" reality of the dating market is that men have to be the proactive party, take the social risks, and foot the bill (which is the overwhelming norm, regardless of individual filtering), then women need to accept th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:37 PM
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You literally just proved my point. Doing something because you like her and want to escalate things romantically is an intention. It’s a goal. You are making an active investment to win her over, not doing it out of pure platonic charity here are women who don't expect men to pay for dates. Go pursue those women. Really?. The overwhelming majority of the dating market operates on the expectation that men approach, plan, and pay. Telling men to "just find the tiny minority of women who split the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 09:27 PM
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you mean that houses that have mortages, most americans are either failing to pay off or behind? i guess thats winning for women i guess. keep owning more houses
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:08 PM
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exactly,. they arent supporting it as much because WHY???? they arent benefitting from it anymore. and they arent wrong, nor is men not caring about womens issues thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:04 PM
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being a decent human being doesnt mean you should get support automatically, like any other goup, party, or campaign. it has to convince people to join it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:58 PM
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if femisim stopped benefitting women and only men would they still be in mass support by women like it is now? Your doing the "if your not on my side, then your on the wrong side" type thing, your not entitled to people caring, nor are they wrong for it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:56 PM
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oh excuse me i aint perfect. where exactly do women go and talk about things for everyone that bemnefits men? what subs? what tv stations? radio? where is these subs that that say hey "men need this in the name of equality" and not be downvoted to hell?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:50 PM
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it doesnt make anyone wrong. the only thing that is non conditional in life is death. everything is conditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:48 PM
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i mean, this is just moralizing attraction. tate? many wives and kids, Elon? many kids and gfs. Most mass killers of women either had kids or was married. hitler? i can go on and on. matter of fact half of all pedos, have no problem either. being terrible never stopped men from men from getting sex and relationships,only short unnatractive men, that "terrible men make us dry" never stopped any of them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:45 PM
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The way you say im "framing" just a comprehension problem. and a strawman, i never said any group was valid or invalid, i said that women are not entitled to mens support. even is he wasnt getting the sex he wants from women, He wisnt entitled to care in the first place, just like how you care about somethings and you dont others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:41 PM
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again, women arent entitled to mens supprt. and that doent ake anyone an asshole. its personal autonomy to decide what you want to care about. your going to force men to care?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:36 PM
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Personal beliefs and associtaion with a movement are all decisions in personal autonomy, if a man isnt getting what he want from women, why should he HAVE to care about womens issues. and why is he bad for that if nobody owes anything? just like a group isnt automatically entitled to the suppoort of anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:35 PM
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exactly, those movements are SPECIFICALLY for women. way to go back on your original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:31 PM
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Your not punished for nit getting support,. you were never owed it. that goes for campigns or any other event or group. which is why people have to get people to care about theirs, not automatically assume you are goingt o get it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:29 PM
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are women entitled to mens support?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:27 PM
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Women arent entitled to men caring, thats what your whole posts is about. we have things like the police, that women and men pay for, such as our army, or even goverment programs, nopbody entitled to care abotu womens rights, nor problems, it doenst affect men and men arent owed to care
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:27 PM
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If were being asked to. then men should not care as much, since nobody is owed anything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:25 PM
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its not self destructive, women arent owed mens care to their problems
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:24 PM
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a movement of people is just a group of people, who made the personal decision to align with the group. women arent owed mens consideration for their rights or discrimination anymore than a man is owed a date. Nobody HAS to care. we pick and choose what we care abotu every single day. why are womens problems everyone elses? mens? it doesnt affect us and what do we get from it? is unpaid labor for men to care and women arent owed that. your trying to separate women's movement as something we have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:23 PM
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when has the red pill anyone said anyone owes them sex. this si a common phenomena as what i call "group consequence" If someone doesnt like a group, they'll associate characteristics from another group they dont like, For example, someone like you doesnt like jeffery eiptein, you doont like the red pill, then jeffery is suddenly a product of red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:17 PM
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im not an incel. not for a long time anyway. men are in their right to not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:11 PM
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No solution, if women dotn woe anyone anything. men dont either, its fair. yall arent entitled to support or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:10 PM
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You keep sayign "punished" but at the same time saying "we know we're not entitled to support" lack of support doesnt mean you are punished. and men do not have to support anything youve said.. thats "womens issues" they dont affect men, and since nobody deserves anything, men are not wrong in anyway to not support it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:09 PM
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i didnt say that. but if were pickign and choosing were care begins and "welp your problem" begins then menare extending themselves too much. its also personal autonomy, to decide how to vote, what to support and women are not entitled to that. and men should me more self serving, because its their right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:06 PM
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lets stop BSing, those movements. are all those things but for women. because "women are still under patriarchy" they are doingt hose for women. go in any of those subs, and see how many are talking about things for EVERYONE
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:04 PM
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whatever, If women doent owe men anything. men dont owe women anything, that seems like their personal issue, not entitled to mens empathy or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:01 PM
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i came across it when i was looking for something else. they ironically sound like femcels sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:00 PM
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Let’s praise domestic violence and vote against our own self interests!! quote where i said this. because i never said it. o just said men should be alot more self serving, and if you dont quote where i said it, this comment is justa strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:59 PM
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the goal of the red pill wasnt to get men the sex they are "owed". you just misunderstood it. ir purposely doing that to fraw a narrative i dont like tate, but i never heard him say men are owed sex. if anything he just highlighted how women are. again its ironic considering how much women have beenm complaining for decades
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:57 PM
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We should be more, but you basically agreed so, no need to go further really
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:54 PM
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Why are men automatically assholes for being self serving? why are women allowed to? YOU said punished, but not giving support for momens rights or movement isnt punishment, your not entitled to support. considering nobody owes anyone anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:53 PM
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sure, i was usuing them to make a point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:51 PM
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In the US, people (men and women) are legally entitled to things like physical safety and equality. We care when people break the law, so we enforce it. The alternative is lawlessness, which most people don't want. we have police, govornment, army ect for that. men do not owe women our vote, free unpaid safety, or even preventative measure. especially if nobody is entitled to anything. obviously everyone is entitled to things under the law, I'm not really sure what this means, but I'm pretty sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:50 PM
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thats moralizing attraction, attraction isnt moral, if all tall and attractive men all beat women today, that will not stop women from finding them atttractive. its hypothetical. i have to say that for the for the chad cock defenders in the sub
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:48 PM
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becaisue all human beings do not have the same problems, but if one is being told it isnt owed. wqhy should the other continue to to get support?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:45 PM
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im saying they should be much more self serving, however that may turn out. if nobody owes anyone anyhting. why should women feel entitled to mens care and and empathy? they dont? then this should be a problem. also, There is no stopping any group from having extremists. they wil always exist. if we dont owe anyone anything, it should be all the way and not here and there
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:44 PM
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4B is already a small fringe group of women, but their space is only a break off from feminism, just angr group of women who decided on that lifestyle. they STILL are very angry and bitter to men in their own sub despite it. lets not sit here and act like they are neutral party
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:41 PM
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unselected men wasnt getting laid before, whats the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:37 PM
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hanst it? for something to be so, small and inconsequential, afringe group of men. women sure fight it alot. matter of fact trump, helped his campaign alot going on joe rogan, which he is described as a monaosphere, red pill whatever yall call him. andrew tate was the most popular man in the world for s brief period. ironic considering women have been nonstop whining for decades
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:37 PM
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More so, the business should upscale, men are entirely extending themselves far too much
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:35 PM
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but attraction doesnt work as, "i give what you want and i get this". women vehemently are against this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:35 PM
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But it doesnt work like that doesnt it? The feminist movement is known for long to be very radical to men. 4b. womens rights. all these spaces have been very hostile to men despite they progress we made so far. why should men extend themselves or rather not just be as selfish? they should be, and they wouldnt be wrong for it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:31 PM
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If nobody owes anyone anything, then men should be completey self serving, and if men voted for donald trump, they did. they arent wrong or right, just self serving, and we should be alot more
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:27 PM
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i didnt say it wasnt, i said it should be more. its even in my title.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:26 PM
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im going to slow this down and type more words so you can get it. there are homeless shelters that include men. that's the default. homeless shelters already existed for men and women. they proved unsafe for women, so women (and men who care about women's safety), fought to make sure homeless women had more safe places to go. okay? then it isnt equality is it? because if it was equality, then they should make homeless women's shelters, and mens homeless shelters. because it should be about both …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:49 AM
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women, and male allies, lobbied to make homeless shelters for women because women are statistically way more likely to be assaulted and trafficked if they are on the streets. exactly, its not a equality movement otherwise they should have made Homeless shelters for MEN and women, that way you could have women shelters and men shelters. i'm a woman who has had many women support me, and promote, me in my line of work. this is just not true of women on the scale you are suggesting. are there compe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:17 AM
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first off. this posts wasnt about women supporting women too much. its about women wanting support other women, in the name of equality wwhen it should be both, as op said, Men: we should make shelters for homeless, Women: we should make homeless shelters for women!. surely women are fighting to be brick layers, sewage workers, garbage men, firefighters....oh wait they arent. its about - "making sure women have equal power" also bold of you to assume this was just about some women, women absolut…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:55 PM
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yep, all that girls girls, or women supporting women is bs/ when chad is in the room, or that job is in the line, or theres extra room in the VIP section, or a couple more seats at the table, we aint got shit on them when it comes to hating women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:29 PM
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ill take it a step further, Women dont care about other women or their issues either. You ever notice how "girls girl" and all these other saying are only when men are involved or in some way to belittle and mock men? but when its women vs women not suddenly goes right out the window? id say im pretty rich. ive been to bussiness meetings, clubs, bars ect rubbed elbows with some very influential people. when chads in the room and its competition? Immediate throwing shade, throwing each other unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:03 PM
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skinny to a little pudgy maybe even more, 5-6 out of 10. works and everyday job like everyone else, not ran through. every man has a little twist on this, but it still is consistant, me personally i want to be scared of my mines a little bit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:59 AM
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unfortunately high standards without the options to back it up is just asking to miss out ont one of lifes milestones, sex, relationships ect. if men had high standards, wed be extinct in abt 100 yrs even less. to want an average decent women, thats decent looking, is not only necessary but its well good enough for a fulfilling partner, but we are dealing with hypergamy, height, money and other such things, and if women set the bar, then there is nothing else to do if your a man under that bar
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:47 AM
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im not op im sorry what world do women have it harder than men in dating, the only time a woman has it hard because they want a top man, otherwise they have their pick from relationships/ hook ups that men wish we could have. i guess being decent and decent looking iss high standards for women to meet, i wonder whos bar is really in hell. if a woman wants casual sex with you, she finds you attractive, thats the greenest light that shes not settling for you. and genually desires you. for casual s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:18 AM

and how is taking away their ability to vote going to change any of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:51 PM

this is not the way to go, thats exactly what they want you to say, to give them more fuel to blame everything on incels (even though their a harmless group) take awau their ability to vote then what? you think the desire for the top men goes away? think. your angry hell i was too when i spent the better part of ten years upgrading myself to only be the best beta bux guy, your angry at them for something that their wired for, what will change taking away their ability to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:46 PM

i wouldnt go as to say its because of shaming. for context im the its actually why i feel bitter to the redpill, i did everything right, im fit, only 5'9, 39k a month big house, cars ect, guy from a few days ago from that posts, that did everything right and wasnt able to achive the chad experiences for context about what im about to say. your right in a way, the standards for men is as high as ever, but i dont think this was anything new, vut not as blown up do to social media. women just had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:25 PM
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i dont even wanna debate with you anymore. instead of just saying. what i said COULD BE BOTH to you and anyone who shares the same argument you made. you made an opinion on "they/them" i addressed "you/your" opinion on "they/them" and if you what you were saying whasnt your opinion, then who tf were you representing? "you" can also be made to talk about a genral group of people "only you can prevent forest fires" Was smokey the bear fucking only talking to me specifically?? OR EVERYBODY. BOTH YO…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:15 PM
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did you not make these arguements? im saying YOU because YOU typed these arguemnts. DID YOU not say these? They will automatically assume based on nothing but "she had a bad experience" that this must be the case, and thus this is obviously the answer to "picking better." They're not actually advising on how to "improve her selection process," they're playing wingman for unchosen men under the guise of "advice." . It plays out time and time again on this sub. Hell, the only point of men constant…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:56 PM
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you literally said hey will automatically assume based on nothing but "she had a bad experience" that this must be the case, and thus this is obviously the answer to "picking better." They're not actually advising on how to "improve her selection process," they're playing wingman for unchosen men under the guise of "advice. so what is the goal? whats your argument? why do women want us to blame the abuser so bad but she also chose him our of her ABUNDANT of options your trying to swing all of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:35 PM
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ok then keep dating attractive men??? its still youyr fault because your choosing to date attractive men? its more so yall want undesirable men to be on women side to make those tall attractive men behave better, otherwise you wouldnt be on this reddit trying to convince us otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:57 PM
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are they? all i did was go down the "we dont owe-" rabbit hole and you didnt like where we ended up. bye
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:29 PM
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yea he should be in jail rotting, buts it no more. we dont need to call out manipulative, toxic cheating men and what they do to women in relationships. we as men dont need to hold our friends accountable, we dont need to call out creepy behavior, we dont need to for in womens favor, or anything like that, none of those things are against the law, nor do your taxes pay for that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:12 PM
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we, as a society, agreed that everyone is entitled to safety and representation. We pay taxes, enforce the social contract in exchange for human rights. exactly, we pay for the police, but we dont need to hold these men accountable because we arent paid for that. manipulative men should do what they want, and they are. and we as men should mind our business. jeffery epstain should have been punished, but we do not need to call out men like him, we are not paid for that. not helping women and ign…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:52 PM
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ok, thats perfectly fine. we dont owe women our vote, help or with any abusive, manipulative men, or any Jeffery Epstein's of the world. roe v wade ect helping women isnt a reward and not helping women isnt a punishment, theres no such thing as karma or magical thinking where good actions can be exchanged for a reward. therefor her being in a relationship with abusive man is her fault and men should mind their business. and they are
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:25 PM
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who is the blame on then? because by all means this man should be a incel. but he isnt. so why did she chose this man? because he pulled off the perfect manipulation tactics, as well as executed them perfectly, tailored to specifically her? sorry, women arent oppressed in dating. they pick who gets to fuck, who gets to have relationships, and everything in between. so if that man you picked is a terrible guy, you rejected other men, and you chose that man. its on you, because nobody else made th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:50 PM
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ok weve established that, ontop of women are primarily the choosers, this whole time ive been explaining why we blame women more for who they choose. he didnt cultivate a mastermind plan and persona to hook you. certain men get away with it. anf that was he was. and she chose those men, thats why its on her more so
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:46 PM
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they absolutely manipulate, they scam, they murder, whatever looks is not correlated to being a shitty person. If that was the case you'd have all handsome tall guys in jail. but in this context were talking about when it comes to women. why is one group doing so much better with women if its so repulsive? doesn't matter. The only guilty person is the one who's being shitty. That's it. it absolutely does, because when you are the one that is being the chooser for the overhwealming majority of ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:25 PM
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they were just examples my point is that if your tall and good looking, have money, majority of women will be ok with it. is it that its repulsive to most women? or they just havent come across the right man who theyll let slide? Its only most from lack of opportunity suddenly that "most" seems shakey
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:17 PM
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because your missing the context behind it that i thoguht you knew behind it. Women- like all species are the selectors, Women have way more an abundant of options compared to what little the average men has. ONLY a small percentage of men, can move on to other women easily and more We KNOW this. now with THAT context. you should be able to see why we say more to women that "she should have chose better" and dismiss it. we tell women that because the difference in opportunity is vast. the man is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:09 PM
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Andrew tate, donald trump, sneako, clav, jeffery dahmer, didnt seem to have problems, very outspoken people i can go on
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:52 PM
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You'd think that if manipulation was so good and men were so good at it. why arent short unnatractive men able to manipulate as much as the tall attractive men? mean some men who have ill intentions are better at concealing their intentions than others. As well as some women are better at reading people than others. thats where the critique comes in. becasue WHO is better at concealing and WHO isnt? You are attempting to get men to agree that it was his fault in your second scenario, do you hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:49 PM
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They werent selected anyway. they were cooked regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:41 PM
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You'd think that if manipulation was so good and men were so good at it. why arent short unnatractive men able to manipulate as much as the tall attractive men?OP is trying to convince men to give women some grace in this aspect about how their were no signs, Really? Is it more believeable to think this man curated the perfect and ideal persona for you and you specifically and executed it perfectly to the point where there was no way of telling or is it more believable to say you knew but he was…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:39 PM
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This is correct, but they have such a ingrained sense of holding up that moral shield. ive said this multiple times before, if incel, mysogonistic and abusive men were such undesirable traits and thoughts, then youd think that the tall attractive men who spout this same shit would be incels right? andrew tate? not an incel donald trump? married clav? women throw themselves all over him sneako? no and so on and so on this also leads into the conversation of men holding other men accountable, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 06:27 PM
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it does. it really does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:01 AM
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i dont think he meant it that way, he meant that they just naturally are able to have casual/romantic experiences, that men have born lucky in order to have
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:57 AM
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its actually why i feel bitter to the redpill, i did everything right, im fit, only 5'9, 39k a month big house, cars ect This was me if you remember that on that post a couple days ago, it actually got me banned for not debating the posts but whaterver, this was basically what my posts was about, for nearly ten years ive been red pill and in the end its made me a bit bitter to it, i did everything i could and in the end alli did was become the best beta bux option. i DO get attractive women atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:45 AM
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i was just to lazy to read it. your post on female orgasms isnt that serious. some women like one, some woman like the other, some like both, the bonding comes from when a man she finds attractive enough is doing it in a way she likes, wether thats clitoral or vaginal. hell some of them foreplay is almost half or most of it. to get her to finish. not many people are goin to have a serious straight answer to your posts because its to general, your talking about sexual bonding, its too general, to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:28 PM

i aint smart enough for ts. fuck better idk
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:51 PM
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how does it harm women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:38 PM
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im not the original guy you were responding to but sure Your point was that red pill is a reaction and that the fault lies with feminism as feminism is the root cause of the red pill. i didnt say that, but part of red pill is that, and it gives guidance on how to navigate around feminism to achieve what you want, You then argued that I put the blame on things that don't happen anymore. My point was that feminism was reactionary and the root cause was that past and present systems were put in pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:44 PM

i mean..what you think happens to men? everyone is shallow, but somehow were supposed to be lenient on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:35 PM
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i can easily come up with a bunch of bullshit women do as well. that i have seen and been told about. You attacking or trying to talk men out of a movement because for what past men did, and if you and other women are doing this. this is absolutly about some revenge or something or at least a big chunk of it is. and why talk to red pill men? let us believe what we want and find people who are in line with what you believe
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:06 PM
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there are extreme views of any group, left, right, top, down, republicans, democrats, centralist, non political ect, why is red pill suddenly not exused for some men having extreme views, and arent these personal opinions? you cant stop them from saying what they want to say
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:00 PM
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you also arent making a good arguement for why men should support it, Men are looking at this idea, this movement, and where not seeing alot of stuff thats taken off our back, yet the other side is not doing anything that makes us support this movement en masse. and if feminism isnt to take something off men back or giving us anything, then why are we supporting? literally want us to support it for nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:50 PM
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I mean, then you could just not get pregnant, them boom you wont lose any opportunities, or your job. your asking companies, to hold your spot, also while funding you. when they could have just hired a man in your position who doesnt need to do any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:45 PM

he was taller, but ive surpassed him in every other way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:43 PM
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well then....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:36 PM
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thats the...whole point of my OP. i didnt settle, i was excluded by women, what im saying is its womens fault, but its not a problem, because that was their choice and their right. im not sure whats so hard to understand about this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:13 PM
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i didnt compare myself to anyone, i trying to work hard to get a certain experience, and it didnt work, thats all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:50 PM

its say its both, life and a red pill thing, inthis case hard work did get me alot of money though, using my money to my advantage in the dating is literally asking to be a beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:49 PM

yes. but i was trying to achieve it, to get me considerably better dating prospects, which it did, but not in the way i wanted,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:21 PM

IMO yes it was bad, i had spent almost 10 years in this grind, while im bitter to the redpill abit, it has helped me more than it has harmed, as im in a very good health and high earning. but i watched what chad was able to do and get away with all those years. and i simply waited and grinded until i thought it was my time, my turn, only to realize that i just made myself into the best beta bux a woman could ask for. yes most people accept that their not special. or get special treatment but i t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:11 PM

being good looking is put on a pedestal because of the benefits we get. thats from, jobs, friends, connections, opportunities, and women. i am proud of what i what i accomplished, but one of the bigger goals i had im simply not able to have. and thats why im in particular bitter to the red pill a bit, but its helped me more than its been not helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 06:03 PM
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Thats literally what im doing, staying single to not be in situation that is not something i wanted. and i would have been fine with a woman who wasnt perfect years ago, but they didnt want me either, and if i was going to grind all these years to de desirable, why wouldnt i go for the best?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:57 PM

never said it was any womans fault, its nobodies fault, i just wasnt successful. but i will not be the settle guy either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:55 PM

i wasnt fat or anything back years ago, just a average slim with a little bit pudge, nothing grotesque or unsightly. now i just have some muscle to me. this was by far the most hard in these years
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:26 PM

its not the worlds problem its only me talking about a journey ive been on. and i didnt get the results i got. if i just wanted the attention of attractive women, then ive got it. but context matters, how they want me matters, I was excuded from experiences by women, its womens fault, but its not a problem, theres a bar for attractiveness that you can get very easy access and interest and effort. i couldnt get it seven years ago, i couldnt get it now after all ive done, My OP was more of caution…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:22 PM

Ma'am with all do respect, that was 34 damn years ago, when the internet was dail up pain in the ass. this is a wildlyt different landscape, different women, different opportunities ect ect, i wish you and your husband a lifetime of love
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:18 PM
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this made me laugh, no i wasnt grinding to be hoe. you can love people without desire, its called friends, you can desire people with out lovung them, thats hook ups. i wanted both. when a women feels both for you, you get the best version of a woman. sex, but as well as she doesnt need or want to drag you through hoops, or any shit test or pay for everything, ect ect. its easy, and thats what i wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:15 PM
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how is this self defeating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:35 PM

I'm curious - are you a 7/10 physically? And if you aren't, why do you expect to have a 7/10 woman lusting for you viscerally? Guys like you make me shake my head. First, good on you for your hard work. But, second, you get money to, in part, attract girls, but then get angry that they are attracted to you for your money im above average, in my opinion but youd have to see me in real life to get your own opinion. money was supposed to be a exponent, but not the full equation, thats why i didnt j…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:30 PM

being fit or successful doesn't change who you are at your core, its not metamorphosis if you wasnt attracted to me in highschool or all those years i was alone. then the only reason a woman will like me now is because of what i have and what i could give
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:19 PM

to get to the level im at right now, for the last years, all i had was myself and personal accountability. and it seems that it will be that way until the end i never saw those women in my earlier 20s, definitely wont see them heading into my thirties. and i definitely woulnt trust their word
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:56 AM
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i dont think its a problem with my mentality so no
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:12 AM
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it was hard to accept, but, my businesses still need to run, and life didnt pause because i was feeling terrible for a while trying to accept this, but i feel much better now, but the desire for it never left and never will
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:06 AM
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as i said in my post, im not dating any of them, nor have i led them on for sex or any other selfish reasons, even though the thought crossed my mind, i just couldnt do it. some have moved on, some still checking, some new came
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:49 AM

uh...i guess the second one? its matched my experience and the things i seen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:42 AM

im drawing conclusions based on experiences and what ive seen, im in my later twenties, the age where women mostly want to start looking for a partner to settle down, and it will only get worse as i get older. i definitely did not get any of these calibre of women (or any woman for that matter) talking to me and asking about me earlier when i started this jouney about 7 years ago. heck i went my whole highschool without even a date. the conclusions im drawing is not far fetched
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:40 AM

im fit, only 5'9, 39k a month big house, cars ect thatw as in my original post and a subtle weird funny that they seem to like, its just the type of jokes i grew up on. as for if im attractive, youd have to see me in real life to come to a decision, i would pull up some dating app stats but i never used those
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:35 AM

what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:27 AM

if all i cared about was their looks, then yes, i shouldnt and wouldnt be complaining, however context matters, none of these women would have looked my way years ago, and im not for being the settle option even though as i said, i spent all my years grinding only to become thest at the one thing i was trying to avoid, these women are beautiful, one or two of them i cant even hold eye contact, but under the circumstances, i cannot accept these women, and disrespect myself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:25 AM

yes, i would say most people would say so, im not being generous here, these women are sevens and up, theres one thats a nine i would say i cant even keep eye contact with. some have went, some new have came,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:21 AM

D.all but none of them are terrible people,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:41 AM

Was it just because the assumption that those women wouldn’t do the same when you were younger? its not an assumption, i know. Its my experience. which is why i dont engage with them. they arent terrible people, but they dont desire me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:40 AM

approaching only works for a specific group of men, and as i said onm my OP. i am getting attention from said beautiful women, but its not in anyway i wanted. i wasnt complaining, My op was one of acceptance, not anger
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:23 AM

no i dont approach women and never will. I never even said any standards because im setting up my life alone, but im guessing they assume that since im not being with any one of these obviously attractive women, that they are not attractive enough or something. my mother have been the one giving most shit about it, but i cant tell them what im saying here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:13 AM

There is no need to apologize, women are just doing what the female of any species are doing. The attention im getting from these women i did not reciprocate, ironically im being told by everyone now that my "standards" are to high because im not seeing any of these women who clearly would not have looked my way years ago, whom are asking about me through friends, parents, family ect. (im not on dating apps or anything) the only hard part is that im the only one of my parents children that wasnt…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:00 AM
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if a woman is truly in love she will move mountains to make the relationship work. hmm... When he's 60 and she's 10+ years younger she'll feel like she has to baby him. It's a turn off. women who have affairs are usually married to older men or very weak men. well so much for that moral high ground that women often want to front. the reason why same age relationships work more is because them men at her age at that time, is better(attractiveness) than the older men, and women will switch vise ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:13 AM

yes....unfortunately that is the hard truth about all of this. with womens freedom to choose we can see who is being chosen...and who isnt and i can assure you that those "toxic manipulators" are having no problem. and you the average man are not going to experience that ACTUAL desire. its actually why i feel bitter to the redpill, i did everything right, im fit, only 5'9, 39k a month big house, cars ect, but at the age im at women are done having their fun with chad and want to settle down,i sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:21 AM
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everyone starts off as strangers, and most women want the man to approach. which is the beggining of romance no...its not very specific types of women,almost every women can get attention if they are looking for it. just because your not getting attention from men your attracted to doesnt mean your not getting attention. if your trailer park 255 pound woman can have a guy or two hitting her up, then most women can. if you as a woman is not getting attention at all. your failing in a area that co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:44 PM
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once again its funny how when something undeniable gets presented alot of what these women say gets doubled down because it was. "women arent complaining" to now "only young women are complaining" and teh women here on PPD are quite the enigma arent they? they are women who spent years having their fun with multiple attractive men, and now their with their husbands and boyfriends who are tall and good looking... yet their on some vague shadow banned sub reddit debating with unsuccessful men... i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:22 PM
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oh we know women are attracted to a small percentage of men, but clearly from these screen shots NO men are approaching them. and clearly they feel bad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:53 PM
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Women cant sense anything from a man, they just say that so they can hold up that moral high ground as to why they wont be with certain men. they can Sense red pill, incel vibes off a dude, but when that tall attractive man is a abuser or have several red flags suddenly he was a master manipulator and a perfect one at that, their suddenly fucken blind and didn't see it coming. Really? they see how you look and contemplate the decicion to make something up about you to make themselves feel better…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:50 PM

<image> but theyll tell you on PPD that no woman is worried,
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:38 PM

maybe a bit off topic the replies i find it so funny how women on PPD simultaneously speak for all women, and "one woman doesnt speak for all women" and they go back and forth depending on which topic it is. "women are happy men arent approaching" "women still have loads of men approaching" ect ect also they have this weird unspoken pact with other women where they pretend everything is going well for them, and nothings wrong, especially in the dating market, when we clearly see that men are hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:32 PM
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not really, i think men were fine with women who wasnt into casual sex. it was fine to wait. but men started watching other men, barber shop talk, locker room talk, ect became online, and men found out that women arent playing hard to get nor are they squeamish about sex, they just want to make YOU wait, but that man she was attracted to? doesnt have to wait long, if not then not at all. its when we found out that women only hold all those standards for men shes "meh" with. average women do this…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:50 PM
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it matters if your average in looks or a bit higher or lower, but on the high ends of attractiveness, and on the low end. it simply matters less
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:07 PM
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not enough to where, its actually detrimental to their social lives,
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:04 PM
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learning social skills has alot more factors, iagree you can learn to swim, ride a bike, and other things completely in private, half of social skills is based the other person or people response, and im gooing to say it....a large part of it has to do with your looks. because people are looking at you while they talk to you. as well as smell. and a bunch of smaller but still big factors, like hygiene, setting, what your wearing ect. people are more receptive to attractive people, who dont reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:32 AM
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you trying to make men and women as if they arre on the same level playing field is optimistic at best, men and women experience dating completely different, vastly diffferent in terms of having options, vastly different in how we approach dating, you getting chad multiple times easier that a man getting a decent pretty woman, not even stacy, you dont have to have a low body count nor trad, nor cook or clean or any of those things, while a man has to be tall, good looking, money, ect ect, and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:02 AM
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yea no red pill man says that. if anything it teaches to avoid that situation, acknowledging, critisizing, and talking about whgat women actually go for instead of what they say is important, is not saying "give us mid guys a chance cuz we might be nice" its a intentional reframing of topics and moving goal posts, that allowed you to come to this conclusion that will allow you to dismiss what is actually being said
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:26 AM
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I love how when a women makes a choice of her own to be in a situation, or her past, its always something someone did to her, when in most of these situations, the dude was just tall and good looking so she stayed with him, but that doesnt look good, and it doesnt hold up that moral high ground. so, , she couldn't understand what was going on, she was oh so powerless, and he was such a good manipulator, ect ect. acting like these dudes are mastermind manipulators, when he could flat out say, hey…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:59 PM
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if you describe the man your dating as "the man you gave a chance to," then it was already over from the get go, or a very bad position for him to be in,. when a woman says this its basically a beta buxx in works, a sexless, marrige with it most likely end with her cheating, or just "finding herself"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:51 PM
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and how do you know its made up?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:22 PM

well, why isnt it? she chose that man, he was tall, goodlooking, and many women say that if a man isnt getting women is because hes hates women and many more, im sure is what hes getting at. because if its a moral faliure that these men cant get women because hes a misogynist, (which doesnt seem to affect chad) then why cant he say its her fault its her that she get used? that she chose that man? why CANT he say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:19 PM

i mean....hes not wrong? but from his comments it is a little intense, if a woman decides a man is tall enough, attractive enough...she chose him. why should men feel bad for women who CHOOSE these men? funny how women say shes doesnt owe men dates, which is fair, but men dont owe women the truth either, such as if hes an abuser manipulator ect
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:34 PM
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mind telling me how?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:10 PM
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Then why are you comparing relationships to eating chewed up hotdogs? im comparing teloling men accepting women who slept with alot of chads and ecpecting average men to be ok with it is like telling us to be ok with chewed up hot dogs, Because they simply dont want those women and move on... unlikes guys in PPD, who clearly want the Chad fuckers because they know those women were more sexually active than other women. i mean where they havent had quick hook ups with chat, is there some sort of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:48 PM
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but its not the same thing, hell even the OP later in my replies also said "Def not me if I was an average dude,,,but I can at least see the situation from the men’s side" shes doing them for you for a different reason, the tall good looking men only had to wait until they got back to his/her place, he has to wait the whole 5 dates, on his wallet AFTER shes done having her fun years. you could say shes "doing" things for him, just like the hot dog would still technically nourish you, but you sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:34 PM
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what else could average men possibly do to participate?? and the feeling is valid? id image you would be too if you were kept out of experiences while everyone got them,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:29 PM
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is it? i think i have more of a case that i could prove than you do, just because you settled for your husband, doesnt mean the rest of us want that, no matter how "angry, bitter, and alone." we are,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:21 PM
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what whores he fucked in the past?? he couldnt participate?? whats wrong with wanting to be involved with what literaly lots of women are doing and with certain men??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:13 PM
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it could be they never committed, have money, or dont have the settle down mindset she has, then she finds a man she never would have chosen in her "wild years" but he has resources, and looks good enough to be passable,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:10 PM
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So why should the men at the bottom think they deserve more? oh by god, how dare they want more than scraps of slop, what in the hell is wrong with them Most of them have because they understand and accept that they're average and are content with being average. yea, with AVERAGE women who didnt fuck a long lists of chad, yea most of them would be content with that To men who only want to be around women for sex, of course that would feel that way. how convient, no its not about sex. its about s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:59 PM
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Only a small group of men are even allowed to be able to do that, guess who? that complex can only be apllied to chads, and most women, average men are not able to just fuck alot of women,
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:53 PM
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no, its just not wanting to be the last settle down guy after giving freely to other guys she found better, simple as
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:34 PM
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Be in the top percent of men, in, which most of it is not within our control, but that doesnt mean average men should accept, something thats only a step above actual dumpster shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:24 PM
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a hotdog thats been chewed up and spit out multiple times is not caviar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:19 PM
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thats the point the other dude is trying to get at, no man wants to be the "safe guy" after shes done having her "fun" with certain men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:16 PM
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this is basically asking us to be ok with paying for a hotdog that was chewed up and spit out multiple times for free by certain men, and looking us directly in our eyes and saying "your being too picky its still food"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:09 PM
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thats good you at least see that, average dude is basically screwed to either be alone or get the bargin market 90% off desire from her leftover from the taller better looking guys she had sex with in her past, i guess we just gotta figure the wich option is less shittier, and perhaps maybe some of us will get lucky with a rare woman, im still trying to decide this decision myself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:01 PM
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i mean.....yea?? who the hell would wan to be that guy??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:54 PM
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no its not?? unless show me some examples??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:01 PM
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theres no direct research on that, but we have lots of data, that height, money, ect are very important to women, obiously most men dont fit this criteria, theres no reason to not believe that most women believe their settling, especially with the sheer amount of options they have
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:49 PM
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oh i forgot that you and the couples you know represent the general society, never mind the data, dating apps, research, ect, you and the couples you know are on top of that. therefore it is absolute truth, by god, what are we even researching for when you and the couples you know are right there. forgive me, i concede
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 05:12 PM
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and how would you know if its not the reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:59 PM
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the nature of attraction....can definitely be tracked, studied, ect.... theres literally many, many pages on this, as well as experiments. The problem is asking women in the first place, we dont have to, we can literally just see what they pick. what guys gets to have sex without waiting. what guys gets swipes, what guys have to wait until the 5 date ont heir dollar, what guys are picked "when their done having their fun". what guys dont get picked at all. and what youll find is that theres qual…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:36 PM
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humans relationship with dogs is not the same as romantic interest among humans. exept that beauty is not in the eye of the beholder, beauty can be seen, tracked, observed. we see it in dating apps which who gets swipes and who doesnt, who gets approached and who doesnt, who she makes wait and who she doesnt, tall, good looking men get first, second and third, then average men gets whatever after,
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 04:07 PM
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not necessarily unhappy, but settling, since one side has almost 10x the options the other has and can pull several leagues above, the man has no other options or be alone so he has to get what he can. and he can be decently happy, and she more than likely either was just a situationship for these men she was able to pull, or "done having her fun" and hes safe"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:51 PM
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as WAY more options than the other, we know almost all women want a man thats better than them in almost every way, height, money, ect. this is what we have data for and we can use that to make a statement on the average women actually fully attracted to average men. if you look at it at face value and nnothing deeper than yea, i guess you could use that as stance and itll be a good one, As i just said...again. due to the sheer amount of options, and surrounding evidence and biology, context mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:48 PM
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no, because unlike this topic the earth being flat has no surrounding scientific evidence/ statistics that heavily imply that its true, its incorrect scientifically, physics, mathematically, ect
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:10 PM
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There absolutely is a correlation, because you need to pass a looks, height, money(money can be forgotten if he really looks good and tall) threshold before you can get in a relationship, Otherwise if it wasnt, then incels wouldnt really exist, short men wouldnt have a very hard time. "oh but deep down they yearn for Chad" <---- this is the part that's made up that you guys can't prove." yes thats what i said above, we cant prove it, but in my example above we could draw conclusions that are lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:00 PM
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when i go outside, i still see women women who are with men who are very much taller than them, makes more, and spends more, you think that what women want suddenly goes out the window because its "outside" and not on dating apps or online? you have absolutely no idea if she settled for him becuase hes the "safe guy" or not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:45 PM
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I mean its kinds true, people can not be attracted and still be in relationships, while we dont have data on this specific one, we can draw conclusions from data we know from other topics, Height, money, status is very important to woman, because we have data on those he would be likely correct that any woman is with a guy who is tall as or shorter than her, makes as much or less than her, in a not so socially respected job... she settled for him and she knows that. which is a dangerous position
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:43 PM
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yea, were not talking about you specifically, most woman arent passing up a chance at a tall attractive dude like that. since hes rare and in the top percent of men, for most women he dosnt have to wait. and thats what were trying to achieve, but unfortunately alot of it comes down to genetics and it cant happen. so they try not to ask about women about their past, or even think about it. not because he doesnt care, but simply he cant get the treatment he wants. so he get what he can or either s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:27 PM
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you havent told me how its wrong, you seriously think women dont treat men differently by how she attracted to him, women are not going to treat henry cavil the same way they treat some average man shes dating, the goal is to get as close to henry cavil as possible, not settling for bargin mart desire, im not sure how you think this is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:48 PM
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Usually as you said women "having fun in their 20s" nowandays its going to be with the most attractive man she can find, which is her right, mind you majority of dates are on mens dollar (we have data) so if shes "suddenly changed her mind" and says she wants to "slow down" with you, and shes had all of her "fun" (shes done hoping from chad to chad, or at least all the most attractive men she could get) hes most likely the settle, safe guy who has resources. and can give her a lifestyle, (even i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:37 PM
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women are absolutely can, able and will change their minds, yall can do whatever you want with whatever decisions yall want to make, HOWEVER. as men were trying to avoid women that suddenly "changed their minds" women absolutely put out for men their attracted to, which is their right, but were trying to avoid being the "safe, done with my fun" typa guy men are judged by height, career, money, looks. at least with things women are judged by its FULLY within their control, and not a high bar
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:19 PM
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i think we keep going back over this point, you can have fun in your twenties, fuck whoever you want, its just a good chunk of men dont want to be with a woman like that, men also arent forcing women to have sex on the first daste, but its a good indicator you arent the safe, settle guy, if she had sex with men sooner than you, want that, if she didnt, then he has nothing to worry about. im not sure about that whole dressing stuff, and women only demand effort of men shes "meh" about and he need…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:47 PM
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yea, a $2,300 monthly mortgage thats on a contract or a 900-1,300 rent, i dont think so
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:19 PM
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The whole video games wil cause violence? The worries about VR? Hell even right now with AI. how the rise is men staying home and watching porn as to not going out? the alcohal industry a billion over the last 1.5 years, the discourse about men not approaching. ect ect this is false so you can pretend that woman arent so worried, or are so fine and everything is going well for them, its similar to how women brag about them owning more homes but most homeowners are behind on their mortgage is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:47 PM

it doesnt have to even be one, he could be just standing there,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 12:15 AM
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funny how women arent a monolith but here youa re speaking for all women. how do you know women will not have a outcry?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:37 PM

theres plenty of disrespect to short men. on all platforms
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:30 PM
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You cant compare those two because in one of the is much more serious and theres another pperson involved. if a woman is going to do a hook up, shes obviously going to choose the most attractive man she can find, (as per her choice). Men dont have this option, regardless of the circumstance, he wants a woman, but he doesnt want subpar treatment, Id imagine Most women would have a problem if a man is taking out a model to 5 star dinners, yet hes taking her to a arby's drive through.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:44 PM
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i get what hes saying, but the wording is a bit off. its Moreso, immoral. let that man find a woman thats down bad for him as you were exited for that hook up with the other guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:37 PM
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A standard is requiring something no matter the circumstances. Full stop. A woman who requires a non-coffee date usually isn’t asking what kinds of first dates the man has been on before, to figure out his “normal” process, to determine if she’ll require something from him without doing anything to earn it. That’d be silly and weird because dating is not a paint by numbers. does it matter the proccess of these standards? stardards are standards, most women would have a problem if that man is tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:30 PM
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its not contempt, thats like saying a woman not willing to accept coffe dates, is contempt of coffe, no she likes coffe, she just doesnt want it ona first date, its the same thing for men. plenty of women expect certain treatment without doing anything special to earn it. this is ironic from women who not only do this more than men, but coined the "anyone can have whatever standards they want, women didnt need to feel comfortable with that tall attractive man she took home after meting him that …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:39 PM
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its nott entitlement because hes not demanding her to do anything, hes not willing to be settled for when she only made the other dude wait until they got back from to her house, the only difference between entitlement and standards in this situation is if he said you "owe" me sex because you didnt make the other guy wait, a standard, is that she doesnt owe him anything but he is willing to walk away because he is not getting the desire he wants, just like a woman will not say shes owed anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 12:15 PM
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then you can literally say everyones entitled, even women and their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:26 AM
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i think thats a standard, not entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 05:20 AM
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so the 80/20 rule is right?, its funny how women on PPD say this isnt true, but the things they sey heavily imply this
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:54 AM
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