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At a certain point it just became a strange fascination on how weird it would get. And I was wondering where he was going. I left a bit disappointed tbh, don’t recommend
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:25 AM
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Do we get a reward for making it through that? Felt like it was just a crazy stream of messy consciousness from someone tripping on drugs rather than a thought out post with a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:54 PM
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It’s kinda strange but also kinda cute and endearing. I think I’d prefer the more traditional route though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:56 AM
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No blue piller or woman cannot seem to grasp that PPBs can be good looking and successful. Honestly, the better looking you are, the more fun you’ll have as a PPB
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:00 AM
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Is it in SEA? If so, I doubt it. There are a lot of old bald fat Russian losers there, sure; but there are also a ton of young fit average looking 20s something guys that absolutely kill it there. This may come down to semantics but I’d argue that the old bald fat Russians are sex tourists or overseas sugar daddys; whereas the young bucks who the women genuinely want to fuck are passport bros Common misunderstanding though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:56 AM
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She’s just arguing to be a contrarian. Or she’s trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:41 AM
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If men like me or the guys I mentioned in point 1 begin PPBing at higher levels, there will be less datable men in the west — making it easier for other guys like me or the guys I mentioned in point 1 because they’d have more options and less competition. How are you not following the logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:35 AM
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“The men going abroad to date and marry are more than likely not desirable in the first place” As you’ve conceded, even desirable men get an advantage overseas. If desirable men get an advantage overseas, more desirable men are more likely to go overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:02 AM
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It can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:12 AM
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I can pull well above average in any country. Met my current girlfriend in the west and she’s very attractive — objectively a 7 (significantly above average). My point is that it’s way easier to pull attractive girls in SEA and casual sex with decent looking girls is significantly more frequent. As such, even good-looking guys benefit from being a PPB. Actually, I’ll rephrase, good-looking guys benefit more than average or undesirable guys. Many travellers know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:10 AM
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When I say 5s and 6s, I mean average (so think of your friend group and pick the one in the middle in terms of looks) to above average looking (the one that the guys gravitate towards). 6s are generally thought of as being attractive/cute to the general population. Being able to date average looking and attractive women in the west makes you undesirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:35 PM
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Not necessarily. I know two guys that are pretty good looking and successful that lived in SEA/Korea for their 20s and then married local women. It’s becoming a wider phenomenon because jobs are becoming more remote. I don’t struggle with women in the west, but I do become an “overnight rockstar” in certain countries (not my own phrase). Anyone able to date 5s and 6s in the west would be able to date 7s and 8s in certain countries. Casual sex is also typically easier. This means that good lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:17 PM
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I kinda agree, but kinda don’t. Not all first dates lead to a second. So just because she agreed to a first date, doesn’t mean she’s head over heels for you and you’ve already won. The date still matters and she’s still in the filtering phase. I will say how charming and fun and cool you are on the date matters significantly more than the money you spend on her, but if she suggests dinner and you go on an incel rant about how you shouldn’t have to do dinner on a first date, you’re shooting yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:48 PM
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Some woman just don’t like it. I have talked with them about it and they don’t want it. I’m not going to pressure them into doing something sexual that they expressed no desire in. Are you straight? If yes, just talk with some of your straight friends, you’ll learn that many just don’t like it. If you’re lesbian, I can understand why it’s confusing to you because all girls you’ve been with have probably been super into it. But as someone who’s been with around 40 women, I know that many like it …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 09:05 PM
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Not sure. But a lot of women don’t really like it or it makes them feel awkward or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:40 AM
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Sorry, that was sent before I received your last message. Or at the same time I was typing it. I’d prefer if you don’t contact me further either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:29 AM
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You’re saying I called you a loser, I didn’t. I said if you see so many LBH, how can you know you’re not one yourself? It’s not a personal attack if it’s an assumption based on the information you provided. Is it wrong? You’re welcome to inform me if I’m incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:24 AM
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Why not acknowledge the rest of the argument instead of tattling on a perceived insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:19 AM
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If you took a screenshot, you’d know that I implied you may be a loser or surround yourself with them if you see so many of them — I didn’t call you one. I edited it because you were sensitive to that implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:14 AM
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How is that an insult? You said you constantly see LBHs where you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 12:09 AM
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Self-reported data isn’t objective proof. You shouldn’t have to be told this. It is evidence, but it is relatively unreliable evidence like a witness at the scene of a crime who thinks he knows what he saw and thinks he can identify the criminal. We know witnesses can be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:54 PM
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Lesbians typically get off by eating each other out, which is the easiest and quickest way to make a woman orgasm. Many straight women don’t even want to be given oral sex. About half the women I’ve been with have told me no when I’ve tried to go down on them. I feel like the way in which people have sex plays a bigger role than gender/selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:49 PM
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Tbf, self-reported data is pretty unreliable from both men and women. Not only do some people consciously lie on surveys, but many others may have convinced themself of something that isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:43 PM
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Be an average looking white guy in his 20s (not fat, not bald, not below 5’5, not super ugly). Massive bonus if you’re in shape. The better looking you are, the better this works. Also, blonde hair is a bonus, and if you have colourful eyes make sure it’s easy to see that in your photos. Take some really good photos of yourself (dress in an old money style for best results) and add them to your tinder. Fly to a city like Bangkok (you’ll have success everywhere in SEA, but Bangkok is a different …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:46 PM
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Actually, she was arguing that women don’t enjoy sex. She’s said it several times. And men don’t always enjoy sex either if the woman isn’t attractive in his eyes. Fucking an ugly fat chick or an older woman can be pretty unpleasant for a dude as well. So this goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 10:25 PM
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She’s arguing that “being plowed (in other words, heterosexual sex for women)… is awful.” She may be a closet lesbian or asexual (not meaning this in an offensive way). Many women enjoy sex… with men. Many prostitutes also enjoy sex… you both are just projecting your own feelings towards it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:50 PM
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Whatever dude. Don’t really care about whatever point you’re trying to make. Fact is that humans have hormones and those hormones effect how we behave in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:39 PM
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Mate, you replied to me in this thread and 2 others random ones not even from this sub within like 20 minutes. In each of them I’ve been the original commenter and you’re commenting on my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:32 PM
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You’ve already stated this take in another thread 5 minutes ago and I’ve answered. What’s up with you stalking my comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:23 PM
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Sounds like you just haven’t been with competent men. My girl can’t keep her hands off of me. We fuck like 5-8 times a week and she initiates basically every time. Seems like you’ve got some things to work out within yourself. Maybe you just aren’t into men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:17 PM
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lol keep reading the damn thread. indalo21 admits to trolling for fun by the end. You’re agreeing with someone that’s purposefully trying to be retarded for a reaction. Unless… you’re a troll as well? Wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:14 PM
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Biology/evolutionary instinct trumps social constructs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:07 PM
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You’re not understanding what’s being said and you’re just repeating yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:05 PM
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I reckon about half my first dates have led to what I’d consider a favourable outcome for myself. Like eventually getting laid on the second or third date and having it potentially will lead to a fling or relationship. I’ve had a few girls that got to date 3 or 4 before I realised I was investing in a sinking ship. You kinda gotta take some risks mate. I’ve definitely blown $200+ on a failed attempt, but hey shooter shoot. Even MJ had off days. The home runs make the strike outs worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:46 PM
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They’re not entitled to it, but if a $10 drink is the dating requirement needed to potentially get laid or find a girlfriend, who cares? Why be so cheap?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:57 AM
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Then it’s possible that you surround yourself with LBHs. I’ve been to SEA twice with two different buddies. All three of us are pretty average white guys with some favourable traits. I have green eyes and am pretty lean/ripped. One of my buddies is tall. And the other is probably a bit above average facially. We all cleaned up. Could’ve gone on a date every single night if we wanted to. Casual sex pretty much every other night. At most we bought the girls the drinks (which is a standard practice…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:55 AM
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Using you for a $5 coffee? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:40 AM
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How has dating been for you? Not great probably. We live in a society where men look cheap/broke if they don’t buy the drink. Is it fair in 2026? Not really. But no one cares what’s fair. You gotta play the game to win the prize, even if the game is tedious and you don’t agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:47 AM
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Are you trolling or you can’t read? My advice is to take a woman for a $5 coffee or a $10 drink — not an expensive dinner. But being vocal about being “financially celibate” is pretty retarded and lame and will make a woman dryer than the Sahara Desert.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:24 AM
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It’s crazy how much they do and will try to justify this innate hatred any which way they can. Why can’t they just let men be men be happy (and let the foreign women be happy with greater optionality).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:19 AM
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Why should it be closed? You are against people expanding their options?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:17 AM
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Too fucking right. No one wants to think about this part though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:14 AM
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Imagine a dude asks a girl out for dinner and then when the bill comes claims he’s “financially celibate” and will only pay for his half. That’s how he’s shooting himself in the foot. If you take a girl out for dinner, you should just swallow the bill as being petty about this is just going to ruin your chances at getting laid or whatever you’re seeking. If you kept reading, you’d have seen I said it’s better to go for a drink on a first date. I agree that you shouldn’t have to spend a bunch of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:04 AM
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Damn that’s cruel. I think it’s correct though. I also think it irks them that a dude they consider beneath them is bagging an objectively hotter chic than them. It makes them confront their own value and worth and they don’t like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:57 AM
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The vast majority of PPBs go on vacation for a few months and have casual sex with the local girls. Not all PPBs are trying to get married lol. Local girls like PPBs (not the old fat bald ones but a fit healthy average 25 year old white guy from the west). An average 20-30 year old PPB has these advantages over the local male population: taller bigger dick more masculine/more muscular/wider shoulders white skin/blue eyes wealthier exotic looks a bit like famous actors from popular movies (to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:56 AM
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Inflating the girls appearance while shitting on the guys. A 7-8 girl is a 10 and a 6-7 guy is “mid”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:39 AM
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I don’t think the red pill is important for the women you date to understand (they already know deep down that appearance and money and status actually are really important to them), and they don’t really like being called liars. It’s better if men just have this knowledge/understanding and then act accordingly in dating. However, from a societal perspective, I think the media should be criticised for how they portray men vs women these days. That’s who needs to acknowledge the red pill a little…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:25 AM
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I agree, it’s important to watch what women actually do instead of listening to what they say (this actually applies to men as well). The problem is that the mainstream is all about believing what women say and showcasing them as these morally superior creatures when they’re just as hormone/instinct driven as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:33 AM
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The topic is about women having massive social/legal benefits/advantages. Feminists claim that men (not women) are the ones that have social/legal benefits/advantages. This comment reveals many examples that demonstrate that feminists are wrong about this. Whether feminists are against conscription or not is irrelevant to this topic, as the claim is that women have it easier than men (which opposes feminist thought), not what feminists want. As for feminists being anti-capitalist… you should rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:28 AM
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Well, you don’t have to. That’s what the Red Pill is for. The Red pill’s main objective is about understanding female nature through observation, shared experience, and evolutionary psychology; then developing the best strategies to proceed in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:18 AM
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This issue is that women claim guys are generally shallow, superficial, objectifying asshole in dating while simultaneously pretending that women essentially only value kindness, humour, and intelligence. And that’s bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:25 AM
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On the whole, both men and women are extremely self-interested and superficial in dating, and we’re biologically wired that way. There isn’t anything necessarily wrong with that, it’s just how we evolved. Only difference is that women claim guys are selfish, shallow assholes while pretending that women aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:06 AM
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I realise now that you must be trolling. Holy shit, you got me 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:20 PM
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No, it’s not. Unless the woman is bisexual. If you’re making such a bold/unbelievable claim — can you provide a source? Even if this is true for women, it’s not true for men. I know plenty of men that have fucked women they’re not attracted to, but they still won’t fuck dudes unless they’re gay/bi. Mate, go pay to have sex with homeless men if that’s such an appealing option. Your argument is so detached from reality and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:10 PM
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Having sex with someone you’re not that attracted to vs. having sex with the gender you’re not attracted is insanely different tf you talking about? 😂 And mate, have you met a homeless man? I don’t think many if any women or men are going to pay for sex with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:38 PM
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Well, firstly, because gay men get laid very easily, so they don’t have to resort to paying for homeless drug addict sex as often — so the market isn’t nearly as big. And more importantly — Prostitution with the sex you’re attracted to =/= prostitution with the sex you’re not attracted to. This should be a given. If ugly women were paying homeless men to fuck them, I bet a lot of them would do it, but there is no market for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:30 PM
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This is really on point. But I think the easiest was to demonstrate why women live life on easy mode is to think about a simple truth bluntly blurted out in a Rick and Morty quote. When talking about Morty’s future and why he needs an education and will have to work really hard in life, Beth argues: “It's not like (Morty is) a girl, he can't just bail on his life and set up shop in someone else's!”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:25 AM
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Society expects men to protect women. The social expectation is that men pay for a first date, women are interested too or they wouldn’t be there (unless they’re using him for dinner which is even worse). If being a prostitute is worse than being homeless, why don’t women also choose to be homeless? Having a choice is better than not having a choice and is still a privilege. I think you’re out of your wits on this one Dependent-Tailer7366. The long list of comments prove that all women (in weste…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:14 AM
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Damn, I wonder what a feminists response to all this is. Probably “NO wHeREs yOuR sOUrCe!?!?”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:05 AM
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I Respect the effort you put into this comment. I see what you’re saying, really — and two or three of those niches are probably pretty effective. But putting on an act and changing your behaviour to attract women is lame if it isn’t actually you. The men who get women are the men who really want women and are willing to shoot their shot. You don’t have to change your personality, you just need to be motivated to get some action. I’m just a normal dude and since getting laid like 13 years ago, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:51 AM
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If you approach fitness the correct way and have good style, you’ll do fine with women either way. But I don’t totally disagree with what you’re saying. I think nichemaxxing is valid, it’s just difficult to pull off. Can you give me like 5 examples of niches you think would attract women? Like I feel like being a gamer/nerd is a bit played out, same with the hipster vibe is like 2016. Goth/dark aesthetic isn’t appropriate for people with a normal job… I’m curious what your take is here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:49 AM
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Being conventionally attractive > nichemaxxed if done correctly > average and boring > below average. But nichemaxxing is kinda difficult to pull off and can come across a disingenuous when you’re just dressing a certain style and behaving a certain way to get with women. That’s why being conventionally attractive is a better option — and it looks good on everyone. Gym, money, clean well fitting clothes, nicely groomed, etc. etc. will have the mass appeal and is probably the best route to take. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:36 AM
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This is called nichemaxxing (hate the names for this kind of shit) and it’s a well established strategy in the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:19 AM
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This just depends on how you define a PPB I guess. But when the Redpill/manosphere is talking about being a PPB they’re talking about my version. No one aspires to be a an old fat bald guy leveraging money for sex in a foreign country. In the manosphere, it’s about leveraging your total SMV to be able to have better dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:42 PM
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You’re ignoring the other reasons a PPB is appealing to foreign women. Depending on the location you choose, a PPB’s SMV increases once he moves/travels as he becomes taller, more masculine, stronger, bigger, more exotic (pale skin and colourful eyes are a beauty standard elsewhere), and yes more wealthy. This of course, is all relative to the male population in that area. I’ve cleaned up when I go overseas because my biggest disadvantage in the west (being a bit shorter than average) is no long…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:20 PM
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If they’re a sex tourist calling themselves a PPB, they’re the same as a guy who fucks hookers and calls himself a real player. Can they describe themselves as such? Yea I guess, but that doesn’t make it true. They’re different by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:40 PM
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I feel like this sub is pretty 50/50 if you look at the posts and ascribe them to being a RP take vs a BP take. There are also some crazy incel takes and crazy feminist takes. As such, I stand by my initial comment — there is crazy on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:22 AM
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Tbf, the women are just as crazy as the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:39 AM
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I just meant it as a common phrase. Like, if they don’t mind… it won’t hurt your chances or impact the date. That would be the implied rest of the sentence. Same with the car example — if a girl asks me on a date and I say “yeah, I don’t have a car but I’d still like to meet up with you if you don’t mind”. That’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:46 AM
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Wasn’t trying to argue with you there mate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:40 AM
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Fair enough. If you look good enough without it or your date doesn’t mind.. who needs it. I hate kissing lipstick (also think lipstick doesn’t make women look better), I’ve never had an issue with foundation though, except maybe getting some on my shirt
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:33 AM
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And gay men can be pedophiles. The only important part is the abnormal sexual attraction aspect. *just showing you how stupid your logic is. If you don’t understand the difference between a PPB and a sex tourist, then you shouldn’t see the difference between a player who sleeps with a lot of women vs. a guy who bangs hookers and calls himself a real “lady’s man”.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:25 AM
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I agree that there’s a big difference between buying a drink vs funding a lifestyle. But if you’re funding a lifestyle, you’re a sugar daddy overseas, not a PPB.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:14 AM
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It’s not unfair, and it’s more strange than petty. Like, that attitude just cannot be helpful, I agree with you there. However, a much better practice for men would be to still pay for the first date — but to only go for a drink on the first date (alcoholic or coffee). Spending 1.5 hours and potentially like $100 dollars on a dinner date with someone you don’t even know you’ll like is the issue here. If a woman demands a dinner date then she’s the one being unreasonable, and you should just move…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:58 AM
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A very reasonable take here. Men doing this are probably shooting themselves in the foot and ruining their chances at getting laid or getting a girlfriend over like $40 on a first date. If a man has a high enough SMV to do this kind of thing and women still want to fuck/date them, then who cares? It’s not hurting anyone. A Better rule of thumb (and without getting petty) is to just have a standard rule that date 1 is always just a drink first (alcoholic or coffee). Committing to 1.5 hours and ~$…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:47 AM
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What an odd example. Not owning a car does not prevent you from casual dating or even getting into a relationship. During times travelling abroad, I’ve gone on heaps of dates and gotten laid a ton of times without having a car — it’s basically an advantage because you can always drink on the date and don’t have to worry about driving after. I’ve also had stretches of times in my life where I haven’t had a car and just used my girlfriend’s vehicle to drive us around. Dumb example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:37 AM
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If it was everyone for themselves in disaster situations and men were just looking out for themselves, it would lead to more women and children dying in those situations (and more overall death). The logic is that more men would be capable of getting out of a dangerous situation (which is likely true due to physical advantages) so we should prioritise getting the women and children out first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:23 PM
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Yeah, I’ll concede that does sound slightly worse off than the average man on tinder. I’m sorry dating is hard for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:01 PM
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Roughly 40% of all new relationships began through a dating app (by far the largest avenue). Telling men to further limit dating options will result in them being even less likely to get into a relationship. The fact that we’re having a disagreement about this at all shows that it really isn’t that simple. Most men aren’t perceived as being attractive & many women are worried they’re only being pursued for sex or merely because they’re attractive; Many men struggle with finding a woman to date t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:33 PM
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I’m curious, as a self-identified land whale, how many likes/matches do you get per week on a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:21 PM
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What sub are you posting on mate? It’s meant to be a debate/discussion platform between redpill and bluepill. When incels post crazy shit like this, people start associating this crap with the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:19 AM
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The crazy incel ideology is genuinely insane. That’s not what redpill is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:59 AM
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Sounds like you’re just trying to annoy me now. Weird way of trolling but okay. Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:55 AM
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It’s a term of phrase mate. I’m not making a moral judgement about the relationship — it’s just basic English. The fact that you’re being this obtuse makes me think you’re just trying to provoke a reaction. Maybe you’re a troll, maybe not, but I’m losing interest in this pointless disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:49 AM
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A relationship “failing” refers to it ending in a break up… Ah you’re trolling. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:03 AM
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An average man will get rejected on a dating app by 95%+ of women. Only 35% of first dates lead to a second date — even fewer will lead to a third date and beyond. Around 75-85% of all romantic relationships fail. Around 40-50% of marriages end in divorce. Of the marriages that remain, many are unhappy but just unwilling to leave. I think the number speak for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:26 AM
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Attracting, dating, and maintaining a healthy relationship are actually extremely complex topics and you can get things so wrong so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:52 AM
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“A nice pretty, girl who’s nice to him and basically smart, that is all your friends, that is everyone you know.” No it is not. Most women aren’t that nice — especially at that age. Most aren’t pretty (I’d wager around 20-40% depending on location are conventionally attractive at 25). Most have close to an average IQ (not sure if the qualifies as being ‘basically smart’). It’s possible your friend group are all former high school cheerleaders going to Brown and you perceive them as nice because …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:43 PM
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Nail on the head. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:05 PM
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This is one of the weirdest takes of all time. How sad and lonely do you have to be to come up with this nonsense. Also, you can be extremely poor and still have sex with a hooker for like $100 or less in some places. But like, why would you want to? “The greatest joy in life is fucking a woman who wants to fuck you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:01 AM
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How do you know that it was his first girlfriend? That they never had sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:56 AM
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RP ideology isn’t about hating women, it’s about understanding female nature and being able to predict dating behaviour based off observations across different cultures around the globe. If understanding women makes you hate them, that’s on you. To me, I don’t view women better or worse than men — I think it’s clear we’re all just animals ruled by our hormones which create subconscious goals in surviving and reproducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:45 AM
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I’m curious, what line of work are you in? I feel like few careers are spiritually fulfilling these days. I’m in a respected profession, and I still wouldn’t describe it as fulfilling. I just want to make a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:49 AM
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Wow, you seem extremely reasonable. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:42 AM
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Nah, it’s not necessarily reflective of the guy (though he may also suck at sex). Some women are of course quite good at sex and freaky, but the vast majority kinda do just lay there or hold the doggy position and don’t give great head. Sometimes it’s a chemistry issue, but I think it’s mostly just that women don’t really need to be good at sex and there isn’t all that much pressure or expectation to be good. Men are also expected to be the leaders and in the dominant role, so it’s just a man’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:38 AM
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Wish more women were like that. Would you have stayed with him if he chose not to go back to work though?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:21 AM
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lol at your user name. You live to stir the pot. Not necessarily, I was just saying every guy I know has been capable of sleeping with at least a handful of women in their teens or early 20s and been able to find a girlfriend by 22. It’s not some impossible task reserved for Chad. But if you’re 20 and a virgin it’s chill, that doesn’t make you an incel as long as you’re not coping online like a bitch. I just find the incel lingo and attitude to be beyond lame. Whiny ass losers. If they are truly…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:10 AM
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You seem level headed, not bitter at all, and totally normal :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:56 PM
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They were all over the place, some were pretty specific and a lot were general like mine. I think the major difference was that mine were (other than the first point) “don’t be X”. They were said in the negative to give more leeway. Hers were said in the positive like “be tall” instead of “don’t be short” be tall = 6’+ whereas don’t be short = nothing under 5’7”. Or for example don’t be boring does not necessarily = be charming, be exciting, and be spontaneous. So not only did she have way more …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:48 PM
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Saying that her mindset may not be healthy and advocating for a break from reddit may be of interest to her is (unsolicited) advice, not a personal attack. I’ll edit my comment to say “you seem” wound up instead of stating that she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:44 PM
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Mate, maybe take a breather off reddit for while. You know, sit the next couple rounds out. You’re wound up and irrational. I don’t think this is healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:16 PM
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One of your main points was that women’s standards were not actually that high. Having 100 points you’re looking for in a partner isn’t high standards? Compared to 7? Another one of your points was that men are just as picky as women — this anecdote refutes that and is a perfect example of why your post is utter nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:47 PM
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My girlfriend showed me a journal entry listing everything she was hoping for in a man (she wrote it well before meeting me). It had over 100 points. We went through each and agreed that I met the threshold for about 95% of them, so they weren’t hard standards but they were very strong preferences with some deal breakers. I had one on my phone notes too before meeting her (copy pasted from the app): Attractive (to me) — not overweight, cute face, no glaring deformities/issues. Not too crazy Does…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:39 PM
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I’m not a Chad. Neither are my friends and they do fine. That’s my point. No one I know is a chad. Very few are betas. I’ve never known an incel (virgin past the age of 20) in real life. My net worth isn’t a million right now (I’ll get there though), not sure what that has to do with this, but I’ve answered it honestly. So, mr millionaire, with all your money, how haven’t you betabuxxed your way to some pussy? Side note: If there is something wrong with you, I do apologise. I’m only now consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:27 AM
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You’ve missed the point. My point is that saying all men are either chads, oofie-doofies, or incels is retarded, lame, and detached from reality. I only brought up bodies because it debunks this little theory of yours. How could an average bloke have casual sex with so many women if all women exclusively fuck Chad? I’m not a Chad, I’m 5’9 with a decent face and good body. I don’t stand out at all in a nightclub and yet, give me a week on tinder and I’ll have a date with a slim, average - cute gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:06 AM
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This loser-ass, quasi-gay, poor-me mentality is annoying and makes modern men look like autistic pussies. If you’re single for all of your 20s and can’t fuck 50+ women, you’re a loser, ugly asf and/or there’s something wrong with you. I’ve fucked maybe 1 chubby chick and a handful of chicks I’m not proud of, but basically 90% of the girls I’ve fucked have been slim and decently cute (the type any straight, normal guy would happily go home with at the bar if she came up and said let’s get out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:48 AM
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A) the actor who plays Hughie is pretty tall and probably did just fine with women even before fame. B) there is a massive middle ground between ultra good looking “chads” and being a “beta”. C) to further the point above, how many friends do you have? How many would you describe as sexy chads vs loser betas? I wouldn’t describe me or any of my buddies as chads, certainly not the perfect symmetry and 6’2+ dude incels jerk off to, and me and my entire friend group has 30+ bodies and multiple rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:24 AM
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You’re coming from a perspective in which you’ll probably always have multiple good options at any given time. I get your perspective and I would be able to just get over it and maintain a friendship too but that because I never struggled with dating. However, Most men do struggle and that makes the issue way worse and string more. It’s like you’re at a loaded thanksgiving dinner table and for whatever reason, you’re not allowed to have mashed potatoes. You can still sit there and enjoy the rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:34 AM
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Rejection is a part of life, but so is moving on. When one has feelings and the other does not, seems like it’s just simpler to seperate amicably. Having feelings for your friend and seeing who they’re dating and talking about it with them is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:50 AM
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I think most people marry for love at first, then slowly begin to resent their partner overtime and stay out of convenience and after realising they’re too old and/or too unattractive to really pursue the type of relationship or partner they’d desire. They just convince themselves it’s out of love. Convenience = security and a higher quality of life for the woman (dual income > single income) and access to some sex rather than no sex for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:02 PM
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I’m genuinely sorry for whatever has made you so resentful and angry. I hope you’re okay mentally and wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:39 PM
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Mate, I’m just asking you a yes or no question. No accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:35 PM
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No you misunderstood. I’m not accusing you of being one, I’m asking if you are. If you’re asking me — no, I do not hate women and I do not view them as morally inferior to men. I think men and women are both equally slaves to their own unique biological/evolutionary traits; however, I think society likes to pretend women are inherently better and that we live in a world that provides massive advantages for women (in the west). And while I don’t think women are worse, I acknowledge the monumental…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:15 PM
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Nah, I’m not calling you a misandrist. Im asking if you are one. Do you hate men and/or view men as morally inferior to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:56 PM
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The guy was not “leveraging protection for pussy”; Leveraging protection for pussy would be “I’ll agree to walk you home for sexual favours”. He was freely going out of his way without any promise of sexual favours or romance and doing her a favour probably hoping spending some extra quality time with her might help build a romantic connection between them. That’s not immoral or a bad faith action — that’s how a relationship can start. If your crush asked you to walk them home, would you do it? …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:40 PM
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I don’t see a popular/upvoted comment calling you a whore here. And while you’re entitled to have that standard, it does kinda fall into a gold digging adjacent category. Are you a misandrist? I think that’s a valid question based off post history. Do you hate men? Not attacking you, just asking. If so, I mean, it’s a kinda fair that you are called what you are. If not, maybe ease up on the “man bad” posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:27 AM
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It’s not “announce it so I can avoid”, it’s “you’re allowed to have those standards” across the board. I haven’t read all the comments but I’ve read the comments with 20+ upvotes and they all say the same thing “that’s fine, do you”. That’s legitimately embarrassing you think this is a win because you allegedly got a few men mad or something. You gotta look at the popular answers to get the true reaction from men in general. Basically everyone agrees when you expected them to be all up in arms m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:38 AM
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What in the world are you talking about?! Hahahaha the five top comments are variations of men saying that having that standard is totally fine and reasonable as long as you’re upfront about it. The TOP comment “if that’s what you want I have no issue with it” and the second most upvoted comment “if a guy has a history of paying for other women and isn’t doing the same for you, you have a point” (paraphrased). Damn that backfired, delete this post while you can 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:30 AM
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You see, it certainly appears that you’re trying to critique the idea (and attempting to point out a hypocrisy) that men don’t like when a woman makes him wait a few dates before sex but that same woman has slept with other men on the first date. But it’s funny because men are basically saying you’re absolutely entitled to have your date payment standard hahahahahah boy that did not go how you thought it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:17 AM
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Does that lie really work though? Telling a girl you haven’t had sex with yet that you see a future with her. That seems laughable in 2025. I’ve had sex on plenty of first dates but I’ve never said some crazy shit like that. In modern times, I’m Pretty sure most women would see that as a massssssive red flag if a dude said some shit like that before even having sex and dating for a few months first. Also, if a dude gets tricked nobody gives a shit. Women won’t care and men will call him a gullib…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:48 AM
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Why is the guy a trash actor? Is he obligated to do an above-and-beyond friendship task indefinitely? Imagine if he did, how do you think a future partner would feel about that? Walking a girl he used to have a crush on home so that she feels protected. Do you think most women would be okay with that indefinitely? Like, honestly, what was he supposed to do? That’s the kind of thing you do for a family member or partner, but generally not a friend except on a once off occasion if they’re blind dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:44 AM
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“Do onto others as you would want them to do onto you” Is she walking him home every other time? Or is she otherwise providing a service for him out of the goodness of her heart? Maybe thanking him bey making him dinner or something for all the time he walks her home? I doubt it. “Do onto others…” is more about not getting in other people’s way or doing them wrong, it’s not an active duty to go out of your way for everyone else. I agree that she doesn’t owe him friendship — But ending a friendsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:39 AM
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You’ve missed the point. She was likely using the guy so she didn’t have to walk home alone and could feel safer and make the walk back home less boring too. And walking a girl home (presumably fairly often), and having to walk back is time-consuming and something male friends wouldn’t expect or do for their other male friends. It’s not our duty to make everyone we’re acquainted with to feel safe at all times and go out of the way to do so. The actual key takeaway: As soon as she could no longer…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:29 PM
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Mate, do you know any PPBs? I’m literally telling you I’ve been one and known many and you’re wrong. They’re not desperate and it isn’t a nefarious ploy to ruin these women’s lives and exploit them. The women have fun too, trust me. Imagine a bunch of foreign dudes 6’4, wider shoulders than average man here, wealthier than the average man , bigger dick than the average here, purple eyes (different than normal) and whatever your ideal skin tone preference is came to your country? That’s the equiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:37 PM
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Mate, do you know any PPBs? I’m literally telling you I’ve been one and known many and you’re wrong. They’re not desperate and it isn’t a nefarious ploy to ruin these women’s lives and exploit them. The women have fun too, trust me. Imagine a bunch of foreign dudes 6’4, wider shoulders than average man here, wealthier than the average man , bigger dick than the average here, purple eyes (different than normal) and whatever your ideal skin tone preference is came to your country? That’s the equiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:35 PM
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Women get with PPBs because they want to, not through money or coercion. Do you know any PPBs in real life? I’ve been one and travelled with a few. I don’t think they call themselves that name, but if you understand that you’re leveraging attraction through relativity (by travelling to a place with less desirable men), you’re a PPB. They aren’t the desperate predators you depict them as, they’re just normal dudes who want to travel and pick a place where it’s also easier to get tinder dates. Som…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:54 PM
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Mate, if you’re paying for sex in another, you’re a sex tourist not a PPB. This is like a man who fucks a bunch of prostitutes and calling him a player/fuckboy. They are different by literal definition. How is this difficult to understand? I mean, it may not even be the sole purpose of the travel, just an added perk. And this is all about how your framing it. “Desperate man Traveling for the sole purpose of getting dick wet” vs. “adventurous young lad exploring the world and seeking romance and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:27 PM
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Sex tourism is about paying for sex where prostitution is legal and/or cheap. PPB/geomaxxer is about increasing relative SMV to increase dating options/casual sex. A PPB/geomaxxer cares about genuine desire and wants to actually attract attractive women. A sex tourist just wants sex and fake validation. They are fundamentally different. But the confusion is a part of why there is a negative stereotype around PPB. Not all PPBs move, most just travel and have some harmless fun with local girls who…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:52 PM
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Yes, they do. China, Japan, South Korea. Those destinations are just less popular because living there or travelling more will cost more and women in those countries don’t have to learn English because their economy is not propelled only by tourism. Also, a wealthy country doesn’t mean there isn’t poverty. You could go to the wealthiest country in the world and still go for poor women. So, it isn’t about that. Again, people (men and women) generally don’t like the idea that you can have better d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:58 PM
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Literally the only thing that assumes you’re white is “pale skin”. And I don’t set the beauty standards mate, women/culture in Asia does that. Not my problem that they find a certain phenotype appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:32 AM
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Yes all of them. The others are what you may be calling “sex tourists” not PPBs. It doesn’t matter if you think it’s insecure, it’s a plausible strategy. I think you are getting it confused, hence the back and forth. In your opinion maybe. But in reality, it’s just a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:29 AM
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Yes all of them. The others are what you may be calling “sex tourists” not PPBs. It doesn’t matter if you think it’s insecure, it’s a plausible strategy. I think you are getting it confused, hence the back and forth. In your opinion maybe. But in reality, it’s just a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:29 AM
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A factor, but not what actually provokes the genuine desire. The genuine desire is what makes a PPB a PPB. If he’s merely paying for sex, he’s a sex tourist. It’s not criticised because of money/exploitation, it’s criticised because people view it as cheating/short cut to artificially enhance your attractiveness. A mail order bride isn’t PPB, that’s a mail order bride. I think you’re just confused on what a PPB is. It’s someone who goes somewhere to increase dating options and have easier access…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:13 AM
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Not true. PPB is criticised because it’s perceived as cheating. Men that aren’t willing to take this measure (as it is inconvenient or implausible to travel to the other side of the world to date) don’t like the fact that other less attractive men can leave and obtain a more attractive partner than them so they demonise it. Women don’t like the idea that men they reject or would make work extremely hard to keep their attention can go elsewhere and get with more attractive women than them so they…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:01 AM
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It does. Japan is wealthy. Also, why do a ton of girls line up to hookup with PPBs that have in their bio “not here for long, not looking for anything serious”? It’s about an increase in genuine desire and attraction. You’re taller, bigger, more muscular, more exotic than the other local men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:21 AM
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Copied a previous response of mine as it applies to this: Money plays a part but you’ve missed about a dozen other points that are just as important. I’ll list a few other things that explain one’s dramatic increase in SMV by travelling overseas. Based on the place you choose: 1. You’ll be taller (relative to the local population); 2. You’ll be bigger/more masculine (relative to the local population); 3. You’ll be physically exotic (blue eyes, light hair, pale skin can be massive beauty standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:57 AM
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No your first point was about money, and I was correcting it by saying that money is merely one of the many factors that leads to the increase in relative SMV. The other one’s actual result in genuine desire too, so downplaying or negating them entirely misses the point of going overseas. You could just buy a prostitute or sugardaddy if that was all a PPB/geomaxxer cared about. You stated that other cultures are misogynistic and that geomaxxers take advantage of that. How so? Then what do you me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:06 AM
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Okay so I debunked your first point, I guess I’ll address the others. Is having traditional gender roles misogynistic or just another way of life? Are you implying that western culture is ethically superior to other non-white/non-European cultures? Please explain. What do you mean by hunting? Do you mean a man that simply wants to have sex with a variety of women? What’s wrong with that? Society seems to think women should be sexually empowered and it’s fine for young women to have multiple part…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:44 AM
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Money plays a part but you’ve missed about a dozen other points that are just as important. I’ll list a few other things that explain one’s dramatic increase in SMV by travelling overseas. Based on the place you choose: 1. You’ll be taller (relative to the local population); 2. You’ll be bigger/more masculine (relative to the local population); 3. You’ll be physically exotic (blue eyes, light hair, pale skin can be massive beauty standards in certain areas); 4. You’ll be culturally exotic and un…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:27 AM
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There’s the major misconception that has so many people confused about passport bros. It’s not about purchasing women — it’s about increasing your relative SMV. If you’re purchasing women, you’re a sex tourist not a geomaxxer/passport bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:15 AM
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Major power imbalances are commonplace in relationships in the west too though. There are rich and poor people here as well . There are couples where one partner is obsessed with the other partner. There are couples where one is significantly more attractive than the other and can leverage that to exploit the other. Major power imbalances are always present in the dating scene. Now let’s try a genuine thought experiment. Imagine the most average passport bro (as depicted by the media). A divorce…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:03 AM
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Blue pill is essentially just mainstream ideology. The most prominent idea: being a kind/good/hardworking/rule-abiding person will lead to good relationships and a good life (usually the focus is on dating, but in general as well). Red pill rejects that idea (and many other similar ideas) based on personal experience. Red pill looks at what gets the desired results vs. what women/blue pill men say leads to relational success. Red pill doesn’t actually view the blue pill/mainstream ideology as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:38 AM
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Her comment stipulates that the man would be a “decidedly not rich” barista. And nah, my numbers are probably about dead on. I’m 5’8, and essentially all the things I listed. I did pretty well on dating apps. 15% being pretty fuckable is still disappointingly low. Fuckable = not obese or overweight (with bad proportions) & not horrible face. Low bar tbh but many women struggle with weight and that’s basically the only thing holding them back from being fuckable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:49 AM
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Possible that she’s imagining an average man as:- - 25-30 years old in great shape (athletic build) attractive face (no major facial flaws, few minor facial flaws) good hairline good style In other words, a 5’9 guy that aside from his height, is far far better than average. And when she says matching with 1000s of women, it means ~80% being low quality (overweight/ugly) and 15% being fuckable and 5% being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:58 AM
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Possible that she’s imagining an “average man” as:- 25-30 years old in great shape (athletic build) attractive face (no major facial flaws, few minor facial flaws) good hairline good style In other words, a 5’9 guy that aside from his height, is far far better than average. And when she says matching with 1000s of women, it means ~80% being low quality (overweight/ugly) and 15% being fuckable and 5% being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:52 AM
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Mate, you don’t need to be an expert to make an observation. This is basically all going over your head and you’re not understanding the nuance of why I’m trying to explain. I’m not saying the world is going to embrace whores and love them for their promiscuous lifestyle. I’m not saying being a slut doesn’t have massive drawbacks (including that most potential romantic partners will filter you out because of your choices). I’m not saying your life isn’t hard and that you’ve never faced discrimin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:17 PM
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Just because you’ve faced mean comments does not mean it’s socially acceptable to berate sluts. I’m sure certain black people have been called the N word by white people in a negative manner, but that does not mean it’s socially acceptable to say that word (especially in a racist/malicious manner). I think you’re missing the point I’m making. I’m not saying everyone is totally okay with women being promiscuous or that no one is racist (as per my example), I’m saying that it’s not the prevailing …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:05 AM
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How do I know: Popular culture and media in the last couple decades or so. This is how we measure society’s general attitude towards something — not through an individual’s (or even a group of individuals’) comments online. Within the last ten years, try to name any TV show or Movie quote where a male character calls a woman a slut or a whore (or even comments on her sexuality in a general sense) and it’s portraying that male character as being anything other than an angry asshole who the show c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:35 PM
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It may not be actively praised for women to have a high body count (although sometimes it actually is implied that it’s “cool” to have a high body count), but society no longer berates you for it — that was OPs point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:36 AM
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But to add to that, I think self-reported data can be incredibly deceptive as well and has many valid restrictions, and may not be indicative of the truth. I think it is only marginally better than anecdotal observations on a topic everyone seems to lie about. I mean, think about it, even you thought I was lying. So, honestly I’m not sure anyone can actually know the truth for this one
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:30 PM
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Yeah could be my frame of reference and social exposure. I’m mainly talking about the dating pool in relatively large cities in western (but not religious) countries because that’s what I’ve been exposed to. It’s possible in these places the average is like 30+ but there any many urban places or religious freaks or anti social people I’m not considering.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:25 PM
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I’m 31. It’s just whenever I chat with a boomer about this topic (like an uncle or family friend), they think 40 is pretty insane but basically my friend group views it as being pretty average. I guess that could be throwing off my perception. But yea, I mean, I guess this is all just anecdotal and my perception. Still, feels like my gen is the most sexually promiscuous of all time
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:56 AM
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Hmm maybe I am wrong about this. But it feels like my 40 is honestly nothing out of the ordinary. I suppose it could be my social circle. But it’s so easy to meet girls now with apps and the apps account for like 75% of the number, cold approach seems pretty terrifying to me (unless drunk) and I can’t imagine doing that to have to get laid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:03 AM
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I disagree. I think people are just romanticising the past and think about weed smoking hippies and free sex for all, but that’s not really a true reflection. Soooooo many of my buddies parents growing up were high school/college sweethearts. And you basically never see that shit today. I don’t know a single person in my circle without 10 bodies except my girlfriend and even she has 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:46 AM
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That’s a misconception. In terms of sheer sexual partners (looking at the AVERAGE not the median/mode), people are having more casual sex now. Things like tinder, “situationships”/lack of commitment, and the rise in cheating are major contributors as to why that is. But I mean, even anecdotally it checks out. I have around 40 and I’m basically on the lower end of my friend group. Like I said, a couple of my buddies are in the 100s. That kind of shit just wasn’t practical without dating apps. Ima…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:42 AM
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But is it not acceptable for the man to have preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 07:34 AM
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Your initial claim was that boomers had more sex and more partners than millennials and Gen Z. The studies show that the opposite is true, that millennials and Gen Z has as much or more sex than past generations. Your claim is incorrect based off the studies you cited in trying to prove your point. In addition to that, I question how reliable self-reported data is, and who is being surveyed. Anecdotally, pretty much every woman I’ve talked to about this has told me they’ve slept with 15+. The fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:21 AM
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That was in reference to your “actually I’m a Gen Z!🙋‍♀️” comment. You think my argument is poor based off of your emotion towards, you don’t want to engage further because you know that it is logically sound. Calling women a slut in 2025 is absolutely taboo. It is prohibited in school, the workplace, and basically every institution. It is frowned upon on the internet and in pop culture whenever a male character calls a woman a slut on tv or movies he’s always positioned as being the bad guy. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:56 AM
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Mature, when you’ve plainly lost the debate just give a hollow retort that ignores that I’m correct. Calling women sluts is taboo. I mean, isn’t that a good thing? Or like do you want it to not be taboo and socially acceptable? Or do you just like the idea of women being perpetual victims? I’m confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:31 AM
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Depends on what the high schooler or employee is calling the male — incel, asshole, or bastard wouldn’t receive the same punishment as faggot to a (presumably gay) male, slut/whore to a female, or n**** to a black person. Certain slurs are different level of taboo. If you called me an asshole, you may get detention in high school or a warning in the office, but you and I both know it isn’t the same. Also, if a woman alludes to her cousin being a player or having a lot of sexual partners at a tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:15 AM
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Did you not read the study you’re trying to use to prove your point? It went from 3 (and top 20% at 7) in 2002 to 4 (and top 20% at 8) in 2013 and tied for the all-time high in 1950-1960 (meaning more sex and sex partners not less). Your claim was that people are having less sex partners and less sex than the past, but the study that you provided refutes that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 02:23 AM
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A) online =/= real life. B) taboo = prohibited/socially unacceptable. If you’re a high school student and call a girl a slut you get suspended. If you call a coworker a whore you get fired. At thanksgiving, if you ask a female cousin her body count, you’ll get a lot of strange looks and people will later say how weird you are. The existence of slut shaming online does not make it not taboo. It is taboo. Even major YouTube channels like fresh and fit get blacklisted and demonetised for slut shami…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 01:55 AM
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Taboo = “prohibited or restricted by social custom.” Meaning there will be ramifications to breaking the ‘rule’. That sentence implies real life scenarios, like if you call a classmate a slut you may get suspended, if you call a coworker a whore, you may lose your job. Also, as far as those online spaces you’re referencing, think about something like fresh and fit (a somewhat popular but totally over the top redpill YouTube channel) — it essentially got blacklisted from YouTube and demonetised f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:53 AM
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Right, but OPs claim was: “it is taboo to slut shame women or ask them their body count in real life.” The first commenter asked “is it?”. The answer is: Yes, it is for anyone under 35, and we know we have to watch what we say. We all know that that is inappropriate and could have major ramifications including losing your career over a comment. Believing promiscuity among women is bad, and having conversations about why one holds that belief online is not taboo nor should it be. But that’s diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:14 AM
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Online is not reality. I see the word incel more than I see the word slut/whore on this sub and online — doesn’t mean women are going up to men in real life and saying “you’re an incel!!!!!” Go touch some grass little one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:57 PM
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I’ve never heard a man call a woman a whore to her face in real life. I’ve heard plenty of women do that to other women though. Not sure about the company you keep around yourself or if you’re just old and from a time men could get away with that type of behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:40 PM
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With boomers, relationships were the norm. With under 30, tinder hookups are the norm. I have several buddies with 100+ body count and I’ve met some with over 400. That shit is basically only viable with something like a dating app. It’s not that boomers never had casual sex, but it’s not comparable to the modern times feast or famine module. And that makes boomers a bit out of touch in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:37 PM
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Is this sub reflective of reality and everyday conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:32 PM
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The study you showed where they clarified sex partners were countering your claim. It shows that men in 2002 reported more sex partners than women and as of 2013 the gap has closed — meaning women have gotten MORE promiscuous not less. It’s literally counter to your claim. I’m not lying, but why are you so hung up on this? Don’t like the idea that RP is actually conductive of getting women? I’ll tell you what, DM me and I’ll sent you a picture of my physique and you can tell me then that you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:20 PM
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That’s an interesting way of admitting I’m right. I’m 30 and in a relationship now this was already explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:08 PM
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ALSO, the results don’t prove any claim you’re making about women being less promiscuous now than before. Harper et al shows the opposite: “Results: In 2002, there were significant differences between men and women in median number of lifetime sex partners with men reporting more lifetime partners. However, in the 2011-2013 data, these differences are no longer significant. Still, the findings suggest that the top 20% and top 5% of men are reporting significantly more lifetime partners than thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:04 PM
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The study’s scope only measures ‘in the last year’ (not the entirety of someone’s 20s) and it’s focussed on the median not the average which is flawed as their will be many women who have been in a committed relationship (meaning a lot of 1’s). Also, where does it compare this cherry-picked approach to boomers? Believe what you want. It’s 39. In a year I spent travelling in my mid twenties I slept with 22 of them. A handful of other one night stands and flings and tinder hookups and 4 relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 10:56 PM
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Absolute nonsense. These studies are talking about relationships not sexual partners. I’ve literally never met a millennial (my generation) under 10 unless they had a high school boyfriend they married. Where in the study do they clarify partner to mean sexual partner and not relational/romantic partner? Technically it’s 39 but 40 has more of a punch. I’m in a long term relationship and career opportunity I had to move halfway across the globe for and literally only discovered reddit like 4 mont…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 10:20 PM
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Dependent-trailer doesn’t understand this basic concept: Woman A has 3 established romantic relationships, and has sex with each of her partners of 1000 times. Woman B has never been in an established romantic relationship, but has had sex with 20 men 10 times. While woman A has been in more relationships and had more overall sex, woman B has still been more promiscuous and had more causal sex. Guys, logic isn’t that hard smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 10:08 PM
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Partner = relationship. Which I agree with. Partner =/= casual sex/hookup/one-night-stand. Read my example again. The example clearly shows how a person can have MORE overall sex in their life and MORE established romantic relationship, but less sexual partners. I can use a real life example too: One of my best mates has had 5 girlfriends in his life, with his most recent being a decade and continuing (basically all of his 20s). He also only has a body count of 8. I’ve had 4 girlfriends in my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:58 PM
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Less sex in general and less long-term relationships — correct. But more people (especially women and socially adjusted/competent men) are also engaging in more casual sex than before. And that’s what OP is getting at. This may help you: A (boomer) woman who has been in a relationship with 4 men and slept with each of them 1000 times (4000 total) and no one else Vs A (gen-z) woman who has only been in on and off flings/situationships, but has slept with 40 men, each of them an average of 10 time…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:06 AM
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“What specifically are men and society willing to sacrifice”…. Then in B) I answered that men built society and uphold it and essentially protect women from worser men. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:33 AM
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Easy, power dynamics and relative SMV. If I’m in a relationship with a fat chick that knows she got a great deal, I subconsciously wouldn’t work as hard to be a good boyfriend because I consciously know I can do better. If I was dating Megan fox, you better believe I’d put everything I had into keeping that woman happy (including all the things I listed above). On some level, you must understand this. Most women don’t, because it’s often subconscious, but the person who feels like they’re settli…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:54 PM
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Read the damn string of comments goofy. That’s the thing about blue pill feminists, yall can’t follow a train of thought before jumping to conclusions without thought. The question I was initially answering was: what sacrifice/contributions have men made to society? My answer: they literally built society and hold the lion share of the responsibility in keeping it running smoothly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:43 PM
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Tell that to my previous (and current) partners. No offence but based on the vibe you give off, I’m nearly certain you’re either overweight or otherwise unattractive. Sex really is only fun if there is a high level of attraction and that’s something you can usually only get if you are attractive and can attract a good looking partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:38 PM
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Can you have children without dating, technically yes? Is that optimal for the child or a route many people take? No You’re also missing my point in this post. The idiot I initially replied to responded to OP by saying, yea well if you don’t like that then just don’t date. Now imagine if a woman made a post about how so many of the guys she sees are emotionally abusive assholes and society is moving more in that direction and I reply “just don’t date them if you don’t like that”. It’s just an id…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:34 PM
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That’s just your very subjective opinion. If you ask a man if he’d rather be dickless, homeless, or jobless - what do you think he’d pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:25 PM
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You’re right and people cannot lower their standards for a home they are to live in. I agree, just be homeless if you don’t like what you can get with your budget. Whiny ass bitches right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:23 PM
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Nearly every great invention ever made was created by a man and society was literally built (infrastructure + governing bodies/systems) by men, I don’t even know how you could deny this? Maybe the dick you get isn’t great, but I’ve had many girls dicknotized before. Sex is fun for women if you’re attractive enough and know what you’re doing. Maybe you’re not attractive enough to get a guy who’s had enough experience to know how to make a woman’s legs shake. (Third point not worth addressing). Ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 11:06 AM
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You can’t read and/or entirely misunderstand everything I’ve said. Forcing people to date was never a part of my argument and the fact that you think that was a point I was making means you’re not even worth a second comment. Whine/cry as much as you want about it, reproduction is more important than housing/wage. Housing/wage issues aren’t putting us at risk of extinction either, but most would consider them important issues that you can just say “dONt lIKe iT, dOnT eNGaGe” and how retarded of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:49 AM
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A) I disagree that sex/procreation is a sacrifice. I’d argue that it’s an honour. Sex is fun for women too and the women I have sex with enjoy it, they don’t feel like they’re falling on a (meat) sword and making a sacrifice lol. I don’t give them anything in return other than their own pleasure which is what both parties should get from the experience. If you view sex differently, you’re picking the wrong partners. Additionally, ask any mother what she’s most proud of or the happiest moment of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:57 AM
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How do you think the human species carries on from one generation to the next? It’s honestly fairly retarded to pretend like dating/mating isn’t essential to the human experience. But I think you’re right — dating/mating is not equivalent to wage/housing/politics — it is far far more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:35 AM
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Actually, dating/mating is objectively far more important than housing/wage to the human species. As a species, we would cease to exist without reproduction. Dating/mating is what leads to reproduction. We survived hundreds of thousands of years without a wage or modern housing infrastructure. We wouldn’t last more than 100 years if reproduction ceased. Also, from a subjective point of view, it’s honestly arguable which is more important. If I conducted a poll for men, I’m not so sure you’d like…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:32 AM
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You’re so simple minded. If you don’t like your options don’t date. If you don’t like minimum wage, don’t work. If you don’t like how expensive homes, be homeless. If you don’t like how expensive groceries are, just don’t eat. As if dating isn’t as essential to the quality of life we have and pretty much as important as getting a wage, living in a home, or eating to the majority of people. Such a small-minded position to boil things down to if you don’t like it, don’t engage with it. How about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:11 AM
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Wow you’ve solved the dating issue with that logic!!!! And the best part is I’ve applied that logic to solve other issues! If you like minimum wage, just don’t work. Solved the minimum wage debate!!!!!! If you don’t like how expensive it is to rent or buy, just be homeless. Solved the affordable housing crisis! If you don’t like trump, just ignore him! It’s so simple guys! (That last one is actually unironically kind of true lol). Wow, with this simple ingenious way of thinking, we can solve all…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:04 AM
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Exactly. These women need to (and they eventually do) just settle for a suboptimal option that they’ll regret marrying or not date at all until they’re 37 and desperate to find someone to have a family with. Standards aren’t important and women should have less standards and not prioritise who they’re attracted to but rather the men who have the traits they’re looking for. We shouldn’t tell men to be better to women we should tell them to be more attractive so they can treat them like shit too. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:54 PM
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In principle, sure it would be great if men got to choose to be stay at home fathers — but in reality that isn’t a choice. If a man openly expresses he wants to be a stay at home father his dating options would be practically non-existent. He’d much more likely end up homeless than succeed at finding a woman to just provide for him for his entire life. In society in 2025, women get that choice and men don’t. Hence, women want to eat their cake and have it too. Women already have an advantage and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:43 PM
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Yeah but this is exactly like the argument in which women want an attentive and loyal man who treats them like a princess. The issue is the vast majority of men who would be loyal till death for that woman and love her unconditionally and give her everything she ever could desire from an emotional standpoint are usually less desirable than her. They are typically the guys she doesn’t want, even though they have the traits she’s seeking. How do you think women react when you tell them they can ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 11:26 PM
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A good point. Contrary to what most believe, RP is also a huge proponent of personality mattering, just in a vastly different way than BP. When a red-pill person claims “personality matters” it primarily means confidence, charm, humour, having goals and ambition, having productive hobbies, social skills, fun to be around etc. This requires genetics, experience, drive; it’s who that man became - a competent man. Most have to build these skills/traits through repetition and observation. When blue-…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 10:18 AM
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lol perfectly shows how retarded his comment is. Well done. The only difference is that the cliche male hobbies are a bit more substantive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:10 AM
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I mean… I’m not of the opinion that “men age like wine and women age like milk” or whatever, but saying the reverse of that is a pretty hot take as well. Individuals into health and fitness age the best regardless of gender — and most gyms seem to be pretty 50/50 to me. Unless you’re talking about loading on a shit ton of makeup and cosmetic surgery. In that case, women are sometimes able to look a bit better at 35-40. Also, male pattern baldness is the grim reaper of men’s looks lol so that pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:52 AM
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What’s crazy is if you go to a club or bar in Thailand and look at the westerners, while there will be some LBHs there (60yo sex tourists), it’s mostly the same demographic you’d see anywhere in the west. Somewhat good looking or average men in their twenties or thirties. The only difference is that they’re able to take 1-2 girls home per night rather than 1 per month. PPB/geomaxxers aren’t losers that can’t get anything back home, they’ve just discovered how relativity works and how you can use…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:26 AM
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I’ve been one myself for periods of time, and I’ve literally seen hundreds of them while traveling in SEA. From Europe, USA, Australia, Canada, and Russia. They’re usually 20s or 30s and average looking absolutely kill it in SEA. You’re confusing passport bros with 60 year old divorced ex pats that go to Thailand for sex tourism (which is entirely different). They know they’re too old and gross to be an actual passport bro. People always confuse these demographics so I understand your misunderst…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:11 AM
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60+ year old, fat, bald, losers beta bux — sure. But honestly, most of the rest of the guys just are dramatically increasing their overall SMV. I’ll illustrate:- A 5’9, 6inch, 165 pound, 65k salary white male with an average body (not fat or slim) and average face (so basically the most average white American you can imagine) gains points in each one of those categories due to the Asian male population and what women consider average in SEA. Due to relativity and averages- 5’9 turns into how wes…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:53 AM
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He means socially and in popular media. Not on reddit forum that talks about gender lol. And he’s right, literally no one other than people in this sub criticise women for geomaxxing or even think about it. Whereas if you say passport bro at thanksgiving dinner even most of the older generations will know exactly what you’re talking about and all be imagining a man doing it - not a woman. Even in super popular shows like the white lotus they dedicate an entire scene to making fun of LBHs (losers…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:48 AM
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Anyone who thinks passport bros are predators is such an idiot. In reality, they’re either the way out (as you’ve alluded to), and they’re actually the ones being taken advantage of (used for money/visa) OR (and this one really pisses women off), the passport bro just has a higher relative SMV in Asia and cute girls actually enjoy casual sex with/relationships with average/slightly above average westerners. Oh the horror
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:36 AM
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This is why hinge can be great for opening a woman’s eyes (and also why hinge is the most successful). It compiles data and ranks you in terms of how the other sex is responding to you. As such, hinge is much more likely to be showing you people in your own league. That’s why it’s funny whenever an average girl says hinge sucks cause it’s only ugly dudes on hinge 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:32 AM
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You only think you see that dynamic everyday, but in reality, you’re likely just undervaluing the mans overall SMV or overestimating how attractive the woman is (probably a bit of both). Even in your example of the gorgeous guy and plain woman, you’re probably underestimating the woman out of subconscious jealousy or you just don’t understand her appeal or maybe the guy is just your ideal type and you’ve overestimated him. Being objective, people are often fairly even with their partner when it …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:12 AM
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When a red-pill person claims “personality matters” it primarily means confidence, charm, humour, having goals and ambition, social skills, fun to be around etc. This requires genetics, experience, drive; it’s who that man became - a competent man. Most have to build these skills/traits through repetition and observation. When blue-billers/(most) women claim “personality matters” it primarily means being genuinely kind, very sweet, having hobbies, thoughtful, polite etc. This requires a good mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:53 AM
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Well, as with essentially any legal/policy oriented question, the answer is: It depends. As for the consent part, most countries have extremely specific legislation regarding rape, but most include that consent must be continuous. As for where prostitution is legal, whoever is regulating that, be it the government or just a specific establishment, they would likely make the policy for refunds or this type of situation. As I said, it will depend on the jurisdictions laws on consent and the establ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 05:38 AM
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This is legally incorrect in nearly any place that has legalised sex work. So, you’re just flat out wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:44 AM
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I mean, I don’t exactly have any experience with a sex worker, but if an escort wants you to stop I think you have to or it may qualify as being SA. As for the money, I suppose a refund or partial refund would be fine. How’s that problematic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:43 AM
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“Give up nearly 100,000 hours of your life for an employer or starve/go homeless” same shit different toilet. To live, eat, and be sheltered, you must sacrifice something either way. The vast majority of jobs have massive downsides - even good careers. Yet, we must all make choices and are responsible for those choices. Sex work is contractually not really different than any other kind of employment — a service/good is provided for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:35 AM
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A “Fundamental human right” is just an abstract construct. One may say freedom is a fundamental human right and people regularly give up their freedom for money too by working for ~8+ hours a day, ~5 days a week, ~50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:45 AM
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How does sex work muddy the concept of consent? It’s an agreement between two parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:46 AM
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Women are competing, but have an abundance of choice and safety net to fall back on (plan B guy, plan C guy etc.) and are socially enabled to artificially enhance their SMV, which was her point. In other words, women are competing on easy mode, whereas most men are competing on hard mode. It’s like playing a video game on its easiest setting vs its most difficult setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:53 PM
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Damn, I respect the brutal honesty. An actual woman admitting that women live life on easy mode and can get away with many things men cannot. Feminists would hate you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:25 AM
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It’s 2 clowns mocking some other clowns. This isn’t the slam dunk you think it is. It’s as cringe as when a dude has a clever retort to a 18 year old feminist on and college campus and thinks he has disproven the whole theory 😂 you’re honestly so goofy. Now if you’ve been trolling — this was a true masterclass and I applaud you. But I suspect that you’re either a woman pretending to be a man or gay (not to offend you, it’s just the vibes of your answers are very feminine). We’re talking from two…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:10 AM
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Keep crying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:54 PM
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You’re a silly fella. Okay, whatever you say strange angry argumentative little man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:34 PM
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I have no clue who they are. Dr David Buss, Dr Orion taraban, Michael sartain, Austin Dunham, and several other fitness and looks max influencers that lean RP are my main RP influences. Guys with credentials and/or walk what they talk. Not goofy clowns that hate on women, men who seek to understand women better by having conversations about common/general observable behaviours
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:18 PM
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I don’t even know who those guys are dude — sounds like you’re more into RP than me 😂 I don’t watch lame shit that is about bragging, boasting and shitting on women. Maybe you’re so hateful towards RP because you don’t engage with the content creators that have honest and fair discussions about female psychology, sexual strategy and things that are actually helpful. There are doctors, lawyers, fitness gurus, and guys with PHDs that talk about this stuff. Again, I understand your perspective and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:16 PM
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Over 40 women, 4 LTRs but sure I’m lying mate and have no clue what I’m talking about. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:01 PM
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To be fair, it’s about both. Although not entirely accurate, there is something to this quote: “Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:53 PM
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Show me exactly where I said “that’s not true, you’re wrong!” We’ve disagreed with each other, so if I’ve been saying that — you’ve been saying that right back at me mate. You’ve literally been saying I’m not understanding the difference between objectifying and sexualising, whereas I’m telling you I believe our disagreement comes from a generational gap and because I’ve noticed that the same things I do with women I get away with, whereas if my friend does something he ma get considered creepy …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:39 PM
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Try Saturday morning 730am on the tready after already having sex with my gorgeous girlfriend. The whole RPers struggle is such cope mate. Almost every dude who is really good with women is RP, they just don’t know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:30 PM
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Mate I’ve never struggled with women. But I realise they only like my attention because I’m fairly attractive. The difference between what you’re claiming to be objectifying vs sexualising isn’t merely behaviour — it’s how you’re perceived by the women getting your attention. If you don’t see that you’re living in a bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:24 PM
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lol I think you’re the one that doesn’t have a clue mate or you’re just from a dated generation where men were actually pretty shit towards women. No one says shit like that to women from my generation. It’s almost always old men living in the past Also, the difference between a girl liking being “admired” and feeling uncomfortable because a creep is staring at her is primarily about how attractive the dude looking is. Exhibit A is your meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:17 PM
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Staring isn’t objectifying, it’d be closer to sexualising according to your definitions. Also, saying something thirsty or even cat-calling is closer to harassment than objectifying. And if you actually look at the comments, it’s like mostly bots foreigners and a lot of older men (gen x and boomers judging from their stupid truck selfies).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 10:46 PM
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Maybe the disconnect is a generational thing. I don’t think any of my friends or really any of the guys I’ve met in my life look at a girl and think “I want to rape her” or “I deserve her” or “she is an object” ….. but all my straight male friends will say things like “she’s super hot” or even “she’s pretty but she doesn’t got much else going on for her” The way you’re defining objectifying doesn’t really exist in the younger generations. I feel like that’s a boomer thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 08:28 PM
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Well you’d still be viewing her as a possibly viable sexual pursuit, or you’re appreciating her almost entirely for the sexual attraction she inspires in you, so it extends past admiring. And honestly, I don’t really see a problem with that. If I walked by on the beach without my shirt and a woman thought I was super hot and liked my abs and didn’t care about my personality and had fantasies about me, I wouldn’t really care so long as she didn’t interfere with me in any way I didn’t like. But sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:49 AM
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Admiring without lust isn’t sexualising — it’s admiring. And despite what your religion may spout, desire and moderate amounts of lust are a part of the human condition and perfectly normal. Also, thinking about having sex with someone isn’t a sin — trying to have sex with them without their consent is. There is nothing wrong with having a sex drive and appreciating people you find attractive (even in passing). It’s normal to have fantasies — both men and women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 02:34 AM
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Sexualising and objectifying are essentially the same thing in this context. You can be in awe of Megan fox in transformers, desire badly to have a woman like that, and it can propel you into the world of sexual attraction— but still not want to rape her or be outright disrespectful to her
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 01:50 AM
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I mean, I don’t really think that is the case unless she’s had many partners (I do know several women who have not been cheated on and have basically been with only one or two men in their life). And any man who has had a lot of girlfriends has also likely to have been cheated on. I believe that women are just better at not getting caught and men are more likely to be caught. I also think a woman who believes she’s been cheated on will tell people he cheated and that’s why she left without actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:35 PM
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Pockets of Europe are probably pretty different. Most girls on my social I was either friends with a long time ago from working at a restaurant or girls I’ve dated casually. Vanity is pretty big in all the places I’ve lived especially amongst young women. Tbf, on instagram it is mostly pics/vids on vacation and other ways people make their life seem cool, but on the more text heavy side of social media is where you see the pretty girl shit talk attitude like what OP was quoting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:47 PM
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I mean, I have people on my instagram feed from USA Canada Europe and Australia so pretty good representation of the west. If you’re from a developing country or perhaps the Middle East I suppose it could be different though. And it’s not all quotes, it’s mostly the things you’ve listed on Instagram but there’s also a touch of that sentiment from time to time in their stories. Twitter and threads are basically all just words so I’m not really sure what you’re talking about unless you just have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:25 PM
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This is such a cop out answer. My feed is 99% sports related posts and some funny memes because that’s all I interact with and I still see women (real life women I know in person) post or share or make some story with a quote like this all the time (not the exact quote but something with the same essential points). If you don’t see anything like this, you’re either barely ever on social media or you’re lying. This attitude is deeply ingrained in western culture in 2025. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:12 PM
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I use my fingers too. Meh, based what I’ve personally experienced, I’ll agree to disagree with you on this. I still think having 5+ inches with some girth is important for the vast majority of straight women and no offence, but you’re talking about a demographic of women I’m not talking about, so that’s likely the cause of our disagreement
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:02 PM
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Fair, but I don’t think it would be dumb if it benefits men and women and helps to address a growing issue in the western world that is clearly getting more and more prominent and potential more problematic — too many young men very unhappy and unfulfilled is a recipe for disaster. I don’t think public facilities is the answer. It would need to be something that truly incentives men. And free (or heavily subsidised) [insert here] would do the trick. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:59 PM
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Yea but I’m talking about straight women and you’re talking about gay/bisexual women. Idk I feel like I’ve been with enough to know. And I kinda like using my mouth and have done so pretty often with the majority of women I’ve been with so I feel like the pattern I’ve noticed is legitimate even if it’s anecdotal. Some women don’t even want to be eaten out, kinda weird
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:44 PM
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Interesting if true. Still, my latter point stands. Almost every girl I’ve been with prefers finishing through penetration. I wish it wasn’t like that because it would be easier to just make a girl finish with your mouth then have sex after to take the pressure out of it sometimes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:37 PM
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While it is true that men and women are very very different, I feel like there is enough evidence that size is relatively important. I mean, think about dildo size. And as you’re looking at it from a lesbian or bisexual viewpoint, your view may not reflect the majority of women’s view on the matter. It’s probably easier to make a girl finish with your tongue than a penis either way, but most women I’ve been with heavily prefer finishing through penetration. It’s pretty difficult to make a girl c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:30 PM
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Maybe. I think there are dozens, if not hundreds, of worse ways the government spends tax payer dollars. Also, note that it could apply to things like the gym and probably some other health adjacent areas — so it would simultaneously create a healthier society. And it wouldn’t just benefit men. You know who hates that there are more unattractive men than women? Women. I’d argue that women may actually derive more benefit from the funding than the actual men themselves do because it would create …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:24 PM
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A good analogy. However, it’s still probably a good indicator that many women do care to a degree. I think when men swoon over Alexandra daddario or Sydney Sweeney, it does indicate that many many men appreciate larger breasts. The difference is that men just kind of admit its an asset and openly admit that they prefer larger over smaller (even though there is a minority that do truly prefer smaller boobs), whereas generally most women will kind of say “it doesn’t matter at all”. IMO I think it …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:07 PM
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This is such a cop out answer. My feed is 99% sports related posts and some funny memes because that’s all I interact with and I still see women (real life women I know in person) post or share or make some story with a quote like this all the time (not the exact quote but something with the same essential points). If you don’t see anything like this, you’re either barely ever on social media or you’re lying. This attitude is deeply ingrained in western culture in 2025. Nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:51 PM
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Do you think the first point is problematic? I think the second one is all fluff without something tangible to actually help men (funding). Both work together in actually encouraging men to put as much effort as women put into their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:03 PM
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I unironically believe there is reasonable solution to this. I think it’s possible to help level the playing field by helping men increase their attractiveness. I think it would take a double edged approach: ——— 1. Government funding that men could apply for on things that increase attractiveness (hair transplants, certain cosmetic procedures, possibly even for things like gym memberships. If these kinds of things became more affordable I believe it would incentivise men to actually pursue them …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:49 PM
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You have to be trolling. Like, how do you think ‘studies’ measure cheating… online surveys. That’s the true evidence example you keep pointing to for yourself and it doesn’t even meet your own threshold of being strong enough evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:15 PM
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The stat isn’t biased — it’s fine to say on its own, but then everything after you say can be problematic. For example, this is a true stat with problematic framing after the fact: “women are more likely to initiate no-fault divorce (true fact), so why do women always have to break up a family and destroy other people’s lives and take their loving husbands money!?” That’s the kind of argument I see a lot in your posts. Do you understand now? Women cheat too — there is some indication that it may…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:10 PM
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Your posts are all biased non-sense steeped in bitterness. Mate, you have like 12 posts I would classify as anti-man. 10 of them have 0 likes and/or got removed. The fact that you get basically zero support from even the women and male feminists on this sub tells me everything you need to know about how you think. If you took your posts to an echo chamber like ask feminists — you’d probably see some support.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:55 PM
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If that’s what you’re doing, how is this post any different? OP is speaking out against problematic statements women make (I’ve seen it too and so have probably anyone else who has social media, so obviously it’s not made up). How does that make this a post about “how evil women are with 0 evidence”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:46 PM
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If that’s what you’re doing, how is this post any different? OP is speaking out against problematic statements women make (I’ve seen it too and so have probably anyone else who has social media, so obviously it’s not made up). How does that make this a post about “how evil women are with 0 evidence”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:45 PM
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You are the discrimination for the female side. Look at your posts mate 😂 you clearly hate men. This sub is equally offensive to both sides. Literally read the posts titles and you can count if something is anti woman anti man or neutral and if you’re unbiased you’ll see it’s even, or maybe in favour of women posting more shit against men. Be objective
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:37 PM
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Also, just looking at your posts — you absolutely post some of the craziest takes deeply steeped in a hatred of men and I’m surprised the mods have let some of your insane takes actually get posted. Most people on the sub are mildly sexist on one side or the other — you’re a misandrist. And I don’t use that word lightly. In fact I don’t know if I’ve ever called anyone it directly. But you have enough “thoughts” and takes that are so blatantly ‘men bad, women good’ that you are unapologetically a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:32 PM
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Your post probably just didn’t conform to extremely narrow rules and framing. There are just as many posts and comments that absolutely shit on men on this sub as there are that may offend some women. It’s honestly a pretty even sub (but yes the mods still do take advantage of their power). This post is just calling out the women that say this type of shit online, and it deserves to get called out. When guys commonly post stupid shit, it also deserves to get called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:26 PM
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Isn’t OP female?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:27 AM
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This is such a sickening post. I despise religion but I’ll pray for you. Seek help
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:25 AM
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Does having that folder make you feel better? ❤️‍🩹 I’m pretty sure there are studies on the halo effect and attractive people getting more attention on dating apps and about a hundred other things which translate to — appearance matters regardless of people saying “it’s all about personality”. I mean, attractiveness is subjective, I’m sure you’re attractive to some, I doubt you’d be attractive in my standards. The women I find attractive wouldn’t be dating a short and ugly dude. You can know man…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:33 AM
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Do you reckon you’re changing many minds about… anything… on here? Widely discussed observations and shared experiences that cross cultures all across the globe by millions (if not billions) of men aren’t feelings. I’m not convinced height is as big of a hindrance as many others are, but if he really was short and unattractive— there is a high likelihood that you are both of those things as well. Yes absolutely. We are all animals and there are thousands of things none of us are consciously awar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:48 AM
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You’re like a feminist who’s trying to challenge a claim like “women tend to prefer taller men” to be edgy 😂 “Where are the studies!?!?” “All my friends date short guys!!!!” Cool dude. Move on to someone else’s post. I don’t have time to find scholarly sources that demonstrate that women complain about it being difficult to find good men. You’re either a really weird troll or a clown. I don’t even care if you wanna report me for this comment. This account getting banned because you got too butt …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:02 AM
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What are you even making such a fuss about? no one else of the 300+ comments has denied that many women say shit like that all the time. This is such a weird and random sidebar, not sure why you’re all worked up about it. It’s in pop culture, music, tv shows, and literally every female friend I’ve ever had has complained about it being difficult to find a good man when they were single. It’s such a weird thing to be hung up on in this discussion mate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 09:54 AM
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Ah, so you’re trolling. Nice one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:50 AM
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You didn’t send anything threads where?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:46 AM
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No no, Go on and try to explain that with your logic? Are me and my friend group just some insane anomaly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:26 AM
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Mate, I don’t know how many times I need to say this — this isn’t about me. Are you trolling lol You’re missing the point so badly and your reading comprehension is so atrocious, I’m getting suspicious
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:04 AM
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Yes I am all those things — except I’m 5’8 so a bit shorter than average. But I’m also, within my friend group, pretty normal/average. And my buddies also have a lot of casual sex. We’re not a group of elite alpha chads, we’re just in our late 20s and early 30s and competent. That’s it. None of us could model, but any of us could be banging a decent looking chick off tinder within a couple weeks if it was life or death and we really wanted too. Your whole argument is Blackpill nonsense normal pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:56 AM
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It’s not about what I do or what’s right. It’s about reality. Also, where are you even getting the “false pretence” narrative from? You can be an honest asshole. “Hey, want to come over and fuck?” … “yea, I’m not really looking for anything serious…” “if you’re not happy with me seeing other women, there’s the door” Being an asshole doesn’t mean being a liar
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:51 AM
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If you’re so frustrated, why do you even want to comment on here? He said it because it’s the unspoken truth/rule. If you have some dude that looks like Wallace Shawn or Steve buscemi… you aren’t going to date him simply because he doesn’t jerk his dick to porn and is oblivious to the redpill. That’s utter bullshit. Within your 6 conditions there are dozens that you’re probably not even consciously aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:46 AM
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Okay so how can I — just a normal somewhat attractive, pretty fit male — have had so much raw physical animalistic sex with so many women purely for our own satisfaction? Am I some rare exception? No, women just like fucking too. Who do they like fucking? Men in or slightly above their own league. The more I settled and banged an overweight chick or something, the more aroused the girl was by the experience and into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:32 AM
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You’re delusional and either asexual or closeted or just more attracted to women. I’ve slept with dozens of women purely for sex — with both of us going into it as a hookup and nothing more. Im not a chad or top 1% man. They had nothing to gain from that experience other than sex and nothing driving it other than arousal. You’re the equivalent of a delusional incel weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:59 AM
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Okay strange person, I think I’m gunna go back to talking to people that aren’t likely autistic 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:40 AM
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Maybe you just live somewhere weird. Relatively attractive men and decent/normal looking guys (when they’re in their 20s) with some attractive traits are very common every place I’ve ever lived. Pretty much just as common as attractive and decent looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:33 AM
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No it’s like telling a straight man, don’t go for a Megan fox lookalike, go for a girl you find kinda cute even if she’s not conventionally attractive or a 8+ out of 10
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:22 AM
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It’s about being realistic. This is just as true for men too. Imagine a man: 27 years old, lives with mom, fairly low wage job, mildly overweight, not conventionally attractive, mediocre social skills, not a total loser but absolutely not a ‘catch’. (This is usually the type of woman making this claim). Now imagine he wants a good looking girlfriend that will clean up after him and take care of him and cook and go 50/50 and be kind and never too crazy etc. etc. Everyone would agree that he needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:53 AM
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This isn’t even close to the point I’m making and I’m not talking about myself. The point I’m making is that people act differently towards different people based on different things. One of those things being — who has the leverage in the relationship. In dating, the person with higher SMV will typically have the leverage. Women do this too. Have you never heard the quote “women set rules for certain men and break those rules for other men”. That’s just a quote but I’ve seen it countless times …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:27 AM
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Fair points and explanation. I’ll retract my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:20 AM
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Martin Luther king jr cheated on his wife — I still would consider him “good”. Your religion is a lie, morality is what we decide it to be. A good act does not wash out the bad, nor a bad act the good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:02 AM
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Good is subjective and relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:56 PM
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I didn’t assume that. In fact, point 1 essentially basically alludes to the opposite — the more out of your league a person your fucking is, the more likely they’re just using you for the moment and still on tinder and fucking who they want and doing what they want. But that’s not just really attractive guys — it’s everyone. Let’s say a guy, a 5/10, might treat a 4 like a last ditch booty call who he wouldn’t even take on a dinner date and a 6 like a queen. How good someone is to the person they…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:50 PM
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Partly. It’s that their own perceived sexual market value has been inflated (because of social media and tinder and other things) and their expectations have also been inflated. They say they just want a good guy, but what they mean is they want an exceptional guy or a man who is significantly higher in SMV and he’s totally devoted to her. And on your last point, I disagree. most young, dating age women are attractive enough to be dating and relationship material — but the degree to which they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:37 PM
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Exactly, it’s usually this (which is my point 1). And it can even happen to men too, if a man is dating a woman better looking than him, he typically will get worse treatment from her than if he dates someone around his same level or lower. This is just how it goes. Only major difference is men intuitively know this and understand the trade off. Whereas Women honestly dont understand what’s going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:52 PM
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I’m not reading all this. I don’t care I’ve already proved you wrong you’re just arguing to argue
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:27 PM
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Mate, just wrong on every single level. I said social media but I was referring mostly to reddit. Particularly on this sub and others like it. It has nothing to do with my media stream (insta/twitter/tiktok) — reddit is social media too. ❌ This is literally a common trope. You know — “where have all the good men gone” is a song lyric… it’s a common theme pretty much everywhere and you’re being extremely obtuse if you think women friend groups everywhere on the planet don’t talk about “how diffic…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:05 PM
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Actually it is a sign that it’s relatively common — whether or not it’s as common as we may be led to believe is the question you’re trying to get at.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 09:32 AM
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I said that in my first point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 07:25 AM
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I never claimed they exclusively want 6/6/6, you don’t need to be that to be out of many women’s league. An attractive enough face alone will do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:57 AM
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You seem a bit too invested in your roommate and her partners. I don’t remember a single substantial trait of my previous roommates partners other than what some of them looked like. Tbf, You weren’t the one in the relationship and you can’t be sure what she was doing or saying to them in text and behind closed doors. All you have is her side of the story and to a certain extent things that transpired in your main living area. Maybe they were pieces of shit, maybe not. Maybe your roommate did so…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:26 AM
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You seem reasonable🤥
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 04:11 AM
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Is casual sex revolting when women have it? The manosphere isn’t necessarily sexist — some proponents of it are. Similar to feminism. At its core, it’s not a flawed idea, but it’s been misconstrued and many women extract sexist ideas from the later waves of feminism. But I’ve dated feminists and I consider myself pretty red pilled. We didn’t always agree with each other but we still had chemistry and had fun together.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 04:08 AM
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lol there are literally millions of men just like that that. Like, I’d argue pretty much most men who have slept with 1-5 women would be very likely to fall into the other categories by default. Heavy alcohol users will likely have slept with more women, and guys who either dont get any women or actively sleep with a lot of women usually end up in the manosphere space. If you’re capable of sleeping with a few women, you’re probably not obese or autistic and reasonably kind. Your standards aren’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:59 AM
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What are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:48 AM
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Surface level retort on one statistic without evaluating why men may tend to be more violent and/or, if a man’s violence is just more serious than a woman’s violence and that’s why it’s recorded higher on statistics. Like I’ve personally been assaulted by 3 women in my life and 1 man. It’s anecdotal, but the only one I even considered reporting was the 1 time a guy attacked me. This is Like me saying: “nO, wOMen wOrSE! cUz 80% of DIvOrce initiated by women”. You need to think critically about wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:12 AM
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This logic assumes that there are more ‘good’ women than ‘good’ men, which is both subjective and sexist. Men and women are very different and what makes a man good vs what makes a woman good is also different, there’s no question about that — but to say one is better than the other is problematic. We have different biologies, different goals, different ways to perceive things and are pumped full of two opposite hormones. The whole “there aren’t enough good men” claim is just as lazy and untrue …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:20 AM
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Absolutely, they can. However, when men vent about dating issues online, it’s usually about not being able to find any girl. The majority of men know they don’t have the luxury of being picky and generally, I do think most men are slightly more reasonable about who they can attract. And to be really blunt, many, many men only really have standards for appearance— not dozens of things that make up a ‘good woman’
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:06 AM
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Okay, point taken. But I will retort. I’m not sure if you’re actually well-versed in the core ideas of it, but what do you think about redpill philosophy? Of course, just like with feminism, there are many bitter and delusional followers (and you see many of them on this sub). But as you stated, every group will have its bad apples. Do you think people should maintain a reasonable approach to redpill and actually try to understand the perspective it illuminates without dismissing it as misogynis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:08 AM
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Perhaps not feminism, rather a few bad actors that called themselves ‘feminists’ or labelled themselves as such. In addition to capitalism also using the movement to increase productivity, efficiency, and profits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:51 AM
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Working may build character, but it can also just burn someone out and make them more jaded and lazy in the other elements of their life. One of my exes was an amazing girlfriend when I was supporting her, and super lethargic and moody when she worked full time. You’re a teacher, which is a rewarding and important job that’s basically constant action (at least when you’re at school), so I think you may be a little bit blind to this but I honestly don’t think the majority of jobs in the current m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:38 AM
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I guess it depends. I’m just getting started in the same field my dad was in, and when I tell him about what I do all day, he just feels sorry for my generation. Most White collar jobs have an insane amount of sifting through emails, editing to make sure the mostly useless information is professionally presented with a perfectly formatted PDF attached. Everything feels a bit hollow, overly structured, too administrative etc. takes up most of the time rather than the few bits that are actually im…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:23 AM
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Ah fair enough. A tough and underpaid job, but emotionally rewarding and important. I feel like the majority of good paying jobs kinda suck in reality: White collar jobs in the current market are repetitive, overly administrative now, and mind numbingly boring and/or pretty stressful. Emails, team meetings, and bullshit from 9-5. Blue collar jobs are tough, dirty, and physically demanding, as they’ve always been. Everything is stricter and more corporate. I think the job market is pretty depress…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:08 AM
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What kind of work are you in?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:45 AM
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Posted this in a comment thread that would stem too far down for anyone to read but the point deserves some light, because it’s the fundamental flaw with this arrangement, and just hasn’t been articulated correctly. This theory/way of thinking is almost entirely the same as a lonely man who visits the same prostitute regularly and deludes himself into thinking it’s a deep and meaningful relationship. The only difference is that you’re exchanging sex (and a tiny bit of companionship) for sex (and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:30 AM
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You’ve completely ignored the part where I said serial monogamy and ENM LTR can be fulfilling and it is different and doesn’t fall in line with “heteronormative bias”. But you’re advocating for something else entirely. Your argument is almost entirely the same as a lonely man who visits a prostitute regularly and deludes himself into thinking it’s a deep and meaningful relationship. The only difference is that you’re exchanging sex (and a tiny bit of companionship) for sex (and a tiny bit of com…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:22 AM
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Low-attachment FWB will not = rich, fulfilling, and deeply meaningful relationship. I meet up to play tennis with some of my partner’s friends every week. We aren’t that close, but we enjoy the tennis we play with each other and are respectful and honest to one another. We do not have a deep/meaningful connection or relationship with each other, we just like playing tennis together and find it convenient as we kind of know each other and don’t want to find different people to play with. This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:50 PM
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My analogy still works because you could frame eating fast food for every meal over a balanced diet as empowering/intentional and an alternative/different approach than what society deems appropriate, and that eating that way makes you happy regardless of the health ramifications. I accept serial monogamy and ENM LTR relationships as potentially fulfilling and worthwhile so am I really just going with the status quo? Forget cringe, forget edgy, forget any other criticism— Your position is just h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:22 PM
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My apology still works because you could frame eating fast food for every meal over a balanced diet as empowering/intentional and an alternative/different approach than what society deems appropriate, and that eating that way makes you happy regardless of the health ramifications. I accept serial monogamy and ENM LTR relationships as potentially fulfilling and worthwhile so am I really just going with the status quo? Forget cringe, forget edgy, forget any other criticism— Your position is just h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:21 PM
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Hmm good take. Noted. I shouldn’t have gone at her like that. To answer the question: The post had a vibe of “men are so shit (stress-inducing/unmanageable) , I only want them to satisfy my sexual urges then piss off and not be attached to them.” She argued it well, but the essence of it was still anti-man, just in a carefully articulated way. At least, that was my perception of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:54 PM
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I don’t care about snark, I got some thick skin and hot takes too. If I post something people may perceive to be anti-women — as this is kinda anti-man/“I don’t need no man” — I expect criticism and I open the door for presumptions to be made about me. For what it’s worth I redacted the accusation in my reply to her comment. But, for fun I’ll ask you this, if a man posted this exact type of thing in reverse, how many women do you think would comment: “wHy dONt yU JuS dAtE meN thEn” or “do men ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:15 PM
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Sure, I’ll redact my presumption. It wasn’t childish, but it was harsh and unproven, so okay, I won’t make any assumptions about you and instead just focus on your general position. IMO your whole position is, at the very least, extremely naive, and at the most cringey, arising from a teen trying to be edgy. And You’re incorrect — I think you can engage in serial monogamy to a degree without it being hollow and you can even have an ENM LTR if that one person is your core person or you’re emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 10:03 PM
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OP definitely is/was FWBs with a high value man that she can’t seem to secure a LTR with and this essay is her insane justification lol. I mean, credit where it’s due, you’ve done an amazing job spinning the narrative and you’re very persuasive/articulate, But — This view is so hollow and unrealistic. And men will use this point of view only to take advantage of you while they fuck a ton of other women or you’re just the side chick while they build real emotional connections with other women. De…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 09:26 PM
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ChatGPT prompt: “hey can you make me a reddit post that details how great it would be to have a society without men.” 99% sure that is exactly what led to this laughable post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 08:38 AM
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Worked for me 🤷‍♂️ Maybe your boy was punching out his weight class
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:59 PM
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So all your other comments were… pointless? Thanks for engaging well only in the last comment apparently. Nah, just done my morning walk, onto the rest of the day, don’t have time to argue all day. Maybe another time 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:57 PM
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I’m not reading this. I wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:46 PM
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Respectfully, I fundamentally disagree with nearly every point you’re making and have made and I don’t think I could convince you otherwise. At this point, I feel like neither of us are adding to the post. Let’s just agree to disagree and I’ll wish you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:45 PM
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Ohhh you were already in a LTR with him? To be fair, this strategy is much better for either only the very beginning of a relationship, or for casual dating or FWB type situation that you anticipate will last only 2-6 months. If you start doing this like months into a LTR, you’re just a weird idiot trying to act cool (and I assume that’s what you perceived him as such). Yes, you can remain focus on your goals and motivated and still reserve your time and be dialled in on your future, but for a L…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:38 PM
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Beards… come… from… stubble… as in, you cannot have a beard, unless you have stubble first… and they both (being that they are the same thing — facial hair) are a product of DHT. The thing that leads to dominant and mature men. Big butts may signal powerful legs, so that still has evolutionary backing, and whether your teeth are crooked or straight, it doesn’t bring about an evolutionary advantage. I’d assume most of our ancestors had crooked teeth. However white vs yellow/black/decaying teeth m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:27 PM
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The millions of men who watch RP content, comment, share their experiences online, guys in real life who say the same shit without even knowing or having ever been exposed to what the RP is. Those men. Sexual strategy isn’t a yes/no or flat/round question though. There are exceptions and nuances. It’s about generalities not absolute truths like the fucking laws of physics or an either yes or no answer. You’re silly for not understanding this but I can help: If you say “it’s hot in Miami”. You’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:15 PM
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If you google “what causes facial hair in men” this is the first thing google comes up with: “Men get facial hair due to androgen hormones, specifically dihydrotestosterone (DHT), which is a derivative of testosterone. This hormonal stimulation causes hair follicles on the face to grow thicker and darker hair after puberty. The evolutionary purpose of beards is thought to be linked to sexual selection, where beards may signal dominance, maturity, and attractiveness to potential mates, and they m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:05 PM
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Extra fat in the hips and breast region on women is attractive likely because it’s associated with fertility and a successful birth (at least from an EP theory — which is likely the best explanation, but cannot be confirmed). However, a small waist is also considered attractive — it’s the golden hip to waist ratio that men find attractive and that has scientific research to support it. There were periods of history (in which food was scarce and starvation was rampant) where fat women were deemed…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:26 PM
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What data are you referring to? What I was talking about was that millions, if not billions, of men across the globe and across different culture have the same experiences and observations when it comes to women/dating/sex. If the RP was cultural or false, how can you explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:05 PM
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Ah okay, so two things that could’ve went wrong there (and maybe even a bit of a mix of both):- He was of too low of a baseline SMV to be using that kind of tactic and/or he was punching way too far above his weight; OR He was not doing it properly. To employ that tactic, you cannot just be cold and distant all the time, it has to be a mix of cold and distant with warm and charming — the sweet and sour approach. For example, on a date you’re outgoing, charming, kind etc. but then over text you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 08:56 PM
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And she’s done it! Disproven a RP/EP theory by calling it retarded. This is scientifically sound and a brilliant take. Wow. Aren’t people on the left/feminists supposed to be against bullying/name-calling. Your hypocrisy is too funny🤣 Access to resources = ability to provide for a child/pregnant woman. In our society it usually means money, but historically it meant a literal access to resources, and as the theory is EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY, it refers to the latter. I’m not the retard for saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:16 AM
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What is dread game?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:01 AM
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Sure. But to explain where he went wrong, I need you to tell me how he was applying the RP. What was he doing that “literally stopped (him) getting laid”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:19 AM
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You were the one that brought it up. But sure: EP claim — women tend to prioritise relationships with men that have access to resources to ensure the wellbeing and future prospects of her children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:13 AM
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Sounds like an issue of application and execution. If you actually follow RP theory and advice correctly, it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:59 AM
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Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:51 AM
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You just dont understand it. It’s not about weird anecdotal exceptions or your specific social circle. It’s about social/gendered phenomena that is observed between interactions of men and women across the globe. Men in different countries with different cultures come to the same conclusion because it is about male and female nature and ingrained in our biology dating patterns/strategies that are often subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:49 AM
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What’s been disproven?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:43 AM
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I think you may be underestimating a young male’s drive to get laid casually and potentially secure a long term partner much more attractive than his options in the west. Additionally, geomaxxing has benefits that extend beyond dating. A 70K USD salary in SEA allows you to live in a tropical paradise like a king. OR if you’re intelligent and conservative, it allows you to save significantly more money in your youth so you can actually afford to buy a house upon returning to your home country. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:40 PM
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I don’t subscribe to the 20% stat. But regardless, I think I can help bridge the misunderstanding here. As certain things become more and more mainstream, it could eventually (if it isn’t already) affect the pool of men you’re interested in. Probably not with sex robots (at least in the near future) or porn; but if geomaxxing and larger age gaps continues to become more socially acceptable — even desirable men will dabble in it. Specifically geomaxxing. Even reasonably attractive and successful …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 10:41 PM
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I mean, I kinda agree with some of what you’re saying. But just try to read body language mate. No need to get political or bitter. It’s not impossible or way too demanding (but it can be complicated). And “mediocre pussy” isn’t that hard to get and it’s worth it for just going on a date or two for and enjoying the company of another. It’s better than your hand or wasting away on reddit - trust that. Just look for clues that she’s into you too and when you start kissing, you can usually feel her…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:10 PM
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At the law firm I work at, the partners wives are generally relatively attractive stay-at-home women or in a secretarial/administrative role. Very few successful men I know have equally successful wives in a professional/financial sense. Are they target workers? No, but that’s because when they turn stay-at-home wives with a bachelor degree they seem like they’re in a similar circle as their husband, but that’s just because money, a bit of educational achievement, and connections can make anyone…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:54 PM
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I agree with that, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t complicated. Asking when you shouldn’t have to can absolutely kill a vibe or at the very least make you seem a bit incompetent and socially inept. If you’re horrible at reading body language, consent is a bit tricky — but yeah, obviously err on the side of caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:41 PM
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~90% of consent is body language so it can be complicated for some. It’s pretty easy for me personally, but I imagine as a shy and awkward insecure guy it would probably feel a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:17 AM
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You can absolutely enjoy the company of a person with different interests and hobbies than you. Honestly, most relationships Ive observed have exceptionally few shared hobbies. Having good conversation/sex, similar humour, and great chemistry aren’t shared interests — that’s compatibility. And that matters more than liking the same thing(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:52 AM
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What was the point of this comment? It did not even try to answer OPs question, instead you just gave some pointless information about yourself then criticised one of his sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:33 AM
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First of all, finding a mate and having a family is probably the most significant and rewarding thing a human being can do — so sex and dating is an essential part of life for 99% of people. But I agree that we should be considering other aspects of life as well, and I still think women hold more advantages than men do in 2025 for most aspects. The only aspect I genuinely think favours a boy, is that he would be less likely to experience sexual harassment/SA.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:47 AM
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This account has to be some dude in his parents basement trying to make people hate women by posting outrageous rage bait. Or an overweight, delusional woman with severe mental health issues. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 02:36 AM
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I view being the ‘bad boy’ as more of being extremely self-interested and having a lack of empathy/care for the women you’re seeing, but doing so in a really relaxed, callous, but also kinda charming or cool manner. Like when a girl you’ve been hooking up with for months asks if this is going anywhere, just being bluntly honest and genuinely not really caring about whether or not you’ll see her again. Back when I went through a bit of a phase, I acted like this just because I had a good amount o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 10:26 AM
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It’s not even remotely close to being the same. You think wanting to have a daughter makes you gay? Tf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:03 AM
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I’d say it goes a little bit beyond “not being a complete doormat”. The thing that confirmed RP for me was how when I through a phase of sleeping with a lot of women, generally the less I cared what they thought, the more they wanted to keep seeing/sleeping with me. There was a lot of charm too no doubt, but I truly believe it was the asshole persona that made the difference. Not texting back, not lying but also not telling the truth (about intentions/if I’m seeing other girls), seeing multiple …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:44 AM
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Mate, as a male, if you use the same tactics that feminists/women often use, you just look like a whiny crybaby. Complaining with overdramatic/sensational language only works well for women. Just like a woman can weaponise tears (and this is socially acceptable, but isn’t for men) to get what they want, they can weaponise language (and this is socially acceptable, but isn’t for men) and get away with it. It’s not about honour, really. It’s about pride. Even if crying in public allowed you win an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:10 AM
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All the women fiercely defending their boss/employment, and denying that they’re under his/her control and instruction just shows you how successful capitalism/the powerful have been at hijacking feminist ideals for the benefit of increasing profits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:49 AM
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Fair, and this teacher may have been a misandrist. But the post was talking about female teachers in a general sense, not your specific biology teacher. Many female teachers naturally favour girls, but this is because a young girl may remind that teacher of herself at that age (or something along these lines), not because she hates the male students. I’m just against being overdramatic with the words misogyny and misandry when it’s more often just sexism. It’s language used to further divide us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:22 AM
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The definitions for misandry and misogyny were changed in 2002 to include “or prejudice”, but the general connotation and original meaning is that it comes from a strong disliking/distain of the other sex. A argument that goes “But the feminists started doing it…” doesn’t sway me. You should hold yourself above the standards/argumentative strategies of feminists or you’re just doing the same shit they’re doing. We should aim to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:14 AM
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I wouldn’t say it’s misandry, it’s more like generic sexism, but your points aren’t wrong. Still, jumping to “misandry” or “misogyny” should not be the default when discussing these issues. Both women and men do it in this space and it’s rarely due to some deep hatred of the other sex. I don’t even see the word sexism anymore, just misandry/misogyny. Kinda messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:53 PM
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Self-improvement, understanding female psychology/nature, and figuring out what women actually find attractive vs. what they say they find attractive is what Rep Pill is all about. Obsessing over height, “Chad”, “it’s over” is Black Pill or incel culture, which can be pretty toxic — I agree with that. Comparing these groups is like comparing a feminist who wants equal rights and fair treatment to a feminist who claims “all sexual acts under the patriarchy is r*pe!!!!!!” I’ve found Red Pill conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:11 AM
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I’m not upset. I was asking why anti-male themes have been prominent in modern television and movies for the past decade or so. I was curious and wanted to see if others had picked up on it - which a lot of people have, including my girlfriend who agreed with me which is what made me want to post the thought. My post is asking a simple question, with the most recent example I had, and labelled a discussion. Someone in these comments provided an answer that made sense to me already, so you’re not…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:23 AM
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I’m not triggered. You’re the one downvoting every single comment I make in this exchange out of spite. But yeah, I’m the one the triggered, okay 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:51 PM
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What do you consider dumpster diving? Do you think all women are either “highly desired” 10s or “dumpster” trash (which according to you means overweight or unattractive)? Are you possibly ignoring that the vast majority of women are 5s, 6s, 7s and 8s? Not trash, not elite. You absolutely can have sex with and even sustain a relationship with a cute girl without treating her in a financial sense. I did it all the time in my 20s and I wasn’t even a ‘chad’. I had two relationships where my girl wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:21 AM
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I’m not crying. Really really sounds like you’re the one triggered by my question/observations. Let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:22 AM
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I’m not the victim nor do I want to be. I’m asking a question. Are you projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:17 AM
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Posting questions/observations is what reddit (and this sub) is for mate. Doesn’t mean I’m triggered. If I was triggered, I would’ve boycotted the show like a bitch. I let it go, continued watching, and posted about my thoughts. All pretty reasonable things to do, but be mad about it if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:28 AM
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Ad hominem and incorrect — I’m not triggered. I’m asking a question after making an observation (and that observation has been ongoing throughout many years). Someone else asked, okay let’s assume it’s true, what do we do? And I explained: “Question it, acknowledge it, discuss it, and criticise it — for both entertainment and to exercise the mind. Then move on after the conversation dies out…” I’m chilling, I continued watching it and I don’t have much stake in it, this is just a reddit post, se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:50 AM
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Calm down mate. I got my opinion and you got yours. IMO the male characters are all either weak, feminine, gay, goofy, and/or less competent than the very attractive, intelligent, driven, decisive women characters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:36 AM
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Mate, I’m not being over sensitive, I went on continuing to watch and enjoy the show, it was just something I noted and thought about. Actually ask yourself, could a show get away with saying “there is nothing better than breaking a woman’s spirit” while portraying the character that said it in an empowering and badass way? No fucking way. Be genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:27 AM
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The show portrays him as incompetent at basic tasks, and aside from having a nice house it doesn’t try to make us think of his character as a successful businessman. Ad hominem and incorrect— I’m not upset. I was asked to give more examples and I did. You just disagreed and that’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:21 AM
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RP is just about observing/understanding female psychology and seeing what women actually respond positively to vs what they say they want. Then doing the best you can to have as many of the traits they actually respond positively to as you can. You don’t need to take the RP or even know about its existence to emulate what the RP teaches or be RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:57 AM
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I said “semantics aside”, implying to let’s get at what’s important — “is it right/justified?” Is it hypocritical to view/punish a man worse for hitting a woman than a woman hitting a man? Perhaps, but it’s justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:47 AM
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Semantics aside, we judge the same acts differently based on if it’s a male or female doing it. If a man did the exact same things some women do like take 2-3 hours to get ready, drink super fruity cocktails, used the same language “I can’t even…” (even if he was 100% straight just really feminine), wanted to work part-time to spend more time with the kids, he’s giving the vast majority of normal women an ick. Also, if a man hits a woman as hard as he can vs. a woman hits a man as hard as she ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:34 AM
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Why advocate for body positivity to then for ozempic? Just to keep people confused?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:13 PM
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Holy hell. Haha wild take there mate. Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:57 PM
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Okay, interesting. I’ll bite. Tell me what you really think and where these idea are coming from then. Do you agree with them? What’s your comments overarching point — that these ideas are part of a nefarious group that control the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:47 PM
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I think he’s trying to say that a more progressive society (with women making as much as men) has outgrew outdated social norms that we still abide by (men being expected to pay for things and be the financial leader).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:39 PM
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True, way too abstract for now. It’s the kind of thing that might be plausible in 10-15 years though. Especially after a few more republican-won elections, and people start caring about young men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:30 PM
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Kinda a strange proposition, but one I’ve never even thought about before, and somehow, I can’t see any flaw with it. Everyone in society hates unattractive men — so having significantly less of them would bring about a net good, right? Has anything like this ever been politically proposed or even conceived in an academic sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:16 PM
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State-subsidised cosmetic surgery is unironically a good idea. Benefits men by improving appearance for dating and benefits women by giving them better options. I honestly don’t see a problem with this solution. I doubt a lot of guys would want to take that measure though — cosmetic surgery is still kinda taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:03 PM
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I feel like 4-6 is a pretty reasonable number, but it’s not feast or famine which is what the post was about. To keep up with the analogy, I’d describe it as having a normal appetite and access to enough food to sustain a healthy weight. If you just want to sleep with many girls, 4-6 girls a year is 40-60 by the time you’re 28, and 80-120 by the time you’re 38. That’s plenty of women, I don’t know many guys who would say that’s too low of a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:33 AM
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I’m not so sure disliking is an active state. Back to the analogy, you may ignore the popcorn expressing ‘disinterest’ in it because you tried it and you ‘dislike’ its flavour. You don’t need to be actively eating it to dislike it. Or to elaborate, you express disinterest in kale even though you’ve never tried it because you predict that you will dislike the taste. You may be disinterested in joining a book club because you think you will be bored and dislike it. These concepts seem interconnect…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:21 AM
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Nah, in the stretches I’ve been single through my life (after maybe 18), I’ve probably averaged sleeping with a girl like every 2 or 3 months. So if I was single for a year, maybe like 4-6 girls/year. I’m not crazy attractive but I’m probably not below average either. I would still reject some women and wouldn’t sleep with a girl I found too unattractive. It wasn’t a feast nor was it a famine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:56 AM
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No, it’s not hypocritical. It would only hypocritical if he got mad at women for excluding him for the same reason. But if a woman said “sorry, you’ve slept with too many women for my liking” and he said “okay cool” then it’s not hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 08:48 AM
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Women entering into the workforce = increased productivity. Women having their own income = increased consumerism. Women account for 85% shopping. Both of those combined = massive increase in profits. More nefariously, as women enter into the workforce, employers can get away with paying employees less. The expectation in 1950 — a median salary had to be able to feasibly support a family of 4 and pay off a mortgage. The expectation in 2025 — a median salary does not need to feasibly support a fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:48 AM
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Bingo. This is the answer and this is the downside to feminism. I call it capitalism, but “the elite” is probably just as accurate. The powerful exploited feminism — promoting and encouraging women to enter into the workforce to increase productivity, consumerism, and profits. 60 years later, corporations pay employees ~half the money it takes to support a family because the expectation is that men and women are both working, whereas 60 years ago, employers essentially had to pay an individual a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:33 AM
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Question it, acknowledge it, discuss it, and criticise it — for both entertainment and to exercise the mind. Then move on after the conversation dies out because complaining and whining online doesn’t lead to change or solve anything unless you’re a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:58 AM
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I agree it isn’t comparable. But to be a bit more realistic, I would argue it’s okay for a guy who has slept with 100 women to not want to be with a woman who has slept with 100 men — and that isn’t hypocritical, it’s a preference he’s allowed to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:39 AM
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You don’t really find that anymore and that’s one of the points of my post. Masculine traits = bad in 2025 media unless it’s a female character is doing it. I like the show Wednesday and I like her character. But even from the macro-view and not looking at that one-liner my point stands: Wednesday is written with traditionally masculine traits (courageous, confrontational, emotionally indifferent, cold and calculating, powerful) or gender neutral traits (intelligent, cunning). That’s how most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:28 AM
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I think OP is mostly just venting, and that’s okay. It can be difficult to come to terms with the fact that an average woman is genuinely desired by literally billions of men, but an average man is genuinely desired by orders of magnitude less women. You’re right to question him though, He’s still incorrect, it’s definitely not merely feast of famine. I wouldn’t say I was insanely desirable 10/10 when I was single, but still went on plenty of dates and have had multiple steady relationships with…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:37 AM
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Kind of, but if you’re average or even slightly above average you’re desired by a decent amount of women, but I wouldn’t really say “many” or call it a feast. Also, the quality of women you attract matters. If you’re genuinely desired by a bunch of undesirable women I wouldn’t describe it as feasting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:21 AM
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Honestly, great point. If someone reasonably asked me what were the downsides of RP, my own philosophical beliefs, my life decisions, or anything else I believe is good/correct/right — I’d be able to have an honest conversation about the downsides or what I may not be considering. With feminism, it’s more cult-like or religious (like you pointed out). Even PPD is too biased to have this kind of conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:50 AM
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I’ve noticed this too. PPD moderators give that warning comment if you very indirectly call out a feminist/blue pill person on something. Yet, the person on this comment, directly insults you by calling you a chicken and there is no response.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:40 AM
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Nah she was 22 and attractive face. No effort. No way I was gunna turn down at offer like that. It was too funny/bizarre not to do it. It wasn’t about desperation. There were many other women attractive and not pregnant lol. Meal ticket? Never bought dinner. Only a few drinks mate. Sometimes they bought me the drinks. It wasn’t about money or dreams. It was about two people wanting to have casual sex. Be mad about it if you want, but that’s what it was. LATAM =/= SEA. Different beauty standards.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:44 AM
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True story: in Thailand, girl I matched with, 6 months pregnant, asked if she could come over to my hotel and suck my dick. She said she was horny and bored. It was right after COVID restrictions lifted. That was the entire date. After, she left and we basically never messaged again. No money exchanged. That was the moment I knew it was about attraction. But it’s just an example, so don’t latch onto it. Every woman I met, I told I was leaving in 3-4 weeks. The most I paid for was a few drinks (w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:11 AM
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You posted on my post, ignoring my actual question and the topic at hand to side-rail the discussion into details about a character — no one’s gaslighting you mate. It doesn’t matter what character said it, what matters is: could you plausibly see a male character saying the same thing about a female character while the scene is portraying him as this strong cool liberated badass? Absolutely fucking not. That’s a question you’ve been avoiding, and you’re ignoring the overarching topic. I’m not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:45 AM
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For people who watched the show five year ago, and think of Phil do they think: Masculine, successful, businessman provider (even though technically this is true). They probably forgot his career. Or Goofy, incompetent, lovable guy but bumbling idiot that would be lost without his wife’s direction. It’s the latter because that’s how the show portrays him. Accolades mean nothing for how we evaluate a character — we base our perception about them in their actions on the screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:41 PM
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Who is the good male role model? The goofy dumb husband Phil who needs his wife to do things right for him? I’ve watched them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:26 PM
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I understand misunderstanding, but saying I’m missing something when you’re making assumptions and are actually the one who’s actually incorrect is pretty ironic. By bad faith I mean you’re focussing on the example, not the topic. Just answer my question, would you think it’s okay if in a show, a good guy, male character, saying something to the effect of “I love nothing more than to break a woman’s spirit” and portraying him as being a cold and cool badass as he said it. And the woman he’s talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:57 PM
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Modern family: all the men are either old, gay, incompetent or goofy; and the women are attractive, intelligent, competent. Fargo season 5. Barbie. 13 reasons why: good male characters are gay or weak, masculine/popular male characters are rapists or douchbags or drug addicts. Adolescents. Every Marvel movie in the last 5 years. Star Wars sequel: men are weak or hateful, Rey is badass who can do anything. The theme is masculinity = bad. Men are only okay if they’re gay or weak or unimposing or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:49 PM
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Thanks for your answer mate, honestly a good point. That’s likely why it’s socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:15 PM
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I understand misunderstanding, but saying I’m missing something when you’re making assumptions and are actually the one who’s actually incorrect is pretty ironic. By bad faith I mean you’re focussing on the example, not the topic. Just answer my question, would you think it’s okay if in a show, a good guy, male character, saying something to the effect of “I love nothing more than to break a woman’s spirit” and portraying him as being a cold and cool badass as he said it. And the woman he’s talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:13 PM
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That makes sense. Appreciate the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:03 PM
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Thanks for engaging in a way that actually addresses the topic and question rather than being obtuse or focussing on the example. This answer actually makes sense. But don’t you think it’s more harmful than good ultimately? Just feels like it’s trying to create more division
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:59 PM
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A) It wasn’t Wednesday who said it, so you’re incorrect. B) The example still stands. Her brother and father are also cynical ‘outcasts’…. Do you really think if they said they take great joy in breaking a woman’s spirit that would fly? Do you think it would be portrayed as empowering and making them look like a badass? Can someone engage in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:54 PM
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I’m not hard pressed, you assumed I didn’t know what I was talking about when it was in fact you that was misinformed. Only reason I replied was because it was too ironic to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:28 PM
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In what way do I not have media literacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:21 PM
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It wasn’t Wednesday Addams who said it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:20 PM
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It wasn’t a teenage girl who said it. It was an old lady lol. You’re 0 for 2. I’m not going to explain every example I’ve noticed or detail how each one had this messaging. If you can’t see what I’m talking about, it’s not worth engaging with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:13 PM
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Ooo rough take here mate, so confident in your smugness of knowing the character…. It wasn’t Wednesday who said it… big swing and a miss there. And either way, a writer for a tv show wouldn’t write it with the word “woman” in that line. The point stands. I said this was one tiny example. It’s literally everywhere in pop culture. I don’t note it down every time I see it. It’s in marvel, Disney, Barbie movie, etc. etc. we’re drowning in subtle and not so subtle anti-masculine and anti-man media th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:52 PM
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Comment doesn’t apply to just the best, but anyone who receives positive feedback. You did. That’s where your charm and confidence originates from. If girls laughed at you or ignored you, you wouldn’t have charm and confidence. This isn’t rocket science keep up
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:14 PM
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A) this is in direct reference to how you are with women, not with your friend group B) I said 99% of the time, congrats on being an outlier if you are actually undesirable but still have confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:38 PM
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But they’re attractive characters because they’re the good guys. The villains are ugly. So if you’re moral you’re attractive and if you’re bad you’re unattractive. That’s another message in Disney. But in reality, guys that are kinda dickheads get women as long as they’re attractive and wealthy and guys that probably would be pretty nice (in reality when I say nice I mean weak and meek) don’t. What’s Disney message - be attractive and powerful or be a good moral man/good moral woman? It’s the la…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:06 PM
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Mate, when I started doing well with women (due to improving my appearance and strategies) in my early 20s and started gaining experience, that’s when I started becoming more charming and confident and charismatic. THATS reality. Those traits aren’t usually innate or ingrained in your personality— they come from experiences. Those experiences come from being a certain level of attractive. Again, that’s reality. Say what you want, I know my statement is true far far more often than not (someone j…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:58 AM
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Mate, a) they’re cartoon characters b) of course they aren’t gunna draw them to be ugly that would serve no purpose and lose them money and the dream they’re selling to women too. C) the message in them isn’t be powerful, be attractive, be masculine. It’s: abide to contemporary mortality. Stop being obtuse and purposefully missing my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:48 AM
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Disney where the morally sound man gets the princess. Good for you, but blue pill generally states personality matters most.. not physical appearance, wealth, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:36 AM
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I don’t think it is assumed. Even if it was people (men and women, but women more so) aren’t honest about what they’re actually attracted to. Women say they like the “dad bod” and “it’s okay if you’re bald just shave it and own it” and “I don’t care as long as you’re taller than me”. Men say we prefer natural looking women but every insta gram model with a billion likes disproves that. None of us want to appear shallow, but we kind of are. And No I just have a girlfriend now. I just meant throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:32 AM
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Blue pill is the ideology that “personality is what matters” When it comes to dating, it’s not. When I was single and in insane shape, I was objectively a pretty shit person and it was objectively a time where I got a lot of attention from women and was successful whether I was kind or kind of a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:18 AM
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Where do you think charisma, confidence, and charm come from 99% of the time? Being attractive from a young age, positive feedback when flirting, and experience with women. Your friends and their bfs are very likely close to being looks-matched or have a similar overall SMV. You’re very likely biased. When I look outside, I usually see couples that are compatible in appearance or SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:14 AM
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I was red-pill before it was a thing, I was never fooled by that shit. I knew what to focus on. But the blue pill message doesn’t include: Masculine frame, wealth, status, height, facial symmetry, muscles, social circle, what parts of personality actually matter in attracting women. Blue pill is Disney… it’s a fairytale, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:05 AM
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That’s what the blue pill is though. “Just be yourself” “just be confident” “you’ll find the right person, just be nice” “personality is what matters” This is literally what blue pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:57 AM
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OPs question fundamentally doesn’t account blue pill ideology. Weird considering this is purple pill debates. You should be familiar with the concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:55 AM
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Agreed, but my point above still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:24 AM
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Good, much closer. And actually — good points, those things definitely played a role too. Now you’re thinking critically! But do you not think nearly doubling the workforce played a massive role? If the majority of entire families were relying on single income, a median single income HAD to be relatively higher. When two people are expected to be working, companies can justify not having to give employees a wage that can support a family. Also, give women more pocket money and what happens, cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:24 AM
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Income going up is a result of time and (poorly) keeping up with inflation lol. You have to know better. And when that article talked about different cities, it didn’t consider the economic situations it just found a few cities that correlate with a clearly biased writer. She couldn’t even explain it, just offered up a few lazy “maybe it’s this… or maybe that…” explanations. Here, I can prove it’s wrong with a simple question. If what you’re saying is true, then explain to me why a median single…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:08 AM
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To be the sole earner and comfortably (without a crazy amount of debt) raise a family where I live you probably need to make ~200,000. Average income for full time workers is ~80,000. It’s not merely hard — it’s basically only a reality for about ~5% of top earners. First wave feminism was a net positive to society — and that’s what gave you all your substantive rights and freedoms today. The push to enter into the workforce, however, backfired when capitalism used it to justify paying employees…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:25 AM
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Correct-ish. The problem is that capitalism exploited feminism to increase productivity, consumerism, and profits; and it has subsequently had a profoundly negative impact on average (and even well-above average) earners and people who want to have a traditional family setup (which includes both men and women).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:05 AM
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You could choose that in the 60s — some women worked back then, especially if they were single. You could also choose if you want to be a housewife or a worker, because employers used to pay an employee based on the fact that a single income per household was the arrangement in society — so an average family could survive on a single income. Now, I’d argue there is less choice for the majority of women. Now women have to work in like 75% of situations. That sounds like less choice to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:17 AM
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Women in the 50s and 60s chose who they married — and therefore had autonomy in choosing a happy situation/life. They also got divorced if they wanted to. My grandmother got divorced in the 1960s. Women weren’t forced to marry an abusive asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:26 AM
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If household chores are 3 hours maximum per week at 50%. Then household chores are 6 hours maximum per week at 100%. You work 40 hours per week + 3 hours of housework = 43 hours per week. A housewife (based on your own estimation) has 6 hours of housework per week. Who has more freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:39 AM
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So, you have your own career (I’ll assume it’s 40+ hours a week), mow your own lawn, carry your own heavy things, pay for your own oil changes, and ALSO do ~50% of the cooking and cleaning which is probably about 1-2 hours of work per day on average. You’re also complaining about how shitty the men in your life are and how none of them do that shit, but you also admitted that to afford a mortgage you basically need dual income so you still need to rely on a man long term or buy for a home you’ll…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:27 AM
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No they weren’t. In the 60s and 70s very few women had full time positions with 40+ hours in the office. As it became more common, women’s life satisfaction has decreased. Maybe we’re just coming at this from a different social groups, I don’t personally know any men who don’t take on household work. The men I know mow the grass, take care of handiwork, mechanical work, do the heavy lifting of items, and even contribute to cooking and cleaning. In your experience, this isn’t the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:08 AM
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No they weren’t. In the 60s and 70s very few women had full time positions with 40+ hours in the office. As it became more common, women’s life satisfaction has decreased. Maybe we’re just coming at this from a different social groups, I don’t personally know any men who don’t take on household work. The men I know mow the grass, take care of handiwork, mechanical work, do the heavy lifting of items, and even contribute to cooking and cleaning. In your experience, this isn’t the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:07 AM
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No it doesn’t. This is such an oversimplification. The vast majority of men that have poor hygiene etc. are already too ugly to attract women and they’ve just given up. Or they’re autistic or something. Not all men have optimal haircuts, but usually men in social situations are reasonably well put together and it’s not things like fashion that are holding them back. It’s not about opportunity if you’re an average/slightly above average looking white guy. It’s genuine attraction. When I first lan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:23 AM
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The courts by and large favour women in property settlements in the vast majority of western countries. I work in family law and see it first hand. You’re trying to steer the argument in a new direction that doesn’t relate to the main point of the discussion. IMO, whether women were more free back in the 50s/60s or whether they’re more free now is still up for debate. I’d argue that it’s really a matter of perspective and individual circumstances, but I lean towards thinking that the majority of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:13 AM
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Why’s there always an assumption that your husband (that you chose) will end up being the worst person ever and your boss (that you didn’t choose) will be this great man? Your boss wants to extract as much production from you as possible while paying you as little as feasible — that’s the capitalist model. And are you saying dual income is often necessary to support a certain quality of life and mortgage? Soooo now you have to work 40+ hour weeks but most women STILL need a man for financial sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:01 AM
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You don’t choose your boss, you choose a career. Changing jobs at any position that’s actually providing you a reasonable quality of life usually isn’t as simple as you’re making it sound — and even if you do, you still don’t choose your new boss. If your husband doesn’t treat you right, divorce him. In many cases for women in the west, there is financial incentive (not financial burden). In most western countries — you’ll get 50%+ of the cumulative net worth between you and him. 9 times out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:52 AM
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You can divorce your husband though too (and usually get a much bigger severance package out of it!) — the point the comment was making is, are women really more ‘free’ now under an employer who doesn’t care about them vs 60 years ago under a husband who (usually) did? Maybe, but I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:52 PM
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No mate, you’re trying to change the narrative. If you’re 24, and all of those traits that I mentioned — you’re a 5 or 6 out of 10 max in the west and just a very average male. Being well-groomed is assumed and being intelligent doesn’t skyrocket your SMV. Yet, the exact man I described, who is average in the west, is a rockstar in SEA. I’ve even seen some Thai women who were genuinely attracted to older men (in their 50s and took decent care of themselves) due to skin and eye colour. The phenot…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:06 PM
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By and large, things aren’t devolving despite what the news would have you believe. Legal systems aren’t going anywhere, the internet isn’t going anywhere, and policy and social norms are getting more progressive. Just watch a Hollywood movie or TV show. It’s all catered to women now. We ain’t going back mate, just adapt and use what you have to your advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 09:53 PM
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The vast majority of the world is getting more and more progressive. Men could stop it, if the majority of powerful men agreed to stop it — but they won’t because feminism and an organised, structured, commercial society is profitable. If you’re waiting for change, you haven’t been paying attention mate. Two trump terms doesn’t give men social power back, we’re way past that: internet, legal reform, policy reform, etc. I agree that women lie about who they want via virtue signaling. But the answ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:01 AM
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Most men that geomax either:- 1. Have tried improving their life (maybe even made a lot of progress); and/or 2. Want more/better quality options; or 3. Improving wouldn’t make a difference AKA the men you’re referencing (for these men geomaxxing isn’t as effective and is more about money). On the first two points, it’s not necessarily desperate men (or a relationship built on desperation) — usually it’s average or slightly above average men that can attract some women in the west, but are seekin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:05 AM
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But evolution isn’t necessarily about nature, it’s about adaptation for survival/reproduction. As we’ve transitioned into a society with law and social norms and tinder and feminism, we must evolve and adapt to that — even if it goes against “nature”. That means men cannot force themselves on women and women get to choose who they mate with. It’s still survival of the fittest — it’s just that our definition of who is the fittest has changed and women hold the power now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 09:34 AM
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No it doesn’t. You’re comparing two distinct groups (sex-tourists and geomaxxers/passport bros) and noting some overlap — just like gay people and pedophiles. Besides, both sex-tourism and being a passport bro aren’t ideologies, they’re both just sexual strategies. My analogy works. I don’t care about what’s being said, I seek the truth and only care about what is correct. I don’t represent passport bros or what they said, I’m just informing you you’re wrong when you equate sex tourism with geom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:09 AM
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My analogy still works — it has nothing to do with ideology, it’s about lumping two distinct (yet sometimes overlapping) groups together. South Korea isn’t hard, it’s easier to attract women there than in South America imo — women hate their own men there. South America is more difficult and dangerous, and less about attraction and more about money. But Asian women have (rightly of wrongly) a strong attraction/preference to white skin, colourful eyes, etc. Yeah but your SMV is similar there to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:10 AM
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Being what you consider a top 10% man is different than what women consider a top 10% man or who they will date. Congratulations on being financially well off, that helps… but the other things you listed matter less than having really good facial genetics and height (which you’ve already acknowledged) and other genetic traits out of your control (hair genes, IQ, natural personality for example). I’m in great shape too and am months away from being admitted to the bar and have a great career line…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:59 AM
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You’re missing the point. Being a top 10% man requires certain genetics. I agree most men, like most women, are way too quick to complain about something rather than take actionable steps, but your thesis is still wrong. Any men under 5’6 (which is a lot) won’t be a “top 10% man” to women no matter what they do. I doubt you can name more than 5 famous bald men that are objectively, conventionally attractive (without using google). Capitalism is structurally opposed to every man being a top earne…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:29 PM
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Genetic factors like height, male-pattern baldness, IQ (usually an above average IQ is needed for high-paying jobs), facial structure, neurodivergency, and about 10-15 other major purely genetic things don’t stand in the way of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:39 AM
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Men are more honest in saying what we find attractive about a woman. Essentially every woman knows what attracts a man because men are pretty clear about it. Yet, all the BP men in this sub seem to think personality is the most important thing to attract a woman because that’s what women tell them. “Just be sweet…be yourself!… be nice and funny and confident” I think love is largely a matter of circumstance/options - but it’s still love. It’s why many people in a relationship are close to being …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:58 AM
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Men are more honest in saying what we find attractive about a woman. Essentially every woman knows what attracts a man because men are pretty clear about it. Yet, all the BP men in this sub seem to think personality is the most important thing to attract a woman because that’s what women tell them. “Just be sweet…be yourself!… be nice and funny and confident” I think love is largely a matter of circumstance/options - but it’s still love. It’s why many people in a relationship are close to being …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:53 AM
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I wanted to make it seem more believable to people who don’t understand the crazy difference, but I kinda agree. If you’re coming from a major western city and you’re considered average there, and you go to Bangkok — take a few good pictures, get tinder gold, get a boost, you’ll get hundreds or thousands of likes in a night — and while many of those likes will be LBs, escorts, and unattractive women, still many of them will be from cute girls who basically just wanna hook up with white guys. It’…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:03 PM
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Exactly. There’s nothing wrong with geomaxxing as long as you’re not being an asshole about it. People just like talking shit about it because they don’t understand it. And they assume it’s only for ugly guys (in reality it benefit average - slightly above average men the most) and people love making fun of ugly guys. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:36 PM
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Don’t live in the US rn but I’ve lived in multiple western countries — and I have dated a few Asian women in the western countries too. I don’t have a low SMV just a bit short (5’8), so I can do okay basically anywhere, but the difference is that an exotic rare phenotype raises your relative SMV — and not being 6’ doesn’t hurt your chances because everyone in Thailand is significantly shorter. That’s the appeal. So if I’m a 6/10 in the west, I’m an 8.5 in certain other countries. I can date bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:29 PM
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They’re not the same. You sound like one of those homophobes of the past trying to equate or link homosexuality to being a PDF file or potential serial killer. Nah, South Korea is widely talked about — those girls love white men and despise their own. Japan is an expensive place to live and has a more uptight culture. Also only ~10% of the population speaks English fluently. In china, less than 5% speak English fluently. Any tourist destination in Thailand, it will be upwards of 50% that you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:53 AM
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That’s actually sex tourism — and it isn’t the same thing as being a passport bro/geomaxxer. I know you don’t understand the difference, but it’s similar to a wealthy man who is able to take women on nice dates in the US vs a wealthy man paying for escorts. That’s only the monetary side of geomaxxing though. If you’re 5’9, broad shoulders, decent/average build, average face, 6 inches, light colour hair, colourful eyes (basically think of the most average white 25 year old American possible), you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:52 AM
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Our primary ingrained instinct beyond survival is reproduction. You should centre your life around your own interests, drives, and goals — but, as a species, passing down our genes is our most essential driving force, which requires being able to secure a partner. Wanting to improve so that you can find a mate, have children, build a life together is pretty reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:54 AM
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For your first point, Are you advocating for men to leave their wives at a certain age? I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make here. Also, for your counter, if the money was mostly gone, but she was too old and unattractive to secure another man, wouldn’t get much in a divorce settlement, and had grown fond of her husband for other reasons over decades, she might stay. So, to answer your question, even if money was the main reason she got with him initially, she may stay with him w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:39 AM
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To answer your question: Appearance and youth are the MAIN things men look for initially in a woman. BUT what you’re forgetting is that we also fall in love and appreciate the other things a woman can offer like raising a family together, support in the ways she can, and being a kind and sweet person. Besides, if you’ve been married for 15+ years, most men don’t have the right combination of resources (post divorce settlement, child support etc.) and looks and modern dating knowledge anymore to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:04 PM
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See. This is what women say they want. Personality even if it’s a janitor on minimum wage. That’s what I’m talking about. But in reality, I doubt you’d even date a below average looking man on minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:43 AM
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I meant lack to mean inadequate/insufficient. Assume it’s minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:37 AM
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Minimum wage. Not free
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:18 AM
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So even if a below average looking guy was the best janitor on earth and had a crazy hard work ethic and showed up early and worked late, and took his job very seriously, his lack of pay check would be fine because he had a great work ethic and personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:16 AM
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What’s the truth then? I’m assuming you’re a woman. What attracts you? Would you say looks/money is more important or personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:11 AM
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Some entitled bimbo probably said it on a podcast once — that doesn’t mean it’s the majority of women. I’ll spell it out for you: Most women say they want a good/nice man, but what they really want is an attractive man who can provide. It’s that simple. That’s how they’re not being upfront about what they want and what attracts them. Does that make sense? I don’t care about a rule bimbos say and incels whine about or whatever you’re trying to claim. I care about what’s true. And if you want the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:06 AM
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No girl says they want the 666 (some do go for this type of man), they say they want a good personality. Are you even paying attention lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:56 AM
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The argument there is that women SAY they want personality but then go for the 666 guy. I don’t fully agree. I think women say they want personality, but what’s gotten me women is having a fit body, decent face and a reasonable income/access to resources. Being charming and confident is important too so that part of personality does matter, but being a nice/thoughtful simp is what some women promote and it doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:51 AM
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Which 2 things?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:37 AM
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The men who whine about expectations are usually losers — I agree with that. True RP men are just as critical towards men as women. If you aren’t getting women, get off reddit and do something productive about it. Getting women isn’t even particularly difficult if you know what you’re doing so I agree that the 666 rule is very untrue for like 95% of women. However, men in general are more upfront about wanting attractive and young women. Women are more likely to virtue signal and say it’s almost…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:34 AM
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People tell women to marry young so that women capitalise on their youth and beauty and secure the best option while their value is the highest. Your argument isn’t really contradicting what I’m saying. Also, I don’t think you understand what virtue signalling is. A man can love his wife and not want to leave her but still admit that 20 year old women are the most attractive. You’re either really misunderstanding what I’m saying or really bad at arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:21 AM
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Men saying they will fuck anything has nothing to do with what they value, they’d still prefer to fuck more attractive women (and they wouldn’t deny that) but will settle for unattractive if lonely/horny. And many claim it’s the most important factor or basically the only really significant one. Sure, some women are honest about money/looks being essential, but most of the time it’s extremely downplayed — you really don’t see my point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:10 AM
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What men deny that beauty and youth are super important? Exceedingly few men will try to virtue signal and say it’s all about a girls personality. But many (arguably most) women claim that personality is basically everything or certainly the most important thing by a wide margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:56 AM
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Not sure what your point is here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:39 AM
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Because many men are undesirable losers that have a hard time accepting that women don’t like them. Then they crowd spaces like reddit and give RP a bad look. Real RP men understand female nature and accept it. Men aren’t evil or shallow for prioritising youth and beauty and women aren’t evil or shallow for prioritising resources. Human nature is inherently self-interested and driven by the instinctual drive to survive and reproduce and take the best steps in securing those goals. Again, the dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 07:36 AM
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lol even when women are being mean to other women it’s all men’s fault. Actually hilarious the lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:32 AM
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The difference is men acknowledge that the main thing most men care about is appearance and youth. For many men, it’s probably the only thing that matters. Very few women acknowledge that money is often the most important thing or a preliminary qualifier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:21 AM
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You thought your ‘would you rather..’ question would make people sympathetic to your argument. Instead, it just highlights that many people think dying a virgin is worse than being SA’d.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:22 PM
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The term ‘the prize’ is lame, no doubt. But the issue is that it’s being used differently by men like OP and women — but there is truth to both sides. When women say they’re ‘the prize’ it’s about them being more desirable. And If they’re conveniently attractive, it’s true. Men will see them as a ‘prize/trophy wife’ and women may view themselves as such. When men say they’re ’the prize’ it’s about the overall net value a high quality man can bring to the table and the relative rareness. Not just…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:42 PM
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No, he meant volunteering will not give you status among men or women, unless the volunteer work is worthy of status. Volunteering to give a speech at a major charity fundraiser could improve status, but scooping bowls of soup for the hungry (as admirable as it may be) doesn’t. It may get you brownie points for any women that take notice, but that’s it. And men are transactional — just like women are. Being transactional is the one thing I’m sure isn’t gendered. In fact, all of our relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:32 AM
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Even through creating an absurd “this or that” option that you’ve taken the time to make as extreme as possible, many people are still choosing the option you’re claiming is worse in the SA vs virgin option. You’ve moved the goalposts, have home field advantage, and handpicked your teammates (crazy scenarios), and you’re still not winning. Yikes, hard to be more wrong than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:06 AM
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This. Also, unless you’re a dad with your child (like a little league coach), there is a risk that people will view you working with children as potentially creepy or weird — especially if you’re unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:34 AM
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I don’t know about that. Those elderly women lived through WW2 and probably had more interesting/meaningful lives than many people have today. In what way do you think your life is more exciting? What highs do you experience that those women didn’t? I’d argue life and the workplace is actually duller today — less impactful, less meaningful, yet simultaneously more stressful. Many women (usually single women) worked part time as nurses or teachers or helped assist their husband in those days, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:00 AM
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Good, I wish you only happy days for you. For the last bit, maybe you only assume that because you were told to assume that. More opportunities can also lead to more responsibilities, more expectations, more stress, more pressure, more challenges, more accountability, and less happiness. Most elderly women I’ve had conversations with, seem relaxed, claim they are happy, and say they are fulfilled with their life — even if they were a stay-at-home housewife that raised a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:43 AM
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Are times more overwhelming now? What do you think is causing this rise in depression? Do men not cheat or have bad addictions today? Does an average salary actually provide women financial freedom and a good quality of life in today’s economy? Do you like your job? Maybe you do, but do you think most women enjoy their work? The big one you ignored: do you think women (not you or your family) are happier today than in the 1960s?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:47 AM
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That’s great. I’m happy for you and I hope things continue to go well for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:38 AM
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Fair. I was talking about from the 1960s - 2025 from a zoomed out position (it’s higher now than in the 60s), but I misspoke and concede to your point. My question still stands, do you think women are happier today?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 12:30 AM
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I’m just asking questions that make people think a little bit more critically. If it’s hard to answer or it gives you an answer you didn’t like, it could potentially give you a more well-rounded perspective. Probably not, as this is reddit, but in general it’s a tactic that can help get to a logical conclusion or maybe even the truth of an idea. It’s known as the Socratic method
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:46 PM
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Is it different today? While there isn’t as much social/religious pressure, Economic pressure essentially forces average earning men and women to pair up if they want a reasonable quality of life. Given that the divorce rate is pretty much on an upwards trend, I’d say women are still marrying men they don’t like. I doubt women are happier and there are surveys and stats that demonstrate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:41 PM
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I don’t have a hypothesis. I have a question— are women happier today than in the 60s? The 20s? Earlier? I’m not sure, but I think it’s possible. And if that’s true, then another important question must be asked: why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:33 PM
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Interesting. You think millennials are less materialistic? Care less about being better than their neighbours? Again, I feel like it’s the opposite. Millennials are obsessed with shopping/spending on non-essentials and proving how great their life is via social media posts. I think in general, we’re way more shallow and self-obsessed than boomers were. We’re not competing with our neighbours anymore, we’re competing with the entire internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:18 PM
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Good, I’m happy for you. For my family, I’d say it’s the opposite. My grandma and her sisters were all very happy, my mother and that generation was less, and all my female cousins seem miserable. All of my girlfriends, though good people, have had depression or anxiety. There’s also a downward trend tracking back from the 70s of how women have rated their own wellbeing over the decades. I’m not really sure why, but I think it’s noteworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:39 PM
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Are you happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:45 PM
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Genuine question: Do you think women are happier now than they were in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:27 PM
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Good point — words do change in meaning. When someone cuts off your grandfather in traffic, he might call them a f***t, but that doesn’t mean he’s actually making assumptions about their sexuality. Or in high school a group of popular girls might call another girl they don’t like a whre, but that doesn’t mean they believe that girl is literally selling her body for money. I think incel has just become another one of these insults. I don’t like this person for whatever reason, so I’ll call them […
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:04 AM
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So, men have the right to avoid pregnancy by not creampieing women? Then doesn’t a woman also have the right to avoid pregnancy by not being creampied in (like, maybe… by not having sex). Your argument just fell apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:02 AM
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“A women health, body, and mind is no where near a good trade off for money cause it would never be enough, you guys couldn't afford it.” If you’re paying for mere sex — you’re mainly just paying for the body of the person you’re having sex with (not necessarily the health/mind). I kept the above point gender neutral because in a sexual/romantic relationship (where people aren’t paying for sexual acts with money), both parties are giving the other their ‘health, body, and mind’. I don’t see it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:21 AM
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Even if they punched with the same punch force, in the same spot of the face , at the same time (and have therefor done the same act by your definition) the man would likely suffer significantly less injury. He might end up with a bruised jaw and chipped tooth whereas the women may have a shattered jaw and be knocked out cold. Im not sure if you realise this already, but your second paragraph just further helps prove the point I was making. The disparity in harm is exactly what’s relevant — and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:24 AM
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Majority of people online. Online. In comment sections. It’s the same thing with feminists — intolerable, unreasonable, resentful of men in an echo chamber; but in reality, I’ve dated many women who claim to be feminists and/or have feminist ideals and I’ve found them to be fairly reasonable in real life and I’ve enjoyed their company even if we don’t always agree on things. Maybe it’s because they’re the ones not chronically online looking to vent and whine. There’s a common similar issue on bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:20 AM
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If a 125 pound woman punches a 200 pound man in the face as hard as she possibly can, then the man punches that woman in the face as hard as he possibly can — they have done the exact same act. She even did it first in this hypothetical. He has not been more violent, the action is the same — his action is just capable of greater damage. And as there is a major disparity in harm done, the man’s action of punching the woman is rightfully thought to be worse than the woman’s action of punching the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:58 AM
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(Straight) Women have the exact same fundamental desire for affection and acknowledgement from the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:12 AM
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Men need women and women need men. It’s pretty much that simple. As humans, our primary instinctual drive beyond mere survival is reproduction. It’s written in our code. Women can pretend life would be great without men, and men can pretend life would be great without women — but it’s pure fiction and utter silliness. I assume you’re against sexism — at least towards women? But this post is sexist. It assumes men to be these hateful, obsessive, self-obsessed creatures. It’s basically just a fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:58 AM
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I agree with you. I believe it’s possible my field of work may be fully online in the next 5-10 years — and if so, I’m absolutely considering geomaxxing solely for financial reasons (as I have a long-term girlfriend atm). At the end of the day geomaxxing is about way more than increasing relative SMV — it’s about increasing overall quality of life. The manner in which it’s usually criticised is on the dating front though, so that’s why my post was tailored to that aspect of geomaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:34 AM
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Reading back on it maybe his comment didn’t deserve “tone policing”. I just hate the trend where if someone says something mildly critical of the other sex, men/women jump to calling them “misogynist/misandrist!” I don’t advocate for soothing and appeasing — I would promote logic, question-asking, nuance, an open mind, and occasional humour (since this is reddit and it’s more about entertainment and exercising thought than it is about actually changing someone else’s mind or finding the absolute…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:24 AM
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There’s a different between criticism and something being socially frowned upon. For example, women wear makeup because it is an easy way to increase their SMV. Some men criticise it (or are jealous that women kinda get a cheat code in this manner). I personally think the criticism on it is really really stupid and I disagree with men that criticise it. Anyways, wearing makeup isn’t socially frowned upon, mocked, or seen as pathetic. But when men try to increase their SMV, there’s often this wei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:34 AM
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In My original post I clarified that I was talking about western/developed/progressive countries, which represents a significant portion of the world and probably the majority of reddit users. A portion of US states not recognising the legal concepts I’m talking about doesn’t negate or even water-down my point and it comes across as US-centric.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:26 AM
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Your experience doesn’t necessarily reflect reality. This subreddit is a bit more neutral/level-headed, so people on here are less likely to complain/post about an understandable phenomenon. However, when I asked a question, many people even in these comments have a negative view of it. Including you: “wannabes”. Not to mention you see criticisms all over other parts of the internet/social media and even pop culture. See for example, the White Lotus. A popular HBO show using the term LBH (losers…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:09 AM
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Absolutely it would! This is absolutely a form of geomaxxing that is rarely talked about and a great point that further distinguishes it from sex tourism. Well done, a critical thought. It’s about strategy, leveraging things to your advantage, and increasing relative SMV — not exploitation/paying for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 11:42 PM
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I interpret sex tourism to mean paying for sex — going somewhere for cheap easy to find prostitution. Whereas geomaxxing is about increasing your SMV to the point where women to want to be with you/find you attractive. And going to a place where you have a rare phenotype, are usually much taller than the local men, have features like lighter hair/color eyes, broader shoulders etc. makes you stand out and more attractive in a relative way. I guess they’re both kinda about sex/dating sort of, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:08 PM
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I don’t think anyone cares either way about women doing that - I’ve never even thought about it. And I kinda doubt it is even that frequent of an occurrence, but I see your point. People wouldn’t look down on it the same way. I think you make some decent points, I’d caution you though, some of your message reads as a bit angry and bitter. Again, I think your points are mostly valid, but being so adamant and resentful is one of the main issues with arguing with a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:30 AM
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Your essay is mostly projection and rambling. I do appreciate the effort, but I’d recommend trying to be a bit more concise and less judgemental. It’s possible that some geomaxxers dislike western women, but I imagine most are either exhausted of rejection or just want better options. Maybe try to view the issue with more empathy? Imagine that it’s so hard for you to find a decent guy, you’re considering moving to the other side of the world. Not everything needs to be a gender war issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:22 AM
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I can see the downside to certain elements of sex tourism - but let’s go with the example you provided. Guys just going on a boys trip for a week, download tinder, capitalise on a brief spike in SMV and go on some fun dates with local women and it leads to consensual sex. What’s even the issue with that? Men and women have one night stands in the west all the time. If a single man in his 20s travels to Asia should he refrain from having sex with local women? The women in Thailand/Medellin partic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:13 AM
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Or overweight women! Haha So, you’re thinking women just want unattractive men to suffer? Maybe, but I doubt it’s that simple. I feel like there’s more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:01 AM
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Damn dude, this isn’t English 335. Thanks for engaging, but maybe chill on the keyboard. No way am I trying to reply to all of that on a Friday night. Aside from misunderstanding my point on multiple issues, the only real feedback I’ll give is that there is a super judgmental tone you’re giving off and you have a generally resentful/bitter energy in this response. I haven’t blamed western women or said anything against feminism. You don’t know me. I am happily living with my girlfriend in a west…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:55 AM
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That’s probably the best answer yet. Except your last paragraph is a bit much. I don’t think women are misandrists for the most part, only a vocal minority are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:40 AM
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Merely getting a girlfriend isn’t the aim.Dating women you’re actually attracted to — and those women genuinely being attracted to you — is the aim. A really ugly 3 might be able to find ‘success’ overseas with less attractive women or women that only want access to his money, but that sidesteps the point of geomaxxing. Geomaxxing is best suited for slightly below average looking to slightly above average looking men. In that range, it’s much easier to find women that are both attractive and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 07:36 AM
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Men perceived to be less attractive by western women inherently deserve less? Also, I don’t think it’s entirely about money. A rare phenotype is certain areas is just seen as desirable and attractive. Also, when you play a video game - it’s against other people and they don’t receive a benefit from you beating them at the game. When you date, it’s usually because both parties are receiving some kind of benefit. While I appreciate the analogy, it doesn’t really work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:28 AM
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How is it smurfing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:24 AM
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I agree with all of this. But that doesn’t answer my question as to why it’s so frowned upon. This just provides a reason why it SHOULDNT be frowned upon and should be encouraged as a viable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:20 AM
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I’d argue that most men that succeed with women in another country could be successful with some women in the states too — just not the quality of American women they’d want (overweight or unattractive). Traveling can raise SMV, but if your SMV is so low you can’t attract any women in the US, going overseas probably won’t help much.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:16 AM
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This response isn’t bad, but there are a couple issues I have with it. It seems like it’s more directed at sex tourism, not geomaxxing. I believe there is a pretty convincing argument that all relationships are transactional in one sense or another. I guess the question is what is being transacted. The narrative that Asian women from certain countries are these poor, vulnerable victims is problematic and untrue. They’re just as intelligent as western women. And they derive benefits from relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:10 AM
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I’ve lived in three different western countries. While women do work, they usually take on more pleasant/recreational jobs and less hours. Also, men do housework now too — especially millennial men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:51 PM
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It’s a majority of people ONLINE. It’s a relatively small minority in the overall population. I would wager the vast majority of RP men don’t even have reddit accounts and have never once commented on a YouTube video. So, your assumptions on the overall group are skewed. Go to your local bar. Look around. Ask some of the guys if they care about arguing with people on reddit or YouTube. Do they even know what red pill is? Many probably won’t. Everything on here is so far from reality. Think criti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:32 PM
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And, in general, men still bear the financial responsibilities/burdens/stress of providing for a family. A career that can provide for a family today will either be highly stressful, highly time-consuming, or highly physically demanding. Sometimes all three. Just my opinion, but I think that male duties are overall probably still a lot more demanding than doing female duties (laundry, cooking, playing with the kids that women chose to have, and bearing the ‘mental load’ of the household). So, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:06 PM
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Also, see my another answer I had to the RP group part of your response: RP men in comment sections are often angry and bitter and have little to no success with women. But this is a tiny minority that is over-represented in online platforms. Most Men who watch RP content, just listen to what’s good advice and don’t take the time to argue online or whine about shit tbh. Same thing with feminists imo. Most are pretty chill in real life and are fine to date, but they are insufferable in an online …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 09:01 PM
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It’s not factual. The earth is a roundish, spherical shape is factual. If someone says “women should be more submissive” “women sometimes behave in a contradictory way” “a woman’s desires are a mostly a product of evolution” etc. and thousands of people like those comment, it may seem to be anti-women from your perspective, but that’s just your opinion vs their opinion. It’s the same thing with feminists who resent men. There are many comments that I could find that seem to me to be extremely an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:56 PM
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In many western nations these are real legal concepts that can have significant implications without men even being aware of it. I know this may come as a surprise to you but the USA isn’t the center of the universe, it’s better to consider a larger perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:25 PM
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How does it fair better for men in 2025? I think there probably a reasonable argument for it the past, but how does it actually benefit men more? Even with a BFA, I don’t see how it benefits men more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:45 PM
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Are you not aware of the terms De facto/common law relationships? If you live together and share the benefits of marriage, you share similar legal responsibilities in many western countries. After a certain amount of time passes, you basically would have identical legal responsibilities. This could depend on where you live, but the real solution to that problem is getting a BFA (prenupt), not avoiding marriage when you could still face the same legal ramifications in a defacto relationship. I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:13 PM
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Attractiveness is subjective/relative, and happiness is subjective/relative. These ‘studies’ prove nothing. If anything, I’d be inclined to believe the happiest couples are the ones in which both the man and women are of equal attraction or the woman is slightly more conventionally attractive, but the man has more status, a good career, and is only slightly less attractive than the women, but has a higher overall SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:43 PM
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Just hit the nail on the head with this comment. Couldn’t be more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:58 AM
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‘Studies’ lol. A few people at a university just arbitrarily/subjectively decided who the hotter and uglier person in the couple was (even the writer of the article acknowledges that’s kinda whack), then asked them a few questions about if they felt pressured to look good/lose weight as if this = happiness. “They found that in instances where the man was less attractive he was likely to compensate with acts of kindness like presents, sexual favours or extra housework.” An article that actively t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:55 AM
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It’s possible men do understand what women want better than women do — at least on what women say they find attractive vs what women actually do find attractive. This can work the other way too, btw. For example, most men say they prefer “natural” women. Yet, if you take two average looking identical twin women and give one fake tits, non-botched/complimentary facial surgeries, bbl, a makeup artist, teeth whitener, a photographer/editor for her Instagram, fake tan, a bunch of other fake beauty s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:28 AM
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RP men in comment sections are often angry and bitter and have little to no success with women. But this is a tiny minority that is over-represented in online platforms. Most Men who watch RP content, just listen to what’s good advice and don’t take the time to argue online or whine about shit tbh. Same thing with feminists imo. Most are pretty chill in real life and are fine to date, but they are insufferable in an online setting in an echo chamber with mob mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:02 AM
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He responded to your personal anecdote with his personal anecdote. Neither are facts, they are just something you both observed/perceived. Then, when confronted with his equally valid experience, you ad hominem attacked him by saying he seemed weak. Hypocritical/ironic. The majority of men that have success with women are red pill (even if they don’t know what red pill is). Men that inherently know the importance of status, attraction, and money and know how to act around women are always the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 09:46 AM
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