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| 0 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should die | Debate | Practical-Delay-344 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/25 11:20 PM |
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| 2 | Women on this sub, would you date someone who had a perineal urethrostomy?Easier birth control? A condom won't work with this condition, so it's not an advantage. To answer OP's question: it wouldn't be a no-go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/25 08:59 PM |
| 4 | Women often view toxicity through a male-centric lens, making them less likely to recognize their own toxic behavior.Abortion: no toxicity. Once baby's born, both parents have to parent, pay child support or find someone else to adopt the kid. That abortion is used to escape parental obligations is imo immoral but can't be prevented due to the right of bodily autonomy. Might sound unfair but isn't. Or I could complain it's "unfair" women are the one's to get pregnant (which I think it is 😉). (Male) body shaming: hands down toxic. Porn consumption: potentially toxic. If the argument is that porn stars are explo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/25 11:39 AM |
| 3 | The best way to correct the dating market is for men to leave women alone.I sure hope they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 06:29 PM |
| 15 | The best way to correct the dating market is for men to leave women alone.I lurked in MGTOW forums for a while. For people who claim that they're going their own way, they were damn much preoccupied with women 😄 I expected to find guys talking passionately about their hobbies and special interests without the constraints of a romantic relationship. Instead, the evil women lived rent free in their heads. It was just as crazy as the "childfree" crowd. You'd imagine these are people raving about the possibilities about what to do with their lives, but it's just another h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 07:35 AM |
| 3 | Women do you want your partners to do this ?Don't care for any of those. Small gifts are nice but more in the realm of "Hey, they had that jam we liked so much at the hotel last year so I bought one." Thoughtfulness not value or performance are the point. Btw, I do the same in return. If I come across something I think my partner might enjoy, I'll buy it for him. I don't let a man pay on a first date (unless it's a very small amount) as I don't like the expectations associated. This isn't sex for dinner, it's us getting to know each other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 09:34 AM |
| 2 | Majority of "misandrists" are men.This is true, because men do the majority of physical violence and women the majority of relational violence. What do you mean by relational violence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 08:25 AM |
| 4 | Majority of "misandrists" are men.I think oppression is even more complex than that. If you compare a poor man and a poor woman, I think it's better to be a poor woman as it evokes more sympathy and "not being successful" (of course, the notion that poverty stems from not grinding hard enoug is another problematic view) is less stigmatised for women than for men. On the other hand, wealth and power are much more accepted in a man's hand than a woman's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 08:22 AM |
| 4 | Majority of "misandrists" are men.Yeah, I think it's rather internalized misandry from patriarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 08:06 AM |
| 16 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?Yeah, it's kind of ironic. If a woman's "value" decreases with every guy she fucks, like it's leaving a stain on her, guess who's doing the spoiling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 06:04 PM |
| 4 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?Very, very attractive men also sometimes feel sexually objectified. Henry Cavill has talked about it. I once knew a guy personally who was a literal head-turner. I think it was sometimes difficult for him that the first thing people noticed about him - and often commented on - were always his looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 05:57 PM |
| 5 | What do you think of actual bad boys?Wow, that sounds like a pretty shitty place. I guess where you live society has eroded so far that it's now the law of the strongest. And if the women act accordingly. In healthier environments, criminals are not attractive mate choices. Men who bully/threaten/violate other men are also much more likely to hurt their partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 12:46 PM |
| – | Toxic Women Push The Sexual Culture That's Ruining Things For Other WomenI disagree. It has never been easier to find a "wait for it" guy than in the current social climate. Because everyone who's not willing to wait can be sorted out as incompatible right away, no time wasted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 06:15 PM |
| – | Toxic Women Push The Sexual Culture That's Ruining Things For Other WomenYou can still get to know someone without having to jump into bed with them right away. In a sexually permissive society you can be even more sure in that case that the other isn't only after you for sex. In a conservative society, there are people who marry just for access to sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/25 06:04 PM |
| – | Relationships Are Always Transactional, Whether We Admit It or NotReciprocal yes, transactional no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 02:36 PM |
| – | Why do women try to keep a non-shallow facade?Because your definition of physical attractiveness is too restrictive. Yes, women want a man they find hot but that doesn't have to men 666. I find burly with body hair attractive who are taller than me (easy at 5'2). If these criteria are met or not, I can determine at a glance, in a fraction of a second. Then comes stage 2 where I find out if he's also a kind and interesting guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 12:19 PM |
| 3 | FwB is a way better litmus test than Hookups for men to determine whether they are her true physical & sexual type or just seen as beta buxx / husband materialThe only constellation I see "beta bux" situations happen is older women who desperately want children and don't think they can raise them on their own. In any other case, dead bedrooms are more likely due to - women's libido decrease in long term monogamy - relationship issues leading to a decrease in her wanting to fuck him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 12:05 PM |
| 1 | If women have equal or more libido than men, why do they...Correct. 1-3% per year might not sound like much (personally, I think it does) but if you plan on having sex for the next ten years, that risk accumulates to 10-30%. So, to be reasonably safe (= a cumulative risk under 1% for ten years), one needs to combine two at least moderately safe options (usually condom + IUD/pill/patch). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 11:29 AM |
| – | Husband materialYeah, definitely. "Settling" is cruel for all parties involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 11:20 AM |
| 1 | Husband materialI'm 35 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/25 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Husband materialNah, I'm not going to choose a guy whom I don't find physically attractive. I'm not opposed to dating another cute chill guy. Chill guy should just be realistic enough to admit that children wouldn't be a good choice for us. Because I'm not going to pick up the slack. Kids are only in the cards if the guy is sexy and I believe that he'll be a very involved father. Last but not least, staying single is also a viable option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/25 09:26 PM |
| 3 | It's sad that women have been conditioned to be self serving and overly interested in men's money and resources.I mean that's it, right? I'll never understand the "but if you won't date ... you might miss out on a great partner!" crowd. Well, there are thousands of great potential partners out there who meet all my most important criteria, so why compromise? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/25 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Husband materialI hoped that I could make it work. Like most people do when they're emotionally involved. I also ended the relationship because he wanted kids and I didn’t. Mainly because I think neither one of us was ready for the responsibility as we both struggled with basic chores. I just had less illusions about it. I also feared that the brunt of carework would fall on my shoulders as women are still expected to be the default parent. A healthy long term relationship needs the full package to work: sexual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/25 05:09 PM |
| 2 | Rarely have women meet men that are truly unlucky with women. Its usually something he’s doing wrong.I think OPs assumption holds true for both genders. If you have a bunch of people spend some time with person A, who's involuntary single, I'm pretty sure that the group will come to very similar conclusions why A has difficulties dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 11:23 AM |
| 1 | Husband materialMmh, maybe you need to have lived that reality, too, to disagree. I once had a boyfriend for two years who I considered sexy af and who was also kind. However, I eventually came to the conclusion that while he was "hookup material", I didn't see him as "husband material". Against his assurances, I just didn't believe he'd put in enough effort in regards of childcare, housekeeping or even providing. I don't think that telling him how much of a great hookup he was (and I indeed told him how good t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 10:59 AM |
| 60 | As a bi woman, dating women is way harder than dating men.I've heard that in the gay community casual sex is easy to come by but commitment much harder to find. And physical attractiveness seems to be paramount. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 06:52 AM |
| 3 | Do you oppose or support men being able to legally cut ties with children not biologically their’s in the case of late stage paternity misattribution?Maybe. I think in reality, there's the whole spectrum from - secret affair, the woman knows the kid's not his and intentionally lies. - it was messy all around, everyone was on and off. Nobody knows, nobody asks. Kid has green eyes like dad, so it must be his, right? (Everyone hopes it is) - They weren't monogamous, he knew, nobody asked about paternity Where I live (western Europe), there's a legal right to know your ancestry. The right was introduced to prevent anonymous sperm donations as it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Do you oppose or support men being able to legally cut ties with children not biologically their’s in the case of late stage paternity misattribution?There are several cases where the woman was intimate with more than one man around the time of conception, so they all could potentially be the child's father. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 07:04 PM |
| 1 | How important is physical fitness to you?Thank you, louder for the people in the back, please. Being fit and having a slim figure are correlated but it's not the same. Just say what you really want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/25 08:33 AM |
| 5 | Do you oppose or support men being able to legally cut ties with children not biologically their’s in the case of late stage paternity misattribution?Yes, there should be no legal obligations. Regarding money already spent: I think the money needed to come from the biological father. I would also matter if the mother knew that the man was not the biological father and actively tried to deceive him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 11:32 PM |
| 4 | Complaining about accountability and nagging, means you don't understand relationshipsI should have clarified: it's disrespectful if person A complains about feeling disrespected, person B agrees to not do it again but then repeatedly does do it again. If both partners don't reach a compromise because their understanding of cleanliness/orderliness differs too much, they're likely not compatible long term and should consider a break up. Because, of course, it's also disrespectful to constantly criticise your partner for doing things you told them you were able to live with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/25 07:22 PM |
| 4 | Complaining about accountability and nagging, means you don't understand relationshipsIt IS a lack of respect if your partner told you in no uncertain terms why it's really important to you and you still decide to do it/not do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/25 03:18 PM |
| – | Actual good men dont envy scumbags and felons. Nor do they want the women these men attract.No, I just know that there's no free lunch. Everything comes at a price. Doing OF might pay more money but I'd also have to present myself naked online with all the world - including friends, family and acquaintances - to see. If I had put my everything to it, I could also have possibly become a trophy wife with the option to never work a day in my life again. But I have no interest in being a kept woman. Among the options that I had, I chose this 9 to 5 job (with six weeks of holiday). Because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/25 02:56 PM |
| – | Actual good men dont envy scumbags and felons. Nor do they want the women these men attract.Yeah, I'm not interested in yachting in Dubai. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/25 02:45 PM |
| 11 | How can men be physically sexy in a tasteful way? Do you think "being sexy" is a social skill?Absolutely this 👆🏻 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/25 08:21 AM |
| 1 | What motivates you to be monogamous vs ENM?A new convert to Christianity would also have been challenged by a stricter standard of sexual behavior within marriage, especially for men. In the Hebrew Bible and in Roman law, adultery was defined as sexual relations between a married or betrothed woman and a man who was not her husband. In this case both the man and the woman were considered guilty of adultery. If a married man had sex with an unmarried woman who was not his wife, however, this was not considered adultery; and in Roman cultu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/25 04:36 AM |
| 1 | Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually?Because supply and demand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/25 04:00 AM |
| 41 | If you believe in "Nobody is entitled to a Relationship" and "Nobody is owed anything in a Relationship" then you believe in the following:Yeah. That was easy. 😄 I don't see value in persuading someone to stay with me who doesn't want to. And I'm not desperate enough to stay in a relationship and suffer. I'd thank them for being upfront and leave. Because what's really terrible are negotiated desire, saying yes but meaning no, feet dragging etc. Be honest (no reason to be mean) and we're fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/25 03:59 AM |
| 0 | Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually?But I thought Chad doesn't commit, because he doesn't have to? So, there's no information how Chad would fare in a LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 06:49 PM |
| 5 | Do women have a kind of "Madonna/whore" complex but toward men? A "bad boy/doting husband" complex?I don't do hookups but if I did, I think the main difference would be that it wouldn't matter if we hold shared life goals, ideals etc. because that doesn't matter for a night. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually?If she's in a LTR with Chad, it does. Do you honestly believe that a man can be so hot that he makes his partner forgot all her worries? Cure all her headaches? 😄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually?The substack "article" is merely an opinion piece by a person who calls themselves "blackpilledpaki". That's no reliable source. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 06:29 PM |
| 0 | Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually?Problem is when it's the only measurement. Not least because it dismisses that she might not be up for sex for reasons that have nothing to do with how physically attractive she finds him: stress at work, exhaustion from childcare, still pondering about your last fight, winter depression etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 06:04 PM |
| – | Its very rare for a man to find a woman who genuinely likes him for who he is as a human being, instead of what he provides.This. Both are a reduction to the absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 10:00 AM |
| 1 | What motivates you to be monogamous vs ENM?Matthew 5:27-28 27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. That puts the bar very low. Anyway, Christianity - or rather its different flavours - is more than just the bible. It's a whole set of bible interpretations, beliefs and rules (that also changed over time). I could find no source that, in Christianity, it's not adultery if it's only the man who's m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 09:56 AM |
| 0 | Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually?Well, as this sub doesn't get tired of telling us, loneliness is no issue for women. At any given time, she apparently has dozens of orbiters to choose from and friendzoned guy to validate her. Regarding money and kids: it would be easier to just divorce the guy once she has all the kids she wants and "divorce rape" him. No need to stay in a sexually unfullfilling relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 09:23 AM |
| 2 | Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually?I think the problem is that some men view sex as a reward and the only measurement for a woman's attraction to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually?How does this contradict anything I said? In this case, she's hooking up with the young guy, not trying to lead a LTR with him. For just sex, physical attractiveness and being good in bed are the only criteria that matter - for men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 09:14 AM |
| 1 | Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually?If my wife isn't doing the chores around the house, at night when she wants to fuck, I won't tell her "Because you didn't do xyz, I don't want to have sex with you either". I won't because at least she's taking care of some need. Because you are a man... If physical attractiveness was the only relevant criterion to keep a woman sexually interested in a LTR that's a pretty easy recipe for success, right? And while it may seem that hitting the gym works to rekindle the fire - and it does - you're … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 09:11 AM |
| 1 | Why do women say they want one thing but actually respond to the complete opposite thing?Have you watched or read "Outlander"? I think the main male character, Jamie, is many women's dream guy. He's very masculine (physically attractive, provider and protector type) but also a family man and in touch with his feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 01:34 AM |
| 1 | What motivates you to be monogamous vs ENM?I'm probably somewhere on the ace spectrum. The idea of a romantically committed partner who gets his sexual needs met elsewhere sounds appealing. Basically: you can fuck anyone as long as it's not me. 😄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 01:29 AM |
| 1 | What motivates you to be monogamous vs ENM?Nah. Christianity, during most of it's history, has condemned adultery for all involved. It was civil law that was more lenient towards men. "The main difference and conflict between religious laws and civil laws is the lack of a double standard in religious adultery laws." https://sites.up.edu/earlybritishsurvey/adultery-in-the-middle-ages/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 01:26 AM |
| 13 | Is it common for women to settle for their partners, especially sexually?No, because why would a woman knowingly condemn herself to a bad sex life? However what is true: - Women's desire is much more dependent on the relationship quality than men's. If she's not feeling connected, she won't want to sleep with him. She will also not want to sleep with him, if familiarity is too high and excitement too low, because: - Women's desire is much more affected by monogamy than men's She would have tired of "Chad" from her youth just as much as you, had she married him. Becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 12:57 AM |
| – | If You’re a “High Value Man” You Will Only Accept a Relationship with 2 Types of WomenI think pretty much everything exists under our sun. There are rich guys who want a wife of a similar status to be a "power couple", those who want the hottest woman as a trophy wife and those who've got so much money that they're just looking for someone they enjoy spending time with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 12:45 PM |
| 15 | Is there any evidence that conservative men prefer liberal women?I think there are quite a lot of men who claim they are conservative but don't really want a conservative/traditional relationship when they realize how much pressure it puts on them. Being the sole breadwinner is stressful and so is being responsible for all the big decisions. So, a woman who's independent enough to actually be a partner is pretty attractive for many. BTW, it's the same way with women. Quite a lot of progressive "strong independent women" realise that it's nice to have a partne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 12:07 PM |
| 4 | Guys here seem to have a massive halo effect for the women they desire.This. Everytime I hear "Well, I just want a cute girlfriend, is that too much to ask for?", I cringe. Because "cute" is a girl who's at least a 6 on their SMV scale, which is above avarage. Assuming, they're really "avarage guys" that statement alone shows they're trying to punch above their weight. And while for some guys attraction of the opposite sex is easy to determine (basically physical attractiveness only), they find it difficult to understand that the matrix for many women is a differen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 11:53 AM |
| -1 | Guys here seem to have a massive halo effect for the women they desire.Redpillers should have to pay 50 cents every time they use "solipsism"... /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 11:44 AM |
| 3 | Where did the whole “women love bad boys” thing even come from? How true do you think it is?Thanks, that was an interesting read! Regarding attachment (see the discussion part, can't copy), I think the author misses the forest for the trees. He basically found out/got confirmed, that more avoidant women had less interest in all male prototypes while more anxious women had a greater interest in all male prototypes. Which seems pretty logical. Anxious people (I prefer "preoccupied") are way more eager to get into relationships (and thus get their needs for external reassurance/validation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 11:07 AM |
| 0 | Women sometimes contribute to themselves being ghosted, cheated on, & dumped...Yeah, but in this case you just have to inform your partner that you'll be seeking sexual fulfilment somewhere else. Boom, cheating prevented. Now, the ball is in their court and they can decide if they want to stay in an opened relationship. There's nearly never an excuse for cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 07:27 AM |
| – | Sexual interactions shouldn't be limited by relationships.So you wanna fuck your mom? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/25 05:25 PM |
| 5 | Women can seem unapproachable these days hence why we don’t do it.Yeah, there a guys who are considered physically so attractive that they can hardly say anything wrong. And yeah, there are guys who are considered so unattractive that they can be as confident, charming and funny as they want but will still be rejected. However, a big chunk of guys doesn't fall into either of these groups. For them, it does matter how they carry themselves. In these cases, behaviour makes a huge difference. I'm pretty sure you've met men yourself who - while not conventionally … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/25 10:40 PM |
| 8 | Women can seem unapproachable these days hence why we don’t do it.Haha, what?! How is flirting with confidence bootlicking? Care to entertain us how a good cold approach looks like, according to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/25 10:03 PM |
| 15 | Women can seem unapproachable these days hence why we don’t do it.The main problem with cold approaches is how they're usually executed: Guy: "Hey, I've been watching from over there (ick 1) and I think you're really cute (ick 2). Can I have your number? (ick 3)" A good cold approach, however, is creating interest and making an offer to her for getting to know you, not you "catching" her: Guy: "Have you ever seen them live?" [pointing to girl's band shirt] ... Yeah, me neither. I think they're great but to be honest I like ... even better. ... Gotta go now. If… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/25 08:56 PM |
| 6 | People pleasing is a form of “toxic femininity”I think I need an example, OP, or I don't get what you mean | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/25 08:15 PM |
| – | Do you ever get tired of compliments?Genuine compliments without an ulterior motif are welcome. "You are beautiful/cute/sexy", "I love your eyes/smile" as pick up lines make me shudder. First, it's super impersonal (are there people who have ugly eyes?), second, yeah, if it weren't so you wouldn't have approached me. It adds zero new information or rather negative info: that you possess very little creativity and people skills. How about an indirect approach to get us talking? To find out if there's actually more than just physical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Marriage Is Clearly Illogical for Men Given The StatisticsSo you don't even need to worry, perfect! If it's that easy, I'm wondering what all the fuss of this thread is about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 06:52 PM |
| 2 | Marriage Is Clearly Illogical for Men Given The StatisticsIf you insist on dying on that hill 🤷🏻♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Marriage Is Clearly Illogical for Men Given The StatisticsMusks exes are far from ordinary themselves. They are successful novelists, actresses or singers. Each millionaires on their own, before Musk. But I don't get why you insist on debating absolute fringe cases. And as the richest man of the US, Musk undeniably is a fringe case. Even the top 1% of earners in the US, "only" make about 800.000 $ on avarage per year, around 300.000 for the top 5%. Median income for male workers is about 67.000 $. Those are the numbers that concern most people. Avarage… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 06:20 PM |
| 2 | My friends GF broke up with him because he only has a part time jobI don't want kids or move in with a man. So, as long as I don't have to support him financially, I'd be fine with it. However, I'd like to see some passion and ambition with all the free time he has, be it playing in a band, making indie films, studying etc. And no, passionate gaming doesn't count. 😄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Marriage Is Clearly Illogical for Men Given The StatisticsElon Musk marrying a random girl, yes that's the avarage case. 😄 /s Anyway, if you're a high earner that usually corresponds with a lot of working hours per week, let's say 60-80. So, for about 80 hours a week (let's say including commuting time) you can't look after your kids. If the other parent doesn't stay at home, you need external help. Since employees have a right to weekends, holidays and are sometimes sick, we're looking at 2-3 people just employed for childcare. Since childcarers aren'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 05:20 PM |
| – | Women don't really want equality relationships as evidenced by women in societyDo you purposefully want to misunderstand what I'm saying? Among other chores, the garden needs to be taken care of and so does cooking. Partner 1 enjoys cooking, so they take over most of the cooking. Partner 2 likes gardening, so they do most of the gardening. Such a distribution of chores is still compatible with an egalitarian relationship, even if both partners don't each do 50% of the cooking and 50% of the gardening. I bet that in most relationships, some specialisation is taking place. B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 02:14 PM |
| 2 | A relationship should last a minimum of four years before marriage and preferably sevenMany, many, divorced people I met enjoyed seeing their kids only 50% of the time a lot. Because it finally gives you some me-time. It even made me wonder how many marriages could have been saved if the partners had that much time for themselves while married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 09:09 AM |
| 1 | A relationship should last a minimum of four years before marriage and preferably sevenIf you have millions to give away, poverty seems far away. I'd feel pretty secure and willing to take some risks with that kind of financial cushion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 09:06 AM |
| – | Women don't really want equality relationships as evidenced by women in societyleading an equal relationship doesn't necessarily mean splitting each and every chore 50/50. There are people who like cooking and those who enjoy yardwork. It's okay to "trade" these chores. you can lead an egalitarian relationship and still play around with traditional gender roles. BDSM would be an extreme example. Valentine's day is stupid and a strange example to undergird your argument | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 08:42 AM |
| 20 | Marriage Is Clearly Illogical for Men Given The StatisticsYes, women are usually the ones to initiate the divorce. Because they're less willing than men to stay in unhappy relationships is my theory. Divorce is usually a big financial gain for the woman and big financial loss for the man. Again, only if you consider the assets acquired during marriage as his financial gain (income) and her contributions (childcare) as of no value. Btw, women are usually poorer than men after a divorce (absolute amount of money vs relative financial gain/loss), which is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Women , would you hook up with/date someone who doesn't share your political beliefs?I don't think that someone voting for a specific party tells me enough about their personality. There are too many different issues at play and people vote for the same party for very different reasons. I'm certain I'll find compatible people among nearly every votership. I don't get along well with people who view the world as black and white. I think most issues are very complex and require nuance. So, someone who's a 100% voter for party XY likely isn't a good fit. Viewing the political oppon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 01:57 PM |
| 14 | Marriage Is Clearly Illogical for Men Given The StatisticsYeah, because usually the woman did more childrearing and housekeeping, enabling him to get into a higher paying position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Fix for dating and loneliness lies in valuing happy singledom (mostly for men)If women aren't attracted to simps (which I agree with), how are simps collaterally tanking it for other men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Fix for dating and loneliness lies in valuing happy singledom (mostly for men)Yes, that's what we should do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 11:56 AM |
| 2 | Heterosexuality is not sustainable by red pill logic.I'm not sure hunting was that dangerous (but certainly strenuous). I think the most often hunted animals were small mammals, fish, birds and deer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 10:40 AM |
| – | Telling women not to change for men is actually toxic adviceWomen are rarely withholding, they simply feel no desire to give it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Heterosexuality is not sustainable by red pill logic.I think it only makes sense that able bodied women hunted, too. A huge part of your tribe at any given time couldn't hunt as they were too young, too old, injured, ill or heavily pregnant. That doesn't leave a lot of youngish fit people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 09:54 AM |
| 44 | Marriage Is Clearly Illogical for Men Given The StatisticsI'm no fan of marriage either but I don't understand the notion that it disadvantages men in particular. When you're married, you build wealth (or debt!) together, so it's only fair that the assets accumulated once marriage are split 50/50 after a divorce. You can mitigate the risk of owing your ex money by marrying someone of similar status and income and not lead a breadwinner/stay at home parent lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/25 09:48 AM |
| – | Why do women seem to struggle to honestly admit to preferences which might be considered shallow?By this logic, women should demand him paying everything to filter out the ones who'd settle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 09:44 AM |
| – | Why do women seem to struggle to honestly admit to preferences which might be considered shallow?This! I prefer guys with a "teddy look" (muscles, fat and body hair, 5'7 or taller) but I must lieying. Because, all women want shredded, hairless 666 guys... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/25 09:35 AM |
| 1 | Women Have Become Much More Commitment Phobic Now that Social Media and Dating Apps ExistIt seems you want to date young, physically very attractive women (with lots of options), who like to party, are carefree and fun. And then you act surprised that these women don't want to drop that lifestyle to be in a committed relationship with you. Plese, help me understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 01:36 PM |
| 1 | For those of you who wait to have sex, what influenced you to make this decision for yourself?A bit? But I've just stopped dating for now and am considering if an asexual partner might be a better fit for me anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 09:42 AM |
| 5 | Why do you guys want to be providers ?At least you're honest! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/25 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Why do you guys want to be providers ?Mean take: - Men want the provider role so they can do less at home - They use it as leverage: "Look, how I'm slaving away for you!" - They find climbing the career ladder less uncomfortable than doing emotional work (which would really make them attractive) and think they can work/buy their way into being desired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/25 11:58 PM |
| 2 | For those of you who wait to have sex, what influenced you to make this decision for yourself?Fear of pregnancy. I mean, that shit is life-altering, no matter the outcome. Also, I'm against abortion, so I'd be stuck with the kid - and, as an extension - with the guy. Social circle/shared hobbies only. I want to watch him interact with others for an extended period of time without the pressure of dating. Weeks, months. Until I feel he's "safe" and can handle the responsibility of sex. No. Since my mind needs to be aroused first, I rely on deep talks and flirting to build a connection. [do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/25 11:29 PM |
| – | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieThanks for the extensive reply and the literature recommendations, will check them out! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/25 11:20 PM |
| 2 | RP isn’t synonymous with incels and hating women. RP discussion is best when based on observations of the reality we navigate, entirely free of judgment or bitternessI find it most astonishingly what redpill does NOT talk about. Many issues are not due to gender issues but other psychological factors. E.g. I practically never see RP guys talk about attachment theory when I see so many stories told by redpill guys that indicate such a dynamic going on (with the male partner playing the preoccupied part, persuing an avoidant woman). My hypothesis is that RP attracts a specific subset of men, thus their experience that "all men are like this and even more "AWAL… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 06:12 PM |
| -1 | Single parenthood is bad for the kids.So, in other words, "pick better" wasn't the issue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 05:53 PM |
| 3 | Women don’t like being friends with guys who don’t want themYeah, the ideal opposite sex friend is in a happy relationship or gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 10:16 PM |
| 4 | Women don’t like being friends with guys who don’t want themThen, I guess, we have a gender-reversed friendzone situation here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 10:13 PM |
| 1 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieHow do you mean "Darcy doesn't exist?". Is this your opinion or what you think feminists would say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 10:00 PM |
| 1 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieI don't understand how foregoing premarital sex is supposed to change anything? The novelty will still wear off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 09:47 PM |
| 5 | The lack of shame is causing a destruction of the traditional dating structure and people have no idea how to move forwardYeah, it's pretty fucking awesome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 08:07 PM |
| 6 | Marriage is unattractive for higher earners or providers because of outdated legal elements that aren’t compatible with social norms.Take my poor woman's gold. 👏 That's everything that needs to be said. I don't understand why so many guys don't get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Marriage is unattractive for higher earners or providers because of outdated legal elements that aren’t compatible with social norms.I don't find these mens' partner choices too surprising. While very wealthy, they have little formel education and will prefer a wife who's on the "same level" and enjoys similar things in life. They're also looking for a woman who follows them around while raising the kids, so she shouldn't have her own career ambitions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 07:58 PM |
| 5 | Marriage is unattractive for higher earners or providers because of outdated legal elements that aren’t compatible with social norms.Yes, that's why it has become more and more common to marry someone with a similar socio-economic background. Not sure why you don't wanna hear that? Alternative approach: cut hours (more free-time!) and earn less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 07:48 PM |
| 2 | I feel that TRP is a little hypocritical for obsessing over female weight but at the same time acting like women are shallow monsters for rejecting the boring guyNah, I actually agree with RP's "you can't negotiate attraction". But if you're raising a family together and been through some shit, I find it strange if the definition of attractive is very narrow. I mean, weight gain is a spectrum. Slightly overweight is not the same as morbidly obese. To compare it to a man's earning potential: it's like a spectrum between moderately less income and unemployed. If a guy had to abandon his high paying CEO job because it was just too stressful working days and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 07:15 PM |
| – | I feel that TRP is a little hypocritical for obsessing over female weight but at the same time acting like women are shallow monsters for rejecting the boring guyRed pillers seem to hold a grudge against overweight women as, in their opinion, it skews the SMV distribution. They complain that young women are "automatically" in the top 5-10% if not overweight and thus seek the top 5-10% of male partners. Like usual, it's a sense of entitlement. Red pillers feel entitled to dating slim, young women. Gaining weight in a relationship is practically the biggest insult (after cheating) a woman can do to her partner. Because, how dare they ruin his arm candy. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 11:36 PM |
| 1 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieOf course, they can and hopefully do enjoy their marriage (while it lasts) on a personal level. I think marriage should die as a societal construct because it no longer serves its own purpose (= lifelong economic partnership). You can nowadays get divorced for any reason and many people do so. So, to pretend that marriage is this lifelong commitment when in nearly half of the cases it's not, is dishonest. And it's even more dishonest when basically everyone agrees that it doesn't have to be a li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 02:31 PM |
| 3 | Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”?And I sometimes envy you guys for how clear-cut it is apparently for many of you. 😄 BTW, in this specific case (romantic interest in a friend), we haven't even touched upon relationship compatibility in regards of similar lifestyles and live goals. I can have a friend whom I even find sexually attractive and we get along great but I'd never consider him a romantic prospect as I couldn't live with his constant partying, over cleanliness, smoking, want for kids etc. etc. The list is endless. I mea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 12:59 PM |
| 5 | Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”?Aesthetic attraction is not the same as sexual attraction. Just because someone is good-looking and you like spending time with them does not automatically make them a romantic interest. I absolutely agree with you that a romantic relationship is not solely defined by sex. Otherwise, every fwb situation would be a romantic relationship which it is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 11:58 AM |
| 3 | Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”?I understand why that may be the case for many people but it's not an universal experience. When I have a crush on somebody, I feel like it's a possibility. But I can also decide not to go further down that road and explore those feelings. As long as the romantic relationship hasn't begun, it's only a fantasy anyway. I don't know how we'd really be like a couple as a friendship and romance are quite different. Sadly, that also means just because you're good friends doesn't guarantee you'll be go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 11:39 AM |
| 12 | Why is it that if a man fell in love with his female friend, then it is believed that he just “wanted to get into her pants”?Not necessarily. She may also not want a romantic relationship at the moment for other reasons (that may have to do nothing with him). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 11:31 AM |
| 2 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieAgree, that's why I find it so strange to pretend otherwise or musings about how to bring back "real marriage" if that's not really what anyone wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 11:27 AM |
| 1 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieCouples are not helpless victims of "growing apart". They should take time for each other, pay attention to each other and talk with each other. I agree with you that people can choose to put in effort. But I also believe it's possible to put in effort and still lose the romantic connection. I'm not even saying that you stop loving the other person. But love is a vast field with many different meanings. You can respect someone and love them as a human being without sexually desiring them. And th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 12:59 AM |
| 3 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieWhen you're married, you build together. So, it's only fair that assets acquired during the marriage are split 50/50. The best antidote against having to pay your ex-partner money is living an egalitarian relationship and voting for politics that support this. And when you're living an egalitarian relationship, it doesn't really matter if you're married or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 12:44 AM |
| 2 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieSo, mentally stable people can't grow apart? I don't think that people have to be able to keep their romantic love alive to be good parents. If that's the criterion, a terribly huge number of people fails at being good parents (not to mention the parents who fail for other reasons). I think what makes a good parent (among other factors) is their ability to keep a functional relationship with the other parent NO MATTER if they're still in romantic love with them to provide stability for their chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 12:33 AM |
| -1 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieA fantasy, as are "happily ever after" marriages on a large scale. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 12:21 AM |
| 2 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieSo, how should marriage look like? How would you like to see the laws changed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 12:06 AM |
| 3 | (Traditional) marriage is outdated and should dieWhile I agree that a two-parent household with parents who love each other is the ideal, we should acknowledge and prepare for the very likely case that this won't happen. I think people having to be less dependent on their spouse would be a good start. Implement paid parental leave, affordable childcare and laws that create working conditions that allow people to work and care for their kids. Otherwise, you'll be stuck with men complaining about having to pay child support and women facing pove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/25 12:01 AM |
| 4 | The Provider Man Model No Longer Works in Modern Western Relationships. It's a scam.I agree with your notion, OP, that there should be less gender roles expectations. I hope that you put your money where your mouth is and vote for politicians who support strong social politics, especially paid parental leave, affordable childcare and flexible working conditions. Because that's what you're gonna need if you want more egalitarian families. If there's very little support for families, it only makes sense for women to look for men who have good provider abilities as they're gonna d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/25 10:52 PM |
| 4 | Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates.Is there any real-world example for your assertion? Concerning the US, the country is still popular with migrants. As long as immigration is managed in a productive fashion (choosing qualified people and making sure that they adhere to the law), a decline in fertility does also not mean a decline in population or a lack of workers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/25 10:02 PM |
| 6 | Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates.What do you mean by "a country stopping to exist"? The Roman Empire or the Soviet Union as states ceased to exist but the people and their culture didn’t. When countries fall into chaos, it's usually due to war and/or an instable government but not due to a gradual process like a declining fertility rate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/25 11:34 AM |
| 3 | Everyone is wrong about the reason for declining fertility rates.Contraception (pull-out, non penetrative sex) has been around for hundreds of years. So has been abortion and even infanticide. So, people weren't necessarily stuck with each pregnancy, at least not in every culture at every time. There were times in ancient Rome, when the fertility rate of the nobles dropped so far that it worried government. While contraception certainly plays an important role (but especially concerning premarital sex), I don't think it's the deciding factor. I think what's m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/25 11:08 AM |
| 1 | Would you take a lie detector test to prove you love your partner?"Love" is such a broad concept, I'd welcome a machine that unmistakably conveys how I feel love for a partner. This machine would hopefully be able to explain to a hypothetical partner that I don't really ever experience sexual attraction and that thus my "lust" would be a bad indicator for my love. Concerning the specific examples: in my last relationship, I would have passed the test with flying colours and yet I still decided to end it due to a lack of love how I want to feel it. I consider m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Would you support men having the right to “abdicate” a pregnancy?Yeah, as long as the child support is provided by society (tax-payers). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 09:04 PM |
| – | How can a man not feel worse when he realizes that his girlfriend/wife behaves more restrictedly and less passionately with him than with her past partners?Well, how should she appreciate him in this case? By agreeing to unwanted sex acts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 07:46 PM |
| – | How can a man not feel worse when he realizes that his girlfriend/wife behaves more restrictedly and less passionately with him than with her past partners?I don't understand what the point of monogamy has to do with it. If your wife/girlfriend doesn't want sex act XY in a relationship and you agreed to be monogamous, you don't get XY. How does the knowledge that she did XY in a past relationship change anything? It's not even like it was an option removed from the menu from the current relationship. You never experienced XY with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 06:40 PM |
| – | How can a man not feel worse when he realizes that his girlfriend/wife behaves more restrictedly and less passionately with him than with her past partners?Because there's a faulty premise at the core of this question and a rather toxic one at once: If your partner doesn't want to do sex acts with you because she doesn't desire them anymore, it just means that she's changed/grown as a person and that she has healthy boundaries (= not agreeing to unwanted sex acts). If you learn that your partner agreed to unwanted sex acts in the past because she was manipulated into them/afraid of losing the relationship and you now demand the same, you're just as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 04:44 PM |
| – | How can a man not feel worse when he realizes that his girlfriend/wife behaves more restrictedly and less passionately with him than with her past partners?An analogy: Let's say you really love playing video games and wish your girlfriend shared that hobby. One day, you find out she once was an avid gamer girl, too. You confront her with this knowledge and she doesn't deny it. She explains that while she really was into gaming a few years ago, she just really isn't anymore. It's a thing of the past for her. I understand how one can feel a bit sad at that situation, that you basically missed each other. But feeling resentful? No, I don't get that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 04:23 PM |
| 2 | It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching pornYou can have all the preferences in the world and communicate them to your partner. But in a healthy relationship, you also have to be able to accept a "no" without whining, complaining, badgering, blackmailing etc. Then, it's on you again what you make out of that "no": stay and accept or leave. Edit: And for the next dating attempt it might be a good idea to be aware of your preferences. If porn consumption is a deal-breaker, date people who share that value. Also be aware that the more deal-b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 04:04 PM |
| 7 | Why you have to work harder than your grandfather (and what to do about it)Agree, in former times I would have probably married without questioning that decision much. Nowadays, since I can earn my own money, I decided against it. It's not that I think there aren't any "good men". But living as a couple requires constant negotiation and consideration. I find that tiresome and rather avoid it. Sure, should I once meet someone where I think that endeavour will be worthwhile, I'm not totally opposed to coupling up. But it has to be a really, really good deal. Otherwise, I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?As I think I live in a pretty gender equal society/circle/bubble, I don't think my life would be much different, all else being equal. I guess, as a man I would have put a bit more effort into career success instead of choosing a job that's accomodating to raising children, when I was still considering that option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 01:10 PM |
| 5 | Do you actually think life would be easier if you were a man in this age ?I think the issue is that many men view sex as the catch all solution. Sex is a proxy for feeling accepted, validated and loved. Often, only when men experience sex without intimacy, they realise there's nuance. Just go look at men in dead bedroom subs. When their wife/gf finally agrees to (more) sex, but they realise it's well-performed duty sex, they notice it's still not enough. Because it never really was about sex in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 11:14 AM |
| 1 | How have women evolved with hypergamous selection if they haven’t had a choice in their mate until modern era?Early humans lived in groups of 30-50 individuals afaik. Paternity was not important as long as it wasn't incest. Men and women who liked each other had sex, everyone in the tribe raised the resulting offspring. Of course, women had choice. Violence against members of the tribe would have likely gotten you expelled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 08:03 PM |
| 2 | Destigmatizing sex work empowers both genders.Multiple things can be true at the same time: - sex work is not easy. It's emotionally taxing, physically strenuous and risky (STIs, violence) - The stigma should go as it's hypocritical. If people use the services of sex workers/porn stars, there's no reason to look down on them. - Sex work is a reality. To wish it away is delusional. Legalisation give sex workers rights (health care, conracting etc.). - While there shouldn't be a stigma, sex work is not like any other work. There should be soc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 05:55 PM |
| 2 | There are no consequences to being a "bad person" and no incentives to be a "good person" when dating for short-term.A good start is often: I treat people how I want to be treated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Urging your lover to lose weight would be more okay if you insist on exercising and dieting with her/him.I think there are two kinds of people: 1) Those, for whom physical appearance is extremely important and who are a great deal into fitness and nutrition. 2) People who have a more relaxed approach Neither is right or wrong. Just communicate your preferences early on and don't hide your wants behind concern trolling ("I just want him to be healthy"). As someone with a history of disordered eating, I'd not date someone who's attraction to me depends on not gaining 10 pounds (I'm not talking about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/24 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Sex in a relationship is important, and the views of both people in a couple on sex are extremely importantIt's interesting you frame it as a "power dynamic". Just because someone is content with less in a relationship that doesn't make them automatically have the upper hand. You still have agency, too. In fact, as someone who's avoidant, this "power" doesn't feel like power at all but like a debt. Your partner declaring how much they need you doesn't feel empowering but suffocating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/24 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Doing things for women makes them less attracted to you.Sounds like you're trying to turn a fwb/fuckbuddy into more or at least that's how the women are perceiving it. And they just want you for something casual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/24 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree or disagree with these widely debated Red Pill statements about women?I can only answer for myself (35, single). And the answer to all your statements, honestly, is "not true". Young women (all young people actually) are likely more insecure and might worry about their self-worth. However, once you reach middle adulthood, you should have become more secure in yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/24 06:44 PM |
| 34 | Men are having bad sex, and it is not talked about.Why have sex with someone who apparently doesn't really want it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/24 10:30 PM |
| – | Men are so hypocritical when it comes to sex (or not having it)People in the past married much younger (women usually in their early twenties), so they didn’t have to wait so long. Historically, many brides were also pregnant on their wedding day or the couple had to marry because the woman was pregnant. And these are only the "failed cases", so much more people had premarital sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/24 12:46 AM |
| 41 | If Cinderella is the fairytale of a low SMV woman capturing a top 20% man. Then what is male equivalent fairytale for men's struggles?Media with a "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" to support the male protagonist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Pixie_Dream_Girl Mainstream porn and social media porn (unironically). Women who'd fight each other to give hour long blowjobs are rather rare in reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 07:15 AM |
| – | Feminists are only interested in the idea of choice when it comes to womenBodily autonomy is about bodily autonomy and nothing else. Men have or should have the same rights in this regard. This is why I'm against the draft, as war poses the substantial risk of being injured/maimed. I think it's a tragedy how normalised abortion is today. In my eyes, abortion is not a morally neutral action like birth control options that work before conception. At least in the current system, "paper abortions" likely would lead to even more abortions as a woman who raises the child ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 06:26 AM |
| – | Without paper abortions there is no equality. Especially under capitalismWell, you have to cover the basic needs first. I think it should also not be underestimated how much "basic needs covered" prevents assistance down the line being needed. Early interventions are usually more effective and cheaper. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 05:43 PM |
| – | Without paper abortions there is no equality. Especially under capitalismTaxpayer money should not be used to pay for you and your partners sexual decision. This is such a strange take to me. I mean we're not talking about financing the life-long costs for an HIV treatment, contracted by sex. We're talking about raising a future member of society. A future worker, tax-payer, parent etc. Society profits from people raising children. Therefore I see no problem with society paying for this contribution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 12:18 PM |
| 8 | Why are so many women in their 30s and 40s single, childless, and dissatisfied with their dating prospects?I'm 35, single and without children, so I guess I fit the bill. Until 30, having kids was a no-go for me because I just didn't feel ready to care for a totally dependent little human. Since then, I've softened a bit and came to find babies rather adorable. However, if I think about what the reality of having a family entails, I still don't really want it. I'm a highly avoidant person and feel suffocated in close relationships rather quickly. Living with a child and husband would probably trigger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 10:52 PM |
| 5 | Women fundamentally don’t understand why men care about how women treated their exes1) Please look into attachment theory and check if the description of "preoccupied attachment" resonates with you. Non-preoccupied people don't constantly ruminate about the question if they're their partner's favourite. 2) Wanting your partner to inconvenience themselves as a proof of love also sounds unhealthy. So, you've never thought about doing X with your partner because it doesn't appeal to you or her. But now that you've learned she did it with an ex you also want to try it? Make it make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 10:35 PM |
| 5 | Women fundamentally don’t understand why men care about how women treated their exesWhich is especially crazy if you consider that it's totally normal for most women to experience a drop in libido in ANY long term relationship once the honeymoon period is over, no matter how good-looking the guy is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 10:25 PM |
| 2 | At what age does a man living with his parents becomes a red flag, ick or deal breaker?I don't have a problem with it per se. I have my own rented flat, so there's enough privacy. My ex still lived with his family at 30. The issue was that he lived there like a teenager without any responsibilities. His mom cooked for him, cleaned for him and did his laundry. He had very little understanding for when I needed to do housework instead of entertaining him. I was afraid that if the relationship continued and we'd move in together, he wouldn't pull his weight at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Older, single cat ladies are not who manospherians say they areThe gender ratio in nursing homes is definitely in mens' favours 😌 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Feminists fearing and resenting men they never met is called sexism (II)I've got no idea what the Mike Pence rule is, so have no opinion on it 🤷🏻♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 05:05 PM |
| 2 | Why are so many women in their 30s and 40s single, childless, and dissatisfied with their dating prospects?Again, we shouldn't assume causation. I think what's rather happening is that healthy, happy people have it easier to find a partner for marriage. Those people were already happy in the first place, before marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 03:12 PM |
| 7 | Why are so many women in their 30s and 40s single, childless, and dissatisfied with their dating prospects?I don't think you can generalise people with/without kids being happier. It's not a cause-and-effect relationship without further variables. I think people are happiest when they were able to fulfil their life goals/desires. That means that people who wanted to have children but weren't able to (for different reasons) likely are unhappier with the outcome than people who didn't really want kids. Edit: Ah, here's empirical evidence: https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-fertility-gap-and-womens-happines… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Feminists fearing and resenting men they never met is called sexism (II)I have full understanding for men who don't want to do 1:1 meetings with a woman behind closed doors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 09:02 AM |
| 1 | Feminists fearing and resenting men they never met is called sexism (II)An adult woman is not a child, so it's irrelevant concerning her consideration of locking the door. When I'm walking down the street at night, I'm also not afraid of all the people committing white-collar crime. Simply, because it's a type of crime that doesn't apply in that situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 08:59 AM |
| 1 | Artificial Wombs: A Technological (Partial) Solution To Gender Injustice and Global Fertility Collapse?Surrogacy is legal in the US. Why would artificial wombs be outlawed? | /r/MensRights | 16/12/24 02:33 PM |
| 3 | There needs to be a movement of men that advocate for freedom for men in society.Thank you, that's everything there needs to be said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 09:02 PM |
| 5 | There needs to be a movement of men that advocate for freedom for men in society.I hope you are aware that once ovulation has occurred, the morning after pill won't work anymore. So, to regularly rely on the morning after pill for contraceptive purposes is quite risky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 08:38 PM |
| 1 | There needs to be a movement of men that advocate for freedom for men in society.Correlation is not causation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 08:02 PM |
| 5 | What happens to women who go through a hoe phase in their 20s later in life?But do the hottest, richest, smartes guys really marry the virgins? I don't think so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 06:45 PM |
| 4 | What happens to women who go through a hoe phase in their 20s later in life?Yeah, an smart people don't marry these bullies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Guys in "female" occupations should lie about their job if they want to succeed in datingWhy not just visit a sex worker? Less expensive, less work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:19 PM |
| 1 | in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problemI think that's fake confidence if you drop everything at the drop of a hat. Really secure people can take a step back, reflect and then make a decision. But to stay in a relationship because you think you can't do better - that's not what I want. I want someone to want to be with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:07 PM |
| 16 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Depends on the specific ideas and how they're presented. Stating that you observe certain patterns and explaining them in your own words is fine, acting like a parrot isn't. I also reject the notion that there's a clueless and stupid majority that needs to be enlightened as if your opinions are a universal truth. If he doesn't believe in equality (we can debate what it means) or that I'm not meant to be taken seriously ("oldest teenagerin the room"), it's over. Your feelings aren't more valid th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 04:25 PM |
| 1 | in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problemBut would you not date a man specifically because he's a plumber? I think that's the question. It's not about a certain individual. Of course, the likelihood that you happen to be attracted to plumber Mike who fixes your bathroom isn't that big, just like we're not attracted to most people. But if you categorically exclude people from your dating pool for a service that you otherwise seek, I think that warrants some introspection. Of course, I'm not talking about practicalities like "I don't wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 03:39 PM |
| – | The only real form of love is unconditional love.We'll see how long men's unconditional love lasts when their partner decides she doesn't want to have sex anymore... 😂 Unconditional love is stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:57 AM |
| 4 | in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problemYeah, but women are metabolically healthier at higher weights/body fat levels. 🤷🏻♀️ I'm so tired of this discussion. There are health concerns and there are aesthetic preferences. They are correlated but definitely not the same. You can be fit, fat and metabolically healthy and you can have a low BMI and be unhealthy. It's okay if you don't like fat women. Just stop the concern trolling, it's a bad look. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:49 AM |
| 7 | in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problemYeah, and then these same men look down on you for being a sex worker. Good enough to validate them but not good enough for being validated, not to mention dating/marriage material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:41 AM |
| 2 | in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problemSo you recognise that if we tell people they're shit, they become insecure while lifting them up makes them very confident. Why do you want everyone to be insecure?! Maybe be nicer to other men instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:29 AM |
| 2 | Would you want to go back to life before the Sexual Revolution?I think the responsibility of choices has shifted more to the private realm. Sure, we're all products of our socialisation but nowadays you have much more options. The law or society hinder you much less than in former times. And you can make it a point to choose a partner who is more involved in child care or enables you to stay at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/24 08:50 PM |
| 20 | Would you want to go back to life before the Sexual Revolution?No. Because it's not like casual sex, contraception or abortions didn't happen back then. The risks were just much higher. As an unmarried pregnant women, you ended up as a pariah, your baby was taken from you (adoption), you suffered through an illegal abortion or had to enter a marriage of convenience. And even as a married woman, not every pregnancy was welcomed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/24 08:10 PM |
| 1 | People who look for umconditional love in relationships aren't confident in their ability to fulfill these conditionsThere's only one definition of "unconditional love" I could ever get behind and that's practically radical acceptance: I try to see your authentic self and I accept it. I don't try to change what I don't like about you so that you become a better fit for my needs. However, accepting a trait is not the same as endorsing it and it might even be a "deal-breaker" for some kinds of relationships (e.g. untidiness may be okay in friends but is an absolute no-go concerning romantic relationships). There… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/24 07:16 PM |
| 2 | Men are a big part of the problem.There's truth to that 😄👌🏻 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 04:02 PM |
| 4 | Men are a big part of the problem.Germany. Where prostitution is legal, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 03:51 PM |
| 9 | If you could get across any messaqge to the redpill community, what would that message be?Yup, the expectation that your partner will heal you also puts an enormous strain on the relationship. Don't do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 09:47 AM |
| 14 | Men are a big part of the problem.While I don't like transactional love (in the tit for that sense), I also don't think unconditional love is right for romantic relationships. I think the goal should be to enrich each others lives and be there for each other out of the genuine desire to do so. That also includes that if you develop into different directions, it might be better to seperate as asking someone to constantly go against their (new) nature isn't love either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 09:41 AM |
| 20 | Men are a big part of the problem.As a European, I'm always a bit bewildered by this "the man has to pay approach". To me, this doesn't sound chivalrous but transactional and I'm wondering how much it's symptomatic for this whole approach of dating. In my eyes, you should go out with a person (and I think an activity date is far better than dining) if you genuinely want to spent time with them and better get to know them as a person. If it leads to more, that's nice. But if it doesn't, it still was a pleasant day/evening. And si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 09:21 AM |
| 6 | Why is it that every time someone suggests men raise their standards or communicate their desires early to avoid relationship pitfalls, there’s always pushback? Instead of taking the advice, it seems like there’s an endless list of excuses not to do it.I don't think this advice is as mutually exclusive as you make it out to be: - Have higher standards for behaviour in a relationship - Don't just go for the hottest girls, ignoring all redflags | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 05:11 PM |
| 1 | What can men genuinely expect from women in a relationship?Yeah, and then the women leave these men after they've had the baby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 04:16 PM |
| 3 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADYou can think that, but there's a reason they choose to abstain from a highly stimulating activity that's forced all over social media and that carries minimal risks in your eyes. People usually do it because they view it as advantageous long term. Yeah, and I argue that the reason for abstaining isn't primarily self-restraint (unless very religious) but rather an interest in sex that isn't that strong. I've got no problem with guys who want to marry a virgin, especially if they remain one thems… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 11:41 PM |
| 3 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWouldn't it mean that women who claim guys want virgins because they're insecure about their performance are full of shit in this case? Yeah, I think that's the case. I think most women making this claim also don't really mean it but in a hyperbolic way. You mean having to potentially murder a baby or give birth isn't enough of a repercussion? I'd say it is, Sure, that's the risk. But marrying someone you don't know if you're compatible with is also a risk. and even aside from that most virgin w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 07:16 PM |
| 5 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADSo let's take an average man. Who is more likely to be satisfied with his performance, an average virgin woman or an average 5 N count woman? The 5 N woman who's able to make an informed choice. That's like saying people who have a strict diet don't like junk food. They do, they're just highly disciplined and choose not to indulge. But that's not how it usually works with sex in reality. People who want sex usually have it because the repercussions aren't really there any more. Or they have a "s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 06:43 PM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADOption 2 (5 partners): she has a realistic impression how sex works with different partners and still chose my son. 0 partners doesn't mean that you don't get compared. Even worse, you might get compared to an imaginary super man. A bit of experience allows you to better assess if the grass really is greener on the other side. A bit of experience also lets you figure out your sexual preferences. To know what you like in bed and what not is important for a sexual relationship. A virgin partner al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 06:16 PM |
| – | No one is obligated to stay celibate.Having sex always entails the risk of catching an STI. If you're still intimate with your married partner, you do risk their health, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 02:22 PM |
| 5 | Society unfairly demonize men who leave their wives due to sexual incompatibility and it's not good for anyone.There is no bait and switch, just new relationship energy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/24 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Society unfairly demonize men who leave their wives due to sexual incompatibility and it's not good for anyone.Agree on the first two paragraphs, disagree on the last. A mismatched libido is not something to "work on", it's more likely an inherent trait. Constantly trying to live against your nature leads to resentment. It's better to seperate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/24 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Women should not have to threaten to break up to get her boyfriend/husband to care about what she says.How do you accomplish that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 10:39 AM |
| -1 | Women should not have to threaten to break up to get her boyfriend/husband to care about what she says.The difference is that low effort women usually don't whine about "he left me for no reason!". They usually know very well that they didn't act like a partner. Of course, they still might try to shift the blame (well, I do more in regards of X; he's wrong for doing Y) but it's not this obliviousness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 09:43 AM |
| 1 | Women should not have to threaten to break up to get her boyfriend/husband to care about what she says.But is this realistic? Many relationships die due to "a death by a thousand cuts". You ask him to not leave the dirty dishes on the dishwasher. Next month he does it again, he's out? I'd say such an approach is abusive in itself, to punish someone draconically for a minor infringement. It's a differt thing when he leaves the dirty dishes on the dishwasher X% of the time and when he also doesn't mew the lawn although he promised, again didn't buy toilet paper etc. That's when you realise "He just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Women should not have to threaten to break up to get her boyfriend/husband to care about what she says.Women want men who meet their emotional needs. Dudes who get divorced because of "emotional incompatibility" didn't meet those needs ever/anymore. These are the men - like in this same thread! - who ignore their partners repeated requests for connection/respect ("nagging"). Women stay in abusive relationships because their emotional needs are met on the regular, while there is also abuse. That's why it's so difficult to leave these relationships. The abuser isn't an asshole 100% of the time, he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Women should not have to threaten to break up to get her boyfriend/husband to care about what she says.Thanks for showing us that many men don't do what their partner asks them to do because they respect them and take an interest in their happiness but because the men don't want to lose the relationship. "Lowest cost possible effort" is what gets you booted, and rightly so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 08:35 AM |
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