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The issue with asking about celebrities is their status makes them more attractive, so you can't really compare them to average men. We have dating app statistics that very clearly show who women prefer. Plus common sense. Of course women like conventionally attractive men. Sure, there are exceptions to every rule, but for the most part that holds true. Male sexlessness is at an all time high historically, especially in the 18-25 age group but female sexlessness isn't. Ladies are into the hot du…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:44 PM
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Very much so. Lots of women have crushes on them. Ever heard of Cumberbitches? They're rich, charming, celebrities. If they worked at Walmart and had average personalities they wouldn't be found any more attractive than the next guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:21 AM
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Both charming, attractive, desirable, wealthy, celebrities. That's definitely a type of guy women like, and we see that talked about on here a lot. Status, charm, confidence, and celebrity are attractive. They are very far from average Joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:04 AM
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Those are all attractive celebrities. That's a type of guy women are attracted to (attractive, charming celebrities). They aren't attracted to guy with fish and baseball hat on tinder or guy with dog and plaid shirt (average dudes). Just how men are attracted to Scar Jo not girl with dog filter and 3 cats on tinder. But people settle and compromise or stay single and crush on celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:56 AM
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Idk that sounds like a her problem. I'm also not gonna lie, I don't believe this friend exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 04:55 PM
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In life? There are people with debilitating disabilities living in endless pain, people born into hunger and poverty they could never escape, victims horrific abuse, etc. It's definitely hard being neurodivergent and neurodivergent folks have many challenges, but being neurotypical is not the most important factor in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 05:03 AM
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I think people are so used to seeing very thin and photoshopped images of women these paintings make the women seem a lot bigger than they are to some people. In real life they are what people would call "average" as far as body size goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:00 PM
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I don't really see them as fat at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:35 PM
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Tell me the name of his painting where you'd call the women fat so I can see which women you think are fat. The word obese isn't even used a single time in that article to describe the women in his artwork so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:05 PM
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Which painting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:51 PM
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As I said to a commenter below I wouldn't consider women in renaissance art fat, including the work of Rubens. Perhaps if you were better familiar with his work you'd see what I see: very feminine women with hourglass figures that are perhaps slightly overweight. I would never call those women fat. Would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:33 PM
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During the renaissance we see a lot of art of fuller figured, very feminine women pretty much exclusively with hourglass shapes. They were perhaps slightly overweight or the high end of a healthy weight, but I don't know if I personally would call them fat. Would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:26 PM
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Back in history, fat women were considered attractive. When?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:17 PM
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Not really. Most girls I knew, myself included, were over partying by senior year of college. We all partied the most before 21. No one was "less attractive" at 22. Partying gets old, and it isn't very satisfying after a while. The first few times you get inundated with attention is cool, but a few years later it's just not exciting any more. It gets boring. And since it's a very "empty" activity it's easy to move on from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:15 PM
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Let’s see you not ask for guidance and forgiveness in your most powerless moments Doing that doesn't make it real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:11 PM
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You subscribing to whatever roles you want to is great. Have at it. You saying what roles people should fill based on their sex is sexism. There's a difference between: "I want my man/woman to be X" and "A man/woman should be X"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:46 AM
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This is just sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:35 AM
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I wish more people had this energy for both ends of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:54 AM
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Climate change is actually going to be pretty good for farming for the western world. The world isn't gonna collapse in 7 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:45 AM
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Can't really argue for that when women see themselves as a resource. Women as a whole don't see themselves as anything. We're individuals. That's what OP is saying as well. Some other woman's choice of weather or not she wants to sell sex isn't having any impact on weather I want to sell sex. Some other man's choice to see sex isn't having any impact on weather I want to sell sex. Females of different species exchange sex for resources. Its a legit behavioral trait among animals, if you didn't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:00 PM
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Ok, and I explained why some women's actions don't justify seeing women as a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:18 PM
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Friend, no one is saying that they are. OP and I are saying using/seeing women as a resource is wrong. You're saying women are doing it (it meaning allowing for a system where they are seen as a resource) to themselves because some women use sex as leverage. I'm saying that the free action of some women doesn't justify women being used/seen as a resource against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 09:03 PM
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That's not what I'm saying. I was saying that just because some men do a thing by choice (like join the military) doesn't mean that it's therefore right or justified to force men to do said thing (to force men to be in the millitary.) Just because some women use sex as leverage doesn't mean that it is therefore justified using woman-kind as a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:07 PM
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A portion of women willfully doing it is not the same, all/most women being forced to do that same thing. Choosing to use sex as leverage is not the same thing as being used as a resource regardless of her will. Women are individual people with free will. This is like saying if men don't want to be drafted then they should stop willingly singing up to be in the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:45 PM
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Nope, that's why past the attraction part, men will pick the most loving and loyal option and women will pick the highest status option. That's why the common male fantasies center around the women saving herself for a man (loyalty) and sticks with him through hard times. While the female fantasy centers around the status of the man (6'4 billionaire surgeon vampires). In all those fantasies the vampire surgeons is incredibly loyal, sticks by the protagonist through everything. Loyalty is a massi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:04 AM
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Attractive is a box men want ticked. OP is acting like it isn't? Attractiveness is also a form status. That being said... Women will disregard loving for status but not attractiveness. Attractive men will get women if they're broke, unemployed, a criminal, etc. Status is not as important as attractiveness. Men will disregard loving for attractiveness. Men will let hot women walk all over them, even if she treats him like crap. Being loving is not as important as attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:30 AM
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Women don't care about how loving a man is? Not as much as what boxes he can tick, even after getting past the attraction part Women care about ticking boxes as much or as little as men. That's my point. Yes I'm glad you brought this up because it is literally a meme that in romance novels geared towards women the guy is always some 6'4 billionaire vampire surgeon... That loves the protagonist. It's the fantasy of having all the boxes ticked and someone that loves you. Same thing men want. No ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:25 AM
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​ You just proved OPs point lmao No, you made a point I didn't make, which I disagree with. The boxes being ticked don't mean anything if he isn't "loving." For men and women. Men don't care if an unattractive woman is loving to them. Everyone wants to be loved by someone that ticks boxes, and one of those boxes is he/she loves me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:20 AM
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Women don't care about how loving a man is? If he's attractive they 100% do. Just how men don't care about how loving a woman is if she's unattractive. Who wants to be with someone that isn't into them? Ever read a romance novel or watched a romanic movie geared towards women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:01 AM
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You're missing my point. Women also want "a man they're attracted to and he is really into her." Her attraction is gonna be based on criteria, just like a man's attraction. This post doesn't prove your premise: women have "boxes" and men just want someone into them, because everyone has boxes, they're just different. You used men's criteria for both men and women, when men and women have very different criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:47 AM
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Except women are much willing to be single than settle compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:41 AM
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Men wanna tick boxes too. Looks box, age box, feminine box, enthusiastic in bed box, weight box, etc. Men don't want a woman they think is ugly "as into him as possible." Men also get turned off by clingy women unless he has literally no options or she's a supermodel so "as into you as possible" also doesn't apply. All you've done is taken men's "boxes" and decided they're not boxes. They're different criteria....but they're still criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:38 AM
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I read a good amount of romance. Most male leads are hyper masculine, good looking, dark, stoic, brooding, and rich/powerful in some way. Is this a representation of what women like in men? Yes. Absolutely. Red Pill isn't wrong about that. Women on average (there are exceptions of course) like masculine, hot, powerful, emotionally mature men. Just like in books geared towards men the female love interests are young, hot, and inexplicably obsessed with the male protagonist despite him being painf…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:03 AM
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Idk, I wouldn't tongue anyone during a first kiss even if I'm 100% into him. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm generally not that into tongue kissing... especially in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:25 PM
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Lesbians in relationships have less sex than any other type of couple. Check out stats for gay men vs hetero couples or lesbian couples. Men do have higher sex drives than women due to testosterone. There's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:26 PM
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Go spend the time you would sending your exes new girlfriends texts volunteering at a soup kitchen if your logic for doing that is the betterment of humanity. Jonah wasn't abusive. The dog is dangerous. Jonah is a douche at worst. Not every asshole behavior is abusive. We should really not start assuming/implying/suggesting abuse where there isn't any.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:18 AM
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If he didn't mistreat her and wasn't violent towards her, she needs to focus on herself and stay out of his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:36 AM
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Oh ok, so you're not including yourself when you say "men?" My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:27 PM
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No it's not. You're a man, claiming men are smarter than women. Surely that means you're more educated than the average woman? You talked about STEM being a real degree and not the arts/humanities, so I'd love to hear about your STEM degree and how you outperform the women in STEM. What's your degree in?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:13 PM
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​ What's the demonstrable difference between someone who can't do something and someone who won't do something What level of education do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 10:57 PM
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By definition he's not Mr. Perfect. This is no woman's idea of "perfect," save for women that wanna use him for something or a small handful of outliers. If it were an open relationship, then sure. But a one-sided one? Nah. But lots of women would be into this (though they would not see him as perfect), probably as many women as men willing to be with toxic women because they're hot and it's the best they could do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 10:39 PM
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She’s also kind of weird like him so i can see why they get along So she's not dating him for safety or security but because she genuinely likes him and is attracted to him? That contradicts the entire premise of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:11 PM
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Also my ex and I broke up recently, thanks very much! Ok, so you have been dating, which means you are not "barely getting male attention." Anyways, i do work on self-improvement, as I do therapy every week and work on my own version of self-care. That's great! I know I probably won’t retain a younger attractive man based on prior experiences so I’m trying to change my perspective. Also great. But your roommate's boyfriend "tending to her like a child" and "having the patience of a saint" are ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:34 AM
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This reads like a larp. One look at your post history and you claim to have a boyfriend so.... That being said, there's no correlation between how a man looks and how he treats you. Bad looking men are just as likely to treat their partner badly as good looking men and average men. Picking a man based on security....is shitty for both parties involved. If anything "you" should be trying to improve yourself. Plenty of women find happy relationships at 40 if they take care of themselves and are re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:11 AM
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90% of the time Ive initiated on OLD I got ignored or called a bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:05 PM
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Someone Im attracted to physically and someone who has a personality that I like. It has to be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:34 PM
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I always pay for myself and I like to suggest a free first date. I just don't wanna deal with the issue. It's a stupid, sexist cultural norm that creates unnecessary awkwardness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:38 AM
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You'd be surprised how being rich and famous overrides everything else. Plus, he's in Leo DiCaprio's friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:36 AM
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He agreed to give it up, then went back on his word. That's the issue. He broke his promise. She divorced him. Seems like things were handled appropriately. Jonah isn't in the wrong for asking surfer girl to change. It was stupid of him to expect her to, but I wouldn't say it's "wrong" to ask. He's in the wrong for the way he did it, which was pretty rude if you read all the texts. The "controlling" part of the Jonah thing is the way he was talking to her, and making a long list of demands, incl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:43 PM
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Giselle’s pursed a football player and knew what that entailed. It entailed retiring well before 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:31 PM
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This doesn't disprove what I said though. Sounds like these girls already held the belief that they only thirst trap while single and will stop in a relationship. They aren't changing who they are for anyone. "Who they are" is already the kind of person that thirst traps only while single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:53 PM
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But humans are naturally monogamous. Our species has a very strong desire to pair-bond. Just because some people cheat and some people choose to be non-monogamous doesn’t change that fact. Pair bond yes. Life-long monogamy, no. We're naturally polygamous/polyandrous. So, pair-bonding with different partners, and changing those partners every 8 years or so. It's a great way to diversify the gene pool and to ensure that "your" genes make it with the healthiest mate possible. Also, who is forcing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:49 PM
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No, he isn't. 63% of young men are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:39 PM
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Except the average man struggles with dating so this makes no sense. I guess it depends how you define "struggle with dating"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:23 PM
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​ i jsut said there is a much higher likelihood that a woman that has engaged with tonnes of promiscuous sex before a relationship is not likely to just change that behaviour long term all of a sudden, its ingrained at a certian point Promiscuity does not equal cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:23 AM
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so isnt it safe to assume most omen wont stop their years of promiscuity for their man Promiscuity isn't cheating. If they aren't a cheater there's nothing to stop. you dont think years of drug use before a relationship would not indicate the future of drug use in a relationship It does. But most drug users aren't using because they are single, unlike a lot of promiscuous people who aren't cheaters. promiscuity is not just fun casual sex for most people, its a neutronic coping mechanism to fill …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:45 AM
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No one will stop anything just for their partner (most of the time). But that has nothing to do with cheating vs promiscuity. But you keep calling promiscuous people cheaters. Some are, some aren't. Just how some people that aren't promiscuous are serial cheaters. Plenty of men that played the field "settle down" and don't cheat. Same with women. A much better argument that you can make: promiscuous people are more likely to cheat. Then sure, that might true. But it's got nothing to do with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:48 AM
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why cant woman post million of half naked photos before a marriage and then stop uploading them when married? They can? cant they just be a person that posts half naked photo while single and not when in a relaionship? Maybe some people are? This is where you ask them how they feel about those kinds of photos in a relationship vs when they are single? You know....before you start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:36 AM
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You're comparing two different things. Someone can have a lot of partners when single, but not be a cheater when in a relationship. Same with men. Plenty of men sleep around and don't cheat on their partner when they do get one. Promiscuity when single doesn't mean promiscuity in a relationship unless the promiscuous person is a cheater. Someone can be promiscuous and not a cheater. Someone not being promiscuous in a relationship isn't changing who they are....if they are already the person that…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:07 AM
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The reality is most people are flawed. Most people have major and minor flaws, and lots of them. If we didn't accept people's flaws, big or small, we'd all be single. The guy you said women "passed on" for minor flaws....also have major flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:42 AM
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There is a certain type of woman that would go on these podcasts...and they don't represent your average woman. Those podcasters are running a business. They don't care about anything but the bottom line. Putting women on there that disprove their pov wouldn't be good for their business so you're not gonna see that. There's a reason for why no matter what woman goes on there they want the "same thing." I could start a podcast with the premise that all men are abusive and find you abusers from al…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:24 PM
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Maybe humans aren't meant to be in lifelong relationships. If they were, we wouldn't have to force it. It would be great if we accepted that humans aren't monogamous naturally instead of trying to find ways to force people to be in unhappy relationships for 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 08:25 PM
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It's like what the PPD guys say: don't ask women for dating advice as a man.....don't ask men for dating advice as a woman. Actually being innocent and submissive and feminine won't get you those guys. They want hyper-sexual, fun, experienced in bed, and assertive. Men love women that make moves, that "take care" of them, that are aggressive and take control in bed, and that are "cool" or fun to be around. Sweet Sarah the shy 20 year old whose only dated her HS boyfriend is not gonna attract mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 06:46 PM
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My bitches know their role. Are they in the room now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:29 AM
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Sex education should be more-or-less standardized, not up to each teacher to decide how they want to teach it. That being said, not teaching it at all does much more harm than good. Obviously extreme teachers are bad regardless of what side of the spectrum they are on. Abstinence, sex takes away your purity and god hates sex it is just as toxic as you can pick your gender based on how you feel that morning and identify as a zebra. But it's so important for schools to teach kids how babies are ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:12 PM
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Self-learning isn't an excuse at that age for treating someone like that. It's an excuse at 19 not 35. If by 35 you don't know your boundaries and decide to change them mid-relationship then threaten to break up with your partner if they don't succumb to your multiple demands, that's shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:04 PM
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No, but I'm really only interested in eating his trash so....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:56 AM
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I thought I knew myself, a lot of the issue(s) came down to things that I didn't previously realize would have such an effect on me. That's totally fine and a very normal experience for a young person to have. But this guy has been around the block. He's had like 5-6 public, long-term relationships before that girl (and that's not counting the not-public ones.) Some of them were with other celebrities, so there's really no excuse. If he was like 16-19 years old I'd give him a pass. We don't know…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:41 AM
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Then we look for ways to address trafficking as the separate industry that it is. Why are we punishing sex workers and clients because trafficking exists? This isn't done in any other industry with a black market, and half our crap is made from borderline human slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:18 AM
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The real question is why not make it legal so sex workers can just work in peace, pay taxes, and not be afraid of calling the police, and their customers can do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:11 AM
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He may not have known how much it would bother him if he'd never been in that situation before. He's a 39 year old celebrity in Leo Dicaprio's crew. He's dated around enough so I don't think that's the case. I see how that could be framed as threatening the relationship but imo that's a malicious interpretation. If someone is threatening breaking up as a way to manipulate someone to change something about themselves it fits under that umbrella. Lots of gray area there we could get into, but I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:12 AM
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It's more like if he was playing recreational football with some guys who otherwise made questionable life choices and were posting pictures online with all of them hanging out with thots after the game. Having boundaries is not controlling. This is just controlling language to prevent men from having reasonable boundaries. If you don't agree to the boundaries, then leave. I agree that having boundaries is not controlling. It's very healthy. But, like I said, what's controlling and manipulative …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:38 AM
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Jonah wasn't controlling in the slightest Let's say a woman started dating a guy that liked football and months into the relationship, after he's emotionally invested, she told him if you don't stop watching football and hanging with your friend group, I'm gonna break up with you. That's her trying to be controlling, just like Jonah was. Isolating people from friends, controlling what they post, where they go, what they wear, etc., is textbook controlling. Just don't date people you're incompati…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:07 AM
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It's definitely him trying to be a bit controlling because this is exactly who she was when he pursued her, but once he got with her he threatened the relationship if she didn't change who she was for him. He can have whatever preferences he wants, but it's definitely not cool to only enforce those preferences after the fact. That being said, it's certainly not abusive by any means, and her making it public, I think, was unnecessary, weird, and immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:50 PM
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Yes ,they are male dominated but there are still plenty of women there too. And actually, this proves my point even more, cause women on dating apps, tinder for example, which has tens of millions of users, they find only 5% of guys attractive, 5% out of a male dominated space, so that says a lot about women's ridiculous standards. They'd find a much higher percentage of guys attractive if they have fewer options and less attention. I went to a mostly female university. Most women had to date ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:02 PM
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Tinder and other dating apps are a great representation of real life dating. They aren't b/c they're very male dominated. These platforms would be very different if they were 50/50 or female dominated. Most women in general are not interested in having emotional needs, Lol, everyone is. Men and women. they just want got guys or very expensive things, that is it. The whole idea of women just wanting actually good communicative men is the biggest lie ever. If what you said it's true, then women wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:48 PM
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I mean I personally have never had sex with anyone on a first date no matter how attracted I was to them. People do have self control, folks. I aint about jumping into bed with a stranger I've known for 1.5 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:39 PM
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Well we all know that statistically less sex leads to more unwanted pregnancy and STDs....as kids will "learn" from the internet as most parents do a shit job of teaching sex ED, but I guess there's always people like you that worry that a teacher saying some people are gay might turn all the kids gay so it's a real tossup huh....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:00 AM
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I dont think any teacher has any business teaching about sexual orientation. So no sex ED at all beyond anatomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:05 AM
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The truth is they didn't have the same earning potential as men, not that they couldn't or didn't work. Throw being the primary caretaker of the kids on top of that, and alimony made sense. Not anymore, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:01 AM
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I know. I still don't believe that is accurate. Let's see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:55 AM
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Nah, that's not accurate then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:46 AM
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Maybe outside the US or a long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:31 AM
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Sounds like you live in a rich area. None of this applies to most people. Regular people can't just open an unprofitable fitness studio for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:06 AM
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but most couples are woman/democrat and man/republican No, they aren't. Most couples have the same beliefs. In the US at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:57 AM
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Women are allocated funds to take care of themselves and their children (i.e. WIC) and men get to go to jail if we fail to take care of our children Men are welcome to step up, get 50/50 custody and get WIC. This is a choice. Men get custody when they fight for it, many just don't want it. https://www.dadsdivorcelaw.com/blog/fathers-and-mothers-child-custody-myths#:~:text=Myth%3A%20Fathers%20Almost%20Never%20Get%20Custody&text=However%2C%20studies%20indicate%20that%20dads,pushed%20aggressively%2…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:12 PM
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I'm not arguing against any of what you've said. Those are all definitely reasons for why people struggle. I'm arguing that this is bad and that people need to take care of themselves for themselves and their children, instead of excusing and justifying harming themselves. You wouldn't tell a smoker it's ok to cope with stress by smoking, or an alcoholic it's ok to cope by drinking. We know obesity kills people, and we know food is a bad way to cope with stress. That being said, new babies are n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:08 AM
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Order healthy food if you order out. Buy healthy pre-made food if you buy pre-made. Smaller portion sizes. It takes 1 minute to microwave an oatmeal packet instead of getting chips. Microwave some canned veggies. Eat canned beans. Meal prep. Buy frozen and throw it in the oven/microwave. But salad mix. Take 1 minute to make a sandwich with lettuce, tomato, and turkey. It takes 2 minutes to cook an egg in the microwave. It takes 3 minutes to make a smoothie with cheap ingredients. Kids grow up. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:33 PM
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Where did I say fat people are lazy? Why is saying taking care of your body, self-love and self-care suddenly become a bad thing to say? Why are we pretending there are no parents that work and take care of their health? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:20 PM
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Yet no one is overeating broccoli and chicken breasts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:42 PM
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I think part of being a good parent is taking care of yourself. Modeling good habits is soooo important for kids, and that includes self-care and self-love. You can't pour out of an empty cup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:41 PM
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Being a sugar baby is just sex work, and people always wrongly think it's easy money or an easy life. Not only does it have an expiration date...most sugar babies don't actually make much money....even very attractive ones. The market is oversaturated, and the demand from very rich men is too low. Most sugar daddies aren't rich and are actually looking for a cheap prostitute. There is a very small percentage of sugar babies that find millionaires to fund their lavish lifestyle. Very small.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 07:23 AM
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Except in real life they do, and that has a massive effect on marriages. Their husbands certainly do look at them "that way." Men that put a lot of value on their partner being attractive don't suddenly stop when they get married...if all they put value on is looks and submissiveness those men aren't going to be happy with their wives and cheat/leave/be miserable. It's true for how women see their husbands too. For most people, there will come a day when your partner is no longer sexy. Being fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 07:18 AM
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True. Every blue collar guy I know in the US struggles way less than the men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:58 AM
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You brought up hypocrisy. If it doesn't matter don't ask about it? Do you know what hypocrisy means? I don't think you have any idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:11 AM
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What does that have to do with hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:05 AM
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No one is calling the 5'1'' guy a hypocrite? Your question is about hypocrisy. hypocrisy is about moral standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:31 AM
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Eastern European that lives in the US here. It's totally different largely because Eastern Europe is more traditional (men are more masculine/women are more feminine) and in countries like Russia with way more women than men, women take what they can get. Eastern Europe has it's flaws, but it beats men over the head with masculinity from a young age and women are attracted to that. Eastern European men are much more aggressive, assertive and stoic. On the flip side, they tend towards alcoholism,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:04 AM
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People don't have issue with something different, they have issues with hypocrisy. The "how they ended up in the situation" is the most important part, not the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:59 PM
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Can't answer a question based on a false premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:12 PM
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Join a club. Join a sports team. Go to meetups. Get a hobby done in groups and join said groups (hiking, motorcycles, running, adult baseball, chess club, DnD, improv, whatever.) If you struggle with social skills work on them. Social skills are skills and can be improved. Give it a year of working on it and you'll be doing well. Or go for people that also lack social skills and want friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:46 PM
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While male sugar babies aren't nearly as common, they totally exist. Will need source or evidence for that claim. People already shared some good links, and I'll add Brittney Spears' current husband and Ivana Trumps widower into the mix. There's this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty4eNpFAfPg&ab_channel=NowThisNews And sugar mammas exist on websites like seeking arrangements, there's just fewer of them. Also sometimes sugar daddies want men not women. That's only in the USA or where sex wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:14 PM
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While male sugar babies aren't nearly as common, they totally exist. And the majority of women can never be sugar babies, and even the majority of women that try don't end up making much money at all. It's a big myth that it's easy money for any woman that tries. Anyways, sugaring is sex work. Getting married rich is not the same thing. It can be very transactional, but it can also be for love, and it's really gonna vary marriage to marriage. Also that girl is very pretty. She could totally do p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:16 PM
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My default date is a walk in the park. For whatever reason it's easier to open up when walking and talking. Maybe it's cause you're not stuck looking right at each other. Plus no issue with "who pays." But getting sweaty isn't my jam. I don't wanna look ugly in front of them until like date 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:16 PM
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​ I did not consent on having my money stolen If when you got a job you knew you'd be taxed you consented. You money is not stolen if you consent and then benefit from stuff paid for by taxes....like roads and police. And if you ever become disabled good thing my taxes will help support your existence. from me but you imply that I consent by living in society You consent by getting a job you know will require you to pay taxes. YET when it's implied to women you just go "nonono not like this". We…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:11 PM
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First, women pay taxes and build society. Second, to consent to being abused the same way you consent to taxes would be to get into a relationship where you know you will be abused and agree to being abused, which is not what happens and at that point not abuse, but some kind of kink/BDSM thing. So no, it's not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:23 PM
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He has his shit together as far as work, but coming home to an empty house after being used to two kids and a wife is taking an emotional toll, and he's never been good at dealing with negative emotions. It's ok though, because he eventually meets Laura, who isn't exactly a looker, but she drinks beer and used to go hunting with her dad, and Simon appreciates the home cooked meals, even if it is tater-tot casserole twice a week. She helps him get 50/50 custody of the kids. They listen to Joe Rog…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:15 AM
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Nah, she was just in a "done with men" phase, but ended up dating men again after.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:07 AM
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Don't worry, Andrea and her boss won't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:03 AM
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Andrea settled for the cute, simple, "good" guy because she wanted kids and couldn't get the men that she wanted earlier in life. Simon was too dumb to figure out she was settling and fell in love. It's been 5 years, they have two kids, and Simon isn't gonna fight for custody in the divorce. Andrea is currently dating her boss, who is a woman. Simon is single. Andrea has started to cope with the divorce by overeating. Simon is developing a drinking problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:58 AM
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You do consent to paying taxes. You consented when you chose to get a job. You consent when you chose to continue living in a society and driving on the roads taxes pay for, going to the school taxes pay for, etc. No one is stopping you from quitting your job and living in the wilderness or joining a commune or living in a cave or on the street, whatever you want to do. But, you consent to taxes when you choose to live in a society and work a job that you know ahead of time will result in you pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 01:46 AM
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You: men don't only think about one thing. Stop with these generalizations! Also you: women only talk about one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 01:35 AM
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If those men continue to pursue said woman, she will likely relent and find it romantic. If in-league guy does it it will likely be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:48 PM
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There aren't enough wealthy men for all the women, friend. And I'm certainly not up to a wealthy man's standards so it's not an option. But I have no issue with working for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:38 PM
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I second this. Those men are not interested in average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:41 PM
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how does a regular women because high status without hypergamy. Get rich
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:39 PM
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A feminist woman can do the traditional thing. These two things aren't contradictory. Feminism is about giving women choice not forcing women into a box. If a feminist wants to be a sahm, great! If a feminist wants to be a career woman, great!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:17 PM
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Look, I don't wanna be harsh, but you can choose to present yourself in a less sexual way if it's truly causing you distress. One can look attractive without looking sexual. If conversations on dates are always turning sexual, it's the men you're picking to go on dates with. If you truly think you'd be better off as a 7/10, you can get there with casual clothes and less makeup, which it sounds like you're gonna be doing. But I promise you you it's not about being a 9/10, it's about the fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:46 AM
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We aren't really all equal adults past 18, and 18 year olds should not be able to do a lot of what they can do now, like take on 100k of debt, do porn, or join the military, but that's kinda off topic. 18 is a high school senior. 25 yr old+ adults will have little to nothing in common with teenagers. Different maturity levels, different life stages, etc. There are exceptions to every rule....but generally it's the same reason most 18 year olds aren't bffs with 12 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:21 AM
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You noticed that most women worked for most of history not only in the first industrial revolution... but never really worked close to their male counterparts ever. Or even close to it. Most of womens work were either seasonal, low hours (like waking up people inthe mornings) or sinple housework. The only women who never really worked were rich women. And the only real women who ever worked like men were widows Proof? Because this isn't true at all. Women, like men worked 7 days a week on farms,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:43 PM
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Not that close
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:05 AM
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Right. No issue with everyone in a society being a close relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:14 AM
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No we don't. If you don't have men you don't have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:32 AM
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But because they do not want to work. This is such bull. First, women worked. Women have worked for most of history. Raising kids is work. So was running a household back in the day. But besides that your average peasant woman worked on farms and in factories for most of history. Plus they were barred from politics/higher education and any desirable job so we have no idea how many more women would have worked. Now, most people in general don't wanna work. We do it out of necessity. How many men …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:23 AM
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But when we are talking who did it on a larger scale, you know the fuckin answer Men physically built buildings/roads and things. Women did other things while men were building, like keeping the future generations alive. But it's a pretty even split when it comes to building "society" due to the fact that for society to exist children need to be born and raised and households need to exist to support those children's upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:15 AM
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I'm pretty sure you need both men and women for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:12 AM
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How is that a strawman? You're claiming before the red pill you/men didn't know women liked good looking guys...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:00 PM
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Right. So you do things just in case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:25 PM
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How would a woman know who is good and who is bad when she's out at night?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:02 PM
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"catcalling." The thing is, catcalling is not just compliments. It's shouting at them on the street, it's often done to purposefully make women uncomfortable, and it can and does often get scary. Look, when I've gone into the city alone I've been followed by men multiple times while being "catcalled" which has often been aggressive slurs. I'm 5'2.'' It's scary. I know being the size that I am there's nothing I could physically do to stop any man. I've been followed to my car three times at night…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:19 PM
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loads of men were told "no she doesnt likes the fact he is handsome, he likes him because he is nice, No, they weren't. Maybe someone's mom or dad said that. But society makes it very clear women like good looking men. It's not "men's" fault for not figuring out women like handsome men. It's your fault. Most men know. It's common knowledge. Haven't you ever noticed that leading men in romantic movies are always hot? Haven't you heard girls talking about cute guys? Haven't you seen which guys at …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:28 PM
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No, it's not the same thing. Men or women being abused are victims because the person abusing them is....abusing them. Because of course, domestic violence is one sided and comes out of nowhere. We know that this is not true. Did you not see what I wrote about personal responsibility? Women aren't actively doing anything to cause certain men to have poor social skills. Yes. It is called false accusation of sexual harassment, lynch mob a la "Are we dating the same guy" facebook groups where there…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:12 AM
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Whenever women ask me why I don’t have a girlfriend and I answer “probably due to me being short with a subpar face”, they get angry and dismissive. I mean that is a socially awkward thing to say to a bad question. That's on both of ya'll. So that’s where them being at fault comes from. They are never like “silly me, it is obvious from grade 6 guys like you will struggle” Why would they say that? That's just rude and super awkward. This isn't a socially acceptable way of communicating. That bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:02 AM
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It's like women complaining about domestic violence then. Since she chose her man, any abuse she receives is her issue and if she blames the man for kicking her ass, it's toxic and self victimization because it's not the man's problem, but the woman's since she chose him and chose to stay. No, it's not the same thing. Men or women being abused are victims because the person abusing them is....abusing them. That being said, there's nothing wrong with victims taking personal responsibility. They a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:41 AM
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Physical looks arent implied in any way, what in those statements implies it? They aren't implied in the statements, it's implied that we're all aware women like attractive people. A lot of people deduce that by a very young age. For whatever reason, men that are into the red pill never figured it out. Which is fine. But most men know women like good looking men. It's in the media, it happens in real life, etc. Nothing, women havent been conditioned to do jack shit, that is just a silly excuse, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:02 AM
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usually when men ask questions about it, disingenous people like you tell him "well it is because the guy is really hard working" or "it is because the guy is a good boyfriend", I will/do happily admit that appearance is the most important factor when it comes to dating success for men. he few time ive seen someone pointing out that it is about looks he "because it mostly have been men" he inmediatly gets shut down for implying women are shallow, ridiculous dishonest people is everything you all…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:27 AM
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I have lots of empathy for men and a lot of it came from PPD, and I do wish men had more empathy for very valid dating struggles. I don't have empathy for the red pill if that makes sense, but I have empathy for the struggles men have and for the extreme loneliness a lot of them have to deal with. I also hate the normalization of hating on men/demonizing men as a whole and hope that as more men speak out. Hopefully we'll look back at the "I hate men" things the way we look back at offensive twee…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:21 AM
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I understand it's surprising how blunt it needs to be for guys like me to understand it, but for us to truly benefit it needs to be that way. Not at all. There are plenty of men and women that struggle "reading between the lines" when it comes to a myriad of dating and social skills. But those people usually possess the very critical skills that you've demonstrated and are able to identify the issues within the way red-pill frames it's advice. They want to be mad at women, and they won't listen …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:19 PM
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That's fine, but the issue is this myth spread around the manosphere that this misunderstanding is common and women's fault, instead of the outcome of some men struggling with certain social/observational skills. As a woman I've never gotten dating advice from a man—and I when I have dating issues I realize it would be wrong for me to go around saying "well men didn't tell me xyz!" and then jump on some man-hating website that tells me men are all aggressive assholes that only want hot 18-year-o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:47 PM
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Most men don't need anyone to tell them women like attractive men. They can look around and see it happening starting in grade 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:23 PM
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No sane woman will wait decades for Chris Hemsworth to ask her out. So you're saying if I wait decades there's a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:22 PM
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But again, to each their own. And this is exactly my point, and exactly what Eastern European society does not promote.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:43 PM
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normal. That's why women had to be forced into being housewives and barred from higher education and careers forcefully. Cause it's so normal and natural for them. Just how it's so normal and natural for men to be aggressive maniacs that they have to be drafted to fight in wars. Just because something was normal doesn't mean it was good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:52 PM
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They aren't. What is viewed with hate is those dynamics being forced on people or expected of people....and massive amount of social pressure to meet traditional gender norms counts. I'm from Eastern Europe too. You say "no one is forced," but the pressure is massive. The traditional roles aren't bad...but pressuring people into them is. Just because men are stronger doesn't mean it makes more sense of men to carry grocery bags. Lifting heavy things is good for women. Weight bearing exercise is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:48 PM
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I wonder, though, what is the motivation for looking conventionally attractive? For yourself. It feels good to like how you look. And people treat you better when you look nice. And just because someone likes trendy things doesn't mean they're doing it for any reason other than that's what they like to look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:40 PM
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You're so close to realizing that the problem is our (and your) idea of what feminine and masculine actually are vs what society wants them to be. It's not that men are being "feminine," it's that we've labelled a common set of behaviors feminine despite the fact that men do them just as much as women. If being emotional, sensitive and occasionally irrational isn't masculine...then being masculine has very little to do with being a human male.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:11 AM
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I never said anything to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:15 AM
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The shame you'd feel comes from you loving your child, not from other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:14 AM
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Men who don't care about their children absolutely deserve to be shamed, Do they deserve it? Sure. Will shaming change them? Nope. Will someone that was somehow shamed into parenting be a good parent? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:55 PM
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Everyone else that shame and criticism worked on successfully avoided being deadbeats or fucking men that are deadbeats. Shame and criticism isn't why they aren't deadbeats. Most people that aren't deadbeats aren't because they love and care about their children, not because they were shamed into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:46 PM
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They lack the capacity to have cognitive or emotional empathy for their children and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:09 PM
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I didn't say either party should garner more or less sympathy. We should have sympathy for everyone whose lives were unfortunate enough to lead them to being single parents or to make it so they lack the capacity to care about their offspring. No one chooses to be a crappy person. It's a product of environment or untreated mental issues. Society fails people, and then we blame them for it once they turn 18 and struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:41 PM
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Shaming and criticizing groups of people has never worked and will never work. Instead, people should focus on discussing what we can do to prevent these situations, like making sure young men and women have good mental health support and strong communities, voting to improve sex-ed, making sure abortion is accessible, including family-planning in school curriculums in more vulnerable areas, etc. I've also worked in family courts and the root issue is often some combination of poverty and childh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:37 PM
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I don't agree at all. I think the roles we force people in come less from nature/what is natural, and more from trying to fit into what the opposite sex finds desirable—which is a highly exaggerated and restricted version of what is natural. I think biologically women are more "feminine" than men on average, meaning less aggressive, more nurturing, and more interested in people over objects, more emotional due to monthly hormonal swings, but the difference between the two sexes is much smaller t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:46 PM
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Femininity is simply the opposite of masculinity, they complement each other and complete each other. You're assuming being born with a vagina makes you naturally "feminine." Or being born with a penis makes you naturally "masculine." It doesn't. Pressuring men and women to play pretend sucks for everyone. There are less feminine women in the west because there's more freedom to be your authentic self, and a lot of women just aren't that feminine. Some are. Both are ways of being are fine. I'm f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:38 PM
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Your quote is by an 87 year old lady. Times have changed. More women graduate than men now, and we go to class in sweatpants. "Most women" don't see "men as machines that provide." Most women work. On top of that, nothing about being a stay at home parent means you don't appreciate or love your partner. And at the end of the day all humans value each other for what they can provide not for "who they are." We all do it. Weather it's money, security, emotional support, fun, sex, humor, no one valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:28 PM
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They usually don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:49 AM
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I think that's a good time to remember two things can be true at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:18 AM
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I think they would
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:39 PM
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Well they would so....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:40 PM
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They would if it was socially acceptable. Instead they take a picture with hat and sunglasses in truck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:08 PM
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No, fathers don't ask for custody. That's the real issue. https://www.dadsdivorcelaw.com/blog/fathers-and-mothers-child-custody-myths#:~:text=Myth%3A%20Fathers%20Almost%20Never%20Get%20Custody&text=However%2C%20studies%20indicate%20that%20dads,pushed%20aggressively%20to%20win%20it. If the mother wants to fight it, they both have to get a lawyer and both have to pay for a lawyer. Pretty rare that wives are significantly richer than husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:52 AM
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Attraction like you described is hormone fueled infatuation and always fades when the hormones calm down. It's gonna be tough to wanna stay together if you're not friends or comfortable with each other once the honeymoon phase ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:39 PM
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as an answer is already a given. This. A lot of men don't grasp this on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:23 PM
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The older women that don't care (the majority) aren't talking about it at all, thus making it seem like women care way more than they do. Most people feel like when he dates under 20 it's too young, myself included, but when they're early 20s I don't have an issue with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:18 PM
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"An older man dating a younger woman is likely to involve issues with power dynamics?" That's literally the definition of prejudicial. It's also utterly trite and irrelevant. It's factual and relevant to this discussion. Facts not feelings, friend. A hot woman dating a mid guy will have "issues with power dynamics" because the hot woman will have 100x more options and simps competing for her attention at every turn while the guy will be holding on for dear life lest he have to endure another 18 …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:41 PM
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We can do this all day. The bottom line is your statement is prejudicial and judgmental Karenism. Own it. How so? And I think you need to realize differences in power dynamics and something being predatory are not the same thing. That doesn't mean different power dynamics isn't real, or different maturity levels isn't real. These are real issues people in relationships deal with and perhaps you'll understand better when you have more relationship experience yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:07 PM
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Where though? I'm sure you can find crazy people saying anything on the internet, but the majority of women are absolutely not. 21 year olds are more vulnerable, and it's not gendered. If a 35 year old man dates a 21 year old man there's likely gonna be issues with power dynamics and different maturity levels, but normal people aren't calling that being a predator. If a 35 year old man is pursuing high school seniors and college freshmen men....that's predatory because those dudes, like those la…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:31 PM
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If they are, it's a very small minority of women that are wrong. Most women are absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:28 PM
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Well OP is talking about men that are being called predators by women.....so we kinda are. Women aren't calling 45 year old men predators for dating 25 year olds, they're calling 45 year olds predators for dating 18-year-olds, which happens quite a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:20 PM
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Those fathers could get 50/50 is they wanted it. Courts don't deny people 50/50 custody for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:42 PM
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So when the US started bombing and droning Afghanistan/Iraq for ~20 years, should all parents have ceased trying to conceive? Or is that not a high enough chance of dying (note that ~2% of the Iraqi civilian pop died in that war)? If people were living in an area with a high chance of dying they should not have been trying to conceive, no. If they live in a part of the country where they do not have a high chance of dying and there is not significant conflict, then go for it. It's what is in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:46 PM
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Pacino has 5-20 years left to live, but at most 5-ish years of being physically and mentally capable of being a parent. The child will have no father for most/all of it's life. If you're living in a war zone and have a high chance of dying then it is 100% selfish to bring a child into that. The mother and/or father could die. Other family members could die. The child could die. The child might be faced with unimaginable trauma. No, I don't think it's a good idea to choose to have a child in a wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:50 PM
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​ I notice you replaced "older man" with "predatory man." Not all older men are predatory, and many younger men are so I figured it made more sense. How can you tell the difference between an older man who is genuinely interested in a younger woman (and the feeling is mutual) versus a groomer/predator? It's gonna depend on a lot of factors and on each individual case. How much older is he, how did they meet, why does he want to be with her, why does she want to be with him, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:43 PM
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It is neither ok nor not ok for them because they don't exist. You keep talking about nothingness as if it has feelings and it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:39 PM
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Everyone is deserving of protection. There are lots of groups deserving of protection that I don't or can't personally protect, and this is true for everyone. I would 100% advise a young man against dating a gold digger the same way I'd advice a young woman against dating a predatory man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:33 PM
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Should people with disabilities or conditions that shorten their life expectancy be allowed to have kids? How about people engaged in risky jobs where they can die? Should be wrong for soldiers to have kids if they might see active combat and die? Everyone should be allowed to have kids, but that doesn't always make it the right thing to do. Each of these scenarios would need to be judged on an individual basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:32 PM
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It's still an irresponsible and selfish thing to do. Just because it could be worse doesn't make it ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:51 AM
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If he had had another child decades earlier, it would not have been the same person. That's ok!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:47 AM
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Why couldn’t a 42 year old have similar interest as a 25 year old? He could. That's why I said there can be (and there are) genuine age-gap relationships. As a matter of fact I do have a lot in common with 25 year old women, especially those into fitness Thats great! I think at 25 pretty much all people have the experience and wisdom to make informed decisions regarding relationships. But you did list 18 as an age you'd date, which would be a high school senior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:42 AM
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I think anyone would, but that doesn't negate the fact that having a child with 5-10 years of life left is not in the best interest of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:40 AM
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Both can be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:39 AM
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Thats not what having things in common means. It means shared beliefs, opinions, or interests. Being physically into each other isn't "having things in common." That's why people say "he/she is hot, but we have nothing in common" or "the sex is good, but we have nothing in common."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:26 AM
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Some very common needs for women: an emotional connection and having things in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:14 AM
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Right. It would be nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:14 AM
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No, the child is upset their dad died or that they didn't get to have a dad that was there for them growing up cause you know...he's gonna be 90-something when the kid is in middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:13 AM
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And having things in common isn’t important to me. Which is why we caution younger women against dating older men. They want you to meet their own needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:48 AM
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Not being born is worse. No it's not. Not being born is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:47 AM
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And this folks, is why older women try to protect younger women from older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:32 AM
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Finding someone young attractive is totally fine. When people take an issue with age gaps it's usually because there are some older people that pursue younger people not just for looks, but because they are easy to control and manipulate. In reality an 18 year old high school senior has little in common with a 40 year old adult. The adult pursuing a relationship with the teen (especially if they regularly pursue relationships with teens) is not likely to be thinking about what is best for the te…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:30 AM
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I don't think her age is the problem, it's that he's too old to have a child because he will die soon. He's not gonna be there for his child. Losing a parent is one of the most traumatizing things a child can go through. edit: On top of dying not being able to be a parent due to age-related illness.He's gonna be what, 93 when the kid is 10? For a sub that's very against single mothers this is a weird hill for ya'll to die on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:21 AM
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I don't see where OP said they should lower their standards, just that their standards are unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:06 PM
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What if someone is not a good partner? Should they be forced to have partners whom they do not like? Or should they be allowed to be single if the people who match their standards reject them? They are allowed to do whatever they want. And that's how it should be. They're usually not self-aware enough to realize they're bad partners, so they'll either settle one day or be single forever. Or in rare cases work on themselves and become good partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:58 PM
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Is there any objective way to measure the "quality" of a person? I think so! Someone that doesn't do any of the "bad" things (cheat, lie, manipulate, abuse, etc). Someone emotionally mature (has average or above average levels of empathy and self-awareness). A good communicator (calm discussions over yelling and name-calling. Walks away from toxic situations.) Takes care of themselves (mental health and physical health so they can be around for their partner/family physically and emotionally). S…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:09 PM
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The average man has not been rejected all of the time, We're talking cold approaching, so yes he has. That's what your OP is all about. Didn't even need to approach, I was attacked for being known to be into women. So, like I said, you've never been attacked for cold approaching a woman. Because that's not a thing. Save for very rare outliers that most people never experience, women don't attack women for hitting on them. In fact women will be very cruel to men cold approaching and significantly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:49 PM
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Of course it's true. The vast majority of women aren't into women full stop never mind being their type. Your average man will often face rejection rates of 100%, and women are more mean when rejecting men than women. Homophobic attacks are still a worry, you're talking to someone who has, like most, been a victim. A woman you randomly approached attacked you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:03 PM
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They're less likely to be rejected Not true. and don't have to worry about homophobic attacks Not a real worry for western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:56 PM
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A woman approaching women is not the same as a man approaching women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:40 AM
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You must be British
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:28 AM
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He's french. That adds 10 points to looks and wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:28 AM
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Look, I don't know a single woman out of college engaging in regular casual sex. I'm sure it happens plenty, but it's really not that common. Casual sex dwindles off once people are past 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:58 PM
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most No they aren't. Over 50% of women aged 18-80 are not regularly engaging in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:07 PM
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If people laid an unwanted egg....would they just omelette it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:05 PM
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Apparently I'm meant to approach, but act super tactful in the following conversation, but then when we get to sex I'm meant to rip her clothes off and pound her into eternity whilst mimicking the kind of violent pornified sex that would make a James Deen blush. You know, this is 100% accurate to what we want as women and happens to describe 99% of male love interests in romance novels. That being said, I don't think wanting this is traditionalist, but expecting it is. Breaking from traditionali…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:14 PM
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Also if you are small just grow up I've been waiting for that second growth spurt since 7th grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:13 PM
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I'm not sure there are many men that are my size. Certainly not many on any dating app. That being said, a man my height will easily overpower me. I'm not sure there are many men my height and weight....apart from children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:43 PM
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If I can't beat you at arm wrestling we can't date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:36 PM
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I wish I only knew one woman who had been a victim of male violence. Oh I know many more than one. This was just the incident that put me off hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:35 PM
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Anecdotal, but I had a friend in college hook up with a random guy from tinder. He ended up choking her against her wishes and didn't stop for a while after she said no. She cried the next day and never had a one night stand again. That was enough to put me off as well. I know this is a minority of men...but putting yourself in a vulnerable situation with someone/a stranger a million times stronger than you is scary. Even if you've been on a date. All it takes is one bad experience, or sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:07 PM
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Body positivity was never about promoting acceptance of "all" bodies. They don't care about burn victim's bodies. They don't care about short bodies. They don't care about male bodies. They don't care about bodies with small penises despite the constant ridicule they have in society with common verbiage describing them in a derogatory manner. Actually, this is exactly what the movement was about at the start. Over time it's become about weight, but it used to be about size, disability, race, men…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:09 AM
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Women being famous doesn't mean they're well-adjusted or mentally healthy. Plenty of male and female celebrities that have issues that pair off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 05:52 PM
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Anyone can leave a friendship for any reason. Anyone can do anything they want, including be a horrible person and treat your "friends" like shit. But people that act shitty are gonna get judged. That's called consequences of your shitty actions. If you make freinds with someone and try and put the moves on them get rejected then ghost them....well you're free to do that and you deserve to be judged for it...regardless if you're a man or a woman. Regardless if you're a man doing it to a woman or…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:39 PM
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Niceness is unattractive and seen as weak No it's not. Nice does not equal pushover. Nice does not equal clingy. Nice does not equal desperate or doormat. You can be both nice and strong/confident. Being nice isn't unattractive. It's not sexy either. It's a nice quality to have tho. Confidence is attractive. Being nice and confident won't make someone less attractive. Being nice and a desperate pushover will absolutely make someone less attractive. Except its not the niceness that's the problem.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:03 AM
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> An avg looking asshole will beat a good looking nice guy everytime No he won't. An attractive man will always "win." A "nice guy" means a guy that pretends to be nice but isn't. It doesn't literally mean a nice person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:59 AM
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Men do not generally shame women for entering fields that are typically dominated by men, such as stem, sports, combat, gaming, etc. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:12 AM
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Is it weird to say I don't care that much about cheating? Humans aren't meant to be monogamous for life. If they fell in love with someone else then I'd leave, but otherwise....depends on the circumstances. A random one night stand....idk if I'd care at all. I'd just hope I don't find out at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:10 AM
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Is it good to accept that male humans are biologically inclined to not be monogamous for life? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:34 PM
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that humans are socially very distinct by nature due to sex even though it isn't scientifically proven and most of the hypotheses are already proven to be false Let's see some of this proof
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:32 PM
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Not if you pee beforehand (seriously).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:25 PM
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People can and do consent to being exploited every day. Doesn't make it anything other than exploitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:56 PM
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Now I'm imagining you trying to put your books and wallet into a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:12 PM
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The world has too few people. You're kidding, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:07 PM
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The act of degrading someone to an object. It is to dehumanize another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:39 PM
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That's simply not objectification. Anyone saying that is just wrong. You can put all the emphasis you want on looks and not objectify someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:17 PM
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but all men are treated like potential predators Well, this is wrong and shouldn't happen, right? Or are you justifying this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:13 AM
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but it also feels good to treat others how they treated you Totally different and unrelated women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:56 AM
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Good people treat everyone with basic respect and decency. Regardless of what anyone looks like. Good, emotionally mature people realize that a woman or man treating them badly doesn't mean other men and women don't deserve basic respect. They treat people well because it makes them feel good to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:07 AM
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What exactly did you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:37 AM
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You could with the right person, especially if you made it funny, or you could share the same preferences tactfully (interest in anime or whatever waifu is).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:16 AM
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So you agree it has nothing to do with shaming men. Men just don't want it. Great!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:02 PM
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No you wouldn't. Give me an example of how you'd answer that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:58 PM
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"I want a big titty waifu" is going to be perceived as an incredibly awkward thing to say on a date by 99% of the human population.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:44 PM
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You have to take into account that most normal people aren't spending time arguing about gender issues online.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:36 PM
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This is true for short-term hormone fueled relationships. Long term, once the honeymoon phase fades, it will be an issue no matter how hot he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:47 PM
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Hiding your nature is not the same thing as writing an awkward bio that makes it clear that you have the social skills of a carrot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:44 PM
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If it doesn't its cause men don't want it. Why aren't men starting a body positivity movement for themselves if they want it so bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 08:43 PM
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since when should the happiness of women matter more than the happiness of men? It doesn't. women are not inherently more important and valuable than men Of course not. Not sure how this is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:18 AM
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Can you answer my question? You, a man, are sad, but there are men that are happy. Is that also unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:17 AM
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Do you feel that it's unfair that there are men that are happy? Or do you just feel it is unfair when women are happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:00 AM
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that feels really unfair Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:02 AM
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The point is the average looking women with a phd thinks she's more attractive because of that phd No she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:37 PM
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Anyone can leave anyone for any reason. I've said that from the start. My argument is that OPs evidence/argument is bad since the reason behind why someone is sick or jobless is not considered, so all joblessness and all illness related breakups shouldn't just be lumped together and compared.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:28 AM
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I don't see how this goes against anything I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:12 AM
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And some people would stay. It depends on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:24 AM
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Anyone can leave for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:23 AM
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With that logic the same could be said with illnesses simply look up STI’s. Correct. Which is why it's important not to lump everything together. Leaving your partner b/c they got an STI vs cancer are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:51 AM
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It doesn't specify because the good faith interpretation is that we're comparing like to like. If it's not clearly stated everyone is going to make different interpretations. That's why it's important to state these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:48 AM
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It's not derailing at all when you look at the op. None of the data or OPs arguments specify how many of these men lost their job due to bad luck and how many chose not to pursue full time work. Same with being sick. If someone treats their body horribly and gets sick as a result that's very different than getting sick due to bad luck. But OP has lumped everything together. The misbalanced data could be explained by looking at the influence of choice. Maybe choice doesn't play a big factor. Eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:05 AM
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There are two issues with this. One is lots of men would treat a woman well. The second issue is people's actions don't always match their words, and people know this. That being said, dating is superficial, and that's ok. You're not hoping to date women hobgoblin women for a reason. I'm sure you'd like to date a nice, pretty young lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:33 AM
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that being jobless isn’t a choice It can be. Some people choose to not work. I'm sure you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:25 AM
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Standards are standards regardless of if it's a choice or not. A lot of people's standards have to do with the choices their partner makes. A lot of people would stay with someone that's jobless/sick by no fault of their own over someone that's jobless/sick due to their own choices. If there's one thing women have made abundantly clear it's that they have standards for a height preference. Unfortunately, most people don't choose to be short. This is just off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:19 AM
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You can't have a good faith conversation about this if we don't talk about the reasons for why someone is sick/unemployed. The reasons are a huge factor in why people leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:17 AM
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Because judging people for the choices they make is different from judging people for things they have no control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:59 PM
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There's a reason I wrote "if"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:48 PM
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If being jobless is a choice these aren't equivalents. Being sick isn't a choice. That being said, don't stay in a relationship you don't wanna be in. If you truly love someone, you'll be there for when they're sick and/or lose their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:31 PM
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And eventually it would get figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:33 PM
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The push is to have these folks who refuse to do anything difficult run everything and have all the high prestige jobs... doesn't that seem stupid? Women do lots of difficult work. Just because you don't appreciate nurses, teachers, social workers, childcare, nonprofits....etc., doesn't mean the rest of us are that ignorant. At the end of the day everyone is welcome to choose whatever work they want to do. Doing hard physical labor does not make someone qualified to have a "prestigious job" or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:14 PM
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They have to feel superior somehow....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:51 PM
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Guys, come on. You're being idiots. If, in a magical scenario, men disappeared women would do those jobs. Can we end it here? Just because a group of people chooses not to do something cause it sucks doesn't mean they wouldn't do it out of necessity. How many of ya'll are farmers? How many of ya'll can even keep a houseplant alive? How many of you men have ever grown or invented or built anything? Ohh....you'd do it if you had to? No way. Come on. Edit: To address all the arguments in the commen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:53 PM
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But you're wrong. Girl Michael (Michaela) isn't any guy's preference. Average looking, average build, average personality, bit boring, bit mentally ill. What man dreams of average Michaela? The Michaels of the world dream of Sarah, the sparkly, pretty girl that fits conventional beauty standards. Michaela isn't any man's preference, the same way that Michael is no woman's preference. The reason Michaela is getting dates is because women are more picky and therefore, sadly, Sarah will never go ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:09 AM
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So if these women all wanted to date the same type of guy, a guy like Michael they would be more unique? But because they don't want to date Michael they are less unique?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:10 AM
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Mary Anderson invented the windshield wiper. She patented it in 1903.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:55 AM
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These men are so unique they'd all date the same kind of woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:53 AM
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Michael doesn't consider himself a geek and thinks he's unique, as shown by his choice to wear chinos over cargo shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:05 AM
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The TRUTH is that they are not anywhere as individualistic as the average man is. -Written by Michael right after he played video games and before he watched anime. Michael has short brown hair and is wearing a t-shirt and jeans and deleted tinder after only matching with bots. He's slightly depressed and his dad never asked him how he's doing are really meant it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:43 PM
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I'm not interested at all in bringing down women not like I could if I even cared to. Then why present facts in a way that brings down women? Your comment was supporting the commenter that claimed that men built society...as if women didn't. I'm just frustrated when people don't see an obvious truth. Yes Women invent things too nothing about that contradicts what I'm saying. It's not an obvious truth. It's presenting facts in a way that is biased and attempts to make an entire gender seem like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:08 PM
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Right, but a women's attractiveness is determined based on the attractiveness of other women not other men (mostly). If a woman is average putting her in a room of male models won't make her below average. Putting her in a room of female supermodels would instantly make her attractiveness shoot to the bottom. It is strange, if I think about it, that humans seem to be very gendered when it comes to determining attractiveness. I wonder what the biology behind that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:28 AM
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If you instantaneously drop from a 7 to a 5, you're going to have a completely different social experience than what you were used to Only if no one else dropped. If everyone dropped 2 points you're having the same experience you've always had. The actual big change that would come from makeup disappearing is women would lose "prettiness mobility," or it would be harder to change your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:55 AM
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Disregard facts like this is what makes people so blind to the metaphysics and ontology of male and female Women were not allowed the same education as men for most of history, which is relevant and rarely mentioned in these discussions. I've noticed that the manosphere uses "men invented everything" as a talking point to bring down women. One can just as easily say rich people invented most things (access to education), europeans and asians invented most things (access to education/information)…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:31 AM
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If it disappeared for all women, people would get used to it and we'd be back to where we are now. Pretty privilege will apply to people that are prettier than average, same as it does now. Average would decrease, but it would still apply just the same way. A big part of how we determine "pretty" is how a person looks compared to those around them. That's why people say things like "'she's a midwest 7 but an LA 4" TLDR: beauty is more relative than objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:20 AM
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Average women aren't on Tinder.... Yes they are. The rest is up to you ;) This isn't personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:29 PM
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Tinder is quite literally real life. It is a tool for getting dates. The average woman can use this tool to set up 10 dates while a man can not. An average woman can also go to a bar and get a handful of dates and numbers while the average man will be lucky to get a couple, if any at all. Apps and OLD has made dating for women easier than men. Saying it's not real life is silly. Of course it's real life. OLD/Apps are a huge and very real part of dating and a huuuuge reason for why getting dates …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 07:46 PM
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How on Earth can it be easier for women to get dates than men? Have you ever tried getting dates on tinder as an average man then as an average woman? An average woman could get 10 dates lined up for next week. An average man could not, no matter how low his standards are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:42 PM
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Nails, hair, skincare, make up - you think any of this is cheap? It is cheap. If it's not cheap for you...that's a result of your own choices. No one cares if your nails are done and polish costs a few bucks a bottle. There's tons of cheap makeup that's perfectly fine. Same with skincare. Hair can be done at home. There is no reason for women to expect men to pay for dates in a world where everyone works. The only scenario this makes sense is for people seeking trad relationships....which is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:45 AM
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They work the same way as men. Women, like men, want to be with a person they are physically attracted to and whose personality they enjoy. Like men, women like their partner to be attractive. Like men, women are all different when it comes to what personality traits they are drawn to. Most people (men/women) like good social skills and self-confidence. While men on average like feminine women, women on average like masculine men. There are always going to be men and women that are exceptions to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:45 PM
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Are you saying men drop out of society when women outcompete them, but not other men? Because men have been competing for jobs since the beginning of time. Now that women are competing this is bad? Either I'm misunderstanding you or this is some really toxic sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:21 PM
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I went to a majority women college. The competition for "chads" was fierce. They 100% were not interested in anyone that wasn't at least a 7. Guys on here totally underestimate how picky "chads" are even for one night stands. I think the guys on here have a skewed woman of what an average young woman is, and call 7's/8's "average," average women below average, and the rest are just kinda invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:41 PM
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